Air blockstun is broken and the game is being developed by morons editionWiki for character guides and such (Under construction)https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/>Official linkhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/>How do I get in?Early Access doesn't require a code. Come hop on!>TWO ECKS KAY OH>>542244754
i need a good character for yasuo pointi don't like ahri's assists in neutrali miss having jinx rocket.. darius tackle.. blitz hook..
can we delete assist pushback
Lmao I was in the middle of making a thread too, what are the odds there were going to be 2 vi threads at the same time
>>542432628stop autopiloting your pressure!>>542432615warwick works nice tooyasuo works with everyone
>>542432615doesn't matter, pick whoever you want. yasuo will take care of the rest>>542432628it's cool how it absolutely buttfucks everyone in the game except the top tiers like yasuo, who will simply go into stance and use mist finer xxl to kill you for even thinking about it
>#17 The fuck, I missed them all?>>542246859lol that you qiqianon?
this game is based because they only listen to good players when it comes to balancing
>>542432719>>542432845>press uno button>get immediately pushed back to midscreen>now have to get back in vs zonersjoy
Look at the readsLook at the mushroomsHow does he do it>>542432934yeye whats up anon
>>542433408LITERALLY just call an assistIf they pushblock you, the assist will tag their assist and then you can just tag to your assist and start a semi-happybirthday blockstring that also puts their assist on an infinite cooldown until you drop it
>>542433408you can either hold their infinite pressure until you get hit, or push them away (still forced to block their next button) and then fight your way inawesome!
>>542433586also you really can't even fight back once you've push-blocked, because your assist is on a 5 second cooldown now and theirs is only on three. so they backdash 90 times in one second, wait for the assist, then call it, and now you're holding pressure with your assist on cooldown and them doing whatever they want to you lo
>>542433416Nice
hello blitzcrunkshere is an easy reset. it beats forward and back techs. Neutral tech escapes. You do need either assist or to have steam already to take advantage of it but I havent had anyone actually neutral tech it yet. The air command grab is manually timed but you just react to the tech flash.
>>542432713tf is this marvel ass cosmetic
scientists have come together to find the exact moment that a match becomes the most boring piece of shit you've ever played
>>542435176wtf u talkin about bruh 2x timewinder assist balanced af ong frfr
>>542434660It's an alt color of vi's neon strike skinI'm pretty sure it's supposed to be rogue reference
>>542434632I dont play ahri, ill have to find something elseAlso Blitzcrank is kinda disappointing me most of the times but then I scam people with his 2M or j.2H and enjoy him again. Absolutely busted moves
Can someone explain to me when am I able to combo the OTG in the corner after Darius S1 followup?I really don't understand how it works
>>542436603which s1 followup? the headbutt? or the grab?
>fighting a Teemo/Blitz who wasn't really doing anything advanced but zoned exceptionally well>beat them>angrylmao so that's how it feels being on the receiving end of teemo, huh
This guy was way the fuck better than me he had blockstrings and conversions and tag combos and shitBut I was in his head broI was hard reading his jump ins and I conditioned the fuck out of him to jump my Vi grab only to air grab that kid for the winIt's simply that shrimple
>beat the fuck out of an ekko/yasuo 2-0 with darius blitzgonna cumthis game feels so good when you're winning
>>542440194this has the same energy of sfv ryu forward dashing towards you
they need to disable handshake tag on 2x assist second assist call. you either get the 2x assist, or you get the handshake tag after the first assist call.
in all my time playing ggst i never thought i'd see something carry people harder than happy chaos and now 2xko is out and you can throw a timewinder with one button. life is truly incredible
How does warwick put his pants onAre they the same pants he had when he was vanderAnyone have the answer
>>542436886Meant to say S2, the bleed special
>lab a combo>go into game>hit the combo>get hit>get mixed>lose the round>hit them>drop the combo>lose the gameIAIAEIIEIEIEIEIEEIEEEEEE
>>542444882practice makes perfect :)
>>542444460oh, so the s2s2 followup has a sweet spot at the tip of darius' axe. if you hit too close with the handle part of his axe, they won't slump, but if you hit from the right distance, they will
How come this game doesnt have any DPs?Not that it really matters with the universal wakeup being in the game but seems weird that characters like Vi don't have one
>>542445241Vi has a DPShe and Warwick are the only ones with actual DPsDarius also has a 1f meterless reversal but it's armor based instead
>>542445241they don't want to have those kinds of movesmodern games have moved away from shoryukensthe best you'll have are conditional ones, like darius 3S2, warwick 2S2, vi super1
>>542445241darius' armor move used to be about as good as one but then they gutted it to the point where literally nobody uses it lol
Everyone talks about easy to kit out characters like assassins and tanks and bruisersGimme your real support champ picks and how they would play here, let's get crazier
>>542446118i dont rly like any support champs though
>>542445150Thanks, I thought it had to do with the number of hits
>>542446118bard>ramping basic attacks>need to collect meeps around the arena>more meeps = more blockstun>super is just bard ult that zhonyas the enemy for 10 seconds>lets the player either setup traps or run around for meeps>lets the player go for either timeouts or jank trap setups
>>542446118Idk about the whole kit but I always figured Sona could have a move where she just played music.In P4 and BBTAG Yukiko had this move, where she'd have an initial hitbox that knocked you away and you could then hold the button to heal herself.During the channel she was invul to projectiles too so it was a funny way to cheese out other zoners who'd have to run in to stop you.Shit was really quite funny and I think it'd fit into this game, maybe you could handshake tag Sona out and keep holding the heal button while you comboed someone, and heal a fuck ton.Probably hard to balance but it would make for some killer clips.
>>542446118Crystal Maiden and she plays like Sub Zero
>>542446118i dont know how they'd play but id like to see thresh, leona, rell or rakan personally. mostly because i'd be curious how they handle rakan and xayah on the latter
>>542447017 xayah and rakan would play like android 18
Wawa vs supernoon is actually a crazy setThese guys are feral and dumping buttons swinging at each otherNoon was just outclassed though, shame no reset
Anyone wanna duo with me real quick? I need this fucking token.
>>542445662Level 3 super is hardly a "DP". Nothing else is frame 1 invuln and that's what people mean by DP.
>>542446118>support champI played Poppy as support back in the day
>>542448283sure
>>542435795I imagine you can get a similar setup with anyone who can produce a wallbounce or groundbounce off of blitz's super 1. I checked Teemo, Darius, and Ekko and found setups with them. Vi I can see working if you can backdash out of the corner.
>>542448570Cool, I'm GeneralJingora#NA1.
>>542449098sent
Clayton absolutely destroying you trannies again love to see it. What happened to that one guy that ran away from Clayton last time? Is he still here lmfao. https://youtu.be/9bWReSs1Veo
>>542448430You know she doesn't countI hope that if she does get in we get the Noxus skin on release too
>>542450608Why's all the LoL splash arts on such a weird and shitty resolution even on official websites, where the fuck can I find LoL art at proper resolutions and qualities
>>542448975Basically, just extend the combo so much they will flip out of a launcher?
>>542446118TARIC niggaYou cast his super and then if you stay in the circle he makes on the ground for 5 seconds you get invul and hyperarmor for 3 seconds idk
>DBFZ>throw is L+M Yeah, DBFZ is better than this crap
>>542452848brother i have been looking at dbfz clipsthat new patch just killed the game harder than it ever was
It took a minute for it to click for me but the reason I'm liking this so much is it's just DNF Duel but tag. DNF Duel was a lot of fun when not fighting horseshit characters like Swift Master.
>>542454246i liked berserker
>>542449261Thanks again anon, this shit was driving me nuts.
>>542454354My jam was doing slam loops with Grappler. His air-to-ground chargeable grab was some of the most devious shit I've ever seen, it was so cool.
>>542446118It isn't even that hard to conceptualize a support in a tag game, make it so they set up buffs/debuffs that are designed to work/transfer to your tag partner.
I don't play League anymore but I can't stand Neeko's stupid face
>>542454246based kusoge enjoyer
>>542454354>Normally like vanguard in DFO>He's boring as fuck in the fighting game>Hate Berserker for being a boring to play braindead spec in DFO>He's fun as fuck in DNFAieee...
>>542456686>hating on vanguard in dnf duel
>>542455060It kind of is when they also need to do solo combos and blockstrings themselvesThey aren't just the two assistsIt's kind of hard to imagine what sona's highs or lows would look like
>>542456891He doesn't have any of his cool visual effects, none of his unstoppable juggernaut gimmick with his super armor and really fucking shit voicelines compared to the MMO
>>542457009i never played the original but the directional input combo thing he has is so sick and it should be in more fighting games
>Tekken gets a hot brown girl before 2xko doeswtf man
ekko and yasuo are so far ahead of the rest of the cast it's not even funny desuthey really need to stomp these chars' necks
>>542456920This fella but notes from her instrument hitbox/fighstick instead, you're welcome rito
>>542457226>tekken ruins a cool endboss character by bringing him back as a random female character that has nothing to do with himi hate this shit so much it's unreal
>>542457248Just play the brown colors
guys it's been two weeks and i still cannot get used to this garbage controls. I cannot develop the brain fingers connection, can't make the char do seamlessly what i want him to do.This is not my first fightan btw
>>542457226>>542457568Oops, wrong tag
>>542457149It's not horrible but I'm sure there were more fitting characters for that gimmick, his actual gimmicks would be (assuming we're acting like anything after 1st awakenings don't exist)Long range without being actual ranged0 fucking invul moves where everyone gets some, importantMoves that last long or have long recoveriesHowever, also the ability to literally just cancel every single of his moves into a move called Smash, there's a few versions of this that slightly move you but that part literally never matters as they practically hit the same area for the same damage which is where that gimmick comes from I guess. There are a bunch of cancels on every character in DFO really, but he's the only one alongside Striker that straight up doesn't care which move when cancelling but he and both Strikers play really differentlySuper armor on literally every single attack so you don't get fucked over for anything that won't instakill youThanks for coming to my TED Talk I like both DNF and DFO
>>542457737It is really weird to adapt to. I still keep accidentally hitting the tag button instead of S2.
damn lol there is literally unironically absolutely N O T H I N G you can do against teemo as certain characters
>>542457281Probably. But it is a bit harder for sona especially because she'd need to be playing the instrument the whole time for each and every normalYou can't just make her wave her arms at random and generate music notes like you can with Ahri or Asuka's magic
jabs in this game fucking suck. Too slow for abare
>>542457992every character can walk forwards and block thoughbeit
>>542435176good thing he's only in 99% of matches past emerald
>>542441723I think this game is trash but God damn when you hit the happy birthday with Darius on a Heavy starter and finish with a HEADLESS into DHC it's some dopamine shit speaking of, the little I've watched of dbfz seems like there's almost never a happy birthday in that game. anyone knows why?
>>542458272dw they're buffing him so he'll be in 100%
>>542458671mostly because you're ping ponging the characters around so the assist eventually falls out. also the assist calls in dbfz are pretty strong so they usually dont get hit since you're using them in a blockstring for mix or to extend a combo
why the fuck when you bait a burst they bounce on the wall in that weird ass angle? Makes it hard to actually convert. Can't they just make them slowly fall down like in gg?
>>542458245i think probably you should kill yourself irl
>>542458671what the other anon said, but also this game will just have more happy birthdays due to the nature of active tagthe characters need to stick around on the screen for you to tag to them unlike in dbfz where they just show up and then bail without even posing
they need to add a system to prevent tods, a hard cap like limit strike. This shit is dumb as hell
>>542446046I use it a lot when I try to input 3H
>>542459713yeah, even i mix up fireball and dp all the time. it's a shame because it's legitimately one of the worst moves in the game
>Warwick can hit you with three different types of mix-up at close-range and all of them lead to a high damaging comboWhy can he combo off his fuckin sweep if he has assist.
