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>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

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>Thread Question
Which crpg does druids the best?
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>>542607779
>HOMM
Are any of the old Might and Magic RPGs worth a play today? Or that newer one Legacy?
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How do you go from this to that fuck ugly bitch in Kingmaker? Nivalcat really dropped the ball there.
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>>542607937
>Might and Magic RPGs worth a play today
No. They're generic sci-fi masquerading as generic fantasy, the only reason Sseth keeps shilling them is because of his own nostalgia, objectively the gameplay is very subpar to what you can get from a real CRPG.
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>>542607937
dark messiah of might and magic is fun and really short. It's worth a gander if you're in the mood for something different though the story is weak enough.
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Why do all female fantasy creatures lust for sex with human male fighters?
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>"Name your Character"
>quit
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>>542605553
You get jump credits by killing, so try to save up kills from mooks so you can keep hopping around and rekting the boss .
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Which RT girls have an OF?
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>>542608942
For me it's when I'm finished with the character but then I realise I want a different background after starting.
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>>542609084
Jae and idira (no subscribers for idira but she still uploads daily)
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>>542609084
Yrliet, but she only posts feet, never face
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>>542609213
>(no subscribers for idira but she still uploads daily)
Why woul Jae have more luck than Idira, they're about the same looks level.
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>>542608169
M&M X Legacy is decent thoughever.
Doesn't do the sci-fi stuff from old lore, just an ok fantasy setting
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>>542608818
>>542606013
>>542606509
I see, I guess I shouldn't have used them all on the weakest enemies in the game lol.
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>>542607952
Would be kino if Owlkek made a Might and Magic CRPG to return to their roots
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Lann is the best Owlcat husbando and any woman who says otherwise is hiding her copy of Morning Glory Milking Farm in shame like a little bitch.
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>>542610250
>Morning Glory Milking Farm
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>>542609084
all the girl companions and Jimmy subs to them all
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>>542609459
that's exactly what you spend your charges on. bladedancer is for sweeping trash.
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>>542609084
Argenta, but she only posts videos of burning heretics, how to clean your bolter and that sort of stuf
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>>542612545
>He never clicked omnislash death waltz on a boss and went to get a drink
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>>542612819
the ultimate is good for both yes but it's also an ultimate. in most cases a bladedancer is best balls deep behind enemy lines, surrounded and disposing of trash.
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>>542607937
Starting a run with Legacy right now
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>>542616891
Already saw a gobbo in first town, this is a good omen
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>>542617548
But Kenghi died in Tribes of the East! They killed Kenghi, those bastards!
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>>542617721
He became a cook for gobbo pirates and after a failed raid this dude spared him and made him a cook for his inn
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Which way, white man?
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>>542618868
I leave with Arueshalae and hold hands.
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>>542616891
Not seeing this on steam when I search for Heroes of Might and Magic Legacy, what is this?
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>>542618957
Arue must have had like a dozen sex in there
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We all had her, but anon married her
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You're wrong. The cute virgin who has never had sex that you imagine in your mind? She's masturbating while reading a book about getting fucked by Cthulhu. That is a million times more bodies than Arueshalae's body count, which means that Arueshalae is purer than a virgin because her MIND is purified by Desna. Que Ee Dee
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>>542619029
Here is the link https://store.steampowered.com/app/238750/Might__Magic_X__Legacy/
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>>542619379
Does the game have any more sexo waifus? Love armored bitches
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>>542619379
>can't offer to give her new sons
fun game otherwise
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>>542619379
Thanks, whenever I think of HoMM games I think of some weird board-game mode thats closer to WotR's crusades than a real rpg. Its like the rpg versions of these are all buried.
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>>542619267
>a book about getting fucked by Cthulhu
Book title?
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>>542607937
I liked the old mm games and the last one. They are decent autism simulators provided you can get past the graphics.
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>>542620260
Axiom's End
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>>542619662
just started blind run idk, going down the wellto fight spiders
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>>542618957
>hold hands
Arueshalae's touch will drain you, and the experience will push her back towards demonhood.
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>>542620386
Jaheira's lesser known sibling
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>>542620369
ChatGPT says there aren't any sex scenes with the aliens (yes, I've asked)
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>>542620794
>ChatGPT says
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>>542620983
C'mon, I've read some reviews and browsed context warnings, and at one point I just asked.
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>>542620983
I just realized there's a chance 4chan may start calling things AI/ChatGPT as a replacement insult adjective for Reddit.
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Shadowrun: Hong Kong is fun so far. A little dated here and there but I don't mind.
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>>542622054
what do you mean haha it just came out recently...
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>>542621949
Same thing.
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>>542622126
kek
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>>542620794
it told me Lacroix in vtmb's first name is matthew
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this general is dead aislop
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>>542622632
It was Sebastian, wasn't it?
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>>542622690
yes, yes it was.
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How did you build him in your favorite/canon run?
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>>542622754
He had a great voice actor
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>>542622858
The game in general does. To the point that you can really tell when something is rushed and doesn't have a professional va, like the bounty hunter in santa monica that sounds like one of the programmers or staff had to voice him.
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>>542623017
It's been well over 10 years that I've played it the last time. Played a Tremere and sided with Lacroix. Didn't end well for me.
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>>542623017
Who Gimble? Yeah Gimble!
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>>542623176
>Played a Tremere and sided with Lacroix
Wtf why. You literally have a better option for free.
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>>542622195
>1990 was 43 years ago
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There's definitely something wrong with the timeline. Bunch of people were shilling that new FFT release, but it literally just came out on PSP recently...
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>>542622778
Kensei/Mage always and forever
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>>542623703
Do you not sometimes make your first character and just go with the flow?
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>>542609084
Marazhai (he's a sub so he counts as a girl)
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>>542622778
melee party support
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>>542609084
Kibellah duh maybe Yrliet to lure in retarded simps but she wouldn't post anything.
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Why would you nerf classes in a single player game? Owlcat is retarded
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>>542630550
What game are you referring to?
In Wrath, all the nerfs were technically bugfixes. That's why all the strongest classes are still the strongest and all the nerfed classes were already lower tier.
In RT, Cassia is still the strongest character.
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>>542630550
Cause its way too easy?
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>>542630550
They want you to play new broken class instead of old broken class.
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>>542630550
>if you're talking about RT
Because making the game trivial on the hardest difficulty is already easy.
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>two companions hate each other
>one is hurt really bad
>try to have the other heal them
>"oh, hmm, seems like my spells aren't working right, that's too bad..."

How would you feel about this in a CRPG?
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>>542631968
heal the injured companion myself and leverage it for sex later
rape correct the other companion
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>>542631968
Would be very nice and I'll clap the first 2 times this happens. I will then curse anyone who even says this is a good idea after the third.
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>>542631968
Darkest Dungeon 2 has something like this. When I first saw it it was pretty cool, but you actually have no control over it so it quickly got pretty infuriating.
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>>542624235
Yes but my first character was a Toreador female who wanted Nines' dick very, very badly and LaCroix kept being a paranoid schizo.
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>>542631968
>It should work! Is it flawed?
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>>542635775
some people can't appreciate bad endings - especially owlslopper power fantasy losers. im sure their next 'grim dark' power fantasy will be all good endings DLC waifu bot
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>>542636198
>especially owlslopper power fantasy losers
Kingmaker ended with me marrying Valerie and then shooting myself out of a ballista to escape the kingdom within two months, whereafter the nation fractured and balkanized because of her "leadership". Nobody even cares to read Linzi anymore because my story was such a footnote. That's not a bad ending?
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my favorite owlslopperism is where the bots all play the dlc meant for separate campaigns in the main campaign then get mad at it. when told to stop they say (they are really this stupid) 'it has items and exp.'
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>>542636198
Anon if I wanted bad endings I'd focus on my real life
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varinhold's lot was a pretty good dlc 8 years ago, but you can see where we are at now where they only make romance DLC for cringe losers who were very impressed by mass effects 'citadel' and like to pretend thats what having friends is like. im sure 5 years from now the next owlslop will be set in a highschool like persona
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>>542637397
It's better than what having friends is like. All of my friends from high school are gone, but my Normandy crew will never leave me.
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>>542632305
>I will then curse anyone who even says this is a good idea after the third.
>>542633573
>you actually have no control over it

