Lace editionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completion.info/Old:>>/vg/541545637
tools were a mistake
>>541779447Should use https://silksong-completionist.com/ for the OP.Unlike the .info one, the .com one still lets you see everything even if you have it already.
>>541779447You messed up>>541545637
>>541759065>One yellow slot is mandatory for CompassI don't think i ever used the compass once. I only bought it just to get the Shakra wish
So I just beat the final boss & I'm obviously missing a lotany hints or do I just have to look at some full on walkthroughI think the only areas that don't feel complete are the slab (need a key I haven't found yet), sewers (I think I needed either the doublejump or the grapple to continue) and the mist area where I tried out some stuff but couldn't figure out how to progress.Still missing Witch and Shaman crests and have no idea where to get crustnut or pickled muckmaggots
>>541784474Sands for the crustnut and a certain fly chef has your maggots. If you beat it normally and you became weaver quinn go ahead and clear up the rest of the areas youre missing and do the quest at first chapel to get to act 3. Oh and enjoy the maggot infestation cause i have a feeling thats where youre heading
>>541784474Mist area, try your needolinTry looking around the area of the Pinstress in Blasted StepsExplore the Whispering Vaults moreIf you rescued the merchant lady, try going more right from where you rescued her
>>541784474explore the vaults some more, there's a hidden path leading to a new areasame for memorium, but in that case a quest leads you to it
>>541784474you have unexplored areas you can reach with doublejump, also you have to complete nearly all quest boards to unlock act 3
>>541785240>Mist area, try your needolinfuck, I only ever used it to listen to NPCs so I didn't imagine it'd be used for anything else>Try looking around the area of the Pinstress in Blasted StepsAh alright, I figured it'd be a "OH NO I SHOULDN'T LEAVE" point like below it>If you rescued the merchant lady, try going more right from where you rescued herI don't think I found any merchant ladies needing rescue, I do just remember I rescued some green prince motherfucker that just vanished, surprised you can just never encounter him again before beating the game.Ahh, just went back to citadel job board & there's the quest for it>>541785356>also you have to complete nearly all quest boards to unlock act 3I think I've done every quest on the boards, the only quest I still have is the one with delicaciesWelp, just checked the citadel board & there's 2 new ones, also the bugrider is here now.>>541785293>explore the vaults some more, there's a hidden path leading to a new area>>541785110>If you beat it normally and you became weaver quinnno clue what this means, I assume that's what happened.>Oh and enjoy the maggot infestation cause i have a feeling thats where youre headingI feel like I already did most of it really early, but there's always more maggots to enjoy. I think I remember reading there's an item that makes it less cancerous but I still haven't found it so I'm shit outta luck there
>>541776169Termite mound partially connected to the tree, part of the tree is dead. Big hornet's nest in one of the branches.
>>541786389>I think I remember reading there's an item that makes it less cancerous but I still haven't found it so I'm shit outta luck thereIf you want to find that sooner rather than later, explore the memorium like the other anon said, were you rescue the mechant
okay but real talk gangWhat species is Shakra? Prevailing theory is that she's a wasp/hornet
>>541786838Alright, I'll go knock around there before doing the other stuff thenOr will that immediately put me in act 3 & cause me to miss shit like someone was talking about last thread? I still haven't fought bugrider or mapwoman. I've honestly only seen mapwoman once since act 2, in mount fay
>>541784474Do all the wishes on various wishboards in towns, also do a wish of Halfway Home's owner. It's required, and one of them leads to a new area. Buy all the maps from Shakra, it's required.All the missing map areas are accessible if you have double jump. Go there and do stuff. If you want further hints, there's an entrance to a new area in Whispering Vaults. There's also an item for a start of a Witch Crest quest near the entrance.You're missing area above Blasted Steps. Look out for harpoon rings near the place where you got charged attack.Did you free the green prince? Freeing is not enough, you have to meet him a couple times in the Citadel, too. Technically not required, but you'll miss an entire area if you don't do this.You're likely missing an optional area between Greymoor, Bellhart and Underworks. Entrance is in Greymoor, breakable ceiling.For navigating The Mist needolin is required. The first room is a hint which does not require needolin, but subsequent rooms require it. (Use Needolin near Lumaflies, follow them to an exit of a room)After all that, the priest guy in Songclave will call out to you. Talk to him.
>>541787374you won't accidentally trigger act 3, it's pretty obvious when you get to that point, the mapwoman encounter requires you to buy all her maps first, the other, idk myself how to trigger that
>>541787423>you have to meet him a couple times in the Citadel, too. Technically not required, but you'll miss an entire area if you don't do this.I'm not sure but I think I freed him before citadel or right after getting the ability to leave it for the first time. How the FUCK did I not run into him a single time?>Use Needolin near Lumafliesdamn I was so close to understanding it, I was leaving through exits that had the most lumaflies near them or following the packs of lumaflies but neither seemed to amount to anything>you won't accidentally trigger act 3, it's pretty obvious when you get to that pointalright, good to know
>>541787374You get into Act 3 by completing a quest from the priest guy and then choosing another option after beating Grand Mother Silk.Garmond&Zaza Duel and Shakra Duel are missable. Look up how to initiate them after doing everything else in the Act 2. Act 3 area from Green Prince guy is also missable, you need to do Act 2 stuff with him.
The fuck is wrong with steam man.
>>541788049>damn I was so close to understanding it,Sorry, I thought I put text inside parentheses in spoiler tags.
every time I see HK screenshots I notice how much more detail they gave to scenery in SS
>>541788682I felt like this was the case just playing through silksong, I don't remember the foreground & background being nearly this detailed>>541788673it's fine someone else already mentioned it plus I'd likely just have kept looking for a hint/item that allowed me to navigate it>Act 3 area from Green Prince guy is also missable, you need to do Act 2 stuff with him.alright I'll look into his page since I don't feel like blindly wandering through the entire citadel again looking for him
>>541788682I really noticed that too. They went all in with the details in Silksong. The game is incredibly pretty
is there no way to open this door in fungal wastes and connect it to the city of tears / crossroads?
>>541790421other side
In flea juggle do i get anything if i overperform in the highscores? cause feel juggle i just needed 30 and got 34 which i consider low. Is there a bigger prise if i go say 50?
>>541792154no
>>541792154NoThough don't go too far above the Flea record. you'll regret it later (unless you don't care about mementos)
Cogwork Dancers' theme song sounds like a waltz but it's actually in 4/4 time and I wonder if that was a deliberate decision to make it easier to subsconsciously follow the rhythm of the fightThey should have added a phase where the music shifts to a proper 3/4 waltz to fuck with people
Hm. Ignore previous posts. Serve King Khann. Fight for him or die.
>>541792631if its for the 100% i care about anything
New ship detected
>>541793671mementos aren't needed for 100%.That said, someone joins the flea festival later and they get really high scores. Like 50 or 55 in flea juggle. If you beat his scores, you get his memento.
>>541793671Unfortunately it's not. There's only 4 mementos that matter and that's because they're connected via achievements (completing the Hunter's journal doesn't matter to 100%)Only the Sprintmaster one matters for 100% because it gives you a mask shard and even then you just need to win 3 of his races. The 4th race gives you the memento
>>541793363My theory is it's intentional to create a sort of dissonant effect, where it's a waltz forced into common time like a soul forced into a mechanical body. I do think it'd be funny as fuck to shift it to waltz to fuck with people, though... God, maybe that could be a godseeker-esque change.
Lace being the final boss of the game is lame as fuck, it should have been a turbocharged voided up GMS
>>541794021shes bussy right now lilbro
It's not clear to me that GMS did anything wrong, at any point, willfully or consciously.
>>541794021Wait for DLC. Awakened Grandest Mother Silk is coming
>>541794458t. the Citadel
>>541794505silksong's godseeker is going to be hype as fuck
>>541794618Most of the bosses in basic Silksong could be the souped up Godmaster bosses in HK so I don't know how much crazier they can get
>>541794618I can't wait. Silksong is just so much fun to play that I'm actually looking forward to a Godhome DLC
>>541794618Hopefully there will be a bench after each boss. Otherwise I won't even try.
the sun growing wings > some big white ball of wilk glowing and screamingradiance had the perfect intro and they tried to do the same with gms and it didn't work
My memory is rusty. Was the amount and severity of runbacks in Hollow Knight better, worse, or the same as in Silksong? I only remember Radiance's runback which consisted of the final boss of another ending.
HK SS is completely doable without cheating and save quitting
>>541795097runbacks were generally much lighter, worst one was probably hive night?
The runback for God Tamer was quite long as I recall.
>>541794021>Lost Grand Mother Silk>>541794258Knights having fun with her
>>541795097I think it's a combination of factors, there were a few annoying runbacks, but, and I don't mean to bait but, legitimately, the 2 masks damage means that people statistically die more often in silksong while trying to learn the boss, which makes the runbacks a more frequent occurrence on first playthroughs, no, I'm not saying this was my experience, it may or may not have been, I'm pointing out a statistical, logical, fact rooted in reality, so, undeniable, and, not bait at all
rip bozo lmao
>>541795143I unironically used an invinicibility mod to skip the Karmelita gauntlet because doing it every time was pissing me off, but I turned off the mod for the actual boss fight so it doesn't count as cheating :)
>>541795902>the 2 masks damage means that people statistically die more often in silksongthey die more often and die quicker, which means you learn less of the fight
>>541796170could have just dumped all your tools during the gauntletBut then you'd have to, y'know, actually fight in the main event. Can't have that can we?
>>541796170I meant steel soul mode in the original hollow knight
I like how 95% of people complaining about this game's difficulty preface with "I'm a soulslike veteran and I love a hard game but"I bitch about this game too but I don't see how saying that I like Elden Ring contributes any substance to my complaints lmao
>>541796170>I unironically used an invinicibility mod to skip the Karmelita gauntletThat gauntlet is like 6 enemies total. It's barely a gauntlet
>>541796689I know, but flying enemies are annoying as fuck especially the two big lads at the end. And I got sick of doing it every time so I stopped doing it
>>541797025why do so many silksong players refuse to use the overpowered ability they have to handle flying enemies to handle flying enemies
>>541796667I consider myself a pretty dogshit gamer (bounced off of DS hard because I never liked the gamefeel) but I've never had issues with silksong's difficulty. Yes, you're constantly getting your balls busted; but it's never actually unfair or insurmountable
>>541797502Because I got to the point where I just wanted to be done with the fucking gauntlet as quick as possible so I could get to the real boss fight, so a mod that made me invincible and let me kill all the cunts in one hit was the answer. I know how to deal with those mobs, but I just didn't want to waste any more time with themI also considered using one of those save anywhere mods to make a sort of save state right after killing the last two dudes, but I thought that might be buggy or something
>>541797653>but it's never actually unfairThe trap bench in Bilewater is absolutely diabolical and 100% unfair, but at least it only happens once
>>541797502maybe because you eat contact damage half the time?
>>541797502I swear people are allergic to Clawline or something. It makes flying enemies a non-issue and it's great in combat in general
>>541797929tbf bilewater is meant to feel unfair and trollish like a souped up hunter's march or something, the bench was such a blatant fuck you on top of it all that I just ended up laughing at it
I somehow never saw the trap bench in shitwater lol, at least I don't remember it
>>5417794472v1 boss AND adds, who the fuck thought this was fun.
holy fuck since when were these cunts so tanky?
>>541800628I'm losing my mind against the deep docks 2v1
>>541800765nigga you're bitching about 72 seconds?
1 advantage the Knight has over HornetSmaller fucking hitbox
>>541800867Sometimes the spear on the ground explore when I hit it and sometimes it doesn't THE FUCK
>>541802000don't hit the spear and assume it's always going to explodeonce you get the other brother to 1v1, you can calm down and play defensively, he only has like two spear attacks, both of which can't hit you if you're careful
>>541790916how? its locked here too.
>>541802779Go around
>>541802837nigga what
>>541796667When I complained about difficulty of Deltarune ch3 secret boss*, I always mentioned that I was a Hollow Knight veteran, so it's a two-way road.*(I heard it's "easy" by Touhou standards, and Touhou itself is "easy" by danmaku standards. I shudder to think what's "normal", then)
>>541797502Because every time I tried to use it, I got damaged. So I gave up.>but muh i-framesThey're literal couple frames, I'm not TAS. Not comparable to Shade Cloak's 50+ i-frames.
>>541801986there's no fucking going on
>>541800867Honestly flying explodey dudes and burrowing giant dudes are harder than boss bros.
>youre trying to play some chill flea games and Grandmother Silk is orgasming again
>>541803821>chillThe whole festival have fatalistic anti-nihilist vibe
>>541803821Free her
>>541804374From life?
