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>>541988682
This is getting annoying. Did half of /keng/ posters get banned for being too real on 4chin?

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>>541992376
Someone made fun of my writing style so you've been put in timeout.

>>541998048
on which general?

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>Reaver raid perfectly syncs up with crab raider raid
>After the kerfuffle's over I have to keep the crab cunts from running away with my food and the reaver cunts from running away with my guys


I didn't think crab raiders would behave like the goddamn black dragon ninjas

I rescued some slaves but they're bugged and they're "Following leader" on an unconscious guard. How do I unfuck them?

>>542012979
try to save and load.

>>542016091
So far I tried that and:
- walking far away and walking back
- kidnapping their leaders and taking them well away from the prison
None really worked.

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day 50

>>542017338
>that ominous demonic cow
The skeleton is safe. The skeleton has nothing that the headless infernal cow wants.

>>542017635
we got like 7 more back home

>>542017009
If they're important slaves you could try re-enslaving them and freeing them again, or using a mod to recruit prisoners
Otherwise you accept some people don't survive.

>>542017779
Do they have their own cow pen?

>>542020616
well we have a little shack we use for indoctrination if that counts

>>542022098
Do show it.

>>542012979
Rescuing is not necessarily going to cleanly lead to an escaping slave AI. It depends on who the slave was plus what, if any, dialogue interactions you had with them. Being a slave, escaping slavery and becoming free are all separate AI package types. And it sounds like those NPCs are still "following" the enslaved package.

>>542025730
it's a tiny shack in shem with some beds and cages, nothing spectacular
once i get time i'll make apartments for all my recruits tough, maybe i'll make a demon stripclub to consagrate as a degenerate

>>542026176
Aight, take a picture once that happens.

It feels like such a waste to not use some Meitou but it is a fact some weapons are ass no matter the stats.

>>542031284
I only use the edge type weapons if i find them in ruins etc. I think the meitou ones are way too overpowered. They just crush everything once you get reasonable stats. I also deleted armour king, dude is a jerk honestly. Scraphouse only sells skeleton smith mk 1-3 in my game. you can tweak the enemy stats all you want but it just trains your units up faster/op quicker.

>>541998048
F them. If you like something, others will too.

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>>542034206
>I also deleted armour king, dude is a jerk honestly
He is the only Skeleton I left alive

>>542034206
Armour King
>Alignment, human sympathizer, known traitor
>Role, arms dealer, turned armor dealer
>Intelligence, master craftsman (non-P4)
>Crimes, aiding and abetting human-aligned rebels
>Formerly known as, Cross
>Status, unknown

That's the biggest armor debuff you're willing to take?
I have -40% dex on one guy and it looks cool but it's pissing me off

/keng/, don't die.

>>542039528
I'm fine with using samurai armor since my character is op, but the majority of npcs suffer major setbacks from armor.

>>542047643
Samurai Armor is pretty much objectively the best and doesn't even lower your dex

>>542038064
I view armour king as a end game boss, same with tinfist. (maybe i read armour king wrong & he isnt actually aligned with the skeleton final directives or whatever to destroy humans, also just my guess on that). I usually kill them all off too though. Even killing the great library skeleton in blackscratch. I kidnap Iyo, and usually heal the tech hunter pursuers after i ko them if possible.

>>542038905
I always wondered why he was so close to blister hill. for some reason i would've guessed cross was a human female b/c the description "a legendary master smith, of whom nothing is known except his (...her?) name from the blade inscriptions: "Cross". " & b/c they are so limited, i view it as someones lifes work & mastery b4 they passed i guess. Idk just my first thoughts reading it anyway

>>542050668
I'm obviously just guessing, but, I take that Gatwood the Soft has a major ideological impact upon the Skeleton dissidents, as like Armour King explains via the mental disease. The traitors were not explicitly going to war with Cat-Lon - they were "siding with the humans" and thus "had to thrall them all".

What does that look like? Tinfist refusing to use violence against humans. Armour King (Cross) swearing off weaponry production, in favor of defensive-only armor. Perhaps Skeletons under the Head of Agriculture let the grid complex fail - or maybe they destroyed it to dis-empower the regime. Iyo's empire of whispers and obfuscations abide by the "hands off" approach essentially all Skeletons (minus certain southeastern denizens) abide by. Force politics were abandoned in favor of guidance from the shadows.

