Brother Disapprovius loathes heretics Edition >Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes>September Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinksPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>542485987
Execute all Black Templar players.
Play Emperor’s Children
>>542902440I'm already bearing the word of Lorgar
>>542902440No.
Why am I punished for not using Twitch of Discord?
Chaos Spawns should die.
>>542904416give me your FUCKING DATA
>nonnegotiable blue panel and uncolorable metalsaber you are so fucking retardedthis shit is actually maliciousmaking ugly twitch drops because you want them to be throwaway garbage should be illegal
>>542906152oh, and I forgot to mentionit's just a quick edit of an existing fist, that makes it LESS detailedl m a o
>>542906321I think they mixed up which one they wanted to Jew us with.
Is now a good time to get into the game? I liked the demo
>>542906784Forgot to mention I like the emp's children color scheme. Can I get it with just the base game?
>>542906952No, all the purples are DLC colors.
>>542902764>>542903739
>>542907076Fuck. Is the rest of the game outside of the demo good though?
>>542907161I was actually pissed when I heard the Orks are going to be the main antagonists of 11e. Wormwood is active, the Lion is back, Nids are closing in on Terra, last we saw, Corax was ascended into some Warp Being and Lorgar is more powerful than ever. Fulgrim has taken a slight break from flicking his snake clitty, the Iron Hands are coming out of their 10k year depression, like come the FUCK on. I like Orks when they're treated seriously like in Helsreach or the one time they showed up in Gaunt's Ghosts, but I just know it's gonna be goofy bullshit every Redditor faggot gushes over. If the story is gonna move forward, I want it to capture those feelings of desperation 30k and Gaunt's Ghosts does.
>>542907712it is and is only like 16$ nowget it
>>542908269Everything you heard came from your own ass. GW has made no statements about the contents of the next edition, nor have there been any leaks.
>>542908551Motherfucker you're just wrong. You could literally just Google "40k 11th edition leaks" and shit would pop up. That's been the talk since June. Rumors, but these days "rumors" are seeded by companies to build early hype.
>>542906152I fucking hate the fist on the left. I hate it so fucking much when it comes to trying to color it.
does the charged attack damage bonus on the green sword apply to shield rush? it is a charged attack
>>542909264The only supposed leaks are people like you saying "dude it's probably orks."
Heavy plasma is how every gun should be. You actually deal consistent damage without needing to aim for the head, and you feel like you can get trade properly with the enemy shooters. Bolters should have the same punch, with no aoe.
>>542910957No. Learn how to aim for the head, and quit your bitching.
>>542912027>Just aim for the head bro>Nevermind that the majority of bolter weapons have horrible spread past midrange even with perks, excluding the staples like the Stalker, accuracy Bolt Rifle, or accuracy Heavy Bolter, which makes them poor at shooting Thousand Sons, Terminators and Chaos Spawn who all have tiny heads, the latter especially who refuse to stand still for even a second, and can't even be headshot from behind
>>542910957Why does the heavy plasma shot drop and the other plasma weapon shots don't?
>>542902440>serving an actual demon that took over your primarch's body
>>542910957lol heavy plasma is why the game is in such a bad state. they should have just nerfed it instead of fucking up the difficulty balance. the reason why bolt weapons are garbage is because plasma one shots 8 majors. they should make plasma weapons spread out its damage to all targets hit
>>542913909That still wouldnt make bolt weapons good...theyre literal peashooters
>>542913909>lol heavy plasma is why the game is in such a bad state.Enemy HP values have basically not changed in terms of the bog standard pre-Lethal stuff. The HPI was buffed from borderline worthless to actually usable like 2-3 months after release.
>>542913909>>542912027Both of you need to explain yourselves in detail because i cant understand your arguments. Why the fuck would the plasma be the reason for bolters being shit?? Shouldnt it be the other way around? Shouldnt the presence of a good weapon compel the retardoid ivans who code this game to bring the other weapons up to par?As for the other faggot who seems to believe this game should be played like counterstrike, please fuck off and read some lore. Bolter ammo is explosive, and it should cause serious damage to the torso as well. You can fuck off to your cod normie games anytime, ty
>>542908269They need to prepare a new "almost here" doomsday scenario for each faction, because they destroyed all the old ones when they advanced the timeline. Once they're done, we will be stuck in M42.999 for the next 30 years.
>>542910957>hit an enemy with heavy plasma in the torso>it survives>hit the ground near the enemy with heavy plasma>instant killI don't think that's how it's supposed to work.
>>542914761And your solution to this is to just nerf it into the ground? Are saber devs unironically lurking in here?
>>542914358>Shouldnt the presence of a good weapon compel the retardoid ivans who code this game to bring the other weapons up to par?You don't understand how slavs work. In the west, or even in some far asian countries, when someone sees that their neighbour got a new car, they try to work harder to be able to match them. Slavs on the other hand, when they see that their neighbour got a new car, will pray for it to get stolen, or try underhanded tricks to damage it to bring their neighbour back down to their level. This is a common behaviour in all slavic countries, but naturally, is the most pronounced among russians.In other words, heavy plasma being better is actually more likely to get it (or the entire heavy class even) nerfed.
>>542915047Never said anything about nerfing it, though. If the AoE damage is the plasma ball exploding, then it should not matter whether it explodes on the rubric's chest or on his foot, so that should be fixed.
>>542915584>lol heavy plasma is why the game is in such a bad state. they should have just nerfed it instead of fucking up the difficulty balance
Bolt weapons should feel like bolt weapons. Why are fucking Tzaangors eating 4 shots from a Heavy Bolt Pistol to the chest? Bolt weapons should cause some sort of stumble to Majoris enemies when hit successively. Make them dodge more often and faster, don't just have them running into a half a mag of consecrated explosive rounds like it's nothing. The ttk for bolt weapons to the body should be the ttk for unloading headshots point blank with the Bolt Carbine. With how many enemies are on screen now, with up to a dozen Majoris, we should be killing them far faster than we currently are. They can already tear us to shreds, but even getting all headshots, it feels like we're just plinking.
>>542914358heavy can speed run the game with heavy plasma. so the devs tried to make the game harder by throwing majoris and extremis at you. heavy can still speed run since plasma is aoe. meanwhile bolters which need to kill one target at a time with headshots now need to use 4 mags to kill the same number of enemies one charge plasma shot kills.>>542914043they are good if you get head shots.>>542914206health is the same but now there are 3x more enemies
Why not just make bolters stronger instead of making everything as shit as the bolters?
>>542916836I dont think they need to make bolters stronger. All of them 1 shot Gaunts in the head.They just need to decrease enemy HP overall. It shouldn't take 5 Stalker headshots to kill a warrior, or like 30 heavy bolter body shots.Similarly to how it shouldn't take like 15 fucking direct chainsword/powersword swings. Obviously this is all on Absolute, but still.
>>542918014Absolute isn't meant to be lore accurate, it is just balance so that the game can provide a good challenge
>>542918014fun fact: they only 1 shot gaunts in the head because they are essentially hard coded to
>>542918730Huh? Bolt carbine can take 2 shots to headshot aunts
>>542918014>Bolters are strong because they headhsot gauntsBolters should be exploding Minoris with bodyshots in one tap, and don't even get me started on bodyshots on Majoris+ doing basically nothing.
>>542918976thats funny cause even the shittiest pistol does deliberately
>just le click le heads>meanwhile all bolt pistols taking two whole mags to kill a single warriorI don't understand why theres so much cope when it comes to bolt weapons. They suck cock and thats just straight up fact.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZsCL7ZvEBU
>>542916478>everyone who responds to me is the same personSchizo much?
>>542919512All side arm are supplemental weapons and not meant to be the primary damage dealer
>>542919252Either the shittiest pistol does not, or I never hit a gaunt's head with a pistol, ever.I can't rule out either.
>>542920249Heavy Bolt Pistol is literally Assault's primary and was balanced around this fact on launch. It still sucks in regards to bodyshots.
>>542914206>heavy plasma was ever badbait
>>542920416What? Assault and bulwark primary damage dealer are melee weapons
heavy bolt pistol actually does a lot of damage with head shots if you are at low healthhowever it probably does 10% or less of that with body shots, that's how bad body shots are. Also, headshot damage multipliers aren't flat and are enemy specific (LOL)
>>542920597semantics
>>542920760So I guess the body having a negative damage modifier would explain why hitting the ground with heavy plasma deals more damage. This is retarded.
>>542921030How is it semantics?
>>542920249They should still ya know be good options at doing damage. In a game that throws so much shit at you at any given time having one of your options be that weak is retarded. If they actually buffed bodyshots or made enemies have less health bolt weapons would actually feel good to use. The only good bolt weapons are the stalker, carbine and heavy the rest are literal dogshit tier.
>>542921439I think the amount of shit is perfectly managable even on hard stratagem.Side arms are at good supplemental roles right now and help you conserve primary ammo, trigger perks, or contribute some damage to enemies that your primary options (either weapon or melee) can't deal with. Sure, auto bolter can use a bit more help but every other bolter are decent and great even in hard strat
>>542921193the other anon very obviously meant that the secondary from bulwark are substitute primary weapons, since they have no primary (as in primary weapon, how the game calls guns)quite literally semantics
>>542922150Yea, but i talked about primary damage dealing option, not primary gun or w/e. Pistols are supplemental to melee weapons for melee classes
Look, if you want a real palate cleanse and to see what an actual shit game feels like. Go play Darktide. What a horrible experience from start to finish. How that game has any fans is beyond me.
>>542922147i would not really consider bringing autobolter, heavy bolt rifle or the vanguard meme bolters to a hard strat tbqh famalamthey also should consider reworking grenade launcher again. not that i want it super buffed but it feels so ass to use because it just functions weird with ammo restoration.
>>542922390oculus s the best bolter in the game and its reload on execute is amazing for the grapple kills. instigator is good too, better on sniper though
>>542922293yes i know. i actually pondered if i should also repeat what you said to clear up any missconceptions. i decided against it as not to insult your intelligence.
>>542922147No one is saying that it isn't manageable. Bolt weapons are under powered its literally that simple. Every single weapon that isnt a bolter is way better than any of the bolter weapons.
>>542922747Even melta's?
>>542922854Yeah actually you get more value out of the melta than the auto bolt rifle. Single click and it deletes minoris trash.
>>542922559proofs
>>542922559Why did Sniper get the Instigator again?
>>542923318Yea, that is the worst bolter and I did say that need buffs. Most of the rest of other bolters are as good or better than melta's
When will Tactical get access to Power Sword?
>>542924063Never he already has the best weapons in the game ie bolters
>>542923757they use them, eliminator sergeants can take it
>>542924360That's bullshit. Intercessors can use Power Swords perfectly well, plus it's not like it'll break any 'balancing' ivans try to keep in this game.
>>542923503I prefer Instigator because it gets ammo back on reload per hit
>>542924557they should take the heavy bolt rifle off him and then do something interesting with it for heavy
>>542924360When blood angels get a power sword skin(never)
>>542924557Nope sorry melee is his supplemental way of doing damage he almost all ranged weapons available to him why would he need more melee options?
>>542925553Not him but extra options are always welcome. Even more so when it doesn't mess with balance as it was mentioned. Besides, what is this, no fun zone? As long as it doesn't break anything I don't see how adding PS to the class is a problem.
>>542926085>what is this, no fun zoneAccording to Saber: yes.
>>542926085I was being sarcastic. Fuck if I know why saber does anything. They're genuinely retarded with a lot of their choices. Tac should get a power sword.
>>542926085>As long as it doesn't break anything I don't see how adding PS to the class is a problem.This. But let's not forget Saber finds it arbitrarily "1000000% impossible" to add knife to heavy when he's using HBR, when a modder did that with a fraction of devs resources.Personally, tac could have access to every melee weapon and I'd be fine with that. Much like giving vanguard plasma rifle and pyrecannon would help the class. But the game's director would rather throw diabolical modifiers at players that disable their keyboards at random in the name of 'muh game is too easy'.
>>542926947Only if assault and bulwark get primaries as well
>>542902440Do Sons of the Phoenix count?
>>542916648>the basic bitch bolter made for puny mortal hands in Darktide is far more destructive and satisfying to use than the gigantic variant used by the elite super soldiers of the Imperium in SM2I should just get back into Darktide; I haven't tried the Arbites yet.
i was looking at the primaris space marine minis, and gw gave a name for each marine based on the weapon they use, its so retarded.
I just bought the game and it crashes on the first cutscene
>>542929042do you have more than 8 cpu cores? forcing it to 8 fixed it for me
>>542929217According to task manager I've got 6. I installed it on an SSD as recommended and I have no clue what's causing it to crash on the first cutscene.
>>542926085>Besides, what is this, no fun zone?Sometimes when I play the game I ponder the very same question. Too many decision seem to stem from retarded sense of self-righteousness. Too many.
>>542930102The real problem is that saber makes decisions based on what they want not the players. One of the first community notes was a message from the director saying thats exactly what they did.
