fatfuck gabencunt edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to Screen Recordhttps://getsharex.com/https://obsproject.com>How to Webmhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>543102841
First for Alice
Merit = whatever makes Gabe more moneyGood game = a game that can buy Gabe another yacht
What's the point of making games when it would take years upon years of hard work to reach the top 1% and even then, is a gamble that is not guaranteed to work.
The amount of FUD being posted in this thread about how hard it is to make even a little money, is astounding. It quickly makes me come to the conclusion that there is a coordinated, perhaps algorithmic component to the posts to greatly dissuade people from realizing the monopoly on mass media has ended.
Hi, I have an idea for a game and want to make all the assets from graphics to music but I need someone that could program it. If anyone wants to hear me out I can give a detailed description of the game.I have an idea for the visual style that I'm pretty sure has never been done before so I'm looking for people who are curious and intetested in doing something new.The game is at its core a mix between beat em ups, and semi-rpg games like Hard Times by Mdickie.Graphically my idea is to do something very similar to Asterix XXL and Driver 3 for GBAPic related is a character design.If anyone is interested I'm lerri00 on discord.
>>543154208Gabe newell deserves every single billion he made, why?....... JUST BECAUSE OKAY?!And no I don't care that indie studios literally do not exist because of valve.
>number of vaporware "games" increases every year>amount of quality games stays roughly the sameSounds about right.
My ass hurts from game developing too hard last night...
>>543154567it's really not a gamble it's pretty obvious what ideas would reach the top 1%, the problem is people are actually retarded and will do their best to ignore that 1% because they think it's safer to do another crafting game or another roguelike deckbuilderEveryone knows what the next minecraft or fortnite is
Guys, I’m afraid there might be civil unrest and a potential coup when the general populace finds out Epstein financed and planned 9/11. Should I stop working on my game?
>>543154914people are too apathetic to do shit except vote for the other guy next time maybe
>>543154567If you do truly reach the top 1% of skill, you are guaranteed to make it. Maybe not every game you make will be a massive hit, but you will very easily be able to steadily pump out games that each yield revenue well above US median household income for your time spent.
Fist for Alice
>>543154208>>543154708>another seething crybaby crying about valve editionBoooriiing
>>543154567>What's the point of making gamesexpressing your soul
Does anyone else notice a productivity boost when using a buttplug?
Alright I'm sick of everyone saying it's too difficult to submit to /v/3 so I hired this guy to help you out. https://thev3expo.com/submit/
>>543155040There are brainwashed glowies who don’t know the truth about the US, and sometimes act out in interesting ways if they aren’t closely monitored, say on 4chan perhaps, and then party banned before they do something stupid. I have no personal experience with that though…
>>543154506>eat the rich wahSo true sister!
Success breeds
gaben should take 80% hes the only reason you can sell your game without him you would get 0% because where would you sell your game? going door to door asking people to buy it? lmaowithout him you would be nothinghes actually insanely generous by only taking 30%
Anyhow, I’m working on these COMPLETELY FICTIONAL serialized games based on some stories some friends and I wrote.
>>543155681with who
>>543155502That's not what I said. I wasn't being ironic.
>so there I was>underneath Area 51 >working on Zeta Reticulan ships!>Bob, did you leak information about the F-117 >and now the feds are forcing you to be a clown?
>>543154784>vaporwarethat word doesn't mean what you think it means
Here’s a little sneak preview of some concept art for “book” #3
https://youtu.be/TN-pHAHqXDI?t=211everyone is making fun of the bosci xisters...
>>543156383?
>>543156840It's really not that complicated.
>>543157051big news for the jobless
Unity:>Our new render graph is amazing and easy to use!! Want to learn more? Check the documentationalso Unity:>Lol, you want documentation for this new feature?? We won't have it for you until that feature is deprecated
>>543156935I actually kind of dig those characters.
>>543156935even a thread bully like fygoon gets fanart and me and my game? nothing.......
meds ducky
>>543154208Have (You) considered merchandising?
>>543157657They just give me Benadryl and throw the paperwork away.
>>543157462all I got out of posting here was a schizo that found my instagram account and started messaging me about agdg
>>543156840Imaging watching shit like this even while devving instead, for example, comfy blow rumbling
how is it that only trainwiz seemed to be the open world dev that finished his gameWhats the secret to not burning out
>excuse me chaplain>there’s a mixup, I’m not crazy>im being attached by demons, in the Buddhist sense of the word, and punched one in the face>ahh, got ya>I’ll get you out as soon as i can
>>543157908I don't think Underspace can be considered open world. Isn't each system and station is instance with loading screens? There is no open overworld.
>>543157854>comfy blow rumblingwhatyou mean rambling?jon blow rambling?me the fuck too. his lispy geeky voice is quite soothing. it's like leaving the radio one but it's very opinionated and sometimes adorably self-aware of his rambling
>>543157854youtube autoplay gets polluted with popular normaltroon shit after 50 videos or so, i have no idea why if i refresh it by going back to homepage and picking a new video it goes back to my algo
>>543158142by that logic TES isn't open world because the areas are separated with loading screens.
All done and its fully rigged with inverted hull.The twintail textures are missing.https://take-me-to.space/rOnw97VD.rarEnjoy.Now i can dev for DD.
>>543158186>me the fuck too. his lispy geeky voice is quite soothing. it's like leaving the radio one but it's very opinionated and sometimes adorably self-aware of his rambling
>>543157908train autism.Never underestimate train autism.
>>543158431just remove the hair influence from the coat. I forgot.Im tired
>>543158431basedbasedbased
>>543158431Make the fat booby purple haired gal too
>>543158426TES has a very large open world that you can spend countless hours seamlessly traversing across without loading screens if you choose not to fast travel.
>>543158142I'm glad I share this thread with people like you, it gives me confidence that if you're able to make a game, then I absolutely can.
>>543158431who is that supposed to be?
>>543158186>oneON. OOOONNNNNNNNNNNN.
>>543158723Is Starfield not open world then?
>>543156935Do the fell beasts not cower when in the presence of a king?
Technically when you're traveling in Elder Scrolls there are loading screens, they're just so incredibly brief you wouldn't notice them unless you were moving very fast. Therefore, it isn't open world.
happy caturday /agdg/. yesterday I got a basic attack system for my game created and today I'm taking some time to clean up my code and create a concept of Actions before I get too much further. I'm having a lot of fun learning about how to make games I hope you're having a good day too.picrel is the IT department
>>543157392Oh I got loads more of these characters, 40 of which appear as enemies in the game.
>>543158958kings arent virgins
>/agdg/ - /b/ without videogames
>>543158941Technically speaking, it's open world since it contains all the tech necessary like asset streaming, but practically speaking, it's not since none of the gameplay encourages players to engage with the open world, so no player does. Sad, really.
>>543158958They do not as the "king" in reality is nothing more than a mere courtyard jester.
>>543158786AI says Frieren. I don't need humans anymore.
>>543157908>Whats the secret to not burning outNot project hopping.
Test progress Recaphttps://litter.catbox.moe/uay2horurqprd1wb.mp4>8 threads>5 days>180 files>15-25 progress posts per thread>22.5 progress post on average>around 60 different games posted>posts excluded: loli with microbikini>favorite moment: anon doing the 256fes challenge and other anons caring about his progressWhile looking for all the progress I realized that there's way more valuable posts than I expected, I took several screenshots in the process. Unfortunately, it's easier to engage in meaningless discussions than looking for them.My recommendations>ignore posts that have nothing to do with gamedevving>progress anchor>filters usage>post your work regularly, even if the changes are minimal
>>543158958it's spelled "fel" with one L, mister i have good didaction dumbass nigga
perhaps make a game insted
>>543159669Merriam-Webster's dictionary disagrees.
