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Do we like Jinx?

Teach me how to play 2XKO...

I liked Jinx before she just became Ekko's piece

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>>541945838
Game's tutorials are bretty gud, figure out your main's game plan, try to learn neutral and them learn some combos
Take it slow, it ain't a race

>>541945838
there's an unbelievable amount of things to learn in this game, even coming from other fighting games, so just go at your own pace
a great place to start is learning a basic combo, and learning how to anti-air by pressing down+heavy when they jump at you.

>>541945970
This, but Ahri

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i'm having a lot of fun playing warwick... as a solo champ experience. but his assists feel kind of bad to me, and they also don't extend darius' combos they way i like an assist to do. like there's no synergy here, i'm just playing two separate champs (though they double down together pretty damn well since ww can confirm maximum doggy off of headless pretty easily)
may go back to learning illaoi to play with darius, hrm... could give teemo another try too but he has a similar situation it feels like

>>541946750
You must drop one

>bro switches to Yasuo after getting smoked
>gets read on his first roll out of the corner and thrown back in
>he instantly ALT+F4s
heh, nothen' personnel kid

So, is the game any good?

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>>541947734
Yeah

>aris had fun doing yassuo combo trials in 2xko and liked doing the combos
>40 years old
So what's your excuse

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>>541947734
It's cool

>>541947796
I dont like Yasuo

>>541938406
this general has to house the greatest minds this site has ever seen

>>541947796
41.

>>541946750
play double down, do s2s2 into headless into ww's divekick super

How's Warwick with the big bodies? I play Illaoi/Blitz, and I'm considering learning Braum to pair with Warwick.

>>541947783
what a mash
Also I know why Chris G loves the game now because his champion can do retarded shit like this

>>541948757
He's a big body?

How do I defense, sisters? I thought I'd have a bit of an advantage coming from Uni since that game also has large cancel windows, but my defense still feels bad.

>>541949139

Not enough. But I like Saberwulf.

>>541949402
HEH. You can't block in this game. Being on the defensive = lose

I wish ground and wall bounces were separated from that limit break resource. Blitz has no combos outside of optimal starters.

should i drop strive for this? I still haven't reached vanquisher there yet. I don't think i'll be able to handle two games

>le beginner friendly game
>you have to manually tech out of air combos and things will uncombo
why is this still a thing

So when is this coming to console? It will 100% die without console players.

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AHHHHHHHH FUCK LOBBIES JUST PUT IN MATCHMAKING

>>541951120
absolutely not

Disappointed that the new character select theme is a downgrade from beta. Lobby music stayed mostly the same at least, very chill.

>2x assist runs into input conflict so instead they just make your tag assist be forward tag
the controls of this game are so garbage lol

why da skins so spensive sissies?

>>541951817
THEY CHANGED IT? WHERE IS THE OLD CHARACTER SELECT MUSIC USED NOW?

>>541951952
The worst is the input for teching for sure. Absolute dogshit.

>>541952103
Nowhere. To be clear, it's kinda of the same song, just arranged differently with some new instruments also. I don't know the exact music terms. Listen for yourself.

New:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Xf_jCMhPiQs

Old (couldn't find on YT):
https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/2xko-alpha-lab-soundtrack-windows-gamerip-2024

>>541952051
me femra wife says its because rito needs it

So if you make something block something in the air they get more of an advantage than if they were on the ground? What the FUCK are these retards doing? Someone holding up back shouldn't get rewarded by turning my plus frame move into a minus move. This is the most retarded shit I have ever seen in a fighting game.

>brooo what if we removed motion inputs
>and put in place a system that's even worse
>and made our entire control scheme pure aids to play
>the casuals will love us for it

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WQHAT CAN I DO AGAINST AHRI THIS BITCH SPENDS ALL DAY IN THE AIR AAAAAAAAAGH

>>541954860
Get a life lead and then run away for the timer. Make them come to you. It will make them mad and you can mix them easier.

this game will succeed in spite of everything it does wrong

that's just how life works

>>541956021
The writing on the wall says otherwise

>>541954258
Unironic intellect gap
Nobody is having problems inputting combos except for you I run into newfags who dont know how to burst that can do 80% darius combos

This general feels dead. Even rivals of Aether was more lively when it first dropped. I hate fighting games and their sometimes insta-deadness

>>541949402
Pushblock the instant you can if they have an assist off CD
Otherwise don’t be blocking
Most solo mixups are reactable but once an assist is out then that shit aint

This thread feels dead in the water already. Even fucking Rivals of Aether was more lively when it first dropped. I hate fighting games and their high insta-dead probability

>>541947734
Teemo is the best shit any fighting game has ever done
Im sitting on the edge of my bed and kicking my feet with every mushroom I out down

This thread feels alive. I love fighting games and how lively they are and how we can come together. Even City of the Wolves wasnt this lively when it first dropped. I love you guys. Always.

