Previous Thread: >>541377520 Tenth Anniversary edition.>Life is Strange(LiS) - An episodic narrative adventure game by developer Don’t Nod (DN). Set in the fictional coastal town of Arcadia Bay, Oregon, it follows Max Caulfield, a shy, awkward photography student who discovers she can rewind time and—perhaps more urgently—that she’s very, very gay. At the heart of the story is Max’s reunion with her estranged best friend, the rebellious, blue-haired Chloe Price. Their bond becomes the game’s pulsing queer core as they unravel the mystery of Rachel Amber’s disappearance. What begins as a teenage reconnection blooms into a messy, tender queer odyssey about grief, desire, and the impossible choices we make for the people we can't truly live without.LiS Series Steam Page https://store.steampowered.com/curator/36149206>Lost Records: Bloom & Rage(LR: B&R) – A spiritual successor to the original Life is Strange, made by Don’t Nod (DN). Set in Velvet Cove during the summer of 1995, it follows Swann Holloway and her chaotic, brilliant queer friends, Nora, Autumn, and Kat, as they form a band, fall recklessly in love, and try to carve out a space for themselves in a world that keeps trying to erase them. But something terrible cuts their youth short, and 27 years later, they return to face what was buried. It’s a hazy, haunted, heartbreakingly queer story about girlhood, memory, music, and the kind of love that doesn’t fade, even when everything else does.Steam Page : https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902960Discussion of the Lis Extended Universe, recently announced TV adaption, and other similar games is welcome!Reminder: Do not respond to tourists from /v/
The anniversary fanzine is also there, go and take ithttps://lis-tarotzine.carrd.co/
>Never believe that the anti Chloe trolls are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.>But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Chloe have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.>They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
>Be Deck Nine>Get a contract with Square Enix to make LiS games>Make Before the Storm, a prequel centered around the popular character of Chloe Price and her relationship with Rachel Amber as told by the first game>It respect Chloe's character, with even a bonus DLC episode with her and Max as kids>Successful enough to grant them other works and grow as a company>Make Double Exposure, a sequel long requested by Square to cash on Max's nostalgia>Shat on Chloe's character development and her bond with Max, trying to replace her with D9's shallow OCs>It bombs so badly it starts a domino effect leading to D9's downfall as a gaming company>still contractually obligated to push out a DE2 despite crunch, lack of manpower, constant layoffs and the looming shutdown of the company
fake and gay thread. sage
>>543485259Elope
What would you do in this situation?
It’s kinda pathetic to make another thread an hour later because a non franchise game is in the OP. Bake sooner next time or make your own general about LR. Jannies will eventually delete this too because the other thread was first.
>>543487202DE was a 30 million dollars disaster and its actively killing a game studio on top of permanent brand damage to Life is Strange, so as much as you glaze yassified Max making out with a knock off Pucca, you can't replace soul with slop
>two threads at the same time>one is fanarts and fluff>the other is DEfags spiteposting How did /lisg/ fell so low? They really killed the franchise if they only people willing to talk are three low IQ slop consuming idiots
>>543488257lisg fell super low ever since alfie left 4chan as a whole (the og op from 2015)
>>543488257They never gave a shit about the franchise, its all about trolling an seething
>>543488257>>543488570Ever since Double Exposure came out everything just went to hell. It killed everything. All we can hope for now is that the tv series can be used for a reboot
>>543488683I am curious, how's the lisg discord server nowadays? Does it even exist anymore?
>>543488257This one has Pricefieldfags spiteposting too. The whole general is cancer. That’s why I stopped using them as everyone was annoying. I only just came on here because I wondered why there were two threads and it’s literally due to anons fighting. This place is just reddit 2.0.
>>543488773All LiS discord servers are filled with infighting and mods on steroids. I think that server died a few years ago.
>>543481745Come to the true thread, the one that was posted first. Imagine making a whole other thread because you’re mad in a non franchise game isn’t included in the OP, you seethe>>543479271>>543479271>>543479271
>>543489083Fixed
>>543489363That really makes no sense anon. The text is correct
>>543488773Wait, a /lisg/ discord existed in the first place?
>>543489127You seethe anon, enjoying jerking your cocks in the Double Flop thread
>>543488790>muh reddit its not too bad desu
>>543489625They know it makes no sense, the point is they only are active to seethe and troll, such behaviour is striking similar to the Legion folks who used to shitpost back in the days
>>543488257I guess people are trying to regain their mental health after DE fiasco and waiting for some news about DE2.I can't blame them, really. Shame that barely anyone celebrated yesterday's anniversary by playing the game. Less than 500 players on steam... Come on
>>543489889Still more relevant to the franchise than flop records
>>543490306It's quite obvious this is so undertone because of DE and Square's lack of care to even celebrate the anniversary, one anon even said it felt like they had no idea how to proceed because they roped themselves into the idea of DE being that massive success it never wasIt could have been so different if they actually made the two timeline mechanic relevant to the Bay and Bae split rather than D9's pet OC
I want to know what happened to this game. Wasn't it supposed to relase this year?
>>543490712Why a slop that killed D9 should be relevant in the first place?
>>543491363On one hand, there is a lot to indicate that someone at SE knew that the game would be controversial. Not sure why they even decided to ship it. They could only do this once.
>>543492403But they still roped into two games at the same time because they believed it would have sold well and got popular due to Max alone, they even have a Caledon guidebook to be relased next year, clearly someone did wanted this game to be a successpic related
>>543492842No doubt about that, and it was clearly a reboot. They just wanted Max, the rest was just meant to be background stuff
>>543493439Which leaves us to the question, what they are going to do with DE2? D9 is going to be gone soon and they'll have to recruit a new studio to work on new projects, assuming they want to pursue the LIS1 remake thing to capitalize on the TV show
What's anons opinions about Cassidy?
i need the original source of this claim
>>543496282I could believe the distribution thing since they really release this to no fanfare.But the rest feels like BS. Demoting their franchise to digital only and removing options do not feel right. Just cancel the game at this point.(though SE removing dubs in a main franchise isn't unheard of)
>>543498776Agree it reads like BS, but let's be real SE is not stranger to dumb decisions, like selling off the Tomb Raider IP for pennies and trying to cash in the NFT fad. They also do not care much about LIS so I'd say if it is bullshit, its not too far fetched
>>543498776I really do think that the coming TV series is what's keeping the series alive
>>543499081The best kind of BS or the most frustrating.Stupid enough to be real.Don't even know anymore with SE.
