Cooler edition!Latest:FighterZ new balance update is outJump: Gathering announcedGenkishin Squadra is outGEKISHIN SQUADRA SS1 GOTENKSyoutu.be/jYFQSFyW6xAFIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKUyoutu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96SPARKING ZERO DLC 3youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBUXV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3:youtu.be/XPbEhEADsYMyoutu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8>Useful links:rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.SDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026DB The Breakers:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>542509912
>>542812738I like Caulifla more
OTP of /dbg/
>>542812738The STRONGEST in the UNIVERSE!
>>542813206Garlic Jr- SAMA!?
>>542813206Lmao.
>>542813834RATku is fodder for everyone
>>542812942Fuck off, Salagir
>>542812942Salagir...
>>542812942We love this here.
>>542813206C-C-C-Captain Ginyu-dono??? F-f-f-forgive my insubordination, sir! I shall do my greatest SPECIAL FIGHTING POSE in your honor!
I hate Trunk players
>>542812942I like Uub x Marron more. She can be his older sister figure and corrupt him.
>>542814546>I like BBC x Snowbunny moreGokubro btw.
>>542814635I thought Uub was Indonesian?
>>542814810He's indian and online indians like pretending they're black.
>>542814457They are all retards
I'm trying to understand Cooler in GS.>His passive gives I-frames only when activated, using up the power up won't do so>The passive stays active for 8 seconds when in his normal form, 12 seconds when transformed>This means when transformed, you can use skill 3 to activate it, then once its cooldown is over, you can use it again and the skill can have the passive's buffs, needs precise timing for that though>His passive increases the damage of his rush attackSo what do I do with him exactly? Always activate his passive during a fight with S1, attack for a bit, then once S1's cooldown is about to end, use up the buffs with S3, only to activate it again and eventually use it with S2? Or should I keep attacking and save S2/S3 for when they try to escape? He also seems like the tank who's better off with Build Up compared to the others, but I feel that it's still better to use Snowball with him...
>>542814457I like anyone who is squishy and has a Super Attack that makes them stand still for a long timet. Pickle Jew Main
>>542814282gods don't count as people
They need to hotfix Super Snowball out of the game. They don't need to replace it with anything, they just need to remove it.
>>542815472Do whatever the fuck you want, honestly, You're playing fucking Cooler he is the same as Caulifla. Both of these characters just stat check everyone.
Poor Vegeta, having to witness his son (future trunks) be such a fucking jobber. I can't think of a more unintentionally shit character as future Trunks.
>run solid barrier>never have to worry about light grenade snipesIt's just that easy.
>>542817245>Do whatever the fuck you want, honestly, You're playing fucking Cooler he is the same as Caulifla. Both of these characters just stat check everyone.I was trying that, results weren't impressive, so I want to learn him properly... I did get into a good team now though, so now I'm A4 with every role.
>>542818319>Poor Vegeta, having to witness his son (future trunks) be such a fucking jobber.He got it from his father though...
who's your favorite dbfz player
>>542814282>VIZIrrelevant
>>542820301Me, when I choose to play the game.
>>542820301Myself
>>542820394>>542820409I wish I liked my own gameplay. i'm not even that good at all
>>542820520I'm shit at the game, I just like myself a lot.
>>542818485If Cooler is too hard, switch to Caulifla, it's what I did. I found her to be more effective.
>>542821454>AI slopCome on anon...
>>542821547This but with Pan please
>>542821576>slop posting calling others slop
>>542817245>Cooler>Cauliflathe two tanks i don't have lol
>>542820391It does seem Viz's translation is accurate.
>>542821889Tanks are the three C's. Cooler, Caulifla, Cell. (Cell isn't as good as the other two) but yeah, tough luck.
>>542821576>>542821854>comparing AI-slop to HUMANCHAD MASTERPIECE
>>542822924Whoa nigga, Cell is the best aggro tank in the game
>BIGGER
>>542822651>worldReferring to NAMEKdonezo
Is he called Super Trunks or Ultra Trunks?
>>542828642Real ones call him Ultra
>>542828642ultra, just like his father ultra vegeta 1
>>542820138S2 is still the best for Vegeta, you're not supposed to do much fighting initially and if your DPS lane partner is, he's griefing. leveling up S2 is for farming Cell Jr.'s efficientlyBut there are only two Cell Jrs to kill before the Kaioshin shows up, and the Kaioshin is the big priority. And it's not just about the lane partner getting into a fight, the enemy team also likes to start them, so leveling up S3 gives me a way to get HP back, and a good Kaioshin finisher. Sure it sucks if I still lose the Kaioshin and have to grind a little more to get S2, but so far the results of leveling up S3 have been good. Although, maybe leveling up S2 and S3 could solve that too...
>>542830578while the Kaioshin is important, I still prefer being able to farm Cell Jrs fast
>>542821576>Come onoh i WILL be
>>542826684I believe you, but the amount of games I see Cell players completely int the early game and become a dead weight to their team is astonishing.
>mobile game general where we post AI art/dbg/'s heydays are truly behind it...
>>542834959Not much else to do until xv2's update
>>542834959For a /vg/ general, you could do a whole lot worse.
>>542835705We could laugh at bad doujins to pass the time again. Maybe Kakumei got a new chapter...
>>542812738Note is pure!
>>542836025what the fuck>i vibrate my head to counter time stop because reasonsthe absolute fuck
>>542814546>She can be his older sister figure and corrupt him.She needs to age first.
>>542836025That doesn't make any goddamn sense Salagir you fuck.
>>542836895>>542838131Salagir is extremely talented at coming up with the worst explanations imaginable.
>>542839731>filenameOf course he did. His power is maximum.
>>542839731I wish they'd at least give Broly legendary SS3 or something, very bizarre watching regular Broly end universes.
>>542832257>>542821576>>542821454>Using AI to shit out more samey pics of girls with hundreds of images>When you could be using AI to shit out samey pics of Cocoa
>>542836025Is this really any dumber than Jiren breaking out of Hit's Time Prison because he's got big muscles? lol
>>542840445Yes, very. Dragon ball has always had absolute physical/ki mastery be capable of no selling wonky powers. Its way better to say>yeah, he's just that much stronger/in control of his own formthan to give some pseudo-science bullshit explanation that falls apart immediately when you look at every other time the same phenomena has happened>no bro, goku was in perfect stillness at the start of his match so he wasn't vibrating the air around him thus creating a bubble of anti-living thing petrificationJust typing that felt terrible
>>542840445>dumberIt's not smarter because there's no logic to it.>the timestop doesn't affect inanimate objectsAlright.>I felt the particles around us changeMakes sense.>By having my antenna vibrate continuouslyHuh?>I created a protective bubble around meWhat? Are your antennas inanimate objects now? You couldn't tell anyone else about this bubble trick? Why didn't Goku feel this particle change?
>>542814112
>>542820301Hook
>DBS 17 is added to FighterZ>Has a stubby limbs problem>DBS 17 is in Gekishin Squadra>Has a stubby limbs problemWhy does it keep happening...?
>>542841482>It's not smarteri didn't say that it was?
>>542840351Well, that's kind of the annoying thing about it, characters with less art tend to be harder for NovelAI to recreate. They recently improved the character reference feature though so that's helped a lot.
>>542814457he needs a buff
/dbg/ hosted tournament when?
>>542844758>characters with less art tend to be harder for NovelAI to recreateIf you're dedicated enough, you can do it. Once I saw someone making gens of pic related. I was shocked! Whenever I tried making gens of Aeos they looked bad...
>>542845501>making gensyou mean prompting slop? LOL
>Google image>Google serves me the image i Googled>me: "i made this"this is your brain on AI sloppa
>>542845874Whatever! You know what I mean.
>>542843007Manlet
Sorry, Beat-kun. Maybe next time.
(You) can only pick one...
We hate dolphin shorts here.
Didn't see anybody mention it but they added custom battles. Might be a fun thing for the general to try and do someday>>542847206Kek were we in the Super skill match? As soon as I saw the double Gokus I knew how it would end
>>542847613yeah, you prefer to look at cut dudes beat eachothers meat, i know
>>542847728>Didn't see anybody mention itI'm ignored... >>542845095
>>542847728Yeah that match. I was your lane mirror opponent. I stopped queuing tank out of respect. I'm going for the top 1000 badge but I won't get in your way right now.
>>542847987>DISCORDdisgusting.....I should've checked there first....
perhaps you would prefer this form...
>>542848384That damn Super Saiyan 3 Kamehameha will never not make me madNah I was just doing some random matches, taking a break from trying to get Tech up to S rank.
>>542848551Actually what I went to go work on. Player code: EaUH8AQLLThH4hJN if you need to duo.
Buu is so much better now... I can even do combat medic memes with him.
>>542849334Neat, sent a request. If you ever see me online feel free to shoot out an invite.
>>542842197i like him too i play big dicc picc and ssj vegeta
>>542847387Which Dragon Ball character is this?
>>542850448the new one
>>542814457Using Trunks feels so well in Veggie Battle
>>542826191>posting a Namekian
>>542837476>shartnga
I lost with Dabura again
>tfw Zamasu could have become a Reverse Flash tier paradox villain who appears again and again at different points in time, but he just got no diff'd by Zeno forever
I had a dream evil 21 kept bugging me to get her a 'sick-ass metal guitar' and play with her and I think Towa in a band
>Some nigga on youtube offering to make guides for characters on roles he's not even S inBro, you are not even out of the tutorial stageIf you are below S you literally get bot games half the time, you aren't even playing the real game yet
>>542843007>>542846707Is that why Vegeta has no melee skills?
>>542856092What the about Veggie Battle? Is it botted?
>>542856514No idea, barely touched other modes
So Gotenks, despite being a tech, has the damage numbers of a DPS, has one of the biggest health pools in the game and is the fastest tech after Frieza (with passive up only, otherwise Gotenks is faster).I'm one of the people who said there is nothing in his skills themselves that is that crazy and I still think that, but Gotenks' stats are otherwise sooooooo obviously and cynically overtuned. They really are taking the p2w route with this game, it's undeniable. It's like they created a normal balanced character, but then multipled every number by 1.3 of what it should be.
>>542858046>I'm one of the people who said there is nothing in his skills themselves that is that crazy and I still think thatActually let me amend this. The fact that Gotenks's ghosts can bodyblock non-AoE skills when they are following someone around is 100% bullshit. Absolute retard proof protection. Imagine if Krillin's mines acted as barriers too.Much like SS3's moving kamehameha they hid this critical piece of info until release.
>>542858046>>542858325Now you understand why this game doesn't have bans. Gotta let all the paypigs have fun with their overtuned p2w crap. Then next season when these characters become free they'll be nerfed into what they should have always been and then a new set of overtuned pay only characters will be introducedWe warned you about Toshi bro, we told you dog
>>542821547Where is the cuckoldry? I can't jerk off to this.
>>542847387The German one because i want to recreate the Aryan race.
>>542860427I think we have enough Indians.
I'm tired of watching 50 year old men.
The queen of /dbg/.
>>542863093You control what you type into pornhub.
>>542863327>Porn out of nowhere Sheesh bro. You ain't right.
>>542863374Sorry for owning you, bro.
>>542863434What you said says more about you than me. Go hug your mother.
>>542863569Man you are a sensitive little bitch.
>next movieSidelined by his father / clan, Cooler was exiled. He ended up in Universe 6, ruling from behind the curtains while his son Frost was the public face of his empire.After the Tournament of Power, Frost told his father about having been betrayed and defeated by "a Frieza" from Universe 7, prompting Cooler to take revenge against his spoiled younger brother and unify his empire between two universes.
>>542864206It's too late.
>next movielmao
Next movie: Female Cooler
>>542864608female coomer
>>542863093As in on Youtube or something?
>>542864608Women became so much less attractive after I learned they shit.
Fun fact there's a two week waiting period if you change your name in Gekishin. They only tell you this after you change it, thanks devs.
>>542864817So a self-ban for 2weeks?
>>542864608Too much ass.
>>542864608She poops from there
>>542865103Shouldn't you be at work, mick?
>>542865054Kinda. I was planing to change my name as I counted my wins and losses but now I'm stuck as W1L0
>>542863327Kek, porn addict BTFO
>>542864206Toriyama's final will was no more Super content.
>samefagging
>>542865262 Not right now she doesn't
What is she holding?
>>542864206this is actually pretty smart. like unironically a good way to have a canon cooler. Just hope they dont ruin his design like Broly or Bardock.
>>542867498>Trunks with long hair and a beardHoly fuark...
>>542867498A delicious ice cream sundae to reward Trunks for his hard work (She burnt it)
>get a the tank role>always, without fail, get the trunks/kale pickerThese heroes can't play in this lane. When will they learn?
>>542845501Results seem decent enough with the new character reference feature.
>>542873731BRAAAAAAAAAAP
>>542873731make her browse the computer
>>542864206Not a bad idea desu.>>542864608Send another female cold race member.
>>542871019Kale plays great in that lane, what are you talking about? Trunks not really, but he works even worse when paired with a tech.
>>542864608
>>542874220don't say things like that
what are the chances of a dbz reboot/remake?
>>542878984She shits from that ass.
>>542867498>Hey Trunks! Check this out!
>>542879979that's kind of hot
>>542880213Favorite character?
>>542881657Son Goku.
>>542863304/dbg/'s queen is The Boss, both xv2 and the mobile games/dbfz/'s was 21 until they died/dbs/'s was Pan I thinkAnd for some reason, android 18 is a /sp/ thread's unofficial soccer mascot
>>542881847Pan had one extremely mentally ill poster that talked to itself, it was never a common sentiment. /dbs/ never had a queen, just bunch of waifuposters shilling different girls.
>>542881847>/dbs/'s was Pan I thinkThis was never once true. /dbs/ was mostly anti waifufagging. But out of every female Pan was the most hated because of her association with the P*npedo.
>>542881847>/dbs/'s was Pan I think/dbs/ hated Pan because of the so-called "Panpedo" poster.
/dbs/ queen is 18 for obvious reasons.
>>542820301ArGin>>542821889I have both and Cell :)
>>542884895GameFAQs won.
Why would you ever pick this? Isnt he just a worse Piccolo?When I tried him, people just walked into me and there was nothing I could do.
>>542884895because GODllin is BOSS
>>542885410because he looks cool or somethingI just pick characters I like but luckily all the ones I like the most are pretty good
>>542885410Daily memories in my case.
>>542886434Quick Battle
>>542886568but what if I win and I get no elo...
>>542887284ELO for what? 4 man parties, high ranked afk bots and ..... nothing?
>>542887575for the rewards for A rank!
Apparently some french leakers say XV3 is in development. >Well in development>Numerous delays and some aspects have been completely redone from scratch>Graphically very beautiful>A playable version already exists>Release in 2027 or 2028They're notorious for being liars and attentionwhores though
>>542890196>They're notorious for being liars and attentionwhores thoughNiggers
>>542890196here's your big battle hour announcement guys. ssj4 daima goku will be the cover, btw.
>>542890196>>Graphically very beautifulEven if the leak was true, I don't believe it.
>>542890336Grim. Out of all the Goku's he looks the least Goku.
>>542890524Even GEEK-KU?
>>542890196kek if you thought SZfags chimped out hard over any criticism the game got, just wait until Xenoverse 3 gets announced and it's still ugly with no cool what-if content
>>542890767I forgot he existed. His gi isn't half bad but man does he not evoke the image of Goku.Geeko
>>542890989I think people wouldn't hate the design, if the adaptation was faithful at all to the story, which is wasn't. But you have a not so faithful design, that's Goku-esqe and then you have a an unreasonable facsimile of the Dragon Ball story, with slice of life highschool shenanigans.
