>RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army Released on Steam and Switch 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9Xyh3SciAM>Raidou Remastered World Spotlight:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIr3mDfEAlo>VV has a demo now:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Br8Pt11f0>SMT VV patch 1.0.3 is out. includes 6 new navigators, one new quest and demon>Atlus 2025 Aspirations Tease Upcoming Announcement from Shin Megami Tensei Team, New Experience from Persona Team:https://personacentral.com/atlus-2025-aspirations-tease/>Giten Megami Tensei's partial translation patch for PC-98https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7343/>Vengeance OST scanshttps://imgur.com/a/smtvv-ost-liner-notes-cNN28YJ>Shin Megami Tensei The Board Game Kickstarterhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/smtboardgame/shin-megami-tensei-board-game>Megaten Fusion Tools [For real fusion autists!]https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/home>Archive of 3DS Texture Packshttps://reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/1b6v86u/3ds_games_hd_texture_packs_are_gone/>Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2 soundtracks are now available on digital streaming services>Old neocities site containing info and useful links (no longer updated)https://smtgen.neocities.org/#original-post>SMT TTRPG Campaign PDF:https://files.catbox.moe/rdqfh3.pdf>20XX rereleased on April 24th for the Nintendo Switch. Steam on May 8thhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3652460/GMODE_20XX/>Gmode announced they're rereleasing Smt Tokyo Requiemhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3713410/GMODE/Last cycle: >>542576663
Pixies small bare feet standing on my face
Is Zio training an effective method of correcting problematic behavior from your demons?
The new pokaman game has put a bunch of crossdressing porn from that game on my feed, kind of reminds me of when SMT4A had it. Thought about the costumes that game had too in general that were awesome. But why did SMTV remove costumes when people loved it so much?
are you gonna post this every thread
>>543151727Yeah, enjoy.
>>543151648They were probably planning to charge people for costumes like in all their other modern games but it didn't fully work out. Metaphor had the costume equip menu entirely locked behind DLC, expect it to work like that in SMT6
>>543151648Atlus had little experience with unreal engine when they started developing V, so I guess they wanted to work on the more important stuff and leave out luxuries like multiple costumes for another mainline game.
What do we think about the possibility of a smt iv port/remake soon because of flynn on dx2?
>>543152495Nuwa.... easy on the Magatsuhi......
going into fusion menus and then going back out again
Soul Floppers 2
>>543155262>SMT IV remake God imagine what changes they can make, I'm honestly hoping it's a remake, mostly because I want the same guest character system from VV so I can see what demons Johnathan and Walter are rocking.
For you, /smtg/
>>543161713pyro devouring his brother
spoonfeed me on how to properly make use of the stat/exp miracles in V. I read that to get the best results you should be level 95 and the materials should be 20 levels above the default level. is that all there is to it?
>>543161502It needs to be full 3D with all of IVA's improvements and I'll take less demons as a consequence.
>>543163225>needs to be full 3D ... and I'll take less demons as a consequenceFuck you, retarded zoomshit
真 /smtg/ plays anchor postthe new event for mt and mt2 will accept signups at any date the event is still running.and if you only have time for one of the games, that's okay. pick which one you'd rather play.真 /smtg/ plays page:>https://rentry.org/shin-smtg-playsany suggestions for the event or rentry page?>have you played either of these games before?>excited to play them (or one of them) for the event?>i'm going to host a group watchalong of the dds ova later today at around 8pm est.>how's your playthrough going?>any standout moments?
>>543163587watchalong room:https://cytube/r/shin-smtg-playsadd a period between cytu and be
>>543165983i just put the link on the play site for those interested because 4chan thinks cytube is spam.
Virus IP Grabber
>>543167071level drainer
>>543155262there's also a rumor of nintendo using dual screen support in switch 2 games.
>>543167456No need for it if Atlus is remaking the game. It could indicate Nintendo might bring 3DS games to NSO though.
>>543155542Gotta get to Lv99 somehow...
>>543161502His demons are a bit different
wife
>>543175782i havent played soul hackers yet but I gotta say I would like to do very forceful and perverse things to this semen demon
>>543176014You should, the game is really fun. One of my favorite dungeon crawlers
V is gay.
the anon who said this was on to something
>>543161713That's really good anon!
>>543162861Something like that.
>grinding up resources for demi fiend>in my research saw that Satan is available in NG+>turns out his quest is available in NG? (maybe because I did save a NG+ I'm not going to use in another file) because mastema offered it >well this can't be as bad as demifi-What the fuck is this health pool? Using a spyglass I see he's weak to poison, so I guess I'll try that next.
>>543166983i'm starting soon
>>543183428well, that was fun. has it been decided what we're watching for this year's halloween watchalong? i know prince of egypt was suggested.
>>543161965Hee's the new mascot now...
>>543163587I really need to finally make time to play these and If...they weren't translated yet back when I was in my "cannot escape your hunger" era, otherwise I definitely would have by now.
>>543158290SH2 won in the end btw>Got interviews, art books, a nice collector's edition, and even official artwork by different artists like Soejima>Meanwhile SMT V and Vengeance literally has nothing besides some bread crumbs about "Tao originally having a more gruesome death" and Doi promising a art book that never happened >Meanwhile the Raidou remake happened and bizarrely sold less than SH2 despite all the demands for the Raidou series to be revived
>>543196973>Raidou remake happened and bizarrely sold less than SH2It's still a glorified port of a PS2 game even though they really remade the whole thing.Though I don't know a single person who played SH2.
>>543196973Jesus, how long ago did Doi make that promise that he would talk more about VV, a year? Give or take.
>>543197859why are all japanese devs so bad with communciation? actually seems to be extremely common now a days. I can't think of a single company that's been nailing actually pleasing their audience.
>>543176014play it.
i've realized i'm getting near the end of my sketch book, and I got 97 demon drawings done. i don't know how many pages the next sketchbook i should get should be, i like the compact size i went with, but something bigger offers more details to be drawn in and more pages, but harder to store>>543161713good stuff!
>>543195645why he Char
>>543196973Why do you make exaggerations and lie constantly?
>>543205042Kaneko thought it was cool?
>>543197859It wasn't a promise, it was a tease, which is worse. His exact words after saying "sorry spoilers" were>I'm looking forward to my next opportunity to speak more.In regards to VV in general. Next opportunity could mean anything but right away when you hear that you think next opportunity means they are planning for it. Which means it's more than just a throw away interview just upon hearing it. I don't blame Japs for thinking VV is getting dlc.
yeah yeah Christianity vs Japanese religion #352, can we get a Christianity vs Aztec or Incan religion now?
>>543215395I want Judaism vs. Islam
>>543218936too broad on both sides unless you focus it on something specific like Zevi but idk what you would do with that that wouldn't cause a massive backlash
samarecarm
Bald
>V fags when you tell them that SMT V isn't some flawless 10 out of 10 masterpiece, but a very flawed JRPG that has elements that could hurt future megaten games like with Persona 4 has done back in the day
>>543231396down there?
>>543233738demi needs glasses
543233645how is your grammar still so shit after all these years? it's one of the main reasons I can identify your posts so easily
>>543233645Those are some incredible practical effects
>>543239320Modern movies should reject CGI slop and return to practical kino.
>>543236060Take your meds.
>>543245804I already took my flintstones vitamin
Quick question: does anyone have a link for a complete pack of the Devilman manga which had several fixes and added missing pages that an anon posted a really long time ago?I'm think I accidently the fucking zip file.
>like Jack Frost >use fusion autism to give him endgame-tier ice skills in every game I canWhat is your personal version of this?
>>543253348I used the battle fusion unique skill bypass in IV to make elementals with the DLC archangel unique pierce skills, then grinded all the elementals up with the +stat apps for abominations like this.
>>543253348Almost everyone do that with their favorites, often the waifu/husbando or just the cool ones.
>>543255442Yes but I'm looking for SPECIFIC examples that I may or may not replicate
>>543253348I don't pick favorites. Demons exists for the sake of power and achieving your goals. Weak demons are tossed aside in favor of the strong.
>>543256851Shut the fuck up, Yakumo
>>543255282How homophobic of you.
There is literally nothing wrong with homophobia.
>>543260843Said Dazai, as he was killed by an angry homosexual.
>>543253348Keeping Ace Frost to the end in SJ as moral support or to act as elemental negation.He cannot hit well but he is there
SMT 6-7 when?
Check out this hashtag on twitter for pics from a fairly large smt demon cosplay get together. Even mad brapper was there.#1018メガテン悪魔あわせ
>>543266021This looks like it was genuinely a good time.
>>543261216I pretty much carried Frost Ace and Black Frost through the majority of the back half of the game once I got access to them.
>>543233645>that has elements that could hurt future megaten gamesWhat on earth could hurt MegaTen from V that hasn't already hurt MegaTen from previous absolute slop games? If it's "character assassination of Lucifer" you're 12 years late.
>>543264617We're gonna get another horrible game from the #FE/SH2 team first
>>543253348Mermaid!
>>543253348I usually don't do this but I did it for >>543275071I really wanted my endgame party in V to be Fionn, Kayanohime, and Artemis
I always see this posted on /v/ but what demons do they represent?
>>543280168Throne>Cherub.
>>543280168Throne and Cherub
Brute Al-Zutt
Tyrant Termagant
Tyrant My Mom
ngl I really wanna play SJ but I'm slogging 30 minute at a time through the opening. it's completely draining me of my energy because of the sci-fi and military speak and the sheer amount of it (i'm playing in japanese which also means it's taking longer than normal to get through it)I hope the game opens up soon and it becomes the absolute materpiece I was promised
>he fell for the "SJ is a masterpiece" meme
I don't like purple nahobino...
