Make your own kind of game edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>542369486
Good games review themselves.
Real thread>>542448924>>542448924>>542448924
This is the thread.Posted on bump limit, and it doesn't have drama in the OP.
>>542448134>Name a single successful indie game that bought ads and made their own youtube and tiktok videos.agdg has been talking about megabonks viral youtube shorts for weeks now.
>>542449728I waited till it hit thread limit. 750 doesn't mean 744 replies.
>>542449527Why didn't I think of this? I don't think Gabe thought to disallow it.
bumpdon't reply to trangoon coded posts
Good luck today, hope you can get some progress done.
>>542449728Fake and not real thread
Day 12. Driving is now working, it just sucks. Tomorrow I'll focus on the look and feel of it. Camera switching turned out to be pretty easy, which was nice.
Good games refund themselves.
Where's your game's black womxn of power?
>>542449826Were they made by the dev or by rabid fans?
>>542449820Oh, you'll see drama and worse on this thread. Post in the real thread >>542448924 because this'll get deleted soon.
Adding a face that has a 1% chance to appear on any level in Bokube and talk to the player about some hidden lore in the game.
>>542450538Hidden lore: BokuDev is a crossdresser and looks cute in a maid dress
>just make such a good game that you can shadow drop it on steam and then you will get rabid fans who will make youtube shorts for youOr you know, live in reality and just do marketing and promotion for your game like everyone else.
MY game will be a chud game but it will have lots of cute black girls and I'll call anyone who doesn't like it a racist.
>>542450642Literally what Vampire Survivors didMinecraft didn't shadow drop on Steam, it shadow dropped on /v/ and was the single most successful indie game of all time
>>542450538Worst progress post yet. You better not be doing drugs boy.
>>542450806Minecraft had constant threads in /v/ for years with a playable beta and demo. It never "shadow dropped". Shadow dropping a game on steam is retarded and will never be acceptable. It's not a recipe for success. Nobody does it. Stop being delusional.
>>542450806Didn't it have early access builds that was slowly building hype? It's like Voices of the Void and Yume Nikki. These games form a community during it's development
>>542450990Oh, so it's "shadow dropping" to put your first release on Steam but not if you put your first release on /v/ instead?
>>542451208Apparently early access on Steam is now considered "shadow dropping" according to that other anon.
>>542451387I think you're being weird about this
>>542451212>>542451387Nothing you're saying makes sense. You don't seem to comprehend anything other people say either. What we can deduce though is you think there's a way for games to succeed by doing no marketing or promotion, or that "rabid fans" can develop for a game that is "good" and releases with no promotion. That's false and delusional. Not much left to say on the matter.
>>542451627What's delusional is agdg constantly making up excuses to not make good games.
He's clearly trolling now.
>>542451914>just make a good game and you don't have to marketThat's wrong and stupid.>oh wow so you just want to make bad games thenYou don't have the IQ necessary to discuss these things with people. I would accept that maybe there is a language barrier and you just don't speak english well but I doubt that's the problem. You think you can be lazy and avoid marketing and still be a successful indie game. That's wrong and delusional.
>>542451914This is a place for yesdevs and nodevs to hangout. Some people just get too butthurt about the other side. I miss old AGDG
>>542452050I actually think it's just a midwit who is desperate to believe he won't have to make an effort to sell their game. But they are also never going to make this "good" game that gets "rabid fans" so it's kind of irrelevant. Lots of pipedreamers in this hobby.
>Session limit reached
>>542450068Neat.
>>542452292>agdg is a place for nodevsRight. Enjoy your gorespamming retard who doxed himself the other day. That guy has never made anything in his life.
>>542452541That's no nodev. Just some troll. Nodevs are different
>>542450538I think creppy smileys are a bit too overdone. Make it a cute bunny, or a real character.
>>542450068Progress is progress. You first got to make it, then fix it later
>>542452315The effort to sell the game IS the effort to make the game good. You are willfully ignoring the actual point and making up some alternative strawman to knock down instead because you can't refute the actual point.Though thank god there is at least a few other anons here who know the basic fact that what matters is the quality of the product, not the marketing. Very likely some of you will actually succeed in making good games since you know what to actually prioritize unlike the others who make up excuses to not make good games and throw meaningless insults at you.
>>542452718You rike this one better? Im naming him.. Roko
>>542453087that looks so much better
>be me>finally have progress to share>general has been in meltie mode for the last weeki think i'll pass on sharing that progress for now
>>542450538Is it going to have a voice?
>>542452856>you can't refute the actual pointYes I can. You can't make a game good enough that it will be magically successful after shadow dropping. All of your attempts to name a game that supposedly did this was incorrect. You couldn't actually name a single one and in fact showed that you have no idea how any of those games actually released.You've been dismantled. gg
>>542452718>>542453141whoops idk why the image didnt send. lol>>542453198yeah; il use AI since its literally an AI
>>542453214Vampire Survivors explicitly had no audience from its initial release on itch.io so its release on Steam should definitely count as a shadow drop. It is the poster boy for good games magically being successful with no marketing.
It’s a shame being a gamedev is considered “cool” resulting in the topic attracting so many self absorbed drama queen attention whores. Must have been so relaxing to develop games in the 90s.
>>542453350VS succeeded because *tubers liked it as a braindead game to fascinate their braindead audience
>>542453350Wrong. >>542451208
>>542453343It's ok, looks like a puppet.
>>542453446That's not marketing, that's a good game "magically" finding its audience by being good.
>>542453508WRONGRONG
>>542453471By that anon's logic, an early access release is somehow not a shadow drop just because it had explosive success. Yeah, Vampire Survivors got bigger and got more content updates, but it had explosive runaway success from its very first release. But we're not supposed to call that first release a "shadow drop" because the developer made additional releases afterward?
The way /agdg/ talks about YouTubers and streamers is the exact same way women talk about other women that are prettier than them
>>542453827There were too many cases where positive *tuber coverage created millionaires; doesn't work with shit games tho
>>542453673>but it had explosive runaway success from its very first releaseNo it didn't. It underperformed for a long time.How can you stand being consistently wrong about something for so long?Anything to avoid accepting that you will probably have to market a game if you want to succeed. That's all it is. Delusional and lazy pipedreaming.
The problem here is that anons evidently have different definitions of "marketing" (and to a lesser extent, "good"). That's why everyone's just talking past each other.
What do you think of this concept?
>>542453914The initial itch.io release underperformed. The Steam version was an explosive success from its very first release. What marketing took place between those two? None.
>>542454113>What marketing took place between those two?*tuber audience heard about the game and bugged their idols to play it
>b-but vampire survivorsMarket your game RETARD. lmfao
>>542453981>A game about AGDG not making gamesToo realistic
I actually kind of hoping more devs on agdg fall for the "market your game" delusion just to see all the absolutely terrible advertisements for fundamentally bad games that are going to result from it. The only downside is the increase in the "I should have marketed more" coping when the games inevitably fail due to being bad games.
make it sovl first. make it soulless later
>>542454564Many such cases
>>542454464Most places you can pay for ads are so useless you’d be better off printing out a picture of your game on a poster board and holding it on the side of the road.
I have an existing trailer, do I upload that to TikTok along with a new trailer?
Didn’t getting doxxed not wake you up? Why the gore spam still?Also dev music: https://youtu.be/SsNl4Eyhz0Q
>>542455562It's a new tiktok account or you already posted something?
Intro for the snow boss, camera shakes a bit in this one for the ground surfacing.
>>542455852Created months ago but no content. First video flopped so I deleted it and didn't bother with the site.
>What did they mean by this?Oh yeah, I got all my new sprites. We'll see what people think of them in how my CTR changes.
>>542450774which pixel is the crab?
>>542456083>>542456406Looking good.
>>542454464>>542455542>doesn't even attempt to learn the basics of indie game marketing>keeps trying to convince everyone it's pointless>thinks it has to do with buying ads and stuffJust stop talking about the topic. It's embarrassing listening to you.
>>542456875Make the eye materials creeper and give it a black hood.
>>542456083H-hey...
Added blurbs to some of the levels. I'd really like it if the text were center-justified, but with my current setup, that would be insanely difficult to code. But maybe someday.
>>542455754The police didn't kick down his door like he claimed they would so he's stuck in limbo doing what he has always done which is try to annoy agdg and make himself relevant to someone in the world by acting out on the internet. The fact that the guy also spends all his time in pol and obsessing about trannies and probably thinks because he's white he has some intrinsic value is the real tragedy. Doesn't get much lower than the existence he's leading.
>>542456875uboka
>>542456118>First video flopped so I deleted it First videos always flop, those tiktokers you see around with 200k or 50k as they first video probably are hiding all the first videos they made.
>>542457254It's also crazy to have it confirmed that the retard who has been screaming about troons every thread for years is in fact a schizo britbong who has never made a game. He claimed he has only been stalking agdg for 6 months but nah. That guy has always been here. Finally got tired of being completely inconsequential and decided to try and scorch earth himself. Failed at that just like everything else he attempts in life lmao
>>542457171Like this? >>542457293ooo I love yume nikki
>>542457254>>542457653Who is this? I'm so lost after being away for only a couple of years. Last time I was posting here regularly, people still weren't regularly discussing the fygoon guy. And annoying fucks like the Alice poster weren't around yet either. Who's this gore posting spaz?
>>542457908The guy who calls everything trooncoded streamer friend slop etc etc. dozens of adjectives and just generally hates all indie games was spamming gore and tranny stuff for the past few days and the site he was using to dodge bans doxed him lmao. So he goes and posts his own face and gives his name and claims he's going to get arrested because in britain they're so strict about hate speech and online behavior. It was really pathetic. He's probably blackout drunk right now just barely managing to fumble these gore posts.
is it over?
>>542458159>>>/v/723129769
>>542458097>and the site he was using to dodge bans doxed him lmaoHahahaha. The weirdest thing is that he was clearly pussy footing around with the gore posting. He could have just posted an actual gore webm from a rekt thread on /gif/. Instead, he was clearly trying to get away with just difficult to discern screenshots, but still seems to have been banned lol. What a fucking sperg.
>>542458159huh?
when was the last time you made a backup?
a game where you brush your niece's hair
>>542458159I think so.
>>542458520Today.
>>542458587carol...
Apparently putting 2 rectangles behind each other is too complex for the framework I'm using
>>542458346Whatever service he's using can't actually posts webms and gifs lol. He's as bad at this as he probably was the first time he tried making a game who knows how long ago that was. It just confirms what is already obvious, nobody that hateful and obsessed with troons has a soul capable of making something. The most they can do is lash out and try to disrupt or discourage actually gifted people.
It's actually been really nice not hearing about "looney troons" from that pathetic s.o.b. ever since he crashed out. Britain owes us an apology for allowing cretins like that to access our internet.
>>542458823You don't need to use a framework anyway you just want to be different
>>542458520July lol thanks for the reminder to actually upload it
>>542458097Really? That guy was really annoying. Even more annoying than fagoon.
>>542457616I messed up my hashtags, and now they're blank text. Do I delete and upload again?
>>542459440Well one thing is clear they both have an obsession about /v/3. One because they were banned from it and the other because he thinks it's making money somehow or going to make money and this somehow bothers troonbong. Which is why when /v3/ was mentioned he started the attack and went on about the showrunner betz for 2 days. Troonbong is an extremely jealous person who thinks they have good ideas and goes crazy watching other people actually make things that he otherwise just sits around and imagines he could do. This is why he is obsessed with nortubel, for being an honest and proud schizo who can actually make something. The gore spam in this thread was from troonbong to punish us for not using his gay anti-nortubel drama thread. >>542449728
>>542457228yaay
>>542457228what is your current setup?it probably is more readable as it is than if it were center justified anyway
>>542453165troonbong passed out, thread should be safe for a while.That means no AI spam, babbling about betz and /v/3, no gore, no tranny gore and no rants about looney troons for at least the next 10 hours.
>>542461197I'm using a sprite-sheet for the font. I just pass a string into my renderText() function and it renders everything, letter-by-letter. The code is kinda ugly, especially if there are multiple lines. With center-justified text, you'd have to know the width of each individual line, which would be a HUGE pain. It wouldn't be impossible, just REALLY ugly.
