where are recent tierlists posted?

S: lynn
A: bee you are self
F: wh hayato
there you go

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>>543396692
inven usually, but its not gospel for us because of attack speed but charts are never gospel anyways
always take em with a grain of salt, here's a inven chart I saw
wild hunter doin alright

>>543397037
>all of my 260s are in the lowest tier
what in the fuck
when did night walker slip so far?

>>543397389
night walkers have been pretty eh in kms for awhile but it got worse when they capped the shadow spear procs in the balance patch, that's one of the reasons its very good here, the attack speed difference on shadow spear procs, but yeah if its capped its gonna be a sizeable nw nerf here, quint's fine though
I have one as a legion champ and im debating if I like the kit enough to continue with it or if I should maybe consider like hoyoung or khali or something and move its gear over/ give my good main gear to it when I swap to pitched
I dunno front dash and back dash and all the stuff it has is pretty decent kit wise, dunno if I do care enough about the dmg being less godly
sitting around waiting for ascents to make the bm mission p1 free on my night walker basically, its min cut for hseren mission (i cant play that well on nw)

lala at the bottom!!!

>>543397037
where's lynn and mo xuan?

>>543398153
I saw a lara do ckalos mission at 103k hexa, so I think shes generally nice to play, and that's a solid hexa score to do ckalos at
>>543398283
lynn and mo xuan aren't in korean maple story, therefore they are not in korean maple story charts
lynn is top dog, dunno enough about mo xuan
gms charts are like whatever, shits wack

a different server, this is kms not gms
they're both top tier though

Is anyone here going to maplecon?
I got a ticket but my guildies who were going to go backed out so I'll be there alone. Just figured it'd be cool to try the classic demo with someone.

unfortunately i am poor

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couple of my guildies are going, but it really is crazy what they're charging for tickets this year, its comparable to like a 3 day con for most other major cons and its just 1 day, heard my guildies talkin about that in vc
classic test sounds like they're just gonna be giving you a lv 30 account and you go do kpq
just gonna be watchin the stream and chillin here

>>543403207
Yeah, I got a discount for being a content creator lmao, they reached out and just asked for a couple twitter posts and a youtube video.
If it was full price I definitely wouldn't have.
Still, gonna be lonely.

>>543403702
Are you big or like a literal who do they even have a minimum

>>543403880
literal who. I streamed latale a lot a few years ago and averaged like 40 viewers, when I play maple I get like 20~
No one would recognize me, basically. I know others have gotten similar offers, and bigger streamers got free tickets and swag bags.

>>543402457
Sorry bro but I live on the other side of the map and I dont have enough nexon to buy a hyper teleport rock

does bippew get discounts to maple events in gorea

Wake up, new changpop dropped and this one is a real banger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Z-TrpYcJw

Man, I remember when halloween was a big event, christmas too, I was looking through the last couple years and it seems like there's basically nothing. Maybe one day of an item giveaway or a shitty paid battlepass.
What happenedf?

>>543407772
what's the lore behind this?

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never watched gay pop demon slayer but i liked this one

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Sometimes I ask myself why I still play this game

Inkwell will fix heroic trust the plan

>>543418383
The craziest part of all of the go west stuff is that, even though they fucking REMOVED jett and most other gms-exclusive content, that somehow people think they'll keep heroic going. It's doomed. It will go away someday. This isn't a "maybe" it's just an objective fact. When it's too much work to keep maintained, it goes away.
I'd wager after KMS finishes the retooling of all the progression systems, they say "Well interactive is now BASICALLY the same, so we're making all heroic worlds interactive!" and stuff in the meso limit.

blud learned everything about this game from reddit
blud does not even know what he's saying
lol

>>543419742
no I've been playing gms since 2007, and jms/sea before that. Kinda hard to be so blatantly retarded as to ignore how the game has been handled.
I mean shit, don't have to look too far, look at sia, and how they handled it. It's broken, buggy to fuck, and was literally the source of a major dupe.
The laziness of GMS had another dupe when reboot launched too where you could literally just buy 99 black cubes and overflow into GETTING max meso.

the past is irrelevant reboot isn't allowed to die so it will simply live it's that easy mate.

what is reboot?

>>543421157
>the past is irrelevant
Just like "We promise not to remove jett" and 2 months later getting jett removal notice, or fury totems getting the same treatment, right?
The past is indicative of their treatment of their product. This go west split is literally just a ticking timebomb for the reconvergence.

>>543414650
turns out they started removing chanpops on the korean platform kaokao

>>543421445
Heroic is still where the majority of the population gather, they can't really normalize it ...
Never mind the fact that they forgot to put the droplets in the shop this event, and we literally have nothing to buy

>>543422824
>they can't really normalize it
almost like they did PRECISELY that in kms, where reboot had just eclipsed the most popular non-reboot world, which made them slam the panic "shut it the fuck down" button.

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good

difference is the majority is already on rebooty by this point instead of just starting to even out. the point where you can panic and shut it down has been passed already, the genie is out of the bottle they have to make it work now which is why they're (hopefully see you this week) implementing changes designed with later game booty problems in mind
either way though idrc erel looks cool when is he dropping

>>543424726
or they can just force it. Like KMS did.
Or how they did with the removal of kishin spawnboost
or fury totems
You're expecting way too much due diligence from nexon in this.

Inkwell would never

they can't though. it doesn't even make sense to do so if they could

>>543426363
I think if they want to normalize gms they have to do it very very slowly to the point that reg is just much more enticing, if they rip of the band-aid like kms gms would die right there and then

>>543431521
Yeah just like how it would immediately die if they removed totems
or removed classes
or removed pottable badges

>>543431793
oh god nebulites too, can't forget all the gigawhales that spent all that money on rerolling their nebs, and how the game died as SOON as they got rid of them.
Man, what a disaster.

>>543431793
They tried neglected reboot as much as they neglected exclusive content, but it never died, gms just prefers the reboot way of progressing, and they know it, that's why they have not killed it yet and will bring massive QoL changes
we're talking about a whole ass server with a different way to play, not just some game mechanic

I hate this octopussy event so much that you wouldn't believe

bros i'm so hyped
finally, pitch pity
famalama pity
starforcing pity
not only boot but also reg will benefit from this
we're eating so fucking good

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>>543397037
>tfw hero
haha...

>>543419371
that would be fine
heroic's restrictions are actually shit, it's just that bera and scania are even shittier, and they're burdened by over a decade of bad decisions
nobody actually likes no trading and 50 boss mules, they just hate frenzy cartels and paid cubes

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>>543416679
Big deal, mine's not even on the right character

>>543436139
just put it in storage? or if you changed mains you can get a platinum scissors of karma from the reward point shop to make it tradable once?

did hero REALLY get put in the dumpster in 1 patch

>>543437150
none of the balance patches were that good for hero, its like -10 fd total in kms roughly I think? compared to paladin which got around a +8 fd buff it isn't indicative of hero here cus of attack speed diff, might not be as bad, idk check class discord for more info but the strongest hero in kms godling did job change to paladin

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why yes, I hate trading in a MMO, how could you tell?

>>543437570
they say at worst -5%fd with action delay and that gms would place them slightly below the average

paladin benefits from attack speed too though so you'd still have to be a little retarded to pick hero

>>543432634
they neglected it because KMS neglected it.
In case you've missed it, there have been serious, gamebreaking bugs every single time we patch after go west. Usually requiring 2-3 unscheduled maintenance first week, usually to contain a severe, gamebreaking bug.
Again, this isn't even something up for debate, when it's not worthwhile to maintain, they will axe it, because KMS doesn't have it, and ultimately, GMS will always follow KMS, at least for mainplestory. When classic comes, maybe it fucking merks mainline maple, then GMS can do their own thing. Until then though, we're beholden to KMS.

oh no hero is still the worst performing explorer warrior and by a noticeable margin
i meant overall it still runs slightly below average

I need MS classic already now not in april

>>543441882
Almost 100% chance they do an open test in late nov or early dec. How much is in it, we won't know but it'll probably be something like the demo at maplecon.