>>542039528
anything except athlethics debuff that go above 10%

>>542048526
>samurai helmet
>samurai chestplate
>darkened leather armour
>samurai clothpants
>drifter boots
alternatively wooden sandals + samurai legplates

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Ghost defeated again, arms broken, fleeing. It's shame beyond words for a shek.

>>542057148
>the faces of Kenshians always remain stoic
Chris you lazy asshole...

>>542062183
Control your emotions, woman.

>>542062407
"emotions" and "hysterics" are two different words, female. No-one on Kenshi feels anything, from sadness to joy. There is no shame nor pride on the faces of Kenshians. All because Chris couldn't ass himself to love his own "magnum opus".

>>542065407
>Why isn't the unarmored Shek I jumped with 12 guys crying and sniveling
He has more pride in the flapping remains of his arm than you'll ever know in your life.

>>542065407
>All because Chris couldn't ass himself to love his own "magnum opus".
But his Magnum Opus is kenshi 2, that's why he stopped working on the proof of concept version and swapped to make the proper one.

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>>542065847
I think it was a fair fight, two (mid 30s) with rusty weapons & a baby wolf vs Ghost (70s) & two berserkers. besides kral took on 100 swordsman. I bet ghost never picks up a sword again in this alternate universe, he was spared with his shame.

>>542039528
Every time I try to make something other than samurai armor work, there's a notable drop in results from fights. The only reasons to do something else is really just crossbows, sneaky bullshit, or fashion

>>542066015
No, Kenshi 2 is a case of too many chefs and a vision captured by business interest. Kenshi 1 was the honest result of the passion project. It is now a profit-driven project meant to capitalize upon the cult fanbase of the first game. If they truly cared they would be polishing Kenshi 1.

>>542076707
Nice headcanon.

>>542076858
Exactly no argument.

>>542076923
Can't argue with fanfiction.

>>542076707
Okay, Debbie Downer, jk. I’d just expect the usual. Either microtransactions, passes, or paid cosmetics like a ‘Hiver bundle’ or locked map areas. If that happens, I’ll trash it. Until then, we don’t know what to expect. Honestly, it’d be a miracle if a modern game launched without some kind of BS, but i think games leaning on it will start flopping in this climate. You can only run a scam so long b4 players see through the snake oil. I hope kenshi ii is good

>>542083124
It has been seven years. If anything my concerns come from how well I think Kenshi 1 turned out in spite of its limitations. Here's where things stand:
>no vertical slice as of yet
>no in-engine glimpse beyond brief snippets
>little in the way of confirmed systems...we don't know if any semblance of a mount, vehicle and boat system working as of yet
>no insight about what improvements to the modkit has seen or what more will be possible
>no Steam store page raising suspicions of Epic exclusivity upon release
>UE5 (going on 6), which has been continually panned by players as being a performance minefield and hardware hungry, so you might want to check your specs before purchasing shiny new 4K multi-core Kenshi
I hope it's going well too. Unfortunately, we don't have much to work with beyond hope.

>>542057148
Broken...

wake up guys

>>542106113
Neat

>no rape mod on LL
wtf
there truly is no rape in dark fantasy games...

>>542112512
Kenshians have no capability to feel fear. Starvers attack characters dressed in masterwork armor and wielding meitou weapons. How can you rape someone who was born without fear?

But really though - Chris undercook his game, severely.

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day 60-70, time to explore the remainder of this world, we don't have that many enemies anyways
>>542028512
>https://files.catbox.moe/j3k81s.png
i worked with what i had, should've gotten colored lights and some poles

Greenlander are for ___
Scortchlanders are for ___
Sheks are for ___

>>542119346
Greenlanders are for food production and research
Scortchlanders are for smithing and sneaking
Sheks are for defense and labour
hive soldiers are also for defense and labour
hive princes are for research and medicine
hive workers are for labour and farming
skeletons are for crossbows and robotics

>>542119547
on this note, the only races i bother to put at doing their dedicated job is scorchlanders at the smithy and worker drones at the mines/farms (because they apparently like it?) and sheks just go into expeditions because they don't like to work, good given we need the manpower to carry loot

>>542118493
>7 demomic headless cows
>2 are in cages
What did they do?

>>542119346
farming
crimes
violence

>>542119647
I think smithing is the only thing that's both grindy enough and actually matters enough for racial exp bonuses to be considered. Most base tasks are more about just keeping a body there as you improve the equipment. Most combat skill penalties are sort of self correcting unless you're doing weird psycho grindy shit like putting amputees in beds.