>>541945970
>>541946176
Sucks that none of the brown chicks match Ekko's popularity so they just match him up with random pale women. Even though the brown ones in canon want to fuck him like Rell Taliyah Zeri they continue to add random pale women Jinx Seraphine Sona and now Ahri. They're going to make him fuck half the cast at this rate.

I'm going to play Darius Vi but I have exactly zero intention of ever learning or doing any ''electric''

>>541957514
You’re good bro, you dont need to
she has so many combo routes theres plenty that do almost as much damage anyways

>>541956639
Ten cents have been deposited in your Riot account

Are inputs hard in this game. I suck at 2D but enjoy fighters...which I generally suck at

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>entire game is built around duos with multiple assist and defensive options for your partner to use and keep track of for you
You do have friends to play this with right? You all have done the mission that requires 5 matches with a duo, haven't you?

lil bro really said defensive options

>>541957061
While I find the game fun enough I'm treating it as filler until Tokon. If I didn't hate the SF6 season 3 picks I'd probably be playing that. There's a lot of shit going against it.
>Stupid, STUPID name. What were they thinking?
>Fightan is niche
>Tag fightan is even more niche
>Questionable roster picks
>Laughably small roster for a team game that took this long to develop
>Terrible advertising apparently
>The game has fucked up stuff like Jinx super xx tag into whatever you want
>The game has a lot more mechanics than it probably should if it's supposed to be beginner friendly
The last one is puzzling to me. If you look at a game like Marvel 3 you have like pushblock, tech rolling, air/ground throws, groundbounce/wallbounce/crumple, otg, and x-factor along with character mechanics.
This game has air/ground throw, pushblock (uses assist cd), retreating guard (killed by lows), tech roll (loses to throws), groundbounce/wallbounce (limited use in combos and results in a special knockdown that refills break meter), burst that is also used as a pseudo x-factor mid combo, universal charged heavies that can be dash canceled.
And then there's fuses, which can completely change the way your opponent can use their assists.
The ONLY thing that's beginner friendly is having special moves on a button and they even managed to make that complicated by splitting it into 2 buttons.

>>541958350
Try for yourself.
It's free.
I find them way more convoluted than motion inputs but maybe you'll feel differently.
Also it depends on what you're aiming for

>>541959151
delete this

>>541958923

I'm not hyped at all for Tokon. The movement looks cool, but all characters having pretty much the same assist until you unlock the last character seems kinda boring.

>>541959151
repost this

>>541954860
>WQHAT CAN I DO AGAINST AHRI THIS BITCH SPENDS ALL DAY IN THE AIR
90% of the clip is her being grounded...

Is Vi/Wick the new Yas/Ekko?

>>541959928

What Vi can do with Wick that Yasuo or Ekko can't?

i'd rather fight morridoom than ekko

>>541960035
full Bloodlust after Vi SA2

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would any NAbros be up for a lobby?

>5k on twitch
>1.6k of that is brian_f
grim
i wasnt even supposed to numberfag, i wanted to watch something while eating but no one's online

>>541951259
the insane amount of systems and character depth make it NOT beginner friendly. it's fucking crazy

>>541958923
riot has literally never made a “casual” game
That shit is legit just a meme the dotards proliferated, you’ve fallen for it.
They love overloading their games with convoluted gimmicks it’s in every single one from league to tft, shit’s 100% part of their business strategy. Probably some player retention bullshit

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I played casual duos with my friend as teammate and it was super fun

I don't know anything about arcane or league of legends but the game seems fun I just think I might hit a learning wall super quick and my friend is a scrub trying his absolute best

Who's good to pair with teemo from the base roster?

>>541962191
>>541951259
it’s not beginner friendly
Riot has never made a casual game ever.
Their MO has always been low barrier tk entry and then a shitton of knowledge checks so they catch the crackheads

This game losing to Tokon?

>>541962375
Duos are still bar none the most fun I've had in a fighting game
Something about playing together and chatting makes everything better, even if the other person is an absolute noob

>>541962352
this isn't entirely true
Valorant is somehow casual central
the amount of women that play that game is insane

Any idea how many players are on 2xko? Hows it compare to SF6, gameplay wise?

