TBC waiting roomDev Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/mists-of-pandaria-classic-development-notes-updated-july-1/2097329Mega PvE realmshttps://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/news/realms-could-consolidate-into-one-pve-mega-server-per-region-mists-of-pandaria-378485MoP:Introhttps://www.wowhead.com/mop-classicAddonshttps://overgear.com/guides/mists-of-pandaria-classic/top-addons-for-mop/Class Tier Listhttps://www.zockify.com/mop/tier-list/MoP Leveling Gear Guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKTmp_gs1ALegendary Item Guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeQJ269-J5cProfession Guidehttps://www.wow-professions.com/mopVanilla:Phase guidehttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/fresh-servers-roadmap-phasesAddonshttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/the-best-addons-for-wow-classic-fresh-351334DPS tier listhttps://www.wowhead.com/tbc/guide/dps-rankings-tier-list-pve-burning-crusade-classic-wowAn Qiraji Release and Overviewhttps://www.wowhead.com/classic/guide/temple-ahnqiraj-aq40-overview-classic-wowThe Burning Crusade Prep Guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyGBABkKu0U
MoP remix hurted MoPssic
w-we're so *coughs blood* f-fucking back..
>Asmon is reacting to a video about Blizzard being radio silent on Classic+I don't get this narrative. The SoD team has been quite transparent about the fact that they're working on Classic+ and that SoD was the test run for it. Just because it hasn't been officially announced yet doesn't mean it's not happening.
Fresh when?
>4 warcraft generals on /vg/
I'm just waiting for the pre-patch so I can make a sexy blue goat lady mage to main for TBC
nillers will call you retoilet but theyll never call you a liar
Will there be a TBC era?
>>542818958not for long, I give it a few hours until this one falls off again
AND I'M FREEFREE FALLIN'
*sobs with a shaky voice* ma'am, I'm not s-suicidal, can you please loosen these cuffs? ouchie"loosen these cuffs please ouchieee nooo not the anti suicide vest!"*heavy breathing* i'd wreck you if i *heavy breathing* get the upper *heavy breathing* upper hand *heavy breathing* just give me *heavy breathing* give me a few minutes to *heavy breathing* catch my breath first *heavy breathing*
>>542807045i just want to know why they closed sod so far out from anything. i guess they wanted people to off ramp to mop?
>>542827479SoD is there, up and runningwhat's wrong? Can't play a game for the fun of it? you need a raid every 2 months? I thought not having to do a new raid replacing everything you earned was le good
>>542827479they didn't close SoD. people just stopped playing when there was no more carrot on the stick.
>>542827746>>542827884it is? wtf
>queue as dps/healer for leveling dungeons>might take 5 minutes even as a healerShould I just make a tank?
>playing on a fresh character>guy in full hierlooms runs by>as soon as I try to fight a mob he turns back and attacks me>'XXX has earned the achievement [An Honorable Kill]'>fuck.jpg>res and run back to try and catch him before he moves on>it's an affliction mirror match, both of us using our entire kit but I get some good fears in>actually get him to ~15% hp and I die, I soulstone but he edges me out with drain life anyway>close the game in shameit's over
>>542840838if you want fast queues, then yes. or just quest while you're in queue, it's about the same speed dungeons are anyway.
/wowcg/ is no longer allowed to exist anymore, migrate. >>542819698>>542819698>>542819698
>try to get my cuckstones from invasion>every crystal has multiboxing troons hogging the whole thinggod please electrocute every mage user. and also send 100 earthquakes to indonesia
>>542805237tsmt
Will I get free invites as a blue berry shaman in tbc? Anyone played one before to share their experience?
>>542869698yespeople will want your big blue dick already while levelingeveryone and their dog wants shamans in tbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNc-QTpL4iY let's show our boy some love
>>542823047there will be a filtering crusade era, but it will be grim. billers and bybooms will boom themselves off the server around ssc/tk as usual, but the population decline will stagnate until they unlock everything with sunwell.
>>542869698for sure
>>542804702I'm looking to return for some BC action, can someone hook me up with some gold, EU realm Alliance side
I own /wowcg/https://youtube.com/shorts/vVKGWdRb6Hg?si=06_WMifEGwfu88-c
>>542825578Lmfao rofl what a complete cuckold
>>542825578 #*ugh sorry I'm not answering any medical questions or signing a medical consent form, you will have to take me to a proper hospital if anything goes wrong! ugh ok fine fine! I'll put on the green vest if that's the case! I'm just not receiving any """medical treatment""" at the county jail is all!*https://files.catbox.moe/v2b1gm.mp4*y-yes Seth right away bro we will loosen those cuffs as soon as you have a seat we will apply 2 sets because you are a rather large bull*https://files.catbox.moe/39lbmf.mp4
>1 filtered fat slob postalready seething at the facts of him being owned 14 times in a row as the easiest pvp class in all of vanilla wow lmfaooooooooooooo
The new alex arc is already over.Alex no longer speaks
>>542926309grimlic speaks for /wowcg/ now
>>542927142>biggest nigger in the general speaks for wowcg lore accurate
>turning your trippy off to pretend to be someone else but not realizing that people can filter your IP anywaythis fat slob is so retarded holy shit lmfao
>>542804702>posted one day ago>35 postsgrim.
>>542844441not posting there but i like this image
What's the best way to trade gold from nightslayer to dreamscythe without getting scammed?
>the 3 second rez delay after critting somebody for 120ka classic
>>542844441Finally admitting the classic to retail pipeline was real all along
>>542959510we fucking kneel....we thought we did ;_;
>>542968970...and we did. 2019 was magical. the problem is nobody considered where it would go after that.
SCHIZOHPRENIA
>>542972030boomer cope2019 was bad it caused 2020
>>542974892classic wow caused covid?
>>542959510I *buys gold* LOVE *gets boosted to 60* CLASSIC *raidlogs* WOW
>>542972030yeathe first few months was worth the shitshow
I absolutely hate the shift to 25 man raids with SoD and basically all recent private servers. 40 man raids are one of the most fun parts of vanilla. I really hope they'll come back for Classic+ but I suspect they probably won't.
>>54298201325 man raids are 1000 times better than 40 man raids.
first time I'm leveling a warlock. I've heard all the things about how they are monster levelers, however I'm finding it very annoying. I'm currently level 23 and I can barely take on more than one mob at a time. my voidwalker can never hold aggro and its essentially useless. I heard the succubus is strong so I started using her but again I'm just tanking each mob which brings me down to 30-40% hp each time. I'm failing to see how warlock is one of the better levelers
>>542990768use your fear bro. fear + dots, enemy is dead before it reaches you. life tap between kills, then drain life your feared + dotted mob, and you have zero downtime. if you get good at that you can juggle multiple enemies at once, can also have your voidwalker tank one, they shouldn't lose aggro if you just use dots. but even just fear+dots with life tap+life drain on single enemies is very efficient if you don't want to juggle.
volumes
What's the best way to trade my Nightslayer gold for Dreamscythe gold without getting scammed?
>>542990768you juggle them with fear, and drain life once you get r3+. you'll always be low hp maintaining high mana and rolling through mobs but they are great levelers
>>543009425so thats why warlocks are such free kills while levelingwas wondering why they are always low health
Anyone have a link to RXP for Anniversary servers?
how active are the hardcore servers nowadays
https://youtu.be/WMzyMK07mo0You've heard of crybooms... but have you heard of cryzooms?
>the polish spammer moved back to the retoilet threadits over
uhhh guys the raid is in 2 hours where are all the signups?
>>542804702Looking for a racist guild on Spineshatter Alliance
>>543062687sanest /wowcg/ poster
>>543057280we are waiting for prepatch
>- Gibberish text.World of Warcraft classicHahahhaha you're still fucking here holy SHITactually permanent thread uptime, along with all that other retarded shit from that greentextWorld of Warcraft classic Pandaria
blud status?
>Wave bye-bye /wowcg/!>Bye-bye!
>>543090114/wowcg/, whatever happened there
>>542959201we already knew anyone playing after ulduar was a retail player. there is no pipeline
>>542804702I miss SoD
>>543099204yeah because Ulduar filtered all the boomers who can't do more than one basic mechanic
ahh, vanilla wow. just as I remembered it. nothing better than seeing all the lovely people looking for groups and dungeons in the LFG channel!
When will prepatch be?
