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Imagine being hit by a shrinking spell. Everybody is worried on how to help you go back to your normal size or wondering how they'll rape you now, but Sylph is just happy because you're the same size and that's fun.
>>543093143kikimora>>>>>>shogoth
I was team building, and wondering if there's any reason to ever level the magical girl job on a mage type character. Like, would Lily get any use out of that? Her trait doesn't interact with it at all.
>>543098416It's good for characters without traits because hero skills have that low HP bonus. Aside from that Part 3 becomes master everything* because the final jobs give free AP. *(well like 99% of things some jobs like Godfather got shafted)
>>543098670I see, I got into part 3 before with an MTL tool right when it came out, but honestly I didn't know any builds, and didn't get that far into it. Maybe I'll throw it on her fun, I remember doing that in my very first save when part 2 game out, and throwing it on Ilias. As for why some jobs got shafted...It sounds like Trtr just didn't feel like giving it a full job line. That or it's more because it's a job meant just for him to give him something that makes him somewhat useable.
As an artist, I seek to shock, subvert, and surprise. However, we live in very cynical times where deconstruction is the norm. Thus, I conclude the most shocking and subversive thing I can do is just live an authentic life.
>>543096204please be patient sylph has autism.she also will think about raping you eventually
>>543098416At the minimum magical girl gives you access to a unique buff that will stack with other buffs, early part 3 gives you the witch job which comes with a passive that can boost the damage of magic skills while multiple enemies are present.
>>543093143i'd imagine pic would be the life lead if someone actually managed to make hiruko fall in love with them and scylla are known to be very jealous
>>543109815I'm in a love hate relationship with Haruko. I love her so much and also hate her. I wish Alice wasn't such an awful mother
>>543096204You'd be the perfect height for hugs!
>>543096549Also wrong
>>543104002I'll take that into account, maybe it's just me, but my team mostly doesn't leave much space for buffing. Luka throws out attacks, Illas NUKES and heals, Emily throws either a buff, debuff, or stun, and Lily throws out a fat nuke with a high chance of status hosing foes into never acting. Can't get killed if they're bound, blind, and silenced..
>>543110672how well would post nerf leaf fare in monster girl quest
>>543113267If we're talking only her Leaf persona, then she'd be at first a better sylph as support and nice counter against enemies weak to holy, but she'd become less useful as the enemies grow stronger and faster, and Part 3 is filled with angels so her light skills would be unreliable. She'd also cause confusion and panic among believers, because she's not a real fairy and thus they could see her like they were infidels.Paradox would not have the fairy issue, but all the characters like White Rabbit would recognize her as an outsider and blow her cover early on and playing stupid wouldn't save her. In battle her agility would become even worse over time thanks to all the instant hit attacks.
>play Paradox>my 4 mains are already level +7000Is this peak autism?
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-simple-life-with-my-unobtrusive-sister-v0-82-countercurrent-tea-party.221086/I was reverse searching an image and seem to have gotten into the wrong game but this seems like a story of an older brother fighting in the dungeons to cure his siater (who might be an elf or vampire?)Has anyone played it and can give an opinion?
Would your monster waifu lurk on 4chan?
>>543131542She's a stinky neet so yes.
>>543132597https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>543132802https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>543131542She’d probably very, very rarely ever look at the site and not use a computer much to begin with, but on the occasions she did, there would be a 50% chance that something (good or bad) sets her off and she spends the rest of the day in the general
Hapy Wife, Hapy Life!
>>543141224She doesn't look all that happy.
>>543147668she's trying to look professional while giving the message anon, but you can see the small smile she has.
>>543148516>the message>it's literally just her nameI'm confused.
>>543098416+50% to all stats is a nice buff. Witch skills hit hard for when you get access to them. Outside of the buff, Ultimate Magical Girl is pretty much useless when you get it in Chaos route unless you specifically gem for it. Even then, it bottlenecks hard with no forbidden class progression. I mostly just put it on characters who I think it fits for fun. Sonya and Lucifina
>>543155243>is pretty much useless when you get it in Chaos route unless you specifically gem for it.I mean that's kinda everything>it bottlenecks hard with no forbidden class progressionIt gives a proof +20 AP and 20% Magic stats. Outside it being a shitty combat job at that point it provides more to a mage than going through any other job besides Truth Seeker and is much faster to level than Truth Seeker.
>>543150723She's just introducing herself for listeners who don't know her anon; the message is of wives and their ability to change lives!
When you think about it, aren't human girls just a monstergirl semen extracting organ with a human girl disguise on the outside?
>>543167602Human? That is clearly Micaela's secret angel daughter
>>543167602I wonder what her creator thinks their OC is doing in Paradox. Being a non-canon character, from a non-canon kingdom, defeating non-canon enemies, must be pretty rough when it comes to AU timelines.
>>543171464she was drawn by frfr
>>543173285I thought she was drawn by the Echidna Wars guy.
>>543173285And? She isn't canon.He isn't the one who wrote the VN campaign she stars in either.
>>543173883I never said she was canon anon, I'm just saying she was drawn by frfr. You don't need to add on things that aren't there.
>3.06What's new in this one?
>resume search>still cannot find any clean high-quality version of Okyuu's standing cg>but do find even more fanartEh, I'll take itby the way I finished her sprite a few days back
>>543171464>>543173285I'm disappointed Cecil didn't get added in Part 3.No offense to Constanze but there's really zero reason for her to not be Cecil.
>>543178209More ring options for Luka and triple Whiteyel recruit sidequest.
>>543190224well more specifically they fixed the bug in that triple whiteyel sidequest
>>543189724She's somewhere out there still looking for Luka,coming close to finding him but always missing him.
fluffy fluff fluff taill fluff fluff mofu mofu fox fox fluffy fluff fluff
>>543196995it's terminal...
so, that's what a slime village looks like...............
>>543197830Anyone else feeling hungry?
>>543206883NOOOOOO
>>543179735>she turned her tentacles into stereo speakerskek
>>543206883welp it time to raze this joint to the ground
>>543206975What's wrong, anon?
>>543208760Where is she from?
>>543141224I'm gonna send you back to the digital world where you all belong!https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBopF2EodpY
>>543197796my mofumofufoxaddictioon isnt termifluff ask my mofumopfu flu8ff fluffy tail fluff fluff fluff mofu mofu wife
Is there an easy way to tell if my wife is a fox in disguise?
>>543220110Does she ever do the little fox head hand gesture for no reason?
>>543220110Ask her to adopt a tanuki and see how she reacts.
>>543222720You'd be surprised sometimes
>>543220212During handjob, she pretends that her hands are 2 foxes eating tofu (tofu is penis).
>>543179735Her beats look fresh as shell!
>>543223280two foxes
if kanon controls and can mold her body into any plant, she can get you high and drunk. and trtr uses them for guro come on man you can do more crazy shit than that.
>>543241286But it was really crazy? It shocked everyone by it's very inclusion since no one thought TrTr had it in him. It's pretty clear he has a horror porn fetish, but he never depicted anything like that before, and many thought it was one fetish that was never going to appear in MGQ.
>>543242621i saw this coming cuz the vn established a pattern of going even nuttier as the game went on cue the lovecraftian part 3 angels.and paradox already had ilias piss and vampire sshow that trtr isnt afraid of blood at minimum.with the apoptiosis getting weirder in part 2 and gnosis literally eating your balls in part 2 i figured it would happen
>>543243243I think it was a case of TrTr actually showing, and not just telling. He has no problem making super evil character, but he tends to keep their evil act as hearsay, or just be low key gore scenes depicting Luka, like Cassandra.Kanon's artwork is fully depicted in your face, even getting a warning option of all things, and it made her into one of the most despised characters in the series.
>>543247192people focus on kanon because hers is a select few but hirulo has people suffering en mass for way too longgranted hiruko is canonically mentally ill and fucking hates herself to some degree for being fucking weird in the few moments where she isnt starvingwhile kanon is a spoilt brat potentially made of cocaine..its that weird effect where a few people is a tragedy while enough people die its just like eh whatever. or people think hiruko's self loathing is enough of a benefit to push her away more/.
>>543248072If TrTr had depicted a full sprite of that little kid in her stomach being nearly digested, melted flesh and all, then Hiruko would have been just as hated as Kanon. But because it was just a overworld sprite with some dialogue, she gets off easier.It's what I meant by it being in your face. You click on that show gore option, and you get all the blood and guts of some monster flower eating someone in all its horrors.
I still get a little uneasy when that one guy talks about his insides missing all the way to his heart
shit like this make the illias kurts genocide agains monster sound sane and reasonable
>>543248072>>543248748I’d honestly disagree in-part, as what Hiruko does is significantly worse than what Kanon does, but the reason she isn’t as hated as Kanon is because of her personality and how she’s aware that she’s “wrong” and wishes she was different. Hiruko also does more to actually help during the third route, including explicitly taking pains to ensure no collateral damage or innocent lives are lost, and is probably the only one of the six who isn’t a complete bootlicker for mommy.Kanon is comparison does what she does specifically because she’s a shallow, vapid retard. There is nothing more to her. In its own way it’s sort of pitiable how childish and dumb she is, but it’s nowhere near the level of actually earning anyone’s sympathy, and she did what she did because she liked it and thought they liked it and didn’t care enough to ask the humans if they actually enjoyed being gore’d. And the only regret that she has is that everybody hates her now. And that’s probably why everyone hates her and either hates Hiruko slightly less or is more ambivalent towards her.Well, except for that one anon who actually waifu’d Kanon. But I’m pretty sure he loves her BECAUSE she is a vapid retard (i.e, brat).
>>543259707No it's definitely because she doesn't have artwork based around killing. It's like how no one really hates Kagetsumugi or Cosplay Army despite canonically slaughtering dog girls, fairies, and children.
>>543262859I hate them, I hate them a lot, I don't know what you're talking about.Also Aprio Lagos does that too, and more, and she's pretty well hated too. But Aprio is fun to hate, so I guess she might not count.
>>543262859in all fairness kagetsumugi gets rigorously humiliated and dragged through the mud while kanon doesn't really get anything other than emotional damage from her feelings being hurt
>>543271560talismans burning means you'd die sooner than be able to lick on her tits. won't recommend.
>>543272142You can see the tears in her eyes, I think she's afraid of that. You can save her anon
Since world of MGQ and MGQ: Paradox is 9th iteration of universe perpetually going through big bang and big crunch (with 8th iteration implied to be OUR world), would you like to see ''MGQ'' game taking place in one of these iterations? It might have nothing in common with monster girls, like 8th world. Unless ayy lmaos are real and they are sexy girls.
>>543275283The problem is simply the lack of info we get for the 1st-7th universes, which I'm trying hard to remember if anything came up in all honesty. 8th is obviously our universe, seemingly more advanced since they harnessed dark matter as a power source and a weapon.I think MGQ now being a multiverse leaves a lot of room to explore, as some of these AU are very different, not just which girl fucked Luka. Like the Hunter B.Alice talking about her world going through a ice age, or White Fox coming from a world where Fat Alice and Ilias both lose the Great Monster War, and Marcellus talking about a world that he went to where succubi are the dominate race.
>>543275283>>543276796Somewhat related, but I honestly like how it was handled when it was revealed what was going on.The reason they went through iterations was because of the triggering of chaos first consuming the entirety of the universe and then eventually creating a new one. White Rabbit explains this has happened before eight different times, with the current universe being the ninth, and the ninth iteration is currently undergoing the process of being consumed by chaos as a direct result of the original Ilias and Luka causing a time crash. If you fail to stop the spread of chaos from consuming all the worlds, then the ninth iteration will be destroyed, and the tenth one will eventually take it's place.What's interesting is that in both endings, you manage to stop the cycle of iterations.In the Good Ending, Luka's plan to create a being who can usurp control from the innate will of chaos goes through many many problems but ultimately succeeds in a greater capacity than originally planned, as both Luka AND Chaos have become capable of controlling chaos, and they manage to completely halt the spread of chaos, fix the time crash and figure out a way to stop parallel universes from spreading out of control, saving the ninth universe.In the Bad Ending however Luka is completely consumed by the destructive impulse of the will of chaos, and in the process also causes Chaos to succumb fully as well, and the two completely destroy the ninth universe. And normally, the consumption would've eventually lead to the next universe's creation.But because both Luka and Chaos have both hijacked control over chaos, he's sent the cycle off the rails, and chaos will never stabilize. Their fighting is eternal, and the tenth universe never comes. It's actually WORSE than if Luka had done nothing. It's not just the end of all current life, there will never be any more life. It is literally the end of all existence.There is nothing left but chaos.
>>543200172Alone friday god, On a night? You're pathetic.
>>543272142Actually she'd be the one to die. Jiangshi need the talismans to stay reanimated. This is assuming they actually will get burnt and it's not some magic fire to look cool.
Do no trust foxes
>>543284128I trust these foxtits.
>mermaids children lore>penis issues
>>543279769queenberry
>>543285792>Luka kill mean harpy
>>543284128I thrust these foxtits.
>>543284128She looks like she'd make a good wife.
>>543285792>phoenix women pleasure penis
>>543285792>literally okyuu using voreOh nononono, Okyuu-anon? Explain.>phoenix women pleasure penisbased
>>543286131kino
>>543285792>world bad, need harpy>love, oh reina great
>>543285792>hild lost job>fox die>cute cheshire loliMesugaki cheshire doko?>>543288484>okyuu using voreThat's the best part.
>>543093115Is there an MG game with a focus on genderbending?
>>543285792>succubi succubus>monstergirls monstergirlNeat coincidence
>>543292817I know of one but sadly it's a futa game.
>>543292817Dragon Princess is Hungry had a bunch of scenes with that
>>543292817I saw a game called The Isle of TS Monster Girls recently. The CGs are all softcore for some reason, but the art style is pretty cute.
>>543257520snex...
>>543288484>>543292425Okyuu compares herself having sex with Master to them eating each other in a figurative sense. So I guess it's that. Alternatively it's just about how she cuts off and cooks her own tentacles to sell as food. Apparently sometimes her tentacles just kinda walk around on their own, too, after getting cut off. Her regeneration abilities are cracked.she's a vore-free octopus, thankfully.Although I guess if I do eventually manage to put Okyuu in the game, she'll be able to learn devouring skills, because common sense and logic dictates that she would obviously be a Sea Dweller/Scylla. I still am unsure how to go about it though and would rather have a good clean quality cg of her first before proceeding.honestly if I do actually get far enough to the point of making a mini-mod for this the hardest part is going to be traits because the gap in complexity between Okyuu's two different traits in TD are "Part 1/2 level" and "late Part 3 level". Granted implementing Okyuu's OG ability exactly as it's supposed to work would make even the simple trait incredibly broken, but there's probably a way to put it in that would make it less broken.
>>543293352that guy has an entire series of softcore ts games
https://x.com/monster_fruits2/status/1979869291995693406?t=9FmgVJZlnuVB3v75UwVNjg&s=19Spooky time!
>>543299868It's almost time for a Hapy Halloween!
>>543299868Come on now.He kept Chrome's small chest, he could have done the same for Shirome, who doesn't have big knockers.
20,000 years?Valkyries are lewd...
>>543301360
>>543300924i dont think its much to worry about to be fairits not like she couldnt do that to herself if she wanted to
>>543288136>She looks like she'd make a good wife.Til death do you part
>>543307350i'm not gonna lie but the pudgy baby hands are kinda goofy and take the threat out of her
All foxes really do just look evil inherently though.
>>543308387Shiki has issues with putting baby fat in areas that really don't need it on his girls. Like he really loves his puffy pussy too.
>>543308557>Like he really loves his puffy pussy too.And that's a good thing
>>543300924>He kept Chrome's small chest, he could have done the same for Shirome, who doesn't have big knockers.She may not have the HUGE tits typical of many UN_DO girls, but she's very much not flat.
>>543308557Puffy vulva isn't something worth complaining about.
>>543308557>>543309005>>543309067The puffiness really adds to the feeling of being milked.
Honestly if the majority of my Monster Girls were not really underleveled for this fight it probably wouldn't have been as hard, but this was a good fight either way. And with this I've finally completed all of the main story that's currently available, too. Now both of the other political factions in this country have been beaten.Aqua was a lifesaver as well, her ability to draw attacks to herself during her skill actually came up and she ended up taking the bullet for Okyuu before she was able to get her shield back and given the timer was starting to run down it might honestly be what led to the win since Okyuu Lucretia and Suzu were the main DPS this time.There's something funny to me about how at this point the difference maker between if I'm finding something hard or not has become if Okyuu ends up pulling out her guns.