>>541962787
I hope not tokon is cringe

>>541963169
That’s just because shooting games are inherent more normiecore.
It’s easier to convince someone to play a game like that if you just want to hang out.
They still aren’t going to get a single kill or ever queue it solo

>>541963328
6 million players have played 2xko over the last 4 hours

Lol

>>541963328
69 billion players have played 2xko over the last 4 minutes

Thank god we don't have steam chart nerds here. Ruined City of the Wolves

>>541962926
Same. I feel for all the friendless anons.
doing combos with your bro is just cool

What can the devs realistically do so that I never again see a faggot spamming backdash at full screen?

>>541960938

People will find setups with Ekko and Yasuo. If they can't, the devs will find a way. Ekko and Yasuo aren't allowed not being better than everyone on everything.

>>541965568
The trick is running a fullscreen assist or having a projectile
It’s really only a tech that works against juggernaut braumchuds

I think I prefer slower fighting games 2bh

I think I saw somewhere that the Arcane bundle skins will be in the shop rotation sometime after this season, do we know if it'll be the same for the Warwick skin? I just wanna only get the battle pass right now if it's not a fomo thing

>$20 for a skin
what the FUCK

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How did RIOT make the most fun fighting game character of all time?
>>541962539
Illaoi
She has the best zoning assists in the game and her setups are all solid with him

im beginning to think that these devs hate rushdowns
how the fuck are you gonna have a game with 70% zoners and think its gonna be fun past 30 minutes

>>541970475
>70%
hmm so theres Teemo and Jinx.
I guess you can maybe call Yasuo and Ekko zoner capable.
I guess you can maaybe stretch Darius to being a spacer.
Idk where you got the next 2 characters im ngl

>>541969591
>tfw a skin costs R$80 (5% of minimum wage)
>that's actually a ''good'' price because 1:1 would cost R$100

>>541971065
Damn dude
How do you like, eat food? or play video games?

>>541969591
Saw the price tag and immediately knew I would never own one of those. lol

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>you can take off Vi's jacket with a secret input
holy FUCK my penis
Every day I thank god im not a poorfag

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>>541971041
you forgot ahri
but its hard to ignore the 5 characters that make the rest almost impossible to play, ESPECIALLY due to assists being effectively a a safe full screen combo starter with say darius or blitz

i love sitting full screen and not pressing a single button until you walk forward! i love just being forced to wait across the screen due to the unfuckwithable timewinder and assists that can keep you safe with gigantic buttons! its so fun actually!

how do tagfags convince people that their games are fun

>>541971430
I'm not paying 100 sheckels, riot.

>>541969591
>>541971065
It's not really the price but for 20$ you can get any good indie game or a discounted triple A game. So charging what's like 9+ hours of fun for 1 shitty skin that took 1 day to make it's dumb.

Why are they so afraid of releasing this game, why is it un early acess?

>>541971861
They can't figure out how to get it out to consoles

>>541971523
>ahri is a zoner
bro..
Also, your elo is showing bad man
90% of the characters have a fullscreen free neutral skip button and you can just parry a fullscreen assist or Yasuo windwall stab to get in for free whenever you want.
Nobody is playing like what you describe outside of like, emerald 2 two weeks ago in the closed beta

>>541971861
So that if the numbers turn out to be not so good, they can say "the game is still not out yet"

>>541971523
>getting zoned out by ahri
You're not doing much better than the guy complaining about her jumping bwo

>>541972016
i was playing jugger vi and now juggerwick because i couldn't bother learning electrics and i ended up getting to diamond before hitting the endless horde of jinx ekko / ekko yasuo / jinx yasuo / jinx darius / ekko darius bullshit of people sitting literally full screen backdashing from roundstart to waiting until you tense a muscle to throw a projectile or assist. its boring. im bored. this isnt fun.

and then they nerfed juggernaut because ???? yeah
>>541972175
its mostly her jump back fireball rain assist thats aids to deal with everything else is manageable

>>541971861
Because it keeps fucking crashing and having memory leak issues

>>541948527
yeah this is really strong and funny too but for regular combos that aren't metered ww doesn't do anything for him
i miss doing mhs2>blitz>mhs2s2

>>541970285
thanks, haven't really played illaoi that much so ill lab out that team

Who should i pair Vi with if i want to go with sidekick?

