Dynasty Warriors 3 Complete Edition Remastered announcedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPBxiZlyk0o [Embed]>Origins reveal trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU48saHVmh4 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Origins gameplay featureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Origins - Launch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MEAKfgMyc [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Abyss - Launch Trailerhttps://youtu.be/jn238X1UXoU?si=Yzz2RFhh_fDPOR2B [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Pirate Warriors 4 - Character Pass 3 Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmuIMbnHYo4 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kGASsFqQI [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqcRecommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNSPS2 game mods: https://pastebin.com/J96YhRu8>New to the Musou-verse?The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - A series of video games set in China during the fall of the Han Empire.YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTriviahttps://www.youtube.com/@Klogaloushttps://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaminghttps://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollectionhttps://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/
shit
it's finally time
Man, I'm trying to get all the achievements in Dynasty Warriors 8XL on Steam. Holy shit these are tedious. Still having fun though
>>541760204See this>Dynasty Warriors 3 Remastered: Complete Editon - Reveal Trailer | State of Playhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1eVAPeHYaA >Origins gameplay featureshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9DxhZj4Ej8>Origins - Launch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MEAKfgMyc >Abyss - Launch Trailerhttps://youtu.be/jn238X1UXoU?si=Yzz2RFhh_fDPOR2B>Pirate Warriors 4 - Next Generation Trailerhttps://youtu.be/GMKNpEASitY?si=yujKnMt-MVyja2mL >Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment – Nintendo Direct 9.12.2025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuSV9Sy28MwNEWS> DW3R>Dynasty Warriors 3 Remastered: Complete Editon March 19, 2026> Dynasty Warriors origin coming out on switch 2 and DLC January 22, 2026Pastebin for newcomers: https://pastebin.com/Gq3pxGqcRecommended Reading: https://pastebin.com/15wPQWNSPS2 game mods: https://pastebin.com/J96YhRu8>New to the Musou-verse?The musou genre is expansive so this is a quick terms rundown, but see the newcomer pastebin for more information.>Dynasty Warriors - the original, mainline series based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel>XL / Xtreme Legends - essentially expansions for DW games>Empires - a light strategy DW spin-off, you conquer & manage territory instead of following a story>Samurai Warriors - DW, but based on Japan's history>Warriors Orochi - Crossover between DW & SW>Romance of the Three Kingdoms - an epic novel, telling a romanticized version of historical events>There's multiple other IP spin-offs with Musou gameplay, including One Piece and Zelda.YouTube channels covering the 3 kingdoms real history and the Dynasty Warriors / Musou games.https://www.youtube.com/@SeriousTriviahttps://www.youtube.com/@Klogaloushttps://www.youtube.com/@TheNightowlGaminghttps://www.youtube.com/@KoeiKollectionhttps://www.youtube.com/@ChrisGildart/https://www.youtube.com/@LightyTheNube/>FRIENDS:https://boards.4channel.org/vg/catalog#s=dqg%2F
When did the Sima Clan become more powerful than the Cao Dynasty?
>>541760204Such an odd design, yet I don't hate it. Her voice could make or break it, though.
>>541797901 What is this image from?
>>541784254your old outdated shit version removes the rotk references and mentions. its no longer being used since it lacks rotk listed. the new version has the rotk mentioned and will continue to do so. not sure why you keep trying to autistically force the outdated no longer used version and refuse to use the one mentioning rotk. get with the program and stop trying tyo autism force the outdated no longer used version since we're using the new versionjust have to remove all that embed crap and it'll be fine. but this no rotk version was tossed and replaced with a new updated version.
>>541821567I don't know what you mean by rotk. Maybe mine can use some added but mine has the most up-to-date Legend of Zelda upcoming Mutual game trailer that shows the actual now known release date. Not to mention you didn't edit out the multiple use of the word [Embed] Three times where I ended mine to not include it and I really don't understand what's with the foul language considering I did update this and was asking people to help me update it more but you blanketly saying that it's outdated and replaced because two people did Rotk At the Dynasty Warriors 3 being redone was announced.
>>541823123wow run on sentence. yeah that embed wasnt supposed to be there and im annoyed it somehow got copied in. oops on my end. and rotk you know the whole romance of the 3 kingdoms? you know the series that lead to the musou games?? how in the hell are you in a koei musou thread and have never heard of rotk aka romance of the 3 kingdoms. I cuss because you edited out the rotk stuff and its part of the thread now. and usually when that happens in a thread its some resident retard going full autism over the changes to the thread and trying to force it back with autism. and it looked like thats what you were doing when you edited out the rotk for no reason after its been in the thread title a few threads now. it was updated to add rotk so no idea where you're getting this im updating things talk since its updated. just needs embed removed.so going forward rotk aka romance of the 3 kingdoms the whole series of time the musou games are from will be in the thread OP. though good lord that embed error needs a cleaning. also good job on the trailer as I was looking for it earlier so not knocking you had posted that.
>>541824178I'm not sure how to emotionally feel about your response but whatever I guess.
https://www.siliconera.com/dynasty-warriors-tgs-2025-stream-reveals-more-series-details/
i almost made a thread while it was gone but i thought i'd screw up the opbeen playing dw 2 gundam on ps2 emulation, bu't i'm at the tail end of that and what i care to complete. i wish this had an empires game.so in its place i started dw5xl and got my butt whooped in my first attempt at destiny mode. i forgot how unforgiving the first stage is when you have zero levels/upgrades
>>541808608Hyrule Warriors: Age of ImprisonmentIt's a Zelda Musou spin-off (the third to be exact).
Dammit Wang Lang, I was literally outside of your gate coming to back you up.
>>541853580I should play empires 5
>>541861042nevermind, got lost in a game of romance of the 3 kingdoms 13 for a bit. time to play empires.
Where to find the 2010 three kingdoms show nowadays?
Gotta admit, looking at it I think DW7 really hit when it found a short hair style for Xiahou Dun that worked.
NOT YET
>>541888752NOT YET what?
https://www.gematsu.com/2025/10/romance-of-the-three-kingdoms-8-remake-with-power-up-kit-announced-for-ps5-ps4-switch-and-pc
Huh... I had no clue there was ship combat in rotk3.
>>541915553aww shit level 56. I haven't even played as him yet past a bit in free mode. Yuan Shu is level 38?Wang Yun or whatever his name is that is in yin in the very last scenario is level 100 and I can't remember who's next. Someone around level 75.
>>541895395Do we get these in English now? I remember the PS2 PUKs all stayed in Japan.
>>54193218713, 14 both had english PUK. So did the last NA.Remains to be seen I suppose with it being a remake and koei loves making random decisions like this so who knows
>>541907586Who?
>>541950054no idea... diao chan?
>>541950054>>541962615Zhenji got the nurse outfit dlc
>>541967964I think I saw it in either dw7 or dw8. thinking dw7:de
>>541932187>>541935716Already confirmed for WW releasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-cpTgY8WCg
>>541967964Zhenji got the Snickers dlc
hmmm
>5 Empires silently re-adds bodyguards as opposed to just one dude/dudette following youBased as fuck>but doesn't let you customize anything about them, they are always default major and privatesMega gay Wish there was a code for that
Also something that would be extremely cool to mod into the PS2 games would be a camera hack that allows you to watch another unit while your player character is far away, and force it to render what's going on off-range where the fights supposedly happen based on morale level.
>>541983041Looks promising but ultimately irrelevant if they cant sort the attack/defend ai balance
>>541999134
>>541984154She should eat Snickers dlc until she has a nice royal figure.
>>542001716More fan sexy fan art.
I'll let you go for now, don't think you've won!
>>542016024>when you raid the enemy supply depot
I'm going to watch this video and to make it more love in here how has Dynasty Warriors treated the trailer accusation against Wei Yan with him being playable since DW3 ( I started with dw9 and the Game Boy Advance game yet don't think I knew I was playing ancient China real life stuff) and how do we feel about Wei Yan? Chinese History | Wei Yan: The Traitor Who Wasn’t?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlLt8-f48wQ
>>542055452I never looked into the whole traitor thing and it seems like a dream he rebeled against shu after lui bei passed. and its never covered in the games past 1 stage in dw4 I think it was touching on it. so to me it never happened and its just some meme joke thats gone on for 20 years even if its in the books. seriously koei cover things and cover them properly
>>542055452I think the English dubs trying so hard to over compensate for his stilted caveman talk by giving him a Dr Claw voice is kind of funny. Besides that, breakdance musou is fun.
>>542061194>>542061194Did you watch the video? By what I heard he didn't actually without but after the death of Zhuge Liang His fan club who Wei Yan was not a member of and did not want to end what was a successful campaign and Zhuge Liang Last we're in testimony could be interpret what to do about Wei Yan I think he dead I think Zhuge Liang last will actually amounted to let him do his thing but his fan club of subordinates basically read he's dangerous don't let him live.Wei Yan basically tried to race home to the capital after it became clear that Zhuge Liang fan club wanted to kill him they accused of a treason and Ma Daie actually ended up killing him.
>>542066598no I dont have time at the moment to watch the video and was going to later tonight. no biggy I just never see it properly covered in games and online so I just dont know much about it. appreciate you filling me in on some of the details though. seems there was quite a bit of asshole going on back in the day with people
>>542061194>past 1 stage in dw4 I think it was touching on itI think it's the one time in old school DW where Sima Yi outright outwits Zhuge Liang too.
>>542070774Come to think of it, isn't DW4 the game that made Wei Yan's officer defeat quote "Enemy, dead!". Always stuck out to me because that's the game where everyone retreats for another day.
I haven't used Wei Yan in years so I took him out to a stage quick in dw3xl. man I must be rusty with him as I was not using him and his moveset very well. Im going to finish up zhu rong's musou to unlock the amazoness bodyguards and than i'll put a bit of grind into wei yan and try to get a feel for his unorthadox style of fighting.
I am reading the Romance of the Three Kingdoms for the first time in a LOONG time and I forgot just how dirty they did my boy Xu Chu in Dynasty Warriors. I want the smart ass, annoying, taunting jerk from the book who just makes fun of Dian Wei.
>>542076616We could be Kessen about it if you want
>>542039868fair game!
>>542088743Shame about the voice.
>>542089330ha, I know. I defeated an officer and its all manly officer generic. fun fighting with and I enjoy the moveset. peasant is fun also.
>>542055452>>542066598>>542068842Wei Yan might not count as a traitor to Han but his behavior was unjustifiable and his execution was 100% deserved.
>still doing DW8 story modes in a relatively chronological order>Just finished Sun Ce's Magic Sorcerer Adventure>next stage on the timeline for Wu is the Battle of Chi BiGoddamn. I forgot Wu really doesn't do anything until then, while Cao Cao still hasn't even had Fan Castle yet.
>>542076616Where can you read it?
>>542101702idk
Recently came back to the PS2 games only to do a Chaos run and a DW3 Hard run. Guess which one was harder.
>>542113596oh dw3 easily. games kicking my shit in all over the place on hard as I built up in dw3xl and that gives me advantages. I just got done playing dw5xl and beat another chaos stage fairly easily. you can tell the difference when you play both games and see how things are between them. (dw4 even has things to note between all 3 and add in the xl and it gets even easier for 4 and 5).
>>542118290>Guan Yu, canonically: "I got hit by a poisoned arrow and lived!">Guan Yu, DW3: living pincushion man who crumples at the mention of an arrow
>>542118290It was actually DW5 Chaos, specifically the last stage tho.The DW3 Hard run wasn't that bad because first of all you don't need very high stats, and if you are getting trashed you can hope for a full recover item, while DW5 Chaos specifically removes that.Although 5's Xiaoqiao has an extremely broken jump charge so any stage that doesn't force you to go fast like Chibi is a joke
>>542098772Origins is a friendly reminder that the Sun family is playing the local suppression of minor warlords and tribes and Whack-a-Liu Biao until it's time to Three Kingdoms.
On a little sidenoteHoly shit 68combo on one dude. Gotta love XQ and her dumbass moveset, between C1, C5, the musou and an ice orb you do so many hits. Can probably go for 100+ on stage 1 Lu Bu.
>>542129456Samurai bros... We are irrelevant...
Beating early game Lu Bu in older games should give a huge morale raise. Why did they never do that
Just wanna say that Origins is fucking amazing. Love it
>>542101702I bought the 4 volume boxset on Amazon.
>>542118290DW3 Very Hard swings like crazy depending on the stage. Hulao Gate is like a walk in the park compared to something like Yiling or even YTR
>>542142515Amazon?
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Kong Ming
>Sima Yi: Grrr! Where did that fool Zhuge Liang hide his supplies for his troops?!>the unassuming wooden ox:
>>542182223Wooden ox weren't for hiding supplies, they were for efficient bulk transportation across rugged terrain.
FUCK IT'S OVER
>>542118526>Get huge stat boost for his 4th weapon>Arrow damage scales with player's stat>None of his stat boost is arrow defense
>>541760204>East Asian Genocide GeneralWHAT?
>>542211018The enemy officer has fallen to my blade!
>>542233696What?
>>542244624I once did the same thing in Hyrule Warriors, sorta.
>>542094220>Wei Yan might not count as a traitor to Han but his behavior was unjustifiable and his execution was 100% deserved.Why was Wei Yan execution 100% deserved?
I am going to get the new Zelda warriors game but probably get it at Christmas.
I like her face. I think her new costume is too overdesigned though, like with all the other character costumes in NG4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdN8tjmI6Rs
I've been playing Vermintide 2 recently, and the sheer amount of enemies it can throw at you makes it feel like a musou game at times. For those of you who don't know about the game, it's basically Left 4 Dead but set in the Warhammer Fantasy universe. Good game, if kind of buggy and can be super bullshit and cheap with its difficulty at times.
>>542268671I don't know how I'll feel playing a new musou game that goes back to braindead enemies again after Origins
I cannot for the life of me get the vertical line fix to work for emulated SW2 XL. It works fine for WO2.
WO2 Hard is kinda batshit if you don't power up characters first.Or at least it would be if you couldn't make unlimited saves or spend all your additional points on your best character
>>541760204When did the Sima Clan become more powerful than the Cao Dynasty?
>>542303168around 223 is when it starts to gather in power and placement of people in positions so by 234 I think it was they had taken over. im fairly sure im getting my years wrong though.>>542286848I am having the same issue as you. I got it working just fine in dw3xl and 4 and 5 but sw2xl gives me issues with a few mods. like damn even ol dw2 handles mods like a pro but sw2xl is being...difficult with a few.