>>541804471YesStop having fun at the flea festival and fu- I mean save her daughter
Speaking of GMS, after the Act 3 ending, is she still alive? She was using most of her strength to protect Lace right? And this was because she could keep producing silk at a rate to protect Lace and herself. With Lace free now, can she just focus on coccooning herself with her own silk to stay alive for some long period of time? Like, go fetus pose, sleep mode, and just have an constant repairing cocoon of silk to protect her in the middle of the Abyss?
>Knight, a being of void, doesn't have gender>Hollow Knight, a being of void, doesn't have gender (but is a "son")>Phantom, a being of soul, doesn't have gender (but is a "sister")>Lace, a being of soul, have genderWhy Lace is an exception? Did GMS figure out a way to create a soul being which can reproduce sexually?
>>541805262She IS silk. With all silken void threads disintegrating, it can be pretty much confirmed that she is 100% dead.
>>541805319>>Phantom, a being of soul, doesn't have gender What do you mean, Phantom is a girl same as lace
>>541805736Hornet doesn't think so
>>541805464It's not really confirmed, it's just assumed. You can infer that she died in the same way that you can infer that someone has died if you watch them walk into a room and then hear screaming and see blood come splattering out of the room - but you can't actually prove that the person has died unless you go and directly observe, which is a liberty you are not afforded when it comes to a story if the author does not expressly allow it.
>>541805956To be fair, in fiction, even if you literally see someone being chopped in half (without a healing factor or anything like that), it doesn't guarantee that he won't show up later and say that he got "better"... Somehow.
will there be an hk3 or is this it?
>>541806867dlc
>>541806905allright. see you anons in 7 years
>>541807153All HK DLCs came out in duration of 2 years after release.
So anons, what's your most hated runback?So far, The Unravelled had me pulling out my hair the mostI absolutely fucking hate waiting for elevators
So how do we feel about them patching in this change to Verdania where the land starts to recover once you kill the prince?
>>541807249Not true. Hidden Dreams and The Grimm Troupe came out the same year as HKs initial release. Lifeblood and Godhome came out a year after release>Hollow Knight Release: February 2017>Hidden Dreams DLC: August 2017>The Grimm Troupe DLC: October 2017>Lifeblood DLC: April 2018>Godmaster DLC: August 2018Going off the HK release-Hidden Dreams DLC (and depending on how much TC has in the chamber considering they cut a lot in Silksong) expect the first DLC in the next 6-8 months
this has been so much easier than silksong SS modeI have yet to save and quit once because I was about to die
>>541807956Is this a fanart? Or real?
>>541807956Maybe they'll add more to the Wormways. Make things even worse and spreading farther
>>5418079561) Restoring Verdania is good2) But this contradicts other Old Hearts lore, which is bad
>>541805262She was down to her last dregs of silk by the time the Lost Lace fight happens. And then she gives those dregs to Hornet to supercharge her silk soar and you can see her disintegrating.Also the phase change includes her cocoon breaking down enough for waves of void spikes to become a stage hazard.
>>541808396 (me)3) Killing Green Prince now is in-character for Hornet, which is goodI hope this means we could double-kill Groal in DLC, which would clean-up the water from maggots
>>541808615>I hope this means we could double-kill Groal in DLC, which would clean-up the water from maggotsGroal isn't the source of the maggots. His whole thing is that he's giga-butthurt about his home being turned into Bilewater.
>wow last judge is rage inducing>no wait underworks is rage inducing>no, mount fay is actually the worst.It never gets better, does it?
>>541808718I never said he was. I said double-killing him with Elegy of the Deep would clean the water, which would make him a purifying force.
>>541790421It's messed up how the original HK looks so much more thematic than silksong. I've never once in silksong given a single shit about the scenery with only a few soundtracks entertaining me, all in act 2.
pretty nuts how easy double jump is to get in the original HK if you know where it is
>>541808803>>no wait underworks is rage inducingUnderworks wasn't bad at all, the worst part was falling in from whiteward before being done with whiteward & there not being a quick way out>>no, mount fay is actually the worst.what? mt fay was KINO
>>541808803For me it got better when I found out about Wanderer's DPS and Reaper's pogo, and got blue tools for healing and silk, and upgraded my nail, and got more masks.
So the courier's rasher: am I correct in assuming I can barely make it to citadel (and make all the insane climbs) if I clear out all enemies before I make the run?
>>541809149You should make it quite comfortably. Barely making it is for if you got smacked twice on the way.
>>541809229Sounds dubious to me but I might be taking a shitty route
>>541809137>Underworks wasn't bad at all,It wasn't awful but it used way too much darkness and I went there right after beating last judge so it felt like it interrupted the story to hammer in commie bugs in case I was thinking the citadel might not be so bad or something.
>>541793363Wiki says>The dance the Cogwork Dancers perform is a 3/4 "Waltz" that becomes a 4/4 to embrace the mechanical nature of the boss.
>>541809406You looked at the Citadel and thought they were a bunch of communists?
>>541809485The underworks bugs are very clearly dressed like members of a gulag.
>>541809020I agreeThe atmosphere in the original HK is way better than silksong, but it's also all very... sameyLike most places look almost identical to each other. They leaned in more heavily into the "the world is dark and shit and awful and sad" theme from dark souls, while in SS it's more like elden ring where there's a lot of variety in the color palette.
>>541809612what
>>541809149>if I clear out all enemiesI never bothered doing that. It all resets anyway on room transition/bench&death, so replaying that quest would be hell if I tried to do thatI used Silkspeed Anklets and Flea Brew instead. Immediately reloaded the save if package got damaged before I got into Citadel.
>>541809861>while in SS it's more like elden ring where there's a lot of variety in the color palette.Mind you that's down to there being a lot more areas in general even with them revamping at least two areas to look all fucked up to fit the Citadel wrecking everything motif.>>541810263No, only the weakest enemies respawn on room transition. The majority of enemies will not respawn if you do not bench.
Does Lace know that Hornet murdered her sister?that's going to make the fan-requested yuri relationship slightly complicated.
>>541810374*sisters. All Wraiths die, too
>>541810374>Does Lace know that Hornet murdered her sister?Maybe but they didn't code in a specific line for entering through the Mist. And even then she'd also likely know that Phantom was looking to die in battle.
>>541809149I literally just did it the last hourIt took me 3 attemptsI used silkheart & the running boots and one dose of the flea brew (pop it when coming out the top of blasted steppes, there's other good spots but I only had one dose left)I finished it with getting hit or running into something once, IIRC and I still had one pip and a tiny bit left on the timerI just cleared out that portion of citadel then took elevator to the bellbeast and traveled to bellhartDouble jump feels pretty essential for this route though
>>541807956I hope this means Coral Tower will become alive, too. And Hunter March won't collapse.
>>541809149It's entirely doable without clearing things aheadthat's what i did
>>541806867If there is an HK3, I assume the hype will be much less with how HK2 preformed. Been only a month and the vg threads feel barely active.
>>541811187I did that. I didn't know mashing into the wall breaks it. it was a bad time.
>>541807895>So anons, what's your most hated runback?bilewater and all needolin runbacks>I absolutely fucking hate waiting for elevatorsleave the elevator down, when you respawn at the bench, you press the elevator button, you drop down, land at the middle, wait for the elevator to pass you, drop down again, push the button to call the elevator and head to the boss fight, that way if you respawn again you can repeat the process
>>541811336That happened to me on my first attempt. Ever since then i walked it in once I got into the Citadel
>>541807895>what's your most hated runback?Radiance's
>>541807895I was actually really fine with that one. I think the top worse runback is Groal's. Pale Stag's runback is pretty long too.What would you guys say are the SS top 5 worse runbacks? Also, do you include or exclude pre-arenas? Or is runback equal to everything from respawn to the moment you can move in the actual boss battle?What's the top 5 best runbacks? First Sinner of course, but what else?
>>541811885Adds don't count. Pre-boss gauntlets count. Basically anything between respawn and the boss title appearing on screen.
>>541808396It could just be the Skarr that will fade without Karmelita to tether them, the lands won't fade
>>541811607idk I'd say Absolute Radiance has a worse runback
>>541809149If you're fast and efficient on the first half of the route you can make it to the start of the citadel with about half the time left, which is much more than enough to make it to the destination if you don't get hit by anythingUse silkspeed anklets and flea brew to go extra fast in the big rooms that let you sprint
>>541812230>Adds don't count.I think adds happen after the boss battle starts anyway, right?
>>541812301No Hornet was very clear that it's the lands that are fucked without her.>This giant, old ant... Her death seems recent, but her presence here...>Was it her? Could it be? The strength that sustained these caves? If so, what will happen now?>Hornet: They will wither and fade... And you may sadly know it was my needle that brought her end.>You, miss? But why? Why destroy something so vital?>Hornet: It is a difficult thing to explain simply... Her strength was needed, what was left, to cut Pharloom free of its black thread threat. It was a savage act, no doubt, but the reason was just.>Hornet: Know, in time, these caves may see opportunity to regrow, flourish even, though that rebirth is itself a task enormous... longer than a lifetime, many lifetimes.>Hornet: For that task to succeed, it will fall to bugs like you to sow the first seeds.For bonus points Hornet has a "to measure my abilities" variant for if she iced Karmelita after the hearts quest>It is a difficult thing to explain simply... A test was needed, to ensure my strength before a greater challenge soon to come.
>>541811607No Absolute Radiance is worse
>>541808967>double-killing him with Elegy of the Deep would clean the waterWhy?
>>541807956act 3.5 dlc with new areas when
>>541808396I wonder if Verdania was already doomed the moment they slew the palestag? Or did they really inherit its power and rule? Its journal entry makes it sound significant to the cloverstags andplant life there but Hornet’s commentary expresses doubt as to whether she saw it as it truly had been.
>>541805464Don't forget she also gives up tons of silk to charge Hornet's jump.
>>541813385nta, but I assume because killing the Green Prince had a similar effect
>>541807956Why would it recover? Prince may be gay, but he is not radioactive. In every other case the "master of the land" is what keeps the area healthy.
>>541814929khann couldn't stop karak from drying out so he went into total hibernation
>>541815081and shellwood is still thriving, just that its inhabitants became mindlessly hostile and some invaders apppeared (sister splinter and the sticks)
>>541814445he's not the one who befouled the lands though
>>541815965Neither was Groal.
gonna be honesti like Shakra more than Cornifer
>>541816326I meant Groal wasn't the one who befouled the landsWith Green Prince you could argue that it released some of his power back into the lands with his deathWith Groal it would just release more pollution
Bros.... i got a quest to meet trobio again. I went there and kept playing my needolin in hopes of bestowing joy back into him. I couldnt land a blow on him i love him too much. Please tell me. Tell me i dont have to deliver a fatal blow.
>>541820165He still lives at the end, just like before.
>>541820165don't worry bro trobbio is immortal so beat him up
i fucking hate deepnest
What's the point of this gauntlet other than making those guys stop singing I liked their singing
Just finished the game and...Wow Grand Mother Silk is a total failure. And reverse Pale King.She wants children to love. She uplift bunch of primitive arachnids.Eventually, every single one of them either leaves, gets executed or gets imprisoned permanently.She creates a child from Silk. She is left to rot, begging for death at the savage outlet of the Citadel.She creates another, Lace. She things GMS doesn't care, want's to replace her with Hornet.God...how do you fuck this much? Pale King sacrificed his own children like a million times and still, somehow, managed to love and be loved by Hollow Knight as a decent parent.
>>541820912I love deepnest. I thought I was so clever when I found that breakable wall and then I fell into hell.
lol looks like this big lad can get in the tunnel and get steamed to death
I wish there was a way to replay bosses bro. Like i just beat tormented Trobbio and my only option is to alt f4 immediately after which i did because i want to play it more
>>541824279She did a much better job of chasing off other higher beings at least.
>>541825308https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/292
>>541825485alright no we re talking.
>>541825398Who are you counting as higher beings? The Ant Queen? The plant? The Khan?They are clearly not higher beings. No more than Mantis Queens or Godtamers.
why does the pinstress have so much health, I just wail and wail on her
>>541811885>I was actually really fine with that one. I just absolutely hate sitting & waiting while doing nothing. I also really fucking hate the extremely slow respawn animation in Lies of P where it feels like it exclusively exists to piss you off>Also, do you include or exclude pre-arenas? Or is runback equal to everything from respawn to the moment you can move in the actual boss battle?IMO the runback is just the run to get to the boss area, the preboss spawns aren't part of it but do add to how fucking annoying it is to get back to a boss.
Cool fight
>>541825848The sylphean slugs are implied to be higher beings or at least something adjacent since they're both the source of the pale oil and the implied other half of Eva's lineage.
does this guy deal 1 heart of damage or 2 when you fight him the first time
>>541826849Go and find out
>>541827089im in steel soul mode nigga no
Bro im trying to track the pintress at mount Fay and did she just fucking freeze bro? I cant see other tracks around
>>541827503Keep going higher
>>541827139why are you first time trying a boss on steel soul lol
>>541826849Pretty sure it’s 2 masks for both troupe master and nightmare king.
