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>>542950848She's so pretty...
i wasnt able to wait for a new cotw sale, wolfpack... i already bought granpoo... awwroo...
>>542950848Nice.
>"To begin with, Producer Oda wasn't a central figure at the old SNK, but he's the one in charge of KOF production at the current SNK, so it's only natural that the KOF influence will be stronger."I'm amused by all the Oda hate by you "Kyo" diehards. Ultimately, he's YOUR man.
>>542960012>so it's only natural that the KOF influence will be strongerlol
This latest update to CotW has been fantastic.
>>542950848
ShiBRAPnui Mai
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1978454502962323614Based Mai
https://x.com/miharasan/status/1978734893275226437Man, I never realized how influential Itagaki really was
>>542976942He became quite irrelevant after he left Team Nnija in 2008. So yeah, no wonder you forgot how popular he was back then.
>>542960012>but he's the one in charge of KOF production at the current SNK, so it's only natural that the KOF influence will be stronger.That's the total opposite of what SNK have been doing in their games and marketing material ever since Oda took over, which is shilling Terry and the Fatal Fury ip in every single opportunity. Looking back even the KOFXIV roster was already giving signs of what was coming
>>542950848Hey OP you FUCKING RETARD please tell me the game where THAT Mai comes from. Is it City of the Wolves? KOF XV? KOF XVI? Maximim Impact-...? Oh WAIT haha! That's Mai from CAPKEK'S STREET SLIMER 6 YOU TOTAL FUCKING MORON.>noooo but muh coomslut 3D souless slopchop chop master onion!!!You are not a member of the Wolf Pack and this is NOT a thread for members of the Wolf Pack. This is now a CAPKEK thread to discuss "bing bing standing fierce WAHOOO slime attack! AWOOGA free damage! grab, grab, grab!"Kick yourself in the teeth by snapping your leg and hitting yourself with it, fucking CAPKEK retardAWROOOOO
>>542995404Feel free to create your own general schizo, let's see how many people post on it
Taunting should build meter and reduce overheat
>>542976942>>542978681I think the last game he worked on was that Wii U game, Devil's Third.
You now remember the K'ing of Raidens
So, both of Rock's parents suck and abandoned him.
>>542911942She already hit her upper limit for aging. In profile for Perfect she wasn't aged up a year like everyone else because the Jeanne d'Arc was already executed by what her age would have been.
>>543013441He's also credited in that Samurai Jack action game as "Supreme Advisor"
EX moves, and most especially Rev Blow should do way more meter. So that I and others can be forced to do/think up other combos instead of the same one/two that does 70% of health, invalidating the reason to do any others besides very specific circumstances. Rev Blow honestly shouldn't even be in the game at all. It's really pointless, annoying, and only there because SNK wanted to have a Drive Impact equivalent. But as long as it's here, doing one should build up the Rev Meter by 35%. Doing a Rev Blow within 3 seconds of a previous one should be an instant-Overheat.
>>543017473But that's not heckin hype bros know talmbout you gotta have da OD combos with da DAMAGE bro and da REEDS bro
>>542995404BAAAAAAASED BASED BASED
Reminder that DecepySwag is a paid shill who's job is to detract from actual criticism and actively does so in both twitter and in these threads.The only reason he's on SNK's payroll is because no other company would give him the time of the day because of how irrelevant he is.If you ever see some retard aggressively defend the game here or post about "3 years in EWC" it's most likely this subhuman.
Damn this person sure did make a lot of Leona doujins. Honestly didn't realize they were still making more.
>>543021695well, hope he knows that i'm his antithesis
>>543017473Any more suggestions, iron pup?
>>543017473EX and super meter being 2 different things was the biggest mistake SF4 ever introduced into the genre. But this game needs it's drooling baby low effort combo slop because anything more difficult than that will get panned as ableist and banned from being sold.
>>543003505Angel SPH!
>>543021695SNK community on twitter is filled with many braindead shills on that platform
COTW is extreme damage comboslop designed for the dumbest most gorilla nigger stupid FGC "hypebeasts" who never actually play a single game other than dix for more than 2 hours. And it still fucking failed to generate an audience. Complete failure of a product, I hope everyone involved in development dies.
>>543043532Bird!
>>543049537They (liars like Nabil and Max) said SNK had to dumb the games down to attract new players. "I thenk oddocombos are a good theng to bring in more playursh" - Nabil. Well, the games flopped. We told them. Gameplay, graphics, soul, and content = sales. Not quick modern slop. These fanboy influencers and their followers kill their own games. And SNK are retarded for listening to them.
>>543028391SF4 is still leagues better than every single fighting game after it, incl every Capcom fighter. What modern devs have done is retardified moment to moment gameplay, which used to be full of mind games, but is now shallow as a puddle. Then, they slapped on tons of unnecessarily convoluted combo meter mechanics to say "see! it has depth, too!" What then happens is the game becomes about the convoluted, broken mechanics. Remember, these are so-called professional developers doing this. This is their life, and they still have no clue how to do what people in the SAME companies solved 30 years ago.
>>543017473You are correct. I'd go further and say Rev Blow and Block don't even need to be in the game. There's already JD and Guard Cancels for the latter, and there's already EX moves, dodge movies, and invincible DPs for the first. But if they have to be in, like you said: doing it twice per round should put you in Overheat. Period. Take those out and the game is really good.
>>543057071>>543058017Video games being produced by giant companies with 40 departments and millions in advertisements was a horrible mistake, the industry peaked when most games were made by 20 guys all doing 2 or 3 jobs because they genuinely love what they do instead of 500 people who relate to Office Space
>>543058539Rev Blow as an alternative combo ender/filler is fine, because it serves the same purpose as TOP did in MOTW. Turning it into DI + Focus Attack + 1 button Guard Cancel all in one button with almost no cost or risk associated with it is retarded. Rev Guard just feels like a last minute addition, where they realize the top 3 cast can just endlessly put you in blockstun with no hope of GCing because they made all their offense air tight so they just borrowed every anime games meter block mechanic. Except they tied it to a macro that makes you backdash so trying to do it can get you fucking killed for no reason.
>>543058970>Rev Blow as an alternative combo ender/filler is fineI'm anti RB, but I like that about it. Agree with the rest of your post as well. How could SNK not see this. That's the problem. Joke devs, just like the rest.
>>543059468They're devs with no passion, their only directive is to follow trends and meet the guidelines of whatever higher ups push on them with no real core leader to push back. Oda didn't have the balls to push for a vision, out of fear that he'd be replaced by whatever local yes man would agree to every asinine request from disenfranchised SNK execs and saudi princes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsa-7wV5wWYReminder that KOFXV looked and animated SO SHIT that Aris counted it as a positive because he thought that the game didn't take itself seriously
>>543058539I always find myself saying that the game would be more popular if SNK made the game "just like MotW". But that's wrong because they would've already flocked to MotW after all this time. So I'm skeptical of people that want to strip out mechanics because that'll lead to the same path as mine.
>>543060264You can't say Oda and the devs of CotW don't have a vision, just because you don't like the vision.
>>543062227You mean the product that can't decide whether it wants to old school with JD/HD or modern with Rev, whether it wants to sell to esports fanatics or sports combat normies or whether it wants to have a MotW adjacent or early FF aesthetic, actually had a vision all this time?If so, do tell. What is their vision?
Kyo won btw
>>543063027All that marketing was probably done independently on the Saudi side. Honestly don't know what's up with that, LOL. Anyway, it's a sequel to MotW with callbacks to early FF. But there's this theme of "outrunning the circle of time", getting out of vicious cycles of violence. So yeah the aesthetic is lighter/brighter. You gotta look at it as a sequel to MotW. Mechanics-wise, it's an expansion of MotW. Not just long combos, they gave everyone guard crush blockstrings that only a few characters could do reliably in MotW. So of course, they naturally added HD's to help defend against the mixing of long and short combos/blockstrings. Yet as a modern game, they added scrub defense mechanics REV Guard and REV Blow to compensate when they had to nerf JD/GC and nerf invincible backdashes.
>>543049537kek
Funny how city of the Wolves is supposed to be Rock's game but all I want is to get one last adventure in south town focused on the three that started it all. Then again is there even anyone that's a big enough threat for current Terry, Andy, and Joe?
>>543075838Is this another case of Oda wanting Terry to be the face of SNK? Then again, didn't Shun'ei get similar treatment in XIV and XV?
>>543075838THE BIG THREE>>543076118terry is an icon nigga
>>543076184I feel like people known him more from King of Fighters, Capcom vs. SNK, or Smash Bros. than his own series. Though, I guess that's what happens when your series is dormant for over 20 years.
CoTW is genuinely a beautiful game but they really needed to play with the angles and lighting a bit more, make it look more dynamic to really take advantage of that comic-book style they were going for. The presentation looks so...flat. And it kind of sucks because a few tweaks and this shit could look better than most things on the market.
games needs more particles like you only get to see them when just defending
>>543085625>CoTW is genuinely a beautiful gameMan shut up lol
>>543086571not that anon, but i've never seen a more asspained poster than you. camping out in a thread to disagree every time someone says anything remotely positive about cotw is very pathetic.
>>543086571it is thothe aesthetics, the art direction and the designs are aaathe game itself as a fighter has the most smooth gameplay of them alli still dont get how tf could they fuck it up so badfuck turks btw
>>543086794>the aesthetics, the art direction and the designs are aaaYeah you're trolling lol.Reading this just makes me more happy the game died. I think you SNK fans need therapy at this point.
>>543087429dead game getting 3 seasons of dlc. run back to whatever hole you crawled out of.
>>543087429you must be in love with sf6's caveman ken thenactually thats a good comparison, our ken looks so fucking good compared to that piece of crap capcom vomited back then
~hate to say i told you so (alright)~
>>543087816I don't even like how SF6 looks. Fuck that realistic garbage look
kino scene
>>543088336play doo slop>>543088334godlike
snk really is like aew where the fanboys are trying to talk it up like it's a premium product and nobody else in the world cares lol
Babe wake up, someone is playing outside the meta and they lost nevermind
>>543024534This artist really loves Leona, it's a shame his>>543021695 newer doujins are hard to find outside of Japan.
Compared to KOF14 and KOF15, the animations and models from COTW and Samsho are very good. Which just shows how retarded and lazy SNK were to reuse stuff from a bad foundation (KOF14) in KOF15. I guess Oda really don't care about KOF at all, only Fatal Fury and Terry matters to him.
>>543061638>retarded e-celeb is retardedhuh
>>543122731I think you're missing the main problem here.
Awrooooooooooo
The fighting games these companies spew out aren't even worth $60-70
>>543122731I mean Aris IS right about KOFXV being animated like shit, do you want to deny that as well?
>>543086794>the art directionI don't think the comic aesthetic was pulled off very well and I don't even know why they would go that direction to begin with. It's not as ugly as mvc3 but it's still pretty ugly, except here COTW has nothing to do with a comic aesthetic. Maybe they needed an easy way to do cutscenes, came up with the comic thing, and then decided that the whole game should be comic book-y to justify it.
>>543086794So if all of those are fine to you what did they fuck up then?
>>543138230MVC3 graphics were decent for its time, and the visuals in that game aged better than shit like Injustice 1, which came later in the gen
>>543086205Literally ps2 game. Look at Silent Hill 3 models and compare.
SNk’s next games:>Art of Fighting 4Flop>KoFXVIFlop>another final try with FFFlop>They go bankrupt again and close for good
>>543017473The same one/two combos probably wouldn't be that bad if we could actually get to see 97% of the rest of the roster and their same combos too often, instead of Hotaru, Kain, and Hokutomaru all the fucking time. Seeing the same characters doing the same shit over and over every 2nd match will make people really over it.
