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I love Itsuka Kotori!

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i love my wife histoire
thank you for thread

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I love Red Riding Hood

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>Meanwhile, IF is seething that she couldn't break into the gacha market.
>But hey, at least they still have their """integrity""" *snicker*

>>542425704
What anti-gachafags don't realize, this is the same shit with every "trend" that happens. Remember all those shitty mobas from the early 2010s that came and went? Remember all those hero shooters that came and went? Remember all those battle royales that came and went?
Gachas rise and fall all the time, and it rose in the first place as a response to the rising developmental costs of games.
There are tons of shitty gachas, and the most popular ones actually try to be games, despite that blancfag's seething take that they aren't.
They're popular because maybe, and this might blow some of those fags minds, people actually enjoy playing them! Gasp! What a concept!
It's interesting to me that gachas first appeared around the same time that games Farmville and Mafia Wars declined. There's no real correlation. Just something interesting to point out.

>>542426581
I always find it hilarious how you act as if I can only enjoy one thing. I play the 3 main mihoyo games and Wuthering Waves sometimes. And I still play nep games. I bought Mary Skelter Finale and enjoyed it. I played Death End Re;quest and enjoyed that. The Neptunia game I replay the most is HDN because it has a wonderful OST and I enjoy the vibe it has the most despite the obvious roughness around the edges it has. But nah, I'm "evil" because I enjoy [x] because it's "evil" and killed [your favorite game genre]. Okay bro.

>>542426019
I personally like Superdimension Histoire the most. She really felt like a proper tome. I love "the world's everything" That's so cool.
Hyperdimension Histoire is too much of a bitch to Neptune. And Ultradimension Histoire is too smol and cute, I can't take her seriously.

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>542427240
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I see a fuck ton of people recommending me WuWa because they were the same as me, they don't like Mihoyo games but they actually love WuWa.
I'm kinda hesitant because, while I tend to enjoy the non-popular games more than mainstream, I've seen youtubers and anon from /gig/ and /zzz/ shit seriously on WuWa, basically it's the typical soulless rip-off of popular game(Genshin Impact in this case), so I never dare to play that one.

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>>542425632
Blocks your path

>>542427240
i understand what you're saying man but you have to admit the *only* appeal of gacha is *not* the gameplay, and that for a not insignificant amount of people, especially twitter egirls and tranny teens to young adults, a lot of the appeal is serialized characters and gambling in order to get them. there are a few gacha games with actual competent gameplay that makes them maybe "worth playing" in that regard, but that's overshadowed greatly by a lot of samey cashgrab autobattlers.
i tried genshin and star rail and while i will admit that both do have actual gameplay, the actual gameplay is not really that much to write home about, and you wouldn't be playing it just for that unless you are the type that's never played another game. sure, you can say this about standard jrpgs like nep as well, but they have the advantage of not being infinitely updated live service games that try to convince you to spend money on them, and that's worth something.
the bigger problem i have with you gacha fags is that this is nepgen, not genshin general, you have other places you can go to discuss this, and shouldn't be shitting up our thread.
also gacha did kill otaku games, but i'm not going to fault you for that, it's just the changing of the tides

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>>542427740
neptune break!!

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>>542428365
Counter!

>>542428738
The original will always be stronger.

>that's worth something
What is it worth, exactly, and what does it mean? That nepslop is better than xslop (that happens to be gacha).
I don't know man. The reason so many otakus left is that some gacha games were offering a higher quality and easier product. That's how the market is. As an example, all the otaku devs response SHOULD'VE been what Compile Heart did with Megadimension Neptunia VII: up the fanservice, the quality, the gameplay the delivery, the soundtrack.
And what do you know, VII was the best selling nep game (I think), it made neps /v/ culture for time, we had it good. And we all thought it could only get better from here.
That didn't happen. What did Compile Heart and Idea Factory do with all the money they got from VII? Did they take their time and make VIII?
No, they didn't. Instead, they made spinoff after spinoff and two remakes of games that DID NOT NEED remakes.
Now you might think I'm conveniently ignoring all the other games they made in the meanwhile like Fairy Fencer F and the like. That's nice they made them. But that's the thing. They're still making otaku games, despite being infamously among the lowest of the lowest budget for a significant studio. So what exactly is the problem here? That other devs weren't so lucky?
I think those other devs just made stupid business decisions because they failed to adapt to a changing industry, and considering how Japanese suits are... yeah I'm not surprised.
Now I wish for a universe where instead of all those spinoffs we got another massive mainline nep game. Neptunia could've been a major name, the hero we needed. But unfortunately, that's not what happened, because Compa prefers to make many low budget games that they like, and rather than invest back into one Neptunia release.
There's nothing wrong with that... but the market changed, and they realized too late. At least they're still moving slowly along.

>>542428505
>dead compa
It's over
Also Neptune Break was so satisfying in HDN. I loved the slower animations in HDN. I hate how fast the animations are in Rebirth, I can't appreciate them.

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>>542427797
>also gacha did kill otaku games, but i'm not going to fault you for that
I am, the tides don't change on their own, they required delusional, bottom-feeding gachabuta like him to accept and embrace this shit. Gacha would have not taken off if otaku had the smarts and moral integrity to reject it. He is emblematic of why this shit is now so prevalent; not only does he play it, he defends it like it's a good thing. Of course, what I CAN'T really fault is people looking to gacha as the only source of anime/bishoujo-style fanservice since it got all but eradicated from retail platforms, but that in itself is a self-sustaining prophecy; now even if the platforms do end up reversing their anti-anime policies, you still have the majority of the audience hooked on these garbage gachas, and so basic business calculus dicatates why go back to retail games when these are easier to make and much more profitable (when successful). Again, the only thing that could have thrown a wrench in this calculus is otakus rejecting gacha, but they didn't, and now we're here.

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>>542429712
>up the fanservice, the quality, the gameplay the delivery, the soundtrack
>blocks ur path

>>542429712
i don't really disagree with you in this, as i said, the tides changed. it is unfortunate the other devs weren't so lucky or smart, and what it's worth is not being games that are live service, i already said that. would you like me to outline the problems with live service and also phone-based games in general? i could easily do that, but i'm sure you've already heard it a lot. i simply do not like them, live service results in stories that never end, conclusions never reached, and for those that aren't structured like that, the stories are mainly about "here's our new character, here's a short little adventure with her, spend money to roll her in the gacha because you like her (mostly superficial) personality". like yeah, it's worth something dude. i think that series that relied on getting a person invested in a waifu that lasts a long time and isn't super superficial is much more novel than flavor of the month new character based stuff, which, you have to be honest, is most gacha.
>>542430067
i get what you're saying as well but it's the same deal as commies being like "well communism would work if everyone could just be nice to each other!" like, yeah man i'm sure, we don't live in that world though
>>542430258
sauce for this?

>>542429712
>up the fanservice, the quality, the gameplay the delivery, the soundtrack.
In addition to >>542430258, this requires increasing the budget even further, beyond what a dev like Compa is likely able to handle. And at a time when the audience they target prefers to invest in gachas instead of traditional games, they likely don't have the money lying around to do that. I seriously doubt current Compile Heart has anywhere near the budget they had during the Vita/early PS4 era, let alone any ability to go further. They're just stuck because console censorship kneecapped them and then gachas took over their market.

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>>542430442
>i get what you're saying as well but it's the same deal as commies being like "well communism would work if everyone could just be nice to each other!"
How does this make him not at fault? Am I supposed to believe he has zero agency as a consumer? His financial decisions as well as those of others like him led directly to this. Increasingly I've come to believe that gamers in general are the ultimate consoomer cattle, because they can't seem to mount an effective boycott to save their own lives, when even fucking drunk-ass boomers could mount an effective boycott of Bud Light when they started shilling trannyshit.
>sauce for this?
Found it in an old /nepgen/ thread from a few years ago in the archives. It's likely OC made by an anon.

>Noire is to blame for the rise of gacha
Cutie Noire is NOT to blame. Blame old American suits and old Japanese suits.
>the old "noire fucks old men for shares" poster was actually right
SAY IT AIN'T SO

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>>542429924
Mean of me to say but Compa is an acceptable casualty, she was in a death loop as well. Pretty sure this was before I unlocked anything she could have used to heal herself at the end of her turn too.
Somewhere in the middle would probably be a good speed, it is a bit too long to watch repeatedly honestly. That goes for all the ultimate moves though, especially if you are fighting a boss. The gun animations were fine as they were though, if we just talk about speed. Ai chan can jump. Noire too.