>>543102389The funny part is if an actual human posts a non-lfg related service spam in the lfg channel they will be mass reported and muted by the bots
>>543101378the mode so fun they had to add a rune vendor to the starting zone, and it still died
>>543113614are you retarded?it died because they announced they weren't gonna continue itit was thriving before that annoucementyou fucking niggerblizzard killed the mode in favor of MoP (and it still flopped because mop is mid)
>>543113994it clearly wasn't good enough for people to play without there being a carrot dangled on a stick in front of them anymore. people still play static vanilla, and beg for static tbc and static wrath servers. and yet, sod is completely dead. it's not offline. you can still log in and play it. but the treadmill isn't running anymore, so people lost interest. and it wasn't a gradual loss of interest, either. it was pretty much immediate. nobody wants to just play sod for the fun of it, only if there's some ladder they can climb.
>>543113994>WAAAAH SOD WAS GOOD! SOD WAS GOOD!you turd world monkeys are the reason why we'll never get an actual classic+
I can't wait to play as a draenei!
>>543115940Blizzard's startegy has been to sell fotm, and that's what they are getting. Once the paid streamers leave everyone else follows them, until next update when streamers get paid again. TBC is going to be huge for a month or two, then dead again.
I love niller and you cant ban me again for this fact pussies
>>543125771this is TBC general now, sis.
>>543115940I can guarantee you, all the people playing anniversary vanilla would drop the thing right now if you told them TBC is not coming.
>>543129973arent tbc chads just waiting for the boost to drop so they dont waste 100 hours leveling?
>>543130479I wouldn't know, I'm not planning on playing TBC again (again)
>>543130614what happened sis?
whats there to look forward to for TBC>people going in with literally 50k gold>people who played mage/warrior in vanilla already have their hunter/warlocks ready to switch mains for meter purposes>pvp is rogue/warrior/rdruid on repeatwhats the appeal? The "journey" doesn't feel real when people are going into TBC with full r13, 50k gold, and 3 maxxed/boosted alts
>>543136701It will see major falloff after p1 heroics/kara just like the first time. And then there will be literally nothing for who knows how long. Anyone hyped about tbc fell for it.
>>542804702ally shaman waiting room
>>543136701Who cares about this any of this degenerate bullshit? Hows that to stop me from leveling through Outland, running heroics and then doing a few Karazhan runs to rub my itch and be done with it anyway? Fuck do I care if a bunch of nolife degenerates are sitting on thousands of fake currency coins and getting a measly advantage on consumables over me that make barely difference for heroics and tier4 content.Like I can stop real life degenerate rich faggots enter the next year with more money than I have. I do the best I can and have fun while at it. Get your head out of your asshole and dont treat this piece of shit like it matters so much to your own gameplay.
>>543141061It will effect you when your natty gimp char does not get invited to groupsR14 master race gatekeeperYour only option is doing ramps or bf with 58 boosters
>4 days ago>under 100 posts
>>543142961But we both know that is not going to happen? You've turned your cynic way to look at this thing to the absolute maximum. There are a ton of degenerates, there have been since private servers, but they stick to their own. You never see them interact outside of their guilds and discords.There were tons of overfed and accounts full ot bought gold 5 years ago in TBC classic too, but always still enough people to run dungeons and at least Kara without any guild attachments. Play your game and let the nolifers play theirs.
I heard Emiru's parasocial sexual assaulter was in FangslyWill Blizzard take action?
>name dropping people like we're just supposed to know who they are
>1 post per hour
>>543122629Only poster in this thread with a brain.
>>543136701I will play my ret paladin as a main this time and I will have fun.
>>543170376Thats me
What is Neetseason thinking right about now?
>>543129973well yeah, because people who want a static vanilla experience are on era already. now era isn't booming by any means, but it's still significantly more active than SoD in all regards.
>>543171220What's wrong with sod? why is it that SoD has much less activity than era?
>>543171928sod was just a grift that literally lost half its playerbase in one reset after they announced it wasnt getting anymore content
>>543173160But what makes it different from era? Era is the same content that vanilla has been for 20 years while SoD has that new naxx mode and a whole Scarlet raid
>>543173351they just added a bunch of abilities from later expansions for every class
>>543173847Okay? Once again, what separates it from era being both in stasis?
>>543171094>boy I sure do love making a full time salary from making 1 runescape video per month
>>543174037The answer you want but he doesn't want to give is one has GDKP and the other doesn't.
Vanilla has sovl, SoD is sovlless slop.
>>543181062and sovl means...?
>>543189880everyone speedrunning to 60 to farm preraid bis and then quitting after the 2nd molten core
how long does 1-60 take without boosting
Trying to pick a main for TBC, why are all of the one off classes the ones most fun to play but the most stackable, powerful classes are all unfun miserable piles of shit?
>>543191387this but unironically
*ahem*
>>543202564*thread pauses for 2 hours to give grimlic the floor*aura
>pug raider starts yelling at kid on mic>can hear kid crying in the background during fightpeak.
my gnome mage gf hasnt logged in since lvl 57
facts
>>543229217why do people demand you to have every world buff and consumable when the content isn't that hard to begin with?
Hello fronds, neutral visitor here. What is the current state of the anniversary realms? I had to stop playing because of work, and I'm itching to come back but it seems like the classic hype has simmered down drastically in the last few months. I
>>543234862Grim, wait for TBC when the streamers bring people back.
>>543229217wtf is that random yellow dot
i dont wanna live in a world without fresh
>>543229374Time and yes, ease.
>>543247139imagine a freshless world
>>543024091pretty active, there are dungeon groups forming super often and there's a decent number of guilds to pick between for raiding, you should play on horde if you want a more soulful relaxed experience and alliance if you want play babymode with paladins trivialising the game
>>543174037what are you asking? why people play classic era but don't play sod?
>>543129973that is absolutely not true, plenty of people are playing on anni because they wanted fresh and a lot of the ones who are still around now during phase six are happy to play on eraif blizzard auto clones peoples characters to era instead of forcing you to choose or pay for a clone then you will see a lot more people continuing to play on era
>>543136701they will be releasing fresh servers alongside tbc launch like they did with wrath.
>>543274126People will migrate to era because that's where gdkps aren't banned ;)
*blocks your path*
>>54282557814 in a row Loooooooooooooool
>tfw tbc soon sorry lil 58 boostie in green gear, but these hellfire mob tags are MINE. You wait until your bull is finished with quests in the area. If you tag one of MY mobs you will be put down
>2 filtered fat slob postsoh yeah he mad lol >>542825578
>>543278669aura...
>>543280579holy based
and 2 more in a row in such a short time spanholy FUCK you're FUMING
what should I buy now to sell for prepatch/tbc
>>543283798gold
>>543283798ores for prospecting and jewelcrafting
is everyone here really a 30+ year old loser with no gf/wife?
If I want to play with egirls primarily which MoP US server do I play on? srs.
>>543292546first time i've entered this general and i see this posti... i'm home :')
WotLK classic+ 2 and Cata classic+ 2 and even MoP classic 2 will change everything and will be different.
>third worlders trying to feed their village selling gold arent ruining wow clas-
>>543280579damn what a bad ass... how many times did you walk a straight line to kill an NPC in AV for this crowning achievement?
>>543292546I'm 26
Why did alex assault emiru at twitchcon?
>staysafe getting like 300k average views per videoIf only you knew just how much fucking money he is making right now. Alex would need to suck 300k BBC's to catch up at this rate
>>543307453idk but i think it's funny that Asmongold is using it as ammunition against Twitch
>>543307453alex is not taller than emiru
>>543136701>pvp is rogue/warrior/rdruid on repeatWhat do you mean you don't like playing warlock/priest and humping a pillar for 45 minutes with no dampening?
>>543229217>Try to pug in 2025>Immediately swamped with latam subhumans>????>Behavior warning for communicating in lfg and not discord >Disband first wipeCool
>>543229374bolumes!
banillers be like, "vanilla raids are so easy, just make a sign up on discord" then never do it themselves
>retoilet jeet is still mindbroken by 'nillaIt's getting kind of sad honestly
>>543314658>retoilet out of nowhereholy irony
doing some heckin tbc prepping on my soon to be arms warrior main, leveling this guy fresh from 1-60 on dreamscythe. so far it's been very comfy, lots of mining nodes just for me to level up mining/smithing, and light feathers seem to still sell for a mint so no shortage of gold. managed to get 2 different DM groups together, one during peak hours which formed almost instantly and the other during off peak which only took around 10 minutes to find a healer (i've heard finding a healer is a bitch)looking forward to more levels!