>>543287670>he's playing ReduxYou're not getting that masterpiece
>Vfags don't like SJ because its an actual dungeon crawler
>>543292359Vengeance actually wanks SJ as hard as base V did Nocturne
>crying about Vfags even when they're not around
>>543292651Vfag derangement syndrome
Vfags could be here...
>>543290587Neither do I. Also Aogami is superior in every way to Koshimizu.
>>543292021im not playing redux actually i was talked out of it
>>543287670>(i'm playing in japanese which also means it's taking longer than normal to get through it)Why?
>>543296565Good, don't let it be your first experience with the game.
whats wrong with redux
>>543297042why would u play a japanese game in a different language? lazy cunts should learn their watashi was
>>543297906Someone needs a random anime girl awkwardly inserted into the plot to tell them what's right and wrong it seems
>>543298118>>543297042you don't get an option with redux anyway, its Japanese VA only
>>543292651>>543292891>>543293304Who else could it possibly be? Use your fucking brain
>>543298692Shut the fuck up Vfag
This is my SMT OC her name is Alex, she's from the future and she's super strong and badass, and she's sexy, she's Lucifer's daughter and she's really hot, and her best friend is Amon and she has a cool supercomputer sidekick, and she's sexy she has a thigh-gap, and she's super strong too she kills you in one hit because she's the strongest and sexiest.What do you guys think? I worked really hard on the design so please be nice. And please DON'T steal OK!
>>543298374I've never played SJ.
>>543298975Everything about this design sucks and clashes with the style of the original game, it's insane. I hate Doi.
>>543297906>StoryAlex is fucking sloppily done, not only with how she interacts with the base plot but also her own arc being fumbled (time travel is bullshit to say the least). She could probably fill out the mary sue checklist.>GameplayWhile I do enjoy the no app point limit + commander apps + Womb of Grief as a whole, the base game was not properly balanced around them whatsoever. Its best to play it with the WoG being your main campaign and the Schwarzvelt being the side quest that is still required for progression because of how powerful the WoG will make you in relation to the sectors.
>>543298975Why did he do it?
>>543287670I felt the same way and it's a problem throughout the game, but the beginning is the worst part. If playing it in Japanese is making it worse then you only have yourself to blame tho...
Asuka if he Slenderman
>>543298975Rape
Asuka wants YOU to play Ronde!
>>543308780Ok I will, how do I set it up
Name 1 demon. I'll wait.
>Look at the SJ/EO team>Find out they made a bunch of random ass games
>>543311886>they're all better than SMT V
>>543311967I need to actually play them before I can make that distinction, but they look promising
>>543311617Gabriel
>>543312523Xhe's an angel, not a demon.
>>543314052Vouivre
>>543311617Alice!
>>543306458>>543308780Did you draw this? I like it a lot!I'm trying to practice drawing Asuka's hair because I wanna make something for Ronde's anniversary this month. You really nailed it
it's mudover
>>543311886You're talking about Lancarse? They codeveloped EO1, EO2, and SJ with Atlus but didn't work with them after that for some reason.Zanki Zero was pretty interesting.
>>543299476Everything about this series and fandom was more enjoyable before IV was revealed. Really before DeSu2 came out.
>they put a hair cut extremely similar to Vkun in Pokemon ZAI wonder if it was deliberate and there is a Vfag in Gamefreak.
>>543332628Post it.
>>543332861
>>543332628>>543332978does he also have gay sex, that would make it clearer
>>543333498No but boys can cross dress and even dress like whores in the game with mini skirts and crop tops.
>>543333607I can already do that in V
>>543332978Hmmm... probably i guess, like maybe 75% certainty.
>>543333703Can you make a webm of the chaos end with Vchan one of these days?
>>543334061uh which route is that, CoC or CoV? I have a save at the end CoC but I'm still working on CoV.
>>543334234Think he's referencing CoV Chaos where you walk down with Yoko, hand in hand.
>>543333607SMT bros... w-we're supposed to be the gay ones...
>>543334489ok i'm not reading that but i'll keep it in mind for when i get there.Or if you want to do it yourself with your save, you should be able to find the mod on GB or Nexus. Also get the feminine sitting animation too
>>543334234CoV but I just remembered that the cutscenes at the end of both routes is pre-rendered so I don't think you can make it happen.
>>543334726Well I'll see. I was able to freecam a few times during some of CoC's "save tokyo" ending. I mostly did it at the credits tho
>>543335318Yeah but this is literally a video file. Switching out the model won't change it. Like how the model won't switch during the fusion cutscene too.
>>543335548Ah ok. I just know there were times I thought it was pre-rendered until I turned on freecam
>>543219128Literally me
>>543329721yeah I was reading up on them
>>543163587beat her. bien was kinda annoying. it sucked running into medusa's shadow enemies randomly when i wasn't prepared. medusa was pretty tough too.
>>543333703>>543334234Gay AF
>>543339261Tao is a yuri queen.
TTW when she sees me make yet another post about her having sexual intercourse with Orthrus/Pazuzu
Meguro or Kozuka?
>>543386856Meguro but he's done more. Kozuka is one of the few good things about modern SMT.
>>543386856Meguro is progressively getting worse. Kozuka is getting better.
>>543386856Definitely not Kozuka after V and VV. My biggest disappointment.
>>543386856Meguro I feel has done more to evolve the JRPG music space as a whole
>>543386856MeguroDude has range, making both persona and SJ tracks is a pretty wide spread.
still slogging through the opening of strange journey i'm this close to quittingif this doesn't turn out to be a masterpiece i'l be very mad and call the people who shilled it several different slurs
>>543390429what were you expecting exactly
>>543390429Don't give up anon
>>543390691less dialogue and less aggressive tutorialsgoing from nocturne straight to this is very jarring but this game's been shilled so much I'll do my best to be patient and get through the first dungeon at least
>>543390429When you say opening, what part do you mean?
>>543391102well it's definitely more dialogue-heavy than nocturne is so that's not going to change
>it's another episode of "retarded newfag plays" Unsubscribed.
>>543390429Its honestly not for everyone, and if you think the beginning is a slog wait til you start encountering the numerous mechanisms by which the game creates one way paths to force backtracking. People like it for the atmosphere, the plot, the relative grittiness, and the soundtrack. The actual dungeon crawling is for a specific niche of people who actually like falling through an unmarked pitfall for the hundredth time in a row.
>>543394426>people who actually like falling through an unmarked pitfall for the hundredth time in a row.Those people? They're me.
>>543394973also me
>>543394426>falling through an unmarked pitfall for the hundredth time in a rowsurprisingly i like that. i 100% mapped everything in nocturne I think which resulted in slight overleveling sadly
>>543390429Demonee-ho says "On-site procure yourself some better taste, fag- I mean maggot!"
Post Gabriel art please!
>>543397534https://litter.catbox.moe/8yl76mng0pw0vpmu.jpg
>>543397534go to school, Dazai
>>543397534Just make your own. There's models for that.
>>543397685He would never...
>>543404002are you ready?
>>543399250Indians in my /smtg/.....
>>543397659Litter is down.
>>543404002Made for big human cock
>>543406738no it's just slow as shit right now
what's next for atlus??? besides the persona 4 remake and raidou 2 remaster what else are they doing?
>>543410027They're remaking SMTIV and wondering how gay they want to make VI
>>543410027persona 6
>>543410267i don't think that's even in active development, isn't the main persona team working on the persona 4 remake?
Studio Zero is likely working on a new IP or a sequel to Metaphor P-Studio is working on the Persona 4 remakeSMT VV team has likely dispersed at this point, as some went to help out with P-Studio while the others went to work on a new EO entryYamai and his team are working on the Raidou 2 remaster
>>543411898No they're remaking SMTIV as a Snitch 2 exclusive.
>>543412347>Yamai and his team are working on the Raidou 2 remasterThat shit flopped, they're doing DDS ports now!
>>543411898>believe me SMT is deadok
>>543413445Raidou 2 Remaster is probable as there are Fukoshi models and NPCs in Raidou Remastered
>>543411898>>543410406>>543410027Is P4 remake leaked or something or just speculation?
>>543417310they announced it months ago
>>543417424Nvm, I'm retarded, I remember the shitty trailer now that I looked it up, I think I just blocked it out because the idea of remaking the worst MegaTen PS2 game AGAIN is so embarassing.
>>543410027All of those demon bitches are going to be disappointed to find out that Raidou is gay.
>>543418061Elements are gay.
>>543418061I'm going to touch you.
>>543419256Why don't fags know how to respect boundaries?
>>543410027Not Etrian Odyssey Next Stage that's for sure
ORAFUCK you say about Chaos, lawboi?
>>543411898>new EO entrylol
Hm VV crit builds really fizzle out at superbosses. Maybe it's just their high stats but through most of mid/late game I felt like my crit rate was finally taking off and now even with dual glees I'm lucky to get 1/5. The crit investment becomes completely useless. Guess this is what the respec items are for.
>>543423858not to be a schizo but I always got gay vibes from Oni, or at least "would rape you in the ass" vibesdoes that make sense?
>>543427526Probably because of the Japanese trope of muscular = gay, but Oni is straight as can be.
>>543427526Only if you're gay
>>543427526Favourite SMT?
>>543198556Because Japan has a culture of "Saving face"
>>543428285>Oni is straight as can beProof?
Giving Flynn an updated 3D model was a mistake.
>>543434072No one forced you to create that image, anon.
ima be real bros i was never on-board with flynn to begin withsmt stopped being gigachad heterosexual after demifiend
>>543435104>demifiend>gigachad heterosexual
>>543434220The demons made me.
>>543436459extremely cool swaggy dude who doesn't need a shirt that punches the living shit out of literal demons and casts magic (and does everything) with his bare handshe's literally the most chad protag
>>543386856Meguro makes better music but Kozuka is better at making music FOR video games. Meguro makes songs the devs have to fit in the game and Kozuka makes songs specifically to fit certain parts of the game.