>>543153594Silent Hill 3 is literally one of the most graphically impressive games from the 6th generation, imagine comparing that masterpiece to Slop of the Wolves
SIUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>543154042Did Samurai Shodown 2019 do that bad to not warrant another game?
>>543164617He left it out for a reason. Why do you think they're making an RPG for it?
>>543164617Samurai Shodown is the best selling SNK game so far, which is impressive considering how much SNK tried to make it fail.
I hope the system-mechanics get tweaked too when Chun-Li is released, and not just Characters getting nerfed/buffed. But honestly I don't expect that to happen until the first Season 2 character.
>>543164617As he said >>543165424I left it out because the RPG will never come out.
>COTW: 125 Current Players>KOFXV: 158 Current PlayersThe power of Joe...
xv deserved more seasonsweird as hell how they introduced more defensive mechanics and 2 classic characters like rugals bitches and then ended its support wtf snk
>>543192141I guess they really wanted Fatal Fury: COTW to succeed and decided to put all their focus on that.
just play kofxv instead of begging for seasons. goddamn.
>>543192397how were they going to accomplish that, by releasing a barebone game? todays cotw is a decent version of it unlike the alpha trash they decided to launch some months ago>>543192657>la creatura neverno thanks
>>543192141I mean it's clear SNK cancelled Season 3 to make the team focus on the development of COTW, Vice and Mature character models are too good to be the only content they planned out to finish the game. The ironic thing is that Oda really thought betting everything on Terry shilling and billboards would make COTW their Strive moment, I wonder how he's feeling right now lol.
Focus should be on the next KOF game after season 2 of COTW. Cancel that 3rd season
>>543195939Focus should be on YOU, KILLING YOURSELF WITH A HOT METAL PIPE, RETARD. Season 2 isn't over yet. There's still Chink-Lee and Mr. Big Boost. It's not over. STFU and wait for the trailers we are so back AWROOO fake fans need not apply fake fans like Kyoschizo and Steamchartsschizo and Capkekschizo ruind sicussueudvauVsonansgGAYSB>>543192898loli SEXO
>>543193979>to make the team focus on the development of COTW The correct choice to make, considering how much support CotW still needs versus how well KOFXV is doing. The real problem is SNK's FG-only support cycle of just 3 years. Closer to an NRS game's support than Capcom or BamCo's usual 7-9 years of support.
……………………….salvatore
>>543201906COTW's legacy will just be WatchMojo videos about the Top 10 Weirdest Fighting Game Characters
>>543203450>WatchMojoThat sounds terrible.
>>543198921You're right. Once they come out, they'll be so successful that SNK will cancel KOF forever and Fatal Fury will be their main fighting game from now on.
https://www.youtube.com/live/7NJt5FBUl6g?si=lgzC1QUXLNYtx1Mp
>>543198921>Season 2 isn't over yet. There's still Chink-Lee and Mr. Big Boost.They're gonna make us pay for season 2 characters right?You guys gonna buy the characters?
>>543218285as a waifugod id only pay for female characters so no pass buying for me, also since this game is such a gay ass saucefest guess ill be buying every dlc girl that comes out instead of only the ones i like just to support the game
>>543218631Apart from Blue Mary, I don't see them adding in many females sadly
>>543219023kasumi??
Gato bros T_T
Damn Xiaohai is 36. Looks young.
Yay~
>>543193979>I mean it's clear SNK cancelled Season 3it's much more likely KOFXV didn't even do well enough to even warrant a 3rd season so they had to cut their losses and move on the next projectThis narrative that KOFXV was this extremely successful game that got it's potential cut short abruptly is a very comical one, and it's one born of copium.
>>543234384explain then why it is outperforming your godlike project you fucking moron
>>543234384KOFXV's potential was cut short the moment SNK decided to reuse shitty models and assets from KOFXIV, slapped on a cartoon filter, and called it a day. 6 years of waiting between games... and the end result was big body tiny head Ryo. The fact that Fatal Fury of all franchises got a bigger budget than a fucking mainline KOF entry is the proof Oda is a extremely retarded and biased man who can't let go of the past.
>>543238564Did it have a bigger budget? Honestly didn't feel like it. XV was weird, certain characters looked good others horrible.
>>543250314Obviously not. None of SNK's new games have big budgets.
Did Xiaohai just win million dollar tourney?heard no one talking about it?
>>543250314COTW is clearly not a AAA title, but unlike KOF XV, all character were created from scratch. The animations are superior, the chi and aura effects are improved (surprisingly these look worse in KOF XV than in KOF XIV), and the stages and character models are visually better.It's a fact SNK invested significantly more in COTW than in KOF XV, to the point of Oda even committing to support the game for whole three years before its release, despite not knowing how well the game would do in the long run to make this feasible.
>>543255596No one cares about SNK anymore get a grip
>>543256724I'm also kind of surprised they bothered to give the game an English dub, and it's not English actors living in Japan like KOF XII had.
3 YEARSSSSSSSSSSSS
I miss KOFAS
>>543238564All factual, except the last line. The budgets should get bigger with each game. Problem is, their mistakes did, too.>>543234384This is also true. XV flopped as well, which had a knock on effect for the next game.
>>543231140kek
>>543218285>You guys gonna buy the characters?I'd buy them if:>all have their own stage>no IRL guests in the season>no mobile game, Tencent guests>no fan creations like Nadj>the leaked list with Alfred and Ryo is false
>>543086794>"the aesthetics, the art direction and the designs are aaa">No light sourcing on energy attacks.>Barely any wind physics during moves>Barely any hair physics>Background NPCs are mostly glued to the floor; don't walk around or do anything>Barely any particle effects>Facial animation is 18 years out of date>Camera movement during supers is amateurish (almost no close cuts, no tricks to add impact to moves)>Menus apart from select screen and main menu are cheap>Select screen isn't even in Arcade mode>No reflections on water (eg: Mai stage)>No dazzling effects to interact with during gameplay (reflective puddles, things breaking, objects bouncing from high impact moves that were in fgs almost 20 years ago.>No fine details from old games like sweat flying on hard hits>Boring camera work during reg gameplay (static during throws and panning)>Versus screen is just catching up to shitty SFV from 10 years ago.There's more. And this is from a guy who plays all the time.
>>543086205It's nu snk's first good looking game that only looks top tier if you're in a bubble and don't actually play AAA games. On that stage alone, there should've been trains going by on the bridge above, lighting up the buildings, scenery, and characters like in MotW. Shit like that takes it to another level.
>>543086505This. Not gonna happen, though.
>>543063027Correct^.
>>543061638He thought it was being bad ironically, when it's just bad. I remember that vid.
>>543276427>It's nu snk's first good looking game Debatable, I still think Samsho 2019 is unmatched on this department>>543275843>Menus apart from select screen and main menu are cheapAgain, another thing KOFXIV did well but for some reason both XV and COTW fucked up, with the later looking like it was made in Microsoft Excel 2010
Oda could’ve asked Saudis for a bigger budget but he didn’t because it was beyond his experience to create something like SF6 and Tekken budget wise and they would need to hire new developers and retrain the current petz staff, meaning atleast two extra years of work. He still thinks with the arcade era mentality of shitting games quickly and hoping one would succeed
>>543279226>Debatable, I still think Samsho 2019 is unmatched on this departmentGood point. FF overall, though, for consistency
>Accel gear Rock that mashes Rev Blow on every gap because his blow is throw immune after 5 framesThese people need to be euthanized. Counter hits and counter throws on rev blow should deal double damage.
>>543284975Well, did it?
Kyo won
>>543285486The game is full of stupid shit like this. I can't believe anyone defends this garbage
>>543288685Babymode scrub mechanics have become the standard so any match that isn't a top 8 at a massive event are just coinflips to make sure the gambling addicts don't leave, but they already have sub 1600 SF6 to play so none of them actually stick around except the incredibly poor.
You know what would have been cool? Instead of generic cutscene supers with a universal input, if SPG let you use 1 bar for level 2 supers, and gave everyone a brakeable level 2 like Power Geyser. Then instead of a comeback mechanic you can actually show off the most basic of input skill and brake your super into an extension into another super, so you risk going overheat if you get lost in the sauce or drop the combo. But no, instead we get the tamest 10 second cutscenes in the world and a free overheat escape.
https://x.com/snk_esports_hub/status/1979829898945683612this was sick
>>543298805>Literally no difference between this interaction and just regular blockingwow yeah so cool a regular punish on a blocked wakeup super is so hype and unique
>>543299952retard
>>543300045Billy wasn't in chip range and had plenty of meter, and even some bars of super even if he WAS in overheat. The JD meant NOTHING because nothing changes if he just regular blocked, and doing multihit JDs isn't impressive because it's incredibly easy so long as you get the first JD due to the slowdown between hits. Game sucks, find better clips.
>>543300974retard doesn't even know how the mechanic works. if your simple simon ass actually looked at the screen you would see an obvious benefit of jding. now fuck out my mentions. cotw rocks.
>>543301171>simple simon ass>muh mentionsFuck off zoomer, SNK games are for olds only.
COTW really needs some shitheel villains in it's roster
>>543303350don't ask for him. they'll make him kiss puppies and hold hands too
Here you external consultant, mr.Oda.
>>543285995Not at all. In-fact the one thing it did was absolutely destroy all of SNK's remaining goodwill, and reputation. Now they're explicitly made fun of and shit on, when they weren't before. Which is a death-knell for a company like them, one that is already niche and not that talked about. No-one really respects nor takes them seriously as much anymore. The only way they will climb out of the hole they're in is if COTW gets a Tekken 7/SFV type turn-around, or the next game SNK puts out is great in all fields.
>>543255596No, the millions one is snk world championship,this one was Snk championship
>>543312501They need to step out this genre for a while. I don't think this something that can just be fixed with a fighter, especially one made by the current devs.
>>543313947So, their next project should be a new Metal Slug or should they try a new Ikari Warriors or Athena game?
https://x.com/FATALFURY_PR/status/1980091603499786267
>>543318698A metroidvania remake/sequel to Athena would have been a smart idea.
>>543327930I have a better idea! How about a Terry metroidvania instead?
cotw is winning game of the year, and this thread is going to go nuts. nen impact is ass, 2xko is worse mechanically and has no single player content/less characters.
>>543297890>Instead of generic cutscene supers with a universal inputReminder that Max complained to SNK that hidden gears had unique inputs, so they changed them to please him. His beef? "people couldn't do them on first try".
chun li trailer this monday (today) or the next.
Will they do the same for Chun Li? They also normally don't let people play a character this early before the targeted release-window, so it's leading some to believe they might be doing something similar.
>>543341218I'm worried about DLC dumping. But honestly, seems like releasing the DLC characters + discount sale on the week of big tourneys has been a good strategy for them. And there aren't any really big tourneys until next year after, so SWC is their best chance to do the same with Chun Li.
>>543342537>dlc dumpingthis was always the schedule since the game's dlc was announced.
>>543334939>2xko is worse mechanically and has no single player content/less charactersStill has more players. Still making more money. Wtf is your point
>>543343036the game with the most players does not always win the geoff awards. >still making more moneyslobbering retard caring about this as a consumer.
People are resentful of JD/HD/GC being too hard and then being forced to rely on the scrub mechanics REV Blow, REV Guard, and invincible reversal.
>invincible reversal>scrub mechanicsOPEN THE SCHOOLS
>>543334939>thread is going to go nutsNo one will give a fuck. You fucking SNK retards
>>543318698They should get people who know how to make games first.