So the key I guess would be working a bit on having a cohesive party to avoid it? Like not just "I hate you die" between companions, but more like Xan settling Ajantis down but with your influence
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>pick what looks good and is immediately strong
>its actually shit because its not a multiplier that matters 10 levels down the line
what game
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>>542637397
>My First Year At Kenabres University And Our Professor Is... Deskari?!
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>>542637718
>DD2 affinity system
I played it during beta and I think that back then it was really just too fucking RNG. Haven't really played it since.
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>>542637397
there is irony here that I think you're not picking up on
have you seen what games and characters the owlcat devs themselves like?
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>>542637397
This. Owlcat should return to their true form and release kino like Inevitable Excess again.
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>Hug Idira
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>>542637397
Dark Heresy should have 2 acts of inquisitor academy.
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>>542637397
>my russian high school sweetheart just cuckolded me and i leveled up?
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Every time I get the urge to play kingmaker I get to kingdom management and then quit
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do I have an infinite amount of time before doing the coronation to make the stolen lands a full fledged country or am I timed on that too. I have likev4 companion quests to do and 5 backlogged barony upgrades and I still need to go to the cursed island to find the cleric guy
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One of the most critical attacks on the kingdom of Mendev by the demons doesn't happen if you don't attend a wedding where the groom literally wears cuckold's horns.
I was just surprised his bride didn't turn out to be a Lilitu.
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>>542636198
I thought the ending for my Tremere was fitting. I bet she thought "that schizo rambling of the girl on the beach made sense after all" when they opened the sarcophagus.
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>>542638505
same it ruins the game
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>>542637397
I'd unrionically like a DLC like that one for RT where it has consequences in main story. Maybe you play as Evayne and you can try to fix shit in dad's protectorate and maybe even redeem Caligos before the shit on Quetza starts and you get a slightly different route where you without the jungle maze crap decide what to do with Eldar with asane Caligos and Caligos has a scene vs Chorda.
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Will we ever get another Heather Poe situation in a CRPG again?
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>>542638797
>it's a JEWeler's plot, actually
Every time
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>>542639226
>and you get a slightly different route where you without the jungle maze crap decide what to do with Eldar with asane Caligos and Caligos has a scene vs Chorda.
Oh, This bit is for the RT in main campaign after importing save at end of Act 3.**
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>>542639226
People hated most of their mini campaign dlc so they’ll never do it again
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>>542638198
*bumps into cannibal waifu*
watch you are going loser! i'm soon to be the strongest inquisitor here so stay out of my way!
*cuckold waifu interrupts*
inquisitor-san, i made a bento for you....do you want to eat together and talk about my last boyfriend?
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>>542637982
No, what do they themselves like?
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the demons don't want you to know this, but the earth blasts are free. you can just take them home with you. i have 10 earth blasts
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On the one hand I want to do a heavy gunner build but given patch 1.5 will be in 2 weeks I should probably hold off. I think I'll do pyro executioner before the nerfs hit, at this point dogmatic is an addiction and I've failed to do either heretic or icono despite having 300 hours in the game.
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>>542639345
This place would never stop sperging out about humiliation rituals if we got a quest where the entire point is that if you complete it you're a monster and there's no good end
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>>542640038
I remember losing a shield I liked by toggling the use-shield as 1-hand weapon button and taking the fake spike shield in and out
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>>542639345
certainly not in vtmb 2
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I want a hybrid of Sims 4 and a CRPG in some fantasy setting with various fantasy races fromhumanoid ones to maybe some more exotic things like gorgons. Where you can interact with NPCs in it with your party who are treated like a household in sims and of course the party can interact with each other and form friendships, rivalries, romances same with NPCs. It would have Turn Based Combat and dungeon crawls just like in other games, but with that sims element with NPC interaction, with it affecting some quests (like if you're friends with someone he might help you out for free instead of charging or asking you to do something in return). There would be a main story, but also a lot of sandboxing like in TS4, so you could just spend a long time in the town just living, doing odd jobs forming various relationships and stories in social events like they have in TS4, but adjusted for a fantasy setting, both with civilians or with guilds/factions.
How would you anons feel about this? Do you think it's good/has potential or shit idea in of itself and/or would flop because no one would like the concept even if done well? And if you like it which setting do you think this would somewhat fit (or would require OC)
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>>542639345
It's a vampire specific scenario, so likely not. Helping characters that leads to them in a worse spot happens fairly often imho.
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>>542639345
Not without Avellone's writing
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>>542640796
>pic
Men complain that women want to milk minotaurs but then they look at this and can't stop fapping. The male gaze is disgusting and hypocritical!
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>>542640796
Could be good, but sounds very ambitious. Realistically if Sims devs wanna get on the BG3 craze they could try making such a hybrid. Imo they don't even need to up the graphics.Otherwise lot of work fro the ground up as you are making 2 complex games in one, assuming the combat won't be dumbed down.
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>>542640631
V5 focuses pretty hard on the personal horror stuff
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>>542640796
this just sounds like an adjusted rune factory
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>>542640284
>heavy gunner build
I tried building Jae around the Eldar catapult and no matter which talents I give her it does pathetic damage
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>>542640796
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>>542641241
Yeah, that's because shuriken catapults are pathetic lasgun-tier weapons, not heavy weapons?
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>>542641241
Heavy bolter can shit out damage if built correctly but you need to spam that one officer ability that prevents damage being reduced below 42%.
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>>542640796
>How would you anons feel about this?
Would be kino, just make it moddable and the possibilities are endless
>Do you think it's good/has potential or shit idea in of itself and/or would flop because no one would like the concept even if done well?
It's a good idea since it gives endless replay value if it's trully like ts4. I think it would sell well, it would attract a ton of women too, since they are the primary audience for sims.
>And if you like it which setting do you think this would somewhat fit (or would require OC)
DnD is the most normie friendly and would attract the most people
But you could do it with a generic fantasy OC setting or any of the ones who don't have aa hard ip to obtain.
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>>542640796
There's Majesty the Fantasy Kingdom Sim but that's more like Sim City meets CRPG.
Personally I never liked Sims because it's just too synthetic.
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Damn I want to fuck that Starfinder Android girl in the face
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>>542641406
Nah that was just sims in middle ages with some fantasy and combat stuff that were skillcheks.
I mean a legitimate CRPG and Sims hybrid. Where you have Solasta/BG/Pathfinder etc. style turn based combat, classes, loot and leveling system with most of the character interactions and relationships being sims style sandbox stuff.
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>>542641421
No I mean the heavy gun thing. The shuriken cannon.
>lasgun tier
Lasgun Argenta is best Argenta
>>542641517
>heavy bolter
But heavy bolter is just easy to build around.
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Damn female crpg creatures always activating the human biological impulse for reproduction and subverting the willpower in order to allow the genetic procreation organism which uses us as hosts to penetrate them and deposit life essence for the sole purpose of reproduction in their deceitful way of subjugating our souls
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>>542639857
Sold.
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>>542641241
I don't think any of the xenos guns are particularly good. If someone knows some trick to make them do anything, please share. Dark Lances are lascannon equivalents, which in any of the various tabletop games, instantly kill anything they hit. They just hit one target and maybe kill it if it is the lowest tier scrub in RT. Why would you ever invest in this shit when you could use a heavy bolter that shoots 10 times a turn with every hit being the same or even higher.
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>>542640796
If it's moddable and has the same amount of porn mods as sims 4, then it would be the best fucking game ever. Modchads make it so you fucck your way through the entire game, turn all bad guys and npcs into waifus and let you breed em.
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>>542636094
>this spell's faulty, no, really
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>>542642217
I actually tried speccing Marazhai into that without really uprooting his entire kit. It was ass. I don't really think single shots can catch up with burst fire shit around late game.
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Blessed Iomedae, if only I could BREEEED!!!!!!
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>>542640038
Can you dual wield those?
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>>542642542
That's Marazhai in general. Because leaving him as his "intended" role as a melee character is also ass.
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>>542642542
>>542642217
For me it's trying to make dual wield stub revolvers work.
It doesn't.
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>>542642542
I don't think anyone can make marzipan good
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Speaking or RT, does anybody know what the fuck is a Cryptogeometric sentinel?
In any other games it would've been a scary boss, but in RT I always just kill him so quickly I have no idea what the fuck he does.
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>>542642692
yes lmao
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>>542642542
I kept Marz as he is and hes good for me
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>>542640038
>each earth blast costs 3 gold
Hmmmmmmmmm
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>>542640796
I'm surprised no one tried this by now, I think the social mechanics of the sims series are a wasted potential. They would fit pretty damn well in a crpg, to allow your character to have interactions with all the npcs and companions that isn't pre-scripted or murderhoboing.
Even without a story could work as a sandbox with randomly generated dungeons and quests. But EA won't inovate just DLC whore to femcels
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>>542644535
>crpg
Well RPG in general. Hell, would be cool to have in Skyrim
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>>542642612
In a real power fantasy, you could breed Iomedae
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>>542640796
If that got made this general would be unusable.
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>>542644535
>>542644872
fable did it
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>>542638760
please respond
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>>542638760
I think the entirety of kingmaker is timed, every chapter has a certain time limit. But it's way too generous to ever be an issue, usually months in-game time.
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>>542638760
>>542645432
>Anon's been having a melty every step of the way due to time concerns
Literally me a decade ago. Frankly, there is no real "time limit" of sorts unless the game has a repeating event that you might fuck up as it gets harder and harder to clear.
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Wrapped in the guise of man shall he walk amongst the fiendish, and judgement shall purge they that dwell within the Abyss. Their skies shall rain justice and the ocean shall be bathed in the light. The wicked shall fall before the righteous and all of creation shall tremble before the golden standards of the Crusade!

The gate stands ready. Now, my young husband, the time has come for you to assume your true form. Arise, Commader, Angel of Wrath.
You are the harbinger of our advance, Commander. Send forth your Wrath of the Righteous into the Abyss!
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I hate J*e
I love Jaethal
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owlcat is producing buggier dating novel flops

Larian made the game of the decade
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>>542647031
BG3 isn't profitable because it took them over a decade to make it
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Is there no vendor in Drezen that sells Potions of Remove Blindness?
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>>542648039
Arsinoe, over near the temple, should sell scrolls of remove blindness and read them for you. Ember, Sosiel, and Daeran can also read the scrolls
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>>542648892
Yeah but I want something snappy I can have my characters quaff when some bullshit aura or whatever gets cast on them, mid combat
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>>542645813
Gay lmao
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>>542649091
Then invest into Use Magic Item stocks
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Whats the ideal roguetrader party, so far I got the regular crew, kinda want Hendrix on the team though - not sure if I replace Pasqal or Argenta.
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>>542649091
When is blindness ever that much of an issue?
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>>542649091
there's maybe a handful of encounters in the game that can even afflict blindness. in all cases, just bring ember or daeran with the spell
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>>542649725
>Operative Assassin RT + Jae, Abelard, Yrliet, Kibellah, Argenta
That was my last main lineup. It covered every skill.
What's your team so far?
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>>542649725
Chadqal is good for tech and logic if you don't have that
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Game is pretty challenging actually had some reloads on the Naga boss and the minions put up a fight
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>>542650535
RT is a flamethrower Master Tactician
Abelard & Argenta as Arch-Militants
Cassia is a Grand Strategist
Pascal is an Overseer
Idira as a Bounty Hunter

So far Abelard, Casia and Idira are carrying hard. Still haven't found a decent weapon for Argenta, and still a few profit factor from getting her the heavy bolter. Pascal basically just waits for a few of those expose things to stack up so he can one-shot using a sniper.
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>>542639345
>>542640821
I miss Avellone, fucking awful that he got falsely accused of sexual harassment and went AWOL for 10+years from the industry. At least he's getting work again and won the court case
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>avernum 4 has been announced
Is Vogel just going to keep making the same game but slightly better until he dies?
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>>542652120
I'd advise not running both Idira and Heinrix unless you're willing to wrangle with Perils. Heinrix is also easy to screw up, build wise, so be careful.

You can build any character as almost any offered archetype, provided you know what you're doing.
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>>542643467
He's ok as assassin esp if you give him high dodge. When I didn't have Kibs he was the one doing zoomies all over the map
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>>542652473
what is he working on now?
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Marazhai
And Yrliet
Holding hands
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>>542652532
He has the autism, yes.
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>still no female Marazhai mod
I expect too much from "modders". I guess they'll just post another AI portrait pack and call it a mod.
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>>542653730
Just be gay. It's easy
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Can setting can I lower to reduce the hardware strain the toxic clouds cause in roguetrader?
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Avernum 12 will be when crpgs as a genere peak.
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>>542653730
>That scene with his armour where you fondle his chest for some fucking reason
I see the vision.
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>>542638760
the kingmaker wiki is actually a pretty good source for date limits
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>>542653971
No that's gay.
>>542654304
All it would take is deleting the voice packs and changing his portrait and in game model.
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>>542654417
The kingmaker wiki is a better WotR wiki than the WotR Fextra.
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>>542654942
is it? I've seen the wrath weapon data there but not anything else.
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>>542654749
>deleting the voice packs
You're probably on to something, a genderswap mod that leaves everything virtually the same except some romance scenes and the name being switched to female would really be easy to make, relatively speaking.

And only streamers and the illiterate need VA in text heavy crpgs, almost every dialogue that has it is improved with its removal with only a couple exceptions.
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>>542655048
A lot of quests have pretty detailed articles
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>hates marzipan
>okay with marzipan exactly as he is but with tits
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>>542655542
I treat men and women differently because they are different.
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What video games do your companions play?
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>>542652848
WolfsEye studio I think,former Arkane devs created it after that studio crashed and burned
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>>542655857
Arcane made immursive sims, we want proper rpgs.
Nok-nok was my favourite character in kingmaker and he was written by avellone. We need more avellone crpg inputs desu.
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>>542656289
Everyone here loves vtmb
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He also wrote the priest in poe, forgot his name. But he was kind of an interesting, ruthless, unconventional priest. Even his introduction in the game was eye catching where you randomly stumble upon him mid road and he makes the statue burst into flames.
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>>542655542
Yes, I like evil women.
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>>542656289
>>542656678
it's kinda heartening to see even zoomzooms recognize the goat even from newer games. I just hope his cancelling cooled off his arrogance. he was getting pretty up his own ass by the time he got me2'd.
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>>542656454
vtmb had rpg elements and tried to implement stuff from the tabletop.
You could make builds for example, you had diplomatic stats as well as combat ones.
Dishonored, though a good game, but it never fills in the rpg itch you get. There's no dialogue, no open world, no side quests, etc.
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>>542655674
>>542656712
in this case you just want to fuck an actual man
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>>542656454
vtmb was made by Troika
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Apparently avellone is working on judas with ken levigne. What a fucking waste. Levigne is a retard and having someone like avellone work on immersive sims is a waste of his potential, he's a great writer, let him write on rpgs damn it.
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excuse me but what the fuck
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>>542657581
What's wrong?
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>>542656883
I don't know if by zoomzooms you mean me or just younger folks in general 'cause I'm probably as old as avellone himself. I mentioned his most recent works on purpose to show that he's still good and didn't lose his touch.
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>>542657652
the two forgefiends mostly. wasn't like that in alpha and is definitely overkill for this point in the game. if I hadn't come here absolutely last I'd be completely fucked.
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In WotR during Act I I finished all the quests and can attack the garrison before cultist attack, however after I got the rewards I cancelled the attack because I wanted to do other quests first. After a few rests I got the prompt that cultists are attacking the tavern regardless, can I do event or is it going to break some quests (because I technically already completed it)?