>>542890970>Game about fixing timelines>NPCs talk about how there are infinite timelines>One even mentions an android demon war>You see absolutely nothing of that sort in game DB fans have such low standards.
>>542890196>>Release in 2027 or 2028I sleepso no games in 2026?
>>542890970I don't think Xenoverse is going to be ugly, but I have my doubts that it's going to look great. What I mean by that is that the gap in quality between 1/2 and 3 won't be that big, it won't look like what you'd expect a DB game in the late 2020s to look like is what I'm saying. As for the what-if content, I'm 100% sure we're not getting that and that's something I'm willing to put money on. A lot of XV3-wanters want a SDBH arena fighter and, while that'd be cool, it's never gonna happen. No Super Saiyan 4 Broly or Vegito, no Black Vegeta, no janemba absorbed Majin Buu, none of that.
>>542891226Super Divers removed all what-if content (outside of the Heroes card retrocompatibility), its very likely Xenoverse 3 will be 10 times more neuteredAnd I'm not even going to talk about them 100% retconning the demon realm into the Daipa version nobody liked
>>542887284You're disrespectful to your teammates who want to rank up by picking Bojack.
>>542890524That's literally GT SS4ku
>>542891364Most likely. There was nothing in 2021 and 2023 either, 2 on a row is already not bad.
>>542890989Goku has extremely iconic and extremely unadaptable hairstyle. LA Goku could never work on a visual level.
>>542864206>ruling from behind the curtainsI don't see Cooler doing this.He's a very hands on type of guy. I imagine him being a lot more personable than Frieza
>>542864206Did Frost even have an empire? From what I remember, in the anime, he was a celebrity hero-type in public and in the shadows was secretly creating the wars he saved.
>>542892442It was a criminal empire instead of a proper territory ruled with an iron fist with a focus on business and trade
>>542892701>Frost is a Columbian drug lordKINOOOOO
I don't want a Xenoverse 3, I want a Xenoverse offshoot with the same basic premise but in an Attack of the Saiyans style.
>>542892818More like a Mafioso. An Al Capone type guy.
>>542892996I don't want a Xenoverse 3 either. I want a total reboot like Sparking Zero.
>>542893061Scarface x Dragon ball when?https://youtu.be/Olgn9sXNdl0
I wanna re-cut the Tournament of Power to delete every peanut gallery scene except the ones relevant to hyping up Ultra Instinct and see how much it reduces the runtime. I bet it would cut it in half.
>official accounts immediately replying to FighterZ feedback>hotfix>promoting special interactions and introsOh yeah, FighterZ is staying 100%. I am expecting a new season annoucement during Battle Hour.
>>542890196>Xenoverse 3they can keep it unless it's going to offer as much content as Revamp. i don't care if it looks as good as FighterZ. i'm not going back to only having one transformation at a time, from a meager list of three forms, and hair that doesn't transform. eat my whole ass. if all these forms aren't available at launch except Ultra Ego, i'm not buying it.
>>542896442>I am expecting a new season annoucement during Battle Hour.MANIFESTING
>come back from a break>they fucking nerfed my whole team>my whole game strategy is completely ruined>everyone else gets significantly strongerHOLY FUCK FUCK YOU anyone got good points for SSB Gogeta? I hate how my synergy with Tien is useless because now everyone and their mom has universal option to do the stuff I used to do.
>>542867498energy capsule M
>>542897457also holy fuck this game is such a buggy mess it's pissing me off >straight up 50/50 if the game is gonna launch on pc or not>RED ERROR ALERT>can't find any fucking matches>please wait a moment.....
skill leveling order on cell? 2 > 3 > 1?
postan some other mockups i've seen a couple times. i don't like them as much as my own, but discussion fuel is discussion fuel. lol
anyone PC NA EC wanna play some matches?
>>542897194>No Super Hero Piccolo>no Gammas>No Duu and Kuu duo>no Gomah as a giant super armor characterGomah would be cool.
>>542898427>>542899441>Gomah, Zly and GOD Toppo on the same teamPlease......no.....
>>542864817Why lie anon? And they didn't add this warning recently either, I saw it since day 1.
>>542899441if they did a whole Super Hero and Daima Pass i think i would actually black out and then wake up in the rubble of Bamco HQ because i blew it up.
>>542900094Holy peak name I KNEEL.
wow really
>>542896456I'm the complete opposite. It's gotta look as close to FighterZ as they can possibly get it. I'm not a graphicsfag, but I feel like Anime games (particularly battle shounen based anime games) are like the only instance where visual quality should be a high priority. One of my least favorite things about Xenoverse is the fact that the attacks and transformations are all ugly to look at. Some of the attacks have gotten kind of better, but as long as the game looks like that, most of them and the transformations will never be. I've been wanting to be a Super Saiyan 4 since the first xenoverse game came out, but it'd suck majorly if the transformation sequence was just a generic charge animation, a jarring impact frame and a cut to a new form with a copy and pasted and stiff lego-looking Goku hair. It completely takes away the wow factor GT and Daima gave it, as well as what the other games accomplished. And they can keep it in that case.
>>542900731If you've got graphics over gameplay boy do I have some Sony exclusives to sell you. lol
>>542898396Why would you leave 1 for last...? It's his best skill. His 3's healing doesn't seem good enough too (Specially when compared to, say, Vegeta's skill 3, which largely does the same thing, but much better).
>>542899356yeah i like this more than yours anon>>542900731>and a cut to a new form with a copy and pasted and stiff lego-looking Goku haireverything else can happen but this is gonna stay, at this point i doubt they'll ever make new designs for forms/form hair. Like it's not even about it being slightly more work, it's just that them never doing it makes me think they straight up can't, for some legal licensing reason
>>542900731Speaking of transformation animations, how would they do Frieza's race? With the Saiyans, it's easy, all they need is a bit of hair physics and good face models/expressions. Frieza's race is completely different though. Like say they aren't lazy this time around and they actually give them multiple transformations like Frieza and Cooler got instead of just gold. Could they and would they be able to make a cutscene like pic related for them or would it be too many assets?
>>542901058it was my first game as him so I was asking yeah I didnt really like the heal that much
>>542898510>NASorry, I'm in EU.
>>542901491Oh, in that case, I'd advice to prioritize 1>2>ult>3. Also have Rildo with you. All tanks are better with Rildo, and Cell specially needs to it to escape when losing a battle (And since he's the worst tank when Imperfect, he will need to). Or maybe there is some tech that makes skill 3 work well, but I struggled to, and when facing other Cell players, it didn't help them out much either.
>>542901597okay this game has rollback wanna give it a try?
>>542901070That's okay. I've lowered my expectations of people's taste ITT since we became a mobile game general. lol
>>542901120Frost and Cooler are basically good basis's for bases. Hell, make a form a preferred style is a cool gimmick. Do you start from scratch then go to full like Frieza? Do you stand tall like King Cold? Buus are just either hot or retards.
>>542902790Sure, here: QYr7ppn5Anyone feel free to join.
>>542904432>Anyoneheh, carry me now...
>>542828642Super Duper Trunks
>>542904432what lobby?
omfg you meant the shitty fucking moba game FUCK
>>542905496>he came to a mobile game general looking to play a fightan gametry /fgg/
>>542905268Oh you meant FighterZ, I thought you meant Gekishin.
There's like 4 concurrent multiplayer games, you guys need to specify what you're talking about if you want to play something.
>>542905613I thought FighterZ had their own general so I didn't think he meant that game.
>>542901120I don't think fans would want this, nor would Dimps care enough to add it, but I think it'd help if they categorized the forms and gave each form assets related to it. For example, you'd have the berserker form and the features you'd get would be related/similar to third form Frieza/second form Frost.
>>542905798ITS GONE
>>542906516gee i wonder why
>team tank switches lanes when it's his time to defend to go after the boss at level 5I know bosses are important and all, but holy shit, you're basically serving a GoD for free just to get a better chance at a boss. I mean, we got him in the end, but the GoD lead ended up biting us in the ass in the end.
>>542905496/dbsg/ could support a general on its own, but /dbg/ would be dead again if it was the case. I suppose if everything else wasn't in a lull, we'd have split the thread.
>>542912124>/dbsg//dbgs/
>>542840337it's especially bad when there's not even a visual difference between the broly that TANKED the black hole and the loserlys that didn'the just has a random chance of not dying if you go off of what's presented to you
>>542836025This is the worst explanation I've EVER seen and you're gonna tell me Piccolo could sense and figure that out but not GOKU?Also no, Kakumei hasn't had a new chapter
There will be NO Season Pass 4 for FighterZ! No WHOmmas, no Orange Piccolo! no Beast Gohan! It's entirely being revived to shill for SS4ku and IT ENDS THERE!Battle Hour will give us trailer for him with a release date soon after and THAT'S IT!It angers me seeing Xitter hype themselves up for something non-existent, non promised, and then they're gonna CRY and WHINE that "wtf where's the S4 PASS???" after Daimaku releases and there will be silence again.
>>542840445Yes. It is.
>>542914592if theres a season pass at all it will be 100% daipaslop characters
>>542914592they do this EVERY TIME with dlc, they'll never fucking learn
>>542898427GOLD>>542897194Mold (except for Vegetto)
>>542898427Would never happen.>>542897194Unlikely but not impossible
>>542841482I still don't understand what the fuck vibrating the antennas has to do with stopping the time stop.Also particles aren't alive so why are they freezing?
>Get a devious little plan>Zeno is going to enemy team's tower>Put some mines there>Trunks saw me>Manage to escape>Expect him to have destroyed the mines>Our Vegeta is going there to attack the tower>Stay nearby to help>18 shows up to defend the tower>Suddenly they're on my mini map>Trunks didn't disarm my mines>Vegeta kills Trunks>18 is trying to escape, too low on HP, I kill her>Turns out they're the last team members>WinKek. Krillin is too fun.
I just rejected a tomboy today who is a DBZ fan, she flirted with me by touching me physically in college, she even rubbed her ass on me wtf>but why you fucking retard, a tomboy is rare, even more so a woman who is a DBZ fanshe only has male friends which is a red flag, I will not fall into this trap
>>542917349And that girl? Albert Einstein.
>>542814112I like that buttthat is a nice butt
>play Quick Match for daily memories>enemy team is sweating it up with Super Snowball>one of our guys goes AFK/running into a wall>start a surrender>we give up immediatelyHow the fuck do people in A rank not fucking understand this? I've had a ranked match where my teammates refused to surrender even though one of our guys gave up and went AFK.Also, "Quick Match" should mean quick match. 2 towers on each side and only 2/3 bosses.
>>542917349>she even rubbed her ass on me wtfthat's the real red flag to be honest
>>542917349Didn't happen
>>542890767I wish Goku would get this outfit in a game or something
This is why you people are still virgins
>>542918369
>>542918805 I'm embarrassed it took me so long to realise Geeko was Tom Cruise's faggot son in War of the Worlds
>>542918805Did you make that yourself, champ?
dont use dbfz pics for your meme RP shitposts
>>542919140i'm pretty sure those are the only two movies he was ever in, like i don't think i ever saw him anywhere else
>>542920484 It's funny how easy it is to turn 21 into the monster in some kind of erotic horror series like Species or some shit HR Giger thought up. Just extend her uncontrollable urge to feed to breed where she seduces and fucks men then eats them
I think Kaio-ken Smash > Kamehame.. It's instant damage, and you can move out the way of a beam so fast.
>two bots on my team>the only actual human with whom I cooperated has forsaken me at the end and refused to go after a boss that would have given as the 3bossKO and easily snowball into a victory>snowballs into a humiliating defeat instead since two of the enemy team jump me and the boss, killing me
>>542920487 Evolution probably killed his film career
>>542922454Praying mantis moment
>NIGGER PICCOLO MISSES A FUCKING SBC ON A FUCKING STATIONARY BOSS, COSTING US THE GAMEARE YOU KIDDING MEWHY EVEN PICK PICCOLO
Is there a good way to use Kale without constantly dying? Her tiny ass health bar really gets in the way of doing anything.
>>542925535ULT or fuck off.
>>542925535Your support or tank is supposed to take care of that while you do damage until your ult is ready and you wipe the enemy.
>>542926360>my hero is good but i need help in lane at all timesYeah Bojack's a good hero like that too.
>>542925535Don't die.
>>542927017Every hero should be like that, it's a multiplayer game.
That rank 1 guy you lot like to post here made another tier list and dropped 17 a tier, explaining the exact same shortcomings I've been warning about from the beginningHonestly everyone should just admit they were wrong about this shit character already, he's still overestimating him because he places him on mid tier ad opposed to bottom>b-but muh barriersThey last literally one second>muh pokeIrrelevant after lane>muh staggernever lands>MUH ULTCan't even kill level 1 training Vegeta at max level
>>542927017Bojack struggles even with help. Not even all the tanks have tools that make his ult any useful. Also, the game is a co-op, come on
>>542927623I don't care for your favorite eceleb or your crusade against a chinese game unit desu
>finally managed to drop to a 25% winrateneat
>>542928984Just stop playing when you start losing
>>542929341This loss streak is carrying over from yesterday and the day before. I am consistently getting the bad players, the ones who always end every match, the ones that don't push, don't defend, don't go for bosses and end the game with a 0/7/0 score. I don't even know what to do in my games anymore.
>>542929895You should probably take a break at that point.
>>542914592Daima is just ass and a nu-SSJ4 is just a desperate attempt to spike up sakes but they failed at that too lmao
>>542931245>He is still mad that his 'We won't see SSJ4 Daima going forward!' was hilariously wrong
>good damage>big health bar>can escape >can chaseshe is so perfect
>>542932363And she's cute
Would Goku count as neutral good or chaotic good?
As a dps main, I purposely leave my tank alone in a 2v1 fight so I can jungle farm.
>>542936609I'd prefer that over the kind of damage players I get playing as tank. Always over extending.
>>542932363 Give her muscles and fat tits then she's perfect
>>542936609As long as you stay behind the tank instead of jumping ahead so all the enemies can melt your health.
>>542937262That doujin was neat
>>542937262This artist is shit
>>542914592I honestly hope you're right because the odds of them adding anyone else I care about instead of a buncha post-Broly slop Toriyama approved from his death bed are very low.
>>542852753>Implying she ages in the anime
>>542937971 He's obsessed with paizuri, does good breast deformation and nice expressions, so I like his work for the most part
>>542913850>This is the worst explanation I've EVER seen and you're gonna tell me Piccolo could sense and figure that out but not GOKU?It's specially silly since the story talks like Piccolo always finds a counter to techniques, but the only time he ever did that was with Mafuba.>>542916016>I still don't understand what the fuck vibrating the antennas has to do with stopping the time stop.Vibrating them harder stops the time stop in a larger area too.
>>542941695>Have one fetish>Suck at depicting it in an erotic or interesting wayMan, that's crazy.
do we still play sparking zero here
>>542941941we don't even play xenoverse and breakers here anymore my dude and FighterZ forget about it they don't even have enough people to maintain their own general anymore all we got is people throwing in this unite clone
>>542941815 You seem mad at him. Did he fuck you over on a commission or somethng?