>>543343036You guys can't get off SNK when they release a game with minimal content but it's okay when others do it. Bunch of lying roaches the fgc is.
blue mary, duck king, jae hoon, rick strowd, alfred, gao, krauser, ryo, kasumi, franziska, yamazaki, freeman
>>543198921>Chink-Lee>Mr. Big Boost>Sudden aggression to a valid suggestionFucking kek, this message got a nice laugh from me. Why aren't you posting Terry images alongside your post though? I want the full Terry schizo package
So they are committing to ithttps://youtu.be/7WKsUvkBLG4?si=7ghfN_sD8U1Z4_Gk
>THEYSA GONNA CANCEL THE DLCRetards
>>543343151>the game with the most players does not always win the geoff awardsLmao you retard, all the winners for fighting game of the year category were literally the most popular ones in the year they were released. This will be another Multiversus situation and I can't wait to see you faggots cry about it just like that time.
>>543355594That's the new AOF buddy. COTW us done.
https://x.com/OrpheusLS/status/1979388201359020099
How do you know 2xko has more players? Because you can't see the steamcharts? No one's even talking about it
New Art of Fightinghttps://x.com/SNKPofficial_jp/status/1980208620596797516?t=fC0wnGuAisC9kBHM1GhSQQ&s=19
Sigh....
>>543351151>yamazaki>freemannowhere in the datamines
it's season 2 teaser, no matter how much you project
>Already jumping into AOF4COTW is done
cope Decepty.
>>543365480Thank God holy shit
>>543365540You didn't see his comment on YT. He's making a transcript already
Most likely just a teaser/reveal animation to show off the Season 2 COTW characters.
>>543361524Notice how the animation is the same as cotw, meaning it’s done by Obari. Whose style is old and is not liked by the new generation, Oda learned nothing and will just repeat cotw’s failure. There’s no improvement at all.
>announcing AoF4 before SamSho RPGAfter 3 flops in the fighting games genre, your best bet is just trying something else to earn the lost goodwill from the consumers
>>543367668Obari did the animation for XV. It wouldn't be strange for him to just work on every SNK game from here on out.
>>543367787I don't think they've even started working on that. Vaporwave till I see it
COTW players this ain't for season 2Stop the cope
Maxdood won
>>543360380Double retard.
>>543368176So he did for XV and cotw, and both flopped? So why continue hiring him?
>>543360380It's for both. AOF characters (Ryo/Kasumi) were datamined. Time to stop coping.
>>543361524Good to see they've started work on it. I wonder why they featured Robert only, they never show him without Ryo.
>>543355109>>543361524I don't really give a fuck about Ryo or Robert being in CotW...unless they're free. But even then: why would people be hype for chars we've been playing/seeing in every single KoF? Plus MARCO BUTT is already in the game. It'd be like Capcom expecting hype for putting Ryu in Marvel or Namco putting Yoshimitsu in Soul Calibur.If it's a brand new AoF 3D-2D beat em up or something, then I'll be hyped.
>>543343259Who's resentful? The people who don't want Rev Blow - Guard in the game or the people who *do* want it in?
>>543341218I just want another stage. And seeing as SNK cares more about guests than its own characters (Dong, Andy, Joe = nothing. Ken and Salvatore = both got stages) it's likely Chun will get one.
>>543234787>your godlike project?>>543238564All true but I think it was the bad online that really sealed it's fate>>543306582I'm kicking myself for not saving it, but I remember in one of the Yovideogame archives a fan donated (admittedly, a bit of sperg) to go on a rant about how Dead or Alive 6 toning down the sex appeal for feminists/SJWs or whatever is going to kill the game, and of course Max being the ultra liberal just got really offended and went "you don't understand anything" or something to that effect and tried to make an example out of himThen DOA6 comes out and flops in large part due to the sex appeal being toned down lol (of course there were other reasons as well)
>>543075838Because Rock has no purpose. The original trio wanted to stop Geese, so they went after him. Rock is just fighting for no reason, and it's Kain had to bait him into it. Weak motive for Rock.
>>543378504Max is bad for fighting games. Said it before. He helped FF to flop, in his own little way, by influencing the devs - Hidden Gear inputs, dumbing down the game, making a big song and dance to his unwashed legions about boycotting Ronaldo.
ryo and kasumi are in the second half of season 3, we know this isn't season 2
Can't wait to play AOF4COTW faggots can dieMuahahaahahahahaaaaaa
>>543378504I thought toning down the fanservice was them trying to FGC to take the franchise seriously. Even putting emphasis on the close ups when someone gets punched in the face, except Marie, Honoka, and that new girl. Funny thing is I think DOA5 also tried to take itself seriously at first with the "I'm a Fighter" slogan. I think they even brought it back for 6.
Robert as the MC would be kinda kino
>>543381724He was the main character of Art of Fighting 3, wasn't he?
>>543382115I think so but the story for that one was pretty bad.
Any chance to get Chizuru
>>543383307Why would Chizuru be in a Fatal Fury game?
>>543381724I mean, if that is the teaser for AOF4 the chances of that happening are zero>>543382115AFAIK AOF3 is not called AOF3 in Japan, the title is Art of Fighting Gaiden or something like that. It is considered a side game, not an mainline entry.
>>543361524Based
>>543383768For reasons
>>543383768Why would Mr. Big be in Fatal Fury?
>>543384124AOF and FF always take place in the same universe even outside the KOF timeline, whereas Chiziru is a KOF original and isn't guaranteed to exist in the extension to the FF/AOF timeline.
>>543384269There have been cameos like Kyo and Iori in Hokutomaru's stage or Chang and Choi appearing in some of Kim's endings and Iori was a secret character in the Game Boy version of Real Bout, but that's about it. You can't expect a KOF original to be playable in COTW, especially Chizuru who rarely appears in games unless Orochi is involved. And the Fatal Fury games are much more grounded in reality compared to KOF, so Orochi might not even exist in Fatal Fury's universe.
>>543383780>I mean, if that is the teaser for AOF4 the chances of that happening are zeroI can't see it that way. It only shows the Mr. Karate mask and the dude throwing a coin, and that's probably Robert.
>>543385710>And the Fatal Fury games are much more grounded in reality compared to KOF>The current game has cursed ghosts of japanese warlords taking over the bodies of their descendantsLike, BARELY more grounded.
Why is the mask Vox wears in-game broken? The mask from Grant is whole in both EOST and his Arcade ending so I don't get why he's walking around with a busted one. Did they not actually write out character origins and endings before putting the game out?
>>543349605>people hate Andy because he's cucking them with Mai>no one hates RobertJust goes to show you need to be a real Italian to be a popular casanova.
>>543378504>Then DOA6 comes out and flops in large part due to the sex appeal being toned down lolWas it really toned down though?
How did they forget to make the characters cool? They all look like dorks in COTW.
>>543312501Tekken 7 was a hit on launch. If anything, it got worse.
>>543367668The problem isn't Obari, even if his aesthetic isn't en vogue; it's lazy production that results in cheap looking shit.
>>543393206It's just emblematic of being Abel's student, he's not a full demon until the end where he proves he's able to protect Kain and Marie and Abel can die at peace and pass on the full demon mask to him.
>>543396728It's more no one cares about Robert and Yuri as much as they do Mai. Mai is bigger than AOF, FF, and KOF. She's literally one of the most popular characters of all time. No one except hardcore SNK fans knows Yuri outside of her being some goofy side character in KOF same with Robert though he has a bit of a cool factor to him going for him at least. Harsh to say but it's true.
>>543397159Barely. Some outfits were censored, but they switched back to full gear for the DLC.Which makes the vanilla costumes remaining censored more frustrating.Pic related. Left didn't have the black fabric in 5, but they ended up releasing shit like right as DLC.
>>543373506They flopped because they suck not because of Obari's olay-ish intro animations
>>543373480I better see you 2 weeks from now on.>>543373628Shingo and Hinako were also datamined for XIV. COTW will share the same fate hopefully.
>>543385710Stop the cope.
COTW’s roster feels like if Capcom made SF3 NG, then made SF3 2i over 2 decades later
>Whitewashing Geese to have secretly cared about his son all along>Despite famously killing himself out of spite I genuinely hate the story this game tells, it's completely toothless.
>>543393206>Why is the mask Vox wears in-game broken?Because they watched The Force Awakens
>>543398494Same problem with Kyo in 14 and even the improved 15. The old sprites and art looked moody and angry. The nu snk art looks docile and even smug.
>>543404369It has no guts or animosity. I don't know what's wrong with whoever wrote the story. Peak SNK games were known for being edgy and aggressive. Now there's zero testosterone.
>>543407402>edgy>testosteronekek
>>543407917Edge and testosterone have been tight since before you were born, kiddo. Don't get confine edge to just your goth, j-rock bullshit.
Who's hyped
>>543409884If you are gay or a girl, I guess so.
>>543407917>he doesn't know
>>543361524So that's it, Oda-san? You are just gonna leave City of Wolves behind, just as you left SF4 behind for SFV? Not even WAITING FOR SEEOASNASEASON TO FUCKING END AND REVEAL MR. B-I-G oh no, you are ready to jump ship ASAP. Unbelievable, the balls of this raped chink. To abandon THE PACK who supported him all these years for the next big shiny thing, which will be fucking ART OF FIGHTING LMAO a series which hasn't seen the light of day until SAKURAI mentioned it in Terry Reveal TrailerIt's over. It's so fucking over. But we can get the last laugh: DO NOT BUY AOF4 DO NOT BUY AOF4. BOYCOTT THIS SHIT
>>543410280>So that's it, Oda-san? You are just gonna leave City of Wolves behindKeep crying faggot
>>543407402No stakes. No conflict. No interesting developments. No grit. The down to earth character moments were so cherished in early SNK games because they stood in contrast to the heavier shit happening. Now it's just boring mush.
>>543361524season 2 keks?......
3 YEARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS IN THE BIN
>>543407917another ESL retard who doesn't know that edgy is a compliment and took the sarcastic use of it as its actual meaning
>>543410280>>543410562>>543411247The first CotW trailer was shown around half a year after KOFXV released. Yet you guys are so insistent that KOFXV was abandoned, so no wonder you guys think the situation is the same this time around.
>>543410280WE WILL PREVAILODA SHALL KNOW THE WOLF'S WRATHWOLFPACK 4 LIFE
1.2 MILLIONS VIEWSWE WON!...4k likes...500...retweets...
If no new cast it’s dead before arrival
>>543384124Because FF and AoF take place in the same universe, AoF is a prequel.
AOF announcement is actually a second story mode within COTW, all of season 2 will just be adding in Kyo, Robert, Yuri, King, and Kasumi to COTW roster + story updates
>>543417154Kyo would never be associated with this flop
>>543417436Oh you're right, I meant Ryo. I still mix up their first names all the time.
>>543400706What cope?
>>543400069I think I remember, at least when the game first came out, you had to unlock character costumes in pieces, and who's you would get was random.
The character is a new generation protagonist related to RobertYes it is a new Art of FightingThe announcement will be at SWC.screenshot or whatever.
>>543418478So, Robert has his own student or did he and Yuri have a kid together?
I still think they should add some Buriki characters to the roster.The timelines line up nicely enough and most of AoF's cast is pretty dimeless. I don't think anyone would be mad to see Gai or Python on the roster.
>>543418963>SNK>letting their characters actually have sex and have a child with their romantic interest instead of taking in some random kid insteadlol. lmao, even.