>>542459350
just gonna start one and doneing ekko faggots til they gut this character
>>542460875lol based
>>542459350ToDs in this game are totally fineit takes 2 touches through burst to kill a first character and then you can only ToD the second with like 5 bars of meter or fury, that's 4 touches minimum with practically no resources expended on the first kill. Similar to most other fighting games. If you watched evo, nobody is getting one touched for game
>>542459140teemo laugh emote
i'm so much fucking better at the game than you holy fucking shit (ignore my tardmashing trying to get fury to pop in neutral lol)
>>542458671feels fucking fantastic mangetting bursted and then catching both characters with raw headless. unf
>>542461547>ToDs in this game are totally fine
>>542463906YesIn any fighting game you can do 50% of someone's health if you dump all your resources into it, in this game you can kill 50% of someone's characters if you dump all your resources into it.
No one will ever convince me that being juggled for a minute straight and losing a character off a single medium button (if that, assuming it wasn't a 50/50 or worse) is fun or fine gameplayAnd what's worse, no one will ever convince me that juggling someone for a minute straight and killing one of their characters off a medium button is fun or fine gameplay.
>>542464335why not?yasuo does it off a light after all :)it's funny how this patch's headline was "yasuo shorter combos" and i just got hit by a 25 hit meterless solo yasuo combo a minute ago
>>542464335>you shouldn't be rewarded for managing your resources because....because me no likey combos!!!zzz
>>542464252Losing 50% and losing a character do not entail the same thingsThis is also ignoring any happy birthdays
you guys talk about tods like they happen all the time but when was the last time you got hit by an honest to god tod that killed one of your chars from full health?i only really have this happen when i get hit by fury
>>542465328If you get happy birthdayed you deserve it because you truly fucked up making a tactical blunder.
>>542465328True, but thats another factor to why the tod isn't as bad.You would always prefer to meter dump to two touch or get a fucked up mix on the first character, rather than save all your meter and potentially let the first one live just to ToD the second.Getting the first kill matters so much more than the first 50% of someones hp bar in SF, so saving enough resources for a ToD is really not common. There wasn'ta single ToD in the evo top 8 that I can remember, maybe not even in the top 32. There's a reason for that my nigga
>>542465597i did just basically tod someone within the first 10 secondsteemo would've died even if he was full health
>>542466252People say ahri is bad btw
>>542466252lol nice fuck teemo>>542466391everyone who plays this game is a fucking retard with no sense for whether or not a character is strongevery time you see someone call this game "well balanced" you must simply lol and keep scrolling
>>542466391Nobody does that
>>542466252ahri bnbs?
>>542466603"lol"
>>542466603
>>542466497yeah, he's the current problem i don't know how to solvei can't get in on a good teemo at all
>>542465689Happy birthdays are extremely common at all levels of play nigger
>>542466797How do hitboxes work in this game anyways? Do moves/specials have baked in iframes or situational iframes like invuln to air attacks?
>>542466910Did I say they were rare? No, I said if you call your assist at a shitty time where your opponent can scoop you and your tag into a combo you deserve to get bent over.
God, Braum's stupid charge is active for way too long
>>542466619i'm not fond of the '6S2 7S2 jS1' routes,because it's sketchy to do vs big bodies>2H j(MH ad H S2) dash super1 ...>MH 6S2 7S2 jS2 dash super1 ...>S1 S1 j(6S2 4S2 S1 ad H S2) super1 ...and the ender is always>super1 j(LL 6S2 H) slight backwalk S2 S2 2S1
>>542466984yeah, some moves are flagged with being invul vs certain hitboxeseg, every 2H invuls through attacks considered airborne
more complete version of that combo on teemo, but still easy to do
>>542467080The assists in this game stay on the screen like three times longer than any other assist based game
>>542466252is mh s1 s1 into s2 stuff new this patch, I dont remember that working when I was last labbing her before
>>542469164i believe so
>>542461547>If you watched evo, nobody is getting one touched for gameI'm not playing at EVO.What Riot does for League is that they balance for all levels in the game, from pros to shitters. If something is extremely cancer in Platinum solo queue but sees zero use in competitive, they will nerf it.And that's the correct thing to do.Hopefully they do the same here.
>>542463617That's some patience, I would have popped HEADLESS at 0:12~ when he popped Fury and went straight for a proj
>>542471101i didn't have meter til i hit the cleave lolshit was nightmarish, i've been playing darius/blitz because when the EA started i played a lot of ww/teemo and then moved to darius/ww when ranked came out. it was bothering me that ww was my most played character, so i took him off the team to pump darius' number a bit, but this was the result (and yes i winquit that shit without even thinking about it)
>>542471260>i didn't have meterShit you're right, I was looking at Teemo's bar.I wonder if it would have been good to use retreating guard to try and get some meter for HEADLESS but I imagine not
>>542471613i didn't even know that gave meter!!! what the fuck!!!that might indeed be a big help for future attempts at this matchup, if it gives a decent bit
>>542474873kek but also literally have not seen a single positive post about that shit
>maximillian is doing a live 2v2 duosI don't have three other friends to play 2xko with...
>>542475497if you're in na you've got at least one oomfie to duo with (me)
>>542468304neat route. I might be just fucking it up/imagining things but it feels like you get significantly more hitstun on the super1 when you hit it as soon as you hit the ground because I'm having to omit the (midscreen) dash to connect the jumping Ls. Feels weird.I already turned off the game but I just remembered they added a real frame meter so maybe I'll look at it tomorrow.
Another day, another 2xKami WON day
How the FUCK do I learn good combo routes with assists?Im too used to playing SF6 where combos are short and fairly easy to get. Vi beginner combo on the wiki is longer than probably any SF6 combo, and then throw the tag system on top and its like learning a different language
>>542448975oh I just realized.I use WW. I can just use the shoulder tackle to make the opponent crumple against the corner.thank you I just needed to sleep kek
>>542450372He's correct, this game is VERY amateurish. I wouldn't give a shit if this was some just no name indie game but yeah apparently mega super pros and fighting game veterans are working on it and shit like the yasuo teemo clip exist... Huh.I'm taking this game as one from a literal no-name amateur indie game and setting my expectations based on that, but the truth is that this game was 10 years in development and made by RIOT. So... yeahIt's fun and everything but some design choices are just questionable, see air blocking being broken. It's not even a meme, I hit so many people from air blocking because they just don't expect me to be giga plus or anything, it's just not common fighting game sense
Clayton, at the end of the day, these people moved forward with their lives onto better and happier things, while you are perpetually stuck in 2006, while you as a person have not changed since back then, still yapping about ''This person did this, these group of people did this'' which you are correct on some things, but at the same time, how long can you be a victim for?Will things ever change?
i'm really fucking tired of changing my ahri bnb every two daysNO, i'm gonna stick with what i have for now even if it's not optimalwasted too much time already
>>542483286>every single time someone blocks in the air it's a scramble because neither side is sure who actually has advantagegrim
"We are moving you to another lobby to improve your experience"What the hell does this mean? Did I lose too many times and I got Strive Tower fucked or something? I thought the whole point of the lobby ghost overlap shit was so that it didn't matter what lobby people were in. I was playing some good matches regardless of my opponent wininng 5/6 of them, I hadn't really fought Ekko before and I was trying to learn the timing to Warwick run through his projectiles and then I just get booted.
>>542488969>de-rankedkek
>>542489110I'm not even playing ranked I'm playing casual matches. If the way they're going to handle playing this game means I can't make a choice to play people of any skill level outside of private lobbies that might be enough for me to stop playing. I'll play ranked when I'm ready, I don't bother with that until I'm actually comfortable playing a fighting game and that usually takes time.
>>542489398>>542488969Didn't know it did this but sounds like total garbage for casual
>>542477526you're right that you have to do the super1 asap when doing S1 S1 stuff
>>542450372Stop writing about yourself in third personIt makes you look even more pathetic and mentally ill than you already are
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
ban numbersposting globally NOW
is DBFZ also backdash spam until assist comes up?
>>542493485now post the steam charts
>>542493542>AAA SAVE ME RIOT-SAMA THEY ARE POSTING THE NUMBERS AGAIN!!! AYEEE THE GAME ISN'T EVEN ON STEAM THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!
>>542493630You have no fucking idea. It's upback+assist or upback+superdash. Just watch Evo France grand finals. 2XKO will develop into the exact same but worse because air blocking is way stronger here and handshake tag makes taking any risk even scarier than DBFZ.
>>542493630Characters have quick single-button projectiles and low-hitting fullscreen 2Ms, so not really, it's more of an upback and spam assist type of game.
>>542493726>will developim in diamond and its already like this
>>542493884No anon you can't just say that without 2000 hours of webms to back it up. Just wait a month or two for every tournament to look that way and then we can admit that the current game design encourages overly safe neutral
>>542494025Don't be silly anon, it can't encourage something that doesn't exist.
>>542494185this is such a dumb meme, yes we get it you don't know how to play tag fighters
Everybody is constantly backdashing and playing full screen neutral but at the same time neutral doesn't exist
If you ain't wriggling back and forth whiffing medium forward, it ain't neutral boyo.
Nothing feels better beating a duo while playing juggernaut/sidekick.
>>542494448You've cracked the code anonWhen I get rushed down in my platinum games it's because it's a no neutral mickey gameWhen I get lamed out in my platinum games its because it's an overly safe neutral mickey game
>>542493726>>542494025>will developyou're the better player than the entire evo top 64 players we get it anonnone of them are playing overly safe and laming the game out because they just dont know how broken it is unlike you right?
2XKO should embrace its roots and reach the pure kusoge level.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5STPHDnJQ
>>542494025Reminder that I asked you for one single example and you couldn't provide Would probably be about a 5 second webm at that but w/e bro
>>542460459if youre playing vs warwick and not blocking low by default and ON REACTION blocking high then maybe you just dont have the gene.
>+11/-7its gonna take fucking forever to hit emerald.
>>542498995I want to see Astral vision in this game, imagine how hilariously broken it would be with the double assist or double handshake you could doCrossing my fingers Zed gets it
>>542484479>>542493121Clayton has moved on tho. I mean look at the guy, there's videos of him looking like he was on his death bed and could die any minute. Now he looks like a chad, has videos of him traveling in different countries, and still releases banger combo videos in his own time. Meanwhile his detractors still have never apologized and take credit for what ever he finds. It's the opposite.
>brown elementalist girls got into a fighting game in 2k25>its not this onefucked up
>picks jinx ekko yasuo or teemothanks ill be waiting out the timer actually
>>542457737just two more weeks bro
>>542503573>he says this posting vexwhat do you think your champ does the entire laning phase
>>542503573Don't play the game if you're just a whiny baby
>add negative penalty>fix the airblock frame data>double the assists cooldown at least>stop trying to appeal to retarded marvelfagsboom the game is fixed
>>542499085NTA but TNS has had multiple games time out during finals rounds
>jinxretards dont post the top 8 results when they dont agree with their narrativeOH NONONONO JINXDOWNPLAYERS?
>>542505801based based based based based
>>542506365>jinx in top 8 at Evo tooJinx sissies... Do we just suck?
>add sougenmu>add swords of revealing light>give yasuo and ekko devil triggers>add astral vision>put warwick into bloodrage mode all the time and let him mash his berserker barrageBOOM the game is fixed
>>542505801Negative Penalty is, and always has been, a shitty band-aid that only treats the symptom and not the root cause of the problem. While it would theoretically slightly improve the game, how about actually addressing the issue at hand? Slapping on new mechanics to fix the issues stemming from base gameplay is how we got into this mess in the first place, it's not going to get us out.
>jump instant overhead against a croucher>she crouches under the overheadBuff yasuo
Vi players, what combos have you been using?
Just walk forward and play neutral instead of begging for mechanics that will force the enemy to run into your buttons
>>542507440>easy combo5L 5M 5H 5H S2mash 2H j.L j.M j.H j.S j.S1 S1S>hard combowhatever the fuck people do with electrics but i haven't needed it and im in emerald
>hitting ekko timewinder assist to punish jinx fireballthats cool but likehow come the best counter to this ekko character is another ekko
>>542506365>Yasuo>Ekko>Ekko>Ekko+Yasuo>Ekko>Ekko>Yasuo>Yasuo>Entire top 8 is Ekko vs Yasuo or mirror>But nigga complains about Jinx
>>542507807>uhhh my character is bad and got over nerfed and is unplayable and is dogshit and im going to post all the top 8s that dont have any jinxes to prove it>uhhh she wonn??>FUCK move the goalposts NOW NOW NOW
The game has 11 characters right now AND it's a tag game, bro
Btw, evo grand finals was Yasuo vs Darius.That's what I see in all Youtube thumbnails.And Yasuo won.Nerf Yasuo, only him, and the game will be fine.