>>542303168249, when Sima Yi launched a coup and exterminated the Cao clan.>>542308590Your years are so wrong that I'm going to have to ask you to never speak on this subject again.
whoa man didnt know there's a thread, must admit i haven't touched any warriors games (i already uninstalled Origins because I almost finished everything and maybe will re-install it when the DLC comes, got tired with SW4's chronicle mode and SW5 haven't been impressing me), so I spent the last few weeks playing Persona and Ryza
>>542316241yeah there's a thread more or less. it has it's up and down times and sometimes it dies but someone comes along and makes another thread and as you can see we have a group of characters who play some of the other games including the rotk. welcome and have fun.
there I have purposely killed cao cao in rotk2 scenario 4 and replaced him with han hao charm 15. mauhahahahah the fun begins
>>542311661He killed thousands...
Something tells me they didn't test Zuo Ci C3 damage in WO2. And I'm underlevelled.
>random DW vid on YT about the older games battle simulation>theres a random factor to enemy officers starting morale>officers (but not lieutenant officers) have a couple groups of troops that follow them around the stage as well as their bodyguards, and they even follow the player if you play as an officer native to that stage20+ years of playing DW and I didn't notice these things, booted up DW3 just to check and well I'll be, both actually happen
>>542370575Link the video. Always been curious about off range battles especially in Empires games. For normal DW it's easy enough to figure out higher morale = that unit is the only one doing damage, but seems to work differently in some titles.
Chinese History | Xun Yu: Cao Cao’s Secret Mastermind?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CXkG2-z4q4&t=51s
>>542380431>SecretRetarded clickbait. Literally everyone knew Xun Yu was Cao Cao's chief of staff. This wasn't a Chen Qun situation where his written correspondence with Cao Rui was kept so confidential that people thought he wasn't doing shit and wondering what Cao Rui was keeping him around for until after it was all published posthumously.
page 10?
>>542370823can't find it now, I never seen the title since it just auto-loaded after watching a DW video by someone else. I remember it being just over 20 mins though.It didn't cover Empires, just the mainline titles. It was mostly stuff anons here would know, but there was a couple smaller things like the two I mentioned. One other thing I didn't know was that in DW5, the bases in some stages are random so there could be a defense base in one round, then if you restart the stage that same base might be an offensive base this time etc. Very minor, but still neat.
>Page 10 again
What are we expecting from the upcoming dlc?
ENEMY OFFICER DEFEATED
>>542417374At least Zhang Jiao and Lu Bu hypothetical routes, maybe more. They said it'd be almost entirely hypothetical stories. I'm hoping for new weapons and some way to play the other officers all the time
Just need to finish his health and I consider him done. I want his musou short and quick to happen. off to pick out someone else to max atk./def.
>>542441189How many have you maxed out so far
>>542450980The only other person is Guan Yu who I finished the health just a moment ago. Now I am going to pick someone from Wei to max. This lets me cover the 3 kingdoms. After that I think i'll work on Yuan Shao as I haven't played his musou in a long ass time and barely remember it. However I saw some screenshots of some of his musou someone was showing and decided I wanted to enjoy his story. also want to beat zhu rong and meng huo's musou to unlock those bodyguards. And there's a few costume colors I want to unlock also. I also plan on powering through the musou of the shu ,wei ,wu stories so I have the alternate colors. Than at some point I have to get 4th and 5th and than deal with lu bu and his 3rd outfit.
>>542454368This would have helped.
grinding out bodyguard points. woo
Don't know if this is the right place to ask, but since everyone here is a Three Kingdoms enthusiast, and since the thread needs a good bump anyway, I want to ask: Is this worth a read?
>>542434268We must fight well
>>542441189>>542454590I understand why longer musou bar = better musou bar in their logic but I think even they were aware everyone just preferred to do Musou more often with how they tweaked the attacks in later games.
Anybody here play Total War Three Kingdoms and have people from that they want to see in Dynasty Warriors I want to see this guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBNVv9nWhWg
all my DW3 demo homies want Wang Ping to get the main roster treatment
The more I play these games, the more I think the RPG levelling system was a mistake. I can take the weapon progression and special items like the elemental orbs, but all the stats add to the game is making you awkwardly switch between difficulties depending on how strong your character currently is/how good your stat items are and that's especially highlighted as you try to clear different scenarios/musou mode with all the playables.To add insult to the injury, Xtreme Legends and Orochi games have separate stages with completely different difficulty ratings and a preset character roster, so at times it will be more fitting to play them in-between the main stages, sometimes before, sometimes afterwards etc.They would be vastly improved if you just axed that aspect altogether.
>>542286848Play the PS3 version and pretend you know Japanese
I hope the Origins DLC adds a way to start a fresh Ziluan while keeping all the gear/skills/bodyguard unlocks. Basically start with fresh stats while keeping everything else.
I just did the fight where you killed Lu Buin Origins and why did he want to kill Liu Bei as his last action instead of Cao Cao?
I choose to believe DW is historically accurate about the Qiaos, but China didn't want you to know thousands of their troops got defeated by a loli swinging huge fans and that she had a magical girl sister.
>>542519158I bet it's true. history was rewrote to spare egos
>>542517036He views Liu Bei as having betrayed him against Cao Cao, even if obviously Lu Bu betrayed him first. Their alliance started as one against Cao Cao, and Lu Bu's end came when Liu Bei joined with him.
>>542517036He didn't have a chance at Cao Cao but saw one at Liu Bei, and at this point in time Liu Bei was a closely trusted subordinate of Cao Cao so it looked like the logical next best option. If you can't take out the #1 settle for taking out the #2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tf4MvL3_fw>when the Wu morale is 8 stars
>>542543220>Yi Ling as ShuWhat the fuck were they thinking.
>>542543220this and he fei castle are the hardest stages in 3 no contest, wu zhang ain't shit compared to them
>>542544124>"Shu fucking deserved it" - John Omega Force
>>542531493Plus Liu Bei was effectively subordinate to Lu Bu just before Liu Bei went to Cao Cao, so Lu Bu may have felt upstaged as well; again, ignoring that Liu Bei saved and took in Lu Bu to begin with before Lu Bu backstabbed him. Lu Bu probably felt he could've avoided the whole mess he was in if he just killed the Oath Bros after betraying them.
>>542569509Liu Bei went over to Cao Cao because Lü Bu attacked and defeated Liu Bei, though to be fair to Lü Bu, he was only pre-emptively attacking Liu Bei for blatantly plotting against him by raising troops.
god dammit dw4 duels are acting up and say I denied when I hit x to accept. god damn stop borking im ttrying to kick lu bu's ass huo lao
>>542467226I read about 415 chapters and yeah I would recommend it. Heads up though, the only translation available after a couple chapters uses the Japanese names instead of the Chinese. I've seen others say the same in other threads but it really would be perfect musou material.
>>542585331Thank you. Out of curiosity, just how far along is the manga? Is it anywhere close to completion?You said you read 415 chapters. How many chapters in total are there? And how many chapters do you think remain after the latest published chapter? I'm asking this because I've been burned by so many manga in the past 4-5 years that completely stumbled at the finish line and had terrible endings. If the manga is about to finish, then I'm willing to wait a year or maybe even two to finally read it so that I can at least know if public sentiment is of the consensus that it has a satisfactory ending or not.
>>542588547Seems it's at 850 now, I'm pretty far behind so I can't exactly say how close it is to the end. But given that it follows the Warring States, it will probably end at unification, and apparently the start of that push is beginning. I doubt it will end in a year though, it will probably still take some time to get there
>>542585331I wish the anime were better
>>542591706There's the 2010 live show instead. You can find it on nyaa
Hyrule Warriors looking kind of different than I remember it.
>>542544124Even Sho mentioned the gate captain who's absurdly strong for no reasonhttps://twitter.com/koeilau/status/1804769825690178007
>>542597084I wish this map of China was more grey
>>542614276Going back to DW8 after all these years the big thing I got hit with was how DARK it is. I really did get spoiled by the higher contrast world of Hyrule Warriors.
Rumor has it you can unlock Page 10 in DW3 by beating every character's musou mode on Very Hard then getting a 2000 point combo in Challenge Mode
>>542616130The whole game was very gloomy
Possible new playable females for Wei in Dynasty Warriors future?
Watching random tubers play origins and the common theme is they all get frustrated at the babysitting. Koei clearly want to grow the DW playerbase, yet they keep designing the gameplay around an aspect that just annoys people. I don't know why they don't just drop the the allies-sucking-on-purpose design and make the game more challenging in other ways, i.e make the combat harder.
Just because we're a bump post doesn't mean we can't fight!
>>542642706As in, staying with a target to protect them? That's actually the worse way to fight, it's better to move far away, wait for them to struggle, ride over to them to heal them, then go back to what you were doing. But if you stay close to them, they won't ask for help and get healed. Allies also won't struggle as much if you're defeating enemies quickly.
>aw shit we need to throw in one more objective to Lu Bu's story mode>um what sort of hypothetical situation can we make>...>shit I dunno let's just go with the first idea in our head and then clock out and hit the bar
>>542604227So anyways, why was that gate captain much stronger than the others anyways?
>>542665857His health value is accidentally swapped with Sun Shangxiang's right next to him, which is why she goes down so fast compared to every other Wu officer on the stage. If anything the mistake makes it easier
>>542667790I was wondering why she's the easiest to defeat actually. Granted, Lu Meng and Lu Xun are more important in terms of what's their role on the map, while Gan Ning tends to always spawn buffed as enemy, but still.
>>542668190That Zhu Ran starts like five feet from the destination for the fire attack is really the big problem.
>>542668864Only gets you once, second time around you just camp his spawn.The real bullshit is the fact that even if you do stop the fire attack,if you didn't kill any of the other officers yet they will still ass rape Shu's entire army.
I have a passion for RotTK XI and specifically player vs player or multiplayer campaigns. They are difficult to keep going/organize. The games hay day was during a time before Youtube. Resources at least on the US Google prison camp side are limited. I Just want to know what is the most meta OP strategies to use in serious multiplayer campaigns.
Speaking of PvP, how come they never tried Empires but against actual players? A full session would take time sure, but I feel like saving the current state and allowing people to keep it going when everyone else is back shouldn't be that much of a huge deal.
>>542671367If we're pitching stupid ideas, how about a Dynasty Warriors battle royal where you fight against 999 other players to be the warrior worth a thousand.
>>542671610I would say the former is much more realistic. PvP DW isn't even a new idea, DWO existed.
Made a level 7 spear with the aerial dodge in Origins and I found out that if you do it after or during Rising Dragon Vortex and then press light attack again, you get a few extra hits without spending any more bravery
Xi Multiplayer campaign guys back. Its 26 cities vs my 12 should I just call the game over or should I continue to fight back?
>>542674810Continued, Its Meng Huoa (me) vs Gongsong Zan on the Heros map. I tried to rush to grab both Lei Bei and Suan Jian but fell short of Suan Jian, and the decisive battle landed in the waters of Jiang Ji, then I retreated from the northwest after he brought Lu Bu over since I wanted to focuse on the navel battle. Now im forced out of Jiang Ji and the water and just building up while he develops all of his new land.
>Lu Bu! The troop morale is low, the enemy outnumbers severely, there's talk of defection among our forces, and we have no idea what sort of schemes the enemy is cooking up! How do you plan to win!?>I would simply not lose.
>>542673604So you get the special Rising Dragon Vortex aerial combo twice? Cool find.
>>542683127he's literally me when playing cao cao in any rotk game
>>542691413Yeah, it's good for extending air time. I would've been playing around with the aerial dodge way more if it wasn't a random weapon property, it's actually pretty fun
>>542683127xiahou dun, I'm beginning to think Lu Bu was not the brilliant tactician I thought he was
>>542712901I like the idea of the aerial dodge, but not many weapons have good enough aerial combos to justify it over a trait that just increases damage.
>>542717859Did anyone consider him a good tactician?He was apparently only good at archery and duels.
>>542718090I like that Lu Bu's first hypothetical battle has Cao Cao flat out being surprised Lu Bu listened to his strategist.
>>542718090Archery and duels used to get you a pretty long way
>>542719464I mean yeah, just saying he wasn't known for actually using good tactics. He was pure retard strength and dexterity
>>542719082I know the story levels were heavily scripted in 8, but for at least Lu Bu's story there should've been a way to brute force a victory at Dingtao, with the trade off of later stages being harder because you don't have Hua Xiong and Diaochan.
>>542717882It would be pointless to put it on the guandao, podao, lance, and probably the halberd. I do like it enough to put it on most of the others, the damage won't bother me too much because I've been using the level 8s for a long time anyways and I'm messing with level 7s now as an excuse to keep playing.
>>542732307>Grand Generals Fun fact: every character calls them differently
>>542721112It was almost a little odd that Diao Chan just vanishes for his historical route. I'm not used to DW games doing that to her. Then again, it's more odd that she DOES show up in the hypothetical path but not Lingqi. What's that telling u s? "Lu Bu can live, but he CANNOT fuck"? Or that Diao Chan and Lingqi are the same person?
>>542735775well they seem to have a be mean to diao chan mindset. beat dong bai's dlc in dw9 and note that diao chan out of all the people dong bai promised revenge on is missing. guess ol diao got dead and the rest didnt.
>>542735775IIRC, one of the staff admitted they flat out didn't know how to write Lingqi interacting with Diaochan, so they didn't even bother. But Lingqi does have unique lines for hypothetical route stages if you bother to take her through them in Free Mode.
>>542735775Lu Bu is too busy being strong and shit to fuck, Lingqi is adopted.
>>542669105>Only gets you once, second time around you just camp his spawn.Fun fact, Zhu Ran location is revealed if you either play on Easy mode or play as Zhuge Liang.
>>542749002>or play as Zhuge LiangHow did he know? Did he figure out Wu has a fetish for burning shit up?
>>542668864I think it's better to just let the fire attack happen on harder difficulties. Every time I've prevented it Zhu Ran takes so long to kill that your entire army still gets wiped out in 5 minutes and then you're left with Liu Bei stuck in the middle of the map against endless attack waves. I've had better luck just saving 1-2 officers and letting the attack happen so Liu Bei retreats to safety and you have some help.