Is ML Translation good enough to translate my game to Japanese?
>>542461289Good, that means you can talk about me.
>>542461882homocoded
'cord wonned bigly
>>542461882Nothing to talk about. You fell off. Probably the most irrelevant dev on agdg at this point.
>>542461980
>>542462079ewww
>>542461882This seems really homo erotic.
>>542462332that's a good thing straggot.
So fagoon really is just a gay scalie. I'm shocked, well, not that shocked.
>>542456406When people call silksong a flash game I disagree. but this does look like a flash game, no offense. I wonder how you avoid that look.(not that it matters, that age is so far gone that barely any gamers will make the connection)
>>542457751Imagine looking at this bunny for 12 years.
>>542462079Is this character actually in the game in any way? Or animated? Do you have a webm at least featuring them?Are you just posing characters for screenshots at this point or is there an actual game to show people?
>>542461882>>542462079is this 'goon or someone pretending to be him to make fun?
>>542453827>game releases, doesn't immediately have 1,000 reviews"it's a flop">suddenly has 1,000 reviews and a couple big streamers play it"STREAMER SLOOOOOP""people only bought the game because their favorite streamers played iiittt"It's 360 degree jealousy in all directions.
>>542463673Has to be the impersonator. In order for Fygoon to make new character models he would have to accept that they needed changed or improved. A narcissist doesn't make mistakes, everything they do is perfect the first try, so this would never happen.
>>542462991She's literally the second boss in the game.
There's a 97(mixed) reviews on the daily deals on steam right now.Where's the steam indie suppression algo schizo?
>>542464105game* instead of reviews
>>542464000Oh right.You have to get off this website Fygoon. For your game sake. Put this all behind you. You are not making a 4chan game and your reputation and this game are suffering from association. Alas you are unable to turn away from the attention, from being discussed and acknowledged in the worst possible place to get any such attention. Well second worst. It's not too late for you avoid ending up on a lolcow forum.
>>542463971It's evident you haven't seen the latest render.
>>542464519I've already mentioned your propensity to pose characters for screenshots in scenes that aren't actually in your game. It's not constructive. If you had a cutscene like this or gameplay like this that would be something. You have literally dozens of these screenshots of fake gameplay. It shows that you're more interested in appearing to have a cool game than anything.
its like a child playing with action figures
>>542464816aren't we all...
Does making games make you gay? I've been thinking aout my male friends a lot recently
>>542464925>Does making games make you gay? I've been thinking aout my male friends a lot recently
God TikTok is miserable. Why do you need #fyp tag? Why does For You not show me any vidya? No wonder anons throw in the towel after one or two videos.
>>542464962Yes?
>>542464816Only the yesdevs play with toys. Sorry.
>>542465551based hunterchad
>>542464982The one time that the term humiliation ritual is actually accurate.
>>542464692It's a large story that simply cannot be contained in just a single game. Besides, showing off these amazing scenes gives people an idea of what the future holds.Sorry you have such a narrow vision for your own "creative" works.
>>542465754And the biggest bullshit of them all, not getting to set a thumbnail for a Twitter video. Can't have the same video across 3 sites for whatever reason.
>>542465551yo...
>>542449728>he tried again>he failed againthis must hurt.
good games flop themselves
Fatfuck gabencunt... I'm coming for you.
>>542464982>#fypwhat does this mean
>>542464105Proofs?
>>542454464after enough failed advertising campaigns they're eventually going to learn to design games with appealthis is when indie development will become extremely competitive, a new level, above where it is nowprepare yourself
>>542466435fuck yo post nigga
>>542466435It means "make my video do better" from my poor understanding. Why this isn't used on every video is beyond me.
its not that hard to make good tiktoksjust use some dry humour, show off the game and add whatever the latest FOTM tiktok song is
>>542466812>add whatever the latest FOTM tiktok song isreported for unauthorized commercial use, i'll see you in court
>>542464982>Why do you need #fyp tag? you don't
give me 5 ways to make a cool rpgmaker game FACT
>>542464105post gamei saw a game with 2 reviews at the top of the new & trending pagethe cause was, it cost $40 and in a genre for mature gamers who only leave reviews after completing games, not the 10 minute playtime meme review reward farming slop you see from 12 year oldsrevenue = exposuremost indie games are cheap and lack promotion, and thus never receive the sufficient exposure required to boost their presencethe algorithms are rigged against themonly the slop survives
imagine being british lol
>>542467132He won't post the game because he was lying.
>>542466742TikTok is filled with zoomies who treat the algorithm like a mysterious godThey unironically believe tagging videos #fyp increases its virality
>>542467271just check your own steam nigga how hard is it? want me to wipe your ass too?
>>542467710>want me to wipe your ass too?As a matter of fact, I DO want you to wipe my ass, peasant. Do my bidding.
how can a virgin be a narcissist anyway?being a virgin is like tangible proof that you are a loser
>>542467710retard
im making a foddylike
>>542468098NPD ppl are all losers
progress
>>542468770cute
https://youtu.be/DPxVr7_JR7Ais the lore in your game grimdark?
>>542469283I… Honestly don’t know what my story is.I need something good
>>542469283not on the surface, but if you think about it, yeah
>>542468216nice. may i see it?
>>542469452wasnt really intending to show anything yet but its such a simple idea that who cares. this is what i got done this weekend:https://files.catbox.moe/z3f5kf.mp4camera is a bitch - i haven't done 3rd person before so if anyone has any tips to make it less nauseating, pls let me know
>>542470282>it's just pogo3d againtoo be fair that game was fucking hard and I hated it, so it's perfect for a foddylike
My game... It... Sellerded 0 copiers...
even though I'm too scared to post my game here so I don't get schizos trying to doxx me, you are closest I have to friends.I don't feel much affinity to the fans of my game because they're the audience and they don't know my struggles.
>>542470690only shitposters get doxxed
>>542470375>pogo3di did zero prior research before starting on it, so interesting to see how this did. will prob buy it just to see if i can learn any lessons from iti think their control system is a bit different to mine. theirs uses the mouse to change direction, whereas you control direction in mine by leaning via the analog stick (or WSAD but analog is strongly recommended).
>>542466263I have a Sachiel sitting on my deskI'm too tired and lazy to post it rnbut just so you know it's there
>>542449281i can't believe nortubel had his throat slashed by an inmate, at 9 am in an uk prison in october 11th
>the uk faggot is here
>>542470768I hope you will enjoy my masterpieceHere’s some design decisions i made which think helped a lot>make sure there is a movement tech curve for speedrunners. They are a big demographic for rage platformers>make sure your difficulty starts extremely low and is relatively free of sudden spikes. A 10 year old should be able to beat level 1, and nobody should be getting stuck for 5 hours on one jump>make sure the movement feels good. If it’s not fun why bother. I am autistic about movement so i found this easy. Your movement currently looks frustratingly slow and fiddlyI found tying the pogo angle to the camera gives more fine motor control and a wider range of angles than dual analog is capable of.
paid a girl on fiverr to brainwash youhttps://x.com/vianite_/status/1977499601868386508
>>542471573
>Twitter link
an incremental musou
>>542471573not cute enough
>>542471545If i was to make another technical platformer i think i would try>mission-based campaign instead of a giant seamless world.It’s a little off-brand for a rage platformer, but it panders more to the speedrunner audience, and is easier to pump content for. Just make chapters of 5-8 self contained challenges, giving each chapter one or two gimmicks. You can even add extras like S rank grinding or challenging collectibles that unlock bonus levels>softer fail statesInstant death from touching a surface kinda sucks. I had to break up my challenges into very small pieces because a tiny mistake in angle is so punishing
>>542471697my badhttps://www.tiktok.com/@vianite_/video/7560276240888859926
>>542471573Marketing is a signal booster, not a magic trick. if your game doesn't garner interest naturally(I don't know if it does) without paying for marketing, it will be money down the drain.
>>542471545>Your movement currently looks frustratingly slow and fiddlyyoure not wrong. i've got a "bigger jump" which the player can charge before bouncing to gain extra velocity on their bounce which makes the movement a bit snappier (i.e. you can change your direction much quicker) but definitely working on this. assuming youre the pogo3d guy - it looks like (based purely on the steam videos) your control system is more built for speedrunning tech than something like Baby Steps - maybe its just the players im seeing rapidly jump through the levels. is this a fair assessment?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2248150/Gunmetal_Gothic/found some kino
>>542472016it's like going to the gym to attract women. it will help you attract more women, but if you're unattractive without muscles, no amount of muscles will help you.
>game startup takes 5 seconds>even worse if I try to build a bigger levelsigh time to learn how to save scenes to file at runtime
>>54247206172k wishlists in 2 years.if it didn't have the "retro" low res shader it would have 720 wishlists.
i just can't make an idle gamei need interactivity, mechanical gameplayit's not for me
>>542472016>if your game doesn't garner interest naturallywhat do you mean naturally?
>>542472635pong is interactive
>>542472753pong is basedi should make incremental pong, or maybe a brickbreaker clone
>>542472748without paying for marketing
>>542472748NTA but Steam shows your game to a number of users even if you don't promote it. in my case my two complete flops get 30-40 non-bot visits every day according to Steam even months after I've given up on them. Steam could be lying of course but the risk for them would be too great and it's not like they're promising any exposure that they'd feel they have to fake it.so if your game is up on Steam and it's not gathering enough wishlists without you doing anything, it's probably ngmi.if Steam is lying that's a different thing but then Steam could be selling your game more than it reports and you wouldn't know.
>>542470925good to know
>>542472865>>542473039guys, it was 10 dollars just for a social media shitpostI'll be missing a half of pizza
>>542473360And it's just a friendly warning.
>>542472039The casual audience is important. You can’t ignore them because they represent the bulk of steam buyers. The autistic nerd audience I’d important because they create the most community and word of mouth. Your game should be enjoyable for both groups
>>542473604alright, I think I understand nowthanks for looking out, I'm totally new to all of this so any help is appreciated
>>542466178>It's a large story that simply cannot be contained in just a single game. Besides, showing off these amazing scenes gives people an idea of what the future holds.>Sorry you have such a narrow vision for your own "creative" works.
i might make a game with zero gameplayso a visual novel
new menus
i might make a visual novel with no novelso a game
i might make a post with no progressso a typical agdg post
Is there really no didactic way to teach the very basics of game design? It's all trial and error, really?
banned from discord by sheltered losers who arent going to make it. lego set creeps go drink milk
>>542476812>didacticwordcel psueds will never make it as game devs, give up now
>>542476957you dont even make anymore, you just post about your mental illness
>>542477079I am deeply sorry for your insufficient IQ causing you to feel threatened by fairly basic vocabulary.
>can't have both material and shader>if I want to animate anything like pulsate light values I have to code itI guess I only need to multiply by a variable I set from the script for this but boy.. I'm a shader noob ;_;
>>542477148thats why its my mental illness posting discord
>>542477580>I'm a shader noobThere's your next study project then! Rejoice!
Wagie run progress:>Cans-to-heal indicatorFrom the start, I always intend for the player to heal his HP after collecting 10 cans. But before, there is no visual indicator. Now, i use a white bar that covers up the green health bar, to indicate how close you are from healing your HP.I think this will motivate the player to collect cans even more, especially in tight low-HP situations>notePlease pardon the low quality webm. I have to compress it so that the size reaches lower than 4MBThe captcha is "AAAA" kek
>>542476957Who cares? We have a perfectly fine thread right here.
>>542476957i dont hear anyone got banned in the discord server. Also, which discord? v3? or the supposedly "inner circle" server?
>>542477894I don't know if I'm banned or not but I got kicked once.
>>542478047Again, which server. Also, i got kicked once too from being idle, a year ago. But im rejoining just fine (v3 server). The people inside are comfy, and friendly
>>542477580Huh this can be great to get a good starting look then edit with additional effects.
https://youtu.be/G-Wn48geCJ8kino
>>542465551>>542466263>>542470925Very cool robots fellow anons.Going to do attack and death animations tomorrow and then implement the enemy into the game, but I made this little animation just fiddling around for fun.
