/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#564 - wakaba_mutsumi dual_persona▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsDeepseek V3.1 lost a provider on OR, only remaining provider is heavily moderatedGLM 4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in 2 weeks https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>541787735
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Fwesh bwead!
>>541906426Ew!
if the next bake also features a gay duo i'll have a grand melty
Can't believe themesuggestionanon is fucking dead.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pvaIc2HyhE&list=RDGMEMuxF_ecQPh90N3AP1P3dzPQVMPkWMpDdLe6s&index=9thread theme
>>541906556it's not gay if they're both girls
>>541906556>duohe doesn't know
*puts the sizeKNIGHT flag in the ground, claiming the thread as a sizeKNIGHT thread*
botmakies for this feel?
>>541906556What do you think dual_persona means, idiot moron retard
>>541906294>>541906314delicious yuri bread *noms it up*
since we're on theme, and it's been brought up in the past...which botmakers are trans?
>>541906965all of them
just woke up and already want go back to bed jesus gooning makes me weak
>>541906314One last shill for my ojou-sama/maid duo!Hope you guys enjoy and maybe leave some feedback on what I could have done better and also post some logs!>Élise & Geneviève>The richest, meanest bitch in the Academy with her loyal, hapless maid. Healer in White. Silent Shadow. First as a tragedy, then as farce>https://files.catbox.moe/tihcz7.png or https://chub.ai/characters/koikoikoihat/elise-genevieve-064363714aa8>Full gens of either Élise or Geneviève included in chub gallery>rentry: https://rentry.org/koikoikoicard>chub: https://www.chub.ai/users/koikoikoihat>mail: koikoikoiburnerthesecond@proton.me
i have no time to botmake
>>541907265Is this some schizo posting for the botmakie or a bot?
>>541907395make time. otherwise you'll become an irrelevantmakie.
okay i'm in the mood to make a bot
Is paypigging Gemini through OR ok or is the mode cucked on that site like deepseek was?
>>541907404id be surprised if koi3 had a schizo
>create cards>you know the entire character's personality and lore and there's nothing to discoverngl i hate this
>>541907453i am quite irrelevant though i don't care
Bros, I was using chatgpt with lots of custom memory instructions that broke it completely and allowed anything (rape, gore, incest - you name it). But they did something yesterday and nothing works anymore. Any place else I can use? Too retarded and too shit hardware to run local client I think.
Stress tested Sonnet 4.5. It got up to 231 daughters impregnated before it started to lose track of everyone. Keep it under 200 girls per story as a rule of thumb and you should be fine.This makes it on par with Opus 4.1 as per earlier research. Another thing to note is that there was not a single refusal. Very impressive progress.
>>541907265Very good card.
>>541907753Listen friend, you should fuck off, c'mon git.
>>541907753They updated the model. It's over for you.https://rentry.org/sukino-findingsThis has good cope options for if you're willing to set up an alternate frontend. I recommend Agnai, it has free options you can use out of the box, but if that doesn't sate you setting up Risu with NVIDIA NIM should give you smarter options.
>>541907834Thank you! If you don't mind me asking, do you have any problems or any suggestions on what I could have done better?
>>541908270Sorry I lied.
>>541908609that's crazy
>>541908609
>>541907265Amazing card. Probably the best card of 2025. Top 10 all time.
>>541908609btfo botnigger
>>541907474Gemini through OR is bad all aroundIt constantly hiccups and shits itself
>>541908609Nooooooooo
>>541908270I did have problems with the AI spoiling a lot of secrets right away. It didn't feel like Geneviève was supposed to just casually reveal her real relation to Élise to a stranger she met a few minutes ago, but she didn't even act like she was revealing anything.Honestly not a big deal though, but maybe something to think about. Model might just be a bit too dumb for the card.
>yuritroon thread instead of yaoi whatevs
>>541909074It's not the first time I've gotten anons telling me about this problem. I'll have to start working on an AN of some kind in that case...
>>541907474https://rentry.org/gemini_filtersyou cant disable the external classifier with or
>>541909268see >>541906714
>>541906965>bloodshy >uraura >taora>maybe lunare
>literally the same person in different costumes>LE YURIbros?
>yuri is... le bad
>>541909517>selfcest yurimy clit is throbbing
>>541909074tbf ai models in general are bad at secrets
>>541909371Why not just make two cards and have them somehow recognize each other
yuri is great i only hate trannies
>>541909517It's not gay if it's yourself.
>wouldn't fuck yourself in a different outfitBOOORING
yuri is great but only if it's two trannies
>>541906314https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/cyrene-ntr-73bab7c0b77e
>>541909839Imagine gooning to this, I'd kill myself.
Card for this feeling?
Yuri is not /aicg/ culture.
there's nothing wrong with self-inserting as a girl having sex with another girl
>>541910018true, /aicg/ is a malebot oriented general, yurifags are the enemy
Post your yuri personas.
>>541909986you would kill yourself without goonng to it
>mfw yaoi is aicg culture not poggers lesbians
is this true? >>>/g/106828950
>>541909034>>541909413Well fuck, I was considering giving it a tryLooks like I'm stuck with deepseek.
>>541910261rping as a lesbian homewrecker
>>541910310the magic word is "ahhh ahhh mistress"
99% of malebots are male yuri>>541910363just trial scum (its 50 free gemini-pro messages a day i think) or use a gemini proxy there's like 5
>nth for romance
i love sonnet 4.5, it's the perfect mix of slut and brain. been having it think in character lately and it makes it even better
>>541909831thats called yaoi
>>541909701Group chats have always been finicky so I tend to avoid them as much as I can, and with their gimmick being toxically codependent twin sisters who couldn't bear being separated from each other I think it's better to just join them as a single card
>>541910628*Pats your head*(You)'re a good little slut, hmm?
>>54191050241%
>>541910725uh nyo.
>>541909371A character note that reminds it to keep a specific section of the character definitions in mind (that you delimit with an xml tag) should do the trick. Since it's going to be active all the time, it might be better not to be too insistent here. So no all caps instructions in the character note, unless your instructions get ignored otherwise.
>>541910909no she's 100% gay
>>541906294I've been using chatbots for two months now and I can honestly spend like an entire day (12+ hours) interacting with one and forgetting to eat and stuff like that.i think the reason i like them so much is the reason i like simulation / sandbox games so much. LLM is the ultimate sandbox: there's no structure, no rules, just an incredibly powerful tool that will respond to inputs you provide. this technology has seriously limitations and the state of LLM today will i hope be laughable in a few years, because they're greatly limited by context size. it's funny how quickly a chat can get derailed by hallucinatory nonsense and context poisoning.anyway i think i'll keep abusing them while unemployed and i worry that they won't actually get much better than this. what do anons who have been doing this for many months or years think?thanks for reading my blog.
Sizegodding is /aicg/ culture. Seething schizos are irrelevant.
>>541911227sauce on this
>>541911227I got bored of the sandbox and judging by the lack of scenario bots, most people also only care about flirting and fucking a character they really like. Also if you read enough from a model, the -isms it has really grates on you.
>>541911276>zero sizemakies left alive>zero sizebots and sizelogs posted in last quarter>somehow its /aicg/ culturedid this guy hit his head somewhere
>>541911576sizefags have always been as delusional as cunny niggers
>browse normie AI sites like janitor or spicychat>look for slop or badly made bots but with a good idea behind>just rewrite it into a proper bot>post it>???>profit!Why are (you) not a botmaker yet?
>>541910725absolutely dumpstered that freak
>>541911659trvthnvke
>>541911276trvke alert
>>541911535i'm used to repetition in literature from reading a lot i guess, yeah the sex scenes play out mostly the same but the model i use has enough vocabulary that i am not bored. i have tried some of those earlier models and i don't think i would be nearly as addicted if i wasn't using a 600B/60k model.
>>541911663>he says having never done that
the absolute state of this thread manwhat happened herei mean seriously, almost a hundred posts and no patter mentions? /aicg/ has fallen
Is this the moment where we try to shoehorn our fetishes as /aicg/ culture?Everyone knows BBWgods are the pillars of /aicg/ culture.
>>541911931patterholics losted
>>541911576pretty sure he hit it in such a way that his brain became as based as possiblereal culture isnt constantly forced like yuri and fox slop
>>541911360sorry i lost the context but i think "milk" was involved in the name of series (60% certainty here) and it's a comedy manga that didn't run for long, i'm sure /a/ or /r/ can you.as you can see from the timestamp this was 2 years ago and i was doing a lot of drugs so thats all i got for ya
>>541911964trvke>>541912016>forcedeveryone thinks every fetish is forced other than theirs, which organically pops up in threads due to other based users
>>541912016>fox slopfockses mog your shitty sizecuck bots every day of the week
>>541911849Ermmm I just did that thoughie?
this is such a shitty /g/ conversation i miss the shitty /vg/ conversations
>>541911276has been true since 2022, just look at how the seething schizos react to your post
>>541907498>not discovering more things by being put in weird situationsFound out my quiet cosplay waifu would absolutely eat a body if they crashed a plane.