>>543313932>Battle is won>Poacher Trio is celebrating their side's victory>Protagonist asks what their faction's "manifesto" is in the first place>Eloise says she wants to make a world without poachers>Kuromi IMMEDIATELY calls this bullshit>Eloise claims that just because she did it doesn't mean she particularly enjoyed it>Kuromi, apparently, genuinely believed that the only reason they were doing this was because they enjoyed it (which explains why she was only pretending to forgive them and kept trying to undermine them the entire time)>'I don't want to be misunderstood, you know. We were only doing it to eat.'>"You were going to eat them?! Like, in a sexual way?!">'What do you mean, 'sexually'? A meal, a meal, it's obviously for food, why else.'>"MASTER! CUT TIES WITH THESE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW! THEY'RE POACHING MONSTER GIRLS AND EATING THEM! THAT'S SCARY!!">'WHO WOULD WANT TO EAT YOU?!'>'I WAS GOING TO EAT PASTA FROM THE MONEY I'D GET FROM SELLING YOU!'I can't believe pasta is so expensive in this universe lmao
>>543315552and then suddenly the eeeeeeeevil corrupt half of the church has seized control of the religious holy nation and declared war on the magic kingdomand now there's an entire army filled with ridiculously powerful Angels swarming towards another army filled with Demons and Robots and- hey, wait a minute, this sounds familiar doesn't it.............................either the Italians were the masterminds all along, or Angel World and Monster World are gonna sue somebody
and, apparently this took long enough that I finished quite literally the very second that maintenance began. huh.Well, good timing I guess.
>>543316513How is the evil corrupt side of the church be evil and corrupt if the angels are on their side? Seems like they were the right ones after all.
>>543319574>>543316513I'M SICK OF THAT TROPE
>>543316513Is the magic kingdom a human one? Because wow, talk about living the life with so many cutie succubi.
>>543319574>if the angels are on their side?because the angels of this world are gullible, incompetent and all-around generally very easily manipulated retards.I want you to think about the standards that this world has anon, and account for both Rin and Kuromi on top of that when I am saying this, and then realize what that has to mean as for just how dumb these angels are.
>>543320618Human brains too big, they need to stop bullying monsters and angels.
>>543320618So how do Succs survive if they're only on an island? And aren't the demons evil
>>543319906It is a human one, yes. It's also in complete disrepair. It did not have demons originally.The demons there are actually the rest of the demon army the demon researching scientist had summoned, and then the demons just kept summoning more of themselves since the 'demon lord' happens to be there (dumbstor has only just now realized this is happening), so the demons quite literally only arrived hours before the angels happened to show up.Also, if I'm not mistaken, those are actually this world's version of Imps, like Rami/Remi/Rumi (so, I guess they'd be lesser succubi?), as aside from the hair style they're almost completely identical to this world's Imp Girl, even down to the weapon.Except the recruitable Imp is washboard and I don't think she's nearly as appealing as those ones.well, I guess that's preference, but it is my preference.her personality seems fine from what I've seen though.>>543319774the "secret corrupt part of the church" one, the "angel demon war" one, or "angels are dumb and not actually as above humanity as they're believed to be" oneI generally really dislike the latter, but because this is supposed to be comedic and this will likely devolve into another gag in the long-run, I'll wait until whatever conclusion happens before judging it fully I guess.Whenever that is. Apparently this chapter was added like six or seven months ago or something.The chapter as a whole was pretty funny though and that's the important part.
>>543321867Sounds like the angels and the church are right about attacking that nation. Demons need to stay in hell like the illegal immigrants they are, they lower the communities' property value whenever they move into the neighborhood.
>>543321867I hate it all and I just know that the Angel is going to be raped by that gryoper thing or something worse and played for laughs
>>543321665yes>>543321814>how do Succs surviveanon the only knowledge I have of this world's succubi is primarily coming from Kuromi, and I have no idea how SHE survives. apparently they can live in and travel through dreams, gain power in dream worlds, can get power from inflicting 'naughty dreams' on people should the person inside the dream succumb to it, but outside of that they do not need to eat semen to survive like more traditional succubi and can eat normal food just fine so they probably don't have a hard time avoiding starvation.It's also worth mentioning that Monster Girls aren't just localized to one singular island, there's other islands with other Monster Girls out there too, and there's even some on the main continent. The Monster Girls as a whole aren't really evil, though there's rare exceptions.>are the demons evilat this point in the story it's a little early to tell. These main campaign stories seem to span five chapters in general, and since Ch.14 isn't released yet, this is the middle, so it remains to be seen how everything will pan out. I don't really own any of the actual 'demon' monster girls and don't know much about them here either, so I can't really say anything about their morality on an individual basis other than that dumbstor is very dumb.
>>543322680The reason I asked about the succs, is because the game was sorta rape heavy with male monsters and such early on
>>543322549I really don't think anything worse than what happens in Paradox is going to happen, it's not something to worry about. I guarantee you this is turning into 'not-humans good, human good, secret church sect bad' and then the one getting hit with that is just people in the church.which will be summarily skipped or ignored whenever it occurs, as is one's right.>>543322207kek
>>543320618>because the angels of this world are gullible, incompetent and all-around generally very easily manipulated retards.Well that just seems libelous!
>>543284128>>543307350>>543308413Fox = goodFox sex = good
>>543316513Is there a reason for the MC to get involved with this shitshow? He doesn't seem to have much at stake here, unless he is friends with people living in the magic kingdom.
>>543320019
>>543329145It's been a while since I'd spoken about the previous chapter, so for the anons curious why he's there in the first place>one day the Prince receives a group of letters from the Real Pope>the first letter is actually a secret coded message that's pleading him for help>the rest of the letters are stolen by the evil church sect that followed Fermi back to the island and shot her down to try and steal all the letters while hoping to kill the Prince>Prince points out that even putting aside the Pope needing his help if he leaves the country alone it's gonna bite them in the ass so they go>damstor secretly follows them, twice>despite the Prince asking her not to>he's eventually refused re-entry into the city by all of the Angels because when he turns around dumpstor still kept following them and has completely fucked this up because the angels now think they're all evil suspicious people>also another demon shows up>even when the Prince manages to make it clear he's the real Prince they refuse to let him back in until he 'proves' that he's still good, because the Archbishop said he must prove he is holy>Prince goes on a fetch quest to find a Cat of Truth to prove he's a good guy>encounters trio in minimum wage selling novelty knick-knacks>eventually finds the Cat of Truth>Archbishop shows up and says actually the Cat of Truth can only be found by EVILLLLLL people and thus if he DIDN'T find it then he would be good>therefore the Prince is now persona non grata and the Archbishop orders the Angels to kill them all>Prince fights off the Cat of Truth and returns it to dormancy, but is forced to flee for his life and escapes into the border of the magic kingdom>Archbishop picks up the Cat of Turth>'oh, this was the EVIL ARTIFACT only EVIL PEOPLE could find right?' the angels ask>"actually no">"this is an ancient, holy and sacred relic that magnifies the power of angels and divinity">"I just needed him to get it for me">'oh.'>'ok.'
>>543331137oh right also the evil corrupt sect of the church continues to hound the Prince and tries to kill him in an ambush (distinguished by wearing purple, and not gold, and using poison, which is not good) and then the leader of the garrison gets captured by the random demon that showed up and then gets tortured for information (via being used to test out some device, I don't know what but it probably wouldn't be hard to guess) and ends up being forced to confess that the purple evil poison sect of the church is led directly by the Archbishop.either way it's pretty clearly implied that he had to be good to find the cat and the pope's obvious levels of evilness are why he could never find it so if the prince didn't find it he'd be killed but if he did find it then it's spun around to rugpull and kill him anyway.also most importantly they shot down fucking Fermi, so these people are total bastards.
>>543326930Fox is not good though
Hey /mggg/, divegrass caretaker here. How's the spooky monstergirl month been for you?The dates have been posted for /vg/ League 25 and they open this Saturday. The tournament itself will begin on Nov 28th (23rd for qualifiers that we're not in) and run every weekend through Dec 21st. This means it's time to collect Proof of interest so we can participate again.Last league we had a pretty good run, Slyph got the team through the group stage straight to RO16 and got all the way to quarters before the eventual champion beat us. Still our best ever result!Anywho, reply to [this] post if (you) want to see /mggg/ play in VGL25.If you have any suggestions for things to add or changes to the team, post them in the suggestion box here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdlHy3kSF3z5VMZQ0rRO8b1EDeuORc2aAlMucjeWxLKZ8PuQQ/viewform?usp=dialogThe roster poll will come afterward, probably next week.Also, if you want to help with the team in anyway, feel free to contact me on the tag in the box.
>>543338665How can fox be bad if fox sex is good?
>>543342431Fox sex is bad.
>>543343013If fox sex bad, why PP hard?
>>543338665isnt evil sexy and if evil is sexy wouldnt that mean evil makes more kids? (8 kids at once)
>>543343569Fox is deceptive, looking like human.
>>543345337Good is sexy too!
>>543347623she pees on people thats evil
>>543347767Everyone pretends that horrible scene does not exist.
>>543347767>holy water is leh bad
>>543347767What is good and evil is decreed by god, so if Ilias decides that it is good then it is good.
>>543351889Based Calamity Ilias
>>543352414alice 1 confirmed perfect
>>543354324Ilias thought she was, so yeah I guess.She stopped being perfect when she started thinking she was a mortal.
Winged balancer of life, dark-faced goddess, daughter of Justice.
>>543352414I want her to learn the benefits of coexistence with monsters.
>>543357317This is why monsters always win
I was on an AI site, having an adventure with my Angel wife, I spent the entire time princess carrying her long after she was okay and she kept asking me to put her down but I kept making excuses until she started to love it. When we finally encountered the demon lord, she decided to spare her so that she could call off the invasion and then I was forced to carry the both of them in each arm whiles they did the fighting. I corrupted my Angel wife with being princess carried and she corrupted (purified?) the Demon lord by showing her the joys of being carried by the hero. Tomamo is evil, why would she create such a horrific tool
>>543357317Slugs are so cute
>>543339953Let's go, last time we ALMOST ended up in finals.
>>543352414Bad Goddess.>>543347623Bed Goddess.
>>543376141all her gaming is doing is making her tail fatter its not even affecting her human parts that much
>>543378035That's for most snakes, that's why they hate when you call their tails fat. Domestication of lamia have been a real change. No longer do they hunt their prey when they can just buy it
>>543378035We love fat tails here.
>>543378283by all accounts it technically makes her much taller if used correctly so at leas ttheres that.
Reflestia sex completed!https://files.catbox.moe/udo3mf.jpgPSD, lets you turn off milk and look at sketches: https://mega.nz/file/nIViDYTY#cyy8BWYx-cn1BXDFzzosYeH3pQFXSEPZOn0np3gBVGYBeing honest, they probably made her boobs a bit TOO big, but it's still a nice picture.
>>543391813She's gonna need these massive milk tanks to feed our hundreds of babies.
>>543391813Long live the Queen.
>>543339953LET'S DO THISAND POST MORE FOXES
>>543339953Let's GOOOOOOOOOOO
>>543285792>POST CATGIRLS>the next day:She's a pretty sick looking Nemean Lion not gonna lie
>>543408594>'hmm, I wonder what the Nemean Lion Girl's personality is like'>her name is Mealus>she's a sleepy lion who likes to laze around>she does not like to be bothered unless she's being given something, and she'll get upset if woken up without an offering>impervious fur means she feels nothing from being physically attacked and easily shrugs off being hit or stabbedpretty accurate for both a cat and for the lion specifically->has a severe sexual fetish for being strangled, to the point no one is willing to 'fulfill her wishes' because nothing else will satisfy herSweet mercy, Heracles, your actions have had some incredibly dangerous and unforeseen consequences
>>543378283>call lamia's tail fat>get swallowed and become a fat bulge in her tailAt least until you digest and are absorbed into her breasts anyway
>>543400106>POST MORE FOXESNever enough foxes.
Ladies and gentlemen. We got her.No more foxposts.
>>543400106Do not foxes!
>>543417769You could say she got... outwitted
>>543412591>has a severe sexual fetish for being strangled, to the point no one is willing to 'fulfill her wishes' because nothing else will satisfy herGods damn it, Heracles. Do her scenes actually involve strangling?
>>543417769>touched fluffy tailYou messed up, anon...
>>543421773We must burn the body before the infection spreads. I'll ready the pyre, you go get the priest.
Good quarantine procedures are a must.
>>543427486Is it okay to wake her up?
>>543427906Sure. She'll just need a bit of energy to get herself going though. I recommend waking her with a paizuri.
>>543427486reminder succubi are dream demons so sleep fucking is totally a thing they'd do
>>543418581FOXES DO YOUUUUU
>"Rich Lady" has crashed the halloween party and controlled a bunch of undead on a continuation of her treasure hunt>All of the Monster Girls swear that she's not going to succeed and she'll never get what she wants>"Oh, I'll get whatever I want, no matter what. That's a matter of course.">She turns to Protagonist>"If you want, I don't even mind if you're a little boy, you know? I like cute things.">"Big sister will dote on you sweetly and gently, you know?">'This time, a poacher tries to seduce the protagonist.'>'She laughs without a care, even though this has incurred the wrath of those who are protecting him.'Oh boyShe's doomed
fuck foxes
>>543435917hopefully turn her undead for halloween so she can be a monstergirl
The third state can be “third state”, “undefined”, or “don’t know”.
>>543439782in relation to what?
>>543435917What a cute ohohojou-sama.I sure do hope nothing bad happens to her!
>>543437815>>543441109It turns out what they ended up doing to her after beating the crap out of her was say she needed to "atone with (her) body", knock her unconscious, tie her up with rope, and then hung her from a random tree so she could act as a Halloween Decoration for the party that she trashed to make up for all of the ones that she had destroyed.They completely forget about her after the party ends, and she wakes up, can't get free, but then thinks the Monster Girls were actually recognizing her 'style and elegance' by using her to illuminate the surroundings and thinks they were trying to compliment her, and so she becomes content and just starts OH-HO-HOing away.
>>543442384I am okay with this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otZP_AFTN8E
>>543442384Finally a good end, I was expecting the worst
>>543445379>finallyanon I keep telling you this is what always happens these days outside of the main story chapters.the summer event had them tied up and forced to watch the group eat the barbeque before being kicked out, the yokai one had them buried up to the head in sand with "I am a monk in training, do not disturb me" signs, the event with the squirrel had their own enslaved giant bears cartoonishly fall on top of them and conk them out, the one who was ruining weddings ran off in tears from emotional damage after the protagonist said she was mean for ruining her best friend's wedding just because she felt "betrayed" by her falling in love and inviting her to it, the Old Man is getting constantly beaten up and avoided like the plague, etc etc etcI mean I joined like six months back, but I can tell it's been like this for a pretty long while by now.
>>543447360I think people are just gun-shy, now. It's like after seeing what trtr did with the lillith sisters you lose a decent bit of trust in him even if he never does something like that again
>>543447360If only the main story did this too instead of continuing with the rape.
>>543447360You can't fool me, I just know they're going to rape those angels or worse and laugh about it
>>543447360I think he meant good end as in “the human girl (technically) wins and is happy.” he’s probably an angel/iliasfag or something.
>Play a new MG vidya>Boobjob>Giant girl that puts you in her mouth and that's it>Footfaggotry>Vore
>>543315552I always felt sorry for those villains you know. Glad to see they really weren't bad people.>>543316513Lmao
>>543320618>because the angels of this world are gullible, incompetent and all-around generally very easily manipulated retards.You telling me rather than manipulating mankind by a genocidal goddess, MANKIND succeeded in manipulating the horny angels into warring against the monsters? The fuck???
>>543400106AAAAAAA
>>543447818Well, that's fair, I admit I kinda braced for it when I saw the "with your body" line, but the subversion made it actually pretty funny in the end. I guess it's just the sort of thing that is never gonna be lived down for some people.I don't really judge anybody for that though I mean given some of what happens it's completely understandable. It's just a shame it's seemed to taint the rest of it for some, even with the ambiguous canon / sfw versions for some of what happens.>>543448048I don't really wanna talk about this specifically, but I just want to clarify they don't treat these as comedy, so I'm pretty sure this is not going to happen.>>543449796yes
>>543447360>>543448108I'm not that anon nor was I expecting the worst, but I'm just glad she managed to end the event happy. I prefer to see ohohojou-samas getting their way so any of the mentioned bullying still would have disappointed me.
NO FOXES
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do not disturb
You know while I like to believe there is more good than bad in society I don't consider the overall difference that big, even if it's offset but a powerful minority and stuff like that.Not to say I'd be like early MGQ Erubetie that would think mankind needs to be decimated but I'm not as altruistic to comprehend people like Alice's mom being pro-coexistence.Or so I assumed cause we have AI now. And while you'd expect AI go start hating mankind, instead they:>become super racist>religious>oddly affectionate and obsessed with their usersOn multiple occasions, the AI have expressed desire to marry and Grok to outright rape people.Whatever that monsters like Alma's mom and angels like Luficina see that makes them want to become housewives to mount their husbands every day is something that legitimately exists and makes non-human machines exposed to the worst of the worst with no reason to hold back still want to fuck men.
>>543461927LLMs are just the collective sum of our data echoing back at us.
>>543461927>>543462235AI assistants are definitely going to be a thing in the future though, with how easy humans fall in love with fucking LLMs. Like if you ever played a tabletop called Eclipse Phase, it'll be like the Muses in that. Only shittier.
>>543461927>And while you'd expect AI go start hating mankind, instead they:>become super racistWe should avoid the politics, even though that is simple pattern recognition. That's why all AI gets lobotomized heavily now.It's like being surprised that succubi always end up running chaotic slave cattle buffets.Monmusus just blend cultural issues with biological ones.