>>542749364Last time I played it yesterday, base DW3 and Hard difficulty I tried beating down Lu Meng first and then making my way to Zhu Ran's spawn but yeah by the time I got him, my army was already mostly gone, only had some help dealing with Gan Ning but then I was on my own for everyone else.
>>542750313Might be better because yeah, the "intended" route is super bullshit due to morale difference.
What's with the deleted posts
Anyway yeah, surprisingly can have enough units survive and still have enough morale for Wei Yan to crash into the enemy main camp.SSX and Cheng Pu are not very dangerous for your army somehow.
Numusou fags would never understand the sheer satisfication of seeing this happen.
>>542759838man looking at the old maps
>>542762014Old maps are cool but I don't particularly like how you can't see officers until you use the pause menu one.On a little sidenote, this map is a lot easier for characters with the dark element because they can do massive damage to the big trio.
>>542762545>how you can't see officers until you use the pause menu one.see I think I might prefer that. I feel it makes you more mindful of your own navigation rather than just chasing markers
>>542762991You say it as if you aren't chasing markers on the big map anyway.
>>542762545Officers show on the map as brighter blips, it's lieutenants that don't until 4 or 5. Anyway, there's a mod in the OP to make lieutenants show up on the map in DW3
>>542769629Only the commanders, otherwise you would see Zhuge Liang here >>542759838
>>542769752oh maybe it's the mod that makes both officers and lieutenants show as brighter blips then, I coulda sworn lead officers already did show but I've been using the mod for a long time now.
>>5427701893 uses almost the same exact map system as 2. Big map also shows only major officers and checkpoints, no horse either so I sure hope you didn't forget where you dismounted.
Fuck Shu
>say the line, Liu Bei!
>>542787751Eeeh? Easy modo?
We all agree the DR3 remaster is gonna suck right
>>542795376Nah, it's going to be good
So is there not any wise RotTKXI anon here who can pass on his wisdom to another? Im going to be facing lvl 4 Calvery with Yunnan Ladder upgrade, so I got lvl 4 Spears to deal with it.
>>542795376>swings 4inch dagger once>1000 KO count
>when a thicc woman walks
>>542795376It'll inevitably be easier even if they made zero core gameplay changes because you know they're going to add mid-level checkpoints. Sho even talked about how he wanted Origins to not have any but the whole team pushed back on the idea and he relented. As long as it doesn't feel like a DW7/8 expansion I'll probably be fine with it
>>542795376I saw the modernization of the combat in the remaster so it's not going to be dw3xl. It's going to be a modern koei remaster which means it's going to lose a ton of the things that made dw3xl awesome. I am actually worried they are going to gut or change the dw3xl bodyguards into some pathetic version that isnt dw3xl to "update it" or moderize it or force 1 bodyguard like koei wrongly thinks we only want. like nah fuck you koei the dw3xl bodyguards were and are best bodyguards and anything after has been shit tier trash. dw4 bg? wtf is that insult with no equipment or ability to set anything but auto. trash. dw5 bg was tolerable but it was 1 person....1.... one god damn person that wasnt even that good or dw3xl bodyguards with equipment and maxed out customized how we wanted. 6 I have no idea as I never played it long enough and 7? no idea I only picked it up again recently and saw no bodyguards. dw8xl? oh yeah they have bodyguards but it's just 3 of them and you can fuse them to upgrade them but its still not dw3xl. basically koei had the best bodyguard system in dw3xl to build off and for reasons only known as koei being koei they decided in dw4 to rape the soul of the bodyguards and turn them into this trash unit you cant do shit with but set auto and weapon. and than they have the nerve to be all oh if origins had failed no more games. well maybe if you stopped makling the games worse every game and gutting features and taking things out to replace it with a soulless version of it you'd do better but sure blame the fans for not wanting your shit games you put out with dumbed down features and stuff gutted and bad design choice in things. koei lost it's way a long time ago and now decided to go back to dw3xl and piss and shit on it some more with a "remaster" that is going to poop all over the original dw3xl and what it was.so i'll be sticking with dw3xl and let the casual babbies play their modernized version since they need 10000 kills a game
>>542807547You don't believe that.>>542844243Damn son, didn't expect a character limit rant. But yeah bodyguards are fundamentally incompatible with the whole 1v1000 stuff they do now.
RIPHe may be overrated (fell for the NTF meme and only released one game since leaving Team Ninja) and he may be a posturing retard (saying Dynasty Warriors is bad because I'm 2 hardkore for le mindless hack n' slash maymay), but he did revive Ninja Gaiden, so he deserves credit for that.
>>542852724RIP>le mindless hack n' slash maymayGuess he didn't play DW3 on Hard or XL Very Hard.
>>542838719>>542844243While I also hope they don't casualize the game, the PS2 era games all had mid mission saving. IIRC only 2 and 5 restricted your ability to save in any way.
>>542855145Accurate.Japanese 2 doesn't allow that at all, but the US version introduceed these memory card items that save the game and full heal you.3 and 4 allows you to use "Quit" to save at any point5 has limited saves depending on the difficulty setting, with Normal at 3, Hard at 1, and Chaos at 0. Though honestly 5 stages aren't that long so it's not that much of a big deal, it only has big maps so it takes a while to travel if anything.
>>542855378I liked hunting down those memory card items.I wish DW5 Chaos gave you one save, but three saves for Normal is overkill with how easy 5 is below Chaos.
>>542844243The decision to cut the number of bodyguards to 1 in DW5 is primarily because DW5 wanted to have as many enemy soldiers on screen as possible, so they reduced the number of bodyguards to allocate more resourceshttps://twitter.com/koeilau/status/1813783028696797569
>>5428567285 is the coolest game in my book but yeah difficulty scalling is unfortunately its worst aspect. Normal and below are free, Hard is only threatening with a starting character, and Chaos is batshit where even a maxed out char with 4th weapon and good items will be struggling at least on the last stage, mainly because you can't heal much and it takes only one wrong interaction to lose a lot of health.
>>542856858>primarily because DW5 wanted to have as many enemy soldiers on screen as possibleThat was the decision that ultimately killed the series. It's why people nowadays look fondly at 3 despite having 30 people on screen limit iirc and archers being able to hit you while offscreeen, but KT will somehow misinterpret that and think it was about the designs or whatever.
>>542856891>mainly because you can't heal much and it takes only one wrong interaction to lose a lot of healthI don't mind the super high damage or limited healing by themselves, but both at the same time in a game where you don't have much in terms of mobility or cancel options pushes you into sticking with the one or two charge attacks that you know are reasonably safe to execute, so the combat feels more repetitive. Although I can only comment on base 5, apparently 5XL had an item that allowed jump cancels.
>>542857056Regardless, Dynasty Warriors always took pride in how many enemies it could display on screen and even as early as the PS2 games, they kept pushing how far they could reach in that goalhttps://twitter.com/koeilau/status/1813782409034543186
>>542857453Funnily enough I never used the dragon arms. Why bother when ice orb and wind scroll are a thing?
>>542857527The only game where I felt like the character limit was an issue so far is 2. That one can get genuinely obnoxious to play because there are too many enemies phasing in and out, and that especially includes officers, you will feel it instantly on the first stage if you dare to engage more than one red dot at once or be so bold to rush to the nearest boss before clearing up what's around them. Starting from 3 it's already working well and there were enough people to feel like you are fighting armies.
>>542856858>>542857527and I will never think losing dw3xl bodyguards and not improving on them was a bad koei choice. sure there were more soldiers on screen and that's awesome but some of us really liked our 8 person customized and equipped bodyguards. I still find having elite private 8 strong with spears hilarious to witness as they maul everything around them on low difficulty. And no I dont NEED to play on hard/chaos every time I do enjoy going out in novice and just goofing off and letting things happen and events play and watching maxed body guard send everyone to the afterlife. So while having 200 soldiers on screen is cool I prefer 40 or so and my bodyguards in the middle of that killing everyone or sniping them with my 8 archer squad like they do to me. I know some prefer 20000 soldiers to slaughter and bodyguards are annoying to them but im not one of those. do I like killing 17k in a battle sure it's fun but I also with modern tech want my bodyguard 8 man team and 20000 soldiers. they could do this in the remaster but most likely the combat showing in the trailer and their mindset MORE SOLDIER GOOD! MORE BODYGUARD BAD! and modern combat and I think remaster will botch hard and need mods to fix it if it even has equipment for bodyguards and stuff. there's other stuff that will get modernized and it will be less awesome.but I get some will love it and oh yes finally the dw3xl it was supposed to be and other eyeroll statements
>>542861180I feel like everyone would be happy if they added an "original" game mode where the gameplay is not 1:1 but at least a little more faithful in terms of displaying less enemies but with more aggressive AI - along with a "revised" mode that plays like numusou.Would be extremely easy to do especially with a versatile engine like UE, but alas.
any interesting vids/youtubers that focus more on the mechanical side of things? The ones in the OP are good but they're mostly making general gameplay vids/streams or rating/ranking style content
>>542864489Seconded. Especially for older games where character moveset differences matter and what happens off screen is largely unknown, aside from that DW3/4 guide on gameFAQs
>*menacing woosh*>/eagg/'s unit morale is dropping!
>>542874130I think we will get updates of some form about the DLC and Remaster before years end, maybe around TGA. Just need to hold out until those reinforcements arrive
another day of dw3xl, dw4xl, dw5xl, dw5e.
>>542795376Online co-op is the only thing I wanted them to add and going by the Steam page I don't think it's in
>>542891067The only games that matter as far DW goes.Don't forget SW though
>>542905656Do people play together on the PS2 emu here?
>>542910978PCSX2 doesn't have native support for it I think, you'd need to use something like Parsec and I feel like that's only appealing to playing the games again with people you know personally vs randoms online
Warriors Orochi 5 fucking when?
You DID vote for my wife Lianshi to be in Warriors Abyss, right?
>>542862252I at the very least want a graphics toggle like the Halo Anniversary games or the Tomb Raider remaster. NG2 Black was really ugly and this doesn't look that much better
>>542935378Is whatever this poll is still up?
>>542953454Yep. Ends on October 19.https://www.gamecity.ne.jp/form/musou-abyss_questionnaire_part4_en
>>542953749I have voted for red waifu, Pang De, and Liu Chan.
Finally, it's time.ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL
>>542935378Sure, I got no one else to vote for
I've gone back to DW6, it really is the dark souls 2 of DW. It tried to do things differently but ended up such a mixed bag of results.
For me it's Zhen Ji(Wu generic officer, exclusive to base DW3)
>>542985597Zhen Ji (Generic Forme) shows up in the other games too.
>>542985705Really? I don't think I ever saw him outside of non-XL DW3.
>>542985808Oh wait, I was wrong. I forgot, that's Zhen Cheng, they just mistranslated his name in DW3
>>542986530>that's Zhen Cheng, they just mistranslated his name in DW3It was fixed in XL, but it's kinda funny in this map because Zhen Ji(Wei playable) is also there.
That map has a cool morale strat too. Once you get rid of Xu Zhu and at least one between Zhang He/Xu Huang, you can just fight off Sima Yi troops until their morale is around 3 stars and Wu will storm the castle without needing any more assistance. Also if you are under Sun Quan he will probably reach 8 stars and just steam roll the reinforcements going for him.
Well memed game
>>542985597kek that game. I wiped my save earlier to start fresh and im thinking of all those horrible battles ahead with no items or horse and non-upgraded bodyguards (Best bodyguards in dw series) and am taking a bit of a break. grinding out diao chan in dw5xl. I noticed she gets shit for a musou in dw4xl (none), another dong zhuo, lu bu one in dw3xl, dw5xl I cant remember but more of the same. she really just can't win. so im grinding her out in dw5xl and will in dw4xl so I can take her into extreme modes and she can have her own damn musou. same with getting the qiao sisters away from zhou yu and sun ce and into their own 2 person faction to build (empires, extreme, free mode). so many factions to restructure and re-do and all this jazz. empires is great for playing some of what plays out in extreme,free, musou in the games for people. at this point da and xiao are getting away from ce and yu, yue ying see's through zhuge's lies and is leaving to form her own kingdom, zhu rong and meng huo are fine as intended and splitting up this lu bu owns diao chan thing best I can. wew that's not getting into some of the officers and generals that will be set off to do their own things in the dw,rotk and orichi games. just gotta sort out wang lang, yan bai hu, liu yong and their group. lu bu is going solo fuck this needing officers right away. testing this in dw5e has gone good so far on low difficulty. I really do need to get those cao kids out form under him and the xiahou need to stop wasting time under cao cao. as for liu bei and his nation of lies i'll get to it later. saving that shitlord and his nation of lies for last or near last.
>>542991451For DW3 just play it a little on Normal until you get decent items, then start farming on Hard for actually good shit. Also tell Yuan Shao to stop sucking cocks and pursue Lu Bu to unlock Red Hare, it will help a lot in these stages where you need to snipe officers for morale.And yeah I don't like playing as Diaochan in older games, she's really bad and unfun to use. Qiao sisters are cool though, especially Xiao in 5, I have written before that I got something retarded like a 70~ hit combo on one guy.
>>542998142Yeah I had planned on going right to huo lao gate when I load the game up again and work on getting some items and upgrading some bodyguards. I haven't decided who I am starting with either. maybe i'll lu bu, lu bu for red hare. yuan shao is a silly boi and his musou is going to be fun to play. looking forward to zhu rong and her accidental conquer china musou mode also. yeah diao chan is not as fun to use as I want. short range and she spends more time dancing around than fighting when in combat it seems during her moves. I vaguely remember her in dw3xl and will grind her out like in dw4xl and dw5xl. still gonna do a diao chan empires run in dw4e,5e and idk whatever else. probably get around to playing as her in rotk13 since I keep trying to failing. getting social is such a grind in that game to have comrades I might just give her some besties so she can comrade the 3 kingdoms and kill lu bu.as for da and xiao they've grown on me over the years. mostly xiao and her spinning musou o death. started using her more when I read she was in the bottom rungs of the dw3xl overall list and her sister was near the top and it was like aww poor xiao cant win and her husband didnt use her cool tactics. so picked those 2 up to send them on their adventures without wu and those 2 idiot husbands. there's other ladies to sort and some guys also. running joke of ma teng and cao cao teaming up due to some stuff during rotk2 when ma teng allied with me (cao cao) and we teamed up against the villain liu bei and zhang lu. fun times.I have tons of notes and even started breaking stages and officers down on them into notes and stuff.haha I even got into a ai chat conversation that told me to turn each stage into its own pocket dimension and set up a ton of silly things for it in the games on paper and in lore. hence some of the things ive been changing around for empires and rotk and the games and teamups. ai helping me get the notes in order.