>>542430442
>sauce
Koikatsu, unless you were asking for the Noire mod, in which case I can go get the link if you want though he uses the SvS stuff for most of it nowadays.

>>542427797
>gacha did kill otaku games
NTA, but that isn't true. The thing that is actually killing otaku/niche games is the rampant censorship from all the major storefronts. Gacha and traditional games can co-exist.

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>>542431286
Noire the Whoire kneecapped otaku games at a crucial time when they needed to keep upping the ante or at least keep their current pace to stay competitive with the slowly rising gacha market. The death of Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun, Genkai Tokki, Omega Labyrinth, etc. created a void that gachas quickly exploited, and they soon absorbed most of the original players of those games. Even today, check the average Blue Archive player's social medias and you'll often find they used to play those games. Hell, I talked to the old 8 chan /nep/ board owner over email and he said right up that most of the board's old userbase took up gacha after 8 chan went down and the board became inactive, explicitly naming Blue Archive as well. Noire absolutely played a crucial part in pushing everything to gachashit by effectively zoning otakus off from consoles.

>>542431252
you've kind of answered your question in your own post. like yeah he *is* at fault and he should be bullied to death for it and especially for doing it in nepgen, but like, i see this and this entire trend as an inevitable. otaku are largely just autistic people and autistic people are super prone to skinnerbox shit because we largely lack self-control, even i have felt the call of gachas to some degree (but i only involve myself with kantai collection and it's a secondary interest for me and not one i'll try to really defend), gamers are largely autistic retards and then insane cattle normies, both are super easy to manipulate and generally spineless. so yeah, it's his fault in part, but also it'd be really silly to act like this wasn't inevitable.
>>542431847
i just wanted the exact link to whoever made this and presumably put it on pixiv or iwara or something. if there is none i'm good on that
>>542432140
i kind of disagree, like yes rampant censorship is definitely playing a part but the main consumer base of otaku games is being eaten up by gacha regardless of that, i see it in tons of circles online.

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>appears in (You)r thread

>>542432143
it's incredibly sad to me because at their peak i think these games were fucking phenomenal. i've interacted with very few but i played a bit of senran kagura after recently hacking my vita and oh my god it's amazing! i'm glad there's a lot of stuff left for me to play due to how green i am in this field but it's soul-crushing to think that the "modern equivalents" are nikke, hoyoslop, and blue archive. these games are less lewd and less high quality than probably anything in that realm and it shows immensely. it's hilarious to even suggest that they're a worthwhile modern equivalent

>>542432387
This is the guy I know;
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/19359691
I am sure there are others. His stuff is also on Kemono if you want to look there. His older ports should be there as well.

>>542432739
Can we get the real Mirai instead?

>>542432759
You should play 3DS Senran too, easily emulated. I think those are the best the series ever was to be honest.

>>542432759
>less lewd
this might be the only reason gachas were allowed to fill the empty niche

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The end result of all of this? Behold the absolute state of Compa in 2025. I mean, even I can kinda understand why people would choose gacha when this is their competition now. We're all hoping and praying that Compa has some trick up her sleeve for the next Neptunia mainline, but the odds are grim, and let's be honest, if this game fails, it's over, they may as well wave the white flag then and there.

>>542432986
thanks! also i'm not super interested in playing a 3ds game right now, though i definitely will at some point. i'm still bent out of shape because i managed to break both of my 3dses and one of them is more or less beyond repair with my skills and the other i'm just too lazy to deal with. i probably just want to buy a new n2dsxl before i play anymore 3ds games honestly.
plus i hate nintendo for not having achievements as they're one of the easiest ways to help me work through a game i like without getting distracted
>>542433064
definitely but it's godawful, i fucking hate prude bullshit ruining ecchi. it's atrocious that ecchi anime can't even exist anymore and the closest we got to a proper one was probably onimai recently unless i missed some, and even that couldn't have more than a single frame of like 10 pixels of a pantyshot. i know it had other things but i'm a pantyshot fan.
>>542433205
what even is this

>>542433205
>they may as well wave the white flag then and there
here's hoping they realize the gravity of the situation and give it their all. unless CH is a yakuza front a good Neptunia game is the only thing that can keep them afloat.

>>542433426
>ecchi anime also dying just like ecchi games
Animeshit in general has become more prudish.
Can you imagine that infamous picture of naked Rom and Ram licking the banana being released today? Absolutely impossible.
Here's an anecdote: my (zoomer) normalfag online friend who played Neptunia up to Rebirth 2 literally decided not to continue the series after that CG of Trick licking the candidates, then when I showed him that banana art and told him it was official he literally quit Neptunia. Like really? Nevermind that he was actually enjoying the game.
It's sad.

>>542434013
yeah prudism is terrible and i laugh at anime fans these days in general. even outside of ecchi stuff in anime being dead as hell, 99% of the anime we get is subpar adaptations of subpar manga, stuff like onimai and puniru being the highlight in recent years tells me enough, though i enjoyed both. it's been a while since we got decent anime originals and even longer since we got an even remotely provocative ecchi, and meanwhile bullshit like ruri rocks with safe horny adult woman with wide hips design is getting hailed by every single fucking zoomer "gooner" ever. it's just fucking depressing. i miss when anime was for otakus, lolicons weren't ousted from their fucking home communities, and people didn't have insane psychoses about being the most baseline sexually attracted to fucking anything. it's really fucking atrocious how the normie zoomer has invaded our spaces

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>>542433426
>what even is this
Calamity Angels, the newest Galapagos RPG game. Yes, the same guys that made Fairy Fencer F, Death end re;Quest and Dragon Star Varnir now give you... this. Even better, IFI apparently thinks this is worth making you wait until 2026 for.
>>542434013
You did your goddess-ordained duty by filtering him. There is no point in trying to bring around cute-aggressive people who fear lolis and the concept of moe. They would just end up being problems later. The Blue Archive fags have a point on this. Aggressive filtering through lolis is a good thing. It keeps the fandom cohesive and the culture pure.

>>542434919
is it even going to be remotely good?
also agreed on the second bit, i learned this the hard way and got twitter "canceled" (lol) because i let retards be around me. ever since then i've been aggressively pushing my otakuism into every place i interact that isn't somewhere i'm attempting to be businessly, and i've only had great results from this. prior i had a lot of difficulty making friends and felt lost and upset, after the fact, while not everyone i've met has been perfect (newgen lolicons are a plague in general, blue archive ruined all loli spaces), they've at least been tolerable and there's been a few good ones here and there, instead of people that make me want to kill everyone and then myself. can't imagine going back
also the blue archive fags would have a point if it wasn't two warring political factions of ba trannies and ba cunnyhitlers, both of them need to be slaughtered like the cattle that they are, but yeah i guess they do know about filtering to some degree.

>>542434013
>quitting Neptunia as soon as the candidates get their first round of lewding
probably the right thing to do if you're a normalfag or pretty much anyone with a better moral compass than mine really

>>542435996
"better"

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I love my wife Neptune!

>>542436068
i love my wife neptune too

>Gacha and traditional games can co-exist.
Not really. The problem imo is that anime has become too mainstream, now that normalfags make up the majority of the otaku audience they are the ones in control. Normalfags chose 3D thots, OF cosplay, censorship, gacha, vtubers. The original otaku culture was murdered and replaced by tiktok bitches(even though 3DPD was not accepted years ago), even oldfags and original otakus have just given up and accepted this change.
VNs, ecchi, lolis... All of that died simply because normalfags, majority of otakus now, rejected them and want them dead and buried.

>>542437070
call them fauxtaku because they're not otaku at all, but yeah pretty much. we even get anti-lolicon posts in this general and i've seen multiple /a/ threads with as retarded of anti-lolicon shit as you see on twitter these days.

>it's been a while since we got decent anime originals
What was the last good anime for you, anons?

>>542437346
puniru was great and had a decent amount of fanservice. i was a fan of the manga before the anime started airing, and i think the adaptation is pretty good actually. still wish modern ecchi could have pantyshots though.