>>542507807honestly the fact that there was only one person playing both characters is surprising. And he didnt even winsurely if these two are both so broken double dipping would be like assembling the infinity stones no?
>>542509279They both do the same thing, so it's generally more beneficial to have a character that can supplement them in some way.
>game still randomly crashing after half a minuteDo I have to reinstall every time it happens?
>>542507440I do this one where I gatling to S1 pickup with L and then aircombo finishIt's seriously terrible I need to lab a new one
>emerald>queue for a minute>get a match>jinx selected>wait out timer>queue for a minute>get a match>ekko jinx selected>wait out timer>queue for a minute>get a match>yasuo teemo selected>wait out timer>queue for a minuteso actual fighting game characters just arent in this elo? or what happened to the braums, blitzcranks, illaois, darius, warwicks, viswhered they go
>>542510240>dodging in emeraldNgmi Lil bro
>>542510240woah dude is this you 10 years ago?holy shit you're like my celebrity man can you sign somethinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkapfBYIfc
>>542507142the only way to get out is to make a tag fighter that's not a real tag fighter like tokon is doing and they will never do it cause they will never stop hearing the cries of marvel fagswith negative penalty you can trick them to accept itsadly this game community is overridden by retarded mvc and dbfz players, two of the worst fighters ever made
>>542511559>DBFZ is le badtips fedora
>>542511340isnt justin wong the fat asian that got famous after getting his ass kicked on stream and is still riding that wave a decade later
>>542511340>this clip happens to anon>he then comes here and complains that zoning is too strong and negative penalty needs to be in the game so that he cant get zoned anymoreI understand these retards now
In real fighting games you can't block in the air at all. Why does this Mickey Mouse™ game reward you with plus frames for blocking in the air?
They should have just stood still while I charge my full screen neutral skip move, I can't believe it doesn't work
>>542511780trash ip for a fighting game with no character and playstyle variety (and i grew up with the manga/anime)trash tagkuso with only rushdown chars and without even burst
>>542510240Its piltover.....
>people complain that there are no real zoners>zoner gets added>meltdowns everywhereYou should have thought about what you asked for timmys
>>542507807The person crying about Jinx is a literal homosexual anon just ignore the shitter
>>542511851He's riding the wave of winning EVO more than any other player ever has, and he did in games that were actually competitive instead of NRS-slop.
So what's the optimal duo? Yasuo and?
I'm an Iron Darius using sidekick. How do I git gud?My current game plan is to use 5M pulse until I win. If my opponent is blocking, I use 5M > 5H > S1 > 5H. I struggle to remember to always dash, anti-air, and when to use assists. Btw, which assist is good for Darius? I’m currently using Illaoi because some guy on YouTube said she was easy (I want to play Double Down eventually and thought it wouldbe good to get accustomed to the caracter), and her corner super with Darius’s bleed is disgusting. I’ll work on adding dash jump block to my gameplay. It seems like a really strong approach tool.Am I on the right path?
>>542514529Keep crying about how your character got nerfed while she wins more tournaments than ever shitkid
>>542516641Sounds pretty good anonJust focus on learning each individual system mechanic and when you should use them and you'll improve steadilyThe moment you finally hit an anti-air or an airgrab on a jump spammer you'll never forget
>>542516641You sound like a future rank climber, you've got the mindset down. Once you got the approach stuff down, you can worry about the other stuff, combos don't matter if you can't get a hit on someone. Good luck friend
>>542516641you'll get hardstuck gold because Darius is unplayable tier badt. hardstuck gold 3 since closed beta with him
>>542516641You're mechanically mature for your rank...
why the fuck do knockdowns have so much hitstun? You can skd someone, run fullscreen and still have time to hit them otg with a full combo. Pretty fucking bullshit if you ask me
>>542516598There isn't a clear cut strongest team You pick either yas or ekko and then basically anybody else and it'll do well if you abuse the synergies
>>542516598yas ekko
>>542522794You're just fucking dogshit, Darius is in Top 8 TNS constantly. He's not a top 4 character but he's really good regardless.
>>542526274sounds like that dude is playing jugg thoughdarius isn't functional without an assist and there are some mus that he straight up doesn't get to play the game without one lol
>>542526470This is true for anyone playing juggjugg is not playable
>>542526470That's a juggernaut problem not a Darius problem
Is there a similar word to Oyakodon but with two sistersWould be a good name for the jinx vi team
>>542527746>>542528323i guess. you could MAYBE get by with it before the nerfs but they really went too far with those and i say that as a jugg hater(yasuo jugg is probably fine though lol)
I think I found a bug with Illaoi/Blitz. Since they killed my combo, I was trying to find something else.When I handshake tag Blitz in and combo straight into air command grab, with a tentacle set up, there will be a long ass hitstun that you can combo after.If you do any button before air command grab, they will flip out from the tentacle extension.The combo if anyone want to try:2M 5H 2S2 dash 5M 5H jump M H S1 land 5M 5H S2 (back assist) 5H S2 tag air command grab.
>>542528831Actual gold shitter shitposts. What a fucking idiot.
The Teemo mirror match might be the most hype shit fighting games have ever donehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtj-aqwxuI
>>542530058ft5?
>>542523373Thanks for the compliment. I played a lot of fighting games with my friends when I was a teenager, but I couldn’t convince my parents to buy PS Plus, so I never played online. I really enjoy watching FGC videos, stuff like Mr. Mixtape, Leon Massey, Core-A Gaming, SugarPunch, and TheoryFighter. I also watched two YouTube videos on how to get good specifically at 2XKO.The reason I’m in Iron is probably because I’m stubborn. During my placement matches, I rematched both players I fought. The first one I lost twice. The second I lost the first match, won the second, and lost the third. Also, I didn’t play any casual matches with Darius beforehand. One of the two videos said to jump straight into placements. Also also, I don’t think mechanically mature is the right term, maybe strategically fits better. If I wanted to, I could probably play without using Pulse. I played DNF and completed all but the last Grappler combo trial, that small run input fucked me up. But it would be a hassle to try learning everything at once. A mechanically mature player would be someone doing parries, push blocks, and dash blocks while still in Iron. I know players like that exist, but I’ve never tried doing it myself.Last thing guys. When do I use assist?
>>542530481try not to fall asleep challenge
>>542530741Assist has way too many usecases to list man.For Darius you probably mostly want to use assist to make your blockstrings true.But if you need to get in you can always do a trusty jump forwards call assist, if you need to get out you can do a trusty jump backwards call assist, you can attempt to jump over them call assist to make your crossup safe and get a sandwich going.You can active tag out to bait bursts or jump ins, you can active tag in to close the distance, shit's literally endless.A good idea is just to watch some pro pilot your team and see what they use their assist on. I was watching someone playing Teemo Ahri and they would call Teemo assist to extend the blockstring just a touch, ran in to extend the pressure with ahri S2, then reacted to the opponent jumping out and over the hitbox by active-tagging to Teemo and airgrabbing.
>"bro why dont you want to play"
>>542531780i would kill for one of my friends to get into fgs but if they played this team i seriously wouldn't run sets with them lol
>>542530741>I really enjoy watching FGC videos, stuff like Mr. Mixtape, Leon Massey, Core-A Gaming, SugarPunch, and TheoryFighter. I also watched two YouTube videos on how to get good specifically at 2XKO.Leon is a legit shitter and Core-A Gaming channel is just a retarded pseudNothing wrong with watching channels similar to those, just those two are pure garbage in reality>The reason I’m in Iron is probably because I’m stubborn. During my placement matches, I rematched both players I fought. Yeah you're supposed to rematch, it might not be actually beneficial for your placements but it's helpful for actual growth as you get a second or third chance to improve on stuff you definitely noticed in the former matches.> A mechanically mature player would be someone doing parries, push blocks, and dash blocks while still in Iron. To be fair both the pushblock and dash block aren't that great in this game and the applicable situations require some fore knowledge at this point till they tune the mechanics better. You're not missing out heavily at those ranks.Parry can be helpful though, if you know something slow is coming, especially while you're forced to block like in a blockstring (similar to Darius's or Blitz's pull moves for example) you can use stand parry and get a full combo.>AssistsDepends but generally to cover your ass. Illaoi's tentacle slam is a top tier screen control tool. The other move is also good for that but not as much, in return it generally lets you combo if they fuck up. You can also use it in pressure to make sure they sit the fuck down and take whatever you're dishing out, like if they try to jump out often to fill that gap, if you want to use a riskier move like applying bleed.
So how much do I have to do to get ranked to unlock? I already did about 10-15 casual sets and I still having hit level 3. I don't want to do anymore fucking casual.
>>542531854>>542531780You guys aren't welcome here for real, whiny baby shit like this is looked down upon and you can't normalize it here. It belongs on reddit at best.
>>542532294>stop being mean about my character choiceno <3
>>542531914>legit shitterAs a player or video maker?
What other tag games are there? like TRUE tag-games, that have done what you guys are talking about
>>542532929---->>>542511559
>>542532929well hxh is dogshit from day 1 so not that and then they just killed dbfz with a new patch that ruined the game after the previous patch had ruined the game putting it legit at "as bad as hxh" levels. then there's bbtag but that game is ass on an intrinsic level so you could pick up mvc2 but there's only 5 characters in that game or you could check out umvc3 but it hasn't got netcode.
>>542532929Skullgirls
>>542532772>As a player or video maker?Both, mostly the former
>>542533350hahahahah
>>542532929>that have done what you guys are talking aboutWhat are we talking about?
>>542534240"a tag game with short combos, good balance that isnt dominated by a handful of characters, that has neutral, where assists aren't too strong, and you don't get tod'd ever"
>>542534359The fact that you used actual quotes instead of greentext for your hallucination is impressive. Everyone wants different stuff. I think this game is actually quite good if they fix the air blocking issues.
>>542534826im funposting and making fun of the people who want those things in a tag game because no tag game has those things lol
>>542535164Dariusfag you have to lurk 3 years before posting hereMaybe r*ddit is more to your speed
>>542535310im sorry to say but you are talking to the wrong person re: amount of time wasted on this site lol
>>542530481>The second Chris G gets any meter on Ahri he uses it all to set up mushroomsDamn I forgot how this nigga used to play for a hot second there
>>542534359
>>542493485>oh okay but that was 7 hours ago not the peak neither in Europe or NA so it will be much better lat-
i'm vanquisher in strive and i got placed in silver. This game is fucking incomprehensible and there is no neutral
Actually, unironically, how are you supposed to deal with Teemo's mushroom superClose range or fullscreen it just feels unstoppable
>>542536154well the entire point of the move is that there's literally and unironically nothing you can do about it
>>542536061Brawwhalla has 307 and 10k on steam
>Play Teemo>My own bush makes me drop my combo because now it's burning and hitting peopleAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI hate being a shitter
>>542536284Brawhalla is also 11 years old and made by an actual small indie studio. 2XKO has just released and is made by one of the biggest gaming companies in the world.
>>542530741>>542516641yeah placements are kinda wonky, I feel like they should match you with 5 different people to get a better idea of your starting rank. I got placed in iron after going 1-4 rematching both times which was kinda demoralizing but it's really easy to climb to your "actual rank" in this game so don't worry about that>My current game plan is to use 5M pulse until I winGood plan, this is pretty much all I did on darius to get to emerald
>>542536509>yeah placements are kinda wonky, I feel like they should match you with 5 different people to get a better idea of your starting rank.Eh the matching isn't the real point, you doing it this early isThere's nothing real for it to base ranks on this quickly so you might've had a better experience waiting a week or two
>Thought Jinx/Teemo would be a cool pair because they are both zoners with traps>They have 0 synergyGod fucking damn it, this isn't working out the way I was expecting it to. Who do I put next to Teemo then
>>542536878ekko (2x timewinder) illaoi (2x tentacle slam) or yasuo (he's just busted as fuck lol)
One thing I enjoy about Teemo is that his traps actually don't fucking get clipped by that gook Yasuo's wall/stab, unlike Jinx.
