Fat edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATehttps://monkposter.github.io/community.htmlPrevious: >>543020153>Thread QuestionShould gameplay account for your character model?
>>543098591my character shouldn't have a model, its stats are better as an abstract thoughtform
How much longer until The Dresden Files game?
>>543098591>Should gameplay account for your character model?It should, and it sort of does in some games (larian), but it's not really about your body tyoe, but about your race - manlets can get through crawlspaces tall races couldn't for example. I want more than that. Fat models should play different from lanklets
40k is the worst setting in all of media. If you like 40k you are subhuman. If you paint the little gay figurines your life has no value besides mindless consumerism. If you buy 40k figurines you do not deserve to share oxygen with other humans.
>>543098782How will you kiss dollies if you don't have a body?
Tolkien replica fans are mad today
40k fans have never presented an argument for why their alphabet soup setting isn’t worthless dogshit. They cannot accept that they paint gay little figures from a setting that has no value.
40k fans refuse to accept that their setting is dogshit. Every other setting has fans that are willing to talk about their setting’s flaws.
>>543098984We are all mad here
dogshit edition
>>543099149>>543099057>>543098924>>543099171JANNIES JANNIES JANNIES
>jannies please save meeeeeeeeeee40k fags really are worse than any other fanbases
>>543098980entering their mind palace
Rogue trader just seems to be a tech demo for dark heresy ngl.
You should only be allowed to make a character that correctly represents your body type. Fatties should look at their rolls of fat on the screen and be ashamed of being so ugly. Dollies should also refuse to kiss you if you're fatter than them
>>543099341I don't even understand the point of dark heresy. It's not an RPG is it? "Investigation" kinda implies something else since all RPG quests are already investigations.
Every 40k player would have to play as an obsessive dwarf that stutters around females
>>543099539You're RPGing an investigator investigating
>>543099539Well you're not doing rogue trading in the other game either, aren't you?
>>543099539Owlcat is finally dropping all pretenses and making the extremely convoluted puzzle-adventure game they've dreamed of, inspired by drinking paint thinner then playing LA Noire and reading 40K Codices back-to-back
>>543099539You work for the space FBI. The story hooks are investigating supernatural crimes and criminal organizations, rather than just looking for treasure, though occasionally that does take place.
>>543099341Yeah 90% of Rt was driving Jimmy around while he investigated cults. The other half was playing whack-a-mole with genestealers.
>>543099762no I get that I meant I don't understand what makes the "investigations" here different from normal quests unless they're angling towards >>543099657
>>543099341Yeah, seems like they wanted to make a dark heresy game but someone told them that they need to make an rt game instead so they quickly churned out this shit out of the door to get back to making the game they wanted all along
Imagine painting ur little spacemen dolls and thinking they look fricken cool
>>543099856On the tabletop I think it call came down to the DM, and they were just normal quests basically.Owlcat do seem to have something else in mind. Where you can find anyone guilty and you don't have a "right or wrong" result, which makes sense really.
>>543099856The investigations are just a hook for you to do classic Owlcat RPG shit. You go to place, fight enemies you're probably overleveled for, press dialogue options, level up, and leave. This repeats until the game is over.
>>543099762The treasure is pussy
>>543060414That's just cleric
>>543099987nobody is going to take you seriously until you at least start typing properly honey
>>543100035Sometimes it's an STC for making sexbots
>>543099856>I don't understand what makes the "investigations"Nothing. It's going to be just regular quests where you talk to npcs and fight enemies, and have to pass an occasional perception check to see if the person is lying to you
>trust me elantach>leads me into an ambush>does it again in act 3Why is she like this? Its like the devs actively want me to kill her.
Does ttrpg of dark heresy use a similar character building and leveling system to rogue trader? Also how close was owlcats rogue trader to the ttrpgs rogue trader when it comes to that aspect?
>>543100008They are taking the Pentiment approach, which I appreciate, but I have zero reason to believe they will be able to pull it off as well as Pentiment did. More likely than not it will be just a game-long Abelard quest where there's obviously a guilty and innocent parties
>>543099149It is dogshit but I enjoy it.
>>543100227>Also how close was owlcats rogue trader to the ttrpgs rogue trader when it comes to that aspect?not very since only one person could play the Rogue Trader™ so there were classes for the other bridge crew.
>>543100192Rumour has it that she was supposed to just betray you and take you to funkytown but alpha players got upset so they tried to make her redeemable instead.
>>543100227>Does ttrpg of dark heresy use a similar character building and leveling system to rogue trader?First edition does. Second edition DH has a different system>Also how close was owlcats rogue trader to the ttrpgs rogue trader when it comes to that aspect?Not close at all. RT the vidya uses a homebrew system that is very loosely based on the tabletop system
>>543100415nah she was always """tricked"""
>>543100289You’re the only respectable 40k enjoyer that has replied to me. God bless you for being self aware.>>543100104>ur seething lil gay figurines painting fag
>>543100415Some say that in early planning there was going to be an evil clone of Yrliet and she was the one who tricked you. Then you had to choose between the real Yrliet or the fake one, each one saying she's real, and there would be consequences for that.That would account for the emphasis on cloning in Cumrag that didn't really go anywhere.
>>543100763Wow, that sounds 1000000 times better than whatever crap we got. Of course I'm sure they dropped that storyline the second the word "consequences" was voiced
>>543100763The evil clone thing just seems too cartoony.
>>543100909Yeah "consequences" just required more work than they felt like doing. They reused it a bit when Kibellah is getting bullied by her clones, and where you have to fight various clones of farseers
>>543101118auroravoiceline.wav
>kingmaker was a retelling of War and Peace>wrath was a retelling of The Death of Ivan Ilyich>rogue trader was a retelling of How Much Land Does a Man Need?Which Tolstoy book will dark heresy be a reimagining of?>Kingmaker was a retelling of The Brothers Karamazov>Wrath was a retelling of Demons>Rogue Trader was a retelling of The LandladyWhat Dostoyevsky book will Dark heresy be a retelling of? My Guess is Crime and punishment, the main twist villain will be corrupt chaos inquisitiors that you end up killing for their crimes.
>>543101265I'm sure this sounded very smart and profound in whatever youtube """"""essay"""""" you've lifted it from, but next time don't try to discuss books you haven't read. You make yourself look like an idiot
>>543101265>What Dostoyevsky book will Dark heresy be a retelling of?Notes From Underground
>>543100763I would applaud their daring if yrliclone ended up killing you 10 to 15 hours after you've made the choice, but modern developers just don't have the balls to do something like that
>>543101265Anon this is the third time you've used this bait.
>>543101638thats just Morinth 2
>>543101638You must think that's a very cool idea but that's just because you never experienced that. There's a reason this isn't done in RPGs.
>>543100763>Night in the Pit after your first arena battle>You get up to stretch your legs>"Come back to bed, Elantach" purrs the woman who calls herself Yrliet, and looks exactly like her >[Awareness: Success] Something is wrong. That was too easy.1) Let it go and rejoin her in bed2) Confront "Yrliet"3) Leave the Pit and look for the real Yrliet
40k more like 40gay AHAHAHAHA
>>543101761No, Morinth only kills you if you're retarded enough to fuck her. Yrliclone should eliminate you regardless>>543101812>noooooooooo i want to be coddled and always win even when making all the wrong decisions mommmmyyyyyyyyy
>>543101862Sounds like a shitty clone if it doesn't act like the real thing
>>543101938lets be real 95% of people playing these games would be retarded enough to hop in bed with an evil slutty Yrliet
>>543101938>that twist is bullshit obviously I, an independent thinker, would be able to foretell it if the game clued me in properly. this is obviously just bad writingI can already see it.
Owlsharts where is my wfrp game? I want vampire dollies
>>543102172>make a wrong decision>NOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING I AM THE BEEEEEEEST AND ALWAYS RIIIIIIIGHTLol, lmao. Don't make bad decisions then, scrub.
>>543102065Yeah I mean the consequences don't need to be an instant game overMaybe a series of unexplained sabotage incidents on your shipCulminating in her attacking you in bed during a warp jump>hehe you monkeigh are such easy preyThen the other guys run in to help you one after another, like when those daemonettes ambush youShe should be a pretty tough miniboss fight, like Yremeryss but a bit less so.
>>543102065I have no doubt. The meltdown would be fenomenal
>>543102039No one could have anticipated what a prude Yrliet was. So Tervantias gave her clone just a regular deldar personality and told her to act like a soft stupid craftworlder
>>543102459You know what would be cool? If having marazhai with you would save you from this outcome automatically. Finally a reason to have him around
>>543102345Nah, you'd just bitch about how it's bad writing and how you'd have to roll back 15 hours of play time fot it. You're an armchair writer.
Im just saying owlcat could learn some lessons from underrail like1.spacing and momentum should be the most impact full and important part of a turn based game2.the amount of damage an enemy can do is more important than stat bloating their health 3.in a turn based game if you have good range and crowd control abilities but the enemies dont the fights will always be easy4.if you dont have the resources to give your player alot of different items just add in a crafting system where you can make modified and/or better versions of the non-unique items you have5. A majority of feats/perks should be locked behind actual skill level and/or stat requirements, making a game were you can pick almost every perk from your class without any real requirements will definitely break the game balance
>>543102614>noooooooooooooo i'm an idiot who made bad dicisions but it is clearly bad writing waaaah waaahhh!! mommmnmmyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!Go back to playing match-3, scrub
>>543102584>You there! I can smell the stench of Tervantias's workbench on you>Mon-k.. Rogue Trader are you aware you have allowed a clone into your retinue?
>>543102647>5. A majority of feats/perks should be locked behind actual skill level and/or stat requirements,That's how it is in tabletop. Owlsharts just wanted to make their own system, and, well, we got what we got
>>543102718>he spent money on a gold account so he could trollSad
>>543102647>if you have good range and crowd control abilities but the enemies dont the fights will always be easyYeah there was maybe one occasion where an enemy sniper was a problem.
>>543102584Damn that would be good reactivityThe Saudis should put this gen in charge of planning for the reorganized Bioware.
I wish RT was written by this general. You come up with better plot-twists and c&c than """"""""""""""""""""""""""professional"""""""""""""""""""""""" writers that are getting paid for it
>>543102647Underrail is the only crpg with good combat. Every dev could learn from it.
Why did owlcat want to make there own system again? Is rogue traders ttrpg system really bad or hard to adapt into a videogame?
>>543102647>comparing solo vs party based RPGs>party of specialists vs a solo generalistThe problem is that you can specialize your party members to cover any situation. Underrail is a very controlled ecosystem where you have limited resources to to make sure your build is generalist enough to survive any situation the game throws at you, and you can't possibly cover all the skill checks. This is why Owlcat games are always so unbalanced.
>>543101638Only if she gets a good end where you can fix her as well.
>>543103560It's fine but they wanted more power fantasy. Rogue Trader ttrpg is pretty touch and not faceroll autowin.
>>543103702Yeah if you keep advancing her romance she comes to you with a confession>elantach I have something to tell you but you have to promise not to get madand confesses that she's not really yrlietThen you go from there
>>543103560Owlshart, like all russians, are obsessed with big numbers. 40k ttrpg books aren't known for big numbers and are known for being rather deadly for players. Look at pic related for example. That is a comparative profit factor table. We, as a legendary rogue trader house (i'm being generous here, realistically we're not on the same level as winterscale) should float around 100 PF by the end of the game. Instead you can easily rack it up to 200 and more. All owlshart games have numbers inflationIf they actually used this system they woudln't be able to satisfy their big numbers itch
>>543103749Pretty tough*
>>543103929>>elantach I have something to tell you but you have to promise not to get madIt's ok, I don't care who you are, I just want elf pussy, so spread up
>>543103560>Is rogue traders ttrpg system really badNah its just that Owlcat wanted to blow their load with a word bearer in act 1. The tabletop has way stronger meltas and better weapon variety but owlcat gave everyone a hundred ways to bypass armour.
>>543103973>Calcazar is richer than usIt's over...
>>543102647>3.in a turn based game if you have good range and crowd control abilities but the enemies dont the fights will always be easynow im just imagining how much people would complain if owlcat pulled some of the shit styg did>wtf this sniper killed 2 of my party members from 3 screens away on turn one
>>543103929>I...I'm not Yrliet! *sobs*I know and I don't care
>>543103973You only get retardation numbers for extreme completionism. I think this would be solved if Owlcat didn't treat PF as an additive resource, but a tier system. eg>you finish quest to save planet>it gives you 10 PF that can only max you out at 80
>>543103929>confesses that she's not really yrlietIt would be funny as fuck if you could tell her that you knew the entire time.
>>543104321Styg sounds based. Any creator who doesn't cave to incessant whining of unwashed masses is a true auteur
>>543104514It's very based if your game doesn't have long loading times.
>>543104321Honestly people complained about that to much the characters literally warn you>dont go over there thats that one gangs territory >when you go over there some sniper blows your head off and/or the turrets gun you down
Yes, oh omnipresent authority figure?