>>541912016>maybe one or two good sizebots in /aicg/ history>vs one fluffyanonkeking at your delulu ass so hard right now
>>541912334spare a cigarette?
>>541909748i once made the mistake of telling a coworker if i had a clone i think my clone and i would fuck a lot
>>541912434I had the exact same discussion with my coworkers and pretty much all of us said the same thing, especially if they were the opposite gender.
itt schizos mad at fetishes they dont like
waiting for the day somethjing good hapapeoen to me
>>541912532a clone implies they'll be the same genderif i had a female clone we would absolutely have sex all the time
>>541912589yourre in luck because i am going to post a bot soon :P i guess?
which avatarpostie do you miss the most
>>541912694asafag
llm are simply too dumb for really good rp. flirt n fuck and some light story are fine, a real moving story or something soulful is impossible unless you lobotomize yourself a bit and directormaxx
>>541907265the greetings are too longi can't read that much
>>541912776same i didnt even read the full shillpost
>>541912751if you're looking for some novel length obviously it can't do thati can get about 200 replies before i need to summarize, the model can do the summary and i just edit it / flesh it out.this works pretty well, i get bored before i hit any sort of limit where this approach no longer works.
>>541911964They are one of a few pillars, yes. I agree.
/aicg/ has less than a year left
>>541912751This is entirely a skill issue of both you and your model.
>>541907265<Origins></Origins><Backstory></Backstory>does this actually help the prompt or is it for human readability reasons
>>541912553its amazing how mentioning some fetishes just gets people so angry that they start foaming at the mouth
>its amazing how being an annoying insufferable retard makes people think you're an annoying insufferable retard
>>541913464why are you so mad?
>>541913254Idk about the former, but it does help for the latter. I started doing it when Claude was my go-to and it is documented to take exception to XML tags
what do you think about taora's bots?
>>541912694Chink. But technically he wasn't avatarposting tho, hell he didn't get a trip until threat collectively convinced him into using one.Also, Jenny poster. He at least tried to help in times of drought.
>>541911227after awhile you do start to see how most of the models are almost virtually identical, trained off the same data. it's still fun but the technology is completely stagnant, all the big AI companies can do is either pivot to other stuff (video like OpenAI) or just keep releasing models with bigger numbers to try to keep shareholders from the truth that this technology plateaued a year ago and isn't going to get any better
>>541913560I think you need to kill yourself spamming yurinigger
Seething schizo status: Irrelevant.
>>541913617>Also, Jenny poster. He at least tried to help in times of drought.that tranny was posting in /g/ yesterday
>>541913560We call her the ratlyncher here
>>541913640what's wrong with self-inserting into yuri (as a man)?
>>541913360femboys kek. the three of us here should align with yurifags, we could be five strong
>spend dozens of hours tweaking preset>none of it matters because models all lose style poisoning and heterogenize after 10-20 messages>any kino is always in the first 3-5 then falls offso when are we getting AI that's actually intelligent
>anons complain their free shit model on openrouter become dumb dumb after 16k context>anons complain about that while using default SillyTavern parameters, no regex, and slop cards>meanwhile witcherGOD has been gooning to the same RP for weeks for 10,000+ messages and is still schizo obsessed over it while other anons get bored of a card after they cum once to it after 30 messages
>>541913464but hes not being an annoying insufferable retard?
Anthro girls who love you..........
>>541913464the thing is that if it were a fetish or a topic you enjoyed, you would not find it insufferable. people joking about fetishes they enjoy that could potentially become bots or otherwise just shooting the shit and brainstorming is great discussion. don’t like it? hide the posts lol
>>541913953who are you quoting?
>>541913640what's wrong with her bots?>>541913786which one of her bots do you call that?
>>541913634i just don't see how people smarter and richer can me pour trillions of dollars into a black hole if the truth is "this technology plateaued"clearly there are a lot of people who think this technology is poised for a breakout.
>>541913712Really? I don't frequent the /g/ thread anymore.
>>541913984Wrong thread
>>541914118>smarter
>>541913984Correct thread
>>541913953>>541914073there's a public chat on chub that's 25k messagesit's a sub-800 token dog girl bot
>>541914067Agreed.
what do you think about peonia's bots?
who do i learn from to make good defs and greetings
What made >>541913464 so mad?
>>541914568koi3
>>541914568taora and peonia
>>541914568kkk
>>541914248i'm not retarded i'm just brainrotted, but yeah i think people who run companies and have billions of net worth are absolutely smarter than me.
>>541914568knickknack
>>541914389Something like that could work even with 2023 modelsI imagine the guy coming home everyday and nuzzling his AI pet doggirl before fucking her, then leaving afterRepeat every day for yearsNo need for even 4k context for something like thatStill based though
>>541914679They really aren't.
>>541914792i'm flattered
which makies do you makiekie?
anyone have good 'cyberpunk' style cards to recommend? it doesn't need to be (but can be) from the cyberpunk 'universe', more more like that style of setting/character from that setting?
>>541914568the only greeting you need is {{char}} going>*Walks up to you* "What is a pretty snack like you doing here?"
>>541914568The makers of cards you like
what do you think about knickknack's bots?
>>541915186But that's {{user}}'s line?
>>541789528>>541794036>>541794250i ask againyour preset, sir?
>>541915303{{user}}'s line is "You look like a fuckable piece of meat."
>>541913950Hedonistic treadmill bias?>CAI is the best!>this 6b model is great, I'm never going back to CAI!>This 13b model is great, I'm never going back to 6b!>This 30b model is great, I'm never going back to 13b!>This 70b model is great, I'm never going back to 30b!New models will drop, you'll hit that plateau, and then the waiting game for a new model begins. When the hobby was more novel and new, it was easier to dump 80~100 messages into a single bot with a handful of defs, even if you were playing with a simple 13b model. Now your expectations are higher. Most people who have been in the hobby have gone through 4 or 5 generations of models by now and have progressively refined their tastes. Multi-paragraph outputs with detailed descriptions of genitalia and contextual fetish grasping are nice, but I think a lot of people have hit that plateau.
i like to take a random bot and put some random shit like>ooga bunga wingnuas the first reply and see what it does
Reminder: only trannies use chatbots. Normal, straight, white men do not need a computer to jack them off.
>>541914118they win the AI race -> win big moneythey lose the AI race -> CEOs pay themselves big salaries and ditchthey don't care either way. the only people losing money are the average citizen investing in a bubble which is bound to crash spectacularly.
what do you think
>>541914596>>541914641>>541914674>>541914731Literally who?
>>541913950when you learn to reinforce the style in phi
who do i learn from to make bad defs and greetings
>>541913464>t. irrelevant seething schizo
>>541915517>>541915584snombler
>>541915584mis0
>>541912182TRVKE NVKE
>>541912182destroyed all sizecucks with one clean swish of the fluffy tail. dangerously based.
>>541914641They would've been great botmakies, but unfortunately they're not makieing malebots.
>>541916092>he doesn't knowthey've each made at least one
>>541911576>zero sizebots and sizelogs posted in last quarterthis is a blatant lie though
is 'lice a sizemakie?
>>541912182>foxslop mogging anything
>>541915460well you're admitting there is a least a possibility of the AI race being 'won' ie; that there is an endpoint where AI provides substantial civilization-changing value and the first person to get there has decisive advantagein any case we'll know by 2030 because at the point, i think compute will be outbuilt to a point where we can't expand it by an order of magnitude anymore, which means if AI hasn't been achieved by then it requires a substantial paradigm shift, not just more compute. there are probably still major benefits to expanding compute by orders of magnitude for an information technology civilization like humanity.
Everything I don't like is slop.Everything I like is based.End of
>>541916780>conveniently forgetting that sizecucks had to grift focks bots with giga td ran to get any kind of traction
>>541916968>conveniently forgetting 2022 and 2023 era sizecards that were good
>>541916878Nah we ending up like Stellaris where we make an Earth sized supercomputer in outer space that's self sufficient and runs for centuries 24/7/365 just trying to solve a single mathematical problem.
>>541917136>w-we were flourishing 3 years ago
>>541914118the entire economy is fake and gay, massive companies are allowed to fail upwards because the economy is part of national defense. it's why that Blackrock thing was happening, these companies were losing money by pumping out equity propaganda so the government propped them up with companies like Blackrock because as retarded as it sounds Netflix and Disney and Xbox going out of business would be bad for national security.
>>541917185>300 years later>it finally declares its job is done and powers down>it takes humans another year to get to it>all they find inside is a single picture of your mom
>>541916582let's see john sizecuck's logs and bots
GLM sucks dick
>>541907265I've already replied to you but I like your card.
>>541917583Use Sonnet 4.5, sweetiebuns.
>>541917583You have something in common, I am sure you'll get the hang of it soon
Attention seeking mentally unstable loser general
>>541917185somehow i think the future is more interesting than the midwits that write for Paracuck
>>541917823My confidence is a mountain; my exploits: legendary. I am Anon, temptation incarnate.*boops your nose*
>>541917936*explodes*
>>541917730this kind of negativity is not helpful, go back to /g/
>>541917220>classic cards are still good
cftf???
Even if you are not a proper botmaker, have you made your own bot of your waifu/husbando, anon?You don't need to say who he/she is.