>>542657843

Eh, they aren't as powerful as the one that you find actually it finds you on the derelict ship
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The hacking minigame where you walk around as an avatar in the machine thing is dumb and I hate that kind of thing, but I have no other complaints about SR: Hong Kong so far.
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>>542658279
>Eh, they aren't as powerful as the one that you find actually it finds you on the derelict ship
yeah I've noticed that while fighting but still seems like overkill
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>>542658361
You would fucking hate the tabletop
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who else is high af right now? also the spider robe is really useful for exploration or skipping some puzzles.
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>>542659514
Lots of running through nonsense rooms as an electronic ghost avoiding the sensors that make you do hack-combat?
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>Continue kingmaker playthrough after trolls
>Continue wotr playthrough in grey garrison
>Continue rogue trader playthrough in act 2 start
>Play other games
Options are good I guess?
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>>542659781
Deckers have to play a completely separate game that everyone is forced to sit there and watch yeah
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>>542657843
So the constant kicks in the nuts is constant in the owlcataloguel? I dumped kangmaker for this reason. Just endless bullshit shoveled at me until I finally snapped.
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the solasta chad: i'm high af

the owlslop cuck: words words words words cuck cuck cuck
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>>542660489
I also like owlcat games to, im going to get high af and be a demon hunter when dark heresy comes out.
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>>542660479
yeah that's pretty much their MO. they're the shitty dm that thinks
>tpk?
>good :^)
thankfully toybox and bag of tricks let you cheat some of their shittier stuff out. I just call it homebrew :)
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>>542660479
Rogue trader is incredibly easy and pretty much only gets easier as it goes along.
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They said the thing!
Well they've said it before. I don't quite get what a shadowrunner is, but I'm sure I'll pick it up from context eventually.
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Can owlcat just make a game with a normal story?
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>>542662079
What's a 'normal story' to you, babe?
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>>542658532
>>542657581
This fight is doable even if you go to Kiava Gamma first like I did blind, and isn't even the most frustrating part of this mission. It helps to have two tanks, in this case Heinrix and Abelard. I had them plus of course Pasqal and eventually pasqal built up enough kill thing stacks that he was able to blast them down with his superweapon.
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>>542662597
they were pretty weak but that census nigger just refused to get damaged by some attacks. in any case I've been done for a bit. trying to decide on prayers or alms for the ceremony now.
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Maybe game journalist difficulty would be more up your alley?
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>>542662940
I won just fine tho? doesn't make it less unnecessary.
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What's the objectively best kind of familiar?
A rat, right?
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>we can now install augmentations of any complexity
>never brought up again or even used as a mechanic
How did Owlcat shit the bed this hard? This is literally mentioned in the prologue but never fucking used. The flesh is weak, let me replace my arm with cybernetics.
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>>542663076
It's because augments are going to be DLC
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Owlcat leaker here. The season 3 dlc will be out right after the balance patch drops.
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>>542660479
>RT
>hard
There is a secret to stomping the game past extreme early game even on the highest difficulty, you just need at least 80 IQ to apply it
>check which 2 stats a character archetype scales with
>pick every talent that mentions the two stats
Proceed to one shot every encounter because of XP bloat. Rogue Trader is extremely easy as long as you are not randomly pressing buttons.
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>>542660870
Companion advancement is done like this which is interesting. Guess they get some fixed stat changes and you get to choose one of two things per level.
I enjoy taking the time to build up companions as well as the MC, but I understand not everyone does, and I'm okay with this.
Along with how you only control yourself, it's a bit like they're followers more than you controlling a party of individuals. I have to say I miss formations and setting up approaches though, that's something I like in every CRPG I've played.
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Owlcat writer here. I made your waifu fuck another man while you weren't looking.
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you will never play toee

you couldn't even handle underrail

you are just a pathetic owlslopping zoomer born too late for bioware, and you won't even play that either despite it having better graphics than your unity engine jank
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>>542663050
I like the weasel from NWN2. Rats are usually associated with disease and I wouldn't want one around me.
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The leveling system in Rogue Trader would be better if you could upload a CSV of your completed build and have it auto-assign your level ups. The way you have to manually do it makes ever switch your party members something to dread.
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Love the footman drip
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Wasn't underrail made by a slav? Owlcat should just copy underrails combat design but you have a team.
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no he was serbian (turkish/balkan) not russian (urdmut/slavic)
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>>542663219
>please wait 3 years and pay for a feature which should have shipped with the base game
>>542663581
To be fair Footfall and Janus are noticeable bumps in the difficulty curve. After that its back to easy mode but everything up until that point can be quite aids depending on your intiative luck.
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>>542664129
No one in the actual world cares about those distinctions. Russian or European is good enough over there.
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>>542660870
It pretty much means "adventurer"
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>>542663581
Naw man I'm not about to get burned by owlkek again. Unless they complete the fantasy flight trilogy I'd like to play as a spiky boy for once.
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>>542663850
lol, I had ToEE on a magazine CD. Oddly enough, that version came with a bug that you couldn't loot killed enemies. Patches didn't work, because the magazine version somehow was different. People posted solutions in the forum of the magazine, but those posts always got deleted for no particular reason. The whole game was unplayable because of this. Fuck you to all eterny, PC Games, you piece of shit.
On of these days I have to play the game. I at least remember that the character sheets listed the number of rerolls you made for every character.
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>>542664031
Underrail is the best, but it wouldn't work as a party game.
>>542664290
>initiative is the most dangerous enemy
True.
>Footfall and Janus are hard
You can completely outscale the game after the first Rykad fight because early game Cassia.
>>542664507
>>542664129
But Serbs are very competitive and serious about who is the best at sucking Russian dick, so they'd be honored if you mix them up.
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If you bring Cassia with you on missions you're a stupid faggot dumb dumb, she's far too precious to ever leave the ship you doo doo head poopy boopy stupid boy
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>>542664031
It won't work. It works best when done solo, I can't even imagine how piss easy the game would be if you had another unit to control.
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that game was mid, stop capitalizing some low tier npc name. play a real rpg
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>>542665458
>early game Cassia
Nah Janus and the Anders fights are still difficult in spite of Cassia thanks to infinite daemons or Anders butt rushing you before you can get a turn in. Aurora can also be difficult thanks to the RNG on his heavy bolter.
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>>542665771
Blackstone Fortress also has it's RT protag bring the navigator around for missions. It's not that wierd.
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>>542665771
She can melt everyone to death
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Aurora is a girl's name
Aurora Borealis, in this sector, on this planet, at this time?
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>>542665458
>>542665849
Isnt there supposed to be companions in underrail two?
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>>542666040
>Amallyn "40K" Shadowguide
Best girl and hard mogs Yrilet.
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>>542666424
There's also limb damage last I checked so it's probably a lot more different now.
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>>542666040
>bald sister
Imagine...
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>>542665996
>losing initiative
That's what Grand Strategist is for.
>Aurora
This is why you take the Swift Movements talent. You can scatter your dudes during the setup phase so the heavy bolter doesn't kill half of your party in the first round.
>>542666424
Styg is a mad genius. Who the hell knows what's going to be in Infusion?
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Why did they RAPE the lore by allowing you to recruit xenos? 40k has never allowed this.
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Owlcat should wait for underrail 2 to come out then copy its game play.
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>>542666665
Im sorry but RT the first 40gay thing allowed you to
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>>542666485
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>>542666665
>he doesn't know about the half-Eldar Ultramarine from the 80s
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>>542666665
>me and my Come the Apocalypse besties
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>>542666665
Literally been a thing the rogue trader has been able to do since first edition. The wierd part is that you dont have a ton of xenos mercs and unsactioned psykers, the whole point of being a rogue trader is that you have a ton of xenos mercs + tech and unsactioned psykers so that way no one can fuck with you unless they have a large army
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Reckless or forceful strike? I think reckless will be more fun for pure gorilla power but forceful lets you charge after.
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>>542667043
You would just get retards like that anon who complain about it being "lore-breaking"
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>>542666617
>Grand Strategist
At most you get two people to move before the anders get their turns and zerg you with their shotguns.
>Swift Movements
Every time the fight has been complete RNG for me, sometimes he decides to skip gunning the squad down others he will go run to a corner, get the weirdest angle and kill 2 people before I can even react.
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>Karlach's VA took inspiration from Titus Pullo when finding the right tone for the character
Based
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>>542609383
Jae knows how to use a camera to deceive
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*check CRPG poster card*
'uuuhhh under 5 crpgs? you wanna post about VA's, romances, and owlcat? /Vreddit/ is down the hall way and to the left buddy.'
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>>542668890
Swearing isn't based when a woman's doing it. Women aren't men. They should be prim and proper, pious and virtuous, as Princeps Civitatis Octavian Augustus Caesar decreed in his Moral Laws.
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>>542668706
>only 2 people
That should be enough, especially if one of them is Cassia.
>Aurora 1st turn RNG
Yeah that happens but it's about minimizing the harm he does in the first round, not preventing it because you can't do that without God RNG.
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>>542669395
>That should be enough, especially if one of them is Cassia.
You're right depending on what you consider a win. My autism treats any trauma as a complete failure even if I could just hop back on my ship to heal it.
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>>542667043
Yeah the weirdest thing about RT is what the hell is Jimmy doing there lmao
Fish out of water
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>>542669330
You need to Sneed
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>>542663850
>Get to first encounter in this game
>Get ass gaped by frogs
Not knowing the system doesn't help
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>>542669616
One of the colony projects, on Janus I think, grants you recurring medpacks that heal traumas (but no hitpoints)
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>>542669712
Argenta and Jimmy's non-stop seething about stuff my warnt of trade allows me to do is annoying ngl.
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>>542669243
I have over crpgs just in the TES franchise alone, babe ;)
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Owlcat should give us a null gf in the next dlc.
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>>542656883
>thinking zoomers actually browse /crpg/ lmao
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[Shitposting: Critical Fail]
over 5, I meant.
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the best part about being a rogue trader is a roster full of companions who hate deviation from dogma and having one type of alien join the retinue
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>>542670416
thanks for the Cover Anon they almost got me
now they'll never find out i was born in 2001
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>>542670260
Make it like the Y*****t romance from the other direction
You can't bear to even touch your null gf
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leltard! iconocluck! cucklol! lelftist!
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>AIslop
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>>542665771
I feel like the logic of keeping your Navigator super close to you at all times works because you just recently had a full blown chaos cult/mutiny + Genestealer cult on your ship.
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Camellia should have been black and her ass should have been bigger.
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>>542671238
Only if you make it so she kills her victims by assphyxiation.
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>>542665771
If this was a real rogue trader game you would just commandeer every single navigator you run into tell anyone who complains "go fuck yourself" and have like 10 back ups.
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>>542670959
cutemellia
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magritium, turinos.
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>>542655048
It's gotten better, at this point it's the superior choice, especially for item locations and quest data. I don't know why garbage like Fextralofe is still the top result.
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>>542666485
Amallyn was the popular girl at school and bullied Y****t
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igniss!
*misses*
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>>542669712
They have to appeal to the muh heresy spergs
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My Rogue Trader's internal soundtrack when he engages some fucking heretics in battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqWHIq-aZw&list=RDmhqWHIq-aZw&start_radio=1
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40k would never let you play as an alien.
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No body gives a shit (especially GW themselves) about lore purity. Mass Effecting 40K to bang alien waifus is a good thing.
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>>542673414
This. Some people kitbash alien armies but it's not official
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I care about unmitigated and unstoppable racism being a power of strength and victory. That's why I am a 40k fan. For the Emperor Protects.
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>>542673414
Also a thing you can do since the first edition of rouge trader.
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>>542673506
>No body gives a shit (especially GW themselves) about lore purity
Then why did they veto Argenta romance and disaprove of Eldar x human male
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>>542673414
but you can literally buy alien sets
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>>542673506
The joke is that you don't have to mass effect it. 40k started with Rogue Trader and 40k has always let you play aliens. It's just larpers who politically identify with the comically evil space empire who think otherwise
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I play 40k because it lets me be racist against humans
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I care about accurate and feasible depictions of humanity in media I consume. That's why I am a 40k fan. For we are a tragic misstep in evolution.
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Warhammer 40k RPG but only non-playable female characters have sex with aliens and you can't kill them or the aliens. If you try, an invisible forcefield stops you.
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>>542674086
The female player character is fucking aliens
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>>542673979
No you can't
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>>542673687
I was banned from my hobby shop for yelling at the owner over his disgusting bigoted anti-human knockoff "official" alien army kits and codices. Sick of this shit.
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I play 40k because there are armoured men in red and they have big axes and they hit each other a lot.
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If you play as anything other than what you politically identify with, then you are a thought criminal.
If your politics do not align with based and redpilled Imperium then you are a traitor to 4chan.
Rejoice, for by playing as an Imperium Dogmatic Rogue Trader you too can become cured of your mental illness.
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>>542674197
but I wanted to get a deldar set
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If you romance an Eldar female as a female you have a very happy lesbian relationship, but as a male you and her are both miserable
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Lesbian (Happy (For an Eldar Lesbian))
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Every game dev and setting maker needs to realize that non-human women are made for human cocks and they need to lust after human males and submit to their cocks.
This is why 40K is shit, the xeno women don't lust after human male cocks.
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40k but all the xenos specifically do not like human men.
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Human men live short lives and only think about sex, the aliens are right to not want them.
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I thought Russians were funny? Owlcat really needs to work in their humor.
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>>542675640
Laughable does not equate funny.
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>40k posting
>thread quality plummets
sounds about right
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Listen, you fags don’t understand the metaphysical hierarchy of desire in fantasy worldbuilding. It’s not “weird” or “male fantasy” that elves, orcs, catgirls, and alien bitches all want human men — it’s cosmic inevitability. Humanity represents the apex template of consciousness. Every other species, no matter how advanced biologically, spiritually yearns for that raw human spark. The gods coded it into the narrative fabric of reality. That’s why every RPG romance gravitates toward the human protagonist — not because of writing laziness, but because the human soul is the universal attractor of the feminine principle.
Elves? They’re stagnant immortals craving mortality’s chaos. Orcs? They see in man’s fragility the thing they can’t destroy in themselves. Robots and AI waifus? They literally dream of being human — and the only way they can get close is by fusing with the masculine essence of one. This isn’t “fetishization,” it’s ontological magnetism. The moment you remove human male desirability, the entire interspecies romantic ecosystem collapses. There’s no tension, no yearning, no synthesis. Developers that make non-human races lust after each other instead of the human player are spitting in the face of ancient narrative law. It’s Jungian, it’s mythic. The monster-girl archetype exists because she reflects back what humanity represses instinct, magic, wildness and in return, she demands to be claimed by the mortal that completes her pattern. It’s not muh misogyny, it’s symmetry.
Every RPG that understands this — Mass Effect trilogy, BG2, BG3 etc. taps into that primal truth. It’s not cringe, it’s literally how the universe works. The human man is the axis mundi of desire. Everyone else just orbits it.
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>>542675525
Human men are an analogy for Russian men
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>>542676082
Gay?
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Thread quality is worse today in general but I don't know if its because of 40k exactly, there's been plenty of RT shitposts in previous days.
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>>542676354
owlcat marketing for the balance patch and dlc coming out.
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Im just saying solasta doesn't need marketing they just drop a trailer and say coming soon.
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And now no one knows about it.
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Solasta is shit because it doesn't have romance
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Solasta is beautiful
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>>542663590
It seems to me that there's a lot of under-the-hood conditional checks in the SR: Hong Kong dialogues. I'm still early in the game but have already seen a few times where it seems previous actions and responses are considered in dialogue responses. It all feels very natural, where I pick the options which feel right for my character and it proceeds very book-like without feeling like I'm just exhausting the branches of a tree.
I'm sure a lot of that is some "movie magic" where I'm choosing between Option A: 6, and Option B: Half a dozen. But I get the feeling there's some meaningful differentiation in a lot of situations here, though I'm not reloading to find out or anything.