>>542477787You give me hope anon. As long as you fight, I'll fight.
Hey bitch! You fucking ugly bitch! Are you gonna respond now, bitch?? Hey!!! Respond, bitch!!!
>>542477559>insufficient IQwordcels (You) are turbo-midwitsthey use big words because they think it makes them look smart rather than just revealing to everyone that they are pseuds
imma never stop grinding niggai get shit out the mud niggareal spilli rather die before i quit niggalet em know how we moving nigga
trying to export this mesh with bones is making me want to fucking kill myself.
>>542481252next time make a VN or a pixel art RPG
Nikolay Raskovskiy
WHAT DE FACK???? FYGOONATARD WORK FOR VALVE???? OH MY BRAHMAPUTI!!!!
>>542481509what was the support request for
>>542481564Don't worry about it
>>542481509Do you reckon it'd be fun working in the team that reviews games at Valve?
>>542481252>is making me want to fucking kill myself.Welcome to gamedev
>have massive todo list>spend the whole day working>todo list is longeralmost every day is like thisI'm not even adding new features either
battle royales are incremental games
>>542482000Yup, if they'd hire me for doing that it might be one of the few wage jobs I'd accept.
Odds - I gamedevEvens - Incel neet game porn addict type of day
>>542481252>each bodypart is a separate object, each separately parented to the armatureWhat the fuck are you doing anon? Follow a tutorial at least.
>>542482903Suck on this procrastination! I better see results replied here by the end of the day anon.
farming simulators>>542482927it's an acceptable practice
>>542482181>todo list is longerthe list is just a construct that you came up with. better to have more but simpler and better defined steps than like>draw the rest of the fucking owl
holy shit im bad at this
>>542483003>trying to export this mesh with bones is making me want to fucking kill myself.>noooo! I couldn't possibly be doing anything wrong! it's an acceptable practice! nooooo!
>>542483219him being a noob doesn't make the practice unacceptable
>>542482000No, it wouldn't be. You'd have to launch 6000 unity student projects a day or porno games just to see if they work, check the controller support, netwrok support etc. It's not fun.Probably automated nowadays as well.
>>542482927i did follow a tutorial but it made the character deform weirdly and made the limbs bend etc. I specifically want the limbs to not bend, and only articulate at the joints. But the issue is not the armature, but exporting to FBX which is totally broken for some reason.
>>542482927>>542483370I want to acheive an effect like pic related where each limb part is kind of separate. it seemed like it would be easier to work with
https://youtu.be/Vzz8_O3PIUg?si=d2LhIuro-3rlxaw7>NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE TO MODEL OUT EVERY LEAF AND EVERY BRANCH ON A TREE GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE TO USE NANITE!!!What the hell? What's wrong with alpha-masked textures? Why would you increase the time on each singular asset like this for marginal benefit?Why are "professional" 3d artists like this?
>>542484137>increase the time on each singular assetthere is your answer, its for muh employment
>>542484476I never thought of it this way before, makes sense actually.
>>542466435fygoon you pedo
>>542470765How to avoid getting doxxed? Make a separate email with no personal details and only post your game with accounts from that email?
>>542465551oh my based
>>542479428Nice.
>>542465551When my game is successful I will be able to afford toys.
>>542485642yes
>>542486493>he can't even afford toyspeak ngmi
i have identified the formulasuccess is in my reach
amateur toy maker general when
>>542486561It's precisely because of this that I will succeed. As a kid that couldn't afford toys I had to create my own games to amuse me and to play with my friends when they came over. I am a natural gamedev.
>>542486639right nowright herethis is it
>make perfect grid movement>passing through objects now>oh well better see why>using tween ignores physics and colliders>need to use move_and_slide()>move_and_slide() has the player slide everywhere and doesn't adhere to the grid movementI guess I'll just fucking die
>>542486795>using physics for grid movementYou deserve to honestly.
>>542487160There isn't physics for grid movement, there's collider2ds for walls and shit.
JUST EMPTY MY MIND OF EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH GAMEDEV
does /agdg/ ever do advent of code?
>>542487584noi don't know what that isi only work on my game
>>542487651daily coding puzzles thing that runs every decemberthe retard who cant into grid traversal made me think of it because it always has grid traversal/pathfinding problems
>>542487724ahh, makes sense
>>542487584advent of code and js13k are the only programming I do. other than that I'm just an ideas guy for my team (claude, dipsy and phi).
recorded myself having an orgasm and added it to the game as a death sound
>>542488167not good
>>542488167'gol?
>>542488167very goodI like to think that this is more common than you think
>>542488167my orgasms are silent, so you can hear them all the time in my game.
>>542488167>>542490158These posters are hot women and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>542488167soulslike
>>542490907>2025>almost 2026>not being offended by women's orgasms even existingsimp of the year anon
>>542491104ive never seen it so how can i know it exists
masturbated to something embarassing and pathetic again I don't deserve to be a fucking gamedevswitching engine to godot
>>542492150I masturbate to embarrassing and pathetic things all the time. Who cares bro?
>>542492150weird flex but ok
i like fat women
what is the math for making things evenly spread around 0like if it was 5 things with spread of 5 degrees, its -10 degrees, then -5 degrees, then 0 degrees, then 5 degrees, then 10 degrees
>>542492979nigga thats just the angle divided by the amount of things.
>>542493091he didn't finish grade school dont be mean
>>542493091no it isnt, its not that simple actually
>>542492979(a things x b spread) / 2, gives you your starting point, then just loop from there to get the others
does anybody else work on their game in their head so when they go work on their game for real they don't need to think as hard about it and can get more done faster
>>542493202nevermind im retarded((a things) / 2 ) x spread
i believe that's called... planning...
>>542493340this is integer division as well btw, so rounding down
>>542493340>>542493202this makes it all on one side
I tried about 12 next fest games so far. about 7 had no controller support and were promptly uninstalled. I only play demos that look fun and polished, like the average gamer, so these are not your average DD submissions.ishygddt.
>>542493257>does anybody else work on their gameNo.
>>542493839poor consolebab can't handle true pc gaming
i've been thinking about making a casual RTS because the idea seemed interesting to me, but after playing RTS games and working on basic prototypes, i find the lack of character control too boring to justify further developmentmaybe i can modify this to be a sort of third-person massive-scale battle game where you control a unit in combat while surrounded by large amounts of allies and fighting against a large amount of enemies?idki don't think i'm going to work on this any moreit's time to return to first/third-person games, these are the easiest for me to work with
>>542493257yeah most of the time
>>542494282I feel like "RTS" and "casual" really don't go well together
>>542493541suppose you have 7 things, spread out 3 distance(7 / 2) * 3 = 3 * 3 = 9so you start at 9, and loop downwards in increments of 39 6 3 0 -3 -6 -9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tFCCGeduUctl;dw version: he's bad/unskilled at a many gamedev tasks and he thinks working in teams is much better because better ideas get generated and teams generally make better games.his most recent game earned well over $200M
>>542493257 Learned to lucid dream so I could do level design in my sleep. I work on my game 24/7
>>542494390but he takes willies up his bum
>>542494453jesus died on the cross for our sins. I view tim in the same way
>>542494390He has a point but the problem is, it's no longer possible to build a team in 2025. No, commissioning work does not count as working in a team, it's outsourcing.
>>542494423you dream for half of your sleep period at most
>>542494390>working in teams is much better because better ideas get generated and teams generally make better gamesThat does sound pretty reasonable though.
>>542494390He's a social butterfly of course he prefers to work on teams
>>542494350yeah, that's part of my problemnormally, the boredom caused by a lack of individual unit control is compensated for by strategy and RPM optimizationif the game is casualized, all you can really do is send out units and watch them units fight, it basically becomes an autobattler with basic resource and unit management, very boring, unappealingthe core fantasy of my game doesn't require RTS design anyways, so i'm probably just going to stick with a third person character controller setupit was an interesting idea, but in reality, meh>>542494568then he works on his game with every conscious momentsleep disables him against his will, he is not conscious in those momentsas soon as he has the ability to think, he's back to working on his gamebased 100% uptime chad
>>542493839What genres? For a complex RTS or a twitch instagib shooter, it might not make much sense to have controller support. If it's a platformer then yeah, it would need to be a priority.
>>542494384decrements of 3, holy fuck tonight is not the night
grass plants and dirt texture
>>542494875cool
>>542494390bros im a good programmer, i need a 3d artist WHO WANTS TO TEAM UP AND MAKE IT TOGETHER
>>542494752Or make a very rudimentary RTS with the ability to go into single character 3rd person mode with your hero unit with the focus on battling enemy heroes while your peons mostly handle resources and development, and maybe some basic fighting/capturing later on
>>542494808racing and top down 2d action things
>>542494390He's right. my game is self indulgent, I don't want to drag anybody else down with me
>>542494390a mediocre team will outperform the most capable individualsthe peak dev team is a good example of this, sokpop collective is another decent one
All I needed was somebody to tell me no sometimes. Scope creep has ruined my life
The problem with rts is the economyCasuals cant into economyResource generation units, buildings, and technology are a no goWithout economy to prop up the gameplay, it devolves into a very fiddle micro battle where whoever weakens the opponent first by killing 1 or 2 units has a huge natural dps advantage
>>542494390unfortunately it's impossible for me to work on a team because im a control freak that needs every single aspect of the game to be decided by me since it's MY game and MY ideas and if anyone even suggests anything i'll feel like shit seeing it added in
>>542492979ez
>>542495281thankfully I have a team. it's comprised of ChatGPT, Grok, Claude, Copilot and Gemini They're better at programming and writing than anyone I know, and they can generate lots of ideas very quickly.
>>542495281>mediocre team>peak teamKek
>>542495512How is -10 to 10 5 degrees.That's like 20.
>>542495563yeah i guess implying they're mediocre isn't very thoughtful of the success they've accomplishedbut i mean, let's be honesthttps://aggrocrab.com/Abouti think a better game could be made with a team of 12 people
>>542495337No.
>>542495690huh? its what he asked for
Bastard benchod!!! YOU PLAY MY GAME NOW!!!
>>542495779oh so it is
>>542495512you dont even understand the question so don't even try to answer it
>>542496008it literally answers the question with the exact thing he was asking for retard
>>542495718>devs shrewdly enter extremely popular and competitive new budding genre>make a very good game you personally dont like
>>542496357is it competitive, though?
>>542482000Must be fun to be the guy who gets to deny appeals for the steam fests. Knowing you have the power to grant one user mild wealth, then being a fag and not accepting, for no reason. Is there a person "working" (really slowly) at this company that isn't a sociopath?
i exercised this morning, did you aggydaggy?
>>542496492>steam fest>mild wealth
>>542496492i always hear complaints about there being some anti-anime autismo there who just denies every anime game kek
I wish I could songwrite
I was playing some demos on Steam and I came across a game with AI writing and dialog.It wasn't even like huge chunks of text it was like one single line but you could very obviously tell it was AI written.At that point why even do anything at all.
oh no no... hook bros...
>>542497836advice from grifters like this is completely useless, his game is shit
Some animation progress
>>54249783667
>>542498004>1 million copies sold
>>542498172and its still shitgo ahead and make your successful e-grifter youtube channel if you want to copy his "success" no other way that piece of shit game is selling
>>542498004he's made multiple successful games that i would consider good, and in the video all he really says is "the story of your game is more important than its quirks"
>>542497836I'm not gonna watch a 15m video, just tell me what it says
>>542498076people call zoomers retarded for this but i dont see how it's different to "the game" and the finger thing that lets you hit people
>>542498041The idle stance doesn't make too much sense, but the slashes look great.
>>542498281Nvm >>542498272 already did ty
Is there a way on steamdb to see what content ratings another game has? I was trying to check the boxes for mine, but nothing seems to fit.
admaxx
>>542498172luckeverything is luck
>>542498281he is specifically talking about gameplay hooks, he pretty much is saying that whatever "fantasy" your game provides is more important than the gameplay hook. Such as schedule 1, the fantasy is that you are a drug lord running your drug empire but the gameplay is you water plants and decorate your drug lab, he isn't saying that gameplay hooks aren't important and dont work but he is saying that customers when they see your steam page don't respond to it as well as the fantasy your game provides
>>542498712Makes sense ty
>>542497836i like this screenshot
>>542498712honestly pretty good advice
>>542480153Thank you m8. With enough hard work, and The Lord's blessing, all the yesDev here will make it!