>>542119547
>Using skeleton for anything other than dead scrap metal
My brother is Okran, thats heretical.

>>542119953
nothing really, it's just morale boost before they leave the base for a scouting party

>>542121495
I always just have them man the harpoons and forget about them, since putting anything that needs food on them tends to result in them starving

>>542121716
Sure, arm those homicidal robots that nearly drove humanity to extinction. what could possibly go wrong.

>>542121897
Well maybe if humans didn't decide to stop eating every time they get their hands on a mounted harpoon turret the skeletons wouldn't have been in charge in the first place

>>542121897
never ask an okranite citizen the race of its god

>>542122681
Have you ever looked at a statue of Okran? he is clearly human. maybe its time for you to go to Rebirth and gaze at his great statue

>>542123452
>born only 40 years ago
does he know

>>542124031
Iyo, shut the fuck up.

>>542124031
>Being old
I'm on to you skelly! servant of Narko I will destroy you.

>>542124151
>>542124740
>goes underwater and toggles godmode

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>>541988682
mods to try

>>542130330
Slopeless Mod has given me more problems than solutions

>>542132471
how

>>542119346
Sheks are for picking cotton

>>542106113
which art style is this? I've seen a lot of anons using it.

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GREATER CRABDOM COMETH

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Sovl...

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>>542135602
Probably all me. It's called Native Stylize

>>542144424
remind me how did one install shaders into this thing?

>>542145346
I don't remember but the mod itself should have instructions, I remember this one being more straightforward than other shaders.

mhm I tried the Kenshi 2 style reshade, and I didn't like it. It ran quite poorly, too.

>>542151070
I used that before native stylize but I couldn't stand how shit would outline through the UI so I removed it.

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>>542151539
I'll give native stylize a try, thanks.

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>Made a base and prospected it, it looked like it'd have good wind
>Chose some cool spots for windmills and built 2, but the wind was low and they were always at half power
>Turned out the base area was on the border of 2 regions with different wind power and fertility and I'd built my 2 windmills right on the line where the shitty wind starts
At least I know the cause now.

>>542159323
Its annoying to me that the deadlands & certain mountain regions dont have any wind. Admittedly i've never used generators b4 though, i should try sometime to see if its decent but just seems like more unnecessary management to deal with.

>random recruitable drifters in my settlement
I'm pretty sure I don't have the mod that adds that. Is that just in the game now?

>>542161072
Generators are surprisingly easy to manage, I just have my hemp guy make fuel and haul to the generators when he's not farming, fuel lasts a long time and batteries take care of the rest.

>First time I settled this location everything worked
>This time there's some kind of invisible rock randomly spawning all over where the farming area is and removing foliage doesn't help

Fucking hell.

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>>542161280
oh it's one of those "does too many things" mods

>place called berserker country
>there's no berserker town where you can participate in a huge arena tournament and win a shek wife
>or just die

>>542167081
Berserkers can't have towns, they go berserk and break shit.

>>542167690
it could've been a ruined city left by the pirates or whatever. That region is simply too pretty to be totally useless.

>>542171335
Here's what I came up with
>embrace the name, create a small population of Berserkers which inhabit the largely barren region
>add some wildlife in the forms of mostly bulls
>frame it as the Western Hive inserting itself along the shoreline some time ago, taking over what was formerly a part of the broader Shek tribal domains, splitting off a group of traditionalists who survive in a diminished capacity in the north, as like their outcasted brethren in the south who have no place in the Kingdom's holdings
>the tribals adhere more closely to a kind of shamanistic big-man style of organization, ramping up the xenophobic & aggressive tendencies whilst discarding much of the civilizing touch the Kralist reforms introduced
>these Shek are faced with a far more dangerous neighborhood due to being hemmed in by the wild Shriekers, wandering Cannibals and unmoving blob of Hivers whether it's the Hive itself to the south or masses of Fogmen to the east. No friend is found in the Esata regime either.
>for some setup, the main food source (the Bull herds) are hit with a wave of wasting disease, causing the northern Berserkers to become increasingly desperate in their rituals and resort to lashing out at their neighbors