>>543500132It's definitely a good bullshit, because it lines up with how SE has been so far with their bullshit decision making, props to the anon who crafted it
>>543500107That, and portfolio diversification.SE is mainly known for RPGs, but publishers need some other things on the side. Like Foamstars and Killer Inn.But yeah, the TV series could revive the IP if things go well and if SE makes the right call. Big if.
>>543500107The future of LIS is tied to this guy, whenever you like or not
>>543500545And that is just true, this guy will save or break LiS
>>543500545My guy spent ten years trying to make that TV series. He deserves the benefit of the doubt at the very least.
>>543500762Him, Charlie Covell, Nick Pepper and all the other folks at Lucky Chap seems to have a respectable and well liked by audience pedigree with all the shows and movies they have been involved with. But they still have to deal with SE bullshittery
>>543500525>like Foamstars and Killer InnWhat's the point of diversifying if they put low effort shit like those?
>>543501001I really don't think SE will have that much influence on the series at this point. IP holders generally don't unless they're funding it themselves.
>>543501291I do think they still want to influence the series through focus groups, but you make a good point given that Amazon is the one putting the money to produce it
>>543501130The same point that's making SE pumping shitty mobile games and closing them after 6 months.One could be a success and make big money.Plus, investissors like catch words.
>>543502179there's only so much you can repeat this trick when the investors realize that something is not going in the right direction
>>543500545I am fine with that, he honestly deserves our gratitude
>>543489625I think the joke is Chloe wasn't even in de which is why the pic was removed
>>543501291I think SE is the only thing that can sink this show. There is so much talent attached
Emma as Max?
>>543509523Physically she wasn't, but the way she was treated was far worse than what Max got in Before the Storm
>>543509903Unironically great cast, but she would need an equally good actress that can work well as Chloe to top it off
I guess DE2 is releasing later than I thought if they're doing playtest soon.But at the same time, D9 has less and less devs so I don't even know if they can make adjustments following the playtest.
>>543513320No idea what's going on with DE2.
>>543513320Maybe the original plan was a relase in 2025, but so far it seems like the project might be a huge mess, if they started production just right in early 2024 when DE1 was mostly complete
>>543513657Well, yeah, we saw that dev resume and I guess in their fantasy world where DE was a success, 2025 DE2 was money.And even so, it's such a short dev time and the first game was already a mess filled with bugs.
>>543509903Yes! She would be
>>543514076Aysha literally spilled that DE2 was within half the time and even less people they had when they started DE in 2021-2022. Honestly, the 7 hours playtime speculation might even be too generous
>>543515801Maybe DE2 is a BTS like experience. Low budget, 3 episodes, reusing all the existing assets.
>>543519715BtS wasn't developed in such stressful conditions, with less talented devs and digshit morale due to layoffs and stuff
>>543493996New studio but SE is still the same bunch of cretins. At least it seems like they comprehend what kind of mess they got themselves into.Maybe the show will actually be a new beginning for this franchise. Although at this point it should have already ended with a great theatrical summary of Max's journey.But no, lmao avengers o'clock
>>543500107It's going to be on Amazon Prime?I don't like the idea of subscription only for this show
>>543519715And mostly unnecessary
>>543524492Yes, and just pirate it
>>543524618At least, bts got me the music from before the storm vinyl.
>>543519715It's going to be short, x-men inspired and Chloe is not going to be in it to any noticable degree. If she was they would have mentioned it. There is literally nothing to be gained from keeping that information secret.
>>543527012The game isn't even officialy announced lolBut yes, I don't think Chloe plays a part in it, at most she'll be an option for bae Max at the very end.But hey, maybe this time someone will brave the NDA and spill some goods.
When are the good people of London and LA playing the new game? Just share it with us. D9 is going under anyway
>>543527304Without doubt. They would have mentioned it. That one interview with the VA of Max, I forget her name. It was posted here. She mentioned possibilities the future and how in this game it was about Safi and Max. But if the game was split in two.... there's never going to be more games
>>543527858London october 27th-30thLA november 3rd-6thLast time, people kept their mouth but hopefully this time...I wanna know, maybe they turned LiS into Battlefield or something.
>>543529449They should take a couple of lessons from BF6 regaining the graces of the fanbase, even if very safely kek
>>543529152You never know. Personally I think Square has already written DE2 off and will send it peacefully to die while working on the next steps for the franchise.I'm a pretty optimistic person!
>>543529863Writing the next steps means they'll have to find a new studio willing to work for them in LIS games, because they aren't going to build a new one from the ground up.
>>543530108And there are a lot of studios looking for contracts, especially now in this situation where studio closes left and right and devs are laid off.Don't Nod themselves are open to work on others IP.Working with SE is tiring but at some point, they can't keep making the same mistakes. .....right?
Based true /lisg/.
>>543529863I mean, this is genuinely puzzling. No one forced Square Enix to release the game, it clearly needed more time. But I get it. After spending 30 million and getting so little in return, they probably just wanted to cut their losses. Still, the next game is only going to hurt the series even more and likely sell poorly. Why even release it? They really should just cancel it. The story will probably be just as bad, Chloe will be reduced to a footnote, and people will be upset all over again. It’s honestly baffling how inept their decisions have been. All they’d have to do is cancel the game, pay the penalty, and wait for the reboot tied to the series. If the show is a hit a remake would sell like hotcakes.
>>543531187You see how much better this general feels after the DEfags have been outsted out? It's so refreshing
>>543531904Brand damage is a thing, and SE should have people who understand that, people who are paid a lot of money to understand it.
>>543531904Those types of contracts can be really nasty!The penalty fee could be huge.Or D9 could sue Square Enix for exemple, if they don't play nice.Square hopes for one of those two things for the playtests : it goes really well and maybe the game won't flop as bad as DE. It goes really bad, SE asks for changes but D9 closes its door without finishing making it. Freedom.
>>543534257How huge?
