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Running Urn Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>541721095
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Sex with Ivy!!
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>>541819582
Why would you run the urn on Paige are you stupid?
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>>541819582
Paige's hairy logcutter makes me blow crazy loads on the daily
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erm where inhouse
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>>541820995
fippybippy

>>541821103
Scatfags into the woodchipper
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Sex with Abrams
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What are the small and big ticks on the alternative health bars respectively?
Looks like 100 and 500 but I'm unsure.
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>>541819324
i play a lot of sinclair and he's not bad at all.
his problems are
>bolt outside of lane is really difficult to hit especially late game when enemies are faster and have more mobility, in teamfights enemies will accidentally dodge it all the time
>really weak when you go on top of him or because his bolts need to travel for damage and you cant really use hex to escape because they gain movespeed
>cant play vs silence
>bolt bugging out fucking the targeting for no reason
>rabbits being too small so even if it gives damage amp, your idiotic gun carries will negate the damage amp by missing shots
>ult is a pointless ability if enemy team doesnt have good ults, even "good" ults (lash) are bad in practice because your kit has no synergy
>his kit lacks synergy with gun items so once you're maxed on spirit he has no good items

his strengths are
>combos with other heroes e.g. hex + abrams charge is a braindead lane win
>laning in general, completely unfair hero with assistant up
>once he is ahead in lane the enemies can't do anything because its easiest to hit bolts under enemy guardian
>playing vs a dynamo because your ult is half his cd and your kit is more mobile and overall better
>completely aids splitpushing (max unmissable bolt dmg on walkers) + assistant mobility
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>get so far ahead that the team doesnt know what to do and just makes retarded play after retarded play until we lose
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Why are so many clearly spirit focused characters actually meta built for gun? There’s already too much gun.
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>>541821747
why didnt you tell them what to do since you knew
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>>541821562
Date at the bar first
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>>541821747
The ability to actually end a game or push objectives is surprisingly uncommon.
Had a game where we were well ahead in souls and kills, but lagged in walkers and even had to fight in our base twice, because most of the team was effectively playing with their food
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Ran into a gun Pocket today. Surprisingly not terrible.
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>>541819582
Does the carpet match the drapes?
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>>541821808
because they thought it was a good idea to nerf every spirit item and buff gun in the same patch
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Didn't even realise Victor got a buff on Sunday. How is he now?
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>>541821808
Yoshi trying to bring in the faggy CS crowd or something
Actual answer is probably rooted somewhere in core gameplay design. Like Ivy being kitted as a support, so given a good gun as compensation, but because of how itemization works, became a better M1 than dedicated M1s
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I have a sudden but unstoppable need to bash heads in and the network is still down. So are the servers broken or is this a (me) issue?
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>>541821849
i did, they just kept running it down instead
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>>541821997
I had a guy on my team doing gun Drifter who was shockingly effective. I kind of wrote that build off when I wasn't getting good results.
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>>541822065
get radiant regen, suppressor and max your 1 and you'll be the most obnoxious hero in existence.
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>play infernus
>he swears like crazy
>play billy
>BARELY swears
what the fuck is this dude is he punk OR WHAT
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>>541822262
How would that be bad he has infinite scaling and literally can't miss
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>>541822083
You'd think people with years of game dev experience would be able to forsee that, if items generally act as power multipliers, then the meta build for any given character would be focused on whatever aspect of their kit is the strongest naked part of that kit
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>>541822367
They seem to be sanitising things a bit. They've even cut out swears from some heroes (changing Holliday from saying "Shut the fuck up" to just "shut up")
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>>541822367
Dude, he even complains about his tax dollars going to Haze so he works and pays taxes like a good goy, like every furnigger he is a fucking poser
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>>541822262
works fine, but gets hard cucked by disarm
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>>541822523
>They've even cut out swears from some heroes (changing Holliday from saying "Shut the fuck up" to just "shut up")
That's so fucking lame.
We're playing a game with characters that SHOOT AND MURDER each other.
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>>541821182
You can make it yourself, anon.
Steam's down for maintenance for me right now
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how do I play drifter rn I used to build him full melee but that shit is NOT working anymore
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Bros how do I build Victor now.
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>>541822523
Lash can't even say ''bitch'' anymore, its over for DEIdlock
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>>541822638
Talk about lame when posting a fucking spongebob image
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See what spoon-feeding does to your general? We get all these faggots asking for builds nonstop because they can't think for themselves.
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welcome to the big leagues jerks
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>>541822814
I even responded to one once with the most retardproof way to follow itemizing the hero, and I got no reply + the nigger is still asking how to play the hero
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
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>>541822814
hey go fuck URSELF bud I gave you my build when you needed to figure out drifter day 1
now that your brother is hungry you abandon him?
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>>541822814
asking how to build victor is totally valid because at no point has his build been solved, and he gets a patch every other day, I have 50 games on him and Im still not sure what to build
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At what rank does Trophy Collector stop being BIS
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>>541822818
We overwatch now

>eheheheheh you see that stuff
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>>541822929
No reply is actually a good sign, means they tried it and also it isnt obviously retarded
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>kelvin is hitler again
fucking great
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>>541823058
its not BIS at any rank because if you were good enough that it wasnt a liability then you would benefit more from a real item to push your snowball further
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>try a new build
>it fucking sucks absolute ass
>troll and lose the game
i guess im playtesting but damn some heroes really are just item enablers at the core of it
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>>541822367
Billy is a poser.
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heroes that would do scout's scattergun taunt
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>>541822523
To be fair her anger in that line from Lash’s mild goofy flirting was TOO seething, it was corny
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>sneak behind 300hp abrams in blue lane 4 minutes in
>trying to get really close to make sure i can secure the kill
>get JUST into heavy melee range and he clearly doesnt know im there still
>mina on my team pauses
>once he unpauses abrams is out in an instant
hate these fucking faggots pausing EVERY FUCKING GAME
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>>541823143
kelvin has never not been broken and easy to play, its a top 3 carried hero for sure
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>>541823058
i still can't think of any situation where i'd rather buy trophy collector over 8 min cultist sacrifice
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>>541823290
Shiv literally has the FaN on his alt fire
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>>541823296
she's a twice divorced sheriff out to kill someone in revenge, not really corny
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Is Ritual Ballsacrifice still good
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Hey guys I have a stupid basic question too
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>>541822523
Valve has a strict no f word rule
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>>541823606
well heres my incredibly confident answer(seeker btw)
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>>541823461
She’s 3 feet tall
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>>541823345
hydration is funny to watch when he's not playing kelvin
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>>541823340
Pause should be disabled for the first 5 minutes of the game
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Let's blow the SNOT out of bebop!
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>>541823290
vyper
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i hate that being an archon means i have a higher rank thank 90% of /dlg/, i'm supposed to be a shitlow
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>>541823949
don't listen to grognards who wish they were the top 1%
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>>541823949
This isn’t even a humblebrag anymore you’re just stroking it
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How do I gunbrams?
I've entered into the bracket where everyone has perfect parry timings.
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>>541824065
i think the matchmaking is just dogshit and it got a ton of people stuck in initiate i forever
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>>541823949
>archon shitter
lmao
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>>541823949
every time i've seen some fag brag about their rank it's someone that's been playing since before whatever update they made to the rank system that's putting every newgen on a downward trend
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>>541824131
dont heavy melee like a monkey?
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swat away the Seven
holy shit though that Paradox damage
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>>541824131
aim for the head, get to cover, rush phantom strike so you can force shoulder charges. not much different from basic melee abrams
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>>541824131
>Stun them against the wall with tier 2 charge
>Heavy
>Proceed to shoot gun in their face
>Wait for them to pre-emptively parry or
>Do a 180 heavy charge to bait a parry
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Flopping Vindicta cock
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>>541824164
to me anything below oracle will forever be pisslow, i AM a shitter
>>541824229
yeah i think the MM is just fucking broken
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>tfw you have a lane partner on mic who is clearly being patient and trying to give good advice
>but you're a room-temperature IQ grognard who only sees a play is bad after it's too late to do anything but die
I apologize forever to anyone who lanes with me. My intentions are good by my skills are not.
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>>541824470
bro if you have someone like that make sure they know you are trying without coming off as an ass, that kind of people that is willing to give advice without chimping out is rare
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>>541824542
It's Mover...
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>>541823340
>Play any online game that has ever existed
>Queue into it knowing you will be occupied for 20m to an hour
>Deal with interruptions/distractions/poor planning as it happens
>Play Deadlock
>Faggot fucking retards pausing constantly for absolute bullshit reasons

Shit drives me up the damn wall
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>>541824542
What was Krill’s plan?
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>>541824542
He was attempting a burrow I think right? What a dumbass
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>Game is not even 1 min in
>People already pausing
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>>541824252
don't know why this is so satisfying to do every time
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INHOUSE JOIN JOIN JOIN JOIN

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I have Victurd fatigue
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Is Drifter the only canonical rapist?
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>>541819582
Breaking news!
Datamining reveals that all players in beta will receive the Golden Infernus skin for free once game releases proper
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>>541825076
lady geist rapes shotas (CANON and indisputable fact)
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>>541821808
Probably because we had months of non-stop spirit meta.
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>>541825184
holy shit
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>>541825184
shinygga
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>>541825184
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>>541825201
Oathkeeper just eats them
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>"oh man I have the perfect cat image for this" the mentally ill tranny thought to himself
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>>541825410
after she rapes them
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>>541825493
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>>541825493
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>>541825645
Calico if Valve was based.
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I know you guys love when Metro goes melty, so I time stamped it: https://youtu.be/nMJgG0XVjo8?t=645

lmfao
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>>541824968
4/12 JOIN FAGGOTS
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>>541825493
problem?
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Deadlock needs the TF2 zoom when someone kills you and freeze frame and "rival". I miss that shit.
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>>541826112
the characters don't have facial animations whats even the point?
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>>541824968
時です。
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>>541825928
guy is a kook but 800dmg kinetic shot at 20mins is disgusting
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>>541826182
add them, down the line anyway game needs them
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>>541826206
Fuck off with the broken japanese you triple nigger
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fucking kek this mm, this game is so fucking dead and gay talon is a massive faggot crutch of a char.
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How many games did it take you guys to get out of Ini1
im definitely not going against people new to this game
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>>541826218
I had to play a game against BOTH Grey Talon and Paradox, who were also laning together
we somehow won because they didn't have an actual carry but Jesus Christ
>buy sprit resist
>push the lane a bit by throwing an AoE
>they both AWP you for 95% of your HP from the other side of map
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Now that I'm rushing mystic instead of gay shit like resto shot or headshot booster (I'm an aimlet) I really really really like Geist. Her 3 feels like it should have a DoT though. There should be a 1600 imbue item that gives an ability a small DoT.
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>>541824252
THIS IS GONNA HURT
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>>541826412
I went on a 9+ game win streak and im still an initishit
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>>541826275
>broken
[time] [It is].
It's time.
?
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>>541826412
make a new account and try again
it's impossible because:
>you pick up bad habits and don't learn anything if you're stuck too long in Initiate
>most of the games contain smurfs so you will just get stomped repeatedly
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>>541826412
every nigga who stopped playing for a few months is initiate now
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>>541823834
But she always gets her man!
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>>541826642
That's not how you'd phrase it retard
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there is no greater joy in deadlock like getting a fucking funny ass fuckin team that are all being shitheads on mic
co-ordinating 1 person gets mo/doormanned every fight is just SO fucking funny
like that 1 smiling friends scene
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>>541826218
true
she and talon are pure spirit cancer
can't think of others who just delete you like that from afar
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He's gonna get nerfed again, isn't he?
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>>541826412
initiate is a hellscape right now, it pulls in smurfs from int/seek/alch that completely dominate most games, thankfully my friend and I got out quick but that shit was cancer for a good week or so
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>>541826895
this game has always struggled to balanced tank characters so yes
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>>541826895
7ZJJ2
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>>541826895
Victor bros, you know the rule by now. 24 hours. We get to enjoy it for 24 hours. Then it's gone.
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>>541826730
I'll study the grammer so I may shitpost in higher quality then. From what I remember from three years ago that is perfectly valid grammer.
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>>541826182
McGinnis and Abrams already have facial rigging, so these will be added 100%
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>>541825493
>this schizo actually thinks anyone posting a cat image is the same person

