SNAP editionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completion.info/Old: >>541779447
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I can feel that Wanderer is the way I'm going to beat this bitch cause the attack speed and the massive silk regen it gives you are too goodI've tried reaper, architect, beast, none were working as well as wanderer does and the funny part is this is my first time in the whole game using wanderer ever since I ditched it for reaper ages agoBut I should maybe go back and buy multibinder for better healing
>>542068341Embrace the Multibinder/Quickbind Wanderer experience. Smash the basic attack and occasionally parry flurries but mostly eat shit and take damage unnecessarily. Then jump up in the air and heal for 4 and get all the silk back within 5 seconds.Don't forget your magnetite dice so you can enable even more poor play due to its occasional un-crits which nullifies all damage.
fromdrones could be here
Courier quests could be here.
Tried to climb Mount Fay and I've reached a brick wall. It's simply too difficult and unforgiving. I feel wrong installing cheats to go past it but if I don't I'm just going to quit the game. I really like this game but this part is simply too hard. I'm locked out of the rest of the game because I'm not able to do frame-perfect platforming on a 20 second timer. It's fucking over
>>542069105That's what I've been doing but without the multibinder and quickbindBefore this I was using architect and saving all my tools to cheese her like a faggot in the last phase but I wasn't getting nearly enough silk for healing and I've reached the point where I don't even need to spam tools at her all the time, it's almost like I'm getting less shit at this fightClawline works wonders too except when she parries it
Any builds for the last portions of P5 in Hollow Knight? For the first portions I run str + shaman + quick slash but I feel super aggression isn't as effective against the harder bosses. In particular anything that makes Markoth less of a pain but doesn't suck for NKG would be nice.
>>542069429Anon I was mentally in the same place you are right now, but eventually I beat it. If it's any consolation it's only hard the first time cause once you get the double jump cloak it's much easier to climb plus you don't freeze to death anymoreAnd anyway sands of karak is worse :^)
>>542069631I can't disable the clawmaiden spawns without the double jump so I'm basically forced to do this repetitive shit over and over again. I'm not enjoying it at all and I guess if the rest of the game is this hard I might as well quit now because I won't enjoy it anyway.
>>542069803Mount Fay is probably among the 3 hardest platforming challenges in the game and strictly speaking one of the other two isn't mandatory to reach the end of the gameYou can do it anon
>>542069465Wanderers real strength is probably just getting in extra hits when openings present themselves compared to other crests. You can be a YOLO'ing retard or be defensive and still have good damage and silk gen.The extra mask from multibinder doesn't seem like much initially, but it essentially turns unequal exchanges into fair trades when fights are full of 2mask damage attacks. Quickbind is just there to help stop you from being punished or use openings more efficiently.
>>542070128desu I only ever heal by double jumping off the wall and out of her reach so I don't really need it to be a quick heal, the only thing that can damage me up there is the void fireballs she spawns if I don't time it correctly
>>542070029>Mount Fay is probably among the 3 hardest platforming challenges in the gameHow many are there? 4? Suface Climb, Cogworks Core, Mount Fay, Sands Karak(?)
>>542070128Quickbind is fantastic. When there is a heal window, you can get out, heal, and go back in to do some damage or reposition before next attack even starts.
>>542070889YeahI guess some people count abyss escape too since the rising magma adds a lot of pressure
Hey can I ask for help without spoilers?I have only two missing ingredients for the food guy: the nut and the pickled muckmeat.I haven't yet fought whoever the boss is of the Citadel.Do I need to unlock a double jump or something before I can get the last two ingredients? Or are they accessible right now, and I'm just dumb.I've searched all over the blasted wastes as well as the sinners road for the ingredients, but found nothing except for two spots that are too high up for me to currently reach via jumping.
>>542072391You can access those spots before ascending the citadel. You need an upgrade but you're able to acquire it right now.
>>542072391Go get double jump, yes. It'll be hard but worth it
Damn 40 tries on Lost Lace. Most of them i was extremely sleep deprived but still im glad lost lace was the strongest boss i faced. Ending was absolute cinema. Now time to 100% everything. Oh and my favourite boss was Carmelita
Man, I thought the craggler would have dropped more than a single organ.
Can I get a hint for this fucking flea?
>>542075830You need to come up from the bottom. The bottom right, not the bottom left.
>>542072541>>542072642Oh fuck, I thought I had scoured the map up till this point, but I guess I missed something big.
I went to grab the last skill i need where the fuck did i wander off to
>>542075830
About to start playing druk as fuck. Strapping in for a kino rage-inducing experience. Wish me luck bros. Faggot Heart, and then Crusty Kang.
>>542080331faggot heart took me 7 times to beat on my first playthrough it was hard to figure out their tempo for some reason. The runbacks were NOT enjoyable
>>542080501I am anything if not persistent. I may end up passing out before I beat them though, unless I lock in in a druk trance.
>>542079138You're close. Leave the platforming area, and head back to where the map is marked. you'll find the arm of Grand Mother Silk on top of a big rock.
>>542079138Make sure you open the shortcut so you don't have to do it again.
>>542080940why is something more up there? i found a memento and thats it (journal entry too i guess)
>>542081295Mr Mushroom quest later
>>542087075baby Hornet?
>doing the speedrunner achievement>actually got the red quilllol
>>542093524i thought his antenna were a poorly sized speech bubble in the second panel
worst enemy in the game so far
Can you "avoid" the Groal fight?I've spent a good chunk of the night attempting it and it's just putting me in a bad mood. The fucking maggots might be one of the most obnoxious mechanics ever put in a game.
>>542095183you can, look it up and do it right now before it gets patched next update
>>542092014>not getting the purple quillBRICKED
I'm getting the snail items for what I assume is act 3, but I also have a tiny screaming baby. I forget where the guy who won't open his door is and I don't want to lock myself out of any endings or content, could anyone vaguely tell me what I should or shouldn't do before completing the thing for act 3?
>got to Abs Rad final phase>got pushed into the abyss after a bad teleportWhat sucks the most isn't even dying to that it's having to do the whole fucking thing over again.
> didn't mark areas of interest that I need x power for when I found them in HK> having to reexplore areas to find breakable floors etc
>>542100035There's an online map that shows all shortcuts and what abilities are needed for each with icons so you can find all of them. Also as someone who was in your position not too long ago, there aren't that many breakable floors and most of them don't have much of interest.
>>542099565>a tiny screaming babyBefore you start Act 3, go to Shellwood and talk to greywood. Then fight GMSThen find the doctor in Greymoor
>>542100035the worst part is that you aren't sure if you need a skill for that area, or what the skill might possibly be, and it's not always obvious so the only way to 100% get all of them is to play the entire game again :)
>>542100181Yeah but the online maps show the whole map right? I don't want to see it yet, still going through my first play through
>See a flash of the shade creature in the act 3 ending for silksongso embrace the void / delicate flower are the canon endings? That's retardedwhat happens to the hollow knight then
>>542100365GMS wasn't terrible but I don't want to fight her again... but alright, thank you. Also any vague pointers about where to find the witch and shaman crests? I still haven't found them.
>>542100934Hes Knight not the Hollow Knight
>>542100365>>542101165Wait, the fight doesn't get harder because of this, does it?
>>542101165You're going to fight her about 2 more times. One after you talk to greyroot and another to get into Act 3>Also any vague pointers about where to find the witch and shaman crests?You're on the right track for one of them, and don't worry about the other for now
>>542101332>the fight doesn't get harder because of this, does it?That's entirely dependent on you. But yes
>>542101231Yeahyou can see the hollow knight dude meet hornet at the end of those endingsnot knight, hollow knight. cured after radiance is gone.
>>542101231He means THK, not the Ghost
>>542101351Frick>>542101445FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And this is just for an optional ending with zero rewards I could have just gotten locked out of if I crawled into act 3??