>>543442674
I literally only hope for no hp wash, I think from some promo material mages had more hp than normally on like level 30 or something so I'm hopeful

>lets kill the entire classic project and any hope for gms to ever gain back relevance cuz we want to increase the revenue by 2%
lel
prebbabies really are not smart

>>543437685
maple on her pussy only for me

It's clearly being done in maple worlds. Just fucking look at the footage they've shown, especially the kpq.

wow it didnt take long for my statement to become more true

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whos buying these bored apes

>>543449925
people who think dreams are worth something.
Or they like the look for some reason.

classic posters are so whiny oh my god

>>543437570
I think people are taking endgame FD too lightly. To go from a fake 3L to a double prime is double billions of cubing every time and only a +0.45FD gain. Imagine someone who spent years finally rolling all their 16 gear pieces to get +4FD total. And the balance patch just does a -8FD nerf. That's entire 2-3 years of someone's life wasted down the drain

there are 21 equip types that can carry a potential

>meta changes every year or so
>constant new forms of powercreep
>no one forced them to whale but they did (on the character they are playing (which might have been good when they began (so they shouldn't complain about meta not changing)))
>"my class is WEAK because this class exists!!!!!" sort of dumbass relative damage metafagging
whale x metafag?
that's retard squared

>>543455737
yeah I do agree endgame FD is no joke, like destiny weapon for most classes is around 4fd(?)
might be diff here because we won't get a potential upgrade except boss damage I think to 50%, but everybody has attack % anyways
small fd changes right now are making or breaking ckalos destiny solo/ soloing ckalos weekly but more importantly kaling destiny mission, for most classes hkaling destiny mission is do-able around 117k hexa, the recommended spec for extreme adversary is 120k hexa, this means it is technically "post" destiny lib
its not unusual for nexon to do the its very hard to reach this and make it a lil easier every major patch but it still feels pretty damn shitty

>>543456276
no your class is weak because it's weak and you functionally lost like 4T spent of damage and investment and can't do [content] anymore of course people are going to be upset about that dummy
if you weren't at least sad about that i'd call you a weirdo imagine doing cutting edge prog with the literal best gear possible and nexon just tells you to go fuck yourself on a thursday afternoon and tells you everything now has no value and the thing you were chasing is just simply unobtainable for you, sorry

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results of champ double up
a little disappointing but free shit is free shit

this maplenigga>>543459468 wasted
a whole instanced coin shop and a free 2l drop event ring on a legion 250 and didnt even get the 250 get he ass *starts twerking*

>>543459675
are they vac pets or regular?
I don't know if I really want to throw more money at nexon right now for vacs, but I'll definitely drop a hundo for regular.
I'll put them over my shitty demon kuso pets

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>>543459675
i wanted an aura pet

ubelfags won

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfGbOmhWCQM
>some random ass ad has 2.5m views
can ANYTHING save jms?
why does nexon even bother with this server anymore? they arent providing anything useful for gms

>>543460552
those are probably the same type of vac pets as tanjiro ones

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>a video game update ad [is immensely popular]
>can anything save it?
>why does nexon bother with [popular thing]?

>ad got more views = thing is popular
4 int

>>543461993
>randomly shitting on jms
not even a bot could write something so retarded bro truly is an /msg/er

>>543459675
I can't wait for this event to be another weebslop with 0 content and just more RNG NX

what's a crossover you'd approve of, anon?

what content are you expecting, frieren weapon lib? it's a limited time collab dumbass

>>543463564
dave the diver ofc, that was kino

>dave the flop
FUCK YOU for reminding me of that garbage
what the hell were they thinking, it was so cancerous

>>543463564
Coke town

okay outside of dave
after all that was the second time they crossed over right, how bout something unique?
actually would you consider it a crossover if both things were ultimately made by nexon?

blue archive

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>>543463923
we already had that

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>>543463764
it was so kino they decided to extend it for four more weeks

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i will forgive changslop on everything if he gives us this bitch just for memes

she will be the sole reason that a ba collab will never ever happen

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>>543463764
kill yourself immediately

i've actually never played any gacha before, but don't they have like a retarded number of characters?
how would you satisfy a fanbase if you do a collab with only a few of these characters?

you just pick the usual collab characters it's pretty easy
all you need is some combination of aybdos, ps68, arona+plana, yuuka and like mika or something. maki got something in world of warships i think

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collab with kf3 and have dhole and serbal and raccoon and moose and girl!captain and boy!captain
(nexon also has ownership of this property)

gib shoebill and im down

collab with league of legends
biggest game in korea, will sell millions

>buler with full arcanes got armor and wep box
the rich keep getting richer...

no more league arcane slop i'm good on jinx

>>543441882
Same, I'm currently scratching the itch with private servers but I need the real thing.

I hate that now the items expire at the same time as the event
HATE HATE HATE HATE

shouldnt have hoarded those items anon

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yeah in kms thats how it is from now on, the last summer was the last time
you could save up and instabonk a hyperburn to 260 so i didn't miss out on it

>>543419371
>>543419968
You're just another retarded regger coping that "reboot will die one day, and everyone will come back to reg and buy all my overpriced shit that I've been hoarding for the last decade"

It isn't happening, meso cap fiasco was over 2 years ago, stop the dooming and coping u dumbass, they arnt going to kill the server that has 90% of the playerbase and the servers where people actually spend money.

>>543431521
>I think if they want to normalize gms they have to do it very very slowly to the point that reg is just much more enticing

"if they make reboot so dogshit to play people will want to play reg instead"

Complete bullshit, there is no "fixing" reg for 99% of the players in reboot, there is no making reg more enticing for us, it is not a viable strategy at all, people would just quit.

How are you going to make a piece of dogshit more appealing to people, you can polish it all you want, spray paint it gold, mix some sugar in, put some sprinkles on it but at the end of the day it is and always will be a piece of dogshit.

Do you think if you removed every kind of delicious food in the world that would make people want to eat the dogshit?
No, they'd just starve to death or eat something else that isn't dogshit.

There is no reboot to reg pipeline, it doesn't exist, it will never exist, everyone quit that shit decades ago and only came back purely for reboot, if they fuck up reboot then their is only the reboot to touching grass and saving money pipeline.

>>543435320
>nobody actually likes no trading

I love no trading, it's the best part of reboot, anyone that thinks trading or economies in mmos is a good idea in 2025 is a fucking retard and has obviously never had to deal will all the mmos today being bot infested, rmt infested, 3rd world rice farmer infested shitshows where everyone just swipes their credit card to skip 99% of the game, the auction house is filled with no life losers who sit at the ah refreshing all day long to snipe the best deals and price gouge the markets, divorced handless gamer dads spending their entire paycheck on black markets just so they can feel superior to everyone in a 20 year old mmo, we need MORE no trade mmos, you sheltered maple retards that have played reboot for the last decade and nothing else who think trading sounds like just a neat wholesome fun way to play the game are so fucking clueless to just how fucking awful economy based mmos are today, the botting industry is 1000x times bigger than it was back in 2004, it's industrial now, it's a billion dollar industry, unless you enjoy being a filthy cheater who buys all their shit from bots economy based mmos are terrible.

maybe if you're a fag who spends all your time comparing yourself to others instead of just trading when it benefits you and ignoring it the rest of the time
reboot is already topped by bots and service buyers since they can't be bothered to grind

>>543483004
>service buyers since they can't be bothered to grind
so when I came back because of the event that is going on (wanting to do len on challenger world) I did notice smegas about people selling grinding service for 2$/hr
which is weird because I never remembered seeing shit like that

>>543472392
>I hate that now the items expire at the same time as the event

Yeh it's soo much worse then you hoarding everything to claim on the last day then bitching on reddit about "what am i supposed to do with 50 expiring x3 coupons".