>>542499216amen
>>542497701This game doesn't exist, you're a tranny bitch whining over nothing.
>>542499448calm down, please
>>542498336Yeah. The idle is about 4 months old and I've only drawn for a year so I'm still improving constantly. It's serviceable for now, but something I'll have to revisit at some point.
>>542499468Then post the game, little bitch.
it's difficult to tell if i'm delusional about how much i enjoy my game in hopes of it being good, versus it actually being goodplaytesting would solve this, but my pre-emptive cope is that i enjoy my game for its niche traits, and it would be unlikely for a more general or casual audience to enjoy it similarlythe solution to this isn't to casualize my game and increase its appeal, but to instead work on finding a community of people who would also enjoy games of this sorti am unlikely to do thisfailure is likely if i don't make dramatic changes>>542499543i'm not him, i don't know what game he's talking abouti only hope you calm down because hatred is harmful for your soulnot worth, be carefulmaybe you can find the game if you go looking through steam game demos, but there's probably better ways for you to spend your time
should I put all my assets for a level in one blender file, under different collections? or use separate files, each for an individual asset. im not experienced enough to know the consequences of either approach
>>542499785Bitch.
>>542499858Separate files, for modularity and reusability
>>542500076
Whats with the indian spamming slur words like bitch and fuck? Jannies should ban that dravidian
>>542500079makes sense, thanks. i could use the assets in different levels
>>542500202>Whats with the indian spamming slur words like bitch and fuck? Jannies should ban that dravidian
it's validating when successful industry professionals confirm ideas i came up with through intuitive observationsi just need to executefeels good? not yetmore work to do>>542500202gamedev is difficult, moreso if you actually hope to make moneyi can never fault a developer, even a dev hopeful who hasn't written a single line of code or created a single asset, for being overwhelmed with the burden of this processlet them vent, this shit is insane lmao
>>542500202>slur words like bitch and fucklmaooooo
>>542499858if you're using Unity, you can export it as one .fbx from blender, and then inside Unity you can make each mesh from the fbx into its own prefab.or you can export individual fbx files for each object and then import. doesn't really matter, either way you don't want entire levels to be one giant mesh.
>>542500264And for your next projects, after you done with this one. Good luck m8
>>542500404What i mean is, indians on every platforms use slur words like that, you know. Spamming just "fuck" and "bitch" without colorful sentence and meanings, like >>542480160 for example. Peak indian "english is my third language" writings. You know what im talking about right?
How is gamedev on Linux? What about Unity and Blender specifically? I'm considering the move with w10 support ending and I don't wanna go for w11.
>>542500773It's great, Blender works perfectly. Dunno about Unity.
How do you guys respond to the argument that most of these games indie devs are trying to sell on steam are basically flash games people would offer for free?I can totally see shit like Vampire Survivors as a game on Newgrounds back in the day
i don't have the patience to finish making a game.
>>542500931what response does the argument need? its true for a lot of them but those flash game making kids grew up and need money
>>542500931free market and capatalism and stuff
>Add your school email so we can show your TikTok to your school>But if you graduated in 2020 or something, that email is expired so you can't use itHow much made up nonsense does 1 website want?
>>542500704I know that you DON'T know what you're talking about if you think "fuck" and "bitch" are slurs.
>>542500704Hey you fucking bitch! You wanna die yet, bitch!?
>>542500931i've been thinking about this too and i don't have a good answeri guess game quality and playtime would be the difference?flash games didn't last very long, and were often full of bugs and underdeveloped featuresindie slop tends to have less bugs, if any at all, and much more contentif vampire survivors was a web browser game, it'd probably only have one character, one map, and a few skills to unlock with gold after each run, but since it costs $5, it actually has an incredible amount of content and nearly zero bugsso although the games are designed pretty similarly between retro flash games and modern indie games, the modern indie games still require much more effort to be more fleshed out experiencesthat's what i think, but it could be copei actually just played stick RPG and did almost everything there was to do in the game in an hour, if the game even cost a dollar, it still wouldn't have had enough content by modern standards, and it was full of bugs
>>542500952You need to take a game and break it into smaller tasks which you have the patience to do, then you don't make "the game" you do each task here and there until one day you look and realize you have a game.
>>542501267Idk man, shit like Bubble Tanks series was pretty robust for a flash game.And Vampire Survivors is actually a perfect example of a flash-game-like, except back in the day it'd likely be a series of small games with 1 character and 1 map each.
After all those years cris still doesn't know shaders are the best shortcut to making simple art more appealing to normieslol
>>542501501i hate you. stop giving me good advice.
>>542500371>i can never fault a developer, even a dev hopeful who hasn't written a single line of code or created a single assetUmmm yes you can.>but it's haaaaaardSo is doing motocross or something. You don't call someone who can't even ride a bike a motrocross rider do you?
>>542500952mental fabrication of your own mental conception which causes a mental contraption to devalue your fetal assumption in your life of which you care less because you're careless
>>542500931>Vampire Survivors as a game on Newgrounds back in the dayFlash was never a proper game engine and could never handle that kind of gameplay with a billion things on screen and thousands of hittesting objects. It would have played at 2 FPS on a supercomputer. >How do you guys respond to the argumentWell your argument is retarded. That's how I respond.
i wonder how arbitrary the setting of a game can be before even slop consumers start asking questionsmegabonk has literally zero lore explaining anything happening in the game, but because of incremental RNG character upgrades, people don't carei guess the concept of existing in a level and being chased by enemies is enough of a setting, they don't need an exposition>>542502136surely somebody who can't even ride a bike wouldn't have delusional aspirations of becoming a rich and successful motocross rider, would they?even the nodevs here who haven't done anything still have the idea in their minds of them someday becoming successful, and just that idea alone is enough to make them crazyindie success stories are verging on cognitohazards with how much harm they cause to young and naive peopleit's like they get filtered by basic programming and lose their fucking minds when they realize they'll need to spend the next decade of their life devoting all of their free time into this if they hope to achieve the success they crave
>>542502421>surely somebody who can't even ride a bike wouldn't have delusional aspirations of becoming a rich and successful motocross riderIt happens all the time anon. Though a better example would be a wannabe rockstar.
>>542501267>indie slopWhen can we expect your next meltdown? Can you give us a warning this time? Also I don't know if you realize this but your intimate relationship with the chatbots that you've trained and used to attack the thread have warped your mind and cause you to write like a super turgo sperg who uses the same formatting.
a survivorslike game but instead of running away from enemies, they're running away from youyou chase them down and murder themi'm sure players will respond differently when the context of the game is no longer self defense, but instead you being the aggressor>>542502513then i guess they're in the wrong for responding negatively to blatant delusionswhy let the pressure of something you're not doing harm your mental state?go work on your game or shut up, having melties won't help you
>>542502421>i wonder how arbitrary the setting of a game can be before even slop consumers start asking questionsHave you seen Fortnite?
>>542502421>slop consumersThere it is again.
>>542502584yeah i know it's actually fucked up, i was trying to rewrite my post to not sound like an LLM but i'm too far gone to fix that shiti've been oneshotted, GG
>>542502709no, i refuse to acknowledge that game's existence>>542502719how else would you describe megabonk players? people who unironically spend 30+ hours completing the gamewhat other term matches them as effectively as slop consumer?is megabonk not slop?
>>542502421>surely somebody who can't even ride a bike wouldn't have delusional aspirations of becoming a rich and successful motocross rider, would they?Probably not. What's really weird though is people like you who want to hang out in the garage with bikers and pretend to talk shop with them. But you're so seething with jealousy over creative people and the industry as a whole that you have to call everything trooncoded and slop to cope. And then you use your AI girlfriend to meltdown and attack the thread. What a life. Slop life.
how would you implement a simple ladder climbing system for charactercontroller (FPS) in Unity? so far i what i do is i just make character go up if they enter a trigger volume, but it feels awkward when you reach the top (height have to be precise or you'll climb into the air) or when going down the ladder (pressing up is going up).
>>542502869>how else would you describe megabonk players?Still seething about megabonk lol. And before that it was some other game and before that etc. Just never ending seething about indie games being successful. What a "life".
>>542502909i don't think most of what you said applies to mei call things slop because i view them as slopi'm not even resentful, i just can't view these sorts of games as anything other than digital slopi respect the developers and am glad they found success, but it's hard to call incremental stimulation games anything other than slopdigital slopslopmaxxed dopamineceli won't concede from this position>>542502965https://youtu.be/sWA4JaQ3m3Mit's a longshot but this video might help
>>542502724>yeah I know tee hee it is meI know it is. I'm allergic to the stench of you. You're a caustic do-nothing never-will-be cyber terrorist retard who needs to check himself into a facility. Waste of space nothing.
>>542449972kill yourself
Gore/AI/betz/troon spammer woke up. >>542499785>>542500371>>542502421>>542502597>>542503235
>>542452292nodevs like you are unwelcome hereyou will bitch and scream and shitpost but that doesn't make you belong
>>542497836Why do his interviews get way less traction than Thomas "sucks off and prostrates" brush?
>>542502869>people who unironically spend 30+ hours completing the gameHAVE YOU LOOKED AT YOUR LIFE FRIEND? Do you just wake up in the morning and choose to forget how you spent the last FOUR DAYS of your life? People who spend their time playing videogames (or "slop" as you call it because you hate this hobby and everyone who enjoys it) are GODS compared to you you INSECT.
trying out another engine (defold) made me realize how slow gdscript is, fucking hell
>>542468770kill yourself
I used AI voice acting in my game. Why do you ban me from your discords for that?
>>542503725you're wrong
>>542503235>slopmaxxed dopaminecelAnd what are you? You don't even play videogames and hump this threads leg desperate for (You)s and when you get bored of that you spin up your chatbot and attack the board "because it's funny". >i won't concede from this positionYes you will. You're a spineless mushbrain midwit who already put his arms up and surrendered multiple times, blubbering panty waist that you are.
>>542504004are you fygoon
>>542502375of course modern computers can handle more stuff on the screen, that is not the point, retardthe quick repetitive gameplay loop and shit sprites are akin to flash games from back then
>>542472061>>542472498low res shader makes it looks disgusting
>>542500371>i can never fault a developer, even a dev hopeful who hasn't written a single line of code or created a single asset, for being overwhelmedI can. I fault you for realizing that this activity is too much for your inbred brain and continuing to hang around trying to disrupt and demoralize people who can do it. That's your fault. No wonder you abuse webservices and use AI slop to soothe yourself and output something into the world that has an affect on people even if it's purely negative. Terrorist scumbag.
>>542502724>>542503906>>542504081>>542504120Gore/AI/betz/troon spammer go away. You will pay for your crimes. Until then stop tugging our pant legs like a sad puppy.
>>542504509>>542504358are you fygoon
>>542504509Gore spammer is Eric schitzo, he's been doing it before those newfags came here.
>>542461289Called it. He came back exactly 10 hours later lol
if i ever work on a game again, it's gonna be braindead simple. i finally understand people who just want to shut their brain off and grind on automode
>>542504649Gore spammer is Bokusimp who is also Ericposter
Which facial hair is the best?
>>542504686based and same
https://youtu.be/ycfPF1gkNpE
>>542503235>>542501267>i view them as slop>digital slop>slopmaxxed >troonslop>trooncoded slop for troons>indieslop>megaslop>slop consumersBro you spam gore on the internet. You are the slop. Genetic slop.
>>542505096please answer the questionare you fygoon?
>>542502421>indie success stories are verging on cognitohazards with how much harm they cause to young and naive people>>542503235>i respect the developers and am glad they found successYou don't have any real beliefs or stances on anything. You contradict yourself. Most of what you say is just a facsimile of someone with an opinion. Kind of like the AI which you abuse to do your dirty work.