>>543534257Square should know already what needs to be changed, they held those focus groups for a reasons back in December and March. This is more of a trying to see if it is worth shipping or not, and given all that happend
>>543534745Can't say without seeing the proper contract but that's usually multiple millions dollars.Enough to save D9 for some time lolIt's easier to cancel an internal project.
>>543535618But even if they got a lot of feedback, there was no time to change anything. And D9 are losing people by the month. How could they possible to mayor plot changes after feedback? Do they even have a mocap studio anymore?
>>543535618True! But doing this is also protecting them from D9 attacking them for bad faith. SE is doing just enough to show they're in.And if SE has something, it's good lawyers lol
>>543536084Their last mocap director, Zachary Andrews, was spotted asking for jobs offering in the seattle area and has rewrote his Linkedin bio with D9 in the past, other folks are leaving including the one responsable for management and pipeline development
>>543535618The real question is, who’s actually going to buy it? If even 60% of the people who bought Double Exposure buy the next game, it’ll still be a massive flop. It’s definitely not going to reach 100%, and it’s unlikely to even match Double Exposure’s numbers. The potential audience is already tiny. And as pointed out already, if Chloe were going to play a major role in the next game, they would’ve hinted at it by now. It would’ve been an easy win. So they have no easy wins in the next game. They will have to carry it on Max and whatever stuff she and Safi are going to do
>>543537174I honestly think Max and Safi are going to be a thing. They clearly thought that would be way more popular than it turned out to be. Aysha is a dull writer, her previous work has no subtlety at all. She doesn’t care about Pricefield. She was the lead writer for about a year and a half, and as she said herself when they won that award, Deandra handled most of Double Exposure, while the next part is hers. So don’t expect anything deep, just a lot of horny writing focused on Max and Safi. There’s a reason Stauder was so proud of Aysha. He really thought she’d save them with Safi.
>>543538147Considering she was laid off halfway through DE2 I hope at least some of the remainder of the dev team did some last minute changes, even if I don't really expect that much
>>543538707Got no hope at all. I just hope it will not be as bad as I fear
The other tread is just them posting old stuff again. Coming over here. Most of the trolls seems to over at the other tread anyway
>>543542189I have no hope either, in fact I expect an hack job trying to pleasure both sides and failing at being a coherent storyline
>>543543440That sounds like karma
>>543543848They really need to make her the star of the next game
Most people who liked DE picked Bay. Most people who liked DE did not like LR? True or false?
>>543544027I think we'll see her, she'll be near 50 and badass.I really think the next game is about a new band of girls and they'll investigate the disappearance of Swann, with the help of the bloom and rage cast not in the abyss.
>>543542189>>543543598I think people should lower their expectations. Double Exposure was their attempt to please everyone, and we all saw how that turned out
>>543543848There are some really good fan stories about her out there. Anyone got some recommendations?
:3
>>543544236Yes, Lost Records is kind of dying though. It will not stand the test of time. And I understand why. The game was fine, but too little happened. But I read that they basically ran out of money.
>>543543848She's so god damn fine
>>543509903It all hinges on the Chloe casting.
>>543495805Underrated. Best character in the game and should have been the main character.
>>543544430In that case they know what they have is a poorly written turd that's going to flop anyway, might as well have canned it and paid a fine>>543545020It's more like they started with a little budget and still wanted to put it all as great looking as if they had a proper one, the only way LR can thrive is if they capitalize on the additional marketing content, but that also depends on DN's economic capabilities, since they had to crowfund to even give out a plushie of that Jusant thingie
>>543544956Have you tried to use Blender, bananon? It's a lot better tool than Daz with the light and stuff
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>>543552714She has the chop of being a very important character if we get a LR new game, dunno if she could work as a MC
>>543558072I'd like to see Dylan and Kat meet again.
>>543557282I woulds other anon but not all the models are ripped yets
>>543561383You have adult Nora, Swann and Autumn, guess you can arrange something with them at least
>>543481745happy anniversary
>>543509903Usually I'm not a radical about "well you have to play the game first", but in this case i'm gonna have to agree. In the wrong hands, if you don't play the game LiS can look like a CW drama. An adaptation lives and dies with having a good cinematographer and actually capturing the aesthetic
>>543566575They should hire Raoul Barbet, the unsung hero of the first LiS.
>>543576025sex with kate marsh
>>543577447No, Kate is pure.
Lucy the lover of AI is back in Colorado. This is the second time this year
>>543600678Please give us some closure soon
>>543600678Shouldn't have registered all the video she needs? What elese would she miss?
>>543612654Max would be a toddler when 9/11 happened kek
>>543607125Your best bet is leaks from the playtests.Just need one pal.Then again, you'll get "leaks" but you'll never know if they're real or not.
>>543614772There was the geoloc anon who tracked down where Hannah was in Denver, and even alleged to have talked with two people who went to the focus groups,but he hasn't reappeared yet. Wish he would just spill the beans at this point, its not like DE2 is that great masterpiece that can save D9 from certain bankruptcy
How are the DEfags doing in the fake thread? I have to say it's been a lot nicer here once they went away
>>543618259>To treat it as a subreddit/echochamber without the upvotes and the benefit of anonymity. With embarrassing attempts to "correct" an anon's thinking regarding headcanons and all that trite. Every time you stray away from their narrative they'll always say you're a tourist, bad faith actor and/or you never cared for the series lmao.>Kinda wild that this is what got them into such a mess. The DE meltdown was inevitable because of it tooThinnest skinned motherfuckers I've ever seen
>>543615217Probably gonna be some leaks soon
>Funniest part is they're not posting LR at all today. Confirms it was just a DE spiteposting tool hereLR lives rent free in their heads, its like they have to prove DE is the superior game even if it pretty much fucked over the IP and lost 30 million dollars
They are full on schizoposting. Apparently one Dontnod employee/dev who worked on TellMeWhy, LR and DE is now the same as Michel was involved with the mess of DE Pure nonsensical spite rambling>>543618925Fucking hope so, at least we would have something worth laughting at
What the fuck was his problem?
>>543619384Dude had the hottest gal in town, was in line for the ranch and he just couldn't play it safe and cool. What a loser.