Here's an idea, just use the rewards when u get them retard.

>>543463764
dave was based, it gave me reason to login
this octopus crap is giving me the exact opposite reaction, there's genuinely no reason for me to care about logging in at all right now

>>543483004
Trading in maple is so fucking retarded like bro what do you even have to trade in this dogshit ass game that has maybe 10 good items in it lmao.

This isnt wow or osms where there are thousands of unique flavor items, consumables, gadgets, materials etc, you're not stopping off at the ah in maple every few levels to see what cool new gear u can buy now, the only thing in the market worth anything to me as a reboot player is eternals and pitched, everything else is irrelevant.

"but think of the cras and think of the gollux it's so convenient since im an nlomien warlord bla bla bla"
Brother, If I need cras or gollux on reboot I just get a carry and it takes 10 fucking seconds and it feels good getting my own damn gear without having to buy it from some dipshit rice farmer trying to make a living running bots.

Unironically boss trading and carry runs make reboot far more interactive than the interactive server, you think interacting with bots on a soullessly market ui is "interacting", meanwhile in reboot everyone is making friends with other ppl and spending an hour chatting it up while they have fun trading boss carrys for each other.

The only reason trading exists is so you can skip having to interact with the cringe upgrade systems and let someone else do it for you

>>543486323
>the only reason trading exists is so you can skip having to interact with the cringe upgrade systems and let a botter* do it for you

ftfy

It's funny to me when I hear reg players think that the sf servicers are simply "playing the odds", no dumbass the odds are irrelevant to them because they are sfing with their excess botted meso for free lmao, "sf service" is just a roundabout way for botters to offload more mesos.

>>543490497
Nothing in this game is designed around GMS, stop trying to think that is the case.
Starforcing not having pity and having near unachievable rng for truly maxing it out was made literally just to scam gambling addicts out of their money. This is also why inkwell is being forced to change it for GMS cause the system was designed around the high player base and huge whales that KMS has, so having it function 1:1 in GMS makes no sense since in Interactive all it promotes is botting, while in heroic it just fucks over players for no real reason. Nexon NA does not benefit from the current starforce system at all.

>>543490804
No shit anyone with 2 brain cells can see that 22 and above is whale bait, either way, an mmo that only survives because it relies on botters is not a game worth playing, remove bots and frenzy from reg and the whole house of cards collapses, majority of people over in reg cant grind, even with frenzy the average reg player is still a shangrila shitter, just got to ch1 heny and take a look around and the average level, these mofos do not grind, if reboot had fz literally everyone would be 295+ and there would be hundreds, probably thousands of level 300s.

Inkwell knows damn well what really happens over in reg in the shadows, you want to know why there is no meso wand? It's because inkwell knows you'd all just run 10 bots and cheat the entire system in reg if you could buy cubes with meso, if you think reg botting is bad now, meso wand would make the botting in reg out of control.

>>543491846
I mean you literally answered your own question, interactive economy is balanced around KMS playercounts, the entire system fundamentally just doesn't work since it wasn't designed to work in this context in the first place.
Keeping frenzy around is a bandaid solution but it never fixed all the problems and introduced way more shit like botting and service.
>meso wand would make the botting in reg out of control.
But that is purely because of frenzy and GMS not taking some of the economy changes KMS had over the last few years. KMS economy currently works in a way that botting is near useless since the vast majority of meso comes from bossing crystals, epic dungeon and azmoth. Content that can't be botted (not to mention the meso cap further fucks over what botters could get)

>>543492740
>But that is purely because of frenzy and GMS not taking some of the economy changes KMS had over the last few years. KMS economy currently works in a way that botting is near useless since the vast majority of meso comes from bossing crystals, epic dungeon and azmoth

You're just wrong, botting isnt an issue in kms because their account is tied to their social security number, you can't just spin up infinite amounts of bots with no restriction whenever you feel like it in kms like people do in gms, tying a ssn to a gaming account seems pretty drastic, but it really does completely obliterate any chance of botters ruining the game.

KMS economy is also shit, you just don't understand it's true nature, it only works because the game is part of their culture for so long and so many people play it there, but most people don't actually give a shit about being the best or getting stronger in maple, for most kms players, it's just a place to hangout online with friends and screw around, so you have ALOT of casuals who are willing to sacrifice all their prog and sell all their mesos to buy the random fashion items they want etc.

It's a pyramid scheme where the casual noobs in kms are on the bottom farming and funneling all their mesos upward to the whales, do you really think anyone could play this game on x1 meso rates and be able to afford to sf when it takes 8 hours just to grind 1 bil and your making 1 bil a week in boss crystals?

No, im kms you're either a meso buyer or a meso seller, there is very little in-between,

In a game where meso generation is this slow, there has to be winners and losers, for every strong player in kms there are 30 people who make zero gains and all their grinding goes to selling mesos to the whale, it's an absolute shit way to play the game and would never fly in gms, kms is also shit, people need to stop idolizing it, if people actually experienced it they would hate it.

>>543494714
You realize they removed rings from tower of oz because of it literally being botted in KMS? Why the fuck would they introduce the meso cap WHICH THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID WAS TO TACKLE BOTS, when they supposedly don't have bots?

>It's a pyramid scheme where the casual noobs in kms are on the bottom farming and funneling all their mesos upward to the whales
You do realize that KMS has the gold coin system right? The players selling their meso to the whales come out of that transaction with MORE MESOS than they started out with. It's a system designed to benefit both the whales and the regular players. KMS players simply have significantly easier access to both mesos and maple points than GMS players have, and all that without having to grind like a bot using frenzy, purely because they have an actual functional economy.

stop arguing with the schizo and do your dailies

If glassic is based on maple worlds and not just based, I will quit maple 5evr
t. broyals
Also the office got unrangebanned teehee I'm pooping on the clock
WHO DID THIS [THIS]

>>543495442
Just because some bots exist doesn't mean it's on the same industrial scale that exists in gms, yes, some bots do exist, but their servers are not infested with more bots than players, I never said kms is free from bots, it's a difference of extremes.

Tower of oz was instanced which means bots can hide much easier and farm all day unbothered because there are no players around to report them, they probably removed it due to this factor alone and to make their job bot hunting easier.

>Why the fuck would they introduce the meso cap WHICH THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID WAS TO TACKLE BOTS
lol lmao at believing everything that comes out of changslops mouth, their reasons for doing things are NEVER the real reason, or do you actually believe "we had to delete reboot because they couldnt kill limbo on release" was also the real reason reboot got deleted and not because a bunch of loser whales in kms were feeling threatened at people leaving reg for reboot and getting upset about their items losing value.

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halloween event

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>>543485686
ultimate fact nuke is that reboot changes are just a net positive from a community perspective. mostly discourages botting, emphasizes bulers making it feel more lively at low/mid levels, everything you can get from someone requires you to play with them

classic gotta have mushroom shop for mesos or something
it was $10 for one week store

>>543461963
If they are that would really blow, it was nearly $1000 in total to get them. I'd rather just skip it entirely if I can't guarantee the set. :( oh well, at least the hairs look good, I'm gonna make my adele into frieren.

i think my classic nostalgia hype mood is dying off. really wish it came out like 3-4 weeks ago when all i could think about was classic ms

>>543531225
Pretty much yeah, over a year of waiting before it's earliest possible release is fucking crazy. Unless they shadowdrop right at the end of maplefest it's just going to lose any and all hype behind it.