>>542437070
If we're lucky, those that have potential to want more will leave gacha and explore old ecchi games.
Like Snowbreak, a more ""lewd" gacha compared to something like Genshin, it was seen as as big deal that you can massage your girls' feet. You could've already done that in Senran Kagura, a decade earlier!
Unfortunately more lewdish gacha games like Snowbreak aren't exactly doing well (for a gacha game) because modern gamers are too prudish. Shame. I hope that ones that can like that game realize a decade ago there are a whole bunch of games to try (read: emulate)

>>542432140
NTA but gacha kinda exacerbates it cuz it's basically the epitome of nothing being more expensive than free, like, they used to put like a dozen, maybe a couple dozen, characters in a game and have to make a whole ass gameplay system to try and differentiate themselves from each other while somewhat competing against the more mainstream games in their genre, just to sell it for like $40 when now, for example, in Genshin, a single 10 roll for a less than 1% chance to get a particular character runs you ~$26 before even considering that you can't buy 1600 primogens outright and the smallest pack you can buy that will give you more than 1600 primogens is $30, and Genshin doesn't even need to compete against traditional console games because it's a mobile game. Although it's really Sony's fault(and maybe Marvy's for not being willing to try developing a mainline for Switch), it really shows how gacha affects the ecchi gaming landscape cuz we went from a competent beat-em-up franchise with dozens of characters and shooter spinoffs to a fucking card game. Like, they could have made a mobile Senran Kagura, multiple beat-em-ups exist to prove that, especially Action Taimanin, but they just... don't need to.

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>>542437208
Nowadays I even see anime threads simping and shilling for OF whores in cosplay. It's gross how women have been given so much power!
>we even get anti-lolicon posts in this general and i've seen multiple /a/ threads with as retarded of anti-lolicon shit as you see on twitter these days.
The thing that pisses me off the most about loli antis is that they are totally ok with shota shit and worship pedo whores. Only lolis get banned.
If you're gonna throw a fit over 2D little girls at least don't be an hyprocite asshole. These zoomers give women a pass just because they are women.

>>542436327
wrong she's only my wife

>>542438132
Calm down Histyfag. Just because she's the OP it doesn't mean you have to go all out with your degeneracy

>>542438089
tl:dr, gacha fucks over the ecchi gaming sphere because it's way more profitable and doesn't have remotely near as tough of competition in terms of gameplay because it usually releases on the mobile market where the standard is much lower due to control limitations. Senran gacha is a good example of this, where they went from pumping out a bunch of fairly competent beat-em-ups with some shooter and pinball spinoffs or whatever to a fucking card game, not because they couldn't make a mobile beat-em-up but because the standard on mobile is low enough that they don't need to.

>>542437964
not that i ever truly succumbed to gacha but this is quite literally what is happening with me currently after getting super nostalgic for nep and deciding to go back to it and play ps3 hdn and hacking my vita. it's certainly a possibility that this will happen to others but i won't exactly cross my fingers, at the least we need devs to port their stuff to PC so they actually make money on this happening.
>>542438132
oh yeah it's pretty bad, not exactly the same thing but i used to be on /llsifg/ and when i came back to try to use it again at least 80% of the posts were obsession over the real-life idols / VAs and posting bullshit of them and it repulsed me so much, several people in the thread talked negatively on it regularly but we were just outnumbered.
>>542438358
shut up man we all love lolis here, go back to twitter

>>542436048
nepping is a guilty pleasure of mine

>>542438715
learn to embrace it, we need more people openly being otaku now more than ever

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Oh, I forgot. 3D women and feminism are also another factor at fault here.
About a decade ago, Americans began scolding the world about how everything was for the boys and that women deserved to be able to enjoy mens shit too(games, sports, etc...). Due to that, anime games like Genshin started to introduce femboys and bishonen faggots and tone down the ecchi on female characters, just to pander to women.
See? This is why nobody liked 3D women in ancient times of internet.

>>542438975
it's made men hate women even more, now more than ever actual women otaku have to make sure to never mention being a woman online or other otakus will instantly ostracize them. it's unfortunate because i've known actual real female otaku that are as reasonable as any otaku, but they're universally hated and ostracized pretty much everywhere due to the bad rep women have because of feminazis and children

>>542438975
it makes me upset that both political parties here in the US are anti-anime just for different reasons. one side is christian puritanical as fuck and wouldnt ever give a flying fuck about anime censorship, the other one does give a flying fuck and exacerbates it. i'm also quite frankly baffled why, despite this being plainly visible, somehow the censorship always intensified when trump was elected. i genuinely dont understand why, like with texas i can kinda see the cause and effect but for some reason that australian feminist group and mastercard and visa and nintendo and steam(well, kinda, we were really close to the end of the biden admin) all decided to tone down the prudishness until now

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>>542437964
>it was seen as as big deal that you can massage your girls' feet
Modern ecchi is so lame, honestly.
Feet is like bottom-of-the-barrel fetish. It's like eating McDonalds or drinking the cheapest beer, or smoking the cheapest weed. It's humiliating, gross, pathetic.
I want tits, ass, and thighs...

>>542439605
i keep telling this to retarded republican otaku and they keep acting like i'm insane and say "BUT WOKE BUT DEI THE LEFT IS WORSE RIGHT WINGERS BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH" despite this clearly not being the case, thanks for making me feel a bit less insane.
and yeah, it sucks so fucking much. i can only hope the next administration undoes a lot of the bs happening right now

>>542437964
actually yeah thats another way that gacha screws over ecchi... it's all released on a fucking phone. like, they need to be developed knowing people might be playing on busses and shit. sure, a lot of neps and senrans released portably, probably due to cheaper dev costs, but they also made the move to the home console because it means hardware power and privacy. hell, im so mad that sony SPECIFICALLY, above anyone else, is so anal about these things because you could have some high-quality service on the ps4, it had some actual power unlike the switch and it wasnt as unintuitive to dev for as pc, is was perfect. now the only thing left are vita ports and hrpgs.
>>542439742
actually, whats heinously fucked about this situation is that they might not be entirely wrong. like, trump never made an executive order or signed a law stigmatizing anime. nobody in his administration voiced anything resembling anti-anime. hell, they usually were vocally "anti-woke", whatever that means, so logically we shouldn't be having these issues during his administration, but for some fucking reason the feminists start ONLY when he's in office and he does jack shit about it. that "fair-banking" act MIGHT affect the visa situation, but he's never pushing back against "woke agendas in media" or whatever. 4chan isn't niche, his campaigners and probably him himself, at least musk, should know about 4channers liking anime for some fucking reason and that they keep bitching about feminists ruining it, but no, nothing. and i have no fucking clue why this happens not once, but twice.

>>542440494
i'm honestly not too sure, a lot of republican shit is "think of the kids" "anime is demonic" whatever, collective shout is a huge organization responsible for a lot of this that's very clearly christian but trying to draw feminists too by the way they present things. i think it's safe to say that even if trump doesn't directly talk about it, he's still absolutely for it because he appeals to the majority of conservatives, which, believe it or not, are christian prudes. the right *should* be the party for those who believe in free speech, but this administration has very much shown that that is not the case. it's very unfortunate, but the otaku truly has no friends. it could be that trump being in office "fires up" feminists because they can blame more shit on him or something, but i just don't really think that's the case, i've seen feminists, they kill themselves when trump gets elected on average, and they lose a lot politically

>>542439414
Yeah, in old times otaku girls were much different. I remember otaku girls were all into yaoi, wrote fanfics, weren't bitching about ecchi fanservice, in fact many otaku girls used to love franchises like Kill La Kill or Nekopara. Every otaku girl also had her own page on facebook or deviantart to post their drawings, because otaku girls back then wanted to be artists, now every otaku girl just wants to be an e-whore on tiktok.
I want to go back so bad!

>>542440968
well on the plus side the rebirth trilogy's seemingly being re-released on ps4 in a couple weeks, if sony's fine with the stuff in there then maybe this whole fiasco will dial down. i really hope they do, because it's evident to me that ecchi devs have no desire to move to switch or pc and so sony basically has that entire market in the palm of it's hand

>>542438975
I don't wanna bring /pol/shit in here, but let's just say I think that's a factor in the decline of good quality ecchi. That, and anime becoming more mainstream introducing prudes into anime.