>>542929505I guess verifying files fixed it somehow.
I just did a 20 wave horde mode (we wiped because I was the only guy leveled and the other 2 sucked fucking dick) and now my game won't load. I loaded in after the mission (both of the faggots rage quit without saying ggs) and then it got stuck. Alt+f4'd and reloaded the game. Now I can't load back in.
I'm really new to the game and 40k as a whole. I've been levelling Tactical almost exclusively because I like the big damage buff against annoying to kill shit and bosses. What's the best primary weapon to lean into? I can land headshots consistently.
>>542934156Pyrecannon.
I hate Chaos Spawn so fucking much it's unreal
>>542927258is there a reason so many Chapters are represented but Grey Knights aren't?
>>542935271Agreed. They should be.
>>542935597>>542935271They're slaves to the Inquisition
what are the chances of relic blades being added?
>>542935271Grey knights are all termie wearing chaps and psykers so we would need an librarian class and terminator armor to even get them
>>542902440I could fix her
you guys think this is close enough for a loyalist emperor's children
>>542940372Good start, but he needs more bling.
>>542940728Just started the game, I gotta grind out the bling
>>542940768Fair enough. Happy purging, brother.
anyone know if this triggers when grapple only has one charge? is it technically on cooldown since the second charge is recharging?
>>542941884just tried it and it doesnt
>>542941884>>542942326Vanguard is just filled with stupid anti-synergy because Saber is dumb. Vanguard likes Grapnel resets? Let's make a perk that only works when you have no charges. You execute an enemy with Grapnel? Let's skip the Diving Kick in Grapnel executions so perks that trigger with Diving Kick don't work.
I just realized that assault has a cap on how many minoris he can kill with a groundpound
>>542916648You fight complete shitters in darktide and 90% of the enemies are the weakest minoris that also get one-shot in sm2 while the 10% are majoris at best.
>>542943936weapon cleave increases or decreases it.
>>542943936last i checked the cap was something like 100 for thunderhammer and around 10 for chainsword and fisti havent looked at it since before they gave him power sword so idk about that>>542944317really? when did they change it
>>542944201You're also playing as complete shitters and still one shotting the same, if not better, enemies than in SM2. If random guardsman #4902 is capable of cleaving through 6 maulers to kill them all in 3 swings why the fuck does a space marine not do better to tzaangors?
>>542944664>100 for thunderhammeryour right on the wiki at least its 100 for hammer "jetpack land" attack. chainsword and fist are 15. i can just tell it changes with balanced vs block
>>542944317>>542944664Thats fucking retarded
>>542944737But space marine can kill like 5+ tzaangors in 1-2 swings as well in sm2
>>542945238Not with half of the melee weapons it can't
>>542944897sounds like placebo to me
>>542945238lol no you dontblock p sword takes like 3 swings to kill tzangors
>>542945321Every of them can with the right condition.
>>542945578A single power swirl kill like 5+ even without adrenaline.
>>542945684>right conditionThat's cool, i hold mouse 1 and gib enemies but its well and good that the pinnacle of mankind's warrior prowess has to be doing a half-squat on a new moon while reciting Hamlet to do the same thing
>>542945882> In control of mankind's warrior> can't just do a power swirlWell if you use heroic power sword then you can just clear 10+ with 2 power rakes then.
>>542946183>no, you see you need to also equip this specific charm on the waning gibbous and then you'll be able to still do less work than a random arbites or witch hunter
>>542903739>9"8'Why are so many people illiterate these days? Half the sentences in that meme look like they were written by an ESL.
>>542946183>random criminal completely mogs the power fantasy of being a fucking space marine
>>542946385Funny you say that when darktide is about grinding out accessories and weapons with the right bonus.
>>542946559Sm2 bulwark would just hold sprint through that crowd and kill all of them
>vanguard took my stim>he is full health>proceed to do all the work until the boss>stop helping >the vanguard and sniper cant bring down the boss>they start complaining in the chat>just type use your stim brodont be greedy brothers
>>542946582Funny you say that when the minmax grind doesn't actually change much A 2handed weapon with the worst bonuses will still oneshot a stormvermin, an enemy that would take at least 3 rounds of shoulder bashing for a space marine to do it
>>542946932But a single shoulder bash + gunstrike would instantly kill that stormvermin in space marine 2?
>>542947112No, it wouldn't
>>542947135Yea it would. A stormvermin is like a shield tzaangor in sm2 at most.
>>542946729you know what pisses me off about that? you can walk through cultists but a tzaangor/hormagaunt blue attack can completely stop you in your tracks and force a reaction, even while you're a walking tank swinging a gigantic weapon with the momentum of a freight train.
>>542947423You can stagger or straight up kill a minoris out of the leap if you hit it during the attack if you don't want to go through the execution animation.
>>542947321No, it wouldn't, it's a majoris type enemy and has the same wounds and only one less toughness than a rubric marine depending on editionIt would take a minimum of 3 to 4 shoulder bashes to kill if saber were the one making it
>>542947583it's pretty inconsistent and you will notice it after a while when spamming charge attacks with a weapon like the thammer/power fist. after some point in the tzaangor/hormagaunt jump, they just become invulnerable. they would be right next to my aftershock explosion and they still get the jump off.
>>542947603No it wouldn't. You are bringing in tabletop rulebook and then compare a Warhammer unit to a Warhammer 40k unit. That's like comparing a medieval chariot to a modern tank.
>>542948005>That's like comparing a medieval chariot to a modern tankNo it isn't, they have the same statlineNice ignoring the other half of the argument to, the fact that they fulfill the same mechanical role in the gameplayFucking kill yourself saber cockgargler, your company has designed a shitty horde shooter
>>542944897Why do they have dumb shit like that in the game? Like, what the fuck does that add? If you don't want people to use other weapons with Assault, then just leave it as Thunderhammer only. Or better yet, just fuck off and let people have fun.
>>542948225Oh so you mean in context of each individual games? It take a lot more hit to kill a stormvermin in vermintide unless you are doing some thing specific like getting a headshot hit with the execution blade, which is a specialist weapon with a special moveset for that purpose. That's like one shooting majoris with a full charge powerfist in sm2 context.
>>542947754If you press the dodge in any kind of way, they lose the lock on. They'll still jump, but, say if you're playing Tac with the aoe on execution perk, you wouldn't have to waste it because the game loves spamming that shit.
>>542948828Yea, I don't really like using tact execution perk for that reason. It's so easy to waste and you have to go out of your way too much to hold it for the right situation. Using it in conjunction with emperor's vengeance also mean that you get to recover less ammo because you are holding out on execution many times.
>>542948674>It take a lot more hit to kill a stormvermin in vermintideNo it doesn't, literally every 2 handed weapon i can think of along with many 1 handed and ranged weapons can outright one shot them, if not 3 shot them with some sloppy playMeanwhile you need to dump half a magazine minimum into any warrior even with headshots, only the powerfist can reliably oneshot any majoris without auspex
>>542948828i'm aware. it's mostly just a pain when using charge attack weapons because ur constantly dropping charge attacks just to avoid minoris blue attacks despite being able to poise through heavy hits from higher tier enemies with certain buffs up. completely kills the thammer for me.
Tzaangors and cultists should flee if a majoris dies close to them, similar to the synaptic shock for Tyranids. It'd make Chaos significantly more fun to fight.
>>542934156>I can land headshots consistentlyStalker bolter. Pyrecannon and plasma incinerator are also braindead good but don't get headshots.
>>542946559>He thinks space marines are a power fantasyAstartes are the absolute bottom of the barrel in terms of individual power in the setting.
Boy this grind sure is something
>space marine power fantasyI don't give a fuck about that i want a horde shooter that feels satisfying to play 90% of the time and bullshit only 10% not bullshit a solid 50% of the time
>>542955032Feels good to me. Not every horde pve has to have the exact same gameplay
>>542955751Fuck off grigory nobody gives a shit about substantial
>>542914761wait, is THAT why I always thought plasma was shit? Because I was aiming it at enemies instead of the ground?
I really hope Dawn of War 4 isn't shit, its the only game I am excited for
>>542963176
>>542962062>direct damage is separate from splash damage but hitting with a direct stops someone from eating the splash damage because of server ticks or some shitsounds like the kind of shit saber would do
>have to install and become a Discordtroon to get the Prophyr Bolt Rifle skinSeriously these slavs need to get droned in Ukraine.
It's all fucking Chink servers. I can't even play.
>>542963176>4 factionsmeh
>>542946559The power sword literally does this to minoris.
>>542966771>takes 4 swings to kill a single gaunt
The only way i can play this game in absolute without dying is with bulwark fencing chainsaw and abusing invigorating icon T .T
Tyranid warriors act like you're blowing bubbles in their face while you shoot them in the head with 30 heavy bolts, I hate it.
The power fist is complete fucking garbage, I do more damage with a fucking knife than this piece of shit with a full charge.
>>542967087Just Power Whirl
>>542968697>I do more damage with a knife than a weapon that can immediately put multiple majoris into execute from full health in a single attackCould you post a video?
>>542968798>no longer shoots waves
>>542968697>fencing power fister weighs in
>>542968697>The power fist is complete fucking garbagepost build so we can laugh at how you've somehow fucked it up
Why the fuck are armory data not just mission rewards
>>542969286Isn't the fact that you have to rely on a build to make things even viable kind of the problem with some weapons?
>>542969706>isn't the fact that you have to path over the GIGAFUCKER 5000 node to make the weapon viable dumb? what if someone was stupid enough to not do that?
Sick Zoan spawning out of the map, making the other one immortal. Also sick mission timer.
>>542969706The weapon is viable without it, it turns into one of the most powerful weapons in the game with it.
>>542970380And that is kind of the problem. Why are there classes and their skill trees which are designed around buffing the statistics of a specific weapon instead of a specific playstyle instead? Skill trees for all classes need a rework.
>>542971243Correct, SM2 is very shoddily designed with lots of different shit stapled onto the frame after the fact when the frame itself wasn't very robust.
>>542969013Who needs a short wave when literally everything around you dies
>>542963176>primarisgood luck, i'm already disappointed
>>542972152The person who said that the power sword does literally that when it doesn't, it doesn't shoot waves that oneshots 15 dudes at a short to medium range and leaves the rest a hit from death with a single click.
>>542969840afair there was also a noobtrap perk that literally made powerfist unusable by removing cleave or something. but maybe saber has reworked it sincet: haven't used powerfist for 6 or 7 releases
>>542972585>made powerfist unusable by removing cleaveRight now that's called "fencing"But yeah powerfist goes from okay to ridiculous with the wave extender perk
>>542973812ah yes, the good ole heldrake-puncher perk
>>542973945forgot to attach picrel
>>542908269I for one want a end ot the "end times" bullshit with every single threat awakeneing.I want hard nerfs and hard losses to orcs, nid and necrons. And Tau. Especailly tau.I want nids to try and invade Terra only to be absolutely bodied the the strongest defense the galaxy has ever seen.I want the Silent King ded (wtf you brough him back anway?) and necrons to acually suffer (memory degradation wiht every ressurection, entropy problem, loss of data). And fuck blackstone and the tech solution to the warp. Bad idea.And I want Tau to lose at least half of their empire.
>>542935271>>542938340Greky Knights are all high-level psykers (but they don't all wear termie armor).There's no way to balance them when you know what high-levle psykers can do.
>>542974772>I want nids to try and invade Terra only to be absolutely bodied the the strongest defense the galaxy has ever seen.>the emperor and all space marine chapters die in the invasion, but the attack is finally repelled by female space marines who become the main military branch of the newfound human republic.here. here you go. hope you are happy. i'm not even looking for the monkey paw image.
>>542968697I used to think this too, but it's actually kinda busted. Use the block version and spec into charge attacks. The hit box is actually GIGANTIC. It's got more reach than any other melee. A single full charge hit from several meters away, I'm talking like 2 or 3 running attack lengths, can put several majoris in the red. Meatball and Rubric groups can be destroyed like this. I've hit 5 Chaos Spawn at once and killed them with a follow up charge. There is NO visual cue on this blast wave, you just punch the air and shit way over there is dead.
>>542975708>block versionyou can use balanced too, the breakpoints are unaffected
>>542975708Power fist used to be the most crap melee weapon so Saber took it and made it nigh primarch-tier relic of destruction. This is an op weapon if I ever saw one it's not even funny.Way to go Ivans, your 'balancing' is beyond shitty.
>>542975708>Use the block versionYeah use the inferior version instead of Balanced and Fencing>I-I don't nn-need speedCope
>>542975963You don't with power fist, charged attacks take the same time to charge regardless and you basically should never be throwing lightsFencing is objectively the worst fist option
>>542976096>Fencing is objectively the worst fist optionBlockniggers are fucking retarded
>>542976280I use balancedThere is nothing more important for the fist than losing access to the breakpoints to oneshot majoris
>>542975874It's the same shit with bolter weapons but on the opposite side of the spectrum. They're pea shooters and they should stagger individual enemies after 2-3 shots to the body (no AoE like plasma guns) and neither should it take ONE mag to kill an enemy when you don't aim for their heads. This is infuriating, someone change these russkies to more competent people.