>>543531225
>>543531736
I waited 2 years for classic wow to come out after it was announced, shut the fuck up you little bitches it hasn't even been a year.

>Unless they shadowdrop right at the end of maplefest it's just going to lose any and all hype behind it.
You're still going to play regardless and so is every other osms shitter

>>543394784
holy christ the sia astelle intro is probably the worst into in the entire game, janky time wasting garbage

i think what killed it for me was seeing them bring in literal 1 days of progress in nu-maple retards to test out classic like yeah they're going to ask for the most basic ass shit to be put in what do u expect they are casuals and don't know anything about the game
meanwhile people from pre-bb top 8 first 200s and know the whole drop table are forced to be unkown forever in pservers or pay2win slop like artale

that's who you get to test stuff no one cares about about what p server frog actually thinks

there's no way they're putting in mushroom shops again for 10 bucks a week or 3 buc a day no one will spend that so it's either going to be no trading or auction house

>>543535421
I will, and OSMS shitters will
normalfags won't.
maplestory isn't wow. Maplestory was never the #1 game on the planet that everyone everywhere heard of or played.
maplestory was moderately popular in the west, and there was actual interest in it when it came out, from a lot of different directions because people remember the nostalgia, without the bad shit.
Just like OSRS it will probably come out and take YEARS to be relevant.

>>543536309
also, maplestory's MOST POPULAR pre-bb servers capped out at like 2k concurrent players, over 5 years ago now.
wasn't nostalrus above 10k? lmao, it's just not even remotely comparable. This isn't fucking wow, they cannot afford to try and drip feed content. Look at the fucking youtube videos.
>1m views within a week
>to 800k
>to 500k
>can't even break 500k months on now
still beating main maple but that's not really a challenge it wasn't even hitting 1k on it's videos for a LONG time.

>>543536726
nost was 25k, each wow classic server was only 5k cap with 100 layers(channels) so 500 players max capacity it was something they couldn't get rid of due to nu-wow engine
nost was filled with chink bots but it was all low-key they kept to themselves and silently sold gold or spammed in whispers
classic you already had gold sellers publicly selling and people publicly asking to buy gold and boss carries it was complete slop, zoomers payed for 3 subs and were buying power leveling service with real money over paypal and it died in a year or so now they keep releasing a new "classic" server every 6 months
it's a terrible fate and hope doesn't happen to classic maple

>>543542945
classic is 100% doomed to it, cleric multiboxes will balloon playercounts, 0 doubt, chinks will bot and spanish too, just like they do on interactive and reboot, it's doomed like every other solved version of a game.

>>543543331
it's doomed for any fans of Pre-big bang for sure
but it will be insanely popular with the new gen of classic maplers and everyone who missed out
wow classic was 50-70 servers of 5k capped players so 250k+ online
but it wasn't for fans of vanilla wow, it's all people who missed out on vanilla wow and never played pservers

just learned about genesis pass and the clover shit a couple years ago. ontop of the mvp shit, i feel like within 5 years reboot is going to be fully p2progress. quickly losing all interest to even keep playing. the game is going to be reg server 2.0 by 2030 and redditors will still be saying "they have to monetize us SOMEHOW"
every single game i get invested in turns to shit. every single one.

>>543546479
That's the point, they're not making enough money from reboot, they'll find other ways.

they didn't invent genesis pass to monetize gms reboot specifically you drooling apes it was literally made for kms that's how you know it exists it hasn't even been announced yet
classicposting is so bad dude

repoopers attempt reading comprehension and critical thinking challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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god i freakin love this bunny

>>543547214
clover pass was a directly p2w element introduced to reboot without even a second thought, and though people whined about it, it was still a massive success by nexon's own words and you'd be hard pressed to find a whale that didn't buy the clover pass.
That WAS designed for GMS, fuck off you disingenuous cunt. They're trying to monetize the "monetization-avoidant" server.

no one fucking cares about clover pass we're talking about gene pass now why are you bringing up 3 year old shit like anyone here cares. I don't get how you could be super invested in maplestory and just learn about CW2 today where have you been the last half a year. probably not playing because you already missed the boat on a bunch of things like sauna. or even like, a vac pet. which is basically mandatory anyway cause it's all about solo grinding. it's never been free here homie.
reboot just needs to not have trading and cash cubes to function properly, the game will always be monetized if it really bothers you you can leave it's fine

>>543549094
Because it's been getting worse and worse and they've been testing the waters with just how much they can nickel and dime
are you fucking retarded or something? If you just let it slide because "oh well they've already done x" it won't be long till the game is fucking pay to play.

>ONE THING HAPPENED ONCE YEARS AGO FOR THE FIRST AND LAST TIME IM GOING INSAAAAAANE

it's already basically a subscription game. getting a (single) character into grandis bosses (maybe) 2 months earlier if you're already decent at the game isn't actually a problem. you aren't winning anything and it's skipping over like half decade old time gated progression. if we were skipping destiny weapon lib today (as in today not like 3 years later) or buying stats directly to unlock something that is only available with money people would probably care but it's functionally just a really really nice qol so you can fight seren in a timely manner with len. reception is positive people want more of it

is the ascent skill patch the one that will also introduce automatic cooldown refreshing when entering bosses

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>>543549958
nyo its in the first patch of assemble, aka should be nov 12th

the game moves on and only the new class len can clear the end game content known as ceee tennneee

Why did they not fix phantom in the new kms patch
Why is Impeccable memory still ass
Why is the class worst than most 4th jobs pre 260

>>543549282
It's the last time until it happens again
like those "tests" for paid pass tracks during events.

>>543551847
then why hasn't it happened again then
you the kind of dumbass that prefers being paranoid over nothing rather than being normal?

>>543546632
>poor billion dollar company isn't making enough money
gMS 1/10 of the players but 1/3 of the revenue
it's not the koreans getting scammed by nexon, it's the westerners, but they're too stupid to look at the data and admit it

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>gMS 1/10 of the players but 1/3 of the revenue

>>543552167
Why did it take 3 years for flames to come to GMS? Why did they get nebulites first?
Why does GMS have maple tour still? Why are they getting ride or die? Why does GMS have the only fucked version of potential levels of any version globally?

oh it's this dumbass that's perma stuck in the past for some reason

>>543553032
Nah, you said "Well why haven't they", answer those questions and you get the answer.

>>543553194
yeah i did ask why it hasn't happened again
but tf you mean answer, i'm the one who asked
are you genuinely schizophrenic?
check behind your ears for nexon's hidden surveillance bugs bro

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spending money on things you like is okay
had a good baldrix run today and am excited for the halloween event after reset, im gonna go do a chore or two first and then make dinner

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finished up blaze wizard bosses, grinded 2 hours on main, leveled up, got m3/m4 to max, finished octo's, only got shurrikane 19>30 and im fully max hexa (until ascent) maybe its comfy farming game time (or put in more fence posts outside im doing the backyard as my fall project this year)
thinkin bout what monster they're gonna cook up on stage at maplecon tho I hope its goofy

>>543553498
Damn, you can't even be logical.
>>543553537
Nothing wrong with spending money on things you like, but it's silly to be disingenuous and ignore the growing monetization of heroic.