Funny story. My recollection is funny, but Honkai Impact 3rd, the previous big gacha game Mihoyo made before Genshin Impact, was going to add bunny suits as a paid skin, in 2021. The (Chinese) fanbase rioted, with one particularly deranged individual going as far to literally threatened the CEO of mihoyo's life (this is not an exaggeration).
Why would they do that? The sin of making bunny suits a PAID skin on top of the gacha stuff?
No. The reason? The bunny suits themselves, and the promo video of them dancing with them. It was too lewd. That guy threatened the life of the CEO (serious) over bunny suits.
Pathetic. Mihoyo is pretty gooner for Chinese standards (for its time, their old slogan was "tech otakus save the world", they LOVE(d?) Japanese shit). HI3 had full bikini skins in 2018 (somehow less bad than bunny suits btw). In just 3 years, gachafags went from bikinis being a-okay to rioting over bunny suits. And now mihoyo is super reluctant to do anything lewd to its characters, to the point of showing off bare feet is supposed to be big fanservice now.
I would say "haha chinkcels" but this kinda (not to the same degree) of backlash is not uncommon.

>>542438527
>>542438417
It's kinda weird to me, ecchi became even more niche, isn't that a good thing to these people?
Like I would LOVE another Rom and Ram banana, but like that kind of stuff isn't done anymore because of the current environment.
I hope it makes a comeback, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up.

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>>542435267
>is it even going to be remotely good?
I don't know, you tell me.
https://files.catbox.moe/2dvhif.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/u2pfhk.mp4

>newgen lolicons are a plague in general, blue archive ruined all loli spaces
I can definitely say that it's awfully tiring how Blue Archive seems to completely taken over all eromoe and loli discussion. You could probably show Kodomo no Jikan (pic related), one of the golden children of loli manga/anime and possibly the most infamous manga of all time to half of them and they probably wouldn't even know what it was. Much like gacha and Vtubers displaced the greater legacy otaku culture, BA effectively displaced the old lolicon culture, especially in more mainstream spaces.
>also the blue archive fags would have a point if it wasn't two warring political factions of ba trannies and ba cunnyhitlers
I almost never see the former. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough, but the latter aims their gatekeeping primarily at them and as far as I can tell, it's been working. The BA base is still unashamedly horny and lolicon at large. Compare to, say, Uma Musume where as soon as it got a global, the normalfag-adjacents flooded in and started clashing with the older fans, bringing much of the typical "discourse" you usually see on Xitter regarding anime-style series these days. Blue Archive has avoided most of that because the normalfag-adjacents could never get a foothold, in large part because the fandom gatekeeps by being absolutely, shamelessly horny for lolis. How much of it is performative and how much of it is real, I couldn't tell, but I can say it seems to be working for its stated purpose. Also, I'd never countersignal the cunnyhitlers too hard because I'm a hardline RWer myself. At the absolute worst, it's just funny to me, and it works as gatekeeping for the worst types (leftists, trannies and proship feminists) as a bonus.

>>542441812
the censorship was as suddenly arbitrary as the uncensorship would be, you can always pray to god that sony decides "yknow, maybe we like tits" after steller blade or genshin or fucking anything

>>542441436
i think they'll have to bend the knee sooner or later, but maybe i'm too hopeful.
>>542441812
this is actually insane to hear of, i hate china so much but even i didn't know this shit. what the fuck dude?
>>542442097
ermmm, isn't looking great...
ba is gross and a friend of mine even brought up a lot of the characters (especially in fanart) do not even have children bodytypes, they're just petite women basically. it's annoying
i see a ton of ba trannies but yeah ba cunnyhitlers are more common. the cunnyhitlers try to gatekeep the trannies but the trannies are often much more willing to admit their attraction to (fictional) children whereas the cunnyhitlers are frequently caught saying "it's just a bodytype" and "if you confuse [child loli character] with a child you need your hard drive checked". it's beyond insane to me, i can't fucking reason it. i can tell you a lot of it is performative because of this.
personally, i'm a leftwinger, so you could say i have some bias in this, but really i hate both sides and wish all people involved would die. i don't trust lolicons who put their political ideology before their attraction to lolis, same goes for otaku, and most BA fans are like this, so i block most on both sides.
>>542442167
i pray to god that you are correct in this

>>542439742
>i can only hope the next administration undoes a lot of the bs happening right now
And I'll be there to hand you your very own "fell for it again award" when they don't. Expecting the left party to undo leftist cultural gains is completely delusional. Even their track record on undoing the bad shit Republicans pass is abysmal. FOSTA-SESTA still stands, and EVERYONE except two people in the aisle supported that. Biden himself personally signed off on KOSA.

>>542443143
then what the fuck do we do man? i guarantee next admin is going to be democrat, because of how bad this admin is going, that's just how american politics work. so what, i have to live through 8 years of this shit and then MAYBe, JUST MAYBE, the next republican administration undoes some awful trump shit?

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>>542437208
>we even get anti-lolicon posts in this general
It's pretty much just the IFtard and he obviously does it just to bait.

>>542442837
well, i at least bet that the trilogy will actually release this time. i know people arent even trying for playstation because of the damage they done at the start, but i haven't heard of them being too puritanical lately while steam and especially nintendo have been outright denying releases of even censored games. last i remember was stellar blade and that was more than a year ago, and the fact that they were even interested in a game marketed off sex appeal is a good sign to me. doubt it'll make senran come back, but hey, a wins a win.
>>542443270
>>542443143
considering what happened in texas with dragon ball being pulled(in anticipation) over that new law targeting "sexual depictions of minors in media" as well as the fact that that law is clearly actually meant to be wielded against tranny shit, we could see a massive overcorrection as, if they want their propaganda to be uncensorable, they would basically have to stop them from censoring anything not obviously illegal so that they can keep pushing hrt onto kids, because otherwise they WILL find a loophole. or at least, this is a possibility. or maybe the fair banking act will affect payment processors and steam gets a smut renaissance for good pr, who fucking knows. anything can happen, look on the bright side, things can always get better as long as Nep keeps chugging along!

also damn i oughta get paid for how much im writing, my fingers are gonna cramp at this rate

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>>542442167
As long as Sony is staffed with people like this, they're never going to take the boot off of straight male anime fanservice. Which pretty much means they have to pull out of California at minimum, because American colleges are breeding grounds for creatures like this and that's their whole recruiting base there. Funnily enough, Nintendo started on their shit soon after a similar-looking foid transferred from SIE to Nintendo of America, and now a deranged-looking woman is president of that whole branch.

>>542444218
idunno, i prefer to be hopeful, if sony keeps losing to PC and if steam starts drawing the japanese in then i can see them trying to claw them back by at least giving back token games. and if nothing else, the trilogy might show what their position is right now, although i wouldnt be too surprised if it ended up censored in some way

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>>542444171
>considering what happened in texas with dragon ball being pulled(in anticipation) over that new law targeting "sexual depictions of minors in media" as well as the fact that that law is clearly actually meant to be wielded against tranny shit
My reading was that it was meant to get ahead of AI being used for genning (actual) CP. So far, it's actual impact has been minimal, just the one con ejecting JAST (who then set up in the even more legislated UK with no issues) and one storeowner overreacting by pulling Dragon Ball from the shelves, but there were at least a few people calling a few years ago that AI and the specific way it blurs fiction and reality would lead to further erosion of legal protections for lolicon as legislators attempt to get ahead of its potential to mass-distribute illegal content. There HAS however been attempts in other states (e.g., Michigan) to use cracking down on trannyshit as a trojan horse to try and ram wide-reaching lewd bans through.

>>542445131
>if sony keeps losing to PC and if steam starts drawing the japanese
from what i know this is currently happening, so here's hoping

>>542445473
>(e.g., Michigan) to use cracking down on trannyshit as a trojan horse to try and ram wide-reaching lewd bans through.
im gonna need you to tell me right now whats going on cuz thats my state and i do NOT want to end up in jail over fucking neptunia mk2

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>>542445131
Will anyone trust them, though, even if they do recant? 2018 was a betrayal that few saw coming, especially on the Japanese side, and the scars of that betrayal still run deep. Takaki just about completely left the industry, and virtually no one dared attempt something like Senran Kagura again even when the Switch was still a viable alternative; after 2019, it was pretty much just ports, remasters and qureate and nothing else. Speaking of, Nintendo showed that even an actual, written statement from a company representative is no real reassurance as Nintendo still pulled the rug a few years later even after explicitly stating their opposition to Sony's policies at the time. All this considered, will devs ever chance making something like the games from the Vita era again knowing that platforms can pull the rug at a moment's notice with no recourse? It's why I've been saying nothing short of something like actual legislation giving devs the power to sue for content-related deplatforming will ever truly solve this. As long as the threat of platforms pulling support at any time remains, we will never truly be free.