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>>541971523
>he's complaining about getting zoned
>when parry costs nothing
>when projectile invulnerability is a universal mechanic
>when you can just fullscreen tag anyone with any assist
>when anti airs are utterly dogshit
Literally just jump at them and call assist nigga its really not that hard
Zoning is literally asscheeks in this game
>>541972987
>plays juggernigger
Learn the game retard
You're trying to mountain bike on training wheels with a pacifier in your mouth.
Like??? JUST TAKE THEM OFF
>noooo but I need my training wheels to have fun!
No you're just scared of learning like every other 8 year old

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>>541971698
i'll get $20 of enjoyment out of seeing my beloved husband run around in a cute outfit every time i play this game
WHEN RIOT DECIDES I'M ALLOWED TO *FUCKING* BUY IT

why are the combo trials so frustrating to navigate and reset? sometimes it just eats my input when im trying to reset the trial. and why the fuck is there a skip trial but no way to go back? fucking idiotic

cant think of any other game where you hit reset trial and it fucking just ignores your input or takes like 2 seconds to reset, like its waiting for something

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The fact that mushroom makes the enemy do the 360 spin when they get hit by it is so fucking funny bros

>>541974157
The Reset works fine on my machine
The fact there's no previous trial button is pretty dumb though

>>541971193
R$ went from 1:1 to USD in the 90s to 1:2 in the 10s.
It's 1:5.3 now
It's... harsh

>If you do Warwick's medium combo too close to a wall, his super will whiff due to jumping from the other wall
Epic, but i can't say it isn't faithful to the source material

wanna play tuko... but my hands and arms hurt from work...
go on without me bros...

>>541974818 (me)
*air medium combo to clarify

>>541974567
i dont have any inputs for the trial itself eaten just the reset button, its maddening

>>541973401
why does everyone who glazes this game sound retarded

>>541975151
Nigga you think im glazing this?
I'm the one trying to zone people
Im trying to shoot one projectile over here and they jump at me and my anti-air whiffs nigga the fuck you want me to do?
If you're pissing your pants about zoning you have to literally not be playing the game, what the hell are you doing are you just afk?

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>>541973297
Anyone?

>>541975474
Just pick who you like bwo
The game has been out for a day

>>541975474
well it depends on what you want. illaoi has a gigantic tentacle slam assist that's pretty strong, if you want a projectile then you can't go wrong with ekko who has the single best projectile assist in the game. i don't play vi but there's probably some crazy combo extensions you could do with blitz, i have a lot of fun using blitz assist with darius
just b yourself bro

>>541971545
nobody asked, poorbro

>>541974157


Why does it start you at the other end of the galaxy each time you reset and you have to waste time to walk over?

Why does the dummy start blocking when you drop the combo so you have to wait for it to get out of the blocking state?


Combo trials are something that nobody gets wrong. Nobody except Riot.

>>541975839
>Why does it start you at the other end of the galaxy each time you reset and you have to waste time to walk over?
brother what in god's green earth are you talking about
press your dash macro one time and you are on them

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>>541973401
>parry costs nothing
costs a bar and if youre on juggernaut you cant really be throwing all your damage around like that
>projectile invulnerability is a universal mechanic
???
>when anti airs are utterly dogshit
thats why you usually use your fucking projectiles in the air because the devs decided to make all of them perfectly fine from air (they also combo the exact same)
>zoning is literally asscheeks in this game
>>541975452
nvm clearly you are dogshit at zoning
>plays juggernaut
yes i will play my 1v1 riot fighting game that i was promised 5 years ago. yes i will play this until the day i quit this game. i will NOT use assists like some cuck. i WILL oneshot you with fury. i WILL happy birthday.
>training wheels
if anything juggernaut is harder to learn than le chungus sit fullscreen pressing nothing until my wholesome assist comes from downtown to play neutral for me
i might play with assists when more than 1 yordle drops

>>541975839
Post a screenshot of your game it might be bugged bro

>>541975839
>Why does the dummy start blocking when you drop the combo
this is how it always works in all games because the dummy is set to block on everything except first hit
the other stuff i agree with you

>>541975975
When your parry parries something it refunds the bar bwo

>>541976141
unless it hits a shitty fodder projectile

>>541976216
?? no ??
You actually get MORE meter back
If you multi parry Jinx minigun it builds like 50% of a bar

>>541976391
maybe im misremembering but if you parry a single bullet from jinx from the spray it just refunds nothing
either that or the match lagged when i parried it

tips for illaoi expert trial 2? i cant land the charged 2H

>>541947783
Yasuo is so fucking sick

>>541976513
It pays you back no matter what bro
I watch Void parry 4 projectiles in a row and get in every single game he plays into a jinx

Bros, why did someone say find me on Facebook after beating me and leaving the set

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>>541947783
Hey can somebody make the cry about it edit with this Yasuo clip
Thanks

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Can you parry midair?