>>542942295TRVKE
>>542941771i have to wonder what the fuck kind of drugs salagir is on at this point that he thinks gast vibrating his antennas with no further elaboration is a perfectly good explanation to countering a time stop
>>542941941We play all DB games here
>>542941771>It's specially silly since the story talks like Piccolo always finds a counter to techniques,Which is almost as bullshit as 'Vegeta never underestimate his opponent!' since Piccolo's most defining feature was getting outsmarted by Goku at literally every turn.>>542941771>Vibrating them harder stops the time stop in a larger area too.What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? How does this even follow logically? I'm SO confused.>>542942648How are people reacting in the comments?
>>542941771>This time stop doesn't stop time, it stops life!>So I'll counter it by vibrating my antennas!>And I can counter it by vibrating even harder!Okay someone need to explain that shit to me, I feel like I'm having a stroke.It sounds like the fucking 'Underwear gnomes' plot in South Park.
>>542839731>>542840337>>542913460It's just based on the old fan idea of Broly's power continually growing which is why he's the true 'Densetsu no Suppa Saiyajin'. That's why he doesn't need to transform again and why him being left to his own devices causes his power to keep overflowing.Call it dumb but like 90% of the fanbase believed this prior to the DB coming back full time in 2013-15.
>>542943370>Broly's power continually growing which is why he's the true 'Densetsu no Suppa Saiyajin'.Ok but that's actually real. His ki does increase over time.
>>542943370>but like 90% of the fanbase believed this prior to the DB coming back full time in 2013-15Still do.
>>542943826Broly didn't get stronger after going LSSJ at any point in the movie, he just went 'Ah, my ki is overflowing!' and spammed a bunch of ki blasts without getting any stronger
>>542943370which'd be fine if it didn't make a point of saying that in most universes broly died but in that one in particular he didn't, so he just... overflowed harder? compared to every other version of him?
Broly is at least Majin Buu level. On feats alone he rapes everyone that's not Majin Buu+ level.>>542943967>my ki is overflowing>Ki = powerHe got stronger. He gains zenkais. He's stronger in movie 10 than in movie 8.
>>542944096>Ki = powerAndroid have infinite Ki so no.
>>542944096>He gains zenkais.He got ONE zenkai after almost dying like every other saiyan.
>>542942648Yeah, it's not even pseudo-DB like "I'm vibrating my ki in a specific frequency to counter the time stop". He's just vibrating his antennas... If someone has a vibrator and was using it during the time stop are they immune to it?>>542942897>Which is almost as bullshit as 'Vegeta never underestimate his opponent!' since Piccolo's most defining feature was getting outsmarted by Goku at literally every turn.Yeah. Even after fusing with Kami, Piccolo never learned to counter techniques even once.>How are people reacting in the comments?Some are defending it, plenty are confused. The website is a cult though. Any comments mocking it are deleted, and they're called trolls.
>>542944592>The website is a cult though.A retarded one at that, they all sound braindead.
>>542944592Forgot pic.
>>542944969>It make just as much sense as a normal well known and understood ability that Roshi said was easy when you're a master even before thatSomeone call him a nigger, please
>>542944096>Broly is at least Majin Buu level.>Dies to two/three SS1s>The weakest Buu stomps SS2 Vegeta casually>Piccolo says SS2 Goku/Vegeta/Gohan teaming up wouldn't be capable of beating him
>>542944087Generally that's just what most fans assumed would happen, yeah.If Goku kills him, then he's dead. If he doesn't, then Burori keeps getting stronger. Most of DBM's What If's are just the typical random chance fanfiction you commonly see.Like, Burdock's future sight isn't all encompassing, it was just a power specific to the fate of his species. That was it. But, DBM has it be all encompassing and constant because that's how fanworks at the time had it be, back when that was relevant in a lot of them.Other things>Vegetto never defuses (obvious)>Saiyajin babies get more powerful the more powerful the parent is (fan explanation for Goten and Trunks in the main timeline, now applied to Bra in DBM)>Immortality would suck (Goku's head getting stapled back on, trust me, I saw this shit before)>Freeza family politics (you have no idea how much this used to be in fanfction)>Boo is actually a pretty chill guy in all formsAmong many, many, many other things. DBM is less-so an original work of fanfiction and moreso a celebration of DB and its fan content of the time, and it only gets more and more outdated and odd looking the longer it goes on. It's a funny time capsule in that sense, I'm on the site right now and they're still doing shit I would've seen back in 2006>What if Gohan was abducted by Raditz>The adventures of [original characters] in the far off future of DB!>Absurdly long prequel about the Saiyajins that the author really cares about for some reasonShit like that. I think it's neat honestly, always had a soft spot for DB fanfiction, even the really bad and edgy ones.Will post something completely unrelated in a followup post actually.
>>542945292>Also lose to the same Goku who couldn't beat Cell
>>542945348(The unrelated thing) I remember this one Gohan fanfction that was insane from around 2009. Basically>Everyone hates Gohan for getting Goku killed>Bulma helps Gohan hide from everyone by giving him something to hide his ki signature>Vegeta finds him six years later and gets his ass beat, goes running off>literally everyone hates Gohan except Bulma by this point, and Vegeta beats Bulma because ???>Also, Chichi is abusing Goten and Gohan does nothing except angst about it>eventually they realize they need to beat the shit out of Gohan and make him come back to their side, so they formulate a plan>They resurrect Goku, who also hates Gohan, and the two declare that they will have an all out battle in a month>there's this whole thing with Goku training Goten in the Room of Spirit and Time (and abusing him, of course), and Gohan has his own secret entrance to it, and that's how he meets Goten>eventually recurits Goten>this makes Goku fucking RAGE>lots of dumb shit happens, basically every character that isn't Gohan or Goten dies>entire arc in the Kaioshin realm wherein Kaioshin made Chichi a meal slave and has everyone there to reflect on how badly they treated Gohan (none of them feel bad)>Goku and Vegeta fuse as a last ditch effort but Gohan is so awesome and so powerful that he wins>for some reason the third and final (discontinued (at the time (now deleted))) arc is Gohan getting sent back in time to before Goku was born>last thing I read was Gohan, Goten, and Burdock ruling over Planet Vegeta as its three kings before I got bored out of my mind as the rest of the story was Planet Vegeta politicsI really wish it wasn't deleted, it was incredibly funny and I feel my grasp on it in my memory continually fading away as life goes on. I legitimately read this about 15 years ago and that's scary.
>>542945292>Can't readKoyama said in that quote the only reason Goku and the gang ever "beat" Broly was because of plot and very good look.Broly 1: Goku got a 1000x plot amp from the kis he was donated and punched Broly while he was off guard (PTSD). Didn't even kill him.Broly 2: Broly completely clowned on a competent SS2 Adult Gohan who had trained. Goku coming back from the dead surprised Broly (notice how he says Kakarot in a confused voice) just enough for him to be caught off guard againBroly 3: Jobbed to water because chemical gooIn every single movie he toyed with everyone because of how weak they were. He never once went all out.Also, he destroys 1/4th of a Universe. Post any non zeno character doing that. That alone puts him WAY above Cell tier shitters.Done.
>>542943370>>542943826While Broly does seem to get stronger over time, I feel the effect is greatly exaggerated in Multiverse. In the first movie, Broly is a little stronger than Cell. While Broly was beating everyone down, he didn't get to the point that a couple of exhausted Super Saiyans and a Super Namek couldn't stop him, Goku kept getting up from his blows. In the second movie, Broly is SS2 level, but he actually got a standard zenkai from recovering from the damage he got in the first movie, I don't think LSS by itself gave Broly all that power. I feel if there's any pattern here, then Broly in his third appearance should just be SS3 Goku level at most. In any case, Multiverse believes that if Broly is left alone long enough, he'll obtained a power that absolutely nothing can stop, not SS3 Vegito, not Buu with the cast absorbed, nothing. I think that's going too far.
>>542885410Piccolo's all about single target deletions with his light grenade and special beam cannon, where his mines act as a way to make people easier to hit.Bojack by comparison is more of an area control guy, where the idea is that he constantly spits out mines and nets to assist with teamfights and scare people off. With the recent addition of Gotenks, I find that his net move counters the ghosts since it radiates damage that can make them go away.
>>542945348>Among many, many, many other things. DBM is less-so an original work of fanfiction and moreso a celebration of DB and its fan content of the timeAy I can respect that. I actually wanted to see something similar made today.Weird how salagir (or his "defenders") say how original and cool DBM's tournament is when all of the ideas are basic and now I hear they're downright not his.>>What if Gohan was abducted by RaditzSalagir has one of these? I love this idea desu.
>>542945887Nigga what
>>542945887>(none of them feel bad)That's the funniest part.
>>542945887>before I got bored out of my mind as the rest of the story was Planet Vegeta politicsReminds me of Saiyan Effect.
>>542945887Last, last thing, I was going through my old fanfiction account to look at my favourites/follows. A summary of the interesting things:>A story where Goku doesn't die to Cell's explosion, but is instead knocked into the REAL Hell where he suffers for 7 years until Goten and Trunks wish to go to hell for fun (2005, complete)>One wherein Gohan, after Cell, is told about Boo and a 'destroyer of worlds' threatening Earth in the future (Published 2004, orphaned)The destroyer of worlds is part of Gohan's harem I think, not a Beerus. Still really odd.>Goku and Chichi get divorced near immediately following their marriage. 8 years later she dies and Goku is forced to adopt Gohan in the midst of training for the Jinzouningen (2007, orphaned).This author actually came back in 2018 to add five chapters to one of their old 2007 stories and then never came back again.>Two separate fanfiction by different people where Pan travels back in time and near instantly begins a romantic relationship with her own fatherOne of them was pretty funny, Pan comes back from basically the end of GT except everyone died and instantly tries (and succeeds) at making out with Gohan. >The ultimate edgy fanfiction where Piccolo decides he's gonna mindrape Gohan instead of training him properly. Sadly stopped right before the chapter where Goku would find out about Gohan murdering Chichi during the Jinzouningen training years. (2010, orphaned)>Break Through The Limit (2012, completed in 2015)That faggot MasakoX ripped this off, including the part where Raditz gets with Lunch. Nobody does Gohan edgeshit anymore, which is probably why I stopped reading DB fanfic. Need my fix. >>542946716Saigo no Son is a fancomic that appears to be on the site and is just that. Haven't read it, just skimmed what they had in the comics section now.>>542947085Every DB fanfiction that focuses on Planet Bejita falls into this exact same trap and it's incredibly odd. They're meathead jocks.
>>542844758>NovelAIBrother.... Here's a link to a Coco LoRa. Learn what that is, how to gen LoRa sloppa, use WAI-illustrious-SDXL as your checkpoint, and profit.https://civitai.com/models/1915454/cocoa-amaguri-dragon-ball-super-dragon-ball
>>542947257>>>A story where Goku doesn't die to Cell's explosion, but is instead knocked into the REAL Hell where he suffers for 7 years until Goten and Trunks wish to go to hell for fun (2005, complete)KINOOOOOOOO
>>542947420https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2268257/1/The-Shadow>The Shadow>[COMPLETE!]What if Goku didn't die when Cell exploded but fell from the Snake Way to Hell due the explosion? What if Goten and Trunks are completely unaware of their Saiyajin heritage and the Z senshi's past? What if they made a wish to Hell...?Things I remember about this:>Hell is actually just hell, not a DB specific variant>Goku becomes a sort of on edge survivalist that does not talk like Goku at all>Chichi remarried and now Gohan and Goten have an abusive stepdad >Gohan is still a beta but now with a stepdad>None of them can escape hell because it messes with their ki for some reason>Doesn't go beyond the hell story, ends right before Boo would start, no sequel
>>542947257>Nobody does Gohan edgeshit anymoreYou enjoy edge in the ironic way right? Like it's fun to laugh at?
>542947257>The destroyer of worlds is part of Gohan's harem? Sounds funny.
>>542947751It's very, very funny. It's like easy junkfood, I could read an edgy Gohan fanfic for hours and have them feel like minutes. That's how I almost failed biology back in 09.
>>542947868We may be 10 years apart but we're quite similar.
>>542945904>Goku coming back from the dead surprised Broly (notice how he says Kakarot in a confused voice) just enough for him to be caught off guard againHe was laughing after seeing Goku, threw some more ki blasts to overpower them, and then quite clearly tried to push back against their kamehamehas once they unleashed their powers and was overpowered.>Broly 3: Jobbed to water because chemical gooAnd Goten and Trunks were casually handling him well whenever they actually worked together. Koyama's claims never lines up with the movies, and he claims it took until Beerus for Broly to be surpassed, when he never measures up to any Buu, most certainly not Buuhan, or any strong character from GT, and Koyama claims Broly is stronger than, about anyone pre-Beerus.
>>542948073Don't forget Hatchiyak was directly said to be stronger than Broly anyway.
>>542947257>>542945887I can't believe I forgot this one because I talked with the author a lot back in the early 2010s about it.Basically, it was Gohan has a son that's the same age as Goten. No time travel. You might realize the issue.The story was a lot, and it's actually complete, the entire Boo arc except with two OCs (one is literally named "Gohan Jr." and the other is an OC so can do a fusion), and it's really not that interesting as a story. What was interesting were the (since deleted) spinoffs.The really interesting thing about them was the one that specifically said in its description something like "The creation of Gohan Jr.", and that's what started my dialogue with this person, because I DM'd them saying "You can't post this man, you're gonna get banned". He didn't take that one down, FFN did (his account stayed up lmao). The story had a TON of spinoffs that went 3 chapters, got discontinued, and then deleted though. And then the guy stopped doing DB entirely and moved onto Walking Dead. Another one I really liked was this Gohan time travel one since it was basically entirely a Gohan and Kid Goku fanfiction where the two hang out 90% of the time. Really long, really creative despite rigorously following DB's storyline (time travel in the "maintain the canon" sense, not the "save the future" sense), and the author stopped uploading back in 2013. I asked them "Hey, you gonna come back to this?" and they said "Yeah, after my Pokemon fanfiction is done."That was in 2014. Today, they are still. Fucking. Writing. And that Pokemon fanfiction is done, but since then they've done about 5 million words worth of other Pokemon, Mario, Earthbound, and now Undertale fanfiction.I'd be kind of mad if I wasn't impressed by their sheer output (and how the only fanfictions that aren't finished are his DB ones, he only did two).
>>542948073>And Goten and Trunks were casually handling him well whenever they actually worked togetheNot very true. Broly only used his full power (as in had his aura show) once in the whole movie. Around where Goten got angry.Broly was surprised at Trunks intercepting his blasts before they expanded and grew more powerful. He was once again caught off guard.You're arguing against the guy who made Broly here.>"Goku must win against such an enemy, so he has no choice but to defeat him when his enemy becomes overconfident and creates an opening. There’s absolutely no way he’d be able to win against someone like Broli if he used more orthodox methods."Everyone on the Anime staff agreed with him too.You can say he's a shit character. You can say he's a shit edgy OC. You can't say he's weak. You still haven't refuted his feats being way better than anyone else's in Z btw.>>542948235Movie 8 Broly. Movie 10 and Movie 11 were much stronger.
How am I supposed to play uub in squadra? It feels like his rush attack stuff is too slow to really matter compared to all the burst supers that every other dps has.
Old spic shit has a charm to it. The pre making fun of cringe era internet was different.
