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Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Early Access doesn't require a code. Come hop on!

>TWO ECKS KAY OH
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poppy or vex will be the next yordle added to 2XKO
screenshot this post
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damn this game used to look crusty
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For me, it's super tag
I just like hitting a guy with both of my guys at the same time
That is what kino is
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remove yasuo level 4 for fuck's sake nothing feels lamer than getting killed by that shit
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Slave dancer ahri when
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>>543088689
it still does
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mercifully low number of ekko and yasuo players tonight
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>>543090858
I fear they are up to something nefarious
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I've been away for a couple days I miss anything bros? Currently in ranked and watching this long Noon vs, Hook set.
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>>543091758
all you missed is that yasuo has downplayers now
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>Shroom loops are annoying to do
>It's nigh impossible to get the shroom badge without it
>It's the only badge worth getting
I want to REEEE
Can I REEEEEEE
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>>543091789
Christ in heaven
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this game's fun but fuck man i play it for like 2 hrs and then i'm exhausted and can't keep going. i used to play sf6 for 6 hrs at a time with my brain completely shut off

>>543092048
you can ree. i give you permission to ree
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The top tiers fear eachother...
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So much for that ft5 I suppose, guess I'll have to wait until the next big drama to see something
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https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1o9e8gc/why_am_i_constantly_chasing_players_around_the/
another one
the casuals will love us for it
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>>543095448
i never played MVC3/UMVC3 at even intermediate levels but i used to watch pro play a lot and i don't think the schmovement bothered me much at all like it does in 2XKO
i'm dealing with it in that i've just kind of accepted it, but it's still so weird for neutral
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>>543095448
>reddit
Why are you browsing there man I don't get it, no shit they'll say retarded shit
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>>543095720
honestly nta but i don't see much of a difference between reddit and here. there's just more slurs and baiting/cynicism/shitposting and tits here. the quality and sentiment of the posts between the two are otherwise comparable as fuck
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>>543095720
no steamcharts to post = literally go on reddit and find examples of randoms saying "I DON'T LIKE THE GAME"
quite amusing
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>wonder why my combos are more inconsistent than normal
>Keep labbing
>Finally notice the fucking DualSense sends 2 S1/S2 when using the trigger buttons
Any chance Riot's gonna fix this shit or should I plug in my stick? I much prefer controllers
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>>543094151
>When characters are so broken, footsies take the entire screen
It's so over, the next Marvel fighting game is gonna kill this shit
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>>543098683
sis if you think toukon is going to be some honest footsies game with neutral you have a big storm coming
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>>543095720
most new players are gonna go to reddit to post and vent instead of here, since most of them think you'll get a virus or something if you go on spooky scary 4chan
And that poster is right to feel confused and annoyed at the backdashing, it's not fun especially if you're new to the genre and it will just lead to them dropping the game, casuals likes aggressive play thats why Rushdown is the most popular archetype
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boring af not being able to close gaps
*turns green and goes fast*
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Why is the fgc as a whole shitting on this game so hard when it's the most sauced up fighting game we've had in over a decade
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>>543101941
you joke but theres a reason why SF6 is still the most popular fighting game, and look at Strike, pure mindless aggression and is still going strong, casuals like rushing down, casuals do not like pussy backdashing and waiting for assists and I don't think any vets really does either
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>>543102015
i mostly see the fgc enjoying it? other than extreme oldheads who would never enjoy a tag fighter that isn't mvc2 or umvc3. the ones that aren't into it just aren't playing it
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>>543102015
the FGC (or at least the youtubers) are liking it (so far) they even tried to rationalize that the 100 dollar bundle is actually good and other fighting games should add 20 dollar skins because they're genuinely retarded and starstruck.
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>>543102495
>>543102310
Maybe I spend too much time on fg Twitter man
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>>543102596
yeah you probably do and you should stop, fg twitter is just shit
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My controller either stops working mid game or a direction input gets stuck after super animation, this is happening all the time
And yes I always close Steam when launching the game
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>>543102015
>most sauced up fighting game we've had in over a decade
Turns out that designing your entire game on the basis of having the urban demographic react to it with "NAAAAW DAS OD" doesn't make for compelling game design
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dead game
dead general
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>>543102015
For what it's worth other than Capcom loyalists, the people I see that's been shitting on it the most has been strivefags.
Take it as you will.
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>>543102015
>most sauced up fighting game
you genuinely have no taste
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I backdashed from playing Project L bros...
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Goddamn, I cannot do this fucking dual launch sharkbones link for the life of me.
This shit's so fucking tight. I can't believe people went nuts over Vi's electrics being hard when this shit's in the game.
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>>543105352
whats the notation of the combo you're trying to do
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>>543105397
2h>j.2s2>J.s2
The combo I saw goes from there to followup jump to the rest of her generic j.h>j.2h>and so on. that bit's easy, it's that first launch followup that's fucking me.
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This fucking SUCKS man
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>>543105538
try delaying the j.2s2 just a little bit. i was able to get it pretty consistently just now by trying that out
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hey fags, how do you feel about there being almost no crossover with the league playerbase, the one that actually brings in money :)
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>>543108674
i dont rly care that league players aren't playing this because everyone i fight online has the $100 arcane ekko and if they don't have that they have a $20 skin for their non-arcane char
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>>543109013
keep up the copium!
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>>543106192
Delaying it helps but I'm still having trouble with it unfortunately. It's just hard for me to time a delayed input after a launcher since there's no real audio cue to anchor myself to.
I guess I'll shelve her for now.
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>>543109513
you could always just do a different combo, too
another thing: now that you know you have to delay a bit and you've (i'm assuming) hit it a few times, just come back to it some other time, a day or two from now
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Do we have resources for high hitstun scale assist launch followups yet?
I'm too dumb to cook up sequences by myself.
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this game would be good if they got rid of the scrub on the dev team that actively pushed for inputs to still be read during super flashes, you just know that retard is responsible for a lot of the bad decisions for the game
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Public service announcement: Vi doesn't have a fully invulnerable level 1 super you fucking retards
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>>543102015
for a game that got 10 years to be made it sure doesn't feel like it even had 5 years of development put into it
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>>543109013
Yeah, i have only been seeing the 100 dollar Arcane skins as well

>>543109183
>People all around keep saying that they are seeing the 100 dollar skins every
>Responds with ''keep up the copium!''

/fgg/ never change, lol
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>>543102257
>entire genre that only has massive releases once a decade caters to casuals
>this is what the fgc wants or they'd be playing 20 year old games!!
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>>543096329
Steamchart posting is good and everyone who gets mad at it simply seethes at their game being dead
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>>543088578
Daed thread = dead game
It was a good run boys, but its over.
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>>543095547
Pro play doesnt look like intermediate play yeah
When you dont know how to whiff punish at midrange people get away from you
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>>543117207
maybe im a scrub but I like how it makes parrying supers so braindead though
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>>543117207
Get fucked scrub, shouldn't have been pressing buttons
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>>543092048
Just get Yasuo
You can hit 5 shrooms during one of his supers 0 skill required
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3lKQxTX3d4
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Das footsies
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>>543121325
I didn't say either of those things schizo
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Does Teemo have any synergy with Warwick
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>>543122912
Playing other stuff man Arc Raiders just dropped
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>>543088632
It will be Kennen. They already made his model.
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>>543129427
>illaoi
>from third best in the game to third worst without being nerfed
Teemo just fucked the shit out of her dam
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>>543135891
there is no way you could play a character as ugly as illaoi without being a tierwhore so all of the tierwhores dropped her for teemo/ahri (they were already playing ekko/yasuo)
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Which character would you recommend for a newfag? I'm new to fightings and I tried Darius and Yasuo so far. Darius feels like a designated mouthbreather character, but I don't really like the way he plays. Yasuo feels better, but I'm completely retarded and 90% of the combat tutorials are instantly forgotten the moment I queue up against people.
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>>543136623
Choose a hot girl if you're not a member of the LGBTQIA+ community.

The rest will come with time; the basic combos you can play with are all simple.
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>>543117207
I legit don't think I've ever played any other fg that did this this
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>>543136623
Most characters are pretty easy to get
The only ones that are kinda abstract for a newfag would be like Ahri or Ekko probably
But you could get both of them with time, just pick whoever and learn what their buttons do and the point of them and you’ll get it
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the game would be amazing if Ekko and Yasuo didn't exist
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>>543140857
Has there ever been a fightan where people liked the top tiers?
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>>543140945
I dont give a fuck about other fighting games and their top tiers, I like this one and I like playing this one but Ekko and Yasuo ruin the experience by just existing
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>>543140945
Johnny had a period of not being outright hated in Xrd but the other top tiers were all hated
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>>543129864
Ww anti air assist is pretty decent for teemo
Not sure if shroom assist can get a combo somewhere for Ww, but I imagine the darts can be nice, I'm sure you can make them work together well enough
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>>543136623
warwick
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>>543141102
Im just curious bwo
You feel free to feel however you wish king
>>543141125
I think smash had some decent top tier culture for a while too
Low tierfags would seethe a lot more in that game than they normally do though
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>>543140945
the most recent game would probably be launch strive where people were just memeing about sol c.S but that game was very anomalous when it came to players
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>>543135891
>>543135891
Is illaoi bad into teemo or did people just decide they liked teemo/ahri better
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i feel like part of 2xko's flop comes from the fact it's a fucking tag fighter. idk why fighting devs seem to believe tag fighters are more popular, mvc was mahvel, it had nothing to do with it being tag
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>>543150126
tags are more popular
1v1 lost pussy bitch
the only 1v1 game you’re getting in 2026 is virtua fighter LOL
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>>543148812
Illaoi is ugly and the others are not
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Will we be able to unlock skins without paying? No, right?
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>>543150126
MvC did tag way better than 2xko.
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I need someone to fucking slap me every fucking time I use the s1 wakeup option.

That shit carried me all the way up to diamond and now that people are actually countering it, I can't fucking unlearn it. I would just instinctively do it even when I can see what they're gonna do and I know what I'm supposed to do.

>>543153040
Only the one you get for free every season w/ the free track battle pass.
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This game needs negative Penalty
Oh, and Poppy too
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>>543153284
Idk if you could super tag out of dante’s level one and start spamming dimension slashes on them at the same time that would be kind of gahdlike i cant lie
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>>543153308
People are baiting my wakeup attack in low emerald man
what region are you where that works till diamond must be nice
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>>543153040
At least the characters are really easy to get for free, Ive barely played since my game keeps crashing, and I got 10k credits pretty easily
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>>543153040
One free skin every season
It’s not that bad either the teemo one is better than both the shitty illaoi and yas ones
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I can't convert a shit with ahri no matter the hit midscreen I either get 5 hits and do no damage or it drops
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>>543088578
any tips on how to tick throw on braum or warwick? im looking for sneaky little strings that can be ended early that have good opportunities to connect one of their command throws or normal throws after

i feel like on braum i never feel like im in range to do his command throw and need more advice on how to set it up because its obviously strong

and on warwick i feel like i do high/low mixups but im not really able to dash up grab. im sure there's some stuff you can do with his demon flip that would be really mean though so im also hoping anyone can give some warwick command grab advice (when to throw it out and why)
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>>543156039
and anything relating 6s2 into 7s2 while trying to maintain same site feels like 2f link idk how to start otherwise
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Found something for the jinx bros, the second one isn't universal but I think most characters should be able to do the first
https://youtube.com/shorts/MI0PyYEezPo?si=KqJaKeQUw4YcLmob
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So what day does the shop actually reset
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Hecarim when
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>>543156394
Dude, tick throw 101 is jab into throw go back to basics
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>>543156394
the time i get hit most by braum command grab is when he's bullying me in the corner with ice shield
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>>543154549
Idk, but you could do 40 hits aerial combos alternating all 3 characters and end it with a 3 character special.
Also: Felicia.
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I'm a gigashitter, but ahri feels really bad to play imo and I don't know why.
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>>543156039
You don't have to do the partial charge jh combos, try focusing on learning the ahri alt s1 super combos and it'll add a lot of damage to your regular easier stuff
On a side note since I wonder if teemo could work his mushroom super into his combos instead of doing the shroom loops to make it easier for his combos
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>>543161736
Can you give me the notations for that anon pls
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>>543160661
Yeah but theres something about being free to run around and spam supers while theyre stuck in place that tickles my brain.
THCs are definetly sick but they arent quite as maximum kino because they’re so rigid
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Is Blitz's S2 just completely busted against Ahri or are her projectiles not "real" projectiles?
I thought Blitz' rocket punch is supposed to be his anti projectile tool. It works with everyone else' so far, but It doesn't seem to work with Ahri's.
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>>543163134
Ahri's projectiles are like teemos. They are not counted as projectiles, just disjointed.
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>>543161736
I can do the partial charge jh free and main focus is optimizing meterless dmg. It usually drops because I end up on the wrong/unexpected side from 6s2 7s2 firefox
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>>543163342
Eugh. That sucks
Good to know I guess, thanks.
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>>543163626
Ahri loves to be in the air, look to anti-air her as much as you can. Use your Assist to cover the ground
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>>543160415
except on braum there's no way im getting in range to jab their shield, unless they just blocked my jumpin or something. his walk speed is so shitty and slow that it takes forever. and jab dash up throw loses to mash