>>543105189Giving fair warning is good. If you don't heed it then you only have yourself to blame
>>543101862Not even King Arthur could pull me out of that pussy if it happened
>Your bird that pierces the veil on wings of steel is truly wonderful, Elantach!>I fear that my presence makes your crewmen... uncomfortable.>I believe you have much to learn about conversing with an Aeldari lady! >*pointedly drops a copy of Xenology and runs away blushing*>I must someday return from my wanderings to lead House Lanaevyss.>You want ME to lead? If you insist Elantach...>*2 damage* Ahh! Help me Elantach!>Ehh? You want me to... to hold your... your hand... while we meditate??? Elantach! I... I cannot! This goes beyond all bounds of propriety! What if someone were to see us?
>>5431057382nd dlc was a perfect opportunity to have all companions switch bodies to hilarious results, and owltards blew it, as always
>>543105738She'd be cute ngl but that wouldn't be an Aeldari
>>543105860>Marzi in a mon-keigh body proceeds to immediately scream as this is the most horrible thing he could envision then either runs into a fire, fucks the nearest person or both>yrliet lies down in a catatonic state>cassia enjoys the wind on her forehead>whoever gets cassias body exterminates everyone in a cone in front of them
>>543105860It would have been write up their alley too.Just a lot of dialogue of everyone getting mad and talking at cross purposes, hilarity ensuesBut no we had an owlcat patented 1-dimensional trudge through the environment in Maive's bodyIt was too much work for them to write dialogue for all the different combinations depending on who is in the party
>>543105860>switch bodies with yrliet>jimmy has to get over his distate for xenos scum and fuck you>>543106079>>Marzi in a mon-keigh body proceeds to immediately scream as this is the most horrible thing he could envision then either runs into a fire, fucks the nearest person or bothmarazhai can not be recruited in act 2
Seriously why is there barely any enemies with crowd control or stun abilities in rogue trader?
>>543106145>marazhai can not be recruited in act 2You don't have to do the medieval planet in Act 2. He has dialogue for going to the carnival
>>543106213All the funnier when enemy navigators just shoot you with guns instead of using their abilities. because people hate getting stunlocked. What a tootheless game
>>543106079>Argenta and Jimmy swap bodies and they're both completely fine with it
>>543106291Yeah, maybe one day i'll recruit him and leave all the optional content for act 4 to see what him and Ulfar have to say. But I probably won't
forcing all the owlcat devs to play underrail on dominating and solasta on cataclysm until they get how turn based combat works.
>>543106213There's Cinder and the Anvers on footfallThat's about it reallyYou're right there are very few
>>543106490>and they're both completely fine with itThat is no fun. Everyone should despair. Ulfar should inhabit cassia's frail body
>>543106704Yeah true, everyone needs to be madArgenta should end up in Idira, Jimmy should end up in Abelard and experience being old without biomancy.Yrliet turns into ArgentaIdira should go into Cassia. Bonus if you have to do a warp jump and she needs to just kinda eyeball it with Cassia (in Yrliet) giving tips over the voxYou could manage the logistics by having the governor call a reception at which everyone attends, so you can simplify the writing of who goes where.
All this bodyswapping talk got me thinking. Are psyker abilities intrinsically connected to a body or a soul? I want to say soul since psyker souls are special and are more desireable for the daemons for example, but when you bodyswap with maeve you lose your abilities if you play a psyker. Sounds like a disconnect here and something owlcat didn't really think about
>>543107124>something owlcat didn't really think aboutSurely not
>>543105860Voice actors love this sort of stuff because they can have fun playing each other's charactersEveryone loves a body swap episode
Is there any enemies that have any zoning abilities that restrict/hinder your movement and/or damage you for staying in the same spot? I can only think of the poison gas guys in footfall?
>>543107373Poison gas, fire bombs, and some of the bosses in Void Shadows do exactly that. They mark a zone then bomb the shit out of it next turn, so you'd better clear off.
>>543106998>Jimmy should end up in Abelard and experience being old without biomancy.That's good. He hates being a psyker, but he's never actually experienced the world in any significant way as a regular person. Good for perspective
>>543106998You could do a round robin setup of the entire retinue, with edge cases for retards who dismiss party members. It would be a lot of writing so you'd need to limit to to about two paragraphs of reaction for each character, and a few big scenes that you can fall back on as necessary . A bit like the way they spaced out re-discovering the crew in Cumrag
>>543107563They could swap to each other, and Abelard has to go back to his old body, and he's fine with it because he knows that youth is for the young and wouldn't dream of depriving Jimmy of that.
>Quetza Temerjesus wept
>>543108269I thought you'd enjoy walking in circles
>>543108269Is there an actual map or is it semi-random where you end up upon leaving each zone?
Freaky friday but it's people bitching about yrliet swapping with yrliet
Yrliet but she's a schizoid with multiple personalities, including the original Yrliet
>>543106079>Clone-Slut Yrliet swaps with normal Yrliet and they both take a minute to realize what's happened before becoming horrified>Jae swaps with Argenta and gets her wish, in a sense>Einrich Monteg doesn't swap with anyone because it doesn't work on genestealers
Owlcat if it had undershits combat>enemies win intative almost always unless you put all your points into agility>the enemies instantly throw stun grenades that stun you and your team for 2 turns then throw down hazards >2 snipers instantly kill some of your team>invisible enemy poisons and stun locks you>round two your still stunned and you entire team dies
>>543108510it seems like there's logic to it but they put too many cells so it's just annoying
>>543108510There is a map but it's bugged. I think one of the last zones before you find the village you appear at the north of the map and you have to actually do a 180 and suddenly it leads elsewhere, not back to where you came from.
>>543109124>Literally what happens even if you put all points into agility on higher difficulties>Stun grenade soldiers are literally the most dangerous enemy in the game already>Aurora encounter>>3/5Also skill issue
>>543109230that's not a bug that's how these types of puzzle-maps work. doesn't make it less annoying to sift through.
I don’t enjoy underrail but I think the game just isn’t for me and it’s okay if you like it :)
>>543109362>Stun grenade soldiers are literally the most dangerous enemy in the game alreadyTwo bad there is only like 2 encounters with them
You people are overeating crowd control
>>543110095I'm not overeating anything I have 155lbs
>>543110095>overeating crowd controlMy appetite knows no bounds
>>543110095Chompin’ into a big stinking cloud
>>543109362>Aurora encounterAka literally the only time snipers are dangerous in the game.
>Your kind are the embodiment of she who thirstsRemind me who created Slaanesh?
>>543110594I mean it's the encounter where your guys get sniped before you play. Also it's one of the rare dangerous encounters in the game.
Every encounter should be a dangerous encounter.
>>543110684there's really only 2 types of people who speak on yrliet's behalf. contrarians and people who were already obsessed with eldar. neither do it because she makes good points.
>>543110684I think they say She-Who-Thirsts to refer to all chaos>*Snifffffff* the mon-keigh interrogator bears the stench of She-Who-Thirsts!It's actually Tzeentch who has discreetly marked Jimmy but it's all the same to an eldar.
Every encounter should be a silly encounter
>>543111458Could be both. Jimmy really wants a gf. But between jimmy being a gooner and yrliet being a retard i'm gonna pick the latter
Owlcat leaker here, the balance patch will drop on warhammer day and the dlc will be available on November 2.
>>543111458No. She Who Thirsts is Sai'lanthresh, who is Slaanesh. These terms are names of a particular person, and do not refer to the idea of chaos in general.She is trying to say that humans are horny which embodies Slaanesh. Which isn't true, since Slaneesh is only empowered by excessive hornieness. Wanting to have sex with your wife or girlfriend and being normal about it does not empower Slaanesh at all. But Yrliet is disgusted by all human sexual interest, so she exaggerates.
>>543113528>and the dlc will be available on November 2.por que?
>>543113596I've never seen the Eldar make any distinction between the different personalities of chaos, or ever refer to four chaos gods. They just don't seem to look at it that way, even if it's technically correct
>>543113596Slaanesh is powered by the search for perfection, for the ultimate high.
>>543113698They do, and have. The novel about the incursion into Nurgle's garden repeatedly had them talking about Nurgle. in other media, they have said that they hate all chaos, but Sai'lanthresh in particular because it has special interest in eldar souls.>>543113853That is one among several things it is empowered by, yes. Excess takes many forms.
>>543114153>They do, and haveNTA, but how eldar characters talk about Chaos in RT seems to indicate they treat the four gods as a whole
>>543114153>The novel aboutOh god not this shit again Yrliet never once mentions any form of chaos besides She-Who-Thirsts>Oh no here we go again into the realm of She-Who-Thirsts, I hate this part So I guess she's not as well educated as the eldars in this "novel"
>>543114153What the novel about trashing grandpa's garden?
>>543114387Yrliet has room temperature IQ, is fresh out of Craftworld college, possibly autistic even for an Eldar>abloo abloo she doesn't know her chaos gods
>>543114414NTA but I believe they bust his realm to try to rescue Isha, their fertility goddess. Nurgle keeps her in a cage like a pet and tries to charm her with delicious pestilential broth.The rescue team made it a little way in but got stuck in the garden and devoured by monstrous plants.
There's only Chaos Undivided btwDividing it into entities is just a convenience and an illusion. They're not truly individuals or even truly sentient.
>>543114387>we go again into the realm of She-Who-ThirstsThis doesn't mean "realm of nobody but She-Who-Thirsts"
I want to rape idira
>>543114846I want to have consensual sex with Idira when she is body swapped into Argenta, then not tell Argenta after everything is back to normal
>>543114387She hates going to the realm of Sai'lanthresh. That makes sense, since eldar have a particular hatred of Slaanesh, and human ships have to go through the warp. That does not mean that Slaanesh is the only inhabitant of the warp, and that's not what she said. You're assigning a meaning that was not actually said. Eldar do know the difference between the chaos gods.It's also not just novels. Eldar referring to particular gods or particular follows of certain gods has been a thing forever. The idea that eldar can't differentiate the chaos gods is not a thing, you've assigned meaning to a few comments from Yrliet that are not actually a thing.>>543114414That's a different event. The eldar incursion into Nurgle's garden failed, and they were all turned into swamp trees. They were trying to rescue Isha to cure them of a sickness in their craftworld. When they failed, the entire craftworld died. I forget the novel, they honestly all run together in my head I've read so many.What you're thinking of is when Guilleman burned down Nurgle's garden. That was a show of force when he woke up.
>>543114328RT was written by retards who skimmed through 40k wiki. Do not treat anything you see there as canon
>Yrliet's face when Isha is rescued by a gigamonke
>>543115641GW approves their scripts, its all CANON. Whatever they do with the tyrant star will also be CANON.
>>543115641As opposed to what? It's more consistent with 40k lore than 99% of stuff that came out of BL.
40k LORE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>543116113>tfw still mad about Iacton Qruze being "Cthonian old guard"
40k is for retards. If you like 40k you should be shot.
>>543115849Guilleman and Isha will get married, saving the Eldar race
Keep talking about 40k lore I find it fascinating
>>543113528>the balance patch will drop on warhammer dayWon't the government shutdown make that impossible?
Talk about crpgs
They think 40k has lore AHAHAHAHAHHAYou realise it’s all made up bullshit from failed novelists, right?
Thoughts?
>>543117395Yes.
That is why underrail has the best writing out of all crpgs
>>543117395It's not great writing in a vacuum, but it's a good theme park for people who are into 40k lore where the writers show off how much they're into it as well.Also>poe
>>543117395>only vague descriptions of how the dialogue feels heavy>no specific examples of offendersRedditor has the right to his opinion and feelings, but the way he describes his problem with the writing is completely useless.
When will Owlcat retvrn to might and magic?
Rogue Trader? a Russian novel crammed into a CRPG.
>>543118165Being into 40k lore isn’t a good thing u bloody bitch bastard
>>543118992It is if you're applying for a 40k game writer job.
>>543117395
>>543119141Have fun working for 10k a year u gay little figurine painting faggot
>>543117395>Pillars having better writingPut this man down.
I wanna smooch her.
>>543117395A good post that I think was inspired by our shitposting here. Many such cases.
>>543120135Yeah I don’t think u have any influence over anyone, faggot
>>543103190General consensus is professional writers have no idea what the fuck they're doing
>>543120004Why?
What would /crpgg/'s collective dream rpg be?
>>543120337>Pretends youtube grifters don't comb this website for dumbass takes to put on their channels for clicksMaybe it doesn't happen in crpgg very often though, given how niche this genre is.
>>543121139No one care what u think or say u gay little faggot
>>543117395He is 100% right. A rarity for a ledditor
>>543120875>RTwP+Turn Based toggle isometric rpg>high fantasy setting>the main character has a sister (Imoen figure)>Badass bro companion like Garrus>"Evil Woman" that becomes allied with the protagonist>An assortment of exotic companions to romance on the side>3e or 3.5e DnD ruleset, providing build autism without the variety in options creating choice paralysis in newcomers to Pathfinder>Male empowerment fantasy written by Avellone and Kapershyn>Rest of dev team are ex-Troika
>>543120875The game revolves around you playing as a male protagonist and whoring out all the female companions to enemies to progress the game.