Why do my flamethrowers on Tactical and Heavy feel like they're doing nothing?
>>542979892>heavy you're not zooming in>tacticalno idea, it's hysterically overpowered
>>542979892oh or maybe you believe the numbers displayed at the end are relative to your performance in the mission. In that case, the flamer is fine, you are just braindead.
>>542980094>no idea, it's hysterically overpoweredmaybe I'm just retarded. Same with the plasma rifle on Tactical. I just feel like it's not doing shit compared to when I use the stalker bolt rifle
>>542980242>Same with the plasma rifle on Tactical.see >>542962062
anyone have any luck playing this game with 3rd party controllers on steam? It doesnt recognise my switch pro controller and my playstation and xbox controllers have stick drift.
>>542966718that's normal
>>542979892>HeavyYou need to be in heavy stance and then shoot, firing on the hip is useless>TacticalPyreblaster is an OP gun, just spray on enemies and on the ground >>542980242You pick the venting version Plasma Incinerator and it kills Majoris after 3 full charged shots
>>542980242maybe because pyreblaster feels lame so it feels like you're not doing anything
what the fuck am i suppose to do as sniper vs chaos other than stay invisible? they dont fucking have heads for me to shoot. the flying gor was borderline but now the chaos spawns literally dont have heads. and i cannot retaliate in melee vs spawn even with the knife because i dont have any immune to stagger on block perks, i would have to drop the 2 second lingering camo. all i can do is throw a nade every 30 seconds (and stagger my teamamtes)
>>542987882if you play Sniper you're basically throwing the game
>>542987882Use the bolt carbine, cloak, get in close, spray.
Why are the chaos spawn so fucking retardedly designed?
>>542989154It's Chaos, dumbass. Next you're gonna ask why the Great Unclean Ones smell like shit.
>>542989154they devs that made them only use braindead builds like plasma/flamer + fencing. they must of had one team that designed tyranids then sent the good team to work on a different game and let interns design chaos and maintain the game
>>542987882Best thing you can do is quickly eliminate rubrics/disk cunts + stun termies with headshots. Chaos spawns are way too autistic to reliably headshot so best thing is to parry/GS if its 1 or 2, and invis when its 3+ so your frontline handles the CS lmao. Or just change classes :)
>>542934156obviously play what you like. its universally agreed that >pyrecannon>plasmaare the best, simply because the poop out aoe damage. pyrecannon has massive damage, aoe and singletarget, but struggles with chp recovery (you will have to get that back with melee) plasma does less aoe but also has great time to kill and absurd chp recoveryweapons that are not the very best but also really, really good are>stalker>bolter (accuracy version)big headshotdamage, one is automatic, the other one does more damage but you´ll need to clickclickclick.>bolt carbinemore of a fencing weapon with the reload on gunstrike and i much prefer block, but also really good. subpar at range but FUCKS at melee range. ludicrous time to kill up close, shit will just evaporate when auspexed
>>542966718>>542972369this
>>542991558What about the Heavy Bolt rifle?
>>542993868there's this guy who spergs out that it's shit whenever you mention it
and the other guy who doesn't know the difference between it and the heavy bolter but participates in the discussion regardless
>>542993868Thoroughly mediocre at bestits probably better than the auto bolt rifle but that's about it
>>542993868heavy bolt rifle is like the all rounder baseline, okay damage, okay penetration, large magazine. you'll always do more damage with headshots precision weapons like the stalker or normal bolter or marksman carbine. auto bolt rifle its like an in between of the non marksman carbine and the heavy bolt rifle. you can clear absolute with any tact weapon though so just use what you think is cool, the nuances of tacts weapons dont matter that much because auspex is so op
>>542991558>bolt carbineYou forgot to mention the marksman variant which might as well be a separate weapon and is also very solid as an all-rounder with an absolutely fucking gigantic ammo pool that's even more impossible to run out of.
>manage to clutch up against a bunch of warriors, a pair of zoanthropes, a lictor and a biovore>game immediately spawns two biovores and a bunch of warriors while I have no ammo and I get raped to death by spore minesThis is far and away the worst piece of shit enemy they ever added to the game, they really outdid themselves. Chaos spawns are manageable compared to this fucking garbage.
>>542997005i just wish that spore mines were more reliable to dodge because it feels like only the neutral backstep properly disjoints themi could even suffer the obscene tankiness, the disproportionately dangerous melee, and bullshit skittering if i wasnt having to drain a quarter of my ammo to guarantee not getting detonated constantly (and occasionally instagibbed because it shot right on top of me and one detonated all the others)
>>542997872the aoe field around the dot-mines was a mistake
>>542997872>ground pound right up to the biovore>it spawns some mines right is i land>they all blow up immediately after downing melollmao even
New enemy faction when? I want to kill green skins or something.
>>543003542SM3
>>543003542I want Necrons more than anything else
>get bullied because I still choose to represent the Ultramarines even with other colors and chapters unlockedI can't help it if I like them most. Guilliman is a good dad.
>>543004849Guilliman doesn't even like the Ultramarines. Dante was the only marine he connected with.
>>543005096Girlyman doesn't like anyone. Dude would rather sit in a room and write essays all day.
>>543004849>get bullied because I still choose to represent the Ultramarinesthings that never happened, part 17
>>543009485Oh shit, my bad. I posted Darkslop in the SM2 thread. I crosspost a lot.
>aim and shoot>game YANKS my camera 180 degrees for a gunstrikegreat mechanic guys
>>543004849
>It's a team takes one year to get past the beginning of Exfiltration episode
okay i'm starting the game. you fuckers better have lied to me about the plasma aoe bug.
>>543009790You have to expand beyond just the cosmetics for Ultramarines, albeit this is stuff kinda limited to owning the DLC. Use different shades of the same colors, get creative with your knees.>Leviadon Blue>Valdor Gold>Baal Red>Ushabti Bone
>>543009781>heavy-gunstrikes-a-carnifex.jpgkino
>>543010228What aoe bug?
Watching a power axe tickling enemies is so annoying. Why does it feel like everything saber puts out is so underbaked.
>>543010778Someone said plasma does more damage as splash than on a direct hit, meaning it'd be more effective to aim at the ground around enemies instead of lobbing it into them.
>>543010778I've asked multiple times itt why plasma is so highly regarded if it kills things slower than bolters and was called an idiot. today anon claimed that plasma deals significantly more damage when you shoot the ground instead of an enemy and if true that probably explains why it always felt like shit to me.
>>543005243Nah, he likes a few people who remind him of 30k. Dante, Sicarius, and a handful of normals.The biggest irony is that the eldar have become his best point of reference for everything because they're largely unchanged from what he remembers. The only people he really hates are the devout, and he even has an encounter that sickens him more than any chaos worshiper ever could.>He orders a young girl be kept safe>She shows up on the battlefield, shining gold>Ends up pretty much saving the day>Channeling the Emperor's will burned out both her body and her soul>Guilliman stays with her in her final moments, then orders her remains be treated like a hero's>Finds the preacher responsible for gassing the battle sisters up to the point that they took the girl to the front>Absolutely loses his shit to such a degree that the custodes flinch and back away>Sees the glee in the preacher's eye and realizes the man is ecstatic over the idea of being personally killed by the son of his god>Almost pukes on the spot and then just tells the guy to get the fuck out
>>543010464Nta, but I'm beginning to lean towards Ultramarines even though I was pretty ambivalent on them as a chapter. And they do have lots of nice wargear to choose from (and for every class at that). I might actually make a few sons of Guilliman out of my Dudes.
>>543011380>>543011589And you believed himPlasma doesn't do AOE at all if you hit enemies straight on. The enemy in question eats the hit. That's why you aim for the ground especially on uncharged shotsHPI's charged shots have such a big hitbox they'll usually AOE regardless because the blob will hit the floor AND the target so it ends up splashing anyways. A direct hit to an enemy never plashes whether that be the HPI or the regular PI.If you want to test it, aim at a minoris jumping at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1SHTy16p2wIs pvp dead?
To any brothers peeved because of the hoops jumps needed to get the bolter skin - see pic related and be irate no more.(Why this wasn't done in the first place is beyond me....)
>>542987882Funnily enough there is apparently a bug since the latest patch that makes a lot of chaos enemies take way less damage from headshots than they're supposed to.
>>543014808There's actually no way... Saber did it again.
can I use a black templar decal for a malum caido larp or would that be a faux pas? he's supposed to have a veterans cross on that knee but the only one there is is laughably small and requires a dlc I don't have
>>543014808first guns don't fire where you aim them if you don't press a middle buttonthen bullets phase through enemies when fired point blanknow thisI can't believe I keep playing a game where I'm punished for being able to aim accurately
>>543015909The skin is just a low effort ad for twitch.Now instead of doing a chore, all you have to do is waste a currency that could've gone to actual cosmetics or weapon variants with their own unique mechanics, as payment for the privilege of advertising for twitch for free with the ugliest skin in the game.Bionic beak and a clean mk7 better be in the next update. It's been a month and 1/2 since the 10.0 update with those data mines.
>>543016584Thats not a black templar icon
>>543011589Yeah I don't really get the hype for the autoplasma either.Shit does minimal damage, has a weak AoE, overheats like a motherfucker and doesn't stagger at all.
>>543011589Anon the plasma is much better than any of the bolters in the game. It takes two charged shots to wipe out a whole group of majoris. The heroic versions trades charged shots for rapid firing uncharged shots but its still strong. If you're talking about tacs version it is still better than bolters thanks the plasma overload perk.
>>543019424Getting to stagger Rubric Marines or Devourer Warriors and hitting incap before they even get to truly fire-back is why I love Plasma Incinerator on Tact so much.
>>543019716Plus you never run out of ammo on it thanks to emperors vengeance.
>>543004849I don't believe you people love seeing victrix bulwarks
>>543018076i'm not into black templars much; was i lied to again?
>>543021793That is but you highlighted the skull with the veteran symbol on your og image so I thought you were talking about that.
>>543021904>brightest IF successor chapter marine
>>543021793The cross by itself is the BT chapter symbol (which itself is taken I think from Sigismund's personal heraldry but HH lorefags can correct me there)The cross with a skull in the center is specifically the crux terminatus which denotes terminator honours, aka the marine in question can wear terminator armor as required/possible
MY LORDVANGUARD FORCES ARE THROUGH THE FIELD
>>543022212the official artwork has crux terminatus on the belt, the kneepad is just a plain cross.
>>543010464While we're at the topic of Ultramarines, fuck these devs for not adding the campaign cosmetics.Also, it's messed up that all the other OG chapters get cosmetic packs to give them pimp pauldrons and chest pieces for every class, yet Ultramarines get fuckall.>b-but some purity seals have teeny-tiny ultra logos on them!Fuck that. I mean real shit like what Titus is rocking. Or Calgar's left pauldron.>the librarium chest piece!It's for the Imperius Reavers, not Ultramarines.They became the most neglected chapter in their own fucking game.
I hope the heroic thammer is a power maul
>in lobby with a rando>finish a normal stratagem, he queues up a hard>figure I keep going>didn't really check the stratagems yet so go sniper>guy says nothing>once loaded into the mission, one of the modifiers is bleary sniperMotherfucking what the fuck. If it was my mistake sure but the fucker didn't warn me at all. I couldn't have seen the modifiers.
>>542987882You pick another class, headshots do nothing.
>>543016093>>543027078they should make chaos take 2.5x headshot damage for having such tiny heads
>>542913631Because its firing heavy plasma
>>543027629I thought it was his armour that was heavy?? You kids call it gradius pattern or something, don't you
>>543026556he probably just thought you are an idiot. you know, like assaults who refuse to take medkits
ive been reading a lot about the lore of the universe and the different chapters/legions.what chapter is only that really, REALLY likes killing heretics/traitors? I know everyone does, but i really hate traitors and want to rep the chapter that feels the same.
>>543027078painful to watch
>>543030226>he probably just thought you're an idiotExplain exactly how it's my fault the faggot didn't warn me about the modifiers. I'm not the host, he is. How the fuck am I meant to check the modifiers when I'm in the lobby with him.
>>543030362Blood Angels/Smurfs/Minotaurs/Exorcists/Grey Knights
>>543030362Black Templars.
>>543030362Oops, you've already fallen to Khorne. Welcome to the fold brother
>>543030362>really, REALLY likes killing heretics/traitorsthat would be ...>checks the article on ordo hereticus...sisters of battle. Which kind of makes sense as space marines have a bad habit of getting corrupted by chaos all the time since horus heresy.
>>543030426oh i thought you can see them when you press tab on the battle barge, sorry
whats up with the servers today?
>>543030762There has literally never been a single heretic black templar despite them being wildly overstrength constantly and telling the codex to eat shit.