>>543160575
does braum dash up to you while you're too focused on what to block next and just do it raw? because the range is small and it feels like when they block me im so far away usually at the end of my blockstring that i can't just command throw them. so i need to get closer to them which is super hard on braum because hes so gay and slow
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>>543163831
>except on braum there's no way im getting in range to jab their shield, unless they just blocked my jumpin or something. his walk speed is so shitty and slow that it takes forever. and jab dash up throw loses to mash
Wow anon figured out you're not supposed to get strike throw with tick throws from fullscreen
Jesus
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>>543163805
>dude just try to anti air the character that gets a 99 hit combo off of her air fireball
nta but cruel suggestion
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>>543163949
oh im sorry i dont have 5000 hours in dead games like you kid i bet i would still rape you 1v1 easily with my pressure while you mash in the corner like a noob
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>>543163831
yeah the thing you want to accomplish is get the other player into the corner, then call an assist to help cover your approach and then command grab for a free billion damage combo
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https://youtu.be/RWpoHVUj-lY
He's right as usual desu.
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>>543163483
If you're ending up on the wrong side, I think you're doing your s1 too early, you can side swap out of 7s2 if you cancel it before ahri gets to the other side of the character
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>>543163626
Its a good idea to learn how to parry ahri’s fireball
Lets you punish a lot more often and they never expect it
It’s also not that hard it’s pretty slow
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Which is the best character to use in Juggernaut fuse?
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>>543165927
jugg isn't viable, learn sidekick at the very least
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>>543166138
Ok, which are the best for sidekick?
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>>543166214
any char + ekko or illaoi
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>>543166429
Ok then
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>>543165854
Do I have to respect her when she's doing L>M>H into her S1 string or can I just interrupt that?
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there literally isnt a single good skin so idk why people are buying them
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>Want the Zaun map
>Can't use credits for it
Fuck you too game
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I don't know why but suddenly, my Ekko overhead setup has stopped linking for some reason. Like, assuming it hits, I used to be able to link the 3M overhead to the S2 Replay if I've a clone already setup, but apparently it just wouldn't link like half the time, despite the 3M hitting.
Is this a rollback thing? Like, the opponent on the other side actually guessed right, but the servers "guessed" wrong or something? But if that's the case, why did it register my 3M as a hit then and not roll that back either then?

>>543167093
It's BP exclusive for the duration of it. Wait 2 months I guess.
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>>543166754
I’m pretty sure you can parry that yeah
If they’re good they do the nowgetbacmk one though and that’s a true blockstring
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the problem is not the tag, per se. The problem is the lack of histun decay when you switch mid combo, the ridiculous meter gain so you see dhc after every interaction and how much fucking hitstun does otg give so they can run across the fucking stage and still have enough time to do a pick up, it's dumb as hell. All shit that can be fixed by tuning values without drastically rework the game
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If sonic and wawa let leffen win a single major over the course of this games lifespan i'm going to killmyself
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How do we fix the dashback problem?
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>>543169590
By letting timmies learn that they're going to have to learn to dash forwards if I have the life lead
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>>543169590
make backdashes like strive's (that game did so much stuff well in retrospect). First few frames, around 5, of invulnerability than a long, punishable, not cancellable recovery. Increased travel distance to compensate
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Is Warwick good? I tried every character except illaoi and ekko, and Warwick seems the most fun to play one.
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>>543170069
>give the tag fighter a slow 1v1 backdash
how about no faglord
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>>543169590
have it be non-cancellable after 3 or 4 dashes. Maybe differ it on a per-character basis, I dunno.
You're allowed *some* distance, but you can't run all the way back to the wall.
Balance it in a way where if they try, they'll get stuck in that backdash animation where they're fully vulnerable after they hit their cap. It'd be up to the attacker to capitalize on that.

>>543170069
Giving backdash invuln in this game would be a mistake IMO.
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I fucking hate how the devs don't actually care about actual newb experiences
>If you don't lab very specific long combos all your possible combo enders end in the opponent being able to wake up with any move of theirs turning into a DP that can TOD because of gay wakeup rules
>Same wakeup rules mean you can't even downback on wakeup as a shitter to hope defending right
>Hitstun decay is completely arbitrary
>Someone blocking your anti air generally means you're punishable, literally never the case on any other fighting game apart from reversals in anime fighters
>Completely arbitrary rules on what works when two characters are on the screen, there's no actual rule of thumb for anything because sometimes even hitgrabs and shit with extra animations work on happy birthdays while sometimes crap straight up lock you out of your follow-ups when you hit the assist but not the point
>Billion combo trials in the game all done by hardcore leet gaymers who've been playing this game for 5+ years dedicated for this specific patch are all fucking suboptimal garbage compared to literal day 1 combos, both simplified BnBs and optimals
>Pushblock doesn't even actually pushblock right
>Fury burst has stupid quirks that won't let you activate it on defense
>Things like the assist gauge appearing full when you can't actually use your assist
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>>543170069
So being able to cancel forward dash but not backdash
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>>543169590
It’s unironically not a problem when you’re good at the game
if you just walk and dashblock at a backdash spammer you’ll eventually corner them and force an action
it’s just that you retards dont have patience
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>>543169590
>make it so the assist cooldown triples if they get hit
>alternatively gut how far forward assist approach

