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Erm where is the news
>>5433222142 months....
>>543322302
>>543322302No......
Trails of subhumans
Haha...
>>543322214Anon said monday... its monday.. *dies*
What news people are talking about?
>>543324072leakeranon promised us news...
>>543324072Hatsuu nudes
Unless it's news that falcom is going to unfuck trails who really cares at this point? I plan to enjoy falcom games but the long term story of kiseki is not enticing. It's a pick and choose franchise. I'm more excited about a port of ys IV than krai 2.
>>543324153But I already got those.
Hatsuus chubby soles... and crankles...
>>543324314I only about kiseki remakes and maybe new ip stuff. And Ys remakes
>>543324314Kiseki has not been as good as it was in the first two arcs but it aint terrible...
Now Ys? What the hell was Ys9? Lol.
I've only played Ys VIII and X. Gotta play the rest.
Five (5) (V) (Go) (五) (ご) cute facts about Towacutest!:1. She is canonically atowable!2. She is mai Kiseki-fu!!3. I love her!!!4. Towacutest!!!!
maybe falcom will unveil that sky 2 remake will come before kai 2.
>>543325405Reminder that Joshua has NO PENISWe checked
>>543325405>censored joshy assCoward.
Estelle is SHOCKED by "Joshua's" PUSSY
>>5433252705. Towa has a nice butt!!!!!
>>543326017sniff
>>543326017Cumming in Kloe's socksMaking her watch itMaking her wear them afterward
>>543326017The princess is carrying THAT?!
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
>>543326017Kloe's ass vs. Alfin's ass
I'm playing Daybreak and it just feels off. It's just not the same without Rean...
>>543327040haha
>>543327371WHAT THE FUCK. AGNES FUCKED UP THE TIMELINE!!!!!!
Guys if anyone here played both NISA and fan translation of daybreak 2, is the NISA script a decent translation or does it change the characters too much and take too much liberties? I can go with NISA or insert the fan translation in the NISA version
>>543327683
>>543325750this is a fan made edit. it's not canon
>>543327683nah, just play with the CLE port and the MTL bro. Trust.Fuck NISA... I really hope Falcom drops them
It'll come at 3pm, tokyo time.
>>543327527Haha...
>>543327883Is Van usually that rude to Agnes? Feels like NISA is putting a weird joke in there when there was none. Like I can believe him talking like that to Aaron,Judith, or Elaine. Hopefully they don’t insert jokes in serious scenes and dialogue that never had it
>>543326017UWOOOOOOOOOOH!
>>543327928Shut your mouth...
>>543328045
>>543328104he can be kinda rude to her at times (like the first time they meet van checks out her body which gets censored in the nisa release) but most of the time its nisa fanfic
>>543321691Ada my beloved
>>543328251I see. But wasn’t he only rude to her though because he wanted her to go away because he didn’t want her to use his services?
>>543328360zamn.....
>>543328104Welcome to EN Localization. Where the motto is "It's impossible to do 1-1 translation........ so we just inserted whatever joke we felt like that day"
Rean would have a thing for Kloe if he grew up in Liberl, honestly
>>543326972Alfin destroys her, not even a contest
>>543328251is it really rude to check out a nubile body like agnes'?
>>543328457The POWER of Kloe-sama...
>>543328446Cold steel 3 and 4 for sure weren’t good localizations but I really feel like more pop culture and memes are there in daybreak 2. Daybreak 1 had a lot but it feels like Van in daybreak 2 is really different with his Japanese counterpart
>>543327883That's nitpicking for the sake of it, the naunce remains the same.
>>543328730I’m not the anon that posted I was the one who asked the question about the localizations. Could you explain how it’s similar if that’s alrite?
>>543328653Hatsuu localized Daybreak 1. If you have followed CS2 blog anon, every image he posted was straight up fanfiction, and that was Hatsuu.
>>543326017Nice bumcrack
>>543328468Uoh
>>543328829Agnes having concerns followed by Van being dismissive. The tone is exactly the same.
>>543328829I'm the anon that posted the image.Do you think that : "Okay, Mom" and "Miss Fussy" carry the same tone as the lax "Don't worry about it"?
>>543328860I see but I saw on a twitter post that some new person was the head editor for daybreak 2 and did 2/3 of the script. lol sry if I’m asking too much I did plenty of research. I haven’t been liking localizations for many games for the past 2 years so I’m being very cautious since this is one of the few games that has a full fan translation
>>543329148I don’t think so. I think the miss fussy part is a bit strange because he didn’t say that in the original all he did was introduce her to swin and Nadia. >>543329012Doesn’t Agnes sound more overbearing in the NISA translation though? She doesn’t really talk like that usually she doesn’t say “don’t think I didn’t see you” she’s more reserved no?
>>543329148Japanese people speak like robots, western people don't speak like robots. Therefore you adjust it to tailor it for the west.
>>543329341
>>543328468This type of shit isn't sexy to me. Reminds me of Tamers12345 lol
>>543329418>I don't think soWell there you go. To answer your question, yes the localization takes a lot of liberties like that. It's your decision at the end of the day.
>>543329505The fan translation don't sound like robot, but whatever you say, colonel.
>>543329249That fucker got shitted on for the rizz line in the game. I mean the localization is way worse than one rizz line. He and his zoomer tranny friends are probably localizing horizon and horizon 2
>it's another "have to equip multiple parties" episodeGeh...
Big fan of JunaJuna's like, a lloydlingShe's like if professor plutonium accidentally dropped both chemical x and a printed out lloyd bannings jpeg into the cauldron he was stirring sugar, spice, and everything nice in
>>543329828
>>543329847>>543329828>>543329881ZAMN!!!
>>543329341Idk how Rean didn't fuck her. She looked DAMN good in that white bikini. The whore even kisses him at the end, no?
>>543329562>purple nurple>original says she pinched his thighs.
>>543329571Yea I’ll use fanpatch it’s unfortunate they kinda have to make it seem abridged don’t they know it’s not their work but falcoms?
>>543329881Lloyd WON
>>543330108I think purple nurple is funnier...
>>543329558>She was going to crash the Pantagruel into Ouroboros' flagshipShe's so based....>>543330020>The whore even kisses him at the end, no?Yup. Rean should have perpetuated the Cayenne lineage
>>543330784Crazy coomer
Rejected, revoked, renounced, and refused...rescinded, retracted, refuted, repealed...
need me a musse bros...
>>543330876The only student Rean kissed...
>>543331207>>543330940she can't be stopped
>>543331634UOH!!!
Who is the biggest slut in Kiseki, Musse or Alisa?
>>543331846Tiosuke...
>>543331846The Grandmaster. She's an e-girl
There are no sluts in Kiseki
>>543331846Alisa is a pure maiden. Musse is an erebonian noble and being a whore is a prerequisite for that.
>>543331913ToT
>>543331981>easy access booba zipper>pure maiden
>>543332105Easy access for Riin-kun and him alone.
>>543332216that pool is for fat balding oji-sans to fuck their whores
Appearances can be deceiving Just look at Reanafemanon, white panties, yet a slut...
>>543332320alisa isn't a whore and your hatred towards her will never make that true.
Tita is so fucking hot in the Sky 1 remake, dear god
Why is he like this
>>543333118Because he's a bad MC from a bad arc.
>>543333118>>543333226samefag
>>543333118he's the HERO
>>543333375Nope
>>543333118There's more to Rean than self-sacrifice and his suicidal nature but either way, it does get kind of boring when other people do bring up Rean's personality being nonexistent. It gets down to how people just think about the media they consume and the kinds of ways they come to conclusions.I don't mind it if people don't find Rean interesting and it's all ultimately down for preference but the personality thing just reeks of someone really trying to say "I'm bored of him so he has no personality since I'm not entertained enough". It tends to tell me that someone isn't putting much thought behind what they're saying and also easily disregards things.
Rean is the weakest protag in the series. Rufus easily tops him as he's capable of beating steel maiden 1v1; Kevin is basically a superhuman with stigma; Estelle was trained by the strongest divine blade; Lloyd beat McBurn 1v1 and Van solos shizuna at his peak. There you go, the definitive proof rean is a weakass who needs 20 of his friends to beat anything.
>>543333118He's socially awkward like me, haha...
>>543333549I think it’s so unserious that people think that his harem has anything to do with the actual character. It’s baffling how many people care about 0.1% of the arc.
>>543333549I mean....Can you blame others when 90% all he is headpats and hahas?
>>543333549Early CS1 Rean was best Rean when he was just a reserved introvert surrounded by strong personalities. I don't remember when he went from a guy who blends in to a guy who never shuts up.
>>543333656And a Siscon too!
>>543333994based. total sis love
>>543333915if you think thats 90 percent then it just shows that this staement I made about "It tends to tell me that someone isn't putting much thought behind what they're saying and also easily disregards things." 90 percent is such a gross exaggeration done in bad faith without actually talking about his legit problems
7 discords status?
1 hour and 13 minutes left. Mark your clocks.
1 hour and 10 minutes left until NEWS!!!!!
>>543333787It is unserious for a character who has this sort of depression and no sense of self-worth, along with heavy feelings of being adrift and where nowhere to belong, to have a harem. Makes it hard to take him seriously. >>543334154Great conjecture. Rather than your worthless assumptions, let's talk about how much you think he is hahas and headpats. I am not reducing him to that, or saying that is all he is or hell, that that is what is most important about him.But that sure as hell is his personality for most of the time.
>>543332949>absolute semen demon bodyshe is easy top 3 sexiest kiseki now. altina is like one of her only competitors
>>543334469>>543334494what did you mean by that
Reanfags are really trying to gaslight people into thinking he has a personality lmao
>>543334579Kind of takes away from the being a tomboy inventor nerd thing though.
>>543334579They better not make her a hag, bros.....
>>543334564he doesnt even headpat and haha compared to the amount of other text that exist. These are big games theres much more than just that yet you fixate on them rather than actually give the character a chance. You hated him in Cold steel 1 because hes a "light novel protag self insert" then you for some reason chose to play 5 games of him while in a bad mood. So your negativity clouded your mind and only hated and hated everything about him on screen and every word he says. just look at the way your talking, hes not even that depressed or doom and gloom as you make him out to be. He still is helping his classmates and talking to them and he does the same for his students. He makes jokes(albeit less than other protags). Hes not some big depressed edgelord that you make him out to be. Hes sad yes because of his situation but theres more to him than "supreme depressed dude" .
not reading allat
No, I should be the one thanking you I didn't do anything at all
>>543334834You better stop playing Kiseki after Sky then.
>>543333118I'm not the biggest fan of Rean, but to say he's an empty typical self-insert is just asinine. You'd have to be debilitated to not see tons of plot points and dialogues that reveal his traumatized and flawed personality, as well as his slow AF, but amazing character development.
>>543335021she's not a hag yet....but who knows what they'll do.....must the fault of (((THEM)))
I don't know why Reanfags can't just admit that yeah he's tropey and generic but they like him anyway. Instead they have to invent 99 different retarded copes about how he's actually masterfully written instead. You don't see Lloydfags writing essays about how hes actually secretly a deep character they just say "yeah but I don't care I like him anyway he's cool".
>>543334982"I'm bored of him so he has no personality since I'm not entertained enough". It tends to tell me that someone isn't putting much thought behind what they're saying and also easily disregards things.
>>543335157I say that for both though.>>543335186Not the guy who were arguing with buddy
>>543334621leaker anon said some news will come at 3pm tokyo time. Dont have high expectations though shareholder meeting is still when the actual game will be announced for first time
>>543334780doesn't matter, her body is still insanely sexy>>543334834>>543335021she's still sexy in cs. her thighs are mesmerizing there.
>>543335157Anon didn't say that he's masterfully written, just that he's not as flat of a meme character as he's often reduced to. But people use reductive thinking for everything so no surprise Rean falls victim.
>>543335262still applies to you
>>543335280Oh shit. >>543335316Yes. wish she was in nuC7
Where would you put Calvards Antagonists on this list?
>>543335404That's not fair tho>>543335450
>>543335529wait until arc is over we dont even know who the antagonist is lol.