>>541827503poke her
>>541827553im not, I just don't remember how much damage he doesthe guy kicked my ass a bunch of times in my first run, I want to be prepared in case he deals 2 hearts because the pantheon bosses have different damage
i drew grandma
>300-450 geo per rancid eggholy fuck
>>541827932cute
>>541827932Lace's mom has got it going on... shes all i want and i waited for so long. Lace cant you see youre just not the one for me. I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Lace's mom
>>541827932Sex.
babby horney is too cute
>yumamaCheeky cunts
>>541779447
Ok locked in and got her on the 7th try but its more like out of bountress. Kinda annoying when i stunned she kept falling of the mountain and i dont know what triggers her parrying but a LOT of hits were parried. Still cool boss
>>541832140I think if you're too late on your windows to hit her on the ground she parries
>"Bug of voice grown hoarse or shell fallen frail, you have been selected for duty most sacred.>Become our light, our guide in darkness, that others worthy may climb to join the holy song">Why... this pain?>To devote... eternal...>To serve... beyond shell...>...Must we?>Please...>Remember my voice...Did they turn all these fuckers into silk butterflies/moths to be lights and power the automatons?
>>541836726Yes.
>>541836726"Get into the automation Shinji"
>>541794523anon...
>>541836726Yep.They all have them, you can see Twelfth's leave the room the first time you go back when she tells you she's slowing down.
>>541824279So you guys know how these are "X of the Y" what are these placements about? Like "Second of the Fourth" is the second what of the fourth what?
>>541805262we don't know. it's not a given Void will kill her or corrupt her we also don't know what happens to higher beings in contact with void , the Knight is also nearby, does he just watch her die?
>>541837732I think they're something related to the Chamber's referenced in the Weaver capturing orders"Second" member "of the Fourth" Chamber
>>541837732My guess is that it's either referring to the first of the first group of prisoners, or it's just a fucked up way of counting in general.>>541838057That doesn't really make sense considering that seal is for the First Sinner.
>>541837732I think it's generations, GMS didn't raise the Weavers all at once.First Sinner is the First of the First. Literally the very first Weaver.According to the Wiki, she's called First Weaver internally as well.
>>541838316>>541838381>Penitent, Second of the Fourth.>Guilty of the sin of dissonance.>Penance by silencing.>Absolution granted after death.These sound like punishments for members of the Citadel though
>>541836726>>541837545>lure them in with a system that selects for the biggest suckers>work them to the bone for years on end>give 'em some life extensions to keep them going for possibly centuries>when that's not enough extract their soul so they can spend their afterlife as fuel for machinesGotta hand it to the citadel, they had exploiting their peons down to a science.
dude these niggas are terrifying
Post em
>>541840350Honestly a really good list. I'd personally move Bell Eater, Groal, both Conchflies, and Lugoli to Good for what it is, I'd move Nyleth up to Fun gimmick, and I'd move Gurr to Needs to be buffed.I'd also get rid of the Ow my eyes tier since I personally didn't have a problem with them, and then just move them all up to Duel with a worthy foe.
I wonder if creatures like the weird giraffe one in the Abyss area inspired the Pale King, because he saw (not necessarily that one) but something similar and thought that something like a Vessel could be made.
>>541838743Jump and attack when you see the shield up so they attack upwards
WORST ROOM IN THE GAME
Lace must be really soft and pleasant to hug because she's made entirely of silk.
>>541856321like a plushie
>>541856321Hornet please. Control yourself
Hornet is going to take Lace to her Belhart home to bang and Lace is going to have to deal with there being a beating heart on the wall
Which crest do (You) use the most?I don't mean which crest is better. just which crest do (You) like using
>>541857502I finished the game with Hunter, which is perfectly balanced, and now I'm trying Beast, which everyone recommends so much. Everything seems easier for now.
>>541857502Beast. Although I do switch to Reaper for complex platforming, mostly for in demand healing and blue tool support (give beast a single blue slot TC)
>>541857502>Flashing her bugussy in 4 out of 7 Why is she allowed to get away with this?
The Phantom art is building, slow and steady...
>>541808159Hollow Knight is a baby tier game for babies so that checks out, literally the only difficult part in any% is doing Watcher Knights early.
>>541856321what would hugging Phantom feel like?
>>541827503>did she just fucking freeze bro?Yes, but it's not fatal yet. Strike a finishing blow. Free her of her misery.
lolhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/kf1YX311bmE
>>541836726>and power the automatonsIt doesn't make much sense, considering Whiteward was a medical institution, not a tech institution. Machines were powered with souls for sure, but connection to Whiteward and Lumaflies is tenuous at best.
>>541857502>Which crest do (You) use the most?Hunter.>just which crest do (You) like usingI don't really love Hunter, but it's the default neutral with no gimmicks. Wanderer is for DPS, Reaper for pogo, Architect for health regen, Witch for Bell Eater, Beast for Plasmium enemies, Shaman for... nothing (too late). All situational. Hunter is all-rounder.
Why didn't the knight just rape the Radiance?
>>541864270Can't rape the immaterial Pale King had this problem as wellI'm convinced that old PK would spank GMS for this reason
>>541827932>Ghost enjoys this for eternity
>>541809146Do I upgrade wanderers and take the long nail weighted belt pill
>>541857502I have been glued to Shaman since I got it, its so fucking fun. Desperately hoping that Team Cherry adds a NG+ that lets you start a fresh file with all your unlocked crests. It cant be that hard, they're all locked to chapels. Also buff Rune Rage you cowards.
>>541809149Take the route from bellhart > elevator > the woods > blasted steps > citadel.If you can't be fucked pre clearing, clawline past enemies blocking your way and use upgraded poison tools to deal with the shit blocking your path. Use the sillkspeed anklets to cover and cancel jumps with your dashes to stay low to the ground and get back to sprinting speed again.You'll have a comfortable amount of time if you keep moving to take 2/3 hits.
>>541865701I'll get double jump for the jumping sections in citadel. The initial verticality is tough
>>541796667Some people don't understand that difficulty is not some sort of absolute slider. Different people have different aptitudes so what is incredibly difficult for someone is not for someone else. And Hollow Knight/Silksong are different enough from Souls games that the aptitude to one don't really translate to aptitude to another. Let alone the fact that even in the same game people's experience with difficulty varies terribly. I know a guy that defeated most boss in Silksong in a few tries, and then wasted hours getting lost everywhere without being able to understand where he needed to go. Or how I defeated Friede in DS3 first try and then proceeded to lose two hours and around twenty tries against Twin Princes, something that I understand is the exact opposite from the usual experience.
The Choir is such a fucking banger
>>541866859Where the fuck did all these people comparing Hollow Knight and Silksong to a soulslike even come from, I dont get it at all.>bro when you die you lose your money and have to get it back!So Shovel Knight is a Soulslike? The HK games aren't action RPGs! I feel like I'm going crazy!
>>541862914There's a room where the conversion process happens that's accessible in act 3 isn't there?
>>541857502I'd say I'm a basic bitch Hunter main but I'm trying to give Beast a chance to grow on me and I think I'll rush Shaman for act 3.
>>541867913It's because, again, they don't understand that difficulty can be in different things. So they managed to finish a souls game, which are famous for their difficulty, and in their head the fact that they have more difficulty in Silksong means that the game is unreasonably more difficult than souls, despite them being simply different enough that skill in one doesn't translate in skill in the other.
>>541866859Yeah me and my brother play these games. He has better aptitude for the bosses and stuff, I had an easier time with the platforming. Such is life.
>>541867913If you disregard gameplay, Hollow Knight in terms of general atmosphere is very similar to Dark Souls>Immortal guy adventuring in the ruin of an ince glorious kingdom now fallen victim to an affliction that makes people crazy, with focus on environmental storytelling
>>541825035>yes and you call them steamed underworkers despite the fact they are obviously skewered
Damn that Zote is really strong. He and Berdly sure are the strongest in their own franchises.
>>541869924>GOOD LORD, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THERE!
>>541838743fight them like you would these: hit the shield while you're on the ground then bounce on them while they're retaliating
>>541870843>fight them like you would theseI either use silk skills against them, or just run away. I would have used tools if I had shards.
>>541870843>fight them like you would theseWith a railgun from a safe distance?
>>541847414You can dreamnail the jellies and they dont do anything, infinite heals
>>541871059Yes
>>541780983The .info shows missing craftmetal, unlike the .com
>>541795097They were worse. Your shade attacked you on platforming sections which was awful. While the benches were closer to bosses, the knight moves more slowly. You had to use crystal dash or other skills to bypass enemies in the runback. The time it took to get to bosses again was actually LONGER than in silk song. Idk wtf is wrong with people in silk song. If you hold run, avoid enemies, and chart your path you reach bosses faster than in HK. >t. Last judge ran back a dozen times in about 20 seconds each
>>541796667I don't play any soulslike games. Tried dark souls for two hours and ragequit that dog shit mechanic. Figured maybe 2D is more for me. Salt and sanctuary... Three hours and again dropped the game due to lack of interest. Meanwhile I got every achievement on HK and am on track to get every achievement in SS. I abhor soulslike games and adore HK. Turns out that hollow knight is not a soulslike. Oh, and to rub salt in the wound, I'm apparently better than all these whiny soulslike players getting filtered at the difficulty? How the fuck is that even possible? How is it that I, someone who got filtered by dark souls am mogging these allegedly ultra elite gamers who get filtered by HK?
>>541871725You can't just raw time for a runback. Watching a cutscene is different than doing an intense parkouring session where a single mistake would have you falling into chasms or crowds of enemies and multiplying time, leaving you with no silk or health if you don't return to the bench.
>>541867913Who even compares games to Dark Souls nowadays? I thought "difficulty = souls game" fad peaked in 2017 and completely faded by now.
>>541857502Wanderer because speed is everything
>>541795097HK was worse, people just dont remember it because the bosses were way easier. Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Crystal Guardian, Hive Knight. Even stuff like Nosk was just boring. Meanwhile the only bad runbacks in SS are Groal and Watcher.
>>541872045Have you not used the internet since 2017?
>>541857502>which crest do (You) like usingWander, Beast, and Witch. I like things that are fast and comfortable.
>>541861728Cotton? Wool at worse.
>>541871956>IntenseThey weren't that bad. Then again I like moving fast so the hornet runbacks felt better to me than the knight runbacks.
>>541870843(nta) I actually didn't know how to fight these with just the needle. I just keep attacking them and eventually hits got through.
>>541871443>unlike the .comThe .com shows it though?Also, you can't see this on the .info (like how I'm doing now on the .com) if you completed it all already.
>>541872984Since when? I tried it a few days ago and it didn't work.
>>541872984Your site missed critical information. When it was exposed, you fixed it in secret, didn't tell anyone, seethed it got replaced for being incomplete, and now pretend it was never incomplete? A simple apology that you forgot to show critically important information would have gone a long way. Why are you like this?
>>541873473>critically importantWhat about secret passages? They're important, too
>>541873563You've completely missed the point. Craftmetal are needed to purchase tools, which themselves are required for 100%. Given the URL, and the tracker counting percentages, I will assume this is a website designed to help people reach 100% completion. Not including missing craftmetals means someone who is missing one gets little benefit from the tracker. Again, why are you like this?
>>541872861i didn't too and got mad at their shields too much that i pogo'd them and found they block that too and retaliate by swinging upwards in a wide arc, so i figured their only weak point must be while they were attacking
>>541872984 (me)>>541873095Yeah, I remember in one of the previous threads when someone posted about it. Guess they updated it between now and then.>>541873473I'm honored you think I'm competent enough to design a site, let alone, design a site in less than 1 month of SS's release. I'm not worthy of such praise.
>>541873679>You've completely missed the point.I'm not. Add which secret passages are missing to your site. Map already displays them, so only save-reading is left.
What is this cancerous gaunlet to fight Karmelita man.
>>541876018It's like 2 stages dude. Just dump tacks all across the floor and sting shards all over the sky then fight Karmelita without tools like a manbug.
>>541876575its not the difficulty of it thats the problem. The boss is cool make her stronger and ditch the gaunltlet. Its boring to go through it just to learn the fight
>>541875487You're one dense mf. You can't reach 100% completion without collecting all craftmetals. It's a necessary thing to add in 100% trackers. It's nothing like not including hidden passages to collect shell shards.