The devs already know how to fix neutral they're probably just waiting to see if it's a real issue or just a consequence of the game being brand new and everyone being bad still
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>>543170637
>just dashblock the timewinder bro it's not like ekko gets to start pressure for free off of you blocking it
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>>543170471
i admit strive values would be too weak for this game, maybe double the inv frames, i dunno
>>543170483
you have to give it something if you don't wanna make it cancellable otherwise it becomes useless. This is a game with yasuo's normals
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the thing is, the devs are not good enough at their own game to balance it
they keep doing these pansy ass little slaps on the wrist
"yasuo damage and combo length nerfed" ok
now look at him doing 4/5 of someone's health meterless
https://x.com/HomeDepotemkin/status/1979304780658020555?s=19
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>>543170935
>im shit at the game
its a 50 frame projectile dude
sometimes instead of blocking you jump it
if you’re too close to jump it just parry it
The thing is cancer but mostly as an assist call and the fact its so aids to parry and deal with when it slows down
He can’t actually zone anyone human with it
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>>543173924
50f is the total duration you retarded cum licker
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>>543173128
They nerfed his solo combo damage a little, your tag combos should do a lot of damage tho
Teemo has a tod combo together with ahri I believe too
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>>543174214
its 61 frames total with 50 recovery frames
If you parry that shit midrange he explodes. you’re ass
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What's the counterplay to Braum's horizontal armored punch that goes nearly fullscreen
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>>543175526
don't approach him and whiff punish
don't block it
don't go anywhere near it if you can avoid that
just wait for him to miss and then punish it
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>>543175526
Parry it or jump over it
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>>543175743
>don't approach him and whiff punish
It both goes fullscreen and has him pullback massively
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>>543176103
yeah it's hard but if you're looking out for it you can deal with it. honestly if you're having problems with braum you really just gotta force yourself to stop approaching
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ekko has turned me into a racist
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What side corrects and what doesn't is random as fuck
Did anyone playtest this game
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>he doesn't play YOMI Hustle
no wonder he's gold
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>>543169590
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>>543169590
nothing wrong with it, this reply >>543170069 is a perfect example of that. appealing to fucking strivers is a bad thing
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>>543173128
You forget this is a riot game with former pro players designing it, it's not gonna be a case of them being bad, it's gonna be a big case of favortism and Riot balancing where new characters are always better and sometimes they randomly decides an unpopular character has to be played and makes them instantly powerful (see Illaoi)
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This game's proximity guard is worse than sf 5 tier
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>>543173128
based yasuo/vi CHAD BTFOing shitters SO HARD that they twitter clip THEMSELVES FOR HIM LMAO
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>>543180445
this but unironically, what a legend
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>>543181351
i wasn't being ironic, it's some grappler shitter (oxymoron) seething because he managed to get clipped by a counterhit medium starter corner combo with 3 bars put into it and thinks it's anybody's fault but his own
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https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1oa3cnu/neutral_is_not_boring_or_broken_you_are_comparing/
hahahahahaha
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>>543181590
uh oh someone has recently gotten owned by a few grappler players
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bro said "counterhit medium starter" like thats hard to achieve on yasuo
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>>543182001
>actually this is fine because the devs were degenerates in mvc3
fucking hell
also wow that subreddit is fucking ugly, you don't have to colorcode it after the shitty logo redditors
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>>543180213
Don't forget about buffing characters with new skins
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>>543180213
i guess. but the thing about nerfs in a fighting game is, it's a lot harder to fake them than it is in league. in league it's like "well after the 1 AD nerf we have to change the build to this which is almost as good but in some situations you'd do this and blah blah blah" so it can be hard to tell just how badly a nerf will affect a character. in an fg, you can just watch yasuo continue doing 80% dmg meterless and doing 21 hit combos solo without tags and go "oh lol the nerfs didnt change anything"
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>>543182742
that's true, also why Ahri is at least gonna be high midtier
>but the thing about nerfs in a fighting game is, it's a lot harder to fake them than it is in league.
not if your goal is to rotate out the character from being played to force people into playing another character, because that's what Riot will do, they might not do it right away but once new characters start rolling in they won't hesitate kneecapping old ones for the sake of sales.
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>>543182001
The person who made that thread posted after
>Its all in reading comprehension, it feels amazing compared to what its modeled after. I can win in this game, I don't think I ever won more than 20 matches in mvc as a teen because it was just to unforgiving.
That place is a zoo lmao
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bro goes on reddit
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>>543182001
>>543183354
and thus it's all starting to fall apart.
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it's saturday night
lobby when
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Steamchartsgods we’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel here
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>>543182001
>>543182571
there's one thing I don't understand
sure, retreating and waiting for assist in neutral is a thing in dbfz and umvc3
except that in both those games you have these crazy air movement options, i dont know much about umvc3 but it's pretty obvious how different it is in dbfz, not even just the movement options but stuff like kamehamehas and vanish / dragon rush
2xko does not have that, jumping forward is suicide so you're only going to be upbacking and backdashing at full screen
either you make a grounded tame game or you don't, this is just the worst of both worlds
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>neutral is shit
>monetization is ass
>roster is legendarily bad
>and worst of all not even much new art of Ahri because of the release
Has this game done ANYTHING right?
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>>543184558
>jumping forwards is suicide
uhm but you can just airblock and we’ve established airblocking is broken
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>>543184765
Happy birthdays are pretty satisfying
Playing duos is fun
...I think that's it? And both of those are very arguable
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>>543184558
the answer is simple, 2xkos devs are not actual game designers they're former pros and other fgc members, this means they don't actually think in terms of game design but more what they feel works, there's also obviously a desire to be different there but also to make it simpler to get non fgc players into it, issue again since they're not designers they dont actually understand how to do it properly and at the same time they're just throwing in mechanics from games they like with no real care or reason.
That and the game is clearly far from finished and pushed out early.
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>>543184501
>steam chart fags are the ones posting reddit where they can see updoots next to comments to tell them how to think
It all makes sense now
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>>543185332
>this means they don't actually think in terms of game design but more what they feel works
The problem IS that it all feels like shit and nobody who actually plays fighting games could ever come up with this wake-up system. What the fuck do you mean downback or upbacking doesn't fucking exist?
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really wanna play tuko today but my hands just won't listen to what i want to do. feel tired and sluggish. boo
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>>543185332
I don't see how people who play fighting games could come up with the idea to NOT put any keyframes at the start-ups of animations
This reeks amateur coder trying to make his netcode not appear as shitty as it actually is
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>>543185521
Well again not game designers and they're just bad at their job, at least they got to scam riot out of money for 10 years
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>>543185332
>they're just throwing in mechanics from games they like with no real care or reason.
this is very true, parry in this game is the most blatant "we saw the daigo parry and wanted to put it in our game" shit i've ever seen
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>>543185521
dawg idk i had trouble with that for like two days and then i just started waiting for my character to do the getup animation before holding downback.
I feel like you guys are straight mentally disabled or something, how tf do you learn new combos and blockstrings? They way you spazz so hard about something as simple as this I’d really think you’d be autopiloting with your bnbs from sfv
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>>543185876
>This reeks amateur coder trying to make his netcode not appear as shitty as it actually is
This is basically it, they're amateur devs making lots of mistakes, can also be seen in how bare bones the rest of the game is
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>>543186114
Lmao which Cannon brother are you
No that does not excuse your game handling like shit, imagine failing to find the answer to a problem that was solved 20 years ago with dozens and dozens of examples
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>>543185332
oh absolutely. i'm aware
im talking about people defending it
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>>543186114
I don't struggle with it but it is retarded and there's no reason for it to work the way it does.
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>>543186114
You can also force the player to play a concerto to get a light jab out, doesn't mean it's a good idea retard
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no the problem with having pros as game designers is that these niggas are so in their own bubble and removed from the casual non fgc gamers that they don't even fucking realize that the current gameplay will NEVER allow the game to be a mainstream success. Management needs to step in asap
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>>543184765
People are drawing ahri, but they haven't done any of her 2xko skins other than her base one yet and most of it is ahri and yassuo/ekko and I just don't care about them
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>>543186575
>yassuo
malformed thouughts are brewing in my head
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>>543186282
>im not retarded you must be a shill
sorry man
Idk it gave me cancer too but you cant seriously still have issues with it without severe braindamage
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dont care playing and having fun
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>>543186805
>still have issues
Man, it feels like I'm talking to someone who's not even high school with this reading comprehension now
Genuinely how old are you
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>>543186462
>waiting for a getup animation = playing concerto
lol
idk if fighting games are for you bro
lets see your longest combo
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>>543170069
>do x thing like strive
Opinion permanently discarded.
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>>543186114
Sorry, they're the timmies I kept tech chase throwing that never adapted for the entire set and kept rolling, it's my fault they're mad
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Teemo super assist has to be best in the game. Full screen carpet bomb combos into itself and he's 50ft in the air. Such unfair fucking garbage
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>>543186940
>downbacking doesnt exist
>no i dont have issues with it wdym?
xd?
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>>543186954
do you think he dies inside a little bit every time more people play strive at tatakai tuesday? How do you think he interact with them?
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>>543186946
>waiting for a getup animation = playing concerto
ESL? The rest of the post explains that wasn't what was implied.
You can literally just go suck a turd out of a hobos ass RIGHT now btw, that means you should do it too. Go anon, chop chop, suck that smelly thing right out.
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>>543187254
>Grifter who failed to grift
Probably
Remember when he was actively shilling for Melty Lumina even way after it was released and everybody saw that it was a trash-heap?
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>>543187407
I'm confused how promoting Lumina means youre a grifter
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>>543187279
>my analogy was actually entirely abstract and not related to the post i was responding to whatsoever
very sad attempt at bait
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>>543186672
Lmao I forgot about that guy
Used to be the face of retarded Yasuo players before he cucked out to gambling 24/7
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>>543187915
oh no i was thinking like yasuo but YASS, you know yasss queen. he'd be black and have those really long nails and whatever else those black women put on themselves
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>game with the easiest execution ever made
>people are still bitching about it
fg devs just give up PLEASE
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>>543187728
Did you miss the part where he's a streamer and was chasing controversy bucks with ragebait videos all the time or the part where he got outed and ostracized by the scene for it
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>>543189382
>outed and ostracized by the scene for it
NTA but no way you actually believe this
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>>543187279
5 bucks it's a SEAmonkey or indian using chatGPT to parse posts here
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>>543189382
Not him but which person are you talking about?
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>>543188220
That somehow managed to be worse, I didn't need to hear about that
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>>543189534
>>543189906
He literally got banned from most majors because he was there for shitting up the place and grifting
It's not a real secret
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>>543186532
The game doesn't even need to be this super hit where everyone plays it
Most of the major complaints are from all levels of play though, massive misses with design decisions
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If you lock in Ekko im just gonna alt-f4 on you lol
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>>543190595
the only grifter here is you, he's BEEN a "liability" as early as the tekken 7 days where he'd be sponsored for some official shit and say taiwan instead of chinese taipei or whatever the politcally correct term is, and that was when he wasn't straight up unhinged
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>>543189564
>the anon who doesn’t know analogies are meant to be comparative and is obsessed with hobo shitlogs is clearly of aryan descent and not an esl indian
kek nice one
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>>543170637
>>543173924
why do people who vehemently defend this game do not actually play it
or is it just bait
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>>543191513
they get paid 0.02 chroma for every bootlicking post they make online
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>>543189336
What is the point of easy controls if you let them make garbage like Ekko?
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>>543134203
fuck off, shut up. please tell me you're kidding
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>>543191743
idk bwo
i hate ekko too and i know that he's never ever EVER gonna be nerfed meaningfully because the devs all come from xrd rev 2 where setplay mix characters had 2 touch damage and great neutral and fireball yrc so they don't see timewinder as a problem or, even more likely, they don't even think it's good
all i can control is my reaction and my reaction is "darius is so cute"
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>>543192334
Next patch they'll give Darius a fully invul combo-starting +ob 10f startup lariat
Then the patch after that they're going to remove the invul, increase startup to 25f and it's going to be -15 on hit (-666 on block)
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this game has ABSOLUTELY ZERO coom
it's gonna die for sure
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>>543191513
>not a single rebuttal
I understand you think the only game that exists is the one you shitters play in low diamond but it really isnt
When you make posts exposing how terrible you are at the game you get called shit, shocking stuff
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BWEAGH BWEAGH PANCAKE CLAP CLAP BANG
>back dashes on you
*CLAP CLAP BANG* BWAUGH BWAK BWAK
>back dashes on you again
BWAK BWEAAAAGH SHOOT EM IF YOU GOT EM CLAP CLAP BANG
>wins the round
Your response?
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>millionth ekko/jinx duo with arcane skins
this game already made its fucking money back dude
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Active Tag is a horrible mechanic in every game that it’s in.
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Why do i feel like my hitbox make double inputs from time to time? It only happens in this game.....
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>>543191513
It's just the /fgg/ brownies trying to branch out because nobody new ever posts in their threads
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>>543193278
Thats me on the jinx so I’d probably pump my fist in the air and do a little jig
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https://x.com/i/status/1979484784264110103
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>>543173128
>>543195189
The combos are just going to keep getting longer and longer, aren't they? Almost 30 seconds for these two jfc.
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>beat an ekko/yasuo
>he one and dones me
feels so god damn good to hit this shit every single time (i lost that round because durrrrr yasuo super assist but i won the match)
really didn't need that second headless but it's about sending a fucking message
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>>543195589
>Shaun which is one of the most important names on the project keeps saying he wants short combos and will be steering the game towards that every single fucking dev blog
>We keep getting shit like this AND patch notes go on about how you should still be gaining fucking meter for combos that go over 16 seconds
What do you think
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Ekko/Yasuo freestyle is the Wawa tech and NA is stealing it from EU
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>>543193180
>>543193278
jinx is plenty sexo
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>>543195589
I hope we get an infinite soon so i can hit it on nerds like you
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TNS has marvel infinite on right now and brother that game looks like absolute shit how can people look at 2xko and think it looks worse
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>>543195878
>picking the two objectively best characters in the game is tech
?
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>>543196061
Nigger when the fuck did people defend MVC:I
You're just making up people at this point
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>>543196160
Whatever faggot I don't play any marvel and I see marvel get defended
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>>543195718
Kino
The evil has been destroyed
Thanks for your service Dariuschad
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>>543193449
Riot will shell out $80k for 2XKO Sajam/Boxbox slam.
That's 800 Arcane packs.
Now just try to imagine how much money they burned in their 10 years of dev time and undisclosed buyout of Rising Thundr devs
They'll need a lot of Arcane packs.
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>>543196401
You don't HAVE to make posts that out you as a retarded newfag
You CAN just lurk instead
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>>543196591
This post is so funny
Are you seriously acting like 80k is a lot to spend on advertising
Like lmao
no way are you real
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>>543196705
Why would I lurk, I'd shit on you in any game I actually play. Marvel just isn't one of them
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Be nice. We're all friends here.
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>>543196549
it ain't much but it's honest work
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>>543197278
These are the players that complain ekko is too strong need nerf by the way
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>>543197721
ekko is too strong and does need nerf smile
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i wish i had 80k...
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>>543196046
You clearly don't even play already
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>>543198245
For what?
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>>543195189
unironically sick as hell
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>>543199624
Warhammer 40k times 2
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>>543198835
rank?
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>>543199647
Cringe
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>>543197040
Are you the ''12 characters ready to go'' guy?
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I just hope the next character is a hot chick with a simple but effective gameplan
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>>543200350
How much do you think the cinematic cost bwo
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>>543163483
i hate it, too
i always do routes like picrel that avoid '6dash 7dash jfireball'
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What's Yipes' team
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>>543200496
Spot on, right?
You have to be the single most retarded ''human'' being on this thread
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>>543200579
Who cares
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i just realized, removing motion inputs makes this game's combos feel like tekken's and that's a very hard game and this game is also very fucking hard so basically the biggest thing that 2xko achieved is proving that motion input is actually irrelevant to difficulty
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>>543202091
there's always been other ways that games can have difficulty
what motion inputs DO do is add too much to the skill floor
the simple truth is beginners have trouble doing special cancels in street fighter
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>>543200953
How much bwo?
maybe 20k? maybe even 40k if they’re being crazy with it
400 arcane packs for a cinematic that makes sense
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>>543202091
>i just realized, removing motion inputs makes this game's combos feel like tekken's and that's a very hard game and this game is also very fucking hard so basically the biggest thing that 2xko achieved is proving that motion input is actually irrelevant to difficulty
Nigger every single actual executional difficulty in Tekken comes from motion inputs
Every single one of them, butterfly looks, electrics
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>>543202297
i'm a tekken guy through and through and we have no real grappler so when i tried sf6 i picked zangief to try something new and i found genuine joy trying to crack open every opponent and practicing the unusual grab input but soon i found that other zangiefs of my same rank are doing throws more consistently and using modern so i realized that they literally have a 1-button shortcut for something that i have to consciously practice for and my enthusiasm for the game lessened considerably
>>543202509
false, it's 99% timing, the other 1% is being aware of the game state (walls, floats, oki)
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How long until they delete that dog shit lobby system and just make it a search like SF6, im not sitting in a lobby waiting for some nigger to sit at my machine t play the fucking game
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>twitch doesn't care about the game
>twitter only posts clips to make fun of it
>reddit already turned on it after the honeymoon phase
4channelbros...... it's up to us to save two ex kay oh
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>>543202759
they said they working on training mode queue
also at least in this game you can match with people in any lobby
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>>543202786
>>twitter only posts clips to make fun of it
Stopped reading there
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>>543202786
already ran out of reddit threads to repost? come on steamchartsfag, you can do better than that
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>>543203246
it's so funny watching them frantically search for ANY metric to gamewar with after being deprived of their funny number
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>>543202786
there's nothing more insufferable than having a friend who talks like this offline and IRL
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>>543199624
well as of now some figures i wanna buy, a shelf to display them, and moving out from my childhood room to my mom's second apartment next door. Currently we rent it cause we need the money but with 80k i will able to give her something while being on my own
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>>543202759
I need it so I can taunt randoms in my lobby when they have meltdowns
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>>543200386
Honestly I know shes arcane but I think Cait will be pretty hot and fun in this game
Simple sniper rifle chick with big boobs blasting people is up my alley
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>>543200579
ahri 100%, he is a millia fag
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I've never touched any Riot shit before, but I enjoy fightan. Made an account. It just gives me errors when signing in.