>>543438935I bet you think Naruto characters are gigachad too
Is this a chad protag
Any other JRPG series where people obsess this hard over the silent protagonists of each game? Somehow I doubt Dragon Quest fans act like this.
>>543445248Define "obsession", pokemon fans sure obsess over the female MCs, but that's because they wanna fuck them.
>>543445447But they're underage...
>>543435104Bro don't you remember when he pulled off his pants and then did a dick helicopter in front of Isabonobo's face while snorting like a pig? I thought that was pretty gigachad of him.
>>543452780This isn't real.
>>543435104the only people who usually give a crap about things like that are the ones who are uncomfortable with their own sexuality.
>>543414932SMT isn't dead but I sincerely doubt SMT VI is currently being developed. At this point it's just a few employees just pitching ideas and concepts for the game, while other projects that are in development(P4R, EO, Raidou 2) are given more priority since they're already deep in development.
>>543445034yes and no
>>543435104Sorry to say but I don’t give a shit-too busy playing games or liking characters that are cool
>>543463997based
The gang's all here.
>>543471895
Finally found the time to poke my head into the VR haunted house to try to save Six. I've obtained two of the three melodies required to make it past the barrier preventing me from reaching his soul.Nemissa continues to be an unstoppable walking nuke and it's probably going to suck badly when the game does it's inevitable "Here, do a whole dungeon without your caster" gimmick that all of the games so far seem to do. Skogsra's starting to fall behind but I've yet to find an adequate replacement healer to upgrade to.
Good morning, sirs! Namaste!
>>543472401Bring him back.
>>543472518did you celebrate, what was it. Diwali ?
>>543472668I don't understand those words. Anyway, bring him back along with casinos.
Jack Frost has been found dead in Miami.
>>543481935cause of death? melting
>>543481935
How do I kill 4 Mitamas in V? Megidolaon + Pierce + Tarukaja + Crits didn't work
>>543490001Use a spyglass and hit their weakness, mitamas are the only random enemies in the game that resist almighty.Later, you can use elemental attacks that have a pierce effect.
>>543491052Yeah but a Spyglass takes a whole action. How do you kill a squad of 4?
>>543491213nvm I'm retarded. I just used the same setup but bufu instead
>>543452780This is real... right?
>>543490001Early game? Not happening. You don't have enough action economy. Late game you use AOE pierce options like Amon's Megido Flame with dual pleromas.
I don't like the current direction for SMT.
>>543493316does anyone
>>543493316I'm not sure how anyone who isn't a fujo/faggot and/or open world slop enjoyer does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkAjlsec90Orchestral glitch core SMT OST when?
>>543493316It's a mixed bag for meHate the art directionHate the storytellingMixed on the exploration, it's serviceable (we're never going back to grid based are we)Mixed on general combat (Magatsuhi on the enemy is just shit, otherwise it's fine)Love how good demon building has becomeLove MC power progression
>>543493316i don't think most oldfags like it either at this point.
>>543503008The Japanese are the only old fags. Most of them like V.
>>543504228SMT needs the west to survive. Stop bringing up the fucking japs on a western imageboard when it's obvious what oldfags he's talking about.
>>543493316>>543493431VV is my favorite SMT and I'm glad they're thinking of making a Raidou part 3. Now if they just make a SJ like sci-fi game it will be complete.
>>543504441The west is too busy dicksucking Persona and Metaphor
>>543505343Metaphor was actually good.
>>543505738metaphor was actually just okay...
Metabored
>>543505281>VV is my favorite SMTWhy do you love this game?For the lack of actual dungeons with puzzles?For the ugly P5 vanilla demon roster from PS3 era?For the boring Kozuka OST?For the lack of actual plot and characters?For the shitty "swirls everythere" Doi desings?There is not a single redeemable quality of V/VV I can think of.
I noticed that Twilight Wave isn't specified as lvl based like other Magatsuhi attacks. Can it crit or benefit from charge?
>>543515617you forgot about all of the gay porn!!!
GayVniggers from Outer Space
Aogami and Vkun have the greatest love story ever told in Megaten.
>>543516291A simple way to test would be to have Critical Aura on a Twilight Wave user since you can have charge effects influence the magatsuhi skills (meme example being Omnipotent Succession with another magatsuhi skill on Nahobino, 4 magatsuhi hits out of 2 turns).
>>543520205>What is Jimenez and Bugaboo
>>543520205I like Vkun and Yoko more as a couple. They have Bonnie and Clyde energy
>>543520769I mean no one said you can't like crack ships.
>>543520769Every time you post this image, a fujo/fudan kills their self. This picture is violence.
>>543521190Why do you think that? Unironically.
>>543521268>Vfag fails to understand humorMany such cases
I have played some of my favorite games of all time in the past 2 years. The good games just keep coming.
>>543521190>post the picture>IV's press turn sound goes off>anon started smirking
>>543523273Grim.
>>543521659>humor
I'm gonna snatch his wig.
>>543523532Ok, let me give you the detailed rundown on why it's humorous
>>543524019>forced joke I think is funny>please laugh>sarcastic replyTo be fair, most V humor is completely unfunny.
My life really consists of defending the games I love from people who hate everything new that comes out yet still remain in the community.
>>543525819Maybe you should reconsider your life choices or just go to R*ddit.
>>543526776Nay. I will continue to battle the endless horde of doomposters that decend upon my hobbies until I draw my last breath.
i think a nocturne vr mod would be really cool...
>>543525819Same but I genuinely did not like SH2 and I only though Metaphor was ok. I was expecting better for how long it took in dev time. Also the calendar system was completely unnecessary. I don't like that it feels like they put it in purely to pander to persona fags.
>>543528308Which was a pointless gesture given the lack of romance. Not sure what they were thinking, trying to court the persona audience without it.
>>543528308agree about the calendar system. i was able to complete every sidequest and every social link with like two weeks to spare.
>>543529325yeah it's really odd that they dropped the romance options... at least they chose the best girl to be the mc's canon love interest
>>543493316SMT has moved on without (You) either way
>>543528308On the contrary I think the way the calender system was used for a globe trotting adventure was interesting and unique. Some dungeons could take up to 3 in game days to travel to by Gauntlet Runner and you would have to plan around things like the weather. The deadlines also made more sense since the plot was driven by a competition.
>>543530609nta but i specifically feel this way about persona. persona is now catered to braindead retards that hate jrpgs. gone are the fun and interesting gameplay mechanics. instead of somewhat challenging combat, modern persona makes combat so easy that you can pretty much autobattle throughout the entire game, and even when things get tough you can now just use your supermove that will instantly kill everyone on screen.
>>543531054Sounds like most of the Final Fantasy games I have played.
>>543531054fuck you, p5 was fun once you got through the tutorial phase. p3r was half assed though.
>>543532404>p5 was fun once you got through the tutorial phaseit wasn't
>>543532404>p5 was fun once you got through the tutorial phaseLiterally the opposite. Went way downhill after the first palace. Gameplay was mind numbingly easy. Fusing auto-kajas as always let's you stomp random encounters, while having a persona you dedicated the jailing mechanisms to would obliterate any boss. Closest thing the game got to a challenge after the intro was the fight with Haru's dad and even that I brute forced first try.
>>543533610also the fight against haru's dad is super easy, but it's the only time that the game forces you to strategize during a fight. and then all of room temp iq morons threw a fit because it was "too hard" and "unfair" so they had to make it easier in royal.
>>543530723Everything you said has been done in other games without a calendar system. You can still do a globe trotting adventure without it.
>>543533610>Literally the opposite. Went way downhill after the first palace.we have vastly different tastes. the first palace wasn't very fun for me because you don't have many gameplay choices. the more open it is, the funner it is usually. and it takes too long to pick up pace at the beginning.>Gameplay was mind numbingly easy.did you play on hard then for a challenge? not merciless, hard.i don't really mind being able to break games either if it's a reward for engaging with its systems. figuring out the best abilities and best combinations can be fun. but royal just giving you op personas for free is dumb.
>>543531054It only really started with P5. P4 when it came out originally, lost a good chunk of the megaten feel but I liked the quirky rural backwoods Japan setting even though it was meme'd back and forth as the Japanese experience game with waifus. Then P4 was remade constantly with Golden and the spin offs and lost whatever soul it had. Then P5 went way too far pandering to normies with how much the dialog and setting became a Japanese school life sim first and foremost. Gameplay wise P5 has interesting dungeons but they are too easy, and filled with unnecessary padding and dialog.
>>543534316Mind naming a couple? Genuinely curious because I liked the mechanic.
>>543534527Yeah I chose Hard rather than Merciless because I heard the latter actually trivializes any enemies with weaknesses. Like I said, after the intro you have so many options for maintaining SP while trekking, can set up a triple auto-kaja persona you can then switch off of for a heavy hitter without burning a turn, and then just steamroll everything. If you keep your equipment up to date and use incenses with jailed personas you end up with a joker the game just can't deal with. It's clearly designed for people who don't take full advantage of what precise skill persona building has to offer.
Lilith pegging me.
>>543536732Samael....
>>543536732>t. Lucifer
>>543536732I didn't know I posted here
>>543520932kek
>>543535220Globe trotting, weather effects or both? And does it need dungeons or just that mechanic? Neither are exclusive to a calendar system. And many games have that from jrpgs to adventure games.
>>543539096this is what autism feels like
>>543539096what?
>>543539309nᶦᵍᵍᵉʳ
>>543538990Game where you go on an adventure but also have to manage your time. Doing optional stuff like side quests and and dungeons can take up to several in game days which restricts the amount of time you can spend doing other things before the plot has to continue. I beat FFtactics recently and despite that game having an in game calender it didn't actually mean anything and I could waste as many days as I wanted with no consequences.