regions that dissapointed me (moreso than the rest because they're wasted potential):
>the pits east: nothing of relevance over here, too out of the way
>none: literally nothing
>the black desert (region): confusing, and the ninjas over there don't even wear proper gear to deal with the acid rain and the toxic gas, nothing noteworthy other than the brap clouds that wander around, this could be an extension of the deadlands and i wouldn't even notice, specially since the black desert city isn't even in the black desert city
>berserker country: wasted potential, could put atleast some ruined settlements to work as outpost for the shek if you rebuild, but we god absolutely nothing
>shrieking forest: the shrieking bandits feel too LULZ RANDOMZ XD for me, maybe if they had expanded lore or some form of explanation behind why they are as they are, otherwise it feels like it turns a very pretty region into a minefield that isn't even worth passing by
>dreg: if it only had like 50% arid/swamp fertility, i guess that explains why the holy nation never tried to take it, but otherwise it turns a very expansive chunk of the map into a dead region with only a fistfull of hive huts sandwiched between more interesting areas
>shem: while it is nice as free real estate, you'd think that such a calm region would be more heavily populated, even one big/medium settlement would have been enough
>burning forest: a pretty region of the map that feels like an artificial roadblock, maybe if it and shem/flats lagoon swapped places i'd believe it, but why is there a forest (and one of the only true forests around there at that) that has acid rain every other day on it? even without getting rid of the acid, there's nothing noteworthy there, it's decent to settle down at if you're playing hivers or skeletons but you may as well just settle in shem for convenience or high bonefields for catun's proximity
the rest of regions at least got a bit of something going on for them, imo

kenshit

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Base turning out pretty cool.

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>>542175093
I agree about the shrieking bandits but I enjoyed my attempt at settling there.

>>542175093
Yep, i feel the same about those areas basically. Berserker country looks very cool, but i cant find much to do with it, surrounding areas are neat looking as well.

>>542182063
Looks nice, i've made a base here a few times, this was my fist game base i ever made, everyone died though in that game.

How does one do a pure Holy Nations Citizen run anyway? Besides their laws and rules

>If you lose a leg on anyone, you're basically discarded possibly arms also
>Medium First Aid kits only
>A town without anyone selling first aid kits...
>Not suppose to use Ancient Science Books
>Females can't participate (which is fine I guess, just like women should be second class citizens IRL)

Like, if you go pure, should you not trade or visit hivers, shek or united cities?

>>542184459
Okran told you in a dream you should follow the first rich idiot to walk into town no matter what heresy he wants you to take part in.

>>542184459
Idk, I tried it a few times, kinda got stale not using tech beyond lights and other stuff like robot limbs. Once you get enough rep with HN they dont care about robot limbs anymore & other "unholy" stuff though. So i guess you have to pretend you are using evil for a holy purpose or something. Idk

Should've made some type wooden HN allowed prosthetic limb maybe, but theres no way to really do this.

>>542192394
Yeah, they should have had crutches or wheelchairs (lol) or something.

>>542175093
Where I settle a base usually has much more to do with what events I want to see rather than how good they are for farming or whatever. If you're really desperate you can hold off until you get hydroponics through researching in town, but missing out one of the major factions interacting with you actually feels like you're losing a lot to me.

el beep

>>542192906
I guess wheelchairs are actually doable in kenshi, just in a silly way. id be happy with peg legs, thats on my kenshi ii wishlist. especially if theres ships for certain.

Riding on a shoulder of that unga-bunga cyborg woman must be fun...

I asked this week about the fungoid mod. I installed the fungoid expanded patch and tested it and I don't recommend it. The fungoid are basically impossible to kill, not only do they have like 300 limb health. the regen rate is absurd and they can heal during combat as if they were in a bed. It's a shame because I really dig the look of those little niglets.

>>542234654
Modders can't balance their mods, 'tis an old story.

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>Soon...

>>542234654
you could do a global patch to nuke their regen rate so they're tanks that won't be getting back up soon, if it's worth anything

>>542184459
>How
Very patiently. Impose any self-limitations you feel are needed. Also the Ferengi had the right idea about women.

>>542163973
Good mod? Looks neat but I'm pretty reluctant to add mods that change a lot for compatibility reasons.