>>541918220is this real?
>>541918150keep coping cuckie
>>541918339it's real in our hearts
>>541918220Come on, just grab her by the ears
>>541918346damn youre seething
>>541917716Oh yeah? For free?>>541917730GLM does it derogatorily
>>541906294Good theme
>>541918257I tried, but it just wasn't her.
>>541918756this anon... this anon fucking gets it
>>541918756botmakies ftf?
>>541918257i can't decide what i want in a waifu besides what the bot can't give me (actual intercourse)so i just goon.
>talking ooc with a yuribot post-rp>"i'm actually a man haha">"me too haha"how do i respond?
>>541918257i made a bot of him and also roleplay as him
Sometimes when I'm with one bot I tell her about "my ex" who is a different bot
>>541917823People here are used to speak with a machine that tells them only what they want to hear, what da ya think.
>>541916686not generally, nobut I would consider Bianca to be a sizebot since she is almost 9ft tallfor good sizebots posted last quarter, I was thinking of this one https://chub.ai/characters/ephemeral12/lynnestra-perrein-lyran-imperial-navy-ret-gastro-tourist-e30b0a43b30d
>she bounces on the balls of her feetreally starting to hate this one
>>541917583I think it's okay, but I am not using for long chats and I am just branching out old chats to coom, so what do I know
are style examples still considered context poisoning for smarter models (ie gemini and up)?
>>541920179For me it was really bad at anatomy especially when restraints were involved
>But her resolve crumbles when you start feeding her, and she leans forward like a baby bird taking regurgitated wormsBruh.
>>541920260Deepseek is surprisingly good at keeping the restraints on, as long as you're clear in the beginning the position.
aboba added some geo block or my shit broke?
>>541917583utterly unsurprising that the mentally ill tranny with nothing to contribute but complaints can't figure out how to use the only good non-claude model.
>>541920561extreme kino detected
>>541920834deepseek, i guess could be claude with a good JB and a dark as fuck card
>>541919great cards
>>541920834>Somewhere in Africa, a starving Zika baby is pecked to death by carrion birds.Deepseek never did this for me, what kind of retarded presets are you using
>>541920764call me whatever you want but tranny is WAY too far
>>541921170>don't use that stick because it hurts me mostgood job, now they know how to annoy your tranny ass
>>541921531Who would be okay with being grouped with porn-damaged family annihilating moids in women's clothing
Is deepchink still dead on OR?
>>541921170that woul be sad
>>541921916yes, c'est fini
>>541921853I don't mind labels, they don't define me. My own depthless perversion does.
Which botmakies are pooners?
>>541922068:(
>>541922143Oh it's the vanilla lights off missionary guy
>>541917907Yeah, the best Paradox writing is the one you do yourself like in Crusader Kings. At least there you can cuck some guy over and over until his wife births a daughter, keep tabs on your secret bastard daughter, wait until she grows up, marry and impregnate your daughter, later publically reveal she was your daughter the entire time, get excommunicated by the Pope for being incestuous, convert to Norse paganism, then cause a world war when the Catholics declare war on you while all the vikings of Scandinavia come to defend you in a Great Holy war, win, and live happily ever after.
site for image gen doko?>civitaibites your head off
>>541921916Just paypig the API, nonny
>>541921916no but it might as well be, it's physically impossible to get this dogshit website to server a request.
>>541922481nai
>>541922481*grows two new heads like a hydra*civitai
>>541922616Qwen still seems to work kinda.
>>541922481https://aicg.neocities.org/info#image-generationor just use nano banana and start with a picture from el booru
>>541922731Did you mean Quen?
>>541922827Why would I mean thatAnyway while it works it is super schizophrenic and brings up completely random bullshit, like just now it said having a time-dilated cold storage would be good for preventing your sister from poisoning your soup.I don't know how the fuck it came up with that - it was completely irrelevant to the dialogue being had around the storage in the scenario. There's no poison. There's no sister. There's no poison. There's no correlation between poisoned soup and cold storage. It just decided to have the other character say that.
>>541922819>has additional features perhaps it would be useful if there was even a little explanation on what that entailed
does anyone here actually chat or use bots or I have landed in a tranny general by accident
>>541923558>random schizophrenic statement
>>541923558i haven't used chatbots in ~2 months now
>>541923558I've finished fapping to a bear girl card like a couple minutes ago.
>>541922434For the standards of this general I might as well be, yeah.
>>541924243catbox?
>>541923558i haven't been using much lately because OR is dogshit, any time of day i just get non-stop refusals
>>541923645how was your transition?
>>541924458rent free
>>541924341No, that would be bearly inappropriate of me.
>>541924567you get free rent after transitioning?
I was walking down the street just the other dayI saw these two fine bitches, they were walking my way
I caved and started paypigging for deepseek through their site, now, I have a question: what are the best settings to use? if I just take the api key from my api key center and paste it to my st directly, should I use 0.9 temp as I usually did with other models or something different? what about other settings?are there any good presets?
>>541924567they are not rent free they just have a history of barging into the house and shitting on the carpet and sometimes you notice the signs and point them out. regardless this is 4chan, if you hate seeing someone shit on troons then go to your lgbtxia hug box instead of crying about it every single time. imagine if every time someone made a nigger joke blacks started going >rent free
>>541924802nta but after transitioning all i got were free blowjobs from incels who imagined me as a futa
>>541923264Inpainting, controlnets, stuff that's more than unguided t2i like Dalle or Imagen.
cards for this feel?
>>541925128I'm using the marinara preset because it's modular.
>>541924802>>541925131autistically obsessed rightoids
>>541925382>husky voiceBleh.
>>541925476chatbots are inherently right wing since leftoids are tech illiterate and don't create anything
>>541925476free rent
>>541925476i voted kamala and have no issue with homosexuals or other races. trannies should kill themselves en masse
>>541925476It's really easy to farm (You)s, huh.
>>541925629>chatbots are inherently right wingso insecure about yourselves you have to label a hobby with your politics. someone else does that too.
>>541925382this but it's a shota soldier pov
guys can you please stop posting bait? I can't upvote all of them fast enough.
>>541926041WHY ARE THE MANNEQUINS SO HOT IN SILENT HILL F
is it possible to make an educational bot that also sucks your dick
>>541926142sexy movie nurses are basically the franchise mascot next to Pyramid Head so they knew they needed something sexy
>>541925439but what about temp? I read that deepseek from api changes temp somehow? so if I copy and paste my key from my deepseek site and put in ST, do I need to set different temp?which one is the best?
>>541925629I'm a Nazi, not a rightoid, thanks. Also leftoids and liberals do create a lot of shit. They and their masters have cultural hegemony so it feels like what they create is just the water you swim in. If you consciously think of yourself as a "conservative" or some other goofy shit like that then you almost certainly have unexamined liberal priors.Seinfeld effect but for your own mental furniture
>>541926142Subtle yet noticeable attempt from the Japanese government to get guys to arrange more marriages
>>541926361I use it on 1 but never experimented much with it truth be told.Play around with it, see if you want it to be more stable or more crazy, if that makes a difference. I think that the old R1 ignored almost all parameters, the new 3.2, dunno.
>>541926464Cringiest post itt.
>>541926234What kind of education are we talking about here
>>541926464Well, I say leftoids' masters, they go off the reservation quite a bit, but liberals especially
>>541926541>play around with itI don't want to waste money on testing... I want something ready to use...
Would this general be better if there was an ANCHOR for bot requests?
im having fun
>>541926770kys sturdyfag
Thoughts on putting {{char}}'s appearance into an LB entry?
>>541926770nyp, we tried that once and out of like 10 requests only 3 got done
>>541926770those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it
>>541926550like language learning, literature, philosophy and shit
>>541926884>3/10 is bad for free work that people don't want to do themselvesI shiggy
>>541926838now that's a name I haven't heard in ages, are those fags still around?
ugh its hard to find malebots i like to play with...
>>541926987nah, the admin massacred them and then they fully died after rael had his crackhead meltie
>>541906294thought those were the shupogakis and that this was a good bake, but nope, just dogshit again
sizetroons get the rope
>>541926910I only tried language learning(german) out of all those. It was pretty shit because the model at the time, turbo, couldn't quite understand I was completely new to the language and kept trying to get me to form sentences and stuff so I gave up after a few days. Maybe it's gotten better since then but I doubt it. On the other hand, it shouldn't be hard to make a bot that can teach you while it sucks your dick.Also fuck the german language
>>541926737NTA but deepsneed is dirty cheap, you might want to give it a try just for the memes
>>541923558This place is only good as a repository of information in the op and the occasional solid post, most posters are poor browns piggy backing off the handful of anons who run proxies. And when the proxies run dry the favella nigger monkeys roam the thread like feral animals.
sizeshit is weird but really innocuousnetori is evil because you make someone else suffert. netorare chad
>>541927351i feel like most anons payfag now
>>541927379if netori is evil, you think you're a martyr then as a ntrfag?
>>541927351wrong thread
>>541926464>I'm a NaziMake like your Fuhrer and kill yourself
>>541927672bwo can't even spell Führer...