>>542100934>That's retardedWhat, were you hoping that they'd reveal that Silksong was all a dream and that the true ending is Sealed Siblings?>what happens to the hollow knight thenDeliberately ambiguous.
>>542101649>And this is just for an optional ending with zero rewards I could have just gotten locked out of if I crawled into act 3??Yes. there's literally no way to get it once you go into Act 3. You'll understand later
>>542101730I am so sad
>>542101791There there
>>542067907>find the first sinner at the end of act 2>easy as shit retread of weaver>beat it first time>look online>"He's so FAIR". "He's so WELL DESIGNED" "They went ALL OUT for this one"Do people just glaze any easy humanoid boss
>>542102102>any easy humanoid bossfirst sinner is like the only boss in the game that has a reasonable amount of HP and his attacks aren't bullshit because you've already beat widow and can recognize 90% of them
>>542102430They reskinned a great boss, made his moveset easier, chucked more hp onto him and stuck him at the end of act 2 and people seem to act like he's superb design and not a victory lap.
>>542101897Thank you...
>>542102102So are you retarded or something?
>>542093524This comic lies. He wasn’t grateful at all for being freed from jail. He was a smugly indifferent green dick.>you are what you eat
>>542101897Radiant Shakra is going to make people rage harder than Markoth ever did.
>>542101351>>542101445>>542101897Ok I got the thing, neat moveset but I can't equip any of the things that the entire game kept teaching me to actually useSo bizarre
>>542102102First Sinner is a good boss though
>>542102102>>542102874Are you trolling or do you actually think First Sinner, a member of an entirely female race wearing a dress, is a dude?
>STOP MISGENDERING THE BUGS
>>542107720>a member of an entirely female race wearing a dressWearing a dress that they stitched up the moment they got free. I swear at least a third of her fans are because of her doing that.
>>542100934Dream No More is just as canon, dont let any P5 slurpers tell you otherwise.
>>542107863She wanted to be comfy and look good after hundreds of years being locked up, I can respect it.
>>542107720I wasn't thinking about the sinner's pronouns too hard while typing considering its a bug but yes, they are very clearly female.>>542107581It's a good fight on the basis of being reskinned weaver alone. but its hard for me not to be disappointed rolling through it on first try and even harder not to rag on it when most of the positive praise for the boss comes down to it being easier than other bosses for the point you fight it.
>>542110234and yes before you get on my case I mean widow when I say reskinned weaver
>>542110234>it being easier than other bosses for the point you fight it.What act 2 bosses do you think are harder than First Sinner?
>>542110514Beastfly 2, trobbio, lugosi, Groal, raging conchfly, lace, father of the flame (lmao). Can't comment on Shakra and Garmond as i've been locked out from them.Honestly, the only boss that stands out as easier to me is GMS
>>542111114Thats a crazy take but different strokes for different folks I guess, half of those are super easy fights.
>>542108047A weaver weaving a perfect dress in an instant is such a good power flex.
>>542111656Yeah its a good power move to pull immediately after your ancient chains are unbound. Kind of crazy to imagine GMS had a whole army of these battle mages at her disposal. No wonder she conquered all of Pharloom.
>>542068341Hunter is better
>>542095183Groal is unnecessary for a normal Act 2 ending.
>>542111279The only ones who i'd consider actively difficult were beastfly 2 and groal and that's because I rolled into them with only the act 1 pale oil which matters a lot for their fights. Other bosses just by default had at least a single death but i'm not out here calling lugosi or father of the flame difficult.
>>542067907Did any of you manage to stay spoiler-free during the first few days?
>>542113372I did until the game started feeling like utter fucking bullshit
>>542113372I got the abyss spoiled but I didnt believe it was real so it worked out.
>>542113372It was barely five hours after Silksong had come out, and I opened youtube and one of the very first things I saw was that somebody already uploaded the true ending cutscene with a spoiler heavy title and thumbnail in all caps.
Imagine Silksong DLC... but it's Hollow Knight Act 2, Embrace The Void's continuation where Hallownest is fucked up by the void.
>>542113216>were beastfly 2Just don't accept that quest before you have two pale oil nail upgrades. It's easier than Act 1 Beastifly 1 with Reaper.
>>542113835Its completely fine with just one upgrade once you realize threadstorm instakills the adds.
>>542113372I was spoiled on the existence of act 3, as well as the void and the Knight/Shade Lord returning on day 2. Don't know how people got through the game that fucking fast, or if they just dug through the files or something.
>>542113936>as well as the voidLiterally the trailer shows it. I dunno how can you be unaware of it.>>542113372I was spoiled pretty quickly, but during first few days (Act 1) I stayed pretty spoiler-less.
>>542113883>threadstormI heard the rumor that they're gonna nerf it. Is it true? I'm glad I played on Release version/First Patch. Current version sounds like it sucks ass.
>>542069429I'd bet my left testicle you didn't play hollow knight if this platforming is filtering you. Clearly this game isn't for you. You clearly don't like the game either. Just because your friends like it doesn't mean you have to, tranny.
>>542114237Its already nerfed in the public beta and still strong so its not really an issue. The game is better than it was at launch purely for the environmental damage nerf, improved economy and fixed drop rates.
>>542113883I had threadstorm but everything went to shit whet he'd summon two adds at the same time on opposite ends of the screen so i wouldn't have enough silk to send them to mozambique. Bilewater with one pale oil is just insufferable as a whole.
>>542113372I was spoiled on the act 3 ending like 2 hours after Silksong came out, but other than that, everything else was spoiler-free.
>>542114379Come on, we all felt this way one way or another while playing this game. Those feelings are temporary.
>>542114405>environmental damage nerf, improved economy and fixed drop ratesThat was all the first patch. It's all downhill from there
>>542115680I never felt that way during this game, not once. Never had the inkling to cheat. I've had instances where I said "this will take a while, so I'm going to schedule it for when I have more time". I enjoy this game so much I'm going for 100% achievements. I'm on act 1 of my steel soul run right now. I genuinely love this game. If you're saying you enjoy a game while cheating to do a task that you cannot beat on your own, you don't enjoy the game. This isn't even that hard of a part of the game. He's clearly a filthy casual who never played HK, picked up SS because it's popular and is a whiny bitch. And because enough faggots like him exist, devs opted to nerf easy bosses.
>>542074054Don't forget to return and slaughter his kids too.
>>542116246I meant the rage and complains. I never felt the need for cheats (I did want a mod that removes HUD/vignette, but that's for unrelated plans).But I cheated even in multiplier games 10 years ago (it was hilarious, ngl), so I can't exactly judge him.
>>542116550Multiplayer game cheating is different, because your enjoyment comes from trolling others. Cheating in a single player game and claiming you enjoy it just doesn't make sense.
>They did not even bother to generate Hornet properly
>>542068341>run to the other side of the room to avoid attack>she teleports right in front of you>take 2 damage
FlopsongBasedsilkForgottensongSilkbomb
>>542121685Why do you care about damage? Are you trying to beat her hitless?
>>542122297because i take 2 damage to RNG bullshit
>>542117880Even if it's an obvious scam, who the fuck still buys game guide books in the Year of our Lord 2000 + 25? Wikis made them obsolete.
>>542124539I dunno about game guides, but a physical artbook or "the making of" would be very nice.
first few attempts at LL>WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GARBAGE FIGHT WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM THIS IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE FUCK YOUcurrent attempts at LL (even tho still dying)>HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE BEST BOSSFIGHT MY DICK IS SO HARD GIVE ME MOREis this what gitting gud feels like?
>>542121685Don't run around like a headless chicken.
Started a new HK playthrough and going through Crossroads already felt more soulful. Exploring and accidentally stumbling upon either Gruz Mother or False Knight feels much better than being railroaded into Moss Mother.
>>542125050No, it's Stockholm Syndrome.