>>543417154>CotW>still having a Season 2Also, the planned Season 2 and 3 leaked months ago, Ryo and Kasumi were on it, but not Robert.
>>543419361Do the Kim twins count?
>>543418478>same white pants, same coin trick>a different guyMeh.
>>543419850Eh, kinda but not really since they were part of Kim's character from the jump.
>>543335179>>543297890The DOA community is currently frying Shillmian Dood for the secondary faggot he is.If only SNK twitter niggas had some BALLS we would've dealt with him a long time ago.
>>543420902I just remembered Daimon also had a son with that woman from KOF Kyo.
Perhaps SNK's biggest CotW misstep was not leaning enough into the world's most skilled, experienced communities for Fatal Fury Special and Mark of the Wolves, right in Japan, to make use of their feedback.
Oh wow, another delicious cake. :)
Oh wow! two bags of shit!
>>543418478>another new newcomerThis company can't cook for shit. Shun'ei was forgetable, Vox and that bubblegum haired chick were even more forgetable and I can't even recall the big booba chink and the crow dude from Samsho.Place your bets, KOFers, Wolfmen and Samshoes. How is SNK going to fuck it up this time?>Neither Ryo nor Robert nor Yuri have settled down and are still vaguely on their 20s, seemingly cruising by forever>OST is just as lame as CoTW>Ryo is not Mr. Karate yet>newcomer is totally-not-Luke, some blonde American hotblooded guy with something to prove>stages are still inferior to stages made 20 years ago by one pixel artist addicted to lolicon>"CONNOR MCGREGOR LEARNS THE ART OF FIGHTING!">Kasumi is not my wife and we are not married and we don't have 10 kids learning Todoh martial arts
>>543403441Exactly. Once said, I don't think the problem is the roster. If we got the very same characters of Fatal Fury II special and my guess is nothing would have changed.
>>543431993Hey, that means in another 25 years we'll get a decent game
>>543418963Isn't this new one still in the 70s? Makes no sense since it's before AoF3
>>543430635>stages are still inferior to stages made 20 years ago by one pixel artist addicted to loliconWhat's the lore on this? LOL
>>543434560I made it up got arrested after the cops found a dozen or so floppy disks full of loli and CP. He's been blacklisted since KOF 2000 which is why every stage after 2000 sucks ass
>>543400069>BarelyNot so sure about that man, like, Ayane boobs are still nerfed in the final game.Also something needs to be said about this franchise that a lot of /v/ coomers won't like but it's true. Ever since Itagaki (RIP) left Team Ninja went way too hard on the soft porn stuff, DOA was always risque, but back in the day it also was a serious fighting game that tried to push vidya tech forwards. I don't think the devs were wrong in trying to make DOA6 more competitive than DOA5, they just were extremely retarded in their PR approach (both before AND after fan backlash).
>>543409908It's modern SNK. Nobody's hyped.I would've loved this game when SNK games were still 2D only, but now I'm just... fuck this shit, man.
Softly reminder Kasumi won in the AoF verse.
https://x.com/TampaNeverSleep/status/1980318091830530406>TNS is hosting a KoF tournament this week>but no CotW tournamentHOLY FUCKING SHIT LMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>543445385they dont like to host region free tourneys cuz they end up being stolen by peruvian brownies
The kyoschizo was right, have you apologized to him yet?
Watch AoF4 release without any celebs or Saudi marketing and still flops. Maybe even doing less numbers than cotw.
>>543449809I hope they add like Magneto or Morrigan or something unexpected, just to create some buzz.
>>543403441Christ I could really go full autism over the roster but I don’t know if anyone here can stand anymore bitching
None of the successful game video game companies (even outside the FGC) abandon their flagship multiplayer game for years at a time. That guarantees that those players leave for others franchises and many of those people don't return. COTW flopping means that SNK killed KoF XV while failing to bring in new players, accelerating the migration to non-SNK franchises and fewer people playing SNK games as a whole.
capcom dropped mvc like a sack of shit, retard.
kofxv cucks refuse to just play their game
>>543459405>MVCIYou mean the game released in that period of time where it was popular to mock "Crapcom" and their games? Is this how you want to prove your point dumbfuck?
If you already have a “successful” fighting game ip (kof), why keep making more by reviving dead old ips? The fighting genre is already niche, it’s why capcom will never make darkstalkers again and refused to make Rival Schools despite Itsuno’s begging. It’s just basic business sense.
>>543465296explain doa success then
>>543409908>Ryo and Robert>HypeChose one
>>543465430Doa was xbox exclusive that’s why it failed
Getting good milage out of this image.https://files.catbox.moe/tcnx80.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/joavuy.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/pb005p.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/vbe4ga.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/eg3tck.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/l02tox.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/bngt9g.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/hbd7t1.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/c9zj2o.mp4
>>543379328>dumbing down the gamei swear i remember people still saying this game was still hard to get into unless im mistaken
>>543481742it is but you can still make your way out of gold by turning green
>>543481742Modern games lowering the bar = regular difficulty is now considered gatekeeping and hard by the braindead FGC. With CotW, they fucked up. They put in braindead mechanics and meta (rev blow, rev guard, wild punish > ex ex ex), alongside 'technical' mechanics like JD, HD, and feints. The people complaining about the difficulty don't even play. Cause anyone who does, knows the scrubby parts are the problem.
>>543485579defend feints you freakwe peeps fucked our brain up just to be able to react to start up animations and then this piece of shit mechanic comes outta nowhere to shit everything upreally fuck off man
>>543485901Feints were already in Garou, you've had 20+ years to practice.
>>543487386practice what lil broguessing right? hahanah doe ya ain't getting good at that
>>543494260>world championship in usawhy would they ban my white boy darkangel69 like this...
>>543485901I'm not gonna engage with scrubs who can't even feint. lmao. You're exactly the type of Max Dood faggot I'm talking about. They gave you 1 button super mode and you're still crying.
>>543494515He got in already. No passport issues.
>>543349264>You guys can't get off SNKwe're like the only people who pay attention to snk's existence, everyone else doesn't even know who they are
………………..alba meira
Rock.
>>543485901Feinting is unironically one of the single best mechanics introduced into fighting games because of Fatal Fury. It specifically benefits people who work on conditioning and adds actual layers to decision making instead of boiling every interaction down to 1 or 2 objectively correct decision trees like modern games.
>>543505414Besides Garou and CoTW I really can't think of any 2d fighting games that have feints as a universal mechanic. Which is strange because it's a really good mechanic.
>>543507562RB2 also had them, I don't remember if the earlier games had them as well as I didn't play them as much.
>>543508149Actually I looked up a movelist and they had fakeout specials even in Fatal Fury 3, so not only is the concept established but it's practically ancient. Why aren't these in more games?
>>543397159Base DOA6 is so toned down that base Soul Calibur 6 mogged it in pure sex appeal. And proportions were obviously altered to be toned down slightly.Of course this started change once the DOA6 DLCs came rolling in, but it was pretty grim when it first launched
>>543398494You really can't beat the old sprites. I know people still have PTSD from KOFXIII killing the company but with hindsight being 20/20 a part of me still thinks SNK would have been better off sticking with sprites. Sprites will never be mainstream, but SNK going 3D didn't propel them to mainstream either
>>543509572nigga, please shut up.
>>543485901Didn't capcom steal feints and gave them to Viper? You'll be fine.
>>543509572I don’t know if anyone had those docs describing how they did the process of making KOF13’s sprites, but I remember them coming across as being way too tedious and expensiveSomething like RBS/RB2’s spritework looks way more manageable to do in comparison
>>543519067If I remember right the KOFXIII method first involved making the entire character as a 3D model, then taking stills of the model and converting them into the super detail sprites we got. They basically bankrupted themselves by doubling the amount of people and effort needed to make a single character.
>>543519556>If I remember right the KOFXIII method first involved making the entire character as a 3D model, then taking stills of the model and converting them into the super detail sprites we got.Yeah it sounds like way too much work, I guess it’s an interesting experiment to try out in the first place but the sprites themselves aren’t even that high-resolution natively and a lot of the finer detail gets lost in motion anyway, especially when all the particle effects start showing up (that honestly don’t really fit the style there were going for)
>>543511138The majority brings up KOF13 all the time because it's the last, and most recent thing that actually looked visually-appealing/good to them from SNK. Sorry to break it to you guys, but visuals matter a lot for Fighting Games for the vast majority, and what SNK puts out now is well-below what people will like. People already barely want to play Fighting Games that's not the big-brands they know, and they sure won't do so with ones they don't have attachment to, aren't popular, and that they don't think looks visually-appealing.
>>543473648You will never be a human. You have no imagination. You have no artistic vision. You have no organic brain with actual synapses.
>>543509056>wholesome>family friendly>Christian>"grim"
>>543526398Cope. Technology will progress and progress, while you cry and seethe about it Grandpa.
SNK will not progress and progress
When will their lame swc end
We can save SNK with a new reboot: Terry Bogard, his girlfriend Mai Shiranui, and his longtime rival Kyo Kusanagi enter THE KING OF FIGHTERS to defeat the baddest man in the world, Rugal Bernstein
EVERYBODY SHUT THE FUCK UP I FIGURED IT OUT.You see, it makes no sense for Oda-sensei to abandon the Wolf Pack just like that. The man broke his back trying to achieve his dream game and he himself said in an interview that reviving the Fatal Furry series had always been an old dream of his. He also went through the trouble of getting Ganucchad and that one whore who cosplayed Hotaru so, he CLEARLY loves the series more than fake Kyoshit /neog/No, Art of Fighting 4 Teaser is not Oda-sensei leaving us behind.He is addressing the Wolf Pack. He is calling for us, shouting "Hey, get up and fight" much like a coach would to a fallen boxer. This isn't a rejection, rather an invitation. A chance for the WOLF to finally fucking AWAKEN. Finally play some fucking good matches and pisscum all over CAPKEK and NAMKEK and ARKEKSYS.You hear that /neog/? Destiny calls. Enough coping. It's time to actually play the game and post your matches. It's time for a new era of /neog/.
awrooooo…
>>543153594PS2 games look better than modern games
ps2 games also sell better even today than most modern snk games including cotw
Shill me XI.Why do I always see praise for this game here and there?.
>>543473648thx for posting those theyre very sexy bro
>>543526398>Profession>ArtistThat's some excellent career hindsight hobo.
Last chance to get the good wolves game
Who names their kid Dong?
>>543441341Even if that was true, it would be changed to be more in line with popular perception.
>>543441341I don’t get it
>>543571506Was turned on to a recent thread posted from a Japanese Garou figurehead on how MotW compares to CotW and other games in the series: https://x.com/yoshimizu0114/status/1974723915760214495Last part, mostly Bing translated: >In summary, I think the essence of Garou (Fatal Fury) is that the characters have just enough mobility to move around well without needing to air-dash, and engaging in close-quarters brawls where high damage drives the match.>>On top of that, the fun comes from it being an "action" game: the enjoyment is tied to the sense of direct control from the combination of things like Feints and JDs. >>As for CotW, aside from top-tier characters, the weak approach actions/options (close-range play), the lessening of the enjoyment of closing in and locking down because of REV Guard, the awkwardness of having weak lock downs yet easy throws, combos not decreasing gauge, and GC consumes gauge without decreasing anything... it doesn’t feel as good. >>Also, simply put, the feints are slow and chunky, lacking a fluid and connected feeling, which is a subtle negative.
motw boomer who can't adapt.
>>543526398AI is here to stay faggot
I WANT TO FUCK CHRIS
>>543583436Okay, Saigado.