>>543159587>>posts excluded: loli with microbikiniCHADgoon, incinerate this entire thread
>>543159587I'm telling you, the death of the recap is what really killed these threads.
What is an engaging way to do combat in a Horror RPG Maker Game?
I tried adding multiplayer to the ball eater game. Yeah its def got to be copilot the chatbox is the dumb way to do it.
>>543159587Holy shit you literally made something comparable to /v/3 and you made it more focused. Can you make one of these every demo day so those faggots can finally leave.
His silence on Cuffbust is deafening
>>543155104>Women when I explain to them how the Dragons' Alliance of Frydar Island defeated the Grand League of DarkWater Island, allowing the Fygoon Clan to rise to power and unify the scattered lands into a single Kingdom of Frydar Island
>>543159915RapeNot enough rapelikes out thereRape is totally blowing up rn
>>543156935this has femcel vibes
>>543160119I view Chris and Gavin as opposing factions in the gamedev meta discourse. Chris teaches you to optimize for the Steam algorithm while Gavin teaches you to optimize for YouTube/TikTok/Twitter/Twitch.
>>543160454this is big for the unemployed
>>543159229I like the style, checked out the itch page. Everything done by you? Quite the accomplishment.
>>543160704*Self-employed. Gamedev is my jobby.
>>543160836nah, posting about fygoon and other ecelebs is your jobby your employee of the month in my book btw
>Oh I got loads more of these characters, 40 of which appear as enemies in the game.>I like the style, checked out the itch page. Everything done by you? Quite the accomplishment.
>someone said something I don’t like>time for the green text
>>543159229>>543161427>>543161158>>543161085>>543160836personally i view all these posts as equally bad
>>543161427i'm just making a joke can you please pretend it's funny, please
ludokinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU8ZYffXLtU
>>543160827Yep: I did the design, story, programming, scenario, music, modeling, drawing, web design, and painting on the page. Only two voices were not done by me as they were done by my best friends who are represented in-game, in a very exaggerated manner, as the two best friends of Fygoon. I'm hoping to make some dough so I can pay the two for their services and publish my game on Steam. They told me on a call that they were unwilling to be paid until my game was on Steam even though I offered it; they are quite the characters, but they are awesome friends for supporting me.
>>543161565One of those was my post. I like the characters, LBA is one of the best games made, his characters are endearing to me.
Gonna take a small break from devving and make a loli today.
>>543161494I am deeply offended.
Cant wait until all the loli posters are rounded up and they put this site behind ID verification
im da sloppada sideproject droppamy game's a floppa
>>543161606I'd play this if it wasn't multiplayer American genre game
>>543161626>Yep: I did the design, story, programming, scenario, music, modeling, drawing, web design, and painting on the page.the solodev plight, having to wear one billion hats
>>543161775basedbasebased
>>543154208It makes me sad to see good indie games go unsuccessful. You can make a gem of a game but no one is going to hear about it if you don't have streamers advertising it. For example https://store.steampowered.com/app/1496120/Phantast/
>>543162071>hidden gems don't exi--AACK!!!
>>543162071>19.2 hrs on recordThat's the final nail in the coffin for average playtime theory. It's over.
>>543161427>someone said something I don’t like>time for the green text
>>543161773Thanks for the comment. I would say my game's style is also comparable to that of Ecstatica, but my style developed independently.>>543162007I see it as no issue. When I get bored of programming, I can pivot to writing, then art, then compositing, etc., thus still working on my game.
>>543162326dude played 2.4 hours of that, decided it was unplayable, then played another 16.8 hourskeep in mind that in order to succeed, you have to think like these "people" too
>>543159587>>posts excluded: loli with microbikini
>>543163802i look like this
Am I gonna make it?
curious, very curious
im nervous
>>543166258on the surface you look calm and ready to drop flops
Balancing is like one of the top 3 hardest parts of dev.
>>543159587incredible work anon, well done, but you should know that furry ball-busting game was a shitpost, I've seen it multiple times, it's at least 2 years old. Other than that isn't one of the audio tracks used in Jargon?
>>543161427>>someone said something I don’t like>>time for the green text
I'm changing my diet to the same meal that stealth bomber pilots eat so that I can maximize game development time and minimize the time I spend expelling bowel movements. What are some game development tips like this you can share?
>>543167128>>>someone said something I don’t like >>>time for the green text
>>543167145>shit vision>IBS>6'2"i could NOT be a pilot
>>543159587Nice.
>>543167342it's a good thing you're in a game development general and not a test pilot general
>>543154567because I already spent years upon years and reached the 1%if you're too weak just give up
>>543166707howd you get a picture of my cat
>>543159854the main problem with this format is the video length, but since our problem is another one I'll try something different>>543160082with that reasoning you'll be seething about me eventually>>543163802sorry, I still feel bad about it
>>543154567>What's the point of making games when it would take years upon years of hard work to reach the top 1% and even then, is a gamble that is not guaranteed to work.
God I need a haircut so bad but I have no money left.Hurry up fatfuck gabencunt, give me my payout.
>>543167957Stop being a pussy you'd do better than Betz and probably have more success if you don't try to add le shitposts between it.
>>543154680getting programmers should be much easier than artists but you should really post more than one thing, usually artists post portfolios. Art consistency is a huge aspect of game art that you just don't get from a single image.but if you got some sod adding you already then w/e
The youtuber I contacted actually said he'll try my game and he redeem the ksteme key
>>543167145I currently swap between two places. In one place, the food I eat makes me shit about once a day. In the other place, I shit every 3~6 days.I do more work in the place where I shit every day.Also, please don't forget that the toilet is a great place to come up with ideas. All of my best ideas are ideas I had while shitting.
>>543168524congrats :)
>>543168849>All of my best ideas are ideas I had while shitting.Noted, I've adjusted my strategy.On days where I need to write lots of code or do refactoring I will eat a bland turkey sandwich. Then, when I need ideas I will switch to something that makes me blast diarrhea
>>543167313>>543167128me too me too!ahem>>>somebody has saided a thing I like not >>>timing for teh aquamarine letters!
>>543159587>https://litter.catbox.moe/uay2horurqprd1wb.mp4wtf now I'm pumped to work on my game so I can see it in this (I've been saying this for six years but no progress yet)
>>543169128>me too me too!>ahem>>>>somebody has saided a thing I like not >>>>timing for teh aquamarine letters!
can we limit the >spamcopy posts to maybe five a thread idk let's have a little respect for the place where we all sit in steaming shit with each other ey
>>543162071Are you kidding me that looks like shit
Use case for >spamcopy posts?
>>543154878>pretty obvious what ideas would reach the top 1%Mind sharing a few?
>>543169070you also have to account for>shitting too quickly means not enough time for ideas>anything that would un-relax you will also fuck you up>anything that would distract you like phones cannot be allowed
>>543171314https://www.google.com/search?q=Tacit+Knowledge&udm=14
>>543167108>was a shitpostkek, I was doubtful with some games but I never suspected about that one>one of the audio tracks used in Jargon?two actually, I did a transition similar to Balatro so it seems like one>>543167390thanks>>543169821>for six yearsmake pong, now!
Do I really have to get IBS to succeed as a solodev?