>>542948726>Not very true. Broly only used his full power (as in had his aura show) once in the whole movie. Around where Goten got angry.It was still 20 minutes of Goten and Trunks doing a good job punking on him whenever they actually managed to work together.>Broly was surprised at Trunks intercepting his blasts before they expanded and grew more powerful. He was once again caught off guard.And immediately after that he threw some more ki blasts... And then his blast was completely overpowered, he threw some more and the kamehameha casually destroyed them. And then he made a barrier that didn't do anything to protect him or stop the attack.>You're arguing against the guy who made Broly here.The guy who made Broly also wrote Bio Broly where Goku doesn't sound at all worried about facing him again in hell.>You can say he's a shit character. You can say he's a shit edgy OC. You can't say he's weak. He's strong, just not Buu strong.>You still haven't refuted his feats being way better than anyone else's in Z btw.Broly's feat of destroying a galaxy is better than anything even Beerus did in BoG's movie (The whole "risking to destroy the universe from fighting" is from the anime adaptation, and somewhat the manga), Koyama still admitted Beerus is the stronger one. Character feats in DB never went beyond destroying a planet in the manga (Cell claimed he could destroy a galaxy at least). The androids are all factually stronger than Freeza, and never really did anything comparable to him destroying a planet (They never destroyed a city), but they did beat characters we know are stronger than Freeza, therefore, the androids are stronger than Freeza. Following that kind of logic, Broly isn't on Buu's level since he typically lost to characters who are weaker than their Buu saga counterparts (Gohan being the one exception in M10, but SS2 Gohan, and that father and sons Kamehameha, is still way below any SS3 level character).
>>542947264you mean prompt, right? cause that's all you're doing. your asking a chef to make you food and then claiming you made it.
>>542950947Anon, I didn't claim anything. All I did was direct someone someplace where they can gen better slop. Is this bait? You don't gotta rev up a speech for me.
>>542950756>It was still 20 minutes of Goten and Trunks doing a good job punking on him whenever they actually managed to work together.You're forgetting this specific Goten and Trunks pair are WAY stronger than in the normal timeline. They're trained since Movie 10 and thought they could beat Broly. Considering the fact they're ultra prodigies they might be able to. Bio Broly was a lot stronger than Movie 10 Broly because he was giga amed by the sludge that turned normal people into fighters who could perception blitz normal humans.>Cell claimed he could destroy a galaxy at leastSolar System*. Broly scales way above this.>He's strong, just not Buu strong.But I've proven he is. If he's that far beyond Cell tier fighters like (7 years of training) SS2 Adult Gohan AND has Buu tier multi galaxy destroying feats AND he has statements, he's that powerful. He lost to circumstance. He constantly toys with his opponents because he's a troll.>"Goku must win against such an enemy, so he has no choice but to defeat him when his enemy becomes overconfident and creates an opening. There’s absolutely no way he’d be able to win against someone like Broli if he used more orthodox methods."Literal direct statement Broly was just fucking around the whole time. It's obvious when you watch the movies. He effortlessly manhandles everyone.>Broly isn't on Buu's level since he typically lost to characters who are weaker than their Buu saga counterpartsThis line of thinking is ridiculous. Dragon ball characters lose to circumstance more than they lose to sheer power.Characters who lost to someone way weaker than them in the manga because of circumstance, from memory:RaditzBejitaKid BuuGotenksGoku (to Tenshinhan)Goku to that one Namekian offspring because he was hungryBroly is in this camp. He was never out powered at any point. It was always some bullshit or amp or literal deus ex machina.
>>542952171>All I did was direct a coke head someplace where they can get fentanyl.
Gotenks is such a good addition to the game bros I’m so happy our transsexual child molesting brethren finally have a character to play!
>>542953471>Cooler players out of nowhere
>Play quick battle>Too many teammates and opponents have bot-like behaviorIs this for real? Even quick battle has fucking bots?
>>542937262 So close, yet so far
>>542958707>those eyesMajin Caulifla?
>>542874590she could be looking at THIS thread right now...
Aios, if you're here, you left your crown in my bedroom
>>542959321Based
>>542959321
>>542959473>Claims Aios' crown is in his room>She's clearly wearing it >>542959321Lmaoooo
>>542959752then who was crown?
>>542959321 Shortstack time kais are my weakness
>>542958984 She was just feeling particularly evil in that moment
>>542959752That could be a photo from before she visited anon's room, anon
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>>542963297Zeno-sama, Forgive me for what I am about to do...
>Gotenks' ghosts chase you for a really long time>At top speed>If you just started running you can't escape>Perfect for players trying to run in the middle of a battleThanks, I hate it...
>>542891709>Super Divers removed all what-if content (outside of the Heroes card retrocompatibility), its very likely Xenoverse 3 will be 10 times more neuteredWhat will be the point then? It'll be just a Sparking Zero, only with different gameplay mechanics...
>>542964996>What will be the point then? CaC
>>542897194>No Raditz>No Debura >Bluer bejita>Daiper shit>Hero Shit>Women shitGROSS
>>542958453QB has more bots overall.
>>542879979stop with the lies, you will pay for this
>>542966048you sound kinda gay
>>542879979I'm not sure. Nahare claims they only drink liquids, so Glinds may not have assholes at all, and the only excretion is pissing.
>>542966123That just makes it more boring. It's no fun to just stomp braindead bots...
>>542947264the last thing you should be expecting from me is effort
>>542898427Bejita forma Kawaii isn't getting in, come on. If there is another Vegeta, it would be between Majin, SS4 and SS3.
>Notice a new message in-game>Advertising the discord server>Click on it>It's for the Japanese server>Despite them having a global serverJesus. That difficult to change the link for the messages?
Can i get the sauce on Xenoverse 3 being "rumored"?Apparently someone other than the usual retard that rumored it said it's coming?
Randomly saw thishttps://youtu.be/b6gV1s4s-SUCan the Androids keep up with these motherfuckers?
CHADgon CHAD is BACK!!!
>>542970068LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO!!
>>542970068They said SZ will get more DLC info in January, so I guess this is where.
>>542970068>nothingburger
>>542970068Morokeks and Granolmaos gonna get BTFO again, that much I can guarantee.
>>542970068>that picGTbros...
>>542969017It's from a frenchie. Take it with a grain a salt, Cliffeur said he's "now" sharing it due to new "confident" information.https://x.com/cliffeur/status/1978764619108749366
>>542971185>didn't get bad promo artist ""art""GT won.
>>542971251>bad promo artistYou mean the guy that made your shitty monkey transformation? Lol
>>542970068>>542970204Daima won again.
>>542971516How? It's over.
>>542970068>>542971516It's called GENKI DAMA tsuriDBShype is a retard of a leaker who can't spell.
>>542970068GTsissies.....
>>542970068IT IS TIME!!!!!
>DB Legends anime gete announced
>>542972697Nah, Gekishin Saquadra story about heroes from different timelines betrayed and trapped in Zeno's new game.
>>542971191Also SofianLeGEEK, another frenchie bn/dbz insider, is vouching his claims.Again, grain of salt. PajeetChronicles was promising Xenoverse 3 since before 2024
>>542970204>>542971191
Then:
>>542975992Now:
>>542970068The goku room IS REAL!!!
Now:
So is GT officially being memory hole'd now that there's a canon version or are they going to treat it as "well" as they treat the original dragonball from now on? calling bullshit on that xenoverse 3 line, there's no way in hell they still have DLC plans for 2 if they're planning on releasing a 3rd title a year later
>>542976828It has been theorized (coped?) that Future Saga is a lead up to XV3 which then would have justified its existence close to the release.
>>542975992SOUL>>542976094SOULLESS
>>542976094>>542975992GTrash lost.
>>542975992Mold.>>542976094Gold.
I lost as Dabura again...
Gotenks patch tier list just dropped.
>>542976094Legendary warriors.
>>542975992KINO>>542976094slop
>>542975992ZEROES!!>>542976094HEROES!!
>>542975992Hard Log>>542976094Wet Shart
>>542975992KEKYPOOPY!!>>542976094KEKYPOW!!!
>>542970068>New game:Mobile garbage or a Xenoverse/Sparking level game>New ProjectsDaima S2/kodomo ball shitDBany movie/remakeslopJust saved everyone's time speculating.
>>542978821Oh, you got bullied out of /zzz/ again?
>>542942709I was the only guy who posted about the card game in the past month. No, you're not playing all DB games here. Nobody cares for anything but the last thing.
>>542943037His antennas are dead apparently. I guess that's the line of thought and why Goku couldn't.
>>542979256Are your toenails alive? Is your hair alive?
>>542979591Don't be a retard, antennas can't be dead to have any function, they need functioning nerves.
>>542970068>>542970204How many times have you fallen fir this sane exact setup?
>TRANNYzilma
>>542975992We had it so much better before.>>542976094Mediocre.
>>542980151Glad my name is still in your head. Keep my dick on your mind.
>>542980072>IESLB
>>542947669>>Goku becomes a sort of on edge survivalist that does not talk like Goku at all>>Chichi remarried and now Gohan and Goten have an abusive stepdad >>Gohan is still a beta but now with a stepdad>>None of them can escape hell because it messes with their ki for some reasonOh.Why is all of that so common in those fanfics?
GTbros... It's OVER
20 bbcsmy unwashed assdo the math
>>542975992GTacos....>>542976094SuperGODS....
>>542980418Good one. Anything else? The old Yzilmi were much more creative.
I don't give a FUCK about SHITku
>>542980418>>542980481Stop pretending to be me, retards.
>>542980624.....'s cum.
>>542980395For some reason DB has attracted loads of assholes and edgelords who reject the inherently lightheared and hopeful attitude of the series
>>542980627I give you a Yzilmi-farner grade. You don't quite understand what you're doing.
>>542980676I can explain that, see here in america, we have associated DBZ with violence, badassery, and the occasional, "come back when you're stronger", so that message spread throughout the USA, Mexico has a very similar version too, more like "you fucked with me/my friends now you pay the price!" Boomers and edgy millennials (like me) want to be badass as "ssj" goku but not as nice and forgiving Goku, unfortunately the stigma there is 'showing kindness is weakness' contradicting the bad ass goku, however the original vision of Goku, strong for his friends and strong enough to forgive but also strong enough to see some enemies can't be forgiven, was lost
>>542979724Do they have any function though? Then Nameks have been shown to survive having their limbs cut off so I guess minor nerve damage via Ki to regen it after the tournament wouldn't be a big deal.Still dumb as hell but that's the only explanation I can come up with.
>>542981002I am an american, i just don't understand how they're such massive tastelets to go>you know what this series about perseverance and triumphing over adversity the Right way needs? Grimdark edginess!If i were to ever write a fucking fanfic the most serious thing i'd ever put down would be visiting Grandpa Gohan's grave, shit should never go beyond bittersweet
>>542981401This was the 2000s. Linkin Park was in full swing. They made everything edgy.Blame Naruto and bleach.
>>542979165that's because nobody ever played the card game, it has nothing to do with the rest
>>542981002>"you fucked with me/my friends now you pay the price!"How did they come at it?I think it was mostly life or death situations where even the most egoistic (Vegeta) people would help out.Of course Goku isn't that, but there is nothing directly about that besides Krillin's death, which is not this anyway because it happened all in the same situation, moment and place.In a typical "you've hurt my friends" situation the comeback is usually in a completely different time and place.>see here in america, we have associated DBZ with violence, badassery, and the occasional, "come back when you're stronger", so that message spread throughout the USAI can see how that came to be though. You don't need to be interested in the entire thing to stay, and then the creatives from that group just reworked it for their "tastes".>unfortunately the stigma there is 'showing kindness is weakness' That's weird. Showing kindness is hard, therefore it's a weakness? What kind of logic even is that? You quite literally need to be stronger to be able to afford kindness in any situation.
>>542981401Tastelets have not yet mastered their...taste and can't reliably find a deeper meaning, I.E. they can't find Gohan/Krillin's power level and rely on the scouter
>>542981002The old bad Z dub contributed to this phenomenon. And Dragon Ball with its different morality took some time for getting used to in a 90s America. Sometime around the 2010w the correct version of dragon ball started to be understood.
>nothing about cocksYou suck as Yzilma.
>>542981487Naruto wasn't really edgy with characters like Rock Lee and Might Guy running around.Bleach had Kon too.People pretended they're both overly edgy with their AMVs.
>>542981584I can't fully explain it but we tend to have the same idea>goku got mad and unlocked super saiyan after krillin's death, he cared for his friend so much, he lost it and was gonna punish (FUCKING KILL!!!) frieza for itthe strength needed to protect friends or family, that taught kids like me at the time, that its ok to lose your shit to protect your friends, the message lost but the most basic concept was seen with the eyes so that's what stuck, does that make sense?>on kindnesswe're taught, or were, to not show that 'weakness' I.E. crying/fear/asking for help, (this may also be connected to vegeta), and to harden yourself, but there's also a fear of showing kindness to someone and getting burned/taken advantage of too, you eventually grow out of it and realize way too late its up to you to ask others to help you become stronger, look at gekishin players for example, refusing to give up even the match is all but lost, that 'giving up' is a weakness and the stubborn belief that you can overcome it/force a win takes over, but in reality, you'd probably have to party up and really communicate with your team to fight it out or die trying, also self-sacrifice to save others is really fucking cool (when done right, like vegeta, not like the racoon in over the hedge), just wanted to throw that in>>542981734After the second (funi not toonami?) Dub sure, kids were a little older so the messages were a little more clear, like why vegeta wanted to become stronger even if he had to 'ask' babidi, as opposed to a kid seeing it as 'so mad he wanted power at any cost'
>>542980676it's simple>be a kid, still pure>like <thing>>quickly grow up, as going from 7-8 to 12-13 only takes a few years after all>everything around you says you can't like <thing> as you did in your pure form like before>you start telling that yourself, "i'm old now so i have to like grown up things">but you still like <thing>>"then <thing> will have to change alongside me!"so you either do that (which is already kinda autistic), shun <thing> almost completely (the "normal" thing to do), become a manchild or walk the fine line between liking <thing> as it is without being autistic about it.And i say <thing> cause this actually happens for pretty much anything out there, minecraft porn existing is proof of the "it will grow up alongside me" effect cause there's no other reason for it to be a thing otherwise
>>542982629>cause there's no other reason for it to be a thing otherwisebro has never heard of rule 34
Even at his most angry Goku still spared FriezaEdgyku is just another flavor of fanfiction from spic savages, like womanizerku
>realize way too late its up to you to ask others to help you become strongerholy shit
>>542982629>"then <thing> will have to change alongside me!"Yeah but the point is that you should age out of being an edgy teenager and go back to appreciating the series for what it is, understanding its own merits and flawsI could get someone up to the age of, like, 20 writing ultra edgy shit but by the time you turn 24 you should start realizing how childish adding random edgy shit can be in its own right.
>>542982923no that's the point, people that played minecraft when they were already "older" never ever thought of that, it's only those that played it as kids and grew up with it that eventually did. That's why there's porn of everything, cause at any given time there's a kid interested in something, like a game series, that by virtue of growing up is also about to look for porn and stuff like that, and one thing kids do is put together everything they like>>542983104i don't disagree, but it's just hard for some to let go of that. I guess it ties into what other anons were talking about, the whole "showing kindness is a weakness" and whatever, and edginess is like the immediately opposite thing they can think of. This is also people living their whole life, and every little thing, like some kind of battle where they're the supercool protagonist and everyone else is the evil evilman, they can't just be "normal" about anything they do
>>542980402I really am curious if super returns if theyre gonna use super saiyan 4 in it and how they'll justify it when goku has the god forms and ultra instinct. I mean that autist Toyotaro planted that seed that Goku's personal ultra instinct could be different from what he's using now and so he could combine it with ss4 to become a ultra super saiyan silver monkey of sorts if they really gonna pull that lever
>>542975992>>542976094GTKino won.>>542976828No, corpos are never memoryholing anything.