how brown do you need to be to react like this, is it like a chinese thing perhaps where the thought of people posting food as reaction images is an impossibility?
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>>541827107
You'd say 時間です or 時が来た not 時です
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>>541826218
erm ackshually it did 1019 damage...
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>>541827060
>abums has a corpse but vik insta disappears
more evidence that he's the MC
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Holy fucking bags. This has to be a personal record for amount of unconfirmed souls at one time.
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>>541827436
You didn't pick up the big one dynamo dropped you FUCK!!!
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>it's another two losing lanes game
Just don't die
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>>541827436
are they ever gonna change the way the bag looks?
if they do hopefully it comes back as a early tester reward or something
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>>541827605
and he got two big bags as a result!
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>>541827745
Nah he should have THREE fuckin bags THREE
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>>541827436
>enemies run in 1 by 1 in a neat order
>doorman didn't door or even slam you away with the cart
how is seal clubbing as a hobby?
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>>541825493
Got all the toxobullet fags in a twist, good job.

Deadlock is a dogCHAD game. Fishbros and rodentfriends welcome.
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>>541826651
Need 3 more 9/12

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>>541827436
Join :)
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>>541827938
what an odd looking cat
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>>541826693
LEMME SHOW YOU WHY I'M THE LAW
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>>541827894
oh noez!!!! catsisters what now!!!!
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>>541825493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxX_QHay02M&list=RDIxX_QHay02M&start_radio=1
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>>541828313
Is this image based off something or is it just cowboy bebop but holliday
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Worst match I've played in a long time.
Every single grab I did landed me nothing but regret. Teammates running away, enemy getting away with 1hp, cancelled immediately.
We didn't even manage to take all the guardians.
What the fuck is the counter to matches this bad?
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>>541828531
ULTRAKILL
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>vtumor niggers joining the lobby
I'm about to crash out
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>>541828554
BTW yes I did report the entire enemy team for child solicitation.
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>me unga
>team bunga

99% of matchmaking posts.
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>>541828638
>they also pick Ivy
:^(
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In AWE at the greed of this Mina. The second a 1v1 becomes a gank, no matter how hurt they are, some players just start seeing red.
>>541827847
This doorman wasn't notably bad: he landed his carts really often in lane and to good effect.
>>541828010
It's midnight, I want some quick Victor games before he gets nerfed in the morning
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>>541826651
10/12
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>>541828638
>>541828752
>sperging out at old regulars
Newfags.
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How the fuck do I get good at this game without watching a faggot youtuber explaining the most basic shit like last hitting.

I'm still pretty new to the game coming off around 5k hours of dota, feels like every game I fall off super hard despite keeping up farm the best I can, feels like I tickle the enemy while they explode me in under a second.

I am seeker 6 while getting put in emissary lobbies bc of the people I play with, but any time they make a new account they hypercarry every match until they get put back in emissary, is that an awful way to play the game?
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>about to get a kill
>kelvin rolls up and ults them where i'm just out of range
>takes the kill and the dropped souls while in his gay little snowglobe
>frozone runs away
KELVIN CRETINS GET THE FIRING SQUAD
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Saw this in the bad matchmaking thread. Yeah gee Yoshi I wonder why the matches feel so weird and unbalanced!
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>>541829031
You play
You complain about matchmaking
You eventually go up a rank
You derank 5 times
You enjoy the slopfest that is Initiate 1 and you will never leave
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>>541828782
Mina players are retarded and look at their health as purely a % not a flat number
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>>541827213
>時間
hmm figures that is where I mess it up, I have very limited understanding and should return to studying it to fill my empty days.
>>541829031
Come get anally raped in lane by players better than you in the inhouse..
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JOIIIIN

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ONLY 2 SLOTS LEFT
10/12
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>>541829128
The matchmaking is shit because it wants the highest rank player (no matter the character) to carry 4-5 people everytime and that simply just isnt going to happen
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>>541829031
welcome Initiate 1 bro
remember: there is no way out
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>>541829320
>join so we can immediately cry about you in the thread
no thanks
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baseball hero when
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>>541829487
....voiced by the scout....
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>>541829397
No need to be a sook come join
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>>541829320
1 (ONE) (ICHI) (EIN) LEFT!!!!!
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ONLY 1 SLOT LEFT JOIN THE INHOUSE

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>>541829397
>he is afraid of some crying bitches
IGNORE THE FAGGOTS JOIN
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>>541829128
Jesus that is egregious
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>>541828752
im playing gun ivy and im only gold voltaic i hope you're on my team so we can lose together
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>>541829128
Me as the Wraith when I get into a team of 5 emissaries
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>>541829128
statlocker doesnt have access to people's actual ranks, that is from their own algorithm or whatever the fuck they use
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>>541829128
Yep!
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>>541829128
Here is one of mine from yesterday
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JUST ONE MORE RETARDED FAGGOT FOR THE INHOUSE

7ZJJ2
7ZJJ2
7ZJJ2

JOIN AND YOU GET TO EAT MINA'S ASS FOR FREE
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>>541826402
>>541829809
Same game, seems statlocker is fairly accurate.
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>>541827715
A next big update many of us have speculated to occur is a jungle overhaul, applying new assets and perhaps severely altering some mechanics.

Right now the current bags are pretty perfect in a purely utilitarian sense: In that they're bright to be easily spotted but hollow, perforated and in two different ways distinct from any character's body or environment. It's spherical shape makes its exact relative size easily apparent. It's plain yet ethereal, as to neither detract from the more relevant things around it, while also not blending in or adulterating.

Of course it's placeholder and I'm eager to see what replaces it but I personally cannot fathom anything better right now
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>>541830063
only 11 people actually play this game though..
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I refuse to play inhouses
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>100% winrate on Mina
I thought she was bad now?
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>>541830406
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>>541830350
you are missing out on seeing kino like support drifter, melee infernus, gun lash and melee ivy
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>match mvp
>70% kill participation
>10k obj damage when my team couldnt even get more than 1 fucking walker
>top damage in the entire lobby
>rating goes from archon 1 to emissary iv
my bad ill carry the victor with 24k souls at 35 minutes harder next time
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>>541829128
Hahaha, yeah imagine lumping up 4 different rank groupings in a team hahaha
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i'd join inhouse but i don't want to play with 100 ping
atleast get someone on the east coast to host if you want eu bros in
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hmmm
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>>541830601
there are no hosts, it's valve servers nigga
100 ping isn't even that bad
t. yuro
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>>541830601
i'm playing with 300 ping don't be such a wuss, just pick a no-aim hero and you'll do fine
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If the game says I'm seeker 6, but statlocker / tracklock both say I'm arcanist 3 wtf do I believe
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are you for fucking real, 1 more needed
7ZJJ2
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>>541830670
>300 ping
i could never. youre a better man than me e e
>>541830647
oh right lol
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>>541830601
The servers are being hosted in Virginia which is east coast.
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>>541830601
>>541830780
current lobby is in US east

7ZJJ2
7ZJJ2
7ZJJ2
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why the fuck did it reset everyone's heroes
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>>541830943
does this if it takes too long
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>>541830853
maybe tomorrow
its 2:00 am nigga
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>>541819582
Why the fuck is almost every game I play like this

Am not normally Mina but just happened to get her this game, still annoying as fuck
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the people with vtuber pfps are the problem though
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>>541831936
Forgot my image
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>>541832249
>>541828638
Which vtuber
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>>541832358
seemed pretty close desu, your mid lane just lost super hard and that snowballed the game
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>>541832249
I wish you could more easily see people's steam account
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>>541832358
>Forgot to censor the match id
Yoshi would have had you crucified upside down just a year ago.
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>>541832571
laplus
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>>541832821
Ah fuck I didn't even notice that
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>losing : AAAAAAAAAA
>winning : OOOOOOOOOOO
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I need Billy images and/or fanart
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>>541832358
>>541831936
>>541832924
>>541832821
>>541832748
There we go, fixed it : )
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>>541833060
make some faget
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>>541832863
hot
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>>541833143
God, today is not my day. Whatever I'm gonna watch something instead.
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>>541828638
>>541828752
i would hate to be you faggots right now
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sneek is a player more annoying and more pathetic than meppz and that is saying a LOT
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>>541834098
I won the game, was fun lane :)
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GGs, shame everyone only had room for one game
PS. you did your best lash, don't worry about it
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>Gee I wonder why people dont join our inhou-
> >>541834145
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WTF I love seven now??
mind you, this was a lost lane where I died twice
turns out all you need to do is farm jungle if you lose
fuck fighting, just spam "retreat" until you can literally 1v6
thank god they didn't buy shit like knockdown or something
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>>541834260
He spent all game flaming teammates despite playing like shit himself, he deserves it
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>>541834145
>Talk shit about Ivy
>They do good
>Sneek is sperging out in mic the entire game
>Multiple people feeding 6-7 kills in the first 10 mins
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>>541834180
yes, i only raged at the lash because i thought he RQd early, he did fine
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>Super Monday Night Combat / Paragon 2.0 General
lol you niggers never learn
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>>541834260
a player who didn't do anything beyond get carried by john and trash talking everyone. i'll be glad to never see him again.
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>>541834443
No he just crashed, apparently I was the only one who noticed which is why I paused. That guy never rage quits even if he does bad and he never gets on mic and starts whining so don't flame him. If you're gonna flame anyone flame the shitters with mouths
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>>541834453
Paragon was too good for us
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>>541832249
This is good bait because I don't even know how the hell you misinterpret a picture of a polar bear I got off a box of christmas marshmallows as a vtuber pfp
>>541834145
>>541834341
I muted him early. I think he actually caught up to me on deaths by the end despite me starting as Mina in a lane against Talon/Vyper and him getting carried through lane by Victor
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>>541834145
why didn't you say anything during the game if he was so annoying? maybe stop being a pussy and speak up, faggot
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>>541834548
true gamers deserved the fortnite bomb as retribution for disturbing zoe queen
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>>541834607
vyper is very cheesy I just rush spiritshielding > enchanters since I can't be arsed to deal with it.
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>>541834703
Half of the team was audibly tilted in the mic how would arguing with some retard in the mic be conducive to winning it's the same as trying to argue with Meppz when he's sperging
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>>541834607
>This is good bait because I don't even know how the hell you misinterpret a picture of a polar bear I got off a box of christmas marshmallows as a vtuber pfp
He's the one with the vtuber pfp (the V豚) he's saying you're a bigger issue
>>541834607
>I muted him early. I think he actually caught up to me on deaths by the end despite me starting as Mina in a lane against Talon/Vyper and him getting carried through lane by Victor
He did nothing in lane than throw a flask every now and then and sit waiting for creeps to arrive. If I was against more practiced players/a worse hero match-up that lane was fucking over immediately. ANOTHER fucking septic doing nothing in lane all game then getting on mic to talk shit IN A CASUAL GAME with 0 fucking stakes, after putting me through the ultimate test in patience for 10 straight minutes.
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>>541834145
Thank fuck I was on the other team, everyone was based
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>>541834703
i was more focused on playing the game than interacting with a squeaky nigger who's only thought process was to complain
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>>541834703
Aryans don't interact with Wigger subhumans, it is beyond them.
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>>541834808
mfw I see debuff remover bought at min 11
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i can't wait for this game's visual clarity to be fucking destroyed by cosmetics!!!
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>>541835140
Two of the most refreshing things about Deadlock for me when compared to Dota 2 when I first started playing was the lack of visual vomit from cosmetics, and the lack of buyback. I do not look forward to the addition of either (please Valve do not put fucking buyback in this game)
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>posts following an inhouse are complaining about each other

