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>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
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>Thread Question
Thoughts on Fallout 2?
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What will black science woman's cuckoldry be in Dark Heresy?
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Starfinder Afterlight has unlocked 2 more furry races
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>>541806729
Starfinder seems freakier already
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>>541806729
>Quirky notGobbo race
>Catfolk that far
Heh
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Yrliet just flew over my house
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literally what is the appeal of Guardians of the Galaxy but with more furries
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>kingmaker was a retelling of War and Peace
>wrath was a retelling of The Death of Ivan Ilyich
>rogue trader was a retelling of How Much Land Does a Man Need?
Which Tolstoy book will dark heresy be a reimagining of?
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>>541807332
Meds, /lit/ midwit
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>we need more xenofucker crpgs
>nooooooo not like that
Can never satisfy you fags
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>>541807332
You have never read these books.
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>>541807460
They want multi-coloured women.
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>>541806643
In the same cutscene where she talks about her sexual history clinically, she will grab a magnifying glass and say she can't find it.
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>Thread Question
Despite the screenshot in the OP, I believe the developers had a very outsider-looking-in perspective on Fallouts 1 and 2 (and other games from that era from Bioware, Black Isle and Interplay).

In a previous thread I made the mistake of calling this perspective a libertarian one, I don't think that's quite accurate, even if I feel tempted to name it so, and I wasn't impressed by the politics-brained types that were summoned by doing so.

This sober perspective on factions, groups, tribes, and other individuals makes for better game design in general, because it allows the player to remain an independent individual amongst all the things he faces and that reflects the passage through life everyone takes if they're not burdened by illusions and shadows.

You can still join things like the Brotherhood of Steel, of course, but I always got the impression you weren't really supposed to throw in with factions except in order to gain something out of them.
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>>541807820
get a personality that doesn't involve talking about real life politics in the context of video games
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Do you prefer top-down CRPGs or third-person CRPGs?
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>>541806729
Can't wait to play as that little green guy and get my hypercock sucked by the android lady
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If underrail is so good why is there no underrail likes?
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>>541807332
>wrath was a retelling of The Death of Ivan Ilyich
retard
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I'm not a fan of Cam but at least the smooch anon stuck with her for years
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>>541808501
>overmuch
>straightaway
ESL moment
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>>541808756
What? Don't tell me you don't know those are actual words?
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>>541808858
Shutthefuckup
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The biggest twist in Expanse?
Regina's name backwards.
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>>541807460
I want aliens not blue people and furries
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This blackguard has been overwrought for a fortnight
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The only race that I am racist against is the Wild Hunt.
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>Kingmaker was a retelling of The Brothers Karamazov
>Wrath was a retelling of Demons
>Rogue Trader was a retelling of The Landlady
What Dostoyevsky book will Dark heresy be a retelling of? My Guess is Crime and punishment, the main twist villain will be corrupt chaos inquisitiors that you end up killing for their crimes.
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>>541809298
ekun...
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>>541809298
A elf tiefling?
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>"I'm not obsessed, but I will painstakingly recreate this Temple of this Goddess I hate"

He reminds me of some of the people you encounter in this website.
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>a coon, dayo
What did Owlcat mean by this?
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>can't get redeemed staunton
Holy owlkek moment.
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What buffs do you want to stack on a non-psyker melee build?
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>>541809298
In what setting? Wild hunt in witcher are pretty based.
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>>541809127
Jesse, what the FUCK are you talking about?
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>>541810367
Pathfinder: Kingmaker. They appear towards the end of the game and are just all around assholes to fight.
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>>541810206
This really would've been a better companion than most that you do get. It shouldn't even be locked behind any mythic path, you should just be allowed to turn him somehow after defeating him in Drezen and making the right dialogue choices in previous acts.
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>>541810206
in act 5 he defends the flag in iz. thats about it
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Seriously why is jae a romance option? Who is she meant to appeal to?
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>>541810367
They're still based in Kingmaker, its just Owlcat deemed it to be quality content to make you fight endless groups of them through overlong dungeons for the finale.
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>>541811053
Heterosexuals
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>>541811053
>What if Han Solo but female
Its just genderswapping tropes that this generation of writers grew up saturated in.