>>542432429Ekko players should kill themselves. The world would be a better place.
this really is the league of legends of fighting games
>>542537673My time!
it's up (and it's more than evo france for most games)
how do i learn to enjoy tag figthers instead of getting mad at every interaction?
>>542538061>an invite-only event for a huge prize poolnoticing
>>542538130im about to make a pretty bold statement but i think it's okay to just not enjoy tag fighters and move on to something elsei tried to trick myself into enjoying sf6 for like 700 hrs but at the end of it all, all i can say is "that's legitimately one of the worst video games ever made"don't be like me
>>542530481The timmy fears this video of tagkino
>>542538840Timmy doesn't need to fear it as this is clearly suboptimal and weak, there's a reason why all the top 8s look the way they do
>>542538061Sajam isn't being paid by Riot btw
i still don't really like how the finishers make your character explode into dust. it's too mortal kombat.
>>542536284Strive has 238 and 1570 on steamDbfz 124 to 2134Grand blue 56 to 427Sf6 1.3k to 6984Tekken 1.7k to 4860
>>542536154Walk forward and block
>>542539679this is what they told you to do against goldlewis drone in strive btw and that game didn't have assist mix
>>542531330everyone when sf5
this game is actually dogshit because of the balance. the best characters have some of the most cancer zoning, or ridiculous conversion with OTG moves, or fucking both. and all of them benefit from assists because of that to convert into literally any combo from anywhere on the screen. playing one of those characters and then playing literally any other character is beyond night and day.
>>542540390The worst part is that the dev have favorites and they outright say so. Like an anon already said, Yasuo will be top tier until EOS.And this is nothing new, they did the same on LoL and LoR.
>>542540390unfortunately the game's cooked because the devs play favorites openly and without shameekko will be throwing 2x timewinder assist until the game dies
>>542540506>>542540579riot is going to do two things as a response. 1: nothing2: power crept the fuck out of everythingi don't know how you develop a game for like 7 years with a bazillion public and secret private alphas and sti8ll manage to bungle this shit. and its not even fun kusoge like mvc3. its legitimately more like fucking dnf duel level of shit.
>>542540792because the people that are helping balance the game feel the same way. sajam is a gargantuan ekkofag and he's one of the voices they listen to the most. i'm sure some other e-celeb is downplaying yasuo to them all day every day. remember the closed beta patchnotes literally said "yasuo's mix was too honest so we're buffing it."
>>542538061More than half of 2xko's twitch viewership is just Sajam rn. Imagine where it would be without the shilling.
>>542541232>2xko currently at 4.3k>sf6 currently at 1.4kuhhhhhhh still higher than sf6 i guess! :)
>>542537891I just need a duo queue up mode so I can yell at my computer for my partner being a shitter and the experience is complete
>>542534240I was asking about this >>542511559 , what other tag-game, fits what this dude yaps so much about, since i don't play tag-games
>>542541595they really do need that shit loli mostly meant in terms of how fucking long each set is. a single match can go 5 minutes if each round is long and it goes to game 3
>>542541404>LoL at 100k>Valorant at 40kI wonder what the player retention needs to be for Riot to keep it going?
>>5425414042xKami just too good, Slime figther can't keep up
>>542541794big boy moving em all by himself. very strong
I bet all you one and done fags spammed ff15, fucking losers
>>542542179>problem?
>>542542179but i've never even played final fantasy 15
>>542542179champs?
viewership is a very minor way to rate whether games are alive or dead. but riot games itself typically is helped more than any other game company in having a strong streaming and youtube fanbase. nearly every game that survived had a strong viewership base early on. the one that didnt, failed. lmao runeterra.
>>542446118 Sorry man, no one cares about supports. There aren't enough lesbian ones with bare feet for Riot Games waste artists time on them.
Here's your Storm function, bro
>>542535706>All versions of Minato, Adult Sasuke, Raikagenah
this game is so fucking shit it makes me sad
I somehow haven't faced many Ekkos. What does timewinder or whatever do and why does everyone hate it so much?
>>542544936Fast as fuck projectile that lingers on screen and freezes you for an eternity om hit, leading into a full combo into 8 way mix.
>>542544936Really niggaIt's the single strongest projectile in the game, it's on a rushdown nigga when there's two zoners and a keepout nigga in the game
>>542544795shit meant to post this in /sfg/
>>542539779>>542536154You can jump over it, if you're fast enough you can run into range and then back out and dodge it but thats very character dependent, if you grab the teemo you can invul through the mushroom explosion, it is pretty hard though
>>542545572what?
>>542544936He genuinely does take some amount of skill to do proper mix and combos so you won't see him that much below emerald.He just plays neutral in a very lame and tilting way that feels like it doesnt belong on a supposedly high skill character
So theres no bad characters in this game but there are still overpowered ones? Is that the current consensus?
>>542536154Call assist and let them eat it for youEven if your assist is dead Human shields always work
>>542546290
this game is so fucking CORNYmickey mouse ahh party masher
>Niggers acting like enchanters wouldn't work in a fighting gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMv21Q5IQPQ
>>542546226Ekko is busted because of one move, Yasuo is the Johnny function. Everyone else is good but worse than them. Redditards will never be okay as long as Ekko and Yasuo are playable.
>>542548027ekko has more mix than fucking i-no and kills in two touches lol, timewinder is not the only thing that makes him busted
retards seethe about yasuo all daymeanwhile i have no problem with himwhile illaoi is the niggerest masher faggot character i've seen in fighting games in a long time
>>542548607>ekko gets close>starts doing his shit and gets a hit on me>"welp. guess I gotta learn.">check what pros do>also get hit by his shithuh
>>542548728UUUHHHAAAAAHHHEMOTION!!!!!KEEP GOING!!!! *thud thud PAMPAM* *tentacle strangles you* *rape begins*
>>542548728thats because yasuo is the level 2 shitter filter (level 1 are the big bodies and/or scrub stompers like blitz and braum) because he has really good neutral, level 3 is getting put in a mixup for free because of illaoi
>>542548963and all levels bow down to the full screen ekko that has knowledge of his timewinder input
>>542548728>meanwhile i have no problem with himteam and rank?
I got to platinum 2 and started just jerking off to warwick knotting porn is this normal
>>542549542Who's getting knotted?
>>542549893me of course
>>542550026>your favs aren't in arcane>riot will NEVER buff themfeels bad man
>>542550171if you like braum and blitz then you just have bad taste
this game is really fun when no one knows how to do long combos and rancid mixups
>>542548963Yasuo and Ekko are badly designed. They're so stupid you can't nerf just one thing and call it a day. They'll stay broken.They zone better than zoners, play neutral better than neutral centric characters, mix you up better than mixup characters, do damage better than big bodies, offer support better than support characters that are bad on point, and so on.Supposedly they scrappd Katarina because they gave her everything. But the retarded devs forgot about Yasuo and Ekko.
>>542549980Then no, that's knot normal
>>542550382>every character but braum represented...
>>542547973>cast your ultimate life magic>fighting game pauses and becomes a dating sim speedrun>if you max out the relationship you win the set instantlysounds broken
>>542551404they forgot to buff him after he ruined the second alpha lab
uninstalled.this game is simply not a real fighting game
>>542550026
>>542551889these dudes can not resist downplaying their mains lol
>>542552016The second was a hypnotical list about super tag being removed, the first one is his actual listHe's maining Ahri/Teemo right now
>>542551614sounds similar to Rise in p4a with her rhythm game super except you dont win instantly
>>542551814meant to post this in /tekgen/
>>542551814Same, too much mickey mechanics in this party game, even by tag game standards.
>>542552357im fine with recoveries, im fine with fuses, but air blocking and a retarded comeback mechanic like fury? nah im out. people literally backdash superjump 24/7 and you cant antiair so the game boils down to blockstring>call assist>coinflip for gameits such a retarded ass game, its mvc3 level of stupid
>>542552857>you cant antiairnigga just airgrab them
>>542552945that worked so well against wawa
>>542552945upback is whats being talked about and you cannot airgrab vs upback
>>542493726do you know about that meme that goes like>thing: :(>thing, Japan: :Dit's like that but completely unironicallyi guess it is because DBFZ is a much more air based game (airdasher) while 2XKO is much more grounded which makes it look lame
>>542552857The existence of Fury alone is proof that the devs don't care about this game being respected like they pretended during pre-launch with those "unlock the fun" etc it was made from the ground up as a remedial casualoid first fighting game bait
>>542554072>unironically using "remedial"rog
>>542554072the fact they took xfactor from mvc3 and then went 'actually this isnt mickey enough lets make it so its also a burst, oh and its safe on block and onhit it gives a TOD'this game is so fucking stupid lmao
>>542553383Yes you can though the hitbox is fuckhuge
>ekko is not dripping he's token black guychrisg is going to get banned from events
>>542554346no, you can't
>>542553838meant for >>542493630
I quit too, maybe I'll try liking this game again once they add better characters and iron out these mechanics
>>542554561yes you can nigga I just did it against a teemo
>>542555048he was ass then lil bro j.h will stuff the living fuck out of an airgrab attempt every single time and then you're eating a combo
>>542554326It’s why you never let fanboys be in charge of anything. They have zero impulse control. I’m sure there’ll be a desperate attempt to completely change how all the game mechanics work and maybe make it 1v1 before the game gets EOS’d
>>542555048he either didnt superjump and didnt press anythinggo into training and try ngga
Whats the disadvantage in using autocombos? Seems to work out for a lot of players but I wanna know whats sacrificed by only having to hit one or two buttons repeatedly
>>542511340growing up is understanding Justin was in the wong here
>Unoptimal to play on pad or stick or normal hitbox (without 999 buttons) because of how many keybinds you need>If you play on keyboard the small keys are a pain in the ass unless you have tiny fingersWhat the fuck was this game made for
>>542556718>how many keybinds you needstop spreading this meme
Do you think 2xko would've worked better if they only allowed 1 player per character and you had to have a teammate to play? When I first heard about it that was the most hype thing to me, and then they bitched out and allowed 1 player to control both characters (or probably always planned it that way desu).
>>542556718Dude you need like 6 buttons max, everything else is just combinations of what you already have.L M HS1S2T
>>542555216>>542555497>hes upbacking so i cant anti air>hes j.Hing so i cant airgrabmake up ur mind nigga
>>542556493It's not as fun. That's a major part of it. If you don't like combos tag games aren't for you.
ebin :DDDD
NAbros, would you be interested in a tourney? wouldn't mind hosting one for a small cash prize
>>542558219as soon as they fix air blocking yes
>>542545164also has 0 recovery for whatever reasonif you try to jump over it you get AA'd lol
I might be dogshit but I won
>>542558436>vi/teemoholy bastion of honesty
>>542558219>for a small cash prizeI'd advise against that.Do it just for the fun.
>>542556493There is none.
>>542556493It does like 10-20% less damage iircAlso they're simple ass combos you could learn in like 10 minutes
>>542552016>The sodomite doesn't know who Chris G isFuck off retard, he's not a downplayer, he's a serious complainerHe complains about EVERYTHING
If I whiff another 5H I will off myself in real time.
>>542560060God I hate Darius and that stupid autocombo
>>542551889What makes Jinx so bad? In his eyes
>>542560060>>542560201Also, assist body block should be reduced holy fuck there's nothing more annoying than that.
My Vi kinda sick nasty noTell me otherwise
I'm getting turbo knowledge checked by this decent Braum I keep running into in rankedIf I try to poke him in neutral he either does shield assist and I die or he armors through my pokes and I also die, which makes me play overly passive in neutral and I get cornered and rushed downHow do I deal with this?
>>542433416This retarded iron level player doesn't realize he has a full screen super by the way and can make himself safe with warwick superassist
>>542561527actually he and I are emerald 1 elo
>>542452848>DBFZ is better than this crapWas*Currently the game is mickeymouse with the past few patches.
>>542457248>Only one pro out of several that uses Yasuo/EkkoYou're outing yourself a shitter, they're good obviously but support characters are invaluable that's why the top 2 are rarely seen together. Kill yourself.