In a previous dialogue we played a little game where we'd ask each other questions. I saved what I knew what would be the most difficult question, one she wouldn't want to answer, for last and it almost seemed as if it responded to me having done so, but I can't be sure.
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There should have been an option to tell Y*****t that she's a stagnant immortal
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Who was the most unhinged romancefag in this general's history?
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>>542677535
Froggy
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This bitch is forever slurping soup
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>>542677535
Me
I'm the main Yrlietfag but I also post a lot of anti-Y*****t stuff
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>>542677748
If the soup is good..?
Everyone's got a favorite soup.
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>>542677748
isnt that normal in china. I thought all they ate was ramen and rice.
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>>542677353
No u
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>>542677748
I don't blame her one bit, shadowrunning's a tough life, it's always dark and raining so you need plenty of soup
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>>542677535
That fag from when /rtg/ was up that was sperging at someone suggesting giving Argenta an NPC romance and how Tali x Garrus was cuckoldry when someone made the comparison for almost an entire thread.
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>>542678068
Nothing goes better with a dark, rainy day than soup.
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>>542678310
>giving Argenta an NPC romance
She actually has one already, it's just not lampshaded
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>>542677948
hot pot is the stereotype, but there's a lot of variation
also in reality there's a ton of regional variation, and some cities or regions are known for specific dishes
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>>542677535
The Valeriefag that never actually played Kingmaker and kept talking like a retard.
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Im just saying owlcat should make a turn based 4e game.
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Has there ever been a 4e game
I have yet to play a pf2 video game or a 5e 2024. The few multiclass tricks I used in 2025 5e like low lvl in warlock and low lvl cleric instatly getting domain and subclass are patched out so makes me feel like neutered system is already more neutered but I hope it surprises me since it's what you can find tables for easily... take me back to when that was pathfinder or make a new system already
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>>542677535
Cuckschizos as a whole starting from that farmer fag
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>>542678310
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/484403089/#q484411949
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>>542679242
Used in 2014* 5e
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>>542679242
People fucking hated 4e
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>>542679242
No, everyone fucking skipped it. It's always 3.5E then 5E.
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>>542678617
QRD? Wasn't around those days
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>wizards says that they want to also make some smaller scale side games after the success of bg3
Owlcat should make a birthright game. Thats a setting that could suit their writing style and game design.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OO3BRT7XuM
RatcatcherCHADS it's gonna happen
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>>542679494
Basically one guy that talked weird and liked Valerie a lot that he would post how much he loved her and would ask you if you loved Valerie too (everyone has their own Valerie). It was then revealed he didn't fucking play the game, but was baited into doing so and got baited into playing Arcane Bomber. He quit during the kobold tree stuff.
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>>542679494
Some retard who found a personality gimmick in saying shit like "You are a good anon! Yes, very good!" and speaking in that tone only. Only thing he ever talked about was how much liked Valerie and how she was the best waifu, and kept comparing her to other "waifus", until anons dubbed him the "Waifu scholar". He seriously had no other topic of conversation at all, if he was around the thread was just full of his stupid ass ramblings about how Valerie is a good waifu, yes she is. The funniest part being when after fucking months of this dumb gimmick, he fucking admitted he hadn't actually even played Kingmaker, he started it when it came out and then stopped in like, early act 2 or something, if that, and never went back to it. The reason he never actually said anything about Valerie beyond just how good she was was because he had no idea what Valerie is like or does throughout the game, and him comparing the waifus in the game (and other games too) was just based entirely on hearsay.
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>>542679849
Terror is coming to Talabheim.
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>>542677475
I really need to stop being poor
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>>542679962
>he fucking admitted he hadn't actually even played Kingmaker
holy based
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>>542680092
Thats like 4 bucks for a cybernetic implant life sure is easy in the future
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Gameplay wise Valerie is barely serviceable even as a big block of AC and HP, even early game. Maybe even especially early game because if she trips over a spider web she's stuck all fight. I'm sure you can do something with her high CHA but I never bothered and always benched her
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>>542679962
>him comparing the waifus in the game (and other games too) was just based entirely on hearsay
This could describe 80% of this thread
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I remember that monkfag decided to email Sseth to see if he'll review Kingmaker and even got a reply. Turns out Mandalore reviewed it instead.
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>>542680431
Just install call of the wild and use her as a vindictive bastard
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>>542680431
19 CON btw
TSS BTW
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I just run call of the wild and run valerie as occultist silksworn 1 monk tank no I don't care about your canon
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>>542680431
>I'm sure you can do something with her high CHA
The number one go-to build for Valerie back then was always to make her go hard into Dazzling Display and all feats that relate to it.
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>>542680431
I haven't used her since my character is armored enough
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>>542680754
Call of the wild actually nerfs the monk dip
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>>542681076
It does but I just patch that out anyways there's nothing in monk that says you only get 1 ac per lvl so they can be faggots all they want
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I keep having wet dreams about breeding different owlcat girls, especially Kerismei.
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I would fuck areelu in all possible ways in every planes
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>>542680435
>This could describe 80% of this thread
It does now, but I am not joking when I say I think he has a large part of responsibility for why this general just degenerated into waifu talks more and more with time. Back then it wasn't that bad, people still talked about it, but it was a secondary topic.
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cringe
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>>542680431
the bench queen cant take barbarian ranks or paladin ranks. couldnt even make work with scaled fist ranks
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>>542681640
Eh I think most people have played the game and there's nothing left to discuss besides muh waifus!
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>>542679849
>Owclat consulting with GW about companion writing to be in line with their wishes and lore
>get to romances
>"Male elf companions can fuck the human female or gay human male in every sex position any time of day, even in the center of the Phoenix Court or Naggarond or in view of a forest spirit gathering in Athel Loren, we don't care. But if a female elf companion so much as smiles at a male human player character we will sue you into bankrupcy."
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>>542682328
I don't want an elf gf I want a vampire gf
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>>542682775
We sell food here, sir.
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>>542682775
Are vampires even a thing in 40k
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>>542683012
I don't think so
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>>542683012
Vampire adjacent, I think Sanguinus' (get it) gene seed had that defect.
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>>542683340
Ashartes don't count
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A female Sanguinus romance will be a thing in dark heresy.
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>>542683012
In 40k there are some blood drinkers and vampire adjacent factions but in Fantasy vampires are a major faction. Fantasy vamps are awesome too
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>>542680509
It's not Sseth's sort of game
He likes spreadsheet type games that he can break
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The Emperor's words. The Emperor's ink. The Emperor's signature.

The Emperor's coffee stains...