>>542127484That's possible tooI'm not saying the fight isn't bullshit because some parts of it definitely are but at least now I'm not getting actually angry every time I die
>>542127335it's crazy how they clearly put so much work into ss and yet so many things feel like a step backward, the game is completely linear until the end of act 1 pretty much
>>542128146Silksong is a massively bigger game, if they afforded players the same non linear freedom of exploration at the beginning 90% of people would get lost and bitch on reddit about how they have no idea where to go
>>542128672I'm pretty sure this still happened, despite their attempts to railroad the beginning
Just got the "Made Someone Mad For Jokingly Commenting On How Similar Hornet Is To The Pale King" award.
>>542129319wait pale king is her father?
>first game is a clear copy of Souls>fandom is an amalgamation of the worst aspects of the Souls fandomIt's a sight to behold.
>>542127484Stockholm syndrome doesn't mean what you think it means.
>bell projectile bounces on a cogfly back to the guy and kills himcogflies are your best buddies
>>542129319why would someone get mad over that did they gloss over the dialogue where she straight up says she realized his plan wasn't that bad because they had no better options?
>every single crest in the game has two (or more) blue tool slots >except one >blue tools are the most powerful, and most capable of changing your play style by making new strategies viable>blue tools are fun to find and are a good reward for exploration >except if you use this one crest, inexplicably They must've found some oppressive balancing issues regarding bind speed, else I can't understand the reason why this crest has so few tool slots, with no real upside.
>>542129491souls and metroidvania fandom
>>542129596>with no real upside??
>>542129491>no character creation>no RPG leveling and stats>a single weapon, no equippable armors>there is an actual story and the game tells it to you>combat not designed around rolling or parrying>heavy on platformingJust because you lose your cash on death doesn't mean it's a soulslike, anon
>>542129589
>>542129706ah, all you had to say was>tumblrstill, hilariously poor levels of reading comprehension
>>542129703soulslike basically means the game has corpse runback mechanic in today's zeitgeist
>>542129414Did you not read through the game? Widow explicitly states she's spawn of Weaver and Wyrm. Hornet herself explains it in the first game after killing Herrah.
>>542129414Play the first game.
>>542129703>>there is an actual story and the game tells it to youLet's not pretend the first game is much different from Dark Souls 1 in that aspect
>>542129682What's the upside from being tool-less? Every other crest has an upside apart from having more blue slots. What makes beast crest worth the huge drawback that is absent in say, wanderer or architect?
Weaver queen > sister of the void
>>542129703>combat not designed around rolling or parryingit absolutely is if you think of dash as hk's equivalent of rolling. parrying is rare but becomes relevant for lategame bosses like nkg.
reminder that silksong has over triple the players within a month than hk ever had. this means only 1 in 3 silksong players has played through hk. let that sink in, for the next time some fuckwit complains about the difficulty, doesn't understand basic lore, and calls it a soulslike
>>542130227Even in Silksong how many people reach GMS without understanding what fuck is her deal?
>>542130396I played hk and did all those things for ss
>>542130508post playtime in hk, playtime in ss and # achievements in both
>>542130396>reminder that silksong has over triple the players within a month than hk ever had.?? where are you getting this statistic? HK sold 15 million copies and silksong has sold 6 million so far.
>>542130392DS rolling is all about invulnerability frames. In HK until you get shade dash and in SS dashing is more of a spacing tool. And even with shade dash avoiding enemy attacks is more about good positioning instead of timing your invincibility button right
>>542130618be sure to subtract the players who purchased hollow knight within a month of silksong's release (i.e. since august)
>>542130618also, don't forget this. you see that uptick of hk players?https://steamdb.info/charts/?compare=367520,1030300
>>542129703You are a disingenuous little fucker or outright blind if you cannot see the extremely clear parallels between HK and Souls. For fuck's sake anon, you find a Havel bug early on and the HK/PV is literally your standard final Souls boss.>they story is told to youIn pieces, over conversations with multiple NPCs and from contextual clues, exactly like in Souls.
i'll be real with you anons I did not understand ss or hk story by playing the game alone, I watched lore videos after playing
>>542131404forgat image
>>542129703>>there is an actual story and the game tells it to youTo be fair, in the original HK "an actual story" only starts many-many hours into the game. Until then people might be fooled and think it's environmental storytelling only.
Show me some bare feets then
>>542131654do you realize that those are players who have the game open at the same time? this is only important for online games basically
>>542132898anon, go to the store page on steam for hollow knight. read the first two reviews you see. hopefully that clears things up.
>>542131654god damn these "people" just cannot miss the latest trend huh
The flea juggling minigame is a perfect example of why I don't like Silksong very much. It could have just been a fun little juggling minigame. It could have just been some fun side thing to get extra rosaries or something.Nope. It's a hell-nightmare guantlet with RNG galore, preventing you from getting the max damage for your nail. Just like the rest of the game. How many points do I need to get the pale oil anyway?
>>542132898>have the game open at the same time?Are you retarded? Those are obviously two screenshots of the two game statistics independently.
>>542133172If only there were a scoreboard to check, literally a two second run away in fleatopia. Also, stop jumping you retard. Once again these are the MFs whining about this game lmao
>>542132981check the owner estimations in the link you posted
>>542132032Even many hours in the game the most story there is is an NPC telling you that ~~Lord Gwyn~~The Pale King sealed ~~darkness~~ the infection to stave off the end of his kingdom, but that seal is coming undone, so you have to defeat ~~the old lords~~ the dreamers to reach the ~~Kiln of the first flame~~ Black Egg , defeat the previous guardian and sacrifice yourself to become the new seal.
>>542133581And now I look like an idiot because I thought you could do strikethrough text on 4chan
only took about a dozen tries
Is the second Savage Beastfly fight i.e the Far Fields lava one that's a quest, only triggerable if you've done the first Savage Beastfly?Reason I ask is that I can't understand the people who complain about struggling with Savage Beastfly 2.0. It's the same boss. It's... the same. If you learned to beat the first one, you already know how to beat the second one. I'm wondering if these people chose not to do Beastfly 1.0 and the quest was their first exposure to it. That's the only explanation I've been able to come up with.
the problem with TC is they dont understand the difference between hard and punishing and why one is enjoyable and the other isnt
>>542134016I enjoyed all of silksong. It was punishing, not hard. Not a single boss felt unfair.
>>542134002I beat them in order and yes I complained about both
I struggled a lot at the beginning but somewhere in the middle of Act 2 between Groal and First Sinner something clicked and until now (I am doing the three hearts quest) everything has been enjoyable and a lot easier
>>542134086>It was punishing, not hardthis is exactly what it makes it antifun
>>542134305so what you're saying is you're bad at the game
>>542133172>RNG galorei can consistently get to the point of juggling 4 fleas at once and didn't have to crutch on shaman. the real rng galore is dodge.
>>542134627you have no inner monologue
>>542134002Beastfly 2 is even easier. Not only you have more upgrades, but also the adds are way simpler.
>>542134824punishing = you fucked up and were punished for your mistakehard = playing against unfair oddsboth games are punishing, not hard
>>542134305Then why did I find it fun?
>>542136501That's not really how most people use these words
>difficulty enjoyer (SS)vs>comfy enjoyer (HK)
>>542137532yes, most people are retarded. those are the only definitions
>>542137754When I played HK I wasn't a difficulty enjoyer: I remember that I cheesed Nosk and probably some other bosses too. I didn't do PoP at the time (though did many years later) and I didn't bother with any bindings in Godhome.But then with SS I enjoyed all the difficulties. I enjoyed trying to get a hang of the janky diagonal pogo in Hunter's March. I enjoyed dying to bosses, learning and eventually dominating them rather than squeaking through. I think I wanted to get the most out of the game. My completion time was like 82 or 83 hours, took my time.
>>542138245>My completion time was like 82 or 83 hoursGame time or steam time? My save file says 70 hours but steam says 91
>>542138114Being a contrarian is not a sign of intelligence
>>542138597Game time. I play on Switch Lite so that's all I have to go off of. I don't really play a lot of games.