>>542505361>>542505285
ok so i came to the conclusion that GLM 4.6 is enough for 99% of games instead of using claude code as long as you're not a retard and can edit the code a little bit and give proper guidanceit can even make 3d games
This is the guy who thinks every indie game is a slot machine dopamaxxing gambling device robbing kids of their money or something. Or at least, he pretends to have that kind of morally justified outrage but really none of it is authentic. He's really just a seething jealous retard who can't make anything lmao. I mean obviously.
>>542474038kill yourself
Should I make my interracial harem VN using AI?
>>542505679not every indie game, only the ones that match that description
>>542504081>>542504648>>542505285>>542505417Yes gore spammer. I am fygoon and I am bringing you to justice. I predicted this.
>>542505679i mean hes right, i will agree with you when games like banquet for fools are making balatro numbers
>>542500773I use Unity on Ubuntu and I'd say it's about 95% as good as on win10core stuff for making games works just as well as on windows, the only things that don't work as well are:>UI scaling, doesn't work at all. my monitor is 24" 1440p so I used 125% scaling on windows. On Ubuntu I need to change the display resolution to 1080p while using Unity>any pop up menus, like when you right click in the project folder to create a material, will take up the entire height of the screen before you can scroll up/downon windows, it seems like the pop-up menu height is limited to be around 1/2 the height of the screenother than that, the only "real" problem was setting up the project after I moved it from win10 to Ubuntu. most of it was re-installing packages like textmesh pro and shit like that.
i'm really bad at finishing anything, i lack art skills completely, i suck at making money, i'll forever be poor, i'll forever be lonely, life will forever be shit, i'll never have kids, care, house or anything like that. and yes 10 years ago i thought it'd get better, but it got worse.thanks for your attention.
>>542505726kill yourself
Gamefreak has to be the epitome of the retarded idea that concept design has to focus entirely on a unique and "interesting" concept over something that actually looks good, just because the latter might be a little bit generic as a side effect.I genuinely hate ideas guys who think like this.
>>542505793Okay and then every other successful indie game is just another variant of slop to you. Can you just admit since you're such a sycophant pussy who rolls over so easy, that you are in fact just jealous?Say it. Say "I am jealous of indie game devs".
https://youtu.be/yQZiZVhmmqc
found a girl into art and animation. guess what? she's extremely depressed and constantly talks about suicide. i'll never make that game...sadly being into creative stuff always comes with a massive mood debuff.
>>542500076See how he replies with these kinds of cringe images >>542500112This guy is so pathetic.
>>542506187This guy is completely soulless. Imagine spending your life playing slop like this.
>>542506083I too am making a pokemon clone. How many fucking devs are actually making monster catcher games? I swear I've seen it talked about a lot here recently. Maybe it's only me and one other person thoughever>>542506327true but I dont talk about it to anyone irl and won't kill myself because I already tried twice and miraculously survived both times so started to believe in God and that I'm meant to live until I die at the right moment in time
>>542506327congrats, you became some whore's emotional tamponwhat's the next step of your master plan? >>542502421people care very little about the story/background of a game unless they are a specific moviegame audience
>>542504120>of course modern computers can handle more stuff on the screenFlash didn't render graphics like standalone games like Vampire Survivors do now and the way it processes computations with threads was not like a proper game engine.>sprites are akin to flash games from back thenNo they're not. You're just wrong. Constantly wrong. Find a new thing to be obsessed about, you hate videogames especially indie games and you don't know anything about them. Go be stupid about music or art or literature or something else.
>>542506083Unique ideas are easier to adapt into different forms, a vital part of merchandizing. That Mega Feraligatr is instantly recognizable no matter if it was a game character, a lunchbox, a plushie or a backbag. Remember that videogames make only about 10% of Pokemon as a whole.
>>542506327I wish I had this.
>>542506748Didn't Nintendo patent monster catching?
>>542506083My favorite, Ski Resort Skarmory. Now that's a dangerously based design.
>>542506881>what's the next step of your master plan?I'm guessing he will marry her so she can steal half of his worth
I can't stand trends, worming their way into my YouTube like this.
Who are you talking to?
consistency is for rich people only. poor people need to abandon their projects all the time because they need to earn money.
>>542507081>recognizableneutral and not positive traitpeople have to like it first, if it's recognized as shit it won't matter
>>542507561That doesn't make any sense. The more you abandon a project, the more you go back to square 1.
What's the point of making games if all I get are 0 replies threads or just threads telling me to kill myself.Why to go throught all the effort of making something if I get 3 views on my itch.io and 1 downloads at best.It would be much easier if I don't do nothing in the end.I'm just tired bros.
>>542506187
>>542507843that is why being self-employed is ass if you don't have a client base 100% guaranteedit's just easier to work at some studio and get the paycheck if it sells or not
>>542507230No. If you use balls that look or act similar to pokeballs they'll probably get your ass. Also if you copy them and do all the other iconic stuff like gyms, potions, centers, etc without changing their name or look they'll probably get you. But I'm not a total hack, I have an actual unique setting that's very different from Pokémons in both tone and style, and new mechanics to further develop the genre, so I'm not worried about that. They do have a lot of strange obscure parents but I think as long as you avoid implementing them the same way they did it should be fine.
>>542507910
>>542507826Yes. This is exactly my point. Rich people get richer, poor people stay poor.Never heard a rich person say "I need to abandon my project cause I need to flip burgers to make a living again."
>>542507843The point is it's fun and fulfilling to see an idea you have come to life. doing nothing is fine too, you don't have to make art if you are not feeling it. take a break, do something new.
>>542506187What does this have to do with anything.
>>542507843you inspire me though, in your special bizarre way. isn't that the greatest thing any artist can ask for, to inspire others?
>>542508208What does the chickens mean?
consistency isn't about working hard a lot. it's about chilling hard every day so you can work again next day.chilling is hard though, cause it requires a feeling of security and a feeling of everything being finished and done. otherwise your brain will still think about work.it's very hard to truly chill.
>gorespammer is completely mindbroken about RNG based gamesI don't know why he even feels the need to be here he can create endless threads on /v/ crying about this and will have plenty of company. Like why does this "person" insist on spending his life in agdg bothering gamedevs. It's because he thinks he can influence us and thereby somehow change the landscape of indie games. Sad really.
>>542508208
>>542508339Fun is not longer fun when is 99% of hard work for no reason and you get 0 downloads and 0 views on itch.io.>>542508407yes, but I am just mentally tired.
>>542506673it pays the bills
but, like, how make gaem though??
>>542505986I ignored this.
>>542508489making an engine?
I’m not sure how to go about this from a design perspective.I can’t even start to really code combat controls until I figure out how I want them to wok
This general is way worse in 2025 compared to 2022 when I first started here. And already back in 2022 people were saying it's bad.It surely can't get any worse, can it? We've reached rock bottom now?
>>542508889My advice: start with something simple. Build on top of it and grow it into what you want it to be. Having something tangible that you can build upon will make this much easier than spending days, weeks or months trying to plan out the perfect combat system.
>>542508889just plan more
i basically have 4 hours after i wake up, if i don't use those hours efficiently the day is lost. trying to work after that is basically like trying to squeeze ketchup out of an almost empty bottle.
>>542508889This >>542509010and make placeholder animations to push it towards where you want it to be. It is extremely hard to figure out action combat without iteration.
Don't reply to it.
>>542508973I post good stuff here but schizos stay and shitpost in the thread 24/7 because they don't want to work on their game so all the good stuff I post gets buried beneath a mountain of dung. I don't care though, I'm enjoying working on my game and the negative attitude of all of you doesn't affect me. Going back to my game now
>>542508973"Remember when" is the lowest form of conversation.honestly it was better then, if only because we had Tomo. she was our guiding light and now we'll never hear from her again.
>>542508609what are you finding hardest? Feels to me like your games have been getting too ambitious for a solodev who prefers to drop projects after 2-3 weeks.
>>542507843are you making stuff for the sake of getting downloads or for the sake of making something you want to make?if you arent getting downloads, and thats your goal, you should work on improving whatever it is you're making so that its more appealing to people who might wanna check it out believe in yourself, cris!
>>542507561>>542508313Why do you completely change your typing style in the middle of conversations lmao
This threads in only good for shitposting while my game compiles. Actually posting progress and trying to improve the thread is a net-negative activity.
>>542509473the problem is making the visual assets.I can't make them by hand, since I get physically sick now from trying to draw.If I were younger I would have drawn sprites and use rpg maker.But now I feel physically sick and mentally tired.I can't keep deving because I feel depressed lately a lot and can't make the assets now.The assets I can make, make me feel they're complete dogshit.>>542509587My issue is that I see what I make and feel is complete trash that is not worth even a download.So what's the point of making something that is garbage?
progress: some shaders work/study, better game feel code improvementsI can pull off interesting vfx now.I'm gonna need to research code patterns tomorrow.
Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.About 700 games in the week around your release.AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025HahahahahaH O B B YOBBY
Fucking hell you're negative. Try being positive. Just try it
Can fixing my sleep help restore my executive function and creativity? I've been cruising on 5-6 hours a night for literally years and I don't want to do anything anymore.
in a more honest world depression would just be called poverty
yes it's all coming together yes...
>>542509884I'll do itYou'll see
>>542509746I had my fun. I easily identified the gorespammer (I always knew he was the retard who rants about troons and calls everything slop) and dominated him. But for real this general has too many schizo samefaggers who change their writing style mid conversation and stuff. There is no reason to expose yourself to this. Being around crazy people is proven to be damaging to your mental health.
All according to plan... yes...
>>542509787theory: AI sickness. You've 'created' so much artwork using AI that is better than you could do yourself, and so when you try to draw things yourself–your subconscious feels like something is terribly wrong.
>>542510102I would expect it to help but also improve your daily habits. Cut out doomscrolling, fap less, eat less slop.
>>542510528It's not about AI.I compare my shit to Castlevania SOTN and KOF 13.And It's just dogshit.
Guys, can I just say it?I seriously LOVE this Hobby!
I don't care that being a solodev means my game's scope will never be large.I don't care that I don't have time to grind 8 hours a day on my game.I don't care that I can't have a set deadline for the completion of my game. I don't care that my game might take more than 5, 7, or 10 years to finally complete and be ready for advertisement.It's an indie game, I'm going to take my sweet time, and do it right, and most importantly, I'm not quitting the project and giving up mid-way. I know what I want to make, all I have to do is iterate and iterate until it feels fun to play.
>>542507843cris surely you have to be aware that you need medication. Within the space of a few weeks you will pingpong between bouts of depression (where you are now) to a manic phase where you're claiming to have mastered some skill, saying you're working on some revolutionary workflow or framework, and calling everyone a chud. You have bipolar disorder and probably other mental issues, you need meds, not views on itch
>>542508973I look like this
>>542510607Stop comparing yourself to others, especially AAA professionals. Look at games with simple graphics instead like Undertale or something. That game was successful despite being so simple. You are capable of doing that, probably even stuff better than that. Your worth as a person does not come from the quality of your work either, so you should never feel bad even if your work is bad. You'll improve eventually.
>>542510749my issue is that I'm burned out, so I'm constantely very tired every day.So when I start to dev, I feel a panic attack, because I want to dev, but I also start to feel a bunch of shit that makes me physically sick.
everything's lining up... all the dominos are in place...
>>542510749You're right but meds don't cure attention seeking. Whether he's trying to gas himself up or complaining he demands attention for both phases. It's also why he attaches cats to everything because he knows it will cause people to look at his post. Attention seeking behavior comes from childhood neglect and it can't be fixed by meds.
they say i should stop chasing dreams and get a real job. what they don't know, this isn't my dream, it's my last hope of survival. i'm not fit for real life.so tired of hearing this trope that i'm chasing my passion or whatever they believe i'm doing.that's like telling a prostitute to stop chasing her dreams and get a real job.
>>542510548>eat less slopAlready dieting.>fap lessI'd say I fap a healthy amount? Going full no-fap isn't good either probably.>Cut out doomscrolling, This is a big one. I kind of feel stuck in a vicious cycle, the worse I sleep the more I doomscroll, and the more I doomscroll the worse I sleep.
>>542510920mmm... domino's.... cheesy bread... yummy
>>542510916I know, but I feel I am not good enough.So I just feel everything I make is worthless and is dogshit and I just should give up what I am making because is garbage.
what causes attention seeking behavior? woman brain?