>FRESH>no bots>no brownsthe only thing that can save classic
>>543293248>norwood 4>girlanon...
>characters copy over (NOT fresh)>bots>brownsthe only thing that classic will get
>>543292546no
do u guys think they will do a real classic+
>>543348373Probably. But based on everything we've seen from modern Blizzard, there's about a 5% chance it doest suck complete ass.
>>543348373it seems really dumb not to do anything and im sure sod was very low expenses
Why did SoD get a stealth update about a week ago on the PTR?
>>543348373I hope not, as well with trannyforged serversThe game is niller and tbc, suck it up zoomies
pure vanilla is boring :l
Need some recommendation for laptop to raid in tbc, what would be a good cheap option?
>>543361782do not get a laptop, everI've owned two laptops and two PC'slaptops have never lasted, their performance has always been shit, and they've been more of an office tool rather than a gaming setupdo NOT get a laptop. build your own pc.
pure vanilla > turtle > sodi think classic+ will be better than sod at the minimum
>>543361867sod > vanilla > turtle
>>543361782Gaming on a memetop, so you can game in the park while the local homeless maniac twists your nipples
>>543361602It's fun once in a while
>>543139884Do you think they will release boosters for draenei shaman? I don't want to be left behind my guild, fuck
vanilla without world buffs > everything else
>>543369072That's tbc and that's why it's good
>>543369072We had that, it was called SoM and it died instantly.
>>543364631this is the real problem. everyones played too much vanilla over the last decade
i dont like tbc because i dont like stinky outlands
>>543371276>everyones played too much vanillaNo, not everyone. Just the junkies that can't move on with their lives that have to give meaning to their lives through their parses/speedruns. It sucks because they're the ones ruining the game for everyone else.
>>543371548they certainly dont help the situation but idk its been a long time for 1 game
the biggest thing anni proved was that both free r14 and boons were a mistakeif you make it too easy it becomes expected
>>543373482No, the biggest thing anni proved was that mega servers are a fucking disaster and is impossible to play on unless they 1) increase layers to the point where there is enough trade material around to where botters can't control nodes, 2) implement personal nodes, 3) do away completely with consumable stacking.Option 3 makes the most fucking sense but even then, botters will just camp all mountain silver sage and plaguebloom nodes.
>>543373482there's a reason you get bored much quicker if you just GM command all the items you want in your bags. there's no reward without the struggle
>>543373684i'd be interested in trying personal nodes at least
>>543375270Here's what happens.>Botters run hundreds of bots>Consumable prices crashes hard as supply far exceeds demandOR>Botters corner the market on whatever isn't considered a personal nodeSo stuff like elemental water, fire, earth. I don't think there's anything else.TBQH, it's not that hard for Blizzard to absolutely make botting/thirdies quit out of frustration. As long as they implement anti-boost mechanics like they did in SoM and leave GDKPs banned, it more or less solves all of the issues people currently have with raiding Naxx (it's too fucking expensive).
the only things anni proved were that>'nillers are so desperate to cheat they'd rather play on bot infested servers>blizzard are incapable or unwilling to enforce their own rules
>>543375705yea, they could also just ban bots
>>543376331They will never do that. It makes 0 sense from business stand point. What makes more sense is for them to add the token so botters can use stolen credit cards to pay for 1 month of sub so that they can then use wow tokens for even more revenue. This is exactly what they're going to do with anni TBC.
>>543376548I don't think blizzard doesn't ban bots because they care so much about the extra sub revenue, I think it's more like they just don't give a shit enough about their product to invest more resources into combating the botting problem
>>543377034Por que no los dos? But really, if you handed Blizzard a method that removes all bots with 100% accuracy, do you think they would press it?
Permaban gold buyers instead of a two week suspension and the botting will go away
>>543348373they already did and youll still be here in 20 years asking for when the "real" one is coming
>>543376058>'nillers are so desperate to cheat they'd rather play on bot infested servers
when is the TBC pre-patch
Last name Cryboom, first name NillerLike a raid wipe, boy, my anger gets much realer.
>>543376058blizzard makes too much money off the bot ban waves for them to want to actually solve the botting problem
Any news of the Throne of Thunder? PTR soon?What about classic+?Legion remix launched 2 weeks ago, ToT shouldn't steal its thunder anymore.
>>543379554its pretty funny how people think blizzard would ever prioritize the game over making money which is what lead to the demand for classic vanilla in the first place. then they expect things to suddenly change there too lmfao
only one thing can save annithats rightunbanning gdkp
>>543380816It's more funny how all the people complaining about it keep paying monthly like they have no will of their own. They can't understand that this is the game, nobody wants to waste their time leveling or farming, bots and gold sellers help with that.
>>543381904I already moved back to era. Anniversary is just worse in every way except getting buffs. And it will inevitably boom again during phase 2 tbc.
>>543382256addicts do be like that. id post the kungen frog pic but i think we've all seen it
>>543375705just make everyone self found and change it to be account wide so its like ironman from runescape and we can just move on with our lives instead of caring for a videogame "economy" that no one actually enjoys
good morning failed male
Could you define what Classic+ needs to be?I've seen people say they want it, but none of them properly define what they want.Like lets say 5 points what Classic+ would add or change to regular WoW Classic?
>>542975886Retard bait anon.
>>542990768Drain tank at lvl 24 anon.
>>543101378Fag
>>543113994>tHrIViNg!!!!!!!kek
>>543274126Anniversary isn't fresh anymore.Fresh when?
>>543274291We can only hope. They'll fuck it up and allow transfers after a few months but the first few months will be kino.
>>543292546Yes anon. Just like you
>>543388198Blizzard should just make permanently fresh servers
How did classic WoW lose this hard to retail and private servers?
>>543392529>meme streamer mode>streamers leave>mode diespottery
>look up wowhead page for binding of the windseeker>see this comment saying it was going to be needed to kill ragnaros somehow because nobody had killed him yetvgh... kino...
>>543392673>all the streamers and zombies leave to the fotm of osrs>get bored>back to WoW but they know they'll get bored too>make an even bigger mememode for clickssays a lot about the absolute state of classic
>>543396297what exactly is the appeal of grifting osrs at this point when its a corpse too?
>>543397298Believe it or not, OSRS has more junkies and addicts than vanilla does. OSRS is vanilla but 10 years down the line.
>>543397298osrs devs inject content like what blizzard did to SoDosrs junkies enjoy that because they're used to it, while nillers for some reason hate that idea despite them asking for classic+ for the last 4 years
>>543397404>>543397504thats crazy. i played rs back in 2001-2006 but once you have played better games there is really no going back
>>543398538It just dawned on me why there are more druggies/addicts playing OSRS than vanilla. More of them could afford the $5 membership and you could run runescape on a toaster.
>>543398695much easier to play multiple characters at once too without any 3rd party software
>>543304514Me too, let's have sex and go on dates (in World of Warcraft: Mists of Panda Classic haha)...
>>543408116Sorry but I only play World of Warcraft Classic 20th Anniversary Edition Hardcore
>>543385294Giga basedTotal chinkmanchao gdkp goldbuyer botter death
>>543410153I for one will be playing on the FRESH TBC server
i love how people bring up osrs as a model for classic+ when in reality your average niller couldnt even get quest cape todayimagine geriatric wow crybooms doing inferno/coliseum
Hi, im playing classic for the first time as a warrior, what are some of the more sus quests/areas? I'm a night elf. I play on hardcore but not ultra or whatever that new thing is, right now I'm level 12 or so. I haven't had too much trouble yet but things seem to get more dangerous over time so I thought I'd ask.
The faustian spirit and world of warcraft hardcore
>>543423008nothing to worry about just take it slow
>>543422652not every osrs player clears of even wants to clear inferno, you can just make content for different types of playersI think the main thing that people want from osrs is the polling system
this shit so good
>>543424312look all im saying is that osrs has gotten (much) harder than it was at releasemeanwhile wow players got filtered (and will get filtered again) by t5
>>543386351There is no plan for Classic Plus, there's no working model for Classic Plus, saying "do what runescape does" isn't a concrete solution.People act like there's a big red button that says "Make Classic Plus Happen" in the blizzhq that they just refuse to press.Some people will put forth ideas, but they don't realize that they're a 1% niche of the playerbase that wants something the rest hate, some of them want retail but they don't even know it, some just want a dewoked version of retail.