>>542983859>god formsJobber forms.
>>542981584Being kind to your enemies is directly tied to Christianity in the west. >>542982629>minecraft pornI forgot this existed until you talked about it.>>542982954True. Most people don't actually like Goku as he exists. They like the made up version of Goku in their heads.>>542982539The Kai English dub is the only accurate dubbing of Z. Kids who grew up on that will have a much better understanding of what Dragon Ball is.>>542983859It would be the ultimate fan service thing, and Iyoku loves fan service.
>>542984726That's Trunks
>>542978081I don't know why these tier lists keep putting Android 17 up so high and Cell so low.
>>542976094Now let's look at the sales for the figures, the real moneymaker.
>they're putting daima into every single game because it flopped i swear literally_who88 on twitter told me so!!
>team keeps voting no on the surrender vote over and overYEAH GUYS WE'RE REALLY COMING BACK FROM THIS ONEfucking idiots
>>542986561>>they're putting daima into every single game because it floppedYup yup. Daipa is shit so they have to push it to make people like it but they still fail because people prefer OG SSJ4 lol
>>542985312Pride. They decided early on that 17 was hella op just from his trailer and that Cell was shit because they chose the wrong skill order at first and now they can't admit they were wrong (they are the best after all, thet can't be wrong)
21 flopped, that's why they don't port her to anything.
>>542987084>Gundam beat dragon ball Yup.
Gekishin had to give out daipaku for free to every player lmao, very organic
>>542986783Sometimes i vote no just to make other people suffer the match longer
>>542987369The monkey should fear the robot.
>>542986783What's the point of surrendering at this point? You're just being a dick to your enemies. Surrender makes sense if there's no coming back but it will still take considerable time amount to play things out
>>542988293>What's the point of surrendering at this point? You're just being a dick to your enemies.Oh nooooo I'm being such a dick to the people who are obliterating all the bots on my team by surrendering before they can break down the dragon shell.>Surrender makes sense if there's no coming backAre you confused or something? We have one tower with 10% HP left in that screenshot while they have all of their towers up stillThe match was never even remotely close.
>>542984813>>>542981584 (You)>Being kind to your enemies is directly tied to Christianity in the west.How so? It's not a cultural thing to be kind.The West as in The USA or the west from Asia? How do you call EU?
>>542988629Oh nooooo I'm being such a dick to the people who are obliterating all the bots on my team by surrendering before they can break down the dragon shell.Yes, be a good sport instead of chimping out just because you got your ass handed to you, there are perks to breakkng that shell and grabbing the ball.>Are you confused or something? We have one tower with 10% HP left in that screenshot while they have all of their towers up stillIt's you who appear confused as you skipped the part after "but". This match will be over in half a minute, you're not saving virtually any time by surrendering.
>>542989465Nah, fuck you.I'm not going to waste my time in a match that can't be won just because you want to play in your little sandbox more and farm more kills on bots.I couldn't care less whether breaking the shell is part of your battle pass missions.
>get legendary>fucking gotenks intro instead of frieza finisher or introI DONT HAVE GOTENKS YOU NIGGERS
>>542989670Seethebro, you're saving next to no te at this point. I'm sorry your teammates take the losses less personally than you and won't join your chimp out.
>>542986783Just afk, there is no penalty for it
>>542989905>You're saving next to no time at this pointYou are dumb. The match could have been over 3-4 minutes before it actually did if the teammates used the surrender feature.Over time this adds up to a lot of lost time of just fucking around in useless matches that are clearly already over. It's beyond obvious in this game when a match has begun to snowball out of control for one team.I hope your opponents continue to surrender before you can break the dragon shell for your battle pass mission.
>>542988703Europe + the Anglo Sphere = the westEast Asia = Oriental = the East>How so? It's not a cultural thing to be kind.In western culture sparing your enemies is heavily associated with Jesus' teachings. Christianity was seen as kind of lame and for old people during the period in which those edgy fanfics were popular. Christianity is rising amongst young people today.
>>542990252I was talking about this specific example you gave when you save next to no time already. Also, I guess it shows something about you to assume I'm pointing this out out of my own self-interest. Considering other people never crossed your mind.
>>542990474>I was talking about this specific exampleDid you miss the part where I said "voting no on the surrender vote >OVER AND OVER<"? It was like 3 minutes of trying to get them to surrender when we had nearly no towers left and every lane was lost, and we had lost both Ribrianne and Jaco and they had Triple Boss KO TWICE.That screenshot was just the latest one they voted no on.I am not wasting my time playing out these matches to please random opponents on the internet, most likely some Mexicans in a favella, who I will never even speak to. Maybe once you grow up you will understand the value of time more too.
>>542987084>>542985964Toei is fucking mental to think anyone would buy merch of some retarded lobotomized midget sticks, gay clowns and fat retards featured in daimaWhat kid will look at these and say "I want the gay midget clown".
>>542990818>What kid will look at these and say "I want the gay midget clown".Lots of kids bought Vegeta toys though
>>542991191Kek
>>542991191no...
>>542991191What's the score?
>>542991191jej
we're a slight bit past fanfic talk but I would like to add my two cents about stuff I always see in fanfic. Something that's always annoyed me is when people try their hardest to keep the entire cast relavent when the plot of Z struggles to do that at the best of times. Especially when the main character is an OC character, Goku just entirely ends up being barely relavent because people want to focus on tien or yamcha getting strong instead. Not to mention a lot of fanfic writers have an especially rosy view of vegeta, so ignore things like him not getting full power super saiyan in the time chamber or him crying against frieza
>>542990818that argument doesn't really work when there's retards buying funko pops in droves
>>542970204>>542970068Most DB announcements (anime) have been reserved for big known events, like Daima's press tour was basically just NYCC, and I think Super Hero got announced at SDCC.If two "major projects" are being announced, I imagine it will be game/gacha related. It could be an anime, but it seems out of step for anime stuff to be announced outside a major convention at this point.
>>542981401I've only ever written one DB fanfic and it was a silly 10,000 word jaunt about Gohan going to the Tenkaichi Budokai that Satan won pre-Cell. I did try my hand at one of the more edgy types but I got burnt out before finishing the first chapter. I don't really get the western edgy perspective of DB, even to the extent of the overtly sexual western fanart (like the only of Kuririn gripping #18's ass while hugging her, stuff like that), it feels out of step with how I view the series.That's honestly why I kind of appreciate DBM. The idea I got while reading it seemed to be that the universe of DB was perfect as-is, and all these What-Ifs are missing the heart of DB- that being Goku. That's also why I like the Vegetto & Bra storyline, since the easier solution just results in a fighter that's all the worst traits of Goku and Vegeta mixed together, I find it neat. (DBM also played into my reading of Mirai Trunks' story about not being 'how to defeat the artificial humans', but rather, 'how to bring back Son Goku', and it's moreso about Gohan and Trunks inheriting Goku's spirit, that being a constant feeling of hopeful optimism when he is around. Trunks basically only participates in the DBM tournament for fun and then leaves early because this whole thing isn't that important to him, as while he would love to have his allies back, the world can keep going without them so long as that hope is there).That's also why the Goku Black arc fucking sucks
>>542992629That's why for my upcoming DB fanfic, I just cut to the chase and retire a lot of characters from the Z-Fighters and replace them with new characters, OC characters included. DB has a bloated cast full of deadweights who don't contribute to the plot or outlived their usefulness. I don't even know why Toriyama kept them around besides nostalgia. >Krillin hasn't been relevant since Namek, was just the senzu bean carrier at best and a liability at worst in the Android arc>Yamcha peaked as early as the Pilaf arc and was always getting Worf'd to show how hardcore the next opponents were>Tien has been a disappointment after his introduction>Chiaotzu is the sidekick of a sidekick>Roshi's character arc ended at 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, only reason Toriyama brought him out of retirement is out of nostalgia even though it raises a lot of questions to why he didn't train and help out in Z>Pilaf Gang are only there because Toriyama felt nostalgic over the optional prequel even though no one unironically likes them>Android 18's only accomplishment is breaking Vegeta's arm then she was a damsel in distress and later reduced to Krillin's boring trophy wife>Videl seems to like martial arts, but when she got her first real taste of fighting bad guys who aren't bank robbers, she took a backseat and became Gohan's boring wife
>>542987084The hell is Gundam? Apparently it's tripling DB's score but somehow I haven't even heard of it? Are you sure it's not a japan-only list or something?
>>542992629>>542994681People need to realize that Toriyama's thing was cycling characters in and out when needed.If you break DB arcs into main casts, it's>Hunt For The Dragon BallsGoku, Bulma, Oolong, Yamucha, Pu'er, >21st Tenkaichi BudokaiArc type changes, so Bulma, Oolong, and Pu'er are dropped to the side cast to focus on the fighters.Muten Roshi becomes a main character alongside Kuririn, while Goku and Yamucha remain.>Red Ribbon ArmyIt returns to an adventure arc where Goku goes back to meeting new people, this time on his own.Eventually Bulma and Kuririn resume main character status, and as it diverts back to combat, Yamucha is cycled back into the main cast (briefly).>22nd Tenkaichi BudokaiGoku, Yamucha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, and Roshi are the main cast. Once again, non-fighters are cycled out to background/side status.>Piccolo DaimaoCast is shrunk down to Goku, Tenshinhan, and Roshi, as it's about the immediate aftermath of the tournament.Yamucha and Chaozu are now at the periphery, even though Chaozu dies in this arc.>23rd Tenkaichi BudokaiGoku, Tenshinhan, Kami, Yamucha, Kuririn, PiccoloKami just substitutes in for Roshi.>SaiyajinGoku, Gohan, Piccolo, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Yamucha, ChaozuThe cast seems larger here, but that is because most of these guys are being cycled out for the next arc- including Goku.The writing of all of these guys will be exhausted by the end except for Gohan. That's why they all die (and when they come back, they don't do much anyways), so this is about trimming the fat before a big battle arc. >FreezaGohan, Bulma, Kuririn, VegetaGoku really isn't a main character here, and the arc narrows to the point where half of the main characters have only been in the story for about 5% of the run by this point. Toriyama keeps characters around basically just to do this cycling in thing, but Tenshinhan, Yamucha, and Chaozu are supplemented by Piccolo, Vegeta and Kuririn, who all fulfill similar roles.
>writing fanficsAre you all women or something?
>>542970068The SAVIOR of the DRAGON BALL FRANCHISE is COMING.
>>542990308>Europe + the Anglo Sphere = the west>East Asia = Oriental = the EastI see.>In western culture sparing your enemies is heavily associated with Jesus' teachings. Christianity was seen as kind of lame and for old people during the period in which those edgy fanfics were popular. Christianity is rising amongst young people today.It irks me that one of fundamental human values gets attributed to some religion now.
>>542994681>I just cut to the chase and retire a lot of characters from the Z-Fighters and replace them with new characters, OC characters included.This is exactly what Toriyama did. This is a completely normal thing to do. Not doing this is hurting Dragon Ball as a whole.Compare these guys to the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai squad and it's night and day.>>542995378I love Turleshan. Is there anything that involves him? He is so cool looking.
>>542959503she is having a rough day on the internet
>>542970068>>542970204It's OG DB's 40th anniversary. To me, it looks like a remake will be announced.
>>542996284Why? OG DB has already been fully covered along with Z. A remake is only justified for anime that never completed, like Ranma, Urusei Yatsura, JJBA and HxH (still incomplete!!).
>>542995919>I love Turleshan. Is there anything that involves him?There's some older fanfiction about it, but they're all a standard play on "What if Tullece kidnapped Gohan" a la the Raditz fanfiction mentioned earlier. One fanartist I'm fond of did a few short webcomics on the idea, but not an actual narrative, ricelover112. Most of their art is just Gohan fluff though. I remember this story being popular back in the day, and shockingly it isn't fully abandoned- started in 2012, but the last update was less than a year agohttps://www.fanfiction.net/s/8351998/1/Turles-TriumphBut again, there isn't much in the way of this niche specifically. In fact, a decent amount of the fanart is probably two specific artists that do Gohan x Tullece yaoi.>>542996284I detest the very idea of a DB remake as it will be voice cast changes all while keeping a very aged Nozawa (seriously, listen to just her attempts at "Kuririn no Kotoka?" over the years, it's heartbreaking) occupying the main character role.But, a DB remake means>new fans making new shit>more figures and plushes for OGDB stuff>maybe some new character/image songs >revitalizing the Japanese doujinshi market for DB, seriously, 90% of what's made today is by Americans and MexicansSo I would be fine with it at the end of the day.
>>542997110I have a lot of Gohan and Tullece art since I'm a massive Gohanfag and Tullecefag, but I won't inundate the thread with it. I just like this pic.
>>542997110>>revitalizing the Japanese doujinshi market for DB, seriously, 90% of what's made today is by Americans and MexicansI can't name 1 DB doujinshi or fancomic made by an american. It's all french people right now fsr.Multiverse, A New Hope, Kakumei, and Bloodlines are all French made.
>>542996828Because the adaptation is heavily padded and has very uneven technical quality. More faithful adaptation at Daima quality would be more than justified. That's why One Piece is getting a remake before the original adaptation even ends.
>>542997727I meant the porn scene specifically. I only know of one American DB fancomic and it's posted entirely on deviantart and seemingly has no real story beyond Burdock hanging out with the artist's OC.
>>542996828Isn't OP getting a remake? Sailor Moon also got one, if I recall correctly.Besides, we live in the age of remakes, why wouldn't the most popular anime not get one and start the trend (if it would be indeed the first one, as you imply)?>>542997110Meh don't really care about this part. I think she was half decent in Daima.
>>542997919Ahhhh. For hentai the only jap guy that's active I can think of is Yamamoto. Rikka-kai is a mexican I think.A remake would turn Dragon Ball from a "legacy" series into something more at the forefront of culture. I'm not totally against it. I want to show my mother the DB Anime but man it has aged poorly
>>542997871The only criticism I can accept for not wanting a (properly animated) remake is the lack of blood.
>>542997110>But, a DB remake meansyou forgot the most important thing: no more of this shit
Dragon Ball Z looks great. There is no need for a remake. Having 5 frame animation looks for fights is acceptable.
>>542998367>no more soulyeah
>>542998530nothing that is even remotely related to Uchiyama's scribbles is soul
>>542998126The last time I checked I actually got a vision of the future of DB porn- I saw a Japanese Goku x Yajirobe doujinshi set after Piccolo.And it was really really good.
>>542997871>>542998091SM got a remake because the 90s anime diverged so much from the manga after about halfway into the first arc and didn't completely cover the manga. And OP to make the story more accessible by condensing the arcs and tightening the pacing, the Toei anime is unwatchable at this pointToei would just do a Kai-like recut of OG DB, since it's cheaper than a full remake or reboot of OG DB and all it needs to do is cut the filler
>>542998771>the Toei anime is unwatchable at this pointIs this not the case for OG DB? Not necessarily because of pace, but because the animation has aged badly for the modern viewer's """standards""".