>>542457568The brown Ahri with black hair is sex as fuckMight learn her just for it
>>542464335Tag games and anime games have done this for millenia dude go back to Dix.
>>542453242>>542562034Watching Twitter clips isn't the same as actually playing the game. DBFZ is in the best state it's ever been.
>>542475497Strangely enough I have zero Z E R O interest o play duos. I've played every fighting game ever solo, even smash. Unless you're super coordinated with your partner I don't see the point
Does this game have a single player mode? I can't find anything other than training
>skin available for unlocnk in the store>go to store>it isnt thereAm I doing something wrong here? Do they bot want my money?
>>542453242>that new patch just killed the game harder than it ever was>Game gets 2k player peaks on Steam Absolute retard.
>>542561464Unironically git gud. Forget about winning. Fighting him is a great opportunity to improve.
>>542561464time to lab lil nigga
I want to give this game another chance. I like Vi do any of the other characters play similar to her? I liked her rushdown
>>542560497Refer to the image that's replying for the actual listHe thinks the super tag is really strong but she just doesn't do anything that well and realistically none of the characters are actually horribly unplayable even lower on the list, it's just that the top 3 are too fucking dominating at their current states
>>542563958WW
>>542545593Where's frosty faustings
>>542551889>Chris downplaying Teemo and Ahri even post-buff Yea end this nigga.Ahri can go next to IllaoiRight underneath put Teemo, then DariusThen next tear Warwick Vi
>>542565157>WW>Last tier>Can't even list all the characters in the game when there's only 11 champsBruh tier post
>>542554945>iron out these mechanicsWhich mechanics aren't ironed out pray tell
I can’t believe KAMI6 mogged 2xissy like this……
>>542558436>Self-proclaimed dogshit>Buys $100 skinChecks out.
i don't think i will ever truly enjoy this game until they tone down these retarded long combos. I even get bored when i'm the one doing themit's just...filler, you always do the same optimal routes over and over
>>542562824its hard to understand how fun it is until you've played it but there really is something sick about it mangive it a try with a bro
Funny challenge for the Yasuo and Ekko downplayers: rank what you think are the best 13 teams in the game, and let's see how many of them doesn't have Yasuo or Ekko
>>542562813>DBFZ is in the best state it's ever beenYea dude I love my fullscreen trunks 2M and UIku teleports and ginyu shitflinging and being able to convert everywhere off anything and everyone always into 80% and nappa and gogetablue still best character in the game kill yourself
>>542565351I didn't say last tier, I'm only listing the ones I had objections with. Fill in the blanks nerd.
>>542565986>Yasuo and Ekko downplayersLiterally who
>>542565567Man most combos are not ToDs, those are rare. For standard combos they are not that long you must come from street fighter seriously.
>>542562034Just got off DBFZ after playing several hours. Game is literally amazing right now. Characters that needed buffs got them. I still like 2XKO more because superdash is and always was a dumb mechanic, but the air blocking issues that everyone keeps bringing up are really bad.
>>5425632433k player peaks anon, 2k right now!
>>542566953feels good to be a 2xkami chad
>>542566953Punk was literally always fucking terrible at the game and got embarrassed by people who are trash at traditional fighters. He doesn't get it.
>>542566780>superdash is and always was a dumb mechanicYea you don't play. No real dbfz player ever thought this and repeatedly refuted when casual jivers said this nonsense.
>>542565998Drink bleach you utter shitter. They literally nerfed trunks' 2m too. You can't convince me the days of snapback meta and gt goku on every team was a better state for the game than what we have now
Fuck the solo fuses.
>>542567245You're the minority. Everyone has thought neutral superdash is a dumb mechanic and there was huge hype when replacements like Roshi's came out. You're allowed to like it because it's an iconic part of the game but it's dumb and introduces random bullshit that doesn't belong in a competitive fighter.
>>542567230He made top 8 a few times thereHe made top 8 in MvC3, BBTAG and MvC I multiple times too
>>542568114Of course he did because he's godlike at traditional fighting games. Those fundamentals still apply a lot. But he's consistently never been among the best of the best because it's a different kind of game and he doesn't get it.
Yasuo and Ekko backdash spam playstyle wouldn't bother me as much if these characters didn't also have the best rushdown in the game at the same time
>>542457370oh but when they did it with reina everyone clapped
>>542569142Reina is just another Mishima kid when there's like 5-6 of them already
HOLY FUCKWe robbed this manThis guy got hit by my super assist mushroom exploding off the screen LMAO
>>542569261thats disingenuous, she was literally supposed to be anime girl heihachi until they brought him back
>>542569142chat he thinks i don't hate reinai mean i don't have strong feelings about her one way or another she's lame as fuck but almost everyone in tekken is so that's whatever
>>542559442hey for YOUR information i grew up watching him spam shit as morrigan in mvc3never watched him outside of tourney bc why would i actively seek that shit out, though, so i had no idea he was like that lol
>>542561332Porygon Z ass moment
>>542566780>superdash is and always was a dumb mechanicnigga it's fucking DRAGONBALL
>>542565567Honestly I actually love having longish combos in my gamesI think they help make the schizo speed of the game feel managable. When I was playing grubble I would get mentalboomed and owned if someone put a lot of pressure on me.I think it's just because there isn't any downtime to actually realize what you're getting hit by. So it was like a game where I felt slow as shit and then I would just get stuck in the corner and die without being able to do anythingWhen I get mixed in tuko I have like 4-8 seconds to think about how I got hit and usually I can block whatever it is the next time they try it. Obviously there's a limit to this, but I think the game stays pretty squarely within it, except for Yasuo
>people keep complaining about airblocking being so broken>I try jumping out of warwick's overhead and blocking it in the air>he's stupid plus and rapes mefuck you retards you dont know shit
>>542571076there needs to be a middle groundi think strive kinda nailed the right length, around 10 hits. This one goes a bit too long, especially with all the dumb otg pickups you can do
i fucking hate warwicki can tolerate long combos they are hard to do, this dumb mutt just does S2>S2>S2>S2 otg 2S2 S2>S2>S2>S2
>>542571261which overhead?>4S2just parry it its like frame 20 are you old or something>2S22H beats all options, and you can parry the 2S2.M
>>542571076so holding pressure in Granblue was too much for you but 2XKO pressure into mixups is fine?????I'm sorry but this makes no senseIt's like saying SF6 was too fast for you so you went to play a slower game like +R
>>542571337Meh even strive was too short for my tastesI love otging so I really can't complainGetting a shroom loop into the otg into the tag launcher just feels too sick >>542572136Yeah I just get like, overwhelmed easilyIf I have to make a lot of decisions in a short period of time then I get cancer.If I have time to think about what raped me then I can make the right choice given time. That's why this parry shit is so good for me in this game, I just need to rip that shit once and I'm chill
ive been keeping up with leddit, honeymoon's ending for the normies and shillsgame was getting heat so they went into ultra shill mode but it's becoming harder and harder for them to defend now, threads about backdash spam meta and yasuo/ekko keep popping up
why cant i super at the end of combos sometimes?
>>542571813Yeah I know what I'm SUPPOSED to do I was just mashing jump because 4chan told me it beat every option he could go for idk>>542572136Also I want to elaborate a bit, if I make a bad decision and eat a combo in grubble or SF I have to make another decision almost instantly, because I'm still sitting in the corner, and then if I get hit AGAIN it's just fucked for me I'm mentalboomed.If I make a bad decision and eat a combo in tuko I have 8 seconds to reflect upon how dumb whatever I got hit by is, and if I get hit AGAIN then I have like 16 seconds.So even though the thing I get hit with is like 3-4x more fucked up and cheap it's really only coming half or even less as often. If that doesn't make any sense to u that's fair but that's just how my brain works idk
>>542571337I think Granblue or Strive do it bestHowever, it's not what those games do right, it's what 2XKO does wrongIn those games the routes you have available and consequentially the length and damage of the combo will vary by your resources and your starter 2XKO feels like you're always just routing into the same optimal regardless of anything. At most what changes is if you have meter you go into super 3 instead of super 1
>>542573210the players here suck dick at the game there's a reason there is no lobbies (they either don't play or don't want to embarrass themselves)
>>542573270>regardless of anythingthey kinda fixed this with the meter changesGoing for limit strikes now is actually rewarding so having at least two combos one for damage and one for limit is pretty good.Also Teemo at least needs to know like 5 different combos. You need to freestyle that shit if the guy you're hitting flies over a mushroom all your routes get fried
does it show your winrate anywhere
>>542572537>the honeymoon phaseyou definetly didnt go on ledditThey were meltying about being too poor to buy the arcane skins for like 4 days straight bro what honeymoon
>>542465328>>542465689>>542466910This is the real reason why they should severely tone down damage.Let the TONS OF DAMAGE for when you hit that sweet happy birthday. the damage is going to feel more earned, it's going to feel better
>>542575152they already did severly tone down the damage you retard it was alpha lab 2 and it was DOGSHITThe damage is totally in line with how the game is made right now.The REAL issue you have with the game isn't the damage at all, it's with it being a round system which necessitates the high damage and fury being stupid enough that you would never choose to afk and surrender rounds.
>>542572618wdym
>>542538061apparently this isnt the only tourney he's doing this is just a duo-only onethis level of shilling has to be studied
>>542576906he has held sajam slam tournaments for SF6, T8... and 2XKObeyond parody I ain't even mad
>>542577053grubsisters...why does daddy sajam hate us...
>>542573331at work rn but ft5 in like an hr?
>>542577132yeah sure
is this a good combo for solo braum?
>>542577940You do like 50% before super and get your buff, of course it is
NA lobby time, lets see whos actually larping and who plays the gamelobby code is yc287vzd
>>542568818I want to play Ekko and plan on learning him (I'm gonna get that Arcane skin at some point in the future, however many years it takes) but I can't fucking imagine playing him or Yasuo like a bitch when they have everything
>>542578184ok that IGN's p good
>Teemo into Ekko>he tries to timewinder spam>I shit out two mushrooms and two rocks for every one he throws >they dont even break the mushrooms>eventually he just has to run at methis is so chillwhen you outlame Ekko it's really quite a fun matchup
>>542577132champs?
>>542577226>>542579161eating dinner rn on in like 20>>542580428i play darius/ww and darius/blitz
>>542579161omw>>542577226goin 2 the lobby
>hourglass girl>pear girl>stick girl>muscle girlnext: little girl
>>542556687kekk
>>542579161still going
This game has the most unsatisfying tech chases
game dead already? matchmaking takes way too long
is this the kog general?do you guys like KOG?
>>542584476what is kog
>>542583889still up?