>>543554719
throwin my 2 cents I guess
there's no growing monetization of heroic when its mainly all copy paste from kms which has a functioning meso to maple points market of about 3k maple points to 100mil mesos (except changesop has been doing crystal nerfs and azmoth nerfs whenever the maple point market gets near 2k
the real issue is gms is fucking lazy as always, and they're trying to pretend they aren't for whatever reason, heroic isn't going to get meso market with their private server tier mesos, but something ideally should be done about all the things costing maple points, but claiming its gms greed is dumb, when its always incompetence
I don't really know what the most suitable answer to the problem is either but you should at least look at it from the correct angle

stinkwell is just here to milk bootie dolphins and tell reg to stfu about frenzy and boot to stfu about badges lmao
>get nerfed
>forced to pay up
this is the cycle maplecucks can't never escape, the sunk cost has turned into straight masochistic abuse

they did something about everything being purchasable with maple points, they created eos and helios
they did not create eos and helios out of spite, they knew the direction development was going and saw that the no trading worlds were creating dark patterns and decided to end the experiment
the west misinterpreted this as malice and spite instead of a long term plan for player happiness

i mean stinkwell ain't doing any nerfs unless ur talkin kanna nerfs or something and generally I still think its just incompetence of them copy pasting msea shit by mistake, even the lynn awaken being 2mins instead of their gms only special of 1min,
and regarding changseop he did say during the live
"he split it into 3months to see changes and adjust
tried new things like changing attack speed
but the end result wasn't satisfactory and it made him look back at him and his teams competency"
I think they are generally just some dudes who obviously don't play the game as much as us but we're not the target demographic either, its always the general pop you cater to as a business
I don't disagree that ripping the band aid off and homogenizing is a way to do it, but they don't talk about how eos and helios maple point markets are separate, and around 1k(ish), maybe 1.5k(?) maple points per 100mil mesos, they're still getting a lesser experience, sure it was stated because making ctene mules was way easier but they just nerfed ctene mules by around 50%, I don't see them merging the meso markets, maybe they will eventually
I don't really get how nexon as a company makes money off of meso market in kms, besides having rmt being bannable (but still happens quite a bit(?) and having the maple points buyable for irl cash
none of that makes any sense in heroic but like what do you do, make it mesos instead? that's just a new meso sink for every event, give some of the rewards to heroic as the standard, give all the rewards of maple point bonuses to heroic as the standard?
I really don't know
albeit shitty rates here I do enjoy not spending a dime in reg for cash shop purchases and or event passes, I don't trust the gms team to be competent enough to try to "fix" our meso market situation either, but also im just some free loader to nexon so they dont care about me I dont spend kek

I know there's not a guild on scania, but is there any way I can get someone here to vouch me in to one, or know someone who can give me an interview? Hit 280 and I'm finally sick of not having guild buffs.

>be hyped for bam 2 min changes
>totems are still annoying and class is still boring as hell
its over
changseop i am ready to be remastered set me free

the idea of reboot being targeted in some way by big nexon when gms is bending over backwards to keep it alive is so forced people are arguing over completely unannounced, non-reboot specific passes to attempt to keep the narrative going
kinda says it all right

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the point of vouching is that i would have to know you anon but i can recommend potatoe, they're nice and in my alliance, if you're not 150m yet they have a jr guild which gets the same gskills mostly

>>543560836
Yeah maybe vouch me in was a bad way of phrasing it, I just mean to introduce me for an MPE run or something so people can see my name and maybe consider the invite.

My main is an over 300m kinesis, just fucking end my life but I do have a 100-something lynn.
I'll look into potatoe though, thank you!

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>black heart expired
>-30mil cp because it gives me pitched 4 set
>arcane shoes went from 19 to 17 after booming 3 times
>still no t7 on wep after all eventslop abyss flames
literally cant win in a game that hate the playa

>>543561645
nothing to say about blackheart but did people stop starring/scrolling on a secondary set of gear or something? You should never star if it's gonna ever leave you lower than you are.

>>543561892
i do have a 22 abso shoe, but i was hoping to finally be full 21 arcanes and then that happened

Here's my projected MSC release schedule, based on nothing but solid guessing, some of it may be true
>It either launches with the November 12th update (unlikely and will probably cause tremendous maintenance, but will give the update a GMS exclusive theme which they love to now) or the December one (possibly bringing back Happyville on the main servers as nostalgia bait)
>Launches with only Victoria Island, mostly Beta content, so up to second job and missing some later additions aside from maybe some later map additions or edits they liked
>During this "Beta" period, account creation will probably be limited in one way or another, either only for existing accounts or accounts of a certain age, but I can also see it being an open beta
>Basically the major "updates" will be fixing shit that's broken and some balance changes if you're lucky, but it's mostly just waiting for them to finish the Orbis/El Nath part
>The servers will then properly "release" during the anniversary update late April/early May, being incredibly similar to the launch version of the game. Sever might not be reset this time, everyone who had a character on it before gets a Mark of the Beta NX cover.
>After that the game will probably follow a similar release schedule to the original game, possibly accelerated but given how the GMS team has historically been I wouldn't hold out much hope
>Don't expect non-KMS content, at least not for a while, and if we get it it will be heavily nerfed or late-game enough that it would be relatively balanced
>Despite protests from dumbasses who expect nothing to be balanced after years of hindsight, it will probably cover from 4th job up to Temple of Time as Pink Bean is way too marketable and the update immediately after adds the Cyggers who are probably the first really good stopping place for them to diverge.
After that it could be anything, old updates (bad), "new" updates (Masteria skin), or just new content entirely.

>>543552395
you're right it's probably less players than that, how many full servers does kms maintain?
the revenue share is straight from their own reports though

>>543563645
I cannot fathom it launches alongside a main maple update. I think december is the absolute earliest.

>>543564074
there's a website that tracks it using api
also "Global Maplestory" probably refers to non-korean maplestory and not gms
just use your brain bro, do you really think the average gmser spends 3x than kmsers, the same people that think it's completely normal to splurge in a "light" $2000 when starting a new mmo despite not knowing if they will continue playing
tms is doing all the heavy work, not gms

>>543564351
The issue is in the investor reports they lump regions together and not necessarily specific games by region.
So, all of global, which includes things like indie sales (dave the diver), the finals, their CYOA mobile games, khazan, etc, is mixed with GMS profits.

>>543564156
I can fathom it, but it seems like a retarded marketing stunt rather than anything that's a good idea. So of course in the update where Inkwell said "yeah we're pulling back on exclusive content to make sure things work and are balanced" there's a possibility they'll say fuck it and implement a borderline experimental server that will cause the exact same type of problem we're been complaining about. This is pessimism, and mostly unfounded, but my whole previous post was the latter so fuck if I know.

>>543564782
I just don't think even in the least thought out times they would cannibalize like that. They're not dumb enough to think normal gms players won't also be playing classic (At least for a while), launching it alongside the new update is pure suicide.

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https://chuchu.gg/statistics/population
>kms population varies from 500k to 300k
what's the gms population
i think it might be over 1/10 of kms

>>543564949
You are correct that it would probably be better as a way too keep interest in the latter half of the update, but there's a couple key things that are worth noting with this specific update. The first part is functionally just Len and Challenger World, then even in KMS the Ascent skills were in the second part which means that if we get the GMS standard delay there's fucking nothing in this part of the event, and the last part is the Adversary boss which will probably hit around Janary-Febuary. This does mean that if they don't have the Ascent skills finished and don't want to roll them out in stages and hope people understand, the entire December update is vacant of content so Classic launching (and the aforementioned potential of Happyville) would be a good distraction.