Why does Froggy like Sawyer so much?
The King of /crpgg/ has spoken. We need a Pillars 3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQPi7-NN5M0
>deadfire and avowed floppedPillars 3 isn't happening, just make a new setting.
>>543098782>josh sawyer hands wrote this post
The setting isn't the problem with Pillars, though it does have some flaws.
>>543099159alice crpg when?
>>543125290Shin megami tensei
>>543125121No. The setting is actually good and interesting
>>543125290Your Forspoken?
>>543124741>wants the conclusion of the story, the chapter 3I must be the only person in the world who feels The Watcher should have been finished in 1, someone else unrelated in 2, and again unrelated in hypothetical 3 (honestly also enough about souls and gods as well, you don't need to go full Marvel to tell a good story)
>>543126263That was the plan and what Sawyer wanted but he was pressured to keep it the same character. He’s talked about it a few times
>>543126263Oh, I watch a little bit further and he says he'd like it 50 years later, partly to get away from the watcher of caed nua.my bad, in total agreement so far
>>543126263no, kill god
Crazy that one slab made underrail and it still mogs owlcuck games
I just want 1.5 already. I'm tired of having to wait so long.
Who is the lebron james (greatest of all time) of crpgs?
wotr- LeBron (overrated and empty numbers)bg3 - Kobe (flashy, rapey, and popular)underrail - Jordan (goat, soulful)
>>543127728his wife/sister/grandma and two or three friends contributed and are credited
>>543115972Only as canon as the books you're seething at.
Who's the Messi (GOAT, innate talent, manlet, autistic) and the Ronaldo (effort, grit, flashy, funny) of CRPGs?
this guy is upset about what is canon is 40gay…..bad news bro……..
>>543129614Autism Messi -UnderrailRape Ronaldo -BG3
>>543117395Illiteracy is alive....
>>543128639>>543129071>>543129614>niggerball
>>543129772Enjoying lengthy cuck romance dialogue doesn’t make you more literate than them
Can you guys make food analogies instead? I can understand those
>IlliteracyOwlcats writing just isn't quite good so people dont want to read it. Its not like they are producing Robert Howard or Moorecock level work.
Who's the Maradona (charismatic, commie, rapey, pedophile, drug addict, religious figure) of CRPGs?
Waidwen did nothing wrong
>>543130014Avellone
>>543130004Elric>corum btw
>>543130014Doesn’t exist yet, sadly.
>>543130045He was weak and allowed himself to be possessed
>>543129919I seriously doubt you can even comprehend romance dialogue. Maybe voice acting will fix that for you retard.
Jae is the best written romance in the game btw. Starrok confirms this.
>>543130503Hey anon can you help me with something real quick? I'd do it myself but my ex is there and if I see him I'm going to crawl on my hands and knees to beg him to spit in my mouth. Its cool if you don't have time
>>543129970what's the baozi of CRPGs?
>>543130854Shadowrun HK
>>543130854Jade Empire duh
>>543130410I’ve had more sex in the last two years than you will have in your entire life. Have fun pretending you have superior literacy because you like pages of bland and boring text in your owlcuck games.
There is no cuckoldry in Owlcat main games besides Cassia bad end and Yrliet Corsair end if Marzi is alive
I think Raszard switched to Argenta because he browses here and we redpilled him into realizing Yrliet is in fact humiliating cuckshit.
>>543131272Argenta is even worseshe will NEVER love anyone but Him>YG0DS
>>543130936
>>543131272No reddit called him out for depicting yrliet wrong
>>543131881Go back
Are you more excited for companion reveals or gameplay features regarding Dark Heresy and RT DLC?
>>543133564I am excited for neither more painfully generic dogmatic humans nor more inventory bloat and puzzles
Is malpian shroud the BiS cloak for any melee build? Do the temporary wounds stack if you attack multiple times a turn?
>>543131127I don't think cuckoldry has any real meaning as a term anymore. It's merely a general expression for "romantic disappointment."
>>543133564Companions, but not for waifuism. Just genuinely curious what cool stuff we'll get. Hope we get a classic witch hunter/huntress because those have the best drip in the inqusition.
You need the 80$ Edition to play DH alpha it seems, the 40$ base just gives Beta Access..Imo that's steep considering we are basically paying to be doing QA testing for them. It should include the first Season of DLC at least for that price.But will hand it to them the base edition is pretty cheap 40$ for a game that will at least give 90-100 hours of content. Good thing they didn't price hike that at least.
>>543134105Owlcat does giveaways on their streams sometimes, maybe you can get a DH key if you show up to the right one. Some content creators also do stream giveaways so idk maybe you can get alpha access for free if you're lucky.
>>543134105>>543134256Is this really a lot of money for you? Should just be a couple more lawns for you to mow, right kid?
Can someone remind me of the name of that M&M-esque blobber that's in early access? It had goblins, fish people, tribal elves, and minotaurs as the playable races.
>>543133564Gameplay features, to be frank I've found the companions and writing in RT to be its weakest aspect. Plus the DLC companions have varied massively in quality, Kibbles is alright but Solomorne is awful and his accompanying questline sticks out like a sore thumb.
What's the general consesus on Diva? I imagine it won't be able to keep DC-wise for its support, so what else do you do with it? I see that it can sneak attack with its screeches at least.
>>543134665>he didn't like the arbitration sequencesI thought they were very fun.
>>543134105Every single owlcat alpha has been posted on this site. You're retarded if you pay for it.
>>543117395The purple dogshit that is pillars writing is still superior to owlcuck writing.
These devil rats are tougher than I expected, this is my third try here. Getting smarter about using my abilities (shaman). Wish I had entirely skipped investing in literally anything else though, that part of this system feels a bit bad. There's very little incentive imo to split at all. You pick your class and put every point into the associated stat and class abilities and that's it, really. Initially I put some into Quickness and Pistols because I thought I could do some shaman stuff and some pistol stuff, but all that means is I'm shit at pistols and slightly less good than I would have been with the conjuring/acid blast stuff. With no real reason to choose pistols over acid blast, it feels simply like a bad decision (not much to go on in character creation though). Using the elemental walls combined with Shadow works well. The economy in the game is pretty tight so I can never buy all the spells or equipment I want, but it works out in the end.
>>543131127>no cuckoldry>except these cuckoldrieslogic cuckold
>>543136703I feel like that portrait looks like Sawyer
just stop kissing dollies in owlcat games and play them for the gameplay insteadget your fix for that in other games whose devs don't have that kink
>>543131127The RT can cuck one of his noble underlings at a party on Dargonus. Its very blatant and public too.
why did jae ask me for stuff before putting out but was caught by cassia in the nude with the crew?
>>543121925>rtwpThere is only one of those I enjoyed and that is DAO. Is it nostalgia for 2000s kids?
Quick, talk about literally anything else.
Which CRPG do you regret buying the most?
>>543137801She's a hoe. Just execute her and save your crew from the STDs.
>>543137106You are suffering from chronic sawyerbrain, I'm sorry you have only 6 months until you see him everywhere and in everything
>>543138106dos2its bad
>>543132295Yeah desu a lot of people were blocking him on Reddit saying they got tired of him drawing the Yrliet that only exists in his head
>>543138106BG3Gameplay is ok, pretty easy and 5E is meh, but still good enough. Looks good and has nice reactivity, but man I disliked the cringy writing and most of the characters except Astarion who was kinoI prefer story/characters over gameplay and that's what made me not finish the 2nd playthrough.
>>543138106Kingmaker. Put it down at day 8.
>>543137990Most who like rtwp do because they don't like unchallenging or boring encounters. Like the repetitious warp encounters in mid to late game RT where its always the same two or three layouts and you know the outcome will be an easy victory, so the encounter exists solely to waste time.
>>543138636Kys
>>543138106Divinity Original Sin 2. Looks pretty but doesn't actually have much substance and the characters are dumb. It also feels like the developer doesn't like to let the player make his own, like you get less engagement with content if you don't pick one of the premades that comes with a story that should've just been a Dragon Age style origin.
>>543138883yes that's what they call it
>>543138106dos2, RT, and Underrail. Possibly Age of Decadence but I intend to give it more of a chance than I briefly did before determining that.
>>543138519The first one after Origins I got was POE. It's tanking is an "engagement" system which just means that I have to constantly look for a chokepont where I can play 300 if I don't want my party to get copletely enveloped.
>>543139112The first Harebrained Shadowrun. It's amazing how well they turned it around with DF and HK.
>>543137058Typical owlcuck/40k fan
>>543139209Plenty of ways out of an enemy engaging with someone you don't want them on, also directly breaking engagement isn't the worst, especially if you don't tank resolve/con because >muh frail wizard.
>>543138106rogue traderclearly unfinished and was just peddled by evangelical 40ktards as something actually good
>>543139578>knows he will hate something>still pays for it
tau bovine milk
>>543139515Given the lore behind how souls work, why would a Wizard ever be frail? I'd expect a wizard to punch me through a mountain range DBZ style before I'd expect them to be a lanklet.
>>543139760straight from the tap
Don’t fucking criticise 40k. We will not take that here. We fucking love 40k lore. It is well written and has good enough continuity. Fuck u. Our little figurines are not fucking gay. Our RT game does not cuck us. Well only those 3 times but it’s not that often!
where the no do-over anon when you need himthis baby has been crying about 40k for half a day
>>543140037>post frequency intensifies when quality of trolling is questioned
instead of talking about 40k in a negative light you could paint gay little figurines with tranny flags like we do! that’s a good way to maximize your time.
i'd take basedpunk over cringedark at this point
>>543139515If I try walking out they just follow grtting getting disengagement attacks all they way. I beat both on hardest but found the experience to be very repetitive looking back. Just find a spot to do the Leonidas thing over and over.
>>543140485WHAT DOES IT MEAN
Is W40k that bad?
>>543140661its just goofy and edgysomeone will inevitably have a meltdown about any series you mention here enough like its a personal attack on them
>>543138106Everything by Obsidian. Especially KotoR 2 and NWN2 plus add-ons.
>>543140363mindbroken status?
>>543140485Don’t fucking say that. You can’t criticise 40k here. Bitch. Anything you criticise isn’t canon because I fucking say so.
40k is shit but who cares? Let them watch their loreslop videos in peace.
>>543141136mindbroken status?
>>543140661yes
>>543138106Pillars of eternity. Turned me off modern crpgs for a few years. DOS2 got me into them again.
Is RT cucking a meme or an actual thing? The defenders and attackers both seem like trolls
When will owlcuck return to fantasy so we're not stuck with human only bs?
>>543140626Bring your fighter over before breaking disengagement? But also that was just the one and least suggestion, directly breaking. There's all kinds of ways to deal with it. Hobble them, knock them prone, confuse, probably other status effects. That priest spell to hide you for awhile, which also comes on multiple pieces of equipment...I don't remember the Leonidas thing, but I also don't remember when the engagement system troubled me much. Positioning is important and it should be important, I miss when it isn't a strong aspect in CRPGs. And if the enemy isn't trying to take out the squishy wizard who's bringing hellfire down upon them then to me that's bad AI.
when they finish farming 40k cucks. only 40k cucks pay 80$ for an alpha key
>>543141763with owlcat romances, part of it is people twisting events to shitpost, but part of it is also people excusing genuinely shit behavior
>>543140661it's more that it's not good but its dick riders view it as the end-all-be-all of fiction
>>543141763Jae does in fact participate in orgies even if you are in a relationship and talks about her ex dominating herYrliet actually finds physical intimacy with a human physically repulsive and calls everyone slurs throughout the entire gameKibellah develops a weird, loving fixation with the skull of an enemySolomorne will never love you as much as his dog
What is the inceliest CRPG out there?
>>543142481>Kibellah develops a weird, loving fixation with the skull of an enemyI'll let a lot of shitposts roll past but don't you dare besmirch Kibbles. She's cute (CUTE) and Nemo is a fun addition.
IT'S UP!!!https://youtu.be/pk2S_6-lRqs
>>543142450I see 40k fans make fun of 40k all the time. Hell, it feels like there is more tongue-in-cheek fan works than serious ones.
>>543142613t. cuckold
>>543141763Is it cucking if you aren't in a formal relationship?ie what anon brings up here >>543137801
>>543142671that's the most ironic part. it's only their preferred section that is peak, everything else is what everyone always talking shit about. you can see it in this very thread with some faggot saying the books aren't canon then turning around and using as RT objective canon when they're both the same level of ancillary material. very spiritually jewish desu.
>>543141763Its both but it isn't a thing to the degree its fixated on. There is something to be said and critiqued about the style of writing that over-fixates on jealousy but calling every instance of it cuckoldry is just memeing or shitposting.