The only suggestions I can find online are to clear the cache (obviously already tried that) or use another device... which doesn't fucking help. Is Riot just like this? Is this some sort of defense mechanism to keep me away from League?
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>>543203845
I was just thinking about Cait the other day and how she might be fun to play. She needs the Arcane tooth gap tho
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>>543203750
I had figures for 5yrs now I don't want them anymore and am living a more normoid life. Return to normalcy. Have sex.
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>>543134203
>>543088632
I NEED VEX IN A TIGHT BIKINI
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lolfags can you take off akali's mask in that game?
i like her default skin the most but without that dumb thing on her face. Asking for when she will inevitably be added
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>>543204116
Sign into another device. Had a similar problem with slow download speeds (took me 5 hours to download 2XKO for no fucking reason). Extremely weird behavior when there's a lot of praise about Riot paying ISPs for priority.
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>>543203845
>>543204258
>Cait
She's hot but she's so fucking boring
Her kit and personality is literally just "rich chick with a rifle"
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>>543202330
Please never stop. You don't know how happy it makes me that 2XKO's most rabid defender has the reading comprehension and the mental capabilities of a 4 year old.
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>>543204965
Finally got it working. Thanks, man.
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>>543205172
i know 80k is a lot of money for a neet living on funbux
Sorry for making fun of you. I get that your perspective on advertising budgets are skewed
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>>543205541
Everyone here is on the spectrum, anon.
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>>543205013
Yeah but I can imagine hitting her netgun and knocking people ten miles back with it
I can also see her getting some richochet shots, maybe you can bounce a bullet off the ceiling to hit a Yas behind his windwall, might be hopium though
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>>543205541
Please keep doubling down on your retardation
it's very amusing
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>>543205756
>I can also see her getting some richochet shots
I am once again reminded how fucking cool Erron Black's design and kit was
Shame about how NRS games actually play
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remember guys
riot has 30 characters and 80 skins already ready to go, they're just saving them for later because they'll make so much money dude
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>yet another annoying ass zoner that I'll have to be 50x better at the game to beat
UGH
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>>543196591
>riot spends literally $500 million on arcane just to advertise their free game that makes money from skins
>anon is baffled by how they are ever going to make up for spending $80 thousand on a sajam slam with only arcane packs
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>>543206305
This but unironically
When's Sol Badguy but with tits
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>>543206305
characters in games where you have to be disproportionally better than the guy using them are the most dishonest shit in the genre
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>>543206632
liderally riven
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>>543206001
i never played Mk sorry, got a synopsis? I know he’s the cowboy guy he does look
pretty hard
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>>543206701
Riven is a r*kka abuser
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>>543205756
Ricochet shit is Jhin's bag. Cait is about the long shots. A bullseye vs hawkeye thing.
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>>543206001
i really hate how much i like mortal kombat designs but the games are developed by utter morons it seems
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>>543205803
Sure, anon. Congrats on being the smartest cookie in the short bus.
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>>543206898
so is vi and she's trash
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>>543207189
>vi is trash
enough is enough bro
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>>543207261
yeah they need to buff her, she's been bad for TOO LONG
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>>543207628
ok that might be the case in league but not here
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I have discovered the game speed option while I was messing around with vi's counter, if I'm reading it right I think it has a 2 frame startup. Surprised I don't see vi's use it more often
Also you can see ahris stand out of crouch animation much better in .25 speed, it's pretty good for examining your character animations
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>>543207791
nobody gives a FUCK about league. i'm talking about TWO X K O
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>>543206490
Another dude who can't read and understand 4 lines. 2XKusO players, I swear.
But it's good you bring up Arcane, while Arcane has unmatched artistic value (season 2 sucks), it has been a financial disaster for Riot. No amount of advertisement will ever make back the sheer amount of money they burned on Arcane.
Let me lay out my point as clearly as I can as you guys are very challenged in the reading comprehension department.
Everything Riot does that is not Valorant is an advertisement for League. Sure.
Riot Forge got axed. LoR got axed. Riot's pride, their competitive ecosystem, got HEAVILY dialed down. All ''advertisement'' for League.
It's not that $80K is a lot of money, $80K is rounding error on their budget, it's that Riot has been burning money with this game for almost 10 years and there's no way they're ever going to make back a fraction they spent on this. I doubt they'll even make back the money they spent on Radiant Entertainment buyout.
Most FGs make up the bulk of their money from their launch sales, before they lose about 90% of their playerbase as time goes on. This isn't hyperbole, most FGs lose around that. SF6 is a huge outlier. This game's f2p, so that is out of the window. Their main income right now are pigs buying the $100 pack, but how long will that last?
Strive has around ~150k players, I doubt this game has much more. How many of those are going to buy the $100 pack?
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>>543208975
>Arcane was a financial disaster
>They're making a brand new show now
>Claims FG games lose 90% after release
>Ignores how it's the other way around for some titles like Tekken 7 and Strive thinking SF6 is some outlier
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oh my god we are numbers posting instead of lobby opening
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Salesfags are actually going mad without steam charts aren't they, that they need to type a paragraph to try to explain how they aren't retarded for bringing up 80k to impress their fellow neets
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>>543207001
Who'd you main?
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>>543209805
>>543209696
>They think it's bad to figure out how dead or alive your game is
Hating steamcharts posting is reddit. Go back.
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>>543210291
shut up faggot
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>>543210436
Go. Back.
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it's weird that red health goes up during supers even when a player is out of hit points
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>>543210521
no you
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>>543209446
>Arcane was a financial disaster
Yes?
Do you know how much they spent on it? And advertisement?
Do you really think they'll make back that money?
>They're making a brand new show now
Yes, it won't be Fortiche. It's going to be whatever cheap 2D garbage they can shit out.
>Claims FG games lose 90% after release
>Ignores how it's the other way around for some titles like Tekken 7 and Strive thinking SF6 is some outlier
Are you trolling?
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>>543210648
I think it's just so you can see how much damage your combo did, it'll happen when you throw someone and they're on a pixel too
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>>543210648
OVERKILL
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Kinda funny how some fags will dedicate hours of their day just to talk shit on something they hate. It's obvious they would never want the game to "be good", their joy is simply being a whinny little bitch.
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>>543214847
so weird to see doomer tribalism over a game that's literally free to try out
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>>543214847
>>543215604
IMHO, feels bad I can't enjoy games others like.
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Holy shit the side detection is literally RNG
>In the corner
>Getting comboed
>Every move that hits is exclusively ones that push me towards the wall
>Wake up
>Button literally just randomly goes towards the fucking wall and I eat a full combo because of this
And they expect me to spend money on this half finished thing?
Yes I am seething, what the fuck
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>>543216585
i've had some really weird interactions with shit going the wrong way for no reason, specifically interacting with blitz grab assist and while fighting/playing as ww in general
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>>543216585
can you post a video of this happening
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>ranked won't let me in no matter fucking what
>fine i'll go play casuals
>queue up
>"do you want to fight sonicfox and his duo"
no :) alt f4
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>>543217104
Blitz hook doesn't actually pull people but teleport them despite it looking like it hooking people in visually and it being the whole gimmick, yeah I've had weird interactions like that with Blitz because of it too
>>543217432
Maybe in the morning, I closed the game out of seethe and its very late now
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>>543217462
you could have probably just played one and quit in case he was streaming, but i also wouldn't want to play with a gay black furry if i could help it
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>>543217612
When is he going to quit and go back to pretending he likes Skullgirls?
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>>543217612
idc about his identity of course but im not trying to get turned inside out by someone 874234x better than me
there's "skill gap but playable" and there's "guy who's going to perfect me repeatedly"
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>>543217462
>reach Diamond earlier
>decide to go into Casuals because I'm tired
>obliterate a duo, one of whom literally just started the game
>close game
Felt bad
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>>543217874
There could be worse fates than getting mixed to death
I was in chrisg stream the other day watching him back dash spam a Darius player in casuals and mind broke them into giving up mid match, and then taunted him in lobby chat kek
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>>543218254
yeah that type of shit. if i at least didn't have to worry about having a couple hundred people watching me get mauled i wouldn't mind as much but i'm not trying to be the court jester
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>>543212669
>Fortiche
Watch ToBe Hero X,
The "Arcane Style" has been cracked by the Chinese. Frenchies can't charge a premium anymore
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>>543217874
After grinding Granblue to be good enough to face pros (read: not getting perfected 10 times in a row) I think I got redpilled on getting ''good'' at FGs
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i grinded strive for four years and can't even reach top rank. I think i might have adhd or something
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>>543218791
okay tell me the secret
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>>543218857
>play [bad game] for a long time
>suprised you have poor fundamentals
???
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>>543219179
but strive is good tho???
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>>543219154
The secret?
The secret is it's not worth it.
At least it wasn't for me.
Some people will get there by having a decade of experience (or more, some people have been playing FGs since they were kids), others do nothing but play the game, some will be just extremely talented individuals like Blaz.
I do believe anyone can reach the highest level with hard work, but it is straining and taxing, at that point it's more like a second job than a game. It's why I say it's not worth it, I can beat pro players or hold my own on ranked (I don't do tourneys), but it requires effort just to survive their onslaught while for them it's just another match (and they'll play hundreds of those in a day).
I'm not saying you shouldn't strive to improve, but to me wanting to reach the highest level was a fool's errand. Your mileage may vary.
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>>543220089
oh, yeah, i feel that
i'm at the point with fighting games where it's been my main genre for so long that i can reach a decent level in whatever i pick up. i'm not trying to go pro or anything like that, and i don't care about reaching max rank. i just play it for fun and don't really want that to end in a bunch of fuckers shoving a camera in my face and then, if i get my ass beat, making fun of me in front of 500 viewers on twitch, or like how sajam will randomly make a video like "this guy is fucking retarded and awful at the game, here's how to win against dogshit players like this" you feel me?
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>>543218857
Just stop taking Tylenol
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>>543194671
anyone?
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>>543194671
And for some reason it's only the left input, right?
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>>543220806
i only take venlafaxine to not kill myself, but i suspect it actually made me a bit retarded unironically
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im seeing a weird amt of braums tonight. did he win in tns or something? lol
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https://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
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>>543221806
it's everything tbqh and i feel like it's only on the menu. Also every model i inspect it's spining.
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>>543223198
My characters on a left side during select so maybe thets why i didn't noticed other diretions, but yeah, some strange fuckery is afoot with double inputs in menues
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>doing Illaoi trials
>Expert Combo 2
>can't connect the charged 2H
wtf is going on. Do I need to stagger the air sequence a bit so I land on the ground sooner? Is it a partial charge?
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>>543223467
i remember this being a pain in the fucking ass
i had to go look back thru the archive and saw an old post i made about it, which said
>delay the j.s1 until you're as close to the ground as you can, because that'll give you more time to run forward and charge the 2h.
trying to hit it now lol
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>>543223467
>>543224094
specifically, wait a little longer between the j.m>j.h and the j.h>j.s1
oughta work
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i think tokon will not be more successful
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>>543224287
actually the j.h>j.s1 can be pretty quick my b. but yeah
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>>543224386
it looks pretty but i'm not interested in playing another dumb snowball fest with wallbreaks, i got my fill of that in strive and i just don't want to deal with that shit
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>>543224386
No shit. When you trying to make niche shity sub-ganre from mostly dead ganre it will always will be shit. But at least it will bring sales. Marvel slop will sell, no doubpt.
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>>543224386
but the key difference is that it will be money up front and make back its money, it also has an IP people actually like, which also reminds people of a game with a legacy and its also made by Arcsys which you scoff at but casuals loves that animation, so it will probably do well and at the very least.
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>>543224386
It'll do well upfront, but the longevity remains to be seen.
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>>543220089
Good fighting games should be rewarding on your growth as a player for learning and pulling off cool shit in-game.
There's fun in getting your ass beaten. You can suck at pulling off combos and understanding how stuff works through practice.
Infinitely have more fun playing 2XKO as F2P than games I thought it would be fun to grind like NASB1 and RoA2.
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Im starting to think maybe Ahri is not a good partner for Blitzcrank after all..
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>>543233091
amen
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>>543227791
>it also has an IP people actually like
only in NA. It doesn't have the global reach of dbz
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>>543119565
probably because it was remade a few times
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Would making it so that every character can bat away Ekko's timewinder with a heavy, at least before it hits its sweet spot, be too much?
I know they nerfed it already, but that shit's still incredibly oppressive.
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>>543208975
>arcane lost money
Proof?
it got a second season and they’re making a third right now
Arcane was the biggest breakthrough league had into public conciousness in forever, they had tiktok girls making thirst videos about Jayce
That shit made gangbusters
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>>543236349
I think it should be breakable when its slowed down, like jinx’s traps
Or at least made easier to parry
The thing is just way too dangerous for way too long especially when he gets it off an assist too
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>>543233620
>It doesn't have the global reach of dbz
>Marvel isn't popular anywhere else in the world
>Spider-man is less popular than Goku
Actually delusional
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>Proof?
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-12-30/riots-250-million-arcane-tv-series-was-a-netflix-hit-financial-miss
>The first season of the show was a critical success, earning four prizes at the 2022 Emmy Awards. It also topped Netflix’s chart of the most-watched titles in dozens of countries.
>Yet interviews with Riot Games employees and industry analysts indicate it was a commercial failure for the company. Riot spent so much of its own money developing and marketing the show that it didn’t make money from the production. The show also failed to convert many new players or get existing players to spend more money on “League of Legends.”
It was basically a marketing stunt to try and get people to play League, it didn't get them to play league so it wasn't just a finanical loss it also failed at it's mission which had it at least done the latter Riot could've tanked the cost and recoup in skin sales.
>Arcane was the biggest breakthrough league had into public conciousness in forever, they had tiktok girls making thirst videos about Jayce
Yes but none of them started playing league of legends because of it and thus aren't spending money on it and league has barely any merch outside of the games, it's also why they're pushing the Arcane cast hard for 2xko because it is litearlly the only thing about league of legends people like
>That shit made gangbusters
tiktok videos doesnt make you money, it's free marketing but if no one watching that marketing actually start playing your game it's all a waste.
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>>543238095
but it's true?
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i'm a 15 year fighting game vet and northernlion rank mogs me in this game
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>>543238610
no it's not, Goku is popular, but Spider-man is a genuine world wide icon that even your grandma could name if she was still alive.
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>>543238629
15 year vet and still watching streamers lol, lmao even.
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>>543238501
>interviews indicate
So why are they making a third one man?
Just to burn more money?
They must clearly just not care about money at all
>if you advertise to someone and they dont spend money on it the ad was wasted
wow you’re like a genius or something
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>>543238934
>So why are they making a third one man?
because it's literally the only thing people like about league of legends and Netflix partly foots the bill since it was one of their biggest hits ever, it was still a huge finanical loss for Riot, they can soak it and maybe hope this time it will make people play their games but it wont work, that and animated shows always order more before the first season is done airing so they can get out more in time, Arcane is being carried on Netflix views and critical reception.
>They must clearly just not care about money at all
they do, but they're willing to spend some to make more (in theory)
But in the end Arcane has been a huge financial loss for Riot that hasn't done much for their bottomline and only slightly increased the reputation of the League of Legends IP
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>>543239260
Dude they announce shit during the first season’s release cycle just to build hype.
They cancel it right away if the season flops especially when it costs something like hundreds of millions.
If you want to be real, league has been slowly dying for years at this point and arcane was the literal only blip on the heart monitor.
It’s less to get new people to start playing league and more to bring back people who quit or encourage spending from people who do play, they pretty much have to keep shovelling money into it.
Advertising isn’t only for newfags my retard, sometimes you advertise to your base so they keep dropping 20s on your battle passes
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>>543207915
>2f
If it's not 1f invuln it might as well be 40f startup as a counter. You literally die for getting frametrapped with it.
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>>543242012
My daughterwife powpow..
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>>543241282
>Dude they announce shit during the first season’s release cycle just to build hype.
animation takes so long you have to plan these things in advance, season 2 was already locked in by the time they started animating season 1, it happens all the time.
>They cancel it right away if the season flops especially when it costs something like hundreds of millions.
again in animation you work on several seasons in advance, this is why Simpsons keeps getting announcements that it will have another 5 seasons ordered and shit, its very rare that a show gets killed after one season
>If you want to be real, league has been slowly dying for years at this point and arcane was the literal only blip on the heart monitor.
Yes and Arcane didnt help player numbers this is well established
>Advertising isn’t only for newfags my retard
I've never said this, fact is still that Arcane did not manage to increase playercount period, hench why its a failure there too ontop of being a financial one, it keeps going based on Netflix getting profits on it and critical reception alone
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>>543244635
They spent 3 years on arcane 2.
That’s a pretty normal entire life cycle for a tv season, even an animated one
Simpsons seasons have like 6 months inbetween them, terrible comparison
>it’s a fact arcane didn’t budge the playercount
you’ve ignored my point.
So long as arcane gets an extra battle pass out of a good dozen million players or so, it has made it’s money back. The player count doesn’t need to budge whatsoever for there to be profit.
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>>543245163
Bro literally said
>It's very rare that a show gets cancelled after one season
and you're still arguing with him. Are YOU retarded?
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>>543245596
I’m simply a man who enjoys my articulation with my morning coffee
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>>543246569
>plays ekko
you deserve it thoughbeit
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>>543242012
I bought the arcane skin but i still use base jinx because of the haircut and the tattoos…
Why did they remove the tattoos on her skin its so sad
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>>543251718
>Arcane Jinx doesn't have the 'hair tongue bangs' coming out of her hood
They had one job. I'll probably get it next month since I'm a Jinx main, but I'm really craving the Crime City skin
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>>543252283
Luckily I play JinxVi so i still get use out of the sexo Vi skin.
Arcane actually looks so much hotter than base Vi it’s an actual grift.
They made base Vi crazy uggo with the yugioh haircut and that terrible color scheme
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>>543253168
I would not be able to play the character if base skin was the Arcane one. The base alt color scheme is nice as well. Thank you for paying for my ticket.
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>>543251718
I hate how it's this weird hybrid of both her arcane outfits.
Esp. weird since Ekko and Vi's arcane outfits are probably their most accurate in-game translations but Jinx gets this weird mix.