>nov
len, cw, burning and stuff as usual plus the qol patches
>dec
die or die s3, christmas filler event, possibly blood moon forest
>jan
new year fraggies, ascent and tfa
>feb
balance patch, wh remaster, nightmare paradise/wonderland

>either feb or march
classic public beta, when the update hype begins to fizzle

>>543563645
I would be so bold as to say I just flat out do not expect them to release classic during CW2, much less alongside and directly against it. Bank on March or April imo. Rest sounds reasonable though

>>543566461
all the way till the end of CW2 sounds insanely late, holiday is almost a given if they want to capture any sort of audience, right? No MMO have anything new coming in that whole period. lost ark blew it's load this month and early nov, only other one is rs but they have sailing next year I think.

>>543566681
Maybe not the entire thing but I would be very surprised if they don't give it at least 3 months of clearance

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just learned about classic world, I hope the grind is as fucking insane as back then, that's the only thing I really hope stays the same.

>>543553537
so fuckin spend ur money on something that isnt actively farming your bank account to drain it towards millionaires who sit in 200 story megastructures as they laugh at your willinglness to participiate
i know the battle is lost and the entire industry is only going to get more and more p2w because of people like you, but im an oldfag who experience games before all this shite so i will always be bitter and thats ok. its ok to be bitter about your favorite thing turning to shit. and its ok to hate the people who clap for it turning to shit and fucking WANT it to turn to shit as long as they get to be a part of the exclusive club of spenders
you are gone. you are lost. your soul is compromised and what's worse, you're ok with it as long as you get your slice of (thing). i pity you faggots. i pity you.

>>543569372
That's really one of the bigger questions. Rates in the videos shown so far are all 1x, but that doesn't really mean anything.

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your cosmetic seasonal holiday event sir, with extra no prog items at all

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>>543570665
oh my gosh thank you i love it

>>543570665
my favorite

Any bets on if Azmoth Chasm is coming in the next few updates? Given how KMS focused and job-agnostic the rewards were, it was hard to design something for GMS. However, with the promises of SF fodder and card revamps, now seems like the perfect time to implement it.
>>543570602
I thought I saw some slightly higher EXP on Green Mushrooms or something, but if they balance EXP or drops on certain mobs and mob spawns on certain maps to not be fucking miserable so people can actually grind in more places instead of just the same ones where people get into a KS war that would be nice. That might be something they fix over the course of the sever though.
>>543570665
You underestimate how much people want those masks.

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i keep powering down...i think i'll just main my pallyjiro...

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>>543560112
step into my office and we'll discuss your application

>>543571576
0% chance they have any of that shit smoothed out before launch unless there's a largescale demo/test.
I mean, just being realistic here, there are bot farms ranging in the dozens right now, that nexon's anticheat have 0 effect on.
They will OBLITERATE classic.

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got my halloween effect on

>>543571974
Part of why I speculated earlier about there being a Beta period with a limited userbase (even if it's just "have a Nexon account registered before October 25th" or whatever). If they do so they can
>weed out as many existing bot farms as possible before new ones pop up
>potentially gather data about what they can/should change
which are huge benefits that just launching the game raw can't accomplish.

>>543572379
what hat is that

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>>543572689
just a regular ole cat hood, maybe ill dig out my hallowkitty hat for a few days

>>543572594
I mean they can't "weed out" botfarms, they don't have an active GM presence in game. They have like 10 gms staffing the entire game total. They'd need to hire 40-50, one to sit in each and every channel and properly scope out reports.

>weed out
>bots
lol
best way is to either block vpn or require phone verification (i think dfo uses similar iirc)
as a bonus we kick all the korean booters out and make them seethe into suicide

>>543573075
blocking vpn only works for the largest scale vpns, you can't do shit against residential vpns, even midrange stuff like mudfish or exitlag.
phone and ID verification would be nice but again the chinese don't really care, they will just falsify documentation like they do for KMS.

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>login to legends after a long ass time
>it says my pin is wrong even though I always use the same one on all my accounts
>get permababanned
this is the second time this happens I'm gonna go play on another server.

>>543573832
#stayloyal
#royalsbased

Bros...
I miss Breumi...

>slime
>konosuba
>kny
>frieren
what's next? we don't have a new fotm yet

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What are the crimes officers?

>>543574739
still using that hairband 10 years on.

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i love walking around in the dark!!!

>>543576115
this looks poopy as fuck is it time limited like i gotta do this daily or my balls are bricked

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>>543575591
time flies when you're having fun...haha...

I've been thinking about Auction House VS Free Market for a while now. Like, I get the appeal of the Free Market, but between costing real money and being ass to search for anything it's not good as the only solution. On the other hand, you've got the Auction House, which is super convenient and presumably free, but not only do you lose out on interacting with other players, it's a meso sink to take mesos out of the economy which is great for Nexon and the health of the game but kinda sucks for the user. I think the ideal option would be having the Free Market only being open on weekends, and it probably shouldn't force you to pay NX unless they put it in the Reward Points shop or something (or they include a Meso Market, that could be useful). I'm willing to hear out any other recommendations, if you feel like this will cause some Braess' paradox or fomo bullshit I could see that.

>>543582428
free market moved to trading discords

unironically the best single idea for classic?
classic heroic
you only get equips and scrolls for your class and drop rates highly boosted
but no separate server, you can play with normal players but obviously can't trade or pick up what others drop nor can do the opposite

>>543582428
We unironically had both in game at one point in time, nothing changed from then to now

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I thought we saved her already...

>>543583541
>classic world but no drop game
lmao found the loser who lost the drop game

>>543588158
Sophelia class when?

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hey thanks again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUqFpPj7jOs

>>543574094
How is royals compared to legends?

wait, we can only get ONE mask?
no no no no I thought we could have more, I just went with the first one, I'm bricked, I'm so fucking bricked

>>543593098
i feel dread as well... i did the same thing...

>>543536309
>I will, and OSMS shitters will
normalfags won't.

normal fags don't give a shit about fomoing a 20 year old mmos re-releases release date, if they're interested they know its coming and that's all that matters, the only people peeing their pants over it not being released are obsessed retards like you.

>>543563645
instead of doing all this time wasting mental masturbation trying to predict what will happen with maple classic you should literally just do anything else with your time and wait for the fucking game to just come out retard lmao

>>543569372
The grind wasnt that insane back in the day desu, you were just a dumbass kid who thought doing a 4h grind sesh on a Saturday was a big grind.

The grind FELT insane back then, but the reality is most ppl couldn't handle grinding for more than an hour or two, they didnt even grind everyday, no consistency, they did a bit after school, maybe a few hours on the weekend, these days people grind 12+ hours a day, everyday, all year round.

people are going to run an absolute train on osms and destroy all the content in less than a month and the resulting seething from the nostalgia purists "just enjoying smelling the roses" type mfers will be hilarious just like it was in classic wow.

https://www.nexon.com/maplestory/news/events/31939/escape-the-haunted-mansion
THE PATCH NOTES LITERALLY SAY QUANTITY LIMIT: 80
THEY LIED TO ME

bwo was going to farm 80 sad masks hes got the halloween spirit in him

>he actually believed in what the patchnotes said

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I just wanted one mask for every mule I had, was that too much to ask?