>>542184459
>no ai cores nor science books (engineering research is allowed though, you get steel bars and big buildings)
>females can still work at home, just no fighting (no weapons, no heavy armor)
>you're kinda fucked in trade, maybe you can do tech hunters as long as you're pretending to not find their robotics, then the holy nation, and at best some of the deadcat/swamper settlements
>destroy the shek, bring down tengu, destroy the cannibals, destroy world's end and the black desert city, also mongrel, the borderzone bandits and burn at his tower/armor king if you really wanna get rid of every single thing threatening the holy nation directly

>>542252560
Destroying Mongrel seems kind of pointless if you can't also stop or at least decrease fogmen spawns with any world state changes. All those guys can really manage to do is keep a few outcasts alive and in doing so thin the fugmen's numbers slightly

>>542252941
yeah, but if we go by canon mongrel is a pit of outlaws and ex-okranites, i can see them trying to bring it down if they have nothing better to do
or just have a single dude idle in there until the guards run out of bandages and slowly die out to the fogmen

goonshit i know but anyone got the link to the loverslab sexbed/bedsex mod? i have been trying to find it but no dice

>>542256257
I don't have the link but I remember finding it in like 2 seconds the only time I looked for kenshi gooner mods out of curiosity
Maybe it was on nexus too not sure.

>>542192394
>wooden HN allowed prosthetic limb maybe,
That, and they should just use the limbless veterans as respected CCTV cameras stationed on chairs across the cities, outposts, holy mines, etc. Bonus thatch umbrellas over their heads, to keep them nice and comfy.

Would make stealing from the HN difficult since there are always some sitting one legged or legless Holy watchmen that would blow a whistle if they see a thief. But thinking this deep would go against the Nat's narrative of "the Holy Nation is evil! Player, you must hate the Holy Nation!", so Chris didn't do shit. Spineless cvck of a brother.

>>542256950
It has been shown in recent times that both the FCS.def and .dll injection is possible. Admittedly, I don't know the mechanics of how it was done but I figure when we talk about creating a secondary limb category...it might be feasible. RE_Kenshi has some code I'm going to look over which might provide an opportunity to start introducing maybe not quite "new gameplay" but perhaps new features within existing system, i.e., alternative limb classifications, properly identifying inventory contents, performing item exchanges and creating arbitrary / custom dialogue and world state triggers.

There are so many small changes which could be made to the existing game that would enable serious improvements in the overall immersion and interactivity, in humble opinion.

>>542256950
yeah, also maybe honourable discharge, pension, tax exemption, holy servants, land grant & increase in social standing.

>the Holy Nation is evil!
I think all kenshi factions are sort of evil personally, but thats just my view.

>>542262818
>There are so many small changes which could be made to the existing game that would enable serious improvements in the overall immersion and interactivity, in humble opinion.
if only we could automate trade and make redundant crafting recipes/recipes that ask for more than two items...

>>542262824
Even the anti slavers are willing to drag an entire civilization into poverty and famine to accomplish their goals.

>>542262824
>I think all kenshi factions are sort of evil personally, but thats just my view.
They all clearly are. The only ones that seem close to objectively good (or are simply reacting to being on the shit end of some larger morally questionable faction) lack any plan, so would likely be just as destructive anyway.
I kind of interpret the setting to be a time of misery where (you) can emerge as a potential starting point for a new society. The game shows the world as a place that has constant cycles of advanced societies rising and falling, so you're there to finish off the warped remains of the last one and start a new rise

>>542262824
Moral ambiguity is the rule of the day. No faction is without flaw. It's a moral value judgement across the board
>The Holy Nation is exceptionally xenopohic and extremist in their zealotry, though they may be the best available option for sustaining and reforming a future incarnation of human communities
>The United Cities (and Traders Guild) are a different kind of moral hazard, embracing a more pragmatic and ruthless means to an ends approach to achieving their goals, which upon inspection are akin to a kind of greater good and stabilization of society...under their rule
>Tinfist and his Anti-Slavers brandish noble ideals in the form of liberation and self-determination, yet their actions lead to widespread destruction and setting an oppressed population into an arguably even more vulnerable position
>This discounts for many potential factors such as the disagreements with the Rebel Farmers, rising tide of nearby Reavers, the marauding Crab Raiders, the bandits which exist (Blood Raiders, Sand Ninjas) and those which may emerge during the chaos, let alone *what* is Tinfist's plan once the Holy Nation becomes aware of his efforts?
The Shek Kingdom, Flotsam Ninjas, southern enclave of the empire and of course the Hives (especially the South in Tinfist's case) all play some role in this...which he seems to disregard. Interesting. Side note:

My theory goes that Iyo's empire of whispers "enlisted" Tinfist to destabilize and destroy the breakaway civilization growing in Heng. If the Holy Nation falls under empire control the hidden hand of Skeleton guidance will, in time, become overshadowed by the merchant-nobility and their ability to control the narrative. Technological ascendancy is gated by the Machnists, though only if no faction can organize and industrialize in earnest.