Welp, I just finished basically all the side content, and I'm ready to face the real final boss. About 45 hours in and... I'm not actually sure how much of this game I even enjoyed. I adore the first one to high heaven and have fun with it the entire way through, but Silksong? I'm not sure when it started, but I just realized I've been just forcing my way through it simply so I can say I finished it. I think it might have been act 3 in general that burnt me out. Not sure.
>>542140162Nobody is forcing you to play.
>>542140276Anon, your reading comprehension just flew over your head. I said -I'M- forcing myself.
Does oil really make a blade sharper? Also am I stupid, or is it kinda hard to tell what Plinney is doing every time you upgrade your nail? What's with the little hair he flicks off?
FINALLYAnd unironically it wasn't even that hard after so many deaths lmaoFunny that the killing blow should be a clawline hit, clawline is based as fuck in this fightI think I'm gonna install some mod that lets me rematch bosses now
>>542140162While I was playing it, I was reading all these comments from people saying it becomes shit after you get into Act 3, they weren't enjoying it etc and I thought "nah that won't be me haha I'm having too much fun playing Acts 1 and 2!". But then when I got there, I felt it too.It's not to say that there weren't moments in Act 3 that I enjoyed. I liked Coral Tower, Karmelita, Sister of the Void stuff. But whereas 1 & 2 felt cohesive and full of momentum, Act 3 felt a bit tacked on and disjointed. It's little discrete snippets that don't feel particularly earned or joined up. It's hard to describe. But I think the fact that so many people have an off feeling about Act 3 compared to the first two lends credence to the idea that it's not imagined, somehow many people are coming to the same conclusion on their own.
>>542141165Oil protects a sword from rust, corrosion and in general keep it sharper longer. Plinney is cleaning the blade, sharpening it and applying proper care so that it cuts better but more importantly it keeps cutting even after being used a few times and being drenched in blood and ichor. The little hair is more to show how he is being obsessively precise in doing that, as he manually remove even a single hair being left on the blade.
good god Unravelled without 3 needle upgrades/double jump is a complete pain in the ass, I'm findingAlso without more tools. I whiped the floor with him on my first playthrough.
>>542141462I like the feeling of dread and how every NPC goes full doomer in act 3, it's cool seeing their different reactions to the impending end of the worldI don't like that there's only 2 new areas and both of them feel very half assed like they were intended to be much bigger and with more things to do in them
>>542141165It shows him honing the blade. Also pale oil is some special stuff, almost magical
Decided to watch playthroughs of Silksong since I got every achievement now, and there's a surprising amount of people who only attack through pogoing and no other way, no wonder the Wanderer's crest is the most popular crest by far.
>>542142032Reaper is better for pogoing tho
>>542142068so for steelsoul 100% complition you're basically just savescamming over and over again if the fight doesnt go your way right? Doesnt that kinda defeat the purpose?
>>542142293If you suck at the game but you want the cheevo, you do thatI don't care about cheevos and I know I will never be good enough to do steel soul the legit way so I won't even bother
>>542142032I mean, it was the same for OG HK aswell. Hell, also look at Shovel Knight. If you add pogoing to a game, there's a 90% chance a large chunk of players are going to just spam pogos as their default and sometimes only method of attacking.
>>542141165It’s pale being oil. Probably soaks right in and does magic stuff. I guess it lets a blade be ground down to a narrow thickness and razor edge that would normally make steel weak.
>>542142431there is no other way to do it. I dont believe there is a single holder of steelsoul 100% that didnt use savescam. You only need to mess up once and its over
>>542141729>I don't like that there's only 2 new areas and both of them feel very half assed This is my biggest gripe as well and what I feel is the problem with a lack of cohesion. In terms of whole new areas there's Coral Tower and Verdania, both of which are memory-only i.e just floating there in the ether of someone's memory. Every location in Act 3 feels tacked on whereas everywhere you discover in the first two acts feels like a small part of a larger interconnected picture.
AAAAAHHHH TROBBIO YOU'RE A COOL BOSS BUT PLEASE STOP FUCKING FLASHING MY EYES
>>542142575There are people that have done no hit runs of all the souls game. I agree that a lot of people are savescumming but not a single one being legit is reaching a lot
I don't doubt true Steel Soul runs exist, the autism runs deep. Problem is that the achievement is worthless if you're playing on a platform where you can savescum. Most people would rightly assume it wasn't a genuine ruin.
>>542142575You underestimate how autistically determined some people can be, especially the neets who have nothing to do with their lives but play a single game 15 hours a day every day
>>542142293The 30 hour time requirement will filter those people if they're not good and abusing the mechanic.
>>542141395Now that I've finished the game my top 5 bossfights in no particular order>phantom>widow>first sinner>LL>last judgeHopefully the next game won't take another 7 years
>45 minutes for HH, last melody, Lace and GMSUhh, I don't think I can make it.
I wish at least the orgasming of GMS would stop after you beat lost lace and 100% the game. Its distracting my flea games
>>542113372Youtube spoiled me on the true ending when I wasn't even looking for silksong stuff. Fucking shit ass youtubers literally just title, thumbnail, here's massive spoilers
>>542105681>So bizarreYeah. You're basically cursedThat's why i said GMS will be harder now. You have no items and no heals. good luck>>542113372The only think I got "spoiled" on (i asked really) was how to get into Act 3 in the first place
>>542129596The weirdest part about Beast is that it's one of the few crests where it would benefit GREATLY with blues considering its playstyle
>>542133883>Black and whiteAAAAAA HORNET PLEASE COME TO THE VOID AAAAAA
Why did this spawn in the ground?
>>542148241did you perhaps deactivate the flying KKKbugs?
>>542148241>>542148528oh youre not in the gauntlet nm i dont even know what youre talkinga bout
>>542140162>I'm not sure when it started, but I just realized I've been just forcing my way through it simply so I can say I finished it.Was at Last Judge for me. I got 100% completion, but essentially 0 drive to touch this game again.
>>542142032I beat LL throught wanderer pogo-ing.
>improve dumb shard economy>all contact damage is 1 (except bosses whose only moves are slamming their fat asses into you)>make runbacks shorter (includes respawning you inside memories when you die to a memory boss)>improve broken hitboxes like the unraveled's ass or lost lace's riposte combothere, do that and 95% of people bitching about this game will be appeased
>>542142032I defeated LL with Hunter's diagonal pogo
>>542129706>I don't think he was sad and tortured about it eitherWasn't his throne room so soaked in regrets it practically looked like he'd summoned the Abyss there? This person is an idiot.
>>542149760if you got 100% completion then you must have gotten somewhat good enough to enjoy the game. Unless you abused tools to the end or something
>>542140162>>542149760>I hate this but I will keep playing it just so I can say how much I didn't enjoy itYou're both fucking retards. If I play a game and I don't like it I simply stop playing it. Nobody cares whether you finish a game or not, there's no good reason to force yourself to do something you don't want to do.
>>542149967Anon he's a white figure of authority. There is no hoop certain people wouldn't jump through to try to present him as Satan".
>>542141165>Does oil really make a blade sharper?After what the pale ore did for the nail in the previous game I assume that pale stuff is basically magic when it comes to maintaining swords.
Is there a wat to get a shortcut up there, I'm tired of the runback to the bilewater boss
>>542150036>then you must have gotten somewhat good enough to enjoy the game.No? There was two or three times I wanted to quit, but peer pressure, pride, and sunken cost pushed me.>Unless you abused tools to the end or somethingI abused tools only on Groal and Unraveled.>>542150085You're the dumb one. If it was as simple as "don't play a game you don't like" we wouldn't be talking about this. It's deeper than that, and it seems you can't see that.
>>542150481There is, yeah. Beat the boss.Alternatively, there's a "cheat" to get around it, but it'll be patched next update. You can use that electric tool to open the P.Duct's side that connects there.
