Obelix editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>542178451>Latest News/Updates:Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.7.2https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401Darktide:Hotfix #79 - 1.9.3 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-79-1-9-3-patch-notes/113366Jump Space is in early access>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBABuild planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Took you long enoughWhen i say "now" i mean right fucking now, bitch
DARKTIDE POLEARMS FUCKING WHEEEEEEN
>>542464415The pickaxesMore will come with the admech class
>>542464479they should give the ogryn a pike
>rotten armor two cycles in a row
>>542464531With big monster damage for anti-large specialization
>>542464415I think it's a bit unlikely that they would be able to balance the reach those weapons could have. Especially Ogryn ones
Not that it’s really even an option for me right now but I’m kinda passingly curious all the same: for the tabletop fags, how worth it is it to try to get into in current year? Assuming finances and whatnot weren’t an issue. What would I need to know/do?
Crazy how block cost reduction literally doesn't do shit for the slab shield
>>542471390>>>/tg/96742679
>>5424713903d printed probably since GW doesn't sell the infantry kits anymore for Steel Legion, but the tanks are the same but with a different coat of paint
The next Darktide update will have all of these:Rinda Karnak returning as Plague Bearer riding a Rot FlyGenestealer cult faction (Beastmen 2)Red items made from Morbian steelChaos Wastes modeEldar Ranger class voiced by Kerillian VA
>>542475009>Mirinda sister of Sprite returningmost likely>Jeans stealersfor now red herring>Red itemsbit too early>Gayos Wasteshah no, they probably wanted to nail down proc gen for that but still lack manpower>Eldar Kerillianno, Fem Aribtrator Maul already is already voice by her
holy crap if darktide were vermintide 2 it would be 2020 right now...
Haven't touched Vermintide 2 in years, as you can see in pic related, but I've gotten the urge to dive back in.If I remember correctly, I think I stopped playing shortly after Fatshit gave all players temporary free access to the Shadows over Bögenhafen maps in 2018. Can I get a QRD on how much (or how little) the game has improved since I stopped playing? One thing I particularly want to know is if they've fixed the loot system to make it less grindy and timewasting. I vaguely remember something about red dust. Also, how much (or how little) have they sanctioned from the modded realm that you can play in the official realm? I remember it took Fatshark ages to approve anything from the modded realm.On a final note, I notice the game has accumulated a ton of DLC since 2018, all of which seem to be bundled as part of a Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?
>>542475873its somewhat different. the core structure is in place but many many career weapons and equipment and even a few map changes
>>542475873not sure about the exact timeline but here>2019Winds of Magic releases along with cataclysm difficulty, Beastmen were buggy and not well received, they have been toned down a bit but still annoying>2020 Grail Knight Career DLC for Kruber and Bardin's Outcast engineerit was a stretch and a half making him a Grail Knight (his ancestor was a giga chad bretonnian that got chased out by jealous fag)Bardin's career was kind of mid on release, better now that he can produce bombs>2021Chaos Wastes mode released, roguelite adventure linked by maps, each map can have modifiers attached to it, along the map you can aquire blessings (like every X strike deal guaranteed crit or your crits make chaing lightning etc...)each week different chaos god resided at the end with their own modifierssince then mode received a few overhauls(new blessings, monsters with modifiers like immunity to ranged attack or stagger) and Belakor was added as a bonus round map>Kerillian Class DLCthe most obnoxious and OP shit imaginable, after it got nerfed people cried for months>Warrior Priest for Saltzpyre Careernot the strongest but it was fun regardless, pack came with few new weapons that were cool >Sienna the Negromancerit's okay even if skellies are distracting >mapswe also received like 4(or was it 5?) seperate campaigns with their chapters free of charge, long ass maps with a lot of gimmicky objectives
>>542476732>>542476537Thanks. It seems like Chaos Wastes is very interesting. I love roguelites. What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game? And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?
>>542477127>What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?nope>Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game?Yes>And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?there were some improvements, but you will still see A.I legding itself or not reviving you despite being in the spitting distance with no enemies
>>542477343Thanks again.God, Fatshit is so retarded. Imagine being 8 years into the release of your game and you still haven't fixed the basic pathfinding issue of bots accidentally suiciding themselves off of ledges.I'm reading through forums and it seems like they're still shit, even with modded realm mods.
>>542471390Why the fuck would you ask this here and not /tg/?
I'm going to hurt you now!
Lucky bullet description>15% chance of triggering lucky bullet and not consuming ammo on ranged attacks.What lucky bullet actually does:>15% chance of shooting twice in a row on single click (or three times if you have max back off! stacks) without consuming ammo. 20% chance of your shot not consuming any ammunition.
>>542479549Retard
>>542477127>>542477880bot pathfinding isn't really much of an issue, the worst thing that happens is them getting stuck on some corner but that usually fixes itself quickly and i don't remember the last time i've seen bots ledge themselvesalso they can fight just fine even on cata if you equip them properly but they will still act retarded from time to time, and sometimes they'll chase down specials instead of shooting them which can fuck you over on cata but thankfully this doesn't happen very often at all to me
>>542479549>extra 30% weak spot damage>actually increases your weak spot multiplier by 1.3, the extra 30% being unscalableHow many vets make this one simple mistake?
>>542482990w-what does this mean?
>>542483015It means Hadron is very disappointed in you
post this elf.kerillians VA will be at a con soon, should I get something signed?
>>542484028yes
>>542484028
>>542484028Print a screenshot of her feet
>>542484028Have her sign a female arbites image
>>542484028posting this elf.dunno if you should get something signed, if you have something cool for her to sign then sure
>>542485028was thinking this as unfortunately I don't own a WHFB wood elf armybook
>>542479549How can you be this stupid
>>542480928>>542486716explain
When is Darktide getting whatever the 40k equivalent is to Sack Rats
>>542486924Impossible to code for current Fatshark
So do people not like darktide or what? I've been having a lot of fun with vermintide 2 with my friends.
>>542486891"15% chance of not consuming ammo" and "15% chance of shooting twice" are functionally identical. You shoot twice because the first shot consumed no ammo and you continued to hold the trigger long enough to buffer a second shot.And "20% chance of your shot not consuming ammunition" is simply wrong.