>>543541054the fuck you say?
>>543541443ᴵ ᶜᵃn'ᵗ ᶻᵉᵉᵈ
>>543534316>>543541262So now that I clarified got any recommendations?
Some of the earliest screenshots of Metaphor show a calendar option, I don't know why retards committed seppuku when it was revealed to be a P5 clone.
>>543549276Atlus LIED and BETRAYED me.
>>543541262NTA but old Atelier, before Gust got bought by Koei Tecmo.The games might be too easy for you but they're exactly what you described.
>>543549840>t. Neo-kun
>>543549276Because people like to set up false expectations regardless of what they got shown so they can complain later (and consoom anyway).
>>543549840But enough about SMT x Fire Emblem
>>543551043what were they thinking
>>543549840They TRAPPED you inside the dbz time chamber for 100.000.000 years?
>>543551137*what was Ishida thinking
>>543551137Idk but it must have involved Satan.
Any artist anons want to give advice to a retard? I'm going through one of those art blocks I think, and can't even draw a fucking cube. If you help I'll draw your favorite megaten demon as thanks.
>>543552598Just use AI
>>543552901But I like drawing.
>>543554792Ask Grok for motivation
>>543552598Do you mean you can draw but are currently experiencing artist's block? Or are you learning (can't draw a cube) and need motivation to push through?
>>543552901honestly I wonder how many small time artists use AI for all their compositing and just tracelike, who's gonna know?
>>543549276I wanted medieval western fantasy kino and got anime artpop fantasy slop
>>543560956>anime artpop fantasyDo you even know what the words you are saying mean?
>>543549276Those early screenshots were shown after release that's why. When the game was first promoted they said, quote on quote, "not persona".
>>543558909The former. I'm not great at it, but I think I can draw to some extent, it's just lately I seem to have lost all the skill I've had.
Name this Jack.
>>543570263Jack Miof
>>543570263Sir Topham Jack
>>543527886
>>543150858Aradia jumpscared me good the first time I saw her. I had stayed up way too late trying to power through the obelisk, beat the sisters, and was like 'okay, watch the cutscene, save, then go to bed.' Then Aradia shows up like she's straight out of some goddamned creepypasta. Got a good jump outta me.
>>543549276>>543562286>"this is not persona! this is not megaten!">it's actually fantasy persona and you can summon jack frost and morebut it's fine because it's le omelette du homage as atlus's anniversary game
As far as Judeo-Christian stuff goes, I feel like the pre-flood world isn't used very much. I want an SMT game set in that period...
Can we just merge with /meta/ already? I'm tired of both of these generals going to page 9 inbetween every post.
>>543552598it's best to just take a break from drawing for a while.seth or samael could be cool. or maybe cerberus. or gagyson or nyarlathotep.
>>543573881>Chaos ending has you stop the flood, but Angels will continue to descend from heaven to rape human women, leading to an over population of Nephilims, and the slow and painful end of humanityHmmm... a watery grave or get eaten buy a giant rape baby, decisions, decisions.
>>543562436Sometimes you have to go back to grinding basic shapes. It's tedious but polishes your skills.
>>543577740no.
>>543573486nta. i get what you mean but that just meant it was a new ip. it feels different enough to classify as a new ip too. have you played it? the battle mechanics make it feel much different from smt and persona.
>>543577740yes
>>543577740maybe
>>543577740>>543584807>>543588657/sm(e)t(a)g/
>>543573486You wouldn't have survived when Maken X was new and used Megaten elements despite not being a Megaten game
>>543593000more like /smegma/ lol
>>543577740>MetaphaggotryNah, /smtg/ will be undergoing a homo/fujo purge soon. Can't have more.
>>543597729>Nah, /smtg/ will be undergoing a homo/fujo purge soon.What's going to purge it?
>>543598490Me (I will bring all of them into my harem)
>>543520205This is true and I guarantee either Doi, Kozuka, or Komori will even admit to that being the intention one day. Susano-o is the god of happy relationships and love on top of everything else he does. He's actually more popular for that than the weather or sea shit he's supposed to do. More people pray to him for good luck in their love life these days than most other gods. The point of VV was to fix the Susano-o myth use and the bench was one part of it also.I think SMTVV might cover everything Susano-o does or is revered for up until he actually becomes a king of Yomi.
>>543530723I wish there was MORE planning around the calendar. I originally thought you'd almost be free-form traveling the country. Instead there's only a couple times where your route matters.
>>543586132>have you played it? the battle mechanics make it feel much different from smt and persona.It's press turn with a skill tree. That's Digital Devil Saga. It's not bad but it's not new.
>>543593007It sucks because years ago Atlus actually did make brilliant new unique things like Trauma Center, Etrian Odyssey, or Catherine, and now they can only ape their previous successes awkwardly.
What if Cozy did a crowdfunding thing to make his own game
>>543604534He already is working on his own game.
>>543603734and a class system. and overworld combat affecting player/enemy advantage. it's not that all of these things are new or anything but everything coming together gives it its own identity.
>>543609661It really is ATLUS' magnum opus...
>>543609661After all these years of waiting I'd be worried if it didn't even have an identity, which they didn't obtain by innovating but rather mixing the usual stuff. You are praising what, the bare minimum?
>>543612643i'm saying it feels unique enough to be its own thing. and most "new" ideas are just made from mashing 2 or more pre-existing ideas together so i don't get what the problem is. that it didn't create a completely new never before seen gameplay system? all atlus rpgs are derivative of each other.
i never finished digital devil saga 2 despite really liking the first
>>543616573she wants to get vored
>>543616673It doesn't really matter if you finish DDS2 or not. The game isn't even canon to begin with.
Devil survivor 3 is next
Sexoma
>>543621478>if I don't like a game that means it isn't canon
>>543628586Yu Godai, the creator of the DDS stated that DDS2 isn't the actual canonical continuation to DDS1 events. The novels are.Deal with it.
>>543628586he's mad because nobody cares about the novels
>>543629426No one has read that shit
>>543629559Who cares? The novels are canon and DDS2 isn't according to the person who created DDS. You have no say in the matter.
>>543629895The game is property of Atlus therefore they decide what is canon. She was contracted to write the story but couldn't finish it so they got someone else. Her feelings are irrelevant. Cry about it little bitch.
>>543630165>The game is property of Atlus therefore they decide what is canonIf that was the case, they wouldn't have approved the novels nor let Yu Godai denounce DDS2 as being "canon".
I'm kinda regretting not picking hard mode for my playthrough of SMTVV.
>>543632259The game is easy as fuck anyways. Hard mode is normal mode and everything else is easy mode.
>>543632446Going in I planned to do both CoC and CoV, expecting that to be 100+ hrs of play time. I picked normal thinking it'll make the game more manageable. Now 30 hrs in im not as engaged.
>>543613401yeah except their best/most important ones like megami tensei 2, smt 3 and persona 3
>>543630824>>543630165>>543629895>>543629426This doesn't even make sense, what is your source? I don't need to tell you that games are not novels. Of course the novelist will say that 'Yes DDS2 is what I intended for my original plans' but that's not the same thing as 'Actually the game isn't canon'. What does canon even fucking mean here? That would be like saying the LOTR films aren't canon to the novels, its nonsensical.
>>543634760>Yes DDS2 is what I intended for my original plansI meant to say *Quantum Devil Saga. Point is, the games are canon to themselves and the novels are something else entirely, they are separate.
SMTIV isn't cannon because they didn't implement Kaneko's full vision
SMTV isn't canon because I don't like it
>>543635458thats true actually
>>543634021what's the MT2 reference?
>>543634021mt 2 still uses the basic demon fusion and recruitment system from mt1.i'll give you smt 3 because it did a lot of different things like press turn and reasons. but it still uses demon recruitment and fusion.persona 3 isn't even the best nusona game. and it took a lot of stuff from an evangelion ps2 game.
>>543635458VV Chaos isn't canon to V because it makes V-kun not gay
>>543635458Reason of Oldfag>>543637079Reason of Fujo
>>543637302This is the first time I see a fujo admit that VV isn't gay
>>543609661>overworld combat affecting player/enemy advantageIt's REALLY bad though. If they're gonna do that again have the Strikers people consult on the action combat.It's a good game, it's just not original. It innovates about as much as P5 did. Which isn't a hugely bad thing but they did kind of build it up to have a totally different feel. I definitely liked it and want them to make more. The dungeons put SMTV to shame.
>>543641512strikers had bad combat though
>>543637079Dialog in the game makes that ending explicitly gay. You should read it. You didn't think that ending exists in a vacuum did you? Nothing else matters but one scene? Sounds delusional.
Any mod recommendations for Vengeance? Been getting the itch to replay it, but I'm not sure which mods are generally considered good.
>>543646501titty mods
>>543646759All you need. There's a really good one with Cleopatra getting jiggle physics even
>>543646501The Demon expansion back is usually the recommended one. Could try the randomizer too if that's something you're into.
>>543644489Your a faggot
>>543644489>gay ass Vfag calling literally anyone else delusional makes me kek
Bully all Vfags.
>>543650692Obviously they like it, otherwise they wouldn't keep coming back.
>>543652598There's only one solution then...
>please have gay sex with meNo.
>>543654338No one brought up gay sex
>>543654764Where do you think you are?
>gay sex What about law sex
>>543648165>The Demon expansion backSpeaking of, is it possible to increase stock size without breaking something? I need more demons.
>>543658098YHVH's strongest slut
is there any hope for 2 or even 1 being remade? Or any hope at all for smt that is not persona?
>>543662934I dunno, how do the Japanese oldfags feel about potential remakes?
did the board game ever release?
How does Three Houses measure up against P5? Better? Worse?
>>543666459I don't play video games
>>543658098none of the sex Amane seems to have is consensual and for the sole purpose of procreation
>>543662934They actually released a double remake/reimagining on 3DS known in the West as SMT IV. You should look into it.