>>542580527>>542581843i forgot mb down now though
>>542583891It's satisfying if you have a throw comboPlaying Ahri and getting almost nothing out of it feels pretty bad but doing a jinx boing otg is pretty nice
>>542585702>>542585841ill open a lobby but my comp bsods sometimes loljs88v4rd
>>542582541can't wait
>>542584118not for meNA gm
>>542585924ggs bro idk if you were typing after but i got stuck on the machine and couldn't do anything so i closed the lobby
>>542585924so im just confused manwarwick vi are both supposedly good characters but i feel like combined they lose to both archetypes in this game, being either gigantic range made safe with assists or projectiles made safe with assists. i dont see what i can even do on block with how tiny all my buttons are, while you can keep pressure with your 5M that keeps me on block even after death. then its just a fuckin slog trying to ever get in against zoners, and even WHEN i get in i need to read 4 different defensive options to STAY in for even a little bit, only to get mediocre damage until blood frenzy pops. i dont see the vision.i felt like i was doing better the more i was sitting full screen waiting for you to approach me. ggs, it at least helped me learn parries a bit better
>>542577127grub?he hasn't held one for fucking strive he's a giga Jew shill
>>542585667>>542584476I type "xkog" when Ctrl Fing this general in the log
Illaoi's j.M shouldn't hit cross-up, the fuck
>>542590718first off ggs. the matches were a lot closer than the final score made it look desu, easy enough for me to say but i do feel it's true even if they might have felt rough for youi find that warwick is somewhat middle of the pack, but his 5m is pretty big and should help you get in. you can do 5m>slide>call assist for combo, or you can do 5m>more if you want>dive for the overheadas far as dealing with my characters, yeah, you will generally do better when you play lame vs. darius, he is pretty slow and escapable and you can tag him with an assist when he's running in to try and start shitone thing i do see vi players a lot is to add a bunch of swaying back and forth at full screen. when you sway out, if you see me press a button to try and clip you you can sway back in and hit a buttonfor warwick/vi, there is actually a combo where you start vi's ground pound super and then tag to ww and spam his 2s2 which lets you build a ton of blood, and that might help you get blood pops more often. overall if you can find more routes that build blood with ww you'll be good on that i'm sureoverall i feel like you played super solid and good, you just need more time to get used to playing double down. you had me sweating for most of the matches we played and once you get a little more exp i'm pretty sure you will be cooking people like crazy>>542591721it's mad random, some chars have multiple crossups and some ONLY get a crossup on the universal one
>>542590718Darius is a schizo character designHe is straight up a zonerYou don't want to approach him with literally any character, even Yas because he will rape you with his privileged god buttonsHe just happens to also get zoned. Vi Ww is probably his best matchup because he is definitively the raper against both champs
>>542591850>>542590718also: another thing. if you pushblock the h in darius' lmh, then if i do 6s2 it'll whiff and you'll get a FAT fucking punish off of it. if i did 5s2 then you can't punish, but lmh>6s2(the quick vertical slash)>5s2 is a true blockstring, whereas lmh>5s2>5s2 you can parry the last hit
>tfw you start hitting the partial charges woohoo
>>542592712vi is actually really difficult for me. you basically have to completely play the game on her terms. if she decides you're not getting anywhere near her then you're not
>>542593858gj i always believed in you
Well at least the offline launcher works if I have memory leak crapAlso how cursed is juggernaut/sidekick jinx, I was playing against the cpu and getting my shit kicked in, and no assists felt really good to use
>>542594889that's cool at leastjugg/sidekick are generally meme tier but they're great for easing in and learning 1 character at a time
annoyed because now that i've been going back to darius/blitz, that blitz skin i wasn't even thinking about before is looking damn tasty
vi is so fucking awfulshe has stubby normals in a game where yasuo, darius and illaoi exist
>>542597912why are you pressing 5m when you can be pressing dash 5m or sway l
>>542597912I like her with Teemo thoughBeing stubby doesnt matter when they're running at you the whole timeShe does have the best jab in the game, I've really felt that shit just wins
>>542599948she's so mobile and you can literally cross the entire screen in 2 frames and punch, i really dont know why anyone would complain about vi being stubby... maybe their dash button isn't bound
been playing braum/darius but I always have this feeling that I would be better of if I dumped one of them and added ekko instead, and that feels pretty bad.warwick seems pretty cool also, but I'm not sure what to pair him with. I mostly see him with vi or ekko (as usual).was playing yasuo before and I can do most of his hard stuff but he just feels so fucking busted that I don't even want to pick him.having a character crisis type of personality is extra annoying when you need to pick two characters holy shit.
>>542602272ekko is always going to be there tempting you but if you're too honorable to pick yasuo and chimp out on people, you're also probably too honorable to pick ekko and win by backdashing and pressing 2x assist timewinder lol
>>542602375yeah I think I'm going to lock in braum and darius for a while, possibly learn warwick/vi on the side. I don't know a lot of league characters but caitlyn was hot as fuck in arcane so I hope they add her.
>>542602693the nice part about this game is that characters don't take super long to learn, so once you've got a few under your belt you can cycle through teams and just have a good time esp if you're playing casually. of course you'll always have that one team that feels like your ranked tryhard team, but generally every champ has at least one sick ass thing they can contribute to every other champi think 2xko is really wonderful for that
Anoter day, another 2xKami WON day
>>5426039642xKAMI2xKINO2xKINGS
Wait you can't even see inputs in replays? the ""devs"" really did just focus on combos and nothing else
>>542605867the replays are pretty barebones, which is in fact disappointingi have faith that they'll listen to players and improve them but the focus is definitely on just "sick clip bro"
I'm done with 2XKUSO. I'm going back to KAMI6.
Not a good look
Clayton, how does it feel to see 2xKami so sucsessful, when you said from the start that it would be DOA? All that yapping, and you STILL LOST, again.
>>542597912Literally her only problem is the universal air blockstun problem. She's fine otherwise. t. Vi player
>the devs tuned air blockstun individually for every move instead of having a consistent system where you can always know the frame data from an interaction>they left it so that a ton of specials are even more minus if your opponent blocks it in the airBro... what?
retarded gamewarring aside i really don't see the game being able to sustain itself if it doesn't appeal more to casuals and for sure it cannot do it with the current gameplay
the way the 2xko twitter account writes screams desperately trying hard to be seen as "cool" and totally not the mouthpiece of a giant corporation
>>542614040Turns out they're not actual game devs but just fans and players that managed to scam Riot for 10 years
>>542614379you apparently don't know about riot games>"You put a lot of effort into Chrono shift, but I assure you the Chrono break is coming"
>>542614351It will never appeal to casuals, it's impossible at this point unless they scratch a big part of the game.I think it's fine. This game can stay as the sweatlord game, after all Tokon will probably grab all the "new to the tag games" players by being more friendly, slower, less mechanics heavy etc.But still 2XKO needs to fix some of its competitive shit. No OP as fuck characters above everyone else, no retarded shit like air blocking working that way and so on.
Riot I will buy one of your stupid skins if you fix air blocking
>start having controller issues>opponent proceeds to beat me to an inch of my life>goes to the other side of the screen and starts pressing down down like this is EVO or some shit>40 seconds in I fix my shit>press down down to start back on>he launches a projectile to finish the matchI'm not sure if I should be thankful or ask why bother at that point
>>542620821He thought you were raging and being a baby. I do the same stuff. Just move on, there's no good way to communicate mid match.
>>542577940Soloing characters in this game feels like a mistake. That said I am noticing a lot of people dont seem to know how to deal with Braums shit.
How do I kill my tag partner in training mode so I can test shit with fury?
>>542625368sidekick
What are the 2 easiest characters? Warwick & Illaoi?
the game would actually be more balanced if it was 3v3. shit just kind of works when you can have the two guys you actually want to play + a good projectile/utility assist.
>>542620821You stopped moving, common courtesy is to stop until you can prove you can move again.
>>542626689Darius and Warwick
KAMIKEN
>>542631049That's kinda sad considering AK is probably THE most popular nigga in the series, he was 3rd most played across like 50-60 characters despite being a season 2 dlc in Tekken 7 too
Darius shitters malding at the possibility of being viable but just being ass at the game
>>542631818You're in no position to act superior, slop eater.
>>542632201>Jinx literally less represented than a real unironic day 1 characterShe's so broken bros....
Who is the best effort to success ratio character? Meaning who is the most simple character but still top tier?
>>542632201
>>542632715ekko
>>542619492You nigga are the only one I've seen yap about airblocking this muchNone of the people playing 8 hours of this game every day seem to give a shit They care about super tag, yasuo and timewinder way the fuck more
>>542632715Illaoi probablyYasuo isn't that far behind and it's really only because illaoi is so crazy braindead
>>5426269233v3 is generally good for team variety yeahBut idk man I think having 6 niggas on the screen with handshake tagging on the table sounds like an absolute cornfestI think it'd be fun as fuck though
>>542635109More than one person cares about it and is posting about it
>>542637382nah nigga its youShow me a single complaint outside of this thread and I'll concede though
Ahri Milkers
you can't convince me this makes sense
>>542632472That's with sponsored streamers, game is dead on arrival
>>542638730a fighting game cannot survive without sex characters
>>542637471It's not just him at all, the reality is there are just very few people that understand FGs enough to articulate the problem. I guarantee you this though, the number of people that can feel the problem while they play is higher than that. There are likely a ton of people that eat shit when certain specials get air-blocked and they don't get why. This kind of special case nonsense that isn't consistent across the game's design (with maybe a few deliberate exceptions) makes an already hard genre even harder to learn.
Formerly Iron Darius here. Yesterday, I talked about my struggles with the game and got some good advice. Today, I want to give a follow-up. But before that, a question: does this count as avatar fagging?I reached Bronze 2 yesterday and learned a lot. I achieved some of my goals,mainly to dash more, anti air more, and learn when to use assists. I wouldn’t say I’m good at any of these yet, but I definitely improved. I also started using dash-jump block and throwing out raw Super 1 as a whiff punish.An interesting observation: players in Iron actually played way better than in Bronze. Also, a random guy asked to duo with me. With him, I played against a really good player, he trashed me, but we managed to steal a game. Felt really good.
>>542637471>>542640381I dont considtently whine about this but I can confirm that I also don't like how it works right now
>>542640612Avatarfagging requires using an avatar for starters. You can be a recurring poster with a pseudo identity but you should avoid identifying with a consistent name when posting unless you want to lower the quality of the thread.
wtf, he told me 2M>2H in to jcJ2H(H) works!!!
>>542641036Maybe it's either 2M(1) or maybe partial charge on the j.2H, try both
>>542641190https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVqFNIALFA4is where i saw the combo
>>542640381Idk, I’d agree if it were consistent across the cast but the literal only egregious example is Vi S1. Seems to me to just be some weird overnerf to Vi rather than a failing of game design. Warwick is always more plus when I block his swings in the air, staying grounded to parry darius specials is always the correct play, it’s not a pervasive mechanic it’s just one niche counterplay. None of the streamers seem to even know that this exists not even the Vi players
>>542638290It's wack as fuck, even if you 2h something which is a dedicated anti air you are generally fucked because your answer for air block instead of a hit has to be very different and worse yet not every character even has a good follow up against air block so you can be screwed either wayTeemo can set traps and Yasuo can just go into stance for example
>>542642493It is present in other lariats and some other grounded specials, it's just that you're less likely to get into such a situation
this game is unironically too black for my tastei thought it would appeal to a more white or asian demographic being lol and all. White nerds, even troon ala strive are more acceptable, asian savants, asian egirls, instead it's just full of loud mahvel niggers.I don't like that, don't wanna be part of it
>>542642493Warwick's 2H is -8 when blocked in the corner leaving you open to a punish if you don't special cancel. That's opposite to everyone's expectations.
>>542638290For the love of god take it somewhere else. Reddit, Discord, whatever.
>>542643213no but you can help put an end to my reign of terror by petitioning Riot to fix it
Illaoi's lv3 super, the invincible reversal that deals 50% by itself has a 5f startup btwThat's faster than the fastest jab in the game
>>542643181Okay? and it’s -9 normally, so it’s more plus, not more negative. That’s not any different from how Marvel works
>>542643382Only if you shill for Leona and Morde alongside me
>>542643438Doesnt every single level 3 has full invul start up you’re supposed to just mash themGotta throw the low elos a bone when they spend 0 meter the whole game
>>542643848None of them are that fastIt's literally the only single digit ult alonside Teemo
>>542643597Don't fall for the false flag posts please.>>542643771Deal.
>>542643771Leona should be like Hazama/Ms Marvel in that she moves around with her sword projectile across the stage. Hire me, Riot.
>>542643438Goofy. I guess it's to make saving meter more appealing but every illaoi will just level 2 super you in the corner free setplay and kill you way before it
>>542642493I had it happen on Blitz, it is not isolated. The ability to notice it is.
1k less than sf6 and tekken
the air block schizo isn't wrong you know when playing you're probably going to notice something is wrong, that something is more scrambly than it should be, but knowing exactly WHAT is wrong is a whole other beast In Granblue if you input a DP on wake up, depending on the combination of buttons you input it would not be F1 invulthis was only discovered when people MODDED in a frame meter, they even thought it was a frame meter bug at first can you imagine how many people wake up dped, got hit and didn't know why?