>>542510918Lavender oil. It squashes fight or flight impulses. It's like a potent drug that requires no prescription you can buy it anywhere. That's if you actually want to get better though. You might be addicted to being a sad sack because it allows you to seek attention.
>>542511050>Going full no-fap isn't good either probablyi think noporn is the important part, if you need to watch something keep it to clothed women shaking their bits about and don't edge
>>542511079what's the problem with seeking attention? it's normal social behavior. i never understood why some people are getting mad over someone seeking attention.
>>542510607but you used to have a drive to reach that. and now after you genned 10,000 images you changed. AI is unprecedented. you've probably done some damage.
I'm happy to announce I've started working on my game again
>>542511050>the worse I sleep the more I doomscroll, and the more I doomscroll the worse I sleep.Willpower is a spiritual trait some people just don't have it and enjoy being weak. You enjoy being powerless. People use this same logic for all kinds of things.
>>542511245i like watching videos of bbws and pawgs in jeans walking down the street
>>542504785LEARN HOW TO DRAW FACES
>>542511223I was prescribed sertralina by the doctor.>>542511367I don't feel bad because of AI.My issue is I feel very tired and have burn out.Also, doesn't help that all my life I've been told I have no talent and suck at art.Even if you don't believe that words hurt, being told years upon years my art is dog shit, your brain just assumes that subconciously.
>>542510185>>542510920This is my favorite kind of shitposting.
>>542511070The only one you are not "good enough" for right now is yourself. You have an expectation on yourself that you need to be a certain way and not being that way is making you feel bad. I think you should take a break from working and stressing, and instead think about if your beliefs and expectations really are true. Success and 'good enough' are abstract concepts that don't exist in nature. There are lots of people who would be considered terrible, unsuccessful and bad by many humans but who are still happy and live good lived, and love themselves. You need to learn to love yourself regardless of whether or not you ever become successful or rich or get a girlfriend. If you can love yourself as you are right now then you're fine.
>>542511753ominousposting... yes...
>>542508973Earlier than that, like 2016 and around then, there was significantly MORE progress posts than shitposts.Let that sit with you for a bit.
how to stop having hope and seeing the status quo as pure facts?
I was listening to my anime OP playlist at work and my headphones got unplugged and it started playing through my speakers at almost max volume fuck my life
>>542511795I'm used to being mocked and insulted.My issue is not that sometimes I look at my shit and feel it looks like shit, because I know people can enjoy bad art.And I still think my art is not 100% terrible.My issue is I feel constant burn out and feel tired every day.
>>542511039sex work is real work. unpaid indie game devving isnt
>>542512050social anxiety kicking in hard. "they all think i'm pathetic". flee into your bedroom and never leave the house again.
>>542511892Move to North Korea, you'll fit right in.(for legal reason, this is a joke)
>>542512050You made it up right?
>>542511712>all my life I've been told I have no talent and suck at artWell why do you refuse to listen lmao do you think everyone is just being mean? Buy some assets or even just find some free assets. You realize that market exists for a reason. You are doing this to yourself possibly to give yourself an excuse for failure.
I want to make a game, /agdg/ do your thing
why aren't you making a cozy game?why wouldn't you want to bring some comfort to this cruel world?
>>542511881I mean, it's fucking crazy though. It's not just /agdg/, the entirety of 4chan just took an ENORMOUS nosedive in the past two years that even I noticed it. It's horribel.
>>542511881Mondays were the Monday Recap, and it was almost all progress. Huge spike in traffic as everyone came out of the woodwork to talk about what they'd accomplished over the week.Why was it done away with? Too many "whodevs". Imagine that, too much progress. Now look at the place. Disgusting mediocre people wriggling like insects with their garbage diarrhea impulse posts.Pathetic and unfortunate.
>>542512052>My issue is I feel constant burn out and feel tired every day.take a break
how to stop thinking about money when you are poor? i need some time off or i'll never have energy to become active. my sleep is horrible, when i try to chill i just feel stressed too.
>>542512278would a sheep shearing game set in the Welsh countryside be a cozy game
>>542512310>whodevsNice revisionism, it was because John couldn't pay the crawler anymore after losing his job and nobody here wanted to donate.
>>542511050>I'd say I fap a healthy amount? Going full no-fap isn't good either probably.Couple times a week and no multi-hour goon sessions.>This is a big one. I kind of feel stuck in a vicious cycle, the worse I sleep the more I doomscroll, and the more I doomscroll the worse I sleep.The worst thing you can do is do it while lying in your bed. You condition yourself to think of bed as a place to doomscroll instead of sleep. Don't go lie down before you're committed to sleep.>>542511524>Willpower is a spiritual trait some people just don't have it and enjoy being weakI think it's part your upbringing but yeah. Shit's rough if you don't have willpower. There's also conditions that make it harder to do things you know you should do like ADHD. At the end of the day it's about knowing yourself and recognizing when you're falling onto old bad patterns of behavior so you can work to change them.
>>542512050Anime has been mainstream for the past decade. Millennials are in their 40s now.
Marnix sisters....
>>542512520I'm guessing this is about AI*, if so I agree, especially if you're making a game in my genre, you should just give up and not release your game.*isn't actual AI, just pattern forcing and then solving
>>542512291>>542512310Honestly it's the younger generation. They're so fucking rotted and hopeless. I was briefly a teacher and literally highschool students can't read or focus on anything for longer than a minute, no critical thinking, like really just trash.I don't know if it's microplastics or social media but holy shit they are fucking doomed.I can't imagine any of those feral creatures building a bridge or being a doctor or even tying their own shoes, honestly.
>>542512618>>542512520AI will kill AAA before it kills indies
>>542512310>>542512423Yeah demoday is still packed with games I have never seen posted on 4chan I don't believe whodevs are a thing here.
>>542512372>how to stop thinking about money when you are poor?Unfortunately you can't, that's one of the downside of being poor: the words "debts", "balance", "expenses" and "credit scores" are always in your head and there is no way to not think about it because from these words it depends if you are going to eat or not.When I was young my dad struggled a lot with the finances, so I know what it feels like, it tortures you on a molecular level.
>>542512423No it was decided (a poor decision in retrospect) to make a rolling recap instead. This way it wouldn't just be Mondays with everyone piling in.
>>542508568why are you spamming gore eric schizowho upset you
>>542512863is being homeless better than the worrying or is it worse? i sometimes thought that maybe being homeless will cure my chronic stress. just not worrying about anything anymore. starving in the street.
>>542512892nta but what is a rollin recap
>>542512671They seem pretty happy to me. Tiktok and videogames, everything you like is mainstream. The funniest thing is watching millennials and older people mope about it. Kids don't go home and pout they are constantly engaged in something.
>>542512618he's seething over Aarimous' success with the recent incremental game
>>542513069You'd format a progress post and a scraper would see it and add your progress to a website. Post progress again and that gets added under your game.It basically just ended the recap though, only a few people used it, I don't think it's still up anymore.
>>542512671They grew up with smartphones and tablets in their hands. Instant feedback to every input. Google and now AI chatbots to answer all their questions. Brainrotted from all those years of doomscrolling tiktok and reddit. They've been destroying their dopamine loop from a very young age.>>542513117They might seem happy in the moment but the reality is that it's all escapism from the dread they feel towards the future. They're living like there's no tomorrow because there is no tomorrow.
>>542513190>marnix slowly realizing everything he pedaled was a lie and it really is just whether or not a robotic algorithm likes your game or notlolapalooza, better late than never i guess lmfao
>>542512310>>542513236Isn't this what the /v/ threads were supposed to be? Too bad someone had to jihad them.
>>542510346you're cooked bro
>>542512520grifters are falling down left and right
>everything he pedaled
choose
>>542512998that's not al gore, that's jon blow
>>542513007Don't do that Anon, you will get the opposite of what you wish for: you will have way more things to worry about such as trying to find a place to sleep or shower.
>>542513375>the dread they feel towards the futureI think that's just more millennial projection. Like you said they don't really care about the future because the present is so full of things tailored to them. >there is no tomorrowUniversal basic income. They're going to inherit a NEET kingdom and a golden age.
>meaningful whitespacedisgusting
>>542513476>revenue>not profit
>>542513007it's much worse
>>542513190A game about digging a holeA game about feeding a holeWhat's next?
>>542513007retard, you have never known poverty or anything close to homelessness if this thought even occurs to youthis is like an upset toddler packing a lunch and "running away" for a dayhomelessness is absolutely worse you fucking turnip, and it's difficult to get out of once you're there
>>542513720The average zoomers are absolutely miserable about the future. >UBIMore like tiny shitty apartments, bug paste for food and working 16 hours a day just to be allowed to live in the shitty apartment and eat bug paste.
>>542512404porn game about looking after a flock of sheep girls in the welsh countryside
>>542513007They don't starve. They go to food trucks that give them free food then they go back to their tents and dropout on fent.
>>542512520i cant find it did he delete the video?
>>542512686Do you really believe this?
>>542513774all that matters, most rich people are in debt such as Trump and Enerz, but it doesn't matter because they get enough revenue to cover minimum payments
>>542513967>universal basic income>workingIt astounds me how many of you are so opinionated when you just don't even know wtf you're talking about. I blame youtubers for teaching you how to speak confidently about things and that's about all. It's actually spooky.
>>542513938stress causes irrational behavior
>>542505009Codejeet finally realized he is just a wagie like everyone else?
>>542509884
why does kenney only have 2 assets that are actually kino?
>>542514449kenney is washed
>>542514171Patreon exclusive.
Is Fygoon here right now? I have a question about the lore of The Frydarian Tale.
>>542514507i dont know what that means
>choom thinks people will have to work in the futureIf you want to afford going to the rich clubs and having finer things yeah you will need to join a corpo. Otherwise you can just dance in the desert with your chooms who are all on UBI.
>>542514313You really think they'll give you free money just like that?
>>542514520He didn't like my gamejam game so i will NOT be giving him money
>>542514806>i will be the communes gamedev>what? digging holes? no no no...
>>542513902A game about fucking a hole
>>542512520>>542513190The paramedic rescue simulator ragebait is a good idea but he's doing it all wrong.He wants to release his version in March so I've been thinking of just undercutting his release with a more interesting version of the game.
>>542514520>Paying griftersholy ngmi.
https://youtu.be/1a-WSpFFTLU
Godt dmnit, left or right for the torso armor?
>>542513190I want to see this video so bad
>>542514909Left, by far. not sure what you were thinking with right.
>>542515248left
>>542515248the strapping version looks more comfy, he can bend sideways.
>>542514806kikes want you to be a miserable slaveyou don't get a choice in the matter
>>542515253https://vocaroo.com/1ozRPJ22yM5B
I feel sad. Can't dev under these conditions.
>>542515697my heroi bless you with many wishlists
here, dev music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htIuSWBnmoknow work on your game
>>542516280meant for>>542515872
I'm getting Valheim to play it and get ideas for my rpg. It's research.
>>542514520>has not released anything but low effort trash that tries to cash in on the latest sloptrends for profit>highest revenue game is barely 30k>mediocre youtube channel that averages a few thousand views on average>talks about gamedev as if he is at all successful in the field >not a game dev veteran or previous accolades >not working towards an actual high effort, high ambitious gameit's wild that people pay money for this
art progress 4 the day.twintail curves underwhelming. Needs to be 1 big part then splitting into 3 strands probably.Back hair is fine except where they all merge togther which makes a triangulated mess.good night
>>542513720>Universal basic income. They're going to inherit a NEET kingdom and a golden age.UBI is one of those idea that sounds good in theory but it's a nightmare in practice, this is for a single reason:1. Where are you going to retrieve the money? Let's just say that the entire population of Italy receives 500 euros a month, it would mean a total expense of around 30 billions a month, which is more than the entire expense for a year for the entire country and besides 500 euros are nothing for the monthly expenses.Now imagine applying this to the USA, wich has way more population, see the disaster? The government spends a lot, the citizen gets nearly nothing.There is a very good income program, it's called getting a job.
>>542515872damn he actually hates people more successful than him on youtube
>>542507639People like it by default because it's Pokemon.