>>543648341>>543648904>They actually think V isn't gayLmao
>>543662934Remakes are a tricky business, of course reworking the gameplay is gonna be easy for atlus, just slap presses turn on it, but the real trouble comes in the creative story decisions, will atlus keep the story of the first two games the same or will they add elements to connect the stories with the current canon... oh and also thier not going make them traditional dungeon crawlers, because those don't sell.
>this is a gay game
>>543670546That's two girls.
>>543670546Yes.
>>543670546>kills her and her dog/boyfriend V-kun is literally a gay incel
>>543670546I want to get them both pregnant with my seed.
>>543670546>Namaah uses Capitulate to Pleasure>Bino unaffectedWhat did he mean by this?
>>543672980>Nahobino uses sexy dance on males>They get charmed
Demi X Bino is canon because ATLUS commissioned that one art work
>>543677215Don't post it
>>543677215Post it
>>543677215>Atlus West with zero say or control commissioned that one art workThat's actually the funniest part.
>>543677429Atlus themselves commissioned an explicitly sexual allegory with the Nahobino getting his virginity taken by Aogami because they saw what Atlus West did and wanted to correct the narrative. You can't make Demi gay.
I'm tired of twink protagonists SMT VI should feature someone that's demi fiend but half a foot taller and 30lbs of muscle heavier.
>>543678280>plays Japanese RPGs >hates twink protagonists
>>543678280VI will mog SJ so we're going back to built men again. Everyone likes Aogami, Yakumo, etc so that will be the excuse to finally play as someone like them as the MC.
>>543679350Yakumo had such a cool design
Do (you) make your endgame demons utility boxes with a bunch of elements or do you just give them 1 attacking move and a bunch of passives to boost damage output?
>>543683578Depend of the game and the role I want to give the demon.
The next SMT game will basically be Attack On Titan but with demons.
sauce??
>>543687889>sauce??Kazuma Kaneko
>>543688086oh wow!! thanks man!!
>>5436664593H is miles better
>>543689280No problem bro
>>543691667Damn. In that case which Persona do you recommend?
>>543692552I personally have grown to like 1+2 more over time.
>>543692504>>543691667>>543688086>>543687889who???
>>543694907https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazuma_Kaneko
>>543694907
>>543624051so, umm..... how big
Unused assets for a dungeon in VV were found.It's called "chaos dungeon".
>>543593007do you mean "megaten elements" like the broad concepts of order vs chaos, or "megaten elements" like "casting Recarm spells, summoning Jack Frost with the Devil Summoner class and applying temporary buffs and debuffs like every Atlus game released in the last decade"?
>>543663550no. their last update was september 18 and showing off revised packaging/physical gameplay stuff (rulebook cover, box design, cards, etc)
>>543644489Not OP but I friend-zoned Aogami and showed more empathy for Koshimizu because the construct's that bad on his Charisma rolls. Might've been rough against the autism modifiers but his rolls were still less than stellar.>>543672980How much luck were you rolling up in level 15? Think she casts it even if you don't buff the team (and iirc she has Tarunda).>>543701926Design with the petals makes me wonder if it was planned at one point for Shinjuku to have a dramatic change after Tiamat wrecks the area and that lead to the Shakan. Or maybe the Qadistu floor of the Diet Building was something you'd walk up towards (the Qadistu being in the top floor/roof in this case) rather than get to it via a highway road. Technically the possibility that the devs might've planned to give CoC some love and care and make it where Chiyoda/Shinjuku would act as both route's 4th region (Taito bumped to 5th, Shinjuku -> Chiyoda for CoV while its Chiyoda -> Shinjuku for CoC).
>>543703745>Not OP but I friend-zoned AogamiIn your head. The MC didn't care about Koshimizu at all or very little. The fact he barely reacts to Koshimizu's death wasn't just an accidental after thought. Because if you forget to pick up Koshimizu final essence and go to get it with Aogami, he'll beg the MC not to forget his brother basically for his sake. Aogami was hit hard by his death but the MC basically just used him.
>>543683578Generally speaking the latter, though you usually have enough room to fit a single target and an AOE skill. Generally I go dual pleromas, enduring soul, obligatory weakness patching skill, then two attacking moves. V makes you need Abyssal Mask for Demi Fiend (which is at least half the reason you have single element specialists) so at most you have maybe 1 or 2 slots of wiggle room which I fill with buffs/debuffs/heals depending on potentials.
>>543703745>How much luck were you rolling up in level 15I was just shit posting to pretend that Bino's hypothetical homosexuality renders him immune to female charm.
i'm playing smt 1... what should i name the heroine?? i named the law hero chomo and the chaos hero chud
>>543711376shitlib
>>543711376footsuko
am I retarded or is there no way to manually sort your demons in V?
>>543711376Toki
Explain why you like SMT games.
>>543719252Demon fusion, occult themes, and old school dungeon crawling
>>543719252I want to sex Alice cunny
>>543725968The better advanced wars (It's not).
Majin' my Megami til she Tenseis
>>543729195i was thinking the same thing earlier today
>>543719252Came for the first person dungeon crawling, stayed for the occult Y2K vibes, mythology nerd pandering, and good fanbase (former)
>>543729998>formerYou are weak. Only Persona fanbase as degraded due to P5's success.
>>543716914i went with this
>>543704293>in your headThe moment before the Qadistu in Shinjuku (CoV) that I think was intended to be his big confession moment, on my first/blind run I picked the option referring the group as a whole instead of him alone (don't ignore my demon stock you powerslave, get back into your cuck chair so you can get my neutral CoC route wrong again).>CoC neutral route wrong?CoC has the demon haunt in VV and the last one you get with him after choosing to go neutral has him assuming you're mantling the throne and not destroying it. The choice for that is actually later and thus you can prove he doesn't know you as well as he think he does. Funny that technically means it keeps up the tradition of the re-release worsening the base-story in some way, thankfully CoV exists but still, way to kick a route while its down.>>543709038Got that and I was just poking fun how in-game mechanics says otherwise. Fucker gets charmed by Namaah, Lucifer, and Mara, might be that panfucker thing I hear about.
>>543736332>that I think was intended to be his big confession momentThat's actually in CoC in Taito where he says he has big feelings for the MC that go beyond anything he was ever programed with. He calls it a "higher power" because he doesn't know what it is. It's obvious what he's referring to though. He admits this and then stutters and changes the subject. The point you're talking about is more like the MC admitting his own feelings before the big confrontation or chickening out. Almost all his choices are phrased like choosing between saying what he really feels or masking it. Aogami even has a little commentary about how he's like this in CoC when you have to explain why you are serving Bethel when you don't really want to right before the submit fight.
>>543738069>submitsummit, don't feel like deleting the post for a typo though
the remakes of mt on the snes seem better to playbut the music is just better on the nes
>>543701926Couldn't this be an earlier draft of the area that you fight the Qaditsu in before they summon Tiamat? It doesn't actually look like a navigable area. File names also point to "chaos boss"? So maybe it was a backdrop for Tiamat's boss fight?
>>543739005There needs to be more info. All I have right now from the post I saw about it is:>these assets aren't used in the game I think>they are in a file called "chaos dungeon">the assets are called "chaos boss" and "chaos boss wall">I'm going to see if there is a way to render these tree like objects better so I can see what they areI'll let you know if I see an update but just from the look of it as is it looks like something they planned and scrapped for VV.
>>543719252Cool monster designs, mythology theme and occultism. I'm not really into JRPGs but I like SMT's gameplay.
>>543741537cock mommy
All the protagonist should be alpha hunks like the strange journey protagonist.
>>543747183how much doomguy porn do you have
>>543747183The alpha hunk is the worst mainline seller
>>543747183But you play as a vending machine in SJ...
Narumi should be the protagonist of all SMT games going forward.
>>543750665>Element schizo on his way to call you gay while conveniently ignoring every Vfag post
>>543757557Forgot my pic
>>543747541Not really? Early on maybe but there's two points at which MC can really contribute. First is when you get the Frost Cannon, that thing is busted for a while after you get it, and lastly is when you get the end game guns that can do a lot of damage. Moan Bullet is pretty solid from what I recall.
New Vegas is spiritually SMT
>>543757557He's secretly one of the delusional autists that unironically think V isn't gay.
>>543761098V isn't gay.
>>543761272Yes it is.
>>543761536No it's not.
I'm not a fan of how far V and VV went with weakening the player MP economy. IV was too lenient, but IVA got it perfect in terms of cost/item strength/item availability. V having high costs and not giving you any great chakra/bead of life, on top of chakra pots already being a fixed 200, really makes managing MP an absolute headache for superbosses.
>>543701926Isn't the room with the Tree of Life used only in cutscenes also referred to as "dungeon" in the files? I think this is probably just the first draft of the primordial world, since it just looks like a background not actually a place you explore.
>>543761576I personally really liked how important MP management is, and how important it is to have reserve members with good affinity you can swap in.
>>543761743It could be the sky box for a dungeon. Also that area with the tree of life can be traversed if you load it in a test room. Meaning it has collision for a player character to walk around in. They planned to let you in there and walk around at some point.
>>543761557Yes it is.
>>543762027Maybe at one point Temple of Eternity was also a different dungeon on CoV. That way you have a law and chaos dungeon on each route.
>>543762156No it's not.
>>543750665>>543757557>>543757727>>543761098This board is an extended gutter, full of blood, and when the drain finally scabs over, all the fags will drown. The accumulated filth of all your lust and homoposts will foam up about your waist and all the Hazamafags and Raidouhomos will look up and shout 'SAVE US!'...and I'll look down and whisper "gay."