>>542445729
>Overview of the Anticorruption of Public Morals Act

The Anticorruption of Public Morals Act is a proposed bill in Michigan aimed at banning various forms of online content deemed to "corrupt the public morals." Introduced on September 11, 2025, by state Rep. Josh Schriver and other Republican lawmakers, the bill seeks to impose strict penalties for the distribution of certain materials.
Key Provisions
Definition of Prohibited Material

The bill broadly defines prohibited content, including:

Sexual Acts: Any depiction, description, or simulation of sexual acts, whether real or animated.
Erotic Content: This includes literature, videos, and audio designed to sexually arouse or gratify.
Transgender Representation: Material depicting individuals of one biological sex imitating or representing another biological sex is also banned.
ASMR Content: Erotic ASMR and similar auditory content fall under the ban.

Penalties

Violators of the act could face severe consequences:

Criminal Charges: Distributing prohibited material could result in a felony charge, with penalties of up to 20 years in prison and/or fines up to $100,000.
Increased Penalties: For violations involving more than 100 pieces of prohibited material, penalties could increase to 25 years in prison and fines up to $125,000.

Internet Service Provider Responsibilities

The act mandates that internet service providers (ISPs) implement filtering technology to block access to prohibited content. They must also monitor and block tools that allow users to circumvent these restrictions, such as VPNs.
Implications

The act's broad definitions and severe penalties raise concerns about censorship and the potential impact on free expression, particularly regarding artistic and educational content.

https://www.legislature.mi.gov/documents/2025-2026/billintroduced/House/pdf/2025-HIB-4938.pdf

>>542446224
true, but there's still devs like compa around who will get as horny as they can get away with provided they're given the leeway to. i don't think senran will come back, but neptunia might start getting more ecchi(and maybe more than before, just to make up for being all clean and chaste before) and japenese games, or at least jrpgs in general, might be pervier than they used to.
>>542446708
>or animated
that's it, i'm a radical leftist now. there is no way this passes(yet) but the fact that someone even tried this is honestly maddening

>>542441812
>In just 3 years, gachafags went from bikinis being a-okay to rioting over bunny suits. And now mihoyo is super reluctant to do anything lewd to its characters, to the point of showing off bare feet is supposed to be big fanservice now.
I did know about this story, except for this last detail. Shame how Mihoyo was once based and fell to normalfags and their demands. Going mainstream is never a good thing.

>>542442097
>Blue Archive has avoided most of that because the normalfag-adjacents could never get a foothold, in large part because the fandom gatekeeps by being absolutely, shamelessly horny for lolis.
Wtf gachafags being based?
Maybe I should play Blue Archive next.

Take a gamble, will the next Neptunia game balance magic users so that they aren't uber broken like they somehow always end up being?

>>542446708
Americans are fucked, man.

>>542448185
better question is if rom will once again be the god of destruction
>best character in zombies
>best character in SVS
>attempted nerf and STILL best character in gamemaker(sawblades carry)
ignore 4go

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>>542447160
Is it any wonder why libs coopted gaming and most culture period when this is their only established political opposition in America? How are you supposed to push back against shit like Sony #MeToo'ing your weeb games when opposing them puts you in the same camp as these castrated televangelists? More radical RWers often call the Republican party controlled opposition, and though probably not for the same reasons, I can see why. Everything Republitards do just seems to ultimately benefit their supposed enemies. This will just hand Democrats and their supporters an effective monopoly over erotic content and anyone interested in it, and thus the right to control it as they please, because they can just point to Republicans pushing shit like this and say "you really wanna deal with THAT guy again?" when they start doubling down on shit like gay bear sex and mocapped transbian doggystyle again (Senran Kagura will still be banned because it's for "FUCKING WHITE MALES!")

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>>542448185
All they really have to do is not do like VII and give Rom and Ram an effective monopoly over magic because everyone else's "magic" attacks are 50/50 split or worse between magic/elemental damage and physical, non-elemental damage. Just make it like the Re;Birth games where attacks are either magical or physical and element is independent of that, instead of elemental attacks being magic by default and thus making it so 90% of characters effectively don't have magic or elemental options.

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I LOVE BLACK HEART. I LOVE THE WAY SHE TALKS. I LOVE HER JAPANESE VOICE AND HER ENGLISH VOICE. I LOVE THE WAY SHE SAYS SHE HAS TO BE ONE DOING EVERYTHING. I LOVE HER REAL NAME WHICH IS NOIRE WHICH IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE I ALWAYS FEEL NO IRE WHEN I HEAR HER. I LOVE THE WAY HER CLEARLY SOFT AND SILKY WHITE HAIR FLOWS. I LOVE THAT SHE'S 160 CM WHICH IS IMAGINE TIER BECAUSE I AM WAY TALLER THAN HER. I LOVE THAT SHE USES SWORDS BECAUSE IT IS MY FAVORITE WEAPON TO USE IN RPG GAMES. I LOVE THAT SHE CARRIES THE TEAM WITH GOOD ALL ROUND STATS. I LOVE THAT SHE TRUSTS ME ENOUGH TO HELP HER IN HER GAME WHEN SHE LOST ALL HER FRIENDS. HER SWORD IS REALLY NICELY DESIGNED IN HOW SIMPLE IT IS AND IT COMPLIMENTS HER NICE ELEGANT FIGURE. SHE HAS PERFECTLY SIZED HIPS AND BREASTS FOR HER FRAME. AS SHE WEIGHS 45KG SHE IS PRETTY LIGHT WHICH WOULD MAKE CARRYING HER TO A COMFORTABLE PLACE EASY WHEN SHE GETS TIRED FROM WORK. NOIRE GETS ALONG WELL WITH NEPTUNE WHICH IS NICE. I LOVE THAT SHE IS FRIENDS WITH BLANC AND VERT. I LOVE THAT SHE LIES ABOUT BEING OVERWORKED BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT THE OTHERS TO WORRY ABOUT HER BUT WE ALL KNOW WE HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY. I LOVE THE EAGERNESS SHE HAS WHEN DRAGGING ME AROUND AND SPENDING THE DAY WITH HER. I LOVE THAT EVEN THOUGH SHE SAYS MEAN THINGS SHE CARES ABOUT HER FRIENDS.

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>>542448567
well on the plus side mtf trannies are fucking degenerate as hell cuz they are all addicted to anime so maybe they'll push far enough that ecchi becomes allowed again, they already have gay sex and bear sex on home consoles all we need is a fucking MAP to somehow gain ground and rom lewds will become protected speech

i cannot believe that this is the best case scenario, just cuz at least its just normies mutilating themselves instead of christian nationalists jailing everyone for liking anime

maybe nep can get away with more ecchi if they collab with FATE and put astolfo in, maybe itll placate the masses. i know onimai got away with flashing soft supple child ass every episode on fucking NETFLIX because it's "trans"(it is not. it is borderline a parody of them because of how fucked up and degenerate it isand i love it)

also this screencap was a BITCH to get

>>542450525
>didn't apply spoiler text
fuck this website

>>542450525
>well on the plus side mtf trannies are...
this is, in fact, happening to some degree. but the problem is that teenager-early adult trannies are so widely accepted as women in online spaces, that they end up conforming the standard woman politics. i don't really know if this will be upset, i think maybe women should be meaner and less accepting of trannies, that might help.
>(it is not. it is borderline a parody of them because of how fucked up and degenerate it isand i love it)
everyone disagrees with you greatly, almost any slightly degenerate tranny has a mahiro pfp. not saying you're a tranny or whatever though.

>>542432143
Too bad Blanc also abandoned the otakus too. She could have been the hero we all needed.

>>542451321
highly unlikely there's any alternate dimension like that, not for the "family friendly" toy company turned games company nintendo. sorry blanc

>>542451045
i can guarantee you if the normies knew what happened in that anime every last one of those people would be ostracized overnight.

>>542446224
None of these companies can be trusted as long as trannies exist and the world keeps trying to push their political agenda on everything we know.

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>100 posts of Blancfag bitching about stupid shit again

>>542451612
oh absolutely

>>542451481
>All of that promising with the Switch and opposition to Sony was just for cheap publicity and a quick cash grab from the remaining otakus

>>542452125
tbf i think it was the japanese side doing that and then the americans swooped in and fucked it all up stateside before japan then following suit. still makes me MAD that a fucking danganronpa spinoff gets censored cuz i know damn well those games didnt go that far

>>542433426
Fair enough. What is preventing you from emulation if you do not mind me asking?