>>543599083
it's also just not a particularly hard grind. once your there it's pretty much just mobbing on one to two platforms unless you have an fma, it's not like you're doing void current 2/3 or something, you aren't going to get tired doing this all you have to do is avoid boredom and your parents kicking you off the family computer. finding a party/map and avoiding excess contact damage are the only things really limiting you but gaining like 1% in 20 minutes isn't even crazy decently late into the game so like, whatever

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>>543600306
algol wrote the patch notes im sowwy
>can you hire someone else to write them please
no

decided to give my sia a 2nd shot, I think I like her now

>>543605504
sia is not bad
she only sucks if you want to train while being half asleep

>>543605921
she's good she's just kinda annoying to play and hurt your eyes

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HEARTBREAKING: mapler about to log off for the night remembers they haven't done culvert yet

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am i doing it right

is gms at the threshold where we clear dojo and culvert and stuff or is that still tms only

no you play lala

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>

>all the merch they're showing off for maplecon
>just letting the regular merch store rot with like 3 trashy acrylic standees and some redbubble tier hats
I will NEVER understand this fascination with "limited drops". I've wanted to buy shit and then it's only available at some exclusive convention or half way across the planet, you know what happens after? I just don't buy it, or anything. I missed out on what I want, why would I ever buy again knowing I didn't get the things I wanted? lmao.
What fucking weird choices when they could be making money.

bwo needs the $70 inkwell plushie to glaze with cum

>>543626589
Nah, I'd have liked to buy one of the like 20 different kinds of deskmats they've had, adele, damien, heroes, one of the 5 pink bean ones, etc, but they just never sell them outside of conventions. It's such a weird fucking choice to then advertise that they're selling it, but only at this convention.

>>543625587
Making merch for maplecon is probably the one job the cms had all year, give em a break

>>543634276
That's just it, it isn't even new shit. The orange mushroom neon has been at multiple of the KMS popups. The 20th anni one I think might be unique.
The only "unique" stuff is the little perler lanyard things.

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I, for one, can't wait for the exclusive maple merch

>>543645258
chat is this real?

it has the logo, and the hangul
looks isreal to me

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>not the child version
dropped

>keep failing the mansion due to some anomaly I can't even spot
Wtf bros? Exit 8 took place in a simple well-lit hallway and it still took some effort. Who thought it would be a good idea to do the same thing in a dark mansion with all kinds of details everywhere?

new wh mine setter looks like shit, should've just kept hunting assistant unit

it'd be kinda funny if they added red moon forest and made normal malitia a cw2 boss

it's been TWO YEARS since 6th job
why are they still so stingy with frags?
why are frags still untradable?
why are we still stuck with the 3k daily mobs and not the weekly?

>>543673428
because they saw how opening things up worked for 5th (turned it into a joke and everyone has a trillion nodes at any time)
they want it slow because 6th is supposed to be a big bump up in power, and it really is and has been so far.
Also it's like one of the few things you can actually grind in kms so no shit they won't touch frags.

>>543673629
well I was talking more about gms
it's funny how in reg fraggies are worth dirt and even dropping more and more while in heroic we gotta beg nexon not to put just the sol erda as rewards

>>543673428
i just think of frags like how i thought of nodestones post-nerf

>>543673821
That's my point, it's because that's how KMS does it.
you don't think they actually do anything special for heroic do you?

>>543673942
just the release on the dumb untradable lock and the weekly change would be a big help
also they could create a ui to convert sol erda into frags since nexon won't bother changing sol erda reward into selector coupons just in gms
it's been two years so idk why there hasn't been any qol changes

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frags became tradable a while ago, actually! you can come back to the game now
i've been very enjoying funding 2nd main hexas by just training on main!!!

>>543674289
Because.
KMS.
Doesn't.
Do.
It.

>>543674453
bro
are you actually not getting the point?
kms no longer has reboot so it's ONLY gms heroic that has the stupid restriction
kms doesn't have the frag daily and it's overseas maple exclusive but ONLY gms still has the stupid daily since both tms and sea are now weeklies
ONLY gms heroic suffers from being bottlenecked by frags

i'm pointing these out specifically BECAUSE these are gms-exclusive issues
why are you even mentioning kms

>>543674891
because they are issues precisely because kms doesn't have reboot and inkwell can only solve 1 issue a year.

tradable frags, erda weekly, and frag conversion will be announced at maplecon, trust the plan

simplest way to improve (obviously not fix, reg is unfixable) reg
>implement meso cap
>buff boss crystals
ur welcome mr inkwell nexon

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Are there any cuties in your alliance?

does anyone know of a keyboard with software that allows remapping only when a specified window is active, like autohotkey allows?

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im going to have a nap until reset i think someone come to my house and gently wake me up in about 90 minutes please

maplecon will change gms as we know it

>>543599083
>>543603817
I played a 1x private server some time ago. It only took a week to get to 2nd job, and two weeks later I was near level 50. This was from straight grinding, no PQs or quests or anything.
I wasn't no-lifing it, either. I have a job and adult responsibilities to tend to. So I imagine that NEETs with nothing better to do would make significantly faster progress than I could.
The grind (the early grind, at least) isn't as bad as people remember. Kids are just stupid and impatient. Looking at the Classic trailers again, some of the HP and EXP values from monsters seem to have been adjusted, so who knows what it'll be like.

>wh nerf
>ds nerf
>phantom nerf
lets GOOOOOOO

>>543697513
>So I imagine that NEETs with nothing better to do would make significantly faster progress than I could.
I'd assume 1 day for a dedicated NEET
for a casual NEET probably 3 days
30-35 probably would take roughly similar time too
>The grind (the early grind, at least) isn't as bad as people remember
Yeah I agree, 1-30 was not bad
30-35 felt like hell for most jobs though (unless we get like CPQ)
36-50 was great if you had LPQ (up until ~42), but without LPQ... it felt like hell until ~37 or 40ish for most classes
51-70 was just an endurance test
71-75ish i think was the next hell levels without someone higher leveled than you partying with you
76-90 wasn't bad
91-100 endurance test 2.0
101-120 is partying with someone higher leveled than you or it is just an endurance test 3.0 for 101-110 before you can kind of just... turn off your brain and grind to 120
>some of the HP and EXP values from monsters seem to have been adjusted
true, though i hope they adjusted the PQ exp more than just the mobs

>>543697418
it's called maplecon because everyone's getting conned

its called maplecon because its where all the maple lo- no i shouldnt say it

>>543704140
it is definitely a complex

>skipped bossing
>got a survey on game close
ITS TIME BWOS
IM GOING TO PITCHED CITY

Despite having several posts in this thread about Classic, I don't really think I'll enjoy it much. Like, the core gameplay of a lot of classes is kind of ass for anyone that likes shmovement or being able to hit more than one enemy relatively quickly. But I'll probably just play it to experience the old maps, pre-BB Victoria Island has a lot of neat maps that were replaced with nothing platforms, even if nice looking maps are rarely good grinding places (and even then they cut a bunch of those).
Also, what class are you playing? I assume nobody is going to play FP or the much worse Paladin, but every other class is at least playable in one way or another even if it's IL or Marksman level of "there too". If my friend is going to play I know they love supports so I'll probably go DK as that's great for Bishop up until 4th job and let's be real we're not getting 4th job until either next winter or summer depending on how fast they do it (I'm betting on summer 2027 personally but who the fuck knows).

>hat to 200
>strawberry farm to 235
>pop a vip+farm to 240
>something idk
>at least 1 mag pot to finish out 250
>7 MPs+river dailies+the rest of the vips to finish out day 1 260
is day 1 270 doable though?

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halloween maplestory!! wow!!!!