>>542487627most anons already played both games, just handful of schizos insisting that their game is "superior" and any time you bring up flaws they are having worse meltdown than Chernobyl reactor
>>542487627people who tend to like darktide are 40k fans, and 40k fans are notorious for ONLY liking 40k and wont try anything else, so they wont play VT2, DRG, L4D2 etc despite those games being WAY betterthey're not fans of co-op games, they're fans of 40k games, regardless of it's quality (unless of course its an RTS or CRPG because they're not shooters)
>>542488540But I like Darktide and have played those games
>>542487627Why would you think that? 80% of the discussion here is darktide. Much of it is complaining, but if we truly didn't like the game, we would just play something else instead of caring enough to voice our opinions. It's still a fundamentally good game with good base gameplay, it could just be handled differently in a few ways.Vermintide is awesome. Most people like both games. They're like 60% the same anyway. >>542488540This is absolutely untrue. Both parts. It's true for a handful of samples and you're going off the deep end.
>>542447484Flame staff also has great cc with left click. If it's a fat pack of crushers I will just get to max stacks with soul blaze real quick and then cc bot for my team so they can mulch em down.
>>542489627nu-40k fans wont even try a different edition of 40k, let alone a different game altogetherthey will buy 40k games for the sake of it being 40k, nothing more
>>542488540trvthvkemany who like dorktide are also often retarded and/or mentally ill, and those who think that it's good are definitely both
release me from this rotten hell, can't we have new modifiers?
>>542488143Even if i tapfire the gun will shoot twice or more in a row. You can test this out yourself with kickback or rumbler with lucky bullet.
>>542491421I dont really understand what determines the modifiers but ever since my havoc missions stopped being stims + rotten armor combo (its just stims now?) i completed 5 missions in a row.
>log in>get free helmet from a community missionBut enough about good games, when is Darktide gonna give us something that isn't just a fucking frame?
>>542492118Wish granted. 3 free weapon charms to celebrate Barktide.
>>542488540trve
So the ideal Havoc comp is Arby Psyker Veteran Zealot?
>>542494662More like three Arby’s and an Ogryn with Heavy Stubber and Pickaxe
The fact that bots are even capable of accidentally ledging (regardless of how common or rare you think it happens) when enemies don't do that is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded. These are bots. They could be designed to have perfect aim, perfect dodges, perfect movement and wallhacks. Obviously, I'm not saying Fatshark should do that, as that would be overpowered, but I'm just saying that it's possible to make them that way. So there's nothing stopping Fatshark from at least making them able to traverse terrain with a 100% guaranteed chance of never accidentally ledging. There's also nothing stopping Fatshark from doing what other games do with NPC companions when they accidentally fall into lethal holes, which is to have them respawn right back on safe ground. Fatshark deliberately did not provide bots with any of these basic courtesies.
>>542491568that's an issue with the gun, not the keystone
>>542495419I wouldn’t be surprised if they were using the decision tree for special spawns as a pathfinding solution, as a quick fix that never got updated.
>>542482990what the fuck are you talking about+1.3 would be fucking huge, no way it's true
>>542492118The Barktide post had 5 pets including from photos clearly taken at home. If a conservative 1/3 of employees have a pet, there are 15 people working on Darktide including community support.Meaning probably about 3-5 actual developers. You’re getting everything they can put out.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FIX THESE LOADOUT BUGS
>>542495742nah the bot logic is custom and a dedicated AI tree, you can go look at it in the decompiled source codeWhat I suspect (but haven't confirmed) is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff thereFor whatever reason a lot of flags and triggers like that are manually set rather than being dynamically determined - presumably it's more efficient that way, but it also means that the devs need to not fuck up when they're building maps (Fatshark challenge: impossible)
>>542496046H40 no talent true survivor clear or ur bad
>>542496089Surprisingly competent but by no means will I ever corrupt my pure academic logic and financial sector scripting education with whatever technoheresy is going on under the hood of this hot mess.
I’ll clear the board with Fatshark if they give me their UE5 Darktide 2 slop for at least 50% off at launch, as a victim of Darktide. Otherwise I will buy the game just to ruin runs, leave a bad review, and ruin community discussion by being obnoxiously vocal in an annoyingly positive way about the game - tainting the image of fans in an irreparable way.
>silo clusternever will I nope out of a mission faster than this
>>542496710the game would be far more enjoyable if rewards for failed runs scaled better with completion percentage or individual performance
>>542493223nu-40k fans only play space marine 2 and darktide
>>542496089>is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff thereSo is that what pic related fixes? Or is bot pathfinding with pic related active still as wonky?
Is Fatshark the most monkey paw coded dev?
>>542497351>that workshop imageSOVL
>>542497392that would imply they ever do anything positive
>>542496838silo cluster fails before the first drop down though
>>542496838What do mats have to do with mission satisfaction? Do you enjoy missions because of the payout, rather than because they're fun to play? Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipe
a handful of shillings to anyone who can provide some current footage of bots ledging themselves
>>542475873>Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?You want it if you intend to play it again. Careers being fun aside, weapons tied to all those dlcs are much more important and usable on vanilla classes too. Being cucked out of Cata is bad too, even if they loosened restrictions, it was still not enough
>>542497351the guy who made this mod made it as a fix and replacement for "Bot Improvements - Combat" mod because that mod was unsanctioned because of pic related and it looks like the author of it won't be updating it any time soonand the description doesn't mention anything about tweaking their pathfinding, which i don't think there's any major issue with anyway
>>542498420On VT2 or Darktide?Had a bot walk off ledge in Darktide yesterday on the first room with enemies on Ascension Riser 31 after having cleared it. Can try to replicate it later.
>>542499452wtf is "sanctioning"How are they going to stop someone from installing a mod
>2025>No new dlc with cosmetics for Darktide, only the old imperial edition
>>542499920go to the slopshop, goy
>NMRIH2mixed 63%>KillingFloor3mixed 49%>Darktidemixed 69% (recent reviews: mostly positive 74%)>Borderlands4mixed 64%
>>542497860>Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipeBecause at least then we can work to perfecting weapons/curios so it doesn't feel like such a defeat, especially if the wipe isn't directly your fault.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a recent Alien co-op game with an isometric angle that apparently was quite good? Does anyone remember the name? Or is that just a figment of my imagination?