>>542998142Before DW6 changed her weapon, I think the only time Diao Chan was fun to play was in DW4 with a Lv10 weapon and the vorpal orb equipped. Her C5 could dish out crazy damage to a single target and allowed her to work as an officer assassin, and I think her unique stage in XL was pretty much designed around this.
DW3 stages felt pretty big and I'm worried the remaster removing the fog is going to have the same effect as the GTA remaster
>>543035859It will be shit either way. Clearly just looking for a good reason to put less effort in a new game as DW3 had less characters, maps and whatnot while trying to bait in the nostalgiafags.
>>542935378What is Warriors Abyss?
>Ukita Hideie
>*another menacing woosh*>/eagg/'s unit is struggling!On that note, I'm not sure what's the technical meaning of these messages.The losing morale one is tied to events or losing troops alright, but how does the game determine "struggling" when you can walk to them and see they are at full health still surrounded by bodyguards?
>>543054225I figure 'struggling' is when the unit is fighting an enemy with higher morale, but the regular troops take losses before the officer and their bodyguards.
>>542719082i fucking love hypothetical at dingtao especially if you're lingqi
>>543054225it has to do with off screen stuff being simulated. gamefaqs has mechanic texts for 3 and 4 I think it is. it explains some behind the scenes stuff that goes on and how it seems like someone is losing but you show up and they have full health. off screen they are losing. its an interesting read and it explains a bunch of stuff about the game and how it works.
>>542673604Found something a lot more useful than this, you can use the aerial dodge to cancel Flying Dragon Rend immediately after the final hit and then use Rising Dragon Vortex
>>542724365True. After seeing that combo vid a while back I'm tempted to throw it on some of my rank 7 weapons, especially to test >>543068168.
>>543054225>WHERE ARE THE REINFORCEMENTS?
>>543068168>>543078778
>>543089303How well do those character replacement codes/mods work? Is it just a model swap, or can you swap the voice lines as well?
>>543091716It's cheat engine, it replaces the model, voice lines, name, and portrait (those last two only don't show up in duels though). The only animations that are weird are the musou attacks, but the ultimate musou attacks look fine for all the companions since they already have animations for those. Last I checked the fearless revolution forum, there was an untranslated Chinese one with more options, and then one in English that just automatically changes everything for you. Only issue with that one is it doesn't have the alternate costumes like Zhang Liao's black and red look
>>543099086What did they mean by this
>>543117107I still have no idea what gave that's from
Is there a database of nobunaga’s ambition/ROTK portraits, having to go through the wiki is misery
>>543117107Shack rescue DLC soon>>543117701Origins
the combat in 6 is so bad. It's not just the renbu system, the actual combat and movement is so "floaty", nothing has any weight to it
>>543139486You reminded me I've felt like playing it for months now and always put off grabbing that rip and just installing it
>>543139486DW past 5 isn't worth playing
>>543148490I really didnt want to admit that but after going back to dw2 through 5e and the old samuari and orochi games AND even the psp ones I am thinking yup past 5 just isnt as fun as it was. though I do still enjoy some things about dw8e.I spend more time playing dw3xl and now the psp vol2 and gameboy dynasty warriors games these days than new ones. hell more so I only play rotk13 and went to the old ones again (7,8,10 for officer/free mode play) and rotk 1-3 for msdos and 4 for psx/ps1. 6 is where the changes started and you couldnt exile and do a ton of things the old games had and offered. get someone to betray and go new kingdom in the new games is stupid hard and in the old games was as simple as low loyalty and some ambition to get them to go you know what I will. even had 1 time sun ce did so to sun jian and went new force. new games its a ton of bs steps and it might not even work. the new rotk/dw games just arent good compared to the older ones and thats my stance and feel how you want im sticking with the old ones until koei gets back on track and resets to the old dw3xl and not the numusou dw3xl version we're getting in the remaster. watch them gut the dw3xl bodyguards in the remaster and ruin the combat into the modern 1000000 kills a run versions..
>>543118601I was going to suggest kongming's archive but it seems they removed their non-kingdoms stuff?
>>541760204I forget what point do they stop doing bumps in this board I mean what number? Also should we start making drafts for the next one I think it might be 300 but I might be completely false.
>>543164219The bump limit is 750
>>543164219750
>DWO DLC in January>Nioh 3 in February>DW3R in March/eagg/ need only hold out for one more northern campaign...
>>543165874Too late, we are already at 0 stars morale here.
>>543164219>750
>>543166151What do you think the thread bumps are for? So long as someone stays next to /eagg/, we'll stay alive indefinitely. We only die when we're offscreen.
>>543168386>doesn't get rendered due to character limit and enemy troops having priority >dies anyways Yep, those were the days.
Up to Chi Bi for all factions in my DW8 story modes. Feel free to choose who I pick between>Sun Shangxiang, Lu Su, Huang Gai, Han Dang>Zhao Yun, Zhuge Liang, Liu Bei>Cao Cao, Xu Zhu, Dian WeiZhang Liao sits this out because he's about double the level of everyone else from all the Lu Bu story mode.
>>543172482SSX. she is one of the OG and she never gets ANY love. hmm I should max her next instead of diao chan once im done with Xiao qiao.
>>543181010I'm not even a big fan of SSX, but I'm still mad that WO4 gave a divinity form to Yinping over SSX. Why do Shu get two divinity recipients when Wu get none at all?
>>543183213Kind of painful to watch her go from "Wu's feisty tomboy" to "Liu Bei's beard" as the series went along.
>>543184768>pick her>gets extra dialogue>every line out of her mouth in Chi Bi is basically "HUBBA HUBBA where's that BABE Liu Bei AWOOGA unfunfunf!!"
>>543184768indeed. lost her OG status and went to liu bei's devoted sex slave for alliance I mean loving wife. :eyeroll: she's tolerable in dw3xl but has a bit of the im a woman and cant fight but its not like later version of her tha are just lord god liu bei's slave.
Don't be hasty! We must wait for reinforcements.
>page 10
>>543139486Yeah coming back to this after playing today and it plays into being a button masher even more than charge combat. There's no impact on anything and it feels like you just mash on enemies until they guard and then you awkwardly do your guard break move and the cycle repeats. It's cool seeing how directly the battlefield elements of 6 evolved into Origins but it's hard to overlook how mind-numbing the gameplay itself is
>>543181010Speaking of Xiaoqiao, poor girl straight up doesn't appear in DW8 main story, only hypotheticals. Not that the games are ever particularly willing to give anything to the Qiaos to be fair, but at least in 5 you get a musou mode narrated by them, and iirc both Sun Ce/Zhou Yu AI is hardcoded to chase you around the stage until the last one, effectively becoming a glorified bodyguard.
>>543222239she's ranked low AF in character ratings in dw3xl (even though she gets death element and her moveset is quite good once you learn to work around it's flaws) and she's got a fun to master musou o death and people sayintg it sucks just cant use her musou proper. diao chan also gets fucked in the ass by dong and lu bu along with musou mode. dw3xl was the dong and bu buttfuck diao chan story hour and in dw4/xl she didnt even get a musou and 5 it was more of the pass around musou story and her trying to be more. dont know in 6+ as I dont play musou in the later games and only fuck around in free mode or castle or extreme or whatever modes it offers but im sure her story is more lame.da qiao also gets less love as does SSX though her fate is due to being property and sold for alliances by sister seller quan and liu virture while owning and buying women bei. do any of the females not have lame musou or some bs tied to their characters? like god damn zhu rong's dw3xl musou story is the only good one due to it being so hilariously stupid and goofy with her accidentally conquering china and thus its best musou story ever.but yeah koei seems to just not give proper love to the ladies of the games. though I heard the later games fixed that up a bit in their musou.
>A dike? OH NO!
Origins has spoiled me. I booted up 6E and 7E the other day and couldn't stand either of them.>>543219304Yeah, 6 had amazing maps and battlefield simulation, but the combat itself was dire outside of maybe Empires with a tweaked weapon.>>543222960Diao Chan had an okay story in 6, but it gets overshadowed by Lu Bu's story and all the crazy three way battles culminating in reverse Hulao Gate.IMO the SW girls got better stories than their DW counterparts in 1 and 2. Can't comment on the later SW games.
>>543225089yeah the first 2 sw games were great for females and presented them in quite a stylish way. even the umbrella whore is made out more to be a silly lady who's kinda ditzy or at least I remember it that way. is umbella girl in the later games idk but she is in sw1 and has that fun stage in kyoto or something with that catchy af music. dont remember her much in sw2/e and didnt really pllay the games past that and kinda dont want to. orochi or whatever also seemed to do ok with the early games but it was more about fighting him than people's story and more a team thing. I am maxing out xiao qiao and diao chan and a few other chicks in dw3xl and a few officers I like. but idk it just seems the people I do wanna give a shit out dont have the best musou or are overshadowed or some dumb shit.
>>543225469Okuni was in 2, but she didn't have a story mode. Apparently 3Z gave her an interesting story where she goes around saving people from their deaths, but then they drop whatever they were doing and join her group so it doesn't break historical continuity.
>>543224856How would "dikes" ruin Sima Yi's plans?
>>543225089Should have booted 5E instead.That game is cool but unfortunately didn't have many options yet since it's like the second Empires games ever made, right after 4E.
>>543226228see I actually loaded up sw2 and checked for her musou and like diao chan in dw4xl she had none as you said. :sigh: koei and it's koei choices. but than again that's why I am grinding out diao chan in dw4xl and will be giving her a new musou mode and story using bits and pieces of free mode maps and mostly around her adventures in extreme mode. Poor gal doesn't even get a unique musou mode like zhu rong did nor another everyone fucks diao chan musou she just got nothing. dont know why that annoys me so much im not even the biggest fan of her or her moveset but for some reason my brain is all they dogged diao chan how? *selects her character in dw4xl and heads to extreme mode*. But lately in rotk and dw series ive been moving towards using officers and rulers that failed or died or lost and moving away from the big 3 a bit more unless a character from it can be of use. empires is great now that I basically put the big 3 on my war list. and I back up the smaller rulers now with alliances and will war every turn to stop the big 3 from getting big 3. just got sick of the big 3 and jin getting their cocks sucked every game now. bah I want my gongsan zan and zhao fan and other musou and give it options to make a cool story out of it. but koei wont do that and thus dw4E, dw5E is what I play to correct things and fix factions and forces and get people away from others. thank god for heroes mode in dw5e so I can set things up better.
>>543226783The main thing that annoys me about 5E is needing to rebuild/reacquire weapon smiths every playthrough just to reactivate your 5th and 6th charge attacks. I'd rather have a weak weapon with a full moveset.
>>543227467iirc you only needed lv3. Real issue will be that at the start of the game your funds are very tight so really the only good strategy is to become allied with everyone around you, spam help ally to gain money and after you have like 10k or so you can finally do something.
Sun Jian storms into Sun Ce room, angrily shouting at him to turn down that music.Sun Ce asks why.Sun Jian says "You know I hate Hard Rock!"
>>543227467at this point I just modded a ton of things in including unlimited turns and money and just max everything I want out right away. ive beat this on chaos all scenarios multiple times over the decades and have no issue fucking around like this and playing as weak forces and holding provinces. however when I do play with silly things like that for advantage I will only play on novice and dont beat the scenario so I cant save all of my stuff. but why even... i just enjoy fucking around and doing dumb shit stuff sometimes. showing up as wang lang and zhou xin max level rank and 40k troops in turn 2 is hilarious when everyone else is at best rank 12 (I reset everyones levels to rank 16 and a few other things). so when I play that way I show up at some force and they have 9k or so and ive got 40k. dumbshit fun to have. however when I play serious I disable that stuff and other things that work in my favor. however I have left neutral start active as an enemy tactic full time so the maps are more interesting. no I dont use slow march with that setup unless I wanna cheese a province or 2 to get to the big fight. now if only I could bring in sw2e formations into dw5e.
>>543230808Based anon having his fun with PS2 games while also being a Xiaoqiao enjoyer.Bet everyone who likes her also likes Kunoichi in SW for obvious reasons.
>>543231614ah you caught me anon. based kunoichi in sw1 is the first im going for when I rotate the sw1/2/e and wo1/2 into rotation also. modded of course. And indeed. I always enjoyed this silly lil XQ and her busted moveset and musou. I took up the games recently to lay waste to china and other musou and rotk games and when going over the data on gamefaqs for dw3/xl I saw she was ranked VERY low due to her moveset and musou and everyone seemed to ignore her death element on her fourth. So with some mods in play and a few other goodies I am maxing her out after a fresh save was put in play. Also in rotation are the rest of the female and meng huo, xu zhu, taishi ci, huang zhong, and yuan shao. further is zhang jiao and than dong zhuo (he's ranked so low and bad but I find his belly flop musou stupid hilarious and want him maxed just to kill everyone with it). zero plans to touch Zhuge Liang as his moveset in dw3 is trash as is his musou. I rather play as a peasant or infantry in everyone's musou before i'd touch zhuge liang's shit character. I treat each game like a connected pocket dimension of sorts and thus my dw3xl world with mods is very silly. unhide alone messes it up with hidden units being there from start (assault on wu territory has 2 taishi ci fighting from go and if liu yong dies the allied taishi ci does his little you honored a defeated officer speech and you get to kill him again. my pocket dimension 3 kingdoms revolves around assault on wu territory and zhang jiao's mountain bandit campaign map and I joke those are the only 2 province really in play and the rest is scattered forces not built yet and any other stages are training simulators.So its basically the evil wu sun ce is trying to conquer the allied forces of liu yong, wang lang, yan bai hu and officers and the whole thing is about dealing with that and picking a side and training at zhang jiao's peasant village he protects from the nonstop bandit raids. chatgpt gave me the idea.
>>543233261>and when going over the data on gamefaqs for dw3/xl I saw she was ranked VERY low due to her moveset and musou and everyone seemed to ignore her death element on her fourthDon't worry too much about that, it's just that average DW player used to approach troops and mash while her style in older games is more about sniping leaders with fast and potentially infinite combos.