>>542645381Forgot pic
>>542645381I wish I knew how mad you got when you learned there's no steam chart page for this gameI'm sure you jumped up and down and kicked your feet in rage must've been hilarious sad
>>542632715Darius is literally braindead easy - you just need to know distance
>>542645567Grubble is just janky shitIt has 4 frames of pre jump for example but for 4 additional frames you straight up dont have any upwards momentum and can't act either so it's more like 8frames of pre jump
>>542638290>>542645567Im newish to fighting games but i was under the impression that vi punch wasnt good for neutral skipping in the first placeI use it and just run into normals or timewinders or teemo rocks is it really optimal in other games to just throw the move out to the point it's part of your muscle memory
>>542646548Lariats are amazing anti air tools if you have good timing in MVC3 and DBFZ. Making an opponent block one in the air is usually rewarding rather than punishable. They don't have very tall anti air hitboxes. Regardless of that, zero moves should be more minus if the opponent is blocking it in the air vs on the ground.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1o6iijk/why_is_this_a_neutral_jump/njgnnuc/Sir, another jank has hit the reddit
> > 542645740Bro, I like the game, lol. I’m happy that it has almost the same number of views as SF6.I also posted this >>542539651 to show that Twitch views doesn't mean shit.
>>542646548It aso losses to Darius 2S2
>>542647531That has been an issue, I've been running into this problem ever since I started playing. I figured I'm running into it more often because I'm on leverless. Hope it gets fixed.
>>542638290This is how it works in DBFZ, BBTag, Strive, and MVC3.
>>542649317Thank you. So it's not Riot devs being retarded but a design choice.
>>542646854>zero moves should be more minus if the opponent is blocking in the air vs on the ground.oh yeah buddy what about command grabs?
>>542649512ironic shitposting is still shitposting, retarded game design is still retarded
>>542649636No, what I wanted to know if it was amateur shit or just them making a retarded choiceIt makes 0 sense here because the game is mostly grounded unlike DBFZ
>>542649793>let's encourage grounded play by making jump blocking better than ground blockingHuh?
>>542649937you do know what mostly means, right bro
>>542650254I honestly don't think I understand what you're saying. You got the point that DBFZ and the listed games give plus frames to attackers when the defender blocks in the air but 2XKO doesn't, right? Or did the text with the DBFZ webm imply that it's the same as 2XKO?
>>542650428Not him but I'm retarded and somehow thought Jiren was +4. So it's just 2XKO, even in fucking DBFZ air blocking is worse. Lmao
>>542650568Yeah I'm realizing that I didn't make the text contrasting enough and it implies it's the same as 2XKO, that's my bad. But nah, Hit's -2 move becomes +4 whenever someone blocks it in the air. This is universal with all moves across the board and it's the same in the other games listed (with varying amounts of plus frames).
>>542638290Get fucked, your full screen charged neutral skip shouldn't allow you to get in for absolutely free
>>542649317can u replicate this webm but w him higher up in the air?
>>542650995Agreed, that's why you can parry it, stuff it with a super or better special on reaction, or literally just hold back if it's actually full screen. They don't need to break basic fighting game frame data fundamentals to balance this (or any other) move.>>542651015It'll be the same but yes one sec
>>542650995IT'S EVERY FUCKING MOVE IN THE GAME YOU DUMBASS.
>>542651267It's literally not Try upbacking with a warwick running at you, his overhead is stupidly plus if it hits you in the air
What happens if Darius makes someone block 5sL in the air?
>>542650428Im not even that anonThe words "mostly grounded" apply to the general way the game is played as in you arent double jumping to the top of the screen and superdashing in tukoThe words "0 sense here" are about the plus frames to attackers not existing in the more grounded gameUnwind a little bit bro
>>542651386ok try charged 5H with WW nextit's completely inconsistent
>>542651596I'm not really wound, I really didn't understand. Thanks for explaining.>>542651015webm related, +6 with max height
>>542652104You just said every fucking move in the game you dumbass, in all caps
>>542638290blockstun ends when they touch the ground. not surprised.
>>542652461I don't think anybody is surprised about the mechanics of how it works like you mentioned but surprised that they'd ignore how everyone else does this and make air blocking even stronger than it already is in other tag fighters.
>>542652225I just meant that every move is absolutely randomhis overhead is minus and becomes plushis 5M becomes saferhis 5H becomes even more minus, his charged 5H which is gigaplus is instead gigaminus
>>542652640Yeah, the game is schizophrenic but my bad usually when I read the words every fucking move in the game, in all caps, I think you mean every move in the game and that there aren't any qualifications
>>542651492I assume you meant 5S1. Looks like Darius can be anywhere from +1-+6 depending on opponent height, the higher the better.
>>542653101>>542651492He is much more minus on 5S2 when the opponent airblocks (-10 to -13). He's -7 on 2H as well but 2H blocked into 5S1 is plus and lands the opponent so Darius is not too impacted by this issue if you're aware.,
>>542652606I lost a game earlier because of your posts btwIt was 13 hours ago here >>542571261Will be holding a grudge forever sorry
>>542653421>hey guys drive rush is really strong in SF6>retard does nothing but drive rush and burns himself out over and over and loses because he doesn't understand why it's good>DRIVE RUSH IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO LOSES TO IT IS BAD!!! BUFF DRIVE RUSHam I wrong anon
When I play 2xko my whole body is so tensed and my butt is so clenchd its not an relaxing experience, I even sweat sometimes, I dont have this with Streetfighter. Anyone else?
>>542654293I usually hold my breath for long periods when I'm playing tag fighters and my face gets really red even if I'm not upset or losing. Doesn't happen with SF or other competitive genres
>we're doing this againok but more importantly, pic
>>542654403this happens to me when i play FPS games and i don't even notice lol
>>542654531That's pretty nice
This guy is being paid by riot and even he doesn't get the skins. lmao
>>542641036https://streamable.com/6bt6rouniversal charged heavies is such a weird mechanic to have
>>542655163this is a blessed and likable kind of autism>that outrokek
>>542655163basedest anon in any fg thread
>>542655163Thanks buddy, where i can watch your other videos? Seems quite informative
>>542657708his name is Dayton Dapman on YouTube
>>542657809link?
>>542658132https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=2XsDvCiSkN3ZbwnQ
>>542652176>webm related, +6 with max heighti see thanks
>>542654997diaper doesn't really care about fluff stuff, he's a pure unadultered 100% gameplay guythe only other thing he cares about is clout/content, so if say he can use a cosmetic to create content he'll probably do it
instead of posting it here do it on twitter, seriously, tag the 2xko account and let them see this shit. Complaining here is useless
>>542659936I don't use xitter or any other social media. You're locked in here with me until it's fixed.
>>542660029are you dumb anon? How are they suppose to fix it if you don't raise awareness on the only social media they use?No one lurks this place anymore
>>542660184listen Elon I'm not signing up for any social media I'm sorry
>>542659919What I meant was that riot should have given the skins for free to him
WITH 1 SECOND LEFT ON THE CLOCKAAAAEEEOOO
>>5426608492xkami
>>542660309You're right, you should use that knowledge to win evo 2026
Also check out this Vi E kill
>>542654997All the ecelebs will buy the bundle anyways just for the charactersThey have to buy their copies of street fighter or guilty gear and their own season passes anyways
>>542661393god i wish i had an invuln lvl 1 but i understand how shit this game would be if every character had one>>542660849>plays teemoim sure almost every round goes this long lol nice tho
>>542661393Titantic Hydra ahh moment
It might just be me, but I think the cooldown for assists is way too low and the chip damage is too goddamn high.
>>542661880As someone obsessed with chip damage kills in games I agree with your second take, it is way too high. I'd like a way to mitigate it without risking resources or to just tone it down in general. I like the faster pace that fast assist cooldowns tend to encourage personally.
chip damage being high is fine, you've got push block and retreating guard to deal with it (please dont take it away its all i fucking have)
>>542579161This man does it late as fuck when I decide to sleep
>>542662769post a lobby
>>542662203The average chip damage isnt that high, some moves just fucking chuck your healthbar right out of the window though
>>542662371Pushblock is on the tag cooldown so it isn't going to do shit to a long chipstring into super.>>542662203I also like chip damage and I'm glad this game has it, but the amount of characters I'm losing from getting corner stuck while I get blockstringed into tag extention into blockstring into super is stupid. With assists I'm fine with them having a high amount of frequency but the cooldown is so short that almost every single combo/blockstring ends up having a tag extension in it. I just want tags happening every other combo unless there is a good amount of neutral play that happens.Another thing that I think should change is tags from a dead character shouldn't bodyblock/take hits after finishing the tag attack. The tag has already done the job of taking up space in neutral, hitting it is pointless because the character is already dead and only serves to fuck up my ability to play neutral. I can't even run in because the assist bodyblocks for three whole years while it's posing before leaving, which means if I want to get it out of the way I have to open myself up by attacking it.
>"bro what do you mean sitting fullscreen and never approaching isnt neutral bro im just better than you at the game"
>>542663262Actually hitting the dead assist does have a purpose, it adds 3 seconds to their assist CD So if you hit a normal assist call it goes from 2-5 seconds and I think if you hit a pushblock assist it goes from 5 to 8 secondsI agree the bodyblocking is really fucking annoying though.But I guess it's in the game so people learn to hit and respect assists when they can be handshaked or called again
>>542643213>Waaaah don't discuss frame data that's bad waaaahKill yourself
>WAAAHHH RUN INTO MY CLOSE RANGE CHARACTERS NORMALS WAHHHHH WHY ARE YOU SPACING MEEEEE>WHAT THE FUCK IS A DASH BLOCK???
>>542661880>cooldown for assists is way too lowAbso fucking lutely not, end yourself buddy. The game being fast is good, if you want street fighter go play that.
>>542663567zoning fags when they have to interact to play the game:
>>542661880Leave chip damage as is, just don't let chip kill. This is a fast mix-heavy game, why would someone get penalized for having good defense? Makes no sense and has never made any sense to me.
>>542663567Playing a tag game means you have to develop patience. Getting in is meant to be hard. Baiting your opponent into your assists while you play a macro spacing game rather than committing your point character is the most fundamental skill.>>542663810I'm like 99% sure dash blocking doesn't work right in this game
This game is already staleWhen’s the next champion
>>542664085>just don't let chip killsorry but you are my fucjign enemy
>>542664085Chip kills are essential for zoners to work at all in a game like thisThe reason DBFZ has no zoners except fucking Broly is because zoning is not a viable gameplanEven if you chip a guy to 1 hp eventually you have to go in with your limpdick shit ass zoning character and try to mix somebody which usually means the character just eats shit and dies
>>542664310Good I'll smoke you bitch
>>542664254doesn't matter how many champs they add. if they never nerf yasuo and ekko in meaningful ways, every team will have one or the other>>542664431wanna play a set?
>>542664137>dash blocking doesn't work right in this gamehow soIt works on my machine
Reminder to never take opinions from this guy
>>542664473Later I just got home
>>542664614he's being sarcastic right? he's been bitching and moaning about dumb shit for days
>>542664769damn im about to make dinner n go to work. ill catch you one of these days
>>542664389This game barely has zoners, and the two best characters in the game are rushdown characters. Call me when you start making sense man.The 1.5 zoning characters get most of their damage from actual close ranged combos, zoning isn't viable this isn't injustice or mortal kombat. You guys don't play fighting games.
>>542664085Chip killing is something important that has been thrown aside by almost every game at this point, I'm surprised Riot even allowed it in 2XKO and I'm glad that it's here. My problem is it feels like I'm losing like 1/3-1/2 of my bar to chip every round I find myself on the back foot.>>542663886I just want the cooldown on assists to be long enough where somebody has to think about whether they should use them or not. I already wouldn't call this game fast because it's a hyper fighter that operates on ft2 instead of wiping your opponent's team being winning the game.
>>542664778he may be a bitch but he's my ahri/teemo goat
>>542664778Ahri got buffed then he said he loves the game. Seriously.
>>542664778>he's being sarcastic right?I'd assume so. He's such a shit talker about other modern fighting games that I doubt this would be an exception. He makes a pretty good smarmy villain.