I get that they probably can't go as far as adapting her entire kit to fit her hoverboard/minigun/bazooka hybrid thing, but still.
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What's it like to have irl friends to play fighting games with?
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>>543254898
no one has, you become friends with strangers playing fgs
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>>543233620
Delusional, even for this thread's standards.
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>>543223198
some people said its due to the unlimited frame cap that is in menu only, which you can turn off which should fix inputs
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>>543224094
>>543224287
>>543224394
So it requires a little dash forward or nah?
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>>543254898
its cool
i duo with these guys and its chill
different vibe to playing solo
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>>543238501
They gave arcane skins for free. I think they must be trying to build public for other games they're making, such as 2XKO and the League MMORPG.
Mobas are dead anyway.
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>>543259573
Only really care about 2XKO and the MMO. Sucks that Dreamblade and Pool Party were cancelled.
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>>543253408
They had to hedge their bets because both Jinx outfits were already so similar and unlike Vi and Ekko whose base look was already 90% S1 Arcane, Jinx was still mostly in her league attire.
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>>543254898
Infinite casual set to muck around is pretty fun
Duo is the superior experience since you get to shit talk the opponent together, and coordinating attacks never gets old, sharing a win together is great
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>>543238934
>So why are they making a third one man?
>>543212669
>it won't be Fortiche. It's going to be whatever cheap 2D garbage they can shit out.
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>>543264382
>not Fortiche
What's the fucking point then
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>>543264382
proof doko
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>>543265043
https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/riot-games-arcane-hollywood-netflix-most-expensive-animated-series-ever-1236196655/
https://animexnews.com/2-seasons-of-arcane-cost-250-million-making-it-the-most-expensive-animated-series-ever/
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>>543260586
People'd fucking buy both, let's be real.
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also one thing: what set Arcane apart from other animated shows was how good it looked. Arcane's season 1 story is good, but it's nothing groundbreaking, with season 2 having horrible story but somehow looking even better
You remove Fortiche out of the equation but let the terrible writers in. What's the result?
unless >>543218542 is onto something, but it's not a Premium Fortiche charges, doing their art style correctly is expensive on itself and I'd be wary of chinks trying to cut corners
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ahri 6T and 4T
blitz 6T and 4T
illaoi 6T
ekko 6T
darius 4T
teemo 4T

assists that leave you standing on hit
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>>543265683
There's literally nothing in either about s3 brainlet salesfag, not to mention the first article was made before the second season even released and is out of date and the second is a chatgpt tier article
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>>543265683
This proves nothing lol, if they wanted to cut advertising costs they could’ve been doing so for years.
The music videos they make each year just to shill worlds are hardly cheap.
If anything, riot has a track record for continually over producing their ads. Even that one 2xko cinematic probably cost them at least a couple milly
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>>543267430
>s3
?
anon you've won
they're definitely going to spend another $300M and get Fortiche to do another season of arcane any minute now, this game will definitely not EoS in 2 years like LoR and I will definitely not come back here with a screenshot of this post then
hope this helps you sleep at night
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>>543267210
Illaoi 6t knocks up when it spawns the tentacle though
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>fighting people with nearly 1000 matches played on a character
>in Diamond
what the fuck
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>>543245596
animated shows generally get 2 seasons unless they're extremely terrible, those seasons can be short but they are generally decided before hand just to keep production going in case the first one is a huge hit, it's not rocket science and is industry standard
>>543245163
>They spent 3 years on arcane 2.
animation of that caliber takes time and it had a troubled development (common theme with all league spinoffs)
>Simpsons seasons have like 6 months inbetween them, terrible comparison
you seriously don't think they're creating a season of simpsons in 6 months now are you?
>you’ve ignored my point.
because your point is dumb, yes it might sell a few more battlepass, it still failed to attract more players into the game and thus the ecosystem, hench why it was both a failure of the intent and finanical one, current league players buying arcane skins is less than that plus new players buying and playing because they watched the show.
>>543259573
>They gave arcane skins for free. I think they must be trying to build public for other games they're making
well yeah Riot started making LoL spinoffs to make it into a multimedia and multi game franchise exactly because the mobas reputation is just that bad, also constant growth and other bullshit
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Arcane burned so much money they had to put a covetous jeet as CEO and League has since seen the most money hungry tactics in forever but the little Emerald 3 nigger has to cope because if he doesn't he'll hang himself kek
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>>543268467
That anon hoping for another full fledged fortiche series is coping, especially now that they're pivoting to working on original theatrical stuff, but I don't think this'll go the LoR route.

At least there's skins that people are gonna whale for with this, There was literally nothing to spend you money on with LoR. Like who the fuck gives a shit about cosmetics in a card game.
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>>543267980
>This proves nothing lol
man do you work for Riot or something because theres no way you're saying this despite clear evidence said by Riot themselves.
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>>543269115
>they had to put a covetous jeet as CEO
I guess the next 2XKO character will be a blonde busty white woman then
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>>543269237
I don't keep up with riot news so I was actually hoping for a decent article to read, I played tft a couple sets back and just came back for the fg, all Ive seen recently are whatever gets posted here and what the Brazilian doomtroon spazzes out about
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>>543269106
>you seriously don't think they're creating a season of simpsons in 6 months now are you
lmao you are RETARDED
obviously the simpsons need to be approved 5 seasons in advance because they’re releasing every 6 months
Guess how long the timeframe between 5 seasons of the simpsons is? wow, its 2 years and 6 months. Gee I wonder if the 6th one can still be cancelled
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>>543270656
>obviously the simpsons need to be approved 5 seasons in advance because they’re releasing every 6 months
oh man and you're the one calling people retarded
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>>543269312
Next year for sure league of legends will die and they’ll release a powerpoint for the worlds song they’ll be so cucked and poor
Fingers crossed man, next year for sure
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>>543269670
Jeets don't care about fighters. We belong to the sand niggers now.
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>>543270080
>I don't keep up with riot news
I guess that's the difference between us. I know what I'm talking about, you don't.
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>>543270768
?
They have five different teams of niggas all making the slop 2 years in advance so it comes out at a clip
It still takes years for each one but obviously they have to approve them 5 seasons in advance to keep the assembly line rolling.

It’s a terrible comparison to arcane 2 which had 3 years and a hundred million dollars to cancel itself when they they learned the first season was an astroflop maximum as you say it is.
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>>543272982
I guess you're not trying to hide it anymore if you're getting baited by getting called a Brazilian doomtroon, are you esl favela shitter
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Emeraldshitter here, for high level people, is Ekko's assist only a problem w/ 2x assist, or in general?
I've been seeing more of him, but the only time I feel like it's been a big problem is when he just goes fullscreen with it when he does it twice.
Hell, I feel like I get punked more by Yasuo's fullscreen crossup assist more if we're just talking about DD/Freestyle. Or is the problem moreso that he can start a whole ass string from it?
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>>543275345
I sure do hope people enjoy fighting Ekko and Yasuo
they're here to stay
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>The stupid rito launcher takes around 400mb ram by itself in the background
>This is ignoring vanguard and the memory leaks
Wow
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>>543275698
I'm only in Diamond but yeah, it's a problem regardless. It's especially problematic with 2X, but it's still a very good assist regardless
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>>543262927
>>543258462
Jealous. That life wasn't meant for me I guess
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>>543275345
I do wonder how balancing is gonna work when half the devs are top players.

Like, is Ekko and Yasuo right now being miles better than everyone is a simple consequence of the game being balanced around degens who've grinded the game behind the scene for years and the masses just hasn't found out what everyone else is capable of? Like, if you as a dev not only have time to lab but also tweak these characters kit, like, are there just busted shit or gameplans people haven't found yet? Are they just waiting for the meta to settle?

I mean just reading at the patch notes, I assume they know where the pain points are, but I wonder where the aversion to just completely obliterating a top tier's kit comes from? Is Ekko and Yasuo less of a "problem" for them as people who've grinded the game for god knows how long and they're just balancing it based on that top end?
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>>543277361
>Ekko and Yasuo right now being miles better than everyone
EVO France top 16 had one person with ekko/yas as a team dude
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>>543275698
Any kind of slowmoving hitbox is always the strongest kind of projectile.
The fact he gets it off an assist is crimminal, good ekkos can just throw one, tag in and run mix on you.
It isn’t an instant win neutral out of nowhere though he does need to play around it correctly. Ekko’s OTHER assist though?
MY TIME is some shit
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>>543277668
I was rambling so I worded it like shit, but that's kinda my point yeah.

Like, At the top top end, they might not be a problem sure, but how would the devs balance it when they themselves are top players, and all the adept/intermediate players, hell even online killers, as that chart shows, are clearly playing a different game where Ekko/Yasuo is dominant.

Are they gonna focus on the competitive integrity for the players who actually are in that elite space of consistently being in top 8s, flying around for majors, their peers, or former peers, rather, or are they gonna focus more on the "masses" so to speak.
I don't think they're gonna do what Tekken've been doing recently, of catering to the lower median of the playerbase, but I am curious to how they're gonna handle this.
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>>543277361
Usually devs have a skewed perspective because they test into less people.
They were saying that Ahri was as good as Ekko and Yas last patch, a single good Ahri player on the QA team probably can create that impression.
They don’t play into 10 billion ekkos and yasuos because even if they’re easier to get to a high level with there just arent as many people to play and abuse them
Applogyman plays Jinx and people say shes bottom 3 so clearly he’s got something going on
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>>543277361
I hear sometimes Devs have weird perspectives because they’re spending more time playing with unreleased stuff. Maybe the next two-three champions just dick down Ekko and Yas so hard they don’t have the perspective that it’s as big of a problem
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>>543246569
blitz 2s1 is absolute dogshit outside of assisting combos
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>>543278396
you don't have to justify yourself or respond to people that try to downplay either of those characters
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Does anybody else hate fighting duos as a solo? Personally it's my least favorite part of the game, it just feels so unfair as if I was actually being 1v2d. As a scrub I can barely play 1 character and barely remember to call my assist, so having to fight two guys who only need to worry about playing 1 character who use their assists on cd feels pretty bad
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>>543280662
dunno what rank you're at but after gold, I basically see duos as free points.