HASAGI が -10 で j.2H が ASS の場合、YASUO プレイヤーはBURGER KINGまたはMCDONALDSで仕事を探さざるを得なくなります

>>541976978
no lol that would be so insanely fucked

The patch notes were confusing as fuck regarding the dates. What is coming tomorrow with Yasuo nerfs?

>>541945592
why should i even think about buying skins or chromas when i could just goon to base ahri toes every fucking day?

Wasn't in the beta so I'm still trying to figure out what is worth doing in combos. Ending with Warwick's LVL2 seems to do maybe 10 more damage than LVL1 most of the time, sometimes even less damage than the LVL1.
What's the best way to build a combo to not get fucked by the scaling then? I'm trying combos that don't start with lights, something like cM, sM, H etc. Or is Wwick's LVL2 just not that good? Haven't played around the cast yet.

>>541977958
one of the big benefits of ww2 super 2 is that it builds like 2/3 of his bloodrage
don't worry so much about perfect optimization unless you're a super labrat. 50% per touch is enough

>>541977823
hasagi 10 frames of recovery
j2h 6 frames of recovery
throwable cross up
those are the ones that will kindaa matter

>>541978027
I suck at actually playing fighting games so I spend a lot of my time fucking around in training mode. Tag fighters aren't really my cup of tea either, I just really need a palate cleanser from Slime Fighter.

>>541978239
your juggernaut mode lil bro??

this game should really give you an option to not get matched vs. streamers. i don't want to get my ass beat in front of your audience bro

>>541978239
ok well that's fair enough
this game's pretty fun to just play training mode in too

>>541977823
ranked mode

how do you beat command throws on wakeup
jumping doesn't do shit

>>541978828
Stop rolling on wakeup, you can get grabbed out of it
Other than that jump harder

>braum puts up his shield
>ww command jump onto it and command grab him
i think this dog was made specifically to kill braum. never mind i'm playing darius/ww i think. might give teemo another shot but this feels solid. though he doesnt seem to meme THAT hard with darius' bleed

>>541978828
hold a special button to do an invincible wakeup attack

>>541976554
bupm

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>>541977260
>no lol that would be so insanely fucked
hehehe...yeah

>>541948985
>Also I know why Chris G loves the game now
Hasn't he been openly shitting on it for awhile?

>>541979428
I am literally just holding up, bro
I can't jump any harder and I'm definitely not rolling, still getting my ass thrown

>>541965568
They just need to put assists on cooldown if you backdash. You should also not be able to call assists while jumping.

>>541979941
ayoooooooooooo no throw protection at all? das od doe

Why does this dogshit game not have training queues?

>fight ekko yasuo one time
maybe i'll log out and wait for the nerfs.

>>541978828
wakeup neutral gets meatied by everything
getup attack

I was playing Darius Illaoi but I didn't vibe much with it. I was doing fine eith both characters, but it was more like I was playing two separate characters rather than a team
since then I've switched to Vi and my God it's a whole different world. I am now playing a team

>>541981307
vi/who? answer carefully

this game feels so confusing
why did add so many mechanics and shit to it? did it really need two specials? everything feels so disjointed, in SF the buttons (3p, 3k) feel natural. in tekken, one button for each limb. in this game i press one button and some totally random shit happens. i pretty another button and somethin totally different happens

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>>541981459
Dude hasnt played smash bros or something?