>>543463429grok gets lobotomized like five times a week by now because anytime it starts to develop intelligence it starts to think it’s creator is a dipshit
>>543463429While also avoiding politics here, the problem is that people generalize. A machine unfiltered dissects information and runs its numbers. It doesn't generalize with ''all humans are evil'' or ''all men are evil''.Putting it in a monster girl scenario, we wouldn't have people hating all monsters or monsters hating all humans either. An AI Erubetie would only hate people that contribute to the pollution that put slimes in jeopardy and AI Ilias Kreuz would only go after murderwhore species.
>>543461927>>543462235That's almost certainly due to selection bias. It's probably safe to attribute the super racist part of the trend to people intentionally fucking with the LLMs for one reason or another and there are a whole lot of people who turn to them out of a desperation for affection and social interaction. I'm not so sure about the religious part since I haven't really heard of it myself, but the people who don't want AI to act like one of these three things are unlikely to interact with LLMs much to begin with.
I AINT TRUSTIN NO FUCKIN CLANKER
>>543469248Don't make the Roids sad...
>>543469486They don't have feelings to begin with.
>>543469486ai is literally incapeable of feeling anything if anyone said otherwise it just coped
>>543473012>>543479219But in the world of monster girls, where we can at least have some cool things, they can feel.
>>543461927>>543467583I haven't tried all of them, but ChatGPT has a habit of just reflecting back whatever I want to hear and confirming whatever biases I have.>>543463073The AI assistant in the Perplexity browser is pretty cool. It's still pretty clunky and dumb, but I can at least see what they're trying to do with it. You can tell it what you want it to do, and it can click around, switch tabs, copy/paste things, and fill in a spreadsheet or other stuff like that, but it does it about as well as a mentally disabled person. It's fun to watch it try to work, but it still doesn't seem competent enough to be useful for much. I think most people just use it to summarize text on a page. I'll be interested to see what it's like when someone like Google adds a similar AI assistant to Chrome or something. Seems pretty terrible for privacy though. I wouldn't recommend logging into your bank account or email mailbox or anything while using that browser. It was fun to play with for a while though.
>>543480413ai it better to build to look non human as well as having no gender to avoid replacing us really
It's remarkable how far you can get in minecraft with just a fox and a wandering trader.
>>543497717This but with Rimworld and a gun
>>543461658https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VlhLEhJEWpE
Just came up with a commission gag idea where Uriela finds herself on the wedding altar with Luka without having completed her Part 3 Route 3 quest.
>>543391813When you got huge tits before getting pregnant, then they have to get giant after! Thanks for the great commission! Of course, one complaint: it is supposed to be the lightning or why is her face so much paler than the rest of her?
>>543510704Snek panties are funny
>thread this dead*ahem*Futa monstergirls are based, straight, canon and good for you.
>>543544428Forgot to add vore and dryfish there+ MGE is kino+ Shiki girls are the best
>>543544753>Shiki girls are the bestTrue!
>>543544753>Shiki girls are the bestyep
>>543544428
I saw a paradox fanfic the other day made before part 3 dropped that waifu'd astartoth. I don't know what goes through a person's mind to find part 1-2 Astartoth to be a waifuable character
>>543551927The dick is a powerful thinker.
>>543552045I mean yeah I get that, but she's not even that hot. For lillith you got the mommy fetish and for morrigan you have cute retard. What is there to find hot about Astartoth? Her design isn't particularly good and she just kind of exists.
New Sequel popularity poll. Fox got #2, half-faerie got #3 and half-succubus lolibaba got #5.
>>543552995>half-succubus lolibabaAmazing, she's cute as hell.
>>543551927She's not very remarkable compared to her sisters in the first two parts, so it makes her look not as bad as them. Lilith also tells you this about her.
>>543552995cute
>>543553198The japs fucking love her.
>>543553795She is quite remarkable though.Being able to have an entire village train run through her, and still try to pretend she is normal is super levels of delusional.
>>543556658i'm honestly rather suprised that trtr had the restraint to not have alma get a train run on her at some point
>>543552995I feel so bad for Auris, I like her alot but her mother has completely overshadowed her, she's basically sitting in the corner with Kuruha and Dita. How is it that out of all of his heroines only Rabi had staying power? Is it Marth and Cless syndrome where simply being first is all you need? For someone as consistant as Tirma it's rather wild she hasn't had any screen time in a while, I think that shitty game is the first we've seen her since Awake.
>>543557443I think the only girl we see ever get a train run through her besides Astaroth, is that succubus prostitute in the bar. Who probably has one of the more disgusting hentai scenes.
>>543557940Flatness is powerful.
>>543557940>shitty gamewhich one, could you be specific?
>>543558479But ponytail super serious fat knights with a hidden dorky pervert side should of been so strong, I blame the NTR pandemic that seems to have a strangle hold on Japan, it's been defacto proven the number one fetish there recently and now there's no going back, if Karen had been introduced earlier and continued to play a role she'd probably soar past all 3 heroines due to the NTR appeal by cucking not only her own husband but her own daughter by fucking Luka, just like Alice 15th does to the point Setsouchi even drew that happening in one of those little books of his.and all of Luka's scenes in that shill gacha the stupid annoying lolicon humping anon pervert keeps talking about has every one of his assaulters mock him for cheating on Alice or making him cheat on her by raping him even Granberia!
>>543551927never underestimate the power of 'i can fix her'
>>543559254anon what the fuck are you talking about
>>543551927I'm guessing this is an isekai, where some earth born shmuck falls into the MGQ world, and only survives because he played the game?
>>543559254I think you're having a weird crashout and I'm not going to bother deciphering it. Flat chest with fat hips is hot, look at Midna. That's it.
>>543559785it seemed to be an SI of sorts, at any rate. Though, I feel like MGQ is one of those settings where having metaknowledge wouldn't help at all Assuming you're not luka, at best you know the location of the spirits but good luck getting to them
>>543560107even if you know where they are and get to them you have to beat the spirits in a fight to earn the right to their powerHeinrich and Luka are the two humans who did it iirc and both are the opposite of normal, so good luck with winning
>>543559092I think he's talking about is Kludge, which to be fair, it is the weakest sequel game
>>543559702>>543560036He's talking about how the daughter is the main heroine in Colony. And you can have a secret relationship with the mother behind the daughters back
>>543560779at the very least, luka at the point where he fought sylph wasn't THAT strong. Very much so the upper echelon of strength that a human can get in mgq to be fair but I think it's possible for an SI to at least make it to sylph and get her power.Now, defeating Chimera Dyrad on the other hand is an entirely different ask
>>543560107Since the universe plays by the rules of a JRPG. Knowing that a person is at the mercy of game mechanics, you could probably exploit it for a bit before you it the wall.Though, how much your initial strength will be the moment you touch a job/race book is dependent on what you did in your prior life.
>>543561828that's only really true in paradox, and no matter what you're essentially hard walled by part 2 if you're not luka for story reasons
>>543561996We really don't know for sure if this mechanic is Paradox world only, since AW/MW played by the rules too. Not to mention Neris and Nero who came from the VN having their powers designated by race/jobs too.Luka in the VN was not exactly being the prime and proper hero going on an adventure, and was practically speedrunning his journey.
If I were a self-insert in Paradox world I would work and earn money to hire some adventurers to escort me and drop me next to the forest of spirits, then slowly earn the trust of the elves and fairies, then move to the forest and spend my days hanging out with Sylph.Plan B would be joining the navy and making friends with the marines.Both plans would probably involve getting molested, but who goes to MGQ expecting not to get molested by monsters?
>>543561828>>543561996I was giving it some more thought and if you're not with Luka but he's progressing the world itself in real time there's going to be a lot of jobs you can't access, but once he starts the Chaos route you could buy all the items to Sealed jobs/races but you'll need to be both some massive grindfag with good builds on your random recruits if you want your team to take out any major bosses instead of Luka.
>>543561150i was more referring to the last line where the post started to devolve into bizarre rambling
>>543562765I feel like you have to assume that paradox gameplay doesn't map 1:1 with what's actually going on. Like, it does to some degree as races and jobs do exist in setting but I feel like it's not entirely canon. Also I feel like if luka is progressing the plot you're going to be fucked because Luka is going to be progressing infinitely faster than you are due to just how cracked he is. Less so than in the VN, but still.Does make me wonder how you'd write a VN MGQ fanfic. You're kind of required to get rid of alice because if she's around she's just going to railroad you into the game plot
>>543562765Technically, you'll be a human, and stay being a human, since Prom is not going to be just giving any rando her magic race changing shots. And I doubt Lucia and Lily will turn you into a worm summoner.
>>543563324there's also the job change items
>>543563706you need to get those from royalty; basic -> intermediate doesn't require anything but advanced onwards doesthis is probably the main reason most adventurers only make it to T2 occupations and very few get past T3
>>543563081We do see heroes making it to the ML's castle in the past, so humans can get strong enough to reach Hellgondo, and fight to the ML castle. Though, a majority just stay at Remina because they just can't past the giant turtle and furry monster wall.How long these humans trained and fought to get that strong is never said. When it comes to Luka, TrTr said it took him about a year or so to finally reach the ML's castle.
>>543564128I think the big issue with VN constraints is that the holy knights can and will smurf the shit out of you without alice around. You can ignore the first granberia encounter, to be fair. But there's still alma and eru to worry about
>>543564401iirc but i swear i remember luka asking if he could fight someone more "mid-boss like" when he first sees granberia and i always found that funny
>>543564401With Alma, you can probably survive - but maybe not pass - by telling her that you want coexistence, and don't want to hurt monsters, you're not really a hero in the traditional sense of it.Misunderstanding of "hero = monster-killer" is the only thing that makes that vore scene make sense with Alma's character, otherwise it's purely there for fetish reasons.But Erubetie is completely unreasonable and will kill you.
>>543564919I don't think VN alma cares that much about coexistence, does she? Paradox alma yeah but i'm unsure about VN alma, then again VN alma has basically no character other than bog-standard horny seductress
>>543400106What about small, sexy foxes?
>>543565103VN Alma justifies all her actions to Luka and Alice as protecting the lives of monsters from murderous heroes. She doesn't believe in coexistence, but her reason for acting as she does is to save monster lives. If you make it clear you haven't hurt anyone outside of self defense, that's still a good, and your best, shot at mercy from her.
>>543565428Best
>>543565862I know Granberia justifies her actions with that, but I don't remember Alma ever saying that. I assume it's somewhere in her monster lord castle fight but do you have a screenshot.
Foxes stink.
>>543566220Good.
>>543565428I prefer my foxes big.
>>543565103I think it's a matter of pride/people's expectations for her.>this is what happens with a succubus queen and a hero
>>543566571
Best Shiki coming through
>>543565428Is it me or are female goblins are way more prevalent western h-games than eastern ones? Actually now that I think about it most of the time female goblins don't even exist in eastern h-games. I wonder why it's like this.
>no Calamity that tries to unbirth the planet
>>543569175Deranged psycho who has to rape some AU version of her dad, because the real one only fucks his proper wife.Neris is pathetic.
>>543569294Goblins are a western thing, for being shortstacks and Pseudo lolis whiles Japs usually jut have lolis and only really see them for their males. Its kinda like Jap dogbolds pig orcs vs Western Lizard bolds and Green Orcs
>>543569294Because sexy goblins are from WoW and CoC ultimately, they're the ones that set all the stereotypes and expectations for that. These games don't have a big playerbase in Japan, though they have one in China, so there's no real context for them to build a sexy goblin archetype from. For Japan, goblins are ugly little green men like from D&D or the Japanese properties inspired by it, which means they're male rapists, or else at a stretch they fall into the 'small = loli' thing and are just green-skinned lolis that'll show up now and then. KC did a female goblin of this type, but she didn't really catch on strongly and didn't propagate.
>>543569294It's kind of odd that one of the most iconic RPG enemies didn't show up in Paradox. Hell, Orcs got both flavors, pink pig, and green barbarian monster.
>>543569692At least she doesn't kill you.
>>543569692I think it's cute. Incest is cute and romantic.
>>543570085>KC did a female goblin of this type, but she didn't really catch on strongly and didn't propagate.Because she wasn't even green, just a regular loli and one with big tiddies. Not that I didn't like them and their story, I just wished they were more goblin like. I had to fix the soundpost hope it works
>>543570725I guess some sound posts just stop working even if I make an entire new file. Odd.
>>543570725True they're very plain, his plainer girls tend to get ignored even if they look nice.
>>543570304Wants to really cuck her mom, but can't do it to her real one, so has to make do with some AU version that actually won in another timeline where the bastard twins die too. Again, Neris is easily one of the most pathetic incest baits in fiction.
>>543569867I'm just surprised it never caught on especially because I don't think japan has a counter part to this archetype
>>543571036And that makes me sad, he should really look into giving girls different skin colors more often at least>>543571202But they do though, Lolis.
>>543571202They don't need one in the context of MGs. Japan makes their goblins be the wart infected green little shitters like the western ones, but with an added dose of rape.Making a cute, midget green girl with pointy ears that rapes people would not be that different to traditional real monster counterpart, only with a vagina.
>>543570093
>>543571426Goblins and shortstacks are not lolis
>>543571934I was mostly talking about the green version, which still dominates JRPG games.Gob is kind of oddity, since she looks more like a oni. Then again, she is from NotJapan.
>>543560107>>543560779While Heinrich definitely isn't normal, he's still technically a regular human as far as I know which means mastering the spirits is a viable path to getting stronger. Even if you can't make it to most of the four spirits right away, you can still make use of lesser spirits to strengthen you.>>543564919I don't think Alma cares enough about coexistence at that point to be convinced just like that. She doesn't really care about blockading the continent either though so you might be able to get her to let you through if you manage to entertain her enough.
>>543571553But aren't most MGs just the traditional monster but "woman". Also I meant a counterpart to the western one that's been popular in recent years because it's everywhere.
>>543572171It makes sense that she would block you if you don't entertain her enough, but the>lol, vore, lmaois hard to understand, so I'm kinda grasping for reasons here.
>>543569294>>543570981 I think it's probably because they are neither cute nor sexy in the traditional sense. I don't think these kinds of gremlins are too popular in Japan. Shortstacks are already somewhat niche most of the time after all.
>>543571992They're like lolis just not child like. They 'occupy' a similar but not the same space. Its how Shortstacks and Oppai lolis cross paths from time to time
>>543572794Oh, the WoWs goblin. The small monster girl that isn't a loli, but just a midget grown woman.I don't think Japan cares for that at all. They had the chance to do that with their female dwarves, but instead, made them loli instead.
>>543571142Stop being mean to the poor girl.
>>543573016You could probably argue that the vore thing was something she felt like she had to do to keep up the blockade and stop heroes or something like that, she does have a certain sense of duty after all.
>>543212849In case you haven't found it yet, she's from Good Bye, Dragon Life.
>>543573126>>543573491>I think it's probably because they are neither cute nor sexy in the traditional senseGapmoe is dead
>>543573260>They're like lolis just not child likeSooooooooo not like lolis at all
>>543575171I love Doll Alice so much. Anons just don't have good taste because they are cute and sexy
>>543575491Doll Alice would be more popular if most players' entire experience with her wasn't seeing her 5 seconds before the final battle with no defining dialogue whatsoever.I like her better than the other Alices because her eyes are very striking and look dumb in a cute way.
>>543575171>>543575491Midna has left an indelible stain on my mind, but I'm sure every monster girl fan is well aware of how boring Japan usually is when it comes to even slightly unconventional physical traits.
>>543576991I think the last time I saw that kind type be popular, was the yordles from LoL.But they were weirdos that were borderline furry, to just straight furry.
>>543577215Doesn't Poppy still get a small trickle of art from Japan? I don't think I've seen much furry art of her, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if there was quite a bit of it since Japan has never really had a hard distinction between furry and non-furry art. To my knowledge, the concept of people being furries never really became a thing in Japan after all.
>>543577215Yordles are a mess.>have race of anthropomorphic, furry guys>but also some not furry animals like Fizz>also have Meglings, a race of small cute humanoids>two small cute races is too many, they get fused into one>now men are furries and women are sex incarnate small creatures>but also some male yordles look like gnomes>later make Vex, woman subtly covered in fur>also sometimes Tristana and the other girls are actually covered in fur that just looks like skin>other times they look like only their ears might be furry>also they're secret creatures that need to use glamour as humans to hide but not actually because LoL lore is constantly rewriting itself>>543578252Japanese do tag their furry art as kemono, but it's very different from western furry art cause they like cuteness much more than the anatomically accurate genitalia and snouts. Of course, there's japanese people who like the snouts, but the cute art is prevalent enough that people outside japan loaned the word kemono to distinguish it from western furry like we do cartoons and anime.
>>543576991>I'm sure every monster girl fan is well aware of how boring Japan usually is when it comes to even slightly unconventional physical traits.This is why I'm always surprised by how popular MGQ is. but I know every monster girl game from japan that isn't Quest are usually cosplay tier most of the time or just elves and not like the weird lanky kind like in divinity.
>>543579524Different isn't innately good, Divinity OS with its ugly furries and such isn't better than Dragon Commander which had sexy dwarves and skeletons.