>>542434013
Your friend is an idiot. Even if it is only the one at the start of the game I am surprised the Neptune image did not filter him. Best that he left.

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>>542450525
I don't like gender bender in general, but unlike some rightoids, I don't consider things like Onimai and Gonna be the Twintail in the same class as shit like Veilguard and Concord. They existed before trannyism really took off, and while yes, they are easy vectors for them to latch on and project themselves too, I think these people are being deranged when they put them in the same class as obvious troon propaganda like the worst of western AAAshit and a lot of indieshit. At worst, it's a lesser concern, but the 'party and similar groups use them to justify their hatred of all anime despite gender bender shit being a minor subgenre at best.
>well on the plus side mtf trannies are fucking degenerate as hell cuz they are all addicted to anime so maybe they'll push far enough that ecchi becomes allowed again
Don't bet on this, they all cheered when ecchi games were banned from consoles because they're all from the same stock that considers all "objectification" of women as harmful and leading to rape. At best, they'll just make space for their indie garbage again while "heckin cis male chudshit" like ecchi games are left out to dry. None of these people even gave a single fuck about the payment processors gutting Japanese sites until they came for their itch.io shit, and even then it lasted for a few months until they turned out defending the Bocchi the Rock screenwriter admitting to censoring the anime for feminist-related reasons.
Ultimately, they just hate you, they hate the idea of you having spaces for yourself, especially ones where they're not welcome, and their deeply held desire is to tear down everything you enjoy to remold it in their image, all while laughing at you as they tell you it's no longer yours. I have long accepted that there is no possibility of coexistence, they must be neutralized completely for the things I enjoy to continue existing as they are.

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These are your new villains for the upcoming game, please say something nice about them.

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>>542452258
>tbf i think it was the japanese side
It was straight from president Furukawa's mouth in 2019 during an investor meeting.

>>542453009
They provided me with years of entertainment. I certainly do not want to treat them as villains.

>>542453224
I think he means the Yanks made the Japs go back on this.

evil neps

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>>542453009
>conveniently leaving out Vert

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>>542453372
That, I can see. As I said, Nintendo doubling down on this shit neatly coincides with a transfer of staff from SIE to NoA in 2022/2023.

>>542452678
i guess, i'm not sure that all of them cheered for censoring ecchi because im p sure that the tranny group is actually composed of a ton of different subgroups based on what convinced them to be mentally ill. that's why i specified mtf because i personally envision them as being the most approving of ecchi due to anime potentially influencing them, so i guess it just depends on which way the movement as a whole goes. no matter what they're a force to be reconned with, which is why im particularly interested into how onimai somehow got onto fucking netflix despite the entire premise from top to bottom being inherently fetishistic despite it's presentation. i say "collab with astolfo" in jest, but throwing them a bone may well actually work considering that evidently you can be as degenerate as you want as long as it's for the "right side". i mean cmon, they got explicit lolicon onto netflix solely because the main protag is technically mtf. maybe if rom said she was a boy sony would let her run around topless on screen to "defy the patriarchy and double standards", idunno.

>>542453819
Vert is irrelevant and will continue to remain irrelevant. Minor one arc antagonist at best.

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>>542454086
The problem is that all that does is reinforce that nothing can just be for straight males or otakus any more, it either has to pander to a specific "protected" group, or it has to be sanitized globohomo "wider audience" slop. Series like Senran Kagura, Gal*Gun and Genkai Tokki were great because they were absolutely shameless about being by otakus, for (straight male) otakus. In the paradigm you describe, that can no longer happen and straight males are effectively discarded as a demographic, taken as granted with any pandering being incidental at best.

>>542454058
So if all the problematic staff went to NoA, does that mean SIE will heal?

>>542454698
that may happen, yeah. i was hoping that the masses could get desensitized to the lewder aspects of anime and so everyone would benefit, but you may be right that there may simply be double standards in place in the future, much like how baldur's gate can get away with so much worse than neptunia can.

>>542452678
Trusting trannies to save anime is just gonna make everything more pozzed. Like you said, they hate actual otakus, so it's only going to benefit trannies and normalfags but not us.
It already happened with loli. Lolis got banned everywhere, but oh look, you can still sell shotas in our store, because it's totally ok when an adult woman does the "rape", amirite?
My prediction is they'll ban female ecchi entirely but the shota shit, the yaoi shit, the femboy shit all gonna stay legal. That anon is being stupid.

>I don't consider things like Onimai and Gonna be the Twintail in the same class as shit like Veilguard and Concord.
I agree with this, but also, let's be real, that kind of gay shit like Astolfo or femboys were what fueled all this tranny movement to begin with.

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>>542457651
>that kind of gay shit like Astolfo or femboys were what fueled all this tranny movement to begin with.
I don't think so, as I said, this existed before transgenderism was even really known let alone went mainstream. There's no doubt they use them as vectors, but Bridget was just a femboy with a still clearly defined male identity before trannies latched onto him (and Guilty Gear in general). Same for Vivian from Paper Mario. From my memory, trannyism was quickly and obviously astroturfed into the mainstream in the mid 10s after Bruce Jenner castrated himself, it had little to do with anime, and it came very quickly after gay marriage was legalized in America via judicial fiat.

>>542457651
i'm not saying that trannies would save anime, just that they're more useful than the feminists and the christians and most of the dominant political groups. onimai somehow managed to get blatant lolicon onto netflix despite most if it's perversion having nothing to do with it's gender bender gimmick, i am terrified and excited at the prospect of ecchi devs/animators abusing this to push forward whatever the fuck they want under the veil of progressivism when it's really just their thinly veiled fetish. just saying, flash mahiro's ass on the screen enough times and eventually people are gonna get used to seeing it. normalize the ecchi and people'll stop noticing it.

>>542459208
funnily enough i don't think they latched onto guilty gear in general, i notice on reddit people bitch about everybody in the bridget sub being "fans" of the character without playing the game or engaging in any meaningful media featuring him. p sure that's why he's so prominent in the anime, actually.

>>542451861
SeGAYmi. Another victim of iF's lesbian advances.

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>>542459451
I reassert what I said earlier about how shitty this is for straight men and non-leftist otakus. It basically just leads to a world where you need the LGBT BIPOC folx permission to make anime fanservice or to enjoy anime girl lewds as a straight male. I enjoy anime and Japanese games specifically BECAUSE they're one of the last spaces that can cater openly and unapologetically to straight males like me. Losing that for what you describe would be such a disgusting humiliation ritual that I would literally rather the religious conservacucks just nuke it all with hellfire before it gets to that. I am so fucking pissed and sick of losing every last tiny little space for myself and people like me while these goddamned subhumans get the whole fucking world bending over backwards to serve their whims. If I can't have Neptunia, Senran Kagura and Mahoako made for me and my kind, why should they have Onimai and Baldur's Gate? I can't even have something like Rune Factory any more without them dipping their slimy hands into it. Give me my unapologetic fanservice for straight men and otakus back, OR FUCK YOU, NO ONE GETS IT!

>>542461597
I wanna fuck Blanc.

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>>542461597
i get where you're coming from but i actually want to keep neptunia and hopefully go back to ecchi, the 3 major cultural players rn seem to be the LGGBBDTTQQUIAAAAPPP2SNBGVGQGNC+, the feminists, and the christians, and only one of them is degenerate enough that they might take a glance at our shit and not notice because what they were looking at was already way worse.

>>542452660
i kind of just don't like emulating 3ds games. ds games i'm a little bit more comfortable with but it's kind of gross feeling.
>>542452678
you're wrong, there are multiple different factions within trannies. the insane perverted trannies who love lolis and futa and fanservice and rape and whatever else are separate from the prude trannies that just hate you, and there's a considerable amount of the former in reality, they just don't really go on twitter anymore because it's a terrible website full of people that hate them on either side.
you're being gaslit by a manufactured culture war that largely targeted young adults and late teens in attempt to drive a stake between the left and right of america to the point that they can control all of us, don't fall for it and just do your best to educate everyone you meet of your values and convince them of such, while being as open as you can to theirs.
>>542461597
i think you have to settle down. "all ecchi should die because i feel embarrassed" is retarded, stop being retarded.