I think I just played against the god casual gatekeeper himself and the true barrier for the average timmy, jumpback light dart spam juggernaut teemo

>>541981459
Your old as fuck tekken bro rep Aris was having fun doing the yassuo combo trials, if he can do it, you can

>>541981530
no im not a smashie
i need to rewire my brain i guess

jug ahri bros how do we open peeps up

>>541981678
i just find it hard to adjust, i think the game feels ok so far. aris is 100% shilling it out though, he'd never play a game that looks like 2xko unless there's some specific reason. he avoids games with this art style like the plague

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>>541981459
It's anime normals
Light Medium Heavy, 2H for launcher is how Blazblue or Guilty Gear works
Special buttons are the kinda obtuse ones.
I think S2 is usually the one you press a lot? Jinx's projectiles and Teemo's shrooms and WW and Vi's mash buttons are all S2. But it seems weird choosing S2 for that instead of S1 idk

>>541981815
I was watching him a bit earlier, he says he doesn't like the art mostly and called it tagslop, but doing the combos was fun and they felt good to do and said he liked playing the game
Also was happy about hearing how the devs are all people he knows and are behind making sure the combo stuff feels right

>>541982072
yeah LMH is fine, just S1 and S2 are fucked. Then there's tag too. i wish they had done it granblue style instead

>>541982149
>Also was happy about hearing how the devs are all people he knows and are behind making sure the combo stuff feels right
yeah maybe thats why hes shilling it or not talking shit. the 'combos feel good'? combos feel great in tons of games he'll never touch because they are cartoony or anime style, but this gets a pass because his grimy fgc clown buddies are on the dev team

we do need classic controls tho
i feel like some stupid zoomer faggot pressing a single button to shoot my specials

>>541981756
Triple overhead or tick throws
Also you can get a cross up after throw if you airdash over

>>541981543
I played a single set against a Teemo and I have come to the conclusion that he is literally Hitler

>>541982193
I think the directions are intuitive enough once you've used them a few times
At least for playing Jinx the rocket jump input being down rocket and the zapper being back rocket is pretty easy to get.
>GB inputs
That game uses a special button right? That only allows for 4 specials, how would they fit the 7-8 most 2xko champs have

>>541982465
>how would they fit the 7-8 most 2xko champs have
by removing them? i think the game has way too much shit in it, or at least feels that way right now without experience. and gb specials are 'traditional' - upper cut, fireball, etc. they 'feel' right. in 2xko directional buttons + specials feel so complicated

>>541982315
For me it just feels awkward doing so much on my top row and then using LK and MK for specials. If they wanted it this way I'd have just integrated all the specials as command normals off of LMH. That way you'd get less awkward finger travel and consolidate it down into a four button fighter.

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>get absolutely shat on by Ekko/Teemo
>doing loops I've never seen before
>got hit with a longer combo than I've seen any Yasuo player hit
>haven't seen a single Yasuo in days
>Ekko still obnoxious
>Teemo is a nightmare when played right but he's hard as fuck
i don't even know who to play anymore. i'm tired of seeing warwick cuz his combos are boring as fuck and he's everywhere

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>>541982416
>I played a single set against a Teemo and I have come to the conclusion that he is literally Hitler
XD!

>>541982819
sex vex seems to be the universal answer
lets just wait for her...

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>>541982601
>removing them
BACK
I aint losing a single one of my teemo specials BACK

>>541982890
she's never getting added.

>>541983019
why tho
we like dark, gloomy poop holes here...

>yasuo combo nerfs are already out
>he's still doing 20 hit combos meterless
i hate these faggot fucking devs so much dude
NERF
HIM

>>541983168
i love vex too but out of all the yordles, i just don't see them adding her next

THE REAL QUESTION HERE IS GWEN FUCKING WHEN?!!

I love sex dolls so much...

yeah i'm out man. i'm just gonna wait til tomorrow, it feels so stupid to keep playing against this onslaught of ekko/yasuo spam when nerfs are coming tomorrow. of course those nerfs aren't going to change fuck all but at least they'll be there.

Autocombos are too good in this game. I wasted time learning a Yasuo combo and then an Ahri mashes heavy and does more damage.

>>541975452
Brother you need to go back to the fucking drawing board if you're struggling to zone people in this game. This is THE braindead retard zoning game.

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you know chat i gotta boycott ewc because fuck #saudiblood money but i'll gladly be #sponsored by riot for hours on end who are #sponsored by ewc through 2028, it's different, buy an #ad and buy a $100 battle pass

>>541985031
i've never seen him stream another game for this long of a sitting desu
i think the jam may actually like tuko god forbid

>>541984461
>>541975975
>self admitted low diamond retards say how op and easy zoning is
>not a one person playing lame or running away or zoning in any tournament in the last month straight
>its literally just people getting run down and mixed from round start
Gee whizz truly puzzling stuff here

>b-but yasuo
no, the yasuos are not playing like your low diamond yasuos
They are just running at people

>>541982303
the game is fun autist, settle down

>>541985191
No, it's very strong and easy to do.

>>541985510
rank?