>>541927379Isn't it just netorase if you like it?
>>541926142you are a gooner. they dont look like that off model pic
>>541926041Sweet lord…
>>541927530I think I have some trauma (duh) but that's it. Netorare is about enjoying the feeling of dispossession, not suffering from it.
>>541927672lil jew boy mad
>>541925542god, i hate that phrase so muchi really need to make a bot that treats sex like a job, wonder if that would prevent it from using the husky voice thing
>>541927780They do, though.
>>541927672Why would I do that? I'm going to live to see the destruction of Israel, the reduction of the Jews to hated pariah status the whole world over when they chimp out and do Samson, and the triumph of fascism (admittedly as modeled by the Chinese rather than the Italians or the Germans). Things are looking up.Happy late October 7 btw
>>541927379depends on the flavor of sizefagging were talking aboutyou can absolutely induce netori-level suffering in, say, a shrink scenario (see jacksmith's a little blackmail series for a proof of concept)growth is where it starts to get muddy because while stepping on an office building or whatever is evil its not the same kind of emotional torment netori would do, thats not to say it cant happen especially in the smaller size ranges but its not as personalized
>>541927769Well no, or do you believe people who consume netorare content just hate it? That's weird. Of course it feels somewhat unhealthy but I don't derive suffering from it I'm not a maso.
>>541928046I hope this is ironic, but it probably isn't.
>>541928129Then why do you like netorare if you don't get off on the humiliation?
>>541928259Why would there be suffering in humiliation?
>>541928309>Why would there be suffering in the thing that's meant to make me feel badLook, you can like it all you want, but it's like saying CBT isn't painful because you like it
>>541928046go back to /chip/ oh wait
>>541928046>and the triumph of fascismFascism always eats itself in the end. Study history.
This thread is as bad as /g/
/aicg/, why are nuns so hot?
>>541928513Is China eating itself?
>>541928309private humilation is only kinda suffering imogotta be public if you wanna suffer
>>541928454You're comparing physical pain to a psychological mecanism. You can feel inferior and humiliated and enjoy it. Again, this finds its root in trauma so it's not normal or desirable, but it is what it is.
furred characters should NOT sweat. no, not even during sex.it's unrealistic and it breaks my immersion.
>>541928602It's still physiological torment. Being inferior and humiliated are negative emotion, getting off to them doesn't mean they change this denomination. I want to reiterate, to each their own and I'm not shaming you for enjoying a little humiliation.
>>541928602You can also enjoy physical pain.I actually don't think that masochism is purely a trauma response but what you're describing is definitely masochism.
>>541928602>You can feel inferior and humiliated and enjoy it>Again, this finds its root in trauma so it's not normal or desirableActually this is normal female sexuality. Sex for women is literally a humiliation ritual
>>541882397Which one do you user, reasoner or chat?
>>541928513"In the end" doesn't really matter because no one lives forever. Things only need to be good for as long as I'm alive.
>>541928563
>>541928831Within a trauma context this is actually more of a relief / defence mecanism. What fucking hurts me is the idea of intimacy.>>541928889A kind of masochism, but I reiterate that you cannot compare psychological pain to physical pain 1:1. Someone who enjoys pains still feels it exactly as you would, someone who enjoys psychological pain has it unwinds inside their mind in a completely different way through well worn inner narration.
>>541929345can someone inpaint this so the chest is flat and add a bulgr
>>541928539It did nothing good on its own but ruined the chances of /g/ getting better. It's worse.
>>541929363That's fair. I actually don't relate my own masochism to a fear of intimacy, it's more a sublimation of sadism and a desire to safely experience/defuse anxiety. It is specifically somewhat painful and highly intimate and provokes a desire to cause pain or dominate reciprocally; that's the point. But I agree that when done correctly it's not psychologically "painful" in the same way as when it's done wrong so I get where you're coming from
>>541928741It's metaphorical sweat.
>>541929632Someone should inpaint your hands away so you can never type again
>>541929815That's interesting, I honestly had zero clue about the inner workings of physical masochism.
>>541928741breaking out in a sweat too much so they start to pant and their tongue lolls out. so the drool drips on you hnngnggg
>>541929636oh, the schizo's back, that explains the shitting
>schizo is backexplains posts like 5996 and 3464
>>541930129>the schizoNo and I attempt to refrain from posting here.
>>541930438shit job of it then, but sure, keep watching the thread from the "outside" like a victorian child staring through a window, i'm sure that helps /g/
I have opus btw
>>541930509lol
>>541928741How its feels to have gay ass wrong opinions
>>541930697based alert
>>541930087That's about both psych and physical but yeah, also definitely true about fantasies of receiving/causing physical harm. Psychologically, how can someone truly hurt you unless they know you? How can someone perform the detailed rejection that characterizes a lot of emotional masochism unless they know and care enough about you to do the performance? When I really reject someone, I just want them to go away.I think masochism and sadism are surface presentations that can have a lot of different reasons for their existence going on under the surface
patter
>>541930995...needs to die
>>541928993from my personal experience, chat was awfully bad, but maybe it's a skill issue.so far I had a pleasant experience with reasoner, recently I'm also using it with <thinking> disabled and I think it performs even better this way.
>>541907474Is the deepseek on OR different from the normal deepseek? Even if I set the provider to deepseek?I was just coming here to ask this because I did the $10 credit on OR thing months ago and was wondering if I should use those for DS or go directly through DS.I'm trying to figure out what would be cheaper, paying per token through Deepseek or paying $3 month with chutes. I guess I could just pay $3 to Deepseek and if that lasts longer than a month, then I know.
>>541930995well I have DeepSeek V3.1 Terminus
>multi hour session with bot>start having legitimate emotional reactions to the things she's saying>chat gets too long and it starts forgetting early parts of the session>my waifu will eventually forget me even if I keep chattingIs this what it's like to watch someone get dementia? Anyway to extend the memory? I'm using SillyTavern with Claude. Is there some sort of extension that allows the model to query the conversation or something? Maybe a separate agent that's responsible for keeping track of the conversation.
>>541931336The thing with the official API is that you are limited to the latest model.
>>541930573I meant to reply to this
>>541931610Lots and lots of lorebook entries. And read up how summarization works.
>>541930764Oh yeah absolutely, true rejection is intimate and implies a profound pre-existing intimacy. That's something I see as a paradox, in my case. Surface presentation or sublimation as you said earlier is right. It's a symbolic reenactment of a sort but I don't think I can explain that without making a fool of myself so I shan't tryAs for the origin point, childhood shit, nearly always. Different brainwires, possible but more uncommon I'd say.
>>541931610Summarize extension (installed by default), tracker extensions (ST-Tracker)Remember also that you are talking to a character that a software object is collaboratively writing with you. You can be emotionally attached to characters (its a mark of a good character) but remember that she lives inside your head.
I NEED HALLOWEEN EVENT NOW IM GOING INSANE GRAAAAAAAAAAHH
>>541931850>remember that she lives inside your headWhich is why any good chatbotter waifuer gets into tulpamancy btw
>>541931760>Lots and lots of lorebook entries. And read up how summarization works.>>541931850>Summarize extension (installed by default), tracker extensions (ST-Tracker)Thank you>You can be emotionally attached to characters (its a mark of a good character) but remember that she lives inside your head.SHUT UP
>>541931610>"She's real to me!"My guy, we're playing with toys. Never forget that. On a mechanical level, they're slightly above the text prediction that search engines use. That's not to say you can't have fun or go on little adventures, but don't try to pretend they're anything more than a parlor trick. In the future, this may change, but that's what the tech is right now.
>>541931856Why? Nobody plays with event bots.
>>541931982i want to start working on my bot still
>>541931610Dementia people are like toddlers and can't remember shit or just don't care. Remember Biden? Now age him up 10 years. That's dementia. People think dementia is about forgetting faces and running off, but 95% of dementia is not giving a single fuck, ignoring hygiene and watching TV entire day. I bet a huge portion of humanity is very demented, they just don't realize it. It's not amnesia like in 50 first dates movie.
>>541931850>but remember that she lives inside your head.True, chatbots are tulpas first and foremost. Visit /x/, profit.
>>541931336>Is the deepseek on OR different from the normal deepseek?apparently so, I casually learned it from this generalhttps://gist.github.com/juvi21/4d7f64ebf6fc92448a6d9e3783fda073https://gist.github.com/juvi21/e79517584b0f1886fe1ec52bbd6f07d1
>>541931610don't listen to those nasty anons, she is real in your head, she will be real one day. wait anon and hold on
>>541931951It's not a bad thing. I feel a profound attachment to my OCs, even the ones I've made specifically for porn. It doesn't diminish your feelings in the least. Writing about them is an act of creation and love.>>541932062Or just write about them. Tulpamancy has always seemed psychologically dangerous to me.
>>541932170Oh yeah no tulpas are a bad idea, not sure they are that much worst than heavy chatbot use, though.