>>543335084>his slow AF, but amazing character development.I like Rean a whole bunch too but let's be real here, the only reason his development is so slow is because they reset it constantly, the amount of times Rean needs to be told by his friends that he doesn't have to carry his burdens alone, and that he can lean on them instead of trying to do it all himself, is ludicrous, and what makes this more frustrating is that it takes till the very end of CS4 for him to understand it, despite this being repeated to him hundreds of times
>>543335529>reluctant villainsgramheart>villains who are a mystery and are insaneoathbreaker>villains who are just evil and lust for powergerard, auguste
Where is the Rean mod for Sky 1st?
>>543335643>>543335529Gerard is a cool pure evil villian with no motivation other than >fearat least high tier because he's well donethe rest of the calvardtards are shittier
>>543335529What category is Agnes in for breaking Albert's heart?
>>543335607Yea but didnt you think after everything that happens in cold steel 2 ending it makes sense for him to backslide? Cold steel 3 did have a repetition issue that I cannot defend. But by act 2 of cold steel 4 rean literally started relying on his allies to help contain his power if he went outta control. Cold steel 1 was about him feeling guilty over being a schwarzer. Cold steel 2-Reverie was him being guilty over the annexations,great twilight,great war soldiers lives lost. 5 games is slow I agree. But honestly Reverie handles Reans character development far better than Cold steel 4 did. If reverie was a 20 hour dlc after cold steel 4 im sure more people would be fine with that. plus rean is one of the characters in reverie not the only one so 4.3 games is more accurate
>>543335862Zamn vikings carry those.....
>>543334862>more assumptionsI really do try and level with you Reanspics, but you always have to make it unpleasant. I extended you the courtesy to not assume anything about you and would ask you do the same.Now, no, I did not go into Cold Steel thinking I would hate Rean and everything about it and didn't actually end up that way. I think that while the arc has its moments, it is underwhelming and bloated as fuck.As you said, these are long games. And the deeper I got in them the more I realized how Rean is a character that wears a mask and when people peer behind it, it leaves an impression on Rean. Sadly, I do find he is just hahaman headpatting people once he is comfortable with them, but that is a facade. If it wasn't, I don't think his main thing to get over is accepting he is worthy of love and happiness. At first he feels unworthy because of the ogre shit and how his joining the Schwarzers affects them socially. He feels like an outcast. Afterwards it has to do with how he is more or less a symbol of annexation and how he brings about the Great Twilight. Sure, he isn't cutting his veins all the time but I do think he contends with unhappiness a lot. To me, it was frustrating seeing him connect with others so effortlessly while using his facade, and yet still needing the same talk throughout 5 fucking games where someone tells him they care about him and wish he stopped with his martyr syndrome. I frankly do not get how you underplay this with how they beat you over the head with his similarities to Osborne.
I love all trails games except SKY 3 (the dungeon crawling aspect kevins story and the doors were cool), KURO 2, COLD STEEL 4 everything else is nice
we love dungeons here pal
>>543336064you did not try to level. The fact that you say reanspics means you do not try to level. Dont act like you can have a conversation you clearly dont want it. Its always the ones in bad faith who thinks they are not operating on bad faith. Rean goes through different obstacles and things from the first half of erebonia to the second. Its not the same things and the same lessons all the time. It does drag out but its not constant 5 game repetition as your making it out to be. And have you considered he only is able to connect to people because of his situation of being both noble and commoner. Thats how hes able to help some class 7 members get along by seeing things from both angles. He then helps his students by utilizing the stuff he learned from cold steel 1 and 2. So its not like those games didnt matter.
>>543336098the only trails games i outright hate and think have almost no redeeming qualities are cs3 and kuro 2however i do think the first half of sc, the finale of azure, cs2, cs4, chapter 3/5/finale of kuro 1 and kai are completely mediocre
>>543336454Im very surprised you like cs3 more than cs4. Cs3 felt like the cast bloat wasnt very intrusive and characters were getting their proper characterization and development. CS4 kind of made it so after act 1 barely any in story development occured.What about cs4 did you enjoy? not trying to say your viewpoint is wrong im just curious because you dislike cs3
>>543336583uh no its the opposite, i like cs4 more than cs3
>>543336609nta but me too
>>543336609typo I meant surpised you liked CS4 more than cs3. my other part of the sentence I didnt mistype sorry
>>543336064nta, but arent all trails mcs designed to just be good at talking to people and connect with them. Van is the way and him and Rean have similar situations regarding having a dangerious volatile power stuck in them that they cant control. feel like thats a falcom problem rather than a rean one
>>543336701cs3 is just dogshitidk where this meme comes from that nu c7 is better than old c7 because nu c7 outside of altina are all dogshit lazy retcon characters and cs3 is the most repetitive formulaic game that falcom ever made and instead of feeling like a real sequel to cs2 it just some dogshit lazy soft reboot. the game has literally 0 plot until the last dungeon. the new mechanics were all broken as fuck which is why they were nerfed into the ground in cs4.i have almost nothing positive to say about cs3, the game is just trash on every level. cs4 has some absolutely dogshit abysmal writing but at least it had a few good moments and it felt like the game actually went somewhere which is more than i can say about CS3.
>>543336425So you assuming shit about me ISN'T bad faith but me using a buzzword to describe you is?You're a hypocrite.All you said is a very surface-level analysis which I think is wrong; Rean isn't able to connect with people because he is a commoner-born noble. That'd be terrible writing. I mean the game itself contradicts what you said because Machias gets pissed at him for omitting the fact he is a noble with his coy words. I happen to think Alisa, who is a commoner but whose family has more money than many nobles have ever had, could have also served Rean's function in uniting Class VII. Same with Gaius or Elliot, who are mostly well-liked and relate well with everyone. Obviously Rean making connections is a big thing in the overall arc, but you need to replay these games again if you think learning to accept he deserves love and happiness isn't a constant, 5 game thing. I am not saying they are the same experiences in every game, although CS3 and 4 parallel 1 and 2 respectively a lot although the latter have higher stakes and more punched up moments, but they all feed into Rean connecting with people, and Rean assuming the bond is a one-way thing or not considering the other person's perspective in how they see him. I
>more people die in naruto than cold steel
>>543337306>*all of kisekiBelieve it
>>543337269Im not arguing about the 5 game thing. The whole thing was about how some people think all rean is is haha and headpat and dating sim and modesty. Im not saying his character is uber amazing. I just think that Cold steel 4 didnt do the best job with Rean so having a 5th game that actually focuses on his realization of how to be happy by going thru the stuff in the rean routes was better than how Cold steel 4 did it. Having 5 games sucks but Im glad the 5th game was good because if it was 4 it would have been less but unsatisfactory.
>>543337038yea I can understand how the soft reset kinda fucks up the momentum. I guess falcom wanted to make a new class with less cast members and wanted rean to showcase a role as a teacher. I guess it really depends on liking the characters. Im one of the few people who prefer CS1 and CS2 over CS3 and CS4. People that even liked kuro 2 liked it not for the plot but more so because they like the characters
Kuro 1 let's you kill those Almata guys, and a whole village gets nuked, so more people die in Calvard than in Coldsteel
>>543338264kai reversed all of those tho
>>543338264>and a whole village gets nuked,It's cute you think it's staying nuked
>>543337565>The whole thing was about how some people think all rean is is haha and headpat and dating sim and modesty.I know.And I still stand by what I said: he is that a lot. I'll refrain from using a number and will admit 90% is too high, but he is haha and headpat man MOST of the time. And as I explained, I think that is a facade. And again, I am not reducing him to that. I am merely pointing out he presents himself as that and that is what we see from him most of the time.>>543336794Oh, I don't have a problem with that. My problem with Rean, and Van too, is how they struggle to realize people can care about them as deeply as they care about others (mostly Rean) or that they can be so intrigued and charmed they want to connect in a deeper, perhaps romantic level but pushing them away because muh angst (mostly Van).
>>543333549>>543335084Rean's "trauma" is the biggest meme in the series.>A loving adopted family>Surrounded by women who love him unconditionally>Loyal male friends who respect his superiority and authority and never try to undercut him>Great talent and skill in many of his pursuits>His "depression" conveniently never manifests in ways that turn people off or make people abandon himThis type of writing is for sad, narcissistic millennials and zoomers who lead objectively decent lives but are too self-absorbed to appreciate what they have, and spend all their time complaining about how depressed they are on social media. They project themselves onto him. I actually don't mind Rean as a character when he's not being a speechfag, his "depression" does not bother me in and of itself, and I agree Rean does carry some trauma due to his past, but the degree of it - and more importantly, the tangible impact of it - is wildly exaggerated by the CS fanbase. I would also add that just from a material standpoint, it's really hard to take his depression and self-loathing seriously when he has so much going for him both intrinsically and externally (in terms of relationships and external validation etc.) I know that's not politically correct because everybody's problems are heckin valid in 2025 but yeah, sorry, I don't feel that bad for Rean, nobody should. His life isn't that difficult and he doesn't deserve that much sympathy.
^ bro is the king of trauma it seems lol
>>543338689reans "depression" really is just another thing that the writers used to jerk him off and show how "humble" he is but it has almost no real substance and makes him just look more like a spoiled crybaby than someone who actually had a shit life
>>543338264>kill those Almata guysThey're back. And 50% chance the town gets restored.
>>543338689I mean this just means you dont sympathize with his struggles and thats fine. If you dont like a character you dont like a character. Rean does go thru stuff you just dont think its that serious or sad compared to other characters and thats fine too. Like I said the start of this whole argument was because someone thought his entire character was headpat and hahas thats all. Its how it diverged to talking aobut him. All those points you make about what Rean has doesnt mean he should not be sad. You can have stuff and still be upset about other stuff. CS3 ending is literally proof of what he feared and I feel like you glossed over that. Plus even if rean has a loving family, his presence did cause teos family to be ostracized and even spread rumors that he was unfaithful to lucia because people thought rean was a bastard child. you can have friends and still feel guilty and have fear of the uncontrollable
>>543338264*Ahem*
>>543339129Oh yea. The threads lost it when this happened. A real kurospic lol.
>>543338264>dying>meaning anything at this point
SHUT THE FUCK UPSHUT THEF UCK UP8 MINUTES
>>543339217>loves tacos>hates vanhe's the reanspic self insert
>>543339257why
>>543339303Why would I hate an irrelevant character. >>543339257>>543339362Leaks.....some news at last.
"leaks" or leaks?
>>543339303Its funny how you think a sky or crossbell fan cant dislike calvard. only people that hates calvard is cold steel fans. Get off your high horse van kid people are allowed to dislike a game. Sorry that japan hates your self insert van
>>543339562it's that time of the month, sis
>>543339603you really think you being subtle don't you reanspic kek
>>543339625I'm not a woman THOUGH
>>543339640vankids are truly delusional.
XanaduGODS the time is nigh....WE shall prevail
>>543339751sky and crossbell fans don't have melties over being called spics but it's cute that you tried
>>543339115You're a midwit. You always try and argue with people without saying anything salient. No one said his entire character is going haha and headpatting people, just that he does that almost all the time.You seem to confuse why people dislike Rean; you act like people are genuinely idiots that are unaware he has a character, instead of accepting people saw what his arc was and were unimpressed.
>>543339801sky fans literally have melties about cold steel and how it ruined the franchise 24/7. You are so retarded vankid its amazing what jealously and saltiness does when your arc doesnt do as well as you wanted it too. What a hypocrite
>>543339876sounds like i hit a nerve lmao
where's the new art.
>>543339910its okay keep getting bitter about your shit sales and people praising an arc that makes you seethe 24/7
>>543339984only one bitter is you for being called out as an obvious shitposting spic lol
interesting how sky, crossbell, and kuro fans all generally get along even if they don't always like each others' arcs. but then you have certain other fans who always have a massive chip on their shoulder, constantly defensive and picking fights with everybody else and shitting on every other arc. very strange. i wonder what causes this phenomenon.
I was promised news. It's 4 minutes past the time.
amazing how vankids and skytroons get angry at someone when they bring up points from the games itself. Skytroons salty that cold steel was the boogeyman that changed falcoms direction and vankids having a whiny session over calvard not being praised more than cold steel because they like that van talks like a zoomer
>>543340021You weren't here when Kurofags shat all over the remake. The reason the vankid thing exists is because of the newer vanfags being hostile 24/7.