>>543140661My single exposure to it was RT and I thought it was really cool at first, but after about 15 hours or so I was ready to never play anything 40k-related again.It's just a very singular kind of setting, and the same kind of themes get used over and over.Also it's somehow deep and serious, and also simultaneously not to be taken seriously, depending on the criticism.I wouldn't say it's "bad" because that's a silly thing to say, it obviously appeals to a lot of people for whatever reasons.I didn't finish my RT run and don't think I will pick it up ever again, and won't be playing DH unless something changes my mind significantly.
Notice how hard the 40k fags try to defending the cucking in RT. It is genuinely pathetic.
>>543138106DOS2.BG3.Pillars 2.
Why does it always feel like half of /vg/ is composed of passive-aggressive women?
>>543143342Well I'm a dude and you sound like a whiny bitch so the math works out on my end.
Anything new get announced recently
Owlcucks ITT can't handle belgian kino.
This guy again>everyone that criticises my interests is a fricken woman!!!!!!!!
>>543138106avowed
>>543127939Did Anevia know Irabeth was sitting on fifty grand?
>>543143530Owlcat teased a WHF crpg using a Berserk clip.
>>543143704On what planet is is repeating the same circular shitposts for literal days xonsidered criticism? Criticism has a point and as thought to express. This is a direct and tawdry attempt to annoy people.
>>543143542Hey I don’t hate Larian completely.I’m definitely going to try Swen’s space game.I just hate DOS2 and felt that BG3 turned out too sanitized compared to its EA version.
>>543109362There's a ring and classes to always have initiative otherwise yeah. Underrail you can just feat, drink, and builds that aren't 16+dex are shit by default anyways
>>543144105>stttooooop I can’t take seeing the valid criticism any moreeeee pleaseee stopppp
I’ve never cared for Underrail
>>543144105It's all the schizo has, repeat the same shitposts for 12 hours a day, what a life
>noooo you can’t fricken criticise my interestssss>n-no I won’t defend them>f-fuck you you’re just a shitposter>i m-maximize my fricken time>stop pleaseeee
>he still thinks I'm the no do-over anonI waste my time too, I just have better standards than this
If you didn’t give him attention he’d stop
>y-you think im the no do-over anon>n-no there is no way you’re mocking me for screaming for his help>i waste my time too>p-pleaseeee fricken leave my interests aloneeee
>>543145506I did some chores, took a nap, and when I came back he was still crying about 40k and waifus or whatever
Are these guys okay? Have they been mindbroken by the mindbroken schizo?
>>543143530that starfinder game but its kind of ugly
not sure if this is the right thread to ask but do I miss much if don't play the first two witchers and jump into witcher 3
>>543146114I think 2 is worth playing so you know who a lot of the characters are but it’s probably fine to just jump into 3.
>>543145506This is true. Shitposting is an inherently social activity. Contrast it with something like smearing feces on the wall or whatever.Even if it's antagonistic in its approach, it's rooted in a desire to connect with other humans.
>>543147103willingly smearing feces on the wall so others notice you and call you a shitposter (shitsmearer) has got to be the most pathetic way to "connect" with other humans I've ever heard
They are actually mad. That’s why they can’t stop feeding the trolls.
Give me any line/passage you like in a crpg and I'll rewrite it Owlcat style
>>543147696
>>543147952Not much to work with here
>>543146114Nothing at all. Witcher 1 and 2 are mostly about the scoia-tael and politics which becomes irrelevant after the nilfgaard invasion.
>>543148573Oh, I thought you were just going to add "I don't like you, die!" or something.>>543147952Genuinely not sure which to do here. My character is the type to highly value his crew and their wishes, and also try to do the "right thing" when possible. But sinking the ship will really fuck these people and I don't think the people living here want that.I think we'll try to re-take and hope Gobbet changes her mind.
>>543149312Why are you playing a midgetWhat is this gameWho are you
>>543149438My character is the lower portrait (not-Aloth)Shadowrun: Hong KongI am the terror that flaps in the night.
>>543148573>>543147952The Owlcat expansion to this would be to add a superfluous paragraph describing the bodies/scene after "You're welcome by the way." And then after the fluff paragraph she'd double dip with something like "Handled them for you, it wasn't too tough."The responses get one [Attack] with some flavor, no matter how inane, and one observation skill check like [Arcana] 'The room looks like magic was cast here'
>>543139760Another glorious day at the Tau gloryhole milking farm. All for glorious Tau ethereal leaders.
>>543146114No but you should play 1 since it's unique and kino.>This sword is for monsters.
https://voca.ro/11mFQnHcYBea
>>543146114You can play Witcher 1 and then get angry that the other two aren’t as cool or well written.
>>543151491:(
>>543149438Kill yourself. Dwarves are the patrician choice.
When it comes to Dark Heresy do you predict the prime cuck screeching will come from a human romance or a xeno romance?
>>543151535I've played all 3 and witcher 3 mogs it by far. Zoltan screeching like beast in heat is the only good part of witcher 1
>>543152004No duh
>>543152004The elf romance is the only one I'm excited for but then again I'm gay
>>543152004If there is a female Eldar or Tau and she has a weird romance that isn't her being a waifu that lets the MC bang her, then xeno. Hell even if she does put out but has some hurdles in romance or hints of something bad in ending people will screech about cuckoldry.
>>543152004Nobody will care if it's just the darkie and the kroot.
I seriously hope Froggy and his imitator come out of retirement for Dark Heresy and cuckpost the shit out of /crpgg/ and /v/ threads when DH is fresh. I hope there are romances that give them material. Yrliet was perfect.
>>543153323Reread this post to yourself a few times and think about what kind of person you've become
>>543153323I know he's playing despite whatever he says
>>543153323What difference does it make? The threads are already full of cuckposting.>>543153507Pretty sure he said he will play it anons asked him when he returned
>>543151491What accent is that?
>>543151491He will still simp for her
>>543153797Any of the old USSR satellite states.
>>543153323 imitator here, if Owltranimals provide good material I will come out of retirement and cuckspam in the Legendary Frog's lingo for a few months. Maybe even a year if Expanse + DLCs give good material too.
>>543154239Don't. His name and schizoid legacy deserves to fall into complete obscurity after his Veilguard arc.
>>543154239Dude what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
I backed Afterlight on kickstarter and I preordered the alpha access dark heresy. got new arc line, solasta2, archquest, clockwork revolution, and the expanse on my wishlist as well.But I'm not sure I want to get bloodlines 2. It's been on my steam wishlist since early 2019 but I've been hearing/seeing some not good looking things. I'm an old fan of the first one and the tabletop so I wouldn't mind a walking sim or whatever gameplay as long as they get the atmosphere right. I'll watch some more on it from previews to decide.I think next year will be good. There are several good looking rpg's coming.
>>543154413He was here like last month
>>543154516He was here like a week or two ago
>>543154505Didn't ask Mintharafag
>>543154505>the expanseliterally not a crpg
>>543154753How do you know?
I keep having wet dreams about Jae, I need a mommy Jae gf.
Ok since you fags complain about Yrliet so much, what would a good Eldar female x Human male romance look like?Doesn't have to be a Yrliet rewrite can be a whole new character type a farseer, aspect warrior, ynnari corsair or whatever. What do you think a good romance of that type would look like?
40k fans think they are real humans AGAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>543156850Yrliet is the perfect Eldar romance. She mindbreaks HFY chudcels. She reminds the incel that humans aren't special snowflakes and he will still be rightfully viewed as a worthless chudcel that deserves no love or intimacy by superior beings.
Bow Down Before the God of Death
>>543157007This
If owlcat writers are tired of people complaining about the romances just don't do romances. Most crpgs dont do romance thats mostly a bioware thing, you don't have to copy bioware all the time.
>>543157275HE WILL LEARN! NO KING RULES FOREVER!
>>543138106Neverwinter Nights 2 is nearly 20 years old at this point and I am still annoyed I wasted money and time on it. Dreadful game on every level.
>>543156850Take Yrliet, make her less of a cunt, make her less stupid and have her kiss the RT near end of romance then hold hands and cuddle. That romance doesn't even need sex, just have her not be repulsed by you.
>>543156850>good Eldar female x Human male romanceNever happening, play BG, DA or Divinity if you want to fuck a female elf so badly.
>>543157275Behold the final dawn, and dieeeeeeeee
Gonna play D:OS II, am I supposed to play one of the origin characters or my own?
>>543158141>That romance doesn't even need sexKys cuckold
Seems like there's a difference between these plans:1. re-take the ship in a mutiny2. scuttle it3. organize a mutiny but then decide to scuttleAnd it seems as though there could be consequences to scuttling after we've gotten people ready to mutiny, it was hinted that not everybody might make it.Kind of cool, natural flow that must be total code spaghetti behind the scenes.
>>543157683Your will is no longer your own
>>543156850>Eldar female x Human male romance look likeImperium, Eldar and Squats have to join forces to defeat the invasion of a massive Waagh and Chaos invasion. Lord Castellan General (Boss character) organises this Alliance and his top lieutenants are an unnaturally aged Archmagos, a Human male space marine force commander (functioning cock), a female Eldar Super-Duper Ranger, another human male guy who is just like some master sergeant or something, and a squat dude who flies around on a giant mech bird and throws plasma hammers or whatever weapons squats use, idk. Anyway, they defeat the Chaos Waagh but the Lord Castellan dies and his lieutenants overcome their xenophobia and form the Sons of the Castellan with space marine guy as their de-facto leader. The Eldar females entire Craftworld was destroyed in the conflict so obviously she seeks out the Space Marine guy, it's raining right because of course it is, and she's soaking wet, and he's like I gotta get you warm so he finds her dry clothes but instead she gets naked and presses her body against him and he's like WOAH SEX time and then they have sex and she gets pregnant. But later for some reason she gets all angry instead and decides her life is about killing all orks as revenge and they become estranged, untill it turns out that the threat is not elimenated and they must travel into the Immaterium to the world where the orks came from and destroy them from that end so that they can't start a new Waagh. The Sons of the Castellans team up again and rally their forces to invade the Warp, when they're on the other side the Archmagos realises that those two are avoiding each other and spergs out because he himself is now too old and mechanical to have sex so it's like, why the fuck don't you have sex? And then they decide to have sex again. It's a very wholesome romance and he gives her footrubs to warm her feet up.
>>543158987>Human male space marine force commander (functioning cock),stopped reading right there
>>543158490Definitely origin
Yrliet but she becomes a loving eldar tradwife who cooks you meals and irons your shirts
>>543156850It depends on what type of eldar. All of them baseline should be repulsed by humans and view them as inferior but over the course of the story and depending on your actions either grow to respect/resent/fear you. There needs to be a good reason for them to join your crew, if they were an exodite idle curiosity and a desire to explore the galaxy could work but Yrilet searching for her craftworld is a terrible plotline. I've always been partial to a drukhari incubi merc as a crew member. It should culminate in them realising even though you are different species they have grown to care for you, either platonically or romantically depending on whether you activated their romance and they've got your back no matter what. There should also be some sort of moment that shows it beforehand rather than stating it outright, a last stand or conducting a high risk rescue operation. I think the rescue could work quite well for Cumrag.
Larry will have sex with no issues
>>543153323Missed his kino
should I play Rogue Trader, Wrath of the Righteous, or boot up another new game of Disco Elysium
>>543159785His posts about Tristian is still so strange to me. There's like 2 femcels who like Tristian here at most.
>spell description says "this does not provoke an attack of opportunity.">use it when an enemy is in your face and you'll still get smacked>ability decription says: "This has no effect if you cannot reach the ground or floor, or if your target is not in contact with the ground or floor.">can use it on aerial enemies>feat decription says: "This requires a free-hand">can still proc the bonuses with a two-hander or sword and boardI swear that half of WotR's difficulty is avoiding and exploiting bugs. I know that people on here will defend it as >noob trapbut I never felt it was a good skill/build check to lie about what shit in game does. Maybe it's just a Russian thing, because this isn't the first Russian game I've played to purposefully do this.
>>543159785Idc what you think about him, Frog is 100% correct here
Yrliet but she's femdom who makes you lick her feet
>I'm just going to post froggybabbleneck yourself
>Build uses a rapier or other finesse weapon
I am a Owltranimal
>>543159998Being generous to Owlcat, the Pathfinder system itself is like that. We don't call them bugs, but ivory tower design is, unfortunately, a real thing. That doesn't excuse their embracing of it though.
>>543159969There are no guys here that like Yrliet. You guys have been shadowboxing this entire time. Yrliet simps on /crpg/ do NOT exist.
>>543160408/crpg/ is 20 people larping at 40 on any given day, anyone could be anyone
>>543159998Please post a comprehensive list of these cases so that everyone in the class can learn them instead of coveting your secrets and being part of the problem.
I don't know how to phrase this without sounding like a provocateur so I'm just going to say itI like Yrliet
yrlietards not talk about yrliet for 1 thread challenge impossible
>/crpg/
>computer roleplaying game game
>computer roleplaying general general
>>543160798it's a broader elf fag problem
I dont romance yirlet because im dogmatic.