Worst case scenario is that one of them is a killer, and the other guy is only present after I kill the point and wash em.
Best case scenario, the partner fucks it up for them.
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idc about anything else they need to nerf the fucking startup of warwick's overhead. 19f is a fucking hatecrime against old people
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the devs have an anti-unc agenda
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What do you even do on wakeup?
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>>543281798
what does that mean. i'm unc
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>back to the corner
>get crossed up by Yasuo diving me with his stupid diagonal air slash
why can you just easily steal the corner like this
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>>543282034
I take a shit then I get out of bed
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>>543282401
it wouldn't be fair if yasuo had a weakness (no other character has them) so they have to make sure he can rape you with 10 frame jumpscares and quadruple overheads (stance hop>j.l>j.2h>air alpha blade) and feints no matter where you are on the screen
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>>543282401
Just parry it
I parry a yasuo’s crossup one time and then he gets mindbroken and never presses it again
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>>543281798
wait until they add drive impact to the game
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>>543274374
k
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>>543275345
LE EKKO/YASUO TEAM
IS
LE
WEAK
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>>543269237
Really? Thought Arcane didn't come back to Fortnite because Epic didn't approach them. Something like Snake and Sora not being in Smash because neither Konami and Square were approached by Nintendo.
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>teemo everywhere
>ekko everywhere
>yasuo everywhere
think i'm calling it quits for today lads
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no guys don't you see all this bullshit is okay because the devs are good at the game
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>>543278396
Riot usually balances a little for both, they'll target high elo mostly and shoot anything that pub stomps too hard, I imagine the reason they were light with yassuo and ekko to start is because in lower elo their win rates are probably fine
They only have Evo and some ranked as data rn, I bet we'll have to wait until another tourney results come out before another big patch to them
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>>543287891
pretty retarded tweet
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>>543287891
>Strive player
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>>543287891
>>543288231
if anything you could have a very skewed view of the game by playing the game in ranked a lot, specially if he uses only a single team
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>>543289645
He's playing Teemo Ekko right now, and before that, he was playing Jinx Ahri and all he did was abuse tag super with Jinx. For context, the devs said that they are happy with the way that tag super works lol
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>>543290103
really does make me worry about the future of this game desu
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>>543287891
So is apologyman going to be 2xko's mortdog or august that we blame everything in the game on now?
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dont worry, we made jinx/teemo tag super have a 5 second cooldown instead of 3
it's balanced now
jokes aside do you guys think they'll ever make it to where ekko doesn't just automatically win the round if he ever makes you block a single max range 5m
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>>543290839
Realistically? No. They didnt know when to stop giving him tools so now the character is in a situation where you either make him useless or he's overpowered. Same goes for Yasuo. They have too many tools to ever be bad/mid/high tier, they need to be de-kitted, but thats not going to happen
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Tag super is fun bitches
Just block the mix
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>>543291885
i know it's fun to use on people but having to put up with it is fucking bullshit
>just block the mix
brother
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>>543291885
tag super is fun but its not when everyone gets 1 bar from round start, and meter builds insanely fast even with the "nerf" to meter build in the recent patch. On top of that there's no meter carry to rounds so it's inconsequential to not use you meter efficiently, nobody has to ever think "should I use this now or keep it because meter is a scarce resource" you use use it whenever you feel. Its really poor game design, honestly
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>>543292496
i think something that would really help this game feel more balanced between "characters that can beat the shit out of you while their super is going" and "characters that can't" would be if you just didn't build meter while you had an install active (ekko, illaoi) and if you didn't build meter during super tag (jinx, teemo)
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>>543293125
also if you didn't build meter during shit like ahri's super 1 and ekko's timewinder super. i'm sure there's other examples i'm forgetting but you get what i mean
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>every Ekko I fight is doing some crazy midscreen or corner combo
>try it myself
>can't ever get the timing right on the partially charged j.H > j.S1
am i just remedial. i'm not super interested in playing him because he's in every fucking match and i'm tired of seeing him, even if i really like the character, but why is this shit so hard yet every fucking ekko pulls it off consistently
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>>543292496
Meter carry should never be in this game, because that's just asking for you to fuck up your round start and instantly get hit with a tod with 2 lvl 1s and a lvl 3
Using supers is fun, it's nice that lvl 1s are generally pretty good and everyone doesn't sit there for their lvl 3s all the time other than Yasuo
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Pool Party Skins doko
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>>543294036
it's just something you practice
these guys have hundreds of games on the character
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>K7 lost to EU random named Opal
>Hikari lost to EU random named Goomboo
>Inzem lost to EU faggot Leffen
>MysticSmash lost to random Josch
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>adding meter carryover is a shit idea
>leaving as it is is a shit idea too
gee it's almost like the game is trash or something
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>>543293125
>>543293558
I agree with you but the gameplay and balancing team has legitimate retards like apologyman and yohosie on them so its never going to happen

>>543294241
I can already do 75% round start with an inefficient combo with Teemo and Ahri using my two level 1s, what difference would it make if I had more meter? Most of the time I don't even use it and opt for a limit strike combo with Ahri so that I can make you guess high low on oki and keep going with Teemo's back assist if you guess right, either way you're dead

How about the devs actually think about super meter being a scarce resource that should be earned and used effectively, and tone down the damage in general? Or is that too much to ask for? Im not saying meter carry is a good thing or needed, Im just saying the way its implemented currently is bad game design
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>>543293125
Didn't they reduce the meter you gained from a Jinx supertag combo already? I know they replaced her with Teemo instantly but they'll probably add that to his retroactively at the very least
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>>543295121
i don't think meter has to be scarce, it's just that there's a HUGE gap between "characters with outrageous supers that hold you down for mix/hold you down so the other char can tag in and pile more damage on/let you build back the meter you spent on it by comboing while it's going" and "characters with supers that just kind of deal some damage/do one hit" and i think that's probably the biggest one of the biggest discrepancies between character strength right now
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I just can't pick a character to main... I bought ww after trying his combo tutorials, but it feels very hard to engage with him against vi for example. I tried darius against my friend and he felt nice to play with his mouthbreather unga bunga moveset, but against people who know what they are doing (unlike me and my friend) he feels pretty weak. Yasuo feels strong and fun to play, but I'm too retarded to pilot him properly. Ahri just feels very bad to play. Probably will try jinx next, but I heard she's difficult and a zoner, so idk.
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>>543295653
Erm both of Yasuo's supers just kind of deal damage thoughever
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>>543295121
>what difference would it make if I had more meter
err uhh, you would do less damage and wouldn't be able to do lvl 3 until your next match and the opponent would heal from your super instead, yes there is in fact a downside to having more meter to use when you do a combo
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>>543295771
yasuo can dhc into himself and he can also tag to teemo and let the rat set up mushrooms or he can tag to ekko and let him put down a sidewinder.
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>>543295863
Basically every character can tag out of their super and get setup out of it
Even Darius can tag out of his spin super no?
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>>543294492
Josch I think was high ranked on EU ladder and was rank 1 for a bit
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>>543296004
yea that's fair enough. but yasuo is a fucking freak of nature + gets to spend 3 meters to do 4 meters worth of super so i think that's fine. he can also do super 1 into otg super 2
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>>543295684
Jinx isnt that hard in lowlo
She's pretty fun you basically just do two things
If they're close to you you fish for a sweep into launcher and do a simple footdive into charged heavy aircombo.
If they're any further than that you just tag them with your mediums and shoot them with minigun into rocket into zap
If they're further than that then you shoot rockets at them

That simple flowchart will get you to emerald no cap
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>>543295784
I can tell you're a low level player because you instantly defaulted to "b-b-b-but lvl 3" because in your dogshit lobbies the players only know combos to routes to that and do what they think is a big damage combo. You completely ignored everything I said about doing crazy damage with unoptimal combos, or my Ahri limit strike into fireball oki that two touches you and your only option is to guess correctly or die (with the use of a single lvl 1 super btw). Shitters like you should just go back to playing your silver games and mashing for fun.

>>543295653
Maybe, but they cant do that without completely redesigning how the supers works from character to character, or completely redesign how doubledown as a fuse works. Both of those options would be huge revamps to the game and I doubt they will do that anytime soon
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>>543296712
speaking of ahri's fireball oki why do you have to parry projectiles high + why can't you pushblock them come ONNNN
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>>543296798
because its a fireball and it doesn't have a collision box
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>>543297018
idc about that, i'm pretty sure in other games with pushblock you can pushblock vs. a projectile and it works. i'm already spending my assist cooldown AND exposing my assist to danger the least the game could do is throw me a fuckin bone
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>>543295121
pic: FOOTSIES/bootsies
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>>543296394
Man, I love that Jinx colour. It's a shame Vi doesn't get an equivalent.
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>>543296394
this webm is crazy because braum probably has the single best 2h in the entire game for shitting on that divekick lol
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>>543297212
you will guess on my Ahri's fireball oki and you will tell yourself that you're having fun
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Is blitz into teemo the worst matchup possible?
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>>543298289
it's pretty horrible considering his rocket punch can't destroy mushrooms unless they're in the air
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>>543287891
I swear between this and the 100 usd skinbundle the FGC has actually gone fully retarded, do they think Riot is gonna hire them all and give them tons of money? it's the only reason I see people saying this dumb shit that they would be complaining about in other fighters.
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Completed every characters combo trial, FUCK Vi electrics and FUCK jinxs retard ass last expert combo.

Actually im fully done every single tutorial or solo content in the game now which is kinda nice for my completionist autism
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>>543298468
I dunno, I saw a lot of dix dickriders when that game came out with the exact same shit. Its just that fighting games have always been kinda shitty and these people desperately want them to be good because their entire personality revolves around fgs
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>>543298770
just reminded me i never went and did vi expert 3 ugh
that last jinx combo was a fucking nightmare lol it took me at least 45 minutes because i didn't realize the game wanted me to hit with 2h and cancel it into the next trap
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>colossus combos you twice
>dead
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>>543298953
he must be top tier!
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>>543298907
most were happy with SF6 as a product but were annoyed at the monetization which if we're gonna be honest is not as bad as 2xko's, skins are still shitty because it also uses funny bucks in uneven amounts but they're at least cheaper and SF6 did not offer a 100 dollar bundle, I've seen actual FGC people who are known adovocate now that SF6 should also add 20 dollar skins like 2XKO, so no it still feels like online FGC or at least the pros, yters and commentators have gone full retard mode to appease riot for some reason.
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>>543298770
Did you have fun, anon?
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>>543298770
jinx last combo is hilarious
gotta try that shit in a real match
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>>543298920
>vi expert 3
yeah fuck that goodluck
>>543299740
Yeah mots of the combos are actually satisfying to pull off, a small amount are just fucking cancer tho
>>543300729
If anyone gets that retard shit in a real match they deserve my eternal respect
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>>543294492
Leffen ended up winning, beating inzem twice kek
Yasuo teemo again
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>>543299323
>sf6 monetization not as bad
>must buy characters and can't lab them for free
You are the gayest faggot that has ever drawn breath and I hope you suffocate on cock someday. This is such a dumb take it is infuriating. Skins don't matter you fucking manbaby.
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ive unlocked all the chars i want and the stages too
now i can spend on stickers and chromas yippee
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>>543303084
Nice, in only like a week and a half of playing? That's pretty good for f2p rate
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What's a simple and good WW BnB bros help me out
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>>543302380
jeez hope you're not doing this for free
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>>543304910
he is objectively correct thoughbeit
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>>543304669
5M > 2M > 5H > 3H > 2S2.L > 5L > 5M > 2H > j.M > j.H > j.S1 > 6S2 > S2S2S2 > S2S
works anywhere on screen, starter doesn't work on yasuo for some reason
corner also is
5M > 2M > 5H > 3H > 6S1 > 2M > 5H > 2H > same air combo as before
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>>543294261
I can't believe they haven't released yet
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>>543299323
online FGC are just smitten by the fact that characters are functionally free. The idea that people don't have to spend money to lab and TOs don't have to spend god knows how much to run shit is basically blinding them to the rest of how the monetization works for normal people.
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>>543306497
you can choose one or the other:
>$60 for 2xko plus $30 for a season pass
>$0 for 2xko plus $0 for all character and stage unlocks
this is actually a pretty easy choice for literally everybody on earth, not just "fgc people"
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>>543306497
The contrarianism is rotting your brain from the inside. You can still seek help. Stop being retarded on purpose.
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Oh, Teemo's mushrooms don't start being active until pretty late huh.
I can basically just dash in, run past the shrooms, and go apeshit on them if they try to setup mushroom shit on roundstart.
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>>543306497
That's why Multiversus died, imbecile. Running competitive tournaments to drive hype when locals have to pay +$200 USD per setup for the game is moronic.
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>>543309084
you do realize 2xko has an offline client, right?
and that it unlocks everything?
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>>543309719
The offline client that has all the skins are only handed out to TOs IIRC.
The online client that everyone gets only unlocks all the colours and stages for you. And characters, of course. IIRC it just remembers what skins you have unlocked the last time you log on.

But yeah, I think that's what he's saying, Multiversus died because it doesn't have that option.
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>>543309895
They removed it in the relaunch.
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>>543309990
Check your install directory, it's still there.
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>>543309895
Literally just check where the game is installed
They advertised it multiple times too
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>>543310768
No man, there's like different offline clients. Open yours right now, there's not gonna be skins on it. At least not the ones you haven't bought.