kek why in the world would anyone play with you spergs
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Spamming green items is funny, had a lash completely give up when I was greenbop, dude just gave in halfway into our midgame duel
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is inhouse kill?
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>>541834872
>He's the one with the vtuber pfp (the V豚) he's saying you're a bigger issue
That makes more sense, and is very funny because it implies he's got enough of a complex about it to bring it up unprompted
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>Retard Infernus farms all game (still has the least souls on the team)
>Complains on voice chat nonstop
>Lose
>He's on the enemy team next game
>Easily win because he's a shit player
If matchmaking was functional, he would not be in my games. He was the absolute worst performer twice over.
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>>541835370
Too late for me to play another. Need to start the hosting of them sooner for more games (not a NEET unfortunately), as is the case with the other EU regulars.
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will watching the high elo lobbies make me good at this game
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>>541835574
no
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Been getting into Mirage lately, anyone willing to share a decent build? The top daily ones seem kinda shit
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>>541835517
wtf you niggas have JOBS ?!
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>>541835265
>joins inhouse for the first time
>complains and trash talks every single time a teammate dies while being carried by the highest rank player here (we have 2x the kills the enemy does)
>complains where the team is at despite being deep in enemy jungle and outnumbered
>dies so many times by the end he just go quiet
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>>541835574
what you should do is watch someone who is good at your hero so you can copy what they do, how they lane, what they do during mid game, etc.
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I can't aim for shit but my vindicta wr is like 80%
I dont get it.
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>every person dead
>STILL HAVE TWO JUNGLING RETARDS
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>>541836562
what do you need the whole team there for? you can drop patron in like 15 seconds and then go back
viscous is resetting and calico can just cat over in a few seconds
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>>541836562
I need to clear camps bro
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I don't understand Toxic Bullets on Mirage as a core item
EE + Djinn used to be a funny meme build but the 3200 doesn't really seem worth when Spiritual Overflow is so important to rush out
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>>541834808
I kind of just accepted the lane was gonna be shit and focused on my damage items so I could start farming instead of wasting souls on vitality
The issue is that the charged shot -> venom combo basically instakills Mina so I just died instantly if I ever went even a little bit too far up
You can dodge venom with sanguine as Mina but I've been playing Calico so my muscle memory on Mina was a bit rusty
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>>541836945
Who on earth buys Escalating exposure on mirage?
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>>541838352
funny meme build
I still don't understand Toxic Bullets core, it's his best anti-heal until Inhibitor but there isn't much of a point buying it unless you need the anti-heal
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Update, yoshi... pls...
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>>541838452
in 2 months goy
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I fucking hate Calico, everything about her
Her design, her personality, her concept, her playstyle, and especially the faggots who play her
Insufferable patch, bullet meta with this god awful character pushed to S tier
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>>541836019
thats easy when you only have 5 games
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>friend loses every single victor game
>refuses to ever buy infuser or rapid recharge
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>>541838960
>infuser
is he just a shitter that can't get into using active items?
>rapid recharge
what the fuck
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>>541838960
I have a 60% wr on victor and I have never bought infuser
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>>541838923
It's more than 5 19 with 15 wins
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>It's another "Oracle" average rank that's really just two Eternus players and a bunch of shitlows game
>It's another my team is all soloq and we're against a 4 stack game
>It's another someone lanes against the designated smurf and the entire match is decided there game
also
>Ranks are STILL trending downwards and shit like Archon 1 is top 10%
How the fuck do people defend this man? The playercount isn't THAT low that they have to balance matches this poorly, I would rather wait in queue 5 minutes than have to play through any of this shit. If isn't fun being on the winning side either, like oh man I got lucky and got an Eternus duo on my team while the enemy teams highest rank is Phantom, this is gonna be a fun one!
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>>541839129
thats impressive what is your rank
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>>541836562
>the Wraith and Infernus are the ones pushing instead of farming
bizarro game
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>>541839181
Seeker 3, so maybe everyone else also can't aim
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>>541839245
its moreso that people are bad at building properly, when a vindicta gets started in higher ranks a single knockdown turns her off because her ability to do damage is also tied to flight which has an ultimate tier cd
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>>541839038
i watched him play a match against warden, infernus, mirage, paige (who bought vortex and knockdown) and he still didn't buy rapid recharge when i told him it would just win him the game outright
>>541839061
rapid recharge is more the problem, but infuser is undoubtedly very strong on him
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>when you max out your aura t3 on victor, you take 13% more damage even when it’s off
retard devs, the finest of valve btw
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>>541836562
I genuinely see nothing wrong here all the gun heroes are pushing and can take everything in no time while Viscous who is low is invading jungle and Calico can be there in 5 seconds if needed. I think you just lack game knowledge or something this looks optimal.
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Honestly I'm happy Grey Talon's family is dead
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>>541839450
infuser is strong but its more that so many 6k items are as well that its not that unreasonable to not build
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>>541839450
hard to justify infuser if you're dipping into gun; leech has better lifesteal outside of the "oh shit" active and a really easy buildup
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>>541839473
>when you max out your aura t3 on victor, you take 13% more damage even when it’s off
No way that's real
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the enemy had dynamo and it was already over for them. also making webms feels like shit figuring out the right settings for the crappy 4mb limit
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Victor and Shiv are just walking statcheck heroes and I love watching their mains seethe as they catch nerfs
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>>541840967
you move your mouse around like you've taken two hits of addy
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>>541841306
scout main syndrome
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>>541829128
How are you Eternus and only do 5k objective damage as Wraith in a 30 minute game? Dude needed to shoot more buildings. Look at Viper, she shot buildings and won the game.
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>>541841172
true, infernus and wraithmain btw
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>>541822592
What are the alternatives? Being homeless and poor or ending up like Vyper? I think it adds to his character that he's smart enough not to go down those roads.
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>>541842352
Peak nigfernus and wraith meta have counterplay though and ways to shut them down peak victor and shiv meta is just misery 1v6 raidbosses
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>>541841394
It will always be odd to me that Valve game players mostly only play Valve games.
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>>541838960
>friend
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>>541841172
half the cast are stat check heroes because their kits keep getting nerfed. and I think this is primarily the reason why match making is getting worse and worse lately, so the team with the weakest player(s) automatically fold because they pick the wrong hero or the stat check heros get a lead.
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>>541840206
test it out in sandbox
it’s actually retarded
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>>541841172
Victor is stat check, shiv is kinda not imo
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>>541843745
shiv is completely stat check, he just harasses people out of lane with a lead or immediately starts snowballing
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>>541835140
devs might be based enough to have a vanilla only toggle.
i'm sure lessons were learned from dota being confusing as fuck for the modern viewer.
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>>541843501
>it's real
AHHHH WTF

Also weirdly enough it doesn't make aura of suffering kill you any faster for some reason
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>>541843970
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/victors-t3-aura-of-suffering-causes-him-to-take-13-more-damage-even-without-aura-active.85158/
the best of valve’s coders btw
I just stopped leveling up aura to t3 at this point. It kinda sucks having a gimped hero kit
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Calico is a piece of shit character that should get deleted. That's all.
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i just started playing nigfernus why the FUCK is he allowed to farm t3 camps this fucking fast
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>>541844212
half the cast should get deleted
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>>541844231
try dash build its even funnier
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>>541844212
>I-IS THAT CALICO BEING ACTUALLY VIABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MONTHS? AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME YOSHI NERF HER AND BUFF SEVEN AND ABRAMS AT ONCE!!
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Support Drifter feels funny. It's hard to gauge how much impact your ult has, but just running around ulting during teamfights with superior duration, throwing CC items at people and then jumping weak characters that happen to be out of position is pretty fun
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>>541844392
Yes. She should never be viable or black.
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>>541844392
>dash in, burst, pop ult for second burst
>can't 1v1 her before mid-game

who likes to fight her? it's like paradox/pocket, they just dump their combos for kills until mid game
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>>541844392
She was viable before the patch. Nerf gloom bombs.
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>try to deny enemy creep orbs
>doesn't deny
>but still hear a light 'toc' sound
wat does this shit mean
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>>541844662
This she was a nightmare in initiate
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>>541840967