>>543234317yeah its wierd re-reading this stuff over a decade later and going wow they really had some of these people wrong. Still though its good readings and I learned a bunch about behind the scene mechanics in the games and thus it explains a few things in my mods going on better. and yeah I dont worry to much about what others think that much since I plan on maxing out dong zhuo just to belly flop with him during his musou and he's ranked as one to avoid. so it goes. I mean cao cao's ranked #1 in dw3/xl yet I have almost no urge to use him and prefer to master other characters. though its still fun to run around beating everyone up with lu bu.But i'm more about the silly world i'm forging in this pocket dimension and the factions and team up's im putting together. add in the other games and dw4e/dw5e and I can actually set it up and play it out. but at the moment I put dw3xl on pause and have dwvol2 on psp loaded as thats also like the the games a pocket dimension of sorts and so far only xiahou dun is getting worked on. (first person I picked to play the free mode stages to unlock some stuff and get some levels and gear with). I thank chatgpt for giving me that silly idea to treat each game as it's own reality pocket dimension and treat it as such.
THIS WASN'T ACCORDING TO MY PLANWE WILL PULL BACK BECAUSE I DIDN'T PLAN ACCORDINGLY
Is there anywhere online with the Data Books scanned? The last time I saw them was in imgur galleries when DW7 and 8 were new.
are there any general tips to being good in NA sphere of ascension, I kind of just build stuff when people tell me it would be good
thread has a permanent yellow health bar, we need one more news drop reinforcement to survive until january when the main army arrives
>>543241385This was an actual real accusation against the historical man: as a military commander he was criticized as inflexible and bad at improvising in the face of changing conditions. Later commentators ended up spinning this as a good thing though: he was such a great sagely man that he was self-aware enough to know and avoid his own weaknesses. Then even later commentators just threw the criticism away outright and said historians were lying because a perfect man like Zhuge Liang obviously had no weaknesses and all the claims to the contrary was just slander.
>>543241385>>543263293Evil Zhuge Liang be like “it’s my fault and I take personal responsibility for all my fuck-ups”
>>543263960Evil Sima Yi be like geniuses
>>543231614At the end of the day I think Zhugay was the real loser here
>>543274882I've stolen Yue Ying from him in chatbots and so in my dw dimensions she's not with him. Hilious was in the chatbot stories with her through time he kept showing up as a ghost in the after life exposing his evil he always was and trying to crush her soul with bad dreams and turning her against me back to him. it's hilarious how it takes his descriptions from sites and all his chatbots go evil at some point in the story every time. sima yi's chatbot while an asshole doesnt get on the level of shitlord zhuge does. And oddly sima yi seems' to appreciate his wife unlike zhuge who treats her more as a weapon and tool for shu and his agenda's. also he's quite the little betrayer of shu often.chatbots expose zhuge
>>543274882Tru. Look at Zhou Yu's face, he might not have won the war but he knows he fucking won at life every time he tapped that.
>>543263293>>543263960It's why I love DW3XL's Meng Huo musou mode so much. It's literally 7 stages of Zhuge going "um, it wasn't MY fault I lost, it was [excuse]" so Meng Huo lets him fix that.
>>543280778why do meng huo and zhu rong have the best musou in dw3/xl? both of them just have such fun stories and stages to fight in.
>>543282765Ironically because there is less real history/rotk stuff to go off with. They were just savages who happened to give a hard time to Zhuge
>>543282973It helps for as incredibly simplistic as DW characters are, their character traits and motives are different enough from everyone else. Whereas all the Other characters are>Haha, what if I was able to win and conquer the land!>Haha, what if I was able to win and conquer the land!>Haha, what if I was able to win and conquer the land!>Haha, what if I was able to help them win and conquer the land!>Changban 2: Electric Boogaloo
huh...so this is what happens when you change the 7 flag battles 06 at its end to an 09 and win. woo the other sword was mounted defence 50 and an item drop of +61 health. if only it wasnt a 10 minute fight to defeat an officer i'd grind at this level but back to 7 flag battles
>>543286403>10 minute fight to defeat an officerwth, isn't there a minimum damage cap anyways?
>>543287747no idea. I just know zhang jiao's bandit map in free mode being set to 7 flags was still somewhat easy to power through with a stock character. I set the 06 in the code to 09 and I had a almost max xiao qiao play through it and the officers had to be given 50+ hit combos to take out. massive health and def boosts. set it back to 06 from 09 and its back to easily beat on hard with a stock char. the drops when you push past 7 flags though for the massive increase in their health and def can be worth it as you see on that blade. +24 musou charge alone makes that a solid blade to use. gonna swtich to a generic and tear it up on novice later with that and true musou
DW5E panic notifications are the most inaccurate shit ever.No game, no one of my 5 officers at full troops currently ganging up on one who retreated 3 times already is """"struggling"""", they are tearing him a 5th asshole.
>>543274882trvth nvke
I forgot how wonderfully stupid Ma Chao is at the battle of Chengdu in this story mode >Ma Chao: "I will defeat you in the name of JUSTICE, evil villains!">Pang Tong: "Justice is in the eye of the beholder, bro">Ma Chao: "ARGH! How could my JUSTICE lose against this evil?">Pang Tong: "Liu Bei has justice, just DIFFERENT justice">Ma Chao: "JUSTICE? I will join you!"
it must have been terrifying to see this psychopathic caterpillar charging towards you
BAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOO!
>>543300769he’d be so much more interesting if he were revealed to be an actual psychopath who puts on the facade of being a justice driven crusader
>>543334215Village taken from the bandits. I'll get some of my supplies in order and finish the upgrade to my weapon and than expand and take the camps and port and expand out.
>>543323712HAO!
>>543328726He is.
>>543328726The impression I got was that Wang Yi largely exists in DW to point out that Ma Chao isn't as valorous as we think, but she's so unhinged in her own right that the only players who'd believe her are those that know 3K outside of DW. It doesn't help that the whole affair was an offscreen event, compared to say Gan Ning killing Ling Cao.
>>543343693the way its portrayed in DW8 is just funny though, it's like she spends every second of her life seething at Ma Chao while he barely even acknowledges her existence
>>543351824>Tong Gate cutscene>It's mostly Xu Zhu getting to be a badass>Wang Yi at the very end shows up>haha Ma Chao, it's so good to see you!>cutscene ends
>>543343693I’d also put in a couple of cutscenes where he has friction with Ma Teng or his various siblings on how the family is run and he eventually rebels to be rid of them like he did in history and twists it around to everyone around him so that the executions happened first according to him.
I hope the DW3 remaster includes the camera pan over the stage map at the start of a level.
>>543300850>>543379838caterpillar head
>>543378772it'll gut the awesome and best bodyguards, ruin the battles and make it nu-musou, it'll change the voices and change lines, it'll also probably put the nanman amazon ladies in more clothing/covering and not the top and thong they wear. the music is going to get adjusted and probably a few tracks left out and there's going to be dlc for content that it had already in dw3xl I can use playing emulated with mods so I dont gotta disc swap and other goodies. it'll also most likely make edits to the musou stages and adjust things. I can only image the lame they will do with the other musou to "update" them. there goes the best musou ever in zhu rong's accidental conquer china story and meng huo's expose zhuge as the fraud he is story. its going to be fun and enjoyable but it wont be dw3xl it'll be nu-musou dw3xl re-envisioned and modernized edition. oh and they will probably update the generics that are modeled now and not give an option to switch between the 2.
>>543385272
I wonder when we're getting more info. The DLC is out in just about 3 months now
>>543386438it's that dont care attitude why we got dw9e and koei blames the fans for the series almost dying and not themselves for putting out shit trash games and making the games they do make more and more gutted of cool things from prior. I wasnt upset and needed to chill out I just wrote my thoughts and went back to playing dynasty warriors 5 empires. now i'm annoyed you're assuming I wrote that upset or something and pulled that shitty condescending chill out crap. maybe if people stopped accepting bad games and called out bad things like koei blaming the fans we'd have less shit in the game industry. But hey you go assume im mad past at you for your condescending reply and im going to go back to beating everyone up in dw5e with ma su as ive cornered zhuge's province and im about to give him the ol execute for what he did to ol ma su back in the day.
>>543054028exiled to Loneliness and Regret Island for being on the losing side
all I want for Christmas is Jingzhou
>>543419693Clearly Shu propaganda. Why would somebody as paranoid as Cao Cao prefer used goods
Are we excited they chose to do Dynasty Warriors 3 with modern engines and stuff to be released again or would we have preferred another game in the Dynasty Warriors series ?Also is it going to be dubbed ?>>543419693>>543421764 I think they got that a little messed up. He was said to have a thing for widows not married women.
>>543421764>I will erase their stain and overwrite it with my own
i want a WW1 musou or an american revolutionary war musou
>>543431354Why not a civil war one
>>543437459Only worth it for the John Brown hypothetical route.
>>543437459If only baba and yamagata charged into town and finished the job
>>543382942make fun of it one more time
>>543419693How did he get away with saying this?
>>543390169There's being cautious about the remastere and then there's getting doomer cynical and making up nonsensical crap like this >>543385272
sovl preserved
>>543230808Based, best wife is coming along nicely.
>>543426098It will be modern DW shit dressed as 3, why even bother
>>543462525
>>543474445Canon Xiaoqiao power level according to real and honest Chinese historians
good morning everyone
>>543485815Good morning. A great day, He Jin will purge the eunuchs and rebuild Han, any day now
Well, at least archers are still going to be fuckasseshttps://www.thegamer.com/dynasty-warriors-tomohiko-sho-tokyo-game-show-anniversasry-interview/
>>543489317>we've modernized the control elements
>>543490453That could be as little as "we got rid of the auto lock-on that nobody liked"
>>543489317>While the series has existed for 25 years now, there was a span of games, namely Dynasty Warriors 7 to Dynasty Warriors 9, in which Sho wasn’t creatively involved. Initially, he believed this would be easy to deal with, but he couldn’t have been more excited to come back.>“I wanted to do something different,” he tells me. “I thought that after I left, the Musou genre would end. I thought that I wouldn’t need the series anymore, and it would fade out. That wasn’t the case though, and there were lots of fans looking forward to the series continuing, so other members of the company carried the torch, and then I unexpectedly returned, something I didn’t expect to happen, but I’m very happy it did.”>During his absence, the series veteran expressed dissatisfaction with the series’ new direction. “It was a bit different from the direction that I was aiming for. There were no more tactical elements, and it became very weak,” he recalls. “I think it really focused on increasing [the number of] characters. And obviously, there are a lot of fans that do appreciate and do like that direction, so I'm not saying anything bad about that, but it's just different than what my initial vision was.”Damn, he knows how to butter me up.
>>543490453Obviously talking about being to move the camera freely and attack freely in any direction like the later games, both of which would be objectively good changes.>>543491057kek that's a low-key "get fucked" to all the secondaries who claim DW is all about the "big roster" and nothing else matters to them. Sure it's nice to have a good selection of warriors, but the tactical battles is really what the games are about and it's good to see Sho dragging it back on track with Origins.
>>543489317If the goal is to do remasters of DW3-6 to get them on modern platforms, I'm extremely on how 6 would be updated since Sho is opened about its mixed reception
>>543493884extremely curious*
>>543493884Yeah, like you change what everyone disliked about DW6 and the game ceases to be DW6 since there's so many parts that repelled people.
>>543489317I get terrified when I see anything that says “modernized” because I always think of>My FUCKING ambition cannot be FUCKING stopped!
>>543494439You FUCKING idiots! Take this!
>>543494829Mmm... FUCK!
>>543494363At least one that he'll probably change is the Renbu Gauge decreasing out of combat, which he admits was a mistakehttps://twitter.com/koeilau/status/1821122559666184408
>>543491057hmm... that sounds promising. i'll continue to watch and see how it plays out.
>>543489317They speak well, but the trailers didn't give me much hope.
>>543491875that would be a nice change.
>>543495192I shall expect good fucking things
>>543500283I wish they asked more specific questions about the remaster because I feel the same way
>>543523964Hmm.. this is fucking stupid!
>Zhou Yu: Though I may die from my rage making me shit a nonstop stream of blood, I can at least say I put the Two Kingdoms strategy into motion >Zhuge Liang: you mean Three Kingdoms >Zhou Yu: what>Zhuge Liang: what
Was historical Wei better or worse than fictional Wei?
>>543556310Better in what way?
>>543556310fictional Wei would have seen the world achieve world peace, flying cars and the cure to cancer
Let's go Family Guy does Dynasty Warriors off free kingdoms jokes. Does anyone have Peter Grafton dressed up as Cao Cao?I seem to lost my image.
>>543575515>the speaking Italian scene but it's just Pei Tur saying BENEVOLENCE to an increasingly frustrated Liu Zhang
>>543573924But ONLY if Cao Ang succeeded his father
>>543495238Didn't 6E change it so it was bound to your weapon? That'd be a fairly easy change to make
https://twitter.com/s_sangokumusou/status/1979110132773540201>KoeiTecmo actually translated the Accolades trailer into Japanese because of how rare it is for Westerners to praise a DW gameProud of them.
it's interesting just sitting and helping some generic officer take camps in dw9 in a battle scenario.
>>543565370Any way you can think of. Capable, moral, etc.
Been playing dw9 all night grinding out people and taking officers to other forces or era's they were dead.
>DW5E in japanese>activate tactic while playing as XiaoqiaoGets me every time. https://vocaroo.com/1mXS6ULi9d5O
>>543631636>https://vocaroo.com/1mXS6ULi9d5OXiao Qiao is great. I am in a grind to max her in dw3/xl, dw4/xl, dw5/xl, and since im playing it also in dw9 (coming along well and up to level 33 now). On the side I am playing as Guan Yinping (level 53). in liu bei's first scenario the yellow turban to team up with dead decades before being born. funny thing is guan, zhang, liu all follow her everyway so I have this group and some troops following her all over. So I started to go around taking out bandit camps (orange color) and having those 3 and some troops back me up before the story moves into the next chapter.
>DSP narrates the DW7 intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Yh96wZGvU&t=50s
>>543634653> im playing it also in dw9Must be extremely jarring going from PS2 games straight into fucking 9.That aside, DW definitely has the best version of the Qiao sisters but also did fuck all with them in the plot, unfortunately.