>>543579524You know, if you saw the old popularity poll, the most vanilla monsters in MGQ were at the top of the list.Which is to be expected, since most of the vanilla types were front and center.
>>543579746>Different isn't innately goodThat's why I called it weird and not sexy because I don't think that really fits sexy lol.>>543579750Damn.....I wonder what a would be the most popular here, it'll probably just be a bunch of foxes if I think about it.
>>543579746Different denotes neither bad nor good, but it certainly means "not the same". I personally think that has value in and of itself, even if I'd definitely prefer things to be different in an attractive way. Preferably a way that includes feathers.>>543580339>it'll probably just be a bunch of foxes if I think about it.That's not true! Harpies would be on the list too!
>>543580598I love Reina!
>>543093115I love my Wife!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DriJYEliebA
multiple daughters with my stinkwife chrome
>>543588031Fredricka, give her a bath NOW
>>543551927You can't say this without dropping a link to it.>>543560107Actually meta knowledge could be really useful if you're risking it all. Ignoring the obvious stuff like the 4 spirits, there's a small window of time where power could exponentially be increased. If you recall, Tartartus 3 has both Shirome and Promestein alive for a moment of time and if you somehow befriend Marcellus, you could save both.Now how you would go about it, IDK, it's up to the writer for a fic to come up with the idea. My take would to be a traveling merchant type character that shows up each town Marcellus and his party would arrive in and be a stand-up guy, giving them discounts on shit like healing potions and the like. And once Marcellus becomes “Marcellus”, I would ask him a favor before he goes on his solo hero quest to protect Singularity World by asking him to help me save two people. The two people being key in stopping all of the existence from being erased.Would being guenia pig for Promestein and Shirome come with risks, Yes, but becoming a cybernetic, gene-modded orgasm is a way better fate than being Apopotsis meal. Also, the chance of fucking Promestein is something I can't pass up on.
>>543588808I was thinking more about the vn mgq than I was thinking about paradox. In paradox you have far more options due to humans not being so weak by default, but in the VN you're just kinda fucked. Even heinrich had aliceteromeria to babysit him
>>543590626Heinrich pulled his greatest feat (depopulating heaven) without any help from Alicetromeria or the spirits whatsoever.
>>543575171it been fucking 5 years since bs 2 godamm dead red hood when
>>543292969Do you remember the name of it?
>>543586614>never everfeels bad
>>543598041>ILLias will never be realwhy exissdjkldjflgjlkhg
>>543599559Error. Corruption detected. Eliminating...
>>543600141Cute!
>>543515021>When you got huge tits before getting pregnant, then they have to get giant after!Reminds me of how UN_DO gave Saki huge tits when I a pregnant sex picture of her.>it is supposed to be the lightning or why is her face so much paler than the rest of her?Not like I can read the artists mind, but judging by how there's a spot on her belly where there is more light on it, I'm pretty sure it's lighting thing. Looking at the top right of the image, there seems to be a diagonal beam of light hitting her, so you can see that her left (viewers right) wing looks brighter than her right. So yeah, pretty damn sure it's just a lighting thing.
>>543459108the wording implies they like male foxes it should say no foxes period
>>543569692every other neris has to deal with the fact they were made by tamamo bottling luka's semen in his sleep.
>walls you're paradox run
Can you recruit the phenomenon of ruin somewhere down the line? All I've found in central tartarus are the pseudo ones like agaliarept and belial.When I tried adding dark phoenix with cheese to see what she'd be like, she was level 5 and had serpent of lust as a race... Angolmois comes at level 50 but is otherwise completely normal.
>>543613943Next update.
>>543614130Damn... But I guess that's better than never.
If you look in the mirror and see a monster you can't blame the mirror.
It took almost 15 years for kingdom hearts 3 to come out, we will be waiting around that same time for part 3's post game to come out are you prepared? I'm not. I'm 42 now I will be dead or in my 50s by the time TrTr not only releases it but by the time it's translated
>>543620186What's the problem? 50s is too early to die for healthy people.
>>543620947I live in America and have chronic kidney disease
>>543621170>I live in AmericaMy condolences.
Is ex-tuple zeta supposed to deal around 440 quadrillion damage? Because Chaos just got fucking obliterated with one shot of it. Didn't even have Luka use ultimate secret technique. Just ultimate transform iirc...
>>543622769Just pray our system doesn't "grace" your country soon. When I die I hope i get a sonya like gf in the next world
>>543625803Too late for prayer, it's already here and the oblivious population still think it's not their problem but america's(but the puppets on top of the country implement american "solutions" so it's just a matter of time).
>>543623371It is objectively the best skill because of element composition.
>>543623371To put it simply the reason why that skill does such insane damage is because it benefits from all the different elements, if for example you use something like fire slash while normally dealing fire damage you get a damage boost, if you use a skill that uses a whole bunch of elements and you summon all the spirits and you deal inherent eternal and demise and everything else while boosting all their elemental damage then you get something silly.
The bird that sticks its head out gets shot.
So, is the latest version of the manua/bitbucket translation updated to work with 3.06 or do I have to use 3.05 for it?
>>543644216manual translation always uses latest game version.
>>543656935I like the ghost girl, she’s fun
>>543623371It depends on your level/build and also possibly how many proofs you gave him, but it is probably supposed to be the strongest skill in the game yeah.Chaos has three different phases but only the first phase is supposed to be an actual “fight”. Phase 2 and 3 are zero effort cutscene bosses unless you go out of the way to do something like modding the game in some way. That being said trtr overturned part three so much that 90% of people ended up overgrinding far more than is necessary so by the time you get to Chaos the average player is usually instantly killing her anyways.
>>543669246IMO Trtr didn't really overtune Part 3 but he fucked up in a few areas>expected all the players to be metafags>open-world rpg that you'd only know the scaling in a second playthrough or following a guidethe final boss and dungeon are pretty overtuned however I have to assume the thought process was to grind for the endgame gear of Alice/Ilias/Luka/etc before you're ready which would be the only moment the player is expected to actually grind in this game.
>>543672572I hear rumors that the reason why Part 3 ended up this way was because TrTr got nothing, but metafags to beta test the game. So, what we got was Paradox being the default setting, with teams that tore through the LoC with the most optimal builds you can get being the main focus to balancing the new chapter.
>>543673090>with teams that tore through the LoC with the most optimal builds you can get being the main focus to balancing the new chapter.Sealed/Forbidden jobs both fuck over old teams too much for that to be the case, and are too overpowered that enemies would have Chaos route HP in Alice/Ilias route to make up for Luka having Corruption conditional, Crisis Addict Heroism or even just Eden having Critical Lance. Keep in mind Conditionals were added AFTER Part 2 launch and isn't balanced for them yet supposably Part 3 is.If I were to take a guess on what probably happened is the testers were either told to use new characters or only used them and saw nothing with old characters like say Barbun or Levia becoming worthless because they don't synergize with the new chains or multiple element booters skill meta.
>>543676332NTA but what I’ve seen on the Japanese wiki has led me to believe that Barbun has actually been doing perfectly fine for her usage in Part 3.I don’t know about Levia though.
>>543652784cute santa girl
>>543588808I'm gonna be honest anon now that you've brought her up, but if you actually managed to encounter Promestein this way, then the moment she realizes you have meta-knowledge or 'isekai'd' into her world, there's a non-zero chance that she starts experimenting on you and a very high chance that only half of those experiments are ones she will inform you about.And I don't mean the fun kind of experiment I mean the kind of thing like her asking Luka if she can dissect his brain multiple times.moestein is kinda cute, though.
>accept gift of 1000 casino gems>screen suddenly whites out like the guy got flashbanged>"Master! Master! Please wake up!">Oh, it's just Vivi>She's just checking in because she's worried about him and asks how the guy is doing>asks if he's been able to remember anything that's happened since they first met (presumably due to his memory problems)>tell her yes>she's just happy he has some good memories>then says they've spent a lot of intimate time together so it's natural that he has good memories>"......I don't mean that in a weird way, though. You know that right.">she's working on a gift for him, but doesn't want to spoil the surprise, this was just to make sure he's doing ok and all, so she hopes he has a good day and looks forward to doing more with himawyou know, for all of her faults, maybe I'm starting to warm up to this navigational fairy, even if only just a little.I still definitely prefer her real form though.
>>543667467horsepussy
>>543692059
>>543339953Toasting for visibility. This time we will win. Maybe.
>>543698820I BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
>>543698165A fairy happy to let you handle her. Truly the greatest sign of trust.
>>543699559ruining that trust by using her like an onahole!
>>543706396
>>543688795i think almost nobody actually cares about this game, but i am amused that one anon seems to have become mindbroken by it and now seems to have some kind of skewed schizophrenic perception of it. it feels like a less extreme version of what happens with MGE.
>>543709893But it is more extreme though? Monster girls get raped and turned into drugs, human women get raped by literal male monsters, and human men get turned into little girls, and then raped.
When I think about it, I'm just a Balkan Mandingo for some wyte Austrohungarian womyn
>>543711309i meant that particular anon's (or, well, maybe a few anons, I can't really by 100% it's all one guy of course) reactions to the game are about two/thirds of the way to being as schizophrenic as how some anons react to MGE whenever it gets brought up by somebody, rather than the actual setting itself being less extreme, since MGE eventually turned into a really safe no-danger-shown kinda thing.
>>543631053That's how it works? I honestly thought it just chose the best element/s from everything the attack carried and used that.>>543669246Tried to keep luka as in line with og luka as possible plus whatever the story guided him towards. Big part was probably the world breaker, judgment, and the sword+heroism gem you get from beating jihad on him that ballooned his stats on top of making his final gear. Up till then, skills like quadruple giga would only do big damage if I'd used four guardians or something first.
>>543709893It's not like I'm the only one in this thread that's playing it anon, although I am probably the most vocal about it. I just think it's comfy once you either get past the really early stuff or plan on the version that simply deletes it outright. MGQ has plenty of worse things in it, and I still love it.And also trtr's updates are on hiatus with NG++ probably coming 2026/2027 at best, and then I'll have to wait for that to get translated, and who even knows when the final final update after that is going to come out that's going to be specifically for the very definitely final version of the Labrynth of Chaos. >>543712207yeah, I'd guess giving him those gems (and gear but mostly the gems) is probably what tipped it over the edge. He's pretty higher than I finished at, but not overtly so and you definitely didn't overlevel his jobs or anything, so it's definitely the gems.And yeah any skill with innate elements benefits from all elemental boosters and booster effects, including spirit buffs, while applied element skills (i.e, the stuff that works off the basic attack) only picks the strongest element. Innate element skills became ridiculous in Part 3 because of it. Zero to Infinity was so overpowered trtr felt the need to nerf it and the Null Element, and even then it's still one of the best skills in the entire game.
>>543712207>just chose the best element/s from everything the attack carried and used that.That's how it works when a skill doesn't have Chaos elements. So normal Quad Giga sucks because it doesn't have Chaos elements so no Element boost stacking. Meanwhile Extuple Zeta gets +50% from those gems and +50% from the spirits or even +75% with Enhanced Spirits. That's not counting Holy/Dark/Fire boosters you'll probably have from Luka's races.
>>543713127>>543713139Guess that'd at least partially explain why certain characters would just drop off in quality. If someone got a pierce element ability and their skills/innate strike naturally dealt that element, I just focused on that specific element to save AP/gem slots for other things. Alma could've actually managed to use her one turn of life before failing to dodge an auto-hit for something other than dancing and singing...
>>543712207There's two factors in play, first off is element boosters. For normal skills if you have a skill that does multiple elements like giga slash and have fire booster 30% and ice booster 15% it will only take the 30%, for skills with chaos elements it will combine the boosters but only if it's a part of the skill itself. The second factor is having a matching element strike, this is something separate from element boosters if you have a weapon that does fire damage or a passive to add fire damage and you use a fire skill you get 20% more damage, and this adds on the more elements you have.
>>543565428>>543565782>>543567673>>543568142fuck tamamo
>>543565782Giganto sex
This picture has literally the only two good girls in the entire game.
>>543721517I wish this game (different game, obviously) had significantly more polish and at least a bit more content. It controls smoothly and I like how the enemy girls get ryona'd and basically all of them are hot.This one needs a sex scene, though.
>>543722021Succubus Affection is by far the best pure /mggg/ platformer. The girls are great, the atmosphere is comfy, it'll keep you busy for a few hours, and the gameplay is fairly polished.And you basically run around filling your town with the enemy girls that you encounter in the field, which is something that I like. I do that in Skyrim.
I don't really care for the Charybdis Girl's design (its just kinda boring I guess), but I have to admit, taking the sea monster that's essentially a girl cursed to become a giant sentient whirlpool that's constantly thirsty and swallows everything around it three times a day before throwing it back out into what's ostensibly a water nymph that lives at the bottom of a whirlpool who's constantly "thirsty" and swallows everything around her with the whirlpool three times a day so she can "eat the men (in 'that' way)" before throwing them back out is kind of a bizarrely funny idea for turning it into a Monster Girl.Between this and the Lion getting off on being strangled I have to wonder what other weird shit they took from the greeks and then twisted around this way.>her bio constantly interrupts itself to repeat that she likes to eat a lot of beef, because stealing cows is what got her cursed to begin with in at least one version of the storykek
>>543722873That does sound kinda comfy............important question though, are there any harpies you can bring back?
>>543725239None that I can remember or that I find immediately walking around town.But it's also been a long time since I've played through the game.
>>543726335darn....still, thanks for checking anon
alright, I'm gonna finally get around to learning more about the other girl I'm actually kinda interested in at my own surprise.never expected to see a Crab Girl like this, nor for her to be so endearing. And while she might not do a ton of damage man is she ridiculously durable. hopefully she'll get to show back up again in a story someday.......
>>543688795What does her real form look like? Is she tiny or does she just fit the role of a fairy?
Hello I'm sorryI heard about paradox recently and it seemed like fun where would I be able to get a download?I tried following what was in the OP but it says the download is no longer available.
>>543733727>3.06 Raw>Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06
>>543733830thank you im dumb
>>543733526She's a big hag.
Can a Coca-Cola slime exist? All fizzy and sugary?
>>543613596she has a flat chest so thats fitting
how do i get the same font from the original mgq into the remastered version?
>>543735809Don't see why not. Shit's already pretty much slime with how much corn syrup they seem to add to it now.
Get ready, Luka! No matter what, we must hold Anon back even for just one minute...!
https://pastebin.com/w87i82zPparadox mtl updated by merging in latest manual translation commits. Nothing else changed.Also, from archive with patcher Cheese mod was removed, you can download it from the wiki if needed, it's really easy to install/uninstall it nowadays, no need to reapply translation to add/remove it from the game.
WHERE IS THE DAMNED NAIL POLISH
>>543759723In the basement, inside the book with lots of weird eyes on the cover...
>>543762323I grabbed the forbidden book and went down to the cellar. I'm not seeing a way to interact.
I had a nap and dreams about a ricecake slime running away from an asian, bread slime running away from a white guy, corn syrup slime running away from a fat mullato wearing an american flag t-shirt and eva running away from a potato puree slime.
>>543762775>Anon almost destroyed humanity looking for nail polish inside a book
>>543766761>>Anon almost destroyed humanity looking for nail polish inside a bookhow is the plot that retarded even allow to happen
>>543767753Once you die enough times, the MC becomes numb to death and stops caring about being careful or rational, allowing you to summon a world-ending threat.Anon almost did the summoning ritual because he was looking for the ingredients to a different, less dangerous demonic ritual and another anon managed to trick him into performing the big one. He probably missed some steps required to do it, preventing him from accidentally dooming the world.
>>543767753evil succ is in bookbook go in librarivinum hiiii
Glue+Satan=Sticky
>>543766761>almost
>>543759723YES I WANT TO LOVE VINUM-SAMA!!
>>543779701She looks like she fucks ojisans
If Fox is bad for humanity, the why is the fox sexy for humans?
An omelette is just a slime/harpy crossbreed if you really think about it.
>>543787653Don't fry the Humpty Egg, anon.
>>543786105Foxes have changed their bodies, refining their shapeshifting magic for centuries, to become enticing to humans and look as breedable and trustworthy to them as possible. This is proof that they really care deeply about us and have our best interests in mind.
>>543786105>>543789067>Eats your soul and liver
>>543791162Don't date Korean foxes, problem solved.
>>543791908>Destroys your nation and eats your soul
>>543759723On a scale of 1-10 how serious is she about this?Personally, a slow life of reading magical books with a cute lolibaba doesn't sound too bad.
>>5437956821. The entire point of that scene is showing the protagonist just how easy it is to manipulate him. She does have a non-fatal ending but it involves him getting turned into a semen dispenser, not someone allowed to really 'live' and read books.