>>543033357Brother-Captain Malachai from Daemonifuge openly calls upon Slaanesh to bless him in a duel
>>543030362the Legion of the "Emperor's Executioner"The Vlca Fenrica
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY INFILTRATOR HELMET, SABER?????????
>>543034845>Vlca Fenrica>The wolfish wolfseverytime
>it's another "mutalith beast endlessly thrashes you and no one else ever but your team dies anyway" episode
>use sniper stagger on decloak perk>it staggers allies
How's this gun? worth investing in?I strongly dislike plasma guns.
>>543038991the accuracy version is stalker light, but it can also spray fire to regain chp. i overall think its better then stalker overall. it used to be very, very bad but got buffed like 10 times and is actually really good now.the grenade launcher version is not unusable but really scuffed. it used to be massively overpowered, laughably strong. but saber nerfhammered it into limbo.
>>543039545I still see tact straight up solo delete bosses on hard stratagem with grenade launcher in like 5 sec though
>>543030362Try one of the chapters that used to be stationed around the Eye of Terror, they oughta have some beef with chaos. Dark Angels and their unforgiven successors (personally I recommend a successor over the OGs) also have their special brand of chaos hating.>>543035716Should be available, I got it right away on logging in after the event was completed. Other anons have posted screenshots of it. I believe you need to have a pros account connected to get it though?>>543035902The space wolves do have an even worse case of naming conventions than even the Iron Hands, but only because they have a lot more stuff to name. Never forget the existance of Canis Wolfborn the Space Wolf, member of the Wolf Guard of Wolf Lord Deathwolf, who really likes fenrisian wolves even by his chapter's standards and said to have been raised by wolves, riding into battle on his personal Thunderwolf, wielding his Wolf Claws.
>>543038991For a while the one that has the GL attachment was broken in the "oops literally everything's dead in 3 shots also it regens all of the grenades every 30 seconds if a Warrior/Rubric happen to spawn" sense, but it and the HBR are still alright if you can hold the bloom on heads.
A bit off topic, but have you ever measured your average temps (GPU and CPU) when running SM2? I'm getting between 55-60C on GPU and around 55C on CPU.
>>543038991you have to use +15% ranged damage team perk with it
>>543039918>I believe you need to have a pros account connected to get it though?Yeah, I found out and made one some hours ago... I already got some stuff from it but not the Infiltrator helmet, nor is it anywhere in the PROS page to claim it... I legit thought they just hadn't given it away yetfuck me
>>543040049
>>543040049>have toi doubt saving 2 extra shots is worth the tradeoff of infinite melta bombs
>>543040413god damn that is dogshitplasma wouldve killed that carnifex less than half way through that webm
>>543040489if you are going to melta bomb cheese you might as well use plasma or flame thrower
>>543039891its not bad, but iffy. you need to run on what is basically autobolter because the grenadelauncher bolter has shit ammo and shit headshotmulti and only ever use 1 grenade in 30s so you got a full magazine for boss spawns. if i remember correctly 16 nades auspexed do ~50% of a bosses health on hard strats, but then you are empty and restoring all shots takes literally 8minutes, given you get a majoris kill exactly every 30s, so it realistically takes longer.imo the way they nerfed the ammo economy is completely retarded. they could easily double the nade recovery without breaking the weapon again. it not refilling on ammocrates is honestly also fucking stupid.
>>543040049>>543040489unironically the reason for my numbers brain refusing to use any weapon other then pyre on tact. since the dot does not scale off ranged damage i can rest easy with the objectively best team perk.
>>543040830pyreblaster is an overrated annoyance that obscures your team's vision and has limited range
>>543040658Huh, maybe the guy was using some kind of hack because he was deleting the whole hellbrute hp with grenade launcher and auspex in like 5 sec in hard strat
>>543040967Pyreblaster is strong for sure but it makes tact even more of a glass cannon. It having shit chp recovery and forcing tact to commit be upclose for extended period of time mean that sometimes you can get double tap by range attack you can't see coming out of your own fire effect.
>>543041260yeah, no i call bullshit. its not even close to top 5 in bossdamage i think. you can fucking nuke a bunch of majoris that are huddled up with auspex + 3-4nades, thats its big upside. but again, if you actually use it you go empty fast.
>>543041567it's shit for the same reason melta is shit on heavy and tac — no rangebut also the added bonus of smoke grenading your entire team
>>543041567>>543042037never had the issue of not seeing whats happening because of a pyreblaster
>>543040330>>543039918i was connected to that pile of shit all the time and did not get it.
> long load back to battle bridge> finally get in> someone leaves> he was host> long load back into battle bridge> finally get in> 2nd person leaves> he was host> long load back into battle bridgeFINALLY. Why can't these fuckers optimize the game? It's always a long ass load for anything.
>>543041982>>543042037Pyreblaster has really good boss damage, rivaling the heavy plasma weapons and have good ammo economy on top of it. It basically damage everything well but the downside is that you have a small wind up before the fire comes out and you have to cook the enemies until they burn or you don't get much damage out of it. Such high commitment playstyle on a squishy class can get you to eat shit and the chp is too poor for you recover when eating shit (you would have to switch to side arm for real chp). It blows the melta's damage out of the water but melta staggers a lot and fire in instant burst and have good CHP recovery.
>>543043015It makes no sense that the battle barge is peer to peer but the actual missions aren't.
>>543043276damage doesnt mean anything if you can't project it anywheremelee is high damage too but you have a gun too for a reason
>>543043965Pyreblaster still goes a decent distance. Bolt carbine is considered one of the best Bolt weapon when it basically has pyreblaster range anyway
>>543044717just goes to show how shit bolters are
I never see snipers actually use a sniper rifle. It's always that burst bolter or carbine.
>>543045498Ran into a bunch using the stalker bolt.Since it's so quiet compared to his other primaries I kept being surprised as to why all the majoris enemies were going down so quickly as I closed the distance.
Anyone need a Porphyr Shield Skin? Seems I already had one. You can redeem it here https://prismray.io/.1ER4-KNP7-VREM
is me being invisible bad for the team?
>>543049553Depends on your build.If you get that 75% more damage for one shot when invisible, add in that skill that increase damage for standing still for 2 seconds. Then use a Las Fusil or sniper.... you can do massive damage to boss enemies.Or you can just be invisible when someone needs a revive.If you just use invisible to get arggo off you.... you might just be a shitter player.
Carcharodons sound pretty cool. Might rep them on my tactical.
>>543050680I took a really big poop this morning before playing the game. I wiped and wiped but eventually took a shower, otherwise no amount of paper would've done the job.
>>543050012>you can do massive damage to boss enemies.lol, lmao even>>543049553its not as bad in this game as in other coop games, like vermintide 2 for example. also sniper idealy isn´t invisible for a long time. as short as possible, actually.
>>543050680charcharodons are literally "i´m 15 and this is cool as shit" its just my super special super strong extra big OC chapter who are not as imoral as the evil imperium so they self exile because thats edgythe tatoos are cool though
looks like sniper's stagger perk does nothing. wonder why it has a 25 sec cd
>>543053480wtf dumb video encoder
>>543053695sample 2
>>543053695it works against gaunts and cultists
>>543053695i think they legit broke it
>>543054140it used to stagger squadmates too so i never used it, but trying it now it stopped doing that, but now it also doesn't stagger any major+ enemies
>>543040413>does no damage>gets jumped by a ravener>deals no damage>kills it with fucking combat knife instead>returns to dealing no damage
>>543053054>He doesn't think their clandestine war against the nids under the galactic plane is coolThey're battling hive fleets out in the void between galaxies and strong arming renegades into helping them.
Is there a site that offers builds and/or guides to the different classes?
>>543053054But enough about the Deathwatch.
>>543044717I liked the pyreblaster in those rare situation where there's a door and you have a massive wave of nids coming at you through that door, so you stand at an angle and roast shit that can't attack you.
>Canadian>Won't shut up about "well at least I'm not American">Cadian>Won't shut up about MUH CADIA, and how they're not like other regiments>Canadian>Ca__dian
>>543027460Chaos have less heath to balance their small heads.
does vanguard adrenaline rush trigger with finishers and is it better than tactical prowess?
>>543027078I watched this at .25x speed and you actually missed every HS except maybe the first one but I think you missed that one too. Chaos spawns' design is fucking retarded so I don't blame you desu
>>543055981i dont think it staggers if you dont hit the head, at least bolt sniper doesnt, i dont use the laser
>>543029891Gravis
>try to do daily hards>play assault>everybody else dies within 5 minutes into the mission and leave
>>543055981Double hitmarker is a headshot.
i was watching one of the tv show of w40k and jesus is really shitty, this is supposed to be one of the best showslook at how thetech-priest just disappears
>>543061050i liked hammer and bolter
>standing next to sorc at the end of obelisk about to shoot the last eye to drop the shield>look at my teammates (low level consoleniggers)>watch a SINGLE UNSHIELDED TZAANGOR down both of them>shoot last eye>krak the sorc>they both ping to do the "res me" thing>leaveI think I shall turn crossplay back off.
I knew that they locked a bunch of shit behind DLC packs but damn they gyp you big time on color options with the base game alone.
>>543064872Pony up, nigga.
>>543065640I will eventually
OH NO NO NO NO
>>543065939it's ogre
>>543063245You should have waited for them to die. Quitting spawns a bot who definitely revived them.
PSA: If you're a Vanguard not running Unmatched Zeal, you MUST kill yourself by repeatedly boiling pots of water and dumping them over your head until death. Thank you for your attention, stupid fucks. Why the fuck are you in Siege without that perk on? That is the ONLY thing you are good for.
>Zoanthropes now have a probability of blowing up on using their attacks like how lore states they sometimes suffer from burning up, unless a neurothrope is present>Biovores removed entirely, replaced with the pyrovore variantThere, I fixed tyranids. Can't do shit about chaos, but I fixed tyranids.
It's funny that the time to kill for a shielded tzaangor and a multiplayer space marine is about the same.
>>543066606I need the extra melee damage. Just don't get hit. Sorry that happened though. Have you considered not getting hit? It's pretty easy.
>>543067234>I need the extra melee damage>9 incapacitations
>>543067305I'm taking the piss anon. Sorry you had a bad vanguard.
>>543067765He's not me. I was running Assault all perked up for Charged Power Fist kills, was utterly brutalizing shit.... but I couldn't get any heals off of them because the Vanguard nigger was being a retard. Siege is so fucking frustrating because of the knuckle dragging retards that are allowed to play this game.
>you can't gunstrike at high difficulty so fencing is useless
>>543069040>3 enemies>3rd Lictor leaves and is replaced by a singular gauntBud, try that in a swarm.
Hey, is this thread empty? Me and my family are just gonna set up shop for bit.
>>543069198>surrounded by gaunts>now you also get infinite free armor from your parries
>>543069670>surrounded by Gaunts>Now you get your parry interrupted because you're being attacked at 3 different speeds while Majoris are eating your ass>whatever gunstrikes you get off have the armor shredded by the horde
>>543070186It's fencing, any time it contacts an attack you just instantly parry again.
this mission timer is such a meme
I need some pointers for Tact. Is the Stalker Rifle the go-to best choice? And which ones are a trap?
>>543069391BROTHERGET THE PHOSPHEX GRENADES
>>543071463My three favorites are>Stalker BoltDelicious headshot damage and absolutely annihilates thropes. >PlasmaBully the absolute shit out of ranged majoris threats. My favorite option against chaos.>PyreblasterWipes minoris out and deals respectable damage over time. The only issue is that you'll need to weave in some melee and dodges for the dots to actually eat away at enemy health
>>543071604Ohh I hadn't considered the Pyreblaster. I'm trying my damnest to make the Heavy Bolter work cause I just love it so much, but it really feels like I'm just a shittier Heavy with it
Is the pyrecannon weapon perk for higher dot lower direct damage line worth it?
>>543072730heavy bolt rifleand yes, its his second worst weapon, everything else but auto bolt rifle has a better reason to exist than it
>>543072787Yes, alwaysthe direct damage is fucking nothing anyways so scaling the DoT even harder is better for both
>>543073115Aight thanks man
>>543072978Fuck right Heavy Bolter is literally the Heavy's. Btw is the Carbine any good? It looks like shit but I wonder if the RoF might offset the low damage somehow
>>543070186Literally the most powerful perks in this game are "you cannot be staggered after a perfect block or parry for 10 seconds." Why the fuck are you not taking them?
>>543073985Yes, Bolt carbine is fantastic, both the regular variant and marksman variantThe regular carbine has the lowest TTK in the game if you just dump on a head at point blank and not bad ammo economy at the cost of an incredibly short fall off range. Marskman variant makes a very strong mid range all rounder at the cost of having to click a bunch. They're still not quite the tier of plasma gun but they are solid A tier weapons if you lean into them
what if you weren't invulnerable while in an execution animation
>>543071604Don't know if I'm just bad with the gun but I often have trouble getting DoT uptime on the Pyreblaster against Chaos Spawn blobs
>>543074276The game would literally be unplayable.