Enigma Rorschach
Meta Dr. Manhattan
>>543763404>all the Hazamafags and Raidouhomosthey don't even post much nowadays. the raidou remaster came out months ago and it seems most discussion has dried up about it. i haven't seen a hazama post in months.
>>543762007I like it to but at the level of apocalypse, not V. The major MP drains in the former were luster/debilitate/Mediarahan/almighty spells due to how strong they've historically been. In V that philosophy was moved over to pretty much everything, especially unique skills. I don't mind it for most of the game, and like you said making you have backup demons is a neat philosophy that they made more palatable because summoning only uses half a press turn. However late game and especially on Satan and Demifiend I'm really feeling the strain on my turn economy with how often I have to swap just for mp. All I really want is to have great chakras and beads of life for these exact post game tier bosses. IVA was just fine for having them, and I sorely miss them in VV.
>>543763404I watch Japanese porn videos and I like to imagine them as Narumi and Tae and it makes everything 10x better
>>543763332Yes it is.
SMT1 remake leak with Unreal 5 engine. Looking better than SMTV already.
>>543772747now I'm picturing SMT1 as an old school Resident Evil game
I'd play the fuck out of fixed camera turn based RPG SMT NINE is as close as we'll get ;_;
>>543761082I don't see it.
If SMT 1 unironically gets a remake then the mid 2010s to now is officially the dark age of SMT. Literally nothing but shit game after shit game with atrocious writing and questionable gameplay mechanics in order to attract literal children and persona fans to the series
>>543761082New Vegas is trans-core.
>>543770184No it's not.
>>543772645is this Giten?
>>543777907Yes it is.
>>543777613It's already been officially the dark age ever since SMTIV was revealed with Doi artwork. Since then things just keep getting worse. #FE and SH2. Censoring Raidou. Kaneko officially GONE and working on AIslop gacha shit. The only thing keeping us going is Ryota Kozuka.Really the first sign of the end (other than Persona 4) was how desperately bad DeSu2 and its anime were.
I'm still so glad SMTV ended up being so good.
>>543782685>Ryota KozukaI don't see why people even like him. All of his work sounds the same with no real variety or difference.
>>543785021Classic Warren take
>>543785021Counter point: https://youtu.be/Vrx1sZYgp7E?si=f4yjmefhA6n0Zy-b
Kozuka ships Aogami and Vkun even harder than Doi does and yet you support his music anyway???
>>543785961I don't care as long as he delivers good music (he does)
>>543786359Based.
listening to kozuka while i blaze it up rn
>>543785961>you
>>543788764If you don't like Kozuka then the post doesn't apply to you, retard.
>>543788891Why would any random anon be particularly mad about Aogami and V-kun?
>>543789558Because homosexuality is a mental disorder
>>543789558The fact that some insist V isn't gay is admitting they're mad about them.
>>543790623>>543789738This is schizo behavior. Do better.
>>543783730The dungeons and story were real bad though. Is VV any better?
>>543792095We must be better schizos.
>>543792275VV has one new dungeon and no it's not an improvement from the demon castle, and as for the story, it depends how much you care about the relationship the MC has with Aogami.
>>543796239>it depends how much you care about the relationship the MC has with Aogami.Ah, I would say "not at all", in fact usually the best parts of the game were when I forgot Aogami even existed
>>543797112UHHHHH are you saying the major artistic intent behind the game was boring????
>>543797343Shin V is my favorite
>>543797343Authorial intent is rarely the most compelling part of fiction.
>>543799715>the fanfiction in my head is betterUsually the people that say this are laughed at, not the other way around.
>>543799715Well, that's true for V at least because the game is so boring that you have to invent head canon to make it somewhat interesting.
>>543792275The story in VV is much better. A lot of the stuff that was only hinted about the supporting cast gets a lot more attention, particularly Tsukuyomi and Tao. Qadistu and Mastema are great villains and Yoko is best chaos girl ever
>>543800295>much better>much
>>543797112Then you'll love Vengeance since Aogami is gone for half of the game, replaced by his much cooler brother
>>543800190What invented headcanon has made the game better? Do you have an example?
>>543800594>there are 4 maps>he only replaces Aogami for one map>half the game
>>543800629I head canon'd away all of the plot elements that attached it to Nocturne so I can pretend the games aren't connected. It made the game better by not dragging down Nocturne's legacy.
>>543800002No one said anything about fanfiction. Fanfiction would be adding information that isn't there. You're allowed to make assumptions or take alternative interpretations about implications in a story so long as they're supported in some way by the narrative or imagery.Sometimes an author fails to support a supposed theme within the work itself or intended to espouse an idea that runs counter to a more thoroughly supported one.Post facto statements about a story matter little and do nothing to truly address a clumsily executed idea. Who gives a shit what a writer or director thinks a work is about if they weren't competent enough to pull it off?
>>543801079>ass hurt Nocturne faglmao
>>543801302>shit eating Vfaglol
>>543801294>Who gives a shit what a writer or director thinks a work is about if they weren't competent enough to pull it off?This is completely subjective player opinion though. They clearly thought the relationship between Aogami and the protagonist was compelling enough. And clearly other people agree because the merch of them sells. Some people will refuse to see that though because they think fujos will buy anything with same sex males in it regardless of quality. That's not really true.
>>543792275Gameplay is the only thing that improved. The new dungeon is actually worse than Ishtar's brap palace, completely mindless to navigate. Story has some interesting themes but they're barebones and the characters are bad. Dazai is slightly more obnoxious but the entrance of Yoko, peak retard, takes away some of the spotlight.
>>543802423I'm speaking in the abstract, not necessarily about V. It was just a larger statement about not taking authorial intent as gospel.>completely subjective player opinion Sometimes, but some works only have threadbare justifications for their supposed themes as intended by the author, so deriding them as clumsily executed is objectively fair in those circumstances. Meanwhile, an author may sometimes lend credence to another idea by accident due to overlap in certain themes.I think V/VV have other problems in the writing department beyond the pairing of MC and Aogami though. They have enough between them for that part to work though.>clearly other people agree because the merch of them sellsThis isn't really indicative of anything pertaining to the game's writing itself. People can like the pairing for all sorts of reasons. Few people engage with media beyond a superficial level to begin with, so I wouldn't take merchandise sales as anything in support of the game's writing.While it isn't as simple as>fujos will buy anything with same sex males in it regardless of qualitythere is till more to it than the merits of the writing at play there.
>>543803432>They have enough between them for that part to work though.Honestly I agree despite people bitching that Aogami is a nothing character and the MC's characterization doesn't matter. Actually, the bigger problem is that it gets too much focus compared to the other characters. Aogami got a bench and multiple scenes on top of that. Even in the original, Aogami has more lines than all the other major characters.
>>543800829It's a quarter of the game but it's the endgame where you also have way more quests so it evens out to more like a third of the game.
>>543804018Most of Aogami's lines are Navigator shit though.
>>543747541If you go magic you do a shit ton of damage with stones. I dont think they actually playtested a magic Mc because you just nuke bosses.
>>543804248Only in the beginning, even then it's still peppered with info about himself and his memory loss which is why they don't let you skip the tutorial I assume. I honestly think people forget how much he talks.
>>543804626I think a lot of people probably checked out of his dialogue because he had multiple lines that amounted to>we don't know what's ahead, so we should be carefuland >don't forget to rest when you can and don't overdo it
drew Narumi in a maid dress so I can get called a fag again :)
>>543812559Fag.
>>543812559Heterosexual.
>>543812559I like it :)
>>543818137Not MegaTen :)
>>543812396But I only really see western players do this. Unironically more Japanese players really like Aogami a lot. I kind of wish Atlus would do a character poll for SMTV instead of demon popularity polls because I think the difference in which characters the west and the east prefer would say a lot about who the writing of SMTV is targeting.
>>543822647>More fujoshi like Aogami a lot*Cmon anon, I know nobody in these threads is that dumb. Aogami could be totally mute and he'd still be the most popular character for fujoshi.
>>543826821>the "Aogami is only liked by fujos" copeI've seen enough Japanese players posting about their thoughts on the game and many non-fujos really like him. It's not just a fujo thing, Japanese player just generally like Aogami and talk about him more than the west does.
>>543822647That's not necessary, obviously SMT V is written for a Japanese audience, that's literally every mainline game, and as for the people that like him yeah he's susano-o thier most important god, the west ignores Aogami because he's just bland as a character, we see the susano-o stuff but that's not enough to impress us.
>>543828482I've seen people say they like how supportive he is of the protagonist and it's nice compared to the current norm of smt where everyone is against you by the end. They also really like his bench dialog and the cutscene when he comes back from Tiamat. All I have is my word but I think Aogami would rank exceptionally high in a character poll if they ever ran one. And likely very low on the english speaking side. I also think Atlus West did him dirty because Morikawa makes Aogami very gruff and powerful sounding while in english he sounds like a soft spoken AI chat bot.
>>543783730God no. V(and it's rerelease) were written so poorly that it makes the story of your average Kirby game look amazing in comparison.
>>543820218Maken is honorary megaten
>>543834305Based>>543820218Cringe
>>543804515RETVRN to tradition...
>>543812559pretty good, narumifag. i'm a little confused by his right hand but nice overall. keep it up!
>>543835908if all that mattered to the animal kingdom's balance was throwing rocks we wouldn't be better than monkeys
>>543835908He needs a better throwing motion
>>543804626>only in the beginningNot entirely. A good chunk of his mid/late demon haunt dialogue is either gameplay tips (that never leave the rotation) or synopsis (repeating what happened earlier without giving any greater insight/judgement to it). Also while there is a good chunk of things about him that exists, they amount to nothing (his past with Abdiel/Armageddon mean nothing, his husks mean nothing, and he doesn't care about the path you take/have taken).>Disconnect on Japanese/EnglishMy opinion on this is more the bungled nature of the localization (innate skills and Yoko's line siding with Leahan Sidhe being the easiest examples imo), that could've resulted a good/great Japanese script being a mixed-bag English script.