>>543619965he was an ass person desu
How would you feel if LiS trade its choice based DNA for a more puzzly, point & clicky one?
>>543619147I agree with keeping it only LiS games, but that just got weird
>>543626740That's a very interesting question. Usually those games are very niche in scope, but they offer a lot more variations on what you can do with them due to the relatively small budget. LIS could very well within that genre, think of it like those old Monkey Islands, Syberia ect...
>>543627416They never really cared about LIS, and they even get mad when it gets pointed out lol
>>543627660I was totally thinking about Syberia!I liked the last one, it had some feels. Now do that without burying the gays in the first chapter and we're talking.
>>543615217that guy was cada my guy, you can find several playtesters in pricefield discord because they outright glaze themselves for spending 12h at square enix>>543600678>>543608824she's on holiday, not work related
>>543629076Cada is too dumb to do that style of analysis, and she also would put her name first bragging about it
>>543626740It would be a improvement in every possible way. People would love a bunch of Max and Chloe games. People keep saying the choices are important. They aren't, the choices are merely a vessel for making you feel. You can do that without choices.
Meanwhile, things are moving a bit at Square London.Their global brand manager left. She worked on the cancelled outriders 2 and the cancelled just cause mobile. Her last work is the release of ps1 games Gex and Fear Effect with limited run games.She was also managing powerwash simulator, and they don't have that anymore.That's a gloomy list indicative of the current state of SE London.
>>543630318Is Kiryu-san finally going to do the right thing and cut heads off at London?
>>543630130And since choices in D9 LiS games barely mattered and they didn't even respect them game to game, just cut them and make a better story, yeah.
>>543630584Some are well ingrained there since the Eidos days. Cleaning takes time.
>>543629770idk, I am too lazy to check the dates to see so I will just pretend is cada pretending to be some mysterious anon (would it really surprise you if cada had double personality disorders?)
>>543630318it isnt just SE london anon, SE NA exists and they are fully supportive of DE - they organized special streams in that regard after DE released with Olivia and Blu, yet the main social medias of lis didnt even bother announcing it
>>543631031they did so much weird shit with consequences in ep5 motel room, it makes 0 sense that entire TV audio section
>>543631753It was another anon, she is just not that bright to do that type of research>>543631876I remember those, it was still the period when they were trying to sell DE, but the marketing was completely disorganized and before it became clear the game was a flop, the stream with those two was even a flop because barely anyone watched it, only Adnan reposted what they were saying there lolMy favourite piece is when they showed some behind the scene footage of the Alderman sequence at a random ass german conference barely anyone knew
>>543632176that was germany SE that organized a fancy event with a bunch of content creatorsas for the SE NA stream, Olivia kinda dropped spoilbombs saying she got to read a lot of cast sheets from previous games & how it interwines to Safi's story and also that she was actively meeting with Hannah daily
>>543632439>Olivia kinda dropped spoilbombs saying she got to read a lot of cast sheets from previous games & how it interwines to Safi's storyWtf does that means?
>>543632514Safi's adventures - the game (DE2). I don't have a timestamp when she says it but stream vod is still up.>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2329191038
It's weird how much they banked on Safi become this massively popular character, same as Moses, and yet nobody seems to care enough apart from the occasional gooner, and most of that is her being attractive. That Caledon guidebook only make sense once you understand SE's retardation in believing DE would have made money
>>543633529the guidebook is weird too, why would they take so long to release it even though the contents are already done & confirmed by the writer/makerkinda makes you wonder if its intentionally releasing in april/may 2026 bc of DE2
>>543633710By April there's not going to be a functioning D9 anymore, whatever game breaking bugs DE2 has they will be left to deal by a skeleton crew if we are even lucky lmao
>>543633940I find it odd too, why isn't SE like making some parts of the game themselves? they are to a certain capacity, but not coding wise and it shows
>>543634149People have overestimated how much in game development involvment SE had. Clearly they have been very micromanaging when it comes to the narrative and visual direction, but 80 percent of the hard labour job was always done by D9. If SE wanted to replace them with their own, they would have to rebuild their studio from the ground up or create their own first party like they did for Forespoken, but that means money and risks so they are going to be lazy and choose the least effort path
>>543634498well if after DE2 SE major layoffs, that means SE JP abandoned lis & probs DN got back some rights to micromanage the show
>>543635151I guess it's more like SE will try with the show and maybe try to fund a new studio for a new reboot/remake of LIS1 if it goes well
>>543635542Amazon is publishing the next Tomb Raider game.Maybe SE will asked them nicely to finance the next LiS game lol
>>543636393Selling the LIS IP rights to Amazon seems like a more rational approach,a s
>>543631753Considering how many fake profiles she has who knows who is the real one
>>543638360she's not a master of disguise, you can find her easily
Wouldn't it be a SE move to release DE2 on the same day as GTA6?
>>543639235kek but too late in time D9 would be already deadthey're going to relase it same day as RE9
we just outlived the DEfags thread kek
>Judging by the roles of the peeps still left in the cinematic team, the game's either in final stages or real close>Also, based on the number of cinematic minutes shot, it's gonna be like half the length of DEFrom the other thread, based on one of the remaining cinematic artists linkedins from D9
>>543639641I could see that, kinda fitting for an IP in a zombie state.Early 2026 is already packed with everyone and their moms trying to avoid the gta ogre.
>>543642534This tells us nothing about the run time?
>>543642770DE already had the problem of the latter chapters being short af, it's going to be even shorter or either have large untested gameplay
>>543642889Maybe the dlc guy was right. They are going to sell it as dlc
>>543642961I don't know if they were right, they said it was going a DLC was going to be out in December acting as a bridge for DE2, but clearlys that's not what's happening
>>543642961People need to have the game to buy a DLC.Don't think enough players did.DLC with an attach rate of 25% are considered successful. Now, 25% of a flop?
>>543643474Selling a sequel to a flop without actually putting the effort to with back half of the pissed off audience (meaning less people will buy it and less positive coverage) and with the lenght being even less of the first one seems like a shot in the foot
>>543644018We agree that anything DE2, DLC or sequel is a stupid strategy. It comes down to that contract I guess. Nobody will be happy and it'll hurt the IP a bit more.