>>543074276That's what happens when the Astronomicon goes out.
I was somehow able to double dip on the hard weekly by switching between modded game and vanilla
>>543074276We'd be SM1 again where melee wasn't viable in harder difficulties.
Anyone got a M+KB control scheme that doesn't feel like ass to play?
>>543077180melee mouse side button 1parry mouse side button 2aim right click
I hate the people that play this game
>>543078097poop your pants right now
>>543077180right mouse button > aimparry > side buttonmelee > f or whatever is comfortable for you
guys this game broke me, i think im gonna buy some of the toys even in my third world country there is a few stores and they have like table with maps and is not that expensive
>>543080705Look for bootleg casts. 1/10th of the price and honestly it's just as good
>>543080392Right mouse is melee, retard. Middle mouse is and always will be aim.
>>543065939Primaris just look cooler
>>543080392>primary action you're going to be doing constantly throughout gameplay>bound to F
>>543081932works on my machine
>>543082086does your machine only run substantial where having your biggest combat button conflict with moving right doesn't matter?
>>543080705I got into painting minis a while back and I truly recommend as a beginner you don't overcomplicate things but you cant go in without any information. Truth is going in blind and your minis will look like complete shit and will demoralize you.To start buy ONLY this official box to begin with and watch a video like this https://youtu.be/7G8fv2UG1xcAlong with the box buy a can of primer spray and 10-15€ brushes on amazon as the brush in the box sucks.Its all you will really need and you can literally go step by step just like in the video. As a thirdie I recommend after these three bad boys you can buy a bunch of resin printed minis (grimforge knock offs) from etsy because they're cheaper and a basic vallejo paints kit to go further before you spend a shit ton of money on expensive GW stuff. Only keep in mind that for resin minis you glue them together with superglue and GW minis with a tamiya cement or any other hobby glue.
>Interact and Finisher are both bound to E>Can't rebind it to any other input because they can't share the new input for some fucking reason
Is that Dude Wall guy always around? I have my Iron Snake Bulwark for him.
>>543082354>try to get teammates up first before revive timer run out >character turns 180 and magnets 5 m away into a hellbrute execution that takes a whole day to finish. I love it
>>543082179How the fuck does that conflict with movement? Are you that old that you cant manage pressing two buttons that are right next to each other?
>>543082791>How the fuck does that conflict with movement?>how the fuck does the button you press with your left index finger conflict with the other button you press with your left index finger when you want to be pressing one consistently but the other repeatedly
>>543082480This happens too rarely for me to not want them bound to the same button. Alternatively I want Finisher and Lock-On to be bound to the same button like with controllers
>>543082354>some fucking reasonConsoles handicapping video games, as always.
i want hazard stripes for my loyalist IW
>>543082291>>543081397thanks bros i will visit the local stores to se if they are active
>>543082879Don't know what to tell you it works for me
>Most gun/weapon stats don't mean anything and are just relative values within that weapon familyI feel like out of anything else in the game, this is most emblematic of the design philosophy they made the game with. This game is made for retards.
>>543083580Its simple really once you understand that this game was not expected to last a year after it's release and pretty much everything added or balanced has been an afterthought.Even as a game fundamentally it's a 5/10 thats being hard carried by the IP, we're all here because we love space marines.Imagine if this wasn't a warhammer game but one with no existing IP and clearing the campaign in a couple of hours you'd laugh at what you just spent your money on.
>>543082407Rule is a fullscreen screenshot.
>>543086564i still think 5/10 is being very generous in regards to gameplay>>543083580for retards and by retardsit's baffling how shit the gameplay loop or the lack there of
Multi-melta damage is so ass....low ammo tooi thought they are supposed to be tank melter?
>>543087442>>543086564Game is fun. Animations are great. Everything else is ass.Gadriel has the best VA in the game and he's relegated to campaign only. Dude sounds absolutely fucking bloodthirsty during combat.
Me and the bot alone with the helbrute and it just decides to run halfway across the map and target the other guy fighting the adds. This game goes against so much common game mechanics.
>>543087735I dont think I have ever actually seen a dark angel outside the bulwark champion skin
>>543088281Imagine playing unironic super fags.
>>543086564If this was any other game the gunplay alone would cause people to write it off as unplayable trash.
i was puckered for at least half of that, multiple times i had to clutch the solo
so do majoris sometimes ignore the fact you did 10 power attacks on them and you still cant execute them?
>>543088878did it enrage?
>>543088878Enraging heals the enemy back to full HP
>>543087783>Gadriel has the best VA in the game and he's relegated to campaign only. Dude sounds absolutely fucking bloodthirsty during combat.I was replaying the campaign yesterday because a friend downloaded the demo to try the game out, and I had to double take because Gadriel makes Decimus sound normal by comparison during a fight. His screams during executions were nutty.
>>543089209>>543089374it didn't even enrage
>>543089665I wish more characters sounded like that. Everyone sounds too stoic during battle.
>>543090703I know a lot of people here don't like Darktide, but I do think their character creator would be far more fitting for Space Marine 3's Operations. You pick between like 10+ voice profiles, customize your face if you want to show it off, and then have a free-form loadout system based on your armor choice.
I'm literally dying behind multiple different pillars to the helldrake's breath. It's so fucking untested and retarded.
>>543090898who doesn't like darktide?
40 minutes wasted because they can't fix this bug. Shant be doing Reliquary ever again.
>>543091018I don't. I think it requires far too much effort for the pittance of fun it provides in return. Sweating my ass off for a smidge of the dopamine I receive parrying an enemy in SM2 as Bulwark.
What level should I be to do Siege game mode?
>>543091376a purple melee weapon and a purple primary should suffice
>join weekly hard strat for fun>one is a paypiggy with DLC armor>the other is a level 14 heavy with no perks equippedObserving the wildlife in this game is fascinating
there any benefit to charging plasmas until you hear the click or just loose them as soon as the bar fills?
>>543067234>"I need the extra melee damage">uses a fencing chainsword
>>543086564One of the biggest offenders, albeit not game breaking, is the Soundtrack. It's so mediocre and it doesn't sell that grandiose, grimdark feel of 40k. Look at Darktide's OST, it's leaps and bounds ahead of SM2 in terms of atmosphere, but it's probably due to Jesper Kyd being in charge there.Seriously, they need to get the guy for Space Marine 3. Music can sell a lot of moments and they should know better than to skimp on that aspect of a game.
>>543082879>the other button you press with your left index fingerit's hilarious zoomers had access to technology since the day they were born yet using the keyboard correctly is somehow esoteric "boomer" knowledge for them
>>543098254this. i tend to mute the original music and queue up mechanicus soundtrack these days
>>543098254There's like one part of skyfire as your only decent tyranid track that never fucking appears anyway and one chaos track that also pretty much never appears either.
>>543098254an OST for space marines should sound different but it definitely shouldn't be the barely noticeable generic orchestral shit that it isLike, mechanicus gets its slow, dungeon synths, the rejects get their fast paced synths marines shouldn't just get the same shit as them
>>543098571>this nigger plays with asdf instead of wasd and wants to opine on anything>>543092338>level 10 vanguard in my hard dailyi know what you mean
>>543099161i keep my hands on the home row all the time. even now, and yet i managed to type a post with letters that are above and below on the keyboard. try to come up with an idea how i manage to do that. i will come help you later.
>>543098571that's for typing bruv, not gaming
>>543099651>this dumb fucking nigger plays vidya with the same key positioning as typing
>>543098254They are ruskies so they should get guys who made RT soundtrack. Every faction and location has a separate, fitting vibe to them in it. Chaos battle is heavy metal, Deldar battle some dark orchestra, Imperial space Tortuga sounds like Pirates of the Caribbean, chaos cults and mysteries are horror etchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZT20zWaSs8 Word Bearershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBxS5OyV0_8 Space Tortugahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_25eAN2fo14 Chaoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGbBEctV98 Deldarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmw82VzQnOQ Eldar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIsupMveeVwThis one from the end of a game where you fight alongside Calgar is the only music I actually like
>>542901628bring it you fucking cuck, i'll kill you myself
>>543098254I forgot to post links:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX2fGLCd5vY - I was thinking of this when I said there should be a dark theme, it even has the choir but somehow Kyd made it work (as opposed to the orchestra/choir in SM2)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ozcKqF4E8 - this is another example of a track that builds a good atmosphere, even the techno part at 1:24 sounds pretty wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTLtdBxF1Tc - that would be nice for Siege, to pump players up. The style may be a bit out of place, but I don't see why it wouldn't help build the atmosphere>>543098692>>543099075Space Marine 2 lacks really distinct music pieces, that when you hear them you immediately imagine the scenery and emotions associated with the moment. That's what music is for. For instance, with LOTR soundtrack one could listen to each song and at the very least get the idea what kind of ambiance it is supposed to build for a scene>>543100854These are pretty awesome too. That's what I meant, you feel the difference instead of toeing the line using the choir every time. I wonder if they didn't get Silantyev (the composer for RT) because development for both games was overlapping. Still, he'd be a good choice. Him or Jesper Kyd anyway.
>>543080705just get some stuff from joytoy, i was so impressed by the contemptor that i got the siege dreadnought, ill get a deredero if/when they get to it
Unironically space marine music should be more like MGS musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DebmlHgAvkoHigh strung and tense in between encoungers but big and boisterous but with more horns when in combat. You're infiltrators going into the deepest pits of enemy resistance to sabotage their most important networks, you planned on getting found out at some point and you want all that enemy attention on you. The default starting place is that you're heroes, whether you succeed or are martyrs you're 3 men against many and your every step is another imperial life protected. Every measure should feel like the Vermintide last man standing songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKiUb5sMK8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6fbRTHPEjcperfectly straddling the line between>we'll stand triumphant over these tides yetand>we're fucked but we'll make this a good deathRelegate the plodding synths to the background, you're not scum and tomb raiders plumbing the grimy and ghastly depths, you're the scourging light finally cleansing it all in force.
>>543081896>Primaris just look coolerNah, you are just hard gay and like looking at manly butts.
>>543108303Made for the modern audience.
>>543080392>rebind block, heal, grenade, zoom and maybe class ability to your mouse side buttons
>>543109043Alternatively, you could bind shooting to one of the side buttons, and have a melee swing on left click and block on right click, like in Jedi Survivor.
>>543065939This is such a a dumb thing to care about. They're both fucking space marines. Who cares what kind of Angry superhuman is underneath the armor?
>>543082407>Iron SnakeNice. I was using that on tactical for a while but it never felt good enough with lack of chapter symbol. I used Alpha Legion while hoping for a proper snake one. Though that was before mono studs were added.
>>543077180Mine's as follows>Q - weapon swap>E - AbilityThese two are more or less how I've played the tide games since the first one>C - HealIt's just easy to hit>G - GrenadeG is for grenade, always and forever.>F - Execute>X - Interact Blame Warframe. The fact the game doesn't let you bind interact and execute to the same button when changing binds is horseshit>Hold down spacebar to sprintThis is a setting somewhere>Shift - ADSSome guns can be made to be more accurate without ads, one FPS I play had this as it's original setting before it added traditional FPS aiming, it's honestly not that bad.>Parry - Side mouse>Lockon - Other side mouseIt has it's uses sometimes>Left click - Shoot>Right click - Melee
>>543082407Post a full screenshot, that's the only requirement.
>>543098571>left ring finger for the WActual cancer.
What exactly is a "fully prepared ground pound"? Is it waiting for the attack to come out on its own or is there some visual or audio cue to it? What about charged attacks as well, is the power fist fully charged by letting it release on its own or after the 2nd electrical effect plays?
>>543115750the electrical effects are indicators for the fist, yesfor ground pound, no fucking clue and i have easily 100hours on ASSault
>>543090136Might have glitched out. I've had several times enemies take zero damage from melee attacks.
>>543115750yes fully prepared means you hold it in the air and let it release by itself. if you do this with that perk then you get the 20% damage bonus. but otherwise if yo udo not have that perk then you do not gain any damage bonuses, you can jump then pound immediately. it can be useful to stay in the air in order to get a better target sometimes. power weapons increase in damage in stages as you hold them. its actually slightly before you see the electricity so if you are super pro you could get out attacks faster. this has nothing to do with ground pound
>>543088878enemy majoris have iframes when they dodge just like space marines. when a ranged warrior scoots away they might take no daamge
Reminder. If not, you will not be missed.
>>543054334i found some other webms. i just like hip firing it, its good for taking our thropes and killing ranged majoris and doesnt wait ammo vs minoris.
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>>543120734
>>543120238>"X is for everyone">read the details>X isn't for everyonewhy is it always like that
>>543120734I think that if you get the jump on an enemy using your ranged weapon and that enemy still gets to attack you in melee before it dies, then the ranged weapon is not good.I really want bolters to be better, they're just too iconic.
>>543120238letting women and faggots vote was a mistake
>>542939446It would be extremely painful.
>>543124542reminder it was rich single women, old single women, and rich influential men during the gilded age that pushed women votingnot the married women
>>543111030Presentation matters.