I'm going to play Soul Hackers for the first time. Any tips?
lower your expectations it isn't as good as everyone says it is.
>>543842795That can be said for most Megaten games, really. Especially with the PS2 & 3DS era of Megaten.
>>543841501Ignore INT and magic on the MC. Only focus on INT and magic for the heroine.
>>543845992>>543842795How tough is MAG to come by? Is the game like SMT 1 where you're showered with it?
>>543812559Looking back at this again, it looks like dogshit. I suck at this "painterly anime" style. I'm not going to use AI though. I'm better at more simple, or western styles but anime looks better and is more popular. Whatever. Thanks for reading my blog>>543841501I've been playing Soul Hackers recently too. I like the vibe it has. 90s sci-fi and teenagers getting up to mischief at night. It's nostalgic. Haven't gotten very far yet though
>>543740670>I'm not really into JRPGs but I like SMT's gameplay.desu I'm the same but I wonder if there are other JRPGs I would like and just haven't found them. I should probably at least try EO.
>>543847493there is that touhou game that plays like classic smt
>>543846774i remember it being pretty scarce but it was the first game i played that had mag in it so i probably had all of my demons summoned all the time.
>>543847294quick phone doodle to prove my point i guess also because I can't sleep
>>543848748I remember when it was placed into the OP description for a few days since it was cool little SMT-inspired indie game. But then the Vfags started complaining how about it took space for "more important information" and eventually removed it.
>>543847493I love Etrian Odyssey. Certainly would appeal to people who like Strange Journey or Classic SMT. Phantasy Star 1, The Dark Spire, Undernauts, and Kowloon High School Chronicle are some other Japanese first person dungeon crawlers I liked. So far as other JRPGs go...Resonance of Fate is very cool and kind of in line with what you'd expect from PS2 era MegaTen. Earthbound of course is a foundational classic in the "modern setting RPG" genre. They're very different but I also love TWEWY and NEO TWEWY. Digimon Cyber Sleuth feels like a weird SMT spinoff (same artist as Devil Survivor, with a mood kind of like Raidou but modern) and it's pretty fun. Oh, and I should give an honorary mention to my favorite childhood RPG, Shining Force.The Shadow Hearts games are on my backlog but they seem like they're in the same wheelhouse as MegaTen as well.>>543848748>>543851491Artificial Dream in Arcadia is great, I need to go back to it.
>>543777830You're agreeing with him right?
every single day i wake up remembering this utter kino. there will never be another video game moment like this.
>>543855247The best thing about this cutscene is that it's no longer considered to be a hot take to say that Mario games are written much better than recent SMT entries
>>543855247I thank God everything day for blessing the world with Dazai.
Gayzai
Bullzai
>>543855247a sucker no more
>>543863030From 'sucker' to 'suck her', know what I mean?
>>543863452could you elaborate?
>>543863940I've already said too much
>>543863452he needs a new hat that says Fucker instead
>>543864332then it would go from "fucker" to "fuck her"
>>543840461>good/great Japanese script being a mixed-bag English script.Even this applies to your complaint about the bench dialog. Atlus West really fucked up in a lot of places.
>>543855247It reminds me of that My Immortal fanfic when the fat wizard reveals he's a satanist.
>>543863940>>543864063>>543864562Abdiel...
>>543856326>bing bing wahoo out of nowhereyou already know whose behind this post
>>543868409He mentioned Kirby randomly too.
>>543869492you're right >>543834015I like nintendo slop too desu but he forces it into so many discussions in such an unnatural way
Which do you think will be released next?>A remake/remaster of a non-mainline SMT title>Persona 6>Shin Megami Tensei VI
>>543872452A rerelease.
>>543872691MT2 >>>>>> KMT2
>SMTV CoC>MasakadoJesus fucking christ, he's oneshot-ing my Bino through overheals, buffs, and debuffs. He's a cool unique gimmick boss but wtf do I even do about this nigga's moveset?Is this where I need to farm Balms and Incenses
>>543868409>>543869492I don't think there's nothing wrong discussing Nintendo for a series that's essentially a honorary Nintendo IP. Also we just got a Kirby direct yesterday, hence why they likely mentioned that series.
>>543873469>Try Shiva>15 minute battle>Mediarama 25k hp>Literally resets the entire fightdang ok
>>543876512V or VV?Shiva is a joke in VV.
>>543877464I'm on VVI know I just have to make sure the healer minions are dead asap but I thought my team was solid wtf man. I didn't sign up for a 30 minute fight
>>543876512that's one fucked up Jack
>>543876487where is this mirai from?
>>543876487>>543878113I want to fuck mirai
>>543877464I found Shiva to be about as hard as he was in the base game, but I fought him immediately at level 80 when he became available instead of at level 90 like in the base game. >>543877703His healing demons will usually heal after 1-2 turns so you have at least one turn to rush them down. Also don't forget to have a reflect/drain phys demon in your party to abuse Ganesha's dumb ass wasting his dad's turns.
>>543880839which way do you spin, anons?
>>543873469Oh and for Masakados, how I beat him is respecing so Beano had a shit ton of vit and giving him all resistances. Fairy Game and Harvest Festival are good because they have higher overheal levels, also obviously Luminescent Mirage was made for this fight, missing attacks won't cause Masakados to cycle his AI script and head to Freikugel.
>>543876487>>I don't think there's nothing wrong>retarded post with sentence structure that says the exact opposite of what they mean>lust provoking image
Haven't been in here over a year. What's the verdict about Yoko and Vengenance Tao? What is the better ending between the twoß
>>543876487>pretending to be miraifag after being called outKWAB of all time
>>543886202Vengeance gave Tao the biggest glow-up ever. Like shit I can't believe she became my favorite.
>>543886340nta but there are 1 or 2 other miraifags that occasionally post mirai besides THE miraifag.
>>543886923how many are ESLs?
>>543887079idk but not all grammar mistakes are even due to being esl. it's easy to make mistakes when you edit part of a sentence but then the rest is mismatched and sounds weird.that being said if the one who posted the naked mirai really is the resident shitposter, i apologize for interrupting.
>>543887602Once you've browsed here long enough, you simply *know* it's him.
>>543886202i don't like yoko that much, tao is better, neither of them beat the alignment reps in the other games as I feel something is missing from them
>>543886202Yoko's ending is high kino. The Eden imagery is so cool and fits with the main narrative beautifully. It might be my favorite Megaten ending in general. Tao ending is too happy, it throws in some lines about "uhhh yeah still have some hard times ahead to make it work" but it's clearly meant to be the Golden ending for SMT V, which is rather boring. The idea behind SMT V was forging your own mythology as a Deity. There is some fitting Susano'O tie ins for both (ruling in Heaven, or being the wandering God on Earth), but ultimately I take Yoko every time. As characters I like both, they're some of the better characters in the game.
Yoma Dak'kon
Yoko's ending isn't gay.
Fury Vhailor
i wanna be trapped inside an eternal tartarus with fooka we can cook shadows>>543841501its not a very tough game so youll be fine figuring out how many demons you need, if any. the 3ds postgame is alright but requires some grinding. this jap chap has all the detailed game information you could need for then https://ore-game.com/smn2/en/ fire nemissa is best but theyre all good
>>543868409>>543869492>>543869846>>543889685Can you guys please stop acting like I'm Voldermort
>>543892763Hence why it's labeled as heretical and controversial
>>543894342You must be a better poster. Only then will you find salvation in /smtg/.
hello /smtg/i take a frost i leave a frostbye /smtg/
Guess what demon I'm sketching today
>>543896228Hoy, what's with the jar?
>>543897046black frost
Is metaphaor any good? At least better than v?
>>543898213No.
>>5438962281 jack 1 jar (ft. pixie)
>>543898213It's good but not as good as VV>Metaphor>P5 it's the middle of the road game.
>>543898479grim.
>>543894310I thought lightning nemissa was best because of almighty
>>543892763>>543894512Nah it's gay.
>>543901370theres only one almighty skill lightning nemissa gets the others dontthey all get the super powerful one but fire nemissa gets an even more powerful fire attack as well which things can be weak tothe jap chap reckons electric is the best nemissa because she can stun enemies
>>543901860No, it's not.
>>543906074Yes it is.
>>543850127>>543847294> I'm better at more simple, or western styles but anime looks better and is more popular. Whatever. Thanks for reading my blogI'd say this is what is holding you back. Rather than thinking in terms like "anime style" or "western style" you should be thinking of studying from and emulating specific artists. Think of it as training wheels. If say you like Kaneko's style, trace and copy his art over and over to serve as a foundation. Mix it with studying from real life and you'll make good progress.
Brute N*gger
>>543898213Metaphor actually has a competent story that doesn't feel like it's written for literal children(*cough* BULLYING SUBPLOT *cough*), so yes.
>>543898213Gameplay or story wise? If we're talking about story almost any game blows CoC out of the water.
>>543910759I love blowing CoC
AI demons are the future...
>>543898213it's nothing amazing but it feels competently made. it has a pretty good story and fun combat.
>>543911412Tech bros making ai models except they just shove a demon into the hardware to power it. All the energy needed to use those models? Wind farms in makai
>>543912081oh and it has a cute fairy wife too!!
>>543912564Nocturne has a better fairy wife.
>>543913545Not really.
>>543914151Yes really.
>>543914151Fuck you.
>>543914757>>543914704Seethe harder, Noctroons
>>543924963>everyone i disagree with is trans>if they're not trans they are brown>if they're not brown they're esl
>>543925496Or they're like you, all three!
We need more MCs going full homicidal schizo when someone they're in love with dies. Nanashi was such a wasted opportunity. The massacre end could have been inspired by Asashi's death and it would have been kino.