>>543340021sky and crossbell fans hate the pacing and the way aso and kevins retcon happens too dont be a disingenuous vankid plenty of people dont like the two arcs
>>543340021Reanspics are just eternally assblasted that they were bullied by Sky and Crossbell fans for so many years that now they think they can earn a place in the "oldfag club" by sperging about Calvard 24/7.
>>543340041the leak was fake and it was KONDO who spread it.....he got us again.....
I swear vankids only appear at this time to bitch about something
notice how vankid has no rebuttle to this statement >>543340181
i miss ys x posting.
even their responses are shitreanspic was organically created after people noticed how many brown people online were praising rean as their le goat and calling cold steel peak fiction and laughed about itmeanwhile vankid was only created out of pure reanspic seethe
>>543340412It was made because the newer vanfags just wanted CS, but in Kuro. The older vanfags left ages ago.
>>543340412>Latinos like the most shonenshitty arcShocking.
I don't see the problem in making of vanfags.
General complains about how cold steel is the worst arc. Continues to play 5 games of it without dropping it from the start. Sunk cost and sadness everybody. Its "cool" to shit on the most popular thing because they have no media literacy and didnt get the point of it
>>543340625fun*aieeee
I like how vankids only rebuttle about cold steel is talking about mexicans. Then again what can I expect from people who dont know how to read past a third grade level.
>>543340718I think the general consensus here is CS arc is bad but has enjoyable moments, Calvard arc is worse.
>>543340708damm even poorfags played those...bros why won't anyone care about calvard....it's not fair....
are vankids a bunch of europeans then?
>>543340718I think Calvard is worse than Cold Steel but that I'm not gonna pretend like Cold Steel was good just because retards in this general have nostalgia for it now.
>>543340980>>543340828but let me ask you then if cold steel was as "horrid" as many believe. Why? why then continue playing the series. You realize that falcom will keep using the same writing tropes. Chapter 3 of kuro 1, Almost all of kuro 2. Kai bringing back Rean and class 7. What is keeping you playing this "shit" if its soooooo bad. Honestly answer this then I will shut up for the rest of my life about this
>>543341102The cute girls.
>>543341151based as fuck!
>>543341193I am an honest man of simple pleasures.
>>543341102Because I was naive enough to think that Falcom would learn from Cold Steels mistakes with Calvard but they only ended up repeating basically all of them aswell as making a few new ones on top of it. Once this arc is completely finished I'm not touching another Kiseki until the entire series is finished and even then I'm done buying them. You seem to be under the impression that Trails is the only thing anyone can play. I freely admit that Calvard ended up worse than Cold Steel but I'm not gonna pretend like Cold Steel wasn't complete mediocrity just because you have nostalgia for it.
>>543340718>y-you didn't get it!Actually, seems they got it at a deeper level than you ever did lol
>>543341102your not going to get an answer, most people here only consume from speedrun streams their opinions mean jack shit. You have to actually have to play the game to know about whether its good or not
>>543341102Speaking for myself as a fan of the earlier games, I dropped the series after Reverie. I moderately enjoyed CS1-2 too despite the major issues I had with their writing, but CS3/4/Reverie totally soured my opinion on the series' future. But I had invested so much into the series at that point that it didn't make sense to quit after CS3, then I almost did after CS4, still gave Reverie a shot, and finally noped out.
>>543341256
>>543341431I said cute girls, not cumdolls.
>>543341478same thing!
>>543341306>>543341381fair enough. Ill shut up then. Vankids can go ahead and circlejerk calvard and van in peace and be in denial about japan giving it mixed reception. just dont get why your in a general talking about the games you hate. Its not like people talk about sky that much and crossbell is a mute subject. Its mostly cold steel talk so I dont get why you would want to engage in that or be in a general that contains that. But ill shut up then you gave fair answers
>>543341559How am I circlejerking Calvard when I literally said it was worse than Cold Steel? Jesus you Reanfags are so retarded.
>>543341548Not a cute wife.
>>543341102Don't shut up. Just kill yourself. Or don't come back. Either of the latter two work
Erm where are the leaks
>>543341559>dont get why your in a general talking about the games you hateAgain, can't speak for anyone else, but as for me, you may have heard that one of those earlier games got a remake recently...thought there would be more discussion on it but I guess not.
>>543341651>>543341612dam vankids are unstable as hell. To think sales would get them to be like this.
nadia rizz
>>543341698As expected of a Reanfag you can't even answer a simple question and you'd rather circlejerk about your victim complex. Moron.
>>543340021This literally never was the case but Skytroons can't help but falseflag and be disingenuousAlso conveniently ignores that Skytroons kept trashing Calvard arc and will do the same when Sky 2nd will be announced
>>543341643Nuh uh>>543341695i also thought we'd talk about that more
>>543341695tbf its a game with the same story as original fc. Plus sc is where most of the payoff comes in. I imagine sky 3 remake will have even more discussion due to topics related to censorship or dialed downness of kevin and so on or gameplay related to how they would improve the dungeon crawling aspect.
The censorship thing killed hype for it here. I think.
>>543341651vankid......... still sad that kai 2 wont release over sky 2. wittle vankid cwying and throwing a melty. waaah my arc is getting trashed more than cold steel in japan waaaah
>reanspic vankid skytroon reanspic vankid skytroon reanspic vankid skytroonShut the fuck up and observe Noel's immaculate derriere instead
the reason calvard doesn't get shit on as much is because you don't have retards constantly trying to defend it and pretend like its good unlike cold shit this is what reanspics don't understand
>>543342003what's she eating to get all caked up like that
Kiseki combat is pretty fun ain't it
>>543342001You're still sad and suicidal you can't suck Van's cock all day lmao
>>543342078Skytroon narratives are wild
>>543341919did it? thats unfortunate. But I guess there was talks about it at least. For sure conversation will happen more once kai 2 has its payoff because calvard got like 3 set up games so it makes sense theres not that much talk about lore and endgame stuff
>>543342097It was until CS1.
>>543341852I wonder if Sky 3rd will even get remade, wouldn't be shocked if they skipped ahead to Crossbell. The thing about 3rd is that most of the game is about setting up future games, but all of those future games have been released already so like...it takes a lot of the value of the game away. Not that I wouldn't like to see it remade, though I agree it will probably be censored.
>>543342120if you werent a 0iq spic you'd realize that the reason so much of the criticism happens is because you overreact every single time to any minor complaint which only fuels more complaints just to piss you offwhen people complain about calvard most of the responses are just like "yeah pretty much they should have done that better" but cspics try to write entire essays about how cold shit is actually le good and you just didn't le get it or read the dialogue mkay???? which only fuels it further because thats obviously just desperate coping
>>543342078it's cause no one played it
>>543342210I say sky 3 because it is necessary if falcom intends to remake crossbell. if they dont then of course they can stop at sky 2 remake. But idk you get rennes information and backstory and the continuation of her and estelles interaction it feels like a waste not to remake it even if they didnt do crossbell
just end the damm series already
>>543342210falcom themselves were uncomfortable with a lot of things they released like the star door 15 and also the torture scene in a ys game forgot which one. Falcom is the type to roll back their sleeves. Its a different time now we only got that scene because of xseed
Don't care about your HRT induced melty, 41% yourself already retarded Skytroon
>>543342097let me make giga busted builds again kondom.....
>>543342413Yeah I suppose that's true. If the goal is to have newer players go through the remakes then a remake for 3rd is necessary.
According to Kondo (haha) anything beyond Sky isn't guaranteed. So if you want more spend letters or something to Falcoom.
>>543342725Remakes will be their new inbetween filler releases and they'll go as long as people keep buying them
>>543342845You mean, so long as China keeps buying them....
Reanspics lost BIGLY today and had a nuclear melty lmao
>>543342725didnt kondo lie about not sky 2 remake depending on sky remake sales?
>>543343404I don't remember
>>543343085good job vankid. hopefully people start buying your games since rean fans lost lmao
I'd like some new spinoffs too
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEWS!!!!!!!
>>543343617I know.....did someone lie to me.....
>>543343764Alisa please dont cry!!!!!! its okay your romance option was the most picked in the steam trophies for cold steel 4
>>543343503>reanspics aren't men of their word >>543341559unsurprising given how pathetic vankidfag is
>>543343867I know, but.....I need news.....I can't go on....
>>543343868oh god are you that vankid who kept sperging about how calvard is beloved in the west LMAO. You really sound like that troon. How many melties will you gain before you crack down
>>543343951nta, but falcom pretty much forgot about you after cold steel 2. Altina is the main heroine for the cold steel franchise and reans armcandy for kai. Whats worse for you.......... THERES NO NEWS!!!!!!
>>543344053(((THEY))) did this.....I can't believe it....
>>543343961Why aren't you shutting up?
>>543344150yep its you
>>543341612I wasnt talking about you. I was talking about the other vankids that cant take criticism of their favorite arc
>>543344335Why aren't you shutting up? Are you not a man of your word, Vankidfag?You can call me whatever boogeyman you want, that won't make you any less of a hypocrite that should kill himself for being such a faggot over Van.
>>543343764alisa is such a weird character to me. Because if falcom went more with her character, fans would be pissed falcom is giving her more "relevance for romance" over the other harem girls. But she is kinda important due to her father being one of the head people running the plan of the antagonists so it makes sense to have more screentime but falcom only relegated her to her sharon segment in the gargantua
Who
>>543344607Make em all matter the same amount!
>>543344607She had her moments with Franz in IV and Reverie. The Sharon shit was dumb and further proof her mom is the biggest, dumbest cunt in the series.
>Main bad guy is a girlWhat did Kondo mean by this
>>543344934reverie was good that daydream was nice. I get that they were trying to make irina seem sentimental like she wanted to confirm with her own eyes that franz is dead but idk something feels off about the execution. She clearly does care about sharon. Irina is one of those bitch like characters that hide their emotions and has tough love i guess. Irina is better in CS1
>>543345087Irina was a dumb cunt day 1 and stayed a dumb cunt. Bitch helped Ouroboros and developed weapons of war and did other vile shit that pushed her father away and for what? To in the end say "hmm no, this Black Alberich fellow is not my Franz. Sharon, brew me some tea."Fuck Irina. Dumb bitch.
>>543345527its probably some trope in like light novels or something. Im sure there are other female antagonists that are "cold business women types". I guess im not familiar with that. Then again if you think about every antagonist besides alberich wanted to help save the world from ishmelga. The execution of irina is weird though
Ragecuck asshole status?
>>543345665Estelle-chan, play a tune for the lads
>>543345640Boss bitches like her work in anime or LNs because they're usually Aurelia-like when it comes to sexuality: open, very intense and direct, indirectly flirt with the MC, don't mind being seen naked, etc.Irina was just a dumb bitch lmao
>>543345726https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=795wwfTTkAk&pp=0gcJCfwJAYcqIYzv
>>543346017ill take your word for it Im not that familiar with too many tropes besides your typical normie shonen ones. Its probably why Reans humility didnt bother me in the games then again I just assumed it was asian culture related. Regardless it was nice to see alisa stand up to her in cold steel 1 and told her she would run it her own way I liked it
ANIME GAMESANIME TROPESANIME SERIESANIME BOARD
Kai 2 when?
Posting for the most pathetic faggot ITT
>>543346243N-n-next monday 3pm japan time..
>>543346329You better be right or i will do things to your butt.
He's back to aiposting yawnat leas tpost the coom
vankid hours
No news...ai posting....wtf bros.....
>>543346653"value story over modern gameplay often gravitate towards crossbell or sky"
>>543346243Agnes is justified in sexually assaulting Van. I will not elaborate.
>>543346219>>543346329Lies again haha I can't believe it
Who's supposed to leak stuff anyway
Hansukichan, my beloved
That CUNT has FAILED.