>>542150526>I wanted to quit, but peer pressure, pride, and sunken cost pushed meYep, retard. Big retard.
>>542150481Beat the boss
>>542149930Same. Now I'm on steel soul using wanderer and the game is like easy mode.
>>542150481The runback is intended to generate discussion
>>542149898>broken hitboxes like... lost lace's riposte combothis is the first thing I've genuinely felt needs fixing. it seems like a coinflip whether I can get away or if I'll get sucked backwards into the hitboxshe also probably shouldn't be able to pull it out with 0 windup frames
>>542149898>>542151836Is there a video of this? I fought LL, but I don't think I noticed her riposte sucking me in, if I was clear of it.
>>542152174https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/1nvns88/final_boss_hitboxes_are_magnetized/It doesn't only happen when you touch Lace, it also happens sometimes when you dash away from but you don't escape the hitbox even though visually it looks like you're out of it
>>542152551I see. Thanks. Wonder if it's a bug.
>>542151836>>542152174>>542152551I took it to be an intentional decision representing LL as the final, hardest, boss in the game. It's intended to be an actual parry / riposte from a skilled fencer opponent. You have to be aware that if you fight her in a certain way then you're inviting her parry and she has a good chance of catching you. If you respect her ability to do this you can beat her without ever being parried. But if you stand directly in front of her swinging for the best then she'll punish it.
What the actual fuck?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8J3-wk4GOo
>>542152976Getting sucked into her attack animationbecause you gently caressed the top of her hat after a dash is retarded and undefendable and if they did it on purpose they're fucking mongoloids.
bilewater... was okay
>>542153423I didn't have a super hard time in it cause I did other areas first so by the time I went to bilewater I had double jump and plenty of health
Lace sucked us off
>>542153032I'm more interested in the noclip possibilities.
>>542153732GIWIWH (God I Wish I Was hornet)
>>542153806There's a noclip modWell it's an invinicibility mdo that includes a noclip toggle
>>542152551The same happens on Widow with her running slash. If you jump too late and don't clear the attack hitbox in time, you will be pulled down into it. So it's probably working as intended. They should just match visuals to actual range better.
>>542155369Well either fix the hitbox or adapt the visuals to it, but having that disagreement between what the screen shows you and what the game does is just bad gamedev
>>542154306Slut
I've heard a bunch of people say SS is harder than HK, but is it true and if so how much harder is it? How do SS bosses compare to stuff like Grimm or PV?
>>542155912Y'know how near the end of HK where things felt harder than early game HK?That's pretty much the difficulty of SS from the start
>>542155912Hornet can move a lot faster so most of the bosses are also faster. Many of them also spawn adds, or have environmental hazards, plus there are many 2 mask damage moves. There is no single platforming challenge on the level of Path of Pain or even basic White Palace, but overall the platforming demands much more from you than in HK especially the challenges on a timer.On the other hand you also have a ton more options for dealing with fights, in the form of crests with different moves and abilities, and a bunch of offensive tools some of which can entirely trivialize many bossfights if you abuse them
>>542152976>You have to be aware that if you fight her in a certain way then you're inviting her parry and she has a good chance of catching you.I don't think that applies to the video that was posted.>If you respect her ability to do this you can beat her without ever being parried. But if you stand directly in front of her swinging for the best then she'll punish it.I don't think I agree to this. Her riposte is so easy to dodge by just jumping up (>>541880017 >>541880104), that I sometimes trigger it on purpose just to get free hits in.
>>542155912>but is it true and if so how much harder is it? How do SS bosses compare to stuff like Grimm or PV?It's been a long time since I last played hk, I think the endgame bosses compare to grimm in difficulty, basically, I don't think it was much harder than hk, but it is designed to have you die more often, the 2 mask damage thing translates into playing hk as if you had only 3 lives all the time, even with upgrades, there are "gotcha" streamer moments, and there are runbacks to bosses that test your patience way more than hk did, so at times it feels like a test of endurance rather than a more difficult game. Supposedly the spike in difficulty was thought around hornet having better heal but I disagree , in practice, knight's heal was better. hornet does have better mobility but you unlock her full kit like 2/3rds into the game, it feels like so many design choices are against themselves, like the game gives you tools to have fun but gates them with a farmable currency for example, there is a lot of potential for fun thwarted by antifun design choices in the name of difficulty just for the sake of making it more punishing than hk for no reason other than it being a sequel. that's my take
>>542152551that's much worse than what was happening to me, I always dashed away because any parry could be the aerial version and sometimes got pulled backwards. I was always able to pogo her if I managed to get behind her grounded attack thoughanyway all I had to do was complain and it was like the frames slowed down, it stopped being an issue
>>542156157Like around what part? The dream variants of bosses? The non-linear progression makes it hard, and HK doesn't have a very drastic sense of progression after you get dash and cs.>>542156529Would it be accurate to say SS is to HK what DS3 was to DS1?
>>542158371I like your take.
terrible boss designed to waste as much of your time as possiblefaggot takes minimum 3 minutes in pantheon 5
>>542160071this but unironically
>>542158553>Would it be accurate to say SS is to HK what DS3 was to DS1?Could make sense yeah
>>542141593>as he manually remove even a single hair being left on the blade.What the fuck? That's not what he's doing. He's shaving off a leg hair to test it's sharpness. Have you never tested a blade's sharpness by scraping the hair off your arm?
>>542162739Rewatch the cutscene anon
TRBB
>>542164379I never noticed the seats in the foreground
Cockwork dancers is a pretty boring fightI dont get why everyone ranks them so high
>>542158850Sucks that Hornet literally dismantled every single person that could grant their respective areas some measure of stability.Bilewater? Fucked forever. Ant areas? Leaderless. Hornet kills everyone here.Every single guy worth a fuck is eradicated.
>>542166230*Wrong reply
>>542166230Hallownest is in a better state at this point, she should just go home
>>542166230I feel like killing the vengeance driven leader of Bilewater is a net gain for Pharloom
Bilewater arena fucking sucks balls holy shit
>>542168971if its your first playthrough i would highely advise to embrace the water and explore
>>542168971Motherfucker, these adds are hard to hit
>>542169409i can give you a noob friendly tip for the ones that rain down spears. If you have clawgrip you can chill on theopposite direction of the top left of your screen and spam attack their way. They basically become silkfarm
>>542169629I'm jobbing on those arrow thing that explodes and the spear guy's collision damage
>>542169873for the little arrow dude i would say learn to pogo them from their spawn. They have very simplistic patterns and they cant target up
>>542147138I hate it, it's not a difficult fight but I hate it>can't really see the pins when they're hidden under rubble>sometimes the mega silk attack's second wave will spawn directly where you are with no escape>learned I could pogo bounce on her in phase one>also learned I could knock her pins out of the way and fuck myself over because I'll still instinctively jump to where the safe area used to be
>>542169409Motherfucker this bosses summons adds too?
>>542170680they go away
>>542170371That's why I said it really depends on you. the fight itself isn't too hard. But you pretty much cannot make any mistakes because no heals and you cannot rely on items and toolsIt's kind of a skill check which can be frustrating. Trust me, i missed out on that ending so i know how you feelThere there. At least you're learning
>>542116150Fixed drops is the upcoming patch in public beta.
>>542167017He's the one guy protecting bilewater. Now he's dead. Like every other authority in the entire setting. Guys like Gurr could've been spared.
>>542171340Gurr was a serial killer
>>542130396People called HK a soulslike and it was dumb back then too.
>>542170792I think I got all the fleas right before, I should have gone back and did the fun minigames to at least increase my damage output. I didn't know it'd be hard like this, I assumed it would just make her moveset angrier or something.>skill check but it's for an optional endingI just want hugs and a good lie-down
>>542171716My only suggestion is trying to get the flea minigame for the damage if you haven't already upgraded your nail the first few times (nail master, rasher courier, and the upgrade in the vaults) but even then yeah...>skill check but it's for an optional endingThere there. You don't have to get the optional ending. It's just unfortunately you can only get it in Act 2 so there's really no other way. But if it's too much, you can skip it and continue on into act 3. Just be sure to cure yourself first!