>>543427397but have you seen the gameplay lmaoomg look at me flick my prayer and then click on a shark, then hope for dicerolls as I click on the enemy again and that's the highlight of RS gameplay, the bad part is clicking on a rooftop or tree for 3000 hours holy KWAB
>>543427397the players who get "filtered" by the harder osrs content just keep playing and doing different things, I think you're too narrow minded from only playing wow that you can't understand that not every single person has to clear every single raid at every single difficulty, it is OK for games to have content that is hard and that most people cannot do or for players to have goalsthe thing OSRS has going for it is that it has lots of evergreen content that sees use for years instead of being dropped as soon as the next content cycles comes along, they release bosses that don't drop any new BIS items and players still do them or slot them into item progression and they have lots of non combat focused content for players to engage with that is much more relaxedclassic+ has the potential to become a fully fledged RPG with lots of different and timeless content instead of a raid treadmill
>>543427660This is why blizzard needs to hire ME as game director for classic+As long as I am given total control and absolute creative vision powers I can save wow and make the best game ever made
>>543427884>classic+ has the potential to become a fully fledged RPG with lots of different and timeless content instead of a raid treadmillno it doesntwow is fundamentally a different type of game than a sandbox mmo in the vein of runescape or EVE, its doomed to be a raid simulator. and vanilla has every little room to run post-naxx: you kind of saw it with sod and scarlet enclave but the gear delta gets too big thats why tbc is the real classic+
>>543428223I believe in you anon
>>543428574I totally disagree and think classic has room to grow in loads of ways that aren't just raidsthe game was a beta in so many ways for so many features that just love to grow into enjoyable complex systemsall I need is for blizzard to give me plenary authority over the classic team and as much funding as I need so I can create the best game ever made and put them back on the map
>classic+yeah thats called retail you retarded highschool dropouts
>>543429071retail is just CoDclassic+ is talking about an actual fully fledged MMORPG not just rabbit and steel with a town
>>543429264>classic+ is talking about an actual fully fledged MMORPG not just rabbit and steel with a townLike what
they should not release any new 40 man raids or any gear past naxx during classic+ for AT LEAST one year so they can focus on other parts of the game
reminder that every classicpluskek doesnt actually know what they want
>>543431073classic is still here but where is this guy
>>543431184>classic is still herebarely
>>543431948we're not going anywhere
>>543431989You sure about that? because this general as a whole was barely there for the better part of 3 weeks
>>543432321this general is not the only place
>>543432793>t-that doesn't matterthere there
>>543432848
>>543433025>some random pic from my reactions folder to show em
'member when mopjeet made a pandashit furfag OP and nobody posted it in and the janny buttfucked him KWAB
>>543433384the only thing I want to show you is my love and affection
>>543433598
Threads in full swing today huh
Yeah bro we're BVVVVVLAAAAASTING like real PUMPERS whooooo!
How to make Classic Plus>No more progression after KT & NaxxRaidlogging addicts can never be sated.They don't even appreciate what they're playing, they wanna raidlog for loot, get the loot, then get the next tier of loot.They're a tiny minority who should be mostly ignored.If they truly want more raids and better gear, then go play TBC, WOTLK or even retail, that's what they want in their hearts.New raids with new loot could be added, but they can't be added for the purpose of the zombies get their next upgrade after Naxx.>Expand the existing mapAs in redraw it. The map looks the way that it is because of early 2000s game limitations and because they wanted it to be easy to traverse. Kul Tiras doesn't fit between Stormwind and Hillsbrad in WoW, so they just put it further out into the sea.You can adjust the map to make things fit, maybe Elwynn Forest as we know it becomes 4x as big, and split into subzones, travel distance could be address by more flight paths, and other means of transportations, like more boats, and some fast travel caravans. Burning Steppes could be the same, but there could be more zones around it, more mountain paths to travel and quest in, while still being in the eastern kingdoms.It'll never happen, but it should, and you'd probably have to do it in many steps. >Editing GearNot quite transmog, but with professions let players change some gear. Like a Clothier could enhance a cloth robe drop. Would require a decent amount of artist work, to make the item still look recognizable as the original piece, but different.This could be more than cosmetic, so ideally you want find a drop and then having it be tampered with by someone with the appropriate profession. A Paladin in tier3 could with the help of professions make his gear look more like the tier2 set, you should still be able to look at him and see he's not wearing regular Tier2.
>retail is the reason why classic is deadoutstanding self own
>>543434020>It'll never happen, but it shoulddon't give up!
I want them to merge the poe item system with the wow item system and make greens great again
>>543435285who?
>>543435406some gay tranny i guess
>>543435285explain?
>5 days ago
Classic+ means make me 10 years old in 2005 again
>>543441490I feel bad for you
I really hope they lean into adding more classes instead of obliterating them like sod did when it comes to class changesthey don't even have to be super unique, in fact it would be better if they stuck to the original classes as the blueprintexample: carbon copy of the paladin becomes a new cleric class while paladin's healing tree is replaced with a spell damage or whatever. They could share the blessing system too so you don't water down the buffs too much.
>server maintenance from 7am - 3 pm tomorrowliterally whywhat the fucki swear they used to just restart these and have 15 minute downtimes
>>543280579>guys I posted my welfare gear and fantasy where I finally get my revenge on the bullies from school again
what happened to ogtucker
>>543434020>>543434020>>Expand the existing mapSounds cool on paper, but this would be such a huge amount of work that they would basically be making an entirely new game at this point - one several orders of magnitude larger than vanilla itself. Not to mention that the new space has to have content developed for it too, unless you just want it to be empty. Just redoing the existing world in Cataclysm was so much work that it ate up all their resources for the expansion and they vowed never to do it again, and you're asking for something on 4x the scale. It's just not practical. And frankly, it probably wouldn't be nearly as good as you imagine it to be. The world in vanilla is already the perfect level of abstraction where it feels big enough to go on an adventure, but not too big that it feels tedious to get around. Yeah, it sucks that stuff like Kul Tiras doesn't fit perfectly in there, but that's a minor sacrifice. And it's kind of a silly example anyway, because in BFA they made Kul Tiras much bigger than it was previously depicted because it was half of the content for that expansion. A classic style Kul Tiras would probably be much smaller and could be fit in there easily, especially if it was instanced so it wouldn't necessarily have to reflect its full size on the overworld map. Basically, what you're asking for isn't classic+, it's an entirely new game. It's also what they've talked about doing in retail starting with Quel'thalas (remaking the world in portions). And even doing it there is going to take them several years and expansions to accomplish.
>>543443468just do it piece by piece over yearsthey've made how many maps and areas in retail that are never used or thought about again and are all half baked instead of putting real effort into creating and refining what they already have
>>543443468You are so far beyond salvation.
volumes status?
>>543443468>A classic style Kul Tiras would probably be much smaller and could be fit in there easilyYou could make it as big as it was in BFA and make it fit just in place where it should be.If you expanded the map.Drawing terrain isn't that hard.
You will bump this shit thread at page 10 ad infinitum, I command you.
>>543385294we're so fucking back
I wanna play wotlk bros
>>543486331which class before i say i ew
>>543443919yeah they did its called retailyou know, the popular and successful version of the game?
>>543491891so youre saying it could work
Can one of you turbofaggots explain the appeal of a formerly persistent MMO turned into seasonal FOMO treadmill? How many times will you play the same shit game, doing the same shit quests, and same shit raids, before you find a new hobby? I could understand a dedicated PvPer jumping through the hoops of Blizztardation to play some okay-ish world PvP, but most of you are PvE-cripples chasing items you've grinded for dozens of times already.
>why does whitey climb a mountain
>>543494543Im saying they already did it so you should play the version of the game that has what you asked for
>>543497770nah ill wait for the real version
>>543497859retail is the real version, thats why they update it
>>543497517In your mind being a paypig for Slopzard is equivalent to a lifetime achivement of exploring the world and climbing mountains IRL? Saar, do the needful and redeem your life via MAID.