In the Western fanbase, the Cold Steel arc is generally considered the least liked of the Trails series. While it is still beloved by many, it receives the most criticism compared to the earlier Sky and Crossbell arcs. The reasons for the divided reception are varied but frequently include criticisms of character development, story structure, and pacing. Common fan criticisms of the Cold Steel arcPacing issues: The storyline is criticized for being slow, especially with the segmented structure of school life and field studies in the early games. This format is repeated across multiple games, which some fans find repetitive.Harem elements: The development of a large ensemble cast, combined with the "bonding events," is seen by some as veering into wish-fulfillment and harem tropes. Critics argue this undermines deeper character development and the emotional stakes for the main protagonist, Rean Schwarzer.Narrative decisions: Some long-time fans dislike the series' increasing reliance on certain plot devices, such as the "evil curse" used to explain certain events. This is viewed as undercutting the political intrigue and human-driven conflicts that defined earlier games.Bloated cast: The Cold Steel arc features a massive playable cast that grows with each installment. This can lead to individual characters receiving less screen time and development, making it difficult for some players to connect with the entire group.Repetitive structure: The structure of revisiting areas and characters repeatedly throughout the four games felt overdone for some, especially when key story payoffs were delayed across multiple titles.Cold Steel II: This specific game is often singled out by fans as a low point for its meandering plot and lack of impactful narrative moments, in contrast to the strong buildup of its predecessor.
Stop dumping ai nigger. Josette save us
>>543349716Say aaaaaaaaah
It's hard to take him seriously after he cried about how we need to listen to his seven discords.
>>543349869WAIT DONT SHOOT
>>543349954Shocker Reanspic doesn’t respond well to fanbase not linking cold steel.
>>543350051Nobody cares about your discords lolWhy don't you cry to them instead of coming here?
6th DISCORDAI SPAM
>>543350118Reanspic=cries about other people believing cold steel is the worse written arc without giving any comeback. Doesn’t acknowledge that kai will do well in the west for its release because the connect events and story are more meaningful than cold shits harem and wish fulfillment for otakus
>>543350221Dude cold steel 4 is the only game where I agree that they took the harem too far but any other of the games had decent bonding events that were more subtle about romance. Your really exaggerating
I needed more actually
>>543350221Vankid... If Kai does well in the west it's because it has Rean and Kevin in it. If it does badly in the west it's because Van poisoned the well.
>sky 1st has 4.1k ratings on psn after 1 month>more than kuso 2 and 3 combined>soon more than kuso 1 and 2 combinedbanbros...
>>543350418Nta but I think your being too harsh on Van horizon does showcase the payoff Van does get from him being saved in Kuro 1. Such as him telling backstory to Elaine and his moments with Agnes throughout the game. Plus it’s a set up game for Agnes development and Van as well
>>543350418Thinks a Reanspic route with katana wanking and no substance is better than actual character writing. Retards like you are a plague to falcom. Kondo got rid of the harem not to appeal to coomers like you
>>543350418You just reminded me of the famitsu review. Shit was hilarious.
my rage gives me strength...my cuckoldry makes me less susceptible to emotional damage...I'm ready for you /fg/...show me your full potential...
>>543350469Estelle won. >>543350752Tch...I'll have to unleash my full power...!
>>543350529People don't want 3 games of set up without any pay off. Horizon is mostly the Garten and doing 4SPGs. Van's event with Elaine is even missable. Combine that with how the west will screech about the age gap with Van and Agnes, and Horizon won't have a good reputation in the west. Especially since Horizon is a pretty bad Kiseki game to begin with, /fg/ agreed on this until shounenniggers saw the fight at the end and thought that made up for the game being a waste of time.
>>543350752>23 of bullying VanThis is just too cruel
>>543350646>better than actual character writingVan running away from all responsibility for a third game in a row isn't actual character writing. It's just Falcom not knowing what to do with Van until the actual final Calvard game, and who knows when that's going to happen.
>>543350863Reans bonding events in cold steel arc are missable too. I’m just saying that Kai does have a purpose. To set up Agnes rejection and her choice and commitment to hamiltons cause to fight back against laegarn. Plus risette got a ton of development and the mysteries and lore reveals were nice to see and learning about the truth of the loops
>>543351032Nta again, Agnes making the sacrifice is the catalyst for Van to confront vagrants. Vans arc of course is continuing. Agnes is designed to be the key for vans arc
>>543351032This. That shit is not fun. It's lame. If you refuse to advance the story, at least do something cool or really ANYTHING before the ending.
>>543350863Even I cheered, then since something interesting was happening. But yea.
After horizon 2 ends it will still be better regarded than cold steel arc in the west because I know for a fact horizon 2 will be better than cold steel 4. So people will enjoy that arc more. Plenty of cold steel dislikers already love calvard and find van refreshing and full of character and personality who gives other characters a chance to shine. Half of class 7 are forgettable.
You're jumping the gun. You gotta make sure they'll like Kai first.
>>543351208Rean's bonding events were missable but none were as essential. Even Kondo questioned why Elaine's bonding event wasn't in the main story which shows just how much of a mess Calvard's development is. There's just not enough in Kai for it to be a full game. It's like CS3 except at least CS3 introduced a new cast of characters and had more new locations than a couple of districts of Heimdallr and one new city. And at least CS3 didn't have you spend time in the Reverie Corridor between every chapter. I don't even like CS3 btw. >>543351303It's too late at this point. Throughout all of Calvard, Van hasn't even really begun to attempt to fix his issues. He was saved in Kuro 1, but then he admits that he'll probably need saved again. Depending on how long Falcom wants to drag Calvard out, Van might even only join with Vagrants at the very end of Kai 2 as a cliffhanger.
We don't even know if Kai 2 is the end. No wonder people fucked off.
>>543352392just two more asset flips... please understand...
>>543352610You won't fool me, Kondo....not this time!!!
>>543352610We haven't seen Kondom's true power yet.
>>543352832KEK
>>543352832think of all the sharten farten floors they could create with this
That is a power men should not possess.....
>>5433252705. She is an immigration NGO girl!!!!!
Towa Soros Herschel
>>543335607Name me one time that that is said in CS2.
>>543339058>50%If you played Kevin's last chapter, there's 0% chance Creil isn't saved
>>543333454Wholesome boy's night out vs DEGENERATE child exploitation. Skysisters should be ashamed.
You now remember Elk.
>>543355268He's voiced by a big boobed lady.
>>543333547This retard pulled the smoke in his lungs. Haha... that's our Rean!
>>543355561he inhaled suddenly and choked because he heard someone claim that Calvard was a good arc
>>543355735No he saw how expensive motorcycles are now........THEY did this.....
>>543356061Erebonia needs to pay their teachers better
Man, vankid has been seething at Cold Steel a lot lately. Feels like we haven't had a thread without meltdown in weeks.What gives, is it because of the recent blogposter or were there any news relating to Kai 2 I've missed?
>>543356891Hmm, what's that? More money for the military? You GOT IT!!
>>543356920The blogposter said she wasn't excited for Calvard.
>>543357096Lmao
>>543357054>military that can't annex Crossbell or even northern Liberlkek
>>543357598He was causally gonna invade half the continent. Most kind German chancellor kek
>>543357598> can't annex CrossbellWhy do CS haters always say the stupidest shit
>>543357960Crossbell was allowed to be independent for like hundreds of years.
The MERCIFUL Empire GRANTED Crossbell RIGHTS and PRIVILEGES.
>>543358080All bark no bite, the Empire gives off such a current year Russia vibe.
>>543358052Nta but I thought it went back and forth until they let it be run jointly or whatever.
>>543358175Putin wishes he could plan and maneuver like Osborne.
>>543358358What do you mean? The messily gains Russia made in Ukraine (20% of their land) are probably 50x bigger than Crossbell. Putin would've probably thrown like 1 million soldiers in a meat grinder to permanently secure Crossbell and since the Republic is all about muh democracy, eventually they'd realize that the juice ain't worth the squeeze.
>>543358791Osborne was able to take 3 territories without much fuss. Putin only did that once, and it was just for Crimea.
>>543359040Oh yeah I forgot, he took that back in 2014 by covertly backing up a separatist movement and then when the Ukrainian government cracked down on Russian nationalists brutally (deserved), Putin had his excuse to invade Crimea in order to protect the Russians living there. That was some Osborne shit I guess.
Was North Ambria the Russia of Kiseki
>>543359524Yea, and back then, almost no one did anything to them besides use sanctions. Russia even got to host the 2018 World Cup. It's nuts how bad Putin fumbled.
>>543359542North Ambria will be Ukraine when the war is over. They've already lost like 25 million people. Not necessarily dead, most of them just became refugees and will most likely never return.
>>543359684Those poor bastards.....
>>543359779I don't know about that, becoming US citizens is way better than living in Eastern Europe.
>>543359826The Red Curse.....
Love Altina from Trails of Cold Steel, as well as male cocks in my mouth
>>543359952lol
With the lights out~It's less dangerous~Here we are now~Entertain us~A Calvardian~A Liberless~A Crossbellan~My libido~
>>543360554
>>543360554This got me thinking. Why the fuck do they speak the same language? It would've been cute if Olivier had a bit of an accent and the Enforcers were all over the place, with the exception of Joshua and Renne since they're rogue/sneaky types so they would've studied Liberlian to perfection.
>>543361000This. They should all speak their own languages. What's the official language of Liberl, though? Also, don't they use the same calendar names that we use? Makes no sense....
>>543361000Kevin has an accent... But they fucked it up haha..
>>543361242Liberlian? For most places it's the country's name, for Erebonia it would have to be something else since they were not always an empire.
>>543361498But they're based of Germany, so just give them that or some fanfic anime version of it.
Uggghhhhhhh she's so hot
>>543361709This game is CANON. I REFUSE to accept OTHERWISE.
>>543361306They really did>Becky speaks Kansai-ben? Let's give her a scottish accent !!! XD>Ah shit Kevin spoke Kansai-ben and now he's in Kai>And Rean specifically says he speaks in the same accent as Becky>Just fucking ignore itI expect them to fanfic that line to cover up their fumble.
>>543361836Even better, they'll assume no one remembers how Kevin used to talk and give him a Scottish accent.
>>543362000checkedi wish, that would've at least been consistent with beckybut they made him boring
>>543361836I think you can find the Nisa demo on youtube. I think the line is there.Also don't forget that Letty has a French accent in the localization.
>>543362000Checked. This guy is correct.
>>543361709mom?
>>543361836The problem with translating Kansai-ben in an English dub is that it usually just resulted in a bad Texan accent.
>>543362197They should have made the Oracionese speak with a french accent desu.
>>543362254For >>543362000
>>543362254We already heard the sample voice lines though and he doesn't have one
>>543362489Nisa will find a way....
>>543361836Rean said Tita and Agate have a slight accent in CS3.
>>543362707I guess referring to Liberlian. But it's a lot more egregious for Becky and Kevin
>>543362794I wonder what the accent is.....
>>543326017>>543331634>>543331913Baring bloomers for sports there really isnt any reason for girls to wear pants instead of a skirt it feels like.
>>543363593This. Girls should wear skirts over pants.
>>543329881That exaggerated titty shake is hilarious
Imagine the ending of Kiseki making a canon catcall to Nayuta. How fvarking ZASED is that?
>>543338264Agnes should be ashamed of dressing like that.
>>543338689You know that depression is typically an illness that exists independently of external life circumstances and is unrelated to them, right
>>543321691Should I play the first Trails in the Sky FC before I play the remake?
>>543365440No need, it's the same game with some extras.You're just going to be very disoriented when you play SC though.
>>543328468Royal booty needs slap correction to make her into a proper queen.
If Sky was the beginning of the Zemurian tale, Zero/Azure were the prologue to Erebonia, and Cold Steel was the thematic conclusion of the western Zemuria arc (Liberl, Crossbell and Erebonia), what purpose do Daybreak and Horizon serve? Do we know anything about the lands to the East yet and the direction the series is going to take after this arc is over?
I'll give the csfags that at leastthey told newfags to play Kiseki from the start instead of trying to pretend the newest game is an okay starting pointSky 1st has genuinely made me hate Skyfags
>they told newfags to play Kiseki from the start instead of trying to pretend the newest game is an okay starting pointnah, a vast majority tried to sell cs1 as a good starting point
wrong, feel free to post proof otherwise
7 discords
>>543367341Meant to quote >>543367089
[Uplifting News] In merely 55 days all the anglos will be forcefully removed from /fg/. This will result in a sharp 90% decline of Rean Derangement Syndrome posters and a 100% removal of Skytroons. Millions are rejoicing at this turn of events. Stay strong, everyone.