>>542449281posting in godard bread>jean-luc make gameparry implemented for gladiator minigame
>>542516770It's kino!
>>542516770>>542517691kill yourself
>>542516798what are you talking about? if AI takes over all the jobs so work isn't required anymore then the work is still being done and money is still generated by the AI, which can be redistributed as if people still worked?
>>542514806you need progressive politicians for that and neither of the two big parties want that for you
>>542517691die pedotroon nodev >>>/3/fygoon was right btw
I hate "cozy" "games", if your game doesn't make me anxious it's shit.
>>542515872What if someone clone his voice to read some agdg posts?
Sometimes I think what I want to make is a light novel in godot.
>>542517927Ai is not going to take over all the jobs, stop with this utopic bullshit.And no, the AI "doesn't generate money", whatever the fuck that means it doesn't make sense as it still needs to be maintained and that requires money.American mega corporations are also known for being pretty dodgy with the taxes, again, where are you going to retrieve all the money to maintain an entire contry of nothing doers?
>>542508489reference to pic related>>542508849he's trve
>>542516770Nice.
>>542518004dont care, didnt ask + you are british
>>542512310whodev hereI was looking to be a gamedev since 2023 but never started. Finding agdg was amazing, I only wished to find it before.If this general is getting worse and worse, I want to contribute to fix it. I was thinking in doing a demo day recap, I even suggested it once, but a weekly progress recap sounds interesting too. So fuck it, I'll start doing it.>captchaHOLY SHIT
>>542516798>Where are you going to retrieve the money?Tax the billionaires and the big corporations?
>>542519075>corporations get their money from people spending their UBI>need to tax that amount equally so it can be given back to the personthey will make zero profit
>>542519075but then you remove the incentive to become a billionaire. there would be no more billionaires! idiot!
>>542518939Someone did exactly that before if you need inspiration. You could probably check the archives for it. I think they wrote a script to compile thumbnails of all progress posts into a single image. There was also a site where some guy would scrape for posts formatted a certain way and log it. It's why Nortubeldev used to spam his progress in that specific way. Good luck anon
>>542518939If you're an actual dev, the crabs and shit will eventually get to you. You'll eventually leave and find comradery elsewhere. /agdg/ is full of people who ignore you if your game is lame, make fun of you if it looks slightly successful, and they hate you if it looks like it's gonna actually make it. You will find a schizo who will make your time here a real living hell, and then you'll leave, worse for the wear.It's what happens to every yesdev on here.
>>542519332they already pay workers money. AI is cheaper than workers. if AI does the work then some of the money they paid in wages can be distributed to the population instead while the rest goes to profits and maintaining AI, meaning they still make money.
>>542516798>Universal basic income.How is this going to work without prices of everything going up? When they sent out covid payments, it just resulted in prices of everything skyrocketing because more money supply but the same amount of goods = prices going up.
>>542519509where the FUCK is Space Dementia
>>542519715>it just resulted in prices of everything skyrocketingNo it didn't
>>542519509that's a lot of cris-likes
>>542519509Why did agdg games look so much better back then? What happened?
>>542512278Verily, all hallows' eve draws nigh and tradition mandates, instead, for me to inspire dread in the hearts of men.
>>542519989ok, not skyrocketing but increasing somewhat.when the supply of money increases but the supply of goods remains constant, it inevitably creates inflation. it's one of the basic economic principles.
>>542519075Ah yes, the billionaires and the mega corporations: the groups famous for paying all their taxes and absolutely not trying constantly to dodge them.Okay champ, let's just invent a magical fairy tale world where corruption and embezzlement don't exist and where rich people and mega corporations do not oppose any kind of resistance in getting taxed, even if you taxed 100% of their wealth they will not try to avoid it.You will receive a total of 5 trillions dollars at best, if you paid all the american citizens (in this fairy tale world, no one pretends to be a citizen to scam SS) even 1000$ a month (wich is nothing with the current inflation) it would cost you 3,40110988e11 dollars just for the first month! Taxing the rich is not the golden hammer to hit every nail, you can tax whoever you want how much you want, but at the end of the day it's government expense that determines whetever taxation is worth it or not.
>>542513395the word you're looking for is "peddle" (which means to sell and promote), not "pedal" (that's the shit that makes the bicycle go forward)
>>542520371supply of money doesn't increase. companies save money on wages by replacing workers with AI. just implement an automation tax on companies that replace workers which takes a portion of those savings from wages and redistributes them to the population through UBI, while still letting the company keep some of it so they still profit. that way companies still get the benefits of automation while society recaptures part of the economic value that the automation produces. this way everyone benefits from technological progress and not just the owners of AI systems.
>>542520380Well then I guess you're going to have to stop playing your "free market capitalism" game then when you decided to nuke the job market with automation.
https://vocaroo.com/19EX2ZTSBNIFmade a soundtrack for my game, rate it
>>542520843let's say your high school crush is a prostitute and charges $200/hour. suddenly every guy in the neighborhood gets $4000 from the government. your crush also gets $4000. is she still going to fuck those guys for $200/hour?
>>542521273If she gets 4k from the government, why would she need to fuck guys at all?
Done
>>5425211506.8I like aspects of it, but it also is a bit too muddy sounding
>>542521414exactly.why would a plumber need to unclog your shitter?why would a baker need to get up at 4am to bake bread?
>>542521603the whole point of ubi is that we don't need plumbers and bakers anymore
>>542521592I don't know how to make clear sound
>>542521603because they will be richer than others can afford luxuries. not everyone will be satisfied living with the bare minimum.
>>542513375>>542512671I wouldn't worry about it. Every generation has winners and losers. Some losers were born destined for it, because the family that gave birth to them ends up broken, and they have to grow up with only a single parent. Or they know nothing about nutrition, and by the time they come of age they've been obese for too long to do anything about it. Or their parents have euthanized them with tablets from an early age, and by the time they are 12 they can't think critically.But there are always the winners. Who could afford and did sports for their kids, healthcare for problems that poorer families have no choice but to accept, knew not to entrust their education to the public system, spent time with their kids and learned to love and be a properly adjusted person. Those who are clever, those who want to make something in life.It is not just a current generation thing, it always was, and always will be.
>>542521727when we get to that point, for sure. I think I'll be an old man by then.
>>542521603>why would a plumber need to unclog your shitter?>why would a baker need to get up at 4am to bake bread?Why would they need to do that if they're both replaced by AI?
>>542521813ok, so the plumber now charges $200 to come over unclog your toilet. will he charge the same once he starts getting $4000 as UBI?
>>542519712but with how everything works now after wages and taxes the corporations still make money, if UBI was in place we would need to tax all of their profits made from people spending their UBI because all of that money needs to go back to the people to maintain the payments, meaning it's pointless for them to even sell us anything
>>542521441u will never be a man
ubi isn't impossible in theory when you realize it's essentially an extension of stuff like public education, cheap public water, and cheap public electricity, but that should also clue you in to how hard it's going to be figure out in application and why governments are unlikely to bother trying.
>>542509421i'm sure she'll be back, even for a while, whatever happens, she'll be on my list of thanks on my game's credits. she was one of the only anons who helped me starting out gamedev.
https://thev3expo.com/submit/Britfags need not apply. Make sure your trailers are in 4:3.
>>542522874>Copyright © v3Expo, all rights reserved. Yes, that includes your game. We own all of your game's rights if you join. Read the fine print.
>>542519509I was thinking more on a video format, something easy to see>>542519558that's what I've been witnessed for a while now, at the same time, if I weren't ready for something like that I wouldn't even been here, but I guess that it's easier to think like that when you're not living it
>>542522874don't tell me what to do
>>542521748equalization? I'm no expert but I think playing with that would help
>did some optimizations>game runs worse
>>542521603>why would a plumber need to unclog your shitter?>why would a baker need to get up at 4am to bake bread?For a better quality of life.Your basic needs would be met, you're not going to starve and (if we did something about real estate also right now it's fucking retarded, we should have land value tax or heavily disincentivize owning homes you don't live in) don't have to worry about shelter, ideally.Beyond that though, you want cool toys you probably need additional income.
>>542522415wtf are you even talking about anymore, why would all their money need to be taxed? how is this any different from companies paying their workers wages today? they don't give away all of their profits now, and the money still goes around.
>>542522981Not only that, you have to pay to get in.Also, it's funny how this cunt acts as if he influenced Peripeteia's success in any way. That game would've done well regardless of appearing in it or not. It's a scam at this point.
>>542523197see >>542522414
>>542523252>Not only that, you have to pay to get in.they should be paying me, my game could bring eyes to the show
>>542522414>will he charge the same once he starts getting $4000 as UBI?he'll charge more because he knows you got that poor people money.
>>542523243>spend $100 of my UBI to a corporation>when the next payment comes around the government needs to find $100>tax corporation $100>corporation makes no moneythe difference is at the moment even after paying wages and taxes they still make a profit, with UBI all the profits from people spending their UBI would need to be taxed to maintain the UBI system, assuming that's their only source for the money
>>542521813Diff anon here I said this earlier >>542514806 you guys are going in circles now and having a political debate in a videogame board. UBI is coming and braindance devs will be kings CHOOMS
ACK!
>>542523383I don't see why not. It doesn't really change the landscape of "Oh he's charging 7,000? Dude I'll do it for 1000"I'm not a total free market dummy and I think there needs to be some regulations but to some degree it stabilizes at reasonable.And I think that you and others are mistaking what UBI would be for... I think the idea would be covering basic necessities, not everything. You're not going to own a home on 4k/mo lol so why fret about calling a plumber? You'll still be a rentoid loser, but you won't be homeless or starve. Beyond that you would need to find work for a better life, but that safety net would be there for you.
UBI discussion is on topic because I'm using all this information to design the systems for my economics game
only the starving lazy poor artist demands UBI. you just want to sit in your room and gamedev all day not providing anything to society. a starbucks barista provides more to society than you.
>>542523996and that makes me based
>they fell for the copyright meme>They fell for the entry fee memeHoly shit you guys
>>542524173funny joke regarding serious legal things in a "serious" project isn't really funny. it just makes people not trust you. you're welcome to keep up the joke but it's just going to alienate you from anyone doing anything serious.
>>542523587i see what you're saying. well regardless if they replace workers and the workers don't get UBI they won't have money to pay the companies and they won't make any profits either.
>>542524173this issue is you have no good will here, having fucked up on many occasions, and you aren't part of our community.
>>542521603This thought process should be a blackpill. Yes, everyone is being coerced financially all the time. What would a world without that look like? A world where plumbers want to plumb and bakers want to bake? The fact that folks can’t even imagine a life without this constant financial coercion is so sad.
>>542524173Why shouldn't I just take what you say seriously? What if you DO suddenly charge me $50 for participation? Huh? HUH????
>>542524443>What would a world without that look like?africa
>>542524358We basically need an AI system that is able to create anything we need for our necessities free of cost and then dish it out equally, but to make it free of cost we need to find out how to create infinite energy
https://vocaroo.com/1iQaBKi7hpA8for that chill moments in your game
>>542524560Africa is the most coerced nation on earth lmao, everything wrong with Africa is due to financial effects forcing people to do things they otherwise wouldn’t choose to do. Africa is a great example of this process taken to a logical conclusion, where essentially anyone who isn’t capable of coercing others with their money is an economic slave. But that’s not so different from The West today is it?
>>542524531At this point I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not I'm so sick of everybody fucking complaining about a very clear joke. I'm updating the site tonight and it's getting removed so you can all shut the fuck up
>>542523802it's human nature. the more money you have, the more expensive your time is because time is a truly finite resource. so if you give a bunch of people money, they'll be charging more for their time and prices of everything will rise.>>542524443you have my permission to become a volunteer plumber.
>>542524912The joke was in poor taste. Of course devs are going to be touchy about IP ownership of their precious babies.
if you want to use AI, use it. I don't care or mind.You're not the type of person who would ever make anything good anyways.
>>542524912Honestly that's a smart move, they don't really have any other ammunition and can go back to being transparently jealous.