>>541873737For me, it's the shield guys in blasted steps. They have a weird tempo to their attacks. Also small platforms to fight them on. Big guys in City of Tears were a breeze in comparison
What is lace's attack pattern when she does that parry
>>541877114Agreed. She's great, but the pre-arena, like with most pre-arena, is a pain.While we're at it, reduce how far I have to run to battle her (for some reason I have to go above and over the stage??) and reduce the needolin sequence if I've recently respawned from her dream.>>541877992At first their tempo threw me off too. There's like an awkward long pause. Since you can pogo them though, they become really easy.>>541878263Like what decides which type of parry she'll use? Idk, but both ripostes can be dodged by jumping up. Might need to double jump or float if it's the diagonal-air riposte.
>>541878538I'm not sure when she does that jump riposte or that ground thrust riposte, its always getting me
>>541878751Just jump up. The moment you hit her guard, simply go directly upwards into the air. No left or right. Just go up. Double jump and/or float if needed. Going directly up should be enough to dodge both types of ripostes.If you get really good at this, you'll even be able to pogo her (on either riposte) as she's retaliating. It can be to the point where you'll actually want to trigger her riposte since it'll be easy to dodge and give you a free hit.
>>541878751>>541879208 (me)This is what I mean, if it's not clear. This is with the diagonal riposte. (video is too long since the editor I use seems to only allow crops in 5 sec increments or so.)
Any controllers you guys recommend? Im playing on an old ps3 controller and the buttons are kinda fucked by now. Really affects gameplay.
>>541880017This is the horizontal one. (Also, anybody recommends me a video editor? My crops are often too long with this one)
Do mementos count towards % completion?Because I'm about to fucking lose it.
>>541860476who's the one on the right?
>>541880127no
>>541880104Sorry, wanted to mark this as spoiler.>>541880131Ruby Rose>>541880127No. Check https://silksong-completionist.com/ to see what you're missing.
>>541880279Thank fucking god>>541880310This looks useful, thanks anon
>>541880017>>541880104I think it's based on where you are when she parries.
>>541880595Possibly, but it still stands that going directly up will dodge both.
>>541880809I just turned around, dashed and kept sprinting, she could never reach me.
>>541871954The first Dark Souls is a slog in current year. Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring are a lot faster paced and fluid and nicer to play
If Hornet is the player character in HK3 how do you explain her not having all the abilities she gained in SS
Tell me this isn't the end
>>541882734it's an end
>>541883261I heard this game had 3 acts, isn't this act 2
>>541883381nta, but "an" end implies there's more than one.
Could use some help in the flea tossing minigame. When you hit a flea, is it just completely random where they go? Because it gets to a point where they're stretched apart so far that you can't possibly reach both ends of the stage to keep juggling.
>>541883381To get to act 3 you have to do a bunch of things to get a quest that will give you options after you beat the act 2 boss
>>541883980>When you hit a flea, is it just completely random where they go?No, the trick is to direct them all to one side of the platform. Don't use upward slashes, just smack em all from the same side. Hit them on their right they'll go to their left, etc.
>>541884174A those fleas, fuck
>>541884339It's not the only requirement but yes, you have to complete the flea caravan journey (doesn't mean finding every single flea, but you do need to do that if you want the final needle upgrade)You also need to complete every side quest from the towns' notice boards
>>541884837There's no wishes on the notice board both at bellhart and bonebottom, man I hate these types of quest
>>541885287Check the Songclave one
>>541885342Yes I finished that too, thats where I found the putrified ducts, I better start finding those fleas
>>541882140I tried it around 2014. Didn't like it.
>>541885287You need to buy all the maps from Shakra
>>541885729That's okay
>>541885484>I found the putrified ductsDid you find Wreath of Purity and the warrior flea lady? She sells flea maps.
>>541886471I only found the huntress there
Why is every single relevant, strong and cool or admirable character in this game a female?
>>541887030who cares
>>541887030it's her turn
>>541886994Vog is pretty well hiddenHint: you start from the long room with the big bulldozer bugs on platforms and look up
>>541886174I think it's the stamina and leveling mechanic I hated. In hollow knight it's a true metroidvania where you get skills and can spec with crests or tools. None of this level grinding bullshit or stamina management (which is baked into the leveling crap).
>>541887030Hint: buy the map. Go to unexplored path. Yes, it's accessible.Hint 2: You can use Barnaks to ascend once you're inside.
Something up here?I can't seem to latch onto anything and I don't really wanna run back to bench, grab beast & run back over hereIt's at all the way east in putrified ducts, past the lake & then up
>>541871954>Oh, and to rub salt in the wound, I'm apparently better than all these whiny soulslike players getting filtered at the difficulty? How the fuck is that even possible? How is it that I, someone who got filtered by dark souls am mogging these allegedly ultra elite gamers who get filtered by HK?See >>541866859There is not thing as a generic "ultra elite gamer". Someone could be the greatest Souls game in the world and struggle to get past the first levels in XCom.
>>541887451fuck
>>541887451You needn an act 3 ability to get thereBut there's nothing too interesting in that hole, just some lore that starts a quest that leads to a secret ending
>>541887030Because the game is woke. Like are we even lying to ourselves?
>>541887451>>541887596There are areas designed to be inaccessible via double jump and or wall cling but this doesn't mean they will be inaccessible forever. If you understand my meaning.
>>541887030And big bad are women too, you know? GMS widow and that parasite infecting tree
>>541887030we must be better hollow knights
>>541887532Obviously a game like XCOM, which is turn based tactics, is very different from a game like hollow knight which requires swift psychomotor skills. If you're an idiot, as in psychologically literally retarded, you cannot excel in XCOM. Yet you can be mentally sharp and excel in XCOM, yet have the reflexes of a dead pigeon and make zero progress in hollow knight. For an extreme example a blind person can in theory beat XCOM provided the information is translated to them. A blind person shouldn't ever be able to beat hollow knight. This is where your comparison holds up. Where it breaks down is that the skills necessary to be good at hollow knight (swift reaction timing) directly translates to dark souls and vice versa. Patience and reaction times help with both. Now of course there is a difference in the games, such as build management but let's not pretend that HK and DS are as different as HK and XCOM.
>>541887632>nothing too interesting>just... a secret endingThis sounds insane if you don't know what's up, lol.
>>541887632>nothing too interesting>a quest that leads to a secret endinga-anon?
>>541887931I'd call it a meme ending.
>>541887382Meant for >>541886994
>>541887931>>541887996nta but it's a joke ending like the ufo ending in SH
>>541888047>>541888071Double funny is that Hornet treats this quest VERY seriously, kek.
>>541887892I made an extreme example but the two combat systems are still different enough that skill in one doesn't translate directly in another. Sure swift reaction timing helps in both, but it also helps in fighting games and first person shooters and you don't hear the argument that one good at one should also be good at souls. For fuck's sake, there are shit load of people for which their skill at souls games as melee characters don't translate to ranged/caster ones, and viceversa. The fact that Silksong doesn't have a dodge roll for invulnerability frames and a stamina bar already changes the combat in a fundamental way.
>>541888541You'd think managing a stamina bar for attacks should make you better at a game that doesn't need them. I'd hypothesize skill in HK translates to DS but not vice versa.
>>541888919Skill in HK doesn't even translate for other platformers. I just finished LL without any troubles, then started another metroidvania and immediately got obliterated by mooks in the tutorial area. You have to develop muscle memory from scratch.
hk and silksong do something that no other game dared to explore before and that is specifically 2D aerial combat>scrolling shootersno, because those game are about flying, 2D aerial combat in hk and silksong involve jumping and pogoing, which becomes a pivotal mechanic in the whole game
>>541889646>aerial combatYou mean close combat? Because long-range aerial combat are a joke in Silksong. Mouse is not supported, so you can't really aim. There's not even a proper upwards attack, you have to use cogflies for Craggler.
>>541891228okay, yes, let's call it close aerial combat, I mean, is there any other game that focuses on this mechanic as much as hk?
>>541891228Voltvessel is fantastic for all those enemies that are directly above you
>>541889646You might be interested in this game:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1390350/Webbed/It's an adventure about making webs as a spider. Not combat-heavy per-se, but still uses vertical space extensively.
>>541857502witch is definitely most fun to me
>>541888207
he happily had a full on conversation with that big bird. He just hates morons.
>>541887030Because the story is centered around Motherhood
Do you like silk-sucking tools? Wispfire Lantern, Silkspeed Anklets, etc?..
>>541897717no
>>541897717I like silkspeed anklets because GOTTA GO FAST
>>541897717no, they suck
>>541897717At first I liked Wispfire Lantern, but I stopped using it after a while. It was helpful for some flying enemies, or enemies in hard to reach spots (like pharlids climbing on a wall that I want to climb up). Since there's low-silk regen, it was like an auto-red tool that didn't use shards.
>>541897717after playing with anklets for the delivery, going back to not using them feels awful
>>541897717anklets are solid but lantern kind of sucks
>>541899604The wisp lantern just doesn't do enough damage to justify it's blue slot it's 10 contact and 3 ticks of 4? Iirc this is for an item that technically risks cucking you out of a heal or silk skill honestly why does it use silk at all? The father of the flame seems to be completely unconnected to silk to begin with
Are there plans to bring hallownest to Silksong? I really miss the fungus, bee and mantis enemies.
>>541903317I doubt it but depending on how similar the code is i could see a modder doing some tale of 2 wastelands type shit if they could port Hollownest map into silk song
>>541901894Unironically this is why I never use items like the anklets. I feel that if I allow myself to get used to them then all my muscle memory will be based on the anklets and then if I have to play without them it'll feel weird. I can't use Flea Brew or stuff that increases swing speed / reach either.
>>541891228I never used tools for the craggler. A double jump gets a hit in without getting hit by the acid because of the fucking long ass animation to grip and climb a ledge.
>>541903317>>541903623Porting Hornet's movement skills to HK would be enough
>>541904150They would have to rework all the levels and enemies to fit in with her movement and abilities.
>>541904040you can hit it 2-3 times without having any abilities
>>541903296>The wisp lantern just doesn't do enough damage to justify it's blue slot>this is for an item that technically risks cucking you out of a heal or silk skillYeah, and other than getting seared organs for no shard cost, it's really not to useful. I did stop using it after all. Would be nice if they made it's damage proportional to needle damage, like silk skills and clawline. Even just 1 needle damage per hit would be nice. Would kill baby flies against brood mother for example, or kill a few flying enemies with just a hit or two (like the evasive one that throws bells).
All arial enemies melt to the clawline. The goal is clawline > pogo as many times as possible > clawline again while falling past them, either into the same enemy or another who has risen to meet you.I'm worried how I will fare without the clawline on a second playthough. I can barely remember what life was like before it. I'm a clawline scrub now.
>>541904418>Fixed Crafting Kits not increasing the damage of offensive blue tools (eg Sawtooth Circlet).they are solving that in the next update
So guys, which companion did you pick? Lace is a bit hard to get but she seems better than Sherma or Shakra
>>541904496>All arial enemies melt to the clawline.>*Parries your clawline*I think picrel was made for countering this.Also, Flintflame Flyer's bombs still explode in my face when I clawline them. Spit Squits I can hit, but they don't go down immediately, and I get squit spit on me.>>541905247Nice.>>541905394Did you try Phantom? If you don't kill Phantom in Act 2, she'll be voided in Act 3. Beating her like that unlocks her as a companion. With her you get to have cross stitch auto proc by chance, like how lucky dice works.
what?
>>541905705>Spit Squits I can hit [with clawline], but they don't go down immediately, and I get squit spit on me.Clawlining them to get above them is the only way I've ever been able to kill them without resorting to tools. Before I thought to do it I thought I was gonna die down there in those ducts, it was taking me minutes to kill a single fly.
>>541905705>Did you try Phantom? If you don't kill Phantom in Act 2, she'll be voided in Act 3. Beating her like that unlocks her as a companionHuh didn't know that, supposedly there's a secret way to unlock GMS too, but I haven't figured it out yet
>>541904496>All arial enemies melt to the clawline.Except when they're flying so high that you can't reach them with clawline even after a double jump
i fucking HATE deepnest
>>541907158They all come down eventually; they can't resist the allure of thinking they're safe just out of reach. Then when you're above them it's too late, they shit the bed. I'd say these guys put up the most resistance to the tactic since they are willing to move away a signficant distance, even when you get above them.
baba gondala
>>541908143Just dash all over the place, they'll go down. I never could defeat them hitless, tho. Very annoying on a Clover Dancers runback
>>541908463>I never could defeat them hitless, tho. Very annoying on a Clover Dancers runbackSame here. For me that gauntlet is a contender for the hardest in the entire game. Consider that it's late-game, by this point you're fully spec'd, have all power-ups, have your preferred strategies in place, preferred crest, and it's still rock solid. I had to use tools to get over the line. I was just making no progress whatsoever otherwise. When I cleared it I had 1 mask.