>>543497517>clearing the most trivial content in all 20 years of the game is a mountainlol
>>543498159Average levels detected>>543498986No detection
>>543499330>ESL babbletry that again but speak like a human
>>543497770retail has not iterated on the same zones over years to improve the world, they have created new zones over and over again while either removing or neglecting old areas and leaving them to rot causing insane bloat
>>543497414there is no appeal that is why everyone wants the MMO to be persistent and an RPG againeven retail is just a seasonal FOMO treadmill so there is really no option other than classic
>>543491891they should make retail more like fortnite and roblox since they're the more popular an successful games
just break the glass and press the Classic+ buttonall you gotta do Blizzard
>>543508028just break the glass and press the retail expansion buttonall you gotta do blizzard
blizzard doesnt know what to do, retoilets are happy if they get a new mountie (recolor) to maze them for a month but classic players demand quality
>>543508349they've been pressing that button for 20 yearsit's time for the other button
You look around. The menu has changed. The portions are bigger. The flavors are duller. The presentation is gone. But the line is longer than ever.You realize something: they’re not cooking for you anymore. They’re cooking for the pigs.You’re not a pig. You don’t want slop. But the pigs are happy. The pigs are loud. The pigs are everywhere.And the restaurant thinks: if the pigs are happy, everyone must be happy.
>>543508890this sums up sod nicely
if sod is so good why is no one playing it?if gdkps killed the economy why is it worse now that they're banned?why is 2019 classic with #nochanges the best version they've released?is hardcore the only version worth playing anymore?
If this was one of you, nice. Otherwise, he's still shitting and pissing himself over losing that perdition's blade. LOL, LMAO EVEN.
>>543510119b*nji is kind of based, bit low IQ maybe but an absolute gamer lad like us, neeting and barely making ends meet to keep doing what he loves
>>543510367Shut the fuck up Benji.
>>543510775I ain't b*nji, but I watch his videos sometimes. Dude can ramble for 3 hours about trivial shit, it's kinda entertaining background noise at times
>>543511707>toxonig low test avatarhmmm yep
I wish TBC content wasnt complete dogshit
>>543508461>expecting quality from blizzard in 2025wew lad
>>543512545we can either hope for a brighter future or resign ourselves to the cruel fate we have been givenit is always right to fight against the dying of the light and strive for greatnessonly fools and cowards bend the knee and give up
>>543512660both look like nice families
>>543512660>"fighting" for a company to stop prioritizing keeping shareholders happy/making their bottom line look good just to appease 100 people with insanely high standardsor maybe just get a clue
>>543513224>fighting for the things you love and care about against all odds knowing that in the end you will winor maybe just give up and become a drone
>>543513442kek dude its a video game
>>543513562then why are you here talking about it
>>543513867because its a fun game
>>543508461>Fresh servers dominated by bots and third worlders for nearly a year>Get false reported by a bot, get an automated appeal response from a bot>quality
>>543514081I never said it is quality, I said they expect quality. It's why these people play on privates instead, trying all sorts of classic+ abomination servers currently.
>>543514081come play on hardcore
why do people keep asking for classic+ when thats literally what SOD was
Everything was peaceful and beautiful till the retoilets came swaming out of their native sewer on their flying toilet mounts to shit all over our beautiful azeroth
>>543515627a SOD with more restrained class design, no incursions, and more content like kara crypts would be fucking awesome
>>543515627because people asking for classic+ have impossible standards
>>543515627why do people keep asking for steaks when thats literally what hamburger helper is
>>543515627The boss of Classic himself said it wasn't Classic+.
>>543515627>le food analogy replythe sign of defeat
>>543517005>why do people ask for thing X when thing Y exists? >haha le epic ragebait they will never point out how thing X is not thing Yyou are fat
>>543517005>food analogy le badDo I fit in yet?
>>543516875what makes it hamburger helper and not steak?
>>543517462its not what I ordered
>>543517679thats not what i asked, though
>>543517005DAMN this got them FUMING
>>543517696imagine using an analogy that as many people as possible will understand as people eat(excluding the prophet elijah)
>>543517972okay cool now answer >>543517462
>>543517771it was seasonal and had powercreep
Are the servers really going to be down all day?:(
>>543518236>what makes SoD not classic+?Blizzard developers do not consider Season of Discovery (SoD) to be "Classic+"; instead, they view it as an experimental season that adds new abilities via runes to a classic framework. While developers have stated SoD isn't a true Classic+ and have ended active development on it, they have indicated that they plan to use lessons from it for a future, more authentic Classic+ project.
>>543518267>vanilla needs content to be added that keeps the old content relevantthis doesnt even happen in regular vanilla so yeah, impossible standards like>>543516750mentioned
scarlet enclave and kara crypts were unironically some of the best content blizzard ever made
>>543518640>kara crypts darkness mechanic taken straight from darkflame cleft(a retail dungeon)>best content ever made volyumes
>>543518608>vanilla needs content to be added that keeps the old content relevantthey never even said this>so yeah, impossible standardshow is it impossible to make new content that doesn't make old content irrelevant? it would be very easy to add content between level 1 and naxx no? was ZG impossible? was AQ20 impossible? was adding new dungeon bosses with naxx launch impossible? was the war effort impossible? was diremaul impossible? was adding new races and starter zones in tbc prepatch impossible? are holiday events impossible? are pvp updates and arena impossible? is you not having fetal alcohol syndrome impossible?
>>543518940actually that darkness mechanic was based on how I felt running up the stairs after turning off the lights as a kid
>>543518986>they never even said thisthey said it had power creep so yes that is what power creep entails>was ZG impossible? was AQ20 impossible?both of these made people stop running molten core and jump right into bwl/aq40 after getting some gear so yeah
>>543519357>people stop running MC when ZG came outyou are retarded and have not played
>>543518528So what Is classic +?What can classic+ bring to the table that hasn't been done in the past by expansions?
>>543518940I dont care where they got it from the first couple of times I did it it felt like an old school dungeon crawler. As it got nerfed, a route optimized, and people got accustomed to it it felt more like a high quality gimmick dungeon but going in day 1 with 5 AQ bis guildies all in comms getting lost and running into bosses that would actually wipe you was a fantastic experience.Im actually genuinely suprised that the same team that spent hundreds of hours of dev time on incursions and actually thought it was a good idea were capable of making such a sick dungeon
>>543519357>so yes that is what power creep entailscan you literally not imagine a game that doesn't have power creep every 3 months?
>>543519553>ermmmm, people kill 2 bosses for the legendary item, that makes the ENTIRE raid relevantyou didn't really play back then lol
>>543518640>>543519169kino
>>543519967>Yessss, I want them to add a raid every 2-3 months but I still have to run every other previous raid so that we get to do more raids every weekThey already tried this, it was called Ulduar. They inflated the stats of the raid to keep it relevant by the time TOGC came outand guess what, people got tired of running both ulduar and TOGC very fastyou really think you want to do as many raids as possible in a week, boy you're in for a surprise when no one else shows up(btw it also happened in TBC)
>>543520004that actually does keep the raid relevant and there are items that are still bis from MC after ZG release than just TFinstead of instantly giving up and just making every raid totally delete the last one you should try thinking about how vanilla devs were trying to make raids keep their relevancy by trying new drop types out like zg enchants and aq20 bookswhy do you just fall back to "retail does it this way so its the only possible way"
>>543520491>instead of instantly giving up and just making every raid totally delete the last one you should try thinking about how vanilla devs were trying to make raids keep their relevancy by trying new drop types out like zg enchants and aq20 booksAnd people hated going to ZG even if it was for 2 or 3 bossesAnd no one ever came back to aq20 because you could just buy those books lol>why do you just fall back to "retail does it this way so its the only possible way"I didn't even say anything about retail, what are you talking about
>>543520674>And people hated going to ZG even if it was for 2 or 3 bosses>And no one ever came back to aq20 because you could just buy those books loland your take away is that makes it impossible to add new content and we should just give up instead of actually trying to improve what exists
kang's honor
>>543520238you are literally making random things up to reply to in this entire reply chain
>>543519553insane projection lol nobody wants to keep doing mc once aq40/naxx is out just because some wartard hasnt gotten his tf or accuria yet
>>543520902You've been missing the point entirely so let me spell it out more directly I guess: Players HATE running multiple full raids at once. See what >>543520238 mentioned with ulduarYou don't want to burn out your playerbase faster by doing that because doing more than 2 or 3 raids will feel like a chore, especially in classic where you need (yes, need, because anniversary has showed how the current classic playerbase is like) world buffs and full consumables
>>543521148>i didn't play wrath so i don't believe youi know
>>543521289how does>make new content that doesn't make old content irrelevantand>add content between level 1 and naxx nomean>running multiple full raids at onceand why can't you just make content that doesn't feel like a chore to do
>>543521507>just don't make it feel like a choreOh! That's so simple! wow why didn't anyone think of that!