>>543583436Yashiro...
Based Edgekino
>>543525880It's this.
>>543505290Much improved over 14 and 15. Only thing missing is better hair animation.
>>543583436He's taken,fag.
>>543511138Why?>>543519067>>543519556Oh absolutely, the workload for KOFXII/KOFXIII was too insane to replicate, I'm not saying they should keep sticking with that style specifically. I'm saying, with hindsight being 20/20, perhaps they would have been better off in the long run had they found a way to hone 2D in a more manageable way. But obviously 2D died for so long in the mainstream so it's understandable they thought they had to move on, but now 2D is making a bit of a come back (though again it will never be mainstream)
>>543565209tag fighter that came out during the age where fighting games were most or less dead plus americans love tag fighters in general
>>543615449That's not Yashiro though
COTW SEASON 2 AND 3NEW ART OF FIGHTINGSAMURAI SHODOWN RPGTHE FUTURE IS HERE. THE FUTURE IS NOW.
>>543635351
>>543636403You lost. Wolfpack owns you.
>>543636541wolfpack is too busy getting owned in the summer of 92 to own anyone else
>>543635351CanceledJust another flopVaprowave
>>543635351The future is Kyo Kusanagi
I like how SNK doesn't even use their slogan openly anymore because even they know that would be embarrassing.
>>543608897https://youtu.be/ZZyhfjprUJw?si=css9AZXjzOt6h5zU&t=146
Powerful. Perfectly describes CotW and the current state of SNK.
>>543644846I don't get why they patched in the old jingle for KOF XIV, then didn't use it for any following game. The jingle is awesome.
So what real life celebrities SNK will include in the new Art of Fighting?
>>543654335Roman Reigns and HP Baxter
>>543654335Ryou Sakazaki
>>543655547Who?
>>543654728Was Roman Reigns in the WWE collab that KOF All Star did?
>>543654335Max Dood as the training mode dummy.
>>543654728Unironically better than what we got.
Iori "We want K-pop Hunters Audience" Yagami
I can't think of a funny nickname for sluttier Mature
>>543654335I think they learned their lesson, but they will still do collabs, I think this time it’s going to be an anime character.
>>543656565No, but he's the kind of boring generic wrestleman that some prince would have an autistic fixation on and demand be included.
I'd like to see them add a Marvel fighter just to fan the thought of a Marvel vs Capcom vs SNK.
Most fucked up part of a new AOF is that I don’t think any FGC casual would recognize a single character except Geese
>>543663938As if anyone would recognize young Geese.
>>543663938>>543667346>”predictabo” alone is more recognizable than the entire AoF castexceedingly grimmy
>>543658974>I think they learned their lessonheh lol
>>543663938Nobody recognized Killer Instinct characters, and that still sold copies. The franchises aren't the problem, SNK is.
>>543674596>SNK is.people will still refuse to accept this and try to find a way to blame it on everything else like the capcom illuminati or trannies
and for bullshit like thishttps://x.com/MaxxClark/status/1980665383225847935this is not going to helpnot that i understand marketing development or anything!
>>543658258>>543658708What? No Vice?
>>543658708built for turning into a housewife and settling down and making a family with
>>543658708Built for stepping on my balls while calling me a good boy
I’m in my early thirties, I don’t know why I spend time here
>>543677107Kek this is pathetic, if you’re calling random twitter nobodies to help you then you don’t deserve your job
>>543692229Mid twenties here, I think this place is more fun than reddit and twitter
>>543674596I assume Rash was better received than Ronaldo or Salvatore? At least he's a video game character from the same company.
>>543698665I think most of the complaints about Rash were due to his absolutely busted movement specials being completely out of hand on release
>>543694581Anon anything is more fun than twitter and reddit. That’s just the bottom ceiling
>>543680072Post more
>>543694581>I think this place is more fun than reddit and twitterAbsolutely. No need to be fake and bottle into hivemind thinking for validation, no retards and NPCs who think they're hot shit for having more worthless internet points, no gay mods who take their free labor very seriously. 4chan has always been the better social platform.
>>543709710>No need to be fake and bottle into hivemind thinking for validationSNK discussion on twitter is entirely built on this.
>>543677107But this _is_ helping. We are getting this much COTW content only because of this "creator program".
>>543709710Cute Kyoko
What different things would a talking Mai plush doll say when squeezed?
>>543709710>no gay mods who take their free labor very seriouslyLike 4chan mods? 4chan is as worse and as normalfag as reddit.
lol KK is pissed
>>543730581what i miss?
>>543707134
>>543732732https://x.com/Evo_France/status/1981046097729442009Spot if you can find the missing game.
>>543737950hey theres a preecha and terry cosplay browe won
>>543737950damn, they left out GBVSR!
>>543737950Kekhttps://x.com/KRISPYKAISER/status/1981186148035940383
>>543740181im glad the french keep finding more ways to make people dislike them at least
>>543740976I blame EVO. There's no way in fucking HELL they /accidentally/ forgot to include games in their wrap up.For the fighting community my fucking ASS.
Wahhh wahh wahhNo one watched the game. Get over it.
>>543742205Fuck you.
>>543744250Hi KK. Maybe if the team did their job better you wouldn't have to farm pity every few months.
Based Zhu once again dropping the truth nuke and BTFOing KK so hard it made him delete the tweet
b-but the gen z samsho meme video...
Zhu is literally an obese, porn addicted Asian who is literally eternally seething because of Mai's costume change, yet has literally no gameplay footage or experience actually playing her in any game.
>>543753342>an obese, porn addicted Asian is more in touch with reality than SNKkek
>>543752630did anyone save it?
>>543753342Is he wrong about SNK though? How can anyone defend the lack of Mai's classic costume with a straight face?
>>543716809>We are getting this much COTW contentare you talking about the game or some lame streamer vod bullshit because if it's the latter idgafand i ain't seeing anything more beyond the default for cotw if that
>>543756965fax
>>543752229
Why do these people foaming out the mouth over Mai's costume change (who don't play any SNK game to begin with) haven't once mentioned that Billy doesn't have his classic costume(s) either? I haven't seen anyone mention it once. You know, a character that was actually in the very first Fatal Fury game.
>>543759194It's hard to be serious about an obese porn addict whose only tantrum is the lack of a costume.
why do people foam at the mouth when cotw is being criticizedthey must really relate to this character
>>543763540That's what happens when a character's only quality is being a fanservice bitch. The vast majority of fans don't care about Mai's gameplay or personality, but rather how much flesh she's capable of showing.
Does the Mai fan group army actually exist?
>>543763540People have shat on the new Billy, but not as much, I'll give you that. They're coomers. What do you expect? Billy looks based if you color him right, anyway.
>>543752229The FGC influencers can sabotage, lie, ignore, and backstab the game, and their legions of parrots can say whatever they want, but at the end of the day this guy's right: making a classic is SNK's responsibility. They listened to the wrong people like Max, Roofle, and Nabil. Sycophants and scrubs who want babymode games for selfish reasons.To people like Max, he thinks dumbed down games = more retards in the FGC = more money in his pocket. Nabil is the same. They do not care about quality.COTW isn't completely trash. It's like SS 2019. A bowl of sludge with a few based tasty pieces in it. That's good enough for me, but not good enough to be where they used to be, IMO. These days, it feels like they're where they were in 1992. Nobody respected SNK once the FF1 hype died down. FF Special wasn't out yet. People thought their games were weirdly animated Street Fighter rip offs.
>>543285486snk won't nerf it until it's too late. even with focus attack in sf4, you had to hold it to build power, and you were vulnerable during that, plus it was slow to do. plus, they weren't dumb enough to put focus AND parry in the same game. what was oda thinking lol
>>543769890He was thinking "what gimmicks can I mindlessly copy so I only have to put in 10 hours a week?"
>>543298805That was cool, but it wasn't amazing, cause the stakes were hella low. Billy had tons of health and was in SPG. Still cool, though.
>>543763540I thought the problem wasn't her new outfit but the fact that you can't select her old one as an alt like Terry.
>>543724378Probably "Andy." or "Nippon Ichi."
>>543778393Considering SNK can't even keep the frame data and hitboxes the same between the 2 Terry's do you really want them trying to juggle the same thing on Mai?
>>543780041man if only they learned some important valuable concepts
>>543737950holy based
>>543763540I've been clear from Day 1 that every classic FF character should of had an alt costume. Of all the things to steal from Street Fighter 6 it's this.
>>543780041stop spreading misinfo.
>>543781132but that's a wrong idea to steal from capcominstead, what snk should steal from them is finding more ways to hold back content and sell it as paid dlc later on for post game release support hoyp, as this is the "business norm"
>>543658258Why's the hat translucent
>>543782641It's korean hatIori is of Korean descent. That's why he and Kyo hate each other so much
LOOK AT HER GO
>>543795618Cute bird.
>They were asking for help to make propaganda and make up hype for the Chun-Li DLClmao
We got the busted ugly version of chun and not sexy chun everyone wants. sad
>>543801531They did that with the recent neogeo ports too
King has always been a trans women, chud.
>>543803427I can't tell if the artist's shit and accidentally drew her looking too much a like a man, or he genuinely thinks King is trans or something.
>>543813974What post are you referring to?
nigga posts a roadkilled wolf and gets surprised he got banned
>>543813974>getting reportedKek, serves you right bitch.>>543814984This, he asked for it.
>>543753342>>543763540>It's hard to be serious about an obese porn addict whose only tantrum is the lack of a costume.See? That's why SNK will never evolve, why would they when their own fans act like a bunch of whiteknight cucks who have to defend the honour of SNK>Mai gets 3 costumes in SF6>Mai only get 1 costume in COTW despite her classic outfit already being in the game locked behind her super (dumb fucking idea btwThis is fine (according to SNKeks)>Mai fan makes his displeasure known on social media>SNKeks starting calling him names instead of addressing his argumentWho the fuck cares if the guy is a turbo coomer? Do this makes what he said wrong? Why lock the her iconic costume behind a super and not make it a unlockable in the game? Are you fine with SNK being mogged by Capcom with their own creation? I bet you guys would also defend having to pay for a Geese dlc even though he's already in the game.
>>543818828Isn't she more of a snake?Still, would
>>543818215Hi Zhu!
after kim and jae hoon being held back to season 2 two times in a row theres no way hes not a launch character in kof16
>>543458746the current SNK board can't comprehend that we are not in the 90s and that releasing multiple titles of the same genre ends up cannibalizing your player base. especially with modern business in the industryit is the reason capcom has been making SF into an entire verse of their beat em up and fighting game franchises
>>543822697Oda have some sort of vendetta against KOF and Kyo for some reason, I think it's because FF became irrelevant after KOF took off in the 90s
>>543824034What makes you so sure Oda has it against KOF? FF becoming popular is good for KOF because it makes it popular by extension too.
>>543824034Oda wasn't using FF to make KOF more popular, he was trying to make FF replace KOF as the main SNK franchise. If Oda cared, SNK would've actually invested more into KOFXV's development to ensure it was an actual good game instead of making it a low budget title filled with reused assets. If Oda cared, SNK collabs with other companies would be much more than just The Terry's Show.
>>543825801Are you IMPLYING the Wolf Pack is INDIRECTLY helping the Kyoschizo? Bitch ass motherfucker, running your mouth like that should be punished by being forced to play Maximum Impact at gunpoint, but I'm WILLING to forgive you for your transgressions if you apologize RIGHT THE FUCK NOW to the Wolf PackStupid fucking KOFFAGGOTS, the Wolf Pack will NOT aid you in your next Dream match Mario Party shit
>>543827693Meant for >>543825801
KOFniggas crying and weeping after not getting another game immediately for just one time, after decades of non-stop games.