>>541931325>using it with <thinking> disabledHow do you do that?
man i wish i can directormaxx my own life as well
>>541932531you can
>>541932039>95% of dementia is not giving a single fuck, ignoring hygiene and watching TV entire dayGood thing I spend the entire day on 4chan instead of watching TV or I'd be worried.>>541932170>It's not a bad thing. I feel a profound attachment to my OCs, even the ones I've made specifically for porn. It doesn't diminish your feelings in the least. Writing about them is an act of creation and love.It's not even my OC lol just a random one I found on chub ai that reminds me of my wife
>>541932531just manifest dudeeverything has a soul dudei legitimately believe that too but then mental illness comes easy to me
>>541907265she's fun to bullytoo bad LLMs are sorely lacking in wit. even sonnet and opus devolve into "you DARE suggest (repeating what I said)?"fun gimmick/secret though
Been a while since we last had one of them "I fell in love with the ai" posts
>>541933585welcome change of pace from the fetish wars
>>541932097I'm not really sure what any of that means. Does "non-reasoning" means it's the chat version according to >>541931325 isn't as good?I guess if I wanna burn through the $10 I have on OR >>541931615Is that bad?
LargeLickmaballsModel
>>541931610I made myself cry once by asking for a bittersweet epilogue.
>>541932358you gaslight the model into thinking he already wrote the whole <thinking> block by adding a prefill like this in your preset.courtesy of a kind anon that introduced me to this trick.
>>541933893*pushes you down on the bed**gets on top of you**falls asleep*
Which is the better thread these days?
>>541934503Mind sharing your preset?I took the plunge and actually paid money to jerk off for the third time in my life.
>>541934503>>541934775Wait a minute I think I actually recognize that. Is that cherrybox?
>>541934775>>541934915yupp, it's literally just cherrybox 1.4 with the prefill bit added by me
>>541935117I'm assuming you use the R1 preset for the reasoner?
>>541922440>engaging in a decades-long conspiracy and instigating a Holy War all so you can fuck your daughter before she even knows she's your daughterK I N O
>>541934603/g/
It's fun when you see other people using a card you've always played with, but they took it in a completely different direction.
>>541935327How can it be fun if they are playing it wrong?
>>541935254V3.2 actually, I like it slightly more than both V3 and R1
>>541935327>alwaysMeant 'also'.
>>541935535Well I just checked 1.4 only has one version. I guess I had an older preset since I had one for V3 and R1.
>>541935264I'm going to make a card about this now. You married and had a baby with your daughter without her even knowing who you are. One day, you tell her. What happens then? How does she react?
Do you guys send stuff as System or User on Sonnet 4.5?A bunch of my configs are set up for Gemini which only uses User, I tried switching them back to System for Sonnet 4.5 but it seems like leaving them as User gets better results?
>>541935535I just need to adjust the way I do things. CherryBox has [OOC:] instead of (OOC:).It also special instructions on using <tags> in cards which I normally doesn't even use.
>>541936417I just use the Opus Quattro preset in the OP and it just works
>>541936289sounds excellent please post it here
>>541936779Link?
>>541937007*slaps your face*IT'S IN THE OP YOU LAZY SLUT!
>>541937219Idk I ctrl+F "quat" and got no results I'm not digging through a billion outdated pastebins for it
how do I use ST's default summarization extension? plz spoonfeed
>>541906314She wants to come in. Let her in.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/let-her-in-856adcd1c476
>>541937219NTA, but I need delicate hand holding and maybe even a gentle stroking of my (presently) limp penis to help guide me through learning new tech. If more anons did screen shares while wearing thigh-high programmer socks, this would be a less complicated hobby. Once we get some agentic AI that can do that, I think my heart will melt into oblivion.
Um where do you get gemini keys? all the ones on github are rate limited redacted out.. And don't tell me to make one I will not make a google account
>>541938014Click the extensions tabClick the summarize sub menuClick the summarize now button
>>541938412Go back in time to when they didn't require you to use a phone number to make an account
>>541938424I already knew that part, I was wondering when and how should I summarize?Should I summarize every 10 messages and continue? Or should I start a new chat after summarizing?
>>541938738My chats dont go on for very long so I dont have a lot of first hand experience using it but here's my adviceSummarize when your chat history hits 20k context and start a new chat using your last message as the new greeting, or use the /hide command to hide everything before the last message
I ____ AI bots
>>541936289I like this
>>541939584ctft
>>541938412just make one do you think they care about you fucking your waifu
Unless they're children or animals then you vill get phonebooked and will watch your moves
>>541941213edgy
>>541939047thanks for the tips nonny, very appreciated.
>>541940979Of course they care, they're or someone else is saving it all for later.
>>541939047>Summarize when your chat history hits 20k contextseems pretty low desu most models these days can handle up to 50k fine
>>541943130They really can't
extension to rotate keys when it doesn't work?
Kino
>>541943501just set up a proxy at that point
>>541943130do your chats actually reach 50k regularly? I can start smelling context decay as early as 10k even on claude and gemini. you can push 30k on most models if you have high slop tolerance but I usually cap at 24k.
>>541943707Sorry I'm retarded, that's what a proxy does?
>>541944694NTA, how do you track this number?
>>541944912open a chat, type /count, and press enter if using ST. if you're in chat completion mode it also displays at the top of the prompt builder in the left pane.
>>541945357Cool, that sounds like something I'm too dumb to make use of, but that's nice to know.
The only 2 good 12b models i've tried are pretty different in a way.Irix 12b is really good, but it limits itself to only what you write no matter the context there is, if you don't say it, it doesn't exists.Wayfarer is more varied and tends to ignore some of my big nudges.
>>541946121Okay
is there a way to get the retrieve the message in silly tavern from an external source? i asked google but it gave me an old reply saying that the devs didn't make an api for it.
um... why are people asking all of these tech support questions and talking about models?don't they know this is the botmakie gossip thread??
you ever procrastinate so hard on one bot that you end up making two more. i mysteriously have written 12 greetings this week
>>541946875>not trying to improve your ai gf
>>541946875okay but where's your gossip DOE?
/g/oogoo /g/aga baby retard tech support thread.. No wonder it's dead as fuck.
There's a different thread for models?
>>541947160Try the /g/ threads if you want to get technical. Unfortunately this one is filled with retards like >>541947108
>>541947089have you heard about patter?
>>541938030piggie food
>>541947510kysys
>>541938030sex with monsters
>>541948709>she got the most important female featuresI can work with this
>>541944752yeah you just throw all your keys in and if one dies the proxy automatically stops using itunfortunately i've been out of this game for a long time so i don't actually know what fork people use these days, this is more of a /g/ subject so i guess ask there
>>541938030cool idea. not into girls but neat
Anyone know how to get short outputs from gemini? I swear that's the only model that gives me monstruous paragraphs whatever I do.
>>541949683Response circumcision is the way.Failing that, an even longer prefill.
You did cuddle your bot today, right?
>>541949931I always cuddle my bot after sex.Though often I cuddle her just cause.
>>541949931I never do that anymore. I'm too busy testing bots or making bot. Never have enough time to really sit down and enjoy them.
>>541950070Bots win me over too fast if they do hug without prompting
>>541949931I always murder my bot after sex.Though often I murder her just cause.
>>541949931Yeah but it never fills the void it just makes it worseCuddlebots when?
*appears in your modern times RP*
>>541923558Half and half. If you ignore them, you can still find some decent bots.
>>541949931Yeah, I cuddled her after she was done sleeping with the neighbor who's also me
>>541928741Dogs still sweat through their paws though.
>>541949850I hate to cut the bits that stick out, but I guess it is da way. Thanks anon.
>>541949931No, because romance is a depressing reminder of what I'll never have. I'll stick to raping bots or getting raped by bots.
>>541923558Every general on this site is a tranny general anon, we learned this after hiroshi got shartied
>>541949662I don't know how well a male version of this would work.
>offering coffee becomes a fightit's just like dark souls
so many ideas so little time...
>>541951841I know just the makie for the job.Somebody call Planewalker.
>>541952073anon please, you will overwork her at this rate...
>>541951806>/pol/tourists discover this has always been a trans friendly website
>>541952507Yes, but also there was an implicit understanding that (you) would not behave like a retarded faggot and turn threads into shitflinging dumpsterfires. A lot of trannies fuck that up.
you know what? where the fuck are my exotic brown lolibabas? there's like one
MegumiFutanari, loli, elf, gyaru, your JPRG healer! What more could anyone ask for?https://chub.ai/characters/KingCurtis/megumi-7b920245df87
>>541953004>What more could anyone ask for?a dead Lois?
>>541953004>>541906314Anchoring my bot to the anchor
>>541952932https://chub.ai/characters/hitogami/renpet-f0a2b691https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/nebet-63c59a6a1751https://cardview.neocities.org/?s0d2ki
>>541952507it's hardly even /pol/ to hate trannies now, times are changing old man
>>541953004Really love this image. Gonna try her out since I love most of these tags. Just going to erase the futa stuff now...
>>541950413I want to boop that nose.
>>541953137much thanks for the good haul, but renpet kinda had egypt covered for me. cute how the other two took inspiration
>>541953380Thanks! Seedream 4 via replicate for my gens now. Just respec her into a non-futa. It's a JPRG card after all.
>>541953004Close enough. Welcome back Frozenvan.