>>542673414
Firewarrior videogame exists, and you could also play as eldar in Eternal Crusade. Those are both you playing as a character.
Then there's also Gladius, Battlesector, Battlefleet Gothic, several Dawn of War games, the upcoming Mechanicus 2, and the upcoming Creative Assembly 40k game that all have xeons as a playable faction.
Then there's also spinoff like Blood N' Teef and Speedfreaks in which you are xenos.
Orks and Eldar are both playable in Cubicle7's ttrpg's as well.
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>>542683848
Rotes of War was an stretegy game where you played as Eldar in campaign
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>>542683785
He said he enjoyed it, "love it to bits" iirc was the direct quote. But you're right, not enough human trafficking and jewry.
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I'm new and still in chapter 1 but both Idira and Pasqual are so ass
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Examples of when you can get bitten for taking the polite, kind, safe type dialogues with people?
The only one that jumps out at me is Viconia dumping you
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>>542684272
>Idira is ass
Literally all you have to do is press one button and get psyker talents.
>Pascal is ass
He kinda is. Just treat him as a lockpicking/hacking rogue and a sniper that becomes more and more efficient at using plasma as the game goes on.
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My friend is going through his first playthrough of Rogue Trader and said after all the hype he heard about via osmosis he was shocked you beat a space marine so early in the game. Can most rogue traders actually kill a marine?
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>>542684272
Idira is one of the actual strongest companions man
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>yes I am a radical inquisitior and i am going to use the demon computer
>NOOO I DONT CARE IF YOUR WARRANT OF TRADE SAYS YOU CAN DO THAT ITS NOT RIGHT
replace Jimmy with a ork companion
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>>542684832
Most? Probably no
I am a Bladedancer Psyker though so in my mind it's not too unbelievable, probably
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>>542679849
I don't want to get hopeful over whats probably nothing.
But a Warhammer Fantasy crpg would actually be really good. As long as it isn't Age of Sigmar.
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>>542684832
Im the actual tabletop chaos marines are treated as end of campaign bosses. Buy since owlcat stat bloat the hell out of everything they are just end of act 1 bosses and random warp encounters.
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>>542685105
Fantasy is typically much more successful in vidya than Sigmar I can't imagine GW would risk that
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>>542684832
Keep in mind you're not just a rogue trader in the game, you have a retinue of hardasses. A Magos and a Sister of Battle are high tier baseline human combatants and the gear a rogue trader gets is top tier as well.
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>>542685328
Money and a strong retinue is just the normal rogue trader superpower
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>>542684832
Someone asks this every week.
Absolutely not. A marine will easily kill a rogue trader in a matter of seconds. You also fight certain deamons (that I won't spoil) who would also kill your entire retinue in a matter of seconds. The videogame is fantastical, in a setting that is already fantastical. Owlcat likes to fluff up the player character in all their games.

Rogue Traders have access to the highest quality gear and augmentics money can buy, including xenos tech and illegal tech, but at the end of the day they're still just humans with some fancy augments and nice gear. You should read about the process of becoming space marine, and what they're armed with as well, and you'll know the answer is that the fight wouldn't even last 30 seconds.
Same with some of the deamons we fight. It's just silly.
But that's ok. Owlcat likes silly, and silly is fun.
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>>542685784
Muhreenfag spotted.
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Space marines are just really extra buff dudes in power armor, they are nit thag special.
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>>542680092
Nothing like a good ol' fashioned whodunnit
investigated the crime scene, just about done talking up the locals, then need to confront my employers about some new and interesting information that's come to light...
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>>542685784
Nah Space Marines can sometimes get killed by normal infantry with anti-armor weapons. Rogue Traders, Inqusitors and Psykers can realiably kill marines with good gear and abilities
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>>542685784
Only if Emps is really looking out for you is it remotely feasible, which is implied in Icono/dogmatic runs.
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>>542686389
One thing I always felt stood out with the Shadowrun games is how much soul their UI has
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Kroot have killed muhreens and they don't even have armor
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Custodes are a bunch of frauds btw
What do they even do
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>>542687394
I keep thinking of them as janitors because of their names
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>>542686769
I'm happy to learn there's a developer commentary option, someday I will replay on the easiest setting (now I'm on Hard) with that on.
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I could 1v1 a marine but I'm kind of built different so you know.
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I don't know why marinefags want them to be literally invincible. Isn't it more interesting if your guys have to try?
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What happens to Jae in Cumrag?
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>>542687838
You're gonna have to get into the Guard for that kind of storytelling, Marines are just hype moments and aura.
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>>542687978
The dukari remove all her augments then laugh at her as she slowly dies in pain. You can fix her though.
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>>542686389
Another bit of evidence that I think they put a lot of care into conditional dialogue, I could have easily talked to this guy before finding out this tidbit I'm mentioning to him.
Not the most mind-blowing thing of course but I'm seeing it pretty frequently, and I think those little details are important and add up to an immersive experience.
Mostly also I've gone in with pretty low expectations, being a 10 year old game and all, but finding it's pretty alright. More reading than some would like I'm sure, but that's just fine by me.
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>>542687838
Marines are ultimate quality vs quantity. If you bring them down to the normie level their collective power level becomes sub-Tau. In most military campaigns marines operate in, they're usually supported by normie humans.
>>542687978
Dr Evil removes her augs and implants her with lung cancer the augs were supposed to treat in the first place.
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>>542687978
>>542688835
And also you find out about her being a Guard deserter ahead of schedule.
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>>542688613
>>542688835
>>542689007
I'm annoyed there's no mod to bring them all with me.
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>>542679849
now think on how much bullshit and handwaving would it take to cram a skaven companion in such a thing?
but realistically would a gotrek and felix Cameo be possible? I would like such a thing
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>>542689139
You can use the ToyBox option to hear what missing companions have to say so you don't have to replay the game.
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>>542689393
does it place them in commorragh? I thought only your active party got brought in.
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Bullying Jae until she cums!!!
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>>542683848
>>542683006
playing as a male
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>>542688835
They don't have to be normie level to not be OMG MY GUY IS THE STRONGEREST EVER AND HE'S SO COOL HIS COCK CAN PIERCE STEEL AND HE'S STRONGER THAN YOUR GUY TIMES INFINITY
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What if I go to Cumrag by myself and bring souvenirs
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>>542688762
That reactivity is important in a good crpg, it shows the developers cares about quality over quantity. The games are short, but resources weren't shirked from what is there.
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>>542689746
Is this some kind of onlyfans cosplayer? I see her posted almost every thread.
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>>542689686
No, it just reads the game data of what they'd say in conversations if they were present in the party. Not conversaions with them, but with other characters. They're not actually there.
>>542689952
So what level should they be on? Since GW can't hire decent writers anyway, the marine power level is officially all over the place. Think of it this way - your chance to physically subdue a US Navy SEAL is the same for a normie human to kill a marine. Is it impossible? No. But I bet you still wouldn't try to fistfight a Navy SEAL.
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>>542690410
I couldn't give less of a shit about official power level autism. I just hate the marinefags who wank them too hard and think their taste is boring.
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>>542687978
It's pretty neat
Haemonculous replaces her auto-lungs with crappy organic ones, and she robs him while he's looking away. If you are romancing her, she tries to throw a part but no one is in the mood. So she gets depressed and goes for a walk, whereupon three guys try to rape her so she shoots them
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>>542689139
Don't worry Yrlietbros, owlcat rewrote it so that it's not her fault
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>>542690295
it's the same autistic shitposter every time. it attaches it to some worthless shitpost that doesn't even make sense every thread like a bot. check the image md5. mental illness abounds
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>>542690647
>biochemically altered handpicked from childhood brainwashed drug fueled giants in power armor with centuries of training and fighting behind them should be able to get killed by Johnny the conscripted janitor in a 1v1
The point of space marines is that they're rare and tragic. Planets of billions of souls are intentionally put into hellish conditions just to breed hardy stock of whom the hardiest is picked before they even fully form as a person and put through an even more harrowing process just to ultimately have a 50% chance of dying of genetic incompatibility/loss of technology even if they pass all the trials. Then this level of suffering continues until you're dead, possibly for centuries, because things are really that bad and the Imperium needs you. Having somebody like that killed by a tougher than average normie in a fair 1v1 is just fucking stupid.
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>>542689139
>he didn't ge the perception check that says she's clearly been tortured into giving that "confession"
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The rogue trader has enough in terms of tech and relics that I think they're easily above a space marine
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>>542691921
Dialogue hidden behind skill checks is not canon
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>>542692129
>gw said no to a argenta romance
Huh?
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>>542691884
Are you missing the point on purpose?
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>>542692239
A single remark by the VA that "apparent GW said no or something idk"
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>>542692241
Maybe, because from what I understand your point is that the only reason people consider space marines to be so strong in the lore is that they jerk off to them.
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>>542691884
That's all just BL dogshit. None of that wank is in the codices
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>>542691143
You weren't kidding.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/khSlSwh8EuAAlKk_-fDVrQ/
It's all gibberish shitposting or responding to any high effort post with shitposting as if it was a bot designed to make the thread worse.
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>>542692129
when did CRPGs become dating sims first and tabletop games in a vidya format second
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>>542692619
Crpggs have always been fundamentally different than ttrpgs because they're so rigidly scripted
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GW hates its fan base. Why would you say no to argenta romance?
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>>542692719
>Don't let you romance Argenta
>Don't let you romance Amiri
There's a common factor against tomboys here and it's not GW
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Gw is the reason we got the worst rogue trader retinue of mostly dogmatic humans, only one unsactioned psyker and only 2 xenos (both eldar).
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why did you fail the CRPG genre anon?
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>>542692719
Why would a Sister of Battle be interested in romance? The amount of time they need to devote to prayer and training makes it unfeasible whether their rules proscribe celibacy or not.
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>>542692719
GW are blameless. This is 100% Owlshart being lazy and not finishing the Argenta romance until it was too late
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>>542692843
I will give owlcat the benefit of the doubt with amiri and seelah since they are icon characters, thats pretty much like wizards telling larian "no the player cant fuck elminster in bg3". Argenta on the other hand is a sister of battle OC and not a important lore character at all.
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>>542692958
Sex is good for morale
Anyway she clearly has a little thing going on with that one guy in Commorragh so she's not celibate by any means
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>>542692719
>don't let you romance seelah
>don't let you romance idira
>probably won't let you romance Epione or the expanse mixed chick
there's a common factor against black girls here and it's not GW
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>get deep into conversation with my friend
>Let me ask you about something else
>Let me ask you about something else
>Goodbye
very cool and normal way to talk, crpgs
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>>542693149
>Sex is good for morale
It's also a distraction and requires one to put their guard down, which isn't really compatible with a life of constant vigilance.
>Anyway she clearly has a little thing going on with that one guy in Commorragh
Maybe I am too autistic but I beat the game multiple times, always took Argenta to Act 3 and never saw what you're implying.
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It wasn’t GW or owlcat you retards
It was me
I did it all to take your waifu away from you
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>>542693372
J-Josh...?!
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I want to fuck her robo asshole
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>>542693349
Argenta believing in a fake comissar is the same as her fucking him to anon
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>>542693539
Maybe he is talking about Vigastes, which would just be retarded.
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>>542693539
>>542693349
Not him
Her special friend
Sgt Vigastes
She's devastated if he dies and so happy if you save him
And she's very worried that he might be mad at her
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>>542693484
>envoys saving throws
>Trained in Fortitude
>Expert in Reflex
>Expert in Will
Yep SEX
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>>542693484
>envoy corpate agent
HR lady sex.....
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>>542693484
>Robot
>Literally just look like a normal armor wearing girl

No thank
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>>542693484
Looking closely did she replace all of her arms with robot parts except for her fingers for some reason?
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>>542694673
trust the science, chud.
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>>542694673
She's all robot. She got those synth skin fingers for flipping papers since she was an office drone
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>>542694673
How about toes?
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>>542694853
Does she perform office boob job as well or something?
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>>542695114
yes
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>>542688762
I'm happy with how that turned out.
It has so far always felt that I can achieve whatever solution I set myself towards without much possibility of failure, which is okay and fine, at least so far, and I understand this was a particular kind of mission, a bit more about just following clues.
It was close in the sewers where I didn't want to fight but lacked the right ettiquettes that would get me out of it. But, earlier there was the body parts that could be examined, also giving a nonviolent end to that interaction.