>>541908837gauntlet is optional, tho
>>541908837Really? I was able to do it on my second try. I forgot the trick to beating them though. Maybe it was to stay in-place an bait them? Idk. That said, two at a time can be annoying.I think HH gauntlet was harder. The coral tower gauntlet too (not the boss one, the 3-in-a-row one).
>>541909569Coral tower was very manageable, the individual mobs are all very simple and easy to learn plus it throws those fat jellyfish things at you for free silk if you need to heal in the middle of the battleThe only really annoying enemy in that fight is the big guy that sprays orange blobs all over the place, since you don't get to hit him a lotAnd the big red brute guys got nothing on the big dudes in the high halls one
literally 4 in 5 people who've played this game never saw babby hornet
What happens in Verdania when you collect the orbs and they shoot away and a light comes from off screenAm I unlocking a room somewhere?
>>541911435yes
>>541911872I noticed that the green prince guy was roughtly in the direction the orb went toAm now fighting a gauntlet of flying cunts who keep teleporting all over the place and it is extremely annoying
Hello. I'm still playing Hollow Knight 1. I have defeated the Sealed Vessel, acquiring the corresponding ending. I got some questions:I saw I need some stuff for the next ending including an upgrade to the Dream Nail but such upgrade needs 1800 essence. I'm at less than 1300. Is there a good place to get all that essence super fast?Any tips you guys recommend?Also that ending was awesome. I got a lot of Son of Miracle feel from with the MC taking the place of the Hollow Knight
>>541912443The place that gets unlocked is right before that arena iirc. You gotta go upwards to the house. Also, that arena seems optional.
>>541912913The Dream mini-bosses should have enough Essence if you do all of them I think, but's it been a while
>>541913305Alright I'm checking and seems I can do that. Unfortunately I already gave Fragile Heart to the troupe woman and it costs 12000 to get that back and I don't have a bank anymore but at least I still got Fragile Offense.Thanks
that was easy
Is there really no shortcut to this fight
>>541916180>architect>can't even first try gay prince
>>541916691That's Reaper, not architect
>>541916979my bad I just saw the poison cogflies and assumed
>>541915575Now do it in under 5>>541912913Lost King gives 400 and Soul Master/False Champ give 300. You can also keep fighting Zote if you saved him.
>>541912913You can go back to boss arenas and fight dream versions. They drop a lot of essence.
Fucking Widow man. Second phase keeps messing me up.
>>541919457Just gotta watch her animations carefully, when you see her brace for the slash, jump out of the way
fuck it I'm gonna cheat to get to act 3 I give up. trying to find the last fleas and other shit I'm missing is agonizing in this gigantic map
>>541917973>>541919294Alright I beat Lost Kin.False Champion is kicking my ass way harder ironically.Also I saved Zote and just fought him in the Coliseum. Guess I can also fight his dream version nowThanks
>>541922989just search lost flea herehttps://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
>>541923406False Champ is harder. A good strategy is farming soul via dreamnail and healing to full every time his head is exposed.
>>541925317Thank you
>13 tries on Carmelita>get very late into phase 3 when each hit could be it and im at full health>a strangle sadness builds up inside me and i put the controller downi have legitimate fucking issues i just dont want to kill this ant. She sings so beautifully bro
>>541925979I like the details in that fight like her singing cutting out when she's stunned. Or the lights shaking when she does a slam attack. Its such a beautifully realized boss.
>>541910661I mean half the playerbase never even made it to act 2
>>541910661only 1/3rd of players have even beaten act 2, less have gotten to act 3
>>541926585bro i beat her on the next try and i felt a pain in my heart im not even kidding. I think i got way too invested in the story
>>541926914Reload the area and talk to the NPC.The pain gets worse.
>>541927169where is the npc supposed to be. I went back and theres nothing except a logged door right of old Carmelita
>>541926914>>541925979You don't have to beat her.... You need 3 hearts, but there's 4 available. You can get 100% completion without ever beating her.
>>541926585but if you don't get all 4 hearts the snails (Jewish) will die and they won't be able to corrupt the next civilization
>>541927760The 4th prevents them from dying?
>>541927491Gilly is supposed to be there. Maybe she's in some other area nearby but I swear she was at Karmelita's corpse.
>salubras blessing requires the kingcharmfucking hell
>>541927836>>541927760They still get consumed by the Everbloom spell. They just have extra dialogue if you found the Conjoined Heart. But they still only use three.
>>541928132Hiveblood and Joni's blessing trivialize the white palace
>>541784474>Witch In Bilewater>ShamanAct 3, don't worry about it
>>541925979>i just dont want to kill this antI was so pissed off at her I wanted nothing more than to destroy herYes I'm bad at games so I need to take out my anger on bosses
>>541926914Even if you don't kill her, she's a shadow of her former glory, the her you see in the memory is the her she can never be againShe's doomed to slowly rot away even if you don't take her heart
>>541925979>>541926914she's basically a barely alive rotting corpse in the present day it's a mercy killing
I don't know how TC managed to make a game that I genuinely fucking hate sometimes yet I can't put it down and I don't want it to end
Ahh Mount fay is beating me up One of the warm lights even broke. I guess it's supposed to punish failing the jumps or something
Is there any Lord Fool - Crusty King Khann relation? They look a bit similar
>>541932332the fire weapon buff tool can warm you up too
>>541932587I tried that but I'm just too slow. Maybe tomorrow
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY BOY. MY BRAVE KNIGHT THAT CAME TO MY AID WHEN I NEEDED HIM MOST.
>>541933448I actually yelled out Noooooo when I saw Zaza panicking, such a gutpunch.
>>541933448saddest moment in the game... rest in peace my friend...
>cogflies go after the ghost in clover dancerslol they designed this fight explicitly to counter toolscrubs like me
>>541933448Zaza will return in HK3 with edgy teenage Sherma as dual protagonists
>>541935934I'll take over a Lace game
>>541936160same
>>541928132OHOHOHOHOHOOOHOOHOHOOHHOO
Aight let's see how badly this goes
>fucking bitch can block silkshotIt's overIt's so over
Just beat Lost Lace, got 100% completion. She started glitching on me by doing that tentacle rush in mid-air, but I still got her.This game is equal amounts fun and obnoxious.Thinking I may go back and play Hollow Knight for comparison.
>>541798374>It's supposed to be shittyCope
>>541798374The sadistic kangaroos at TC wanted that seethe blighttown originally had.
>>541938641>blighttownWhen I first heard of bilewater, for some reason Dark Souls' Blighttown was the first thing that come to mind. After seeing Bilewater for myself, I really can't help but feel it was inspired by Blightttown.
>>541932332Yeah don't clawline them
>>541932528Huh, he even has a coral like shell
>>541937959Jesus fucking christ this third phaseI literally don't get half a second to even ponder the notion of hitting her once
>>541940592Yeah your timing has to be tight
>>541940592Phase 3 is actually exactly the same as phase 2, she just adds the void given form attack. Dont let the visual clutter distract you, stay away from the left wall and keep calm.
>>541940592ironically she has more opening because she floats in place to do some attacks, once you get used to all the bullshit flying around it becomes doable
BRO YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS WHAT IS THIS GAUNTLET. KHANN BRO THE FUCK
>>541942109remember to open the shortcut after the 3rd one
Started a randomizer run in HK. I have beaten HK 2 times and SS 1 time. I swear to god, I can not find where to go in this random run. I have picked up or bought every single items possible, collected every grub or whatever else possible. I CAN NOT find where to progress because 100% of all options are locked out to me because I don't have dash, double jump, or wall jump. I could go to like 50 places if I have wall jump.What should I do?
I love that some day a Silksong godmaster dlc is gonna drop and there will be a boss in this game called Absolute Grandma
>>541942456unless you accidentally generated a glitched logic or no logic seed, randos should always be beatable. it'll possibly require an extremely convoluted chain of checks or maybe you missed a check somewhere available to you, in obscure areas that you don't care about in normal hk.
>>541942456Maybe it expects you to enemy pogo somewhere. How should we know?
>>541942296oh i did i thought id have to do all 4 and boss since its a memory
>>541943268you just gotta redo the easy 4th one pre boss
>>541942456>>541943212 (me)if it's you're first time playing rando, don't be ashamed to use the rando helper txt files. i remember there being a file that shows what checks you haven't gotten that you can get with your current equipment, and updates itself when you get an item that opens more checks.
>>541943453i got him 2nd try he was a joke gauntlet was the "hard part" only because after the third one youre like wait this is fucking memory i have to face a boss no way theres a bench if i die i have to redo all of that etc etc.
2 hours in, just beat Widow. Will I make it to the end in 5?
but why did they remove the SHAW?
>>541944985Sure if you motor and know the route. Act 2 can go really fast, the biggest chokepoints are high halls gauntlet and lace 2. Right now you need to decide if you're going Phantom route or Judge route (skip the underworks if you do Judge). Both are viable.
holy fuck it's not just path of pain I forgot the entire white palace is terrible
>>541945201Saving it for Absolute Grand Mother Silk's deathblow
>>541945768I can cope with everything including PoP but those 2 white palace hallways of saws and spears where you just micro move forward were fucking trash.
best crests for fleagames?
>>541946317:^)
>>541946842try em out man. see for yourself
>>541946842shaman reaper reaperi did all three with wanderer anyway
>>541947002>sends you back to the start instead of the safe spots between sawsFUCK YOU
>>541943268Yeah it's kinda weird
Okay wait a minute.Are you telling me that to deliver the courier bugs' meat to the gourmand, that I'm gonna have to walk it to him all the way from Bellhart?
>>541947689You can run, jump, double jump, and dashIf you're running and smash into a solid object you lose a pip though
>>541947689yeahdelicate flower was harder desu
>>541947689Its not as bad as it seems and you can prekill all the pilgrims to make it easier. Try to get double jump beforehand, it makes it free.
>>541947689Keep in mind you can go from grandgates directly to choral chambers.
>>541947689Learn this route, the blasted steps part will be way easier and faster if you have double jumpStart from the gourmand's room and do the route back to bellhart first, clearing all enemiesAlso avoiding damage is massively more important than being fast, you have more than enough time if you know where you're going, but taking damage will ruin your shitFor the long rooms that let you sprint for a long time, use silkspeed anklets and flea brew for maximum sanicDon't crash into walls while sprinting tho
>need to beat pantheon 5 to get all achievements>twice
>>541949461Why? You only need to beat it once right?
>>541946842got it with shaman, hunter, reaperbest nail here i come
So in act 3 anons said its better to have 4 hearts to turn in but i only see 3 displayed and i have one more from the plasmium dude sitting there. Is there a hidden boss i have to find?
>>541952934Yeah there's a hidden 4th heart
>>541953016i just beat seth and im about to go for the 3rd and final displayed heart. Do i lose the ability to search for the 4th if i do it now? Should i not fight the forest chicka yet and go lookin?
>>541953259No you dont lose it and you can do it at any time, even after the final boss. There is just some dialogue from the snails pre-ritual if you wait to do it until after you turn the hearts in.
>>541952934The plasmium gland being another secret heart you could use would have been cool
>>541953403*some dialogue you'll miss
>>541865485>Also buff Rune Rage you cowards.They're actually nerfing Rune Rage in the next patch
>>541867913>>541872045The average gamer thinks soulslike = hard fantasy game. I know a guy who compared fucking breath of the wild to dark souls because "they both don't explain shit"
>>541893613Witch is shockingly fun. I kind of wish got it earlier but at the same time I don't want to get it too early on my second playthrough and miss the cursed ending again
I'm so thankful that I knew the witch crest existed before I started act 3, I probably wouldn't have gone looking for it otherwiseI also probably wouldn't have found bilewater without everyone online bitching about it
>>541910661Even less people have 100% the game
>>541947689Flea brew + sklllspeed anklets = easy as fuck delivery, nothing's stopping you from killing every enemy on the way there if you're struggling with it. Plus, you really want to get this done before you go into act 3, for... reasons
>>541953764I know and its insane. Threadstorm nerf is fair and I say that as someone who plays Volt Shaman, but fucking Rune Rage? Hope they come to their senses in the future. Also they should buff Sharp Dart to come out faster
>>541926914>>541925979If it makes you feel any better, you're fulfilling her wishInstead of her dying alone, old and frail, you instead grant her wish of dying with a smile. In her prime in combatYou granted her one last dance
>>541955067It still dooms her land for generations though :( makes things quite grim if you go for her heart 4th.
>>541954943It's such an odd choice to nerf Rune Rage considering it's long windup and damage as isAnd I agree they should 100% shorten Sharp Dart's windup good lord
>p5 nightmare grimm does 2 hearts of damage>apparently you have to unlock the lifeblood cocoonsfuck
FUCK THIS FAGGOT
>>541955324Doesnt NKG always do 2 hearts?>>541955323I know right, it has a casting delay that leaves you vulnerable AND it has rng hitboxes. Its locked behind a cool tough boss, let it be a neat spell. It used to be okay for arenas but now its always going to be a bad choice. Hopefully they reverse course in a future patch.