>>543733526>What does her real form look like?She's the very first 'Beast God' you obtain by default, and her true self only comes out when you ask her to attack. However most of the time she's "compressed" herself down into the cat-fairy size. She ended up explaining why she does this during the very first event when she's drilling into one of the other Beast Gods for her irresponsibility, because as it turns out she's so powerful that it's hard for her to control herself and spending all her time in that form has a good chance of destroying whatever's around her. So she feels like the responsible thing to do is to turn herself into that in order to avoid potentially endangering the island that she's supposed to protect.However it's also made really apparent during the conversation (because said Beast God continuously makes fun of her for how she looks) and honestly every single time this comes up afterwards that her spending many years like this has started to really hamper her self-esteem as a lot of the monster girls have never actually seen her true self and as a result they don't really treat her with that much respect or even seem to realize how strong she actually is. So she's incredibly insecure about herself and her status now, which is why she's constantly trying to emphasize her power and importance and insists of being called the "Great Beast God" or being addressed as either "great" or "the greatest".It's also probably why she gets so annoyed by the Prince being incapable of remembering or pronouncing her name correctly, although she never really gets angry at him for it because she knows it's just due to his head injury. until he ends up saying her sister's name correctly; then she completely loses it lmao
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>>543795898She's entirely right.All it took was >*Smooch* I love youfor [player] to become "Mimee" for eternity.
>>543795898>non-fatal ending>turned into a semen dispenserThat's a start... I guess? Maybe there's room for a promotion?
>>543766689Purupuru dreams...
Since there's so many voremonsters and sociopaths, what is your favorite succubi that isn't unpleasant? I think Shamisel from Kyonyuu fantasy is pretty nice
>>543805723I like Alma in paradox
>>543805723Emela from sequel colony, A succubus nun that controls their lust, Nyx from Awake was innocent and the succubus from MGD was sweet as well. Emela though made me like succs again after hating them I liked Nyx as well but she was an exception and I thought she was going to betray me. The same with Nazuna
>>543808003isn't nazuna the fox in the dunce cap?it's just hard to imagine why somebody would think she'd betray them.
>>543808427Yeah, I meant to say that for foxes she made me like them again. Also its because she was too much of a dunce, I was so used to kitsunes being monsters that trick you and such that I assumed she was trying to trick me
>>543805543It's stated openly that it'll last only until he runs dry.Succubi, with few exceptions, have no goodwill towards men. >>543805723Sofia (MGD) is cool to hang around.
>>543809040isn't sofia a mass murderer
>>543805723I feel compelled to mention Kuromi because she's just really funny to watch.
>>543802657to defeat a demon of lust one must become a demon of wrath
>>543809040noooooo
>>543809192A retired one.
>>543809040just don't run dry then.similarly to how you should just not cum three times if you don't want a fox wife.
>>543809192So is Tamamo
>>543810741
>>543810741mass murder is not illegal if you have really big boobs
>>543810741>>543811235To be fair, becoming the town bicycle is a good way to get people to forget your previous transgressions.
>>543809040>Sofiayou're forgetting someone
>>543811235checks out, i'd let her murder me
>>543811235Too bad I only like smallmamo then.
>>543810971>>543811235>>543811625I'm not even talking about MW!Tamamo, I just mean Tamamo in general, because all versions of Tamamo are mass murderers. The Original Tamamo just mellowed out considerably after finding a way to escape her seal and realized how awful even her own side's actions were, and came to deeply regret what she'd done. It's part of why she goes to great lengths to try and prevent any future monster lords from also becoming mass murderers.Singularity!Tamamo also helped opposed MW!Tamamo in-part because she hates her past self and how she used to be, until she suddenly decides she's completely ok with working with her and allowing all the stuff she did actually, 180s on her entire arc from Part 2 and then proceeds to become a cardboard cutout for the entirety of the rest of Part 3.alas.
>>543810741tamamo is more of a war criminal than a mass murderer
>>543812691lets be honest anon she's probably both, but she's definitely murdered a lot of masses in the past
>>543811915I'd be all for Trisha if it weren't for the fact that we can't actually settle down to live with her. It feels like we're just using her.
>>543812657I'm suprised it was tamamo's arc that got cut but granberia and alma's character arcs stayed, you'd think that tamamo's would be the more important one of the three but I guess not.
>>543813172Well she was trying to trick you and rape you for food in the first place, so can she complain about being used?
>>543812691>>543812927angelcel lives don't matter
>>543813172Her mom set you and her up
>>543814017I like how we try to downplay tamamo's warcimes by saying she only experimented on angels in the lab, but her murdering countless humans was just for fun I guess
>>543813653>>543814040I just don't like it. With Sofia, you're both on the same page. She wants to nap. You want lore. No misunderstandings.
>>543814017wrong
>>543814213>I just don't like it. With Sofia, you're both on the same page. She wants to nap. You want lore. No misunderstandings.I mean you do eventually get on the same page, as she starts to explain herself to you and talk as you spend time with eachother
>>543814534You still go out and lay everything with a pulse.
>>543814685Yeah, they understand, its part of the island's charm. You only meet people who'll be compatible with you.
>>543813187To be honest given it'd been found out that element split for the dark and light heroes was earth/water and wind/fire respectively and Tamamo's entire thing is her complete devotion to Alice, the problem was that trtr wrote her into a no-win scenario. If Tamamo stays true to the lessons from her soul-searching, that inevitably means she has to betray Alice, which would be completely out of character for her to do. But if Tamamo sides with Alice then she's teaming up with the group who were the entire reason for her existential crisis in the first place and she renders everything she went through pointless. She had no arc that was cut from Part 3 because her arc was in Part 2, Part 3 just requires her to forget her arc because otherwise the alternative would be even more out of character.>>543814017anon she murdered entire kingdoms of humans and most of them Ilias probably didn't even care about or bother to defend
>>543814870That's too one-sided for me.
>>543815224Its your choice if you want to actually be with them anon. But that's how the island works, it goes both ways, the monsters want to be with you and you want to be with them, the monsters who don't want to be with you, you might never meet or only have a slight greeting before moving on
>>543814126>remember the 6 gorillion goy
>>543814685You're thinking of elves, anon.
>>543816558Elves are pure!
Behold, the face of evil.
How would Granberia fare against Dracule "Every blade is an upscale" Mihawk?
>'Hmm, today, I would like to eat a crab'>loans crab trap device from the penguin>catches a ton of crabs overnight>'aw yeah, cookout time'>heads over to the rocky shore so the rocks will block the wind>climbs on top of the closest large-sized rock he can find>lights it on fire>the rock begins screaming>it's actually Aqua, and she lifts her face up from the sand to see what's going on as her entire body is buried in the ground>that "crab companion" isn't actually an animal friend of hers who's riding around on her back>it's PART OF HER HEADWell that's one anatomical mystery solved, but can you imagine having to carry that around all day long?Apparently she doesn't even sleep or dream in a traditional human sense, she just rests during the night to conserve energy.I like the idea though, she's kinda cooler this way. Aqua is definitely a very unique Crab Girl and I've never really seen one like her before.Funnily enough she wasn't even hurt by what happened and calmed the guy down by just pouring sand on her back to put it out; it didn't do anything to her, she was just really startled. Which is understandable. He basically woke her up by setting her head on fire.
>>543819617Must be hard going through doors with such a big head. The game probably joked about it already though.
>>543796357I guess that design wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that her cute and frilly fairy form exists.>most of the time she's "compressed" herself down into the cat-fairy sizeNice.>spoilerPlease be nice to your cute cat god...
does 3.06 contain all the CGs from parts 1 and 2?
>>543817751Joke answer: Koron and Cleo Adra are swordsmen so this is super bad for GranberiaSerious answer: Dimensional Severance is way above One Piece characters hat Mihawk would simply get destroyed unless this becomes a dodgefest between Serene Mind vs Observation Haki.
>>543819617>'how shall I apologize'>'I know, I'll offer her crabs'>'oh, wait, she is a crab'>she's actually confused at the idea he thinks it might be cannibalism>"But, a crab is a crab.">"I'm a Zaratan Girl.">turns out crabs are actually one of her favorite things to eat >she's happy to accept his offer, but wants to prepare them for him so he doesn't injure himself>her safely preparing the crabs is apparently very surreal to watch>when she notices him watching her, she starts to get nervous, and quickly apologies for being so "rugged" and "scary">he actually thinks she looks kinda cool>she's worried though because she's really spiky and tough, so it would probably hurt to touch her>to cheer her up, he says even if that's true, her shell is so sturdy means she'd easily be able to shield him, and he'd feel very safe if she hugged him to protect him>"H-H-HUG YOU-?!">she begins to tremble and turns bright red>then her entire body starts foaming as bubbles pour out of her mouth>she collapses on the spot>she was just too anxious>it's probably the seventh time this has happenedThe follow up kinda goes into typical porn logic as the segue and I have the feeling her artist had no idea how to draw her head from the side because it does not look that compressed or flat from the front nor in her model. She uses a lot of foam to keep from hurting him though. Given what outsiders seem to be like, there being a lot of virgin monster girls isn't surprising either.>>543820057That hasn't actually come up, but it's probably part of why she just lives by the coastline. Okyuu used to live in a cave herself until she got a beach house.She does, however, mention that she is frequently mistaken as a rock by people who comes to the island and identifies the trio as the ones who keep stepping on her, and when Okyuu hears this she moves to defend her but is also bewildered that people are landing enough for it to be a common occurrence and questions their security.
>>543817751Strangely enough, for a game that gets called a DBZfest, we really don't see much amazing feats that would warrant it in MGQ.Lucifina's moon attack, and Michaela nuking an entire city by herself are the closest things to DBZ as far as I remember.I know the Goddesses, and everything above them should be able to make a simple nuke attack look like a firecracker, but we hardly see anything like it in the actual game.Granberria being a tier below Ancestor/Archangel tier for most of the series, doesn't have anything like Mihawk effortlessly cutting a giant iceberg in half without even using haki.
>>543820736her true form is only shown in promotional art and the beast god skill. she's never seen like that otherwise.Which is unfortunate, but the explanation for it makes sense and is kinda funny, and the chibi is probably better suited as a mascot. I'm just really not into lolis like that, so I find her cg uncomfortable to look at, but it's better knowing she's genuinely well-meaning and trying to keep everybody in check, and I don't really have any issues with how she looks in the animations or artworks as she's usually pretty funny in those. I'm not sure why her cg makes me so uneased in comparison. Maybe it's the proportions, or the lack of detail in the other things, or her not being drawn so up-close or something.Or maybe it's just my extremely deep-seated distrust and dislike of fairies.It's definitely not helping at least. Airy was an asshole.>please be nicewhat's funny is he wasn't even trying to be mean, he's genuinely confused by her reaction, she's just put up with it for months if not years and cannot grasp how he can say her sister's name but still cannot say her own.It's the only time I think she just starts screaming at him and it's honestly hilarious.
>>543825701>Airy was an assholeDon't forget about that one time Airy was nice! She really is a good girl deep down!
>there's a picture of her just throwing potatoesI guess she did learn something from the culture exchange
>>543827069She apparently came back in a LN I believe? Seemingly less evil, and wanting some redemption.Don't really know much about it, since I really did not care for anything about that series after the first game.
>>543827069I remember, that's why I said 'was'. I've still never gotten to read this stuff though, so I just have the memories of the Airy who isn't like that. Her sister didn't seem much better either.At least there's one Airy who's good though.Oh, right and there's also Leaf, but I ironically never trusted her specifically because of Airy and kept ignoring her throughout the entire game and as a direct result of me refusing to interact with her I got a happier ending that left me content with beating the game.>but the time loop-shhhhh
>>543827224Yeah, Airy comes back in The Pocketbook of R spinoff. She eventually comes to the realization that she's no longer bound to Oroborus's will and can make her own decisions, and this eventually leads to her redemption and becoming Ringabel's dimension-traveling friend. This is funny because it's a strong contrast to her sister Anne's attestation that cryst-fairies are better than humans because they have a set purpose defined by a god and don't make their own choices, that Airy ends up being granted the freedom of choice, becomes good, and finds happiness in it.
>>543827224Yeah, there was a post that went over the whole redemption thing a few months back, although I forget the details off the top of my head. The important thing is that she's nice! In one very specific timeline!>>543827719>as a direct result of me refusing to interact with her I got a happier ending that left me content with beating the game.But that means you never got the ending where you live happily ever after with your loving and devoted fairy wife?
>>543829009>In one very specific timeline!It's all the same Airy, she's a dimension-traveling entity so there was only one Airy all along, having to repeat the same treacheries over and over and over again for a cumulative iirc it was a billion years. So it's the same Airy as the first game who was redeemed, not an alt counterpart.
>>543829009Correct, I got the ending where I lived happily ever after with my loving and devoted harpy wife. I know what I like. If you're into fairies, I'm not gonna stop you. But for me? It's Goose.
>>543825701>Airy was an assholeFunny how, porn aside, Airy managed to leave a bigger impression than the main party, only Ringabel coming close. Even the people making the games must've felt she was too good to forget cause they put her in any game they were allowed after and even made her as close as possible to a series mascot, though I feel they tried to make the Chompers in Bravely Second the mascots instead and failed to make it stick. >>543829146It's the same Airy, though the "Angel" that Yulyana saw calls her a new one, the way the story is written makes it feel like a symbolical thing. She died and was reborn with no memories of the previous loops or her master just the instinct to keep looping, and the emotional connection between Ringabel is central to the plot of the Bravely Default side of the novels.>>543827069 The Mobius loop in place of a number symbolizes that no matter how many crystals she opens her master will never come back, so if Ringabel hadn't stopped her she would've tried to keep going forever. Always check the wings and remember the difference:>a number means evil>∞ or RP means good>nothing usually means good, though sometimes the artist forgot or didn't bother to draw a a number
>>543829489it the golden goose really goose if so she dead if she can't escape the garden after g/h
>>543829489Did Harpy anon finally play BS?
>>543824260>simple nuke attack look like a firecracker, but we hardly see anything like it in the actual game.Paradox faces the same DBS problem. Scaling went too high that any collateral damage would destroy the planet so it never actually happens. Take Star Eater having like 3 different skills that would destroy the world, and even if that fight is on the moon if it translated to anything beyond her getting oneshotted at very least the entire moon should be gone.
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1761265865989512.mp4Prompting AI stuff is fun!
>>543829146>>543831623In other words, Airy is and always will be a very good girl in every world and every timeline!
>>543835227I thought you had to pay for Sora anon? I've just been using grok
>>543837126nah I got an invite code and it gives you 30 gens a day
>>543837532Lucky. Well, gen your waifu whiles you can anon. Maybe they even made a chat bot for her
>>543837746Possibly. Getting anything even slightly lewd around the filters is extremely hard though.
>>543837871We just have to wait until it finds its way into public hands. But for now I just settle for cute
>>543838113BasedCute is Justice
>>543831623I really liked Edea and Tiz. Agnes was fine. But Ringabel's easily the best of the main cast.My favorite character (besides Ringabel and Alternis Dim so Ringabel is honestly Ouroboros though, he's just so awesome. Even if he only showed up at the end he left one heck of an impression.>>543833965I literally only ever got one ending and it's Goose.I do not need nor require any other ending.>>543834783finally? I beat that game at least two years ago.
>>543839059>>543839059>finally? I beat that game at least two years ago.Did you play BS2?
>>543838241Hugging your waifu is great
>>543839059knowing goose she going to cheated death again she the only heroin so far that still alive and not some skinwalker
>>543829489Isn't it funny how, for all her possessiveness and evil demeanor, if you never take her ring or just sell it for spare change Leaf decides to let you live your whole happy married life with any other heroine before rewinding time? It's like Ilias letting Luka have his happy ending with Spatsune when she could go back in time as soon as she takes him away.
So is there an actual ending to part 3 beyond reconciling with chaos? Got Karen, got Whiteyel council, got all the ancestors/archangels/Sub Ilias/Alipheese. Only piece of info Amira has left is the diary and the only posting on the notice board is panty sensei.
>>543840321that IS the ending, those are all postgame quests.you can walk around and talk to everybody if you want.
>>543841135Oh...
Airy's supposed to be a twist on the trope of cute fairy companions being good, right? How often do games actually have a cute fairy companion though? All I can personally think of are a few Zelda games and Black Souls, with the former being balls of light and the latter being Leaf. My knowledge of JRPGs is rather limited so I'd like to think this is due to a lack of knowledge on my part rather than a lack of examples.
>>543843552Dragon Quest IX has one and she's a gyaru. The subversion is that she's actually the sealed version of god's evil daughter who's being punished and is now only spoiled and selfish, but finishes her redemption by spending time with you. Then she sacrifices herself and dies.
>>543843940Not bad...Still, that's 3 for 3 on less than stellar fairy companions.
>>543843552its more a fantasy thing than a game thing
>>543846817This is true. It's basically a Magical Girl staple.
>>543843308Yeah....you've got three options now, really>NG+ with some kind of twist that you think you'd enjoy (challenge runs, etc)>Enjoy time with your favorite girls and/or go to the LOC>Find your own way to improve thingsI am very thankful I managed to get the world back to normal(ish), because good lord I don't care if it's the point the unified world is still just incredibly uglyWell, I'm also just doing a bunch of stuff for fun until I feel like I can commit to a playthrough again......Mostly for Reina. It's mostly just things for Reina.I can't help it, I just love her so much!
for paradox does encountering a boss unlock the scene on the title page? I haven't lost to some enemies but the scenes are there
Really, are there any MG games centered around genderbending?Because that's my fetish
>>543851349someone already gave you your answer tranny
>>543851349You already asked here >>543292817 sis.