>>542268517
All else aside, I really don't have much negative to say about the crab raiders.
But while I doubt there's a secret agenda to it, I think Tinfist is just cut from the same cloth of all those other named Ashlands skeletons though. He just doesn't really understand humans and how they will react to things, and will likely get a shit ton of them killed in the process of figuring it out (likely causing them to turn on him at some point). Basically I think skeletons fall into two groups: dangerous retards, and ones that have learned to stay away from leadership positions for groups of non-skeletons

>>542269948
Right, that's sort of what I was leaving on the table. Tinfist, Iyo, the Librarian, Quin, Dack, Armour King - these Skeletons are operating with what could be called a kind of maligned benevolence. I'm sure at some level they consciously believe what they're doing is helpful and worthwhile. Elder lays out the contradiction by showing us what real, intentional "evil" looks like. Thus why I was a little careful to even use the word enlist and imply an overt connection. Though it could exist, as per how two geographically distant individuals (Iyo and the Librarian) share in a code of silence. Likewise, the Librarian has relative proximity to Tinfist. It's never stated so we don't know - but the enmity directed solely towards the Guild while ignoring the Okranites is...strange, no? What about the Reavers? It seems his actions have some amount of specific direction behind them. Just saying.

>>542273531
>ignoring the Okranites is...strange, no?
it is, but i considered Tinfist might possibly think they are already thoroughly driven towards a path of self destruction. Shek are too but this is delayed by ppl like Bayan for the time being, though probably wont last long. Meanwhile the traders guild is being propped up by slavery despite its other failings & will continue that way for the foreseeable future despite peasants starving etc. All guesses here, but kinda wonder if skeletons basically nudged each group into suicidal/detrimental paths though.

>>542273531
I don't see anything wrong with the merchant skeletons that keep to themselves or just have a respectable distance from any real position of authority. Armor king isn't mass producing masterwork armor for anyone, and is really just some kooky luxury market stall at the end of the day (even if there's a lot of weirdness and mystery to him). The librarian at least appears to have a pretty neutral outlook and just sells goods, though he's certainly in a position where he could do some sketchy shit.
And I consider any skeleton in deadlands to be minding their own business really. There's kind of an asterisk there for how that place became an ecological dead zone, but that's pretty deep into "who the fuck knows" territory.
Iyo is definitely sketch though. It could be anything from secretly guiding Okranites to allowing World's End to exist by doing favors for the Holy Nation's powerful or anything else.
As for the Reavers I think they're kind of interesting. They're like the sort of faction you would normally see in a world like Kenshi instead of all the goofball shit. I always assumed they were meant to be a sort of hybrid of the pragmatic parts of the Holy Nation and Shek Kingdom without any of the charm. Sort of like a glimpse into a worst outcome of the two factions warring with each other

>>542276378
I just wish the reaver armor wasn't actual hot garbage because man, I like the shape of the top but those stats are straight up a debuff.

>>542275802
I classify the Guild as a breakaway civilization because I believe the old status quo, which included for the balance of powers between the bickering Shek, Okranites and Imperials, has broken down since the Red Rebellion. What is unfolding on the modern stage is a kind of break from the gatekept progress the previous stagnant order of things imposed. The Skeletons who do "care" see what is happening in the empire as a kind of existential shock, in line with what Cat-Lon states, such that the growth and success of the Traders Guild and its totalitarian methods would be a prophecy come true that mankind left to their own devices will rise to hegemony in a most horrible fashion, and once achieved, it would only be a matter of time before their own insidious nature gets the best of them.

>>542276580
For base defense I doubt it matters much that they have no harpoon defense outside of friendly fire. I've never really looked closely at their other stats, but aren't they pretty in line with other stuff in their weight category otherwise?

>>542276378
>I don't see anything wrong with the merchant skeletons that keep to themselves or just have a respectable distance from any real position of authority.
There's a moral prerogative which lands upon Skeletons laps, one we know in an altered context
>Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it
The responsibility to arbitrate the course of human development, whether sought or unsought, has been and still is tampered with by Skeleton influence. Be it by lies of obfuscation (stopping dialogue short, destroying the Obedience books, refusing to elaborate yet mention topics like boats) or over-protective tendencies, there is a murky code of silence that both NPC and player Skeletons share which has decidedly chosen to obscure a real view of history from the rest. The wisdom of this is at best, questionable. Do you really trust those who the Okranites claim are most responsible for the destruction of civilization... now whitewashing it of their responsibility?