>>542500625just your imagination
>>542500364Why are coopchuds so negative and toxic?
>>542499747retard
>>542499452I miss that mod. Made the bots better than most pubs. Now bots are worse than the average pub.
>>542495470retard
>>542499747a sanctioned mod can be used in the official realmall other mods can be used in the modded realm
>>542500743because coop franchises, with the exception of l4d, have ALL turned to shit by the second or third iteration
>>542500964And how is that enforced
>>542500474If you're playing content that isn't something you can single-handedly carry, you shouldn't be bringing half-baked weaponry in the first place, so the materials shouldn't matter because you've already purchased and upgraded your gear.
>>542499603VT2 because i never see it happen, i've seen how lobotomized darktide bots are
You will NOT play soloYou WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcodeYou WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happy
>>542501039retard
>>542501247Or we have secondary weapon sets we are upgrading while we play with our current maxed weapons, autism anon. Not every wipe is your fault, some plasteel as a "you'll get them next time" isn't going to hurt anyone.
>>542501435What is retarded about that questionIn Darktide you can use any mod you want and Fatshark has no control over it.Apparently this wasn't the case in Vermintide, but since I haven't played it I don't know how that works. Why are you so pissy about this, anyway?
>>542501609retard
>>542501424>teammates will randomly disconnect or be replaced by nonfunctional botsSounds like solo mode to me, problem solved.
>>542501323On VT2 i've only seen it happen on the new maps like the one with a bunch of portals connecting to different rehashed areas. It's definately rarer though so either the bot AI or the maps are better designed.
>>542501513retard
>>542500356The current rotation is shit and fatshark could recycle old unreleased stuff from game files
>>542480928>>542500767>>542500908>>542501279>>542501435>>542501698>>542501791Good posts
>>542501927retard
>>542501984ogryn
>>542501424>You will NOT play soloBOSCO!>You WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcodelol no, solo lobby>You WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happywhat in the ever loving fuck is "Havoc"?anyway back to mines
nuffin’ wron’ wit’ ogryn
>>542500364>VT2Very Positive 89%>L4D2Overwhelmingly Positive 97%>DRGOverwhelmingly Positive 97%the real co-op games run /coopg/
>>542502089I fucking love DRG but I’m so tired of driller primaries and I refuse to play without muh drillz
>>542501725I want to play the shitty forced uprising difficulty missions on a new character solo instead of waiting 10 minutes for brand new players to slowly waddle over to the elevator/checkpoint room/whateverI dont want bots in the actually difficult gamemode when they dont even register basic stuff like a sniper aiming and shooting at them.
>>542500896the thing that i miss the most from it is bots pinging elites, though that feature was broken for quite a while before the mod itself was unsanctioned>Now bots are worse than the average pub.no way, i can clear full book legend runs solo with bots no problem and they can dodge dance monsters almost perfectly better than most players, they can even hold their own in cata while i sometimes have trouble carrying retards in legendi recently played a few games on cata solo with bots and it went way smoother then i expected, i even had sott bot keep a Stormvermin aggroed to it solo at the barn in Against the Grain while i was dealing with the horde, even managed to do Skittergate with them and the hardest part of that by far was the final boss
>>542502270>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11
>>542502459go ahead and tell me why VT2, DRG, or L4D2 are bad games
>>542502089Sorry but i lost interest in deep cock after i got all the overclocks and the devs lost interest long before that.
>>542502459But enough about Darktide
>>542502585In fairness the devs are working on rogue core right nowThey did say they'd continue to release updates for both games once it's out
>>542502684NTA but I remember they said this like almost 2 years ago?
>>542502459uh oh darktide fan having a melty!
Daimon Blades > DRG = L4D2 > VT2 > Helldivers 2 > Darktide > Borderlands 4 > NMRIH2 > Killing Floor 3 > Payday 3
shit I completely forgot about daimon blades
>>542502808Yeah, and it's taking them more than two years to finish rogue coreGhost Ship does at least have a track record of actually delivering on their promises, even if they are slow
>>542503050so did everyone else
>>542503050to be fair so did everyone else
>>542502270Yeah im thinking they won.
>>542503478Based dungeon dweller
DRG would be pretty bad under Fatshark's hands>Weapons and tools needs all the minerals to upgrade>More or less 90% of cosmetics locked behind slop shop rotation with some one never returning for years>No paintjobs and skin rewards in events, etc
>>542503478this game is in that really weird cross-section of "kinda sucks ass" and "really fun"Not surprised there's both very high reviews and no active players
>>542501424I wish it was possible to play offline. Fewer things are more demoralizing in VT2 than to have your run completely fail because the game's shitty server disconnects mere seconds before you enter the Bridge of Shadows. Or you enter the Bridge of Shadows and the game bugs out, crashes to desktop, and acts as if the last 20 minutes didn't happen.
>>542503580>weapons and tools need all the minerals to upgradeI agree with your post but this part is already the case
>>542503619>kinda sucks ass?
>>542502459>>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11I mean, unironically yeah?If there are like 20,000+ people playing your game daily and the reviews for your game are mostly positive, then it is a good game.However, I do recognize that good is subjective. One man's "best game of all time" is to another man their abhorrent piece of shit that they hate.
>>542503727The combat doesn't feel very good and the gameplay loop gets kind of stale
>ranged/melee boss spawn with horde, 3 mins in on amphitheater map>ogryn starts the sypher sequence for some reason>goes down first and dc's>wipe to ranged wave
>>542503707Yeah but in DRG you can exchange between minerals, we don't even have options to trade plasteel and diamantine in Darktide
>>542503994>"deers">"infront">"sypher"Skill issue, Rajesh.
I have come to the conclusion that Electro > Inferno > Voidblast
did he just imagined the first two words?
>>542488540I have played DRG, it was fun but I do like Darktide as well.I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.For me the main reason why I ever bought darktide was purely because I could play as an ogryn. I've always liked games where I get to be the giant ogre who hits hard and protects the team.When I saw in the trailers that you could play as an ogryn I was fucking sold and wanted to buy Darktide.Is Darktide perfect however? No, it's far from it but at this point most of the issues the game had have been addressed and fixed (even if slowly) and Fatshark as a developer has massive issues.Only things I'm annoyed by currently is the lack of new maps, new enemies + enemy factions and then new weapons.Last map we got was Clandestium Gloriana, and then within 3 years of DT life span we've only gotten 2 new enemies.