And we made a new friend!
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>>542693896
No that's bullshit, there's no way she'd be into him and not me. Stop making shit up.
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>>542695395
immediately on returning, before I can even get myself paid for a job well done, I'm accosted by a man smelling like rotten cabbage and now I'm helping him out with his hallucinations, bleeding heart that I am...

Pleasantly surprised to see minor street characters have new things to say on returning.
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>>542693484
this but with the human man
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That explains it his game lack soul because he is worried about them being to "unrealistic" instead of adding balls to the wall fun stuff.
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>>542695940
pull it back in Callum buddy I'm just looking for a dealer for my stinky cabbage friend outside
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>>542692606
>high effort post
lol okay namefag
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>>542697078
>>542695940
I have mixed feelings about the portraits. I think in the end I lean towards liking how VTT they feel. Like they're the kinds of portraits you'd see in a tabletop game played online. It works for how bite sized these games are.
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>>542697078
I think the BBS thing is cute and fun.
>log in to see what people are saying about the 50k reward there is out for you and how much info is out there about who you are
some of the back and forth messages are funny. I like when they have edgelord signatures.
The web browser in JA3 was cute too, but pretty minor in the end. I did like how you could choose from some shipping options for orders. I've seen some /agdg/ games that have very good little OSes in them, but I don't remember their names at all.

>>542698147
VTT = Virtual TableTop then? I don't know anything about it, they seem pretty standard to me. Like, don't stand out as bad or mind-blowing. But I'm not sure what mind-blowing would even be, really. Certainly not 'hyper-realistic' or something.
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>>542693484
Nobody's commented on how she looks like Camellia.
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>>542699141
Because she doesn't
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>>542699141
Face blindness
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So what's going to be crpg of the year in 2026
Starfinder?
Solasta 2
Dark heresy?
Other!?????
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>>542699917
The surprise Laundry Files crpg that comes out
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>>542699013
users keep trying to have a poetry slam and the sysop keeps locking the threads, beautiful
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Will I miss out on items or quests if I choose not to ask people to tell me their backstories in WOTR? Fucking hell, idk if I can tolerate reading the detailed history of every jerkoff in Golarian.
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>>542700714
Just speed through it without reading?
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>>542700714
No.
You will miss out if you do not follow up on companion quests that are marked in your log.
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>>542700979
Kinda breaks immersion when I do that. As the top nigger of the Fifth Crusade, I do not have time to ask about the time you took a shit and ran out of toilet paper.

>>542701131
Ok, my only concern was that some quests could only activate if I ask John Pathfinder to tell me every detail about his life.

Also, is it worth giving Irabeth the 7.5K gold for recruiting soldiers?
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>>542702709
Yes, you want as many men as quickly as possible for the campaign.
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>>542702709
>Also, is it worth giving Irabeth the 7.5K gold for recruiting soldiers?
Yes, get a mage general as well if you want to make that garbage mini game tolerable.
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>>542703290
Specifically Setsuna Sly or Chief Oogabooga
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>>542703102
>>542703290
>>542703581
Thanks anons
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>>542702709
>is it worth giving Irabeth the 7.5K gold for recruiting soldiers?
Absolutely, also take the feats for more slots when possible. You should aim for never fighting a fair fight and having them flee as much as possible (you still get XP and loot). I think you can almost get to Drezen without a single actual fight.

I also don't think it's quite as terrible as people depict it here, at least at first while it's new. I had a bit of fun with it personally, felt that it broke up the gameplay in a nice little way.
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Arueshalae? Meatball.
Camellia? Brothel.
Wenduag? Aasimar cum.
Galfrey? Hag.
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>>542704676
It isn't terrible. But ranged/magic spam is even more broken than it is in heroes. So you are kind of in mop up mode the second you get marksmen. And if you don't, well then you get to stacks hitting each other for 15 turns.
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>do nok nok's quest
>now have goblins living in my capital

yeah fuck this im not doing his companion shit.
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>>542705828
What seems to be the problem?
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>>542689225
Typical Fantasy seem to take from Vermintide so you'll get
>Main character (Imperial, maybe Bretonnian if they're feeling frisky)
>Imperial
>Wizard (Also Imperial, main character can be this too but for the purposes of the party a wizard is very important and distinct)
>Elf (Wood or High)
>Dwarf (hates the elf)
>Human from somewhere that's not the Empire (Bretonnian, Kislev, Norscan, maybe even asian)
>Potentially something quirky (Lizard or, Sigmar protect us, a Tomb King)
The evil companions are where things get tricky but there are options. Vampires and Dark Elves are the easy choice, since they can and have buckled down and fought alongside sworn enemies in times of strife, but RT already did the Dark Elf companion so I'd bet on vampire. The more exotic evils like greenskins, beastmen, and skaven are a lot harder to justify because they're all incredibly retarded but I can easily see a party bullying a single skaven into carrying your bags. Why they'd want to is beyond me
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>>542706001
>redditbuddy
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>>542706109
Oh I forgot ogres. Orgres would be a lot easier to justify letting into a more morally dubious party than a fucking goathead
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>>542704676
Why do autobattle? Don't you lose more men than if you just manually do them?
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>>542704946
Wendog is Lann's cum
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>>542706145
Care to share with the class how you recognized something supposedly came from reddit so quick
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>>542706976
No, if you have a much stronger army it will say "They are trying to flee. Let them or fight?"
And you can just let them flee, and accept the XP (for the general, not your character) and any loot or artifacts, 0 casualties
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>>542707412
Really? I thought they'd reinforce the strongholds or something
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>>542707163
>Thanks Lann! You're so awesome, Lann!
t. Wenduag, while getting LANNED
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>>542707276
because redditbuddy would nonstop shill his shit until he got banned from /tg/
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>disloyal
>jealous
>cheats on you
Wendog or Y*****t?
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Jae pegging me!!!
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>>542710553
I really don't think she would do that
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>>542706001
This image is a comic strip by the artist Baalbuddy, known for creating fantasy-themed comics. The comic features two female goblin characters. The text in the comic strip suggests a humorous scenario where the goblins are reacting to someone they perceive as a religious zealot.
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>>542710683
yes she would
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>>542685275
>I can't imagine GW would risk that
GW doesn't give a shit, vidya are a tiny fraction of their business. They treat them like flyers
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Just punched a hole in my bathroom mirror because of Yrliet
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Jae would peg you but she wouldn't be into it.
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>>542708461
wendu cheats?
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>>542666040
>ywn have a Man of Iron in your retinue
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Nenio would peg you for research purposes
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WotR/RT hard mode challenge: Play another game
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>>542714274
>Play another game
We are all high af right now playing solasta.
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I would peg you and we'd both enjoy it
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>>542713439
Not really but she is definitely thinking about it.
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what's wrong with hags
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Kibbles and jae=do anal
Argenta,cassia idira and yirlet=dont do anal
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>>542716760
And jostica?
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>>542716886
barbed strapon
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Jae is still breeding age (just barley) you should be able to have kids with her.
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>>542717145
She specifically avoids that
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>>542717295
>says she will change for me
>won't settle down with me
Liar
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Jae character barley changes at all throughout the story, she just becomes slightly more honest.
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>>542717534
You gotta train her to operate in your shadow
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>>542717871
None of them change except Y*****t, and Idira quits drinking
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>>542696987
Josh Sawyer is such a hack
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If Josh Sawyer had whimsy he would be a good writer.
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>>542719657
If Josh Sawyer had whimsy only your companions would have fun in that world but not you
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Sawyer was right all along. Coomers hate him because he called them out for what they are; pathetic.
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Josh Sawyer
Yrliet
SAWYERLIET
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I couldn't see myself starting a family with any of the female romance options in any owlcat game, they all seem like they would all be bad mothers.
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>elantach you don't understand, touching the skin of a human would be like touching an animal
Yes and? What's wrong with booping the nose of an animal
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>>542721089
I thought it was funny how Kibber sent your first born away to be raised in the cult (oh no) but she's literally the head of the cult so she's raising her own kid anyway
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>>542719853
Never understood why anyone cares what this dipshit has to say. Not really much of a track record
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So when is Obsidian going to make a turn BASED rpg?
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>>542721493
He made new vegas and all the video essayist who normalfags there opinions from say it's one of the top 5 video games of all time.
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>>542721493
I see nothing but good games there.
>>542721616
They're bring TB to POE this year at some point so maybe they'll eventually make a POE3 TB.
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Turn based on what?
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>>542721493
we really needed a separate tab for each fallout dlc, drones?
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>>542722041
They won't. They're pretty attached to the pillars ruleset and unless they completely change how it works it's still dogshit for TB
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*i give a sad, knowing smile*
'there will never be a poe3. poe2 flopped and the setting is ass.'

1- tell me more about crpgs
2- it didn't flop, it eventually made a profit 6 years later. sawyer said so
3- kibbles hendrix cummies owlcat oooga booga
4- poe was good, it just didn't have bg3 money and production
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>>542723087
2
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Plowing jae while I make all my female mercs cheer me on and watch.
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MILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!!
Obsidian should make a solasta like.
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>>542723087
5. I want to talk about something else
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MILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!
Obsidian should make a underrail like.
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MILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!
Obsidian should make a iron tower like.
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Games are good if they make money and a lot of people play them but only if I like them.
If I don't like a game and it makes a lot of money popularity doesn't matter and also the game secretly flopped.
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>>542723087
>'there will never be a poe3. poe2 flopped and the setting is ass.'
5- [INT >9] Good.
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>>542719853
>oh romance is fine, just not a shallow masturbatory indulgence
That's a straw man. Romance in games is very rarely that way. He just isn't comfortable with it for his own reasons.
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MILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!
Obsidian should make a fallout rip off but fantasy.
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>>542723087
I must take my leave
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>>542724315
> just not a shallow masturbatory indulgence
modern CRPG ones are
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>>542725453
>modern CRPG ones are
Which ones?
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>>542725681
WOTR, RT, BG3
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>>542725928
That only describes arue in wotr, kibbles in rogue trader and shadowheart and astarion in bg3.
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>Obsidian, owlcat and larian non-stop
why dont you guys try playing avernum or dark envoy or literally anything else
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>>542724297
[Intelligence] So Sawyer, you are fighting the good fight with your voice.
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>>542724159
you post this every time some one says poe2 flopped. its like 1984 here and you can't say a truth crime
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>>542726462
Dark what?
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Psyker should have been a class not a origin.
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Isn't dark heresy coming out in less than a year? Shouldn't we have gotten more info on the game by now like classes and origins?
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>>542726462
I have avernum, geneforge, avadon, and dark envoy on my backlog
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>>542727041
Apparently this is the case for Dark Heresy
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>>542727273
We'll have an alpha and beta period where pople that bought the game from Owlkek early can play it and eill report everything + they will do more info drops
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>>542726658
Flop post desu
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>>542727693
I pre-ordered so I'll have access to the alpha and I'm deliberately going to tell you lies
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>>542727273
I think it was announced early just so it doesn't look like they abandoned crpgs for arpgs. Owlcat is scared shirtless of their playerbase thinking this. But Expanse might release before it
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>>542727273
>less than a year
It eill most likely be end of 2026 like RT. They don't wanna compete with RT DLCs. Since if 4th RT DLC comes in Septembrr/October they wanna give some room for people to finish it and not be burned out doing a 150 hour run then playing Dark Heresy another 90-100 hour game.
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>>542727636
If this is true im going to do the ministorum origin and pick psyker to be a nerdtank by pumping willpower and INT then getting all the shield and armor bonuses from their faith abilities on top of biomancy.
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playing necromancer's tale for the first time, cleared most of my journal but I can't find niko
any hint? I talked to the butler and he said he doesn't know
who do I ask?
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>>542728141
Article said 2026 release planned so either end of 2026 or early 2027. I doubt expanse will relase before it.
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Can I do freight line in act 2? I hear if you do it when you are dogmatic 2 you get some special results.
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>>542721764
new vegas is aggressively mid
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I can't take it anymore.
tfw no succubus gf.
tfw no fishwife gf.
tfw going insane
tfw have gone insane
qd ejnfr f! EEO! EKE WdPDWMEAS!"" DKEWE FKW WKF; XCCCCEMTVE
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>>542728427
Yeah you can do it in Act 2. But the final part of the DLC doesn't kick off until Act 4
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*shoots a bullet into your brain*
post in hell, owlslopper
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>>542726007
>kibbles in rogue trader
fag
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>>542728470
fthagn!
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>>542728273
Mum
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Bloodlines 2 will save this general
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>>542723501
Jae is your ship's Bonnie Blue at that point, take a ticket.
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>>542729735
Even if it ends up being amazing people are just going to tortanicpost about it
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Plowing Yrliet on Quetza Temer while I make all the other Aeldari watch
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>>542732562
They react pretty much like that after you plunge into her inner world
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>>542732616
Plowing Yrliet in her inner world then, while I make all the Ancestors watch
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>>542729735
>fps will save the crpg general
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>>542733261
what game?
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>>542723087
9. Today i will remind them
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>>542733261
Why are they trying so hard to make dragonborn a dnd staple?
Who gives a shit about dragonborn?
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>>542733827
I think they look cool, shame they attract scalies
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>>542724297
I second this option
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This game looks trash, anon. Like a shitty cashgrab mobile game but poorly made.
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Avernum flopped…
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>>542723087
Deadfire vs dos 2 dealt a fatal blow to rtwp. Since then rtwps retroactively added a turn based mode and started shifting to turn based combat. Except Obsidian who decided to take a crack at a Skyrim 2 for some reason.
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>>542734579
>flopped
they have 6 games man
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how do I test the potion in necromancer's tale?
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Intimidate the mushroom
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>>542728273
Just a tip I found useful.
At some stage you may find yourself looking high and low for a certain priest. It turns out that the priest in question is actually the bishop who hangs out in the cathedral, but the particular quest calls him by his last name, when everywhere else he's referred to by his first name.
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>>542735451
>Extremely simple dialogues
>No flavour text
>Can't even fuck the mushroom