I need NG+ so I can do a tools only runDo you think it would be doable? I wonder if some bosses might have too much health to kill only with tools, and you'd have a silk problem unless you allowed needle usage outside of bossfightsShard consumption would be a pain too but that can be modded
>>542171716>>542172305Aren't the mini-games Act 3 only?
>>542172537Yes
>>542172489LL has the most health. If you can kill her with tools only, then I guess you can everyone.On the other end, the Wisp tool is unlimited, so unless they are immune to fire, or move like Shakra in battle, you'll technically never run out.
>>542166230>Ant areas? LeaderlessI feel like if we waited a few more days she would have just died from old age
>>542168971>>542169409This whole gauntlet is designed for pogoing and clawlining, stay airborne
>>542169409I'm losing my mind, this is the least fair boss I encountered. It has enviromental hazards, summons adds, and has shitwater fucking with heals
>>542172489I tried architect poison tools on ant queen and LL and neither died from tools alone, and this was before architect nerf, idk what other nerfs had been since then
>>542172883Bro, your purification wreath?
>>542171426He's the ant's top guy. They're all crazy nutjobs
>>542172883>I'm losing my mind, this is the least fair boss I encountered.Then be unfair back.
>>542173314What are those flying bugs
>>542173314Nigga you can only have 4 active cogflies, you wasted 2 right there
>>542173364Coglies, I think.>>542173395Not my vid, and I agree.
>>542173364CogfliesAdd the poison blue tool and they become ultracheese
im trying to thing of something fun for my second playthrough that will lead to cursed ending with GMS. I was thinking of rushing judge then using the simple key for rosarie cannon but then i saw you CANT reload it in combat. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>542172906>>542172489You can craft midfight with architect. The issue is how you'll beat the game until architect.
>>542173535>but then i saw you CANT reload it in combat.I'm too poor to use this cannon, but I laughed just now learning this. Did TC think people would cheese with the cannon? Is it that strong?
>>542173696Obviously in NG+ you'd already have it
>>542173725i used it a bit on my full run to test it out and nope it runs out way too fast. Its good for some regular mobs i guess
>>542173725It's an average maybe weaker than avg tool. Just another design oversight by Team Slopry.
>>542171340>He's the one guy protecting bilewater.He's corrupted by soul power. He's bloated from the souls of all the unfortunate pilgrims he's eaten. I don't think he'll stop the consumption. Pharloom is better off without him.
>>542173725>Is it that strong?It's the weakest tool in your arsenal. Even the weakest version of the Silkshot is strongerThe Rosary cannon makes up for it with its rate of fire but it's still much weaker and you're better off using any other tool
>>542174782I wanted to use it againt the flower boss, but you can't even cling to a wall while shooting.
>>542175484flowerboss was embarrassingly easy. Got it on the 3rd try and was like wait wheres the 2nd phase. Like at least increase the speed of the pollen or something
Fucking High Halls fight.And no, I don't have tacks.
>>542173314Finally got the fucker, just needed to use hunter's charged attack everytime he resurface, since he's always airborne.
>>542175921Why do you not have tacks my dudeAlso finish Shakra's wish
>>542175921You can have don quixote help out
>have a poem by a Conductor Romino in the opening>have 3 different Conductors you encounter in the story and lore>none of them are RominoWhat was his deal? Literally the only proof of his existence is the opening poem.
>>542172305I have all the other upgrades, and I can get her staggered in her last phase, but still.But no, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do the thing!I love the therethereposting, my sole respite in Silksong hell...>>542172537Oh...
68 fucking successful pogos ? Doesnt that seem absurdly high? juggle and dodge where relatively easy but 69 with not a single messup or false input on the hunter pogo seems nightmarish
Do the "bring supplies to Bone Bottom/Songclave" missions cause any progress in those camps or are they just for farming rosaries? Also>have simple key>recall I found a lock>I forgot to signal it on the mapI'm going to check the wikia and I won't even feel bad about it, this game's minimap really sucks anyway
>>542176765If you can get her staggered in the last phase then you've got this! I'm rooting for you!
>>542176804it's not that badif you suck at hunter, then use a different crest
>>542176876Just for rosaries. The only courier quests that matter are>The meat rasher run>The queen's egg
>>542176919Thank you anon, your words give me strength and hope!
>>542176804Then don't use hunter wtf are you doing m8Do it with reaper, reaper is the easy mode crest for pogoing
>>542176804My dude you have other crests
>>542176804Pogo is the easiest one
>>542177063All right, thanks, I didn't feel doing them multiple times to see if anything happened because they're just tedious. At this point I'm fully kitted out, I got the nail polished to a shine, I might as well cheese Groal like in the webm above because fuck this game at this point, it has overstayed its welcome already and I'm still not at act 3. By the way, how's Trobbio? I just unlocked the fight but have yet to try it.
>>542177393>>542176935I said to myself i aint swapping from Hunter for my first run. Its just that over 60% of my pogo flea game attempts end in forward slash flash input instead of pogo. Maybe i should change my old ps3 controller but this flea challenge is the last memento i need. Hunter till the end
>>542177553>how's Trobbio?Fun. And bright
>>542177553Why wouldnt you try it for yourself, its a cool fight with a decent reward.
>>542177648keep the stick permanently pointed down and only move it slightly to the sides when you need to move horizontally
>>542177667>>542177685Oh fucking finally, I'll do it Immediately just to take a break from Groal and the stupid conchfly up in Arrakis
Gonna try NG+ with thishttps://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/276?tab=descriptionIt's just some modified new game save files with all the items (the default one doesn't include progression-related abilities)
>>542177553>TrobbioFABULOUSLooks scarier than it actually is.>>542176657I asked for his help with Moorwing, but then I beat it first try without triggering the last dialogue before boss arena. Since then I haven't seen Garmond in the Citadel, don't know if he is even in here. I don't have time to look for him and fight him.
>>542177553>By the way, how's Trobbio? I just unlocked the fight but have yet to try it.He's pretty great. Keep in mind that a lot of his fight is about not being confused by the sheer spectacle
How old is Hornet
>>542179319Old
>>542179319A lot. We don't know exactly but multiple lifetimes of normal insects.
Shakra's fight, is quite the anime, keeps teleporting everywhere
Surprised they didn't do a Myla with this fella
>>542180159Everybody expected it so they subverted it and then did it with Garmond
>>542180159I thought sherma 100% was going to get killed and garmond goes out in a blaze of glory.
>>542180156I'm having a really hard time with shakra, her attacks look so random that its hard to find a pattern out of it, except that ground charge
>>542180969Would have been cool if there were a way to have Garmond deal the finishing blow to GMS and prevent act 3 while still sending her to the void.
Bullshit hunter pogo is easy. I somehow made it to 70 and they were going so absurdly fast i had to resort to clawline. At least i made it and after like 2 more relics i will have officially done everything in the game.
I've gotten all the Silksong achievements and I want more indie metroidvanias to scratch that itch, what are some good ones? Already played:>Blasphemous 1 and 2>Axiom Verge>Environmental Station Alpha>Momodora: RUtM>Salt and Sanctuary>Voidwrought
>>542182230Darkly Big Rabbi Ribbi
>>542181550Then just aim for the ground charge, or whatever you can. iirc I beat her by mostly staying in the middle and just hitting when an opening shows.
>>542180156>>542181550Nah, fuck >>542182623. The correct strategy is to zoom around like a spastic, then climb inside her hitbox and die.Be sure to leave a negative steam review after.
So are the dog fleas going to grow up to be regular fleas like Mooshka and the others?Do the tiny ants all around Hunter's March grow up to be the ant enemies we fight?It seems like when bugs are born they're non-sapient or more animalistic, but then we have stuff like the Huntress' runt who is already fully anthropomorphic, or the baby broodmother who is already talking.