There's a different one that has everything. That's the one they had on Evo France.
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>>543309895
>>543310979
Damn dude I guess you can't run an unofficial tournament because nobody will play without their skins. RIP freedom.
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>>543310160
No, Multiversus from relaunch to end of life had offline play paywall characters and perks. 2XKO has everything unlocked except skins, there's a client only for approved TOs with all skins unlocked.
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>>543305971
Thanks bruv
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>>543297324
Right? Seems like such a slam dunk duo
Vi with blue hair sounds pretty sexo too idk what happened.
Could even colour each of her gauntlets individually either fishbones or powpow
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>>543312837
>>543297324
they'll probably add more colors for each skin over time
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>>543299323
>SF6 did not offer a 100 dollar bundle
wow im so glad sf6 is so generous with my time and money thanks capcom!
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>>543313142
Hopefully ay.
I've seen some colours actually tweak the textures as well, I feel like they could really play around with that. I think they've a good framework w/ their character rigs being modular to just take bits apart to vary things up.
They already do this w/ the lower tier skins that're just fancy retextures w/ some parts switched around. Hopefully they'll extend that to colours.
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>>543313178
>120 snow pesos
Too much for a game only played in Japan.
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>>543312837
Pulse Vi had blue hair and everyone hated on it when it released
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>>543313685
I think people hate it more for the weird orange/skin-tone suit and not the hair.
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>getting absolutely destroyed by an Ekko/Yasuo
>combo beast
>nearly give up
>waitaminute these mix-ups are ass
>defend and punish with my dusty ass shit BnBs
>win the set
I guess the added benefit of fighting so many Ekkos/Yasuos is the experience you get. Not sure i woulda done it if they didn't crumble once their plan got found out
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>>543314662
it's easy to get overwhelmed in this game but truly sometimes you can just step back and let them kill themselves
fought an ekko the other day that literally did not do anything but jump->air timewinder and once i calmed down i just kind of flattened him
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>>543314884
>sometimes you can just step back and let them kill themselves
So uuhh
What do I do if the other guy is either a Teemo or Jinx
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>>543315076
:)
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>>543313802
The color was from the original skin, which had even worse shades and was more bland imo
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>>543161736
I thought they were going to reduce how long combos last for.
This is even longer than alpha 1 lmao
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>play into a warwick teemo as warwick teemo with my duo
>we win 2-0 and he alt-f4s out of the last second
lmao
>play into juggernaut ahri next
>he one and dones
lmao
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I think im dropping teemo for now
Jinx is just more satisfying and I think her synergy with Vi is better
Sorry teemobros
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>>543319738
good... good... the teemo downplay is in full effect...
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>>543319738
i really wanted to like teemo and have him as my secondary character but his assists feel too lacking and i don't like super->tag mix shit
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So when can you go into Teemo's charged 6s1 in combos and is it ever worth it
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Does pushblock straight up delete your input buffer
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lobby bobby
NA EC
d7vw8j0x
d7vw8j0x
d7vw8j0x
havent played in a week or so
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I swear to god the burning bush is a bigger detriment than help.
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>The stupid tranny is actually backing up our resident complainer
Finally...
Maybe it can get fixed now...
https://x.com/i/status/1980056370536661455
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https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1oardna/is_backdash_assist_strong_or_just_easy/nkbdmif/
Riot is paying Indians to defend this game online
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>>543325823
>all these cool promotional images without my hubby in them
im tired boss
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i think the worst part about backdash assist call neutral is how little counterplay there actually is
>parry the assist
still can't punish the point character, they actually turn invincible
>push block the assist
they can still handshake to it and now you have the longer assist cooldown
>hit the assist
risks getting clipped by it instead, even if you do hit it you can't do much damage because if you start a combo the point character can just come punish you for punishing them
and you can't even do ANY of this if the assist is a projectile
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>You wanna Braum good? Then don't play him. Play any other character as soon as possible.
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>>543327485
this just applies to literally any character that isn't ekko yasuo or ahri
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>>543325823
wtf blitz is le good??
>>543326092
im pretty sure it's supposed to be the top 5 teams or something
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>>543328889
it is, im just bitching to bitch
i should learn sfm or blender or something so i can just make my own desu
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>>543325823
>the top 5 teams doesnt have a single ekko/yasuo
b-b-but it's the best team in the game and theres no counterplay to it..
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hey bros do you think she'd date me if I hit challenger
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>>543329573
Yes
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>>543329228
interesting very interesting what do you have to say about the overwhelmingly most-played team in challenger ranking though? >>543275345
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>losing to an Ekko because of timewinder and strike+throw mix-ups
>his normals are deceptively huge and beat mine
>coverts into fuckhuge damage
i hate this character so fucking much
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>>543331464
i got anti-aired by his fucking 2m earlier dude
this guy has got to go
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>>543325193
closed
ggs ahribro
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>>543331464
I don't know if they're huge, in theory they are supposed to be small, but does it even matter when he has that movement speed and general mobility?
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it's so fvcking kino...
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>>543325823
jinx looks very sexo in this image here
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>>543333330
Ggs friend
If people are around emerald drop by the lobby some time, I need a fairer match up lol
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>>543334487
i can come by next time maybe
bad timing for me tonight
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>>543329989
popularity =/= unbeatable
If theres a way to beat them the only excuse you have is being too bad to know it
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>>543336242
That is specifically a challenger rank popularity list which does imply more than just the popularity is in effect
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>>543319848
I still love playing Teemo but I do like having actually decent normals and fullscreen projectiles
And running behind a rocket to get a 50/50 crossup with Vi is more satisfying than kinda just sitting fullscreen the whole game even if it is very teemo
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i can't wait for yasuo/ekko to get fucking obliterated
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downplaying yasekko is bait
just ignore
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>>543325823
>version 1.0...
>i am...forgotten...
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>>543275345
>despite making up 50% of the challenger teams and 100% of the bitching on 4channel yasekko makes up only 10% of the top 8 placings
hmmm
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>>543337018
first time?
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>>543306497
>online FGC are just smitten by the fact that characters are functionally free.
I guess, I just think they're also smitten by the idea that a big company is coming in and will give them all free esport money, ignoring that Riot's esport side has steadily gotten less attention.
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>>543338657
i really don't think the average fighting game fan thinks they're going to win prize money in any given game they play man. that's like a percent of a percent
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>>543338781
The thing is most people I see being really smitten by riot aren't the average players it's the pros, youtubers and commentators people who think they would directly benefit from Riot esports, the average player seems to be getting annoyed at the back dashing more than anything else
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>trying to make Illaoi/Jinx work
>doing alright, winning 40/60 most of the time
>watching Yasuo/Ekko/Ahri/Teemo get away with murder
They really need to add more characters faster, man
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why can yasuo cancel his specials into other specials on block
bottom text
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>handshake tags behind you
how do you respond without sounding mad
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>>543341010
is there, legit, any counterplay that works against this?
maybe if you just roundstart spam backdash to get your back to the wall so he can't get behind you? i know he can steal the corner, but can he steal it midscreen?
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>>543341210
Actually it was my tag
But idk just react to the flash bro
it's 15 frames long or something that's light work
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>>543341546
how many times can vi go back and forth thru the beam during its duration? plus she can do high/low multiple times during it, lol
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Confused by the enemy Zoner he knows naught what to do when he is the one who must approach
He jumps and throws his timewinder at nothing in desperation...
A tragic end
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>>543341875
>sits there and watches you block the ahri super assist, doesn't even try an overhead
>literally stands there until you recover from blocking it and gets hit with 2l
>throws timewinder with clap clap bang 1 inch away from him
what da fuk...
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>>543341704
Actually crossing up doesnt work with Jinx super because it's a true blockstring
All she can do is high/low you and she's only okay at it
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>>543298953
>douoble down clips you twice ur character is dead
>2xAssist down clips you twice ur character is dead
>side kick 2xAssist down clips you twice ur character is dead
>freestyle 2xAssist down clips you twice ur character is dead
>sidekick 2xAssist down clips you twice ur character is dead
Im not sure what you are trying to get at anon. Your point has no point.
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>>543342479
real? that's crazy
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>>543342880
Ye
Thats why Teemo super is so crazy
his last dart has a delay and you can miss them on purpose too so not only can you get crossed up but also you cant just mash parry
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>>543343000
WW's barrage super also has a delay before the last hit
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>league of legends fighting game
>no sovl group fanart
can it really be called league of legends
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>>543344660
it's all arcane slop nobody who actually likes league wants to draw that shit
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>>543345101
arcane is unironically better than lolslop
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bad bait
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>>543328889
The blitz guy only lost to the top two teemo players in the tourney running ahri blitz freestyle, and was the guy that sent Hikari to losers too
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>hop on 2xko they said
>it'll be fun they said
>get into ranked lobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2nTbqbtGug
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>>543344660
They censored Jinx and Caitlyn though
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reminder: if the other player asks to go to champ select after you beat them, just end the set. they're about to pick the most cancerous shit imaginable
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>>543352428
I fuck around with other characters alot. But its impossible to learn something new when your oponent try hards. I am forced to go my main team constantly after a loss or two.
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>>543354631
that's fine if you want to do it but i'm absolutely going to cut sets from now on, last time i let someone do it they changed to ahri/teemo and i was like "cool dude"
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>>543354728
Ah, a ChrisG wanabe. That dude downplays Ahria nd Teemo like a mother fucker. Havent run into a comp like that, but i can imagine how lame the match was.
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>>543354884
it's one of those comps that makes me go "man i wish darius/blitz was better at dealing with zoning" but then i remember that i end up spending 99% of my time playing defensively and waiting for blitz assist so i can't bitch TOO much... but man, teemo's mushrooms shut that down completely
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>>543355281
Im trying to run warwick/braum. But braum gets zoned out so bad i am forced to go Teemo/Braum just to fight the run away bullshit. But im at a point i want to drop Teemo, but i just cant learn anything new, because i get 2 tapped and fucked so incredibly bad every time i try.
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>>543355872
there'll always be some pretty big growing pains when you try learning a new character, even if you get pretty good at combos actually playing them in neutral can be rough
still, it's a marathon, not a sprint. plenty of time to grow your skills and learn
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>>543325505
actually, this is tech, sweaty
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>>543109513
that combo is like 30 more damage than a much easier one unless youre not spending meter. I just spent like an hour and can do it nearly every time. The j2.S2 timing is dependent on how far away they are when you launch them, just delay it as long as you can. Keep doing it as late as you can and then just work backwards until you get the timing right.

The easier combo is just launcher into M H 2H and then j2.S2 j.S2 jump and then M H 2H S1 Super1. The only benefit of the combo youre trying to do is more damage without meter and only 30 more with meter. Another benefit of the harder combo youre doing is that youre relaunching them an extra time which means you can squeeze in more damage and get a TagLauncher combo.
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>>543366610
ignore the second 2H in the "easier" combo I posted.
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Realizing the games I find the most fun, with the most "sauce" are about having a plethora of options.

MKX was the first game to bring in variations, several viable ways to play the game. That started off the kino for me.
DBFZ had a game based around synergy and team comps, and 3 assists per character. You can't get more kino than that.
This game has similar sauce with its options and ways to play, i'm currently considering leaving double down for 2X and working on better oki. But I could go Freestyle and that fuse in itself is all mix.

Streetfighter never clicked because it's boring with no sauce and no variety
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>>543354728
>last time I did it they made me cry like a big baby!
Wah! Wah! Wah!
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>>543325505
tf does he mean that 5S1 is -3? I can't replicate that
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>>543325823
Weird tournament where two top players were DQ'd in losers bracket
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>>543329228
tell their bitch ass
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>>543349436
ok this blitz guy might be sick with it
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>>543325823
what was the blitzcrank's 2nd char?
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>>543372669
A genuine cancer that continually goes under the radar because some are slightly better despite having better neutral
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https://twitter.com/Ninjaelephant31/status/1979916214194315538
I'm just gonna assume the lead game designer wants to fuck Ekko and Yasuno at this point
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>>543325505
Love to see it but I've run out of patience to wait. I've fully dropped the game so the good news is no more complaining from me ITT but the bad news is you guys have to deal with this bad game design. Enjoy!
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>>543372881
that didn't answer my question
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>>543370426
charge timing and distance are the two variables
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>>543372913
>exactly lethal on teemo with four bars of meter
twitter combo
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>>543372913
Eh you could probably get the same damage with Yas/Darius freestyle
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>>543369786
I get that
For me, I think it's just having a lot of buttons to press at any given moment.
This game and other active tag games make my neurons just fire, I need to be able to call a fullscreen hitbox horizontally or vertically whenever I want, and to swap with it while channelling a fullscreen blast on my first guy.

Any game where my choices boil down to like fireball or faster fireball or antiair are just simply not as cool
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I keep forgetting combos and they melt into one messy bs combo that usually makes them flip out towards the last 3 hits due to hitscun scaling making my successful hits a casino for myself when to stop. 2000 MR in Sf6 btw
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>>543375802
Now unironic Platinum 1 after 100 matches
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Formerly Gold 1 Darius here. I reached Gold 3 friday, and I think I could probably hit Plat 3 without using training mode.

I’m a bit unsure about how to improve, though. Should I keep playing with auto combo and focus on winning through better neutral, or should I start practicing combos to make winning easier? The thing is, I believe having strong neutral is the most important part of being a good player. If I rely on better combos to kill faster, I’ll spend less time refining my neutral, which might make it harder to reach higher ranks in the long run.
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>>543377308
>already has mind made up
>asks anyway
It's a video game bro spend your free time how you think you should.
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I would learn a better combo than auto combo just for fun
Doesnt it get boring pressing A over and over
Even just a beginner bnb is like 5 minutes of work at that and it's just more fun to execute
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>>543379180
oop meant for >>543377308
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>>543378928
Bro, I’m Gold. I don’t know shit about the game
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>>543379180
My satisfaction comes from guessing my opponent’s actions correctly and winning in neutral, in 50/50s, and eventually “download” my opponent. Winning the match is just a means to reach better players so I can do the same thing to them
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>>543379856
ok but if youve never learned a combo how do you know you wont enjoy it?
Once you know a little bit of combo structure puzzling out how to convert off of weird links is genuinely pretty satisfying and soul soothing imho
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>>543377308
if you can kill in two-touches using round start resources,
then you have all the combos you need to play at a gm level
everything else is fluff
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Well. I made it to diamon 1 and realise that I hate playing on Ahri. She's hella good but I dont like how she's feels. And only other character with whom I like press buttons is Blitz. The problem is that I know what suffering awaits me if I try to play Darius + Blitz. It's possible but it will be not fun in current meta.
How coocked I am if I pray gods for good balance patch for big bodies?
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Anyone got that Blitz/Ahri's games?
Cant find them on youtube but maybe its because it was french
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>>543381845
How coocked I am if I pray gods for good balance patch for big bodies?
you aren't, because they will be buffed and teemo will be nerfed

>I know what suffering awaits me if I try to play Darius + Blitz
this team isn't bad at all, desu
if they ever get touched by any of your assists, you just won neutral and you're in
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>>543381078
Pulse combo will do just play. 1 win +15-20 1 loss -3. 20% winrate and you're gm after 2 weeks
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maybe the doomsissy was on to something...
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>>543382968
i mean, to actually compete at that level, going 50:50
not just to reach it, because the rank system is shit

i'm just saying this is a 2-touch game
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PATCHNOTES

https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/news/game-updates/2xko-patch-notes-1-0-1-2-oct-21-2025/
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>>543284454
>he doesnt know
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>>543384057
kek the ww combo anon mentioned that didn't work on yasuo now works
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>>543384057
>Yasuo’s Turbulent Wind (mid-air or standing ) now applies damage scaling correctly, lowering his damage output for his common combos and routes.