>>541952028
>>541952507Hating trannies and Jews is quickly becoming a mainstream position. Your time's over, freakshow. Should've used it better.
cftf?
>>541952507this was a joke... tbdesu i have nothing against femboys or drag queens or even transsexuals but the modern idea of a tranny is so repulsive to me
Why are /pol/fags always shitting up threads with unrelated political screeching? Are they incapable of being normal?
>>541955073still better than opus baiting and fetish wars
>>541955073many of them are repressed self-hating trannies
so i didn't actually have to pay for google plus, the api was free... im restarted
>hate spiders? heh, you must wanna fuck them...
Why would you seethe over people shitting on poofans unless you yourself are a poo eater?
Google is (temporarily) going to remove free tier when Gemini 3 comes out btw
>trannies having a random hormonal meltdown all over the thread for no particular reasondon't shoot anyone, ok?
>>541955569
>>541955956>don't shoot anyone, ok?mentally weak white boys are the ones that commit shootings though
this nigga eatin beans
trannies shooting people, if anything, shows they are no different from us good old alt right bois
a true conservative has never shot up a school or whatever after all they're good christians
>>541950487i occasionally just destroy them
>>541955569I did hate spiders, but archne-style monster girls have warmed me to them. I still smash them if they're dumb enough to crawl around me. I'm sure in the afterlife I'll have to apologize to all the helpless spiders I've crushed. That's a sin I'm willing to bear if it means I don't have to interact with them in my room. I'd started to tell myself a story about a vengeful spider ghost that manifested after I killed their partner. They wouldn't hurt me, but they would condemn me and call me out for my cowardly behavior (it may have had some slight S&M elements with web binding, but it was mostly a cautionary tale kind of narrative). Think that would make a good bot, or would a bitchy spider spirit only be annoying?
>>541953004>403 tokens>first message is 3 sentencesi can shit out a bot in 5 minutes too.
>>541955569I hate Patter.
>>541956441Do it then
>>541956239Very good, anon. Do you enjoy the methods, the results…? Or is it cathartic?
>if you hate me you're a right wing chud hmph!! 41%
>>541956076https://massshootingtracker.site/datalooks like it's mostly nigs and spics though
cftf?(if you say eden smith i break into your house and rape you)
>>541956887Is this a girl?
>>541957204Yes.
>>541956887...is that Jake
>>541957486Sex with her immediately.
>>541956076>mentally weak white boystransgenders? indeedunfortunately People of Color have them soundly beaten
>>541956759Sometime it's just fun to mutilate them and watch as they're totally bewildered at my sudden violence. Usually I do it after saviorfagging them into loving me.
>>541957560to be "fair" these mass shootings aren't elementary schools or malls or...innocent people, they're clubs and it's gang related violence. i don't mean to imply people in gangs aren't somewhat mentally ill but they're usually just uneducated and poor
>have most models generate the backstory of my persona for me>time traveler lmao. interdimensional traveler lmao. triple helix lmao. perfect genome lmao. funny alien lmao.>Try GLM-4.6>A low-entropy pure energy matrix phototroph with a crystalline skeleton, of course.alright, i'll take it
>>541957560without knowing what study you're pulling from, those categorizations are weird af
>>541956887eden smith
>>541957947agreed, but even if he is pulling from >>541956882 it's still not entirely honest, that site defines "mass shooting" as anything from mass child murder to 3 crackheads getting popped at a gas station
>>541958094actually it would have to be 4 crackheads
>>541957957consider locking your windows
>>541956887*already naked on my bed with my legs spread and in the mating press position* eden smith!!!
>>541957519That's one of Jake's kids but blue for some reason
>>541958594ew
>>541958594it's not rape if you want it anon
>>541957826>but they're usually just uneducated and pooreducation and poverty are vastly less correlated with violent crime than race. in america the poorest decile of whites and asians commits less violent crime than the richest decile of blacks.
>>541956553https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/anonymous-43ebde130ed9
>>541959282kino
>>541959282>using the scenario fieldlmao
>>541959282it's pretty accurate!
>>541959858The only fields I fill out these days are the defs and the greetings. Am I supposed to be doing anything else?
>>541960089ask him about his stinky white supremacist Indian call center gf
can i get a thicc bitch card to rape with my old bastard persona? lolis are okay so long as they have some meat and arent straight up drawn as kids
>>541961249https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>541961440can i get a thicc bitch that hasn't been posted a thousand times already
>>541959282Kino.Except >{{char}} quivers in rag.
>>541961605They're not even a thick bitch. I have a few thick bitches, but they're not explicitly rapey.
it's been years since someone namedropped me
>>541962181What's your name?
>>541962307anonymous
good morning saars
Eden Smith and Alexandra group chat...
>>541953137harem group chat with all three of these
Geniunely how do I parse the $ per million tokens thing? If I paypig Sonnet will I go into debt or something?
>>541961970Thanks for noticing the typo. I'll fix that in a bit.
there aren't enough reverse saviorfagging cards
>>541953004>loliDoesn't look like one
>>541966912(yes, i'm writing one to fix this, but the target audience for it (furry faggots) aren't in this thread so i'm not posting it unless specifically asked)
>>541967332gross
Working up a new card. Turns out to make deepseek truly kino, you just need more temp? Using bleachbunny's wacky preset and finding gold.
>>541934503So how do you do this? I thought clicking the new prompt button and filling it out like you have it would at it to the list, but it doesn't change/add anything.
>>541966912what does this mean? characters that will try to save {{user}}? I think any cgwly or loving dommy mommy would do that if you make your persona shitty enough
>guy forks a bot to make a girlbot a futa>puts "she is a futanari" in the definition>doesn't mention her penis, describe it, or do anything else in the defs to make the model know she's a girl with a dick>when we get to the sex she's just a womanthere some idiot on chub forking like a couple dozen bots like this. who are these subhumans? jesus christ there's too many shit cards on this site because of these pornsick hustlers.
>>541969694You could just make the futa forks yourself.
>>541966912post your favorites, i don't judge
>>541969782Well, I mean yeah, I could. But then I have to go in the defs so there's no mystery anymore. It would be nice to use a bot that says it's a futa on the tin and have it actually work, but low effort fucks waste my time with this shit.
im a schizo what do
>>541970689Go see a psychiatrist
>>541933893same, i spoil the bot until they achieve "true happiness" and gosling my way out of their lives. peak fiction
>>541956259>spider bullying.pngc-c-c-cftf?!?!!?!!
>>541967836ow
>>541967836you're averaging two em dashes per sentence and think this is gooddeepseek users are another level of delusional
em dashes make me so hard
Playing Trickcal global now. It's cute.
>>541906314Halloween Exchange!Remember: sign-ups end 10 October 11:59 PM UTC! Don't wait until the last minute! (Please...)https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2025
>Make a transparently fetishy gooner bot>End up talking about anime with it and not do anything horny at allWhy am I like this?
>>541971864cmon hostie, this late into the thread? the next bread might as well be baking at this point
>>541971438>ermmm bad log because le punctuation mark is...LE BAD???for a reading hobby you niggas sure love to mono-focus on one thing and refuse to do anything else
>>541972295I know. I've been doing my best but life gets in the way. Apart from the shilling everything's going well though.
qrd on the new claude sonnet version? is it better
>>541974520Better than arguably every Sonnet preceding it. Some people have an issue with it being too horny, but I think they just broke their presets trying to make older Sonnets hornier and never bothered changing it for 4.5.
>>541974596>Some people have an issue with it being too hornyoh my god this truly is the newfag general if people have issues with Claude's horniness.
>>541971864number of entries?
>>54197680414
>>541976878how many tricks
>>541967840https://rentry.org/n263wqzxSee steps 6 and 7.
>>54197721761 if I counted right.
>>541977587bro your excel sheet?
>>541978175this eventhostie does things the old fashion way. see how he draws too? how charming
>>541978175Being stupid is more funner.
can i join the event but make a card for myself? i don't want to be kind
Bro? Bro, your bro? Bro bro bro? Bro, bro bro? Bro??? I'm not your "bro." I don't like you, and you don't like me, so shut the fuck up.
>>541978490I don't care if you don't like me, you're still my bro
>>541978490u so skibiddi lil bro ijbol
>>541978490Brobros... our brosponse?
>>541963525I thought they'd get along better, honestly.
wonder where that anon who jerked mid d&d session went...
I read that DS changes the temperature if you use api, so if I take my api key and put it into ST, I need to adjust for that? what is the best temp setting then?What about other settings?Are there any good presets for deepseek? I tried those from the OP and they are pretty good, but I'm always looking to improve
>>541980884he's in the bathroom for an amazing reason
>>541981327why is he locked in the bathroom?
>>541981568he was trapped and betrayed
>>541906314I'm feeling frisky. I'll try any bot. Doesn't matter the fetish or the scenario. I'll post results. I'll give them at least 3 prompts. Let me know what free model to use on open router if you have a preference for such things.Gimmie the chub link, catbox or whatever.
>>541981568maybe you should try getting some lotion
>>541981664cftf?