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>>542461597
also you bring up onimai and baldur's gate, baldur's gate is a game for fags that marketed itself off of being able to fuck a bear, onimai actually helps us kinda because even if it looks like propaganda at first glance it literally never once brings up "gender identity" in any serious context pass mahiro wanting his dick back so he can jerk off. that show's more focused on mahiro trying not to literally piss himself than anything pertaining to actual transgender ideology. that's the kinda stuff i'm advocating for because it goes under the guise of progressivism when it's really just a thinly-veiled fetish and ends up normalizing this pervy shit and honestly making us look pretty tame, which ultimately helps because the biggest enemy of the otaku is the normie getting the ick. i say desensitize them with degeneracy until they look at rom getting molested by a tentacle and say "hm, i've seen worse".

picrel is an actual titlecard from the show btw

>>542464093
i mean there is some tranny shit in it it's just not stated directly as such, there's stuff where mahiro explores his femininity and stuff like that, but yeah it's largely porn.

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>>542463295
I don't want to keep Neptunia if it's just going to become as gay and pozzed as the rest of the industry because apparently nothing can just exist without the approval of the LGBTBIPOC commissar. I would rather it die with its dignity and identity intact like Senran Kagura did. The idea of having to get a tranny's approval for something that's supposed to be for people like me, for us, angers and disgusts me on a very deep level.

>>542464297
except onimai isn't gay and pozzed, it's a hentai plotline given a "serious" anime that's mostly about lolis and peeing. you need to be serious.

>>542464214
mihari speculates that the drug directly alters his tastes and later suspects that it outright makes him retarded and that's why he gets along with middle school girls so well, mahiro has no femininity he just likes the perks of being a loli.
>>542464297
the tranny trojan horse is only the first phase of the plan, once the masses are desensitized there will be no more need to throw them a bone. not that it even needs to be neptunia, could be anything that manages to normalize ecchi

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>>542463784
>i think you have to settle down. "all ecchi should die because i feel embarrassed" is retarded, stop being retarded.
We lost Dead or Alive because feminists declared it "rape culture"
We lost Senran Kagura and ecchi games because muh #MeToo
The entire legacy journalist all collectively defended a whore who let five men run a train on her for positive reviews because gamers dared to point it out.
Since then, the legacy gaming audience has been steadily displaced from everywhere by a mass of brown leftoid consoomtards.
Mass Effect Andromeda, Veilguard and Concord were just open fuck-yous to non-fagged gamers.
You can't have romance options in any JRPG any more without having to share it with some fags and fujos.
The people that do this and support are well aware you're not happy over it, and they think it's funny.
I've watched nearly every franchise I used to enjoy either die or become gay and lame since 2020, all being helmed and cheered by the same group of people.
And you equate the anger I feel at being displaced from everywhere I used to belong, both in hobbies and in real life, to "embarrassment"? You fucking NIGGER! This is pure, white-hot rage that I feel! No matter WHAT you fuckers say, there IS a culture war happening, it IS affecting everything I once enjoyed, shit like Senran Kagura was not political until SOMEONE made it political by deplatforming it for obvious political reasons! You can't put this genie back in the bottle now, there will be no parlay or truces. For the sake of me, my kind, and the culture we fostered and protected that you laid siege to, you must fucking die! Nothing you say can change my mind, the time for negotiations was a decade ago. Only war now! If you won't let my culture and spaces exist, I'll make sure yours can't either. Then we'll be equal!

>>542465613
you can't win a "culture war" with violence, don't be retarded. there has to be another way or there is no way at all, and it's in all of our best interest's to not attempt to accelerate things further. stuff like onimai is huge wins, and like the other guy says we should be encouraging this as it will provide more support for non-queer ecchi. stop being a retard, i don't care if you're mad, i care about series i like getting to continue.

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I've tried running. I ran to Japan when the western gaming industry became a DEI niggerfaggot fiesta. I ran to more and more niche subgenres when they came for Japanese games. Eventually I couldn't even count on Nintendo to keep the pozz out of their games, so I retreated to the nichest subgenre of all; ecchi games made by shameless otaku developers for straight men, by straight men. Where cuteness is law, surely the ugliness of the outside could never find me, right? I was partially right, they couldn't pozz these games, so they just opted to kill them instead. First Sony, then Valve and Microsoft, and then I couldn't even count on my once beloved Nintendo to keep them safe. It's like a fucking smack in the face. It's like they were telling me "No matter where you run, we WILL find you". I cannot escape the culture war. No one can. So that just leaves one option, and that is to stand and oppose the ones taking everything away. And so here I am, you goddamned assholes! In this world that you created, there is no more room for neutrality and fencesitters. It's take a side or be cast aside, and I know what side I'm on.

>>542466283
now i see why the other anons call you a schizo lmao

This blancfag gonna start "Blanc's Book Squad" soon

>>542465613
anon you do remember that both political parties are by and large working against you right
there is no retribution, no payback. if you send the magatards to stomp the feminists then they'll come after you next with this shit>>542446708
, if you go for the feminists instead they will deplatform every conservative before moving on to you. you're fighting against the normies when there will never be an end to the normies. the only real question is what variety and how treat you. ultimately the only option to be left alone is to either slip under their radar completely a la dlsite or attain some tolerance from them by virtue of the culture around you either not looking down upon ecchi or simply being so desensitized to even notice.

and there's no graceful end. senran kagura was killed like a dog because it had an exclusivity deal with playstation when playstation was being so obtuse as to ensure they could never release. that's why they never put a mainline on a different system. if neptunia dies then there will simply be nothing left, they will not notice because there is endless slop to entertain them. what'll be left for us, the dozen or so h-rpgs that are worth playing?

>>542466628
about the senran kagura stuff, is it really impossible for them to make any of it again ever? what's the deal with marvelous right now? is anything happening there at all or are they really just dead?

>>542466514
Like a chihuahua, he's all bark and no bite, I wouldn't worry about him.

>>542467029
i'm moreso worried for him, that amount of stress and isolation isn't good for someone mentally, it can lead to brain damage at worst even. i wouldn't want anyone who likes ecchi games to feel this bad, but i guess what can you do. also ever having worshipped nintendo is absolutely insane, they've always been a family friendly company and acceptance of ecchi games has always been fleeting for them

>>542466909
beats fucking me, there were unused assets within the pinball game from peachy beachy splashu that indicate they may have been considering porting it to switch. i dont remember the specifics but i distinctly remember that they actually had an exclusivity deal with playstation but the demands from the censors were ensuring they could not release the game the way they were developing it. i'd wager that they did the switch ports to see if people might be willing to switch(heh), ultimately gave up on that, and then went the gacha route which evidently served them pretty well until now. i doubt the exclusivity deal was permanent but the damage was done, the momentum was killed and senran kagura is effectively a dead franchise.
>>542467165
tbf they were good for the switch 1 and senran kagura literally started on the 3ds so they had a good record for a while there

>>542467236
i see, i hope it someday revives.
also, that's really just incidental. nintendo has never ever been pro-otaku, the closest we ever got to a pro-otaku company was psp and vita era sony, as the psp and vita are literally otaku consoles, with otaku games and ecchi galore. nintendo never offered that, the only reason 3ds and switch had these things is because nintendo was experimenting with allowing more games on their consoles, and there's a lot of random shit on 3ds and switch because of that. they let it stay there because everything was there and they didn't get pushback yet, they didn't *do* anything for otakus ever, they just *allowed* them there, they never *invited* them, they never *designed* for them. and now that there's pushback, they've immediately gone gigaprude and purged everything they can

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>>542464585
I already said that I don't like gender bender shit. If you can't have fanservice without gender bender shit, I'm slamming the "No Deal" button. I feel the same way whenever someone suggests that Gal*Gun can come back by being "Guy Gun", or that you can bring back fanservice by just removing all the lolis (already shown to be a lie anyway, shut the fuck up hagniggers!). No compromises with the enemy! Give me what I had before or you and I can both have nothing! This industry treats me like a second-class citizen for being a straight white male with straight male sexuality, and THAT is the root problem I want addressed.

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>>542467654
>they didn't *do* anything for otakus ever, they just *allowed* them there, they never *invited* them, they never *designed* for them
Why are you assuming it was any different for the Vita? Sony was never explicitly a pro-otaku company, either, and the moment feminists told them to jump, they said "how high?". Nintendo at least held out for a few years. The Vita was only an otaku console because every otaku developer back then already settled on Playstation as their platform of choice since PC was still mostly dead, Nintendo was still seen as the "children's company" and after a brief flirting with Xbox, they started getting rejected (OG Gal*Gun) and the Xbone was an unmitigated disaster.