>>543521479>I didn't enjoy legion remix so you have blue hairwell first off I don't have blue hair my hair is actually brown so you're an idiot
>>543520238>shaman is better than paladin because of windfuryokay but the tools paladin has at it's disposal are miles better than shaman's toolset plus they have human racial so they don't even need edgies
>>543521682>retail out of nowhere and some other random gibberishinteresting
>>543431073bolumes
Classic+ should ideally feature horizontol progression, polished dungeons, raids and zones (fixes rather than changes), a lore rewrite that continues WC3 whilst retaining the narrative/RPG sandbox (=no chosenite syndrome). Blizztard will never revamp the itemization, polish Vanilla or rewrite the dogshit post-AQ lore: >1) it costs too much>2) it takes talent>3) it competes with retailThe game has been used as testlab for predatory proto-mobile buisness practices and proliferated them across the genre and industry. Vanilla's potential will never be leveraged, because it's the antithesis to everything Activision stands for.
>>543521658The chore is in the eye of the beholderThings you might think are chores others enjoyCome play Hardcore with us
>>543521857>the thing thousands and thousands of players hate is enjoyed by dozens, therefore the game should cater to the dozens
>>543521987>the game should cater to the dozenscorrectif you want to just cater to as many people as possible then they should try to make wow as close to roblox steal a brainrot as possible
>>543522145You're very bright
wow players are so brainbroken by constant content releases that they cannot comprehend doing content for fun because you enjoy it and at your own paceosrs has lots of raids and bosses with bis items that have no lockouts at all and players aren't constantly talking about how its too much content that feels like a chore to do each weekmakes you think
>>543522145>investing for negative returns as a goal is every game dev's goal
>>543522296and then you woke up and clicked on redwood for 5 hours
at this point the only thing blizzard could do non gameplay wise is upgrade the graphics to something good like gta v, horizon zero dawn, fortnite etc, gameplay wise what they should be doing is looking towards hit indie games since they are actually innovating in the gaming space, something like what hollow knight might be doing and i don't mean exactly but something like maybe design paradigms present in balatro or vampire survivors etc.
>>543522197you would enjoy fortnite
>>543522296but wow players do content for fun, it's called running old raids or doing achievementslet me guess, this doesn't fit your narrative and its totally invalid because its not vanilla>osrs has lots of raids>>543522586
>>543522296The people doing content for fun are all playing Ironman, something WoW doesn't have. WoW is intrinsically FOMO because of how stupid the lockout system is. Something you probably don't know is that RS3 tried doing raids back in the mid 2010s and they failed miserably. People gatekept the shit out of it despite it being relatively easy. They required you to have way more consumes and shit than needed. It was basically the same as classic raids are now which is why Jamflex never introduced another RS3 raid after Mazcab.
>>543522632You're out of arguments and now spewing random shit
>>543522508>undertale would be a better game if it has microtransactions when you are making a game with a creative vision that you care about and actually want it to be good instead of a profitmaxxingslopfest
>>543522905>comparing an online mmo sandbox with a single player game with one storylineYeah dude every single game plays the same
>>543522586what I would give for wow to have fully fledged complex and interlocking systems like osrs skills /sigh
>>543522860>>543522197>>543521987You're out of arguments and now spewing random shit
>>543522812mazcab failed because the lead dev on it got poached by another company retard
>>543523251>n-n-no u!aw man, it broke
>>543523074>online mmo sandbox rpgs cannot have any content that isn't a weekly lock out raid with higher ilvl gear than the lasthave you ever played morrowind?
>>543523270And the reason why they never introduced another raid after? Was it also because this one guy got poached? No one else could copy raid content from other games at Jagex, right?
>>543515627Blizzard just needs to read this anon's mind: >>543428965 and implement the changes stat.Then we have Classic and its Plus.
>>543523412Come back to me with that argument when you can play World of Warcraft in the middle of nowhere with a laptop offline
>>543523337>I peed in my pantiestry to relax anon
>>543523629>no u x2im not the one here replying on cooldown for hours lol
>>543523612what argument?
>>543523475yeah jagex leadership is retarded. the only thing that ever happens in that game is the result of individual devs who give a shit.
>>543523769this is the world of warcraft classic general can you stay on topic please
>>543523937I thought this was the fortnite/roblox/undertale general, given how you namedropped those games out of nowhere
>>543522812>They required you to have way more consumes and shit than needed.DID YOU ACTUALLY GET FILTERED BY NEEDING OVERLOADS AHAHAHAH
>>543524050what are you gonna play during tbc?
The BBC+ general took all out pvmps, grim
Why are all the Hardcore servers still Offline?
>meditating>get a vision from the future>I'm on /vg/, the general I'm posting it looks familiar, but something is strange>it's WoW, but people are talking about getting lumber and making guild halls, few players unlocked alliance high elves, tauren runemaster is flexxing, so many new comfy mountain paths between redridge and ironforge, the zones look expanded, one retail player is still in denial but everyone ignores him, faction war over stromgarde on one server, stromgarde is a fully functional city on another, so many different dungeons players choose to run>check the thread name, could it be..>/wowc+g/ World of Warcraft Classic + General>vision fadesone day
skipped lol
we need to bring the world back into world of warcraft
I miss when world of warcraft was a Role-Playing Adventure game...
warcrafting needs to come back to the world
There must always be a cope to believe in. For nillers, its classic+. For retoilets, its wow 2.
>addons totally bustedGreat, my dad guild is never going to be able to do naxx tonight without their fojji bloatware packs
>blizzard uses AWS (amazon web services) for their hosting >AWS, a subsidiary of Amazon, employs a significant number of people in India and has a large presence there. India is a key market for AWS, which has invested heavily in its cloud infrastructure in the country, including opening a second cloud region in Hyderabad. indians have been breaking the fucking internet all week from youtube to amazon, now classic wow cannot even escape. insane
>filtered slob is backwanna make it 28 times a row now lil cucky? >>542825578
>>543533645>filtered I would never admit that I'm scared of words like this. embarrassing
>insta filtered post right beneathmust be some angry reply saying "noooo i didn't lose 14 times, he was using gimmicks!!" lmfoa kwab >>542825578
>>543533645>>543534029it's important to keep in mind when speaking to me that I am 6'3 280lbs. https://files.catbox.moe/39lbmf.mp4
>he keeps talking to the voidno one is listening to you retarded fat slob lmfao "ouchie cuffs hurt, i need to take a heavy breath, my 400 pound slob body can only walk for so long" >>542825578>>542825578
>>543535471>reads every post>responds within seconds each time>does nothing but deflect to his own cope I accept your defeat.
>slob keeps replying to no oneHoly lmfao i can't imagine being a cuckold that watches from the chair 14 times in a row by a night elf chad lmfaooooo
>page 10bump it. we all know this thread is the only thing you have in your life
>>543537461you are a bit of an orbiter tbf
yup
>*coughs blood*... if the thread dies again for the 5th time in a row... r-retail wins... >>543432321
What a horrible night to be a 300 pound fat slob 'niller
If the thread dies before the bump limit, I will never press the Classic Plus button.t. John Blizzard of Blizzard Entertainment
Another lover's quarrel between the mentally ill huh
grimlic... won.
I miss the animer, I always wanted to be her slave in-game
>>543533645>>543534029>>543535471>>543537461mfw my designated orbiter responds within a few minutes anytime I post https://youtu.be/YzoMSgBzjsI?si=IXa5VS1tYnflTU5d
>>543552425what a horrible night indeed
fixing this is Classic+
grim...
classic+ will have a larger render distance
>>543476624drawing terrain isn't hard.filling that terrain with content to make it meaningful instead of just empty space is a lot of work though.
>>543447496not an argument.you retards will never get the classic+ you want because your expectations are completely beyond any possible reality. you don't actually want something that builds on classic, you want an entirely new game based on your childhood fantasies.