Every bad idea in media writing and design today is a very obvious product of its time.
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>>541811053
men that play as women that enjoy cuckolding (this general)
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What is your favourite melee weapon?
I like the mace.
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>>541811053
"Sexy" rogue archetype. She has big boobs and is feminine so I think men were supposed to like her.
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>>541811245
>short and bogged face
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Every time I want to play Rogue Trader or BG3, I'm reminded how dogshit TB combat is, and how much of it there is. TB locked games are so fucking boring, and the ones that do get popular almost always tend to be popular for non-gameplay reasons. I shouldn't need gameplay that a geriatric ape could play, just to get a good story out of my games.
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>>541811690
umm but TB combat is the best
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>>541811690
Zoomer opinion
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>>541811053
Cucks
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does anyone have the RTWP vs TB meme
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>>541811690
It is odd that Owlcat didn't do the same thing they did with their previous games where you could swap between TB and Real Time.

There are way too many low-effort garbage battles to justify TB for each one.
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>>541812410
Game has specific powers and abilities that only make sense in turn based
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>>541811915
RTS and RTT are boomer genres. Zoomers didn't start buying into the genre until it was both TB dominated and insanely dumbed down.
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>>541811053
>>541811683
Just change her portrait and her romance immediately improved tenfold
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>>541813251
>Turned based RTS
Huh?
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>>541811053
>slutty brown gypsy good
>slutty space brown gypsy bad
Explain this double standard
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>>541812865
Didn't stop them from implementing Hexes and Cackle in WoTR.
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>>541813350
Isabela is great and her boobs ARE bigger
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>>541809298
>>541810367
>>541810930
>tfw no one in baron's party has Blind Fight
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>>541813407
Hexes and cackle operate on time based durations because that's how pathfinder works. The RT game has "extra turns" that can't be translated to RTWP
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Bloodlines 2 will be goty purely because of Lou's massive tits
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>>541813715
no can't wait for this garbage to come out
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>>541813413
>and her boobs ARE bigger
>>541813715
Men are such pathetic creatures.
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this is a kino genre of video game, one of the finest
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>>541791483
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>>541813892
Yeah let me go borrow the going into games machine from my uncle to fuck the dollies myself
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>>541813868
CRPGs are literally my 3rd favourite genre of video game.
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>>541813337
I've had some success doing this in WotR and Kingmaker but its not enough when the writing is as shitty as it is with Jae and the horrid accent is inescapable without muting her.
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>>541813661
Translate it into action speed. Very easy solution. Hexes and Cackle are more fucked up in real time than your problem with bonus turns.
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>>541813350
1 Calling Isabela good is a stretch, she's pretty bad
2 At least she has the decency to look hot
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>>541813350
One is annoying, the other is designed around appealing to a male audience.
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This is very niche, but, I like CRPGs, because, I can cheat and give myself max stats and max skills, and instead of the game being boring, I am opened to many many possibilities. I find this charming, like the devs cared. In an action game 'max health max damage' is enough to make the game boring. CRPGs are the only genre that even cheating is still interesting.
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Bioware had miles more cuckshit than Owlkek yet this general is mindbroken and makes up schizo headcanons about Owlcat, but ignores Bioware cuckshit
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>>541816124
Only biocuck shit is if you play as a female so it's deserved.
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>>541808071
>third-person CRPGs
the only ones I can think of are DAO (which also has isometric view) and TW1 (which is arguably not a crpg)
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I want to resume an old playthrough and finish pathfinder wotr, theres one small issue though im in the hell place where things a bit too 3d and I also wanted to advance my relationship with Camelia.
Is there a way in game to track if i've done everything with her in this place to advance to the next point in the story ?
Thank you.
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>>541813350
Where did isabella buy faketan and brown eye contacts?
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>>541816403
>theres one small issue though im in the hell place where things a bit too 3d
everything is camera based. just rotate the camera to move the walls and islands. ezpz