>>542468085
how many times do we have to tell you "you don't need to watch your series get filled with tranny shit, just know that tranny ecchi is saving your chance of having an ecchi series at all" before you get it. are you being retarded on purpose? learn to read and stop being so dense

>>542468085
>Give me what I had before or you and I can both have nothing!
but they don't want what you had, they have other things they're interested in. there's no niche ecchi normie equivalent to senran kagura and neptunia, it's all AAA million dollar grossing baldurs gates or battlefields or whatever other normie stuff they're into. Something like Onimai is completely foreign to them, the average normie only watches Shonen at most because their tastes are so abysmal that they're legitimately entertained by slop made for 12 year olds. there's nothing to hit back at them for. that's why they censor us, it's because they look at our niche interests and they think they're stupid because they don't have them. they don't need cute anime girls to cheer them up, they're married with a wife and kids and have friends and family and are perfectly content with their sad, drab meaningless existence in the world. and so, what you are proposing is effectively, in trying to revenge neptunia, go after... what, grand theft auto? dragon ball? good luck.

and do remember that you truly have nothing to take from them, because they often arent even involved in the gaming scene. we engage in this escapism because the world is wretched, but they're out there having fun fucking each other in the ass or virtue signaling over how every man's head should be on a pike. there aren't even enough of us to make an alt-right death squad, the closest you'd get are the christian nationalists but the protestants and especially catholics wouldn't touch women and they'd find us horrendous. hence this>>542446708
look at this shit,
>whether real or animated.
>This includes literature, videos, and audio designed to sexually arouse or gratify.
>Erotic ASMR and similar auditory content fall under the ban.
they did their fucking research to make sure that there would be NO loopholes for anyone. they purposefully defined sexual acts and erotic content separately to catch all

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>>542468693
How many times do I need to tell you that I will not accept trannies controlling the destiny of a straight male otaku hobby?

>>542469156
"i refuse to take food from the hand that feeds me because it's a tranny hand even though it asks nothing in return and will not affect my hobby in any way besides positively by allowing it to exist further! because trannies!" you are as retarded as the average /pol/lack, you have 0 integrity as a human being and are worse than the normies you hate because of your retardation. grow the fuck up

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>>542469291
>i refuse to take food from the hand that feeds me because it's a tranny hand
By taking food from the tranny hand, you are bonding yourself in servitude. You are forfeiting all right to control your own spaces and hobbies because now you are dependent on the tranny and its approval. And so when you are nothing more than a subject, who do you think the gaming media and companies are going to pander to? You, who no longer controls even your own niche spaces, or the tranny who does? It's just another path to infinity faggots and endless humiliation for non-faggots. It's a devil's bargain.

>>542469156
they already do, this is why onimai gets on netflix while neptunia can't even get away with a pantyshot. the feminists shoot everything risque down unless it either aligns with their agenda or it aligns with the lgbt agenda, which somehow overrules them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMPjAGR75RA
this is what they put on netflix. the OP, anyways. it was temporary, but this was actually allowed onto the most popular streaming site in the west. we can't even get a pantyshot, sony demands light rays. whether you like it or not, we're controlled now. all along, actually; even back on the vita there was localization censorship, and there was always anime censorship because america was only ever controlled by christians, feminists, and transgenders.

>>542469883
you already do not control your own niche spaces, and you never will, and in the grand scheme of things, you never did. your low testosterone levels makes you obsessed with being on top and in control, yet you never were, you've always been subhuman to them and at the whims of them, and the best you can hope to do is slip by unnoticed as others have said, your pitiful little rebellion (which is all activism on 4chan anyway, so it matters even less) amounts to nothing. it's not a devil's bargain, you're a dumb chuunibyou, everything you're saying here is in your head and a dramatization of the actual events that occur in your pitiful life where you have to complain about trannies constantly because of your obsession with them being in control when you are not. you can do nothing and you will do nothing, so just continue screeching like an unintelligent ape about trannies if you will

You guys think maho could get the other candidates to say 67 or nah.

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>>542470142
>you have nothing, you are nothing, we took it all away from you, and we think it's funny
Yep, you're exactly the kind of spiteful faggot I described above. Fine then. Gaming isn't for me anymore, so it's your problem now. You fight the Christians, the feminists, the trannies (assuming you aren't one of them yourself), you defend the space you captured. I'm tired. I lost almost everything I used to enjoy out of gaming, the developers I liked either died or turned against me, I am now a second-class citizen in this industry. The old shit and the tiny amount of otaku games still coming out are basically all I have left. I have little investment in this shit any more, anyway, and I'm approaching my 30s. So fuck it! Enjoy your fucking empire of dirt on this Piss Earth!

>>542464093
Onimai is a magical world where all the mentally ill people would get exactly what they want though... a pill they take once every week or so which turns them biologically into a little girl. No surgery, no inverted penis, no needing to shave your beard every day, just magic little girl.

>>542471185
>you defend the space you captured
i've been here since like 2007 dude
look man i hear your plight but you need a reality check about this shit, that's all i'm attempting to give you. otaku will always be second-class citizens, rather, nerds in general, in ancient fucking times there were the equivalent of nerds and they were fucking under the ruling thumb of the vast majority that is normies. it pisses me off that you single out one group and complain about all of them instead of talk shit about normies in general, because lack of organization and the death of nuance is what keeps us down as a group. i don't think anything can be done either fucking way, but at the least you could have the integrity to know it's normies in general, instead of falling for (((their))) clever ploy at confusing the highly autistic nerd (You) that can't keep up with the "changing tides" when it's always just been us nerds getting raped by normies. just chill out a little dude, go play your games and look at blanc.

>>542471602
yeah and that's why people think it's a tranny anime when it's actual appeal is almost like a strange isekai where this absolute failure in life gets to take a second go at life as the opposite gender. it's funny, mahiro's life is objectively improved but it's not because he likes being a girl, it's because he has friends and connections and a social life that he never made the first time he went through high school. any dilemma about whether to stay a girl is purely as a material basis, because while he misses being a dude because he misses his penis(seriously), he doesn't want to give up the friendships he made because he knows theres no way he's maintaining them as a college aged man and so he stays loli. above all else though the show is blatant that this is an idealistic fantasy that is impossible in the real world; funnily enough, the main message you can take from the show is "don't be an autist in high school and for the love of god don't get addicted to videogames, because there aren't second chances like this"

>>542472205
this is pretty much the case. i often fantasize about mahiro deciding to get off the drug when his friends would be in adulthood and getting with nayuta, because nayuta knows about his secret and still likes him. i also like the idea of him staying as a girl but it's kind of cool to think of him as getitng with nayuta as just his real self, i've seen some fanart of them being romantic together with him as an adult and it's really hot.

>>542472484
the only acceptable reality is that him and momiji get married, he turns back into a dude, and momiji still tops even though she's like 2/3rds his height. mahiro still acts all dainty and gets princess carried, btw.

>>542472708
i also frequently think about this, i fucking love momiji so much its unreal.

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>>542472757
mahiro's in for some trouble if they get together

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>>542471713
You don't get it. I want the Vita era back, I want gaming for straight white males back. But at a minimum, I want to maintain the few little (semi) comfy spaces we have left, like this one, and the handful of developers left that consider us their main audience. The other poster thinks normalizing tranny-friendly ecchi will give "traditional" ecchi some sort of shield. What it will more likely do is give them even more leverage and encourage the handful of developers we have left to turn towards them instead, thus losing what little we have left. I am already having to scrape the fucking porn game barrel for anything that still caters to straight moe otaku, and I don't even like porn games.

>>542473930
they don't need more leverage, they can already censor whatever they feel like

>>542473930
this >>542474260
but also i do hear you and i understand, i want the vita era back too. and we can get there but it's not going to be without sacrifice dude, and if you can't even tolerate shit like onimai helping with ecchi (it's really not gonna make shit worse, you're crazy for that), you're not gonna survive to get there

Get with the times, old men. The good old days are gone.
Or just pretend you're still in the golden age and play your backlog of classic games instead. I'm sure there's plenty there.

>>542479445
ok son

Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Steam, Mastercard, Visa, are all just the middlemen. Puppets, the lot of them. If you want to fight, you bring the fight to those DEI groups controlling them instead. Even the government's a puppet these days.

>>542480097
if by dei groups you mean organizations like blackrock, sure, a lot of what is called "dei groups" though, like god forbid the actual "diversity" themselves, are just more tools and puppets.

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