Nothing to see here boys. Ekko and yasuo are still busted
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>>543384057
Thats fucking nothing!
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>>543375253
You're 1/3 people who post webms here along with me, when are we gonna lobby up
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>>543384057
>Warwick no longer flies away after Handshake Tagging out of Spinning Slicer (mid-air ) in Freestyle Fuse. Goodbye, updog.
Kek, does the anon still have that webm of ww flying off in training mode
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>>543384057
>Vi given ginormous ass
Woah Riot
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>>543384057
more a hotfix than a patch desu.
If the only real balance change they're doing is that little bit for yasuo, I'd rather have it all be system and QOL fixes and leave the balancing for a bigger patch
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>>543387696
how can it even get bigger
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>>543377308
Better combos will help you climb faster since you get more of a reward for winning neutral and opening people up, but if you feel like just working on neutral it's fine to just spam games and autocombo, that was literally the tyler1 approach
Learning blockstrings and ways to open people up is another way to get more wins other than pure neutral
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>>543381879
Don't remember when the blitz played I didn't watch all of it
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2596106527?tt_content=vod&tt_medium=mobile_web_share
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>load into ranked lobby
>on the big screen a warwick just went afk after he got owned by braum
kek
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>>543369786
>Streetfighter never clicked because it's boring with no sauce and no variety
Yet, you can choose about 15 colors to Sakura's panties.
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>>543377308
>The thing is, I believe having strong neutral is the most important part of being a good player.
Then this isn't the game for you, case closed.
Also you've already asked this and I gave you a good answer.
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why is this general so slow
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>>543395226
dead game
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okok later
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>>543184765
In theory this game is supposed to have giga nigga netcode and the best infrastructure
in reality the game is geolocked
I just don't know
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game saved
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>>543398762
Please I hope this works
I'm worried it won't fix everything since it says nothing about training mode memory leak though
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>>543396775
chills
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Now what
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Teemo going invisible is pretty nasty, luckily most teemos zone so I don't have to deal with this anytime soon
https://www.twitch.tv/reversalgg/clip/StrongCrispyCaterpillarGrammarKing-kIYARkQITZ2oSjri
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>>543407314
>illaoi at 3rd
outdated
she's shit tier nowadays unc
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>Jinx projectile spammers
Words cannot express my rage
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>>543407314
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which one of you guys is this
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>>543408547
im sorry
your rage brings me my joy
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>>543408547
just do this bro >>543396775
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>>543408547
>projectile spammers
YOU GON' LEARN TODAY
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>>543395226
I felt like the more I got know about the game the less excited I got for it and now that it officially launched it seems like none of that pre-release hyped carried over.
The roster is awful and the game itself isn't anything special.
Only thing I hope for is that they magically start shitting out characters but the chances of that are practically zero.
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>>543407321
lmao
Teemo is actually so cool man
The fact he has like 20 different combos for ranges and badgefarming and inivs is so fucked
Why is this guy the hardest character on the roster for no reason
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>>543407314
>>543409485
>braum is getting played more
Please stop this, I don't want to have to fight that champ more
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>>543412013
im a yordlefucker too but idk how good Trist and Poppy and Vexo will look in this game
Teemo's proportions are so midget-esque I feel like they're all going to look too frumpy
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>>543409485
>No mention of what event this is
Who made this garbage
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>>543410718
Idk man, it felt like she had monkey and traps all at once on screen, eventually she started jumping to throw rockets to counter my Ahri dashes
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>>543381845
>The problem is that I know what suffering awaits me if I try to play Darius + Blitz. It's possible but it will be not fun in current meta.
i mean i main that shit and im gm with 200ish rp (challenger is 520 or so)
yeah there are some matchups that're pure cancer but it's 100% doable
neither character will ever get significant buffs jsyk so no sense praying for that
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Ekko doesn't benefit from super-tag like Yasuo does idky I've still been playing this archaic fuse.

Yasuo can do that stance slash multiple times in the middle of a super, and connect in the air easily. Ekko can't do any of that
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>>543416961
who cares about tournaments not even a month into the game's life (technically still not even fully released cus muh consoles)
people are just egofarming
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>>543414457
To be fair Teemo is a lot more potato-coded than those
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>>543414457
>yordlefuckers shocked to find out that the in-game characters do not look like the goonerfied fanart
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Darius has the most satisfying supers in the game.
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>>543422989
Lmao absolutely not
Headless is great but the other two suck ass animationwise, he practically spins at a stupid pace not even touching the opponent for his lv3
IMO WW is the most consistent
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>>543422989
the only one of his that doesn't look like shit is the one where he flips the enemy around, it's weighted nicely. his other level 1 is too fast and the level 3 is bad conceptually
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>>543423170
>it's weighted nicely.
Except the actual slam part somehow, the spin and most of the movement is good
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I'm an executionlet, give me an Ahri BnB that doesn't need timing/delays please
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>>543423153
I don't like his berserker barrage that much, but maybe that's just because I don't play enough WW to appreciate it the same way I appreciate Darius' options. I don't bother looking at the level 3s because IMO almost all of them are bad.

>>543423170
Headless feels good to do, it's simple but it's just a giant golfswing that does big damage and is easy to DHC into it. The spin is also good, though I wish the final slam felt a little better.
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>>543423524
you gotta learn
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>throw monkey in the wrong direction
>he goes off the screen and Ekko runs into the hitbox when he tries to get a blockstring going
This shit was so funny man
Guy had 0 idea how to play against Jinx I perfected him the first round and he bailed out of the rematch SO fast.
>>543417724
Jinx's zoning is genuinely really strong she can cover the entire screen and there's no gaps in the projectile wall if you call an assist to set a monkey.
You have to hit monkey out of the air with a disjoint and try to run forwards and parry a few rockets or an assist to get in, try not to jump too much unless you're certain she isn't looking to cover the air, if you airblock a rocket it sends you so far back its crazy
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Man I love this fucking game so much
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqvVTSKgqbY
Here's how a Riot Dev plays
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>>543422989
this is true i love all 3 of them
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Just a man with a gun and another gun and a monkey and a rocketpunch against the world
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>>543424224
are you ready to play yet faggot hurry up
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>>543427858
host a lobby bro
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>>543427923
kh2cqk4p
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>>543428868
Sorry this instead, I pressed back one time and it exited the lobby.

3390x81r
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>>543407314
so it's this skewed and it doesnt even accurately represent the number. lol
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>>543432737
what a retarded way of doing it
who even is this retard
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>>543432914
all of these "data" accounts are about maintaining agendas
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ded thred ded game
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>>543434643
im playing rn you wanna run a set or nah
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okay ill learn some blockstrings for vi
People gotta stop teching my grab and mashing my crossup I aint got no other tricks
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>>543438754
past basic shit like using lows/highs, you unironically just mash S2 and swap into an actually good character (usually yasuo) and mix them because they're stuck blocking. if you wanna be really fancy you can use S2 and super 2
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>>543429031
I'm assuming you guys are done, i was gonna drop by to spectate a little
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>>543439219
Yea I just did a quick FT5, although I think I lost the first 3 or 4 games then ran it all the way back.
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>>543439058
I wasnt using any lows or any highs tbqh
I'm mostly just using Vi to make my Jinx zoning more sick nasty so idk if swapping to her is going to be that strong
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>>543438754
Usually you cover your cross up with an assist im pretty sure, you can jab vi out of it otherwise most of the time
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yasuo's going to be gutted soon
how are we coping?
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>>543443123
>yasuo's going to be gutted soon
you poor thing
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Did Yasuo, or Zed for that matter EVER even have a period where they were even just relatively bad
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>>543444218
I remember zed being gutted for a long time purely because they said low elo didn't like getting blown up by zed constantly
I know Yasuo was their pet champ because he had a legion of otps
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>>543442527
Yeah I know
I got so used to using it after handshake tagging a rocket so my musclememory is just to mash that shit now
I cleaned it up a bit now though I realized what the issue was
I was thinking Vi's overhead was down-forwards heavy like Jinxes but for some reason it's only forward heavy
Why the fuck did they do it like that just make it one input and stick to it man
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>>543424961
holy fuck kekko is never being nerfed if the devs in charge play like this much of a faggot
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Also its actually so funny how emerald Ekkos all spam jumpback throw timewinder like crazy people
These guys are complete morons they'll whip that shit out even when I'm playing Jinx at fullscreen or I'm right in front of them on Vi.

Thank god my characters just let me own that freak behaviour
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>>543446247
>Also its actually so funny how emerald Ekkos all spam jumpback throw timewinder like crazy people
i regret to inform you that this does not end at emerald lol
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Tired of Yasuo downplay, he can convert anywhere of a stray hit into aerial shit, DD supertag gives him backshots of doom and his midscreen mix is best in class.
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>>543446379
That's good for me then actually
Should be free LP
Like look at this dude where is blud going
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>>543443123
>Gook plastic doll worshipping crackoid is not only deranged but delusional
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Hikari vs. Noon set starting on his channel
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>>543446605
>pic
ah hell nah bro paid 100 usd to throw that shiiii :skull: :wilted_rose:
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>>543447096
the rest of kda better get in soon
i need the goonerified fanart fast
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>fighting some dude playing ekko/darius
>take the first 3 games, then he takes 2
>start winning game 6
>got him dead to rights this is it
>he fucking plugs even though the set has been crazy close every single game
it's always such a surprise when you're thinking "haha yay! this game is so fun! i'm really playing around what this guy's doing and he's got some good stuff too i need to steal that route he just did" and then you realize the guy on the other end is so fucking mad that he's about to spit up blood
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shame this guy dropped his fullscreen combo

>>543449136
iktf
i'm always just marveling at other people's tech
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I love that we collectively call "break" "burst" instead, it's just such a better term
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>>543449136
kek
Same thing happened to me the other day except it wasn't so close, was twerking on a guy playing Teemo/WW while playing Teemo/WW, got to the final hit of the first match and he just bailed.
Something about cooking a guy on his character really hits them in the ego.
When a man can't complain about tier lists or counterpicks what else can he do
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>>543395226
Fighting game without a console scene is a discord fighter.
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>>543449136
funny enough, match history shows the match as a win for me, and the replay actually hangs too lol

>>543449827
>webm
that's sick
honestly there are times when i'm like "man fuck this guy fuck this game fuck fuck fuck" but i haven't alt f4'd yet... maybe when cait and riven drop i'll end up doing it kek

>>543450376
losing the mirror match is such a brutal feeling in any game desu, it's always been the biggest painful feeling in any game to me
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>>543450584
Yeah riot made a big deal about that when they announced the game
When someone rage quits you still get the LP for it because it's based in their servers
Pretty cool of them
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>>543450116
i'm teaching this friend that mains ekko, and there's two moves he has that ekko vocalizes as:
'break', for the blanka ball
'take a break', for the 3-hit move

and yeah, we just never refer to breaks as 'break'
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>>543450116
i mean, it's literally just the guilty gear burst mechanic. it's like calling any option that works like shoryuken a dp
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what controller do you guys use
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>>543451319
i play on stick (hori rap4)
ol reliable since sf5
i hear this game feels best on pad but a lot of my enjoyment of fgs stems from playing with the arcade stick
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>>543451319
some 20 dollar chinese nintendo pro controller knockoff 8bido or something
the stick is a bit too sensitive though I keep jumping by accident
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>>543451319
a full-sized keyboard
it's probably the best input device
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I feel like Yasuo is kind of a flavour miss in one regard
He has a couple of tornado moves but none of them look like the ones he has in league
He should really have a tornado that moves across the screen with a big vertical but smaller horizontal to represent his Q3. Maybe instead of the corny windwall stab
And his S1 super being a summoned tornado is cool but I feel like should've done his beyblade thing and spun in place for it to come out, even if it's dorky his E-Q3 feels kinda absent.
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>>543451319
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CSW9BMV4
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>>543452529
give yasuo rashid level 2
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>>543452529
>>543452909
don't you fuckers speak this shit into existence. you think riot isn't drooling at the thought of making yasuo's tornado move forward. delete these posts right fucking now
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>>543453114
I know he doesn't need it but like the one thing that I think of when I think Yasuo has always been him just chucking a tornado at you and then teleporting to it
Even if most of the time he does dash around through minions and turtle like a pussy behind windwall the big slow telegraphed tornado snipe is kinda hype i cant lie.
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>>543453331
>pic
another thing. how have these utter morons not licensed out a musou game yet. are they stupid? if they're worried about canon they could just make it an au.
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also someone make the new thread please
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my time
my time
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>>543454538
>>543454538



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