>>543171391I've decided that the best course of action is actually to take on a diet that is so volatile that it allows me to manage my development and ideation time using the pomodoro method.25 minutes of development time5 minutes on the toiletafter 4 of these cycles 30 minutes on toiletrepeat
>>543170974post game
>>543171818Regardless look at that thing it was drawn in ms paint with a mouse
>>543171818It's true, almost every agdg game looks better, sorry.
>>543172012>>543172232Why are you falling for that bait? The game is 5 years old, it’s probably not his.
>>543171669godspeed
>ESLs can't comprehend obvious jokesgood grief...
There are no such thing as hidden gems, because if something were a hidden gem that deserved to succeed, then it wouldn’t have failed in the first place.
>>543173405That’s dumb, publishers crater good games all the time on purpose to eliminate competition.
Considering joining some other gamedev communities.It seems forums (which, despite being a zoomer, I find superior to most modern social media options) are sadly out of style, outside of official forums dedicated to unity or unreal, so this is gonna be tricky.No, I don't want to use Reddit again.There's probably a fuck ton of discord servers I could join but I'm gonna have to make a separate discord account from my current one.In fact, I might have to make a new internet persona/screenname to do this, which is gonna be a ton of work figuring out because LITERALLY EVERY SCREEN NAME IS TAKEN NOW. JESUS CHRIST.So, I'm wondering whether I should even bother joining communities right now (especially because they might be prone to ugly things such as drama).
I have shareware games from the 80s written by bedroom coders that I still play. If one person plays it, it’s worth it.
>>543174020Tigsource forums might still have some life left in them.
>>543174020anon that's a very whiney and vague post you left us here. just try something out instead of dismissing it without trying, we can't do the trying for you
>>543171646this is me -> >>543167342AND my game flopped so no, inconclusive
Do we all have IBS?
>>543174020some of those discords require a unique phone number to be tied to itwhy not go to a real life gamedev place?
Apparently in my area, I need to register a business if I am profiting regularly. This sucks.
>>543174721That sounds like a nice problem to have desu
>>543174917NTA but of all the zeldas to coompost a random image of as an unrelated attachment, why twilight princess zelda? She is the OBJECTIVELY worst zelda. At least coompost OOT (adult) or LTTP/LBW Zelda
>>543175096
>>543175201No, anon. I'm not baiting, I'm dead serious. TP Zelda is the LAMEST zelda (I mean the girl, not the game, never played the game. My favorite zelda GAME is wind waker). Post LTTP Zelda art instead.
You now have the urge to make an ADVENTURE gamehttps://youtu.be/9H6yUZLQfes&t=136
>>543175096>OOT (adult)>(adult)
>>543175096Im just going to play twilight princess for that little imp slut
I wrote a small web service that sits on an AWS EC2 instance and listens for game servers. So now I can have an in-game server browser and can join different servers.I still need to lock the server browser service down so people can't just spam fake server listings at it.
>>543177105What engine is this? Is this your first game? Would you recommend doing a multiplayer game for your first game?
>>5431775041. Godon't2. No3. No
>>543177105nice, how much that costs ?
So I was on Instagram and I think I just witnessed the first Alice thirst trap ever made and there is a girl spamming the comments about how it belongs in a museum and shit. I mean, I like Alice as much as the next guy, but good lord that girl is fucking crazy. I mean, like, tone it down, you're not beholding the Sistine Chapel.
>>543177105Shit, you made an isometric shooter too? I quit, can’t compete in this market. /sLooks good.
Damn, Russian women on Instagram fucking outclass me at Aliceposting. When it comes to dedication to the art, I'm a damn amateur.
Its over for artcels youve been beat by the slopa
Made more funny portraits. I may not even use them all, but at least now I have an anchor for everyone else.
>>543154567I've been watching a lot of deep video essays about westerners discovering obscure games, the type of games that's found in a dumpster and they get popular eventually. Maybe we will have that opprtunity too. We may never be talented writers or creators however there is always a chance to strike gold.
>>543180027What AI do you use?
>>543180151My natural stupidity of course.
>>543180027Oh god this is AI isn't it
remember way back in the day when people would call stuff that was like minecraft "mineycrafta". Do people still say stuff like that?
>>543180241Based. >;-)
>>543180282It's not.
My one day side project jam got delayed by one more day because I ran into a stupid bug that took all day to debug.
>>543160836Do you actually earn from it
seeing fygoon thirst after random internet girls is somehow more cringe and creepy than when bocchiposters do it
i gib up on gamedeving bye guys
>>543178775So far nothing, the service runs on a t3.micro which is within the free tier. If I were to have to pay for it I think it'd be about $100 per year. I'm not sure what kind of instance I'll need for a full game server with 32 slots, but testing the game server with a different t3.micro it wasn't even breaking 10% CPU so I'll have to do some testing.
>liking girls is weird cringe and creepyhomo
>>543174020Why do you have to create a new persona? Why not use your current persona or your real identity? Only nsfw and politically incorrect devs need fake identities
Do you guys think a 3D platformer could work with just a left joycon?I've been thinking about making an erotic game that can be played with just one hand for input. This controller scheme would be optional of course.
>>543181790I'm not a porndev or into politics, I just prefer having separate internet personas for separate thingsThough yeah I could just use my real identity
>Where are you putting the other joycon?
>>543181235he cant even drink and his brain is not fully developed yet, cut him some slack
>>543182125The right joycon wouldn't be put to use since the other hand is doing something much more important.
>>543180775I dong care if thats a troon would You look like you came out from resident evil
>>543181790What exactly qualifies as politically correct anymore? About 50% of the population agrees that our government has been subverted by Israel. I feel way more correct than I ever have.
>>543182019Why do coomdevs always go for platformersI get that you are tired of rpgmakerslop but can’t you think of something with a little more class
>>5431826463d platformer is actually rare because its physics heavy and most gamedevs are dumb
Testing 256x256 textures.
>>543182857How do you make models like this?
>>543182646I'm a tendie, I like happy bouncy platformers.I could go for an action style game but that's not what I want to make
>>543182963with blood, sweat and cum
>>543182857kys latinx
Anyway lots of old 3D games use one stick for movement and camera. It’s called tank controls. Forward/back is movement, left/right is turn. Double flick back sometimes quick 180sThe camera often has additional treatment for specific room shapes and encounters. Auto-turning to frame scenes, enemy lockon, etc. but thats a lot of complexity with plenty of room for jank, on top of being widely disliked. most developers are happy to cut it out for the much cheaper and more expected twinstick style controls
>>543182857i look like this
This general sucks cause no gaem
>>543182857Built for RPG (Rape-Playing Game)
>>543182771Im questioning anon’s decision to combine coomdev with platforming mechanics. There’s no throughline. It’s like adding platforming to a farming sim. Whats the point?
>>543182998you are letting nostalgia get in the way of your designI don’t think any of us are immune to it but it’s a dangerous game. Thousands of steam flops a year are just some dev blindly following their own esoteric taste
Damn Keeper did worse than the an /agdg/ game.
Ball eater eats balls snd can make bread but then what. Its supposed to br an economic sim.
games need to use hardware peripherals/accessories moreI implore you, fellow pc game developers, to use shit like printers, microphones, webcams, etc for input/outputI.E look at how some handheld nintendo consoles had accessories that were used by games back in the day
>>543184427You just reminded me all that buttheart when ultrakill dev added buttplugs support
>>543184807>buttheartMydyslexia keeps progressing...
>>543184807the what
>>543184975The game can send signals to sextoys throgh bluetooth or something like that
>>543184807my bambi sleep interactive AI generated feminization sim WILL have buttplug AND chastity cage AND Hasan Piker Collar support.