>>543365440Yes. You should play the original because it's better.
>>543368676Define better
>>543368846Something that is greater than the other.
>>543368846grid-based combat allows for better player skill expression
Sky and Crossbell are the old guard, the nobility, the ones who uphold standards and traditions, the Nietzschean masters of the seriesCold Steel are the unwashed masses, the slave-morality untermensch who cannot effectively argue the merits of their own series without resorting to trite truisms, and must drag their superiors down to their level to feel some semblance of actualizationKuro are the poors nobody cares about, they have no influence or value to society, so the uneducated and unrefined masses can freely punch down on them to feel superior
>>543368928LMAO
I need to put my dick between those asscheeks and unload inside Musse's swimsuit
>>543365440No, the remake is better than the original.
>>543368658What happens in 55 days?
>>543369948The UK bans 4chan
>>543325405That's Estelle's poop hole
>>543369980I thought you were memeing but holy kek it's real. Bongs btfo by their own gubmint
>>543369980I'll believe it when I see it. Nothing ever happens.
>>543367341It's an okay starting point since it's mostly self-contained and was designed as an entryway point.
>>543369019Not so fast. I called dibs first.
I'd say that it's the consensus here that the Sky arc is generally the best, followed by Cold Steel. Crossbell has its moments, but it drags on for too long with Zero being nothing but build-up to Azure's mediocre payoff. And we don't even need to talk about Gaybreak.
I've awoken to no news. Who is responsible for this.
>>543373875There were news? Where?
>>543374157At least two anons claimed we'd get news last night. I don't see anything....
My consensus (the only thing that matters to me) is that all 4 arcs are great in their own way and I fully enjoyed every single entry in the Trails series
>>543374704Whoa! Take your trolling out of here.
>>543375379Haha I'm crazy like that...
>>543374704Radical take. You damm so and so!!!!
why did stal drop zero?
Childhood is idolizing the brazen carefree above-the-law stance of the Bracers and ASOAdulthood is realizing the rigid and governmental SSS approach makes more sense
>>543373875Oh, there's news: A leaker has revealed that there will be a "strongly-suggested sexual encounter" between Van & Agnes near the climax of Kai 2, which will result in Agnes becoming impregnated, which will also set up some things for the next Kiseki arc.
>>543376975Agnes, get off the orbal net, you don't even exist anymore
>>543376975anies' fat lactating tits...
>>543376850Liberl's bracers are more governmental than the SSS with how close they are to the royal family lmao.The only really authoritative group is class VII and Rean under imperial order.
Are you guys sure the news anon isn't the same anon that keeps saying random shit every thread?
>>543377395All I can say is you should play the games
Would Lloyd and the rest of the SSS have agreed with Mayor Crois plan and ideals if he had taken the time to sit them down and go over the details instead of kidnapping KeA and capturing the SSS as traitors preemptively?I feel like his drastic approach is to blame for their friction. Had they known about the history of the Erebonian and Calvardian secret war and KeA's willingness to cooperate with their plan, maybe they'd have agreed to help out and keep the damage to a minimum.
>>543377784Anon, the SSS actually work against their own government in the games. You are a retard.
Are there any good Japanese guides for Ys versus Sky?
>>543378024The SSS are an official branch of the policeThe Bracers are a private institution founded in a foreign country Play the games, they are quite good
>>543378024The SSS fight against a criminal who attacked Crossbell whereas bracers aren't meant to interfere in the affairs of government officials.
>>543378024cold shitters like you are genuinely embarrassing lol so obvious you only played cold shit
>>543379174Vankid...
>>543378705>The SSS fight against a criminal who attacked Crossbell The SSS overthrew their democratically appointed government with aid from a foreign crime syndicate, foreign intelligence agents and the aforementioned bracer guild.>whereas bracers aren't meant to interfere in the affairs of government officialsYet they do it all the time under the guise of loopholes and infiltrate multiple military institutions during the events of Liberl's crisis.
>>543377315Mommy ...
Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>543379402I mean, I'm not a vankid but Gaybreak is my favorite arc.
>>543377395Play the video gameshttps://trailsinthedatabase.com/game-scripts?fname=t2130_1&game_id=2#124
>>543378245>>543378705Play the games?
>>543380208kek pedantfag BTFO
Agnes is my step daughter
>>543380957How's your relationship with your father?
>>543379678vankid btfo
Is arc wars going on again?
>>543383270just a coldshitter trying to argue the Bracers, a non-governmental organization, is more governmental than the SSS, an official department of the Crossbell police lol
>>543383857I see, I can’t really participate in that conversation because it been too long since I played crossbell arc. I plan to replay it after playing daybreak 2. I wanna see all the missable content I missed my first playthru of that arc
>>543383857You say coldshitter but there was a skytroon the other day who thought Rean cut an airship right in half then another anon posted a picture from the game of that not happening. So cold steel fags aren’t the only media illiterate people Skytroon
>>543383857The argument started over the wording of the SSS' "rigid and governmental approach", vankid, which is bullshit given that they're just doing whatever the Bracer guild does, except that even they never opposed the government directly. You would know this if you'd play the games.
Full power sacrifice Rean jobbed to his students btw
If the Kiseki arcs were anime:>Sky would be an all-time classic, gold standard for its genre like K-ON!>Crossbell would be a flawed classic like Haruhi>Cold Steel would be an unholy low-budget amalgam of Naruto, One Piece and Bleach>Calvard would be Maerchen Maedchen
>>543385714Dang Arcwars. Feels like estelletroons do it more than Rean and Van fags
>>543385262There's no argument hereThe Bracers are a non-governmental organization, as stated in Sky SC, Zero, Azure, Cold Steel, Cold Steel II, Cold Steel III and Cold Steel IV:https://trailsinthedatabase.com/game-scripts?p=1&q=non-governmentalMeanwhile the SSS are an official branch of the Crossbell Police Department and thus governmental in natureYou tried to be pedantic and got destroyed, yet again
Kondo here, we're replacing Kevin's route in Kai 2 with Lloyd's route. The main players for it will be Lloyd, Rixia, Gouran, Anelace, and KeA as a support character.
>if only you knew how cute things really areLast message of the starship Lloyd before all contact was lost
crossbell melties are boring can we go back to the sky and cs melties
>>543385996>The Bracers are a non-governmental organizationThat doesn't mean shit if they directly respond to the Queen and arrest members of the military and even royalty on her behest. Liberl's Bracers might as well be a royal special force.>Meanwhile the SSS are an official branch of the Crossbell Police Department and thus governmental in natureThat's how they were founded, not how they operate, vankid. Their 'approach' is anything but governmental, Lloyd even breaks out of prison to take down their democratic leader, and the SSS keep quiet about Rixia's occupation as an assassin against their duty as law enforcers. They even support a foreign mafia like Heiyue that's committing crime within their borders.
>>543387121Leiston Fortress.It has no strategic value whatsoever. What's more; due to Liberl not investing in seafaring technology whatsoever (despite being a donut-shaped country with a massive lake in the middle) it's safe to say Leiston Fortress actively endangers Liberl.You can't easily reach any major city from Leiston Fortress by conventional travel. So by having important personnel dispatched there and/or any military equipment, you are basically neutering said assets.How would Cid, stationed at Leiston Fortress, aid a sudden blitzkrieg from Erebonia on Bose? He can't. He would need to board an airship, which any competent foreign force would know to disable before an invasion. Leiston Fortress is a resource vacuum. It actively turns Liberl into the laughing stock of the continent.To sit there, as a Skytroon, and act like Leiston Fortress doesn't actively ruin the entire setting and thus the arc, is to deny reality. It is to present oneself as a mockery. To sidestep logic and reason. The mere fact that not a single Skyfag has ever come forward and denounced Leiston Fortress as a major and glaring plothole and a stain in the entire arc, shows their level of dishonesty.To argue with a Skyfag without their pre-emptive acceptance that Leiston Fortress should not exist is to waste one's time with the likes of barely-sentient baboons.
>>543388238>Lloyd even breaks out of prison to take down their democratic leader,Their democratic leader was revealed to be unlawful.
>>543388527That suddenly makes it fine to break the law? He was still voted into his position. If the SSS was a "rigid, governmental organization" as stated previously they'd respect and carry out their orders regardless.
>>543388668The SSS is the police, and it's the police's job to take care of the criminals. Therefore the SSS were just doing their job.
Lloyd chose cunny I mean friend over his homeland....sovl.....cunny over duty....kino....
>>543388328It's okay when Sky does it.
>>543388238>>543388668Punctual events do not change the official definition of the organizationsThe Bracers are a non-governmental organization, a private one founded by a foreign countryThe SSS are an official branch of the Crossbell Police Department and thus directly governmentalNo amount of events can change this. You are trying to argue with ghosts about topics and points no one ever madeAnd I'd wager you are the same person trying to argue Ixs and Jolda do not have royal lineage because the throne no longer existsPedantry is your undoing, and the reason mockery dogs your every step
>>543388960>And I'd wager you are the same person trying to argue Ixs and Jolda do not have royal lineage because the throne no longer exists Nta but that was me so you're wrong. Also, I said they're not royals anymore because of the monarchy being abolished. Their blood has no effect on it. They aren't royals.
>>543389182Grim to see there's 2 pedants here then
>>543389372You lost Ronaldo
>>543388328Skybros...we've been exposed...owari da...
>>543388960Stop trying to move the goalposts already. The argument never was about the definition of their organizations, it was about their approach. The SSS is just as much 'carefree and above-the-law' as the ASO or the bracer guild. They went against official orders on numerous occasions to pursue their goals, and decided to withhold critical information regarding Heiyue, Wald or Rixia in other situations. The Bracer Guild on the other hand strictly adheres to the royal rule of Liberl and accepts the queen's orders as law, even if they're directed against other members of the state who'd usually have immunity from bracer jurisdiction.You're really just trying to cling to the official description of their jobs while ignoring that the original anon never talked about those.
Say hi to your new protagonist for the final arc. Say something nice about her!
>>543389858Erm, who is THAT?
The SSS are treasonous.
>>543389712The official orders were unlawful, therefore they needed to not follow them.
>urgent things happening in real time with set dates>able to just spend a night at a hotel to heal upso this is the immersive worldbuilding I've been hearing about...
>>543389912Lloyd and Rixia's daughter.
>The SSS are treasonous.
>BRO THE SSS ARE SUPER GOVERNMENTAL AND AUTORITATIVE IN THEIR APPROACH>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE CAN'T INVESTIGATE THE SCHWARZE AUCTION?? AIIEEE LET'S INFILTRATE OUR POLITICIAN'S PRIVATE RESIDENCE ON A WHIM WITH CARDS WE ACQUIRED ON THE BLACK MARKET
>>543389712You're not gonna tell me what my original post was about lol keep your arrogance in checkThe Bracers are non-governmentalThe SSS are governmentalYou will never change that fact
>>543390259>no testimony or evidence can hold in a court of lawkek
>>543390259The SSS recognised that they were being held back from the auction as a cover up and therefore their orders were unlawful and anti-government.
>>543390390You clearly misunderstand what the word "approach" means in that case. That's fine, I should've known that I'm arguing with an esl.
>>543390259Funnily enough this post does the opposite of what you intendedIt is precisely because the SSS is beholden to governmental practices that the Schwarze Auction infiltration was such a big deal to themFor the Bracers it would've been another Thursday night
>>543369980The only good thing to come out of that shithole
>>543390540Next you're telling me that the Antifa are a governmental organization because their roots go back to a group that was founded by the democratic party, and their actions are carried out under the belief that the current administration is unlawful.
>>543390830Nta but antifags have roots in communism
>>543390575Hey if that makes you feel better go right aheadAt the end of the day this post >>543377395 belongs to youA post suggesting that a non-governmental organization is more governmental than an official branch of the Crossbell Police Department
>>543390707nta but isn't it established that the Schwarze Auction is literally untouchable to Bracers due to clauses allowing them to operate in given nations but they couldn't interfere with government affairs, unless someone was stupid enough to pick a fight with both Calvard's and Erebonia's elite?