>>543642534Former D9 Lead Cinematic Artist said this about that Senior Cinematic Artist:"Through her work, she took a detestable character from Life is Strange: Double Exposure, and found a way to make him charming."A detestable character in DE? No way!
>>543642232Good lord Chloe.
>>543644956>Vinh>charming
>>543645269It was so funny I had to share lolProps to her. Maybe he was even more of a pest before.
>>543644956What were they thinking with Vinh. Who was supposed to like this character?
>>543647176>>543646997Giggity
>>543642889The later chapters were shorter cause they had to make something when it was decided to split the game I think.But DE2 probably has a lower budget, so I'll bet each chapter is as short as DE later chapters.With a lot of T posing characters.
>>543652217That sure seems like it
>>543652217This can't possibly end well
>>543656374Not only lower budget, also being made in less time, less polish and even less oversight because all the director people got fired halfway through
>>543657069And as soon as we know who directs it, this person will be called a nazi if we are to believe lady dev heart. Great way to start marketing.
>>543657752at some point Cada believed Stephan Frost would have worked on DE2, but he clearly did not gave two shit about Life is Strange, and Jonathan Zimmerman, the last narrative director guy who worked on BtS and TC, doesn't seem to be a nazi
You should take a look at how seething they are in the other general, they act like shippers are some kind of spite on their own lives, and none of the discussions are about the game either
>>543660692If we can trust the lady, they clearly wanted out of the LiS making business. Frost was clearly part of that pivot. Their best guys did not work on LiS.Does anyone know how Stauder was able to work at all. Everything he has ever touched seemed to have sucked
>>543660692What is Frost doing at D9?A game director without a game to direct is a concept.
>>543663157He became creative director and nothing happened, last time he tried to do sell some game pitches at the DICE dev convention but it didn't pan out. There was some indication they were trying to work on a vampire rpg action project, but it died before it could even be out, and I bet right now hes trying to find another job once the D9 ships sinks
>>543663157Nothing. He's not working on LiS at least.
>>543664723Yeah, creative director... That's a nice title. I saw that action brawler game they tried to make, seems like publishers didn't want it then.>>543665461Maybe he's busy making another board game and waiting for D9 to crash.
>>543666959>I saw that action brawler game they tried to makeWas that the vampire pitch or another one?
>>543667230Don't think it was a vampire thing. Too colorful.They did mocap the animations though. And now it's probably lost on some hard drive.
>>543668946So, assuming the number is right, Deck Nine canned or lost>Skybound deal to make another The Walking Death game>Telltale cooperation for The Wof Among Us 2 >unnamed action brawler pitch>unnamed vampire RPG style pitch
>>543669469Cancellation is pretty normal in the gaming industry but damn that's a lot for a small studio like D9.And the last games they managed to release were a flop (the expanse) and a big flop (DE).Some would say they had their chances.
>>543670830The Expanse was good, but I found the love lives of the characters to be very hard to relate to. Poly and such
>>543671171I think they were on a tight budget and they did the best they could, but sales weren't there.It was also short and that was felt on some relationships.
>>543657752What the fuck you mean by nazi
>Time to knock on their door>blanks everything like its Trump's name from the Epstein files
>>543672238We used to believe Rob "Badratz" Tomilson was the nazi guy who tried to sneak racist memes into DE, since he was the only openly far right D9 developer on twitter working as a environment artist on the game
>>543672238Some company culture.
>>543632439Not quite what she was saying.
I think its strange that Mallory Littleton lead the narrative team for one year, yet not a single person has ever mentioned her. Aysha only mentioned Deandra and gave her a lot of the credit for the game. Thoughts?
>>543676189Her 'sometimes relationships" tweet is legendary and didn't help the game at all.Maybe someday we'll know who decided what in the story.
>>543676189I know some people assume she's the one who hates Chloe. But she wrote for Chloe in Before the Storm and speaks somewhat fondly of the character in interviews.In her interviews happening around TC time, she said its important to her that future games have more trans-rep, etc. I think that's the disconnect. She assumed that if she were able to fight for the inclusion of a character like Gwen that the fans would forgive the exclusion of Chloe. But that assumption didn't come true.
>>543680170It still doesn't explain the whole tweet, expecially how poorly the whole breakup thing was written in the game and how detached Mallory seemed like
>>543680616Rewrites messed everything up. I don't even know if these people saw a complete playthrough of the final revision of the story.
>>543681242>They also had very little faith in the project, with the former lead writer saying "I fucking hate this game," more than once in public meetings. They also almost never played the build while writing the game, leading to very detached decision making. seems like it
>>543681549This would be Deandra? It makes no sense that Mallory would say that
>>543682000It seems like is Deandra, yes. Remember when one transphobic anon throw an hissy fit and shown the tweet of her mocking Katy Bentz defending the layoff decision? I can definitely believe her as being one of the person behind the scenes who hated being on DE
>>543680616Agreed. I just don't think she's necessarily a cartoon villain that some conclude.Some assume her whole mindset must have been 'Fuck Chloe'. But when I read interviews with her, it feels like her mindset is 'Yay Queerness!'. Like this interview where embedding queer themes into the main story and the NPCs and the game setting is a big priority to her.https://gaymingmag.com/2021/10/life-is-strange-series-fandom-community-lgbtq/That sort of crusade can cloud your vision. Square mandates that Chloe be removed. Littleton assumes that if she makes the DE world Hella queer that all will be forgiven. When it isn't, she attempts some poorly guided damage control. with that dumb-ass tweet. She was only 20 years old when she was writing for BtS. She's still only in her 20's now. A young person faced with controversy often ends up dumb and stubborn rather than wise and savvy.
>>543682727Ultimately, it doesn't matter anymore. She much like the rest of the D9 writing team have been gutted out, and now we have a game that is nothing more than a contractual obligation destined to failure
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>>543683301I think it's fine to try to understand what happened behind closed doors, and it can help us see right away how the next project will be. Did they learn anything from DE?It probably doesn't mean much for DE2, too soon. I'm also pretty sure the playtest people will leak info really fast after the last session. People are still mad about DE.