>>543183423>to combine coomdev with platforming mechanicsYou get to see a girl's giant tits bounce and sway around while she's doing acrobatics at different angles, alongside using her curves to interact with various obstacles. Power-ups could also change her appearance to keep arousal flowing.
>>543185334But why???? The game isn't porn, right? Why add official IOT SEXTOY SUPPORT to your game that's supposed to be SFW? ARE MODERN DEVS RETARDED
>>543187130the fanbase is full of degens
>balatro with sextoy support
>minesweeper with rectal hand grenade
>GAME but done with AI
>>543183153that's kanna thoughbeit
>>543159587Great work.
>>543190302I lost.
is the white flash too hard on the eyes or is it fine, let me know
>>543191231White flash doesn't make me feel uncomfortable, but what is it for, parrys? I think a screen wide effect for that is too much, maybe localize it to around the player or make it an arc pointed at the new projectile direction?>godotwasn't this game in unity? been awhile since I played it on DD
>>543191231why would anyone play this over hotline miami 2
>>543191231Your game has real visibility issues. Maybe some thicker outlines could help without having to revamp the entire artstyle. But yeah the light is a little too harsh even though it's grey. Maybe it's because it's so sudden, Maybe you want to make it a little transparent. I'd experiment a bit.
>>543192161are you retarded? it's an open arena, not a room by room one hit kill rush game
>>543182384I don't post about politics. I have changed my mind about many things, and I don't want a permanent record of things I believed in. If people want to attack you, they won't care about nuance or that you have changed your mind. I'm not American, but Mozilla's cofounder was ousted for donating to get prop 8 passed in 2008 (bans gay marriage). It passed with a majority voting for it in liberal California. A year later, Obama ran on a marriage should be between a man and a woman platform, but Brandon Eich was ousted in 2014 over this. Mainstream political views might be considered downright evil 10-20 years down the line, and you don't have the fame or significance to prevent someone from causing a headache if you make it. I prefer to express my dumb takes as anon. I don't publish my games under my real name, but it's fairly easy to get my personal info from the llc I use to publish them on steam.
>>543192372Ah, I don’t want to “make it”. I’m publishing under someone else with a pseudonym.
>>543182857she looks like she rapes male orcs
>>543192069It is for parries, it's not really disorienting, as you can still see the enemies and projectiles pretty clearly even when the effect is active, I just needed to know if it made players uncomfortable, thanks for the feedback>godotit was ALWAYS godot (the right game engine)>>543192161top down = hotline miami hurrr durr im fucking retarded look at me guys>>543192187it for sure has visiblity issues, i'm planning on making a 3d model for every enemy, (so they have attack animations lol) and giving them a thick outline as well as extra visibility options in the settings, i'll try making it gradual/greyer also, thanks for the feedback
>>543193504retard
I'm afraid
dead hobby dead general
>>543192372>Mainstream political views might be considered downright evil 10-20 years down the lineWell the pendulum is swinging hard to the right and the very paradigm of the post-war international liberal consensus might be ending within the next decade. Cancel culture I think is dead, at east the vulgar display of power and cultural hegemony that the left enjoyed in 2015 or so is over, back when they'd spend all day trawling though every post you ever made and then launch a campaign against you for the gay joke you made in 2007. In contrast for the right to cancel you, you have to be a complete ghoul by gleefully celebrating someone you disagree with getting shot in front of his family and a crowd of people. Leftoids are in full retreat and quickly becoming culturally irrelevant as the old words of power like fascist and racist don't work anymore.so I don't think we're going to return to 2015-style cancel culture. So you'll probably be alright unless you're just embarrassed about how cringe you used to be.
if notch got away with adding an obvious jewish caricature to his game that is still innocently loves by millions to this daysurely i can get away with shitposting on 4chan a little bit
>>543194773If villagers behaved like Jews and actively kept trying to let zombies and creepers into your base then people probably wouldn't love them so much
>>543113864Trying to convert the game's success into a youtube slop revenue stream as well was just the smart thing to do and if you had a game that made it, you'd probably at least consider it too.What he flubbed was the execution. He clearly got lucky but instead of showing the appropriate level of humility and memeing on himself, he instantly started trying to act like some cool dev guru. I made it through half of one of his videos (before I even knew who he was coz I watch a lot of dev slop on youtube) and stopped it coz he sounds like a fucking moron. It makes me wonder if he was at least smart with his money. It might be a good long while before he gets another big hit of income like from his first game, if at all.Even if you're a hobby Chad, that's something you should plan for just in case you have money suddenly dumped in your lap. If even just ONE of my games is a moderate success, a good chunk of the money will be going straight on our mortgage.
my game will feature Dante from Devil May Cry, do you think I will get in trouble?
>>543195023They have their own methods to keep themselves safe (just going indoors at night, aka living in a militarised ethnostate). But even if the worst should happen, the player is meant to be a US zogbot soldier whose job it is to protect the villagers when they stray into villages.
>>543196026no, he's public domain. go for it.
>>543166295Imagine having this pissy attitude just because you don't know how to make games, therefore automated systems built upon mass plagiarism should be able to do it for you and make you free money lmao.
gamedevs must smash down the systems that domesticate the mind
>>543196406We're not legalising pedophilia you faggot.
>>543194773Thanks Notch, sorry for calling you Norwegian earlier.
>>543196598>projectingkys
>>543196257thanks, it's gonna be sick
>>543154208if your game don't have a girl as cute as Arisu then i don't care about your game.
What the fuck am I doing with my life bros. I neet, so I should've made my game by now. But I wake up and play valheim, get bored and browse aggy, play starblast, then play valheim again. I'm wasting my time and failing to *add gamedev skills*. My game is never going to be finished at this rate. I keep telling myself it's going to get better every time I get close to an heroing, but it gets worse. I grow older and end up being a bigger loser. Almost 27 now.
>>543199190
putting the "amateur" in /agdg/
>>543199231just wait a bit longer and inspiration will strike! then you'll work like a madman until your game is done.still waiting at 36
>>543196348the irony is that there probably isn't a working artist in the industry right now that isn't using ai in their pipeline somewhere. especially concept artists, you would be retarded to not use ai for photobashing.
>>543199315this is acceptable.
>>543180775giwtwm
>>543196598not pedophilia, but incest.
>>543159587I'm glad to see my loli with microbikini game wasn't excluded.
>>543199231Honestly anon, just focus on getting a job and some stability. gamedev is clearly not giving you the serotonin or dopamine you need in order to succeed. Your brain isn't malfunctioning, it's giving you a clear direction that you're a fucking loser and need to change. You fix your life and your brain may start producing those chemicals again when you do gamedev.
progress
>>543200539>reproduction at the bottomuh oh
>>543159587my game got excluded only because i'm mexican
>>543201070bokube was included albeit
>>543200771
>>543200808just jack off
>>543178775not anon, but amazon will rape you in terms of egress (bandwidth out of the server).the one good thing about ec2 is that it has a fast cold startup, so spinning up a new instance per session is an option, it's well documented (AI could probably write the code for you and get it working with the risk it does a bad configuration and you lose $), and it supports more languages and countries than other services.This blog post includes a list of alternative services, but it does not apply to games, just website stuff.https://decovar.dev/blog/2023/12/03/oracle-cloud-nasty-piece-of-shit/I have my own project and I think I will go with oracle (even with all the issues, the free tier is too good to be true, even with 10tb monthly upload bandwidth cap before you start paying, I'm gonna try to make my setup not depend too much on oracle specific SDK's so I could move away from it maybe OVHCloud or something)
>>543201349
>>543202976
>>543180027soulignore the soulless replies
where are the indie extraction shooters?I mean obviously not the MMO kind, but surely co op or single player ones could do well too?