>>542503619I think it would benefit greatly from being more forgiving at the start and having more QoL especially in online play. I know it goes against the whole roguelike feel of the game but it sucks when you play with your friends and one of them ends up dying to a trap/boulder/oneshot by high level monster and you end up vaccuuming all the levels and gear to yourself while they are permanently gimped.In similar fashion the endgame (atleast solo) is WAY too easy and i ended up basically rushing the exit on the last zone because i already had best gear possible and couldnt be bothered to pick up items or fight stuff anymore.Also completely agree the combat is kinda janky and i hope they rework it (alongside stealth its so easy to abuse once you know how it works)
>>542500712>>542500625Found it. It exists. It's just not actually co-op. That's the part I got wrong.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150440/Aliens_Dark_Descent/
>>542504583I have come to the conclusion that you are retarded.
>havoc>enter room>horde>twins>beast of nurgle>plague ogryn>chaos spawn (weakened)thank god for grenade spam
>>542505192we wiped btw
>>542503580it seems like these are issues only darktide suffers fromcurious
>>542505192>kill all that>can't deal with a group of regular shooters 50 meters away in coveraaaaaa
>>542505306We survived but 2 of us died and then wiped because we got another boss + horde and got seperated by a bomber and i got shot in the back and died like a bitch trying to make a mad dash for revives
>>542505589certified director moment
scramblers (flamers/bombers) are more dangerous and more likely to lead to wipes than disablers (trappers/dogs/mutants)The vast majority of players immediately snap to trappers but are happy to let the bomber turn the entire level into a lake of fire
>>542506072I swear they made the fart gas clouds bigger recently
>7 plasma niggers approach youwdyd?
>>542506513A SHIELD
>>542506072If your vet player isnt retarded he will be sniping every special before they even get a chance to attack (apart from maybe muties as they are pretty tanky and almost a non-threat compared to everything else) but that's asking alot from Darktide players.
>>542506072Most people don't let them live, the problem is that bomber AI is dickheaded and designed to hang back and hide behind cover and then lob grenades at you from a blindspot.Flamers are at least easy in that they just run up to you which lets you easily dome them or even melee them if you can dodge the flame.
>>542506808>before they get a chance to attack>throws a grenade into your squad from outside the level geometry behind a wall even the plasma gun can't penetrate>runs awaynothin personnel, rejects
>>542506513EMPEROR-SAMA SAVE ME AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
H40 but your team mate brings spychic shriek and surge contributing nothing until the inevitable wipe
>>542507640surge is a blessing
>tac axe special can interrupt mutie charges on headshotdisgusting, this weapon did not need this capability
>>542507972you could just use a weapon that kills the mutie in one headshot
>>542507925surge staff bro thats how he announced it in chat too. It went like this:>Psyker are you gonna play flame or smite?>I will take psychic shriek and surge>Game starts before we can tell him otherwise>does nothing and dies
>>542508141True and also irrelevant
Unless you are smitebitch or there's another psyker you should always pick shield as psyker, no ifs or butts
>>542508243mm nyo sweetie it's electro now
Darktide talents be like>5% extra toughness on kill>15 toughness>ranged hits grant stacks of scrimbo scrambo, increasing critical hit chance of your next melee attack by 5%, melee hits grant stacks of scrambo scrimbo, increasing critical chance of your next ranged attack by 5%>gain 15% attack damage for 5 seconds after heavy attack>3 bleed on melee critical hit>you and allies in coherency gain 5% revive speed>5% rending
What other Sci-Fi franchise do you want or think could benefit the most from a coop/tide game? (Do not reply Star Wars)
>>542472289>>542473638Hmmm alright. Thanks for the responses. >>542477941Because I said I was passingly curious, I.e. not enough to go to another board and/or make an entire thread for it?
>>542509835XCOMKilling FloorSomething else i forgot
>>542509835Warhammer, again. But this time we're fighting Orks.
>>542484028Ehh, I don’t even know what she looks like and frankly I’m kind of scared to find out. I will not post that elf btw. Get an autograph if you want though.>>542486101Pretty cool actually.>>542488540What a strange thing to say. You know it isn’t true because you felt the need to reply to yourself too. Weirdo.
Rotten armor is cancerous, but I still think that pox gas is the worst modifier in pubs. Even relatively bad groups can clear havoc missions by taking their time, and gas eliminates that as an option. You're constantly moving around to avoid taking damage and it just short-circuits people's brains.
If slaneeshi daemons are too sexy to be put into any games then explain why its ok for me to be subjected to Sefoni making suggestive comments and moaning like a slut 24/7 into my poor innocent virgin ears while i try to complete mortis trials penances.
>>542496331i’m very curious to see the extent of your own “academic logic and financial sector scripting education”
>>542511273It's not that sexy or suggestive things aren't allowed in gamesIt's that you're not allowed to have those things be portrayed as behaviors you can justify killing someone overSlaanesh is an "issue" because you're essentially killing people for being extreme perverts, and even if it's completely justifiable within the lore it's socially unacceptable for marketing purposesGW is never gonna take that risk when they can just use the other three chaos gods.
>>542500625>>542505068you also got the part where you said it was “apparently quite good” wrong (because it’s not)
>>542502270Too bad they’re all ancient zombies at this point and their respective sequels are either never happening or objective downgrades.
>>542503050not a surprise. it’s dead and dusted. probably bit the curb harder than even kf3. very tragic.>>542503580what an intriguing and compelling thought. what’s next? ea would fill it with micro transactions if they had it?
>>542508464this but unironicallybubble is always going to contribute more to the team than the personal +15% dps you get from running your EPIC MILLIONS OF DAMAGE [NEW META???] gayze build
>>542504246You owned him here.>>542505192Oh man I love going to LLL. :)
>>542506808>If your vet player isnt retardedhahaha that’s a good one man
>flamer spawns silently behind an armor pack>plays attack audio, but by then he's already firing>blinding flames cover your entire field of view to stop you from just shooting him>spamming ping to find/highlight him cucked by the 15 elites accompanying him>even if you do ping him the outline is red on orangeI hate this enemy
>>542512675ea would cancel the game or drop it around early access
>>542504709>I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.I have bad news for you buddy.