>>542998091Godzawa is 90 next year. I think to faithfully adapt the manga, you need roughly 130 episodes (average of 4 chapters/60 pages per episode). And if you want to keep the quality, you won't do it as an ongoingI think we're looking at 5-10 years. Bless her health, but it's a long term project, seems like a huge bet to keep her.
>>542999494Didn't she agree to lend her voice to AI slop, or was this some made up shit? They already have all the lines from the OG, that's the easiest AI job ever.
>>542999652that and she also has trainees to impersonate her. I think they all do, given Bulma got a new VA pretty quickly
A remake is the best time to replace nozawa with a successor. We shouldn't be keeping geriatrics in a series like this. For Dragon Ball to truly become transgenerational there needs to be a complete passing of the torch at some point.Or we could end the series (never happening).
>>542999792Better than what we got
>>542999780I agree to this, but I doubt she would just step aside easily.>>542999494Honestly, I was thinking Pre-Z remake only, because they might still deem Kai as good enough.
>>542999792remove the tail too as it had literally nothing to do with the oozaru form anyway
>>542999780>>543000083ye the main point is that she herself wants to keep doing it, they're not really forcing her. Like she outright said she wants to keep doing it until she physically can't, no matter her age
>>542999792If Daima wanted its own identity it should have had something original.
>>542999792Daima fucked by not taking the chance to give the form golden hair/fur - I will die on this hill.
>>543000469They would've had to get rid of the iconic and marketable orange pants for it to look good. You know they're never getting rid of Goku's orange gi.
>>543000632I like the orange gi but I don't think it ever meshed that well with the blonde hair - only time it looked great was in Namek, and that's because he only had the blue undershirt on.I always used EoZ gi on Goku (End) precisely because of that.
>>543000128Daima at its core isn't even original.
>>542995494Doubt it, we can't have nice things
>>542999792Seems like a simplistic design Toriyama would have actually went with.
>>543001346The fact that Toyotaro is not there is a dead giveaway, besides I don't think the legal stuff with Shueisha was solved.
>>542995494Meerus-Moro was low angel level right?
>>543001253meant for >>543000324
>>543001480Not in that form, but when he fused with the planet he had all of Merus power plus his own plus Earth's so yeah, should be stronger than Merus.
>>542995494Has there ever been a more overrated arc in DB than Moro's? At least most agree Granolah was shit, yes?
I also saw, the event features Akio Iyoku and Masako Nozawa. Considering the ongoing battle between Iyoku and Shueisha, it's very likely not a remake since Shueisha holds ownership to the original manga just like they own Super (which is why we haven't a Super 2). Iyoku can make new anime without Shueisha's permission like he did with Daima, though.
>>543001435 Toei weren't animating Toyoshit before Tori died, so why the hell do you for some reason think they'll do it once "the legal stuff with Shueisha is solved"
>>543001346>nice things>more DBSNot a single manga arc has been good, and honestly, Granolah is the worst arc of DB in general.> “If the Cell arc had been created with the same sort of mindset as this Granolah arc was, it’d be more akin to Trunks shows up, says there’s gonna be this Cell Game in three years. They all show up to the ring, Goku starts fighting Cell and gets his heart disease, Piccolo fuses and fights and he fights Cell for a bit and then loses, and the whole thing would be that they’re at this ring and they fight for a year.”
FRIEZA IS NOTHING COMPARED TO ME!
>>542995494Doubt they'll cover Moro. Iyoku split from Shueisha and created his own company called Capsule Corp Tokyo and both companies are now both batteling over who owns and controls the IP of DB. This is why Toyotaro cannot release anymore manga chapters and Toei are prohibited from making new movies or even a new anime series based around it.Iyoku made Daima while he was still a part of Shueisha. Now's a bit different.
>>543001932>Granolah is the worst arc of DB in generalI agree that Granolah is shit but it's not as bad as shadow dragons. I hated a lot of what Granolah introduced as a retread of Goku "discovering" his saiyan identity. But at least hating something is more than the complete boredom I got out of black star
>>543001903I think both of Toyotaro's fanfic arcs are shit, but I wouldn't put it past Toei to adapt them, if given the chance. I hope it never happens, of course, so I can relish in the pain of Toyotards across the web.
>>543001565I wonder if Black Freeza is stronger than that. Is Beerus? He didn't seem that afraid. Is UUB?
>>543002152black star* didn't mean to say shadow dragons. I think half of shadow dragons is bad but at least it has a couple of cool things As an aside, something I haven't seen people bring up much about Moro arc is how they treat Buu. He's one of the most unique fighters in the entire series and every time he fights it's a visual treat, even in Moro toyotaro came up with some really fun fight ideas to use with him. Then he gets written out of the arc right at the start and never does anything again
>>543001932Where is this quote from? It more or less described a Z movie. The Granola arc is pretty much just a Z movie. A villain is introduced and the whole arc is one giant fight. There's nothing super wrong with that formula. That's what the Broly movie is.
>>543001932I am not sure about Granolah being the worst, but it's certainly in the bottom tier. I still can't understand all the fuss people make about Moro on every new announcement.
>>543002464MistareFusion said that on a podcast discussing the arc
>>543002570I think people just want super to continue in general, even if moro and granolah aren't great there's always hope the arcs afterwords are better. Super survived the TV versions of BoG and the especially horrendous TV RoF after all
Moro is the (second) best DBS arc, not that that's a saying much. The japanese love it. They rank Goku vs Moro as high as some fights in the original manga.>>543002737Yeah pretty much this. People are desperate. Toyo's arcs are plain average but they're better than nothing.
>>543001932Granolah also suffers from the same problem as SH. What the fuck where they thinking letting Shenron hand out UI level power-ups for free?
>>543002570>>543002737It’s more the “hype” crowd really. The type of people who seriously talk about shit like Goku vs Saitama, call Goku “Kakarot” if they’re a Vegetafag, use words like “feats”, shit like that.They’re not there for writing, they’re there literally to watch two guys punch each other. They’re the people who talk about how hype Goku vs Jiren was or are excited for Black Freeza purely because they want to see Vegeta beat Freeza so he can have a new “feat”. They’re literally uninterested in the actual writing, this series may as well be YouTube videos and twitter jpgs for them.
>Ran out of zenii againHell
Nothing after Buu is canon and if it's not canon I couldn't care less about it.
>>542985964Didn't people said that they hate the design of Gogeta in daima because of the pants?
>>543003012Honestly, anon. I'm here for the fights as well, honestly. Dragonball was never some well written masterpiece in the first place,as toriyama himself admits he just made it up as he went, but it doesn't need to be because it's backdrop to setup the fights. Even within this framework I still think moro is pretty lame after he loses all of his unique space wizard feel and just becomes another generic villian
>>543002948At least there's a price for Granolah's wish... Even if it's completely ridiculous he and Gas got new powers from it. Granolah even randomly got one of Moro's powers.
>>543001798Daima wasn't dome withput Shieisha permission.
>>543002896>They rank Goku vs Moro as high as some fights in the original manga.This is a misconception. The votes were split across 3 pools and the most iconic battles were all facing each other in the same pool.For instance, Piccolo vs Goku was in the same pool as Goku vs Freeza (and it still managed to rank second, somehow), Goku vs Vegeta, Gohan vs Cell, Goku vs Majin Vegeta, Goku vs Kid Buu. It ended up ranking 11th due to that, behind Goku vs Grandpa Gohan, at 9th. Goku vs Raditz fight was 45th, which is too low
>>543001769ToP is genuinely dogshit outside of a few fights
I'M NOT GOING CRAZYSUPER 17 NOT BEING IN SZ WAS JUST THE BEGINNINGI WON'T STAND FOR ERASURE
>>543003937Agreed, but it was fun to watch on a weekly basis. Still think Granolah is worse. Moro's maybe slightly better.
>>543003937it's probably the weakest full tournament arc in the series but I think the highs of it were so high that it makes up for some of the lows. Granolah and Moro's highs dont make up for their lows, comparatively.
>>543003195TRVKE
>GT is what 90s Toei thought DB+DBZ was like>Super is what 2010s Toei thought DBZ was like>Daima is what 2020s Toei thought GT was like
>>543004217>They're getting progressively less accurate
>>543002684Okay, this statement is admittedly not wrong, but quoting an eceleb is a sudoku-tier offense. You must end yourself.
There are only two canons:Option #1, the definition of canon>Dr. Slump (manga)>Dragon Ball (manga)>Neko Majin series>Jaco The Galactic PatrolmanOption #2, what the franchise has stated>Literally everything is canon, t. Online, Xenoverse, Heroes
>>543002896>The japanese love it. They rank Goku vs Moro as high as some fights in the original manga.No they don't. And Goku vs. Jackie isn't the highest rated fight either. People misunderstand that poll.
>>543002737>>543002896>>543003012I don't want Super to return. I's rather we go past EoZ, if the anime must continue. Tired of all this midquel shit. SH was already pretty close to EoZ as it was, so what are they gonna do now? Have Black Freeza show up one week before the tournament?
>>543004662Black freeza has to be post EOZ
>>542970068Bros what are the chances that the new dragon ball game is just that turn based slop Chinese gacha getting a global announcement?
>>543004465Does option #1 include Minus? If not, I will take that.
They are erasing GT from history because they are about to go past EoZ, btw.
>>543004662I don't think we're ever going to do post EoZ. Mainly because it would necessitate making Uub a main character. This is the same series that couldn't even make Gohan stick as a main character, how the hell are they gonna do Uub?
>>5430047970%, it wouldn't be as profitable
>>543004662Here’s what’ll happen>Beerus is fed up with waiting and decides to hold a tournament to decide his successor>Goku, Vegeta, Broly, and Gohan are forced to participate under threat of Earth’s destruction>most of the arc is a long training/peacetime section a la the anime’s ten days before Cell>tournament arrives>Goku says he has a plan>Goku vs Broly and Vegeta vs Gohan>Goku is playful with Broly, Broly is taking the whole thing seriously because he’s not that smart>Vegeta is testing Gohan, Gohan just wants to go home>tournament ended is Goku vs Vegeta>suddenly Freeza shows up and defeats both of them with his new form>Goku had tricked Freeza into thinking this was a new Tournament of Power and the reward was Dragon Balls>Beerus congratulates Freeza for his win and Whis takes Freeza away for three centuries of Hakaishin training>final pages are of everyone going to the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai, with the final page being of OobThere’s your final DBS arc. I will be proven at least half correct.
>>543005039If they cared about profitable they wouldn't have ,are the first half of daima adventure slop
>>543004620That poll was so weird. Instead of letting the readers vote for their four favorite fights, it separated the whole thing in four sections. Goku vs Roshi was guaranteed to get first place in the first section since it had no real competition, aside from maybe Nam.
>>543005158I think this is quite a good outcome ngl. I would not be upset with this.
>>543004772Doesn't make sense. EoZ implies they live in peaceful times, so unless Freeza stops being an antagonist, it would be odd.>>543005028This too, no way Uub could do what Gohan could not.
>>543004945Toriyama is dead so it doesn't matter what comes after.
>>543005308I dunno, I feel like people would be angry at the idea of frieza getting to no-sell the entire cast twice. Not only do we not get the satisfaction of Goku fighting beerus, we don't even get the satisfaction of goku getting to avenge his defeat in granolah.
>>543003195Same. DB ended in 1995 for me (1996 for anime).
>>543004620>>543005212>>543003820To this day I don't understand why was Piccolo vs Goku not in the OG DB pool. If it had been there, Goku vs Freeza would have likely taken 1st spot, as it should.
>>543005445It matters for video games and who gets fanart for the next few months.
>>543005028Training Uub is going to be the excuse for Goku to be gone for most of the arc, Goten/Trunks/Vegeta are going to be the main cast post EoZ.
>>543005028>>543005424The reason Toriyama didn’t like writing Gohan was due to how he setup his character.Oob, on the other hand, is literally another Goku. He’s the person most like Goku, that was the point. Ignoring that though, if they wanted him as the main character, it could work or not work. Either way, the limitation Gohan had isn’t there anymore as Toriyama died and isn’t writing anymore.
Goku is never truly going away. He'll become a master like Muten Roshi.>>543005781Goten should train or learn from Bejita.
>>543005587They separated it roughly equally, it's just that DB was becoming less and less of a Goku story as it went.
>>543005990They should have just handed out 5 votes and let people vote on who they wanted to across all fights. Having 4 pools and then announce the results as if all options were facing each other was retarded.
>>543005821>He’s the person most like Goku, that was the point>Pan shows far more interest in training than even Uub does, but Uub wins out because he's just born with more potential than herBeing Pan is suffering. I am under no illusion that current dragonball wants to do anything with her but be fodder to power up goku/ gohan
>>543006202Good. Girls are pointless.
>>543006202No way Pan (or any female) would become the protagonist. At best, she could be a deuteragonist like Bulma was at some point.
>>543006363I don't think she's even going to so much as get derutagonist anymore. At best she'll get that if she's going to be the damsel in distress.
>>543006574Toriyama was misogynistic pig. A18 was a strong fighter and instead of having her keep up, he turned her into a housewife, same with Videl
>>543005028>Mainly because it would necessitate making Uub a main character. This is the same series that couldn't even make Gohan stick as a main character, how the hell are they gonna do Uub?I don't understand why so many believe in that. Buu saga itself set up Gohan as the main character and he was sidelined. There's just no need to actually make Uub into the main character, since Goku is only training him to have someone to fight with. In DBO, written by Toriyama, Uub is less than a footnote.>>543005424>EoZ implies they live in peaceful timesEoZ also implies there were had 10 years of peace, but DBS had more events than even Z.>>543006153Yeah, the way they separated things was retarded. If my favorite matches were Goku vs Piccolo and Goku vs Buu I couldn't vote for both of them arbitrarily...>>543006202>Pan shows far more interest in training than even Uub does, but Uub wins out because he's just born with more potential than herPan only really interacted with Goku just left without saying goodbye to her too (He does in the anime though).>I am under no illusion that current dragonball wants to do anything with her but be fodder to power up goku/ gohanShe was in Super Hero at least. Ironically despite her being ignored in EoZ, in DBO she's one of the characters who shaped the current world, while Uub is ignored.
>>543006815By the time 18 was powercrept, so was 90% of the cast, so really she's just normal.That being said I really don't get what Toriyama meant by the whole soppovich fight. It's one of the most brutal fights in the series used solely to shit on a newly introduced side character. Why did he do it?
>>543006815>Toriyama was misogynistic CHADYEP, YEP! BASED!!!
>>543006815>Toriyama was [BASED]Why would you want a girl in your show for men anyways? Do you have an emasculation fetish?
>>543006815>same with VidelVidel was never ever in the ballpark of being a serious competition.
>>543006815A18 was an appliance, of course she belonged in the kitchen.
>>543006202That’s not what matters.What matters is who Oob is a reincarnation of- Boo. Boo was someone Goku actually felt kinship with in a weird way and that’s because all he cares about is fighting strong guys and having fun, with the unfortunate disposition of blowing shit up.
>>543006815Reddit/tumblr/bluesky is not here, kween.
>>543007569Granted we don't see a lot from uub in EoZ, but from that and GT we're given zero inkling that uub has any of those qualities. From a fun fight coreography perspective he's just worse than kid buu in every way due to not being a cool bubblegum man who can shove his foot through the floor and become a hang glider
They should make a DB remake before Nozowa dies
>>543007157He hates women. he wrote that rape doujin, that's pretty clear what is sick deviant mind was thking about>>543007210>>543007253>>543007413>>543007759Incel behaviour
>>543007914Oh it's a troonzenshu.