>>543203345https://store.steampowered.com/app/2941710/Project_Silverfish/
>>543180027this is cute, but will only reflect positively if the game isn't ass
>>543203345https://store.steampowered.com/app/2971610/HOLE/
almost fell for a pointless refactor scamim using a scriptableObject for something that should really just be a class
Why does dude have to constantly post 24/7? No one appreciates him or it and mentions it to him every single time yet he keeps doing it. Show your parents lil dude and let them intervene already.
>>543156840Played this exact vid in front of my friends once and they all went through the whole thing completely straight-faced. Not even a single chuckle.
How's your Balatro-like Cloverpit-like Megabonk-like BallxPit-like Slots&Daggers-like game going anon?
>>543158786>>543158431why is this simple design so sex
>>543199447worked for me. I only had to wait for about 10 months. maybe you're quoting me
>>543203086
>>543180775>ywn make babies with a girl like this as your wife
>>543205712the longer you wait, the better the game will be because it's like a damn bursting.
>want to make agdg fanart>itch is downoh well there's always next year
>>543205425that's a pretty appropriate response that shit was confusingly unfunny
>>543205447I went for pick 1/4 instead of pick 1/3. this innovation will shake up the industry
>>543205820i am currently doing thisthe difference between us?i have made pong
Here is your settings menus bros. I think I need to get it to work on a controller now (which a huge bitch) but then bring this settings menu prefab to all regular level pause menus too.
>>543206363https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
>>543206515putting the A in Amateur Game Development
>>543206585WHATS WRONG WITH IT
>>543206515im gonna be a grandpa before this game finishes
friendslop and pick 3 should not be combined (a la risk of rain)power discrepencies between players can end in one player having a lot of fun while someone else is bored getting carriedirrefutable
>>543206515>1732x974>100Hz>gyazo.com
>>543206515no thanks, I'll just hold shift while i click the exe
>>543206515boku the screen capture watermark gave me cancerhere is a good open source one i likehttps://getsharex.com/
>>543206636If you don't plan on adding more settings then the huge amount of space is a waste and all of the options are over the place you could've just neatly packed it together. The spacing between buttons at the start is different too.
>>543206887I don't even blame him for that. It's fine. I mean who uses gyazo or puu.sh in 2025, but who cares.
>>543206515>click developer blog>it just opens >>>/vg/agdg
I suck at texturing and I suck at character design.
>>543203564>>543204130cool, never heard of these ones
>>543208787
>>543208787show wireframes
>>543208843
>>543208787how will you get good at character design?
>>543208787FEETOOOOO
>>543208787prompt?
>>543208787why is she smiling like that
>5+ replies to ai generated bait that's posted once or twice a thread every timeare you guys retarded or bots?
>>543209529meds
putting vital HUD stuff in all 4 corners so streamers don't know where to put their window
search running processes for OBS, check its RAM space to place the HUD where the camera is
>>543209529i just don't understand why ai sucks so bad at generating 'lowpoly' models. it's like it half understands the style but it adds these big sweeping curves.
>>543208902
>>543210295It's because it's done after the fact. Most AI uses many different algorithms and "AI" and combine it into one. Image part segmentation and so on.The most important reason for the high poly models is because the AI starts out with some latent space SDF modelling then when it creates a concrete model it uses techniques similar to marching cubes finding the boundary of where that "space" is. In doing so it creates a huge initial model consisting of 10000000s of vertices which the model can mold.Afterwards optimizations and decimation of the surplus of superfluous vertices is done (which could be done by another AI algorithm too, but this is work in progress).
lil guys.
>>543210678where is the microbikini
>>543210993Nice.
>>543208787>>543210678
>>543210678i cant tell if its you or another anon
>>543211331different pedophile
For day 18 I have made a large purple crab. Please enjoy my large crab. Tomorrow I will try to make it so that he can pick up and throw the car.
>>543211930cute
>>543206515>Ten years in dev and just now getting to the settings menu
All this time for a five hour long fucking captain toad ripoff
>>543211930I enjoyed your crab
You guys are stressing too much. just code some junk in javascript with chatgpt
>>543213340I mean is any game here particularly ambitious.
>>543213462or
>comments that didn't age so well
>>543214141gavin left those comments
>>543214141S to spit on the dumbfuck eceleb drone
>>543214439N
>>543213824Not since underspace left
>>543214112Thank you for enjoying my crab. I enjoy your use of action lines. Please look forward to seeing what the crab is capable of in the future.
>>543213581..javascript?
>>543211930Neat crustacean.
>>543214685He sold almost 400 units which means 400 people liked it enough to buy itSuch is the nature of digital shit.
>>543215996>400 unitsanon...
>>543215173Go away phony CHUD
>>543216053It says right there 369 reviews
>>543216274>reviews
>>543216247Hey fanboy. Have no clue what to model next? Go ahead, make this dope render with your skillset. Only the REAL creator of Fygoon can make something cool like this.
>>543216381So how many people bought it then?
>>543216427around 10khttps://gamalytic.com/game/1111930
>>543216415chris chan energy
I'm deving..I'M DEVING!!
>>543216664He's absolutely chris chan 2.0
>>543216587Damn okay thats excellent then
>>543216415> can't even match his own art style for more than few charactersman you suck lmao
>>543216912>>543216664I don't see you modeling.
>>543216912>>543216968I wonder if AI could help him
>>543216664Goon will NEVER reach Chris Weston Chandler's level
>>543216968What would you like to see me model?
>>543217183little girls obviously
>>543217214
>I ran out of UV space
How the fuck is this thread dead on a Saturday night?
can I gamedev if I'm not indian?
>>543217117no
>>543217117where do you get all those Cris pictures?
>>543218208busy playing cuffbust.
>>543154680everyone has ideasyou have no gamedev experience = 99.9999% chance your idea is shit
>>543160454Both of them have some good information but at the end of the day you have to make a game people want to play for it to sell.
>>543218360cris isn't real
>>543199231You like the idea of making games and being a "game developer" more than actually doing the deed. In other words you're delusional and lost on what you actually want to do with your life. Take this moment to take a step back and look at your life as a whole. DO NOT fall back into the same routine of wasting time. If you don't take action NOW you will find yourself in the same exact situation 5 or 10 years from now but the despair will be 1000x worse and there's a high chance you'll kys. Find something YOU WANT TO DO ENOUGH THAT YOU WILL START DOING IT.
>>543200771kill yourself aislopper
This place has crab in a bucket mentality I swear to god.
>>543178884you have 15 minutes to explain how this is germane to the subject of video games and development thereoftimer starts now
>>543219862Women and low-T manchildren require the constant emotional support of others. High-T independent thinkers will fail or succeed solely on their own merits. Hugboxing is the true form of crab. Ugly loser flopdevs want other ugly loser flopdevs to waste away their lives in the same way they themselves did. None of you will make it. Your dreams are incompatible with reality. You're a bunch of ugly fat women caked in pounds of terrible makeup telling each other how beautiful you are in the club restroom.High-T men do not need seek validation. They want to hear more about their flaws and mistakes so that they can work to fix them.
>>543218208Too much crabposting, it just gets old. Even the last two threads the OP is crabposting. It's boring. There has to be more to a community than just a couple schizos telling everyone to give up lmao. At least if you want people to actually check in on a saturday night. And I actually don't have any problem with bocchi posting but when you scroll through and see bochi images and fygoon images and "just give up" rants from the same crab who has been here 10 years it's like come on. This general is cooked.
you can just use whatever you want
>tfw you say something is cooked just because others say it nooooooooooooooooo
Nobody wishlisted my game yesterday but someone boughted it.........