Sinclair doing the only thing he does well

roleplaying as heroes that are actually relevant
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>>541825493
based
discord cat reaction images screams lost teenager
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>>541844282
what do you buy for this, green items and shit like artic burn?
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>>541844212
Calico is literally just Pocket for shitters. He is just as slippery, has more burst and has a game-winning ult. The only reason to play Calico is if you can't play Pocket because he's harder
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>>541845078
Calico is more fun imo
t. have played both a lot
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>>541844942
I use this and I basically play around narrow spaces to make dash as aids as possible
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>>541843954
god that would be fucking incredible

they won't do it (because $$$)
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>>541845078
they're both for fucking shitters, pocket is not hard to play and never has been
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>>541844669
answer me YOU FUCKING LOSERS ANSWER ME AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
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Calico isn't that horrible to play against compared to the other current meta heroes and at least requires mild skillful input people just have meltdowns over her because she's an ugly niggress. Would rather go against a Calico than Seven or ult Warden or phantom strike Abrams/Mo or Nigfernus etc etc any day
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>>541845514
rather not play against any of those heroes desu
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>>541845570
Most of the cast is miserable to play against
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>>541845078
pocket is very easy and retardproof though
>press 4
>frogs
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>>541845260
pocket has a high skill ceiling not a high floor
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>>541844212
but I like running urn as a cat
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>>541845838
that's a completely retarded thing to do though
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>>541835140
what the fuck am i looking at here? it's just some greebled to shit blob
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>>541845917
I didn't say it wasn't or that I wasn't
I am simply saying what I enjoy doing
Perhaps we are alike
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>>541845762
>majestic leap in, coat in escape or engage direction, satchel, teleport
>majestic leap in, satchel, press 4, teleport

that's basically all pocket does offensively. I think puck actually takes more skill to play in dota
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>>541845385
>hit orb that would be a deny if you were playing on an impossibly perfect 0 delay connection
>sound plays client side but the server says your opponent got the LH so they get the souls
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>>541846104
puke needs to press a second button to aoe with his blink and doesn't have venomancer ult
so a little more skill to play yeah
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holy shit novelai's character reference is GOOD for generating mina hentai
i was an ai hater before but now i fear im a goonbrain
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5d77DQHOI
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>>541847807
come back in a few days when MM decides it's time for the forced 50/50
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>Pregnant geist deluxe skin: $90

why live
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>>541847807
I've reached the point where I can win 10 games in a row, each getting harder and harder to carry, then the game just keeps giving me bigger and bigger retards until it evens out, it's actually insane.
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>>541847924
is everyone finally realizing that the matchmaking is a forced 50/50? I used to say this back in 2024 and get ridiculed for it.
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>>541848046
If they added a skimpy Geist skin where you can see her hairy white bush I would drop £100
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Me? spirit doorman.
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>>541848248
it's the usual cope for retards who don't understand what they're playing
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Puddle punch should be Viscous's ult, charges removed. If it lands it impregnates the hero hit which slows them down significantly until another hero assists them in a lengthy childbirth animation
Male heroes don't get preggers instead their testicles get obliterated
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>>541848395
what happens to dynamo and bebop then
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>play vindictia
>rush spell parry
>parry 3 mo ults, 2 wraith ults
>get hooked by bebop
>block bomb and a dozen other things
>live

ok, this thing is awesome, what the fuck. I would be extremely tilted and crash out if some dude parried all of my shit.
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Other Victor players how often do you keep the aura on to scale the damage up whenever someone's not in it? I felt confident keeping it on here since they're both close range characters but I still wonder if the health loss was worth it. Maybe I could've even killed lash too.
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>>541848512
I can't think of an answer because now my thoughts are fixated on a female coded robot hero
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>>541848393
>10 wins in a row with competent, high quality lane mates
>10 losses in a row with people that barely know how to play
>you're not noticing anything! you're just bad!

if we were bad, then how did we win the 10 games in a row?
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>>541848759
>roll slot machine
>get win streak occasionally
>get loss streak occasionally
very surprising!
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>>541848976
we had consistent high quality matches prior to the ranked MM in oct/nov '24 and I really really miss it
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>>541849124
you really didn't. you were new to the game and barely understood what was going on, as well as having the 'honeymoon phase'
additionally most people were equally clueless (and bad)
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>>541849191
everyone is still bad though
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Are there any slurs against ixians
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>>541849570
iggers
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>>541849570
ixiboos
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I'm ok with Victor being good as long as they fucking buff Healbane or make a better % hp damage item because dealing with a fed Shiv/Yamato is already cancer enough
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>>541849879
None of those heroes have CC except for Victor's extremely telegraphed revive btw
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WOOPS looks like some retard on the other side of the map fed an Infernus or Haze in the first ten minutes! Welp, time to waste twenty minutes losing the game with no chance of stopping the overtuned negroes because not even juggernaut+disarm+plate will save you!
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>>541848248
Forced 50% isn't how schizos think it works. It's just how MMR as a system works. It's not a matchmaker rigging games it's trying to find even games. If the games are truly even then over time you approach 50%.

Meanwhile deadlock's matchmaking has no idea what the fuck it's doing so I can win 9 in a row and not move at all in ranking
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>>541850023
is this phenomenon something that happens as often with other MOBAs or is it a mostly Deadlock issue? one hero gets fed early and runs the game while ruining it for all the other 9 or 11 players. I feel like there's so many ways to solve this from being half the games.
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>>541847657
She's gonna kick your balls in for that
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>>541850023
>>541850173
Just get someone to buy curse to disable them or capacitor to purge their buffs. Ganking them mid game is pretty easy too you just need to not jungle. Jungling is how you lose when behind.
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>>541850340
that wasn't my question
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If you have to poop in the middle of the ritual do you think your patron notices and uses their magic to make your poop disappear so you can focus
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>>541850023
adding APR was the biggest mistake ever made in deadlock
it makes buying bullet res pointless, it makes metal skin go from a previously great anti-gun option to a literally worthless throw item that you only buy if you don't know the interaction and on top of that it's even actively counter-productive because if you get the fed retard even once with it they WILL buy APR instantly and you'll cuck your entire team out of bullet res, and jugg/suppressor are not nearly good enough to stop gun
disarm is a meme throw item as well, only phantom strike and curse are half decent and it only works if you have the DPS to kill them before they get their gun back and kill you instantly
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>>541849972
So fucking what? They can just run at you and be immortal while 1 shotting you
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>>541850267
She can try, but I have slowing hex
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>>541850378
Yes and no because the person getting fed is usually better so they wont feed it away but if youre better than them it's very easy to shut them down even after a bigger lead. people just dont know to a) play from behind b) itemize against fed players
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>>541850605
this is a misunderstanding of his approach, he will force everyone to poop before the match so there are no distractions
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you guys don't understand. yoshi is powered by infernal forces. dota...deadlock...they are both loosh harvesting genres. think of all the dumb nerds that play this game that would go through life not feeling anything. this is why this game exists.
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>>541850628
nobody buys apr bro
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>>541850651
best feeling is baiting her into debuff remover then selling slowing hex for curse

making mina's seethe is my only goal if she is in the game
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>watch eternus videos on yt
>they're fucking noobs and play like retards

I swear to god this ranked system is broken. If you were lucky enough to play with a team against randoms, or if your enemies randomly left a few times - you'll gain ranks and become eternus
It's just luck and nothing else, gaming skill, movement skill, farming - this is bullshit, these things are the same on every rank
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>>541850927
nobody buys APR because nobody buys bullet res because if they did the opponent would just buy APR
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im just not allowed to play a hero that cant 1v1 and destroy objectives by themselves, the game is impossible otherwise because of the congaline of retards i get on my team every single match
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>>541850072
>so I can win 9 in a row and not move at all in ranking
Yup, I cope by saying rank doesn't matter
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>>541850681
ABRAMS, YOU MUST DEFECATE BEFORE THE RITUAL, GO TO THE BATHROOM NOW AND THEN SUMMON MEEEE!!!
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>>541851080
nobody buys bullet res because it's a 3200 do nothing
nobody buys APR because its a 6400 counter do nothing
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>>541851101
I genuinely think it doesn't. I looked up the rank #1 drifter in the world and he plays with ritualist average lobbies half his games LMFAO
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>>541851064
you can say this but if you went on whatever account selling website and bought an eternus account and queued up you would get raped 1000 ways to sunday bud
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>>541851141
bullet res is 3200 do nothing because of APR
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How do I play Bombob and not suck?
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>>541850628
What is APR I have literally never seen that bought I think?
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>>541851241
no it's literally a do nothing item when you could buy a 3200 do something item like disarming hex
nobody wants do nothing items in a game where everything needs to do something
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>Only person who can possibly split push on our team effectively goes gun instead of spirit
wooo i love losing instantly because of someone else's shit build wooooooo
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>>541851064
i climbed from archon to asc 5 after elo decaying due to not playing in forever, trust me when i say that A. most people below top 100 are bad and B. anyone below phantom is a drooling retard
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>>541851216
>bullshit
sure buddy
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>>541851064
You just don't know what you're looking at.
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>>541851274
Stack greens and get witchmail if it's a heavy spirit lineup on the other team. Otherwise get silence wave, whatever that item that upgrades into escalating exposure is called, spirit shredder bullets, spirit snatch, and tankbuster
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>>541851310
armor piercing rounds
>>541851321
disarming hex is one of the most fucking worthless items in the game, it got buffed back to back to back and it's still dogshit
all the items that APR counters are literal dogshit
hex is dogshit because it's even easier to counter than bullet res, debuff remover costs 3200 less than APR and is generally more applicable as well
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>>541850173
Nope. Other mobas have a much more gradual progression and items that can counter most things. Super fed carries don't really come online until like 30 minutes and even then don't become immortal for another ten.

Deadlock is innovating by deciding who loses the match in the first ten minutes of the game!
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why do they allow pocket to be the most dominant faggot in this game that barely requires any farm
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>>541851405
>no guys i swear every rank is actually the same i would wipe the floor with the deadlock fight night guys in queue it might say im an alchemist but at heart im eternus ;)
sure buddy
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>>541851972
This is like watching Street Fighter tournaments and thinking you can beat Evo top 8 players because you saw Punk outneutch them and make them whiff 9 times in one round
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>>541852198
>bro fuudo actually sucks i would 5-0 him fr he whiffed standing fierce like a noob legend rank doesnt mean anything
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Eternus gameplay is so autistically optimized you are not going to be able to pick out why exactly they are beyond better than you, you may see a stupid play here and there but the reality is their decision making is instant and they exude confidence so sometimes their gameplay seems botlike but in reality they would hard rape you 99% of the time. Past a certain point you can only optimize every little bit of moving on the map, your decision making, etc and that is where they own you.