>>543007914Panpedo, is that you?>>543007994BASEDAROOOO
>Gotenks with ShuYou already paypigged for the most bullshit tech, let me play Hit in peace.
>>543005028>making Uub a main characterWhy?Uub may just be another one that Goku helps train and that's it. With Toriyama dead, Uub doesn't need to be relevant just like in GT
Freeza has stopped being super evil. He spared Gaku and Bejita. The earth is in no danger. Black Freeza WILL be the first post EoZ ARC.>>543007914Rape is funny.>>543008130If the pan pedo was here he'd be replying to himself.
>>543007994
>>543007759You’re not meant to view him as a real character in the original manga, he’s the epilogue. Cell and Boo were about Goku trying and failing to see himself in other people, starting with Gohan and running all through Vegeta becoming a family man thanks to trying to be like Goku, and Goten/Trunks training to shitpost rather than because they really enjoy fighting the way Goku does.So, Boo but a nice guy is what Goku wants.
>>543008337>he'd be replying to himselfYou just made me realize even Panpedo stopped posting in /dbs/
>>543008361>Cell and Boo were about Goku trying and failing to see himself in other people, starting with GohanNot saying you're wrong but I dislike that Toriyama tried to do this. Pacifist Gohan comes out of nowhere and people shit on Goku for throwing out Gohan like there was any other option left for him to do.
>>543008361An arc post EoZ is needed to develop him into a likable character. I see.
>>543008526He exclusively posts on desuarchive. He still replies to himself daily. He melts down over anyone saying GT sucks in the main thread. He been thoroughly buck broken. Everyone ignores him now.
>>543008608The only real argument is for the senzu bean, that was pretty retarded. Pacifist Gohan shat all over his CHAD record in Namek.
>>543008805it's less his record in namek that i think it shits on, and it more directly shits on piccolo's sacrafice in Saiyan Saga. Gohan already learned there that he has to fight or people he loves will die. This carried on fine into namek saga where he continues to fight because he knows he has no choice. But he just loses all of that in cell saga for whatever reason
>>543008361I'm just gonna say it how it is, Uub would be way more liked if he was not a jeet.
>>543008608I think it was clever. Goku assumed Gohan would act the same as when he was 5 which was retarded. Though funnily enpugh Piccolo assumed he'd act like when he was 4.
>>543009004Lots of folks don't wanna accept it, but Cell is truly one shitty written arc carried by Cell's voice actor and SS2's introduction.
>>543008801>He melts down over anyone saying GT sucks in the main thread.I remember seeing a post showing him having a meltdown over GT bringing up the possibility of SS5, denying it ever happened, but Bulma herself theorized it.
>>543009362Why wouldn't Goku think Gohan would act like he had been acting since saiyan saga? He was extremely proactive since that point and had instantly gone to go fight frieza when he was landing on earth as well asthe androids. He also attempted to go save piccolo when it seemed like he was going to die when imperfect blasted him. Gohan walking up to cell and saying he's a pascifist and hates fighting is completely incongruent with how he's acted. Granted, Goku keeping that he wants Gohan to fight Cell a secret is also extremely out of character for Goku but still.
>>543009418I really can't distance Android and Cell saga, they are a full package in my eyes. Like Namek + Frieza arc. That said, it gave us Trunks, relevant Piccolo, more Red Ribbon love, a team up with post SSJ Vegeta after Namek, Cell acting as a ticking time-bomb while the Androids are still in the spotlight.I'd argue Buu saga is carried by Majin Vegeta and a rematch between him and Goku.
>>543006815In a good timeline, 18 would have never married the bald noseless Chinese midget out of pity and stayed single and be the Nina Williams of the Z-Fighters, a cool assassin type character who helps the heroes and the villains for her own benefit (money, money, money)
>>543009754Thank god no one pays you to write this trash out.
>>543009630I annihilated him that day
>>543009684>I'd argue Buu saga is carried by Majin Vegeta and a rematch between him and Goku.Wasn't that fight almost entirely offscreen in the manga?
>>543009035>Goku will use the dragon balls to wish away his brownnessThis will save Dragon ball.
>>543009684>I'd argue Buu saga is carried by Majin Vegeta and a rematch between him and Goku.The Super Spirit Bomb moment is much better than anything in the Cell arc. Not saying Buu is better than Cell, but you cannot ignore that moment kek
>>543009928Yes>>543009684The Buu arc has something for everyone. I liked the suspensefulness of it all. Fusion is really cool and I like Gotenks.
Chronoa is Red.Aeos is Blue.Why have one Time Gilf...When you can have two?
>>543009754In a good timeline, A18 would have become part of CHADku's harem, instead of cucking Krillin in canon.
>>543010160I think as a villian, Buu has more going on for him than Cell. His gimmicks are a lot more unique and as a fighter he does some extremely interesting things. Cell doesn't really do much with his "I know all of the Z fighters' moves!" gimmick aside from copying instant transmission at the very end. Buu's gimmicks are consistent throughout the arc.
>>543010160Watch Gohan go from a quivering boy, to saving the world, had way more pay off than the "Save-the-day-ball" (except it works for real this time). The only best part of Buu saga IS Buu and Satan (and Videl sure).
>>543006815
>>543002570>I still can't understand all the fuss people make about Moro on every new announcement. It's Dragon Ball Jewtubers who are starved of content to make videos of so they're desperate for a new anime and they keep perpetually baiting their retarded watchers with this shit
>>543009754What possesses someone to think this and write it out?Housewife > any profession for women.>>543010345Your Mexican version of Goku doesn't exist.
>>543010384my issue with that is that setup works for Namek saga, but not really androids and cell. People rightly bring up how android 16 has no business being the guy who caused Gohan to go over the edge, but that's just a symptom of the wider problem that Gohan isn't even really IN androids+Cell
Don't care unless STRONGESTTALLESTUNDEFEATEDly is involved.
>>543010384>Gohan go from a quivering boy, to saving the worldI just can't agree. The transformation is still cool, but the buildup is so retarded that it kinda ruined it for me nowadays.
>>543009863If I wrote DB, then DB would actually be cool again and ooze of 90s vibe>Goku would have died on Namek or at least "disappeared" without trace>Vegeta would still stay the same evil opportunistic shit he was in Namek (best version of the character btw) and only show up to big fights when it benefits him, not be Goku's bad cop buddy>Trunks is still born, but Vegeta actually rapes (I don't believe for ONE second that Vegeta didn't rape anyone while a warlord) Bulma to make Trunks so he can get him later and build a Saiyan army, Trunks resists and teams up with Gohan against him>Gohan would actually take up the mantle as Goku's successor and step up as the protagonist and the story would be about Gohan's battle against two factions: Vegeta and the remaining Saiyans and Frieza and his empire invading Earth like Invincible (DBZ for white people btw)>Android Saga would still happen, but this time, Gero is the main villain like he was actually meant to be with 17, 18 and 19 working by his side until 17 and 18 defects>Oh, and add Cell into the frayDB became popular because of DBZ and rule of cool, no one cares about muh gags and the optional pedo prequel
>>543010702...in seeing CHADrus breed Cheelai.
>>543010786>>Gohan would actually take up the mantle as Goku's successor and step up as the protagonist and the story would be about Gohan's battle against two factions: Vegeta and the remaining Saiyans and Frieza and his empire invading Earth like Invincible (DBZ for white people btw)>>Android Saga would still happen, but this time, Gero is the main villain like he was actually meant to be with 17, 18 and 19 working by his side until 17 and 18 defects>>Oh, and add Cell into the fray>3 threats happening at the same timeThis would be a clusterfuck.
>>543010498>Your Mexican version of Goku doesn't exist.You clearly never heard of Dicasty. Such ignorance...
>>543010552>my issue with that is that setup works for Namek sagaWhich was SSJ Goku's time, Frieza is Goku's villain first and foremost. Cell, you could argue, was always for Gohan/Trunks in a thematic sense. All these fighters, some are enemies Gohan personally had to survive through, all culminating in a chimera abomination with all their techniques and feats. Plus, they were all of Goku's enemies, all on Gohan's shoulder's.Gohan wasn't "IN" the arc, I can concede and acknowledge that, but that doesn't mean his build up FROM Namek and Sayain arc, can't be played off in the Cell tournament. Those tantrums still mattered, those bursts of energy were always foreshadowing something, maybe having Gohan be the "legendary super sayain" on Namek could've worked, but it was still Goku's show.
>>543010835...SHITrus dreams, knowing he will never have her.
>>543010994>MexiDEITY fanfiction I kneel...
>>543010786I don't really get the common thought in fanfic that vegeta is all that into the saiyans and wants to make a "saiyan army" and bring them back. Vegeta never gave even the slightest of shit as saiyans as people. He cares about being PRINCE of the saiyans because it's a title of power and pride not being prince of the SAIYANS in the sense he cares about anyone other than himself
>>543010994>CHADastyBASEDASED
>>543011286>*cuts back to tearful speech on namek about how losing planet vegeta was the worstest thing ever!*
>>543009681People really miss the irony of the Cell fight. Goku thought Gohan would get angry at Cell, and Piccolo thought he'd get afraid of Cell, but the reality is he was afraid of getting angry at Cell. And he was provwn entirely correct later when in his rage he decides to torture Cell instead off finishing the fight. Goku's entire plan was making Gohan a ragebot... and it succeeded. People really misread Gohan as a pacifist in that scene. He straight up tells us at one point he wants to get angry but can't, he was mentally blocked; it's directly in the manga but people miss it all the time. It's not that he didn't want Cell gone, it's that he didn't want to go berserk.
>>543011417We all know Vegeta peaked there, but we gotta continue the story somehow. Enter Cell saga where every character, minus Trunks, becomes a retard.
>>543011417Right afterward Goku says Vegeta's bullshitting and he was only ever sad about being forced to serve under Freeza.
>>543010994Does anyone know how to get past the VPN black for DeviantArt? I want to scrape this guy's works. I'm thinking of going to a coffee shop and doing it.
>>543010978Just make it like the original story where there's a clear progression. I was actually very surprised by how well the Piccolo Jr -> Saiyan -> Frieza Sagas flowed so wellSame as original story. Frieza and Android Saga is about the consequences of Goku's past villains and then comes Gohan vs Vegeta as the natural conclusion just like Mark vs Thragg
>>543009681>Granted, Goku keeping that he wants Gohan to fight Cell a secret is also extremely out of character for Goku but still.Trunks also told the characters nothing about the androids for no reason other than making the characters surprised at what they can do alongside the readers. Horrible communication in Androids arc is almost a theme.>>543009684>I'd argue Buu saga is carried by Majin Vegeta and a rematch between him and Goku.That was less than 10 pages. Even third form Freeza had more screen time than that.>>543009754>and be the Nina Williams of the Z-FightersA jobber?
>>543011460Doesn't gohan just outright say he doesn't like fighting, though? Even if you want to construe that Gohan is simply afraid of his own anger, why would he be? If anything his anger has never once been enough to be even remotely close to beating the boss. It didn't help him much against vegeta, it stalled out against frieza, why would he randomly think now that he's going to go out of control and become a psycho?
>>543011460He literally never hurt his allies during his "rampages". Was complete nonsense the whole setup. The arrogance also was not something unique to him, but because of the transformation, same happened with Goku during Namek.
>>543011926Not sure why that anon is vehemently defending this. The transformation is still cool, but that doesn't mean the buildup was remotely decent.
>>543011015That's another misconception. #16 wasn't the one to get Gohan into a fighting shape because they were best buds but because they were both peaceful. All Gohan's friends took fighting or adventure by choice, he was the only one forced by curcumatances.
>>543011883>pages (manga)>'screentime' (anime)at least stick to your semantics.
>>543012194but Gohan had never met or talked to 16 before that point. He just shows up as a head and starts talking to him about saving earth in the middle of his friends and family getting his ass beat by the Cell Juniors. Which I think is the real issue. Gohan just standing there Gawking while his friends and family are about to die. It took way less for him to spring into action back during Namek but he didn't even try this time.
Moro arc > Cell arc
>>543011926Gohan hating fighting is 90% dubshit.Most Gohan misconceptions are due to the dub. Pretty much everything said in the episode where he transforms was made up by the dub writers.
>>543011286>I don't really get the common thought in fanfic that vegeta is all that into the saiyans and wants to make a "saiyan army" and bring them back.Even funnier considering Nappa suggested doing just that, but Vegeta denied it.>He cares about being PRINCE of the saiyans because it's a title of power and pride not being prince of the SAIYANS in the sense he cares about anyone other than himselfAnd even that part of his character is exaggerated in the english dub. After Namek he barely mentions he's a prince. Even before that he doesn't mention it much.
>>543012185I'm just genuinely confused as to why anon would think Gohan would be afraid of his own anger. If anything he should just think it's useless. As far as Gohan knew, his absolute peak of rage with all of his power let him only slightly challenge third form frieza, and then his dad comes out of nowhere and surpasses that easily.
My sister told me the most handsome male in the series is EoZ Goten.
Is it safe to say Akio won the rights war? Or that they finally resolved everything with Shueisha?
>>543012571He kind of verbatim says this in the manga, anon.
>>543012561Now, now, let's not spout bullshit.
>>543012979theres no proof this shit is happening outside of schizoshit
>>543013137>Via colorsIG to the NORED!
>>543013137What he says is not “I hate fighting”, it’s that he doesn’t fight the way his dad does and doesn’t want to fight to kill.Gohan likes fighting because it connects him to Goku and Piccolo.
>>543012578Didn't Super exacerbate the whole Prince thing again?
>>543013256>it’s that he doesn’t fight the way his dad does and doesn’t want to fight to kill.But Goku has always championed not killing his enemies if he can help it? Like, this is one of the biggest parts of his character wtf are you talking about.
>>543013409tell that to all the red ribbon soldiers he murdered
>>543013334Only in the Toei anime. I think he barely mentions him being a prince in the manga.
The western fandom likes Bejita being a prince a lot. How does the east feel?
>>543013472Goku matured a lot after his training with Kami, him explicitly not killing Piccolo was a big part of that. Him killing radditz was only because he had no other option left, and he was even going to let him go once it looked like he was going to give up
>>543013472That was before kami turned him into a sissy. He was pretty fucking BASED as a kid/teen.
Buu arc > Cell arc, but /dbg/ ain't ready for this absolute truth.
>>543013838They call it the Boo arc, because that's what everyone says after finishing it-BOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>543013838Buu arc has some really stupid shit in it like everyone forgetting that the wish to revive everyone should have revived gohan if he had really died, as well as the plot only happening due to arrogance on part of the entire cast, not just vegeta.
>>543013472It's okay to kill nameless mooks.
>>543013958>as well as the plot only happening due to arrogance on part of the entire cast, not just vegeta.Which's also something that happened in Cell saga.
>>543014372technically that was the androids, and while I agree it's still arrogance I think it's a bit different when you have three years to prepare as opposed to buu just being right there in front of you.As an aside, it's pretty weird Goku just never figured out mastered super saiyan in the three year gap. it's not like he wasn't training while in super saiyan
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>>543014372My personal fan theory has always been that Goku died from the heart virus early on because he thought Freeza was the peak and there wasn’t a “next strongest guy”, and his body just accepted death when the virus started to be active. That’s why it took three years to get him in the main story, he had something to live for again.