>>543220786
>>543218208Why wouldn't it be? Do you guys work on your game 24/7 and never have any rest?
why isn't there a 'I wish I never bought this' list on steam?
Any tips for doing major refactors? I always feel so overwhelmed when I need to rip out a piece of core functionality so I can redo it. There are dozens of errors and it stresses me out.
>>543221450If it's major enough, it's often better to just scrap everything and do a completely rewrite in a fresh project. It can go much more quickly than trying to untangle aged spaghetti.
>>543221647>If it's major enough, it's often better to just scrap everything and do a completely rewrite in a fresh project.bad advice
>>543221229>200+ IQ>You deving tonight? You eating tonight? You have already made it
>>543199231>What the fuck am I doing with my life bros. I neet, so I should've made my game by now. But I wake up and play valheim, get bored and browse aggy, play starblast, then play valheim again. I'm wasting my time and failing to *add gamedev skills*. My game is never going to be finished at this rate. I keep telling myself it's going to get better every time I get close to an heroing, but it gets worse. I grow older and end up being a bigger loser. Almost 27 now.
>>543221763Cope. You'd rather let the wound fester than rip the bandaid off.
>>543217117Qrd on this person
>>543221986>>>/wsg/6002843
>>543208787>>543210678Stop being harsh. It's better than anything I've made. I like the textures.
>>543154679The mindbroken spammer just can't come to terms with him having made a bad game/a game the market doesn't want
>>543220552And yet crabs are the insecure bitches who want to drag everyone down with them, curious
>>543221450Backup your project before refactoring and document every step of what you're doing and how things function before and after changes. If you can explain it inside and out, you won't ever be overwhelmed.
>>543221229See what I mean. This guy spends actual energy making these gay meme templates to try and validate his obsessive shitposting. This isn't game development.
>>543222446What game did he make? Enlighten us, bicht.
the worst thing i've seen my whole life.
>>543222465>>543222890Many of the "crabs" have already made it or at least have upmost confidence that they themselves will make it. None of the losers who spam "WAGMI" have made it yet. Which group do you think is inside the bucket?The most motivating advice I've seen here at /agdg/ is the fact that gamedev is so insanely hard that it filters out the vast majority of participants. If gamedev wasn't so hard and just about any retard could make it with enough dedication, then it wouldn't be nearly as rewarding for those of us who are actually competent AND dedicated.
>>543220552>>543221229>none of you will make itThis is what you say but>"we all gonna make it"nobody says that. Most game developers know it's not a hopeless endeavor, but it's also not a charity. Tiny brains however have a difficulty thinking in anything but absolute terms.The crab has a tiny brain. And yet it wants to be heard the most among big brain devchads.
>>543223391>None of the losers who spam "WAGMI"This isn't a thing. You're mentally ill.
>>543223391What's a crab?
>>543223574>none of you will make itSpecifically, that's "none of you crying about crabs". Some of us will make it, or have already made it. Those of us that have it within ourselves to make it aren't going to be bothered by any kind of demoralization posting and in fact interpret demoralization posting is motivational posting.
>>543222465Exactly. You don't see any of us devs pulling on eachother saying "COME ON EVERYONE WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT"But the crab actually does desperately cling to our legs insisting everyone is going to fail or most people will fail, trying so hard to convince us of something. So insecure. So sad.
>>543223785Anyone who dares to provide negative feedback. The ultimate life form.
>>543223391>Many of the "crabs" have already made it or at least have the upmost confidence that they themselves will make it Even if you've already made it (lol) why crab? Who cares if some rando on the internet tries to make a game. Why be a whiny sissy who tells people to give up?
>>543223806Nobody is motivated or even slightly affected by your garbage. It's boring. You're not affective, you're not interesting. Take your meds.
>>543223847>Exactly. You don't see any of us devs pulling on eachother saying "COME ON EVERYONE WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT"oh really, bitch?
>>543222667Thanks
>>543199231Been there, done that, almost 33You have been addicted to fast relief through your computer all your lifeThink "I need to have less going on" rather than "I need to be doing more"Your screen time is taking up your productivity, plain as>get an app/website blocker>go through the ~week long withdrawal>get into a habit of just doing the tiniest thing every day, even if it's downloading another reference picture or guide or writing one line to an ideas .txtThat's it. Also being a need is not helping, you have all that time but paradoxically the stress from how much you "should" be achieving every day suppresses action more than if you only had 3-4 hours a daySo I'd also get a jobFinally, you're unlikely to actually commit to something like this even if itsspelled out in this reply and even if another hundred anons who have been through it tell you the same. You'll likely just keep heading towards rock bottom and then, maybe, you'll feel the pit in your stomach telling you it's time to stop the addiction and become someone marginally more productive. So keep going as you are, be even more wasteful, double down on the over indulgence and stare st your screen and phone for even more time per day. Good luck god bless
>>543223963It's just sad to see. Have you ever tried fixing Cris? So many of the posters were are on the same level, and they're all wasting their life away at a fruitless endeavor.
>>543223963>Who cares if some rando on the internet tries to make a game.The crab does. Crabs are leaving the bucket and this makes him panic. Like a frightened kitten who doesn't want to be left alone in the box while the other kittens are being adopted. It's quite sad where the crabs inner motivations really come from. A truly desperate and pitiful state of being.
>>543224015So this is why you're crying about WAGMI lmao. You're just admitting that your crabposting is even more inauthentically motivated than we could ever imagine.What a petty and dreadful existence. What a jealous, jealous little creature.
>>543224360>So this is why you're crying about WAGMI lmao.I'm not the anon crying about WAGMI, I don't give a shit. But I do have a problem with you lying about how yesdevs "never actually pull everyone together, we're all lone wolfes on our own!" and when confronted with proof you just backpedal and try a "no u".Just very dishonest and faggot behaviour.
>>543223963>>543224091 (cont.)Btw, I didn't start out this way. /agdg/ turned me into this kind of person. I've wasted countless hours providing free technical tutoring to so many of you. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. So few devs here actually has a vision or basic design sense. It's just painful to watch. Without a vision, you're not cut out for being a solo indie developer. If you want to stay in gamedev, you'd be way better off working under someone who does.
>>543224015>>543224589>nooooo these gamedevs are trying to support and encourage eachother they say "we are all gonna make it" noooooooWhy do you care lmaoAnd nobody spams WAGMI in these threads. So once again, you're mentally ill.
NOOO I DEMAND A HUGBOX GIVE HEAD PATS AND TELL ME IM A GOOD BOY
>>543224617>I've wasted countless hours providing free technical tutoring to so many of youDelusional.>You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drinkBut master, you are our teacher, we do drink your precious water remember? You tutored us!
if you don't make 10 million dollars from your indie game, you've wasted your life. what, do you think this is some kind of hobby!? euuuggghhhh!!!!!
Some of you were clearly not loved and duly encouraged to improve as children and it shows... it's gross lol please keep the childhood trauma to yourselves
>>543224701Okay, so you're just a retarded tranny faggot who's gonna backpedal and act as if you never said the dumb shit.Go suck Shodanon's cock or whatever.
Anons I'm looking for a game to play that will inspire my own sim gameSomething cozy but also genuinely funInterlocking systems and gears under the surface if you know what I meanI've been out of the loop
>>543225030the sims
>>543220552>>543224710>spends his life fretting over people "hugging" eachother over the internetCurious.