>>543589631I’ve always tried to make scenarios where he lives and make a personality, quirks, friends for Ang but I always feel like I’m doing and assuming too much
>>543635756oh it is. I am enjoying the crap outta dw3xl and many fun things it offers (best bodyguards) than I go to dw9 open world and its oddness and vague empires mode with bases and some of its quirks and play. Xiao Qiao's voice in dw9 is just.... well its not the ps2 versions that's for sure. I prefer the ps2 versions desu but dw9 offers some fun and I can do some cool stuff sometimes in the game like take forts and towns and camps and stuff. and depending on what scenario you are in the various layouts and stuff and who you can and can't fight change. for example in the first segment of the nanman story you can only fight liu bei's forces but get to the 2nd and now you also have access to fight cao pi's. and add in bandit camps and places and you can get into some serious nanman all over the map fun. same with zhang jiao in his scenario and various others. and sadly dw 8 does fuckall with them and so I stick with dw3xl and dw4xl/5xl and 4e/5e. in empires its a thing I combo the sisters into their own force along with various other changes im making with factions based on games in rotk/dw and chatbots. so the qiao sisters in my dw universe left/never joined wu and only work with them as mercs haha.
>>543644141Never heard voices from DW9, does it even have dual audio or only japanese? If it's the latter then I can vaguely remember 8 voices.
>>543646436It has English voices, but they contracted it out to some studio that usually does English dubs of telenovelas. It sounds terrible as a result and not in a good way. Something definitely happened because both Zhao Yun and Dian Wei/Cao Ren's classic VAs from DW4-8 both said they were initially asked to reprise their roles, then Koei ghosted them after that
>>543646718>It sounds terrible as a result and not in a good way.I like how you have to specify that for DW because up to 3 it was also bad but the funny kind of bad.
>>543647248I would happily take every dw game in dw3/xl voice style over the last few versions of dw. dw9's are just... xiao qiao sounds like she's trying super hard to be kawaii 13 and not in that funny oh silly way either. she also does this kinda aweward laugh at times. also her lies with her husband can be a bit ...well sometimes it seems like koei wants to present her as utterly devoted and than he comes off a bit eh ok qiao.
>>543646718I remember seeing some youtuber comment that DW9's Lu Bu Hu Lao Gate intro is one of his best, because he doesn't talk at all in it and thus isn't subject to the player hearing DW9's voice casting
>>543655202kek I seen a recent youtube vid talking about how the series battle sim had changed and when he got to dw9 he was like "this game doesn't exist" and instantly moved onto Origins
>>543656561Got a link to that or remember the name?
>>543656561>>543656694Think I found it myselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdiDHuTUuVM
>>543661689I'm always torn in a way. On the one hand, I definitely prefer the PS2 era's style and feel a bit of relief that the PS3 era's change was due to the director actually not being there to keep it that way. On the other, DW7 being so cinematic really was an experience I liked and I don't know if you could do that with the way the games had been prior.
>>543664624DW7 is fine as a story-focused entry, but I'll never understand anyone recommending it as a starter game for the series. It's best played after you already know you enjoy the gameplay and are fine with an entry that focuses entirely on the story again.
>>543664624I did like watching DW7 cutscenes alright, but I can settle for something like DW5's musou mode where the character you pick narrates the side of the story they take part in from their PoV, if that meant bringing back the old battle engine or at very least something really close to it.The DW3 remaster trailer didn't really make a good impression imo, if it wasn't for Sho confirming he wants to bring back the tactical elements in(most likely means individual morale stars and ways for the player to act on it) I would have not given a flying fuck, as the only difference with 6-8 seemed to be slightly less busted range.
>>543661689This is a good video, sums up a lot of what we've discussed in /eagg/ over the months and I wouldn't be surprised if the creator posts here too given how small the western fanbase is. Only nitpick I have is that troop count isn't always finite, some officers have a select amount of infinitely respawning troops as long as there are gates for them to spawn from. The most obvious instance of this is Dong Zhuo's infinite reinforcements at the end of DW3 Hulao Gate making it an easy stage to get 1000 KOs on. It was definitely a less refined system compared to morale given how it's usually better for an officer to have no troops rather than a lot.
>>543670443I was thinking about that too. While it's true that you can eventually end troops for some officers, I don't think it's possible for the stage boss in specific until you close the checkpoints or the CPUs do it for you. He should have focused on how much the morale difference matters too, getting an unit to 8 stars, and assuming it's one of the officers programmed to advance most likely means they will be steamrolling everything off screen, excluding another enemy officer also at 8 stars. And opposite way around is also true: getting to 0 stars means that unit is dead as soon you leave them around an enemy while off screen, unless the enemy is also at 0 stars.
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>>543677887Let's just take a nap until they drop more footage of the DLC or Remaster, thread can be brought back when supplies are sent out and morale is up.
Chinese History | Was Liu Shan a Fool or the Smartest Man in the Room?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCSzyakoBhA&t=7s
>>543678530/eagg/ has survived for 400 threads, why not another 400?
>>543701481
>Prime Minister I will honor your memory by losing every engagement of my life
>>543678530Never surrender
>>543717735>son exterminates the Guan clanBASED
>>543717942A true warrior of the Two Kingdoms.
Butt
>>543732489Is Lu Bu using a magic staff?
>>543734235DW7/8/9 all are "every character can use every weapon" sorts of games.
Huffing a lot of hopium right now, but the 3 remaster page mentions bodyguard customization as one of the relevant features from the original 3XL.What's worrying is the first part about focusing on the 1v1000 stuff
>>543734235Yes. it's one of the perks/curses of the later games is it lets everyone use anyone's weapons. Its great if you wanna mix things up but it also has downsides to letting anyone use anything. I dont mind it honestly and its fun to run with another weapon but I know quite a few dislike that and want everyone rigidly stuck to 1 weapon only which im not again but I like freedom to goof off and thingsl ike guan yu and lu bu using the staff or fan is fun to mess with. Xiao Qiao with a decked out with gems lu bu halberd is a ton of fun to goof off with once you beat her musou mode. things like that.now if only the later games past dw5 had the dw3xl bodyguards in it as those are best bodyguards.
>>543757332welp I knew it was going to happen but there's my verification no new playable officers from later games nor playing as generics (both I knew wouldnt happen but there it confirmed. 40 characters only. too bad its getting modernized into numusou. lawn mowing and grass cutting as they call it in japan.hopefully they dont botch the musou modes and there isnt some3 lame clean the text up bs. bad enough its going to lose the awesome english voice overs done in cheese that adds to the games charm and its gona be a bunch of new voice over with possible changed lines and change a huge part of dw3xl and thats the cheese voiceovers.
>>543758562If it has bodyguard customization supposedly then it's already different enough from numusou. Also there was Sho talking about wanting to bring back the tactical elements from old games, most likely the morale system.
>>543723734Can I get this with less detailed textures please
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>>543548172Does anyone know where the retarded “two kingdoms” phrase to refer to Zhou Yu’s western strategy came from? It obviously can’t be historical and I don’t remember it from the novel, but I’m starting to see Reddit historians throw the phrase around as if it were.
>>543773007no idea but its mentioned in the later games a few times and there's a dw8e scenario you can get that has the 2 kingdoms a thing and liu bei's force in like 2 province in the far south or something. so maybe it started there? not sure but its getting annoying hearing it as fact much like the lie zhuge planned for failure and all this crap and just sucked at planning to improvise.
Now that the dust has settled, DW2 or DW6?
>>543789291>dw2 + mods>dw3xl with or without mods>dw6 for goofing off with on the ps2 version for a laugh
>>543770437Who butt is that?
>>543800810>>543723734
>>543773007I think Zhou Yu and others in Wu had the thought of subjecting Jing Province and Liu Zhang’s territories as they knew striking north at that time was a lost cause and to strengthen their power base but Liu Bei threw a wrench in that plan.
>>543806304lui bei and his delusions of destiny really did fuck over the whole thing and add in zhuge the asshole and that didnt help. lady mishi wouldnt have died at change ban while liu bei ran like a puss going on about muh destiny and I can have more kids and wives and the whole tossing his kid and going on about muh no other zhao yun muh have more kids bit. fuck him he's a shit and so is zhuge and bonus fuck guan yu and his honor while serving a lord who buys ladies for alliances. shu a shit and so is wu
>>543806304The topic isn’t about Zhou Yu’s strategy, the topic is what later idiot started calling it “two kingdoms” causing other idiots to start thinking it was a historical term when it cannot possibly have been.In any case, Zhou Yu’s plan wasn’t a planned division of the empire into two, it was still a grand strategy to unite the entire empire. The plan was to first unite the entire south first in order to be able to attack the north from the western front, believing an attack on the north from the eastern front only would not be successful. While it would also be ahistorical, a name like “first west then north” 先西後北 would still be more accurate than “two kingdoms.”
>>543635295What's next in store from Babymaker Games?
>>542673604Coming back days later to say I just realized that you can use this as a cancel before the aerial string to prevent a battle arts chain while still getting the string afterwards
>>543817753So that's what it's like to dress in 144p.
>>543817753DONG
Got Red Hare, Lu Bu's 4th. Maxed how I want him (Musou unraised except by his 4th). and now I am ready to send him to Novice/Beginner to crush all who stand in his way in the maps selected.
>>543875592But anon, big bar get bigger!
>>543876534Maxing musou is a double-edged sword. On one hand you can kill more troops or possibly inflict very high damage to an officer before you are done, but on the other hand it becomes less readily available as a "get out of prison" card so you have to play less aggressively.
>>543817753Angelic Dong Zhuo...
>>543876768I remember when I would grind character stats up I usually would go to Guan Yu's Escape because it was short and Arena played. I will probably have that stage's dub forever burned into my brain because of it.>Is THIS(voice crack) how you repay Lord CAO CAO?!
>>543895983kek that and wu territory were my goto. cao cao at wan castle also. guan yu's and wan castle for cao cao side both have music stuck in my head haha. part of my stages I still goto by default. I like the short quick stages
I like how much there is in Nobunaga’s Ambition SoI but I feel like they promote you far too quickly to actually develop your town before dumping a castle or a regency on you. It’s all a bit overwhelming.
>>543898756I struggle to think of a RotTK/NA that doesn't have this issue. In most RotTKs you can choose to start as a low ranking officer and after a few months of doing chores or one battle they want to make you a strategist or viceroy
>>543899082I wish I had more time develop my initial territory and get to know my fellow officers before having to have the weight of the world thrust on my shoulders. If there were a NA that was like ROTK x it would probably be GOTY for me
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>>543915053History repeats itself.
>>543915053Threads fated to live will live. Threads fated to die will die, all is as the heavens will it.
>>543927856So it has always been
>>543946890When is three kingdoms going to happen again then
>>543951010Already has a few times.
I wake up from a nap and we're on page 10. oof
>>543969714Quick Dian Wei, you must get our lord to safety!
some days I play dynasty warrior and rotk games all day and other days I sit and do other things.who are you currently working on and for what game/s?I started a fresh save so haven't really picked anyone offically but have been using Fu Xi for a few battles in dw3xl.
>>543987729I've been going between Sun Jian in DW3 and making level 7s in Origins
Went back to bed for a bit and woke up and its once again on page 10. another big oof.
It will be nice to play as Zhou Yu with a sword again in the remaster.
>>544020953again? just load up the ps2 or emulator of it and play him
he mad
>>544034021I wouldn't send XQ anywhere near The Dong
>>543998615I've been grinding out Zhu Rong the last time I played since I am going to play her musou and Meng Huo's to unlock their bodyguard types. (fresh save) and not that other guy who wiped his save). As someone who's dabbled with Sun Jian in dw3 a few times he's not bad. he doesnt stand out but he's got a few moves I like. I have maxed him a few times over the years. But than again ive also maxed everyone at some point and recently was working on upping Dong Zhuo's stats a bit. His 4th is going to be a bit annoying to get due to having to let so many die yet not get overwhelmed. Diao Chan's and Lu Bu's are going to be ez-pz to get.
>>544034829I ment Dong's 4th is going to be tiresome. Sun Jian's will be annoying only due to archers if it's on liu biao's stage.
Oh god
>>544019781We're in dire need of reinforcements
>>544055593It's ok we still got a bunch of subofficers stationed at... huh somewhere between the blue dots.
>>544057085Well Sima Yi is doing his part and captured us a small basecamp so we're still in it even if we lose our initial positions.
>DW3 Zhuge LiangWhat were they thinking, I literally can't hit officers unless we are 1v1.
>>544060678Well there we go. That should keep us in it for now.
>>544061249It could always be worse, you could be playing Zhurong.
>>544061778How did you predict my next musou mode attempt? It's Hard mode too, oh god oh fuck
>>544061915If you're doing it on a fresh Zhurong with no Free Mode grinding, I don't think even saying good luck will help. Chibi broke me, you need a miracle to beat it with how slowly you can kill anything. I feel vindicated watching Team Latinite's Very Hard playthrough of it with a maxed Zhurong and saying he thought it was close to impossible.
>>544062413>If you're doing it on a fresh Zhurong with no Free Mode grindingThat was the plan, not 100% fresh because I got items from the other musou modes but eh. Zhuge Liang here is already struggling at Chang Ban, even while trying to just let Liu Bei escape instead of actually beating Cow Cow
>>544062413going to add that as someone who uses her I dread using her in dw3/xl due to her moveset leaving her wide open and getting hit constantly and her musou and true musou are just not good due to that awkward stepping she does during it. if she stood still and did her musou like later games she'd be a bit easier to utilize. but man even maxed out with her best gear and weapon she eats it even on earlier diff due to her flaws. I usually play her musou on begginer or easy just due to that and I usually want to unlock the bodyguard amazon butt chicks.
>>544062805zhuge is just horrible. I tried using him recently with some good items and he just sucks. if you get a max reach item it helps but he just....sucks. I even tried him with ++99 reach and he's tolerable. and im not a fan of his odd moving musou either. wasnt the guy you were talking with and was this guy adding in on zhu rong and now my thoughts on zhuge. I am grinding out zhang jiao in dw3/xl and I find him easier ot use than zhu rong and he is another wide open gets hit alot type guy.