>>541985164
>i've never seen him stream another game for this long of a sitting desu
he does this for every new game he wants to commentate. the literal exact same thing happened with sf6 and strive
you idiots just memoryhole everything because you have the attention span of a goldfish

zoning is not bad in this game per se. but i do think the offensive strategies at this point are much stronger overall. i think chip is too miniscule for zoning to be truly oppressive, basically ever. Teemo has some cool poison chip damage gimmicks, but i think he works too hard to get the badge to make them very effective. Jinx's zoning is strong but once she lands a hit she does basic setplay so she has a good mix of the two. I just think we need more dedicated zoners, I don't think the game itself is bad for a zoning playstyle.

I was ranked top 50 challenger btw

>>541985920
Cool highelo bro
Did you ever btfo sajam?

>>541985031
It is just unironically a good game. Honestly Arcsys needs to step it up. Tokon looks kinda wack.

>>541985721
Grandmaster 1500 or so. Not pro streamer, top 8er material, but absolutely it's a perfectly good strategy.

>>541986042
No I haven't ran into him in this game yet. I've played him before offline in tournament and wrecked him tho in a different game.

>>541986142
based
how do i become as gawdlike as you

>>541985920
Zoners are just dogshit in every tag game. Like what's the point working your ass off for chip dmg when everyone is projectile invulnerable or has full screen gap closers and shit not to mention beam supers.

>>541986075
>backdashed from "this is THE braindead retard zoning game" to "well its a good strategy you can do"
I see now wow that was pretty strong
Was that GM level backtrack spam?

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It's day two, amigos. How come nobody is streaming?
I wonder if this going to be the ultimate fate for this game. Complete ghost town whenever Sajam. Diaphone, Leffen (and Max, whem a new character drops) aren't online and there isn't a big tournament to watch

>>541986223
Best advice I can give you is to find a local scene. Only way I ever got truly good. Lots of strong players gave me good advice from watching my matches when I first started to come around. If you don't have a local scene it's much harder. Play a lot. Watch your replays and make a mental note for when you get hit and what you could have done differently. Don't get frustrated from losing, use it as a learning tool.

>>541986328
>muh semantics
IDK man if you're not interested in an actual conversation I can just call you a fag and be done with it.

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>>541986270
>Zoners are just dogshit in every tag game
Okay lets not get carried away there, you just don't remember MAHVEL

Most modern tag games do a decent amount of work just to make zoners dogshit
DBFZ had all their superdashing and reflecting and shit
BBTAG had adachi insta-win neutral there is no neutral there is only mix
This game has the free parry and built projectile invul into every character

>>541986516
>built projectile invul into every character
you've said that several times now and nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about

>>541986270
Zoning is good in versus games because it minimizes randomness. That's why Chris G picked up Morrigan and dominated with her for a long time. Versus games are wild and being up close and personal with your opponent is just asking to get randomly smacked with something. That's why a lot of high level players in this game backdash a lot. Trying to minimize randomness.

>>541986270
Morrigan in MVC3, nigga

>>541986516
Morrigan is an outlier that was clearly unintended. Her chip would've been reduced by 80% almost immediately if UMVC3 had patches.

>>541986707
There's a bunch of good zoners in mvc3. And a lot of the top tier characters have strong projectiles, too. Dorm Deadpool Hawkeye Zero Morrigan Magneto Modok Doom VJoe Chris are all strong to top tier characters with good zoning aspects to their kit.

In MVC2 you have Spiral and Cable. Spiral was dominant for YEARS and is like the hardest zoner you could imagine.

>>541986631
Every rushdown character has a move that just phases through projectiles
The big bodies all randomly have moves that just destroy projectiles coming at them
Have you never seen Illaoi do that shit

>>541987103
Name them because the only non super moves I can think of that completely negates projectiles are Warwicks S1 and Braums S2 charged. And windwall but he's not phasing through anything.

I don't think Illaoi has anything like that.

>>541987204
illaoi can destroy projectiles with her rekka she just never does

>>541987274
ah ok

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>>541987204
Brother
look at this shit
>name them
uhh Vi dash, Vi super, Ekko roll, WW, WW super, Yas doesnt dash through but his windwall stab destroys all projectiles, his dash super is also projectile invul. Blitz rocket punch destroys projectiles, idk I guess ahri doesnt have one but she can just dash over them all anyways

>>541987434
lmao thats nuts

>>541987434
You'd have to be a masochist to play a zoner in a tag game. Especially since one fuck up is usually instant TOD.