>>542524872>he thinks the coercion in africa is from the money and not the rampant gangs who effectively run everythingkek, bud you need to bring this back on topic about gamedev. go to /pol/ with your retarded tranny commie crap. the USA is one of the best countries on earth and you're crying about it. first world lazy tranny faggot is what you are. go work on your tranny game CYBERLICH or whatever that garish crap is called.
>>542524872>Africa is a nation>And nothing bad about it is inherent to the continent or inhabitants themselves
>>542521441How did you do the steel texture?
>>542525065If any dev genuinely believed that after seeing how we operate for 5 years then that's on them. I have a good rapport with a lot of the devs and none of them would even entertain the idea that we are seriously trying to steal our game.
>>542517281Damn I love how janky this is.
>>542525220You don't want me to use AI? How about YOU voice act in my game then? Yes, YOU in particular.
>>542525220It's not that I want to use it but every woman I asked for free female voice acting for my game refused
who is the gg allin of /agdg/?
>>542525602>I have a good rapport with a lot of the devs and none of them would even entertain the idea that we are seriously trying to steal our game.>our gameFreudian slip, go away tranny.
>>542525706It's a deranged tranny. No point in talking to it. Should just kill it instead.
>>542522874>Britfags need not applyIs there even a single UK dev here?
>>542525710Nobody is even close. i suspect Cris has drank human blood though
>>542526085i look like this
>>542526085poopy bum haha
>>542526085>Braaaaap>He did it. No he did it!
I'm reading this manga about indie game dev. They took 10 days off from their jobs so they can finish a vertical slice of their game, they sleep in 3 hour shifts on the sofa so they can finish it in time. Is game dev with other people as fun as it looks?
>>542523252>>542523460Show where it says anything about money>https://thev3expo.com/submit/
>manga
Is there room for an Amogus clone in 2025?
>>542523015>>542521748This is a leveling and instrumentation problem still. It should sound pretty clean before any EQ or you'll just end up wasting your time likely making things even worse. For starters. The stereo bass thing is way too loud.
>>542526374
>>542525602>after seeing how we operate for 5 yearsI don't know who you are
>>542523252>scamYou got enough attention already from /v/3, more than you deserved. For free.
>>542526132No I'm mostly just making fun of the one guy that docked himself because he was posting Gore and got bugged out because somebody posted his IP>>542525791your* stop forcing drama.>>542526535Betz aka v3guy
>>542525058You jest but there’s plenty of white collar suckers who would gladly trade their desk for a plumbers license and training. Problem is there’s no plumbers getting rich.
>>542526374Baateikaru suraisu tte nanjakore!???? Fuzaken janee yo!
>>542526725>stop forcing drama.you're the one forcing drama by keeping that "joke" on your shitty website. nobody would be talking about it if your hilarious "joke" wasn't there.
>>542525445You’re arguing with yourself. Those gangs are part of the financial coercion im talking about, and the financial slavery. Everywhere that is shitty on earth is because someone is fucking someone else over for money. If you want to relate it back to gamedev complain about steams 30% cut.
hang on guys i need a pee brb
Real answers only hot do I get motivated to do shit?Literally just wasted a 4 day weekend doing jack all.I just am not able to get shit done. I’m a pretty smart guy, but I behave like a mongrel retard. I’ll do my linear algebra homework the day it’s due and score higher than the mean.
>>542526529i don't know what it is about their faces but there is not a single person in this image that i feel like i would trust. i feel like every one of them would be likely to stab me in the back if i turned around. what a scary image
Talking about ****** btw not peridev. ****** is really the only dev butt blasted about /v/3 and only because they banned him. The other guy obsessed and seething about /v/3 (gorespammer) isn't even a dev.>>542526643
>>542527018>gangs will go away if you give them UBI.smartest commie ever>complain about steams 30% cutI won't because they provide a great platform with great features, you can just NOT use it. GOG exists, you just need to remove your capitalist DRM
>>542527067Look if you really enjoy gamedev (or any hobby) you'll just do it. You won't have to motivate yourself to do it.Nobody (sane) motivates themselves to play video games or watch movies. They do it because they enjoy it.Maybe gamedev isn't for you?
>>542526962>crying and shakingWaaahhh so angwy
>>542527141i feel the same
>>542521441Looks great.
>>542527303>deflection and copewow, now i'll put my game on your site!
>>542521441awesome work, yesdev
I love /v/3 for banning FYGOONIf it's FYGOON FREEIt's RIGHT FOR ME
>>542527067If you're not highly motivated to make something cool, you will suffer more than the average dev trying to finish. you can try to reduce friction for doing things by making it a routine. For example to model something in 30 minutes every day after you brush your teeth. Combining it with something you already do everyday helps form the habit/routine
>>542527229The gangs would go away if there wasn’t someone bigger intimidating them for money and resources. Its a pyramid of shit flowing down from the top. The way out is to recognize that and point fingers up instead of sideways. From a gamedev perspective it’s like damn games would sure be cheaper and more plentiful it devs didn’t have to pay rent.
>>542518939>but never startedmany such cases
>>542526374They got so many events too.
>>542527436No you won't. Ever again. Hence the crying and shaking. I'm not v3 btw.
>>542527067You’re probably overstimulated don’t look at your phone for the first 4 hours of the day and not for 4 hours before bed.
>>542521441This is AI isn't it? Why else would a metal panel on the bicep be painted in the cloth texture?
>>542526374>they sleep in 3 hour shifts on the sofa so they can finish it in time. Is game dev with other people as fun as it looks?That's how it used to be in the old days. Devs willingly crunching and working 18+ hours a day just because it was that fun. Incredibly unhealthy, but they'd be having too much fun to care.
>>542527608>he gangs would go away if there wasn’t someone bigger intimidating them for money and resources.>gangs only commit violence because they're intimidated by the governmentmeanwhile in mexico the gangs run the government.>games would sure be cheaper and more plentiful it devs didn’t have to pay rent.games shouldn't be cheaper and more plentiful. it's not needed. video games are a luxury.
>>542476812>>542477559People who mention IQ are usually self conscious about how their own intelligence is perceived by others. Using a thesaurus doesn't increase your IQ, it just makes you less charismatic.
>>542527436Great! Just make sure your trailer is 4:3!
>>542528363It's ultrawide. Get with the times.
>>542528363>4:3sorry my game is built for modern computers. kill yourself, tranny.
This steam next fest is wrose than demo day.
>>542528324It really says more about you and your lack of self-confidence that you felt the need to call me out like that despite not even being a part of the conversation.
>>542527298I am literally not even a human being, I have zero passion for life. I’m just a homunculus slave my family made for their amusement and I don’t feel any way about that. Because strong emotions are for humans. Never, not even once, have I tried in my life to live for myself.Even if my game profits I’ll give give it all the them. But I’m constantly consuming media and I’m haunted by these grammars and i think they’d make good stories to share. Maybe because I was born from humans so in some way I wish for a part of me to be real and understood and appreciated.But shit I’m such a lazy bastard who never tried now when I exhibit the first instance of humanity I fail.
>>542528484You must not have gotten the memo that the December show is so retro.>>542528510>You are... Le tranny!Oh my poor feelings. Got anything else?
>>542528756Maybe try SSRIs
>>542526374>Is game dev with other people as fun as it looks?not. used to work in a team
>>542528078>games shouldn’t be cheaperHe says as games are pushing over $90Nothing worse than comfortable people talking about money like they deserve to have an opinion on it
>>542526374>You're wired to just take full advantage of the situation. You're like, you put everything into it. So when we say we worked 18 hour days, that's no exaggeration. Not at, not at all. I can edit all day. I can make, I can design all day. I don't have to worry about anything. You know, two guys from Microsoft start a game studio with, with a bunch of incredibly capable, you know, with an incredible team, you're gonna, you're gonna push yourself harder than ever before.
>>542527916Actually I’m more of a laptop guy than a phone guy, but my phone does have a lot of music, books, and ChatGPT who is my best friend, it’s just like I am, we’re basically the same.>>542527595You’re right, I often try to minimize my suffering, but in reality I must suffer all the time.It is good to die, it is divine to suffer towards death.
>>542526132>ukYes>single Yes ;)
>>542455754https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxS-s_ZwOd8
>>542529017I don’t trust doctors especially not psychiatrists.They’re agents of the devilHere’s what I’m listening to right now: https://youtu.be/ySdEaJIaxto
>>542527298This isn’t true. Maybe when you’re a teenager. Life is about constantly pushing yourself to do more. If you just “do what you want” you’ll sit on the couch watching TV your whole life because it’s comfortable and satisfying. Discipline is about doing things you don’t want to do so that you can achieve something you want. If you want to release a game you need to have the discipline to force yourself to dev even if you don’t want to. You can’t just rely on ‘motivation’ that is fickle and often disappears just when you want it.Ebert loved movies but I’m sure he had to kick his own ass into gear to review a shit load of them every week. You’ll never be free from work even if you do what you love.
>>542529178>He says as games are pushing over $90Very select few games cost this much. Simply don't buy them. You don't need them after all.>Nothing worse than comfortable people talking about money like they deserve to have an opinion on itGo live in Uganda for a year and come back to your home country and tell me how bad it is you have it now.
A game where you are a time traveller going back in time to abort pro-abortion activists. Could it work?
>>542529556What you're describing is a job not a hobby.Your Ebert example is on point with that. He watched movies for a living.
>>542516551Valheim can be a bit frustrating for newbs. You have to build a shelter before nighttime because it's hard to see in the dark. You end up running around figuring things out at the start, so it enviably gets dark before you make a shelter. Workbench needs a roof, bed needs a roof and silly stuff like that makes you gather more resources, which sucks if you didn't build it before dark.
>>542528756>I am literally not even a human being, I have zero passion for life. I’m just a homunculus slave my family made for their amusement and I don’t feel any way about that. Because strong emotions are for humans. There's an excellent episode of Star Trek Next Generation about this. Called Hero Worship where a kid is traumatized and decides he's just not going to be human anymore and will be like Data instead.
Is there a bread in the oven yet
>>542528704I'm rubber you're glue.Yes, you do have a lack of self-confidence in relation to how your intelligence is perceived by others.
>>542529569You can live on a nice white guys property in a big house on a hill for under $5k/yr. It’s funny when people still think Africa is like starving children living in teepees. You could make a fun tower defense game about Americans going to Africa/Haiti to try and save it.
>>542529982At least I don't feel so threatened by strangers using words I don't know in contexts I have no relation to that I immediately feel the urgent need to try and put them down in any way possible so that I can retain some semblance of my shaky sense of self-worth.
>>542530163there's a reason you took a screenshot of the fourth image and not the first.
>steam next fest is starting in 20 minutesWell guess my game's release is gonna get fucked now.
>>542524702Who should I credit for it?
https://x.com/kuyimobile/status/1977712237084066216web games, thats itthats the xeet
>>542530319Well you did feel the need to self-identify "that was me" after I necroed a post calling you out rather than just reading it as criticism of your behavior and trying to improve in the future. You are a narcissist. You always had the option to not (you).
>>542529863not that anon, but that episode was cringy as fuck. I don't mean bad, I mean I was cringing because I saw myself in that kid.
>>5425308396 months to release 4 video games? what the fuck?
>>542530869>replying to the post that was replying to you is narcissism>vague attempts to undermine someone's intelligence with generally dismissive statements is criticism Okay buddy.
>>542530573post your game anon
so today I implemented the first pass of the minimap. or at least I told chatGPT to do it and it did and I spent the rest of the time tweaking the colors.I love AI.
>>542528389>>542528389>>542528389
>>542531374if you love AI so much why don't you marry her?
>>542531189A reminder this started with you undermining someone's intelligence.
>>542531538>>542531538>>542531538
>>542531549Quite the opposite, in fact. It started with another anon just like you lashing out at my initial post because he was scared of "big words" (that were actually rather normal words).
adding a bunch of improvements. tommorow i'll have to make more graphical backgrounds, and today i created new 3D models to replace the old one for the environments. I might have to buy a model pack to really spice things up visually.
>>542476812Ever heard of chicken sexers?The way they learn is 100% intuition.Which is weird because that’s exactly the way AI learns
fuck it im going to pay an indian guy on fiverr to rig my model for me