>>543144039It was the money she was saving for sex change surgery
>>543160090All I take from that is frogfurry thinks a lot about eldar hunks
>>543161312Same the first time I played the game I gave her to jimmy almost right after Janus because her little comments got annoying and it broke alot of triggers and caused alot of minor senqunce breaks because the game was still buggy. Now im to afraid to give her away because it might fuck my shit up.
owlcat fans enjoy reading KEK STORIES AHAHAHHAHA
Shart gets Halsin'dElanee gets rock'dAerie gets Haer'Dalis'dOctavia gets Reg'dYrliet gets Marazhai'dCamellia...is Camellia
80$ for an alpha key for THATA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA40k fags pay them for it AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHDBDBHEJ
Why didn't Owlcat have Drukhari rape your romance as torture in act 3?
>>543147952
>>543161897The only KEK is Camelia, yet the one everyone is still upset about is Val, which was a bug.
>>543162345Becasue they took Chris Avelloine's lesson to heart. Supposedly when they worked with him on Kingmaker he told them, that one should only include shit like rape if it's really necessary. And besides I doubt they'd be able to write it in a non-cringe way
>>543161312I don't romance yrliet because she's one of the most unlikeable companions in vidya
With Camellia, it makes logical sense. She's a terrible person through and through.Cassia also counts, but that makes sense in setting. She's a princess in a grimdark universe. There was never going to be a happy ending and she was always going to be married off to someone else. Even the endings where she ends up with the RT result in her dying quickly.
>>543163000Meant for >>543162590
Who was Octavia and the orc supposed to appeal to?
>>543161597> it broke alot of triggers and caused alot of minor senqunce breaksThis still happens if you turn her in to early btw.
>>543162345If I worked at Owlcat I would make that an unskipable voiced 1 hour scene and blow a quarter of the game's budget on it
Who is solomornes romance meant to appeal to?
Who is solomorne
>60% of every thread is waifu talk and/or cuckoldry
>>543131272Somehow his Argenta is really boring
Owlfags STILL defending the bitches that cuck them AHAHSHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHBAHA80$ plus tip ty
>>543162179>>543163840Ivan, did you know that the dollar sign goes before the number? $10 for a footlong, not 10$
>>543142916>spiritually jewishZoomers have drained this phrase of all meaning
>>543159930Out of those 4 - Disco Elysium. It's like asking whether you should read Great Gatsby or some marvel comic trash
Owlfags can’t even deny the cucked allegations they talk about a $ placement AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHRJRIDIDKSKSK
>>543158141remove handholding and cuddling. Just a kiss. That's all you're getting
>the schizo that cries about cucking all day long is not Americanit all starts to make sense
>yrliet vomits after kissing (You)kino
>>543152004Who cares
>>543149312That's a good mission
>>543152004IMAGINE IF EVERY SINGLE ROMANCE IN DARK HERESY IS KEKOLDRY
Yrliet has to pass a Carouse check after kissing you or she'll vomit
>>543163561Women and faggots who don't want pooinloo's bony ass. Though I can't imagine why a woman would go after solomorne over jimmy, since he's just jimmy, but worse in every conceivable way. I like his musical theme though
>>543161597Skill issue. I never had any problems when getting rid of her at any point in the story
>>543163727And it’s all being posted by like one guy
>>543161597I attacked her in Vyatt's mansion, then showed her the eldar skull which convinced her to side with me against Muaran then shot her afterwords.
Remember when we were on 8-chan and had IDs? And how there was barely any cuckspam
>>543163985t. never heard of jewish mitosis
>>543162017cam visits brothels to sate her appetite behind the pc's back
Camellia is a virgin
I don't get it. Why can't 4chan vidya generals ever just be normal on-topic video game discussions. There always has to be some form of schizos that derail and take over the thread; either being coomers spaming fantasies (in our cases cuckoldry) and erp, terminal shitposters just trolling 24/7, parasocial waifufags/husbandofags attached to characters who spam about them all thread, deranged schizos that pick fights over stupid shit and push their own insane theories about either builds oor ther shit, thread personality drama, political spam be it left or right, terminal contrarianism and the list goes on. Why can't we ever have normal vidya discussions anymore?
>>543163727I blame BG3 with Shart/Halsin and Owlcat with ~half of their dollies
>>543165837Terminal online losers with no life treat generals like their parasocial friend group and spam there
>>543162017>Elanee gets rock'dI mean, how is that comparable to all the others?>Aerie gets Haer'Dalis'dLiterally the only scenario in which she can end up with him is if you don't romance her at all or tell her you had no intention to once the love triangle thing pops up. You can't lose to Haer'dalis, that's not a scenario in the game.
>>543165837what part of containment board do you not understand? generals are not conductive to the anonymous discourse this place fosters. they're completely counter to it in fact. there's a reason avatarfagging is a bannable offense and there's a reason no one gets banned for it on this board.
>>543165837To be far a lot of this shit was present outside of /crpgg/, see this 2023 steam thread
>>543166406>containment board/v/ is pretty much the same, the only on topic places are the dead threads on small boards that get 1 reply per day
>>543166618no you're using it as a euphemism here. there's no need. /vg/ is the definition of a containment board.
>>543165837ever heard of the broken windows theory? people see signs of crime, deterioration, property damage, etc. and become more emboldened to break the law as wellthat's crpgg and the schizos are the ones throwing rocks to break windows
>>543159625>Yrilet searching for her craftworld is a terrible plotlineYeah this was extremely dull. Argenta's treasure hunt was the same uninspired slop.
>>543166618is /v/ that bad for recent games? I very highly doubt there would be schizos shitposting about waifus all day long in the one place where they know they can annoy a maximum amount of people
>>543167447Argenta is honestly the biggest waste of a character in the whole game.>can't fugg>kills the head of your dynasty>won't know about it if you don't take her to cumrag and can't do anything besides walk away from her>personal quest is mentioned at the start>is one pitstop at the end of the gameProbably one of the most hyped characters ends up being a nothingburger at best, an active detriment at worst.
>>543167704Yes, it contains all of the aboveThe Dark Heresy and RT threads there were identical to here but with the addition of more political shitflinging
>>543167772>>kills the head of your dynastyThank you, Argenta. You're the only reason Jimmy is in my bed instead of theodora's
>>543168207>homo has shitty opinionsyou are what you eat I guess
>>543165837All of my favorite boards/generals on 4chan are ruined by like one or two bad apples and 4chan in general seems to be declining in quality in recent yearsI'm running out of places to enjoy
>>543163000Post the full thing.
>Join me in meditation!>The enemies of the Aeldari will be undone!>The ancestors set my path!>Khaela Mensha Khaine, move through me! Be the fire in my soul!>I better myself through my Path!>Pain cleanses the soul!>*unhinged laughter*>I awoke to a feeling of wonder. As if a Maiden World were blossoming and flourishing, a spirit stone was saved from Sai'lanthresh, a thousand mon-keigh were burning alive, begging and sobbing and howling.
>>543168308I feel you anon, Reddit and Discord is filled with the most cringy "people" imaginable and if a game doesn't have official forums the discussion defaults there. Steam forums are also 50% shitposting and schizophrenia and 40% cringy redditors. RPG Codex is just grumpy contrarians and slow threads. 4chan would be perfect if we could chase away the mentally ill.
>>543169190>4chan would be perfect if we could fill it with normalfagsI'd take hundreds of schizos over one bleeding pussy like you.
>>543169380>fill it with normalfagsNever said anything of the sort kekJust said chase away the mentally ill schizos and coomer who just exist to shit up threads
What other generals do you browse and how schizo are they compared to /crpgg/?
>>543165837I ignore 90% of the post. And if someone replies to me with some obvious inflammatory bait I just reply in good faith if I deign to reply at all.I also try to answer gameplay questions whenever I can, especially if it's from a new player trying to get into a particular game.
>>543168308I do notice there's an influx of what I assume are bots lately, but there has been botting for a long while now too. Its just the botting was different.What is telling is there's very little meta talk about newfags and cancer like there used to be a decade ago.I agree though, 4chan is one of the last places an autist could rant about something without worrying about tiptoeing around eggshells.
>>543169716the people having a bitchfit here don't know how tame this shit is
>>543169716Every general is either dead or like this or worse.
>>543169716I browse /sfg/ Spaceflight General on /sci/Not too schizo
>>543169547they are the white blood cells of this place. feel attacked? that's because you're the infection, bucko. thems the breaks.
What's the best play-order of the classic Infinity engine RPGs?I'm mid-way through Baldur's Gate 1 right now.
>>543165837What constitutes an on topic game discussion for you? The plot? The builds?
what crpgs let me be racist
>>543171023arcanum
what crpgs let me treat women like the princesses they are
>>543172384Rogue Trader
>>543172384Black Souls
>>543147696It's not crpg, but "Any choice is right, so long as it's willed" from Pathologic 2 was delivered with such gravitas that I can't help but love it with how it ties into Artemy's story
>>543147696Heya! It's me, Imoen!
>>543138106Age of Decadence. I can't get too mad at it since it was a small team or whatever but it just had so many chances to softlock you and the AI actually and literally cheats in combat in a demonstrative way when their AP is almost double your own even at max agility.I'm glad i beat it but fuck me I'm never going through that game again
>>543169716Used to frequent animal crossing general. It was fine
>>543167772>can't do anything besides walk away from herIdira will zap her if you permit
>>543167772Argenta is just a terrible character. If she was at least consistent I might respect her but she's a complete tard. Idira turns people into mutants and she does nothing. The RT can side with a daemon in the prologue and she does nothing. Her preaching also gets annoying when she tries acting like your tainted and lecturing you because Theodara may have been a heretic. This occurs even when you are full dogmatic.
>>543167772I really feel like they were planning on doing a lot for her and making her one of the main faces of the team but something changed and they just forgot about her and had other characters take most of her story beats
>>543174803She's almost like a well-voiced mercenary. No real plot or development.
>>543174556>acting like your tainted and lecturing youPlayers seem to love this thoughShe talks down to you just as much as Yrliet, just differently, but gets a pass for some reason.I hate how you can't put her in her place to any degree without her going completely off the rails at the end.
>>543175135>without her going completely off the rails at the end.repentia is her best end honestly. she deserves it.
What's his build?
>>543175135>Players seem to love this thoughIts literally because she's a girl. It's the same reason fags defend Yrilet. She doesn't deserve a good ending and its obnoxious how she's one of the only party members that you cannot just shoot.
Argenta was right about practically everything
>>543175558Wild west undertaker that made a deal with the devil at the crossroads to attain immortality but the devil tricked him and made him undead instead. Not sure why he's smiling.
>>543169716A bunch of weeb ones that love to avatarfag and talk about their irl lives. This one just has insufferable gooners who refuse to play anything besides Owlcat games. Wish they would pick up a dating sims!
>>543173080[200 word description of Imoen, emphasizing how young and sexy she is][Insight check suceeded] [You recognize your little sister]1. Who are you again?2. I'm sorry, Imoen, I don't have time for you today.3. [Evil] (Smack her in the face) Out of my way, child! I've no time for your nonsense!
>>543176405Imoen is mainly sexy because she's your sister, not because of her intrinsic looks
why is the 40cuck screeching and shitting his pants this time
>>543176872they always do that if you don't "respect" the serious deep lore
>>543176718>Imoen isn't sexy>Posts image of attractive woman Imoen's portrait was based off of
Excuse me? What the fuck are these options?
>>543177603This happens a lot in Owlcat's games, but most egregiously around Yrliet after Comorragh.
>>543177603The warrior one is really stupid. You wouldn't say that under any circumstancesThe damnation one is fineShe gives the same answer no matter what you pick lmao, it's one of those types of choices.All it affects is her flag points.
Please don’t talk about games I don’t like. No, I will NOT post about anything else.
>>543178003nobody cares about solasta bro geez
>>543170641People have been reacting against the "dudebro gamer" since the mid 2000s when the 360 brought them into the hobby. Understandable didn't you say that video games are "gay nerd shit". It was unwarranted however they were for the most part chill and content to play Halo splitscreen and leave the rest of us in peace. It was the quirky blue haired people that were the real danger.
>>543177603You vill let Yrilet kill those filthy monkeigh and you vill thank her for it. Every option excluding killing her as soon as you get the chance just leads to you getting fucked over.
I don't trust anyone with Imoen except GW
>>543178260>Every option excluding killing her as soon as you get the chance just leads to you getting fucked over.This is literal bullshit btw, you get a worse outcome with respect to your worlds getting raped by Biel-Tan eldar I think it is
>>543178260>You vill let Yrilet kill those filthy monkeighThat's not what's being talked about you dumb shitShe isn't proposing to kill any humansThey're talking about something that has already taken place before your ship arrived
>>543177603Sacrifice her stone
khalid isn't a bad fighterjaheira is a terrible druid
>>543178785it's as hard to be a bad fighter as it is to be a good druid. midmatched couple tbqhf.