>>543928451true
Why are all drawfags attention whores?
>>543929650That happens when they live in your head rent free.
>>543929801>live in your head rent freeYet there's a drawfag above literally asking to be called a slur then replying to himself, bringing up AI art out of nowhere. It's not even just contained to this general.
what is the most fuckable non-humanoid demon??
>>543932309Nahobino Abdiel.
>>543929089Did the smt1 hero go a bit schizo over his mom's death? She shows up in the diamond realm.
>>543932309I thought about it but realized there are none that I want to fuck
>>543932309Amabie
>>543932309My penis
>>543934641>She shows up in the diamond realm.Why don't I remember that?
>>543936263Alignment?
>>543939567Thin-Short
>>543940684Post it
>>543940915pascal pussy
So what are our hopes for SMTVVV?
>>543941035hopefully yuzuru gets any sort of character development this time.
>>543941035hopes?
what will come out first smt vi or persona 6???
>>543941651Persoyna
>>543941463He got tons of development in VV though?
>>543941924Persoyna?
>>543943347Persoyna Sex, exclusively for the Snoystation Sex
>>543937732She's in one of the rooms where you collect your demons. The heroine sacrificing herself is also in one of the rooms you can go into. His mom just repeats the last thing she said to him before he left.
>>543943036bro in vv all he does is repeat r/atheism talking points (shit like "if god is good why does he let bad things happen") and then he fucking dies and never gets brought up again and yoko gets replaced as the main chaos hero...
>>543947048Maybe that's just his personality? He was a piece of plywood in the original V
[IMPORTANT SMTV NEWS]Upon closer inspection of Aogami's model in the UE4 character viewer, someone cheeky at Atlus added screw holes and what looks like to be a slight indentation for a crotch plate on Aogami's model. This is not an edit, it is really there.
>>543950329This is an edit.
>>543950460Feel free to check yourself.
Most of Yuzuru's screentime in Vengeance was used to empathize his friendship with Dazai, so the betrayal at the end of the sacrifice would feel more tragic, that's basically Yuzuru's role, a victim of the system... and Dazai.
>>543950329[SAD NEWS] SMTV gayer than previously thought possible
I want PM Koshimizu to fill my holes
>>543883307>Luminescent MirageIs that Vengeance route only? Am I fucked without that
>>543951778I want you to eat shit and die.
>>543943642>exclusivelyHeh no one tell him
What's the agreed-upon name for the SMTV MC? Can we call him Femi-fiend
>>543953009Yung Mann
>>543953009His datamined name that Atlus West stupidly left in is Kei Amemura, but Atlus scrubbed that from the Japanese script so we don't know what characters his name uses.
>>543886202>TaoIn terms of a character, Vengeance gave a glow-up and a half, mad props to Atlus for sticking the landing, her scene with Lahmu and Sayori is my favorite scene in the game, chef's kiss. In terms of her ending, not only a bit too squeaky cleen but also have a weird hangup. "All dreams will be real" (or something very similar), how? Lets be basic, how the fuck do you make two people who dream of being the #1 best devil summoner in an mmo work out? Only one can have the gold Tao. I can't admonish players picking it though, it is a damn fine future she helps make true. Satan makes it sound like you only controlled one universe but the ending's phrasing makes it sound like you control a whole multiverse with mentioning other worlds (which could answer my previous question by being interpreted as Musubi 2.0, mantling the Mandala Network itself).>YokoAs a character there were some sloppy moments (blame it on localizers fudging details about her past and the Leahan Sidhe quest) but I definitely enjoyed her company and what was attempted with a more skeptical rep. The ending? Rough. I'm erring on the side that you're supposed to head-canon what it is a bit as Yoko mentions a new world/future being born via the void but not what that actually entails. Goko tries to pin it as some death of existence/perpetual conflict ending but isn't a reliable source to believe considering Yoko/Lucifer contradict him (and the perpetual conflict comment was post-launch). But then there's also the menu prompt saying its a uncreation ending too because lmao.>>543952534Vengeance route insofar you need Tsukuyomi's essence. If you went CoV and remembered to pick them up before going to a CoC route, you can use them for the skill, otherwise weep as you have to play a CoV route to get them back (even if on Godborn/Reborn because Atlus didn't think through their NG+ feature).
>>543891635>original sin matches with the narrativeCoC uses original sin and Eden imagery too. I'm not saying you can't like Yoko's ending for it but it's also good to remember that imagery was everywhere in the game. Hell, even the fact that Lucifer is the final boss is a big part of it.
>>543954347>Godborn/RebornI'm on CoC NG. I didn't know about Godborn/Reborn until looking it up. Good to know NG+ increases the level cap. I might just leave Masakado and Demi-Fiend for NG+ then
>>543955068Only God born specifically does that, and it boosts all the enemies to match.
>>543929089VV has a lot of issues, but this one is honestly the worst.>A few NPC mentions how the protagonist is ANGRY and EDGY due to the loss of Aogami>This is never actually shown in-game since the protagonist is a blank piece of wood and can't say shit
>>543964138>Dons tinfoil hatConsidering Atlus in Japan removed even the debug easter egg name, I think there was a bit of internal conflict between the team (either internally between any writers or externally like dev team to upper management) about the ambiguity of the MC being a character in of themselves (does Vkun have a quote you don't press via menu UI?). Perhaps Japan wanted to go all in on the self-insert angle while the West wanted a more defined protag even if malleable to a degree (multiple endings after all). We already had it where fem-VKun was denied by upper management practically.
>Soejima: "I don't work on Persona anymore, but here's celebratory artwork drawn by me." >Fans: "Thank you Soejima!"Meanwhile >Fans: "We're begging you Doi, draw SOMETHING for Vengeance sale milestones!">Doi: "Shut the fuck up, I'll do it when I feel like it."
>>543963846Including the superbosses? well shit i don't know what to do anymore
>>543972046so what are you gonna draw for ronde's anniversary? i assume you're rondebro
>>543973332Not sure yet. Probably just Asuka and Satoshi since I'm not good at drawing the entire cast yet. If I don't like how it turns out I won't bother posting it kek
>>543930207At least they provided some kind of content instead of just whining.
>>543965319i think a lot of megaten protags fall into an inbetween state of being a self insert and being their own character. there's not necessarily anything wrong with it. the devs don't want to interfere with the player having their own thoughts on something and self inserting but the chatacters do also have a few set characteristics. some of these set characteristics are even debatable.>>543969282do fans ask doi to draw sales milestone pictures?>>543930207i mean, the schizo who calls them gay all the time for no reason is also an attention whore. the drawfag was telling them they don't care. "call me a faggot again. i don't care." basically.
never played a game in this series but am currently playing strange journey redux and it's awesomeshould i play soul hackers or iv next? or is there a different game that is a must
>>543980116You should feel bad for thinking Redux is awesome.
>>543976962i see. hope it turns out well! but if it doesn't and you don't post it that's fine too.>>543980116most of the games are a must if you enjoy any of them. most play similarly. the only ones you shouldn't play are the bad ones like last bible special.
>>543892763Pegging IS gay
>>543980116Just play IV and then stop. Retards here will say stupid shit like tell you to go play a 30 year old game that's literally just inferior to what you're playing in every single way. The franchise peaked in the 3DS era and you're not going to get anything of the same quality in any other titles.
>>543980450>The franchise peaked in the 3DSLolLmao
>>543980271I'm having a blast>>543980307>>543980450thanksI tried smt1 for snes with the map bound to L or something but despite the intro being great i found it difficult to keep playing
>>543964138He doubles over on the bench moments after he dies. You can also see how fucking angry he is in the new skills he gets right after the new form.Also just listen to the new battle theme. It's suppose to reflect how angry he is too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OchJTFsVyHQ
>>543980642I wish misfortune upon you.
>>543980808*relax spray*I want you to be my demon.
>>543980930No, fuck you, I don't like you.
>>543981153then both barrels for you ya bastard!
Redux is better for the sole addition of omen bug. I do not care what any mentally ill person believes, playing 500 games of "guess the correct tile" is not fun dungeon exploration.
>>543980450don't even play 3ds soul hackers? it plays similarly to iv with slight differences... it just doesn't have overworld attacking for player advantage and you get a customizable (to an extent) heroine.the settings are different too but i just don't get you someone could love one megaten game and hate most the others when they all play fairly similarly.>>543980642the snes era was rough mechanically and the ps1 versions do add qol if you ever want to try those instead to get into older megaten titles like smt 1 (or smt 2 and if... but the ps1 versions don't have eng translations yet). but the ps2 era of games might still be up your alley too. see nocturne (smt 3) and digital devil saga (avatar tuner) maybe raidou/raidou 2 as well but the raidou remaster might be easier to get into for playing raidou. i haven't played much raidou so i'm not sure how big of a deal it is.either way, hope you have fun! just check out the ones you think look interesting i guess.i think smt 4 apocalypse is worth checking out too after smt 4. the story is cheesier but the gameplay is more refined. be sure to post about your experiences here too!
>>543981340I genuinely wonder what people like you think is fun.>yeah man, I want to play this dungeon crawler, but dungeons are so annoying, I don't want to bother with them, I want the game to play itself
>>543981756Exploring dungeons IS fun, trap floors/teleporter mazes aren't because they don't add anything of value to the experience. If you fall down a trap floor it's literally just retrace your steps back to where you were and this time...DON'T step on that tile. Wow, thrilling. Same thing with teleporter mazes.It's fine when they're used in interesting ways like taking you to a location you didn't have access to yet but most of the time it's just making you go back through areas you've already been. And I understand that backtracking is a core element of dungeon exploration but there's a difference between exploring a section fully then having to go backwards to explore another area vs trying to explore and being forcibly turned around.
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>>543982715omg this is exactly what i needed. thank you for making this thread.
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