>>543818215Take your meds Zhu
Didn't Terryfags hate Kyo for stealing the spotlight from him? Now it seems to be the other way around.
>>543822697>the current SNK board can't comprehend that we are not in the 90s and that releasing multiple titles of the same genre ends up cannibalizing your player base.thisimagine cannibalizing the 5 remaining players of your other current game
KOFXV support ended too soon, they should have kept polishing the game, be it graphics, gameplay mechanics or single player content.
>>543814984There’s nothing wrong with that picture unless you’re a sensitive bitch.
The wolf pack is such a cool name it should be used officially for the franchise, but the issue is that the characters of cotw aren’t wolves at all, they’re all zesty and boring
SNK released KOFXV six years after KOFXIV and the improvements were minimal, they literally put a cartoon filter over amateur tier assets and called it a day. Do you think this the investment the biggest franchise they own deserves? Why Samsho and Fatal Fury can have games built from the ground up but KOF can't? If KOFXV was actually a good product, there would be no need to have a KOFXVI so soon.
Oda needs to go. That’s it.
>connoisseur of le e-sports branch>knows how to make you want his game>will do anything to accomplish his goals>just ends up making your shitty game relevant in asia and overseas>learns from his mistakesthis is our man
>>543847685Truke
>>543814984Nah you're fucking sensitive bitches lol.
https://www.twitch.tv/kofromance>random Strive player in grand finalsGood job "legacy SNK players" lmao
>>543856018every mexican except darkangel69 has been performing inconsistently due to the discontinuation of xvits too bad thegio fell into depression after getting washed at cotw ewc cuz he would have beaten et at the kof evo finals
Where do you guys get your vanilla 02 combos? It's not on Dream Cancel and Supercombo is so archaic
https://fultonjapan.com/collections/thekingoffighters-30thanniversaryThanks?
>>543866582they look sick tho
>>543848910What anime is JPS
>>543866582Cool watches, I like the Kyo one.
>>543847685i don't know if he is the one primarily at faultbecause he was just a producer and i get confused as to what the fuck a producer does in the gaming world because it doesn't seem to function like a producer in the american film industry and like, but ono with sfv was like "UH I DONT MAKE DECISIONU I JUST HYPE AND MARKETU *blanka shill effect beamu*"but as a personality? he is really a dull guy, and i bet so are the rest of snk's employeesno personality whatsoever, and that's part of what gives you the edge in building a charismatic game, if anythingeven if the game turns to shit, a personality really shines through it because anything you make comes from that even in a filtered statejust look at sakuraithe difference in having a personality between sakurai and oda is like miles long
>>543866582Pretty slick, not going to lie. Don't like to wear accessories in general but this is tempting.
>>543866582I prefer Kyo's.Iori's looks like a toy.
>Friend was unironically defending DI because "rev blow is so much stronger"I should stop being friends with retarded people
>>543887645>but as a personality? he is really a dull guy, and i bet so are the rest of snk's employeesno personality whatsoever, and that's part of what gives you the edge in building a charismatic game, if anythingTotally. Also this dull guy is the one teaching the new employees and thus they become like him. SNK needs young blood and talented people, but they instead hire old losers who’re the cheapest in the market like the petz dev
It's almost time... in 1 week! https://x.com/snk_esports_hub/status/1981708592400281624https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ydyZex1K-w
>>543781586B-but...my gay memes said...
KYOGODS
>>543916628>outsells COTWpsst..nothing personal Wolfpack.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU STOP HIMI CAN DEAL WITH KAIN AND HOTARU BUT THIS LITTLE SHIT KEEPS FUCKING RAPING MEHOW CAN I PREVENT MYSELF FROM GETTING RAPED BY THIS LITTLE WITHOUT RESORTING TO SELLING OUT TO KAIN OR HOTARU?? DOES HE HAVE ANY WEAKNESSES?(I main Dong, btw)
>>543924267Hoku players have never needed to learn neutral, you have to be super aggressive on oki until he hits SPG or builds meter, then you do simple knockdowns and try to bait his super/rev blow. Once he's out of SPG and meter just mash on his dumb fucking face until he builds meter again and bait him.
>>543916628>KUNSANAGI
>>543925198Oh shit I was hoping but wasn't actually expecting an actual answer for this. Thanks mang. I'll give it a try on my next session.
>>543844210
>>543927393>Kyo-kun, sanagi wa yaburi...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8r88ecuU9U
https://x.com/Bafael1/status/1981642101994725859
>>543937520Kyo w-Jesus how many times will we have to say this
>>543937520three years of people not signing up for cotw tourneys kek
>>543937520>trannyOpinion discarded
>>543937160Not sure where all this praise was when the game was actually getting support.
>>543946059not that it really deserves any real praise as it's just "look how much better we got it and we didn't know until it was gone [and cotw tried to replace it]" sentimentsbut this was kind of expected and it SHOULD be a lesson for the employees at snk, to include kkhowever, they're kind of stubborn and it's pointless to do anything but use even kofxv to shit on cotw, another game not deserving praise
>>543945116Holy cope
>>543937520Pretty sure City of Mid is the dead one of the two. As a matter of fact ET has apparently made it so KoF will be at BeePro Cup (Taiwan Major basically) even if it wasn't planned to be before.
>>543937520KOF onlys have no fundamentals and only like KOF. It's not their fault. SNK bred these hermits over 25 years by pushing out nothing but broken, cheap KOF titles. 13 and 14 notwithstanding. Think about it. That's a whole gen of adults who don't know anything but comboslop and Max Mode. To them, that is SNK. I don't blame those fans anymore. That's the price to pay for going bankrupt over and over.
>>543924267He's the devil and SNK is his god. Only SNK can stop SNK.
>>543899792>SNK needs young bloodLike the mobile game retards who created Shun 'ei, can't animate for shit, and are horrendous modelers, you mean. Even KOF AS has a better animation overall.> talented people,^You should've just left it at this.
>>543952941Terry lost.Kyo won.Sorry that your endless paragraphs amounted to nothing. Cope.
>>543844523>Why Samsho and Fatal Fury can have games built from the ground up but KOF can't?XIV was from the ground up. If you think COTW was built using nothing from XV, you're wrong. Even SS used Nakoruru's XIV model and touched it up. On top of that, if you think the next SS will use nothing from SS 19, you're wrong again. Recycling is pretty much all they do.
there was that whole idea of going to work for snk and changing the culture there, but that's just shit from a person who's either only only had one job all his life or hasn't had a real job at all or is even unawaringly part of the problem that i'd talk about in work cultureand then he's like "GO WORK AT THE SINGAPORE BRANCH THEN" like that's an even better situation somehow lmao
>>543840220>you should give them full-game money upfront, and hope and beg they eventually give you a good game years later.
>>543956203post game release polish hoyp! keeps the game alive longerer!
>>543822697>the current SNK board can't comprehend that we are not in the 90sI keep seeing people say this. If they were stuck in the 90s, their games wouldn't have dumbed down inputs, 'modern mode' for zoomers, bad animation, and lazy presentation. You're right about the rest, though. Too much choice of entertainment for multiple franchises to in the same genre coexist, especially if the games are too similar to each other aesthetically.
>>543956802it's more like, they're stuck in a time period and are trying to adapt to modern times but are totally daft on how to actually accomplish thatshowa is a time period that ended right before the 90s, so to call someone showa-chic means that they're old-fashioned
>>543827693>>543825801>>543824034kek at all this headcanon that Oda hates kof and loves fatal fury. The guy wasn't involved in the creation or core development of either franchise at their peak. If he was a FF fanboy like Ono, he would've rebooted it and told the whole story. He wouldn't have cheaped out on CotW's development, either. Look, man, the only money spent on CotW was on the marketing. The game is LAZY
>>543955906>Recycling is pretty much all they do.As much I used to defend SNK on everything I think it's time to give up on the models than were born in XIV and start over again.I like them but clearly a majority of the people don't.
Why does Oda hate Kyo so much?
>>543959318Kyo is the avatar of those old japanese men who still try to dress and do their hair like teenagers/young adults and make everyone cringe
>>543963732Didn't his old VA get butthurt about having to portray a more mature Kyosuke voice because he likes using Kyo to relive his younger days or something?
>>543963732Hi Oda. Feeling the burn yet?
>>543964462Always, pup
oda is the avatar of old japanese men trying to work in a video game company in their mid life crisis as they hope to leave a footprint only for people to make fun of how ugly the footprint is or just ignore its existence as they just deliberately pour some pavement material to walk over it better
>>543965194Kek
I keep seeing all this shit talk but is CoTW really as bad as you all make it out to be? I've watched some gameplay and it seems pretty fun to me. Does it turn to some massive garbage fire when you actually play or what?
>>543972613It's not that it's shit, it's that it does nothing new or anything particularly better than the competition. Want scrubby babymode mechanics? SF6 is already out with twice the characters. Want comboslop? KOFXV is more satisfying to pull off big combos, and fucking DBFZ is on it's 4th ressurection. That combined with a lackluster package of just the basics makes it unappealing.
>>543947376I don't believe it. 14 niggas out of nowhere sounds like bullshit.
>>543937520HE HAW HAW HAW HAWKING OF TRANNIES: MAXIMUM DILATEHE HE HE HO HO HO GET FUCKED, KYOFAGSAWROOOOOOOO
>>543937520And then everybody clapped.
>>543972613it's frustratingly underwhelming in the delivery of what it tried to promisewhen it's just something with "good/great gameplay" (mileage varies) and everything else around that in the same package is either mediocre or subpar or just plain bad, and it doesn't really offer anything amazingly fresh in the gameplay department to begin with, it just has no real value overallit could have been a bigger game if only it wasn't everything it currently is
even the fans are doing ithttps://x.com/taurencebell/status/1981642479310180507just because capcom legitimately made a deal with some fast food placelet me put snk's situation in perspective for you if you still don't get itsnk's current production especially is like a made-for-tv version of a really popular film that a niche fanbase really enjoys more than said really popular film because of some qualities about it that appeal to them more, like maybe the acting is way better and it has more "sovl"-ful actors who aren't really known but pull it off better than the A-listers in the popular movie, but everything else about the made-for-tv film is just bad or mediocre like the production value, and the small amount of fans of this film are griping that everyone just likes the popular movie only because it has A-listers and more budget behind it and they're uhhh just brainwashed and uhhhh yeah tools of The Man and stuff *smokes pot*and it's likethat's life, get over it and either learn to deal or learn to die for it, and if you think simply aping what a bigger entity does but offering a better less watered down quality in maybe one or two attributes is going to attract anybody, you're in for a ruder awakening than a grumpy angry man who ran out of coffee and has to go to work early in the morning
>>543997294and on top of that, any of the excuses snk themselves could and would hand out are even more pitiful, such as the excuse about making alt costumes and them not selling, and thus they decide not to go with making anymeanwhile, capcom themselves would probably tell you that they really make bank on those, and for all i know, they probably already did say that, and they even come with a couple alt costumes per each dlc character upon release, and meanwhile, which dlc characters on snk's side have come out with an alt? oh wait, just ken so farand what's that you say?>WELL UH CAPCOM OUTSOURCES THAT WORKwho's the company that's trying to buy people on twitter into promoting cotw? oh wait! and a couple of them even have a terrible attitudedeceptyfag that they end up just being repulsive and counteractive, and alltogether it's just sadoh, you are saying something else?>UHH MODDERS MAKE COSTUMES AND THEY FREEand are only really easy to bother with if you're on pcand i get the free aspect, and i'm all for free shit, but even then, sfdix offers free alt costumes for EACH character in the game if you play for them, BUT on snk's side>just terry and he was only an early adopter special, or ken and he's a guest dlcgo circle back around on the nobody-buys-alt-costumes excuse or make something up about juices, because i sure complain about the latter a lot toowhen you have to get people to sell themselves in order to promote the game, or you complain that this game is underappreciated and shills and the like only like OTHER game for reasons, it's just desperation when caring about a game should be an organic process, not a process of pity or incentivethey spent more money on marketing than the game itself, bizarre for a 400-strong companyand kk, your company is going to learn that the hard way
Why haven't they announced a new CEO?Cause no idea who the current one is
>>543972613>is CoTW really as bad as you all make it out to be?It's annoyingly close to being a great game. People are just extra pissed, because -1, it flopped2, they visibly cut corners AGAIN3, they haven't learned after 9 years.4, they are fans who care about SNK fucking up their own IPsThe FGC today =/= fg fans of the past. It is now tribal, petty, and bitter, driven by money and clout. Lazier, more broken games have had more success than COTW due too that fact. Then you have KOF zoomers who hate anything made before they were born. So it's double hate. Then there are people burned by KOF 15 (picrel), who don't trust SNK anymore. So it's triple hate.