>>543120238If I ever see a roided out tranny space marine, I'm out.
>>543126821They'll have their own chapter, The Yaas Queens.
>>543127189>>543126821
>>543098254lmurah Phases is fucking awesome. I imagine the chants are actually taking place in universe like Imurah has back up singers for his mustache twirling.https://youtu.be/pEukIJY2PTE?list=RDpEukIJY2PTE&t=95Skyfire is also amazing. I feel like it captures the struggle of Space Marines against an encroaching darkness extremely well.https://youtu.be/YfpTwnZUz4Q?list=RDYfpTwnZUz4Q&t=124
>>543126821https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2025/10/warhammer-40k-space-marines-heads-and-helmets-kit-adds-tons-of-new-faces.htmloff you go
>>543127890Looks like an Asian guy
>>543120238They just started censoring words like gun, men, and muscle. It’s so over, brothers
>>543125502Actually, rich influential men did most of the work there. They wanted more independent consumers for their products, and they still do.
>>543087154Don't laugh.
>>543127890What is this supposed to prove?
>>543100494>apm so low he cant manage pressing more than one button at a timelollmao even
>>543120238>Setting revolves around an absolute shithole where the general population is so brutally oppressed that they get killed for the most minor of theocratic slights>Nearly every planet's society is so focused on industry that the population lives like literal insects with barely any commodities and next to no free time>The entire point is how bleak and needlessly cruel everything is>Faggots decide they need representation in this universe while simultaneously refusing to accept that things like non procreative sex wouldn't really exist outside of chaos cults and pleasure planets occupied by the upper echelons of society that they would never be a part ofI don't understand this shit. They need to see people like them everywhere they go or they freak out, but at the same time that representation can never be negative even in a setting where the entire point is that everything is portrayed negatively.
>>543128320Received.
>hard strat>prestige 0 lvl 11 assaultnot even going to bother with pubs at weekends.
>>543129438>setting that's based around what shouldn't be>insert representationwhat did they mean by this?
>>543129438yes
>>543098254>When a fucking CRPG has music more fitting for space marineshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua6lfRllw-Q
Iron Halo online.
>>543120238Wasnt this during the peak of BLM riots? Pretty sure people wisened up since then
>>543120968I believe this is called the tolerancy paradox
>>543131374this is complete conjecture but i think CRPGs as a genre have more incentive to have a good soundtrack
Enraged on ranged niggers shouldn't be a thing. The only answer to it is to roll slop until they stop as even getting up in there face wont always stop them from shooting.
>>543133194Every game by law should have a good soundtrack.I haven't played Metal Gear Solid 1 in nearly 15 years, and I haven't touched Mass Effect 1 since the remaster dropped a few years ago. In both instances, what I remember most is the music. That to me is the shit that sticks with you long term. I don't remember any of the music in SM2, and I have nearly 800 hours in the game.
>>543061050This is the blood angels one right? Yeah it sucks balls.It's the "best" because out of the 90% of fanmade 40k animations out there, every other one is literal dogshit. The official GW trailers and videos are decent but Astartes/Secret Level set a completely new precedent
>>543061050>>543139767It has some good moments despite the shitty animation quality.>You were honored by being sent to the Deathwatch>And I honored the Chapter with my service>And you return a stranger, a shadow with contempt in his heart>You cannot understand the darkness, the thirst!>We all bear the curse of our gifts!>But not alone!... I did not want to go, brother. I did not have the strength to face it alone... and now, now I fear the darkness will take me...
>>543132238You think?
>>543140198The edits were better.https://youtube.com/watch?v=ufsE38gK7uQ
>>543140786Straban looks so fucking pissed
>>543139767yeah i want to pirate all the shows i had to delete the tau one is SO BAD
>>543140786Yeah I'm pretty sure2/6 spess muhreens being black doesnt really bother me
Is it just me or is matchmaking broken right now? I had a normal game, then I had a game with 1 other dude and 1 bot (nobody else joined for the whole thing), and now the game isn't finding any players at all.
>>543061050>>543139767>>543141282All pale in comparison to Astartes
>>543141735The mission is broken if you start a mission with timer modifier and no new players can join mid mission after you start
good lord shieldrush feels awful to use
>>543141282>blood angel showgirlboss ship captain>the tithesgirlboss custodes>kill lupercalgirlboss mech commander>iron withingirlboss guards(wo)man whom the chaos dudes leave in charge because of her unwavering courageBased.
>>543143878>girlboss ship captainThese have been a thing since 30k. You have Lotara Sarrin and Ilya Ravallion.
>>543132238Yeah it's funny too since GW isn't American and has no reason to release that statement
>>543141959What's a timer modifier?
>>543146374The one with the timer on stratagem.
>>543146217But they want to sell to as many Americans as possible.And as many everything else as possible, too. Why should they exclude women, trannies and gays when each one is a walking pile of money?
>>543143878Will they be big and possibly oiled?
>>543146539Ah, nah, I'm just doing regular ops.
>>543146980No idea then, maybe nobody is queueing in op at that difficult much
>>543141735It's always like that. Hit quickplay at any given time of day and you'll get the same two lobbies over and over
i hate neurothrope so goddamn much
>>543151685>in the middle of the lictors spastic combo>zoan/neuro show up>get beamed by the tracking balls which perfectly curve around objects to hit youyeah fuck those niggers
>>543151685>>543151992the easiest boss on its own, a fucking nightmare when other stuff is around (so everytime on absolute and hardstrats)
>>543151685
>>543154053>AAAAIIIIIIEEE SAVE ME LICTOR-SAN
>>543154053I'd kill for a storm gauntlet
>>543141729Technically 3/9, and soon to be 3/10 or 4/10.
>>543154467That might be the Heroic Power Fist.
>>543155294Techmarine NEEDS to be Indian (or maaaybe Arab)
>>543156150Funny, i was about to say the same thing.
>>543156150Have you considered killing yourself?
>>543156150DO NOT REDEEM THE TURRETS
>>543156579>FOR THE EMPERSAAR
>>543156442Compose yourself, Ranjesh.
>>543156904>Don't want street shitters in my game>"You're Indian"
I've never met an indian guy whose taste in videogame wasn't just playing the newest call of duty or madden. Indians wouldn't touch Warhammer.
>>543132743>the tolerancy paradoxthe problem with this paradox is that not only is it a paradox but you can spin it whichever way you like it making it a shit reddit tier paradoxI mean yeah nazis chudmaxxed and did bad things but they legitimately came to power by being voted in. Is that an inherent con of democracy? Yes it is. So you ban it to protect democracy which makes it undemocratic which in turn just makes them right lol
>>543157057But blacks and Chinese are fine? And someone needs to commit suicide because you're racist? You're worse than any street shitter, you braindead edgy teen.
>>543129438Normie fucktards are on another level. To them, everyone must be included and carried. I lurk their groups. One of them was complaining the other day for being kicked because he had picked one of the classes affected by the class-specific gimp modifier. Yes, he was intentionally playing the gimped class, saw nothing wrong with it being in a randoms group either. When someone sensibly suggested that he should stop playing that class and try something new without expecting to be carried, the entire horde of fucktards swarmed him accusing him of lacking empathy and 1 million other faggotard buzzwords. I think he got banned too. Think of them the next time you get a lvl 14 fucktard with 0 prestige in your hard strat. They do not deserve your effort and they absolutely hate you for optimizing your game. Keep vox clear of retards and gamerdad normies
>>543157582Blacks gave me blues. Chinese gave me cheap products. Indians have contributed literally nothing to society, oh and they shit in their rivers to such a degree that it can be measured in terms of pollution into the ocean.
>>543157582>Blacks and Chinese are fine?Have you watched Rush Hour? Of fucking course they're fine.
Perhaps we are United by our mutual hate of indians
>>543127771Both tracks seem fine. I get where you're coming from, but they really don't stand out that much and I've clocked in over 400 hours in this game so it's not like I say that without listening to the music from the game.. But, most importantly, the tracks are in the campaign, which let's be honest isn't where meat and potatoes are in SM2. It's sad, but I'd rather play something from RT or DT as background music than have SM2 tracks on, hell not so long ago when playing siege I got Le Castle Vania tracks on from the last John Wick film and that shit was cash.
>>543158215>The only reason why the Emperor doesn't erase you from the face of Terra, is because you amuse him somehow.
>>543157839Yeah, the blues. Meanwhile their indigenuous areas are the least developed and any semblance of civilization is due to foreign interference. They make up the least intelligent group in any population and they're also giving us the spiciest crime statistics in the whole world. If you live in some shithole like the USA or France you or your immediate family will most likely get to experience that one day. You and your "woke" ilk badly need a reality check.They're like real life LOTR orcs but it's okay because you see them on Netflix and Gillette commercials :)
>>543158475Well.... there is a reason I only picked those 2, in hindsight. Listening to the whole ost, it's serviceable, but those are the only 2 real standouts, and even then, like you said, they're only campaign tracks. The main menu theme is great, but yeah, that's about it. I actually tend to have some other youtube video going on in the background while I play. That, or I'm playing the Dusk or Trepang soundtracks with the game volume lowered.
>redoing my assault armor / heraldry>can't have the nice thick gold trimmed legs without the knee skullsgonna have a tissy fit i swear to god with these devs
>play for actual months without seeing an ultramarine>past week have had two games will all 3 ultras and tons more with anotherwhats happening
>>543160912at least personally, i'll get tired of running one heraldry forever so i'll make codex compliant setups for the big chapters like ultras
>>543160912It's free demo week isn't it?
im playing boltgun atm and it made me realise its super weird we dont have blue/pink horrors as an enemy or screamers ( which were even in the campaign they fly through the portal when you do the last stand) they could literally be the thousand sons version of hormagaunts.
>>543163401No, you get shitty traitor guardsmen that do a million damage and that can't be executed for armor
>>543163401GW has seemingly been trying to push out horrors for a while now so they can push tzaangors as the primary rank and file troops for tzeentch
Novamarines are based but their color scheme sucks.
>>543165974GW has a very weird relationship with how they are handling daemons in 40k. I just hope if we get deathguard in SM3 we get to see some lil nurglings and plague toads.
>>543163401>enter console players>too low IQ to understand they shouldn't be spraying the Horrors as they come running in>always get swarmed and burnt to ash because there's now 200 Horrors running around
>>543169513> tell console plebs to only shoot blue horrorswe do a little trollin
>>543169673Indeed
>>543167473What? It's not the best, but it's still cool. Better than some out there. I'm not really a fan of quartered heraldry, but it could be worse. The Hollowing Griffons look dope.
>>543170132no quarters scheme is cool. not one
>>543170407not even one, huh?The issue is really that it changes at the waist instead of mid abs
>>543170407Say these guys don't look badass, c'mon now.
>>543171785Sponsored by McDonald's? That's some clown shit.
>>543171017Fuckugly
Is there a use for armory data other than unlocking rarer weapons?
>>543177007You can trade it for currency.
>>543177176I'm waiting for another currency that will serve to unlock Thunderhawks colors - red, blue and white. Each one costing 900 currency. Trick is you'll be able to get these new doritos every third thursday between 4 PM and 4:30 PM in a new special mode with Warp-level strategems.Brace yourselves Brothers!
I'm a 40k novice but have been spending a lot of free time reading lore. Is Roboute Guilliman basically the closest thing this franchise has to a central "good guy"? Seems like the whole thing would fall apart without him.
>>543178642Sanguinius
>>543177176So no
>>543178642yes, and he hate everyone around him, thats why he overthrew the high lords of terra
>>543178768>A guy that's been dead for 10 millennia
>>543179251Yes and everything has been extra shit since then
>>543178642Basically. He HATES the empire though. It's basically the polar opposite of what he and Big E wanted it to be. He just took control of everything because there's no other option.
>>543144832She was less some stuck up girlboss and more of a supportive granny matriarch from what I recall but I also never read the White Scars books so I'm not entirely familiar.
>>543146629>women, trannies and gaysOf these three only trannies would potentially ask for female space marines and even then I feel they'd more likely ask for more focus on Sisters of Battle I'd think.Nobody else that plays the game and buys the plastic wants female space marines and that's the key thing here. GW might be stupid but they know who buys the plastic. That's why at the end of the day for all the bitching, marines get the most plastic. Because marine timmies are the top buyers. It really is that simple.
>what i play to have funheavy, bulwark>what i play to mix it upvanguard, tact, assault>what i play for a challengesniper
>>543154053when did they finally remove that bullshit invulnerability phase as it got upthat shit was such a cockblock i fucking hated it so much
>>543187263They removed it for an aoe explosion instead which is equally as gay not the scream but if you stick near it right as it goes up you take damage
>>543126821 >>543127189 >>543127890 >>543128234 >>543129438Die mad about it, you fat ugly spic. Trump lost.
Techmarine NOW
>>543188083ywnbaw
this thing might be a little bit overtuned
Trying to do any strat with the parry timing modification on heavy is pure suffering.