t. phantom shitlow that frequently has the displeasure of playing with eternus players and sometimes in eternus lobbies
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>mina doorman lane
>kelvin sinclair lane
>gray talon mina lane
can i get one even slightly playable lane today
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god, deadlock streamers suck
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>>541852329
The best Deadlock streamer is unironically Sneaky the crossdressing League pro.
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past 30 games with warden and im 28 wins and 2 losses but only green/booger rank 2, is this normal?
Weeks 1-3 I was hovering from oracle to phantom, then i quit for a whole year. Just started playing again a month ago.
can you skip ranks if you keep going on massive win streaks, surely elo works like it does in other valve games?
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>>541851345
>split push on our team effectively goes gun instead of spirit
what's the correlation
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>>541852502
>can you skip ranks if you keep going on massive win streaks
>>541850072
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I didn't play from Dec '24 to the new hero patch, but have games always been decided by like 5 minutes? It feels like this patch has made it worse by buffing gun damage, so if a gun carry gets fed early on they snowball even more than before
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>>541852389
I watch him and draskyl
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>>541852293
late night games are fun when you can tell just from the soul difference who's eternus and who's not
always casually thousands of souls above the other players
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>>541852329
Just watch Parzelion he's the only tolerable one
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>>541851310
Dogshit poorly designed item only bought to counter another dogshit poorly design item (PA).
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>>541852329
watch boxaroni because he sounds funny and talks like lash
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>all these anons crying about gun heroes
I played against a fed as fuck vyper as Abrams, I went suppressor, hunters aura, juggernaut and plated armor and her gun was slow as molasses and barely tickled me. Obviously you're not going to counter 12 gun items with only two counter items, you gotta invest, retardbros
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>>541852389
surefour is pretty good
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>>541852876
all this means is that you had to sacrifice doing damage to anyone so that Vyper couldn't hurt you, but she could instakill everyone in your team still so you probably still lost.
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>>541852815
he sounds like a depressed anchor baby
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>>541853060
In teamfights you run towards the vyper to debuff her so her firerate shits itself so she can't kill your team, dingdongbro
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>>541849570
Nethers
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>>541852940
Eh yeah but he gets frustrated easily. Like at this point I'm pretty sure he only plays it because he gets ~2.5k viewers playing it and sub 1k playing anything else. When he started playing it back during the big update again after not having played it for months he sounded happy yeah but now he just drones on about how weak his hero is every game.
Sneaky is always playing with his friends who can be funny and legit never gives up. Like even way behind he plays to win. He's also a clown most of the time but will stop and go into deep dives about why he thinks an item is shit or underrated on a hero.
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>>541851123
MIRAGE, MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN MISTAKEN FOR AN INDIAN, YOUR APPREHENSION TOWARDS SHITTING IS UNDERSTANDABLE BUT MISGUIDED, CAST OFF ALL WORRY OF JUDGEMENT NOW, SUMMON ME AND THE LAND YOU DESIRE SHALL BE YOURS!
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>>541852876
>vyper
Spotted the problem.
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McGinnis is such a retarded character
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is pity commending a thing? like people from the other team give you a commend at the end of the game because they thought you were shit?
or are people just feeling bad for you having a shit team?
leave it to ASSFAGGOTS players for making a positive vibes mechanic toxic i guess.
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>>541852876
no one is complaining about vyper lil bro
also you can afford to do that because abrams can buy only green and not be throwing unlike almost every other hero
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Cease thoughts of sexual intercourse
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>>541853586
if you played good it's probably a respect commend
if you played bad it's a bm commend
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>>541853586
humiliation commend, it's like saying ez.
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>>541853586
I do it when I shit on someone hard and they played an annoying way (cc supportsissy paige)
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>>541853586
Basically
>>541853710

I've also had a lot of "I actually played well but lost and pissed off a player on the enemy team too much" commends. Especially happens with heroes like M&K or Doorman because single target lockdowns can make someone feel like you have it out for them.
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>>541833313
>faget
Anon... you call him french?
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>>541853586
I only commend someone on the enemy team if I had fun fighting them
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>>541848730
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>>541853426
>>541853649
>uhh actually this gun hero is an exception
lmao, disingenuous fags
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>>541853586
idk, i always think it's in a good way
like even when i didn't do "great" statistically i think it's in a "you gave it your best shot" way or "you really were a thorn on my ass" way
it's probably a just a mindset thing, your brian is just looking to get angry over anything it can grasp so it's read as BM
or maybe i am the one with the overtly positive mindset
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>>541853880
>sukuna looks like an ugly gremlin
>artist didn't even bother drawing a background
sheesh, talk about lazy.
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>>541852785
A lot of this game is very psychological too, every time I've laned against an Eternus player they express nothing but confidence in how they play even if they have a bad matchup. They also aren't stubborn and aren't afraid to let guardian be taken or some shit if they know they can just play from behind a bit and statcheck you or apply meaningful pressure elsewhere. I remember a long time ago I had a game with Bananas only who admittedly isn't the most god tier and we all lost lane, were afk jungling, and he didn't tilt, bitch, or whine. He went negative pushing a walker until he got it and created space for us, we pulled back the game after that. Made me learn some shit not gonna lie
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>>541854050
Yes the shittiest hero in the game is an exception. She's unironically better as a spirit/hybrid build and still shit.
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>>541854073
why did you aim above her thougheverbeit
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>>541854297
are you having a stoke?
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>>541854073
what am I looking at
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>>541854050
>uh what about me using the tankiest hero and stacking all the anti-gun items vs the literal worst fucking gun hero in the game though??????
says that then calls others disingenuous
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>>541851553
When I see Bebop Eternus going 1-7-6, and Ivy coming to a fight when everybody else are dead already only to die as well - I know exactly what I see. They're the same retards like on low ranks.
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>>541854073
>don't aim at enemy
>ability doesn't land
wow!
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>>541854468
Yeah except they're not playing against your low rank ass lil bro
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>>541854424
>abrams
>tankiest hero
huh?
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>>541850628
As long as PA exists APR also has to exist.
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>>541854526
Anon are you stuipd? The other team is exactly like this. Put one Eternus in an Alchemist game and he won't carry shit. Make it the other way around and an Alchemist won't ruin an Eternus game. Because they're all the same
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>>541854925
you're funny i'll give you that
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>>541852639
They've been like this since deniable orb rewards from kills/objectives got removed.
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>>541855010
>noooooo my ritualist means something i'm better than the other
kek
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>>541855212
i'm phantom and a shitter
i can run circles around archons and eternus players run circles around my games
you just don't know shit mate
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>>541854297
Because I thought my projectile was bigger
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>>541855270
you're on of those retards who's impressed by those 1 eternus vs 6 initate videos

HE'S LE HECKING SOLOING IT WOW SO SKILL MUCH KNOWLEDGE
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>>541855651
>increase bomb hitbox by 20%
>overbuff
jej. she was good before too
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>have witchmail, spellbreaker, plated armor, juggernaut, unstoppable, bullet resist, warp stone
>just walking in and tanking everything, stunning people, and black holing with refresher
>get a 6 person double blackhole under the enemy patron
>only 2 die, team split damage between patron and enemy heroes
>lose

I just don't get it man
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>>541854925
Unironically correct if you're an old fag and have been around to play comp games for decades. Even in league of legends back in season 4 i was in the top 0.01% but the actual top 50-100~ players would almost always shit on me.
That mountain from being the top 1000 to the top 500 to the top 200 to the top 50 is bigger moves than going from the lowest rank to the highest rank.
So this makes sense. The only "good" players are going to be a room full.
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>try to introduce my friend to the game
>first 3 matches all have at least 2 smurfs on the other team who go 28/0 on Vindi or Mina
>because those accounts have less than 5 games played on them: he gets put in a lane with them
I've never quite understood what's so bad about smurfing until now.
It literally kills games like this if this is every new player's experience.
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>>541855809
But even the top 1000 guy is miles above the top 75% alchemist.
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>>541855820
>trying to get new people into Deadlock
>in this fucking state
way to ruin their impression of the game forever
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>>541855820
Went through this exact thing 2 weeks ago with a friend. We got out eventually but I will be super surprised if play counts don't dip if they don't fix this. The first impressions of a new player is really really bad right now with gold smurfs literally dominating matches.
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>>541855885
yeah but it's not going to be comparable at all when you are actually putting in the best players or the only actual good players at the game.
I've said it for over a decade, if you aren't in the top 100, you just aren't good. You're an above average player who is slightly better than some other people.
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>>541855885
You're too fucking stupid to understand one thing - it's a team game. Someone quits, someone's feeding, someone has a team - they're all the same. Your one Eternus might be a fraud, and some random Alchemist can understand the game better.
Ranks can't show your skill, ranks only show in how many games you were in the winning taem.
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>>541856513
And you're too fucking stupid to understand the basics of the game when you're in Alchemist.
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>541855651
>Being viable after half a year is overbuffed
Not really, but go off frogposter.
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If you put prime MikaelS on an Alchemist account how many games do you think he loses before he is Eternus 6?
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>kelvin with blood tribute
just kill this fucking hero already FUCK
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>>541856623
See this
>>541854468

I've seen initates who kept their 2.0KD ratio in a game where their team was feeding like 1-10. And then I've seen Eternus players feeding 1-10, playing like noobs. Ranks don't fucking matter
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>>541852198
watching the FGC slowly die is always great fun
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>>541857027
>K/D ratio
top zozzle
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>>541856864
Idk it depends if he gets matched up against Poohausen or Shmobbly. But with his time playing on a team alongside Goobershlong it may not be that many.
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>>541857214
Poohausen fell off bro, he got kicked off Dick Enjoyers and hasn't done anything good since
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>>541854905
personally i feel like the item that you buy as a counter to specific damage types that also costs fucking 6.4k should not fold as quickly to a counter-counter 6.4k item that's likely much easier to farm for the fed carry than it is for anyone else, but that's just me
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>>541845385

Denying is biased against the denier.

There's a grace period after the soul becomes breaking during which the enemy can secure it but you and your allies can't deny it. If you shoot it during the grace period and then the enemy shoots it before the grace period ends, you hear the hit sound but they get the soul.

It's shit.
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>>541857302
poohausen vs slumbo in the fight night jumborama was FIRE AF BRO FRFRFR
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>>541857027
rage bait used to be believable
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Valve should add an actual white evropean vampire to this game.
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>>541848730

>Mina at low health
>panics
>pops ulti

Fucking Mina players are chimps. I bet that bullshit gets him out of jail 50% of the time too because that hero is for lobotomites.
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People are sleeping on vyper I think she's top 3 in the game right now if you build her right
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>>541857341
It's literally a "counter all m1 damage with zero counterplay" item without APR. Game with actual humans in them instead of subhumans tend to end before carries could farm up another tier 4.
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>>541857552
Uhhh actually the anons in this thread said she was the worst hero about an hour ago bro, keep up thx
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>>541857608
She can apply a 500-700 damage nuke to the entire enemy team all at once with no cooldown on top of her AOE stun that is ANOTHER nuke
No way is she anything but top 10.
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another day another shiv player being a big dumb cunt. stat checker heros tend to attract big ego players who didn't graduate high school I've noticed
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>>541857405

the first half of this post reads like a shitty Rick and Morty interdimensional television gag and the second half reads like a zoomer having a stroke