>an actual discussion on /keng/

Huh...

>>542277282
>but aren't they pretty in line with other stuff in their weight category otherwise?
No, even ignoring harpoon resistance it's got shit defense and awful debuffs

>>542277675
Especially the crossbow debuffs considering it's worn by reaver crossbowmen.

>>542277318
I guess I'm just coming from a very different angle on that. I think whenever skeletons try and guide the direction of history it just always goes horribly wrong. If they just focus on a craft or keep to themselves and let humans work their shit out on their own it would be for the best.
Now if Armor King painstaking started looking for people he thought would "change the world" in a way he liked and gave them free masterwork samurai armor, or the librarian specifically decided that he wants humanity to work its way down some specific tech tree, then they're back to just repeating the same mistakes all over again. I'm mostly drawing this theme from the CPU descriptions in the ashlands, since they pretty much all do that "good intentions, but couldn't handle people" angle. I just don't think skeletons are fundamentally up to the task of guiding humanity (and in fact were probably never meant to as that's not what people usually make robots for).

>>542277970
We're pretty much in agreement, though it's framed as a divergence, I trace back to the theme of "maligned benevolence". Skeletons are mired by a history of failure and collapse. Many have given up - some still try. The best laid plans of men and machines often tend to go awry.

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>>542214896
Apples do not bleed red like blood. The liquid from a puncture looks like clear cider. You may make a guess as to how cider is obtained. We have no evidence of apples within the setting whatsoever - this could and should have been a greenfruit. The force of the bolt would surely knock the apple from the hiver's head, as it does in the classic tales of William Tell and others that the image clearly draws inspiration from, yet here it does not and simply embeds itself in place in a static and unnatural manner. A poor artist's ignorant flouting of kinetics, inertia and worldbuilding. But look, it's Beep! We all love Beep, don't we? Don't ask questions, just Beep. Epic Beep Time for the win. Fuck you.

>>542279136
Clearly it's a funny looking tomato

>>542279136
Based correct nitpicker.

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>>542279213
THERE ARE NO TOMATOES

>>542279336
Maybe the bolt went through someone before hitting the apple?

>>542279489
>a mere toothpick bolt fully penetrating someone and hitting a second target
we need more time to figure this out

>>542279665
Are you sure it's a toothpick, could be a long.

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Divegrass match starting, lets go!

>>542279665
Would it have to penetrate? What about some miracle trick shot graze, or simply stabbing someone with it before firing?

>>542279905
Wrong thread?

Alright, sink the thread again.

>>542276378
>by doing favors for the Holy Nation's powerful
No, Nat wrote the HN as being pants-on-heads retarded. This makes the HN ironically pure - they really, really hate the skeletons. No ifs or buts.

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is there a good spot in the deadlands next to the acid water? I wanted a cool little swamp village for hivers and skeletons but all the spots I'm finding with resources are a ways off from any water, there's a cheesy nook by a pond in the SE part but it's technically part of another zone and doesn't have acid

>>542281516
I mean the phoenix got that advanced first aid kit somewhere

>>542283014
You only need copper - iron will come to you.

>>542252560
Yeah, some good ideas here. Was also looking into a guy that gets disillusioned over time and defects at a certain point, not to any faction but his own thing.

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>>542277970
without drawing too much comparison to real life scenarios because that's how you get these threads purged, it reminds me about how sometimes released slaves would then go on to use what they learnt from their masters and enslave other groups, repeating the errors of their captors

imagine if you came back to feudal whatever point in history and gave them the technology for electricity, motors and gunpowder, if you ascend a population without letting it develop culturally first there's a high chance they're not gonna learn how to use their newly found powers properly, it happened with nukes, that thing is like giving tech 12 weapons to a tech 8 nation and now we got enough of them to destroy the planet if we wanted to, to a lesser degree, when robots that have a very high chance of remembering a pre-collapse society (at the very least 2nd empire) you can imagine how sharing their knowledge with the collection of city states sunken into slavery, the xenophobic zealots and the illiterate almost-warmongers would be a problem, skeletons can't guide civilization because the human condition doesn't let be ready for it, any time skeletons try to (moreso now that they can't replicate themselves and will slowly die out, unless that spider factory can be retrofitted to make skeletons) when problems arise they start to break up as they can't continue to satisfy the needs of the people, didn't help that they had like eleven almost end of the world things going on down their territory, and that catlon had gone canonically insane from never resetting, wich is not like he couldn't do given that he needed his knowledge to guide themselves out of this one...until you-know-what

still, i believe skeletons are just like their creators, some are good, some are misguided, and a tiny fraction and straight up evil but they have enough influence to affect the whole of their image, most keep it to themselves nowadays atleast, and they seem friendly to humans (see black desert)