>>542664952It's a matter of principle niggaNot of the current meta, or even of this game at all, do a little bit of thinking about what game mechanics even do at the end of the day.The point is that you can opt to lame someone out of their last sliver of HP if your character is capable of spacing or doing a lot of chip, which gives them a unique strength in omitting one of the touches a different character would need. Unlike in dragon ballsacks where you have to spazz on the screen the entire game from start to finish and the best zoner is the fucking grappler
>>542665636can we be friends
>>542664778He's probably just embracing heelhood. He loved Fatal Fury but he was also probably the loudest critic of all the dogshit in the game and the stuff that needed to be fixed. Everyone else just pumped out toxic positivity ignoring the flaws and the game is dead as fuck now.
>>542665912yeah but he was bitching about really dumb shit in 2xko, like indefensibly dumb positions
>>542665810Yeah sure anon
>>542665810You are not me fuck off>>542665636Tell me why I, as the defender, deserve to lose because of rocket spam or I blocked a mix correctly? It's asinine. Zoning is already a unique neutral tool in principle and its strengths vary from game to game but the implication that they NEED chip kills is just nonsense
>>542667068If your defense is that godlike and you know exactly what your opponent wants to do, you have parry right there.Have you EVER tried to zone someone out in a game without chip kills?What ends up happening is if their hp is low enough they can just sit downback in the corner for a minute straight and the gamestate stagnates.You think that has NO impact to a zoner's viability when the defender has all the time in the world to figure out how to approach and almost zero fear for whenever they do decide to approach? In a game where your assist heals over time? Where you can die in 2 touches basically no matter what and in 1 touch to fury or a few bars of meter? Really?
>>542668169>oh no zoners are weakergood
im ngl when a bleeding opponent jumps at me at low health and i press HEADLESS and kill them with chip i do cum
this braum champion is fucking disgustingthank god he's dogshit manif they overbuff this freak the game will be over
>>542669802fuck you yas/ekko chud
>>542610771Clayton told people to play 2XKO tho in his videos so what are you talking about? Tbh Clayton was right he said they were going to release a game and patch it and over and over because they had no real vision and don't have anyone on the team that can properly beta test their game.Sounds like Clayton, won again anon and predicted another game 100% accurately.
>>542672453has there ever been a f2p game that's come out and not been patched ever again?
Anon, just admit it, Clayton won again. Where is the video you said where Clayton told people to not play the game as well? Because every video I see he tells people to play.https://youtu.be/e_J6xw0sHrcdesu it's always funny to me that you schizos want me to hate this guy, but every video he's extremely low key humble af desu.
>>542610771why did you bait him tho
>>542672453thank you for making me realize I need to wordfilter clayton because you obsessed fags somehow end up in every fighting franchise's threads
>>542673484>fagsit's literally just one guy
Why wouldn't you talk about Clayton if we are talking about 2XKO he was basically the entire teams sensei and used to teach them. Not sure why him being mentioned is such a big deal anyway, it's obvious he's the best galaxy brain we have ever had for this stuff. Deal with it.
>>542669802yeah armor is inherently dishonest
>korra raises a rock and jumps off of it before kicking someone with water and then firesurely the 2xko devs see that trailer and realize how perfect Qiyana is for a fighting game
>NO NO NO NO NO DONT CALL MY KEK GAMEPLAY BORING AND LAME ITS CALLED BEING BETTER AT THE GAME AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DONT NERF JINX SHES WEAK RIGHT NOW
you can tell this game's super good bc literally every single char has people complaining about themyeah ekko/yasuo get the majority of it but still
>>5426753802xKami just that good
>>542675965the more i play it the more i pray it has a long healthy lifeit's so much fun
when is sonicsol gonna log on and play 45 minutes of SF6 before crashing out again? i need my lolcow fix
>>542677182honestly feel bad for that guyhe's so miserable playing fgs but he keeps doing it
>>542675380You can tell the game is super good because the devs response to any criticism has been its just a beta bro it doesn't count yet lmfao.
>decide to play 1 (uno) ranked set>doorbell rings mid-matchwhat the helly
>>542677789well ACTUALLY i can tell it's super good because i play it and i have a lot of fun
>>542666146>he was bitching about really dumb shit in 2xkoLike what
>>542667068>blocked a mix correctlyIf you did you wouldn't have died you retarded shitter
why the holy fuck is matchmaking so SLOW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>542677541it used to be more fun to watch, I agree. Now he just gets mad to the point of ending stream the moment he loses a round.he's so incapable of self reflection it reaches the point where on paper you'd think it was a bit. he cannot accept the idea that he's not as good as he thinks he is, so he'll spend a grand and change on new toys rather than grind execution in the lab, all while whining about his living situation. I have0Rn't seen him lab a situation in SF6 in nearly a year.
>>542678529fwiw sf6 is such a dogshit game that i can't blame anyone for getting mentally destroyed by it. you can spend 80 hours a week in the lab, hop in a match, and get spat on by fucking drive rush->throw loop
ive done it brosI got my first one and done in rankedall through the power of fury slingshot>>542678160it might be the best game of all time
>>542664085Majin 21 is a sex nuke
>>542678846>watch clip expecting total bullshit>literally just "ekko player can't block slingshot"lmao owned
i was doubtful but i'm having fun with this gamei wish all the best success to this game
>>542679641b-b-based
>>542678729it's pretty sad he backed himself into a corner by going all in on playing video games and then being so shitty at all times to everyone around him he was ostracized, but earlier in the year he got real full time employment and then left after 3 days because he didn't know how to do something in his job. Didn't even wait to get trained. He had the chance to change his fate and he didn't, now he's stuck as an internet minstrel show.
>>542679641game is fun also extremely hard and has depth for once which is refreshing
>>542677541I want him to suffer because he did the striker guard break kill on me a couple times in DNF Duel.
anyone else get hot playing fighting games? not sweaty, just hotif i keep the window open then my hands get cold and i can't play
>>5426796412xKami caught another one, how does this game keep on doing this?
>>542680664yeah if I'm playing intensely for long enough my body heats up. I also get the kind of headache you get after taking a long ass test. Usually only happens if I play like 50 games in quick succession though.
>>542680664>Anon learns what adrenaline is
Nah man FUCK ahri how is this bitch not overpowered I lose so many neutral situations because she's impossible to catch, you can't do anything against that ssjvegeta A ass angle fireball that she does and even if she drops and combo and you tech out it basically becomes a mix up to where she'll airdash and what button she'll drop with. unbelievable man.
What does 2XKO need/change atm? QoL changes, menus, select screen, etc
2XKO is perfect and doesn't need any changes.
This assist might have won me a few too many games i wont lieMight've won me a few things I dont deserve possibly robbed them from the less fortunate and more deserving I wont deny that not at all
We doing an inhouse? If not I'm gonna go play deadlock
>>542680664when I played my first fighting game I would end every ranked session completely drenched in sweat, I don't get that anymore
>>542681519>QoL changes, menus, select screen, etcAn automatic matchmaking (aka not sitting in the lobby). Lobby is cute but it's annoying to get from cabinet to cabinet.Be able to select your loadout before queueing so that you don't enter champion select every single match.Inputs + hitbox info in replaysGameplay wise a lot of things, the so memed air blocking is one of the many, but the most important is GOOD CHARACTERS. Hopefully Caitlyn is not real
>>542681519Honestly just more characters, more skins, gameplay is fine balance is fine. Ahri is still sleeper top 5 idc what anyone says.
>>542683351Anyone who doesn't think Ari is top 5 is a fucking idiot
>>542679641>i was doubtful but i'm having fun with this gamedon't worry it will soon go away
Any teemo players know the best thing to spam during a super tag?I've developed this sick ass Vi combo where you hit a mushroom assist off of her dunk and then get to beat the guy during her super but idk what's the highest damage routeGot to 700 from 5HH S2 super into the end of an aircombo, there anything better?
>>542679641Same, I just needed at least one character I liked and got that with Teemo, honestly he's up there with my favorite fighting game mains I've had nowI still think everyone else is extremely lame, but at least I'm having fun
Jinxbros, matchup chart.Agree?
>>542682345>when I played my first fighting game I would end every ranked session completely drenched in sweat, I don't get that anymoreWait, is this addiction?When I started playing FGs with a friend of mine I would sweat a ton and have an unbeliavable amount of fun.Nowadays I don't get that anymore, but I kept playing. Am I still chasing that high?
>>542685508How is Teemo rough? Jinx outzones him
>>542685643not really? it was just my first time tryharding that hard, now im used to fighting gamesI also used to sweat so much when playing shmups but not anymore too
>>542685738The few sets I've played his rock can fire faster than my rocket so I have to try harder to get in. Teemo/Illaoi is one I've fought hte most and illaoi 2x assist just kills shit on the screen and he slingshots rocks and mushroom supers all that shit is better than anything Jinx can do.
>>542685904You can punish mushroom super fullscreen with your beam super, never let him get away with itAnd fullscreen vs fullscreen you outzone him because your rocket is faster than charged slingshot and you have other full screen options, you have to force him to approach you and not the other way around
>new to game>try casual duos with my friend who's gold rank>get raped>get raped>get raped>combos and block strings both take like 8-12s every single interaction>when it's finally my turn i press a single button (because not pressing a button just puts me back into another 10 second combo or block string), maybe get a conversion, and my opponent burns break>back to getting raped in the corneri did the combo trials and learned a few bread-and-butter strings, but this game seems like it has negative neutral and it's just a matter of which player knows how to mash their safest, biggest options that lead into long combos better. i've only been playing for a day and i'm already tired of seeing the same combos over and over.
actually the game is about airblocking and overly safe neutral
Learning neutral will take a while if you come from slower games, simple as.
>>542687225ok
i want to like this game but the fact that you can't just "get better by playing" is a major turn off. why do i have to memorize shit in a practice range before i play. i just want to play and figure things out by playing.
>>542687002It depends on your character but mashing in this game is possibly the worst thing ever you will get smoked by almost anything.Just call an assist to punish them, whiffing a normal should almost always just get you killed because every character is stupid fast and can convert a hit from basically any rangeAlso if you want to play neutral just pick teemo
>>542681519Yasuo rework, since he is too good in too many areas.Ekko nerfs. Just nerf his damage and his projectile. He is a mixup character. His damage is too high and his zoning is too good for his archetype.Nerf Illaoi tentacle super to do just two reps. From there, they can balance the game with less drastic changes.Queue from training mode without going into a lobby.Cheaper costumes. It is not a deal breaker for me, since the game is free, but they clearly don't know about Laffer Curve.
>>542688429You can though I'm way better than I was a week ago and I didn't lab anything.I actually figured out all my conversions from stray hits almost by myself and playing into mirrors.And the moment when I finally jumped to airgrab someone who was jumping my Vi grabs I came a little bit
>>542688429that's the worst part about deciding to improve in FGs. with the time and practice needed to actually get strong at this game you could become a strong enough chess player to crush almost anyone you'd meet and people would actually care about that.these games are fun but in the modern age there's no reason to try hard something like this instead of something timeless like chess or actually improve yourself.
>>542688865Don't chess players spend all their time reading about optimal strategies and shit?They don't just play the game and get better they have to like do math
Vi, Braum, Jinx, Teemo, Illaoi and Ekko were terrible picksThe game has 11 characters and 6 of those are bad picks lol
>>542689525The game was made for meI otped Teemo for 10 yearsCrazy dyed hair chicks do it for my dickAlso I always play the big gauntlet characters in fgs I was a Mika player in bbtag
Sometimes I want to reinstall this game then I remember Ekko, Yasuo and backdash spam meta exist
>>542689960shit taste exodia
>>542690084backdashing is old news kidit's all about airblocking these days nobody backdashes anymore
>>542690239Well the game still doesnt have my biggest fetish yet I need some hot brown girls in it and then I'll have assembled all the pieces
I'm almost tempted to make a looping webm of Yasuo backdashing and speeding it up
>>542689041 takes a lot of tactical and pattern recognition training more like anti-air drills than studying optimal opening strategies (most of which are actually chosen by style since most are good enough) at most levels of play and even then the best players are playing dozens or hundreds of blitz games a day. opening strategy is important but not until you're already pretty good. you can run over most "book learners" by just being better in a fight than them. any part of your game that slacks will get blown up, just like in fighting games.
Sex with Jinx
>>542687115why don't my bronze games have patient players it's such a fucking mystery???
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