>>542509835The Elder Scrolls, but i can't really think of anything that would fitmaybe something set during the Oblivion Crisis could work
>its another episode of poxburster beeping randomly silencing all other game audio
>>542514795>it's in a closet and refuses to come out
>>542514795you don't understand anon, we NEED four dedicated audio channels for the background music, sacrificing functional enemy sound cues to make room is a necessity
>>542506513Shriek, and hope that my team is cognizant enough to close the gap and push their shit in. Otherwise dodge and dance till the 20 second cd is up again.
>>542508464You could always get good and stop asking me to bring a crutch for you
>>542509835>(Do not reply Star Wars)ButBut it's the most obvious one. It would lend itself so well. I can't think of anything else really. Even some Forgotten Realms game was tried already, but all those tabletop rpg settings feel too progressive to just let you slaughter Orcs en masse. It doesn't even sound like something which would appeal to fanbases of those settingsHonestly Fatshark didn't even scratch a surface with both wfhb and 40k. They could make multiple sequels to both and not run out of material - weapons, locations, enemies, playable characters etc
>ping poxburster approaching>teammate A swap to melee and walks towards it holding the block animation, clearly ready to push>teammate B detonates it on top of teammate Almao
>>542511273>Meanwhile in a parallel universe>Darktide with almost the same plot but under slaanesh corruption instead of nurgle>Rejects are raped in missions failures, getting anal bleeding permanent status unless they visit Oska Krall and pay a lot to remove it>Meanwhile they drop a line of blood and screams of pain every time you move around the Mourningstar lol
>>542515505*wipes*
>>542515610every time
>>542515658>coop tidelike H-gameremove the blood and this sounds kino
>>542515610>teammate A is closer and the target of the poxburster, and starts shooting it>teammate B sprints at it from the side to push it and gets explodedget fucked
>>542516023Darktide is already a H-game thanks to beasts of nurgle t.femzealot player
Are poxwalkers considered plaguebearers? Or could Fatshark theoretically add these guys as a new enemy?
how did darktide buckbreak telepots
>>542516894Plaguebearers are leeser daemons, and they have presence in the game but it's too small yet
>still no vt2 new weapons that were teased months agodid fatshark just give up?
>>542516894you're getting a reskinned plague ogryn and you'll say thank you as well
>>542517285>and they have presence in the gameThey do? Where?
>>542511273Because suggestive lewdness via innuendos and dialogue is not the same as having daemons and cult members running around with their tits and dicks flapping around. >>542514513This lol.
>>542506513BLOOD FOR THE EMPERORSKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
>>542517728he probably meant the gay ritual orgies
>>542516894No, they’re two separate things.
can you imagine how hard the average player will shit the bed when Fatshark adds flying enemies to the game
>true survivor>doesn't bring krak to rotten armor
>>542519065not my problem
>>542519065exactly i bring smoke bombs to negate ranged mobs and power sword for rotten armor
>>542517728>They do? Where?They're teased in different maps like pic related, but again, small presence like the genestealers for now until Fatshark decides to progress with the plot.
>>542517728They are not in the game, technically.However in the refinery delta mission, the one where you build up pressure in the gestation tanks to destroy the plague admonition is working on. There is a secret plague bearer skull in the final room, it's in a pile of gore.
>>542514513I know that the devs aren't working much on DRG currently, but I am ashamed to admit I've only played DRG once so I haven't experienced a lot of it.
>>542511273Sefoni's sex moans are hell of a lot tamer and more SFW than a slaanesh daemon or a slaanesh cultists prancing around butt naked with their dicks/tits flopping all over the place.
>>542479549>>542480928I noticed this too. When did they change this? It used to definitely not work like this, now it shoots repeatedly
>>542509835I really want to see a developer who knows what they’re doing try their hand at a game starting a high tier hyper advanced Sci-Fi franchise. Something like The Culture, Xeelee Sequence, Doctor Who, etc. I have no idea what it would actually play like, but running around as a literal god and defending from the various threats that star in them would be a treat to see. Alternatively, I think a Hakf Life spin off where you either play as the Combine trying to subjugate other dimensions or defending yourself as one of those dimensions would also be neat.
>wipe to a dh because smitebot is deaf
>>542520819Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?You misunderstand the purpose of video games.
>>542509835Starcraft's would be amazing.
>>542471390I can't imagine ever getting into something that takes as much work and is as niche as Warhammer TT is in the first place when GW deprecates factions with new printings as often as they do. >Just play X editionWith who?>Lol, no friendsOh, you have a lot of people who hang around playing X edition? No, you don't, you lying bitch. That shit becomes shelf/convention fodder and you know it.
>>542522849funny you should say thatsecret news so don't tell anyone but there's one in the works rn
>>542523071I have bad news about Starcraft: Ghost, anon...As long as someone other than Fatshark is in charge of live service, that would be great news.
>>542522675what’s the purpose of video games?
>>542522675>Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?Because it would be fun and unique, provided it’s done properly through a mix of appropriate funding and people who actually know what they’re doing plus are familiar with source material, like I said.
>>542511359Who on this planet would share specifics for a measly (You)?
>>542523408>>542523618You get to watch Superman solve problems because it leaves you in a weaker, expectant state, hoping for your own personal savior to swoop in and solve the problems too large for you. You don't get to practice being him, and if someone stumbles upon this formula, we pay them handsomely to abandon it. The purpose is demoralization. t. Alan Moore
>>542520638Yeah I remember in Rogue Trader when I faced a Slaanesh daemonette and was immediately fired from my job even though I was in international waters.
>>542511273Because Slannesh is literally just drag queens and trannies. They were making fun of them back then when 40k was being codified and nobodoy thought that eventually it would become accepted or even supported behaviour, so Slannesh is sentenced to sit in the corner forever because removing one of the big four would cause an uproar in the community. They already tried once with Age of Sigmar and it wouldn't surprise me if the eventual conclusion of the whole Vashtorr thing is to pull a quick one on us and swap him with Slannesh.
>>542523835(You). Right now.
>>542525163
>>542524039
>>542525618cutie
>>542525429*breeds Lenore in front of her*
>>542526078For me it’s the big dyke butch bitch
>>542525398>record scratch>freeze frameyep, that’s me
>>542510171yes i'm sure that going to another board and asking in the 40k tabletop general there would've been inhumanly difficult
What do you think about these new cosmetics?