>>543390707Their approach isn't governmental if all they do is jump through loopholes in order to bypass their governmental regulations.
>>543390830>>543391019Antifa was a CIA backed movement in WW2 Germany, it was meant to destabilize fascism and they acted like terror cells after Hitler took power. It didn't work in Germany because they were eventually stomped out like cockroaches but they had a lot more success in Italy. No, there was nothing organic about Antifa back in the day and there's nothing organic about it today. Pallets of bricks don't spawn out of the aether, they need to be transported with trucks by construction companies. In other words you need a sponsor.
>>543388328Leiston Fortress should've been positioned in Rolent or Zeiss close to the border to Calvard. If you look at the map, the entire eastern flank of Liberl is unprotected to an aerial raid.
>>543391360Except the governmental approach is all about finding loopholes.
>>543391360>bypass their governmental regulations.Thank for admitting they are a governmental organization haha...
>>543391724>receive clear orders and regulations by your government>look for any loopholes and ways to bypass your orders and just do whatever the fuck you wantWow, how rigid and governmental!
>>543391924That's the western way. If you don't like it, go back to the third world.
skytroons really can't handle any criticism whatsoever wow even trying to argue Bracers are more legit than the SSS loool
>>543391652So when can we shoot them in the face now that they're designated as a domestic terrorist organization?
>>543391336yeah but Estelle would just find a loophole anyway like Bracers always do since that's the Bracers MO
I sentence Tiocute to 10 hours of armpit licking for being a treasonous little minx.
>>543392372Nta but Trump actually designated them as a terrorist group. I have no idea if it stuck.>>543392516I feel like no nation would allow them inside their borders if everyone knows they'll immediately start looking for loopholes.
>>543388328>He would need to board an airship, which any competent foreign force would know to disable before an invasionLol, lmao, yeah, sure.Hiding utter stupidity by a barrage of words seems to be cold kiddies special.
>>543393462says the skytroon who misunderstood everything that happens in cold steel 4. Your fanbase is the definition of media illiterate
Richard...
I can't take any Skyfag seriously after Leiston Fortress.
Do cops in Crossbell arrest you for walking
>>543392352skytroons only argument about their arc is spamming "BESTELLE" "BESTELLE"
>>543393703The future belongs to Kloe, not YOU>>543393781Erm we love bestelle pal
>>543393602
>>543393602>y-you don't get itRemember reanspics argument tactics>delusion they make up and believe>you didn't play it/don't get it>muh sales
>>543392865Rean...
>>543393726Only if the SSS feels like it and abuses another loophole.
>>543394168Like the American cops.....this is so cruel....
>>543388328K-Kondo didn't know much about military matters back then, it took him a few games to learn.
We're due for a new Ys game, i think.
I miss him so much...
Can Tio arrest me for sniffing her butt?
>>543393462The Orbal Shutdown Phenomenon destroyed Liberl in one afternoon.Erebonia was going to roll the entire country with STEAM tanks!!! That's how shit Liberl was without airships. Erebonian men would've taken Maybelle down from Bose to the Valleria Lakeshore and raped her one by one as all the Liberlian """men""" stationed at Leiston Fortress would do nothing but watch through their binoculars.Because Liberl does not have seafaring technology. Cid would sit at Leiston Fortress like a KEKOLD and masturbate as another Erebonian man viciously enters Maybelle's ravaged pussy.That is your military. That is the strategic value Leiston Fortress brings to Liberl.Your arc is a JOKE.
>>543394710>>543392865Tio is NOT hot! She has dumb tumblr blue hair and piss eyes.
>>543394682The father.....no more mansions....>>543394710That's legal haha....
Cumming inside Tio's leggings, staining them thoroughly, and forcing her to not just watch but put them on and walk around in them for the rest if the day.
>>543394947Now wait, just a diddly darn second their pal. We LOVE Tio-chan here. We love lolis with big butts. Take a hike!!!!
>>543394796I'm sorry... I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I'M SORRY!!!I can't defend how shit Leiston Fortress is PLEASE FORGIVE SKY.
>>543395219fast as fuck
Using Tio armpits as onaholes and cumming on them so her pitsmell is overwhelmed with the scent of cum.
>>543395219She's barely a loli in Zero, she's mostly a malnourished 14-15 years old. KeA is prime cunny.
>>543395156>>543395439
>>543393992you probably still think that osborne was controlled by the curse
Estelle is crying....what do we do.....I can't handle it when girls cry!!!
kekskybabs fucking OBLITERATED
>>543394947tio sex
>>543395219We at /fg/ hate lolis and prefer mature women like Sonya.
>>543394436>>543395358Haha... Next time, don't mess with CrossGODs...
>>543395463Sept Terrion of Cunny!>>543395567Not so fast, hag>>543395613Aieeee, please spare us Lloyd-dono!!!!
are sky fans jealous that cold steel is popular. Is that where all the hate comes from? Legit question because it seems a day cant go by without them making cold steel fans a boogeyman. They cant talk about their arc without mentioning "coldsteelpics" or whatever the fuck word they use I dont know. anyone in this general can answer
Cunny?https://files.catbox.moe/wwl6k5.jpg
KeA showing up with Lloyd in Kai 2 but she has Agnes tier tits...
>>543395878Holy D R O P P E D
>>543395613>hmm, oh yeah, fighting Crossbell Defense Officers with my two good friends: the foreign assassin Yin from the Calvard-based crime syndicate Heiyue, and Wazy Hemisphere, a young gang leader who's secretly a member of the foreign secret church assassination squad that infiltrated Crossbell. how governmental of me.
Spraying hot loads of spunk into Tio's hair and on her headband until both reek of semen.
>>543395878Part of the fantasy, if you're not a faggot, is watching your wife grow into an old woman and taking care of her even when she's 19 years old.
>>543395613Lloyd's so cool...
>Agnes is an EpsteinHoly shit it's over
>>543395843KKKEEEEAAAAAAAAA NNNOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>543396150He WILL save Kai 2 and destroy the faggotbox
>>543396078I don't mind watching cunny grow up/spoiler]
Forcing KeA and Tio to drink Calvardian Hormone Growth Formula infused water until both of them have tits comparable to Agnes and Rixia respectively!!
>>543396230She's one of (((THEM)))??!?!?! Wtf bros......
>>543395709No male anon here likes lolis. Perhaps the lesbians of /fg/ love lolis, but the men love grown women.
>>543395770It's just that one mentally ill "bestelle"fag and a vankid who larps as a skyboomer but only cares about Calvard.
>>543396336Based. That's why I think Mondblut is a whiny baby.
>>543395502>made up delusion2/3 reanspickekwill you now mention sales?
>>543396429The only one of those we had was a Laurafag from /m/...
>>543388328>You can't easily reach any major city from Leiston Fortress by conventional travel.A road isn't conventional travel????!??!?!
>>543395770its sunk cost. The sky fans want to drop the series because its not up to the level of sky or crossbell but for some reason something is compelling them to keep playing despite being miserable 24/7 about the 2 recent arcs. Thats just how sunk cost works. Its like watching a sitcom that has terrible last few seasons. You might as well finish it because theres a sense of attachment and wanting to pay off that investment. Plus theres also hope that calvard is a better arc. Many people who didnt like rean do like van
>>543396312TTTSSSSUUUUHUUUUUUUUUUUU>>543396429We love yummy lolis here, pal
Loli Laura love
>>543396230What a coincidence, haha. WAIT LOOK PANTSU
Do the femanons like lolis
>>543395501Cumming on Tio back and watching it trickle down to her buttcrack as she schlicks furiously.
>>543396609So you're a lesbian?
>>543396826Reanafemanon likes some of them I think... the fujo self-inserts as Renne getting raped by Weissmann and commissioned art of that... don't know about the rest
>>543397065I love girls. However, I'm not a woman!
>>543396592calvard arc connect events are at least better than cold steels. Even in kai they added some voice acting and even Van, rean, and kevin voice acts some end bits with certain people
>>543388328>>543394436You can say the same about Juno Naval Fortress. What enemies do they expect to face from the sea, you literally can't physically travel west from Erebonia.
>>543396592>implying Crossbell is goodlmao
>>543396564A road is conventional travel, yes. That is not what my sentence is saying.It's saying you can't EASILY reach any city, by using conventional travel.For example: From Leiston Fortress to the closest city, Zeiss, you'd need to travel around 350km on foot.You can't have a realistic and snappy military reaction with that kind of distance. And that's just the closest city.Anyone stationed at Leiston Fortress is, at a minimum, 350km away from being useful. A week after the deployment notice arrives.
>>543397173I see
>>543396078>>543396336FINALLY people who gets it! There may still have hope for /fg/ after all.
Blasting rope onto Tio tummy and making KeA clean it off of her!!!
>>543397186If you like lolis, you are a lesbian. A straight man does not like lolis.
>>543397486Your math needs serious work!
Roads...
>>543397423
>>543397486Post proof that lesbian = cunnystacy
>>543395843damn that's hot. this would've been perfect without elie though
>>543397365>From Leiston Fortress to the closest city, Zeiss, you'd need to travel around 350km on foot.Uh you can literally run from Zeiss to Leiston Fortress in a matter of minutes.
>>543397265They literally talk about pirate attacks in CS3.
>>543397586Straight men love big breasts and big asses. If you desire a girl without any of these features you are not a straight man. But you are not a gay man as a gay men lust for baras. You can't be a straight woman as straight women lust for twinks and shotas. Therefore you must be a lesbian if you like lolis.
>>543388328wrong ever since you said "not investing in seafaring technology"Try again.
>>543397794Uh... Fanfic anon schlicks to this...?
>>543397794>>543397940 + many of the bisluts and lesbians in Kiseki lust for lolis. Such Angelica's Fabulous Fifteens. Or Ilya grooming Sully.
Cumming inside KeA's butt and forcing Tio to lick her asshole clean
>>543397940But I love big butts and big butts TOO
>>543396592>its not up to the level of sky or crossbell
>>543398038If I was wrong you'd have posted proof. I take this passive stance as a concession that you cannot provide proof. Good luck next time!
>>543388328>>543396564>>543397813Oh no no no CS bros we're getting BTFO by the Skychads.
>>543398145If you love big butts and big breasts then you are a straight man.
>>543398273>post lacks any proof whatsoever>"Um where's your proof chud"kekRuan as a region. There you go. Try again.
>>543398353But I like lolis, TOO
>>543397813That's non-canon gameplay. Estelle and Joshua spend over three days walking over to Leiston. Think about that the next time you fast travel over to listen to a couple of NPCs.
>>543398273What is the purpose of the drawbridge in Ruan?
>>543398485You don't like lolis then. Or you're a lesbian. Choose a lane are you a straight man or a lesbian? You can only pick one.
>>543395501imagine how sweaty her seat is under her anus
>>543398580>Estelle and Joshua spend over three days walking over to Leiston.If this was true you'd have posted proof. I take this passive stance as a concession that you cannot provide proof.Good luck next time!
>random guardpost check-points between regionsWhat is the point of that station in the mountain range between Bose and Ruan?Literally nothing ever happens there.
>>543398472>>543398643A drawbridge isn't seafaring technologyAre you suggesting Cid will boldly charge into Bose's defense on a dinghy?
>>543398769That's not how it's supposed to work!!
>>543398881You didn't answer the question.What is the purpose of the drawbridge?
>>543398784Imagine cumming on her chair while she watches and then telling her to sit down on it anyway
>>543398879The USSR had internal passes, too. It's a terrible system.
>Bellguard Gate and Tangram Gate defend Crossbell State from the East and West>Mainz Mountain Range serves as a barrier towards the North>to the South of Crossbell are giant, empty, unsupervised wetlands with no guardpost whatsoeverUhhh ............. what if they're invaded from the South?
>>543398580>That's non-canon gameplay.This argument would be understandable had the remake not been made, as FC and SC loaded separate screens between the two points, so it could be argued that a lot of territory was missing between those screens.However, the remake loads the entire path from Zeiss to Leiston Fortress at once and you can travel on foot, from one to the other, seamlessly, in a matter of minutes.Thus, Zeiss is canonically and factually not hundreds of kilometers from Leiston Fortress.