>>543566965Classic Plus will create jobs
>>543566965we've got about 20 years worth of content to catch up on
>>543567379>I can't picture an apple in my mind so its impossible and apples don't exist
>>543570509>kill 10 boars, collect 15 bear asseswowwwwwwwwwwww
>>543574551>complain about bad content I don't personally liketry thinking of good content you do like and how old content could be improved instead
classics plus will bring an end to all war and famine
>>543575232enlighten us, since you sound like you know the key
>>543576615you can't think of anything better than 20 straight years of kill boar quests yourself?
>>543576090real classic plus has never been tried
90% of players stop subscribing just before Blizzard has enough money to fund Classic Plus
I miss when everyone who plays wow had played warcraft 3most of you have never played rexxars campaign and it shows
what is unc yapping about?
>>543578973>I miss when everyone who plays wow had played warcraft 3Yeah.I like that at least some go back to play it. sucks though that reforged ruined the campaign and most players from WoW won't know to play the original.It's funny seeing their expectations, like night elves being their own separate faction. Didn't occur to me that it would seem strange, but would make sense if you're coming from WoW, meanwhile I always felt it was a shame that night elves got permanently stuck to the alliance in WoW.
>>543579317watch this chinese machinima from 20 years ago, it has a Rexxar cameo and it should be enough for you to get what we're talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8S6eHT1Ek0
>>543579629now THIS is what I call SOVL
>>543578973everyone has played the original trilogy
>>543579929you don't even know who drak'thul is
>>543576965I asked you first
>>543580601since you put no effort into your initial post I'll put the same amount into my reply>good and fun content
>>543580828>just make content good and funwow that sounds so simple
>>543580916>just make kill boar and collect bear questswow that sounds so complex
i still have no idea what classic plus means
>>543581202it means never raising the level cap and creating iterative content alongside what already existsalternative you can refer to >>543558265 for a full detailed breakdown
>>543581397so season of discovery then?
>>543581506did season of discovery fix this? >>543558265
>>543581506UH OH
Why is SoD classic+ but SoM isn't? What went so wrong?
>>543582189all SoM did was remove world buffs lol
>>543582409I thought it added new raid mechanics and the hardcore game mode?
>>543582532>bosses do their mechanics twicelol nillers will call anything that involves learning difficult>hardcore gamemodeit had a pseudo hardcore mode where you opt into the task, but if you die, you get a permanent debuff that makes your body look blue, but you could still play that same character
>>543583073>I couldn't clear the new raid mechanicsso it did more than just remove world buffs
>>543583808>projecting out of nowhereno way you're about to tell me that baron geddon throwing 2 bombs at the same time is a massive change for you lmfao
>>543584001you called them difficult not me
>>543584124>twisting my words
>>543584486feel free to show where I called them difficult
>>543584617>what's 2+2 and don't say 4i think i'm done here lmfao, reply if you want but i'm closing this tab after this post
that guy 100% got filtered by SoM lmfao
>"you should try eating shit">uuhm, nah>"lmfao this guy got filtered by shit"
Is Whitemane the best server to play on for US PvP? Seems the most populated one for the classic servers.Been a long time since I played vanilla and I'm itching to come back
>>543585548is this post about SoD or what?
>>543585662The "Anniversary" servers have more players currently with some changes (dual spec and pvp ranking revamp)
>>543585662Why do you want to play in a Mexican barrio
>>543585715sod was much more popular than SoM and it also lasted longer, lil bucko
>>543585867What exactly is "Anniversary Classic"? Did they just relaunch classic basically? Is that why there are many more players there?
>>543586452Yes it is a "fresh" reboot of classic servers which came out around a year ago and naxx just released
>>543586527Oh sweet, seems like a decent time to jump in. Ty anonPvP servers toxic and ganky like the old days still?
>>543586448>"eating shit is really popular actually"
>>543586696Yeah pvp servers are still the sameBut that's what makes them fun!
>that one lone wolf SoM defender is here once again to defend SoMoh boy
>>543587059in what ways was SoD better than SoM
>>543586701>all he thinks about is eating shithmmmmmmm
>>543587201you replied to the wrong guy, here you go >>543585548
>>543587161experimented with unique class combos and roles, turned forgotten dungeons into current content, ended up with a new fleshed out raidwhat did SoM bring to the table hmm?
>>543587351>healer mage, retail abilites, incursions, a free boost for mop classicmeanwhile SoM invented the seasonal server format, added the new raid mechanics that were reused in SoD and laid the groundwork for the new content added in it, added the hardcore gamemode and proved to everyone that world of warcraft classic is the best game ever made
>>543587678>meanwhile SoM invented the seasonal server formatloladded the new raid mechanics that were reused in SoD and laid the groundwork for the new content added in it2 living bombs is now considered brand new spanking mechanics lmfaoadded the hardcore gamemode and proved to everyone that world of warcraft classic is the best game ever madeno it didn't, you could still play your character lmfaoclassic is so good MoP and retail is mogging it right now
>>543515627SoD was okay but it went off the deep end with incursions and just kept getting worse afterI want something like SoD but much more restrained gameplay changes
>>543588227>new mechanics aren't new mechanics because I said so>hardcore isn't hardcore because I said soyou should seek therapy for your shit eating related fantasies
>>543588564>reading comprehension>shit out of nowhere againinteresting specimen
>>543588476SoD worked well as an experimental seasonal server to try some things out and see how the player base reactsWhich is exactly what blizzard said SoD wasI do wish that they had tried some more things with professions and the open world but they did a pretty good job of trying out a lot of systems in such a short time honestly
>>543588674you are so retarded it makes it hard to be sure how to talk to you in a way that will penetratejust because you personally find new mechanics simple does not mean they are not new mechanicsthere are hardcore games that transfer your dead characters to softcore or allow you to keep playing them and those are in fact hardcore no matter how much you want to pretend they are notreply to the anon who mentioned eating shit first to prove you are not a bot
>>543589061Holy tantrum, why are you so uptight over someone critiquing your little game? it's a video game after all, no game is perfect, but SoM had objectively more flaws than any other version, which is why it died within a month lmfao>reply to the anon who mentioned eating shit first to prove you are not a bottake your own advice
>>543590026did you get your tabard of the argent dawn yet
>>543590324>slide postnext
>>543590383did you clear SE this week?
>"classic+ now that's gonna be a game!" *lists everything that already exists in retail*
>>543590516
>>543590565retail must not have very much stuff if you can list everything that exists in it so easily
>>543590565>1 insta seethe reply
>>543590861
>>543590565make it 2
a trve classic+ needs to lean more heavily into the rpg/journey aspect of the game. why do people keep wanting classic in the first place? obviously the world being the main character, the leveling experience, the questing, all that stuff. also to escape the bloat of retail with its million buttons per spec per class and systems bloat - something that aggrend decided classic needed. and to nobodies surprise it was a fucking failureslow down leveling, add more leveling quests, thematic class quests, make the world even more dangerous (hot take, remove the ability for certain classes to solo shit like mages rounding up 40 mobs and aoe'ing them down with blizzard) and keep the limited action economy of vanilla classes in place, at least during leveling. its fucking retarded and defeats the entire purpose of leveling if a paladin can just run into a pack of mobs, press divine fart and have them all fall over. may as well just sell a level boost at that point
>cryboomer ramble
>>543591987it's a shame they never got around to finishing that last shaman totem questhttps://youtu.be/a638ikzjOOg
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>>543593243>petricorejust like climbing a mountain btw
if you had to rework fishing in wow to improve it and make it into a fun and engaging gameplay option what would you do?
>>543593724nillers say the darnest things
>>543593724someone REALLY got riled up by the mountain climbing demographics, wonder why..
>>543292546damn i didnt think anyone under 40 played any more, you youngins dont know what you missed when teenage girls (with penises) were raid leaders
>>543595056id wager it being a retarded comparison is why
Damn, this really reminds me of wow
>>543586848>>543586696similar to the OP who started this reply chain, I am coming back after like 3 or 4 years. I like PvP but don't like getting camped 24/7. Is Nightslayer an ok aniv classic realm?
>>543596695When I see this all I think is surely this time I can beat the barrens
Will we get fresh SoD while we wait for Classic+?
>>543599768bump
JAVELS GYM BRAPPER
Just make the servers permanently fresh instead of adding new fresh servers
>>543628174Yearly reset servers lets go
>>543628174Yo that sounds like hardcore bro. Where my faustian spirit vvhite goose steppers at??
It's happening. My guess is prepatch brings token for tbc classic along with the char boost.