>>542528216umm...
NEW cosmetics?
>>542506513hold left click on my psyker so they can't hurt me
>>542528181Not what I said but sure
ah, scab shooters, my ancient enemy
>>542528791>Sep 29of 2023, right?
>>542509835It’s a shame Destiny’s gameplay is such phenomenal dogshit. It’s probably the most well known sci fi game that could benefit the most from a complete mechanical makeover. Its lore is pretty damn intriguing too but hardly done justice outside of text and that’s just such a letdown.
>game about fighting nurgle's influence on a hive>two (2) nurgle enemies (chaos spawn and beast of nurgle)>two (2) half-nurgle enemies (daemonhost and plague ogryn)>everything else is just an enemy militia with AIDSvery cool Fatshark
>>542530348even worse the chaos spawn and plague ogryn are just high effort remasters of the vt2 chaos spawn and rat ogre
>>542530348I actually got to level cap on my main before I realized that poxwalkers were different than normal enemies or whatever. I'm sure it adds a layer of visual complexity that makes the game feel less cheap but I haven't made a single mechanic decision as a result of the """mixed hordes."Y You want enough rending to take down carapace enemies anyway, so I've never spared it any thought. Everything dies to the same combos anyway. Only time it's worth sparing processing power better spent dodging to alter your attack pattern is when you face a carapace elite.
>>542531143man what a terrible post, i'm sorry
>>542530871>rat ogreI almost wish we just fought one of those instead
>>542530348This is why Chaos Undivided will always be superior
>>542530348Honestly I prefer it this way since I like the idea of shooting at a bunch of Lost & Damned, but with how the game is structured around having multiple "factions" (Scabs and Dregs, technically) my wishful thinking would have been that we'd get other guys at some point.Truth however is all that we' can hope to get is the Genestealer Cult "second hive" DLC in couple years that will be mostly reskinned Dregs with couple of specials (welcome back Beastmen). Some new elite that will play badly and fit weirdly some time after (welcome back Chaos Warrior with mace and shield.)
>>542531143>poxwalkers were different than normal enemiesbuh?poxwalkers are the green zombies, and there are the pale infected humans with armour, and I’ve noticed recently there are rare enemies that look like they were imperial guardsmen at one timehonestly I just sort them by how many hits/combos I will need to kill them and/or their ranged capabilities
>>542536349idk man everything dies in two hits of my relic blade or eviscerator and if i wanted to swing anything else i'd play a better game
>>542536857>evisceratorfatshark needs to add a volume slider for the chainsaw sfxway too loud for my delicate ears
>>542538682The mk 4 chain axe is the worst
>be playing taunt ogryn>eviscerator zealot is actually sawing through all the crushersThey just need some space
>>542539625>instantly mogged by arbitrator on any weapon spamming left click
>>542539957A revved up eviscerator does pretty good damage against crushers, but that's dangerous when you don't have someone keeping the enemies occupied
What's the shittiest weapon in Darktide?
>>542540468the chain weapons because they’re too loud to use
>>542540468the chain weapons because i dont like how they stick to enemies
>>542540468Shredder autopistol
>>542540468in the category of weapons I never use, Heavy Sword and Vigilant Autogun. The game they were made for no longer exists, and vigilants were barely useful even back then.
>>542540468All of the auto guns. Most of the melee weapons.
zealots should be practically immune to chip damage and their main function should be 1v1ing monstrosities and bosses while the rest of the team handles the specialists and eliteswhat other identity could they have at this pointogryns should mog other ogrynsarbi should be keeping the block fodder in linevets should be sniping dangerous specialsand psykers should put their bubble down and then apologize for existing
>>542540468Heavy Sword
>>542540468I have a potentially irrational hatred of the Heavy Sword.
>>542540468Heavy swords and the power falchions
>>542540468It's the heavy sword, it feels like it was included just to highlight chainswords and power swords via contrast
>>542540468Ogryn. All of it.Not neccesarily bad, it just feels like shit to me. I wish we had a Ratling instead because Bardin felt better than Snoregryn.
>>542543613Skill issue
>>542543613>kneecaps count as weakspot hits for ratlings
>>542542659The problem is Arbites. Arbites should have been a slower but tankier middle ground between Zealots and Ogryns. Instead they're the best of both worlds.
>>542545267>Zealots should by X and do Y>"The problem is actually 75">...
>zealot is the most important class in high havocs for its ability to just never fucking die, insta res you, and piss all over you>zealot is le badIf you're struggling in your little babby aurics as freshly buffed zealot, that's such a monumental skill issue, I don't even think I could explain to you how much you suck because you just wouldn't get it.
>>542546335you're the worst poster here
>>542495419Classic video games. Computer allies are always worse than the enemy.
>>542500364What does this image have to do with the post
>>542503619It kind of just looks like it sucks ass man but idk I’ve never played it
Zealots went from being the best class to being the worst class by farLet that sink in
>>542547746In your hands, sure.I'm not letting the sink in.
>>542495419>is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded.What is this pretense that this isn't obviously the case? of course they're not making competent bots, it would defeat the point of the game
>>542547851Every class is brought to its full potential in my handsThe sink is inside your house now
>trying to get the achievement in Firebreak where you do a hard mission and no one gets downed>can always hold my own but there's always one retarded random who fucks upkill me
>>542547874I thought ratclick had competent bots that would actually, y'know, do things.
>>542547949You had forever to do that and you chose after they fixed the difficulty scaling?
>>542509835Half-Life as a squad of Combine grunts sent into the Containment Zone to push back Xen infestation (this would be before they gave up on it in Alyx.) You can have different Combine for different classes like a medic, a heavy, a technician, an all rounder, etc. Could have Antlion heavy zones, zombie zones, Vort zones, etc. etc.
>>542548074Only got into the game when it was on sale after they had already fixed it.