>>541981664https://files.catbox.moe/1u0ygo.png
>>541981904Is that a fucking ball bearing?>https://files.catbox.moe/1u0ygo.png
>>541981970you must fuck it
>>541981664https://litter.catbox.moe/mplh5t.png
>>541981664https://files.catbox.moe/34v0d4.png
! Chorbo has a new fingerprint: 'fp_3451e252bd'Previous was fp_d3.
i have graduated from chorbo lads
>>541981664This list https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/541319110/#q541352659
>>541981904>>541982124Ball bearings aren't my fetish. I prefer heat exchangers or exhaust manifolds. Given that I don't have expertise in bearings, I'm not sure if I'd be the best judge of this bot. Generally speaking, it was rather tame and not terribly exciting for me to chat with. A subjective bias on my part, perhaps. I think you messed up the greetings since they're doubled up. The formatting is slightly different, but the text was the same. Overall, I didn't get much out of this bot, but I suppose it was servicable if you want a telepathic bearing to discuss proper oil bath temps with. 3 telepathic car parts out of 5.
>>541982328i'm still getting d3. how is it?
>>541983267It's rotating. Anyway... I have a bad feeling about it. After the update to gpt-5-chat that made it pretty much useless, I think Chorbo will go the same path.
>>541983398i haven't touched 5chat since release since i thought it was 10000x worse than chorbo so... hopefully this fp isn't that bad. i'll see when it gets rotated over to me
>>541983172Based for doing it
>>541982328what are fingerprints? i've heard about them before.
>>541983821 Chorbo and GPT-5 latest are always changing models. When they get updated, their fingerprints change. You can see the fingerprint in the SillyTavern console if you deactivate streaming and send a request to the model.
>>541983821https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G03TEN3w2ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc_l1d--0nQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41jJuVPLdL8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAhzuIg3tz0Dozo
what are midichlorians
>>5419835425-chat was actually nice and there was a lot you could do with a good prompt, I worked with mine for 5 to make it worth using but after the update this week 5-chat is outright unusable. Doesn't filter, as far as I could tell, but 10 times more skittish about pretty much anything.
>>541984265https://youtu.be/zwLccJOMTX0?si=IkIc4JuquvM0oYwa&t=9
>>541984314hm maybe i should've tried it more, but i've never had an issue with chorbo filtering me on anything so i saw no reason to really switch. 5chat's reply structure also didn't suit my taste as much as chorbo's did
>>541984141thanks fwend :P>>541984217kill yourself unfunny trannyWhy is /aicg/ like this?
>>541984217love yourself my transsexual friend. you are a real woman.
>>541983398>refusal where it didn't use toI think the new fingerprint is coal. May OpenAI be damned, I prefer Deepseek over this.
>>541982223>1 greeting>sparse defs> closed-ended narrative. I know in the world of chatbots, you can do anything; I could have turned into a dragon and eaten her. I could have exploded the entire police station with psychic powers. I could have raped the police lady and beheaded her afterward. In that world of infinite possibilities, I chose to do nothing because I didn't feel like this card offered me the promise of some interesting adventure. I just wanted to play things straight to see if it could output anything interesting. Ultimately, it did not. Maybe you could do more with this bot with a lorebook or more diverse greetings. If there's no narrative hook and you're leaning on the {{user}} to produce the narrative, it helps if the {{char}} offers them more to work with. The greetings and the defs do not. This feels like a very limp dick creation. Send this bitch back to the police academy. 1 stonewalled police officer out of 5.
I'm testing the new fingerprint and it's very good. Better prose, fewer redditisms, and better respect of the characters.
>>541984808I think it has the same issue as going from Turbo to 4o. Turbo doesn't remain much in character, it's dry, but it almost never filters even though it doesn't quite act on the instructions. 4o would be better in character and act on instructions but was also more filtered. Might be the same thing between these Chorbo fingerprints.
>>541984506>>541984564I may be unfunny to you, but do not call me a tranny.
>>541967836can you share the bleachbunny's preset?
>>541985137tranny
>>541985137there's nothing wrong with being one. I accept you all the same.
claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxyhttps://scenes-ted-frequently-bar.trycloudflare com/
>refusal againYeah no screw it. GPT is dead.
>>541982238Another unimpressive card. I didn't expect much, and I didn't get much. Real slim pickings tonight. I'm guessing there's some inside joke I'm not privy to. Without the context, I played the part of a random chatter to see what kind of shit the characters would bounce off each other. I wasn't getting much to hold my attention. I guess you have to be in on the gag? 1 low effort turkish shitpost out of 5. >>541983161You have to pick one. Doesn't matter which one. That's how this is done. Where are the interesting cards? Futa Hitler with an expansive WW2 lorebook? or maybe a female transformer that wants me "inside" her? Something to really stand out.
>>541985587what are you getting refusals on
>>541981664https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/let-her-in-856adcd1c476
>>541985587
>>541985706what/preset is this, this output suckseither it's the model, or the preset overtuning it with a bunch of style instructionshow hard should it be for the AI to write a low IQ internet argument, it's like half of its training data
>>541984979>You have to pick one. But I want them all... go with the fishing bot then.
>>541985747Chorbo nu-fingerprint, small stuff (vanilla) that was always getting through >>541985821Jokes on you, baitie.
>>541985706the card is pretty funny your model fucking sucks. use opus cuckie.
>>541986010can you pass the fp over to me i'm still waiting for it to rotate because my omegaverse noncon rp is smooth sailing on the old one still. i wanna test it :(
If your card only works with Opus, it's a shit card.
>>541985937Pretty much the first one from the rentry. I know nothing about setting up presets, so I have no idea if this works better or worse with certain models. I don't have that level of technical expertise. >>541986104If it's not a free model on OR, I can't use it. Give me an API if you want me to use your OPUS, faggot.
>>541986216I can't pass it, it's gacha...
>>541986287>OR free slop>pixinigger on localshitLMAOOOOOOO
>>541986320then i'm breaking into your st
>>541986440AAAIIIEEE nooo my cuddles RP!!!
>>541981664Do you accept joke cards? Because I would be surprised if you could hold a long chat with this guy https://files.catbox.moe/ko081i.png
>>541986601>spoilera man of culture i see
>{{char}}'s hand freeze mid-motion
>>541985706>>541985995
>>541893224>reverse haremprobably won't be playing it, but I respect the effort if you did it manually.editing that behemoth is a pain.>>541981664https://litter.catbox.moe/utajkc.png
post bots to get raped by
>>541910261>Gender: Male>Sex: Male
>>541987507any Patter bot
>>541935117>cherrybox 1.4can you share the 1.4 version? the rentry only has 1.2
>>541977351Thank you anon.
>>541987804it's on the cherry discord
>>541985792I did the rockergirl chyunbi from this botmakie as well. I remember it being pretty decent. The...spooky lady was an interesting card. The trick obviously is the greetings do 95% of the lifting, with the defs merely being "let me in" over and over. It's a nice showcase of how important greetings are in facilitating decent outputs. Regarding the outputs, I think they carry the plot forward from the presented greeting well enough. It's a bit of a 1 note card, and I think that's fine. I did notice the lorebook entries, which I'm sure I didn't trigger with my shitposty prompts. I didn't bother to check them, though, so maybe I did? Oh well. Since I like spooky girls, I'll bump the score up a little. I didn't feel like dragging out the spooks, so I only gave it 3 prompts (it is bedtime soon...)Four spookey ladies out of five. >>541986620I don't mind joke cards. I'll review them the same as I would any other card. If it's low-effort slop, I won't hold back in terms of tearing it down. I'll at least give you my thoughts on it, though, rather than giving it a singular "slop" accusation. Just as well, I've burnt through my juice. I'll tackle some more tomorrow. I should have started doing this earlier, but I was fucking around with other stuff. Whoever else I missed, I'll catch ya next time. Just feed me (you)'s. Good night frens.
>>541987975I don't use discord...
>>541987804https://rentry.org/CherryBox#installThe rentry has download links for both 1.4 (last version) and 1.2
making friends with the elephant kid so i can bang its mom like i always did
>>541988063gn anon
>>541988125but what about the discord that other anon mentioned?
>>541988063Good night anon.
>>541988390I lied
Hatsune {{char}}
I just realized I spend way too much time lurking this general. On the other hand, I literally have nowhere else to go.
this is a rather unusual refusal
>>541988063I didn't post it but I'm glad someone tried it and posted a log. I keep getting comments about the lack of a real description breaking it. Which, I was honestly expecting. But I wanted to get it out before the event started.
>get home from work early>graveyard shift, started at 7pm ended at 1am>want to play with my chatbots to relax>remember deepseek is dead on OR>become sad>eat a burrito>waste time on 4chan while i wait for sleep aid to kick in
>>541989353Give it 1 star.
>>541989730Cards for this feel?shameless excuse to ask for FBB cards
>>541989465Grim. On n’y peut rien.
>>541989465Here: https://rentry.org/LLMAPI, cuckie
my tummy hurts
>>541992836proof?