>Is there a way in game to track if i've done everything with her in this place to advance to the next point in the story ?
no, you'll need to use a save editor or the Toybox mod to check values like that.
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>>541816124
Because "people" here only really played Owlcat games as they are modern. You can probably still find posts from decades ago asking if Isabella does have STIs.
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>>541816680
Isabella is nothing like Val. You know from the jump that she's a selfish slut. If you choose to romance her that isn't cuck shit sprung outta nowhere to subvert your expectations it's your own shit taste.
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>>541816226
>Jacob Dunning-Kruger Taylor
Unironically the GOAT for that shit. FemShep players deserved nothing less.
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wtf is my druids problem? she starts an argument ever other night.
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>>541816920
Yea or having to have morrigan cuck them if they romanced allister if they want to live.
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>>541816430
why did you mod your game
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>>541815023
Hexes are just debuffs with a set time and cackle refreshes the time. How is that busted at all?
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>>541817060
Because i've it completed 3 times already vanilla. Why don't you? She's Whiter in vanilla but that's all on 360.
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>>541816124
You are absolutely mindbroken by shitposts.

Show us the list again, the one where Aerie falls for Haer'dalis.
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>>541816680
She does. She has Anders heal them!
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>>541816680
>>541816843
Isabella can also be tamed. You can put your foot down on her going with Zevran without seeming petty unlike Shadowheart's brothel scene. Until the DLC that is.
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>>541815023
That doesn't make any sense for RT, especially when the bonus turns usually have stipulations
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What's the best party to take into Cumrag from a narrative pov?
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i swear the main purpose of trickster runs should always be to piss off regill as much as possible
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A party size of 4 is ideal.
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>>541818387
fuck that I want all my niggas with me
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1.5 when
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>>541813854
lol titlet whore mad
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>>541818386
You saved Regill's life
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I lost my dolly...
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wtf is happening with total war why is volound winning again
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What's the best Eldritch Scion bloodline in Kingmaker? Dragon bloodlines seem to be made to get Dragon Disciple but I want to stay pure Magus.
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>>541822264
Abyssal gives you STR buffs and with the cornugon smash line of feats you can AOE fear everyone.
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>>541816976
my rogue is just some short jew that gets carried every battle. should have just did a bard instead of thinking it was too meta
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>>541822264
If not dragon then abyssal for the STR bonuses followed by undead if you want to be more tanky. The rest are pretty shit. If you're going pure Magus I'd just go for Abyssal.
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I remember picking a Cleric and being utterly overwhelmed at all of the different domains. How was I ever supposed to know which domain provided which spells?
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you pick domains for domain powers not spells. its just one spell slot you can spontaneously convert. they have some nice ones stealing from the mage school, but the only time i have ever, ever meaningfully needed a specific domain spell was 2e cleric of knowledge for identify so my sorcerer didnt have to waste a spell pick on it
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>>541823085
You read
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>>541818386
>fuck with regill to extend his lifespan by a century
Regill chads keep winning.
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I wanna smooch her.

>>541816403
>Is there a way in game to track if i've done everything with her in this place to advance to the next point in the story ?

Check your journal and see whether you have completed 'What Is Your Heart's Desire?'. That's Camellia's only quest in the Abyss. You also get a unique interaction if you're on the true romance path where she gives you a Bone Amulet, so check your inventory if you have it. The other romance related interaction occurs just as you're about to leave Alushinyrra, so you've yet to see that one, get ready because it's a dialogue mine field.
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dnd i always pick war for weapon focus and some good shit like enlarge and bulls strength