>>543711880
>strawberry farm to 235
The maximum 6 you get will probably get you to 225, unless the Challenger World buff is way better than I remember it being
>pop a vip
Given this event basically gives out 11 free boosters every day that will help a lot, but I will say I dunno how ass the drop rate is on them
>7 MPs+river dailies
That's like 30%
>is day 1 270 doable though?
Unless you're a hardcore grinder probably not, maybe on Interactive Challenger somebody can feed you WAPs to make it slightly easier

week 1 270 probably winnable if you max buy the exp bonus from dungeon and spike a cor from rod3
we did day 2 260 before and it was fine, if a little sweaty at the end

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just gotta high roll some diamond treasure chests

>>543711804
f/p got giga buffed with 3 hit fire arrow

>>543714597
That will probably involve grinding it out a lot, but even with some dogshit chest luck you're still going to be better off than fucking Fritto portals, what a waste of time.
>>543715632
You're right that they'll probably do some balance changes, even if I'm not sure what. Unfortunately it probably won't be enough unless the changes are more extensive than I think, but at least if you do want to play FP it will be slightly less miserable.

idk what i'd do with day 1 270 anyway it probably doesn't matter too much

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I too am going to take it easy and not burn out

>>543717691
Take your time, it's not like hitting 270 in the first week will make you clear that many bosses that much faster. You've probably still got to get Arcane Umbra shit before you even think of taking on Kalos, the first boss where that level would matter.

you just push early for the compounding effect of dailies basically, all that extra exp & symbols from being the "main" char really adds up
i'll be pushin to 270 early on mainly cus I want erda and to raise up senpaitachi, I do intend to go for 280-285 in cw leisurely, so im not gonna leap out early im just gonna milk out that mpe assuming we dont get fucked on event stats or something

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uh oh
korean players are vocal about the new patch and they are not happy

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selling rice became much more difficult, now you whale or perish

>>543717005
I mean if you ever played a f/p before the only thing holding them back is 2nd job being 1 hit only. Fire arrow is by no means a weak skill though. With its 3 mob count its probably going to be the only 2nd job capable of both mobbing and one shotting White Pangs and easily farm rare drops at yetis which are bad exp for most classes.

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kronosbros...its finally over

Maplecon waiting room

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me & u at maplecon

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got the luska set for len and she can have it as a cw2 graduation present
shouldve got mp before they shadowdropped the uniqubes announcement but we ball

that doesn't fit at all

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thats okay lara's just making sure its not too snug (she wears the same size as len)

the sword looks cooler with gun-type weapon holding

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please look at this jenny

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>

>TMS and KMS both holding mesoranger events at the same time
what did they mean by this

>>543754168
mesoranger events and themes have always been popular in just about every version of maple EXCEPT gms.

do you guys actually gear up all of your legion characters? Most of mine are at bare minimum, I would just level them up from bonks and stuff, but I was thinking about maybe working on getting them to a baseline recently.

>>543574640
Solo leveling

>>543765234
I think dungeon meishi will probably be a better fit for maple.
Solo leveling would have some good pets but that's really it.

>>543754168
watch gms just fuse those into one

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forgot there was maint today, comfy farming game woohoo

>>543761386
No, that would be a colossal waste of time and barely give you any legion power increase for the amount of effort it would take.
I will give a character basic bitch gear when I level it to 250 in monster park or a with a hyperburn and thats is.
Stop thinking up new ways to drone and go wap on your main.

>>543778574
My main is 290 now, I'm just trying to think of ways I can improve my interactive lineup, honestly, since maple points are clearly the most important resource going forward, I need to have a roster that can get me at least 1b a week, but I only get like 150~ coins a day so I can't even cheap out with exp tickets unless I only play once a week.

I've got 760 million raid power, I make 600 coins a day, its mainly just high level geared mules that contribute the most compared to low level mules in starred empress or whatever

>>543779424
Most of my mules are literally just 0 gear 200s from challenge world, I have a couple 260s there I got 6th job on (ilium and a mo xuan since they're my mains on kronos) to do bossing, but even with both of them geared to like ~25mcp I'm struggling. Although I can do nluwill on both (hlucid on my ilium easily) I struggle with higher. I mean, normal tenebris I guess but that's not anything.

>>543771572
they'll do ranger inkwell and lim

>>543779180
You get legion power from levels more than gear and any gear you put on a lvl 200 character probably wouldnt really make a difference.

Maybe just monster park a bunch of characters to lvl 235, thats what I did with my lomien mules because having all 6 symbols give you more combat power than gear at that level of investment ever could.

Also I didn't know you were in interactive so maybe you can't monster park it could be worth putting cheap gear on them idk.

BRO?
your legion champion?

>>543779586
brother, hit the wap, do events, you're never going to get stronger sitting at 260, i literally got a character to 280 doing nothing but checking in and collecting event rewards, wtf are you doing to have your mains still at 260 for so long?

well I think hes a kronos main and hes got interactive characters to make maple points, makes sense to me, but yeah you gotta learn how to gear up and progress in interactive basically (settle for less than perfect)
if ur in bera idm giving you a bunch of arcanes, I have 6 ctene mules over in bera

>>543780495
Oh right, mb I understand now didn't realize he was playing both.

>>543779586
Couldnt you just wap on frenzy to make meso?
If your goal is just 1b a week then just pop 1 wap a week.

You could also use reward points from kronos to buy reward point cubes in interactive and service sell them to make like 1b a month i think?

>>543781219
not without tons of vouches, and not outside of the bera trading discord. That interactive bossing discord is basically a free ticket nowadays, carry some losers and they'll get you in.

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im in the bera trade discord, haven't used the interactive bossing discord but im in there too I think, not really interested in over specced runs, maybe I could find a hseren or nkalos for my 130mil night walker but ehh, probably considered too weak kek (276, 310 sac still need 40 more for nkalos and ideally 280 anyways), just not gonna bother until I wanna solo every week, at least for hseren
I saw a smega yesterday of a dude lookin for hwill liberation duo and I check and bros like 100mil combat power brah

>>543783532
the bossing discord is like 75% MPE runs, 20% BM carries/runs/trades, and then 5% people actually looking for other bosses/content.

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bros, I'm so hyped for maplecon, there is too much on the line, there is no way they'll disappoint

>>543784850
I think the way it's laid out says it all, classic is clearly the "big thing", for the event, winter update will probably focus pretty heavy on "WE LISTENED LOOK LOOK CHALLENGE WORLD IS SLIGHTLY LESS BALLBUSTING LOOK" and len, and whatever the gms exclusive content is (since we know there's something because they're making a monster earlier in the day).
My money is on "unique" christmas event and probably ride or die s3.

I expect no real change or meaningful announcements for gms itself, just classic.

There's a lot of little things that could be there though, CW2 and Len are like the obvious guaranteed stuff but there's still
>QOL from that inkwell note, probably the most important long term, is supposed to be on this update. Any other unannounced QOL too
>confirm/deny on the Lian Plateau since there's no info for GMS around it yet and that's around when it would be coming
>any other GMS only stuff like RoD3 or Erel or whatever could get a timeline

>>543787825
I mean, it's an hour long. Q&A is like 20 minutes, the trailer based on older ones will probably be 10-15 minutes, and I expect the remaining time to be discussing and hyping up len and ascent.

yeah the 30* changes should be this update, as well as their pitch pity system(?), be it coins or something to do with the pitched box in kms, I would hope it would be a lot more accessible if they went that route though, a selector preferably
level 3 links, familiar revamps, item rental system, lots of stuff they could talk about

game's up
also they fixed all the descriptions for mo xuan and kanna
and fixed netherlands people being able to access meso market, fucking cunts.

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and yeah I didn't think about it but the making a monster panel already soft confirms there will be some kind of gms unique content in the winter update that isn't just CW2 already

yea rod3

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i hate classic so much its unreal, see you there soon
- love kaxax
get to level 30 in classic maplestory and unlock this permanent bath robe nx!!!