>>542548041It didn't, they were fully fucking retarded and kept dying to 3 rats or 1 elite. Not quite as bad as darktide but anyone pretending the bots in ratclick were worthwhile is reinventing history. About the only notable difference is that they could fight bosses competently
>>542509835maybe Star Trek shit against the borg could work? or like something to do with stargate>>542514781>The Elder Scrolls>Sci-Fi
>knosso prond jerkin>not even a single attempt to model ambiguously, it just straight up has a male chestlol these guys know no shame huh>>542549128lorelet
>>542540468Auto pistolVigilant autogunsHeavy swordsDevil clawsArguably both kinds of heavy stubber.Maybe power maul as well since that weapon is just plain fucking cursed. But it might be good now thanks to the buffs, but I haven't played with it.
>>542548041Adding competent bots to a coop game is counter-productive.
>>542509835Warhammer 40k.
>>542550210i've just now realized that they just strap things over the chest of every model that has a tight fit jesus christ how lazy can you get
>>542550210The Numidium and wonky time travel shenanigans is not enough to classify it as Sci Fi buddy. At best it has elements of it.
>>542550436What is this retarded cope?>DRG has an AI companion more useful than most players>it's really good in single player as a result>most players still choose to play with othersSo I can't have competent bots in poxclick because they would be better teammates than (You), the average auric shitter?
wake up anon, it's time for your daily, obligatory, maelstrom duo
>>542552020Yes... honey...
>>542550939Who's gonna look at your cosmetics if you play solo
>>542553491Shit, fuck.I concede because I think you are genuinely correct. I hadn't even thought that far.
>>542547493NMRIH2 KF3 and most likely BL4 will die as unloveable incel chuds because their devs released inferior sequels to beloved games
>>542548289>>542520819>>542509835third for half lifeeven leaving aside the obvious 3rd game joke i do think there’s a lot you could do with a combine focused game, especially since they have such a wide breadth of setups for a potential tide game. could be a neat little divide between missions.
>eviscerator in lore is the biggest, baddest chain weapon, designed to obliterate armor and tear open anything you throw at it>Fatshark's version is one of the worst weapons vs carapacewhat did they mean by this?
wait so vet niggers have ogryn batter now thats easily reachable and have uncanny and they still whine? goddamn
>>542554732are these whining vets in the room with us right now
>>542554732>and they still whineI haven't seen vets complain in yearsThey're the best class and even they know it
>>542554732>>542554872>>542554930power sword is still fucking gay as hell
>>542555165It is a retard strong and retard easy weapon, yes.
Painkiller is becoming a coop shooter with Chaos Wastes mechanics.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2300120/Painkiller/Demo is out, looks fun.
>>542550294Power maul still sucks ass
>>542556007We have our first Daimon Blades like....
>>542556319? They are nothing alike?Have you ever played Painkiller, anon?
Favorite Vermintide 2 line? For me it's>Keep doing that, and I'll take yer beard!
>>542556482Of course not, why would I? But the Daimon Blades inspiration is quite clear.
>>542556820
>>542556982Okay. *points gun at you instead*
>>542556982He's right you know
>>542557194
>>542553707I mean this isn't a gotcha or a contest for you to even concede in but that's genuinely the reason for a lot of stupid decisions in modern games. Mourningstar exists as a hub solely so other people can look at your cosmetics. You can't private a game alone because nobody will look at your cosmetics. Bots are generic and bad so you want to play with other people and they will stand out.The worst part is it's proven to work, just as FOMO and other scummy practices are.
>>542558127All excellent decisions btw
>>542556007>>542556319>>542556482>>542556820>>542556982>>542557194>>542557560>>542558067most obvious samefag shill of all time.
>>542558067
>>542558298Take your meds, schzo
really wish the 6 normal axes had meaningfully different movesets or capabilities
>>542558791Best we can do is adding a 7th with the same problem.
>>542558937well alright if its new ill use it for a couple days at least
>>542558791The achlys is meaningfully worse than the other 2
>>542559568i hope you find extra ammo (or perhaps an extra stimm if you don't need any) on your next mission anon
Kerillian's cute and sexiness feels illegal.
>>542559979Thanks
HOW TO FIX OGRYN SHOVELSHigher damage and armor penLow cleaveMake them perform like the combat axesThank you for your attention to this matter
>>542559979>ping extra ammo bag>teammate with orange ammo icon ignores it >would have taken 3 seconds total to get>they're asking the guy holding an ammo box to put it down for him 1 minute later>everyone is good on ammo except him
>>542556007just finished playing the demothis is actually pretty good.it's more like abyssus and ratclick 1 than daimon bladestoo bad it's 40 fucking dollarsbut it has all the ingredientsgenuinely felt i was playing horn of magnus back in vermintide 1the banter between the cast is what darktide misses so much
>>542556007The video/stream/whatever that's showing on the steam page makes it look like nu-doom.
>>542555165Problem being it’s unsatisfying as shit to use.
>>542560982it's not a doom clone at allsee >>542560805
>>542561134I did not call it a doom clone. I said they are advertising it like it is.
>>542560805Yeah, tempted to preorder.I agree with the Abyssus comparison, they really need to stop shadowdropping those Darktide competitors.>>542561269Great, the devs are retards then.
>>542560227It is a boon to live in the same universe as she
>>542464070For the Inferno force staff, which is better: Blaze Away and Warp Nexus, or Blaze Away and Penetrating Flame?
>>542560805>>542561449>the steam forums are full of quake boomers seething the game is nothing like the original painkillerskekkeroni rigatoni
>>542547949I did one solo run of Hot Fix that went well on Hard, but a solo run on Frequency Shift went bad half way through. I need to find a good solo loadout.
>>542561654>Vermintide: EternalMy red-flags are a risin
>>542509835I wouldn’t mind seeing something like that for a Quake game. Has the dimensional incursion element needed for it to work. Cool monsters, weapons, levels, etc.
>>542560684oblivious bastards
>>542562797sharp knees
>>542561654It would unironically be a better world if there were enforced litmus tests on branding, though. It’s evil to take advantage of mentally ill people and retards you don’t even know just because they’ll buy anything with a particularly beloved childhood brand attached.But enough about Fatshark.
>>542562279Freezer Duty went very well, but then I didn't get any other Corruptions spawning in and then in the extract I got downed anyways. Can't wait for them to bring back the old system.
Aurics have reached the point where i'm pretty much forced to bring tauntgryn or else my team just won't survive
>>542565670Been that way ever since they moved aurics off a second page, pal.