>>543684429>Did they learn anything from DE?I think the lesson here is not what they learned, is how much they scrambled in a last minute attempt to course correct. D9 has no time to learn given they are going to be gone quite soon
>>543685408I was talking more about SE and the future as I already write D9 and DE2 off lol
>Ah, it’s not that hard really. Actual info and digging is happening here. Fanart spam and obsessing over the same devs they managed to memorize from LinkedIn - over there>starting to feel like it’s just one unhinged person behind all that. you don’t collectively obsess over a couple devs for years and still not understand their roles or contributions. it’s all surface-level stuff - resumes, recs, interviews>The other thread is just LRfags seething and image spamming because they couldn’t handle that someone didn’t put an off topic game in the op.>When you still think the focus group is just a /r/pricefield satelliteThey are so arrogant. If they actually were smart folks, they would share a lot of their "findings" here, I did welcome the geoloc anon yet those folks seems so fragile in the way they react, it reminds me of a fourteen year old who think has the world figured out because he's terminally online and can brag about stuff the "average normie" doesn't know. Do me a favour and be humble for one sec
>>543686348There were rumors of either a game that is a new anthology entry, or more likely the Life is Strange 1 remake. The last online survey that was passed down in March had a question talking about if you would have been interested in a remake, so if D9 is out I assume all SE plans would be changed for asking a new studio to make a LIS1 remake
>>543686708Just as with old threads, simply stop responding to them or talking about them. They thrive on the attention you give them.Enjoy peace while it's here.
>>543683573Thanks for the meds, anon. Tastes like mint with a slight cyanide aftertaste. Huh. Vision getting blurry for some reason.
>>543687928Bad habits, I just should let them be and have the ones that are actual mature folks get there and talk about their findings or artworks, like geoloc anon or UEposer anon
>>543686893That's my guess too. The TV series being an adaptation of LiS1 makes it a compelling argument.
>>543688121>wakes up tied to a chair,in what looks to be a photo dark room>sound of thunder outside
>>543618259>>543618802>fake thread>thinnest skinnedThis one was made a hour later because of crybabies who couldn’t handle Flop Records not being in the OP, a game that’s not even in the Life is Strange franchise.
>>543688365> in front of you stands a giant bowling mascot with glowing red eyes
>>543689423>the writing team at Deck Nine pats themselves on their backs>"Finally" they thought "Years of crunch are finally coming to an end.">"Our talent is going to be finally recognized!">They make a celebratory dance, believing for a moment of being Neil Druckmann
>>543690029> "we got them", john said. "we did a kojima on 'em!"> but then, aysha removes her mask. it wasn't neil. it was david de gruttola.
>>543691021>another sound of thunder>sales and players numbers drops down like the Niagara waterfalls>in a small office down in Denver, a phone rings>Mark Lyons replies to it, sweats coming down his neck>an angry voice with a thick posh accent is on the otherside>Lyons listen to it, nervously. The voice unleash their anger on him>he put down the phone. He gulps down his throat, then he speaks, anger in his eyes>"I have to find a way out of this."
With a budget of $30 million and banking on the return of the popular protagonist from the first game, Square Enix expected to sell a million copies.Initial figures showed that less than 400,000 had been sold across all platforms in its first quarter, which had already been marked by price cuts.The next game has to make do with half that budget, and some developers doubt they will be able to deliver a decent product while watching their colleagues leave the company one by one and seeking new opportunities elsewhere.
>>543694087New article copypasta?
>>543686893They need to stop making remakes for games you can play on current gen consoles.Who is actually interested in buying an LIS remake anyway?
>>543697920Sorry I said I'd buy it in the survey u_uI was hoping to explore more of Arcadia Bay and taking pics like Swann and her camcorder.
>>543699607Do you think they would add more content to a remake? Would you trust them to add things without fucking it up?Unless they get Dontnod to do it, I'm not interested in a remake.
What's everyone think about the tarot zine? I don't love all of the illustrations, but the good ones are really good.
>>543732875Where can we see it?
>>543735172Its there >>543481901
This is the inside pitch that a year ago Dmitri and co eas trying to sell the Life is Strange show to other people, and it took a while but it's there now. While it talks about the prospect of making a TV franchise, thats also all on Amazon and how well it performs for the first season
>>543732875I like that pic but I think I'd like it more without the red eye.
>>543736139Then the question becomes if it's about Max and Chloe or the rest of the LiS games. I don't think LiS 2 or TC would work for TV.
>>543739760That will be decided based on how S1 performs and Amazon's last words on it
>>543739760Adapting LiS2 would be a bold move and I'm here for it.But they really have to prepare their audience for an anthology if they go there or history might repeat itself with people asking for more Max and Chloe.
>>5437422842 would work a lot better as a TV series for its own road trip approach, but it still has the same issue of multiple endings that are only keen to the games, plus I'm not really sure Amazon would want to finance a series that's very explicitly anti-maga when Bezos himself sucks up to the orange turd
>>543747635Hopefully things get better in a few years. And adaptation can mean new ending. I'd prefer that honestly. The TV series being its own thing.
>>543749096Realistically speaking, the TV show would have to develop in its own way rather than to be a copy of the original game beats, even if the premise is pretty much the same
Assuming the TV show doesn't get canned for one season, how are they going to adapt things from the Deck Nine games, expecially they are not going to be a company anymore? TC and DE already seems like irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
>>543755821D9 doesn't matter. They already don't consult DontNod so why should they ask D9?SE is the ultimate rights owner.But if they wanna incorporate things from D9, they need to think about it for the first season and eliminate the inconsistencies between LiS1 and BtS for example.
>>543756791It would be a lot more simpler to streamline some BtS scenes as flashback for S1What I'm referring to is also the reality of D9 falling apart and their negative reception tainting the latter games
>>543699607I mean, the idea seems nice but all depends on what kind of studio the remake gets handled, and what Square Enix is willing to do with it, as they have shown to be really pissy and micromanaging when it comes to LIS even when its unecessary
>>543706642ur right and we have LR vs DE debacle, Swann can use her camera freely, in DE you can use it on hardcoded spots and its not even full blown 180-360 degrees
>>543759056A freely usable camera would be a cool thing to have in LIS, the Android port has a cool photo mode option that would have done wonder if implemented
>>543758048There's not really anything from BTS I'd want even as a flashback in the show. BTS is fine on its own, but that version of Rachel can't really coexist with the one in LIS.