>>541955323Team Cherry are permanently traumatized by Shade Cloak trivializing most of the first game that they don't want Hornet to have even remotely the same power.
>>541955594I guess TC just wants players to fight the arenas as intended instead of using Rune Rage. Odd choice considering it leaves you so vulnerable for so long you're better off using any other silk skillit's weird because it's 100% RNG. I've used Rune Rage before where it literally hit no one
>>541955696>trivializing most of the first gameI found that thing super late in my first playthrough and didn't use it to it's full potential until I fought traitor lord and the trial of the fool and pantheons
>>541955324i did p5 with no lifeblood, the biggest challenge without it is absrad. pv and nkg are pushovers. absrad just fucks you over with bad rng like orbs into lasers or laser rng. the climb lasers will more often than not hit you when you're really close to the top.
Beastcrestbros, what can TC do to make us better...
I have 2 theories for the last heart. The creature in the woods thats like a sus worm, the thing i fed the chefs pudding to. If its not them i have to look it up
>>5419565262 blues cause thats where everything fun is.
>>541956957The woods heart is kinda bullshitRemember the grand elevator in the Choral Chambers? Try Silk Soar
>>541957230i found that one im talking about the hidden 4th heart anons keep rumbling about
>>541957079honestly that's it. That's all beast needs. Just 2 blue slotsHell, swap one of the red tools for a blue slot. Make it so Wanderer and Beast are the only crests with 1 tool slot
>>541957453Oh, try going right of the Craws
>>541956526Let it heal 1 mask upon binding but also 3 more masks through attacks. Or give the bind modes like Architect and separate the boost and the heal, and buff the boost so it can dethrone Wanderer for highest dps.
>>541956526>Crest is ass for exploration>only slots in yellow exploration toolsWHATWERETHEYTHINKINGHOW DOES IT HAVE LESS BLUES THAN FUCKING WANDERER?
>>541958391>Crests entire mythos and playstyle is "to be as aggressive and unhinged as possible">Give it all yellow slots, which are for exploration Seriously, what was the play here
>>541958749YOU CANT EVEN SLOT IN THE LORE ACCURATE ANT MASK WITHOUT A VESTICREST, MY IMMERSION REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>541958902>Can't even LARP as an ant because no blues>The crest that you get in the heart of the ant colonySeriously WHAT was the plan here
>>541827932Do we have any theories on what exactly she's supposed to be? Like how the Radiance is a big moth or the Pale King was a big worm that became a butterfly. Best I can tell is that she's some sort of mannequin combined with a ball of yarn.
>>541959310Silk spool
>>541959310hard to say. the most we know is she's a pale being but not what. It's be interesting if she's some sort of mechanical being. She seems to be purely made of silk but can also uplift/evolve beings and create life itself
>>541959310A spider.
>>541959310Was he a butterfly?
>>541959605I pray that someone who complains nonstop about 2 masks of damage fell victim to this attack and found out that it does 3 masks of damage instead
>>541959687pretty much the only proof for it is the monarch wings
Is the Faythorn a Pale Being as well?Older than than the Citadel, respected by the Weavers, talks with Mr. Mushroom.
>>541959924Possibly. May be another Unn situation
>>541959310I hear the white lady is a root, so I guess it's not limited to bugs. Maybe she's legit just a pale being of silk. Silkworms and spiders produce silk, so maybe that's the connection to bugs?
>>541959310Pale Beings might be linked to concepts more than natureRadiant - Dreams/The SunGMS - I don't fucking know, Silk and song?, connections?The Pale King - CivilizationThe White Lady - Nature evolving and adapting
How finish wall section in trial of fools? I suck without speed and strengh charms. Spell charm and spam fireball?
>>541959762>deals 6 with that one barbed toolKinda wish it was a straight up instakill normally, its a cool attack but easy to avoid. Would give her a good threat level.
>>541959924Higher Being =/= Pale BeingPale Beings are a type of Higher Being. But not all Higher Beings are Pale Beings. That said I could imagine Faythorn is a Higher Being, maybe similar in strength to Unn.
>>541960776Try to stay above or below them and use either pogos or howling wraiths.
>>541947002>He didn't pogo on the midpoint sawNgmi
>>541960776use shaman stone and shade soul them
>>541959597>>541960001>>541960514I meant more what her design is supposed to be reminiscent of, not so much the lore stuff. Like if there's a specific piece of sewing equipment that TC was looking at when they came up with her specific shape.>>541959557It's plausible, her having a black body underneath the silk inside the Void was interesting. I just haven't seen a spool with that kind of shape before.>>541959605I hadn't noticed that, with the eight arms she does become a regular spider shape. That's pretty neat.
>Used Reaper then Wanderer purely for comfy movesets>Refused to use tools>Refused to use silk skills>Just used Quick Bind + Bonus Heal and smashed basic attackTrue gaming experience.
>>541959605
WHAT IS THIS WHY STAG SHIT SERIOUSLY IM MALDING. AND THAT RUNBACK HOLY
>>541963562Multibinder + Injector bands feels so good
>>541963562>Refused to use tools>used tools
nice
You know what. Im getting pretty sick and tired of going into memories bro.
>catching baby Judges with Snare SetterThe children yearn for the landmines
>>541967102how are niggas so shit? it's 100x easier than in silksong
heehee i love it when she does her floaty thing
>>541967086I meant the cringe kind that cost ammo not charms.>Have profound hatred for consumables>Anything that isn't infinite use or doesn't fully reset on death/resting is worthless to meI had max shards all game and still had the lingering thought if I started using tools I'd get hard stuck somewhere and be forced to grind for ammo.
I hate literally everything about that faggot new verdania kingdom. Prince rots in a cell from now on
Man Shaman having to heal on thee ground kind of really screws you against LL
>>541970512It's the only thing holding it back from being the strongest crest
>>541887030It's easier for people to pick up on half the cast being foils for Hornet in some way or another when they're women. And god knows the average gamer needs the help.
>>541888207She needed a blunt reminder to live in the moment more instead of getting stuck on the big picture like her dad. Honestly with the wishes she spent the whole game getting that point driven home.
>>541970512You should watch how some speedruns handle that fight, its actually not a problem once you learn her windows.
>>541887030Specifically to trigger chuds and make them insecure about playing a woke game.
>Gay Incestuous Mantis Brothers>True end can be interpreted as an Awesome Lesbian Couple momentSave us with your heterosexual relationship Plinney!
>>541928315Why do they get consumed anyway? Was the spell more draining than they thought or did they get flashbanged to death by the flower?
>>541977974Given how they used up a lot of power to do the Snare not too long ago for Hornet, they probably had to dip deeper, the deeper being sacrificing their physical forms for power
>>541977974Could be either, could be both. Depends on whether snails are Void.
>>541949696Once for the ending where you clear it, once for the ending where you gave Godseeker a flower before clearing it.
>>541887030Garamond is right there Khann is right thereGroal is right thereBallow is right there
>>541887030>>541978739Sherma, Caretaker and Fleamaster are right there too.
>>541978846If Hornet was riding in the carriage, somebody had to drive off Moorwing
>>541978739you listed a bunch of cuckolds and dead men
>>541887030Because bugs aren’t reptiles or mammals with males jacked up on hormones for a competitive edge (minus a few beetles and crickets with big males that beat the shit out of each other or the few roaches and isopods where the males guard harems).>female insects and arachnids are often larger for carrying eggs at the cost of higher visibility to predators>in predatory insects and arachnids the males are often smaller for increased mobility to find females and the ability to subsist on more common small prey>in ants, bees etc queens are larger than workers and many are big enough to bite enemy workers in halfEither that or Team Cherry just threw as much rule34 bait at the wall as they could because they really like bugs.
>>541981464Nah man Ballow definitely fucks. Find you a woman who giggles at you the way Forge Daughter giggles at everything Ballow says.
>>541981990She's probably his sister. Dude is a citadel cucks who works 24/7, this is like saying Loam fucks.
>>541981464Being dead doesn't take away from Garamond's coolness
The timeline regarding the weavers is a bit confusing to me. They become "top guys" for GMS after being uplifted, and apparently help her rule and do all her domination type stuff over other bugs. At some point the relationship sours and they turn on their creator-god. This is where they do the big takeover and settle all the "UFO spaceship" type nests and where they get all the weird tech and robots? And eventually either the binding breaks or they want to leave and it breaks? After that the citadel runs on other lieutenants and top dogs that have their own corrupted version of keeping the peace, but GMS comes back and does much of the same? That latter timeline is diffuse to me. Seems like the act of infusing silk into people and working them to the bone, getting immortality etc is something of an established practice since before - maybe even since the time of GMS? Its hard to figure out which faction is responsible for what, or if they all did their own contributions to the larger "citadel project". GMS waking up appears to have limited effect on actual policies however, that much is certain.
>>541982068There's no way that nothing happened when they go to the sauna together.
>>541984648Work gf/work bf makes sense to me
>>541983063>They become "top guys" for GMS after being uplifted, and apparently help her rule and do all her domination type stuff over other bugs.Yeah that's about right, Khann probably died in this era since his fighting against pale light line probably means GMS was personally taking the field.>At some point the relationship sours and they turn on their creator-god. This is where they do the big takeover and settle all the "UFO spaceship" type nests and where they get all the weird tech and robots? And eventually either the binding breaks or they want to leave and it breaks? They continue advancing in tech but their population declines because either they got cursed with infertility or GMS was constantly making new Weavers to keep the population up. So to replace that they set up the Citadel as a gigantic music box for her and tell the Conductors it's their problem now while they all flee the island of Pharloom for whatever hidey holes they can find.>but GMS comes back and does much of the same? She had an increasingly large chunk of influence via the silk they all relied on, hence Ballador telling you that Pharloom has only ever truly had one ruler. Even when "asleep" she's still awake enough to direct things.>GMS waking up appears to have limited effect on actual policies however, that much is certain.One of the themes in the game is that the cycle of abuse is a bitch to shake so yeah the Weavers and their system really weren't as different from GMS as they'd have liked.
>>541887030who gives a shit
>>541887030because birth, motherhood, and the value (really the lackthereof) of preconceived destinies are all massive themes in the game that you are presumably too dumb to pick up on anon, try to keep up
>>541981610>or Team Cherry just threw as much rule34 bait at the wall as they couldThey 100% did but it's funny to see Twitter feminists think that Hornet being "sexualized" is going to lead to rape and femicide IRL
The theme of "overbearing, controlling maternal love" being significantly worse than patriarchal structure and domination seems clear, based on the differences and similarities of Hallownest and Pharloom.
>>541978739Honest to god can't even remember who Ballow is.
>>541990246both games are meditations on the nature of destiny. If you have any media literacy what you SHOULD be taking away from the gestalt of both games is that it's immensely cruel to create a being to serve a specific purpose, and that doing so will always result in failure and tragedy. The Vessels were never hollow and never truly could be, the Weavers could never love GMS the way she wanted them to, and Lace could never be the daughter she was made to be. In trying to fulfill their purposes they failed and brought the delicate structures built on their backs crashing down into ruins. Only by rejecting her given fate(s) as both a pale being and weaver queen and forging a new path can Hornet truly break the sickness that has befallen Pharloom and save it from ruin.
>>541990246That one is less down to patriarchy and more down to the Pale King being real big on his subjects being independent.
>>541990718Eh. He makes it clear that one is to obey the laws, there's pain of death (threatened) upon leaving, and there's plenty of soldiers and guardsmen everywhere. He brought a certain cold civilization everywhere, like the deepnest. Only difference is that he spared the minor kingdoms and tribes from assimilation. >>541990661I was being facetious. Pale King fundamentally misunderstood/misjudged basic facets of life and the world, and therefore lost his kingdom. Primarily regarding Radiance, the dream world and so on, but also, as you point out, the whole Vessel project - its feasibility overall, and the idea that Vessels had no emotion/soul and therefore would be protected from harm. And the bitter conclusion that it was himself that had somehow tainted the Hollow Knight when this plan failed, also a faulty conclusion. Still, when it ran, Hallownest ran better than Pharloom ever did. They managed to avoid the chattel slavery and the "silk bondage" that is prevalent in Pharloom, which strikes me as a serious crime.
>>541992941>there's pain of death (threatened) upon leavingHonestly wonder the full details on what is going on there, on one hand you've got all those guys coming from outside the kingdom just fine but on the other you've got the cliffs of instant braindeath saying that he wasn't kidding about granting minds.