>Glingo vs Blumbo in the Fightfest Glumborama
>BUSSIN AF ONG FR
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>>541857743
Yeah she can but will she? no.
>aoe stun that bricks your team's fight
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>>541857820
I attempted to emulate the cringe and inherently pointless egoism of competitive videogames. nobody gives a shit if you're big jumbo rank in deadlock. yoshi should require people to provide proof of employment to play ranked.
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People actually sleep on warden. Don't let anyone know though, but if you disregard the retarded (yet fun, but retarded) ult builds and full spirit builds then mix it up with a little gun + spirit, you become literally a killing machine.
Something like picrel
try it out, you won't lose.
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the initiate pit is a feature not a bug
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>>541857916
Works on my machine
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>>541858059
>pisslow
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>>541858045
feels likely to be honest, either because they don't want people to grind MMR on a beta where the only mode is unranked or because the MMR goes fucking negative for some reason
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>>541858075
Actually that's initiate 5 it's 4 ranks above pisslow.
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alright but poohausen is a pretty good nickname
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>>541858013
>no echo shard on root
not playing it sorry.
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>>541858212
Alright I take it back

she's playable and fun but falls off fast and heavily, and a lot of heroes have a way to mitigate the poison (if they don't they'll buy debuff remover)
in lower ranks if you'll prac her i'm sure she can stomp quite a lot of games, she's not a common sight so people in general might be less ready for what she has
and prepare to grief a lot of teamfights with the ult kek
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>>541858013
i could make a nearly identical build on wraith or infernus and do better though
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>lash dynamo on enemy team
>lash yoinks everyone and throws them into dynamo ult
>lash dynamo on your team
>lash pulls everyone out of dynamo ult and then tries to put them back it's too late now it's fucked
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>>541858538
>dynamo on their team
>refresher warpstone expansion, perfect double ults twice in a row, GG
>your dynamo
>random green support shit or gun dynamo, solo ults if you're lucky, occasionally no ults at all maybe they forgot his ult exists?
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I'm too old for denies now. Carry me, youngsters, and in exchange, I won't grumble when you do your retarded feet, piss, and effeminate sex jokes that seem prevalent in chat for some reason.
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>>541858538
I used to love playing lash in the old ranked mode but now I fucking hate him and I dont know why.
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>>541858625
because gun lash is dead and now he's just spirit stomp spam and then ultbot
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>>541858721
I only ever played spirit. I think the new map is harder for him cause it's so cramped and spellbreaker exists so you cant even rely on ult
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>>541840967
>also making webms feels like shit figuring out the right settings
use this https://argorar.github.io/WebMConverter/
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>>541858491
wardens gun is stronger than both
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there is a bout of sick pleasure i get as i watch the healthbar of the enemy that just ran around the corner slowly ticking down until they die when i play infernus
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>>541859202
try vyper and using the poison, knowing your enemy has no way to dodge or heal in time
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>>541859305
This. I love standing still watching them flail futilely before popping.
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>>541859678
Melee Viscous seems cancerbroken but he's still a difficult hero to play so people just see red on him
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When will yoshi add an actually appealing goth hero to this game? Mina's nice and all, but I'd like a design thats a bit more "tanky"...
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>>541835254
Absolute worst thing to ever happen to Dota was the addition of voice lines. And it's always that 1 unfunny faggot in your stack nobody really likes that's spamming them
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>>541859806
She's not that big
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>>541859678
what build are you going anon
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>>541859906
Spamming aghanims voice lines was peak dota, i loved seeing people spam them at each other whenever they killed one another
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snare talon is not working bros
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>>541859806
>begging this hard for paige skins
just wait your turn anon, they need to make another anti-mage skin first
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>>541859678
Honestly this guy is hard now. No clue what youre supposed to build. Probably cant go pure gun or spirit need to have rescue beam to get full value
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redpill me on support drifter
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>>541859678
I think Viscous might have the highest skill floor in the game
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>>541860083
just play sword paige. much more aids to fight against.
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How do I enable the little bar that tells you what CC got you?
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>>541859806
They are never making coombrained heroes
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>>541859956
They literally made her bigger when adding her to masters ex.
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>>541859806
It's a modern game, there won't ever be double Ds unfortunately.
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>>541860164
not much to say just build cdr and duration maybe diviners kevlar and rescue beam

try to do some rends here and there and boom you are now supp drifty
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>>541859906
I will torment you and there's nothing you can do about it
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>preemptively parry against victor who has light meleed me 3 times in lane whenever i got close to him
>teammatee pauses randomly
god
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lanes are genuinely decided 80% of the time by someone just throwing a random heavy melee for no reason and i dont understand that
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>>541860478
>walk back to get something like monster rounds or healing rite
>lanemate ran up to them and got parried
>now seethes at you for the next 30 minutes
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>We will never get a female frontliner because homosexuals like >541860252 will cry about any cup sizes above a b.
It's so painful bros...
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>>541860478
I had this exact same thought a year ago but it's better now that you arent forced to last hit. Before it was just a matter of time until someone tried to melee a creep and someone dash jumped into it to parry you then win off that lol. It was actually so dumb playing those types of lanes.
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>>541860575
WHY DIDN'T YOU INSTANTLY TELEPORT TO MY LOCATION AFTER I FUCKED UP AND THEN PARRY BOTH OF THEM OFF OF ME
FUCKING SHIT TEAMMATES REEEEEEEEEE
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>>541860575
This happens to me so often when I'm laned with a tard on abrams or billy that i just lane swap now if i am put into a lane with one of those heroes
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What are some of /dlg/'s hopes for roster additions? Don't care about kits, just tell me what early 20th century archetypes you want to see show up
for me its a WW1 style soldier vet or something, maybe a French lineman
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>>541860735
>play against some hell lane like geist/viscous or geist/grey talon
>lanemate sits there at 5hp with no rite, no mrounds to push back lane
>later comes at me accuses me of doing nothing

it keeps happening and I don't understand it
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>try to heavy melee someone
>they parry
>but I accidentally whiffed so I'm able to punish them by spamming more melees
all according to plankaku
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>>541860829
could be your fault ngl, push the wave and it's a lot easier to dodge spells
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>>541860829
I hate this shit so much
>Get early pressure and a kill in lane
>My team just stays at low HP the entire time
>Half the time they bitch at me for being "afk" because I don't want to 2v1 while they refuse to buy any sustain
>Worst case scenario they KEEP PUSHING while low HP against great poke
I just don't fucking get it
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>>541860812
The fashion could be kino, would be cool if he had a gasmask and one of his attacks was a gas grenade
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>>541860478
>enemy throws heavy melee
>hah, I'm literally on the other side of the map, I don't need to parry
>boom, -5000 HP

>enemy parries randomly
>time to punish that as fast as possible
>one single dash and they're out of your range
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>>541860938
i'm the one with the mrounds and rite desperately pushing back the wave for space

>>541860939
I don't get it either. healing rite is way easier to use with all the cover in the new map.
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What is deadlocks policy on satananists? am i allowed to share things like upside down crosses and may I post sacrilegious things in the chat, or does valve care?
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>>541860812
Poppy from LoL, but a maid with massive tits.
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i think walkers should do more damage
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>>541860939
my favorite is the teammate that thinks your abilities have no cooldowns or infinite range.
had one guy think mo and krill can just disarm whenever he wants with no cooldown and then got mad at me for ulting the guy that was chasing him down as he was running away from me instead of towards me.
OH OF COURSE YOU ULT HIM AFTER I DIE, FUCKING RETARD.
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>>541861136
It's the same logic as people that only stack damage as the game goes on, they mistakenly believe they are losing out on potential damage by getting some greens when the reality is sustain and mobility ALLOWS you to output more damage because of increased survivability
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>>541861208
*inserts "clever" post about how walkers should walk around more"
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>>541861208
i think all objectives should be far more offensive
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>>541860812
Full on egypt occultism, borrowing power from a bunch of plundered artifacts.
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The black woman οf Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>541859806
>1930s-50s
>goth
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>>541861565
so when will mina get removed from the game?
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>enemy wraith is lazering people dead
>top hero damage in the lobby + top obj damage
>his profile
hey alright
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>>541861936
this is the most russian account I've ever seen
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>>541861936
>last launched his only other game the same-ish day he got vacced
>still able to participate in a closed alpha valve game test
bravo valve, bravo
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>>541860812
bride of frankenstein
mummy (all universal monster heroes really)
elevator girl
pulp inspired heroes
baseball hero
ww1 or 2 hero
perry mason lawyer hero
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>>541862056
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>>541861845
she's a vampire
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>>541861936
Someone shoot this guy
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>>541862312
and a goth...
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Scarecrow hero, or just a dude with a potato sack because that's peak
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>>541844669
You hit the orb in the same server tick as the enemy hit the orb. Last hits take precedence over denies, but this still triggers your on-hit effects for orbs.
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>>541860812
cryptids, chinese moustache twirling villain with broken english, a doll
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fucking oof. 3 of them had knockdown too which they would just do back to back on me
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Alright how's this for a hero concept
>some sort of monster
>trying to pass itself off as a regular person because they're actively being hunted by the Baxter society
>could be the person that actually killed heya hoya's family
Now to expand on the idea.
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the lion will do everything in his power to clutch victory from the jaws of defeat, but will lose anyways because vyper has the survival instincts of a pigeon
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we need a skinwalker toon
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>>541863002
>>541862921
What if we combine these, could be neat having grey talon's family's murderer be another native American.
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This game needs a collab with MGQ
>inb4 troon meltdown at the mere idea
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>>541863702
that ancient porn game?
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>>541863702
isn't that just ivy?
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>always thought the urn was like 1k souls per team member
>it's just like 600
Le ebin comeback mechanic. I'm sure buying two-thirds of the cheapest item in the game will help!!
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picrel says it all
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>>541863827
>>541863857
we need a lamia with huge tits and harpies that can abduct you for some "hard cc"
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>>541864006
Sullied by those two obvious leaver games
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What's the worst take you've ever seen in /dlg/? for me it's a tie between
>Guy that claimed Mo ult takes more skill than Vindicta ult
>Guy that said games should be longer and that only ADHD zoomers like games being shorter now
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>>541864168
There's more to skill than aiming so it's debatable. Vindicta is just "lol shoot them when they are low or in general". I can see the first one being true.

Second one is beyond retarded
>hmmm yes be trapped in a shit game for 60 mins that comes down to one retard over extending half the time
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>>541864168
I was gonna say that first one about mo ult but then this clown made this post

>>541863918
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>>541864375
>>541864168
Btw maybe the games could feel longer by speeding up laning, then you might get an extra 5 or so minutes of mid/late game.
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>>541864168
Does the retard gloating about using hacks count? If not then the guy who said he prefers Neon Prime's artstyle. That's not the most terrible opinion to have since its just preference but man. If there were like 200 people like him giving Valve feedback in those closed tests, we would be in a disaster
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>>541864168
not one person but the paradox downplaying early on in this general was mouthbreather tier
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>>541863702
>>541864043
Would be very based, but deadlock's prison gay community would throw a fit.
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fucking hate having a job i just want to play deadlock all day
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>>541864554
What did they end up fixing about her? I remember when it was like a full map screen wide swap that also stunned you for like 3 seconds as you sloooooooowly moved positions lmao. And people thought it was fair. Apparently that mikael s guy quit when they nerfed her too? I havent heard of him in a while
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>>541864698
>>541864006
work from home, i do and play when i want.
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>>541864712
They gutted her range long ago. Mikaels is also going to uni, which is why he gave up streaming.
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>>541864712
Her wall had fucking charges early on for one
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I think what a lot of newfriends dont understand is that the paradox downplay whining started from a place of unironically thinking carbine should be able to one shot people(it used to do that)
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>>541865002
But paradox EARNED that one shot by landing an ability with AIMING
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>>541865002
Carbine twoshots is the fairest part of her kit.
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I swear to god i`m just going to give up on trying to do anything in lane as Drifter. He's an awful combination of squishy and extremely easy to stay out of range from, you use your 1 to poke and it does no damage unless you're really close, and if you're really close you bet you're getting fucking raped. He can't trade, he takes forever to kill even a single trooper, he has shit poke. I feel bad for picking Drifter because i feel i'm just forcing my teammate to solo the lane
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>>541865380
Just ask for midlane, he is ass in the sidelanes. Once you git gud you will win half your lanes he actually CAN trade well you just have to be clever and good at parrying. People love to punch you win your rend in their face.
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>>541829740
i want my game to run this smooth what the fuck....
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>>541865380
>>541865475
also post your build, he's very item dependent. Try to get melee lifesteal then backstabber
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>>541863702
vyper is a massive missed opportunity aesthetically
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drifter in mid is so fucking annoying, can't ever kill the medium camps between waves
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>>541865912
I haven't ever played him, can you really hear the isolation heartbeat all the way from lane?
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The game isn't fun anymore. They removed all the fun.
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>>541866240
t. mina abuser
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>>541865979
NTA, but yes, and it's directional.
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>>541866240
4 lane was sovl
3 lane is sovless
payload mode will be sovl overload
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>>541866435
Is it confirmed it's payload? How would that work?
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>>541838960
Victor's 3 is useless, even before nerfs. You take a ton of damage for 5%(?) healing. Wowee— what an ability.
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>>541866435
I wonder how that will work. Will the store and troopers still be a thing? How do you mix MOBA and payload?
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>>541866650
Overwatch has a stadium mode. It's like multiple short rounds and you get money based on performance. Then you can surrender if one team gets too much money. I can see farming while the payload is pushing and contesting jungle while also not losing positioning. Valve could make it happen.
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>>541866435
Need 8v8 4 lane mode.
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>>541866264
I have never played her
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>8v8 moba
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>>541866650
no idea. it could be a payload mode like the overwatch one where both teams try to push the same payload back and forth on a symmetrical track into the enemy base
could also be a multilane payload where each lane has a payload that you try to bring all the way to the enemy base
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>>541822262
>gun Drifter who was shockingly effective
are you people pretending to be retarded or what
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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How the fuck do I counter infernus? His fucking fire deals a billion damage.
>oh just debuff remover
>he instantly applies it again
bro
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>>541867809
>Curse Infernus
>He dies
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>>541867809
Nobody knows, fuck me I wish there was a way to reduce his fire rate, maybe prevent him from shooting for a while, maybe even something to prevent on hit effects from proccing. If only...
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>>541867809
capacitor to purge his buffs then dps race him while he cant heal
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>>541868198
What
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>>541868230
if you cant understand what i said then that's the real reason you cant beat infernus you aint that nigga yet, my nigga
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FOR THE DJINNER
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>>541868050
>>541868009
>yeah bro, just build this 6400 souls item to stop it for three seconds
>what, that's too much money? Ok then buy this 3200 item to mildy inconvenience him for 4 seconds
Wow thanks!