How many times Max will help Alyssa in the tv series?
>>543763575With some couple of changes it can be incorporated in. Like for example, if I wanted to streamline both 1 and BTS into a single linear season, I would add the changes of having Chloe bonding with Rachel on a train but removing the BTS Amber family storyline
>>543766228Who said Alyssa's even going to be in the series?
>>543776362And we'll double down on that!
>>543777267>two timelines>one incompetent studio>one out of touch publisher>30 million dollars at stake>two massive flops
I'm glad this general has almost turned into a normal hub, wish the UUE anon would make their return since last time I've asked them to make a couple of album covers they have yet to complete
>>543682727This explains a lot. Thank you for sharing anon. I think you were right. Young and lost, but she really helped killing the series with this misguided crusader spirit of hers
>>543697920If the show becomes a thing and it becomes popular there will actually be a huge market for people buying the remake.
>>543781304Time of shotting and planning wise, show won't be out for at least a couple of years, maybe late 2027 - 2028 if we are lucky
>it becomes popularFor that, it has to reach at least TLOU S1 or Andor levels of being good, and that's not a given considering the state of things, and that's not an easy task.
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>>543781980Mallory was never the true culprit, she was just a cog in the machine, a stupid one too. But the true culprit is SE's retarded demands and D9 spineless complicitity
>>543781835The bathroom scene, the first rewind and the mysterious storm make a nice hook for a first episode.But as good the story is, the show will live or die with the actors. They can't cheap out on them.
Do you think Life is Strange 2 would have been more appriciated if it did not had the number in the title or at least had two main characters who weren't males?
>>543782709If Emma isn't Max, then I don't think Milla's daughter is a good enough of an actress to carry that role, not to mention Chloe casting would also need to be very pivotal
>>543782710I think the real culprit is the release of BtS. People took it as LiS = Max, Chloe and Arcadia Bay.LiS 2 is so good and it actually tried to innovate. D9 games have their moments but they are formulaic and nonchallenging.I think people would judge it better now.
>>543781835Fair point. Though one could argue that objectively, a show like Wednesday isn't actually that good but it has still gotten very popular. Largely because young people got obsessed with the cast and the aesthetic and it now has a large queer audience.LiS would similarly be targeting that 18-25 crowd. Shows like Andor or TLOU S1 tend to target an older and more mature audience that are often more discerning.Arguably, the younger crowd is more forgiving if there's something for them to latch on to. e.g., charismatic cast-members, shipping discussions, general vibes, etc.
>>543783537That's not completely wrong, but the show is going to relase AFTER Wednesday who still has a massive traction. If they stile the show on "we have Wednesday on Prime" rather than stand out on its own legs, people are going to notice that a lot, and it won't help if the main actress is Ever Anderson
>>543739760It will be about Max and Chloe.
>>543783128Yeah, looks won't do enough. They really need to nail the range.If I don't have at least goose bumps during the ep4 junkyard scene, they lose.
>>543783831Agreed. The show can't simply be a Wednesday clone. My main point though is that popularity in the 18-25 crowd is often tied to things beyond just writing and directing. If we look at 4 shows that ended up with obsessive young fan-bases: Stranger Things, Wednesday, Yellowjackets.They tend to have certain things in common. Cast members that are actually young, so that younger people can relate to them (not 30 year-olds playing teens). A certain vibe/aesthetic that is unique/appealing (80s in stranger things, 90s in Yellowjackets, Gothic in Wednesday). Characters that they can ship. Music/soundtracks that are tied to big moments.It's a bit unpredictable on which show will resonate with a younger audience. Some shows have the above factors and yet young people don't notice them or care about them. But when they decide to get obsessed, there are certain ingredients that seem to hook them in.There's no guarantee that LiS will capture a huge audience. But it does potentially have the key ingredients that can trigger youthful obsessive fan-culture.
>>543785476If they lean into to the vibe of LiS and the romance between Max and Chloe it has a lot of potential. Yet it all depends on the cast. Prime doesn't have a very good track record there.
>>543786656Yeah, the cast is key. My preferred path is them finding actresses that aren't household names but that have talent/charisma (one could argue that Ella Purnell achieved that in Fallout). My less preferred path is them hiring someone more well-known so that the cast announcement generates publicity (eg., I'm still skeptical about Sophie Turner as Lara Croft, but maybe she'll surprise me).
>>543787519I'd like new talents for the blackwell students including Max and Chloe (ex student i guess) and maybe one or two big or semi big names for some of the adults. But not the obvious one like David or Jefferson, it could kill the twist. Joyce for sure. And William why not.Oh, made me realize they'll probably have to cast younger version of M&C for that scene lol
I think there’s a good chance they’ll change the race of one of the main characters, probably Chloe, maybe making her half Black or mixed. Charlie tend to favor casting diverse casts. Kaos, for example, was based on Greek mythology, but most of the cast wasn’t white. And her second season of end of the world was based around her OC black girl. And was worse for it.
>>543790752Anything's possible. Though it would make the David scenes change in tone quite a bit if Chloe were a person-of-color. David's already a step-douche in the game. If he's slapping a black girl in the show, its harder to make him have any sympathetic layers. Because the subtext would become 'maybe he's racist and wouldn't slap his step-daughter if she were white'.
>>543790752Sacrifice a black Chloe to save a white town wouldn't fly (even if they don't sacrifice her in the end, the idea's still there).
I don't get why SE hate money. They didn’t sell any merchandise for the anniversary. Bethesda on the other hand knows how to milk their series. Worst thing is that loads of people would have bought something like this if it was offered by SE. They are so freaking dumb.
>>543792771What if the DE collector edition was actually their own attempt to milk on the anniversary?
>>543792746Main idea, they expand the Prescotts as the big bad threat they weren't able to beb in the original game
>>543792771And SE produces their own toys. A Max and Chloe bring arts pack would have been nice.It's like SE JP only remembers they own that IP when it flops and SE London is just too poor to make anything else than book.
>>543793337Now, now, that's offensive. And I bought that collector.
>>543793659SE London seems to be run be incompetent people.
>>543790752I'll rather they didn’t do that. But prime and American production.