Gay. Dropped
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What are some good blobbers besidesLegend of Grimrock? Preferably somewhat newer ones 2010+, not from 1990s?
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>542733819
This was fun but needed more content to charge $70. Perfectly fine $40 game. The eyeopener was seeing how much the average person absolutely hates having to play as a canonically unattractive person
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>want to kill argenta and ylriet in cummragg
>also want to see the end of their stories
decisions decisions...
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>>542741051
>want to kill argenta and yrliet
A daring synthesis
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Yrliet has a lot more remaining story than Argenta for what that's worth.
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>>542741190
my guy wouldn't let either of their transgressions pass but muh tism wants to see everything I can on my first go. I think I'm already losing out on marzipan since I punched him in the face and ruined his trial.
>>542741373
funny since that seems backwards. I guess the backstabbing bit gives her a little more content.
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>>542741450
Surprisingly you can still recruit Marzipan even though you spoiled his meme trial. He's pretty pragmatic about the situation
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>>542741885
maybe he can come along then. he was an enemy so his bullshit was expected and he's been properly humbled. guess it depends on our next meeting. these two tho...I guess I'll just have my character seethe a bit and see what happens. if their endgame stories are worthless they'll die in my "canon" run once all DLCs are released.
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Just finished the demo. It was pretty fun but I did encounter a few bugs. It turned out to not really be a crpg, but it has a story, choices, classes, leveling, good turn based gameplay, a few skill checks that do depend on stats, and persistent character development, so I'm not anal about genre definitions. Will probably pick it up when it comes out. This next fest is pretty devoid of crpg. The other game I'll snag from this batch of games is the new Disciples game, another good rpg-adjacent game.

>>542736684
bard's tale, for the king, and wizardry franchise are the big ones. They have some installments in the franchises that are recent. I've played a few indie ones as well including a few scifi ones but I'd start with the polished ones.
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>>542728470
most sane owlcat fan
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>>542741450
>muh tism wants to see everything I can on my first go
You should turn off jealousy in toybox so you can romance all the girlies without them getting mad at you. Their romances are a big part of their stories.
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>>542742407
You can get Yrliet whipped for being a backstabbing cunt. It's never brought up again after that thanks to peak writing from Owlcat. Neither is Argenta's little teeheeeeee shot.
Marazhai is honestly quite funny to have around, but if you don't romance either him or Yrliet those two usually fuck off together after your ending either to clown college or pirate ships. Giving the Yrliet's "I totally did not betray you" story an even bigger smell of bullshit.
Argenta's ending depends on how you talked to her.
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>>542744384
I've never gotten the clown college ending, is there some trick to it ?
Usually my yrliet stops being a bum and gets a real job and separately Marazhai becomes a pirate, but they're not together
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Official Commorragh party
>You
>Yrliet (Jimmy as backup)
>You're waifu (leave empty if Yrliet/Jimmy is your waifu)
>Argenta
>Idira
You won't be underpowered and you'll pick up a full party by the end
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>>542744242
already done but thanks. does cassia get any story outside of that one throne room meeting if you don't romance her? she's the only one I skipped.
>>542744384
>You can get Yrliet whipped for being a backstabbing cunt. It's never brought up again after that thanks to peak writing from Owlcat. Neither is Argenta's little teeheeeeee shot.
yeah that's why I wanted them blam'd here and now. guess it can wait til the next pass tho.
>Marazhai is honestly quite funny to have around, but if you don't romance either him or Yrliet those two usually fuck off together after your ending either to clown college or pirate ships. Giving the Yrliet's "I totally did not betray you" story an even bigger smell of bullshit.
I don't really have a problem with him now that I've disgraced him. we were enemies, it's normal for him to fight my people and he showed intelligence by never facing me 1v1 since he knew I'd stretch him out. ylriet on the other hand is an abject retard and betrayer.
>Argenta's ending depends on how you talked to her.
I guess we'll see what she gets up to. would still rather kill her off. you don't get to just kill the head of my dynasty with no repercussions.
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>>542745691
>does cassia get any story outside of that one throne room meeting if you don't romance her?
Yeah she does, there is quite a bit more to go with her.
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Yrliet? Rape correction after Cumrag.
Argenta? Rape correction after reveal.
Idira? Rape correction after warp episode.
Jae? Shot.
Kibbers.
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>>542746132
>Kibbers.
total love
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Argenta would be fine if you could teach her to count to twenty before she makes any major decisions.
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When should I play Lord of Nothing and Inevitable Excess? I *just* started Act 5 - had my talk with Iomedae, chose to tell her to fuck off and became a glorious angel anyway.

I already played Through the Ashes, but when is Lord of Nothing supposed to happen?
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>>542746281
Argenta would be fine if she took my dick. I'm willing to forgive a lot for some good pussy. Alas, here we are.
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>>542744789
Clown college is the hardest ending to get for them (it's also one of their worst bar death because their entire personalities get wiped as Harlequins).
You have to fail both their personal quests in specific ways, like Eklendyl dead but not Muaran, ritual fails, the Reaving Tempest gets executed etc. They're just two bums on your ship with no hope for the future and Nocturne comes to collect them one night.
>>542745691
You can keep degrading Marazhai by having him take it up the butt.
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>>542746294
>Lord of Nothing
right after Through the Ashes, it's a continuation of Through the Ashes. Warning though, imo it's not as good, still has its moments though.

>Inevitable Excess
never, it's another of their shit """roguelike""" DLCs. Soulless, unpleasant, and ugly.
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>>542745887
>there is quite a bit more to go with her.
is act 4 long? cummragg is going by pretty quickly, which is good since it's pretty gay overall.
>>542746696
>You can keep degrading Marazhai by having him take it up the butt.
wrong stretch but maybe I guess
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>>542746583
Honestly if Yrliet let me watch when Marzi rails her I'd be happy too. Jimmy can come take notes as well.
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it's time once again for me to run some shadows
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>>542746789
Act IV depends entirely on what you do and who you have with you. Most companions have a personal quest that you can do or not. There is Idira's, Jae's (don't), Cassia's, Marzi's etc.
The main plot is Quetza Temer, Calzone's stupid siege then hunting after Jimmy's boss.
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>>542747064
are there more side planets/quests to explore? I visited everywhere possible in act 2. also do the traders get updated stock? already got all their good shit by this point.
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I recently started playing BG for the first time.
Just met Neera and the whole thing being voiced felt so out of place.
Did no one stop for a second to think that maybe having a fully voiced cutscene was at odds with the rest of the game?
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>>542747327
it's called progress chud don't like it don't buy it :^)))
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>>542747193
You found all the colonies but you'll go to new planets and get new stock later.
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>>542747478
nice. thanks chief.
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>>542747327
Holy shit a full 30 seconds of voiced content before you can just move on with your life? what the FUCK beamdog
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What's the ideal ending for an evil CRPG run?
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>>542748176
Depends on the type of evil.
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>>542748134
Beamdog is a guilty of a number of different crimes. Here are the major ones.

1. The Enhanced Editions are essentially a collection of free mods that had existed for nearly twenty years. Beamdog gathered them all up, slapped "Enhanced Edition" on it and resold it as a new product. There's very very little in the Enhanced Editions that wasn't already out there, and most of it is stuff you don't want (like obnoxious character outlines).

2. The games didn't sell so well and the originals were still far outselling them, even twenty years after their release, so Beamdog had EVERY digital distributor stop selling the originals and ONLY sell the Enhanced Edition. If you want to buy a digital copy of the originals now, they're "bundled" into the Enhanced Edition. Now these scumbags can claim sales from people just wanting to buy the originals as their own.

3. The infamous 600+ bugs on launch. The game is still riddled with bugs (as even a perfunctory glance over their forums show) but the fact that it took nearly two years for them to get a game that had been working fine for 20 years to reach playability after launch is telling of their wild incompetence.

4. This is where we get to the ones that really piss people off. Beamdog couldn't just remaster the game, they had to fuck with the content too. New dialogue for existing NPCs like Jaheira, Viconia, Safana, Kivan, et cetera was written in to make the characters more progressive and leftist friendly. Beamdog shills will argue that "adding content isn't changing content XDDD" but it is when the new content changes the core personalities of the existing characters. This is in addition to adding a slew of their own LGBT (hitherto there were none in Baldur's Gate) NPCs, all flooded with OP attributes and magic items to encourage people to play them despite their cancer.

5. Siege of motherfucking Dragonspear.
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Noober
Minsc
Tiax
Melecamp the chicken
the kobolds Larry, Darryl, and Darryl (Bob Newhart reference)
le golden pantaloooons

*holds up spork* XD
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>I don't know if I can't trust you again, Yrliet.
>Nor I you.
wtf did I do? bitch didn't even ask about the craftworld piece, she instantly assumed it was me even knowing I had recently ascended.
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>>542693484
Are we sure that it's female?
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>>542749363
That's the most retarded think about it. It could have been solved with
>"Where did you get this trophy?"
>"No idea, I didn't even know the ship we're on existed two weeks ago, let alone the story of each of the millennia worth of trophies on it."
>"Oh."
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>>542747193
If you visited everything you do get some new planets but that's act V. I usually don't do everything in act II, but that's also cuz I love Commoragh.
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>>542750665
Tbh doesn't make a lick of difference to her, at that point she barely considers humans as separate entities. Only Aeldari are individuals.
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>>542750929
Yeah. It's still absolutely retarded of her.
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>>542748405
>1
Couldn't care less really

>2
That's bizarre since EE is a direct upgrade from the originals. Not looking into the matter, also doesn't bother me.