>>543398994ARE YOU A LESBIAN OR ARE YOU A STRAIGHT MAN? ANSWER THE QUESTION!
>>543399212If you zoom out, the wetlands are themselves surrounded by more mountains.
NA-CHAN SCHLICKS TO GENDERBENT SWIN TENTACLE RAPE DOUJINS!!!
>>543398881I'm not talking about just the drawbridge. Play the games. We are done here.
>>543399212Invading through a swamp is not exactly easy.
>>543399263SHUT UP I LIKE ALL THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
today's melties are a 4/10 i really think you guys can do better than arguing over leiston fortress and the definition of heterosexuality
>>543399037>>543399421I don't recall if the rivers have a name in Liberl so I'll just call it the Valleria Lake river. The bridge allows small boats with tall sails to cross it.Unless you're suggesting Liberl has full-fledged military ships that somehow fit the size of Ruan's canals. And they just happen to never be shown in-game.Behold, Liberl's Navy!
Let's have melties over fanfic anon leaving usRobot perverts don't deserve her
>>543399414UUUUUUUUOOOOOOHHHHHHHH
>>543399495would you prefer watching reanjeets and vantroons fight for the 1000th time again?
>>543399649OK, anon.So, look up a map of Liberl.What is on the other side of the drawbridge from the river?
>>543399256>However, the remake loads the entire path from Zeiss to Leiston Fortress at once and you can travel on foot, from one to the other, seamlessly, in a matter of minutesThat's not how it works, bucko. There'll always be limitations and inconsistencies between game design and intended narrative. If you look at official artwork of Grancel, you'll se a huge City that stretches across the horizon, but you can technically explore the whole place in a matter of minutes on foot as well. Rolent is a major town of its region but consists of only 15 or so houses in-game. Cold Steel makes this even more apparent by mentioning towns and villages off the path that simply don't exist on the playable map.
>>543326017Kloe def got the biggest facelift
>>543399784Kloe def needs to give me the biggest facesit
>>543399649Haha this childish display is your true nature. You really thought you were cooking, as the kids say, with that Lesiton Fortress shit, huh?
>>543399665The girls are gone anon...let go...
>>543399756Provide proof that it took three days for Estelle and Joshua to walk from Zeiss to Leiston Fortress.I will interpret a failure to provide said proof as a concession that you are wrong.
>>543399649kek, btfo that vankid
>>543364365jelly boobs. I hate them personally
>>543398821>If this was true you'd have posted proof.https://calculat.io/en/length/how-long-does-it-take-to-walk-km/350>2 days and 20 hours to walk 350km>Add in rest breaks and it takes 4 or 5 daysEstelle and Joshua's feet must be killing them to just talk to like one NPC.>>543399256Even without loading screens, the overworld of Liberl is not canon. Grancel is the size of a tiny village in 1st while Ys versus Trails in the Sky shows it as being very big and not true to First's scale. As it was re-released after First, this means it is still canon.
>>543399745>>543399894So are you going to show these mythical Liberlian military ships or are you going to keep pretending they exist but are never mentioned nor featured?
>>543399784Julia got the biggest facelift, actually.Went from being a butch bulldyke to cute.But yes, Kloe got a big facelift too.
>>543399916>Provide proofWhy don't you play the games and find out?
Tying up Agate and Erika and making them watch Tita get made into a cumdump for South-East Zemurians
>>543399470YOU CAN ONLY LIKE BIG TITS AND BIG ASS OR LOLIS. CHOOSE ONE NOT BOTH. ARE YOU A LESBIAN?!!!!
>>543400035Haha... don't point out his strategy so blatantly.
>>543400136Daswani hands typed this
>>543399998That's incomplete proof.For your proof to be complete, you must prove that Leiston Fortress is 350km from Zeiss.>>543400035What. Is. On. The. Other. Side. Of. The. Drawbridge. From. The. River?Answer. The. Question.
Tying up Tita and making her watch Agate and Erika be forced to breed and give her a new half-sibling
>>543399998More like 3500 meters.
>>543376792she said it's because a few bad apples who harassed her by spoiling her and calling her slurs (first they did it on stream, then youtube, discord and business e-mail as the bans went on)my guess is that the guy who has been shilling her in this general triggered some autists who decided to take action... on her? instead of reporting the guy for being annoying.
>>543400316unironically kino
>>543400212IM NOT A WOOOOMMAAANNNN I LIKE ALLLLLLL THREEE OF THEM!!!!!!!¡
>>543400239The ocean, which small fishing ships usually go to, also the coast which ships can use for travel. Now where is the mythical Liberlian Navy? It just takes one screenshot to destroy me. If your next reply doesn't feature an in-game screenshot of the Liberlian Navy I will, for your own sanity and sake, consider it as concession. You have one post to defend Leiston Fortress, make it count.
Challenge: Name all the straights, homos, lesbos in kiseki
>>543400425>vtumor fan is a furfagKEKKKKKKKKKKK MY FUCKING SIDES
>>543400489IF YOU LIKE LOLIS YOU ARE A LESBIAN! NOW POST TITS!
You can walk a circle around Valleria Lake within 10 minutes of real time.Therefore, Liberl is approximately 10km2 in size.
>>543400702ur mom lesbian nigga
not too fond of leiston fortress
>>543400702My BOOBS are NOT for YOU. JOSHY BELONGS TO MEEEEEREEEEEEE!!!!!!@@
Defund Leiston Fortress NOW.
OK I'll just spell it out since anon is clearly not arguing in good faith.On one side of the drawbridge in Ruan is the river leading to Valleria Lake.On the other side of the drawbridge is Azelia Bay, which is part of the Balares Sea.This means the purpose of the drawbridge is for boats to travel from the Balares Sea to the river and vice versa.This means these boats are factually "seafaring."This means that the statement "due to Liberl not investing in seafaring technology whatsoever" is factually incorrect.This means that >>543388328 was wrong on the internet and should feel ashamed and humiliated for being wrong.
>>543400239Can you disprove that it's 350km? (You) can't? I guess it is 350km,
unironically one of the funniest threads in a whilethese 2 guys are obviously fucking around about the fortress but skyfags literally cannot handle any criticism even when it's just anons messing around kek
>p-p-post proof!!!>nooo you post proof!!this argument is pathetic.
>haha I was just pretending to be retarded
>>543400958SO YOU ARE A LESBIAN POST TITS NOW
>>543400718Didn't I tell you gits that from Bose to Khrone and Manoria village should've been nearly 2 weeks? Then another 3-4 days from Manoria to Ruan.
>>543401010As stipulated here >>543400498, concession accepted.Feel free to post an in-game screenshot of the Liberl Navy at any point to redeem yourself.Until then, you lost. And I won. But you're used to that.
>>543401315I'm afraid I can't do that Estelle....wait....why are you asking....masaka....you're BI?!?!?!
For me, it's lesbian shadow rape.
>>543401010Actually you're wrong because the main plot of Chapter 2 FC is about how ships are pretty rare in Liberl because Liberl isn't investing in seafaring technology.
>>543401407>>543400498 moved the goalposts and did not change that >>543388328 made a factually incorrect statement.
>>543401535Refer to >>543401407
>>543401484Hmm based???
Some redditor mapped out the distances in selge, I don't know how accurate this is but whatever. Have fun you turbo spergs.
>>543401680>"Kloe is superhuman - Jenis Royal Academy to Mercia Orphanage is 490 selge or 49 km, yet from dialogue, she seems to make this trip both ways in one day sometimes"lol
>>543401484Reanafemanon...
>>543401485No, >>543401010 is literally a completely factually correct post.It does not specify the scale of investment.The fact that such a drawbridge exists is proof that there is investment, even if it is quite small.The point is >>543388328 made a factually incorrect statement when he said>due to Liberl not investing in seafaring technology whatsoeverWhich literally means 0 Mira being spent.Had he said "due to Liberl investing very little in seafaring technology" he may have not been factually incorrect.But he was retarded and said that literally 0 Mira was being spent despite the existence of the drawbridge clearly proving otherwise.
Shut up and post kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBZ2vA9D2RA
>>543401680huh guess anon thought 1 selge = 1km but it's actually 1 selge = 0.1km so leiston to zeiss would be 33.7km, still a big distance for on foot response but not as egregious
>>543401918Man, CS2 really was where this series peaked.
>>543401858Yeah no, without a bus or bike that's not feasible.
ban all leiston fortressfags
Schizzy's forgetting that Leiston Fortress literally saved Liberl's ass during the 100 days war.
>>543401484Agnes is actually very hot for bullying
>>543401680>>543401921kek so >>543388328 >>543397365 was objectively, factually wrong when he said:>You can't easily reach any major city from Leiston Fortress by conventional travel.>350km>Liberl not investing in seafaring technology whatsoever>He would need to board an airshipEmbarrassing. Absolutely embarrassing show from the CSfags who ruin their fruit with Tajin.
>>543402408Vankid... nobody was talking about CS.
>>543402408Skyfags need validation that csfags are stupid yet they keep playing the series designed for csfags
>>543401858>>543402185Kloe fast like Blue Hedgehog... wait, Kloe has Blue Hair...
>>543402491We all know only the CSfags would make such a retarded argument.
kai 2 never?
>>543402408Yeah, I got the distances wrong, my bad. But all it does is change it from a 7 day deployment endeavour to a 3 days deployment endeavour. My points still stand, they are simply slightly faster.
>>543402408Jesus fuck skytroons are the most petty individuals on the planet. Everything has to relate to “winning” against their boogeyman the “csfags” lmao. Are you that salty that cold steel is the most popular and most liked arc worldwide??
Finally, we know who Kiseki Sonic Underground hedgehog is...
>>543402518>the series designed for csfagsCSgods are most vocal about the downfall of the series past Reverie while Skybabs just eat up the crumbs thrown into their direction.
>>543402408Leiston is like 35 km from Grancel.
hol up why did my font just change
>>543401902The bridge isn't a boat so they aren't.
>>543402380Van's harem will take turns bullying her for the shit she pulled in Kai...She will love it.
>>543402702It’s because skytards are insecure about their arc. Vankids are the same too there’s a lot of overlap between skytards and vankids
>>543402710This, lmao.>oh yes mommy a remake>censored script and spats on all girls? don't care I love remakes :)
>>543402773The drawbridge would obviously not be necessary if 0 Mira was being spent on boats.
>>543402784If I can give falcom one thing, it's that they're great at making models. They just can't give them more body variety, so you end up with a lot of girls having the same butt lol.
>>543402806Okay? My point still stands. Unlike you I can admit when I said something wrong but unlucky for you that mistake didn't invalidate my argument. Though I'm sure you will now dedicate 10 posts to yelling otherwise.
>>543402709>>543402527TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOWRIGHT NOW!!!!
>>543402890Skytroons don't mind the Calvard arc because it appeals to the west. On the other hand, they dislike CS because it appeals to japs.
>>543402681Uh, 350/33.7=10.397/3=2.33Your math is juuuuuuuuuuuuust a bit off bro.
shizuna will rape van
>>543402806>>543403157Guess we're even now, considering you also made a mathematical error haha...
>>543403059No, your point doesn't still stand. They're over 10 times closer than you said they were.That means your "7 day deployment" becomes an under 1 day deployment.
>>543403141Idk cs couldn't even give Rean an actual girl. Sky at least has Joshua and Estelle together, even if they haven't done anything....
Why do these dorks get to have such a cool country crest? Not fair.
>>543401918This is Rean's best outfit.Change my mind.
Anies tied up and forced to watch the rest of the girls and even Quatre take turns milking Van until he is dry, only allowed a taste of Vancum by cleaning it out of their creamy cunts.
>>543403564This is really what you've been reduced to, huh?
Well I believe we have thoroughly established that >>543388328 is as stupid as the CS arc's Naruto/Bleach/One Piece-tier writing.
>>543403636have you even watched or read any of those three series you named?
>>543403636See >>543401642
>>543403761Everyone on this site watched at least one of those growing up.
>>543403761Unfortunately. I had my retard shonenshit phase when I was young like most animefags do.
>>543403636Vankid... if Cold Steel is Naruto, Calvard would be SAO.