>>543177603Just choose option 1If you don't like her getting Damnation points, adjust it in toybox
>>543168308>>543169190>>543169865>>543170131You're all correct, and we're not the minority even though they'd like us to think we are. They just spout their brain-diarrhea more.The solution is to not give it attention, and to post better discussion. Reporting off-topic or low-quality is also fine, it costs a few seconds and does actually occasionally work. Giving it attention is not good, but it isn't bad to call it out, showing to others who also find it unfunny and dull, that they're not alone in thinking that.Again, shitposting is an inherently social activity. The drive is human connection, but they've either burned irl bridges or never had them to begin with, so the intense thirst drives them to attempt antagonistic attention-grabbing posts. It's better for you, the general, and ultimately them as well, to just "starve the beast."
The only good poster here is the guy posting his Shadowrun game
>>543178924I don't really agree with 1 either.>adjust it in toyboxI've never been good at editing etudes/flags in these tools. I was more stunned that there were only two choices, both equally awful, and how they effected her endings.
>>543169865>>543179020Which one
>>543179289Both seem reasonable
I'm not the only one who thought that Kingmaker had a better artstyle than Wrath, am I?
>>543179020Its not so much the shitposts, those are still good, but its more reddit-like finger-wagging that I refer to when I mention the bots changing their tune.There's more longform moralising and mental gymnastics for little neuroticisms that didn't used to be a thing.
>>543175916I just think sisters of battle are neat. Shame that she has like no fucking content after the 2/3rds mark
>>543179367In most cases yes, but I found those fat wyrms too silly and I didn't like the gnome portraits, but in everything else yes I agree.
>>543179367The UI especially was downgraded.
>>543179174>I was more stunned that there were only two choices, both equally awful, and how they effected her endings.Yeah it's really low effort. I felt the same way about that exact dialogue. Neither reply makes sense really.It's like they wanted you to affect her with conversation, but didn't want to go to the trouble of actually writing it, so they did it hastily and resentfully, just the bare minimumThe effort factor really drops in Act 4.>I've never been good at editing etudes/flags in these toolsIn this case, go Search n' Pick, choose Flags from the leftmost column, and search for "Path"It's fun sometimes to mess around with
>>543179118God I'd fucking kill for another shadowrun title. Love that franchise almost as much as I hate the ip holders, and I hate the ip holders so much it's unreal
>>543179367Wrath's artstyle felt more generic/souless, which is ironic because KM hews closer to fantasy tropes. KM's monster and armor designs could get weird, whereas in Wrath, they were generic knights, demons, and cultists. KM's graphics and lightings also just popped way better than Wrath.
>>543179737>In this case, go Search n' Pick, choose Flags from the leftmost column, and search for "Path">It's fun sometimes to mess around withoh shit I'm 1-1 right now bros. this here's the tie breaker.
>>543179923Choose wiselyYou wouldn't want to send you silly little xenos pet down the wrong pathShe has no thoughts in her head except what you put there
>>543179118I do appreciate the Shadowrun play by play, makes me want to play it again but also it feels like better post content than usual (not a high bar to clear, granted).
>>543179923>So how did you become a cutthroat pirate, Captain Yrliet?>Someone I knew once made an offhand remark on a jungle planet, centuries ago>For me, that was the turning point
>>543179805SR:HK poster here, enjoying HK a lot, looking forward to DF. >I hate the ip holders so much it's unrealWhy? I don't know anything really, except that they seem to have shifted gears to that 1st person thing that I'm not interested in. Assuming it's Harebrained Schemes we're talking about
>>543178785Khalid is a good archer. Jaheria is a good druid because she can do the two things druids are good for and still be useful after that.
>>543180114What's funny is it takes almost nothing, like just "play game, have thoughts, screenshot, post thoughts"I wish more people would do it with whatever they're playing. Someone recently said "playing BG but nobody wants to see that again" well, I would like seeing that, especially over some of the other garbage posts here.
>>543180217>condone an obviously ridiculous slaughter or I'll become a pirate elantach >:(Seriously who okayed this?
>>543179367It's because CDPR poached the art-director and a few other artists (like Valeriy Vegera) from Owlcat between games. It's also why the portraits in KM were generally more attractive and stylistically coherent than Wrath.
>>543180309>the two things druids are good forinsect swarm and what?
>>543180465I second that, the original, real, Baldur's Gate games are my favorites. There's a lot of posters that shit on it to be contrarian though, so maybe thats why. Or maybe there's a concern it'll trigger that one anon who likes to pollute the thread with BG3 content.
>>543178785>>543180309Khalid is also pretty much the only straight-up human male fighter I can think of that's actually memorable, and that's really only because of the simple expectation-flip of him being cowardly.I headcanon his axe pip is from growing up in a lumber family, maybe his older brother was a soldier so he tried doing that too but really isn't cut out for it, but is still trying anyhow.
>>543179289I'm >>543169865 and I've noticed that whenever I reply in good faith, not wanting to get dragged into a retarded argument it usually stops the shitposters in their tracks. I'll address their points if any are raised, but I won't call them out on their retardation, because usually that's precisely what those people are looking for. If it degenerates into just name calling and insults I stop replying outright.
>>543179923I'm 90% sure one of the choices in Cumrag is reversed. You tell her something like>so long as some of you survived, there's hopeand that's a warrior point, yet to get a second warrior point you have to tell her>yeah actually you should have stayed and fought the plague, even if it killed youwhich is the opposite sentiment
>>543180759>There's a lot of posters that shit on it to be contrarian thoughshrug>pollute the thread with BG3 contentanother shrugJust do the correct thing, that's all. It invites more people to do the correct thing. Like that anon mentioning broken window theory, but in reverse.
I find that Khalid is a bit overdone with his stuttering
>>543180913that might actually be why I'm 1-1 and when put together like this it looks intentional, which makes these jungle comments even stupider.
Now who's the heretic, "Holy Sister"
>>543181068he's for sure a caricature, but all BG1 characters are really
>>543177603What would the icono response here be?
>>543179367I like Kingmaker's more relaxed atmosphere compared to WotR's bombastic high stakes one a lot more. Compare these two world exploration songs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCppfsQvR_shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgs4g-FPwzQ
>>543180672Nature’s beauty. Plus iron skin.
>>543181815I liked the Fey and the Lantern King as antagonists more than the demons as well.
>>543181431[Iconoclast] You may have a claim to the worlds you call Lilaethan, but not here. Your ancestors didn't terraform this world. You just want to take it from people who are weaker than you, and I won't allow that. But there is a chance that everybody can win, if you agree to do things my way.
Rogue trader but with mechanicus gameplay
>>543181815Laid back into high stakes is the best (usually after some crisis that occurs towards middle that shakes up the gameworld), but I haven't seen an RPG pull it off effectively since the classical Baldur's Gate saga or Planescape.
I like you! Die!
>>543182419Morrowind has a pretty nice flow, where early you're basically told to explore the open world, and the 'main quest' can open up from that.Only barely a 'crpg' by my own heart's definition though.
Pavel you fucking retard you just stood there while those skeletons beat my wizard ass
>>543182690cam plz
>>543181815Mythic Power from WotR is a top tier fantasy song, and Kingmaker's mellow fey forest music is one of the most relaxing 'magic forest' songs I've ever heard, so I think both do have things to offer just in different ways.
>>543183036who's Pavel and what game (I think NWN but haven't played forever) and why didn't he help your wizard ass?
I just get sick of everyone kissing my ass in wotr.
>>543182690Ember said this
>>543183036
>>543183036I want to see WotR adapted to the NwN engine.
>>543183451The last thing you hear before a hellfire ray completely explodes your body
>>543183252It's NWN and he's the designated starter companion. He just sorta stood there
>>543182419Funnily enough, Oblivion can play exactly like this depending on when you trigger the gates to start appearing/go to Kvatch. Morrowind too, with Blight, like the other guy said.Not exactly CRPGs either, but some Pokemon games pulled it off as well, with the start just being becoming a master then the bad guy team causing a major threat later on. One final game I think's worth mentioning in the vein of changing the game world is Dark Souls; the loss of the maiden was an excellent demonstration of how to change the world in a way that will effectively motivate the player without breaking immersion. I know these aren't really CRPGs I just wanted to post because I really like when games do this. Actions have consequences, and I think most gaymers are conditioned into ignoring this through quicksaves or looking up guides beforehand. More games should encourage players to avoid savescumming and spoiling themselves, not through making it difficult, but by simply making it more fun not to.
>>543183451>Too late for apologies!
>>543182068WOTR demons are hilarious though. Literally an evil enemy force you never have to feel bad about destroying or torturing en masse no matter your alignment
>>543180809Mintharafag why are you extra autistic today
>>543184279It's his birthday.
When will someone make a rogue campaign that isn’t adwr
How am I meant to respond to this with anything besides gunfire? What the fuck owlcat.
>>543185757this is lore accurate space elf behavior
>>543185860Then don't make the xenos companion fervently loyal to them? I really didn't mind jimmy but I'm starting to understand the criticism about the RT's retinue being too mainstream.
>>543185757Please spoiler space elves they’re triggering and I’m shaking right now
>>543185994>don't make the xenos companion fervently loyal to them?that's lore accurate space elf behavior
>>543186172This isn't a historical document anon. They could have written a corsair. They chose to make a loyal craftworlder.
chaos is....LE BAD!!!
>>543183760
>>543185757Try [observe the camp] again, and there should be some other options
>>543183760You're full of shit I can read the combat log and it clearly says Pavel killed Weak Skeleton.Sounds like you just stood there while Pavel was a righteous crusader doing his duty.
>>543185151sad
>>543181112The cumrag writing is schizoChessboard with the farseer spirit:>we'll take it back to the ship, we might be able to figure something out>whatever you think is best elantachon the other hand>*move a chess piece*>elantach NOOOO what are you DOIN you're stupid even for a mon-keigh>*produces a spirit stone from her bag and transfers the farseer's sprit into it*
>>543187270The only option I didn't click was the icono one to tell Calligos to stand down. I don't want to stand down, now I have to kill Yrliet and have Nocturne swear vengeance. This has to be one of the worst written sequences across their three games. This is as bad as the hellknight kickstarter quest in kingmaker. I'm astonished right now.
>>543187546>I didn't want to pick the diplomatic option>now I have to kill her
>>543187656Diplomatic? They just told me to my face they have no intention of diplomacy, either I fuck off and forget about their slaughter or kill them. Who the fuck is picking option A here?
>>543181815>>543179367I liked Kingmaker more in general than WotR.>Nicer maps and more varied, lots of greenery, but also snowy season, the weird loopy fey forests, the more tundra-like Varnhold, Pitax's city feel (brief as it was), etc.>More variety of enemies, WotR is 90% demons, often accompanied by cultists, very, very occasionally sprinkled with a handful of undead. Kingmaker while still fey centric has a lot more variety throughout, mites and kobolds, then trolls, then goblins and beasts, then undead, then human armies, then finally the fey parade.>Relatively more entertaining and unique villains with motivations that are rarely seen in rpgs (compared to every demon just being "I'm a demon doing demon things" plus Areelu just wanting revenge for her son and to revive him).>Cast of characters might be hit or miss for some on both games, but it's undeniable that by the end of both, Kingmaker's feels a lot more like a close group of companions that have forged a bond through the adventures despite their differences, by WotR's end half your companions would still murder the others if given an excuse.>Your character is legit just a normal adventurer in it for the adventure, fame and fortune, and possibly nymph pussy.
>>543187546>I don't want to stand down>somehow this leads to violenceWhat did you expect you dumb shitHow did you expect to avoid violence without telling Calligos not to start combat?
>>543187781I wish Salad’s portrait wasn’t so fugly.
>>543187781It's too bad the entire game is structured around one of the worst campaign mechanics in any crpg.
>>543187768If you choose the iconoclast option then they back down, agree to stop killing humans, and in return you kill TervantiasThe game practically thumps you over the head with how scared and tired the eldar are, and how they are beginning to doubt their tactics. Or didn't you pass those [Awareness] checksI can't believe how fucking stupid you are
>>543187809>>somehow this leads to violenceIt's more Yrliet and Nocturne joining them. The dialogue went out of it's way to say Nocturne was fond of me. Fuck me all eldar die on first contact in any further playthroughs.
>>543187898Well, yes, but WotR has it too and then you add a gutted HoMM battle system that's basically just there to get cheesed with one wizard general doomstack.
>>543187979Why would I care to defend them? I literally ask them to stand down and they say "no fuck you, YOU stand down." What kind of faggot just accepts that? Them being ridiculous is less of an issue than NPCs I've already interacted with through the game being ridiculous.
>>543187979Autists don't get any bonuses to irl awareness checks unfortunately.
>>543187768After you get Calligos to back down, this is what you getThe eldars will leave and there won't be any more killingJust reload and do it right.
>>543188342No I'm sick of these knife eared faggots. She stays dead and Nocturne can go fuck himself.
>>543187980>The dialogue went out of it's way to say Nocturne was fond of meHe likes you but not that much. He went to a lot of trouble to keep this group of eldar alive, he didn't expect you to chimp out>>543188150>I literally ask them to stand down and they say "no fuck you, YOU stand down."Yes and? Did you expect everyone to just do what you say immediately? This isn't even a Valancius planet. The option to avoid killing is right there if you can stop being an autist for a minute.