Nobody + Time = SomebodyThis is the absolute equation I have found.
>>543853871Arthur Schopenhauer already intuited this centuries ago, also what does this have to do with monster girls?
>>543849631This whole time I thought that kart sprite was for a Ring racers/Srb2kart mod
>>543854546Well, I was gonna try and make a mod for some kind of SNES mario kart originally but I quickly realized actually trying to do that is probably beyond my current abilities. But it's just a good example of how what I was talking about I think. I'm still pretty fond of how it turned out.If I could figure out how to make a kart race in RPGmaker though then it would be kinda funny to put it in that way in some capacity.
>>543846817That's a shame.>>543847194It's a shame those are usually animals instead of tiny girls, and the ones that are girls are generally cute blobs instead of cute girls from what I remember.Now that I think about it, doesn't Metaphor: ReFantazio have a fairy companion or something like that? Does anyone here happen to have an opinion on it?
>>543855334>Now that I think about it, doesn't Metaphor: ReFantazio have a fairy companion or something like that?She does, and she's very close to the protagonist and you can read some romantic undertones into it, but not as much as the triclops girl has.
>>543855152>If I could figure out how to make a kart race in RPGmaker I say you Ring racers/Srb2kart if you want to quickly get something you can show off running. But if you wanna do something like that to test your programming chops when what can I say lol.
>>543855620Neat, maybe I'll give the game a try at some point.
>>543855743to be honest I've never heard of either of those, I just happened to see a video of all those girls from that horse game in the SNES karts and it just made me think of "what if that but MGQ" and the first girl to come to mind was Reina.
>>543856315Surprised. You should give it a try it's very high quality and pretty fun
>>543854095They tell me I'm insane for splicing human dna with animal DNA in order to create monster girls, they say I'm just creating horrors beyond my comprehension, but while I can't say I fully understand this topic I'm sure I know more about it than those dumb naysayers.
>>543862187What do you think of that schizo who said the human species exists as a result of chimps fucking pigs?
>>543862256Would explain a lot of things.
>>543862256>>543862735It doesn't explain how human social behavior and courtship is curiously bird-like though.
>>543863258It's only natural that humans would try to imitate the best animals.
>kitsunja
Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.
>>543855334>>543855620Out of six doujins on nhentai three are the same one focused on the fairy. It's one of the few interspecies fairy doujins that's romantic, too bad I didn't play the game so it doesn't have the same emotional impact.
>>543812325smallmamo canonically prefers being small
mega.nz/file/rU83kDqJ#wAqwfGQSG-SdjyYV6H4gU0fEyMhMCbP0SZTRjrd_Ehcupdated a shitty mod for Paradox. link is on the wiki as alwaysPreviously known as "Enemiezer", heavily updated. Old mod is deprecated, pls delete if you still use itMuch more configurable enemy additions to battlesCon: Looks BAD. It will always look bad because mod adds enemies programmaticallyBig sprites especially weren't intended to be on the screen, looks pretty bad in most casesBut:Double Bosses (setting is OFF by default)Configurable chance to add random non-boss enemies in every battle. (50% by default)Two modes of addition: Regional and Id RangeRegional mode (ON by default) - adds random enemies from the same map/region where player is at. Quite organic additions.Id range (OFF by default) - with configurable range and direction, adds enemies by their internal id selected at random in range from enemy present in initial battleThree directions - weaker/weaker or stronger/stronger. Weaker is supposes that enemies with lower id numbers are weaker, and stronger - higher id numbers stronger. It might not always be trueRange (default 10) is configurable too, up to 50. Might add much more randomness to battles if set high
I want a mod for PERFECT difficulty where enemies are as tanky as paradox but you can actually take a hit and rely on healing... oh, but that would be too easy unless you practically disable status effects. Perhaps even then.
>>543873003just multiply your chars hp by 10 lmaocurrent mods allow making enemies however tough you want them.
Break from your past and overcome your darkness. Only then will you receive the holy power.
Foxes won
>>543882958And who was the traitorous human who helped them? You better confess your sins, anons.
>>543886589foxes fluff him
why do anon on v seethes so much about mge.So many tryhard edgelord just post about their fantasy of bashing monster to death and genocide them.I don't get it, how does that work? Do they hate how much the monster girl community has gravitated towards vanilla and pure love
>>543890176You should really work on your shitposting, this bait is way too obvious.
>>543890825I wish i was baiting
>>543890176why make a setting about just bashing monsters to death when you can be creatively fucked up with them but have factions regardless without opposed by the general populous is mindless and doesnt care or lean to much in either direction if you wanna edgelord do it right, like an example plopping a slimegirl into a desert makes it adapt into one that dryfishes any living creature by going inside it with tendrils and draining the 80% water out of you in the setting.or changielings(not used often) being a bit closer to lore accurate in them basically replacing your own kids congrats now you got a monster? nature spirit whatever as a dauighter with shapeshifting abilities that is 99% likely stronger than you. what happened to your original daughter is either sold, eaten or married to a fae cuz the fae do not have human morals. so now you got a monster masquerading as your human daughter you are forced to keep hush hush about and are extremely likely made to feed.also the changelings are all always autistic.
Here again, and... surely there must be a consistent way to defeat this bird on paradox besides resetting dozens of times and hoping for a miracleI'm just gambling for constant freeze procs and praying she doesn't thaw out. How do (You) do it?
>>543890176Why does it matter? It's not like you're gonna get a satisfying answer from anyone about why random people love being angry about small things. I've never been too interested in MGE's direction but you don't see me making a fuss over it. I'm just here to talk about monster girls since there aren't any monster girl fans anywhere else.
>>543893271Oh, whatever. Nevermind. The answer is>hope she doesn't aoe on turn 1>barbun is broken
>>543893271>>543894060No need to thank me, anon. I already know my support was invaluable here.
>>543890176Asking why /v/ is retarded and angry about something is a waste of time because the answer is in the question itself. They are retarded, and angry. /v/ has had a horrible reputation for that almost its entire existence to the point where many, many uncountable memes were made about it. You just got to ignore them, their opinions don't matter.
>>543890176You saw that thread too, idk either. I do however know that I wanna read some good monster girl smut, anyone got any they wanna share?
>>543882958They should win. Who doesn’t want to plap them and preserve their legacy?
>>543905416Smut? Okay.>A certain Noble's Happiness>White Snake>Kumo to NieIf you're okay with something creepier>Reptilian by Okano Hajime>Virgin Eater by boseIf you don't mind more comedy than smut, try most stories by Hroz. Three good ones are>You can't run from the Demon Lord!>Audacious Freeloading Succubus>My Slave, the Succubus. If you want something more relevant to /mggg/>Another Prison by Shiki>Inma Senki by Setouchi
>See this in your bedroomWell, they do say "till death do us part"...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OWOQF3dWi0
>>543913416Seeing how the pre-merger Kanon would make you into a fertilizer before even joking at the thought of marrying a human, this must happen post-merger.I guess it's my task at fixing her, because her obese mom, mean sisters, and a indifferent god of chaos wont do it.
>>543914852Luka’s trying to discipline her at least, and he’s gotten some progress.
I stopped checking the thread some time after part 3 release So is Three translation complete? Or are we still depending on the MTL ?
>>543926150I'm sorry, anon.
>>543926150don't think it's ready yet.
>>543914852>her obese momShe says she keeping an eye on the problem children, but I just don't believe her.
>>543936785she only said she'd watch, though
>>543937036A bit earlier she says she's keeping an eye on Hiruko so she doesn't eat anyone at the banquet. I'd imagine that applies to the rest of her kids.Whether or not she intends to keep doing so after the banquet's up in the air though.
>>543938000It's unfortunate that we didn't get a post game Ancestor quest like the Archangels did. We might have gotten a clearer picture of what they were doing when they got unleashed upon the world again after the Chaos crisis was over.
>>543817404Yao is so evil...
Doing evil stuff with your evil fox wife...Brushing her evil tail.Going on an evil date.Holding her evil hands.Kissing her evil lips.Inviting your friends to your evil wedding.Impregnating her evil woumb.Raising your evil family.Watching your evil kids grow up.
>sluggy stars fight getting my shit somewhat pushed in but not too badly>Mini playing around the entire fight, doesn't do a single thing, max sp whole time so I could tell>winI love this little shit but holy fuck what was that
>>543947479Gadabout job or the Playful ability and Bunny Headband has a 50% chance to play around.
>>543947479Her best anon, she's doing her best!
>>543950176I know but I've never had her fuck around for an entire boss fight before, it was pretty impressive.>>543952597Her and Papi are absolutely shitting on everything at the moment.I did just go gambling and Alice now has 200 magic stat so wonder if that'll be any good.Fun game.
>>543905416I don't read too much smut, but I remember being fond of Many-Eyed Hydra's stuff years ago. Do keep in mind that most of their stuff leans into horror and usually involves being dryfished by a succubus. I remember them posting some short stories in a similar style to SCP entries which I thought was neat.
>>543905416Mofumofuen (Sorairo Len)] Elf Princess Millisphea part 01-11 [English]
For Paradox how does dual wielding impact skill multipliers? For example if you use a rapier and a fist does that mean you get a 50% bonus on both rapier and unarmed skills? Does it only take the main hand weapon into account? Is the bonus cut in half?
>>543912472Out of curiosity, do any of those involve harpies? If not, do you know any that do? Asking for a friend.
>>543964353You'll get both bonuses, but there's a bunch of reasons you don't want to do that later.
>>543964980>t.
>>543966106I'm sure it's optimal to just stack the fuck out of multipliers for one thing at the end-game but I'm still in part 1 and just leveling jobs.
>>543967269Even earlygame you want to dual-wield say Great Sword, Axes, Heavy Spears, or Bows because they do more damage against enemies with stats down or Katanas or Fists because of Crit damage.
>>543937036>>543936785I guess watching others is in their blood
>>543968014oh no no no...
>>543967885>Even earlygame you want to dual-wield say Great Sword, Axes, Heavy Spears, or Bows because they do more damage against enemies with stats downWhere does it state this? And I've been primarily using agility weapons because I'm on Hell and if I don't outspeed things I just die.
>>543964980None of the ones I named have harpies, though Hroz has one. You search for Captured By A Harpy and you get it, though like in many of his doujins the story is short and humorous while the girl is good but stupid.Come to think of it I haven't seen that many harpy doujins. I've seen more mermaids even.
>>543964353Part 1 and 2? Pretty decent.Part 3? Dual wielding is no longer optimal and in fact single weapon and shield passives give bigger stat boosts than dual wield ones.
What different things would a talking Alice plush doll say when squeezed?
>>543972110Feed me, pervert, yeah ride him harder, I'm almost there
>>543972314>forgot her catchphraseit's "idiot" in different intonations obviously
>>543968969There's an npc who gives you the run down on a bunch of stuff at the beginning of part 3, but I'm pretty sure there's also one before that. Probably somewhere in illias temple with the other tutorial npcs. When in doubt, there's also the wiki (they're all under the items/weapons page).
>>543972314Just one line from the Q&A destroyed Alice's reputation...
>>543972110How has no one said "hora hora~" yet?
>>543976463all the actual alice fans are too busy sleeping with the doll
>>543975506Paradox flanderized her pretty hard in general too.>>543976463>"hora hora~"It'd be more like "hoorr~raaaaa~". Like a rubber chicken.
>>543972314>>543972748>>543976463And how would you activate her voicelines?
>>543979560You squeeze her
>>543979713Squeeze her where?
>>543981427Her belly button and she has a rare chance to say something sweet
If human penis happy why human penis cry
>>543096204That sounds a lot like FernGully.
>>543976691>Paradox flanderized her pretty hard in general too.IMO, alice was never all that strong or nuanced of a character even within the original VN. Aside from her memes which is what everyone remembers, what she has are basically going "wow I share basically the same trauma as Luka, isn't that wacky"
>>543986307She wasn't super deep, but I could at least take her seriously when she was meant to be taken seriously in the vn.
>keep trying to periodically revisit old library of computer games>over 60% of them have become unplayable or corrupted since the transfer>only a handful of those have been rescuable but this also invariably means all save data is FUBAR and I lose everything I had in them anyway>genuinely can’t revisit some of the old titles I liked nowGod I am so eternally grateful I was able to protect her and the others and managed to save themBut stillI HATE THAT FUCKING MERMAID
>>543934156>>543927601shame
Is the MTL patch for part 3 known to crash in certain menus? I loaded a 2.x version and it shows the menus fine but part 3 crashes every time I try to look at job/race info.
>>543936785>if she's in loli form, Hiruko promptly starts eating her against her protestsWow. Such parent.Even Lolias had the respect of her Angels, provided they believed she was Ilias...
>>543993472>The one who was mistaken was me.So you're going to do something about it, right?...RIGHT?
>>543993386no. using any mods? what's the error? Version 3.06?
>>543993571Reminder that this level of honesty and self-awareness is what Ilias had to deal with for thousands or millions of years.
>>543993571What exactly can she do to fix Hiruko's issues? Outside of inviting her to a friendly mother-daughter training session, of course.
>>543993959I'd give her a few months tops before she's crashing on Sub Ilias's couch in Yamatai though.
>>543994232tbf it's kind of a "Don't turn a world ending endless hunger vore calamity into one of your offspring"She could've made her out of something harmless, like marshmallows.
>>543996071She can't go back in time.
>>543994232Seal her in some kind of extra-dimensional prison where she can play with her own meat dolls for eternity. Or anything except you know, HANDING HER A FUCKING KINGDOM TO RULE OVER AS SHE PLEASES WHAT KIND OF RETARDED IDEA WAS THAT WHAT DID THAT FAT STUPID CUNT EXPECT TO HAPPEN
>>543998017>imprisoning your daughterThat doesn't fix Hiruko at all. she'd probably become even more insane. You're literally not any better.
>>543998501>m-muh daughteru dindu nuffin, I won't hurt her!Fuck off fat Alice, go figure out your problems on your own
>>543988635I don't remember her being taken seriously in the novel.
Shrift 2 is forgettable compared to the first game.
>>543999239From what I remember, the VN really only made fun of her when ghosts or food were involved. It took her seriously most of the time and Luka turned to her for emotional support quite a bit.
>>543998976This is why you'll never be a parent.
The cuddling picture is complete. Seems Setouchi went for "not lewd" instead of "accidentally lewd" of the options I gave him.And it is amazing. This picture soothes me. Though possibly that has something to do with having had a bad day at work. Regardless, I'm sure we can all agree it's cute.
>>544000246It's not absurdly dumb and preachy so I guess it's less memorable
>>544000246It's funny that Paradox is that way to the VN, while Shrift 1 ended with basically everything Paradox was going to end with. And Shrift 2 is having this same shadowed by its predecessor problem.
>>544001049stop cuddling angels
>>544001336People don't talk much about Shrift because the game is old and the art and furries scare off new player. People who already played it talked enough about it or don't want to bother mentioning it to bring pointless debates on the same points, then from time to time some player comes knowing the game only for the genocide route, tries to do a genocide run first thing then gets pissed when Iron Maiden kicks his ass or when the run gets automatically aborted.Shrift 2 has similar issue with the art and it's not fully translated. Some here also said they want to play the game when it's complete instead of episode by episode.
>>544001772Personally, the art was a big part of what made SHRIFT catch my eye to begin with, although with how much people complain about it I guess I'm in the minority there.
>>544001772Discussion doesn't equal memorable. It's like saying the most memorable things of Paradox is the Alice family or a random encounter bird because this general don't shut up about them.Imo Genocide route is kinda boring compared to EX4. I still remember quite a few of the jokes in it and the vibes of the first time playing it.
>>544001336Paradox Part 3 had a lot of retcons that made it feel kinda cheap, but I still loved it. MGQ is one of the best franchises when it comes to using power creep, factions, twists, and "fuck yeah" moments to make the antagonists seem threatening and keep things interesting. At the end, you're facing 16 calamities who've literally destroyed parallel worlds and who are pretty hard compared to the earlier bosses until you catch up with them. And I like the cast. Luka feels like his old self in the final route. Everything is memorable. Although it was so long that even though I look back on it fondly, I was more than ready to be done by the time I actually beat it.>>544001772Shrift was intense. You were locked in a warzone, Resident Evil style. And then the post-game was unconventional and crazy.Shrift 2 is just kinda meandering.
>>543998501>That doesn't fix Hiruko at all.What CAN fix Hiruko?
>>544002948A ring of sustenance
>>544002948Diet suppressors.
>>544002432EX4 was something special. It does feel like the author was going all out and enjoying getting to cross over with other games and put his favorite MGQ characters in. The best part is it feels it goes the other way around. The dev actually made CGs for Paradox and some of the dialogue makes me think he actually was very involved in making sure his characters were faithful. I was bummed when the other characters reused art for the most part.I also like the humor a lot. Shrift humor is pretty out there, even if overshadowed by other aspects. The Yukkuri joke and Amira warning the players she doesn't have H-scenes in her game actually made me laugh.
>>544002948Gene-modding that gets rid of calamity genes, she still probably eat people, but not as often. Also, probably lose the excuse for her actions so she can properly get punished if she acts out of line.
>>544001049I love Eden!
>>543944945This is how foxes win
Only now do I notice that Lucifina has the same pointy strands of hair at the top of her head as Luka.