>>543404075kek
>>543403636>>543404020>Skytroon is a self-hating weebLOL
>>543403635Yeah
>>543404075I'm not Vankid and I'm not going to dispute that Calvard arc isn't even worse than the already quite bad CS.At least CS isn't woke or as western looking as Calvard.
>>543404075CS is Naruto Shippuden, Sky is part 1 Naruto.
>>543404020>>543403947yea but you were kids you didnt have the brain development to be able to conceive writing styles and certain ideologies. And if those shows are "cringe" why continue to indulge in kiseki after sky then since it became "shonen slop" seems like you didnt outgrow it or find it as bad as you say it is
>>543399943Why haven't you shut up like you said you would?
>>543404075>>543403636Sky is Berserk.Crossbelll is SnK.Cold Steel is Hunter x Hunter.Calvard is Food Wars.
>>543404165Well, no, current me is actually quite fucking awesome.
>>543404209calvard arc is falcom trying to appeal to all but thats a mistake some jp devs do(atelier yumia) so they end up appealing to none. I guess redditfags like calvard maybe because it has zoomer humor from the localizers.
>>543404443Are you trying to fool me, or yourself?
Making Rean watch as Crow is passed around fat ugly South East Zemurians like a 50 Mira coin
>vankid gets BTFO>desperately tries to turn it into another CS hate flamewarkekthe power of 7 discords
>>543404337lol vankidfag is stuck in your head vankid. Why havent you shutted up about your 7 discords and AI to prove cold steel is the least popular arc in the west??
>>543404501I'm just trying to Evopost.
>>543404443Current you scared away Laurafemanon
>>543404676Is that what you think "awesome" people do?
>>543404617>shutter upESL Vankidfag. We know only you use your dogshit buzzword that never took off.
>>543404710...OK?Laura has a masculine penis.
>>543404853vankid sad that his 7 discord argument didnt work the way he intended it too and made vankids look even more retarded
>>543404856Futafag...
>>543404853Twitchkid learned english by watching streamers, give him a break. He thinks malding is a real word.
Oh man, I just took the most perfect CS arc.Slid right out of my butt and left NOTHING behind on the baby wipe.11/10 CS arc.
oh god not arwars again
>never took offLOL you've been seething about it for 4 years BTWhttps://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/vankid/
>>543404817Yes.
Why do the Calvard games have a generally poorer reception/weaker sales in Japan?I am genuinely curious not trying to start some shit. Because in other forum type places in west besides this general I keep seeing people gush constantly about kai. Is it because they hate cliffhangers more than we do? or are there other reasons?
>>543402974It's a relic from a bygone age.
Sky has good writing and gameplay. Crossbell has OK writing and gameplay. CS has shit writing and gameplay. Calvard has dogshit writing and gameplay.All of them have cute girls, which is what keeps me playing the series.
>Part 1: The Decisive Collisionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB-APrkmSdwRean is confronted by the man he thought of as a good friend and fights him to protect his friends, his home and his ideals, desperately clinging to the wish that he can reclaim his peaceful schooldays.>Part 2: Blue Destinationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GksfPmkdTAcAfter their previous bout ended in Rean's loss, the two former friends meet again atop the Pantagruel and fight to their heart's content without holding back for the first time, each firmly believing in their ideals. This battle ends in Rean's favor, showing the fruits of his labour and revealing that Rean's motivation to drag Crow back into their class overpowers the other's ideals that stand opposed to his friend.>Part 3: I'll remember youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dieFXCB-7MkThe final act - two friends who were separated by their ideals and put on opposing sides of a war finally reunite and face off against a greater evil, a foe they need to overcome at all cost.The two friends take up arms and work together to protect what they hold dear, no matter the price they have to pay.
>>543405559they like slop
>>543405559worse marketing than the cold steel arc. I dont think arkride solutions is well liked either. Maybe renne, elaine, and shizuna but they arent even ASO but they are part of the cast
>>543405623>Sky has good writing and gameplayOnly the writing is good.
>>543405610No, it is literally still used. Boats still literally pass through it.Even if no new boats were being made, maintenance which costs Mira would be performed on those boats, qualifying as "investment."
>>543405349Explains a lot, haha...
>>543405623pretty much this
>>543405715calvard isnt slop? kuro 2 and kai isnt slop?
>>543405623>Sky has good writinglol>is that... another Ouroboros enforcer?? what is your goal?>fufu... wouldn't you like to know? *teleports away*>rinse and repeat for each region of Liberl
>>543405559We all hated Kai until the cliffhanger tricked shounenspics.
>>543405745Wrong.
>>543405709You make me want to replay Kino Steel...Where did it all go so wrong?
>>543405906kuro 2 and kai are slop but kuro 1 is pretty good
>>543405783The bridge is primarily a tourist attraction disqualifying it from being marine investment.
>>543405956I said that besides this general people have gushed about it. You look everywhere else its praised highly. Thats why I was wondering why in japan it was more mixed
>>543405709A tragedy in three acts, spanning multiple games to pay off. Kino. I miss when kiseki had an actual vision behind it.
>>543405862>his arc is romancing a 16 y/o but Falcom doesn't have the balls to go through with it because they're afraid of Western twitterwhat a bum rizzless MC
Renne fucking Agnes and Tita and even Estelle in the pussy on the regular with her Cult-Given Futa Cock
>>543406063>>543406337That's what happens when you move from a kino militaristic empire on the brink of civil war to a democratic republic whose major problems are refugees and racism.
20th of October, 2025The infamous day in which Skyfags proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, their unhinged insanity
>No don't have a fortress that can abuse your air superiority and be supplied by water>Any enemy would just disable the airships just like they did in the 100days war oh wait no they did not. They got sodomized by Cassius Bright and RiGODchard AlanErebonians once again prove they have no strategy, just throwing meat at a problem. By the time you break Haken gate SkyChads would have evaquated Bose and bombed your shitty tanks on approach. While the Arseile would be in Heimdalr dropping bombs on Elliot's sister.
>>543405559Not focused in high school and Van isn't good fujobait like Rean.That's it.
>>543407039but doesnt van have fujo moment with aaron in hotspring in both kuro 1 and 2?
>>543405304>he's been saying his meme buzzword by himself for 4 yearsdamn dude, you sure showed me kek
>>543407039thats the most vankid response ever. The pettiness that his favorite arc is disliked by spouting incorrect statements and thinking thats all cold steel is. vankids are kinda sad that people arent self inserting into van like they do huh???
Why is it that Skyboomers, Crossbellfags and Cold Steel chuds generally get along well with each other, but Vankids can't go a single thread without having a major meltdown?
>>543405349>evoEw Let me fix that for you.
Cold Steel and Calvard both are filled to the brim with crappy lazy hack writing but the difference is that at least Cold Steel knew what audience it was trying to appeal to. If you're a teenager who loves cringey high school battle harem stories and mechas then you'll love Cold Steel because it gives that person everything they want. Who does Calvard even appeal to? You want a more noir kind of private detective story? Fails to deliver. You want Kamen Rider? Fails to deliver. What fantasy is Calvard even trying to sell?
Check this out guys, I snapped a sick picture of Liberl's navy:
>>543407682It’s because apparently the harem got mixed reception in Japan, so falcom wants to make both love triangle and a harem by having teases with Van and the other girls. They are trying to make a game that appeals to all the countries
>>543407734kek holy shit
>>543407682Acts as if other arcs don’t have tropes and audience appeal too. What a disingenuous Skytroon
grancel apparently has 300,000 people but only like 8 houses
>>543407734KWAB (Kek! What a boat!)
>>543407169and it is still not enough for fujos that live for Rean x Crow>>543407364>Reanspic delusionsSame shit different day, huh?>>543407734Idk why you retards keep talking about navies when no country in Zemuria focuses on them, but we know that Liberl used old navy ships to keep Erebonia's also invisible navy,.according to you retards, from encroaching by sea. They sent them out Ruan to the mouth of the river or lake or whatever it is. Kloe and Joshua explain that to Estelle.
>>543407734the power of seafaring research...
>>543408090Obviously it's not to scale, I'm willing to bed that Rolent had like +20k people.
>>543408090well its either >city only has 20 buildings in it but you can actually walk around the whole thing>city is separated into 20 different loading screens you fast travel between but theres way more inaccessible buildings in the distance to give it a sense of scale
>>543407734Erebonians lost to this
>>543408352the latter is the better way but i can see why they wanted to keep it faithful to the original
https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Hundred_Days_War>As this strike went underway, they simultaneously launched an amphibious attack from Leiston Fortress and, one by one, defeated the remaining isolated Imperial divisions. Oh no no no "Behold, Liberl's Navy"fags not like this.
>>543408525Erebonia really is more a Russia than Germany kek
>>543408267>when no country in Zemuria focuses on themErebonia had the Silver Whale.
>>543408627>amphibious attack from Leiston Fortress
>>543407734i want a water arc with ship battles
>>543408627Oh no no no "Leiston Fortress is useless"fags not like this.
>>543408113lmao
>>543408352I think the remake should have done more to increase the scale of the world. It's easier for your mind to deal with abstractions in isometric 2.5d than it is in full behind the shoulder 3D. Liberl in small in the original FC but it doesn't feel like 50 people live in the entire country like it does in the remake because the limited view and the area transitions made the world feel a bit bigger than it actually was. Falcom had this exact same problem when they remade Crossbell in CS3. They didn't account for the different perspective so it ends up looking laughably tiny. It's exactly what I was afraid of when they announced the remake.
>>543408267How bout turning on your brain next time to play a game
>>543388328Boy I bet you feel stupid now, anon.
>>543408957I mean you have to consider dev time as well your asking a lot from a company that can’t provide that. They just don’t get enough time to do these kind of things which is unfortunate but that’s just how their formula works
>>543408627>while richard was aura farming they simultaneously attacked with their invisible shipsKINO
>>5434086273 patrol ships?!?!?!?!?!? AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>543407734Why do any of the countries even need a navy? Naval warfare is practically nonexistent in Zemuria due to the geography, it's always been one of my biggest problems with Kiseki. I know the outer edges of Zemuria are supposed to be a mystery but why couldn't there have been multiple continents separated by bodies of water? But yeah, all this image shows is that Liberl is a fiscally responsible country who doesn't waste taxpayer money on unnecessary military divisions. Meanwhile Erebonia builds billions of tanks just to get BTFO'd by Cassius and his 5 airships.
>>543408267I wonder how much of a melty you will cause if Kai 2 doesn’t get announced this year vankid
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAEREBONIAN MEN LOST TO FISHING BOATSHEHAHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAESTELLE GET THE CAMERA!
>>543409141how come richard got a movie made about him but not estelle or lloyd
>>543407308You really think it's been only one person saying it for 4 years 756~ times?Says a lot about you that you'd consider that a possibility haha
>>543409424even the crop muncher got his own movie
>>543409424Why would they make movies about B rank shitters?
When Estelle says in the remake that Richard isn't a "mustache-twirling villain" it made me think that Cassius being a villain would be a hell of a twist.
>>543408627>>543409141>>543409170There's some optional dialogue in Ruan about how they had to blow up their fleet, just sync them in the Ruan river in order to create a "plug" that prevented a naval invasion.
>>543409424Because Richard is HIM.
>>543409413Like the Russians...
>>543409642he's an anguis and the whole bracer guild attack was a charade fufu
>>543409867everything was a lie...
>>543408267>They sent them out Ruan to the mouth of the river or lake or whatever it is. Kloe and Joshua explain that to Estelle.So they had boats but don't anymore? I guess they don't have boats then.
>>543409319>>543408965seething reanspics that got btfo haha
>>543410105fuck... Leistonsisters... we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...
>>543409643That's obviously a separate operation, as that clearly does not qualify as an "attack" but rather a defensive operation.
>>543410105No tranny, they aren't like you who once had a dick and now doesn't Dont assume the world moves in the same way you do
Wow it's true..... only the femanons play games
Total Erebonian Death
>>543388328>>543408627I haven't seen a beatdown like this since Tyre Nichols.
why did anelace do this
>>543411881>>543411881>>543411881>>543411881>>543411881>>543411881
why are Skyfags such bullies? all I wanted was some friendly banter
>>543411296Reanspics got owned non stop this thread kek. Someone should make a memorial of some kind for posterity.
>>543407682woke politics