>>543015358Honestly out of all of the fan theories i've seen I think I like this one the most, I will adopt it as my own
>>543014508>I think it's a bit different when you have three years to prepare as opposed to buu just being right there in front of you.That's fair enough, although they did try to prevent Buu from happening, and Goku even went SS2 on Vegeta to end the fight quickly, and was surprised when Vegeta turned out to have SS2 as well. Of course, him having SS3 meant he was still holding back for some reason...>As an aside, it's pretty weird Goku just never figured out mastered super saiyan in the three year gap. it's not like he wasn't training while in super saiyanHe only did that when trying to go beyond the super saiyan before dismissing it, but yeah, it's weird he didn't consider doing that first. It's even weirder he didn't teach Gohan how to turn super saiyan, or how to use the kamehameha... The three years training are so weird since the gains everyone except Vegeta and Piccolo got was worthless (As Goku's power is still compared to Trunks', so it doesn't look like Goku got any stronger).
>>543015358I like this. It goes hand in hand with the mind body connection present in real life as well.
>>543015530yeah now that you bring it up, it is extremely weird that gohan had three years to learn how to go super saiyan and just didn't. It's not like it was particuarly hard for him either, he learned it pretty early on in the time chamber training.
>>543010316>Shortstacks>Their breasts squished together>Chronoa's time symbol tatTooed on her assMY DICK
>>543010316Hmm based
>>543010316two cakes... delicious...
>>543015856Difference between Goku primarily training himself and Goku experimenting with the idea of surpassing Super Saiyajin.
>>543016156I was talking about gohan learning super saiyan, though. You'd just think that's something goku would focus on with gohan as it makes him way stronger with comparatively less effort than training him to be 50x stronger. That being said, the way we're told how goku and gohan got mastered super saiyan wasn't anything special, it was just training while in super saiyan, you'd think that's something they would have stumbled onto completely accidentally during the three year gap
>>543016357Would this fix the main issue with the Cell Arc? Gohan having SS would make him a relevant player for the entire duration. Especially because at this point base Gohan is probably stronger than Base Goku.That would mean no Mullet Gohan though...
>>543016357What I meant was more that Goku is the one that pushes Gohan towards that transformation, and he doesn’t really have any reason to during the three years and his conceptualization of training is not passing on techniques, but rather rigorous effort.
>>542945348>Most of DBM's What If's are just the typical random chance fanfiction you commonly see.Another thing DBM does that is more of a fanfiction than the original manga (Which Salagir loves to claim he prioritizes) is Buu having the memories of everyone he absorbs. In truth he only has the memories of previous Buus, and nothing else.
>>543016638Goku absolutely has reason to teach Gohan to be a super saiyan, given he knows that the androids are at least far stronger than trunks, who is a super saiyan, it stands to reason that Gohan needs to be a super saiyan too to at the very least begin to stand a chance.
>>543010316>tfw you will never be the meat in a SKoT sandwich
>>543016840To be fair to Salagir, that's something I have only realized myself recently, as you really just kind of assume by default that memory sharing comes with the package. What's really fucked up is you can reason that Buu doesn't actually get techniques from the people he absorbs either. Every technique that buu uses in the manga are techniques he's seen before. He uses makankosappo and masenko in the anime, but he does not do so in the manga.
>>543016863Plus, Goku mentions later on that having another super saiyan to spar with is great for training, so there's just no reason to not help Gohan go super saiyan.
>>543016840Get color pages
>>543016840>>543017368Stop posting the manga until Tuxedo Time finishes translating the kanzenbans
>>543017491How much of an improvement will that be over the scans currently available? How much of an agenda does the guy have?
>>543011926>Doesn't gohan just outright say he doesn't like fighting, though? Because he doesn't. But that wasn't the biggest issue. The speech to Cell led to "my dad wants me to lose control and get a big power up from that" which was the point. During the fight he does kick Cell before #16's death, and doesn't seem guilty about it, but that's just not it. He's not strong enough as he is.>Even if you want to construe that Gohan is simply afraid of his own anger, why would he be? If anything his anger has never once been enough to be even remotely close to beating the boss. It didn't help him much against vegeta, it stalled out against frieza, why would he randomly think now that he's going to go out of control and become a psycho?You're looking at anger as a power-up. Try to put yourself in this situation. Why at 10 one might be terrified of the idea of losing control and going berserk like that even though they didn't have this level of reflection at 5. You're entirely repeating Goku's mistake.>>543011949"Arrogance" wasn't the issue, the sadism was. You have a boy telling you how much he doesn't want to be doing this and 5 minutes later he takes joy in torture. That's what letting the anger guide him did. Also, Goku's thing wasn't arrogance vs. Freeza either, it was that he absolutely needed to humiliate him as a vengeance, a very un-Goku like way of fighting.>>543012185It's not about defending, it's about understanding what was happening in this scene. Once Cell Jrs. came out Gohan *wanted* to get angry and kill Cell, but he *couldn't*. It's written in the text. I'm not saying this whole thing has strong foreshadowing, I'm saying people are missing the entire point.>>543012415And that scene wasn't about their personal bond but about life outlook. And again, what sprang Gohan to action was usually his anger, but now he couldn't get angry as he, again, literally tells us. And he wasn't strong enough to beat Cell otherwise.
>>543016971why are we still here? just to suffer?
>Pilaf ArcAnime > Manga>21st TournamentManga > Anime>Red Ribbon ArmyManga > Anime>22nd Tournament Anime > Manga>PiccoloAnime > Manga>23rd TournamentAnime > Manga>SaiyanAnime > Manga>NamekManga > Anime>CellAnime > Manga>BuuAnime > MangaGT is shitDBS is shitJapanese only
...my favorite porn is futa on male small penis humiliation btw.
>>543017950final destination
>>543017673It’s a project that’s being done by guys affiliated with Seed or Might and is aiming to have the first faithful and consistent translation of the DB manga.The current best TL is Viz which takes a lot of liberties and hasn’t been inserted into the kanzenban.The older kanzenban TLs are incredibly inconsistent and about a fifth of the volumes are just ESL tier.
>>543018164>The older kanzenban TLsLike this >>543017368 one? I read the whole thing and it was coherent.
>>543017938I'm saying that this is pretty weak because Gohan has no reason to believe that he'd become some sort of sadist or lose control of himself after he got angry. Every time he's gotten angry he's just tried to punch a guy who's deserved it. The worst this has ever gotten was when he couldn't sit by and watch dende die, which forced them to flee from the frieza soldiers. Gohan's anger has been almost entirely worthless to gohan as anything other than stalling at best. I feel that if gohan should be afraid of anything, it's ending up like he did during third form frieza and immediately gassing out after one big burst
>>543017071>To be fair to Salagir, that's something I have only realized myself recently, as you really just kind of assume by default that memory sharing comes with the package.Yeah that's something that was among the fan misconceptions that DBM used. Another one is Buu being capable of dividing his consciousness among different parts of himself, when at least Super Buu had to manually control detached body parts, and when he's fighting Goku and Vegeta inside of him, his body stops moving. Really the only thing that suggests Buu can divide his consciousness around are mini Fat Buus showing up after Vegeta's self destruct, and even then, they all immediately formed one Buu again.>What's really fucked up is you can reason that Buu doesn't actually get techniques from the people he absorbs either. Every technique that buu uses in the manga are techniques he's seen beforeYeah I didn't notice that until it was pointed out here too...
>>543018272Coherent doesn’t mean proper English or faithfully translated.In particular, Piccolo Daimao is littered with errors, one of the translators outright inserted lines from the dub that he liked more if I recall, and there’s stuff like one font being used for an entire volume.
>>543018413>PicCan we all admit Vegetto is a genius? He manipulated Buu the entire fight. He's the ultimate fighter in tactics and strength.If he had god ki he'd master Ultra Instinct immediately upon hearing about it.
video games?
>>543018695I feel like dislike vegito comes entirely from people not actually watching buu saga and just hearing secondhand that "well he lost against super buu so he's a jobber" not even zamasu was really his fault because no matter how strong he was he was entirely incapable of doing anything against his immortality, gogeta wouldn't have been able to do shit either. Gogeta just keeps getting thrown softballs where he can go all out without worrying about immortality or his family like janemba and broly. Also, don't believe anyone coping and saying that Gogeta intentionally was trying to piss off omega shenron to use negative energy ball so vegeta can reverse it. Vegeta literally went off on goku for fooling around after they defused.
>>543018943Shallot is a character that exists
>>543018413The thing that annoys me the most about salagir's interpretation of buu is that he leans more into "wow soft magic systems can really do anything, huh" instead of the actual interesting part of buu as a fighter where he's an immortal slime diety and can do tricks with his body that no other fighter can
>>543003789That's right, and I stand corrected. He made it while he was still working with Shueisha. Shueisha controls the manga rights (original manga + Super), while Capsule Corp Tokyo, founded by Iyoku, holds the rights to the anime and video games. So Iyoku can't make Super 2 without Shueisha's permission because they own the Super manga and he also can't make a DB remake because Shueisha owns the original manga too.He may have Toriyama's blessings but Toriyama doesn't own his IP. He sold most of it if not all away to Shueisha.
>>543010994SKILLet >>> dicknasty
I like the Moro arc but I don't want an arc or a movie about it.I'd rather have a Sadala arc.
The next movie will be a Pretty Cure crossover
>>543020256No thanks. Theyre going to give everyone on the planet super Saiyan
Sadala needs to be destroyed
>>543020676super saiyan hasn't been special since vegeta got it offscreen back in androids
>>543019647>The thing that annoys me the most about salagir's interpretation of buu is that he leans more into "wow soft magic systems can really do anything, huh" instead of the actual interesting part of buu as a fighter where he's an immortal slime diety and can do tricks with his body that no other fighter canYeah, Buu in DBM doesn't do anything weird with his own body, aside from occasionally stretching his arms. Even that he did like, once? Twice?
>>543018389Again, you're looking at him as some kind of a robot, "press this button and you punch that guy hard, it's not that hard anyway btw". Which minus the last part (which doesn't really matter since Gohan was helluva stronger at that point) is how Goku was looking at it. But the 10 years old Gohan didn't feel like becoming a berserking murder machine. Just letting the anger flow through him didn't sit right with him which will be understandable once you try to get into his shoes instead of thinking of it like a fighting game mode you press X for.
canon cooler nextsearch your feelings, you know it to be true
>>543022097Nigga heil Cooler
>>543021985That may be correct in the moment of what toriyama was attempting to do with gohan. But the issue is there's no actual buildup to gohan coming to this conclusion. You can rationalize all you want as to how Gohan being like this makes sense, and I think it can do. But it doesn't solve the issue that Toriyama spent zero time justifying the jump between namek gohan and cell games gohan
>>542975992>>542976094I don't really care about GT but that's fucked. They could have put in Kid GTku there somewhere.
>>543022097it was a saiyan doctor
>>543022225Again, I'm not claiming there's a build up for that, just that there's a strong misconception about what turmoil Gohan was going through during the Cell Games. But to be fair, Gohan being a very different person is to be expected. I mean, even RoSaT was a huge step for Gohan, going from 9 to 10; when dealing with an adult a year is nothing, but a lot can change for a child. That's what I think Toriyama was going at, you were supposed to think like Goku did and be hit by a twist. Which might not be very satisfying, but that's what I believe the flow of the scene to be.
>>543022842In a meta sense I still dislike it since it just feels like a repeat of Gohan's character development during saiyan saga. Except more frustrating now because Gohan's gone through a lot by this point but his characterization feels like it reverses back to pre nappa. As you've argued, this isn't objectively the case. But I think Toriyama did a bad job making this hold up to scrutiny if you look at it any other way than a specific one. I would argue that if 99% of the fanbase doesn't get what you're trying to protray as an author, you've still done a bad job
>>543021416For as long as there are Saiyans that can't do it, it's a little special.
>>543023661>the reason pan is never allowed to go super saiyan is to be the universal anchor that allows super saiyan to still be specialat last I truly see
>>543023217Well, DB has a specific problem with the English dub and then fandom that grew up on it parroting stuff in the internet until it convinces even people who never even watched it. And I suppose "Pacifist Gohan" is one of these issues, I think. Though it's all enhanced by the primary problem of the Cell saga, that it's a relatively complex story by DB standards while being done with Toriyama's usual last-minute approach. Ultimately it's the biggest wild ride of the series, what Toriyama thought he was doing at one point is not what he was doing at another. I ultimately like what happened with Gohan, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to have some set-up (which, again, was impossible as Toriyama most likely hadn't yet figured out what exactly he wanted to do prior to the Cell Games).
Could the new game announced in January be Dragon Ball girls foot massage simulator?
IDIOT foot fetishist
>>543025237yeah that's a broken ankle all right ms hercule
I hope all of you people talking about a DB remake realize that it'll be a shotacon fest and likely most of the animator staff will be shotacons.There's three relevant females total, and they are>Chichi (appears once before becoming an adult)>Lunch (appears a handful of times before becoming a background character)>Bulma (plays a prominent role in 2 of those first five arcs, mostly a side character)Meanwhile, Goku befriends>a midget the same age as him>a perverted pigman the same age as him>a small Native American boy around the same age as him>a rough looking older guy>a gigantic bald triclops It's gonna be rough...
>>543026742So a lot of care is given to the scene, by devoted animators. What's the issue?
>>543026892I hope you enjoy looking at Goku's feet in the show and then seeing half the fanart be him getting groped by his male friends.
I don't want a DB remake.
>>543027124>male friendsthen it's not DB.
>>543026742Super and Daima didn't even have shota bare butt shots, it will be tamer than the original.
>>543027749Daima was supposed to be a lowkey webanime project. A DB remake would be high profile enough that it'd attract these people.
>>543020968Frost-kun...
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Ok is everyone in B at this point just some complete retard that hit matchmake enough times to luck their way that far?People in B should have a basic understanding of macro - there's no excuse for rotating when your lane is on defense or failing to rotate when on offense and a boss is present. There's no excuse for fucking farming when a teamfight is happening
>pick any>get tank role>get a trunks against a cooler and piccolo combo>afk farm until surrender
>>543027667wtf is this slop
>>543030881>just some complete retard that hit matchmake enough times to luck their way that farThis one. C rank pointing is extremely generous, win is usually +24 up to +28 points, but loss is only -14 up to -18. So you'll keep ranking up as long as you keep winning around 40% of your games (moreover, AFK of a teammate will often lead no to losing no points, but AFK of an opponent won't mean you don't gain points). And once you're in B, you can't rank down to C.
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>>543030881>Ok is everyone in B at this point just some complete retard that hit matchmake enough times to luck their way that far?That's literally me, yes
https://youtu.be/jNai555tuCs
>>543045818>GREEKdom101I am watching the entire video.
>>543045818>reekdom fags
>>543011665Where the fuck you live? Afghanistan?I use the DeviantArt oauth thing for Gallery-dl. Use Grok 4 Fast if you don't wanna skim on github to give you quick steps to set it up.
>>542999792This is the form that Yamoshi used against the evil saiyans (SS4).
>>542998367Oh, majunior actually thinks they're going to stop spreading out animators per episode when they remake something? How cute.
>>542995494I believe Toei will atone their mistake with Corrupted Zamasu by upgrading Ultra Moro fights into something lackluster.hope you like Giant Lord Slug 2.0
>>543047954*less lackluster
>>543047042it's not that they're gonna stop that, it's that they're hopefully not gonna make it look so different episode to episode. Or at least, not have someone like Uchiyama