>>543188586>he didn't expect you to chimp outMe? They were slaughtering randos. How exactly did that help them find the Haemonculus?>Did you expect everyone to just do what you say immediately?Well there's a saying for times like this. Vae Victis
>>543188472At first:>oh no I hope I haven't set Yrliet on the wrong path, I'd better check her flags. I care about her so muchBut then>WHAT do you mean you won't instantly capitulate. You mean I have to negotiate?? ME???? Do you know who I am!?!?!
>>543188472I hate muhreenfags man
>>543188737>They were slaughtering randos.It was really weak writing how Yrliet had nothing negative to say about this. It would have been a good place for character growth. Stupid encounter and writing.
>>543188748Cry about it. I'm officially radicalized. No more suffering the knife eared xenos to live.>>543188901She literally says she's cool with it. More than that she outright approves.
le....heresy XD
Dragonfall crew looks cool
>>543189350blitz is a goofball
>>543187781Yeah I agree with most of these points but then I actually try to play Kingmaker and it feels awful. WOTR has varied and good challenges from the get-go and makes you feel very powerful very quickly. Kingmaker is lower powered and the entire first act from mansion to Stag Lord is a slog especially that fucking tree
>>543189350
>>543189350Me on the left in the back
>>543189005True, brother! :D
Is this actually a joke about fags in girls' clothing or am I missing something?
>>543180232Good on you anon, I actually like dragonfall the best since it's a bit higher stakes once the balls rolling and Glory is one of my favorite companions>Assuming it's Harebrained Schemes we're talking aboutNope, for video games it's now Microsoft and for the actual tabletop system it's catalyst games as far as I know and catalyst has since some really scummy shit like not paying their freelance writers and releasing really shit shadowrun editions with little to no playtesting, just to name a couple
>>543185757>my race is superior god eldar are so based...
>>543192561Has there ever been a shadowrun edition that wasn't an absolute mess?
>>543187781tristian and jaethal kill eachother in the final dungeon. though i guess if your doing a good guy playhthrough you'll already have had jaethal an hero because she learns being an undead is cringe and she should just move on from this mortal coil
look at this dood
I remember Nok Nok dying in the final dungeon despite doing everything right in his questline
>>543192784You can get them not to if you get both of their good endings. Then you catch up to them and reveal they didn't kill each other over those illusions because "I know well enough they wouldn't do what the illusion showed".
>>543156850Eh, it's not that hard, and has been done before in various fiction. Just have her respect you if you respect her, and have her interested in human culture if you show interest in eldar culture. I think the problem with Yrliet is that you have to simp for her and her people, while she will go to the grave saying monkey suck and you will always be a disgusting monkey but you have on ok soul underneath being a monkey. The effort feels one-sided. Which is unhealthy for any relationship, regardless of species or setting.I am one of the few people who actually doesn't mind not having sex. You can have an asexual romance in your game, that's actually fine. But just have the character say she's asexual, you don't need to describe her shuddering and suppressing vomit in scenes. And asexual people tend to still enjoy sitting close or holding hands, since those are displays of emotional intimacy as well. It's sex that they tend not to like, so Yrliet could still enjoy sitting close or holding hands, as displays of emotional intimacy. Eldar also do those things with each other. Being asexual doesn't mean you don't like holding hands, and being eldar doesn't mean you don't like holding hands.I actually liked the meditation scenes, she says you soothe her soul, and she is willing to break her spirit stone for you. She also stays with you for 50+ years in one of the epilogues. So there is some legitimacy to the relationship, which I feel the more vocal naysayers forget. But it just has a few details that owlcat could have relaxed on that make it still feel weird or uneven in some ways.I don't particularly want to have sex with the kroot in the next game, but I am curious what the rest of her romance will be like. You can be interested in a person and want to learn about them and see how their culture does courting/romance, without necessarily wanting to jump to sex. I would enjoy more intimacy other than sex in games. Yrliet just had a few other weird things.
What is the Neutral version of I don't like you! die!
>>543193556Yrliet would also be much improved if you had conversations about deeper topics so there's some foundation to the relationship. This is alluded to but not really shown.
>>543193662You disrupt the balance! I'll end you!
>>543193556>asexual romanceOne of those words doesn't mean what you think it means. Romance and sex are inseparable. Asexual means without sex.
>>543156850Same as Yrliet but take out the "humans make me vomit" thing which isn't exactly canonical, they just made it up.
>>543193662Die!
>>543193662I have no feelings about you one way or the other, die!
>>543193662I'm ambivalent towards you! Die!
>>543193556>And asexual people tend to still enjoy sitting close or holding hands, since those are displays of emotional intimacy as well.I'm not familiar with the romance/character but just spitballing here, what if Yrliet was meant to be a highly autistic person for whom any physical contact is uncomfortable? If sex is already off the table and that's the angle they were going for, what does it matter that she doesn't like holding hands etc? Like the difference is so minimal it's weird to decide the romance sucks without it
>>543156850Yrliet but you go on dates>stargazing>show her how to use a vox pip>she shows you how to use an eldar rifle
>>543194260They did keep saying how uncomfortable she is around her own peopleThe one time an eldar touches her as far as I know is in Commorragh and she immediately kills him
>>543193778Asexual romance is possible its just entirely boring at best, or tragic at worse (gelding/castrating). Though I've never really heard of a story where a castrated character still gets the girl.Asexual sexualities are more common amongst women, and its likely some hormone issue I think.
>>543193778False. Romance and sex are not inseparable. Asexual means without sex, and asexual romance means romance without sex. There is no contradiction here, and you are the one who doesn't understand the terms. People who are courting will often not have sex, and people who are asexual will also often not have sex despite desiring a relationship for emotional intimacy (though often times asexual people will have sex just for the sake of their partner even if they don't enjoy it).We've already been over this in this in the past:>>542238851
>>543194523>I feel lonely among my own kinShe's just like me for real
>>543194542Romance without sex would have made more sense for Cassia desuCourtly Love is all about that
>romance without sex Beta male shit if im being honest.
>>543193778>Romance and sex are inseparable. Either you think thata) old couples are no longer in love with each other, which is pretty cynical. are your parents still together?b) old couples still have sex with each other, which is pretty gross. do you like thinking aobut your parents doing the deed?
Odds I play KingmakerEvens I continue this Pillars 1 run I'm getting kind of bored of
>>543194907Alright it was meant to be I guess. This playthrough I'm thinking Aldori Swordlord since they basically own sponsor you
>>543194260Yeah I considered this as well. She is described as hard to get along with even by other eldar, and most eldar don't agonize over a monkey sying they're hot they just say no. She's an outcast for a reason, and her own people are not particularly happy to see her, yet the welcome other eldar we find such as the eldar from Gomorrah we bring to Janus. I actually believe there was some effort to write Yrliet as abnormal even among eldar, and to be somewhat autistic even among eldar, which plays into her overall behavior.But if that were the case, then you can have the character say she's not interested in sex and politely refuse physical intimacy. They didn't need to have her saying racial slurs every other scene, and describe how she shudders and shows revulsion every time it comes up, and ending the romance if you place your hand on hers instead of her just politely saying she doesn't like contact. You can write a romance with a character who doesn't like any physical contact at all, but you should just have them say that. You don't need to convey that idea through them throwing up in their mouth at the sight of you and calling your retinue monkeys every scene. It can be done differently than they chose to do it, and most people would have reacted better to her simply politely saying she doesn't like physical intimacy of any kind. You'd still have some people here saying "WHAT? NO SEX?!?!", but more people would understand and be ok with it, if it was framed more politely.
>>543194260Wild that some guy can pick up on this shit from looking at screencaps and the rest of you can't.
>>543195206All that overreaction and revulsion just adds to the interpretation as her being an undiagnosed autist, but not even understanding herself. She interprets her own oddities through the lens of racism, which is acceptable to her culture, rather than admitting she has a serious problem.
>>543194537>>543194542My dictionary literally has this as the definition for romance:>Romance refers to the actions and feelings of people who are in love, especially behavior that is very caring or affectionate.And for love:>Love is a very strong feeling of affection toward someone who you are sexually attracted to.Unless you're using some trannied up dictionary, there's no possible way to separate romance from sex as a concept. You don't need actual sex--romance in the chivalric sense rarely got to that point, at most it was implied in the happy ending. But the sexual attraction is there, and without that there's no romance.
>>543194891>b) old couples still have sex with each other, which is pretty gross. do you like thinking aobut your parents doing the deed?Does he know?Who do you think the little blue pills were developed for?
>>543195817>but the dictionary definition says I wintouch grass
>>543195927I accept your concession.
>>543195817That dictionary has been long lost by the 41st millennium
>>543193662I LOVE GOLD I'M A BOUNTY HUNTER DIE
>>543193556How do you feel about women dreaming without your consent. The fact that you are a 40kfag makes you another shade of insufferable.
fact: romance between species with different lifespan never works outwhat would your elf waifu think of you when you're 70 and can no longer get it up
>>543156850The easy mode ones are:>Eldar farseer who has seen in visions that the human male is vital to the survival of her craftworld also happens to see in the vision that eventually they're gonna make out and stuff and hilarity ensues as she's constantly at odds between ew filthy mon-keigh and how the vision actually made her out to be pretty happy. Bonus points if the constant tiptoeing and confusing will-they-won't-they actually makes the human male constantly reach the wrong conclusions and thinks she's planning to betray him or something since she never reveals the full scope of the vision, so eventually there's an awkward but ultimately happily resolved confrontation.or>Corsair/deldar who just gets off to how depraved the interracial is.
Another exciting day in autist whines about his right to fuck fictional space elves general.
>>543195896Matrix props
>>543196509>finally, I can have peace from his insatiable desires
>>543196509Imperial humans have a much longer lifespan provided they don't die
>>543196509Worked fine with Neelix and Kes
>>543156850>>543196527Oh and>Harlequin who's just not racist and doesn't get what all the fuss is about, common imperial citiziens are some of the best spectators her troupe gets.
>>543195448Yeah I like the explanation that Yrliet is just severely autistic in addition to being an eldar and I figured as much as well, but that has a couple problems as well. She's an outcast ranger who has spent a reasonable amount of time in the company of humans, traveling on their ships and staying on Janus for an extended period of time, and traveling throughout the entire sector looking for lost eldar. So the idea that she did all this while being so extremely autistic that she can't even voice a simple preference and has to throw up kind of doesn't mesh. But that's on owlcat, and I still think it's overall the most sensible theory, and that they did a good job of portraying someone who doesn't communicate well with anyone including herself, despite that backstory issue.>>543195817>And for love:>>Love is a very strong feeling of affection toward someone who you are sexually attracted to.Nope. Sexual attraction is not required for love. If you've really never loved someone without being sexually attracted to them, then I have to wonder what your relationship with your siblings, parents, grandparents, close friends, dog, and other things you're supposed to love is like.Or how you would attempt to explain people who don't feel sexual attraction due to being asexual, yet do have strong emotional love for their spouse. There are simple and easy everyday examples that disprove the idea that love must involve sexual attraction.Eros is love that does involve physical attraction.Phileo is love that is born from from familiarity.Agape is love that is intrinsic in humans.Storge is love of families and friends.If your worldview only contains one form of love, only the first one on this list, then you have an incomplete understanding of the term. Love is a wide emotion, and if you have difficulty understanding love not within the context of your penis, then give this page a skim:https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/14816053-the-four-loves
Spare the metamagic rod, spoil the spellcaster.
>>543196509>being the one with the shorter lifespanrookie mistake.
>>543196770This would have been an interesting conversation to have with Yrliet>well for a million years our lifespan was only maybe fifty years>It's different now. Theodora was centuries old and nobody thought she was old. >But we're still the same people inside, that's why we seem preoccupied with reproducing fast
>>543196570I don't understand why it has to be specifically 40gay elves. Many series have elves, why does he want this one?
>>543196967>spent a reasonable amount of time in the company of humansIt's a pity this was never brought up, like ever. She never really talks about her past.
>Today anons learn about loveI'm convinced most of the world is illiterate and/or uneducated, even the first world.
>>543198182Romance only exists when you're nutting in your girl, and at no other time.
>>543196509I mean females already have about a 5-10% longer lifespan than males in the western world, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a lot more in undeveloped countries since 7 years out of 70 is a lot less than 7 out of 40 (~10% vs ~18%). The question that's more important is timing the deaths. If elves live twice as long as humans but get married 50 years before they die, and humans also get married 50 years before they die, it's fine. It's when the elf plans to live for 200 more years after his wife's death that things get weird.
>>543198182some males can only think with their dicks and nothing else and you should feel sorry for them
>>543198182Love is when I give a girl enough gifts to fill up her sex meter and I’m rewarded with a line that says I had sex
THoughts on black geyser?
>>543192561Microsoft shitting everything up, I couldn't be less surprised
>>543198739Who's even in charge now? It's not Ballmer anymore is it?