pathfinder war domain sucks, and they nerfed strength down to athletics checks so every one can be community cucks
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>>541824431
I've got 300 hours in RT and have never invited someone into the bath with me. It feels way too awkward. Am I missing out on anything interesting?
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>>541824713
Pasqal is hilarious
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>>541824713
No, its just cute little character things
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>>541821545
they blew all their money on hyenas and now take a year or longer to put out a dlc (they won't patch the game outside dlc releases)
factions literally do not work and just stand idle
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Why do you even have that
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>>541825360
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i noticed in game romances with evil women they at least have the decency not to mention all the past cock mileage they've had even if they are massive whores
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>Larian is making a space game
>Owlcat is making two space games
>the indie starfinder (space game) made several times it's kickstarter goal in an hour
I guess it's the time of the space games. I for one am fine with this.
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>>541825763
I'm not. Sci fi is filled with gunslop and that's boring.
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They should make another Shadowrun game.
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>>541825706
Whys it so small
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only natural since mass effect ended and bethsdian keeps releasing pure AAA grade garbage space shit
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Everyone will beat Owlcat to space elf pussy
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>>541825745
...
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>>541813350
>Creepy bug-eyed demon-worshipper who says she won't fall for a demon's bait while instant falling the second one promises her something during a quest.
>Womanizer rebel changed into a faggot terrorist.
>Gay sex-slave edgelord
>The straightest piece of stale bread in the country
Isabela was not good, every other romance was just that worse.
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>>541826061
Shadowrun is in IP corpo hell
its not happening sadly
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>>541826446
>>Womanizer rebel changed into a faggot terrorist.
Anders is such a funny character.
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>>541826446
I wish you could kill that faggot "justice"
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Where did biosloppa go so wrong...
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>>541826446
Fenris is good
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>>541827412
>Have the option to be caked in shit most of the time
What were they thinking here actually? It only really works for a couple of scenes if it makes sense.
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>>541827849
I like him as a character but I'm also a heterosexual man so I never played through his romance.
I tried playing DAO as a girl once just to get cucked in every way imaginable so I never bothered to try female runs again.
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>>541828639
Female romances don't work in RPGs since you're still the masculine chaser in the relationship. You need games built specifically for women for a worthwhile female romance instead of just men cooming to dykes.
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>>541807263
Was Marazhai with her?
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>>541828857
This train of thought is why Lann exists and look how that turned out.
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>>541829292
I can only imagine, since not only do I never take Lann but I also never make a female main character.
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>what if thing... LE SHIT???
Why are developoids mindbroken with making shit look retarded?
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>>541829292
Go ahead and tell the class AGP-kun.
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>>541792875
>entering her spirit stone late
>Is this romance specific?
Yeah it is. The ritual goes wrong, she calls out to you for help, and you dive into her mind-zone (which looks exactly like Janus with a blue filter) to save her.
Inside you see all her inner thoughts in the form of ghosts of her, thinking about you and going over all her mistakes, then come across her upset in the middle of a clearing.
You talk a bit, then the ancestors lurking in the trees notice you, a vile mon'keigh, penetrating the soul of this vulnerable autistic eldar maiden, and prepare to destroy you with xenos mind rays
She's like "nooo don't hurt my elantach" and shields you, then when you both wake up her spirit stone has been cracked by the ancestors' fury. The other eldars recoil from her in horror. It's a big part of the romance.
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>>541827209
Justice was a great character, though. DA2 really destroyed both him and Anders, neither one was written the way they were in their original appearances.
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>>541813350
>>slutty space brown gypsy
Jae is indian or some shit, it's not appealing
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>>541829735
Or you can just let her work everything out herself and reach a much better resolution for both her and your demesne. Letting the "romance" end there is the best choice you can make. Well, second best, since the actual best choice is killing Yrliet on Janus to begin with.
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>>541829974
>DA2 really destroyed both him and Anders, neither one was written the way they were in their original appearances.
DA2 jihadkino was really cool anders to do though
Total templar death, he singlehandedly mogs kirkwall
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>>541829710
Lann calls Seelah a nigger
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>>541830139
Yeah pretty much. You still get her working for you for half a century, then leaving amicably.
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>>541830158
>Total templar death
>Just blows up the Chantry
>Could've just walked in on the Templar HQ
>Somehow leaves Meredith
He had a shit plan and I'm not sure if this is good writing or not but you're character not questioning why he's asking you to collect saltpeter was pretty weird.
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I like yirlet because she calls idira a monkey



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