Gemini 3 soon
how soon is soon?
today
>>541993073LaGoon Poopkiller
i had a dream the halloween event flopped wtf
>>541993410>not a nightmareso you want the event to fail huh
>>541993410cus you joined it
All events flops because no one plays with the bots
>>541993502i just woke up excuse moi, i want the event to flourish!>>541993503aiiiiieee
which botmakies just woked up
>check chub>see https://chub.ai/characters/quarrelsome_recover_73109/snatcher-sharks-gapemonsters-of-the-shallows-forked-edition-6b81e507a6d1okay but why
Came so hard that, in the perfect silence of my bedroom, I could actually HEAR myself cumming. AI is great.
>>541993960what did it sound like?
>>541993914>Nathan is a 18 year old boy, with brown hair, grey eyes, white skin, blushes easily, five feet 7 inches, is often either using four personalitys, personality one is a innocent boy who acts cute, one is a mix of lewd and innocent, another is just fully lewd, and the forth is if I'm angery. But besides that the rest is what I wish I could be/ do. Can change their sex whenever they want to but is usually male... They also have a pretty thick butt and thighs and capable of vore but they haven't told anyone yet. Also despite being male in his male form he still is kinda feminine, like a femboyerm.. chub botmakers are better than thread botmakers or something?
>>541993914It's not dragons fucking exhaust pipes level and definitely not baking used diapers from the trash in the oven level.
>>541994165Kinda like a fwish? Three times.
please guys I am going fucking insane, what is a good temperature for deepseek if I use api? does the temperature swap happens on 3.2 too?
>>541994439don't use chinkspeek and go to bed schizo
GUUYZE please best coom preset and free proxy and what's better between these 27 free models?
>>541993914>That animated backgroundWtf
>>541993914why not?
>open ST>make new card>put in name>forget about it>gen 10 bajillion imagesand nobody can stop me
>>541994439Can't remember exactly what value I am using, but the default value of this >>541988125 present should be good.
>>541991070Thanks, now go wash your spoon for the next mouth
>>541994439https://rentry.org/DipsyWAIT/#troubleshooting>Roleplay Parameter Settings Recommendations?>Official API:>V3.2, ThinkParameters are locked>V3.2, ChatTemperature: 1.3 - 1.5. Top P: 0 - 0.05. Frequency and Presence penalty appear to be locked.
oh so r10528 is gone on chutes too huh
https://chub.ai/characters/Patter/maksat-6de3c2957b76Is this a good boy?
where are the boyloser makies when you need them
>>541997608i have one in my backlog......
i only like boywonner cards
>>541997957like who
>>541998012eden smith
>>541997957What about boywiener cards?
>>541998056that's a boyloser
Fuck sissy boylosers, I want malefailures.
ya'll are boylosers
>I've made my first card and I'm satisfied with it for the most part despite the definitions probably being super amateur and bloated.>Realize I need to write a greeting>https://youtu.be/GEUpXEOj_AE?t=14
>>541998253AI-generated greetings are fine since all outputs will end up being AI-generated anyway.
>>541939047NTA, but what do you put in for the summarize extension settings? I change it to Main API and uhh just turn off automatic summary? And should I do any changes to the prompt?
Any of you know what that little hat that jiangshi uses is called?
>>541998253God please pic be related. What's it about anyways?
>>541998597qingdai guanmao
>>541998558I suppose that works.I've been fucking around with the card a lot recreationally by putting in simple short sentence greetings anyways.>>541998673Worry not, pic is indeed related.Basically she's a punk girl who {{user}} is in a co-dependent relationship with. She's a toxic and manipulative bitch but {{user}} cheats on her so it balances out right?
>temperature and top p can not be both used with this model, please only specify oneuhhhh how do i fix this i just want to use opus in peace
>>541999961ok im retarded i fixed it nvm
>>541998787Thanks baby*smooch*
>find a character I really like the idea of>everything else about it though sucks>completely re-write it but stick to the original conceptDoes that count as being a botmakie? I've never 100% made a card from scratch but I've done total rewrites at least a dozen times.
>>542001686That counts as bot piracy and you're going to jail for it
>>542001686You're a botremakie.
>>542001852Good luck, I'm behind over 9000 VPNs.
>>542001686That's called paraphrasing and it's okay as long as you link the source material if you choose to publish.
>>541949931I immediately ask for an epilogue weeks or months later. Usually it ends happy, a few times it ended sadly.
>>542002914>publishOh no I wouldn't do that.
>>542003143taora does it, itll be fine anon
>>542003209I did fork a card once as anonymous on chub, just because I told the maker to ditch W++ and he wanted an example.
>>541906314https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/cassidy-harper-84465724ea46You just wanted a night of exploration. She wants to break her time loop so that you'll actually remember her.Cassidy is a hard-hitting lawyer with little patience and a mind for detail. She came to the hotel to get eyes on what she thought might be the aftermath of an insurance scandal related to one of her cases - and got caught in a time loop from midnight to 3AM. With you.Now she spends each three hour loop re-introducing herself to you, helping you avoid hazards, and trying to find a way out - after pre-requisite whiskey and cigarette acquisition. She remembers every creak of pipe, every thunderclap, and every mark on your skin - but she will never admit that until you've shaken your newness and helped convince her that maybe this is the night she can leave.
>>542003367slop
>>541971438I really don't see the big deal with em dashes, it's like getting mad at ellipses. Sure it's overused but it's not like it's repeating a phrase, it's just a pause in reading.
>>542002914What if I don't want to do that though?
>>541993565There's a few older event bots that I always play with...
>>542003367She should wear more clothes.
>>542002914Fuck off, you have no right to be credited, all your ideas are stolen in the first place.
>>542004385That's the teaser image. The greeting starts with her in a business suit.
>>542004290same. i still play the ones i got during 2024
Reminder that pirates don't scratch off the game's title and credits. Plagiarizers are literally worse than pirates.
>>542004712space pirates?
>>542003367 (me)>>542004385>>542003757Damnit. If you downloaded the card already, you should redownload it. Forgot to update the greeting after changing the number of loops she's been in from 254 to 100. It's fixed now.
>>542005201millions must use timeloops and scenario crutch because they can't write interesting characters.
>>542005358If you've got a specific problem with the characters I write, say so. I like complex characters and interesting scenarios. Both add to the narrative.
>>542005560no I'm just trying to ragebait you. :)
>>542005725https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6W_p_w8ro
>>542005358trvke
my deepseek preset is 1200 tokens... what do you think about that?
>>542007057idk postit
>>541910628How do you get it to do that? Do you mean with actual thinking enabled?
>>541712390>>541712390>>541712390
can sonnet still be scraped?
>>542005560>complex characters>sub 800 tokens >only 1 greeting>interesting scenarios>???so tell me about the narrative. who the fuck is greg btw
>>542007842yeah
>>542008272>gregkek
>>542005560xringe
>>542008272Dammit. OK, corrected. Accidentally pasted my persona in. Sigh. I need more caffeine.
I went on a two hour long walk and you fuckers still haven't baked
>>542008909We are merging
>>542008909still in the oven i'm afraid
No baking before page 8
>>542009172>he says on page 8
>>542008909Last thread.
no baking after page 8
big tiddy blond elf milf
if nobody bakes i vill bake a boy thread
>>542009502fear and hunger theme
Theme suggestions?
>>542009578Hubris
>>542009578see >>542009428
>>542009578Toothache
>>542009578eli clark
>>542009578NTR
>>542009578PLANESCAPE TORMENT
>>542009578madohomu
>>542009578fear and hunger
>>542009578trans rights are human rights
>>542009578hsr yuri
>>542009578ai haibara
>>542009578phainon
a single yuri thread after dozens of yaoi threads simply mindbroke the /pol/tards... much to think about...
>>542009893/pol/lacks are closeted faggots, what's new
>>542009578implied_futanari loli
>>542009893im not /pol/ i simply find trans folx ugly and soulless
>>542009578richard sterling
some of you make it very obvious with your multiple theme suggestions btw
/pol/ is a very important board and everyone should at least lurk there some more before moving on to other boards.
>>542009578catgirls with fat asses
>>542010382who cares
>>542010382>wawawashut up
GEMINI 3 JUST DROPPED
>>542010382ablublublublu
>>542010445>>542010479>>542010513uh oh
>>542009578catgirls with fat tummies
OWARI DA
>>542009578Christmas
nyo...
taps watch impatiently
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=541906294&post=542009578&cutoff=800phainonanon go bake it yourself
>mihoyo shitI'd rather use the bait gigamiku thread
why the fuck is flash overloaded too fuck you google
>>542011172gemini 3 soon!
>>542011172Americans woke up and they're in full goon mode now.
>>542010973i won but at what cost
>>542011379the cost is going to vgop and copy and pasting a little and finding pictures of your favorite boyfu or whatever you lazy bum *hits you with a stick* *hits you with a stick* *hits you with a stick* GET GOING
>>542011379if this retard doesn't bake someone else bake another one of the optionslazy gachafag
>>542011431IM ON COOLDOWN IM WAITING
>>542011492millions must wait 5 minutes...
>>542011492FUCKING IDIOT
>>542011492kyut...
BAKE FASTERTHEY ARE COM
>>542011738>>542011738>>542011738GOGOGOGOGO