>>542182906Maybe different bugs gain sentience at different rates.
>>542182906Some races have a higher average IQ than others.I know it's painful to hear, but we can't live in ignorance any longer.
>>542182230Nine Sols is pretty fun
>>542182906>Do the tiny ants all around Hunter's March grow up to be the ant enemies we fight?I think the tiny ants either become the small ground ants or small flying ants, and they grow into their respective sentient counterparts
>>542182230Grime if you don't mind that the dev is israeli
>>542183527>the devDamn, no wonder that game seemed to stiff and soulless.I'll probably try it out I guess.
Im afraid Silksong might have ruined other games for me. Now i expect the same level of quality from them.
>>542182479>>542183267Thanks>>542183267Thanks but zioslop is a nogo
I think helping Bilewater heal and the ants be less destructive maniacs is a worthwhile quest for a potential dlc Rebuilding stuff in general
>>542183527Man i cannot for the life of me get into Grime
>>542183923All the ants except for 3 are Haunted (and 2 die) and for all we know most are puppeted corpses. I think given the Gilly dialogue we just have to accept the Far Fields will be fucked for a long time.
>>542183098t. Hornet when asked about her opinions on flies.
>>542184202https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTjzCGCjPaI
I still don't know what the Haunting really even is. I just know this guy sounds happy and chill all the time regardless.
Can i move my savefile to other slots somehow?
>>542184491I like the flying one that sounds like a smitten French girl.>Ooo Ahh!
>>542184647Rename it to the slot you want it saved.
>>542183705>>542183965The start is really slow but as you progress you encounter some really cool bosses and some rather tough platforming sectionsPlus I enjoyed how weird and surreal the world and the story were, and it has kickass music tooI agree the gameplay can feel a bit stiff but I guess I got used to it
>>542184903For me I just couldn't get over how stiff you feel on top of the painfully slow beginning. I've heard a lot about how it gets better much later but those plus the visuals just made me lose interest with time
>>542184663I always refuse to kill those little flying ones until I hear them say the Oowah! line, it's so cute and enthusiasticYou go little bug
>>542184663>Journal entry for that one is calling them a piece of shit who probably had to crutch on others to reach the CitadelHornet didn't have to do them that way.
>>542182230Death's Gambit, Ender Lilies/MagnoliaOwlboy and Iconoclasts are good but easier, more story focused
>>542185075She just tells it like it is.
>>542185075I love the Hunter's Journal in Silksong because it's personalSome entries are really cute and shed a lot of light on Hornet, per personality, her upbringing, and how she sees the worldAnd some are just "That this is fucking disgusting"
>>542182230Do you want pinball in your metroidvanias?
>>542185264Ender Lilies never clicked for me, it always felt like I was playing a particularly pretty newgrounds game for some reason and the level design felt so bland
>>542184491Why did they nerf his damage from 2 to 1?
>>542185769People don't know how to jump
>>542185347>Total Fligger Deatht. Hornet, probably
Why is there no colosseum of fools equivalent? You'd think the citadel would have something like that. They have a theater.
>Courier to putrified ductsWhat is this mmo dogshit quest
>>542186710Its because Coral Tower exists. But yeah an arena with rewards would be cool.
>>542186710Why would the citadel want bugs to fight each other to death when they need them for eternal servitude in keeping GMS asleep?
i finished the entire game with my trust harp and i still dont know what it does. Briefly immobilises multiple foes that cant be it? I was just cosplaying a bard all this time?
>>542186790there's absolutely no reason to do them. no memento, no achievement. you get a materium entry for the unique deliveries but there's no achievement for filling that out either
>>542186710>You'd think the citadel would have something like thatNo, you wouldn't. Why would they have a death coliseum. Their entire thing is eternal servitude
>>542186790There is 0 reason to do any of the courier quest except for the meat rasher and the queen's egg
>>542187301Liquid lacquer for the sake of completionism.
i died to nkg in p5 again
>>542187020>>542187158They sentence lazy bugs to death. They could make them kill each other for spectacle and as a message to the populace.
>>542187878Or they can just work them to death like they do alreadyIf you want spectacle, go to the Trobbio theater like every other bug. Weirdo
>>542187878>They sentence lazy bugs to deathOnly so they can shove their souls into their automatons. There would be no point in them just killing each other in a spectacle fight. It would also contradict the image the citadel tries to project.
>>542188068No I'm autistic. If I want it then it makes perfect sense.If it's not what I want, then it doesn't make any sense at all!Simple as.
>>542187301>>542187126Courier quests count towards act 3 quest requirement completion so if you're doing the 100% speedrun it can be beneficial to do a quick one or two, like the bone bottom or songclave ones.
Oh yea i almost forgot. The hunter crest upgrades i got throughout the game do they happen for other crests or is it just hunter. I assumed Hunter was upgraded because i was using it
>>542188437Nope, Hunter gets 2 upgrades and thats it.
>>542188437The other crests already have a special ability.
>>542188437Just Hunter
>>542188061>>542188068Okay then put the arena somewhere elseThe red ants or the coral army seem like the kind of people who would capture bugs from other lands and dump them into gladiator fights
>>542188437Just hunter, its utility is so basic it gets buffed twice
>>542188930Coral area is dead and the ants probably had some form of coliseum but that's long since faded
>>542188930I don't see the ants caring about that, they seem to just be territorial little bastards. For all we know that's what the coral tower was for.
>have to buy compass>have to equip compass you just boughtFucking hell no. Please tell me they learned from the first game, please tell me they didn't make another metroidvania where one of the most basic functionalities directly tied to the core gameplay requires wasting a slot. Same for the bead magnet, who in the everloving fuck told them it was good game design to have the game's main currency bounce all over the fucking place and potentiall fall into pits/spikes unless you waste a slot on it? Using slots for better drop rates, not losing currency on death, revealing certain things on the map or even maki g hidden walla more visible would all be 100% ok, but not things that are part of the base gameplay.
>>542189995There's mods that fix that, just grab one
>>542189995>muh GPS has an opportunity cost AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHave you considered learning how to read a map instead?
>>542189995it literally doesnt matter man. Like what yellow do you even want to equip? I had a fucking harp on throughout the game because like what else is there even to equip
>>542190510Don't bother, he just wants to punch the virtual drywall.Mom won't take away his nuggies if he does it this way.
>>542190510Ascendant Grip is almost mandatory
>>542190510>t. wanderer shitter
>>542190771I doubt it, otherwise he'd appreciate the weighted belt and shitter's dice.
>>542190771just a humble Hunterbro
>>542190768>he didn't immediately find the right short hop rhythm for staying stilllollmao even
>>542190768>MandatoryThere's not a single part of the game where short hopping on the same wall doesn't accomplish the same thing.At least anklets factually get me where I want to go faster.
>>542190959>he hopped instead of just dashing
>>542191048We know you're retarded, you don't have to explain how badly.
>>542191048I learned you can dash up walls at about the same time I learned you can dash downward for a quick landing. Way too late to matter.
>>542191212It's alright, you don't have to pretend you know what you're talking about, this is an anonymous image board.
>>542176691CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEMCONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM
>>542191408mom's gonna freak?
>>542191357Dashing down never really had much use for me anyway, aside from getting down the long fall to bone bottom faster.
>>542192361i used it only on the race guy to get down faster before the goal and thats about it
>>542190716Yeah, how dare someone question the design choices of the golden goose sequel to the second best game ever made, am I right?
>>542192928Yes sweetie, you're speaking truth to power and enlightening the sheeple. Well done.
>>542182230Cave StoryBlaster Master ZeroLa-MulanaRain WorldThe Witch & the 66 MushroomsTouhou Luna Nights
>>542182906Hornet has no qualms about infanticide.She also entered a guy's dream, killed him, and displayed his heart in her house.I think she might be a psychopath.