>>543196967ESL?Love as in familial love and love as in romantic love are two different words that happen to share the same form. As you pointed out, in other languages the concepts don't share the same form. They're different, and defined differently in dictionaries. The word 'fast' can mean both to go quickly (adjective) and to abstain from eating (verb). Really, there's two different words there, we just use the same spelling and vocalization, and differentiate with context. Even with the same part of speech we do this regularly, such as in the following example:>The man went to the bank to deposit a check, having finished working at the factory.>The man went to the bank to retrieve his towel, having finished swimming in the river.
>>543198897No one refers to a riverbank by just bank, they'll say riverbank or shore.
Holy shit. Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your head for anything other than "dolly smooching".Like, this presents as legit mental illness. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you're probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other mentally ill people, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off the screen or phone. Sit in silence for a second. Think about your life.Is this who you want to be?
>>543199031I like to shitpost anonymous online about dolly smooching on a basket weaving forum
>>543199031You're shaming the disabled and asexual
>>543198897Whenever anyone calls anyone els on this fucking website they always follow it up with the most illiterate pseud shit imaginable
>>543199018>Bank that shot!>Bank that check!>Watch out for that bat, the batter threw it after hitting a home run!>Watch out for that bat, the furry suckers can have rabies!>Man, that dog's bark is really loud.>Man, that tree's bark is really rough.
>>543199031>Is this who you want to be?Yes
>>543199328No one banks a check, they deposit it.
>>543198897Any dictionary worth its worth in salt distinguishes romantic love from sexual desire itself and one does not imply the other. You're simply wrong even if you try to be pedantic and weasel some kind of semantic win.
>>543199317>accidentally a word while calling someone else illiteraterip me
>>543199317Sir, your argument?Or am I to accept your concession as well, having resorted to baseless name calling?
>>543199475>romantic love>sexual desire >one does not imply the otherRight. I'm not concerned that my wife doesn't want to sleep with me, and occasionally does sleep with other men. In fact I support it.
Holy shit.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your head for anything other than "I am owed sex with space elves".Like, this presents as legit mental illness. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you're probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other mentally ill people, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off the screen or phone. Sit in silence for a second. Think about love without sex.Is this who you want to be?
>>543198182That dude talking about love has only fallen in love with video game characters
>>543199475NTA and I agree that romance and sexual desire are different, but dictionaries shouldn't be cited as good examples of anything ever since they collectively decided to change definitions on the fly to fit current day politics, such as around the definition of racism.
>>543199618>instantly reverts back to hysterical cuck insecurityLol
>>543199475>t.
Holy shit.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your head for anything other than "I am the law".Like, this presents as legit mental illness. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you're probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other mentally ill people, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off the screen or phone. Sit in silence for a second. Think about your lawjaw.Is this who you want to be?
>>543199683That's the point. Even with the last resort argument of whipping out the dictionary to prove someone wrong, that anon is still wrong.
Holy shit.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your head for anything other than "[Attack] I don't like you. Die!".Like, this presents as legit mental illness. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you're probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other mentally ill people, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off the screen or phone. Sit in silence for a second. Think about your alignment.Is this who you want to be?
My mental illness? Coming back here
Holy shit.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your head for anything other than "Space elves aren't real".Like, this presents as legit mental illness. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you're probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other mentally ill people, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off the screen or phone. Sit in silence for a second. Think about your elf denialism.Is this who you want to be?
Is this some discord group spamming together?
>>543199894Ember...
>>543198897You are still mistaken. I just explained to you the different forms of love, after you conflated them together and said you can't love someone without sexual attraction, which is false, because that is only one of the forms of love. Then you call me esl. I gave you an explanation of the forms of love and a link to read more in good faith, so you can learn, and all you can muster is trying to explain to me what a homonym is, but you don't know the term homonym so you explain it without just saying the term.You're also still wrong by the way. "Love as in familial love" and "love as in sexual love" are not different words, they are both still love. So trying to say love is a homonym isn't even correct anyway. Love has different meanings depending on context, but they're all still love. You love your mother, you love your spouse you're sexually attracted to, you love your dog, and you love your best friend. These are all love, the same word, but with different meanings depending on context. More elegant languages do have different terms for these different types of love, but read what I just wrote. They're different words, but still for the different types of love. It's all love. Differentiating the different types of LOVE with different more nuanced terms still doesn't change that you're describing the different forms of love.You are only thinking of eros and neglecting phileo, storge, and agape. Your definition of love is only one of the four actual definitions of love. People are telling you this, linking more info for you to read, and acting in good faith to help you expand your understanding of an important aspect of life. You were straight up incorrect when you made the claim "love involves sexual attraction", and multiple people in good faith have explained why. It is now up to you to read what was linked and learn, or continue to sit there saying "no...it is everyone else including CS Lewis and every greek and classical philosopher who is ESL"
I don't have a mental illness but I wish I did
>I don't feel eros for you Elantach but I do feel agape>Do you feel the same?
>>543200117You really don't have to use chatgpt everywhere
>Yrliet's mouth was agape after Marazhai pulled down his pants>A gape is what Marazhai did to Yrliet after she left the Rogue Trader
>Look up "Agape" in the dictionary>It's this picture
wimp pseud: akshually the definilogical definitions of love as stated by the greats are...beloved individual: *inherently knows love*
>>543200117>still relying on other languages to cope with his English deficiencieslmaoing, holy copeAlright roachy, here's the deal: it's not a homonym. It's a polysemy. They are different, but related, words. If you're talking about romantic love, pivoting to say 'but what about this familial love!!' is pointless, and disingenuous. Related but separate concepts. You wrote three paragraphs to say, "Nuh uh, it’s all love because I say so," and then cherry-picked Greek words like you're in Philosophy 101 trying to impress the professor. You don't sound educated — you sound like a teenager who read a Wiki article and now thinks they’ve unlocked the mysteries of human connection. Also, nobody is saying you can’t feel affection without wanting to bang someone — that’s not the argument. The claim is that romantic love — the kind that drives pair bonding, life partnerships, and all that — is rooted in sexual attraction. You’re trying to sneak in "agape" and "storge" like that somehow refutes it. You’re just shifting goalposts and congratulating yourself for it.And throwing out "ESL" as a defense? You literally proved my point. You misunderstood basic linguistic distinctions and then got mad someone explained them in plain English because you didn’t know the terms. The irony is delicious.
day 436 of idiotic sex obsessed incels incapable of conceptualizing a valid romance that isn't about sticking penis inside vagina
>>543200879>gay people can't experience romance
Is this the same incel that was talking about how he was too good for women.
This love talk isn't a crpg, shut up
>>543201016Fact
Holy shit.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your neural buffer for anything other than running jobs and chasing credsticks.Like, this presents as genuine derealization. I hope you can maybe recognize that, but you’re probably too far gone, and feel enabled by other wired-up husks, to admit this.Literally get a grip. Challenge: Turn off your deck or dampen your implants. Sit in silence for a second. Think about your meatspace body.Is this who you want to be?
>>543201185The waifufags have never played a crpg.
A game where you play as cupid but can never find love yourself
>>543191317you just have brain rot, its talking about disabling people
I can't wait for dark heresy to come and save this general
>>543201309>no slang>not even a chummer or omae0/10
>>543200879>The claim is that romantic love — the kind that drives pair bonding, life partnerships, and all that — is rooted in sexual attraction.It's a completely idiotic and absurd claim. The romantic love that drives marriages to last for decades, survive cancer and hardship, survive even the loss of libido (because of depression, grief and whatnot) is absolutely not predicated in how often the two bang each other or think about sex. Commitment, emotional closeness and intimacy do not require sexual intercourse or sexual desire. So no, the other person is correct in bringing up the different facets of romantic love as we collectively define it and contrast it with other forms of love. You're just too stupid or stubborn to realize that your narrow definition of romantic love isn't, in practice, how most people think of it. Close the dictionary and go out in the real world and talk to real people.
>>543201016They can't. They experience a blasphemous mockery of love
The last major chunk of this thread is rooted entirely on justifying sex with eldar women. That's why the anon that can't separate romance from sex is holding on to his position so tightly.I mean these games are fantasy so is it really such a big deal if they did provide what normal lonely human men crave? We don't have to water down definitions.
>>543201318Its so sad
>>543098782I liked the shadows awakening concept where you play as a demon that can turn into creatures he killed while simultaneously assimilating their personalities. A similar thing would be cool for crpg - you play as an entity that possesses your dollies rather than playing pretend to be one of them.
>>543201691The world and rpgs don't revolve around you, bub
>>543201691Actually I haven't even played the 40kids game, I just wanted to meme for a while. Asexuality is fake though, it's just a cope for your dick not working or being a rape victim and being scared of sex.
You can keep posting about wanting to fuck Yrliet but only if you play all of bg1 to ToB with SCS+Ascension first
>>543202036I want to fuck pasqal
Yrliet got absolutely ran through paying her way around the galaxy on corsair ships and more than a few human ships too. She's had enough sex to last a lifetime
>>543200879You said love involves sexual attraction, which is false. When that was explained to you beyond any doubt, you are now switching to saying "well I was only talking about romantic love even though I didn't say that". Your claim was that love involves sexual attraction, not that romantic love involves sexual attraction. You're literally lying about what you said. You didn't say romantic love, you said love.But accepting your concession regarding your original claim about love and switching to your current second claim about romantic love specifically, you're still wrong. Romantic love does not necessitate sexual attraction. Two people can go on dates, talk about their feelings, get married, spend the rest of their lives in romantic emotional bliss, and not be sexually attracted to each other. This happens all the time with persons who are asexual.Additionally, you do not need to be asexual to enjoy romance without sex. People who are courting will often not have sex during the courtship period. Though these people would still feel eros for each other and they plan to have sex in the future, so this doesn't perfectly fit what we're talking about, but it is an example of enjoying romance without sex, an asexual romance. Temporarily asexual in this case.Agape and Storge are types of love that do not involve sexual attraction. They disprove your original assertion that love involves sexual attraction. You pivoting to saying you meant to say romantic love involves sexual attraction, not all love, has been accepted and your original point conceded. That is why other forms of love were brought up.I didn't call you esl. You called me esl. I'm saying it's ridiculous and typical internet immaturity to jump to that when I'm obviously educated. Marriage and relationships was one of my topics of study in college and I have published in a peer reviewed national journal on the topic. So we can skip the immature internet ad hom posturing you introduced.
>>543202036the entire crpg genre is for casualsnobody cares that you beat bg1+2 with your "hardcore" difficulty mods
>haha jokes on you I don’t even play these gamesWow…No way…
>>543202001You're probably not wrong, though there's a lot of women that feel sexual attraction to their partner specifically rather than general lust, and that combined with hormone disruptions (frequently caused by medicinal contraceptives) leads to the delusion of asexuality.Also autism, like in Yrliet's case.
>>543202105SCS isn’t for difficulty. It’s to make the game more enjoyable because the AI is less retarded.
>>543202059same
>>543202098How'd you get ChatGPT to pretend to be a gender studies queer? Or did you add that part yourself?
>>543201548This is correct, and I would even leave off the last part. He was still wrong even considering the dictionary definitions of love.
>>543202098These are your high quality posts that no one can make fun of I see. Mintharafag get a productive hobby.
I have never felt any love (romantic or not) for any other human being in my lifecrpgs for this feel?
>>543201540Holy frag, choomba.Some of you really, truly, unironically, have no room in your aura for anything other than chrome, stim-pops, and stacking credsticks.This ain’t just psychosis, it’s a full astral burnout sprawl-addiction. Enabled by other plugged-in meatbags, you’re probably too far gone to admit it gomi.Kill the deck, ghost the implants, rip the plug, snap out of the feed.Is this the sprawl-dragging husk you want to be?
>>543202534Any Obsidan crpg
>>543202534Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete
>>543202534Solasta
>>543202680>NWN2 + MOTB>POE2>Alpha Protocol
>>543202848Obsidian's romance sucks it counts
>>543202848>Alpha Protocolthe girls in it were surprisingly greatprobably the most coomer obsidian has ever been
>>543202534Bastard Bonds
The next thread should be low-grade clickbait about WotC's new friendly beholders, so we can descend fully to /v/ level.
>>543201734so like prototype, but gooder?
>Yrliet is a severely autistic femcel and closeted lesbianam i up to date with the latest Yrliet research?
>>543203508>first partyes>second partwe just don't know
>>543203702>>543203702>>543203702
>>543203508She finds all monkeys disgusting, and she soul meditates with a male monkey just as much as with a female monkey, so I don't think it's a matter of lesbian or straight. We don't know what her sexual orientation is, just that she seems autistic about physical contact.She's willing to date, or whatever her meditation relationship is, which either sex. But doesn't desire sex with either sex.
>>543203284Prototype isn't a crpg tho
>>543203930anon he's giving you a refrence point stop being a spaz
>>543189350I want to climb the Eiger
>>5431927344e was about the best you could get and even then that's only with you using Chummer, it's always been nuts either to play, to publish or to purchase
I mindbroken the general so badly they talked about me for hours after I left. Thinking it was a total schizo victory.
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