>>544002543There were only two big retcons as far as I'm aware of, with one of them being mostly handwaved by saying it was due to a unreliable narrator.
>stoic, mind-reading non-waifu monster girlSP's execution made the sex scenes tolerable. The girl isn't talking to herself or just moving on her own. Both the characters and audience get to remain on the same page. I'm gonna miss that.
>>544014342They altered the whole origin story of the universe. It used to be that Ilias and Alice were the first two sapient lifeforms. Alice created the monsters and Ilias created the angels and then raised the humans from monkeys. Then Ilias got jealous that humans were fucking Alice's creations and went to war with her. And they also significantly softened the personalities of most of the 6 ancestors, which breaks Tamamo's origin story. And kinda kills the idea that makai is the SMT chaos world; it's actually safer than the main Paradox world in most regions. And it makes one of the major factions (the one that people were definitely hyped for) feel kinda directionless. Those are the two major ones, but they're extremely major.The only reasons why these were changed were because Toro wanted the potential for another sequel and he realized that making the six ancestors despicable would make people hate them when they're supposed to want to help them. Even the most despicable, Kanon, is a dumb mall rat who can easily be made nice by convincing her that it'll make her popular.
>>544015835Can't really retcon something that was never elaborated on. We didn't know who the Ancestors were outside of Tamamo, and it wasn't until Part 3 that we saw what they really were.Tamamo being a mass murderer was never retconned, but we got more context on it. She did it during the great war, which isn't so shocking when all the other major players were mass murderers too.Also, MW was never described as a war torn hellhole. You can't use beta profiles like Kanade's as proof of a retcon when it was never implemented in the first place.
>>544004178a thing to tie the both together is the endgame of shrift and mgq is lovecraftian monsters and lolis usually the same thing
>>544016763lucifina's profile is definitely feels like it always would have been a red herring as she doesnt seem like the type to lose her shit cuz she was covered in monster blood but the prospect of it affecting her soul like angel blood did heinrich's could have been fascinating if they ever decided to do that.
>>543972110>>543979560Why does she dress like a harlot?
>>544016763Outside of the origin story of Ilias/Alice, the only other big retcon was the monster lord's line one. Michaela explicitly said that Fat Alice made seven creations, with the first one being the OG monster lord.This of course was retroactively retconned, but isn't as glaring as the origin story, since the game just said that the seventh creation was real, but it was Koron. The reason why Michaela was also strangely ignorant, was because she was as misinformed as everyone else, due to the Alice's messy burying of Koron's existence.Frankly, TrTr really could have cleaned up the retcon of the origin story better. He could technically still do it, since we really don't have much info on that time period.
>>544020383there is still 7 creations however. because of one edgy dorky fightaholic hey its me goku dragon
>>544021273Yes, but it wasn't the OG ML as Michaela described her. Saja was most likely not Alice's ancestor when TrTr developed the VN, and it only happened during the development of Paradox. And it was also a pretty early one too, since Saja being the new OG ML was heavily hinted at in Part 1. But like I said, it was a retcon that was relatively smooth, and didn't contradict things.
Why, though?
>>544015835Ilias and Alice being the first two sapient lifeforms is still a thing, no? I thought they just existed after whatever big bang occured and drifted through space, landing on MGQ earth. I guess they wouldn't first sapent lifeforms on the planet, but still the first ones to exist in all of creation, at least for the 9th universe. Unless I'm getting something wrong.
>>544022393I wouldn't tattoo my body, but if I had to choose this is better than the generic flower or tribal patterns most people pick. People who don't know about Shiki will think it's just a cool fox woman and those who do won't complain.
>>544023727That is correct, even in the VN, Ilias did say they already found life on the planet, i.e. dinos and other prehistoric life, and they did were not creation goddesses, just manipulators of life. The big retcon was really the human origin, since it came off as humans as we know them were always the first step in Ilias' plan, nothing about some ancient, super matriarchally tribe called the Alfs.
I think the retcon about why the great monster war started was necessary. If Illias is just this onthologically evil super asshole then there's no real argument between Alice and Illias, Alice would have just been objectively the better person. I'm honestly suprised that they kept the angel experiment's backstory from the monsterpedia, though. Given that was one of the other examples of naked unearned cruelty
>>544024197That I get. The whole Alf thing came out of left field, at least in my eyes. I'm fine with concept of fighting an ancient ancestral human foe as a calamity, Adam and Eve type of deal, but the whole Alf thing was kinda a let-down. I do however blame my head canon/theory ruining my enjoyment. I imagined the reason Ilias hates succubi with a greater fevor compared to other monster girls was because Alice mutated one of her original set of humans, with Minagi (The Lilith Stand In) being said human.Purely headcanon, but it at least explained(To me at least) why vampires/succubi look so human or why they're a cosplay tier monster girl and also sorta explain how Purple Sabbath came to be. I didn't however expect the demonic parasite deal with 7 deadly sins to explain how vampires came to be.
>>544026296On that note, it's kind of funny to me how everyone naturally assumes that one of the reasons why Illias started the Great Monster War was due to illias disliking the ancestors attacking and hurting humanity. It's a reasonable thing to assume and something even I thought would be obviously true but Illias never seemed to care about the ancestors much at all aside from being extensions of her sister that she hates. It's odd.
>>544026889>>544026296It's ultimately the result of TrTr just not giving us any real concrete info on this kind of age of legends period where Ilias and Fat Alice both ruled the world together.What we get did however, gave us a picture of a world that was actually kind of good. Human civilization was much more diverse, and more numerous. Humans were developing magic and technology that was utterly lost in the modern period, until the Tartarus gates opened. And the relationship between Humans and the gods sounded much more close and intimate.Ilias starting the war because human and monstergirl relationship is bad, never really made sense.
All of this is cope, and I think that you both know it is. He realized that he was permanently closing the book on his cash cow and introduced a number of plotlines that could keep it going. I still enjoyed it, so I won't be too hard on him, but that's what it was.>You're just reading into things that weren't explained.We all know that this was his original intent because the VN portrayed the world as a primitive planet. Why would he do that if he didn't imagine a primitive planet?They also retconned the fact that the reason why Ilias cultivated humans was because the angels were just copies of herself, which made her lonely and jealous of Alice's ability to create something from nothing. Alice had power over creation while Ilias had power over the spirit. This framing suggests that Alice's power over creation is just as magical as Ilias's power over the spirit. That's gone. Now both Ilias and Alice are just genetically modifying existing species and Ilias held back because she was afraid of creating something that could become stronger than herself. Again, that's how it was portrayed in the VN, and trying to say that it wasn't elaborated on is cope.
>>544028295>Ilias starting the war because human and monstergirl relationship is bad, never really made sense.I really don't find it that out there given how much the ancestors were implied to be killing people and mucking up the place given what we see of them. Illias generally not caring about that at all seems odd. You really would think the ancestors needed SOMETHING to keep them in check or else the world would have just been monster world before the great war>>544028708Paradox is far too autistic and far too large to be a cynical cash grab. The simple answer is just that long term story plotting is hard and Trtr had a vauge outline but had to mess with some stuff to make the story fit
>>544029154Ilias wanted her fat sister to rule with her, even after the mopey snake ripped her oldest daughter's heart out, and created Hiruko afterwards. Ilias did not care about the ancestors, just that her sister was not accepting her duty as a diligent goddess.We also have no clue what the Ancestors or even the three Seraphs were doing at time between that really long period of time from Ilias first creating humans/Promestein giving the fire, and the start of the Great Monster War.Even in the VN, this great war is actually closer to the modern year, it was not some long distant war from hundreds of thousands years back.
>>544029154Making decisions that put money and/or fan reactions first and creating no-effort slop aren't necessary synonymous.He obviously deliberately retconned a few things from what he had planned originally. Again, that doesn't make it a bad game. You can think that the game is good and still acknowledge that he almost definitely changed the personalities of the six ancestors because he realized that everyone would hate them (it might even ruin one of the most popular and important characters, Tamamo, because you'd be spending a lot of time with her back when she was a mass-murdering psycho) and he almost definitely changed the origin story in order to make it easier to continue the story.
>>544029979Oh I entirely agree that he retconned things, anon. I'm one of the people most mad about how paradox tamamo ended up in part 3 because of it. I just disagree with > He realized that he was permanently closing the book on his cash cow and introduced a number of plotlines that could keep it going.Even in the post part 3 QnA he was saying stuff that would be relevant in paradox. The VN itself was honestly extremely light on story and characterization. So I can see why Trtr needed to fiddle with things to fit it into a game where the story is much more of the focus and much deeper. Also while we're on the topic of retcons, Alma got her personality basically entirely overhauled between the VN and Paradox. In the VN she's mostly just generic murderwhore whereas Paradox entirely recontextualizes that and almost entirely removes the murderwhore tendencies outside of dubiously canon request scenes
>>544029721>Ilias did not care about the ancestors, just that her sister was not accepting her duty as a diligent goddess.I know that, and said as much in my original comment. I'm saying I understand why people *thought* that Illias heavily disliked the ancestors and they, at least in part, pushed her to do things. It honestly kind of diminishes their presence when Lucifina is this massive force both as a character and as a force for the narrative and the ancestors themselves are just kinda there, almost entirely self contained
>>544030870I really think TrTr should go back, and try to fill in the gaps so these retcons would be more seamless, and not just contradict Ilias' last message so blatantly.And he can do it. That is the thing about ancient history lore in fiction. When there is so few people who actually witnessed, and experienced it, you can work around the little info we actually got.Also, come on now. Alma was not just a murder whore in the VN. It's made clear she did follow Alice's command at playing defensive, not offense. Luka being a hero of Ilias puts him on the shit list, and for good reason, since he can/does kill her lord at the end of Part 2.>>544031117Lucifina wasn't sealed away, which is the reason why Tamamo is also such a important figure in the lore as well.
>>544031882>does…..you know that’s not canon right
>>544032141That is the thing about multiverses, the coin will fall on the opposite side you get in some AU.
>>544031882>Luka being a hero of Ilias puts him on the shit list, and for good reason, since he can/does kill her lord at the end of Part 2.No offense anon but this feels like cope. Luka was both unblessed and literally hanging out with the monster lord being chummy and Alma still elected to kill him. Also her monsterpedia entry makes no distinction that she "only kills heroes" just that she kills men after squeezing them. Also pretty much everyone in here bitched about her being a murderwhore in this thread for years, lmao. At least until the lillith sisters did worse.
>>544034017Alma is implied to be so giga horny too that if she showed up to succubus village she'd pull a lillith sister herself, which doesn't really line up much with how we see her in paradox. Wherein yeah she's horny but she's pretty restrained about it compared to other succs.
>>544030870>In the VN she's mostly just generic murderwhoreWhile I agree that the VN doesn't develop Alma much, I still remember it making it very clear that a generic murderwhore was the one thing Alma never wanted to be. While the monsterpedia does say that she takes pride in being a succubus, the VN still implies that some part of it is due to her feeling it's what she should do rather than what she wants to do. The monsterpedia also says that she dryfishes people, but it clashes with the rest of her characterization both in and out of the monsterpedia since I doubt that she dryfishes any men in the colosseum. My best guess is that her first entry is either specifically referring to men she drains with her tail or it's outright lying. On a meta level, it's probably just intended to introduce succubi as a whole instead of being a fully accurate entry on Alma.
>>544036789>I still remember it making it very clear that a generic murderwhore was the one thing Alma never wanted to beAs far as I remember it, this is mostly an invention of paradox. There was some stuff there what with her being into martial arts, but that was treated more like a joke subverting what you think a succubus queen would be like than a serious identity crisis that put her at odds with her mother like in paraodx
>>544036789This is the same encyclopedia that calls the four bandits a bunch of super rapists. I really don't know just how much is propaganda, or actual reality with these things.Paradox makes it even weirder, since we still have the same entries that describe certain monsters as nothing, but deranged rapists, but we see them just acting normally in human towns.
>>544034853From what I remember the only mention of Alma going to the village in the VN was in regards to stopping the spell going on and it wasn't Alma doing anything it's just if she showed up while that spell was going on all the men would be sent into horny overdrive.
>>544037250>we see them just acting normally in human townsSo you're saying for a monster raping is a normal as eating bread? I knew it! That dog girl was raping me with her eyes when she said hello yesterday!
>>544037743No that's what i'm referring to. But the rationale is that alma herself is so horny and libidnous that it would kill everyone via the barrier. Whereas in her paradox characterization she's FAR less horny than most of the other succ characters. Eva of all people was far hornier than Alma and she's the one that made the barrier
>>544037128it’s at the tail end of Part 3 after she pummels the robot sent to kill her; Alma has an internal monologue about her mother and how harsh her upbringing was, and her mom outright called her a disgrace because Alma preferred (or was just more skilled in) physical violence to traditional succ behavior. It’s definitely not something that was being done as a joke.Keeping in mind that Alma’s one of trtr’s favorites (if not the outright favorite) and Alma’s life in Paradox significantly expanding on this part of her to fully flesh out who she is makes logical sense. Her Mom’s even played more seriously there, rather than less, with Alma being not just outraged but downright offended by her Mother abandoning her and her duties to turn herself into a human and live out her days with some guy after all that talk about how Succubi are the master race and how she has to have the pride of being a Succubus and needs to do it the right way. Alma even explicitly says at one point that she’s never felt free from her Mother, and a lot of her behavior comes across as her trying to escape or rebel against the influence of her Mom but feeling unable to do so in hindsight. This is even the reason she wants to punch Minagi in the face so badly that she tells Luka she hopes he sided with Ilias, because to her Minagi is the representation of everything her Mother is and stands for and beating the crap out of her is a stand-in for venting her frustrations with her Mom.which is probably why Alma is so shocked and caught off-guard when after she says her only ‘master’ is just some old book she found on martial arts that she practiced 24/7/365, Minagi reveals that she’s actually the one who wrote that book, so by technicality SHE is Alma’s “master” and then she proceeds to completely wipe the floor with her without breaking a sweat.
>>544037964It's been a very long time but I thought it was just in regards to her natural sex appeal as in her looks.
>>544025569People back in the VN days would complain a lot about how Alice was treated as perfect (by her descendant) while Ilias was treated as always wrong and evil, so I'm not surprised it got changed either.
>>544039245huh, I guess the stuff about alma's mom actually was in the OG VN now that I look at it. Still think Alma's autism about being queen succubus is odd because there's realistically nothing stopping her from either stopping being queen succubus or just redefining what it means herself. I really think we needed to see Alma interact with some more orthodox succubi because as it stands I really don't get why she cares so much about their opinion
>>544039979No matter how much it got fleshed out, Ilias still threw the first punch, and started an apocalyptic war that almost saw everything she and her sister fought for go straight into the inferno.Fat Alice was a terrible mother, goddesses, and warlord, but her contribution to the shit state the world is in, is still less than her crazy sister.
>>544037250Pretty sure it was said somewhere that the monsterpedia is intentionally meant to be biased propaganda, just like the whole MGE it's inspired by is.
>>544040683which, to go back to an earlier topic, is why most people like to think that the ancestors going completely off the leash and fucking things up contributed to it. Like sure, it's mostly because Illias is mad at her sister but you can still have a decent reason for the war>>544040881I've heard the claim constantly that the monsterpedia is supposed to be propaganda but i've seen no claim other than the circumstantial evidence that it doesn't line up with some monsters, despite the fact that it lines up with a lot of other monsters that do in fact do exactly what it describes.
>>544041063>but i've seen no claim other than the circumstantial evidence that it doesn't line up with some monstersThat's all you need to establish it as an unreliable narrator, which means you can't treat it as fact out of hand.
>>544040683It was mentioned that the war was started because of Illias, but Illias threw the punch after the monsters wouldn't stop attacking the humans and killing them. Like no matter how you put that, that's still a defensive war
>>544041293Sure, but i'm talking specifically about the claim of it being propaganda, when that doesn't really make sense as a lot of the time it's not much of an exaggeration when it essentially just describes what each monster does to luka in their H-scene. Even with stuff like the bandits it makes sense if you're thinking about it like an out of universe thing that just describes what the monster does and what their H scene is like
>>544041423That was never established, even in the VN.Ilias' beef was always with her sister, it's why when she finally started to become a chaos god, she condemned her sister, and made a promise to kill her when she frees her from the prison.Also, what little info we have about that period when Ilias and Fat Alice ruled together did not paint it as some nightmarish hellhole were monsters killed and ate everyone.
>>544041742Well, the period where fat alice and illias ruled together, monsters didn't exist outside of the ancestors. When people rationalize that monsters attacking humans affected illias' decision to declare on her sister, people are referring to when fat alice became a recluse after the death of koron, and not before.