>>543188083Donald Trump is the current sitting president of America, He Won
>>542906152omg ikr
>>543189059You want to mix dodging and parrying to get out of situation.
>>543127361
tried the heroic chainsword and holy shit its so slow it offsets any damage gains it provides
>>543192970The devs literally do not understand how to balance weapons.
shield rush still stunlocks helbrutes and hive tyrant if you hit them from the right angle lol
>>543193316Yea pretty much. However, there are many instances when those bosses can't be staggered such as in middle of some attack. That's why gunstrike sometimes stagger boss and sometimes doesn't as well. They will probably nerf shield bash against boss more though
i forgot how much more fun assault is compared to the other classes
thes are my cool ultra marines. i dont play tact or heavy much, but when i do i'll play a standard ultra marine default armor
>>543193894
I think you can do without invigorating icon
>>543195781THERE GOES MY HEROWATCH HIM AS HE GOES
Rate muh Raven Guard vet.
>>543203638Eyes are the wrong color, and 8th company trim is a weird choice unless he's seconded to the company command staff or something.
>>543130452 >>543132238 >>543146629 >>543156904 >>543156817retard spic
Vortex and Reliquary. Shant be doing those dailies.
>>543204981>Eyes are the wrong colorGreen looks cooler. Does lens colour denote something for the Raven Guard?>8th company trimI thought light silver was 1st company.
>>543206139Raven Guard use red lenses and silver is 8th company. White is 1st company.
>>543128194Debunked, look up official White Scars paintjobs from GW, difference is night and day, youre coping, a shill or uninformed.
You'll just have to make do without invigorating icon desu
>>543210374I thought block power axe was superior for shield memes?
>>543210549i doubt it
I've never had to carry so hard in my fucking life what the fuck. Also block feels way more satisfying to use once you get used to it, just wish they used a shockwave visual effect rather than the explosion that seemingly comes from nowhere.>>543208161For some reason I got it in my head that 1st company uses a light silver rather than stark white so I'll change that. Still gonna use the green lenses, though. Even on the tabletop lens colour is usually a matter of preference.
I wish I could convert armory data or requisition directly into XP
I don't see the appeal of the power fist. It seems too slow with no reach to be useful
>>543203638Silver ornaments or bust for Raven Guard. White aquila looks tacky as hell.
>>543212441>No reach>Literally more range than the Melta Rifle and Multi-Melta with more damage on topAre you charging the thing up to max for starters? Do you have the 4 meter > 8 meter perk? (actually 10 meters to 20 meters but Saber lol)
>>543212441Tides of Battle (top path in the middle of the tree) is a mandatory perk on power fist and turns it into a radically different weapon. Overcharge is a mandatory perk for both melee classes using it. Get those two and you get a kind of meh weapon that's too slow and short for its damage into a midranged majoris one shotter
>>543212441>no reach
Shoot the trygon in the head with the bolt sniper and it deals 0 dmg. Epic game.
>>543213543You'd think sniper would be the best boss killer to make up for being the most vulnerable in meleehahaHAHAHAHA
>>543213832No but shooting the head of the Hive tyrant at least deals some damage.
>>543213832>class that can go invis and heal contested health and get a free combo or full charge shadow stab in with melee buff is vulnerable in melee
>>543215063>invis and heal contested health and get a free comboOh wow, you can get a pittance of HP back after getting staggered out of 60% of it and do one (1) free hit before everything turns back to you now that you're surroundedwhat tenacity!Truly better than having chainsword access and any armor restoration
>>543216141Knife is as good as chainsword though? The main thing is that sniper has melee perks and tools to get out of bad situation and make up for melee play mistakes.
>>543213543>>543213832Sniper should be reclassed as Scout and get more weapons that wayScout becomes a Majoris/Extremis killer, but remains to suck at killing TerminusBSR and Las Fusil will oneshot Majoris/Extremis at headshots but do ittybitty damage against TerminusHeavy Bolter will have half the ammo as a Heavy and no real perksSame thing with chainsword
>biovores become invulnerable the moment their hunkering down animation starts rather than when it's finishedI just keep finding reasons to hate these fucking cunts.
>>543217510just shoot at the turret all the time
>bulwark brings shield rush meme build>doesnt spam shield rush, uses it sparinglyfor what purpose
>>543216416Sniper is fine as it is. You can rename it scout and keep the class exactly the same if it triggers or autism or w/e
>>543218379It should be reclassed because it no longer functions as the gameplay intended
Damage stalker on tactical really is fucking insane compared to all his other bolter options, I had not used it since I initially leveled it.
>>543216141who cares about melee when u have 30 second melta bombs
>>543218430So just keep him exactly the same but change the name? Alright I guess if it solves some weird tick in your head about it.
why are there two mark x gravis helmets with no discernible difference?
>>543218490Melee option is still fairly nice with sniper since he can kill any majoris with 2 block stacks and easily kill many extremist with cloak + shadow stab. You don't always find a melta on the map.
>>543218614At the game's release one of them had green lenses. Now that lenses are colorable it's deprecated. Will probably be removed if the customization overhaul ever happens.
>>543218490If your only goal is to spam melta bombs, which you don't even have a guarantee of getting, then you should play tac so you can at least also have auspex
Vanguard and sniper only having two armor blocks feels so unnecessary.
>>543218490These devs silently nerfed all maps and they no longer guarantee spawning Melta bombs, that's how petty they areThe most you'll get are Kraks and Shocks
>>543218917You should be able to start with the grenade of your choice and medkits. It's absolutely wild how many fundamentals are missing from this game.
>>543219251Not going to happen, everyone will be carrying Meltas or Kraks and devs don't want players beating and/or cheesing the game.If they did that I can guaranfuckingtee that they'll nerf Melta bomb damage that it becomes as equally useless as the grenade launcher.
>>543218917Melta bombs have been nerfed to a ridiculous degree from launch, the devs really did never play their own game.
>>543218881It's not like they move any faster despite Vanguard's running animation.
>>543219414They are still outright game changing so I guess they made the right choice without needing to play their own game
>>543219251Next thing you'll say is more classes (e.g. Tac, Vanguard, Assault) should have access to more ranged and/or melee weapons. That's crazy. Who would like to have fun?
>>543219528The right choice would have been to not have it be a regular grenade.You're supposed to attach melta bombs to the thing you want to make a hole in, like a vehicle or bunker, they're not super frag grenades. Just like how meltaguns aren't actually point blank shotguns that suck against armor.
>>543219347>devs dont want players cheesing the game>auspex exists>unmatched zeal exists>heavy plasma exists>invigorating icon exists>they added motherfucking shield rush, as if bulwark wasnt cheesy enough
>>543206101did them both first try. hardest part of reliquary was when it spawned 6 flying tzaangors (i was shield rush cheesing everything)
>>543220875>auspex existsEvery time i use it i'm shocked by the damage anewLike, taking the hard strat helldrake from full down to 1%, and finished off on its subsequent breath, in one stun with just 3 plasma gun shots (I missed one) and 1 plasma pistol is still fucking nuttyOr turning a hellbrute inside out with some flamer DoT and a short volley of plasma pistols so he's just a few hits to dying from 3 pipsI cannot understand how they think some shit is broken and needs nerfing with that
>>543221273Last time I did reliquary with Bulwark, I kept getting blasted by the helldrake behind the pillar and swore to never do this dogshit mission again.
>>543221689>don't know level geometry>get hit>instead of learning it, decide to stop playing the levelfemale thinking
i thought vanguard +50% would make a difference with surgical strike but it turns out 50% of 0.1 is only 0.05 (what was i thinking)
>>543217510>Biovores become invulnerableI didn't know this. Man, this game has just sapped all my will to play it. I got Tac, Van, Bul, and Assault all to P4 25 and I just have no desire to play. I hop in to a hard strat, get rolled by some bullshit, then quit. What happened?
>>543222379Where do you even find videos like these?
>>543222415its not literally invulnerable, its just obnoxiously tanky with no weakpoints until it gets up again
>>543169389>GW has a very weird relationship with how they are handling daemons in 40k.That's because Daemons belong to AoSThere are know multiple FACTS about GW from leaks or openly stated by people who used to work there. And most important are>They cannot keep up with a demand.No, they don't do that artificial scarcity thing for everything. They don't have, they simply can't produce enough stuff for everyone, which is why everything is out of stock constantly. Like Dark Eldar range right now. Which is why they are building another facility, but are currently cucked by an endangered species of a bat making a nest on their building site, which prevents them from finishing it.>Their teams DIRECTLY compete with each other. It's actually AoS vs Warhammer Fantasy (TOW) vs 40k vs HH in thereSkaven and Lizardmen belong to AoS. Unlike with video games, GW has no way to check what are you doing with product after you buy it. If you buy Skaven minis to use in TOW, you are directly supporting AoS. As a reward AoS team will get a bigger budget for their projects, salary raises, bonuses etc, meanwhile TOW team will get fuckall. For this reason no team has an incentive to make kits cross-compatible, on the contrary, that could mean that they will support their enemy team at their own cost. For this reasons Daemons will receive only bare minimum of support, just enough for playerbase to not sperg out, until they get their own 40k dedicated models incompatible with the rest.Even stuff like White Dwarf and Warhammer Community competes with each other. They won't share resources. Each team will take a separate photo of this same mini, from this same angle to put in an article.>Primaris and later Contrast paints saved GWIn spite of above, it's only thanks to them that GW could afford to experiment with other stuff like WHFB again, instead of only scrapping by and making Marines. They were 4 weeks away from declaring bankruptcy until Primaris saved them.
I'm used to Balanced weaponsIf I use Fencing for this one, does it put a perfect parry window basically on this same level as I'm used to with Balanced in normal missions?I'm not sure why it's filtering me so hard even, just can't beat it
>>543223941fencing is still gimped af too but its easier because the timing is instant
>>543223941NoFencing has an instant parry window, and while I'm not sure exactly how much this modifier reduces the window by it will retain the instant reaction and end earlier. Balanced will keep the long startup, then have a relatively short window after that. Block also retains its instant trigger but is the shortest.The startup is what makes balanced the hardest type to land, and it becomes a lot harder with surgical strike. Even with the modifier, if you use block/fencing, you just press just as the attack is about to hit and get it easily.
>>543223941honestly i just used heavy and the window felt shorter on the tail end but also felt like it came up faster almost as though it were fencing so idkJust parry shit on reaction unless its a big delayed jump attack
>>543223941The fact that we don't have a Practice Arena ensures these devs can just nerf parry timings and spam Surgical Strikes to make weekly stratagems needlessly difficulty.
>shadow of the warp>on Obelisk
>>543210374this looks like shit and plays even worse
>>543210374>being team up with demo players above ruthlessabsolutely horrifying. you would think saber would be sane enough to disable hard modes in the demo. i'm glad i skipped playing this week.
???
>>543230582>???you (as in y'all) decided to melee the same enemy and found out
Should ammo restoration be in class perks, weapon perks, or prestige perks?
>>543218554>he doesn't know what weapons scouts have access toyou should have just shut the fuck up like three replies ago, nigger
>>543231579Idc, sniper is a perfectly fine class now but if you want to change the name, leave of the rest of the class be.
>>543232117>sniper is a perfectly fine class nowNo he isn'tget the fuck out grigori
>>543232305Sorry bro the class doesn't play how you want to it to play in your head. However, sniper has all the tools needed to play any content in the game well. It's the most complete class without being extremely broken like the bulwark
>>543232117sniper is far from fine
>>543232586Maybe before but he can barely damage Chaos spawns or the Vortex beast.
>>543232761He does just fine against chaos spawn with block knife or with bolt carbine. Of course his priority is rubric and flying tzaangor if he run sniper rifles, which he can always go into cloak to snipe. However, block knife kills every chaos spawn in one combo with 2 andrenalone stacks even on hard stratagem.Sniper is not good against vortex beast, but so are like most classes in the game. It's a grind of a fight so you just shoot it with bolt carbine as much as you can and melee when it is aggro someone else. Sniper can always take aggro in the fight for the damage dealer as well since you can cloak to recover hp if you make mistakes in dodging.
>>543232673Yea, he's great even. He is good in multiple ways without relying in a single perk like vanguard
>>543213832It actually is. You can shred terminus enemies...if you can hit their heads.
>>543233407The hardest part about a terminus fight is navigating through the guaranteed majoris and extremist summons while dealing with the terminus at the same. Sniper with cloak and good range is simply great in dealing with that situation. You can either aggro the terminus (if you are solid with terminus moveset and melee mechanic) or you can deal with the majoris and extremist. In hard strat/absolute, if you get to the point that only the terminus remains, you basically already won the fight most of the time.
>>543223010> makes a comment about daemons> somehow agro a schizo anon who goes on rant with charts
>>543230871Anon means the attack where the carnifex pulls out its claws hitting him from a mile and a half away.
>>543231061Class perks. And it should be early on (aka first row). Whether tied to kills, melee attacks, parries or war gear. Every class needs some level of ammo economy that you should need to play around.Tac's setup should be the blueprint for everyone elses.