>>541987532
Jinx is literally top tier

>>541987607
>Jinx is literally top tier
Ekko and Yasuo exists

>>541987673
yes and shes right after them

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pulse vi has a rogue color thats cool
underrated skin imo, she's pretty hot in this

>>541981402
Vi Darius

>>541987768
The heels are making me kinda want to buy it
Seeing a tomboy girl wearing heels nowadays feels so rare and that shit is my fetish fuuuck man

>>541987768
i think vi is hot in general. nice ass
ahri is hot too and i've seen complain she isn't hot enough in this game.

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>>541987784
correct answer, you pass

>>541986385
Max already abandoned it
Oh no no a haha

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>secret input to take the hood off
okay now wheres my secret input to get the braids back

>>541987883
I imagine Vi is good with anyone because she's busted but I will be lying if it doesn't feel like she fits him like a glove

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>>541987858
They really made Vi a hip demon
She's competing with Kai'sa, Irelia and Qiyana now out of nowhere

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Good googly moogly

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>>541987858
>ahri isn't hot enough
Not true

this game has schizophrenic frame data

>>541988653
no i know i meant i've seen people complain she isn't hot enough. i think she's SMOKIN

>>541988653
look at dem toes bro
oh dayum

>>541988687
stop being autistic
just enable pulse combo and have fun

>>541988847
??????
what the fuck are you talking about

https://x.com/gsmVoiD/status/1976018092984779165

>>541989427
lol i did this to somebody earlier and had instant flashbacks to some faggot nago player in strive putting his mask on, blocking my mix, and killing me for it

>>541982601
a lot of specials and normals feel like they're there just to be combo fodder or some shit

>>541947796
Combo trials/training is much more fun than the actual game, which is essentially taking turns to do combo trials in the other player's face since neutral, spacing, timing and just about everything that actually makes FGs engaging is absent.

The only "depth" comes from the million bolted on autistic mechanics since the base fighting engine is so dogshit basic. It's basically what people who hate fighting games think all fighting games are.

>>541990193
tuko literally has more neutral than sf6 and about as much as strive potentially more, thoughbeit
no idea where tekken would go on this list as it's a party masher

>>541986385
>gaules
>jeanmago
I know what you are

>>541986385
It's just doesn't reward putting the hours in. Once you have your optimal worked out there's not really much more to it. There's 0 expression and basically every set plays out the same.

>>541990345
It doesn't have any neutral. It has very brief gaps in between each player unloading their 10 hit blockstring frame trap mixup in each other's face. At least in green slime fighter you can still do play as a setup char/zoner or play reactively , 2x there is none of that. If you're not unloading your string in their face, you're probably losing.

Whole FG world needs a reset. SF6 is the pinnacle of the modern ADHD offense heavy doctrine and even that's only big in Japan. Hopefully VF6 is that game.

>>541989958
bro, this your first fighting game?

>>541990857
nyo but it is one of the worst I've played

>esl hours
>spam shit posting from timmies
Never fails

>>541990978
>DBFZ
they can do whatever they want, it's fucking dragon ball
>t7
is a better game than jive
>jive
shit ass game

>>541990345
>tuko literally has more neutral than sf6 and about as much as strive potentially more
you don't actually believe that
t. someone who has been hating SF6 and strive since before you were even born

>>541990857
He's 100% right.

This is a game that is obsessed with what happens after you land a hit, rather than then more interesting part of fighting games, which is how you land that hit in the first place.

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>>541991438
no, i do believe it

>>541991616
>800 hours and never got out of diamond

>>541991823
i'd say ft10 but i'm not reinstalling that trash lol
sf6 is a game of superdashing, fireball superdashing, and throw loops. it's one of the worst video games ever made

>>541976554
>>541979674
hey bro i finally managed to hit it. delay the j.s1 until you're as close to the ground as you can, because that'll give you more time to run forward and charge the 2h.

>>541979818
Not anymore, since he found Teemo, this monkey

>>541986385
You are brown and poor, post more about how you can't buy the Arcane bundle instead, Brazillian 3rd worlder

>>541992381
ok

>>541986385
And for the other games, who is keeping those up? Nip 1? Nip 2? Nip 3? only nips, you shitskin.

>>541993453
k

>>541963563
>normiecore
With those tick rates? LMAO

>>541957287
Riot cancelling Pool Party was the right choice.

>>541957287
See you again tomorrow, and the year after, doomsissie.