>>542194017I love Rainworld, but there's no way Silkies are going to be able to play it without punching a hole through their monitor.They seethe over the smallest things already.
>>542194427its worth noting that rain world is not just a MetroidVania its also a survival game
>>542188293>plays the Last surgery of Conductor Mizello on full blast while fucking>leaves the front door open
Spin me some fun ideas for a second run. Something unique and fun
>>542195880100% completion route.Upon your charted course, consult a map.If a tool or upgrade is within your path, and obtainable, you MUST take it. No exceptions.If a boss is able to be fought along this path, you MUST fight it then and there. No exceptions. Once you acquire a tool, you MUST equip it, no exceptions. This obviously means you must unequip tools to make room at this point.IF A TOOL BECOMES UNEQUIPPED, YOU CAN NEVER EQUIP IT AGAIN. Applies to all colors.Same applies to crests and skills - as you get it, equip it immediately. Once you get a new one, it must be equipped. THE OLD CREST OR SKILL CAN NEVER BE EQUIPPED AGAIN.
>>542191357I was literally fighting LL when I realized you could dash downwards
>>542196404To be clear, no exceptions means that if you cannot afford it: NO EXCEPTIONS; farm until you can. And on your charted path, you cannot skip secret rooms or corridors.
>>542196404i just did 100% i have no reason to do it again. Unless im specifically going for speed complition 30 hrs which i dont know i want to do. I was thinking something more chill like rush a specific fun tool combo and play with that
>>542192495I ended up fucking up the 3rd race and was behind him on the drop for the final line. I clawlined in desperation and learned you can hit him to make him stop.Literally shanked him an inch from the goal line and stole the victory.
>>542196631You wanted something fun and unique. Consider it a Nuzlocke run.
>>542196709oh the first 3 are easy peasy its just learning the route. Although the memento 0/6 race was easy too so idk>>542196801im not at the point of running nuzlocks yet. I just want to reexperience the game since its the first one ive of its type ive played and i got much much better than when i started but in a chill fun way
>>542189995God you guys are such crybaby shitters>NOOOOOOOO MY YELLOW SLOT AIIIIEEEEEEE
>>542197136Just rush beast crest then.
>>542194017I've played a lot of those but I'll check out the others, thanks.>>542194427Rain World was good but the difficulty is completely unlike Silksong. Also I dont know if I'd call it a Metroidvania.
is grimm inspired by that one gay hotel hazbo faggot show?
>>542197305that was the plan until i saw 0 blues. 0 blues = no fun
>>542195880Go for the purple quillEither that or skip Dash and do a low % run.
>>542197439Did your mom drink while pregnant with you?
>>542197452Okay, so you're gonna do that autismo /r9k/ thing where you ask for suggestions then shoot down everything?Have fun with that.
>>542197164>>542190510If the yellow slot items are so shit then remove the yellow slot and make them all permanent upgrades like masks and hearts.
>>542197873Because I dont want silk draining anklets or a bracelet that gives me double damage on 24/7 you doofus
Naaaaaaaaao
I just got double jump. Am I supposed to be able to climb here with it and the clawline, or am I still missing something?
>>542199049i think thats descend only anon. Need to go right side of fay to climb
>>542199478It's here in the map. I descended through a diagonal path after getting the cloak, then I entered here though a narrow tunnel at some stopping point.
>>542199905Yeah, you should be able to climb there with what you have to visit an NPC who gives you lore.
>>542200068But how do I climb in pic related >>542199049? Do I just have to stick to the top of the vertical wall segment, then I can double jump high enough to reach the fly?
>>542200521Double jump off the left wall and clawline the bug iirc
Okay finally tried Shaman crest with Voltvessel and that's fucking disgusting. Sure your heal is ass but you can practically damage race a boss. I wasn't even using thread storm.
Is there any instance where you'd use Silk Spear over Thread Storm?
>>542180453So in a q&a they'll come back and confirm that he's just fine after the game if you didn't do the quest to kill his ass or rushed down the three hearts before he could get too worn out?
I wish Act 3 had more suffering and misery
i just learned magnetic dice can negate damage after playing the entire game with a free yellow slot that i put a harp to. Man i wish the game was clear about what each trinket actually does
>>542202650I think he's fucked regardless....even if you rush the hearts I think the Zaza quest triggers. All we can hope for is some sort of epilogue or a sidequest to save him ahead of time (which seems unlikely).
>>542202835Thats the only tool with a vague description to my knowledge. But it should be a bit clearer. It even buffs Wanderer's crit chances for some reason.
>>542069429>>542069803Probably late, but I suck at platforming and one thing that helped a lot with Mount Fay is realizing that you bounce up automatically after clawlining a bug and I was cancelling it by trying to jump manually.
>>542202692I'm not gonna lie, I was bracing for a fight with corrupted Shakra because I knew you could fight her, I just didn't know you were supposed to do it in Act 1 and I missed the trigger.But yeah, I know my experience was atypical, I can't help but think Team Cherry bitched out by not doing that. Instead they just took out Garmond and left Zaza alone.
>>542203105I think part of it is because so much of the death is a byproduct of Hornet's actions. I think a lot of people would be reluctant to play Act 3 at all if it doomed so many of their beloved NPCs. Even with Garmond they have a scene of Hornet urging him to rest.
>>542203105>Garmond secluded himself in a cave at the edges of Pharloom as he felt the corruption sink into his shell so he wouldnt endanger any other bug
>>542197972>bracelet that gives me double damage on 24/7 you doofusThough I expect every motherfucker to put it on the moment the Godhome equivalent comes out
>>542203452>Fuck
>>542203845I mean its a no brainer for Radiant but I'm not going to touch it otherwise, I dont want to take 4 damage a hit. I am curious if Steel Soul mode Godhome will be the meta play for that one tool boosting yellow.
>>542202692>>542202881>>542203105The issue is that Lost Shakra means a massacred Bellhart and that's a bit darker than they wanted it to go.
WAH WAW WAW WAH WAH
>>542204095Would be wild if everyone in Songclave died in act 3 if you didnt activate Second Sentinel.
>>542204835Imagine the different outcomes if you didn't do things as planned>Shakra would've still went looking for her master and would get corrupted by the void>Bellhart falls because of this and you have to put her down>Alternatively if you didn't activate Second Sentinel, Songclave gets decimated>Sherma is the only survivor
>>542204835>Sherma deadI hesitate to think how people would react to that.
WORST BOSS IN THE GAMEHOLY FUCKfaggot ruined 6 p5 runs before I managed to beat himwhat a dogshit experience, this pantheon is designed to waste as much of your time as possible before reaching nkg / pv / absradI died on pv immediately after this fuck :(
>>542209640>not healing when you force him to his bat formNot gonna make it
>>542209640I think it's a fun fight. Just like regular Nightmare King, there's pretty much one response for every one of his attacks. In your clip you're pretty much already doing everything right, just getting hit for standing at the wrong spots. Also, >>542209974if by "bat form" he means when he spawns consecutive pillars off the ground.
>>542210347Nah I meant bat form as in when he takes the form of a bat.
>>542210347Never mind, I'm retarded and I just noticed he turns into a bunch of black bats at some points. Didn't even remember he did that. But anyway, you could also be healing instead of attacking when he spawns the slow ass pillars.
I was surprised to come on here and see people call First Sinner an Act 3 boss. You can get to her in Act 2 as soon as you get Faydown Cloak.
My memory is probably faulty, but I spent so much fucking time learning to beat the pantheons with charm binding that have I the notion of any other form of doing them being piss easy.
>>542210612WHO CALLS HER THAT
>>542210612I fought her in act 2 as well. I didn't know people were calling her an act 3 boss. Just get the double jump and you can reach her
>>542209314Sherma is literally the only person at Songclave in act 3 that people will give a shit about. No, make Juliana the only survivor.