>>541868198
>have an even worse idea!
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>>541868293
You're a ding dong
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>>541868548
>>541868569
capacitor is THE infernus counter
but it's true you have to be a hero that likes building it anyway
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Every time my manager treats me like shit I make a mental note to play a Kelvin game and pass down the suffering
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>>541868758
He used to be even more annoying if you can believe it
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>>541868802
Yes anon we all started last September
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>>541868859
i started two months ago
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>He didn't start last June
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Guys I'm struggling against [hero]
Recommend me an item under 1600 souls that hard counters them easily at every single stage of the game. Also no active items please that makes me mad.
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>Drifter Vyper into GT/Mina
>try to kill GT
>4 stamina LMAOOO, Dash jump, dash jump with a trap behind him
>try to shoot guardian
>-600 HP from Mina and GT burst
>they are perma sitting under guardian
unironically
literally
how do you push into this?
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Someone give me a good shiv video or replay that actually covers the recent patches. All the SHIV IS A BEAST kinda shit I find is old. OLD.
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>>541869047
If you manage to keep the wave pushed up to their tower you don't need to stress taking the guardian down. You'll get a big soul lead by having control of all the boxes and neutrals, sinners and golden jar things
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>>541869047
you can actually kill that lane
>land stalker mark
>vyper presses poison on them
>rend with spirit strike
>proc headshot
almost 100-0's them
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>>541869047
Some 2v2s you just can't pressure guardians. Wait for your team to decide they want their item slot and pull up with a rape squad
>b-but my team doesn't--
Then they're shit and you lost the matchmaking coinflip
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>>541848271
>Geist mommy in an open bathrobe with lingerie under
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>>541848271
do you think the carpet matches the drapes?
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Shiv better watch his ASS, he has some STIFF competition.
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i think the actual real biggest problem with this game is clarity
win or lose a fight there's no way i ever know what actually happened or what caused us to win/lose
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>>541869402
bleed
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>>541866979
What about 3 or 4 team MOBA?
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>>541869402
Don't think for one second youre better than me
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>>541869406
go to statlocker and look at the graphs
and despair
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>>541869498
Dota did that with their cavern crawl game mode and it was some of the most fun I ever had in a moba
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>>541869406
Play Paige. Hang back and observe fights, throwing buffs and debuffs from afar. You'll quickly realize what turns fights. Once you understand the key components, you can start using your debuffs (curse, knockdown, ultimate) to counter these keys. Lash ultimate is a good place to start.
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>>541869402
Bazz is so cool...
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>>541869406
it is kind of chaotic and hard to reflect on how fights ended up sometimes, but if you have zero clue? That's a you problem. I can definitely tell what lost us teamfights 80% of the time.
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>>541822939
my favorite poster
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>>541869862
I thought I was your favorite poster...
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>>541869920
I was lying to you all along
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Hear me out. Echo shard on spirit snare.
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>>541869964
>toxotranny is a literal fag
color me surprised
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>>541869406
It's easy. Do you see that retarded Wraith, Geist or Doorman doing fuckall in the jungle while everyone else team fights an equally retarded 5 v 6? It's them. They caused you to lose.
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>>541825645
Calico if she was in Concord
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>holidays gun sounds like a 50 cal
>40 damage
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>>541870348
Literally one of the most powerful guns in the game and doesn't need to be withing spitting distance, like the shotguns
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>>541819582
I dont get this game
>ivy
>victor
>paige
I just dont get this game at all
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outside of his hook, bebop actually sucks
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>>541871097
>outside of his insane guaranteed kill, bebop actually sucks
Oh word? And yet, infinitely better than pic related.
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mystic shot going on full duration cooldown on a miss makes no sense

the damage is almost always under 100 the whole game anyway that's like 12 dps max
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>>541871238
learn to aim
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>>541871206
>insane guaranteed kill
yeah if he coordinates with his team. bebop himself isn't going to do much unless he gets fed
if you die to a bebop 1 on 1 I don't really know what to tell you he's so painfully easy to escape or out damage
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>>541871238
it actually rewards good aim
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>>541871097
you forgot the beam
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>Aim community holliday and gay talon lane
Suffering.
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>>541871497
yeah rewarding with 10 dps woohoo
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>>541871508
I don't think the beam is that great it does a lot of damage but its really easy to avoid entirely. the aoe effect on the end of it doesn't even work half the time anyway
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How do I counter the bald nigger with cat
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>>541871238
yeah charged shot only does like 80 damage too and has a 17 second cooldown, that's only 5 dps
should refund if you miss
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Fuck Grey Talon, what a nigger character, what a fucking god awful kit to play against. We need draft mode so I can ban this fucker
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>>541871686
in lane or in the game? don't be close to her because she will instagib you with her bombs and swipe
ingame I guess curse if you really really really hate her 2 'get out of jail for free' cards
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>>541871686
Slowing hex cucks her 2 and 3
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>>541868489
why do faggots always make characters darker than they actually are
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>>541871970
and 4
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>>541870079
brooler cope
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>losing all game
>enemy team just staggers deaths one by one for no reason, we get rejuv
>they all respawn and one of them basically makes himself gankable just so he could farm a shitty neutral camp for 200 souls
>they all stagger in one by one again and we win the game
what a miserable way to lose.
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https://files.catbox.moe/oo21u7.jpg
lock
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>>541871895
GT+Paradox in a lane genuinely makes one suicidal
TOCK TOCK TOCK TOCK TOCK TOCK AIMING
BWOOOOOOM 500 damage in the first minute that you can't avoid unless you go afk
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>>541872152
pierced nips are gross
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>>541872152
horrid, kill yourself
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>>541871686
56% winrate at the highest mmr you cant counter he she is complete bullshit in every way
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>>541872015
some artists draw characters lighter. others darker. if this upsets you, grow up

>>541872152
sloppa
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>Drifter has been fed to the point he can 2shot everyone in our team
>down the Patron's 2nd phase
>they wipe because Drifter got cocky and ran into our spawnroom
>he respawns, we catch him 1v6 in our jungle
>take mid and win the game
somehow he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
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>>541872152
AY CARAMBA
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>>541844212
Paige first
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>>541872283
huh?
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>>541844392
calico was never bad she just wasn't op anymore so shitters like (You) stopped playing her and moved on to the next fotm meta hero
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Mina needs another buff.
She's too weak in late game.
Just remove her love bites cooldown on t3 instead.
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>>541872836
Someone said 56% but 53 is still really high
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>>541872958
Sorry anon she saw usage in pro play so she's not allowed to be good now
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>>541872836
>anon is off by just 3.24%
>3rd highest winrate
>ignores that pickrate is up 23%
>huh? I don't get it why are you saying this I don't understand??? can you explain wait I don't get it???
most honest calico player
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>>541872430
>some artists draw characters lighter.
nah it's always tumblrites like yourself drawing them darker. happens all the time with /co/ stuff.
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>>541872015
grown ass adult "man" crying about this btw
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>>541872836
most people arent in eternus and will never be, these stats are useless
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>>541873004
wasn't her one single use just an ultbot to delete objectives?
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>>541873026
ew you're a /co/fag no wonder you're so sensitive to trivial shit
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>>541873037
grown ass adult "man" crying about video games btw
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>>541873024
Lmao triggered retard, was just calling out a blatant lie I don't even play Calico. She's also 4th highest, Yamato is also above her.
>>541873046
Not much of a difference when sorting by Phantom+
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>>541873037
Cope harder fag, you'll never fix your life until you deal with your coal addiction
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calico being op is based cause of the nuclear meltdowns it causes here hope they let her get away with it as long as seven has
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Will Valve have to balls to add a Vaudeville hero in blackface?
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>>541873132
Aren't about 90% of people Alch and below?
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>>541872015
are you pretending to be a retarded newfag tourist or what?
that color choice is spot on.
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>>541873287
more like 70% but yeah
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>>541873190
>unironic, literal textbook projection
wowee
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>>541873214
guess you weren’t here for it but they already did that last year where she was server admin for months. there was even some weird interaction with her and lucky shot that melted people and they didn’t fix that for at least a month too. round 2 here we go
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https://litter.catbox.moe/pr9rq0l54w69ebme.mp4
how is she so fast
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/bad-matchmaking-thread.35834/post-160469

Lmao the delusion of some of these people. Guy averages >8 deaths and thinks his team is holding him back
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>>541873664
>open webm
>tranny gooner mod
>close webm
>prepare fingers to type "get cancer"
get cancer
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>>541873520
>n-no you
Boring
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>>541873664
didnt watch but kill yourself
>>541873715
You should check the same topic on dota2 forum, every other thread is a ''MMR is broken'' and ''I was put in low prio for no reason'' salt mine
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>>541873715
>407 pages
>8,100 replies
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>>541873664
there should be a tag on your account so i know your using weeb skins so i can call you a faggot
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>>541829128
wow its almost as if this shitty beta game is dead already lol
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>valve game
>hero has some form of retarded anti aim mechanics