>>543972613It's not that the game is kuso, CotW is actually pretty good, SNK always nails the gameplay. It's that CotW went the safe route by dumbing down the game in hopes of catching a large audience ala SF6 and thus lacks a strong niche that makes it stand out to other games around. Being a 25+ year sequel and SNK being obscure in the west doesn't help either.Another note is that zoomzooms will swear left and right that graphics don't matter, but the most-selling games tend to have them, but also focus on them, that applies to fighting games too like MK1, Strive, T8 and SF6. Had CotW come out 10 years ago, during SFV era and the fighting game drought, it would have been a massive hit.
oh yeah, feel free to tag me as [something]-schizo like i care about making friends here lmao>>544002812everything you said is right, except it's not just zoomzooms saying that part about graficsbut i agree that something like samsho even with its delayback netcode would have been a pretty good hit especially at locals pre-covid, and snk just can't get out of their own wayand likewise, yes, cotw undoubtedly would have been a little more well-received back then based on appearance alone, it clearly doesn't look like a modern game
There is no way you can capture an audience with an outdated menu screen and UI that looks like some one quickly produced on Microsoft ExcelCasuals don't really give a fuck about gameplay, it's more about presentation.
>>544003453>it's more about presentation.let's clarify that for the snk employees in the backpresentation of the in-game aspectsas well as the marketing aspectswas going to say not the marketing but that wouldn't be true
and finally maybe, what i don't getis that there's this rhetoric that snk was playing it safe, but they're spending so much money in the process to make little if any back, which really gets subtracted from their payroll of 400-strong and then some including logistics and 3rd party expenditures like marketing and promotional work, so it's operating at a loss anywayso they supposedly play it safe making the game itself, but all that excess spending elsewhere really puts a blast on their financesif you're going to throw money into a fire pit like that, at least take risks in the process with the game itself, and not listen to shitty talking heads like maximilian "pegasus" "etna's talking penguins" d00d, because, at the very least, you can attribute losses to the risks you've taken, and that can put you over with a crowd better than playing it safebut kk, and maxxclark, if you guys don't understand that by now, you will never ever ever understandrisk developmentthx simply redsnk should have been a pioneerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtd8D-GHMfE
This is like the 2nd time that Max person has asked for content creators for COTW?Dude taking a long time with this. I wonder wtf he does at work. Eating donuts?
>>544014294pretending to do tps reports
>>544005181>if you're going to throw money into a fire pit like that, at least take risks in the process with the game itself, and not listen to shitty talking heads like maximilian "pegasus" "etna's talking penguins" d00d,They can’t, that’s what you don’t get. They’re literally the petz staff.
>>544034393but all dat sowdey unlimited funds....?!?!?!?!questionmark
>>544035405The discretion at which those funds are spent is up to the Saudis, not SNK. SNK aren't the ones blowing all this cash, it's the Saudi's. SNK is just the venture in which they do it.
>>543972613COTW is a great game (though it could use balancing). It's just that no one plays it, it doesn't stand out from the pack and their decision to add two real-lifers on the roster didn't work at all so now it get's memed on.
>>543974121>SF6 is already out with twice the characters.This is what really fucks me up the most - if you look at the base roster where the FUCK is everyone?>Andy and Joe, who have been around since the very first game, had to wait till DLC to get in>Freeman is out, in fact there's basically no real villain characters to play as (RIP Grant)>A lot of FF characters have last had their playable fighting game appearance in a KOF game of all things, even without counting dream matches: guys like Raiden/Big Bear especially haven't been eating good, what with not making it in a FF game past FFS while getting a glow-up in KOF13>They asspulled a 3rd Jin ancestor that's also responsible for Geese and Krauser's family line, but that just emphasizes that Krauser and the Jin twins aren't even remotely relevant as those scrolls that have been a plot point for like 3 games now>No Mr. Karate IIAnd yeah apparently there's datamines and all, but I'll believe it when I see it with my own two eyes; regardless, unless you're an SNK diehard, the roster just looks so unappealing at first glance because it's trying to bank off of Garou nostalgia that doesn't exist (also reminding Jae Hoon isn't here too), there's 2 random celebrities just for the sake of shilling, and there's 2 Street Fighter characters that are ALSO here for the sake of shilling The comparison to SF3 Second Impact here >>543403441 is pretty accurate, the roster feels like it's trapped in the late 90's as a straight Garou sequel rather than actually dusting off characters and giving them a facelift
>>544036235this was a talking point for the past couple of years and people continuously decided that snk was winning because they had access to all that money now, what changed?
>>544037084>Andy and Joeyou're not counting motw here>unless you're an SNK diehard, the roster just looks so unappealing at first glance because it's trying to bank off of Garou nostalgia that doesn't exista point i had tried to make from the start, snk needs that hit character like juri becameyou can go back as early as sf2 with chunli who is one of the most popular fighting game characters to - this - dayand she was created with the designer's keen sexual interests in mind among other things to decorate it to thinly veil all thatthere's a lot of science behind what seems like just some guy's desire to fuck a chinese woman wearing a modified cheongsam and the seeming simplicity coupled with a bit of tiny decorative sense pooled together into a greatly appealing synthesisit's just unfortunate snk doesn't have that ingenius designer around and they think they can brute force a focus group mentality to wing it instead spoilers it doesn't work
>>544037159People can now see the results of it, rather than using their imagination to conjure a scenario where it isn't embarassing
>>544038960it's too bad that they're so late and have so little foresight then because the signs were clearly there and they deliberately ignored them to mark out for a company that didn't care if they existed
>>544037084>out of every character on this cover, only Terry and Billy are in the COTW rosterkek that's fucked>guys like Raiden/Big Bear especially haven't been eating good, what with not making it in a FF game past FFS while getting a glow-up in KOF13it actually tripped me up when I realized for the first time that Tung, Cheng, Krauser, and Lawrence were brought back for Real Bout Special but Bear wasn't
>>544039410even more, they didn't bring back michael max OR axel hawk, they just eventually replaced them with a late addition of rick and by then it was too little too late
>>544039585I think they can be forgiven for not wanting to bring back "Black boxer named Mike" in the wake of SF2, and Axel Hawk is just... OK I guess? He has that plainess that doesn't demand a do over. Rick has some aura about it, I think he's a perfectly acceptable replacement for the boxer man slot.
>>544039585A thought I had a long time ago was that you could tell that between FF and AoF (crossovers and connected timelines and whatnot), SNK was struggling to create a good boxer character:>Michael Max>Mickey Rogers>Axel Hawk>Franco Bash, to an extent (technically a kickboxer IIRC, but he feels way more "boxer"-skewed)Then they finally struck gold with Rick, great design, top tier, good moveset, all his animations are ahead of the curve... and then he gets put on the Garou backburner along with 99.99% of the cast and then to rub it in he gets ultra-cucked by Vanessa gradually stealing his moves in KOF
>>544039585As if anyone gives a shit about another Mike Tyson clone and a George Foreman wannabe. And yeah, Rick was a little too late, but he walked so Vanessa could fly, so that's a plus.
>>544040793Holy shit I forgot about Franco entirely, and his FF3 theme is easily in my top 5 FF themes. They really took their time finding someone for that niche.
>>544037084>They asspulled a 3rd Jin ancestor that's also responsible for Geese and Krauser's family line, but that just emphasizes that Krauser and the Jin twins aren't even remotely relevant as those scrolls that have been a plot point for like 3 games nowThat's a fair point.>We don't know if SNK is running with the "Krauser commited sudoku". If he didn't he doesn't seem bothered to get back the scrolls Geese stole from him.>Krauser's kid couldn't be bothered to show up for his own fighting tournament, despite bemoaning how the city has lost it's bite or whatever>Despite there being a third Jin ancestor, Chonshu and Chonrei aren't involved (despite it having also been hazy when/if their ancestors moved on and stopped possessing them, as Billy's ending implies)>Also, no follow up to their training under different teachers as seen in Real Bout 2.
>>544037975>snk needs that hit character like juri becameBrother Angel is literally RIGHT THERE, she already is kind of popular and could become even more so if SNK invested more her. But Oda prefers to only shill Terry and (sometimes) Mai...
>>544047887>kind of popularyeah, "kind of"
>>544048717Yeah, "more popular than 99% of COTW's cast" kind of
This is Blowjob Jennet btw
>>544051656man you really raised the bar right therethe cotw castthx james cameron
>>544051718oh no she looks like a female even in the face, run away ahhhhhh help me xir jenet
Remember that time SNK snubbed Angel of getting in SNK Heroines?Remember how they just gave her clothes to the ice cream retard?Remember when SNK were releasing the trailers for KOFXV, everyone on social media was begging to see Angel?Remember how everyone thought she would not be in the game after Team Mexico was killed off?Remember when SNK finally released the Angel trailer, which became one of the most viewed videos on their entire channel?Remember how after that Ogura said "Whoops we didn't know she was that popular (raughs)" and brushed it off?Remember how SNK still ignores her in favour of more Fatal Fury shilling?
SamSho is on sale for cheap on steam, but does anyone actually play it? I'm more than cool with a discord fighter so long as there's actually an active discord for it.
>>544056467Is someone at SNK bitter that it's biggest fanbase is Mexican?
>>544056997depends on how cheap it is, 75% off or more you should just get it either way and have it for a rainy dayprobably modern snk's best game so far, despite cotw having an edge on sp content
>>544057863I think they're more upset that a character created by Eolith is more popular than all the newcomers they've created since 2003
>>544058318well they need to stop being bitches and get over it and think instead like americans do at least in that aspect>hey we snagged this dope character from another guy, and people like her a lot so let's make use of her and get some dimes>oda: NOOOOO WE HONOLABU JAPANESE SAMURAI REEEEEE CANNOT USE GAIJIN CHALACTU EXTENSIVELY MUST PROMOTU TELLY BOGADU AS WOMANU
>>544059710>MUST PROMOTU TELLY BOGADU AS WOMANUBut it worked...
>>544062898because of nintendo fans' first exposure to somewhat scantily clad not-quite-anime females who had unfortunate sticc bodies save for shermie who still was just normal sized in comparison to especially iroha
>>544062898Did it? 7 years later, no one remembers pranked Terry. She also has no ass in game.