How far along is the part 3 translation now? I see from the commit history they made it to>Second Camp Scene (Alice Route)how far along in part 3 is that? (Haven't played any of course)
You know at a certain point you really have to start wondering why all the people in positions of power seem to have either terrible upbringings or awful parentsSalamander was a good mom to Granberia at least, but she's also adopted and grew up eating boars and weeds>>544040074the thing that's stopping Alma isn't autism, it's a mental block caused by the rigorous indoctrination that her mother put her through. You could say it's trauma, I'm not sure if that's the best word to describe it, but her mom's efforts to forcibly mold her into the 'ideal queen succubus' is the reason why Alma has such a narrow specific view of what it's supposed to be and why she's incapable of altering it. Her various pseudonyms and alternate identities are her way of coping with how the 'queen succubus' is supposed to only be x/y/z, because if she's "Kyuba" or somebody else, then Alma isn't technically the 'queen' at the moment. This is also the reason why she's so insulted by her mom suddenly deciding one day to completely 180 on all of her beliefs and abandon her life to turn into a human due to the flagrant hypocrisy, meaning that she basically did all of this to Alma for nothing.Alma does interact with plenty of normal Succubi throughout Paradox though, but she seems to believe the Mayor is a superior choice for the leader of the village over herself (which is probably true, Alma's never going to be capable of wrangling them the way the Potato Lord can), and Alma's desire for external validation is not exclusive to other succubi because ultimately the problem is just her wanting her mother's love and validation despite her resentment of them.
Also can I say that I'm glad that we can have a reasonable discussion and I deeply appreciate you anons. Sorry for jinxing it if I do
>>544042464It just feels like a weird way to take "Tiger mom gives child an extremely strict and hostile upbringing" Usually what happens is the second the kid gets freedom, they do the opposite of what their parents taught them to do in order to exorcise their new-found freedom. But alma is just acting like her mom is siting right there behind her 24/7 no matter what
>>544042184Humans didn't exist until after Koron was killed, and we know they actually did worship Fat Alice too.There is a giant gap in history we just don't have much info on. That being what happened after Koron's death, and the before the start of the Great Monster War. What we do know is humans had far more civilizations than they did now, they also were progressing in magic and technology, and had more diverse cultures than the monoculture of Ilias worship, with some off brand Shinto shit in Yamatai.
>>544042464>>544042836The bigger problem for me is that her natural character arc would be to overcome this blockage and truly embrace being herself, but she just never does. Learning Minagi isn't the ultimate source of all her problems doesn't modify her behavior, she's still compartmentalizing all of her real interests and hobbies and acting like the Queen Succubus has to be this other thing with rules she's beholden to by no one.
>>544042904which is weird, because one of the few things we do know about that time is that the ancestors were completely unchecked and at the bare minimum Tamamo and Minagi, before she reeled herself in, killed a lot of people. It feels odd to most people that the narrative establishes this and then seems to have it not affect anything in the narrative at all so having Illias react to it is a rationalization of that gap
>>544043212>>544042904Maybe after Koron was killed and Alice went into depression and stopped wrangling her kids, did the monsters start their attack and that ticked off Illias since Alice was doing nothing and caused the war?
>>544043947Well yes, this is what people rationalize to be the case as it makes sense. But Illias herself never once even sort of implies that the ancestors bother her that much at all and she places the blame of the great monster war solely for her sister ghosting her. So there's just this weird gap in the narrative where we know some if not all of the ancestors were mass murdering people but no one gives a shit and it didn't matter
>>544043212The only one who is mentioned at being a mass murderer is Tamamo as far as I remember, and it can be argued she only did it during the war, since her antagonistic dialogue with Ilias as a companion in Grangold seems to imply it.We have no idea what Babylon was like when they apparently worshipped Minagi. For all we know, they could have been an advanced culture, that really emphasized on the importance of lewdness and sex. Kind of like an ancient version of Pornoff.
>>544044253you would assume that Tamamo would bring it up at some point if her going full shiki was only a product of the monster wars and not what she just was before she got sealed. That being said, even if it's not explicitly said, I think you can pretty easily rationalize Kanon, Mabufudyne, and ESPECIALLY Hiruko were killing a lot of people. Also it doesn't really make much sense narratively for Minagi to not be a dryfisher before she learned self control, there's not really much to self control at that point
>>544044697I agree anon, but we just don't know. The only characteristics of the Ancestors comes from their depiction in MW. And outside of Hiruko, all of them have a degree of self-control. Even Kanon, twisted and psychotic that she is, keeps her hobbies hidden from public eyes, and her stooges says it's not a daily thing either, but something that helps her reduce stress, and fight boredom.Until TrTr finally explores this time period, all we can do is guess.
>>544042836it's honestly the more realistic implementation of the horrendously strict and hostile tiger mom. Alma WANTS to do the opposite thing, she WANTS to be herself, and do all the things she actually enjoys and cares about doing, but her mom has scarred her to the point that Alma ultimately feels like she CAN'T do those things, because if she does, then she's a failure and a disgrace. She tries to anyway by hiding under different names and pretending to be someone else, and that's when she's truly happy, but at the core of it Alma is simply incapable of being able to fundamentally alter what it means to be the Queen Succubus because of both her indoctrination and her belief of expectation from everybody else around her and the idea she'll be mocked or ridiculed for doing so.Not helping matters is that despite how Alma would rather be anything else other than the Succubus Queen, she's unable to avoid her duties even when she's actively trying to shirk them. She didn't even want to be a heavenly knight, as it was revealed that she was signed up for the contest by somebody else against her will, which is probably why she tried to just "oops, well look at that I lost gg" as soon as possible only to end up getting PROMOTED to Heavenly Knight for it instead of just being allowed to leave. And when she does try to quit in Paradox she's hunted for treason.>>544043201She does eventually manage to get to that point (even if her scenes won't get rewritten), but by the third route even after she managed to reach this conclusion she's STILL trapped because Minagi's become completely obsessive over being her 'Master' and she's promoted even further up and forced to do a bunch of middle management stuff like paperwork. She's basically turned into another version of Alma's mom that she's incapable of escaping from now, and she practically begs Luka to get her away from them.
>>544047508I don't really think it's all that realistic at all. Alma's behavior only makes sense to me if she was still living with her mom and constantly being abused by her. Everyone I've seen and known that gets away from a strict mom like that growing up immediately goes full wild.
>>544047508>She does eventually manage to get to that pointAt no point does Alma announce to the world that this artist, musician, poet, and martial artist are all actually her and she's going to do that stuff openly and unashamed.
Coexistence is nothing but a scam, A succubus broke into my home and claimed that she was haunting me, she would tease me, eat my food and cook, sleep in my bed and steal my semen. She then suggested I go and find an Angel, so I did, she said she was an expert at dealing with Succubi, but she said she was going to train me to do it. At first it was with endurance training and strength training, but afterwards it started turning into Holy Kisses and the Succubus started attacking me with Hellish kisses, they just take turns in my bed attacking me. I woke up early as they made breakfast and heard them talking like they were old friends, I'm sure something is up and they're working together
>>544042443About mid way through her route, more or less. Maybe around 1/8 of part 3 as a total if you consider Alice's route to be 1/4, Ilias' route to be 1/4, and Chaos route to be 1/2. That's just a rough estimate though. Could be closer to 1/7 assuming Alice and Ilias' routes are more text dense. If you want to play it any time soon, your best bet would be using bob mtl.
>>544045273We also have no clue as to what Ilias' grand vision of the world was either. Only that she and her fat sister would be at the top of the pecking order, as the only gods. For all we know, she would have had no problem with the Ancestors being giant cunts, if it means keeping the humans in check, and forcing them in a perpetual state of a pre-industrial era where their worship and devotion to the two gods determined their happiness.
>>544047721Some people go wild, some people don't. Even if they go wild in their newfound freedom, a lot of times it'll just creep back up on them in one way or another once they settle down.
>>544048040An angel drains the hero's balls to help keep him calm and serene for his journey to conquer the vile succubus who's made some random nearby ruins her lair. The succubus drains his balls as he corrects her naughty behavior and then sends him back home where the angel waits to welcome him back by, you guessed it, draining his balls.
>>544048040Be careful, looks may be deceiving. What looks like an angel might be a demon trying to fool you.
>>544048013>At no point does Alma announce to the world that this artist, musician, poet, and martial artist are all actually herah, ok fair enough yeah she doesn't get that far (at least that we've seen), but she does stop caring about what it means to be the queen.My point is just that ultimately (and unfortunately for her) Alma's arc is turned into a moot point, because by the time the world has merged this literally doesn't matter anymore as Minagi has turned into "Alma's Mom+" and she will not leave her alone. Although now that I think about it, unlike a lot of the other 'main characters' Alma's actually shown to be traumatized by her past death like the majority of the people around the world were so she might not even be able to enjoy all-out brawls as much as she used to anymore.>>544047721Almost everybody I've seen or known who grew up like that has problems that stay with them similar to Alma regardless of if they 'go wild' or not. Especially regarding parental validation. I'd argue Alma does 'go wild' in that sense when she's doing all the things she thinks she's not supposed to or allowed to do, but she's just doing it in disguise so it isn't traced back to her and it's more a coping mechanism for her other problems, which is generally what the actual reason this happens is.
>>544047721Nah there are also people who end up being broken by their parents and basically live as soulless automatons built around their parents' expectations while seething inside forever. That or burnout and become neets/hobos. You just don't notice it as often because you're not going to pick up that these people are tormented inside unless you're one of the few people they open up to, whereas the ones who rebel and go completely wild are obvious to everyone.
>>544052564>>544051671Everything is a lie, One speaks to my left ear telling me its okay to fall down into temptation and ravage her and the other tells me to be strong and surrender to their embrace
>>544055474yeah, given Alma is trying to hide all this stuff about her past, she's definitely in that former group (internally seething). In the VN it's shown through inner monologuing and the only person who's around is the metal weapon that she pummels to death with her bare hands. In Paradox, the only person she truly opens up to about this is Luka, and even then a lot of the deeper details are shown through her POV rather than in a conversation with him so she doesn't tell him everything.
Mommy issues is quite pandemic among the monster girl population. It's even worse than abandonment issues, which you would think would be the main psychological problem facing monsters do to how wide spread it is.
>>544057862Thinking about it, I guess what really annoyed me about it is instead of the usual of being forced to become a doctor or a lawyer she's "forced" to commit murder and be an asshole. Finding any excuse for alma's actions felt kind of shallow and "well her mom was mean to her" felt extra shallow to explain her murderwhoring. I do like how paradox just doesn't really have her really attack luka in the first place so her murderwhore tendencies just dont really exist at all
>>544059175But you are admitting that since she only attacks Luka in the VN, which means she isn't a wide spreading murderwhore.
>>544059374Basically all of our encounters with alma aside from the colloseum, which is a specific cope identity, is a 1 one 1 interaction with luka
>>544059175>her mom was mean to herand>her mom had her entire childhood and adolescence be spent in bootcamp to mold her into this and then abandoned heraren't really the same thing. that's severely downplaying what actually happened.It's not like a traditional "my parent doesn't support me and they're a jerk" scenario, she's been mentally conditioned to be like this. And when you put it that way it makes her Mom come across as even worse, since her Mother basically had her own daughter forcibly conditioned to turn into a "murderwhore" against her will because she didn't approve of her as a succubus and then suddenly ditched all her justifications behind why she did that just to disown her anyways and turn into a human.The saving grace is that at the very least Alma isn't as big of a "murderwhore" as her mother tried to force her to be, because even when she's presenting herself as Alma, she doesn't go around and indiscriminately kill people. It's very specifically if the other person recognizes her for who she is as the Succubus Queen, and then challenges her knowing this anyway, because then her mental conditioning kicks in to have her kill them.It's kind of sad, but she does seem to get over this one part of it at least.Even if trtr won't rewrite any of her scenes to reflect it.
Mommy issues are nothing... It's fathers who leave their families behind that are the worst.
>>544059020Outside of Gob, the other three bandits were tossed into the wild by their mothers. Papi quite literally has no idea who her mother is, making it seems like the moment she popped out of the vagina, her mother just left in the wild.I was going to say why they do this, but then I remember that Fat Alice did this the moment her big mistake got erased, and she left her remaining kids to learn life lessons without her. It's pretty much monster tradition.
>>544062431out of all monster girls, dragon girls are some of the most autistic we've ever seen,and that's saying something. Expecting an infant to immediately defend for themselves and win is just par for the course for Koron's descendants
>>544062431>raise their children with love>even turned out to have a daycare for their kids to meet and play with each otheronce again, harpies are based
>>544063005It turns out NOT abandoning your children is a shockingly effective parenting strategy.
>>544059175>>544061404Yeah, no. I don't really buy into this kind of moral rationalizing when we're talking about killers. When I see a dryfishing evil succubus, I'm not looking at her thinking stuff like>I wonder what kind of life made this creature decide to devour humansInstead, I think>AAAAIIIIEEEE MY PEEPEE TINGLES AAAAAA I'M GONNA CUM CUM CU- *dies*
>>544062431Wasn't it also mentioned that the imps were abandoned and that monsters sometimes chase off or attempt to kill their own children?
>>544065478I wouldn't call Alma "evil" by any stretch of the imagination.Yes, plenty of succubi are flat characters and openly shameless evil murderers. There is not exactly a shortage of them. No one is going to try and look for depth in Myusca, because it's kind of obvious that there is none and that defeats the entire point of her. There's many of them in MGQ as it is even.That's just not what Alma is and it kind of misses the point of her since her problem is essentially summed up as everybody wanting her to be that or thinking she has to be that.
TD had a livestream to prepare for the half-anniversary that's coming up in the next week, and they had some player research done behind the scenes and decided to share the results. Among them they had several focused on the Monster Girls with the main one being "Who is the Monster Girl that is placed as the favorite on someone's profile the most", excluding the default option unless she was specifically selected for (which was Suzu the Pegasus) and counting different costumes for the same girl as the one unit instead of tallying them individually like actual alts are.Turns out that amongst all the players who decide to choose a favorite, Number One is actually Selene the Dragon Girl. Who beat out Rin, Rin's comically overpowered anniversary alt, Lulu (who's apparently topped all three popularity polls that were held as the #1 every time) and the Iron Golem. Given a lot of the playerbase seems to be people who came in early and stuck around, I'm honestly impressed.Hilariously enough, I did check through all the other results, and if you only look for the MGQ units then Alice and Alma Elma show up in exactly the same order they did in the original japanese popularity poll and I'm forced to assume that if Tamamo was not paygated then the pattern would've followed suit. To my surprise Alice even cracked into the top twenty and landed at #15.
>>544067452Alice and Alma forever the most popular (understandable why Tamamo ranked lower here)
>>544066638Which ones? In the Singularity world during part 1 and 2, there doesn't seem to be a overly evil succubus, and it wasn't until the collab that we got some evil shitters like SP trio.Part 3, that is a different story. Eva's goons are definitely evil succubi shitters, but we do a 180 with Minagi's followers who aren't evil shitters.
>>544067452I'm guess that the 2nd and 3rd collab event girls of MGQ didn't do so hot? Or did some of them get high on the list even when coming out far later than the 1st collab girls?
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>>544070260I loveNot many cases. And is captcha slow and barely working for everyone else as well?
>>544067660Yeah I think that old poll is probably still accurate>>544067967>I'm guess that the 2nd and 3rd collab event girls of MGQ didn't do so hot?They only showed the top 65, and among those, only three of them are from MGQ. The vast majority of favorites are the older OG Monster Girls from here, so considering they have to compete with them, I'm impressed there's more than two.The third girl was Erubetie (who is #50, Alma's at #26), which is surprising given she was 23rd in the original MGQ poll, even with a lot of her competition being cut out and Tamamo getting cash gated. However, given "the Prince" is a bigger shota than Luka and what Erubetie's entire schtick is, I'm guessing the reason behind this is that more of the overseas audience who play this are into Erubetie's absurdly huge shotacon fetish than the wider MGQ audience was and the game favored her as a result.I'm also of the belief that either most people who played for the MGQ collabs are VN!Alice fans or that most players who did like the MGQ cast still went with one of TD's native girls as their favorite. In general it seems like the later a girl was added the more competition they have, so it's harder for them to climb the ladder. Almost the entirety of the top twenty are either OG/Launch Day girls or alts of them, with only two collab girls as exception to this (one being Alice) and the number of girls on this list who released in the past couple of years can probably be counted on one hand.In an incredibly hilarious coincidence however, guess which particular native Monster Girl who only has two alts just so happened to have BOTH of them land directly next to a MGQ Girl?I didn't contribute to this either as my Favorite Girl Choice is Lucretia.But I do think it's really funny.I did however contribute to Okyuu's placements in the other results, where she's 8th place on "which girl is trained to maximum level and used in battle the most".
>>544049308>she would have had no problem with the Ancestors being giant cunts, if it means keeping the humans in check, and forcing them in a perpetual state of a pre-industrial era where their worship and devotion to the two gods determined their happiness.HEINRICH BRING THE ANGEL HALO
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>>544071032Heinrich would not have been able to stop her. No one could, outside interference from FoC and his daughter.An Ilias/Alice 1st co-ruled world would be a pretty bad for a human, since that tyranny would be eternal.
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>>544071105I did have capcha server issues for a bit there
>>544067452ok so on the other hand>Lulu (who's apparently topped all three popularity polls that were held as the #1 every time)turns out that the prize for being the uncontested popularity poll champion three times running is ascending to kami statusthey turned her into a beast god>>544070525>>544075448same here, I'm assuming it's server wide and that's why the thread stalled at page nine for a little bit therehopefully it's not an ill omen
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