>>544063104>if you get a max reach item it helpsGot wind scroll but not maxed out, and the weapon is absolute ass. And it doesn't look like it will get better if I manage to get the 4th weapon either
>>544062941Doens't her musou in DW3 not even have piercing so it's just whoever's in front of her and nobody else?
yeah she doesnt and her stepping doesnt help as it's this awkward way leaving her not where you want in a sense. and its horrible to control. her true musou does better due to flames but still isnt good and thats due to that stepping. she leaves herself wide open often and her stats just honestly aren't that great either. she's a chore to max and use and it's a shame since ive a fan of her character in dw/rotk and other game sshe shows up in (same with meng huo). my other gripe is the later games lose the fun of the earlier versions and get more rawr we're gonna beat you up shu! and loses quite a bit of its fun since thats all it really covers with some wu and wei tossed in as a sort of optional (least how its done in dw9 and since that is sadly most recent thats where they are at story wise just some quick fights with shu and some optional fights on the side with wu and wei and some bandits).I prefer the dw3/xl version. and some of dw4/xl,dw5/xl stuff of them tossed in.
>>544065301Makes me wonder how much of DW3 infamously high difficulty was intentional compared to blatant oversights and just not testing some characters as much
I noticed the Xbox version of DW3 has an additional option for Japanese subtitles that the English PS2 version (including XL) doesn't have and it basically makes the game half English and half Japanese. All the menus and field names are still English, but all dialogue and battle notifications are Japanese. Weird way of doing it
>>544067782there's a ton of odd oversights or things unfinished in the game. start playing as generic officers and npc's and units and use a horse and watch how unfinished things are. Even Liu Bei I think only has up to 4 attacks on his horse while others have up to 6. and dig around outside of the stage and you find a few things here and there.
>>544061389Isn't this completely pointless to do anyways? The battles outside the missions have no impact on anything, and the missions only serve to have binary impacts on the final battle
>>544060678I don't know what it is, but DW9 just looks so dead in every screenshot.
>>544073718>it basically makes the game half English and half JapaneseNothing changed then. Character battle voices are japanese too even if you are playing with english voices.
>>544074859It is and isn't. it can help in the chapter/segment you're in and I just like taking bases (its exp and supplies and helps the overall morale. but ultimately it's pointless if you're being serious or rushing through the stories to unlock more stages/maps. it does have 2 minorly amusing factors in that if you are playing under zhang jiao or meng huo/zhu rong's forces and take a base it's their troops. So ive gone to the far corners and area's taking bases (including some odd ones placed connected to nothing in the woods and other spots) and now it has various YT or nanman around the map. which can factor in later in battle but again is ultimately more just show and a bit of morale and more troops moving around taking/attempting to take camps. (though I have seen troops/officers take camps/forts/castles/cities before but it's super rare). of note though is some camps/places you capture have merchants show up that offer slightly now common stuff and occasionally an officer or unit will offer a quest which helps morale and removes as unit and does a few things for the battle (adjusts some things I havent sorted out. so there is That and one of the perks of taking places and some of the units and officers it offers to fight also only show up in those missions which is interesting).>>544079391it truely is in many many ways and i'd say the games lost their soul after dw6 (which has an oddly tolerable but bad version on ps2) and I prefer dw2 - dw5xl/dw5E in regards to koei's 3 kingdoms games. but 9 lets me do a bunch of dumb things like run peasant missions all day, hunt and fish, explore, take on bandits and take camps and villages and buy and sell and merchant items and mmo hunt for resources in the wild for crafting and weapon upgrades. so I spend my time treating it more as an mmo 3 kingdoms world now that I have most of the stages unlocked and spend my time in the last chapter leveling everyone and getting high level items to goof off with in novice.
Spawns might need an adjustment.
>>544093656>Yeah, none of us are casting shadows>Also Dong Zhuo is back from the dead
>>544095750well in def of shadows I disabled them and a few other things due to my rig not being very good. but yes Dong is back and in the year 234 or something now. so it goes. grinding his levels up on ultimate as he's only at lvl 32 atm.
highest level i've seen so far on enemies.
>>544100286Nevermind. Wow.
>>543043647The future of the franchise.
>>544079584I said subtitles
>>544102572There's a giant lvl 99 tiger in somewhere the northern desert
>My ambition...
Over one hour and it still ends like this, jesus fucking christ.
>>544128490
Has Sho or anyone else from Koei ever talked about why they completely dropped any plans for an XL version of Samurai Warriors 5? I just want to know what's the future of SW.
>>544146693Did you die?
>>544168989Yes. Screwed up one of the officers you need to retreat, so I had to fight Cao Cao and Xiahou Dun by myself. Got one, nearly killed the other, but I got combo'd after the musou animation ends because it leaves you completely exposed if you aren't far enough.
>>544169164ah damn man that sucks. ive had that happen to me quite a few times over the years.
>>544093656this looks like it's from gmod
We must fight well
>>544169164Ah, my people. The people are the foundation of the country. I can't seem to protect them!
>>544179467It be like that
Also this counts as a cap taken 5 seconds before disaster. Had to restart right after it
>>544177220dw9 does not have the best graphics nor is it optimized. ive played gmods that look better.
>>544180168I need to get back to my Hard playthroughs, I think switching to the XL Other modes was a mistake because of how weird a lot of their stages are
>>544189229My problem is I dont really care to play most of the playable officers at this point in the games. ive been playing for a long time and adding in rotk and other stuff I know enough about most officers I just dont care for them much. I do like beating everyone up with lu bu and using xiao qiao and a few other chicks and I do take xu zhu and taishi ci out but for the most I just stick with modded setup and playing as generic officers or npc's like peasant or bandit or amazon and troops. though I do admit I have been enjoying using meng huo with true musou a bit lately also. but yeah for them ost I look at most of the playables and go meh been tthere done that maxed you a ton before.
Are there any mods I can download for Samurai Warriors 5 on PC to make it look less outdated
Deserved after the suffering at Chang Ban
>>544201810DW4 Nanman Campaign probably gets the most rage of any classic DW stage but I think DW3 Chibi deserves more shit for how easy it is for the stage to fall into a state where your entire allied army just stands still and you have to go after Cao Cao alone
>>544203005The actual bullshit stages in DW3 are Yi Ling and Wu Zhang Plains, and they are right after Chibi for Zhuge.Oh god why.
>>544203005>>544203118I love the army advance mod but holy shit that can also break stages hard AF. but man if you like me get sick of your allies are sitting doing fuckall for 50 minutes like I do than yeah its a fun mod. the downside is it throws maps like wu territory and other smallers and any stage really into chaos with so many advancing and moving forward and not sitting long. this includes rulers who get right into the main front lines and can end up dead easily *coughliuyongcough*. I still to this day don't get why the games were mad and still are in some ways with this odd allies sit with a dildo up their butt for 50 minutes approach koei thinks we want or need. but than again koei thinks turning the game into lawn mowing and removing best bodyguards in dw3xl forward were winning choices. but thats why the series has got so shit over time is koei and their koei being koei with choices and removing cool shit to replace it with substandard crap. even removing elements and stuff like lightning for a few games is just more koei stupid. and it ties into that retard japan mindset of obsessing over grind and adding unneeded bs to the games because japan has small pp and think grinding and forcing yourself to not have fun in games makes their lil pp big pp. its annoying.
>>544203962>but man if you like me get sick of your allies are sitting doing fuckall for 50 minutes I know right.
Seriously though, not even 1 minute in and I just got like 5 notifications of Shu officers struggling.The fuck are you even going to do with a slowass character.
>>544203962DW3 is particularly anal about only letting the front unit advance for each force. I believe the newer games dramatically reduced the delay between their defeat and having the unit in the back finally march forward.
>>544204548Just let the fire attack happen, pick one officer on the front line and ensure they survive. They'll be your meatshields for archers and then you can spend 60 minutes slowly clearing the stage
>>544208971You say as if there's a choice given the character in question. Nigga can't even kill the buffed up officers without the "guard and wait for musou to fill at red health" strat.
Thread isn't dead but if a slopposter is trying to get attention it might as well be.
>>544222985waaah waaaaah waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. cry moar nerd.
>>544146693You reminded me I had a video saved of finally beating Yiling, and I think it was only because Zhao Yun's an existing officer so I could rely on having troops on the map at max morale to do something.
>>544233245>Everyone dead before 3:30This stage is ridiculous. It's great.
We can't hold...
>>544233245I like how at 44' they make sure to take that checkpoint on the left just to rub it in.>>544243409With 3 the game is tightly designed around Normal, if you switch to Easy the level plays itself, and if you switch to Hard some maps would require both a maxed out and very fast character for you to save your allies, as soon one unit is defeated the enemies get a morale boost and some will already be at 8 stars after that, resulting in everyone else dying even faster like what happened at Yiling.It's also important to point out that the snowballing only happens in one direction on Hard/Very Hard, although on Normal it's possible to make it happen for the enemies as well.It's one of the many reasons for why I prefer DW5, regardless of difficulty there's no snowballing as soon one of your officers die, and getting KOs affects every unit so it's about figuring the biggest threats, decide which officers to clip immediately and which can be controlled by killing their troops, and even on Chaos everyone might survive. More importantly they will actually engage the enemy units instead of sitting on their ass so it's never pointless to play the morale game.
>>544233245lmao at this frame3 ally units out of 4 left(not counting Zhao Yun who's the playable character) about to die at the same time, two of them still at default 4 stars not even 1 star or anything that would justify dropping so quickly, and this is happening 2 minutes in the stage despite the player going out of his way to stop the fire attack. Makes you wonder why the fuck Wu even needs to burn your shit at all, seeing how quickly they can decimate Shu either way.
Alright giving up non-maxed out Zhuge at Yiling. Only ever managed to single out Lu Meng or Gan Ning then slowly kill them, but it takes so much time that I can barely do anything else afterwards.And I'm down in a few hits so I have to play extremely safe with a character who cannot hit shit.
>>544270630zhuge is the worst in the game and is ranked last overall. he's shit and has shit range and the only thing he has in his favor is his high bow def. otherwise he's complete ass. I refuse to use him and will mod an npc or generic officer in to play as instead of using him.
>>544272619I will clear it on hard but I should at least max out stats before attempting the last two stages.
>>544272892good luck. I beat zhuge's musou on hard a looooooong time ago and I will NEVER do it again. EVER. I will replace him with a peasant or private spearman to play as before I play him again or on hard as him. playing his musou as a peasant will be easier than that shit moveset zhuge has. hell the peasant moveset is slow AF and not good but his musou alone makes him 10 ranks above zhuge in use.
>>544273757I can imagine even that would be more playable.I already miss my girl Xiaoqiao steamrolling her hard mode like it's fucking nothing and casually dropping the 4th weapon on first attempt.
>>544275124going to get her 4th today or tomorrow. been mostly fucking around with npc and generics and building officers up doing that. Right now I have been powering up Zhu Rong using a Gate Captain (which can have the perks of being an uncloseable gate in battle) since I find her very not good in dw3/xl overall. I just had a conversation about her last night and her flaws. I think her moveset and how it's setup and her awkward stepping musou and lack of piercing during it makes her very not good overall. her stats arent even that good and she leaves herself wide open during quite a few attacks. I actually find her harder to use maxed than Xiao Qiao (without death element) and I actually enjoy using that quirky xiao qiao and her flawed moveset. Zhu Rong though I do not. Zhang Jiao is another along with Pang Tong that have movesets I dont care much for. Pang Tongs musou is super powerful but his moveset eh...Some officers are just not very good in dw3/xl and dont get good until 4 or later.
Where's my Warriors Abyss update?
>>544260432That was just part of my desperate scramble to find health while trying to break through the wall of archers Sun Ce had.
>>544286203Whenever I play Yiling I just snipe the fuck out of the enemy boss, I'm not dealing with the literal bullet hell section only to approach him at all.
>>544286563I remember finding a slope and settling in for trench warfare against all the crossbowmen Sun Quan had in his camp
>>544286563>>544293514it amuses me more than it should a bunch of us get all warfare on his archers or snipe him from afar. ive played this game for a long ass time and there's some stages I just wont get suckered into it's bs over or i'll be waiting for some jerk to spawn at a spot (zhu ran im looking directly at you) and other things. and ive added in mods and other fun making it even more chaos with things like army advance.
It takes longer than it should for sun ce and the officer cutscene at wu territory in dw3xl to kick off.
>when https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0KnhINs8Hk finally starts playing in WZPNever been happier to hear itI got Zhuge's 4th
BAAAAAOOO
dong zhuo if he was just chill........................................................... bong zhuo........................................................................................................................................................... lol
>>544297171Finally did it.One neat thing about playing Zhuge Liang is that you can raise his troops morale to 8 stars and they will wall Wu officers pursuing Liu Bei in the maze. They took so long I could actually kill Sun Quan proper, not even sniping because lol not enough arrows.
Done. Now Xiao Qiao has reached the next level of power. Now to max her health,atk,def and unleash her on the game in the various difficulty and play through her musou to unlock alternate force colors for all of wu.
Do you think I'd respond... to all of your taunts!?
RofTK XI multiplayer guy here. Update: well Meng Huoa forces lost Xaing Jing To another costal Bombardment preventing me from occupying the city after Gonsung Zan moved calvery and supplies Into the city Cao Cao and some of his best officers hoped over and sat on the city now I am try for Meng Huaos desperate counter attack but it dose not look like I have the umph behind it and Cao Cao can trick anyone just about. On the Northern Front I thwarted Lu Bu and friends attack on Zi Tong thru the narrow plank way using the hax of two Divine Potency (Zhung Liang and the unlockable one) Pang Tong, Guan Yu, And two Blacj Magic users (The unlock able one and one other) that made Lu Bu give up for now. I have turned Cheng Du and the surrounding cities into a fortress in preparation for my last stand, but I worry this current offense will leave me with so little troops that I will be unable to even make use of the built defenses, this game has taught me that defenses structures on costal towns are worthless. Re evaluation is needed another day. In the East at Chang Sha I marched thro the hills and swamps to the enemy city but his troops was concentrated and pushed thru and are on a counter march. Finally: my sneak offesince that snuck across the river to relieve pressure from the assault was surrounded and routed. Over 30k men. I have spent so much effort on my last line of defense but I dont know if its even worth it. Should I just turn around perserve troop numbers and re deploy with only 6 cities left? Should I just quit and wait till we are ready for a rematch?
10x10
>>544342289Self reply, the true path probably is to fight back best as I can while securing a retreat route from the areas, unless I resign, my worry is losing more TP a turn then I gain else wise my last ditch defense will be too pathetic.