>>543165754Your invite tp /pgdg/ is in the mail.
>>543225030be more specific. sim game is too broad. what do you want to do in the game?
When I post the steam games released versus 1k reviews chart I'm not saying>Its impossible, just give upI'm saying>Wow steam's algorithm is unfair dogshit and we should raise awareness and demand betterThe problem is every game dev is entrenched in the boomer "Fuck you! I got mine!" mindset and they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enough and anyone who succeeded in the past would do so today so nothing will be done.
>>543225064Not like a life sim but something more like (this is going to be waffly cause I don't know the words) there are things in place like restaurant npcs that make and bring food and clear tables etc, and they interact with customers all on their own, and customers interact with other things too, and the player can be involved such that the npcs won't approach customers you're already serving, or you can head into the kitchen and fix up/finish a plate of food yourself. A systems game? Imsim?
>>543224867some encouraged too much and got delusions of grandeur (me)
>>543225217i wouldnt know i dont play fake "games" for women
>>543225194Fuck you, I got mine!
>>543225260Not sure what's fake about that but by God if it's popular for women I'm 200% invested now
>>543225194>we should raise awareness and demand betterI think we should make videogames. There are plenty of more worthwhile things to get all crybaby activist about.
>>543225194>and anyone who succeeded in the past would do soWhat's funnier is that this isn't true. It hasn't ever been, not even in the best of times. Outside of a literal handful of exceptions like Jon Blow, if you succeeded in the past you're more likely to fail NOW even if you did everything right, simply because the market is rigged so much against you now.
my game will succeed in spite of steam's algorithms
>>543225194>The problem is every game dev is entrenched in the boomer "Fuck you! I got mine!" mindset and they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enough and anyone who succeeded in the past would do so today so nothing will be done.how do you know its not true though? people make some absolute trash, and are incredibly deluded about how good their trash is
>>543225030captains of industry
>>543225194>they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enoughWhat does "trying hard enough" have to do with anything. Nobody talks like that. If you fail, your game wasn't a good concept, it didn't have an audience, you didn't market it, etc. etc. Nobody says boomer things about trying hard or bootstrapping here. Blaming steam for not finding a way to get you guaranteed sales with their storefront algorithms makes no sense. Why should they be forced to wave your game in front of people who have already proven they don't want it. Because you "tried hard"?
The crab is a failure. Bitter and jealous. This is their lot in life. The meme is earned.
WAGMI
>>543225801>who have already proven they don't want itHave you proven it though?
you should learn about steam's algorithms, create a game that becomes successful, and use your success as a point of respect to convince valve to change their systemit's the only wayprove you're not a whiny nobody flopdev, make a successful game, earn respect, and then convince valve to increase discoverability of unique hidden gamesit's not even about helping these games make more money, it's just about making it easier for games with low revenue to be discoveredmaybe a throwaway "discover new games" page with a grid view of unique titles with decent review scores and low revenue would sufficei just dislike how hard it is to organically find cool games on steam that aren't grossing $100,000 a week
6 months after release, if your game is rated very positive or better but under 500 reviews, you should appear on the 'hidden gems' tab
I know this may be shocking but.. I.. I ENJOY gamedev
>>543226014>unique hidden gamesflopslop that hasn't been marketed lol
>>543224815Perhaps, I formed this opinion much earlier in life. I used to do volunteer mentoring programs teaching robotics to kids. I taught at both middle-class suburban schools as well as poorer and special needs schools. They quality of the kids at each was day and night. The primarily white and asian kids at the nicer schools were curious, well-behaved, learned quickly, and could quickly become active independent contributors to the project without their hands needing to be constantly held. The primarily brown and black kids at the less nice schools weren't even all that bad in terms of behavior, but they just learned so much more slowly, and never really got to the point where they would be able to do things on their own without being explicitly instructed on what to do.As a group that cries about browns, I had originally assumed /agdg/ was more like a nice suburban classroom, but in reality, this is a special needs class. NGMI nodev retards like >>543225194 cry about luck and nepotism, but the real luck and nepotism is simply being born to middle-class white or asian parents in a first world country, being encouraged to perform well in school, and staying active in extracurricular activities, many of which would've helped you develop gamedev-relevant skills since an early age.
>>543226270Post your game?
>>543226323loool
What the fuckCuffbust 2? Or is it gonna be the biggest cozyslop?
>>543225575Thank you, this one is really far into the deep end though. I'm basically thinking of a simple restaurant sim but with npc workers I guess, and an independent worker-customer systemThis may be a bit too big for a first game
>>543226207Not every polished rock is a gem.
>>543226421So nodev. Got it. Kill yourself btw.
>>543226315>the crab was just /pol/ in disguise all alongjannies...
>>543226265seriously? you enjoy having an idea, putting a plan into motion, iterating and seeing what was once a glimmer in your brain, come to life on your screen? NGMI
>uses chatgpt to cry on reddit about their game underperforminginterestinghttps://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/1o9vuj0/is_it_okay_to_feel_proud_when_only_1500_people/>>543226265me too>>543226207that'd be a fun experiment, i support this ideaor maybe just add a second discovery queue that only shows games with low review counts>>543226270probably, but am i the bad guy for still wanting to see these games? who gives a fuck if the developer's an autistic retard who doesn't market their games? or if the players were whiny faggots who left negative reviews?i don't care if a game flops, i still want to be able to organically discover it, i don't want to only ever see the games that are grossing top revenueit's fucking boringdo you not enjoy playing shitty unique little games? do you only play popular FOTM shit like a brainless sheep?genuinely, tell me, what's the problem with making it easier to discover shitty games?>durrrr they flopped so they deserve to diedon't fucking remove my ability to enjoy unique games just because the developer's autistic, who gives you that authority?make shitty flops easier to findit's fun to explore weird games
>>543226315>As a group that cries about browns, I had originally assumed /agdg/ was more like a nice suburban classroom, but in reality, this is a special needs class.Agdg is not a "group that cries about browns" lmao
>>543226479multiplayer survival crafty buildy? chris is cumming buckets
>>543226679>don't fucking remove my ability to enjoy unique games just because the developer's autistic, who gives you that authority?make shitty flops easier to findit's fun to explore weird gamesAnon, you're talking to a brown zoomer retard who worships algorithms like gods. If the machine doesn't tell him "it's okay to like this because it's popular" then he loses his mind and doesn't know what to do.
>>543226582for you. gem is a bit subjective.
>>543202771>https://decovar.dev/blog/2023/12/03/oracle-cloud-nasty-piece-of-shit/His fault for trusting jews
>>543226679>i don't care if a game flops, i still want to be able to organically discover itClick genres and subgenres in the store and find your unique titles. It takes 10 seconds. You do are if a game flops, it's literally why you're crying about steam not handing out enough participation trophies.
>>543226207Seems easy to abuse
>You do are if a game flops
Bro had an entire merch shop ready...
>>543226597Like I said earlier, tiny brains. They always do this too >>543226862>these guys must not be white, that's why we can't blackpill them with our trvkes!Just confirms what we already know. Crabs are to be laughed at and ignored, here as they are everywhere else.
>>543226759Half the posts here are crying about indians or pretending to be indian when we don't have a single known indian developer here, but it's true that /agdg/ is not a monolith. It doesn't help your case though when you have posts like >>543226862 precisely 2 posts below your own.
>>543227104those easy methods could be mitigated
>>543206515where's key rebinding
>>543224015WAGMI
how come the focus is always on the algorithm for causing your game to fail, but never on the game itself? dont you think thats more likely?