>>543792771I would buy the hell out of a similar Life is Strange bundle. I would guess Fallout Las Vegas has a bigger fan base and is helped by the TV show?
>>543794153It has been for quite a long time, and I'm surprised none of the people in Japan even considered replacing them from the ground up
>>543790752I don't know who's going to be different from the main game, but they should at least be good or decent actors
>>543803676Also hope they don't create another character with powers just for the sake of it.
>>543805354Would be better if the bring back the old plot point about Nathan knowing about the storm in advance?
>>543794935Fallout sales went up massively due to the success of the show. By 7500% in some regions. With the next season of the show focused on New Vegas its a smart move for Bethesda to create that bundle.
>>543806120Can it be repeated for LIS tho?
>>543808972Why not? A lot of young people have never heard of LiS. I see the fandom of Wednesday, Yellowjackets and the like seem to be teeming with young queer people who are already online too much. If they could get those kind of people interested surely there must be big potential out there
Remember that Dispatch superhero game? Whole script and endings cutscenes leaked so basically everyone knows how it ends, so much for the arbitrary episodic relase
>>543817025Never heard of it
>>543817025Was it datamine? They'll never learn...We had it good with LR, not that much leaked.
>>543818658It's from the dev who were supposed to make the wolf among us 2 and well, telltale telltaled. So they focused on their own game.
>>543818658Its a game made by former Telltale devs with superheroes and VA with stremers personalities in hit as well as a Critical Role partnership, and they are relasing it in the fake episodic manner as the whole game is tecnically complete but each chapter gets updated a week at a time
>>543819036They are a different studio, just with some Telltale guys in it. NuTelltale is still stuck in development hell for TWAU2
>>543818865We got header screenshots of various chapter moments for Tape 2 including Kat's bald head, her bird costume, box content and hag Swann at the Abyss but since none of those had context in where it was placed in the story it was fairly better to avoid full spoilers
A month ago, D9 temporarily rehired a gameplay designer (who was laid off in december). He said at the time that he'll be open for a new job at the start of 2026.Is DE2 coming so soon?
>>543830143It doesn't matter, anon.
>>543830143It was him and another animator, but its never a good sign if they to rehire people that late, only to have them leave in January 2026. Makes me wonder how much of a botched mess DE2 in its tecnical state
>>543836236I wanna hear you out but you have to give me more. Why does it not matter?Maybe this guy's contract isn't indicative of the release date of their game. Or is this game never releasing after all?>>543864712Yeah even if they build everything on top of DE, it'd need a lot of QA, it's really worrying. DE was never fully patched after all.
>>543870618I can't exactly imagine DE2 will receive full substantial patches either if they are going to lay off all their devs by next yearDo you think the reason why are they doing playtests under heavy NDA is because unlike the first part SE is deeply worried about the quality of the game? Because they pushed a lot of content creators to play DE the first time openly
>>543872631Someone here was saying SE could decide whether to cancel the game or not depending on the feedback from these playtests.Seems weird but who knows now.But I do believe SE is worried, what can they do with the sequel of a big flop releasing so soon?
>>543872631The biggest twist would be if the test was not about DE2.
>>543878152At this point is 100% about DE2 or whatever is called, but I really hope some weirdo can at least give some leaks on what they are going to show in those days
Episodic gaming is dead, LR was a good compromise but it only showed that type of genre can't really be sustainable in modern days, and for former Telltale games to still cling on a fake episodic method is just for nostalgia sake. Better to cut it out and relase a full game
>>543878567I bet some real weirdos have already written their "leaks".
>>543880724I have yet to see some proper leaks on DE2, but if they get random players to experience the whole game in two days its going to slip over by virtue of being so long for focus groups compared to previous sessions
If you had any doubt left about the demise of D9, Frost had 16 recommendations up until 2020, just before he was hired by D9.He now has 4 more since august 2025. The man is on the market.
>>543883321Not surprising at all, he will announce his departure once he secures his new job
please repress LiS1 vinyl SE thank you buddy
>>543883321Wanna bet that he is gone at the first opportunity, and then D9 is pretty much dead
>>543895975They were dead once it was clear DE bombed and fired Pickersgill
>>543899097And now what remains of a fanbase is wondering if they'll get a last gift from D9.
>>543900329>last giftIt's a cyanide capsule.
>>543900839Indeed kek
>>543900329If we can trust ladydev. There is no Chloe gift at least
>>543907143Oh I'm sure her crosstalk aventures will be fabulous.
>>543907143D9 rose to fame thanks to Chloe, and their downfall is all about a dogshit game that crap on her character
>>543879023I think it would work if it was say 5 episodes, but only a week between releases rather than a couple of months. Enough that people dont losei nterest. Id be interested to see how many people finished Bloom but never touched Rage.
>>543916926There was a site that came out indicating it was a split, with 40% of players leaving after the first tape on PlayStation, which isn't great but not terrible either. Of course you can't remake an episodical relase knowing that you are going to gradually lose attention and interest from people outside, hence why Lost Records if it gets a second game like it seems to be, they need to make a whole game from the get go
>>543916926On steam, 53% of players finished Bloom and 40% finished Rage.
>>543925047That's why I think ultimately is better to have a single relase thing than the fake one week relase other devs choose to do
Square won't make new merch, so let's vote for fan stuff instead>https://community.youtooz.com/?sort=-popularity&search=lis
>>543928824That reminds me that SE made those mini figures of Chloe, Rachel, Sean and Daniel for the collectors and that was it.
>>543630318There's no layoff in London for now, the chick is still there on her position. Where did you get that?
>>543931619Her instagram (story). She put photos of her goodbye party and cake and tag her other workers saying she'll miss them.
>>543935065Do you have saved them? She hasn't updated her Linkedin if this was the case
>>543937217Nah, didn't think it was that important.I just have some of the people she tagged, like Lucy, Rhianne, natehawke, yukapants, talesofmre. Maybe that Joshua guy with the rock band too, don't remember.
>>543941493>natehawke, yukapants, talesofmreWho the fuck are those people?
>>543947529Can't make them up! SE London seems full of colorful characters.
>>543949882Do they do something useful or is only Lucy the one who tries?
>>543953315Maybe they work hard on their other IPs like