>>541992941I think we learned about little from Silk song that pale being inherently desire control and if they can't get it peacefully they'll gladly just take it . It's stated the Plae king as Wrym had some level of precognition i have to wonder now if he knew pushing the Raidance out of worship would inevitably lead to retaliation but his nature lead him to do so anyway
>>541994386Was it ever fully stated that the Pale King could actually see the future? Or was him having "foresight" just a way to say that he was smart enough to think incredibly far ahead and plan for potential possibilities?
>>541994386Yeah but Pale King never tried to dominate and control his subjects to the degree that GMS has done. Its entirely "soft power" compared to GMS' system, with sickening medical experiments, putting her essence in every single biological creature in her domain and puppeting them until they expire, only to have her minions jump start their worn bug bodies to keep going even after death. It's way beyond the pale, even for God beings.
Family meeting
>>541994660>with sickening medical experiments, putting her essence in every single biological creature in her domain and puppeting them until they expire, only to have her minions jump start their worn bug bodies to keep going even after death.Anon, that was the conductors, who do you think the unravelled is?
>>541994386>I think we learned about little from Silk song that pale being inherently desire controlBut then that's an impulse that they can and will ignore, it's not some hard coded rule. >>541994637Yes. The mushroom giant asks what good is it to see an unavoidable future and Bardoon is explicit about Wyrms having precog.
>>541995345This is so much power in a single image. They can take over cities with this strength.
>>541995441Who supplies the silk making all of this possible? Who keeps on using bug corpses, pushing them long past their limits? Every single ruler, including Weavers, simply built upon the foundation set by GMS. And GMS is exploiting the saturation of silk on every creature to do her bidding by game's start. Its a sickening degree of control, compared to the Pale King. That's my point.
>>541995441Admittedly GMS had an ambiguous level of control over them even before the mass haunting kicked off. They weren't building top of the line mechs with instructions to hunt down any Haunted bugs on an idle whim.Speaking of the Sentinels, why did they disassemble them but then put the fragments in respected places rather than destroy them? It feels like a really indecisive approach to getting rid of the anti-Haunting bots.
>>541995450>it's not some hard coded rule.Not that Anon, but I assume some impulses are hard to ignore. What if it's like how sex is for a human? Can one really say "Humans have sexual impulses, but they can ignore it"? How long can they fight it? Some humans are mentally weaker than others as well.>>541995786>Its a sickening degree of controlnta. Do you really think GMS "let" the weavers rebel, and put her to sleep on purpose? All so she could achieve this outcome?
>>541996146>nta. Do you really think GMS "let" the weavers rebel, and put her to sleep on purpose? All so she could achieve this outcome?nta but I assume she had zero self-awareness about why the weavers rebelled and decided to double down on controlling everything.
>>541996146Weavers were much, much more powerful than any other bug race currently in existence in Pharloom. They had much of the same essence and creation powers as GMS had. Hence, why her control over them was lesser, and that they had the ability to rebel. Which is also why they were hunted down and made examples of. Any subsequent "lieutenant" race were much more pliable and easier to control. Simply due to not being uplifted and lacking silk manipulation magic
>>541996286>>541996235They why blame GMS for the medical experiments, rather than the conductors? Wasn't she asleep at the time?
>>541996489Those experiments cannot be done in a vacuum. And it's not like the entire thing is stopped. GMS is both micromanaging individual bugs, as well as not giving a fuck about the larger picture. These practices are not punished. They can do what they want, she doesn't care. An ultimate authority in this country, and these are the things her minions are up to. Yeah, she's responsible. She has the authority. SHE put her threads into every single being in that land. She did it all.
>>541995345This is so incredibly cute.
My preferred interpretation of Higher Beings is that they do not care at all about the machinations of lower beings. There might be a nudge here, a wink there, a kind word whose meaning isn't entirely clear, but overall they operate on timescales that render their own motivations completely obscure to mortals and vice versa, the day to day lives of regular bugs mean nothing to them. I prefer to imagine GMS as a godlike being who elevated Pharlids because she wanted daughters and then everything that happened after that was completely irrelevant to her. Like she didn't write a tax policy for Pharloom and she didn't read monthly reports from Conductors.Perhaps the most irritating counterexample to this is the Pale King, who did seem to care about grounded matters. One might argue this is because he shed his Wyrm form to become mortal.
>>541997639That's definitely just your preferences rather than the actual direction Team Cherry goes with higher beings.
>>541997639>My preferred interpretation of Higher Beings is that they do not care at all about the machinations of lower beings.No.>they operate on timescales that render their own motivations completely obscure to mortals and vice versa, the day to day lives of regular bugs mean nothing to them.But yes.If you have an immortal being with incredible power that cares about the creatures below it and wants them to live happy and prosperous lives, they might be willing to do things in order to create that world that lesser creatures might find horrific due to their shortsightedness. For example 100 years of pain and misery might seem like a lot to a lesser being, but to a higher one? That's a small price in the grander scheme of things if it's all it would take to create one million years of prosperity.The Pale King clearly did an incredible amount of work in order to create the perfect kingdom for his people, but was incredibly cold and distant while doing so because he was simply acting and thinking on a entirely different level to them.In other words. No cost too great.
>>541998357And promptly got punched in the dick repeatedly by life for going big picture only. There's a reason Hornet has to learn to appreciate the little guys to even unlock act 3.
>>541998446I know, I know, I'm just telling it how it is.
>>541996235>nta but I assume she had zero self-awareness about why the weavers rebelled and decided to double down on controlling everything.The weavers betrayal i think really fucked her up there's a lot pointing to the idea that the lie she told them about their orgin was less for control and more out of a desire for family this is why she made Lace and Phantom she wanted new daughters but the weavers made her weary of further betrayal so decided to create them entirely from silk. But the two of them weren't perfect Phantom I assume came first but she was mortal and would eventually die and Lace is mentally stunted GMS failing to even now to make them proper daughters is probably also why she was so distant with them. And then in the end GMS gives what little of her is left to save Lace one last tragedy she loved her daughters but wasn't evee able to show it properly till the day she died
>>541953259All hearts are obtainable, even after you deliver 3 of them for the quest
>>541954768That's a different thing because 100%ing requires going out of your way to find every single collectible and shit, I'll finish the game but won't get 100% either because I'm not a completionist
Has anyone interpreted Moss Druid's ramblings yet? Is she talking about a new Nyleth equivalent being born when she talks about the little one in her visions?
what did GMS actually dowasn't she just asleep in her ball of silk for centurieswho actually runs the citadel
>>542000010>who actually runs the citadelMother Silk, being asleep and being awake enough to puppeteer everything are not mutually exclusive for a higher being.
>>542000010The weavers did for a time before realizing mom would wake up pissed and then rge conductors did until the haunting got worse
Do you think the next game will again be about a god in decline desperate to not be forgotten fucking things up for mortals
Getting a mod that changes contact damage to only 1 mask and I don't care if that makes me a faggot shitter who didnt beat the gameTaking so much damage because you touched the boss' pinky finger is absolute bullshit
>>542000910Not sure as dumb as it sounds even though Mr Mushroom is kind of a joke i feel like they're gonna turn it on its head reveal the whole passing of the age thing is legit and refer to the world of Hollow knight leaving behind God's and mortal bugs. I think Hornet rejecting proper god hood is meant to be sign of the start of that? Entirely speculation and I'm partially basing this on the fact Hornet takes his quest very seriously
>Getting a mod that changes contact damage to only 1 maskohnonono
>>542001265If you didn't care, you wouldn't have written this post.
dark souls should take a page from hollow knight's book and add contact damage to all their games from now on
>>542001330Actually after looking back at some of his dialog from HK it's intresting the stuff he has to say in deep nest seems to him recalling a conversation with spiders about an upcoming brood i wonder if that's why Hornet can understand him /recognize him?
Naaaaaao
>>542007110I need a mod that changes all of hornet’s challenges from garama to naaaaoooo so she’s just going around annoying people into fighting her
>>542004140Some enemies do have contact damage. Haven’t you ever played Dark Souls?
>>542007110>>542007952when does she actually say naoo?
>>542008762NAAAAOOOOO
Seen alot of different guesses as to why GMS was tracking the weavers down i think this is an interesting interpretation https://x.com/Dinosaurkl2/status/1975749355966476343?s=19
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZUDJ1JaAzbEbest voice
I like the beast crest taunt. She sounds super chuuni
DSP first tried first sinneryou guys are better gamers than dsp, right?
I still find it so weird that of all the bosses in the game TC decided to nerf Moorwing and Sister Splinter
>>542010574>First tries one of the only bosses that rewards "unga bunga run in and hit things" playShocking
>>542010710Who got hit by the sawblades anyway? Moorwing is super simple. But fun. I want to replay Moorwing
>>541995345>knight is the only child not feeling awkward because he literally doesn't have feelings as he's hollower than the hollow knightlol
I can get past LL's first phase no problem, 2nd phase is tricky but doable, once 3rd phase starts I have literally no idea what's going on and what to do
>>542011114third phase is second phase with one new attack, are you struggling with that one? just double jump and clawline over it
>>542010710>Sister Splintersister has obnoxious, hard to read hitbox, it's easy to misjudge a jump and eat contact damage, or walk an get contact damage while trying to hit her on the ground, and the adds are literally immune while they do their spin attack, which they spam a lot, it's not particularly hard but dying to contact damage form being cornered by an immune flying spawn feels cheap as fuck>Moorwingidk about this one either, feels like half the frustration comes from the runback, maybe it was intended as a midboss, with not much importance and so they nerfed it to reflect that
>>542011343I'm struggling with seeing what the fuck is happening when the entire screen is covered in black on black particles and effects with an enemy that's also black
>>542011114>>542011343it's more than 1 new attack though, every previous attack now spams tentacles from below, that's the tricky part, you are already used to her patterns but now you have to readjust to tentacles on the floor after every move
>>542011114I was just dodging and spamming pale nails at the end.
>>542011471>Moorwing runbackIt's literally just two empty screens.
wisp ticket should have been bigger
Also her parry counter has such a retarded hitbox it's not even funny. It will pull you into it even when visually you are well clear from the attack, hell it even literally teleported me into her weapon once when I jumped and dashed over it trying to get behind her and touched her headThat one move is busted as fuck
Is there anything i have to do before i descend into the void after aquiring the 4 hearts and grabbing the flower?
>>542010574Lmao no way he did gimmie a link I have to see this
>>542012528It's really not that hard to dodge but i actually do agree her repost should not have the weird vacuum affect they should have just made the animation longer to properly reflect it cone of damage .
>>542012713Nope nothing you get locked out of if that's what you mean
>>542012713You can go back up.
>>542012528Parry her parry and give her a taste of her own moves.
>>542013329giving her a taste of her moves would mean taking 20% of her health on contact and input reading every single thing she does
>>542012753https://youtu.be/QHYcLQcVEbY?t=2197ok I lied for shock value, it was 2 tries maybe, idk, it's a compilation video
>>542013470With how much every boss telegraphs, you already do input read them.
>>542013606Ha fair that's still less trys then I took. ill cope and say it was his retard aura luck lol
Well I can get to phase 3 somewhat consistently now so I guess that's progressBut anyway why does mommy silk have such a fat ass
>>542014659Because she's supposed to be a spider.
Why do you think Phantom wears a mask? Is it because her face is falling apart or some act of defiance against her mother?
>>542015678because literally every single bug in the game wears a mask?
>>542016147then why lace doesn't?
>>542015678I doubt it's defiance. In fact, I don't see why she would be defying her in the first place.As for why, Idk if it's ever explained. It's possible TC never gave it a backstory and just wanted it to be like what it was inspired from:>With a shattered mask, and an affinity for the organ, it is very likely that this boss' design was inspired by Andrew Lloyd Webber's classic Broadway production, "The Phantom of The Opera". >This is further supported by the fact that Phantom's theme is named "Phantom of the Organ" in the game's files.>>542016147Lace doesn't? They're also both not bugs?
>So your body is worthless to us now, so we're going to painfully extract your soul and use it for something else.>I get to help the citadel with something important even in death?>You're going into a lamp that lights a rarely used hallway.
>>542014659I'M SO FUCKING CLOSE BUT SOONER OR LATER SHE ALWAYS GETS ME IN PHASE 4THERE'S SO MUCH SHIT ON SCREEN I LITERALLY CAN'T EVEN SEE WHERE SHE ISFUCK
so, I've got the full white mask now in HK1. Where am I supposed to go now? so tired of this cryptic bullshit, million times worse than HK2.
>>541977124His cutscenes trigger my ASMR. Very nice.
>>542017904Do you have wings? Go do Hornet in Kingdom's Edge and get the King's Brand. That opens up the door with the same icon in Ancient Basin that leads to your birthplace.You can google this you know, HK1's been out for 7 years. And it's not like Silksong isn't guilty of the same sin. The majority of the playerbase don't know how to enter Act 3 or that it exists at all because the requirements are so vague and unexplained.