>>543227298hold shift when starting the game. nta but irrc he's on unity 2017, so that will work.
I kinda feel like all the decisions I'm making, are the same as what manorlord's is going with.
>>543227278How?
>>543227440If you make the exact same game but cheaper I will buy it
>>543227191>typo saar you made typo saar I win saarYou truly are the spirit of jeet.And transexuals.All of the things you obsess over, it's for a reason.
>>543227591that's a grammatical error not a typoevery eop knows only esls make mistakes like that
>>543227454games with evidence of manipulated or artificially inflated reviews ( review bombing, mass key distribution) could be excluded
>I think increasing organic discoverability of low performing games on Steam would make the platform more enjoyable to use for people who enjoy playing unique and obscure games>>You're just blaming Valve for your game flopping bro git gud and stop crying lmaoYou people are not human.
>>543227218maybe if he spent that time instead making a good game
>>543226315>>543227247>me and this other retard talk about peoples skin color when we're getting rolled in a debate agdg is not a group that cries about browns. Two of you crabs being the usual poltards does not represent agdg.
>>543227676>that's a grammatical erroranon... >You do care if a game flops
>>543227218bro really put the cart before the horsehe should pivot to a corporate role in marketing, he clearly despises video games and game development at this point
>>543227724discovery of low performing games is already fine, thats how i know you are just using it as an excuse when what you really mean is "daddy gaben should promote my flop even though no one wants it"
>>543227724>I think [buzzwords]Woah that's crazy you should be given a million dollars, Steam should hire you right now.
>discovery of low performing games is already fineWhy are browns like this? Why do they worship corporations and algorithms so much and think they can never do no wrong?
>>543227786i'll be honest, i did not read your original post, carry on then
>>543227218I bought the cock one. teachers gonna freak
>>543227724>>543227902>AAAIEEEEE YOU ARE NOT HUMAN SAARS YOU ARE BROWN lollll This guy thinks he knows how to make us more successful on steam
>>543227748I'm not the one complaining about browns. I get called brown by nodevs like >>543227902 because I think good games that people want to play deserve to succeed and bad games that people don't want to play deserve to flop. I get called brown because as a nepobaby who's got mine, I attribute my succeed to my own talents and efforts, and I attribute your failures to your lack thereof.
>>543227724>>I think increasing organic discoverability of low performing games on Steam would make the platform more enjoyable to use for people who enjoy playing unique and obscure games>>>You're just blaming Valve for your game flopping bro git gud and stop crying lmao>You people are not human.
>>543227682High review count metrics are protected from manipulation because the number of accounts required makes detection of manipulation both more expensive to the attacker and easier to detect. Since "hidden gems" would have a low review count it would be easy to manipulate the score discretely by using a low number of tailored reviews, so it would be cheaper to manipulate. Meanwhile on Valve's side statistical analysis methods to identify foul play would be under-performant due to the reduced amount of data available per entry inherent to the low review count, to justify manual moderation you'd need the page to generate a very large increase in revenue from hidden gems being discovered as the low cost of manipulation means the number of submissions in need of moderation would be much larger. Hiring a large number of people to review low submission count games would also simply not fit in Valve's profile of having a reduced workforce.
>>543227829>discovery of low performing games is already fineNo it is not. What makes you say this? Do you search for low performing games? I do. It's not easy to find them. How do you find them? What do you do to discover games with low review counts?Take the three games linked below. How would you discover these organically?https://store.steampowered.com/app/2900410/Early_Mellow/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3659990/hatenet/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1165750/PAGAN_Autogeny/I will hold the opinion that Steam would receive endless benefits from allowing games to be sorted on the store not only by genre/tags, but also by review count, release date, and review score. There is no argument against this. I say this from the perspective of a video game enthusiast, not a hopeful developer. I have absolute confidence in the performance of my games. I am not worried about making more money. I am worried about enjoyable experiences being hidden due to suboptimal discoverability systems.The fact that I need to use websites like vginsights.com to find new games should be telling. Steam's discoverability is shit for people with unique tastes.>>543228054You completely fail to understand the point. It is true that good games rightfully succeed, and bad games rightfully flop. This is intentional due to the design of Valve's promotion algorithms.The point is that after a bad game flops, it becomes excessively difficult to discover organically. This does not mean that it should receive algorithmic promotion on Steam, but instead, that the game search functionality should be improved to allow for players to filter for games not only through genre and tags, but also by review score, review count, and release date ranges.There are games that flopped that could still be enjoyed by niche communities. These games do not end up being discovered by these communities due to Steam's suboptimal search functionality.
>>543227590I'm not making it in 3d
>>543206515That's cute, gj.
>>543228648Sorry...
Are there any solid arguments against increasing the complexity of the search feature on Steam?
>>543228781waste of developer effort when barely anyone would actually use it>oh boy i cant wait to play this game that no one else wants to play, let me go filter out all the good games so i can find this onesaid no one ever
>>543228450>>543228781Your problem is that you're a delusional hipster who hates popular things. You feel like you need to present yourself as someone who appreciates obscure things, when in reality, you don't. Post your play times for those three games you just linked. >inb4 never playedIf you won't even play them, why do you expect anyone else to?
>>543228920Same for guy who complains that Banquet for Fools flopped but refuses to post his hours played. These posters don’t actually believe what they type.
>>543228920>ad hominemYou lost.
>>543229347Nah, I'd win.
>>543228450>I will hold the opinion that Steam would receive endless benefits from allowing games to be sorted on the store not only by genre/tags, but also by review count, release date, and review scoreEndless benefits meaning "appease one person who likes the idea of finding buried flop games". Steam does what it knows is profitable. Everything you've been saying is irrelevant to gamedevs who actually want to make games that are played, we don't care what happens in the bottom of the landfill of flop games. Ultimately, you just want to argue >>543228781
>tranime tardSo it really is not human.
>>543229495>appeal to site cultureanyone using this image in an unironic or refutatory fashion must never be allowed to debate again
>>543228417before entering the hidden tab, they could go through a more rigorous check, certain games may be flagged by the system and checked manually. pattern analysis on reviews/account age/number of games owned etc. LLMs could check the text of the reviews too(though I can see this backfiring with current day LLMs which are easily manipulated)
>>543229680profitable does not mean good for the gaymer. I hope you are well versed enough in the games industry to know how this could be the case. but you're right, steam would not receive benefits that outweigh the opportunity cost of not doing so.it's hilarious that consumers always think storefronts fucking over their producers means they only ever have the consumer's interests at heart.
the hidden game tab. what did it send you to? http://store.steampowered.com/explore/random/for me? it sent me to Diablo 4.
>>543229990Good for gaymers != gaymers will buy. You're basically promoting gaming veganism without even being a gaming vegan yourself. Health foods are not as profitable as slop foods.
>>543229990>profitable does not mean good for the gaymerYes it does, it's why steam sales are a thing, saving gamers billions of dollars every year.
>>543230116Holy hidden gem. https://store.steampowered.com/app/949290/Winkeltje_The_Little_Shop/
>>543229718Requiring rigorous manual checks before appearing in the "hidden gems" page would make it perhaps redundantly similar to the curator system that is already in place, which I believe it's how Valve intends you to discover hidden gems.
>>543230319If that's a hidden gem I've just shat out and flushed a diamond (it's very boring, very unoriginal) though it is perfect for the autists who love the repetitiveness and predictability... maybe that's the market to aim for you non-hobbyists
>>543227902>aaaiieeee change the algorithm saars change it now save me with the magical power of your algorithm "No">aiieeeee you are brown saar you worship the algorithm you are not human!