That's why russnoids can take ukraine lmao.
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>>541874463
>>541874034
>>541873745
:(
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>>541874278
thread's a whole year old now.
it's just a containment thread because people have been bitching about matchmaking since the dawn of time.
people were making threads about it all the fucking time so this was their solution.
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>>541875039
Shame is a good thing, its a natural feeling to remind you to not be a raging faggot that society would rightly shun
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>>541875094
I just can't imagine being so salty after a match that I dash off to the Official Feedback Forums to whine straight to the devs. I of course don't expect they read anything there. Good thing to, look how nasty that most recent poster is.
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>>541875094
Ok but the matchmaking in Deadlock is ACTUALLY fucked up.
From what I've seen it likes to think that as long as the "average" team rating is roughly similar then its okay. But then it throws 2 oracles and a bunch of seekers up against a full team of Emissaries or Archons or some shit, and says "meh, averages out" whilst the one team gets butt fucked.
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>>541875114
why don't you like honse?
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>>541875236
>honse
you're a grown ass fucking man typing this shit out
get a fucking grip.
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>>541875385
fun and whimsy is never dead!
not even when you have games with a 0/7/2 seven and 0/5/1 mina on your team
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We are back
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>>541875203
Thats how every matchmaking ever works. They could tweak it to be tighter but players chimp out if qs are longer than 30 seconds

The only fix for matchmaking is more players
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>>541875203
the game probably needs like 5x more players for matchmaking to truly even out.
sometimes you just lose.
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>>541876536
God how are ALL Mina fags either obnoxious trannies or porn addicted annoying as fuck gooners whos porn addiction is their entire personality?
fucking hell, Mina was a mistake.
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>>541875203
I don't even get how this game has so much worse matchmaking than dota. Also, why doesn't it show who's stacking? They have that in dota.
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>>541866264
nta but i still find mina really fun and still good
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>>541877587
are you a mina gooner
or a mina aimlabs movement gamer
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metro banned on twitch, wat nou?
(does anyone know why)
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>>541878020
this is probably way more of an autistic answer than you were looking for but while i don't grind out aimlabs/kovaaks or movement practice in sandbox mode i do enjoy the process of getting better, i just prefer doing it over the course of playing games normally (the new rake float is fun as fuck). i really enjoy how slippery you can be with this character, i enjot her damage output, and she's also a qt vampire as a bonus so really she's everything i can ask for if i need someone to main in a character-focused shooter (i tend to pick based on design then learn their playstyle from there)
>cute/visually appealing design in general
>deals way more damage than their design would imply
>absolute fucking headache to deal with if played well
that said i 100% would fuck mina if given the chance but i don't really jack off to r34 to me it's like accidentally seeing someone you know naked
tldr; both, kind of
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>>541878278
Someone in chat ragebaited him again and he started the fourth reich
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>>541878859
that cuck would start the anti-reich if anything
anyways I looked it up and there was a danger alert for a chemical explosion near his area so he had to leave, no idea why that got him banned though
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>open deadlock official discord
>some guy talking about non human intelligence that lives on the moon
>he's not trolling
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I just don't understand the mind of a "pro" streamer
>Watching Eido, who is genuinely pretty good and typically not that annoying
>He's playing shiv
>Does well in his lane
>Ends up taking 3 really bad dives in other lanes for no reasons
>Jokingly just says he got bored
>Decides to take side lane to farm vs at that moment Haze who is only 2k ahead
>Gets melted
>Goes deep into the lane lane with no disregard despite complaining "she's fed"
>Dies to warden + Haze
>Goes deep into the lane
>Dies exact same way
>Haze is now up 6k on him
>"What did you guys do over here!?" (referring to the teammates who had the lane at the start of the game)
>"The game is over, I can't do anything, I can't play the game"
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>>541879425
They play the game so much they literally arent thinking at all it's just auto pilot.
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>>541879264
it's rabbits
on the moon
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>>541879425
>I'll just outskill him in this 1v2 I've won these situations befor-
which sometimes works and generates clips for youtube views
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>>541879264
schizo character when
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>>541868489
Pretty sure the whole joke about this is that Mirage doesn't understand that hot dogs have pork in them.
Inversely, it would be funny if he wouldn't try a hamburger because it has "ham" in its name.
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>>541879779
considering he's literally contracted to a djinn I doubt he's muslim
not a practicing one, at least.
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>>541878278
are we finally rid of this dumbfuck?
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>>541875236
>honse
>buenny
>doggo
Insufferable faggotry on full display, learn to type you kindergarden reject
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i think the actual main thing holding back the gun meta is projectile speed.
even on characters with fast bullets it feels like shit sometimes and all of the projectile speed items suck ass.
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>>541879264
Based schizoposter
>>541877463
People talking about sexy character attracting people should specify what type of sexy and what kind of players they would want to attract. Mina has invited absolute dogshit retards, imagine having global 40% wr and 90& pr on this broken ass hoe, Valve should have baited someone who aren't into egirls and insta thots
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Why is Victor top winrate in low MMR but has shitty winrate on high? I've never seen him doing well in my pisslow. Same with Drifter, I expected him to be more of a pubstomper.
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>>541880798
dumbasses over commit onto a guy with two lives and stand on top of his shit

high mmr players dont
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>enemy loses tower at 2 minutes
>one of them leaves and the game becomes unscored
funny, but why the fuck is that allowed?
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>>541879425
Most of them try to make content around stomps and smart plays, but they act like divas when they get outplayed or show their audience that they are just not always the best. These bitches will find any excuse to avoid admitting they just made a shit call or took a bad fight. It's not even surprising considering most of them end up playing M1s and flashy heroes like Shiv or Paradox.
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>>541880945
Yeah but two lives mean nothing when each of those will sustain you for about 2 seconds vs any M1 nigger. Its the same as Mina, literally never seen this cunt carry a game yet people complain about him nonstop.
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Who scales better, Mina or Mirage?
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>>541881294
Mirage and its not even close
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>>541859990
I'm doing much better now as a spirit/utility focus build. I figured out the reason all those early games were such huge losses is just due to being dead weight. I would always go rescue beam & healing cube build. Which yeah feels awesome but still doesn't contribute as much as playing a braindead hero like Paige or McGuinness and pressing a couple buttons.

The other thing is I had like 30 hours in the game so I am just very bad in general
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>>541859805
Sounds outrageously based. Looking into it, thanks Anon
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>>541860160
Haven't really considered adding in rescue beam when doing an otherwise gun or spirit build. Sounds like a great buy desu
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>>541858013
His ult builds are better, just spectate Phantom+ the alt build disappear and its only ult
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>>541879779
Bro is simping for the muslim equivalent of a devil/demon, I don't think he's worried about sunnah or halal
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>>541873664
I like your rice shower mod
But not that deltarune thing you added which looks to be replacing unsecured farm
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Doorman is just a better version of Holiday. He even has a larger bullet, which she desperately needs.
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>>541883842
If Holliday had an easier time getting headshots people would lose their fucking minds
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October 23, 2025
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>>541880798
Low MMR games are mostly uncoordinated, if you let Victor get to 30k souls and don't get items and coordinate abilities to counter him he becomes an unstoppable retard.
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>>541883983
What the fuck am I supposed to do until then yoshit?!?!
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>>541883983
What is this? New patch release?
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>>541881813
>mirage
Only if you're going gun.
Mina scales MUCH harder early and stays stronger if you go Spirit on her.
The ONLY gun item Mina wants is ricochet to proc more bats, and you don't buy that until your spirit build is complete.
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>>541883983
post a leak if you're so good
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>>541884952
>scale
>earlier

Idk if esl but scale refers to late game normally. Even still, spirit mirage scales harder, the mark if stacked fully has the 2nd highest scaling in the game at 2.5x spirit, with ricochet in a teamfight you are getting sometimes 10x for each spirit
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>>541885116
spirit haze scales harder because dagger has 2.6 spirit scaling
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>>541873664
cute skin! By the way, you can turn on "streamer mode" when looking at replays so no one can see your username
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Should they boost Bebop?

I mean isn't it stupid how there's GEIST with tons of damage and she's easy to play. And then there's Bebop who can't suck your life, swap health or drop bombs on the other side of the map. Why is he so lame? Maybe bigger bomb scaling at least, please?
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>>541885196
Yes, technically and pendatically correct, spirit haze dagger scales very well

If you are done being disingenuous then maybe see why the mark to lovebite comparison is more relevant
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>>541885380
I will accept one specific buff, he should be able to cancel is hook while the target maintains momentum, so he can throw people

It would be kino for teamplay and griefing and it wouldnt be op because an alert enemy could just dash to cancel the momentum
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>>541835140
Yo a Ringmaster skin?!?
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>>541885380
this is how you know this general is full of shitters
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>>541835140
I fucking hate this community and Valve's approach to hats
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>>541885926
elaborate
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>>541885380
they can't buff bepop because he has a hook so he'll always be good
ubless they actually nerd the hook but it seems to be a running theme that 1 hero is completely ruined and nerfed into the ground because they have 1 inherently overpowered ability which is the main reason they are always overpowered that for some mysterious reason never gets properly nerfed
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Turned out Paige is imba as hell in low ranks.
Enemies always forget about the shield + extra fire rate + extra damages and thought they are in a fair fight and have a chance to win against whoever I'm protecting.
If my team is not retarded and run away from fight, my team will win 80% of the fight with me there supporting them.
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>>541859906
>>541860069
>>541860363
I don't know how voice lines worked in Dota but surely if they're just proximity based it wouldn't be that bad in Deadlock, since you're not gonna be near those players most of the time anyways.
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>>541886545
Quit smurfung, faggot.
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>>541886274
There are exactly two types of people in this general
>bebop is op in good hands because of his hook/bombs/ult/whatever, if you disagree you're bad at the game
>bebop is dogshit and is too easy to counter, if you disagree you're bad at the game
Both are initiate
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>>541886667
bepop is shit but he has the hook so he can always be useful to a team, one good hook should be enough to get a free kill which eventually leads to winning a team fight, or winning lane or whatever
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>>541886634
Not my fault the matchmaking is broken and I'm stuck in Initiate bullying retards.
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>>541886667
It's more that bebop is just not fun at all to play against, that's about it really.
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>people compare Mirage (who is an M1 spam hero) to Mina (who is an ability spam hero who HAPPENS to have an M1)
lol no
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>>541886667
>>bebop is dogshit and is too easy to counter

it's this one
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>>541886580
Voice lines are fine, you can mute them. Taunts aren't, you should not be able to change the direction your hero is facing AND move at the same time using taunt, taunts should have locked you in place. 2 min cd they have right now are certainly overkill.
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>>541886091
schizo tier image formatting
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>>541886890
>>541886890
>>541886890
>>541886890
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>>541886839
This cat is lying, I call people niggers all the time but the nightmare doesn't end
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>>541886760
I think that's consistently the one good thing all moba hookers have
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>>541886580
You can spam them you like could ping "Thanks" or "Headed to Blue" in Deadlock, except they play globally for both teams and they're usually some fucking obnoxious chinky or wetback commentator bubblering the most annoying fucking sounds known to man.
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>>541884952
I've tried Ricochet and I just didn't like it on Mina. I feel like Cultist is better for farm, and she's all about single target burst



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