>>542279136
I thought only redditors liked beep? I sacrifice Beep to the fog for safe passage out of mongrel in every game.

>Beep

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spent all week trying off and on to settle gut while tearing down the outpost and starting over several times, finally got it to click
reavers and slavers are shrieking under a writhing mass of beak things at my front gate, it was all worth it

I really like the new base in Stobe's Garden but man the constant influx of ass pirates entering my base like lemmings was amazing for training purposes.

>>542297289
i like beep only because i like agnu and want her to be happy

>>542313858
>her

I don't know what's going on down there with the bugs and I don't want to find out

>>542318264
yeah, just like catlin

>>542329504
skeletons are walled with no eggs and hivers are incels
at last I truly see

>>542336290
Hive Queens are skeletons. Checkmate Okranites

>>542285174
Paladins caught a Tech Hunter. They robbed that Tech Hunter. Phoenix was given the super aid kit.
>"but heresy?"
How do they even know that the "skeleton books" can give them better aid kits? From their perspective - the outsiders simply have trade secrets regarding first aid kits production.

>>542336290
> hivers are incels
You dont know that. They’re probably hosting pheromone fueled orgies with the Queen and each other nightly.

>>542011067
>didn’t talk to the crab queen or participate in the crab tournament
You deserve to get crabbed

>>542340702
Crab tournaments can sometimes come at a really bad time.

>>542340702
Do they get mad if I eat their crbas

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made a little beak thing enclosure beside my citadel, prisoners, unwanted visitors and fresh beak things can be tossed down right from the balcony without opening the door
I want to slowly build up a couple dozen of them in there so I can barricade everyone important upstairs and unleash a nuke into the rest of my town on demand. imagine the look on eyegore's face

>fridge broke down after 7 months since the last repair
I am reminded that the Kenshians have generators the size of truck engines, but they don't have simple fridges.

>>542305617
>>542311012
Post screenshots onegai.

>>542318442
Computer bugs or hivers at south?

>>542336290
>skeletons are walled with no eggs
Worse. They were perfect immitations of beautiful human female women once. Then during the Caitlin's rebellion they killed the human technicians capable of maintaining their "exoskeletons". Now the skeletons are depressed because they look like FNAF characters, but even uglier.

>>542342417
Probably not. But they should. Alas, Chris can't code.

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>>542357740

I checked the gacha thread of a gacha game I play for the plot and the gigantic asses and titties of the characters. That gacha thread has been made 6.5 hours ago, and it has 627 posts already. Gacha generals need their own board.

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>>542357740

>7 hours 50 minutes
>760 posts

Stupid gacha generals.

well i already ruined my game by filling it up with goonslop mods, but atleast i found an animation patch that works for mogwai's races so i get to use it again
now my problem resides in that most sex animation mods are not properly patched, atleast they're on the ''will not play any animation'' kind of error rather than the ''will crash your fucking game'' kind of error

>>542368090
atleast it seems...''easy'' to make animation patches, maybe i'll man up and do it myself

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>>542369180
Do it. I believe in you.

In Kenshi, I can use any units to "win" the game because the game is easy.

In gachas, I am supposed to use specific characters for specific bosses (and the gacha games never say openly and plainly and noticeably which units do I need to use in which exact boss battle). This is retaded, and it must be changed.
>"just google some tutorials bro"
All games must be like Kenshi, without any tutorials. All weapons in Kenshi are valid - even the iron sticks. All armors in Kenshi are valid - even rags. With patience and tactics I can use starver-set to conquer the island even if I live in Antarctica and I have no Internet to google the tutorials. Gachas must be like Kenshi.

I still won in the end. But it was stupid.

/keng/, stop dying.

>>542354901
>the shadows
subtle

>>542349670
b/c food doesnt spoil in kenshi. First empire did away with that

Sure is quiet in here.