>>542012102>It's literally just two empty screens.I still saw a bunch of shitters complaining about it when the game came out
>>541990515
>>542021020>relevant, strong and cool or admirable character >guy who operates a lift
>>542020090already done all that birth place ended up being in a fucking abyss, in just a randomly opened floor path that was never there nor was there any sign that it was there before hand I got to act 3 by just playing normally, didn't even have to look up anything
>>542021416He's the only guy in the kingdom who can fix and operate the diving bell, without which Hornet couldn't have dived to the abyss to fix everything. Literally the most important character in the whole story.
Lost lace is somin else when you dont have enough practice at it. Can barely see shit. At least after 1 hour i pushed her to phase 3 where seeing shit is even harder
>>542021875>birth place ended up being in a fucking abysswas this surprising to you?
Failed Champion. Traitor Lord.The Hollow Knight. Radiance. 4 bosses.Compare that to Silksong. Bell Beast, Fourth Chorus, Moorwing, Sister Splinter, Last Judge,Skull Tyrant, Savage Beastfly, Broodmother Cogwork Dancers, Trobbio, The Unraveled, Groal the Great, Lugoli,Great Conchfly, Raging Conchfly, Shakra, Lace, Grandmother Silk, Lost Lace, Karmelita, Nyleth, Khann, Bell Eater, Tormented Trobbio, and more.
>>542022889huh?
what if Lace's anime laugh is actually crying
>>542023263what if it all was just a dream hornet had while being stuck inside the black egg
>>542023041Bosses that do two masks of damage. Silksong does not know how to chill out.
>>542023532two masks of damage has nothing to do with bosses in silksong though? most normal enemies and some hazards also do that much damage
What if after loss you take at Lost Lace the flower withers more and more until you have 1 petal left. The game then takes you automatically into Steel Soul mode.
>>542021875Silksong still has things so obscure that you were never going to find without searching. Voltnest, Watcher at the Edge, Wisp Thicket, and The Unravelled being prime examples.>>542010710Sister Splinter got her attack speed slowed down according to a datamine but I barely even noticed. The adds weren't a problem because Silkspear and Thread Storm both oneshot them and the vines, but people are too greedy and only use silk for heals.
>>542023628Yeah. Neither should they. It's ridiculous how everyone and their mother can now deal double damage now.
>>542024115TC made this game not for HK casuals but for HK lunatics who wanted more of everything including more difficulty, more pain and more bullshit. That's just how it is and you either embrace it or get a mod that reduces contact damage to 1
>>542024432I did get the mod. I had my pain with Absolute Radiance, no more.
>>542024809The only mod I've got is one that removes shard costs from tool refillsFuck that dumb economy they put in this game
>>542023532Don't forget GMS and LL have a 3 mask damage moveHell LL can sometimes catch you with a quick 2 move combo and nuke 4 masks in the blink of an eye, technically it's not a single 4 mask attack but it may as well be
Where is a good place to farm for shards in act 2? I know people like to farm the big dudes near the dancers for rosaries but I don’t know where to get shards. These bosses drain my tool supply.Do I just farm rosaries and buy shards bundles or what?
>>542025724farming rosaries with thief's mark is much faster than any shard farming you could do with shard pendant
>>542025724>Do I just farm rosaries and buy shards bundles or what?yes. farming the big guys while wearing the thief's mark is the best shard farm
>>542025724>Do I just farm rosaries and buy shards bundles or what?yep
>>542025724>Do I just farm rosaries and buy shards bundles or what?Yes. Shards are basically impossible to farm in the wildAlso look up Beast Shards, but there's only a handful of those and farming rosaries to buy bundles is easier
>>542023824sure, but not the ending to the game at least in my playthrough
>>542023824>but people are too greedy and only use silk for heals.Which is incentivized by heals being so expensive that in the early and mid game using a silk skill twice or even just once can remove your ability to heal
Somehow karmelita gave me more trouble than LL to the point that I resorted to stay in the air above her and letting poison tools slowly kill her for me, whereas with LL I can actually see the way to kill her
>>541945693I don't think it's happening. Just wasted an hour dying in sinner road like a fucking retard. Don't remember it being this hard last time. I guess all the upgrades really matter huh..
>>541808009idk why, but this image made me think of this one. ...and now I desperately need a Punished Hornet as Guts with an oversized needle.
>>541887030I like playing as female characters.
>>542016147Untrue some bugs abstain pretty much any bug where you can see the white eyes on black is not wearing a mask in in particular.
>>541995345What an insanely powerful image
>>542014659>Fighting LL for the first time and get to this phase>Lose because distracted by GMS' curvesWh-TECHNICAL FOUL THAT'S NOT FAIR
>>542015678I think it's because she's literally falling apart
>>541963910Ram attack
>>542027703Sometimes I wish using different crests had more visual changes. but then that would be a nightmare having to create different frames for every single crest. though art that I've seen of crests seem to have the same idea>Hunter: Default needle>Reaper: Scythe>Beast: Either claw weapons or a serrated blade/sawtooth>Wanderer: Daggers or just the Ghost's nail>Witch: Blade whip>Shaman: Greatsword or just a magic needle>Architect: Mechanical drill
>>542000007
What's up with this game that keeps me playing? It is a many-year-hype? Is it the atmosphere? Is it fluid controls where you never feel like it's struggling against you? For other games when I find something frustrating I just close the game and come back months later. For this game I just keep playing, re-trying over and over again. And neither I get bored and go do something else (like how I do with other games), this game keeps me focused on it.There's something magical in it.
>>542032685They would all have to be derivative of her needle. That's her whole thing, her trademark.
>>542016809If you're you get to power a robot
>>542015678I assume Phantom was like Lace and didn’t need a mask, but took one from a dead bug and wore it for usual bug mask lore reasons like mind and identity. Might have needed something extra like a mortal bug would as that silk body started fraying.
>>542016809>he didn't get his soul transplanted into an automatonSkill issue I'm afraid
>>542026843Yeah, Karmelita is harder than LL. The hardest boss in the game for some.
Ttips or strats for Karmelita? I'm getting floored. And this is coming from somebody who struggled the most with broodmother, but found most of all the other bosses fairly easy, if challenging, after learning their moveset.
>>542015678
>>542034262If you want a cheese strat, dump poison tacks and sting shards on the arena plus cogflies then stay high in the air by double jumping off the walls from one side to the other, she can't touch you there and she'll die eventuallyIf you want to kill her the legit way I can't help you, I'm a shitter
>>542032685"Naked" crest have visual changes
>>542034110Soul doesn't control automaton. Automaton controls the soul.
If they make THK the protag for the third game, it'd be cool if he starts as a one-armed swordsman that later gets a prosthetic. They could do something like the crest system where he has different prosthetics that give him different movesets and attacks
>>542034884I only cheese bullshit bosses like broodmother. I like to do it honorably, even if it takes me hours. And besides, she deserves that much.
>>542034906That's right I forgot
>>542033478I think it's because everything in the game is unique, even for background props that you see multiple times, they are redrawn each time, it's a handcrafted world, which, doesn't necessary add any depth to it, but it compels one to see all that the game has to offer just for the sake of seeing it
>>542032685How about displaying all equipped tools on character? Both red and yellow/blue ones. Terraria does that, but I guess pixel art makes it easier.
>>542033478Nah, it's just abuse. With actual fun games there's the feeling of>*beats boss*>"wow that was fun. Let's see what else this game has and keep this party going">*continues to play*With Silksong, it's so punishing and tedious, that the happiness comes from it being finally over, and that high allows one to play more.>*beats boss*>"Aaaahhh. FINALLY. Finally that sh*t is done. No more of that pointless run back or meticulously waiting for the opening the boss gives. F*ck yeah.">"Well, now that the worse is over, I feel better and calmer now. Guess I'll continue and see what the rest of the game is like.">*continues to play*Silksong isn't happiness from doing something fun, but relief from finally finishing something unpleasant. You can't stop playing 'cause that relief is enough to get you to play more and because you're a prideful gamer that wants that "100% completion" on your wall.Once you finally get it, you'll probably lose all motivation to play any more. That's what happened to me. If it was fun, one would play it again for more fun, but there's only relief and a sense of accomplishment there.
>>542035282I felt Broodmother was reasonable though. Easy to read attacks, and to dodge. I only cheesed Groal and Unravelled.
>>542035982Eh, I discovered that Reaper and Wanderer with Druid Eyes and blue tools that affect binding makes this game pretty easy (using tools makes bosses harder, imo, due to all the visual clutter, and I don't have enough mental capacity to use like five different methods of attack all in the same fight anyway, so I keep their use to a minimum). The only issue was Act 3's overall atmosphere, it was pretty disheartening. The game even tells you multiple times to stop stalling and just get over it via NPC dialogues.
>>542036372Groal's a very honest boss tho
>>542036372Well I'm definitely getting better at her now. Made it her phase 3 before faceplanting. It's just a slow process to get in 1 or two hits at a time, while maybe throwing some bombs and my needle spear, until she gets stunned and then I try to get in as many hits as I can with my wanderer crest, hoping for a couple crits.Imma get it I think.
>>542036736Ganbatte, Anon!
I got a lot farther than I ever thought I would, but this game is just way too hard. Think I'm finally ready to shelve it.Courier quests and the lava fields beastfly just seem way more monotonous than they're worth for the amount of fun I'm having.Can't see any other way to progress than to fight the Dancers, so unless I just do that and ignore this side content, I think that's about it for my playthrough.
>>542036736Holy shit, I actually beat her. Damn, she wasn't as bad as I initially thought. Broodmother is still the worst. I must have died to her like a hundred times. Only took me like 10 or 12 tries. I noticed that with Karmelita, her whole shtick is she's a dancer, and so you have to dance with her. You can't be idle. I just kept flowing around her and landed my hits, reading her direction and going opposite.Damn, people really struggled this much with her? Definitely a worthy opponent though. RIP kween.Now off to face the Crusty Kang.
Would you love a broken fanatic?
>>542038165have you tried taking a break?
>>542038284her attack voice lines sound a bit like she's calling you murderer
>>542038271>Now off to face the Crusty KangQuestion for you before you go off to fight Shao KhannDid you get the shortcut?
>>542038408Actually I just had to stop playing for almost a week because I was sick. It's my first day back.I think I just don't like this game very much. It's too hard.
>>542038573Shortcut? As in for the runback? No, I don't think so. All I know is, after him, unless this is actual endgame right here, I know that I'm still missing a couple bosses, despite absolutely scouring the entire map. I know I haven't found First Sinner, and Mr. Mushroom, and I think 1 or 2 others. I'm just a completionist at heart, so I wanna make sure I find everything.
>>542038529BRAZAA
>>542038734>No, I don't think soOh so you haven't gone over there yet!Have fun
>>542038957Are you talking about Sands of Karak? Yeah I've explored the whole area.
>>542039054No I'm talking about KhannYou'll understand later
>>542038271>Broodmother is still the worst. I must have died to her like a hundred times.I'm not so good a player, but I don't think I quite understand why she's hard for others. What about makes her hard fro you?>Holy shit, I actually beat her.>Damn, people really struggled this much with her?I'm not sure if you can say both these things together...>>542038585>I think I just don't like this game very much. It's too hard.Understandable.>>542038734Just don't forget to unlock the shortcut after the third. (You'll know what this means when the time comes). Some people miss it 'cause it might not be so obvious.
why does first sinner wear a fabulous sexy dressbitch you're in prison
>>542039116ahhh, well fuck. Guess I'll see what bullshit comes my way this time. But it won't stop me. I am nothing if not persistent. But that will be a later me problem. >>542039229>I'm not sure if you can say both these things together...Yeah, I guess not...but still, Broodmother's fly and slime spam was aggravating me beyond measure, and to work in that confined space was abysmal. I need room to maneuver. I got that in ample supply with Karmalita.
>>542039424>But that will be a later me problem.just remember to take breaks and have funthis image will make sense later
>>542039789I've 100% the game, and I don't know what this is a reference to.
>>542040072It's just a reference to the fantastic 4 cover. Because Silksong came out on the 4th
>>542040310
>>542038165>Courier questsOnly Courier's Rasher and Queen's Egg are worth doing. They don't count for 100%, anyway.
>>542040451What?
>>542038165>Courier questsThe only one you should do is the rasher and the queens egg. The rest are just for rosaries
>>542040825just my honest reaction to the joke
>>542039229>What about makes her hard fro you?Big fat thing with double contact damage jumping all over the place. Lugoli also was hard for the same reason.Exploding adds don't help.
>>542040817>>542041000Rasher is what I'm looking at.I'm atbthe point in act 2 where, as fsr as I can tell, all I have to do are Rasher, Dancers, and Beastfly and... I really just don't want to.
>>542043228>DancersDancers are the beginning of the Act 2, tho.