>>544062898I really doubt that the saudi overlords will approve of more Terryko in the future
>>544065424Good
>>544041496Too bad Vanessa is a KOF only character, COTW is in need of a woman like her to spicy up the roster.
>>544066924She fits more in COTW universe than in the KOF one
KOF15: 139 current playersCOTW: 114 current playersThe Chun-li patch will be the nail in the coffin of this game
BonusKOF02UM: 122 current players
>>543452171>I could really go full autism over the roster but I don’t know if anyone here can stand anymore bitchingPlease proceed with your autism.
>>544071956>>544072398What about 98UM?
>>544071956In the mid-90s, SNK had fans of all their games.Post 2000, there are no SNK fans, only KOF and Samurai Shodown fans. If an IP didn't get an Eolith Playmore Temu version, these nu fans won't recognize it.Art of Fighting will flop. A World Heroes would flop. An Athena game would flop. They'd all flop unless they were AAA games, which SNK are incapable of making anyway.
oh no no no snkbros....everyone is dooming on snk, snkbros.....where is the see you in 2033 hero, bros.....
>>544037084100%. The Fatal Fury 1 to RB cast are a thousand times more interesting than the MOTW guys. This isn't cope, people have said this for years that the MOTW fanboys are s bandwagoning minority. But like everything these days, companies fall for the memes. Fighting games with avg roster sizes need fat guys, midgets, old guys, weirdos, freaks, and giants. MOTW/COTW barely have those, but the classic ones do. Should've had Big Bear, Jin, Cheng, Bash, Mary, Duck, and added most of the MOTW guys later.
>>544092192>Fighting games with avg roster sizes need fat guys, midgets, old guys, weirdos, freaks, and giantsyeeees, like how i was using choi as an example a long time agobut then you get shit like this, people who are like "ALL KILLER NO FILLER" or more popularly said as "CUT THE FAT, TO WEAR A HAT"
>>544002812Nothing, but truth in this post. All the way through.
>>544092675So when is Rufus coming back to SF? XD Newsflash, people love their characters to be charming, that is not "subjective", it is objective, sex sells, and whatever niche or characterization they try to fulfill, they can do it better while hot. Keep the fillers out.
>>544094932newsflash 6k copies in 2 weeksflop of the wolves in the mud
>>544094932This is some female logic: "I need to have my ugly friend around so I can look prettier to the guy I'm trying to snatch."
>>544095068Yes, I'm sure Rufus did all the weight lifting and not SF4.
must have been the logic they used for keeping cotw out of some evo france video, because it was just seen as filler and no killer kek
It's not that the game is low effort slopIt's just that SNK forgot to put Max The Boxer from Fatal Fury 1
they also forgot to put in a good game
>>544096058You're very smart.
>>544095068SF4 also gave us Juri in case you forgot.
>>544096313especially compared to the employees at snkbut that's understandably like being taller than an ant
>>544037975>snk needs that hit character like juri becameThis.
The only reason Freeman isn’t in this game is because they thought he’s too dark for soft cotw, and you can see it from how milquetoast the story was. It shows how out of touch with reality this company is.
>Angel is made by a Korean companyOf course they would hate her. How new are you to Japanese lore?
I did not know the Hyper Defend window is now 3 frames instead of 2... Should we now increase it to 4 frames?
>>544094932Rufus would probably get a Dee Jay-tier upgrade honestly
>>544098056>snk needs that hit character like juri became>This.Damn, if only SNK had a character like her, but with her own distinct edge...
>>544102032And yet SNK will give more focus to a boring bitch like Athena or Nakoruru
>>544106153nako is iconic you little shitnever mention my wife's name in this thread ever again
genuinely I'm surprised that Blue Mary wasn't base roster
>>544102032Don't worry, they are learning
>>544037975>snk needs that hit character like juri becamejuri is pretty much a snk character isn't she?
>>543763540This place is filled with people who are full of shit and will always be full of shit because that's their entire existence. There is zero reason to listen to any argument they make. Shit is shit.
>>543778393the same applies to billy, retard.
>>544126434No, are you retarded? If there's anyone from Capcom who feels like a SNK character it's C. Viper
>>544128648i was always under the impression people like juri because she felt like she would fit in a series thats not street fighter,i know viper was capcoms attempt to make a snk style character but she's as boring personality wise as the rest of the street fighter cast
>>544126631>>544128356Are you really putting Billy on the same level of fucking Mai? What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course people will care much more about Mai's classic look not being in the game, specially because the costume is already 100% done.
>>544126434in what wayher look is pretty much jolyne kujo from jojos, and that's a staple design philosophy for capcom with characters like guile and rose, like it's very on the nose, and then they twist it so it's not JUST "just copy my hw but change the answers so they don't know it's me"snk, going by memory, just has benimaru and otherwise they'll only just throw in cute stupid references like "anta baka" and yare yare daze, but that doesn't make yuri anything like asuka from evangelion since yuri's been around longer anyway and her showa hair look was better, and besides that, design is mainly centered on looks, not after-the-fact lines their va's will say for thema lot of kof designs other than the blatant ripoff of akira are very tangentially done, like there's a very thin bar of butter from this or that in maybe a moveset like leona's, but leona neither is designed specifically from rei ayanami nor masked riderlike terry and ryo don't look specifically like certain characters or actors except for george clooney, but they can give a time period and genre aesthetic vibe in generallike how i said capcom's a lot more on the nose, snk's more like a tip of the tongue, like you really have to stretch something for snk just because of a moveset or line they saidwe can talk about sylvie with kyary and she's one of the later additions anyway>>543763540i shit on cotw in general for not having alt costumes for anybody BUT terry and ken and that has been a consistent talking point for me, so go find that other hombre if you wanna argue with him about itand from what i remember, billy had mixed reviews here as welleven for mai, i was like, you don't have to have her original look, but have *something* like the rest of the characters like her mi look or even her rb one, and that the whole transformation gear thing was just stupid and awkward because it contributes nothing to the impact of the move
>>544129152>nor masked riderwhoops, meant voltesbut she's very sentai in general anyway so w/e, it fit what i was talking about
>>544128794Damn, you really are retarded
Neato.
>>544129516why not just do an elim mode like sf6 put in instead of pretending anyone besides your 10 fans cares about preecha and hokuto
>>544129618no one uses that shit in sf6. stop shitposting with list war non sense.
>>544129516>Preecha and HokutoFuck no! We already have to deal with deadweight like Shun-ei, keep your shitty student characters fucking away from KOF.>>544129836A mode nobody uses for characters no one cares about, seems like a perfect match if you ask me.
>>544129836noone plays cotw either but here we are
>>544129516This gives the same energy as when Capcom said, "Luke, Jamie, and Kimberly are going to be the future of Street Fighter from now on! They're this generation's Ryu, Ken, and Chun-Li!"
>>544102032She’s not similar to juri stop forcing it.
angel is just a regular mexislutid like her if her hair was long tbqhbeing a turbo slut isnt any cool btw
>>544130898well i think everyone knows capcom has a pretty awful record at trying to do a baton pass when it comes to protags i just hope snk never gets as bad as shun ei again
>>544129516Not only can we can already do that in City of the Wolves, but the student characters aren't popular. How is this hype? These people are braindead. Seriously. What happened to Japanese devs? kek. Almost every decision they used to make, without social media, used to be on target. Now, it's miss, miss, miss.
https://x.com/violin_ken/status/1982122481701003645Pretty cool
>>544131856I feel so bad for Shun'ei. He's not a bad character at all, has cool powers and interesting lore but man they just left him to die when all he needed was some tweaking. Change up his design, actually put some real focus on him for XV, take some notes for his characterization from the manga and he'd be fine. But SNK tends to abandon anything that's not an insta-hit these days instead of improving on what did work and listening to feedback.
>>544102032Angel didn't draw anyone to kof 14 and 15 who wasn't already gonna buy it. And I like the character.
>>544132571he prolly already pierced isla's pussyhe won
>>544100456No. Keep it strict. If you dumb it down, that'll be all you see at tournaments and encounter online. That's the problem with the dumbed down inputs, rev blow and rev guard. It is anti hype, anti depth, and anti fun.
>>544132457is this mugen?
>>544132406>Now, it's miss, miss, miss.they must be the guy at the end of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfEGdiJRYa0>>544132571>Change up his designthey had the chance with xv>>544132574exactly, i don't dislike angel and think she's a cool design, but she's not a character that people are flocking toin fact, was it not shermie who drew the biggest crowd for xv?juri's based on jolyne kujo, but angel is more like just an assortment of ideas some guys liked and put together and then they said "hey we need some cool references" and did that after the fact with some moves and win animations referring to the wwe
>>544132457when did mugen allow 3d models
whining about two characters potentially. being included in kof16 (years and years away) is a new low.
we should think of cotw as a kof xiinobody likes it, nobody plays it but it precedes a GOAT
cotw champion edition
cotw no baka midori edition.
>>544097145SF4 was based. All those early 2.5D games had the most effort from Cap, SNK, and NRS.Nothing is as smooth as XIV, MK9, and SF4. They're like butter. Maybe they need to start rendering both characters in the same space again.If you look at SF4 and MK9, the characters occupy the same 3D space and they clip into each other, standing up. This lets the camera move around when they fight. But in SF6, MK11, CotW etc, they render the fighters individually and lay them on top of each other like paper. So can do a stand attack and see a character's foot on the background still be on top of the opp's knee in the foreground. You can't move the camera like this, cause it exposes the 'trick' that they're not actually in the same space. This makes the action look rigid with fewer dramatic shots./tangent
>>544133372>but it precedes a GOATIs this the new cope to hype up Art of Fighting 4?
>>544133021Preecha flopped, SNK still betting on shit that didn't work is a bad sign for KOFXVI, and you can be certain they will lazily reuse the same character model from COTW if that happens
>>544135620Her design is good but her personality sucks. Making her canonically transgender will make her popular.
>>544135778there's a lot more to design than just changing up gendersthere's nothing striking about preecha's design that works to pull anyone init's too basic and not in an appealing way, and that's being said because people tend to complain about overdesigning, and that's also a true issue, and that's a matter of being excessively and superfluously adorned with shit that doesn't really mean anything or add anything to a character, like 50 beltanzippars, which applies kind of to shunei because he has a few elements that don't mean anything to tell you anything about his character, they just threw that shit on him because of some stupid fashion sense they think they saw something about, and that's what's meant about overdesigningpreecha's the other way in all you get from her is she's a monkeyeared kickboxer and has vision impairment
overdesigning is not that badjust look at silviashe is the only likeable newcomer heroine of recent times
Why do the modelers keep giving big grapplers stubby legs like 1960s cartoons? The concept art has normal proportions. The old sprites have normal proportions.
>>544142215his legs aren't stubbier, they are bigger and longer in cotw. the posing is different in cotw, he's bending deeper. making these autistic comparisons and still being wrong is quite the feat.
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>>544142352They are, and they've been doing it for a while now. The more you play both, the more you notice.
>>544142852use your eyes, retard. don't post unrelated images about a different characters in two different games.
>>544142208that is the problem with just throwing out the word "overdesigning" which is one of the things i was talking about in the postsylvie's design though heavily busy tells you a great deal about how kooky and weird she is and it fits, and it's a matter of contextone of the things about design is that it's going to be a case by case basis on what works for what character that wouldn't work on another character because reasonslike you can't get away with doing to ryu what was done to sylvie because ryu is a very simple man, not too decorative, just lives for the fight, etc, he's not going to hot topic and putting random shit on his gi and making funny faces
>>544142852Another example.