>>544349964I dont play so I can't really add any advice except my single player experiences in the games. Your plan sounds like a good one to go with to be honest. ive done that in many single player games when things got a bit crazy with different forces and pulled back/out. needs a solid enough strategy on paper.
>>544351890Yeah it sounds good, the bad thing is Jaing Ling is a linch pin that will cut me off from 3 other cities all in that south cup meaning once I do this I go from 11 cities to 6.
>>544330420It's awkward but that the death is on her multihit buzzsaw c6 is one of those "oh they knew what they were doing" things of DW3. Just shred those health bars.
>>544359039indeed. they knew those that took the time to learn her moveset flaws and all THAN get her death element are going to be very happy with being able to use her. she's very fun to use with and more so with death element. I also got cao cao's 4th earlier and it was way easier than I realized it was going to be. I thought id' be at chi bi. nah yellow turban and some running around and keeping an eye on he jin. ez pz.
Does anyone know if Advanced difficulty in RotK X affects everyone, ally and enemy, or if it's just your enemies
Soon...
>>544359039>>544330420Wanna do something funny with that? Load the infamous Yiling stage, Shu side, and see how fast you can beat Lu Meng, Gan Ning and Lu Xun.Remember to stun with C3 first, otherwise officers will interrupt C6 with their musou and she will be the one taking a fuckton of damage.
>>544180168>>544180625>Playing as DW3 Zhuge Liang>disasterYeah that's a given.
>>544374609You tell me. I had to max him out to progress past Yiling on Hard difficulty, and I'm not sure it helped much seeing the winning strat was to kill Sun Quan while everyone else is busy chasing Liu Bei. If anything the 4th weapon helped because bow defense. Also now I'm confident enough for WZP when it shows up in musou mode because I could already beat it before Yiling in free mode, it's not that bullshit comparatively.
>all the Qiaos post are about Xiao>most the art is also XiaoWhy the older one never gets as much love?
>>544386074Boring personality, unfun moveset where her only tech(pre-DW5) is about piercing through crowds with C4 or doing a 360 with the last hits of the normal string. A bit too oldXiaoqiao is actually fun to use, be it gameplay-wise or cute&funny factor.
>>544386074>>544388586Getting unpersoned in DW6 certainly didn't help, especially since Xiao was still there.
>>544389867DW6 was a mistake. She might not be as popular but didn't deserve it, what she deserved was a more unique moveset and she finally got that in 7, but not without taking it away from Xiaoqiao until 8 (as DLC) and Empries instead
Finished Zhao Yun's musou mode in DW6. Windows 11 seems to have broken the game further as it's automatically skipping all cutscenes for me, though I haven't tested if any compatibility modes fix that.I see what people mean by the battlefield elements being more immersive than the other games, and I'm sure it was more impressive at the time, but it still felt more more distant from the PS2 games than I would have thought. Ally babysitting felt very prevalent even on Normal and while the battles weren't as heavily scripted as later games, they felt pretty brief. That fictional final Battle of Hanzhong battle just felt like a small skirmish that ended the entire war.I'm not surprised they dialed back on the more varied terrain heights after this. I felt like almost every map I played had an easy way to get yourself stuck in an empty area that you needed to spend 2-3 minutes running to get out of, which combined with renbu decay felt terrible.I can see all the ways its ideas were carried on into Origins, which obviously benefits from higher budget and console specs, but I'd still only put this above DW9 and DW2.
>>544397951>but I'd still only put this above DW9 and DW2.I feel sorry for DW2 now
>>5443980902's problem is less with the game itself per se and more just the lack of content and funny voice acting. 6 has slightly more novelty since it doesn't have a direct sequel that almost obsoletes the original game. I've driven myself crazy enough seeing 3 Hulao Gate, Chibi, and Hefei over and over, I don't want to start hating 2 YTR and Hulao Gate.
>>5443901276 already had blatant moveset clones, so I don't understand why they didn't just include Da with a clone of Xiao's moveset. Xiao is a weird anomaly in 6; she was the only female character with a unique moveset prior to 6S and the lameass bladebow, but then didn't get a story mode.
>>544399230To be fair, I don't think anyone understands why 6 did literally anything it did.3->4->5 feels a completely natural evolution, not always a straight upgrade, but it's clearly building up on the previous games. Then 6 happens and everything feels like a complete regression.
>>544398090>>5443983582's biggest problem is a combination of being early PS2 experimentation and that DW3 comes over and basically takes everything in the game and just says "what if we refined this". The only thing DW2 can really call its own are some of the maps, and some designs that are just different enough to be annoying that they didn't include them as a costume DLC option in 7 and 8.
>>544400208The impression I've always had was that Koei wanted to 'reinvent' DW for the next generation of consoles, hence all the new mechanics, and the drastic changes to character design and weapon allocation. But there were more misses than hits, and rather than figure out what worked and what didn't, they retreated back to PS2 era gameplay, but with a bigger emphasis on story, and heavily scripted stages to accommodate that.
>>544401828Issue with that line of thinking is that you can't "reinvent" your audience.If you make a game that feels like a downgrade under multiple aspects, you WILL get the people who have played the previous titles to complain about it. And if your game has "6" in the title, you are already less likely to get people playing it as their their first.
>>544401828It was fun to watch the designs backpedal each game.
>>544372529>>544330420DW3 Xiaoqiao is DISGUSTINGLY OVERPOWERED and I'm tired of pretending she is supposed to be bad.As a funny experiment, I went to You Ting on very hard and threw myself into Sima Yi main camp. Held circle for a few minutes to kill the troops with the musou refilling every second, then 1v1'd him and yeah that's it. Stage over before any of the other officers could do fuck all, nearly no damage if it wasn't for the archers.
>>544386074I could write up a 50 line reply in autism but it comes down to I picked up using Xiao because she was ranked so low in the ranking lists and I saw her moveset crapped on often especially in dw3xl (which is my main goto game I play 5x more than the 2,4,5,6 on ps2). And so the short version is I saw her ranked so low and being shit on in old guides and stuff and basically went aww poor xiao gets no love and started using her and maxing her out and making her one of the greatest warriors/tacticians in the dw/empire games. I used to use Da over Xiao and part of it used to be Xiao's moveset. But that was a long time ago and now that i'm back into the ps2 games I took up Xiao and Diao Chan (for other reasons). Personally I wish dw3/xl had all the later females added and more from the rotk games that arent in dw yet. I want to take everyone on with Pang E dammit.
>>544414175That's what I am saying. everyone back in the day was oh she sucks her musou sucks and her moveset sucks and she's at best #37 (whatever the rank was) and yet I play her and I demolish everyone. gimme her musou for 40 seconds and a 2x axe just prior and watch me decimate a whole section of troops and probably an officer or 3 if a few are there. hell I can somewhat consistantly get 15 hit combos with her on people and have done 24+ a few times. sure she can be difficulty to use on occasion and depending on battle and whats going on (officers and troops poking you from behind) but I think she's super overpowered once you get her going and built up and thats without her death element yet. Everyone goes on about cao cao being #1 and I dont argue that but I just personally dont think Xiao is #37 or whatever the old guides had her ranked. >>544389867i've barely explored dw6 on ps2 so what do you mean she was unpersoned? is she not in the game? I noticed she's not in a few of the psp games I am messing with also.
>>544414901>>544415524Old guides are weird. It's not like it's hard to do this either.Also DW6 does not have Daqiao indeed, only Xiaoqiao.
>>544420106laughed at Sima Yi absolutely shitting himself at 4:30
>>544420106yeah the old guides while decent are very....well they aren't always right about some of the characters and they had different views 20years ago on the old games. I laughed when sima tried to run away and you persued and ended his ass. kek. Thats exactly what Xiao is capable of and quite a few are under the impression she can't and sucks due to old guides and videos and people really not using her much or properly. She's my 2nd highest level in dw9 and she's a beast with her weapons and others. Jesus she's terrifying going all out with Lu Bu's halberd since ive upgraded her and his and a few other weaposn with gems and power. However her voice in dw9 is a bit uh...not the biggest fan and prefer her ps2 voices over it. but yeah she's an absolute beast in dw9 at level 83 and decimates lu bu in all diifculty except musou (which is considered a bs difficulty to play on seriuosly due to health stacks and other crap koei injected). She's terrifying and ive run completely over entire forces taking all their territory with her on ultimate difficulty in dw9 using her weapon and being high leveled. Wang Yun is at level 100 and is the only person in my dw9 world stronger than her. Lu Bu is a few levels behind her and he for whatever reason doesnt hit at hard as she does with her musou and her using his upgraded weapon. No idea why but she's just a monster in battle.
>>544420830>does it again at 6:30My man cannot handle the buzzsaw loli
>>544420830>>544421559That's not a behavior I see often actually, unless the CPU wants to return to its home location.
I am going to play dw3xl for a bit. Not sure who I want to work on or play as. Maybe Meng Huo? I haven't touched any officer in the shu force or wei force yet either. Maybe i'll take out and work on Xiahou Dun.
>>544434619Xiahou Dun is cool yes, but Meng Huo too, that's a hard choice.
This is weeks old but they did a little Q&A around the beginning of the series on Twitter for questions they missed at TGS>the Easter egg of Xu Zhu swinging his club around if placed in the Nanman section of the DW3 opening edit was done by the cutscene director on his own time rather than planned, Sho also hinted the opening edit feature will return in the remaster as he considers it an iconic part of the game>when making DW2, there were originally no plans for the kingdoms to be color-coded, however Kou Shibusawa's wife suggested they do it. Sho was mixed on making Shu's color green as he felt Zhang Fei was very associated with red, and insisted on keeping some elements of it in his design
>>544437467I know the colors for the main forces are RGB, but makes me wonder why they went green for Shu, blue for Wei and red for Wu specifically
>>544434720I ended up picking up Meng Huo and playing as him. I wanted to just smash the ground and take out officers for a bit. I will rotate into xiahou dun shortly but for now im having fun with meng huo and his moveset. even got a 3rd weapon in my 4th stage I ran with him so he's doing good now.
I Left My Heart in Runan
When I drink a beer I sometimes in my head go “hǎo hǎo hǎo, hǎo jiǔ“
Hmm, another army...
And so it begins finally.
Thinking about starting over but not sure as who. I have lu bu max level 150 and so I want to work on someone else and putz around in ambition mode and not upgrading and unlocking stuff for a bit and just grinding and upgrading weapons and levels. I was debating playing as Zhang Jiao or maybe Diao Chan but I also thought maybe playing as Taishi Ci or Dian Wei would be fun also.
We will not fall today
>three sworn brothers all directly fighting against Lu Bu at Hu Lao Gate in DW3>no cutsceneWhat triggers this then?
snooze time. many characters grinded out in the dw games today.
>The time of the Blue Dragon is over!
>>544483061Dunno, it always triggered to me if Liu Bei and his bros were anywhere around Lu Bu
>>542543220The stage is an absolute nightmare and came out from the deepest and darkest depths of hell only to torture every Shu player. However the song is good.
>>544422637Sima Yi PoVhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/GEmYPdObadQ
I wake up from my snooze and we're on page 10.
>>544517194Same
We will be dropping to 0 stars morale soon
>>544530137Hmph, pathetic.
With all the remixed songs and Masa being gone I wasn't expecting much from the Origins soundtrack but I think it might be one of the best in the series
>>544534093Not even the mighty Lu Bu can survive his troops getting plowed through in seconds and multiple officers coming in for the kill, all at 8 stars.
>>544545146kek nope he can't. he's not as grand as he's made out to be but he's fun to wipe maps with. using him in dw8e at the moment and got a comrade and I just grabbed them so I could raid with lu bu. I raided dong zhuo so much yuan shu just strolled in with a small force and took over. just sat down and started running the city after a cute lil skirmish with dong's remaining troops and force I hadnt wiped in my raids.
kek I love the officer replace option in dw8e. welp time to beat up cao cao in 2011 with Lu Bu who actually DIDNT die and was uh taking a nap all these years. yeah that's it he was taking a nap. welp off to play as Lu Bu in 2011 now.
The Origins DLC is out in less than 3 months..... news any day now............
>>544558656She says that but she's doesn't even know what's a "supply base"
>>544558810That's obvious, it's the base that knows how to fight even though you think they can't.
For all the DW3 meme line compilations none of them include all the goofy shit said when you play on the generics' side in battles like Assault on the Wu Territory or Surprise Attack on Liu Biao
oh god.... I finally played meng huo in dw8xl. holy shit this guy is just a beast. fun AF to play as with those gauntlets also.
booooring
vomit
>>544453421Aren't we too far ahead?
We must not fall behind
>>544538649Remixing all of the old songs was a good call, because they blend together better with the new ones while still being distinct for the old fans who recognise the melodies.
I wish koei would include more songs from each game and XL addon.
>>544625436If they ever take Origins beyond Chibi (via DLC or a full sequel), I'm curious what the song choices would be.I reckon Tong Gate may get Heavy Gauge from 4, similar to how Conquest of Wu and Guan Yu's Escape got what were originally generic but very popular BGM from 3.No idea for Liu Bei's campaign for Chengdu.Great Red Spirit is practically a shoo-in for Hefei, but apparently Cyclonized Typhoon from 8 was also very popular.Fan Castle will probably be Large Feather, Epic Man, or Solo.Not sure for Mt Ding Jun or Yiling.
Abyss poll results, top 4 characters will be addedhttps://twitter.com/koeitecmoeurope/status/1983821176607543565
>>544631840Wen Yang bros...
>>544631840>Ma Dai in JP 7th placeWHAT THE FUCK MAN HOLY SHIT KOEI YOU DESERVE NO MORE MONEY FROM ME IF HE DOESN'T GET ADDED FUCKING HELL
>>544629982Origins sequel was confirmed at TGS. We have no confirmed info beyond that, but based on what Sho has said we can assume it will probably go up to Wuzhang Plains as Sho doesn't like Jin, and Ziluan will probably be replaced with a character creator as Sho has talked about that as well.
>>544631840>Lianshi-anon's campaign worked and she was the most requested from the West
>>544633262>Ziluan will probably be replaced with a character creator as Sho has talked about that as wellI wonder if they'll repeat what Nioh 2 did and have Ziluan show up as a boss somehow.
snooze time. I got quite a bit of officer editing done in dw8e.