>>543628790>the chinese get a new classic + tbc + wotlk server>the 鬼佬 get wow tokens added to hardcoret-thanks blizzard
>>543629053Blame the retards buying gold non-stop. They should've all quit instead of dedicating their lives to feeding impoverished families overseas.
>>543618173Nightslayer is the best PvP server for anni yeah, it has a good 50/50 split too
>>543628525Join us on Doomhowl
Does weapon sinking change so much your dps as an enhancement shaman in tbc? If it does, I think I'll just stick with elemental and healing, this level of autism is too much for me
>>543629053the chinese server has gatcha boxes with loot inside
>>543628790basednow unban gdkp too
>>543640429this but unironically.
>>543640851why would you think i was being ironicone look at the anniversary pug scene will prove the gdkp ban was a mistake done solely because aggrend got butthurt he kept getting denied from them
>>543640429>>543640851>>543641374>pleeease let me give you more money daddy blizz, I need to buy my heckin' epicrinos!good piggies
Just don't buy the wow tokens it's not hard to do
the moneylets ITT seething. ill do my day job, hit the gym login for a couple of hours of my free time and buy consumes with gold i bought and have fun instead of waste 15-30 hours a week farming like a bug.
>>543644928why stop halfway you poorfag? just pay someone to play your character for you, maybe fuck your wife too
>>543644928>farming like a bugironic since the biggest paypigs are the bugmen, but whatever helps you cope, piggy
My entire guild and trade/general chat is nothing but people whining about how they can't remember their keybinds or what they had on them since the update. The worst I had to deal with was putting my demon's abilities back on their action-bar.Maybe click your buttons every once in a while and you'll remember where things went, not every single ability you place on your action bar needs a keybind. It's okay to click abilities, that's why they're clickable in the first place. I can't think of any class that needs more than 10 keybinds for their entire kit to function, and those that do simply switch action bars when appropriate.
>>543651821or just take a picture of it beforehand like anyone with above tapwater temp iq
the reason that any classic+ concept is bound to fail is due to one very very very simple yet ignored premisePeople don't play classic for fun. People play classic to get better gear than other people, to parse better than other players, to make up for not having any social status in real life. That's really all it is. Whatever retarded "Dood just release raids that drop gear that isnt stronger!!!" is literally some retarded 85 IQ kid. People only do anything in classic to get ahead. At least the people who pvp on classic have some type of reasoning, no matter how much better pvp is on retail, there is a new meta/rhythm/cadence to pvp in different expansions, which can be refreshing. I've played hundreds of hours of wotlk/cata/mop classic bgs for FUN. Literally for fun. Honor capped, no gear upgrades left, just for fun. There is literally no reason to pve on classic instead of retail unless you are just that shitty of a player (Which is really another crux of this debate). You're not going to convince me 0 mechanic vanilla raids are more "fun" or "challenging" than anything on retail. Ultimately, the concept of classic+ is a paradox. You want a challenge, but you don't want a challenge. You want new content, but you don't want new content. Why in the world would blizzard invest in something? What you really want is retail, but I think OG mop release in 2013 buckbroke you so badly that you forever seethed at retail for releasing pandas. Ultimately, you think you do, but you don't. Truly a visionary.
>>543654570>People don't play classic for funWrong. Not reading the rest of that bs.
classic token ruined the game for me
>>543656280so why did you stop raiding MC/BWL?
never cheat, never lievanilla fresh until i die
>>543658383I hate minorities
im gonna cryboom*crybooms and has been crybooming since tbc released in 2021*
>>543657164the silence speaks, dare i say, volumes?
>>543654570trvke
>>543654570>A sequel to the "vanilla subhumans" copypasta
nillers be like, "i play wow for fun" as they hard reserve loot and only invite certain classes if theyre specced healer
better than>I spend years of my life crying about people playing vanilla wow for fun
>>543664603Notice how they don't say you're wrong
>>543654570>People play classic to get better gear than other people, to parse better than other players,I honestly don't think that's most people.Like less than 5%
kinda ironic since billers have been crying about anything that isn't niller ever since tbc came out
>he says crying about nilla in the nilla threadlol?
>>543667353Notice once again how they will say anything but "you're wrong"
This is a MoP Classic thread
>>543661004I never started raiding MC/BWL because I don't enjoy raiding and instead play the game for the things I do enjoy
>>543666235why argue with someone who is bad faith and won't listen to you no matter what you say?
>>543669097That street goes both ways friendo
>>543667353if you don't see the difference between>crying about other people playing a game they enjoyand>crying because the game you enjoy was deleted from existencethen you are beyond saving the most common thing I see from nillers is that they wanted no changes and to bug fix all the issues that keep plaguing both era and now anni servers but you will ignore that and choose to cherrypick or just strawman so you feel better
>>543669169then why are you here arguing?
>>543669430>>crying because the game you enjoy was deleted from existenceBut Era is up and running since 2021? What are you talking about?
>>543654570have you tried ff14? are the raids that they have easier or harder than retail?
>>543669430>>crying because the game you enjoy was deleted from existenceDid Blizzard shutdown vanilla servers or something?
>>543669720>>543669903>kinda ironic since billers have been crying about anything that isn't niller ever since tbc came out
>>543670092>Moving the goalpostsDidn't see that one coming
>>543670172read >>543667353>ever since tbc came out
>>543670092If you really thought that I was talking about TBC from 2007 and not from 2021 you're an even bigger retard lmfao
>>543670365I haven't even 5% as much niller crying since they got the 2021 classic servers compared to the tsunami of tears coming from the people yelling that niller is bad and everyone should stop playing it foreverall the crying was from before blizzard ever gave them those servers
>>543668278When is ToT coming out?
>the two mentally ill retards are still arguing after so many years Holy KWAB
>>543670665>revisionismman you're the whole package lol
>>543670895>strawman greentext to contort the last thing you saidbad faith argument against the strawman so I never have to engage with you seriously
>>543671030>n-no uhere we go
>>543671092you literally just did it againtry your hardest to in good faith represent my position and then I'll let you know what you get right and what you get wrong
>>543671274already did and you rejected it all and trying to slidepost them allnext
>>543671359ok now reply with a blank (You)it's pretty clear your only goal is to shit up the thread with off-topic nonsense canned bot responseskeeps us on page 1 at least
>>543671606>babbling random shit nowcalling something bad = off topic. riiight.
>>543672132page 1
>>543672253>ok now reply with a blank (You)outstanding self own
classic is better than retail because I can post ITT while I raid
>>543672356at least you actually quote the reply properly now try saying something about classic
>>543672878Throne of thunder soon
>>543673038are you excited :3
>>543673150yeah
>>543673260what are you gonna play
>>543673458Tank
the wpm of someone complaining that other people are enjoying things vs them talking about what they enjoy
>>543673698That do be nillers for you
>>543673837Why are you so obsessed with nillers? Can't be healthy
they should change raid lockouts to be daily instead of weekly
>>543674056why does a word hurt you?
>>543674423Are you asking yourself? I'm just wondering what kind of mental illness you have to keep doing this for over a year now. Did a niller steal your looties during classic or what man?
Im getting classic itch again after 8 months break.i have 60 mage ready with rank 7 gear, i wanna do lock and huntard to be ready for tbc and maybe prot pally becouse its fun as fuck.ETA for tbc? i think hope march 26
>>543674856wew
>>543675220based on the patch speed of anni compared to 2019 it seems prepatch will be in late jan with tbc launching in febdon't forget about the fresh tbc servers that will launching however
>>543675258wow*
>>543676017niller
>>543675220This is the type of crack addict I hate the most In WoW, people who roll only the top tier shit instead of using the same soulful character, even if suboptimal. Mage arcane is strong in pve, but people just roll the shadowbolt spam bot to top metters. I'll play shaman blue alien because I like the lore and the gameplay, you roll because you're a metafag, we are not the same
>>543675824Prepatch will be in december, xmas timeThe fuck would it be rolled out in late jan?
>>543676057+
>>543676392generate new answer
>>543676116i played rogue in the last tbc few years ago. gimme some slack. people clowned on me very much. i also played mage later, these 2 was always my mains.also why dont play most op things? why do u care so much, just have fun and let other have fun. its a game
>>543676368this has been less a week off for every phase so far so that's the logic
>>543676593lotta people here only browse so they can be negative to everyone in an attempt to stop people from enjoying the game
>>543676749There is zero percent chance they dont give us a prepatch xmas present