>>543236607Carniflex pull out game is strong
>>543238489Then how do you fit in multiple that give flat amounts vs % of total to incentivize lower ammo capacity versions?
Fuck Chaos Spawn and fuck Tzaangor Spearmen. Fuck how worthless bolt weapons are against Chaos now.Fighting tyranids is the only time this game is fun and all weapons are viable.
>>543238645By using mag size as the baseline return. Sure youll get less mileage with stuff like the single shot inferno pistol but you arent just popping off with those often outside gunstriking.
>>543231061I think ammo recovery option is just right for every class now except for vanguard. Tact is all offense glass cannon so he has the best option. Sniper is 2nd best and the value feels just right. Heavy has such a strong weapon option that his option should be a bit weaker, which it is currently. Bulwark/assault don't really need it as melee centric class (I don't even use my bulwark ammo prestige perk). Vanguard is an odd one out because he is supposed to be a balance between range and melee but he has no ammo recovery option at all.
>>543183081You know that and I know that, but the investors don't, and thanks to America (Dodge v. Ford Motor Co., 1919) all publicly traded businesses are legally obliged to lick investor asses first and foremost, even if it hurts the company.
Got the req point heavy plasma and xeno blade. Is there anything else worth getting or is it better to save up for next patch?
>>543246135Thunder Hammer is going to drop a shock grenade on your feet every time you get a charge attack out, and the Bolt Sniper is going to have ammo regen on headshots. Others aren't worth the effort to unlock ala "HBP instantly stops reinforcement calls" or "Instigator Carbine gets 2 extra rounds in the burst"
>>543240367>no ammo restoration on vanguardthis would feel so much worse if bolt carbines didn't have ammo out of the ass
>>5432461353shot bolt pistol is good for bulwark and assault
>>543246135Here's the perks for upcoming weapons Brother. You choose.
>>543246836>>543247042Those sound nice>>543246998Haven't played those yet so might get that for bulwark since I have xeno
>>543246998Is it? People here generally seem disappointed by it.
>>543246975Bolt carbine ammo is okay but not so plentiful that you can get by without ammo regen. You need more than half to kill a majoris in hard stratagem. Even i run out of ammo version bolt carbine sometimes when I run it on sniper, which has the 2nd best ammo regen in the game.
Any tips for MP, which weapons to use? Best newbie classes? Getting my shit kicked in on everything
>>543249409Stop trying to fight 5 majoris at once
>>543249409>Best newbie classes?vanguard has an extended parry window and two healing perks. and access to melta, but you should learn not to rely on it as a panic button to get out of melee.
>>543250037>vanguard has an extended parry windowI have 800 hours and I like using this on block weapons with Vanguard because it shifts the parry window into borderline identical to fencing. You get the best of both worlds.
>>543247042>"Perfect Parry window increases by {STRING}\nAfter a Gun Strike, the equipped Weapon is completely cooled"What? A gimmick that makes sense? They will make the stats worse than purple variant to compensate, won't they
AWW HELL NAH
>>543250176my guy, u have 800 hours and u still rely on fencing window?
>>543249390I get by on Vanguard but I try to conserve ammo and just melee when I can afford to. I also like to get a lot of mileage out of Zone of Impact.
>>543250519Yes, because a horde for me is free armor. Staying alive is a lot more important than DPS. Vanguard is the only class I entertain block on and it's purely because of his 50% larger window via the perk.t. completed every mission on Absolute and completed every single hard Strat weekly so far.
>>543250939>Staying alive is a lot more important than DPSI agree, but there are two better defensive perks on the same column IMO. Vanguard already gets a shit ton of armor from prestige perks.
>>543250864Yea, you have to conserve ammo vanguard much more than other classes (except the true melee classes). It's rough that vanguard doesn't have strong melee perk to help with melee either. The only melee advantage he really has is the having the power axe.
>>543251167If you're using the grapnel build, I find you can't really spaff it in an emergency like you can with Vanguard normally, like something goes bad at the beginning of a fight, you have no armor and you're getting shredded so you just zip to a target, because on more than one occasion I did that when the prestige perks dropped and was left with no way to start ranged executes. Being able to pimp slap gaunts for free turkeys is just life saving.
Ultratemplar
I lost like 30 times on this hard Termination stratagem. Farthest we got was that sewer right before connecting to those 2 systems. I give up
>>543253445Me and a team got all the way to the wall, just past the elevator. Got instantly swarmed and the Vanguard fucking choked, somehow missing the two Biovores I fought like Hell to put in the red. They revived, saturated the area with mines, and his dumbass died, failing the mission.
>>543253445If it's 30 times, you are probably the weak link unfortunately, especially for a fairly easy stratagem.
>>543253963probablyI only have Vanguard on 4th prestige and 25lvl and it's the only Class I'm trying to beat it with. It feels like I'm constantly on the verge of losing armor. Not a single moment of respite, enemies constantly spawn, we can't even move forward properly. It feels like there are far more enemy spawns than on a normal Absolute, but it's probably just me coping. If Neurothrope spawns we may as well restart, it's an unbeatable hard filter.
>>543255334Neurothrope is probably the easiest terminus to deal with in the whole game. You just keep distance/break as much LOS as possible and run away from the green circle as you take care of everything else. You can hear when it target you with either the orb bomb beam, which you.can run around cover most of the time. If does the AOE lighting around it, it will lower itself near the ground right after for the expanding AOE, which you just dodge and go to the center to beat it up. If you are struggling, focus on clearing everything else and ignore the neurothrope until it gives the sign or going to the ground and doing the AOE.
auspex heroic plasma moment
>>543256364As for the orb and the laser, here are the tricks. Orbs are coming in 3, right one curve left, left curve right, and then a straight. You usually only need to I framedodge into one (preferably right into the 1st one), and the others usually miss. For laser, you can sprint perpendicular to it to dodge it as you as you aren't too close. Imo, despite being a range centric boss, neuro actually has less threatening range than other 2 terminus bosses. Carniflex can decide you sniper you across the map with no warning with spike volleys that are borderline impossible to dodge fully and insta kill if you don't dodge at all (because you can't even see it coming). Hellbrute has warning for shots but his projectiles are faster with better accuracy and can combo into each other for insta kill and the big shot is insta kill while leaving a cancer trail on the ground.
>>543256595That's more of a Bolter moment with how little damage you're getting out of headshots+auspex
>>543255334>Neurothrope spawns we may as well restart, it's an unbeatable hard filterI did this with a buddy earlier this week and it wasn't that bad, although by all accounts we should have lost. We got back to back Neurothrope spawns right before the sewers, and then in the sewers itself. I was a vanguard, my friend was a heavy, and a random bulwark joined mid game. Between my occulus carbine and his heroic heavy plasma, damage on the Neurothrope wasn't a big problem, it was mainly the extremis assholes that accompanied the second one, as we got a combination of Raveners and Lictors that had a real fetish for trying to grab you, and several times after on the way to the bio-titan we had several groups of Biovores skitter in and make life miserable.TLDR, Neurothropes aren't that bad, even with no sniper or tactical, but bad extremis RNG can still fuck you. Bring an instigator or occulus carbine and have a plasma (heroic or not) or bolter heavy with you. As for how you fight it, other anons have explained that, probably better than I could.
>>543256595Does the Heldrake actually take extra headshot damage?
>iron halo can't even block thrope beamsThis class is genuinely fucking useless
>>543249336it has slightly better dps the HBP, is 100% hipfire accurate and is better at restoring chp then HBP.it just chews through ammo faster.
>>543258020nta but what makes you think he doesn't?
>>543255334>If Neurothrope spawns we may as well restart, it's an unbeatable hard filter.I literally soloed it with relic plasma on heavy lol
>>543257991but it does
>>543258916But it doesn't
>>543247042What do you think they will do with HBR for its Heroic variant?
I’m gonna be the exorcistfag is chaos in my bunghole a fitting name?
>try out thunderhammer again after months of only using the chainsword / powersword>it's actually so insanely slow i feel myself aging waiting for swings to finish>have to interrupt half my swings to block or dodge shitSpeed is the only stat that mattersNever using the garbagehammer again
>>543259652>Devs could easily fix the thunder hammer's slow swing speed with features like a defensive lighting field that shocks enemies about to attack you, or you get the equivalent of heavy stance with improved cHP regen, or an energy shield of some kind>Devs are uncreative slavs
>>543259032have it make farting noises to accompany bolt weapon's awful damage
>>543260027they should make some animations immune to minoris blue attacks, because you know, ur a fucking space marine swinging a huge fuck ass hammer. you canget stagger immunity from majoris+ hits but when a goober minoris jumps on u apparently it's just an unstoppable force
>>543260551the fact a little gaunt jumping on you isn't just like autoparried is ridiculousespecially when you consider we're 2nd company ultramarines, even colored differently
>>543259652Works on my machine (fencing)
>>543261745whats even the point of fencing hammer. aftershock doesn´t scale with speed at all.
>>543261745uhm sweaty fencing doesnt change aftershock or ground slams speed
>>543262413>>543262864Yeah but I hit things and don't die, which is kind of the point of a weapon
>>543263420Smart choice Brother. Surviving is much better than dying.
>>543188469 >>543189178 >>543156579 >>543157057 >>543157839gay furry faggot zoomer spic
>>543257943Yes
>>543263420ok but what does it being fencing have anything to do with the charging speed on hammers heavy attacks?
>>543259652Use the Balance hammer, make sure youre packing a super armor perk ANYWHERE. Lead with the pommel smash into the double ground slam. Learn to use the quickcharge aftershock as a means of staggering enemies giving you a chance to lead into big damage.Balance hammer has good cleave and decent speed as a tradeoff to the block damage stacks. I prefer it with the hammer because like you I felt like the slow speed made it a liability.
The laurels on the mk 7 kinda ruin the helmet for me. Feels off on any chapter that isnt smurfs and their succesors.
spess muhreens?
Can anyone who HAS NOT completed the Weekly Hard see if the game has it marked as being completed? I went and looked and for some reason mine has a check, but I KNOW I didn't finish that bullshit.
>>543265253The fact they don't release a 'base' version alongside blinged out one speaks volumes about their incompetence and overall laziness. I mean, why bother spending extra 30 seconds on removing parts of a model when you don't need to do it at all!
>>543264683It means you can parry things without eating shit
>do super well in lane>lane partner gets every single kill despite not contributing much>by 20 minutes I'm 0-3 and look like a retard and they're 5-1 despite doing fuck alllove it
This should unironically be one of assaults prestige perks replacing the one that does the same thing but only the stagger immunity.
>>543265458You seem to be in the wrong general, assfaggot
>>543265291we are the SPESS MUHREENSour enemies DIEEEEE
>>543265439They also need to enable accesories like hoods. It's criminal that only one hood is available in the game and its tied to DA.
>>543266961no you're not supposed to do both the lines codex astartes names this steehl reehn
>>543267123>They also need to enable accesories like hoods. It's criminal that only one hood is available in the game and its tied to DA.I absolutely agree. Also pic related is bare minimum that should've been in the game or what should be made into fabled customization 'overhaul'. I'm not even talking about RGB slider, because GW would lose their collective marbles and never green light that idea, but anything less than deep wargear selection and combination is going to be pure neglect on Saber's part (not that I expect them to pull through with this).
>>543259652it has a relatively high skill floor but is genuinely one of the best melee weapons in the game
>>543265573You are straight up dumb because stagger immunity is straight up better than lmao extra 10%
>>543229831takes a bit of practice to get used to
>>543268723Oh nvm, that perk has both so it is better yea. It would be nice on assauly
>>543268723I swear you faggots dont play the game they do the same fucking thing except that tac gets more melee and gunstrike damage. How the fuck is tacs not better?
>>543269123>>543265573A class tree perk slot worth more than a prestige perk slot to be fair.
>>543269385that same perk shows up in other trees, but without the added melee and gunstrike damage.
>>543269385Some prestige perks are strong as fuck while some are straight dogshit. Prestige perks should be as fuck since they require you to grind out your class again 4 fucking times. It's like saber is afraid of giving players things that are strong.
Hard Stratagems are not fun. Somehow we made it. It was down to the wire mid mission. Sniper sucked ass, but the Vanguard held it down. Solo'd the Lictor and finished off the Neurothrope. I don't think it could properly path to him with all the elevation changes in the arena, so he was able to circle it and whittle away at the Majoris. We also only had like 1 Biovore. Got really lucky with the spawns.
>>543269906surgical strike is a force multiplier for the bullshit overtuned lictor that somehow takes like 4x the health of a normal lictor in damage before it will fuck off
>>543270158I was able to get off max charged punches with 2x adrenaline on it multiple times it was never really a factor. It also only really spawned in at break points in the level before doors and elevators.
Quickly Brothers! The Warp is consuming this Battle-barge. Migrate to the new one!>>543270456>>543270456>>543270456
>>542940372Use the Victrix helmet.