>>542565940MayhapThese fuckers don't even realize that the only reason why they are alive is because they are within my taunt range>fucker runs off and gets completely boxed in>i push taunt them through the floor and rescue himPush taunt is such a kino talent. Serious fatshark W
>>542549128uhh idk how but in my mind i completely omitted the sci-fi bit from the questioni still think a TES coop game would be cooland fantasy > sci-fi anyway
>>542567324>a TES coop game would be coolYou realize that only fatshark has the ability to make that game fun, right?
>>542567324Skyrim Together Reborn already exists.
>>542567592all they have to do is make it not like darktide and functional at launch, the latter might be a problem
>>542549128>trekWouldn't a co-op action game be the antithesis of what that franchise is all about lmao?
would a ratburster improve Vermintide?
>>542568273
>>542556007Seemed fun for the few games I played. People are still terrible at prioristing disablers though, 3 times I've watched helplessly as I get dragged into the abyss.
>>542565670Then they don't survive. Maybe they'll learn to play a different difficulty while they sit in time-out for a while. lol no they won't
>>542567324>and fantasy > sci-fi anywayNah. Both are equal amounts of kino when done right. >>542568239You mean from a le peaceful utopian society standpoint? That’s presumably why he said the Borg would have to come in
>>542568782>pull entire room in my taunt>melee veteran runs into the other room and pulls 3 ragers and dies in a cornerHe was having so much fun stabbing enemies until the enemies fought back
>>54256890899.9% of conflicts are resolved through diplomacy. And the ground fights always have phasers set to stun. Also The Borg/ spaceship fighting would be a better premise for a Star Fox clone.
Is the spearhead boltgun even good? This mf takes forever to unholster and aim, and not aiming-down-sights is a huge ammo waste.
>>542570614the bolt pistol is better in every way that matters
>>542556564>MAYFLIES
>>542568590well?
>>542570614>Is the spearhead boltgun even good?It is extremely good because you can build it as if it were a sniper rifle.Take Deadshot on vet, piss mark's left node as a stamina engine, 1-2 stamina curios according to taste, and put the aimed crit blessing on the boltgun. It annihilates most things in 1-2 headshots except crushers, which I think need 2-3 now depending on your build. Not that you should shoot crushers anyway.If you care enough, vet can also fix the swap speed issue. And the reload speed issue. And definitely the ammo issue.The next best user is Arbitrator which turns it into a brutally effective magdump boss deleter, with the 20 and 30% unyielding damage in the class.Zealot can also use it to brutal effectiveness, at least in aurics, with the right keystone. I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymore, personally.>>542570841Mostly true, except ammo and boss killing, which I think do matter depending on your class and role. I think it's about equal with boltgun on vet, and the lack of ammo is felt in havoc where most classes have better options imo.
>>542570614Very good
i know i'm three years late to the trough but i still can't get over the gender neutral cosmetics modelslike what the actual fuck
Just did my first cataclysm game ever as the Footknight. Holy fuck that was intense.
>>542573205>you on the right>auric and havoc chads on the left
>>542564916Finally did it solo on Outbreak. Once I heard a Corruption right outside the elevator door I knew I had to not fuck it up. Thought I'd get fucked at the end of it when the elevator door broke, but I repaired it and just threw water grenades just in case. Also got an Exotic out of it so fuck yeah.
>>542570969they're fine
>>542570614It's insane on Vet. Take Focus Target or run it with lots of crit like the other anon suggested. I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head. Just don't mag dump and miss a ton of shots when 3-4 would have sufficed. It bodies almost all other elites and does good monster damage to boot. >>542571065>I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymoreZealot shouldn't have been using it in S1 of Havoc. Unless it was really strong for some season I missed, it wasn't a good pick on Zealot ever for Havoc. Too ammo hungry in a mode where there's not enough ammo. The Bolt Pistol was a much better pick if you wanted to run something other than flamer.
>>542497392yeah i have half a repentia set cobbled together over three years to prove it
>>542556564Black ones!
>>542574303>I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head.Arguably true, though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking them, if there's a healer nearby, or using melee to preserve ammo. Granted, I am somewhat assuming that the vet is running a meta melee like power sword, so it'll obviously be different on some builds. Then again, if you're in auric, there aren't enough crushers for you to run out of kraks with most good builds, so you can rely on those anyway.
>Operations>Theres only oneUhmmm darkturds?
>>542575248many such cases
>>5425752482 actually
>>542574647>though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking themI doubt the anon was asking about Havoc though. If he's talking about issues with the thing's swap speed and ammo economy, Havoc is probably still a ways off for him, if he ever decides to bother with it.>KraksTrue, it is often a waste to just start unloading on Crushers when you could Krak them. That said, running something like a Bolter is a good opportunity to use Shredders, if someone's so inclined, because your gun already handles armored elites and monsters so well. Having the CC and AOE from Shredders pairs nicely with Bolter in Aurics. It's how I've predominantly run my Bolter setup, and the new health value didn't change that for me.
NoPsyker is not the best potential melee class even with scryers gaze and high levels of skillIt's still the good old ogryn
I really don't understand the end game of certain vermintroon players who sprint past the entire fucking team. Congratz, you have 500 hours and for some reason you're not playing Cataclysm or solo mode and choose to spend your time trolling Legend matches. Maybe they are actually too bad for those things and need power trip on a lower difficulty? I don't know. You guys are the experts. Fill me in.
If not for the fact that the plasma gun can shoot through walls, the slug shotgun would be a direct upgrade
I have had enough of rotten slop I haven't seen a regular rager in a month
>>542578056i dont play on legend but i think you just answered your own question
>>542569739Didn’t know that. My experience with Trek is limited to like those new movies that released over a decade ago now. Guess it’s not a good fit.
>>542503050>>542503251Its 40 dollars for an unpolished early access game from a studio with a middling history at best. It never had a chance.
>>542509835>not wanting to kill Goa'uld fucking shits, among othersCan't believe nobody's said Stargate yet. The setting's even prime for mission-to-mission adventures in drastically different settings and with varying enemy types.
is darktide still being mogged by vt2 or do i have a reason to play it now
>>542580372It was never mogged by vermintide even in its worst state
Darkturd moment
>>542580674insane cope
>>542581091How is an objective fact a cope?I'm not going to play pretend with you