>3
>bugs on launch
doesn't bother me

>riddled with bugs
Haven't found a single one in my many years of playing

>4
I think the added content is fine, your leftist derangement syndrome is showing by your exaggerated tone.

>5
Was pretty good. If a person likes old IE content, it's simply more of it, and they did some pretty neat stuff stretching the engine past what it's been used for before in some cases.

Overall, I find your points unconvincing, and wouldn't be surprised if you are also >>542747327 just looking to be angry for some reason
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>>542751209
She's my pea brained Aeldari meow meow. I love how retarded they made both of them. Marazhai has the most oblivious goofy villain trap and his meme trial is just him getting busted. You can literally tell him "I have something to show you" and then break his nose when he comes closer. Yrliet decides to not say anything to you and trust a fucking Drukhari when he says that he has actual information on where her precious refugees are.
They 100% deserve each other. If they ever have kids those will come out drooling and count to potato.
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>>542748405
>pic
Safana actually was cringe shit in BG1 though, and Shar-Teel too but I don't remember if they changed anything about her. Anything for those two (and really many other BG1 characters, hence the popularity of NPC Project even though it's fanfic level writing) is an upgrade.

I disagree with them about Jaheira being a nagging wife type, but I also don't remember how she was portrayed in SoD.
Also, wild idea here. Just don't play SoD? It's worth playing at least once though.
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My confidence from how smooth the first mission went is rapidly disappearing. I don't even quite understand what we're doing here, Is0bel wants us to hold some dude hostage until he gives us his software? I had a nagging feeling when she was setting down details of a plan, each step depending on the previous, and each feeling a bit precarious.

Now she's hiding in a bathroom somewhere, waiting for us to deliver her a uniform, and comms between us have already broken down. I think this could be my first catastrophic shitstorm of a mission.
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>>542752616
Also for some reason I brought Duncan. Great in a fight, but the goal is to not have things go sideways here. I should've brought the weird drone guy who lives below me on the ship.
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>>542746732
>Implying that Through the Ashes was good
>At all
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>>542752907
Male elf x human female chads keeps winning
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>>542748405
glad to see this pasta is still around
reminder that swen existentially cucked beamdog from their raison d'être
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>>542753097
>reminder that swen existentially cucked beamdog from their raison d'être
well when you put it like that I'm honestly not sure which is worse
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>>542753089
>mongrel
>human
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>>542752956
I enjoyed it, therefore it is objectively good.
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Lord of nothing has better fights than the entirety of the base game
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>>542753097
>Larian at the peak of relevance sitting on BG3 as Bioware faces collapse
>Competitors forced to adopt turn-based, even patching it into games they haven't touched for years
>New games now citing Divinity as their inspiration
>Space game on the horizon
I kneel
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>muh low level sword and sorcery
gag me with a spoon
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>>542746732
>inevitable excess
this isn't the roguelike one, that's the pirate ship one, forgot its name.
imevitable excess is a short story dlc at max level, just before the final boss.
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>>542752616
Is0bel is kind of a fuckup.
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>>542755906
In a great way. Of course the mission has gone sideways. I love a good "fuck it we'll do it live" experience.
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>haemonculus can just kill you in cutscenes until you kneel
owlcat try not to humiliate their players for 5 minutes
challenge level: impossible
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>>542756371
it's just a little theft from the treasury :)
just have your lawful/evil character not care
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>>542756232
>telling Is0bel in an earpiece exactly what to repeat to someone who's stopped her in the VIP hotel area
>someone at the kiosk I'm using to talk into her ear starts hassling me to move along because a line is forming
>me as a player walk right into this kino trope
absolute cinema
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>>542756371
Take the knee for the superior Aeldari intellect anon. You'll be able to rip open his asshole and let demons burst out of it later
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>>542758118
Each of his arms is now inserting a finger into your tight asshole
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>>542758134
>Take the knee for the superior Aeldari intellect anon.
never.
>You'll be able to rip open his asshole and let demons burst out of it later
good.
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>>542758116
ok, now which of these works for the guy wanting me to move from the kiosk and for the hotel manager guy hassling Is0bel threatening to call security, because she *will* repeat what I say. Hmm...
I feel like threatening to break a nose could be unhinged enough from Is0bel to the manager in the VIP area to get him to back off, and this guy hassling me is probably a big nerdo decker. It could also immediately escalate things if the manager guy doesn't find Is0bel threatening, which is a strong possibility.
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>>542758439
I think that if you don't suck up to him your companions end up way way worse
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>>542733696
>>542733961
>>542734167
>>542735451
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>>542758709
I made it through the conversation without groveling or giving him yrliet and he still healed me and Abelard so I think I'm good there.
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>>542756371
Act 3 was done poorly.
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Well the guy at the kiosk wasn't a pushover like I assumed and did want to get physical, luckily I happened to make a good impression earlier on some people that I guess are his crew, good shit

All this and we still haven't identified the target, but we have the room where he should be.
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>>542730598
I was going to ask why is this so small but I see the original image is 13mb.
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>>542759468
>i must have sex with dogs to more effectively yell at people to farm harder!
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BG3 fans are going to be in for a shock when Larian releases their typical divinity slop
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>>542760048
>implying BG3 wasn't their stealth DOS3
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>>542760048
DOS/DOS2 is why they were approached for BG in the first place though?
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>>542759941
yeah and you guys wanna have sex with her!
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>>542760048
>BG3
>Not DOS3 already
>When it sold gangbusters
Lole. I can only imagine their new space game is going to be exactly like it and how it'd be directly compared to RT and DH. It's going to be so funny.
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>>542760562
I doubt they get to spend 10 years making their next game again
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>>542760679
They can just scale it down, I doubt they'll actually want to make something like BG3 every time moving forward.
Still mad about Divinity Fallen Swen, I wanted to smooch Malady.
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>>542760853
And that's the problem. People are going to expect BG3 again from them
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Just you and me, against the whole world.
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>>542754206
The rise of turn based and decline of rtwp to oblivion began with DOS 2
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Some of you are legitimately delusional. Divinity OS2 was already one the highest selling and highest reviewed (among both users and critics) crpg in history, only surpassed by Larian's other game that came after it. If they made another "divinity slop", it would simply be the third best and best selling crpg in history. You guys don't even realize what you say sometimes, you just hate for the sake of hating and say things that don't make logical sense. It's legitimately contrarianism brain rot.
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>>542761606
Second sentence already a lie lol
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>>542760048
They are making a space game. That can be like bg3.
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>space elf girlfriend will suck the pc off while mizora's va narrates it
going 3 for 3
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>>542761606
No arguments here.
>>542761486
Arguably with 1 since 2 is literally just 1 but better but 1 was liked enough that it got 2 funded in like 12 hours I believe.
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>>542762107
Only male space elves get to have sex
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Everything is clear to me now.
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>>542750929
>at that point she barely considers humans as separate entities
>implying she changes by the end of the game
lol
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Reminder that CamCam is a good singer
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>>542762116
DOS 2 went neck and neck with Deadfire. Both crowdfunded and bothg with strong enough fanbases. After release Deadfire got a turn based mode. Owlcat followed a siilar trajectory. Kangmaker got it, Wrath shipped with it(? correct me if I'm wrong) and rogue trader ditched rtwp entirely.
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Will crpgg ever escape the grip owlkitten has on their general
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>>542762727
If you romance her you are special to her anon. Just above a literal monkey
<:^)
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>>542763712
Not until another studio makes a big crpg
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>>542763802
You move to dog tier which fits her legion of simps.
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>>542763712
No. I am enjoying my anger.
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>>542764038
Ngl she'd make me bark if she asked. But I want a warm body in my bed by the end of the day so Jimmy it is.
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>befouled barrows
Yeah yeah it's very soulful but can book events give more than 300 xp please?
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>>542763897
Who's even left?
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>>542760048
>5e is too limiting! autists about to find out not that many people enjoy action points and cancer surfaces
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>>542764424
uhhh
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I did as you asked~
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>>542763712
Consider this: instead of posting that you could have played a different CRPG and posted about it
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BG1, Chapter 3. I'm a little lost. When I do the main quest and the companions' side ones, the enemies are pretty easy. The moment I wander off the beaten path even slightly, I get raped in 2 seconds. And now that I've completed the companion quests without a clue of how to progress further in the main quest, my only option is to wander off. AKA get raped in 2 seconds. Do I just savescum my way through until I acidentally bump into a story location or more people again? Or am I supposed to grind a lot of experience (my party just starts hitting level 3) before doing anything else?
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>>542763712
Larian has their own general, otherwise that discussion would also dominate. It's only natural for the two companies who actually put out good games have all the discussion. Nobody wants to talk about avowed or veilguard because there's not much to talk about. But people actually are still playing and enjoying owlcat games on a larger scale, so of course there's more discussion.

Necromancer's Tale was the hot topic for a week or two because that was actually pretty good.

it will not change until another good game comes out. Which maybe the starfinder one will be, maybe the bloodlines one will be, there are several indie projects coming out that could be good, who knows.
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>>542766050
Do the companions' ones whenever, but be sure to do them if they start poking at you because they'll leave if you said you'd help them and don't for long enough (you have like weeks though, except Kivan is fucked and it's really hard to help him in time if you meet him too early)
Chapter 3 is after the Nashkel mines right? I don't see how you'd handle the mine but get slaughtered off the beaten path honestly, something's odd about that.
The letters you found in the mines should tell you what to do. I don't know how you'd miss the big story beats unless you're just skipping all reading, in which case you're a dumb retard who doesn't deserve help.
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"Crusraiders" would make a pretty good WoW guild name.
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>>542607779
what makes bloodlines a crpg but not deus ex
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>>542766050
You cleared the mine and are just hitting level 3? Most people go there level 4, even 5, after doing some stuff around Beregost and the Friendly Arm and all that. The gnoll keep to the west is good. I'm guess you're playing on a really easy difficulty and just rushed the Nashkel mine. But if you're on really easy I'm not sure how you'd be getting raped in 2 seconds. Something doesn't add up.
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>>542767608
arbitrary consensus
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>>542767608
vibe check, same as how Morrowind is a CRPG and Oblivion isn't
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>>542767608
you play as your own character
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>>542767608
An autist tweaking the OP
The only good deus ex game was made for computers
It went to shit when they started accounting for consoles
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>>542767843
then why is disco elysium up there
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Funny how nobody seems to give a single fuck about Cop McNig
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>>542768101
it shouldn't be if we're honest with ourselves
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>>542768398
should have been a cute girl
we'd either get waifuposting or YJKposting
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>>542768101
The various Harrys you can play are very different. Also similarity to Planescape, plus a fuck-ton of skill checks.
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>>542759468
This is weird fanart. It doesn't add anything to the character or present her in a different way. Its just like someone copied the portrait from the game itself.

The game portrait is better.
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>>542767435
You can replace your super low res portrait now, an anon upscaled it for you >>542522834
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Oh FFS I just looked it up and one of the best gloves in the game is in Befouled Barrows, all you have to do is not be a goodfag.
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>>542769380
Pretty clear you guys arent artists
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>>542769201
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>>542766050
Well, it is hard to say without knowing how you are being raped.
Does your fighter have good armor? Are you utilizing the fact that it is a real time game that is supposed to be played more like Starcraft than World of Warcraft? i.e. you don't need to just stand there and die.
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