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Launch is today

Download & Launch Schedule

>Pre-Download Schedule: October 21, 2025 (Tue) 3:00 (UTC+0)

>Official Launch Date: October 22, 2025 (Wed) 3:00 (UTC+0)

>PC Client (Stove)
https://www.onstove.com/en/download

>Reroll guide
https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/guides/reroll-guide
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Will this game be good or the next Stella sora?
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>>543516263
I dont know
I saw anime slay the spire and was interested
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Sex. That is all.
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What do we call ourselves? /czn/ners? zenners?
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I just want 1 gacha game with Arknights' gacha system and FGO's female characters.
Is it really so much to ask?
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>>543516074
>Early thread before bump limit when there's nothing going on
Why even
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>>543516360
>weapon and not playable
GAY!!!
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>>543516360
>Partner
My cope is that all partners are future combatants
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>>543516467
No korean/chinese writer can write on pars with Nasu
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Game looks kind of comfy, I like the art.
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>>543516448
nikke card game version
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>>543516590
I don't care about the writing. I just want female characters like in FGO. From lolis to titcows and everything in between.
Literally no other game comes even close to FGO in terms of character design.
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>>543516467
>with Arknights' gacha system
The game that literally punishes you if you're a newfag? No reruns for limited characters meaning you have to shell out 300 rolls every time you want one of the ~25 limiteds?
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No, I don't think I'll put males in my team even if they're super fucking meta.
If I can't jerk off to the girls while playing the game then I don't want it.
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>>543516934
Which is the problem, cn/kr writers are not on pars with fgo writer who can create diverse cast of women
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>>543516969
Who the fuck gives a shit about newfags? Fucking lmao. Arknights' gacha system is fantastic if you played for a long time. It might not be the best out there but among the better ones it makes the most money.
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moo cow
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>>543516969
my brother, I have been saying the exact same thing but these arknights players always insist on how far arknights is. 600 jimbos per pull takes absofuckinglutely forever and if you fail the endless 50/50 just kiss everything goodbye unless you're an old player. new players won't have enough for a spark especially the 300 spark unless they're eating the ceo's ass.
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>>543517123
Anon, Nasu isn't the one who is designing how the women look. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>543517112
>basically nikke 2D design shows up on screen when casting ability
yeah, no men allowed. this shit is for fanservice.
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Do you think this game will use AI like mihomo games?
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>>543516590
>>543516934
Fatefags actually thinking their shitty series has anything remotely close to good writing will never stop being funny
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>>543516969
>limited characters are limited
Shocking.
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>>543517234
He is the one giving instruction for making them tho , majority of the character design are made for his taste including giantess woman
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>>543517485
My post literally starts with:
>I don't care about the writing.
Are you illiterate?
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Can you farm dupes in this game? I'm so tired of every game copying the Genshin model...
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global or asia?
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>>543517487
even standard banner sucks balls and no one pulls on kernal
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>>543517487
Limited characters are just anti consumer and have never been a good thing. Seasonal limited character is the most anyone should be okay with.
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>>543517418
they use it to get an idea of what a generic card should look like
check the kr jewtube channel, you won't find it on the en one
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>>543517618
I can't read chicken scratches so global.
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>>543517485
Fate Grand order is the best gacha in terms of writing tho
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>>543517685
The very concept of gacha is anti-consumer.
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You fellows need to stop mentioning all of these bigshot games that CZN is not competing against. Our rival games are Morimens, Reverse:1999, and other modern card battler gacha.
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>>543517596
if not, I know where I won't be and that is playing this game. comfy card game with fanservice ok.. dupes and packages in that comfy card game? helllll nah
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>>543517487
>Miss out 1 meta broken character
>Forever brick until the banner rerun
>Banner rerun
>Lose coin flip
>Still bricked
How does arknight ceo taste like?
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>>543516074
https://poal.me/ksapjj
Region check
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>>543517824
Salty.
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>>543517685
That cocksucker still slurping arknight ceo cock
Please pardon him
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>>543517778
now that I can agree with
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>>543517778
Which only reinforces the fact we shouldn't glorify making it even more anti consumer.
Just because a certain food is inherently unhealthy doesn't mean we should glorify lacing it with poison.
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Who we rerolling for?
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who do I reroll for?
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>>543517953
>Didn't play arknight
>Got 'salty' by someone
Lolu
Lumaooo

>>543518031
>He think he can reason with arknight slupers
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>>543517824
If you played since launch then you simply don't miss out on characters because dupes are completely meaningless, a single copy unlocks the character at 99% of their power unlike post-hoyoshit gacha games where a single copy of a character is basically a trial version and it doesn't have weapon gacha or any other secondary gacha so if you started at the beginning then you could easily get everything without spending much. Sure, Arknights is ruthless for latelets but no one cares about them.
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>>543518109
multiple girls
Mei Lin probably
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>>543518109
Mei Lin and Magna is my dick roll. I'll probably reroll for Haru too even though she looks boring as fuck since she's the rate up.
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>>543518109
Unless there is some completely useless and weakass character, I'm not doing all that
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>>543518109
Haru+1 of Magna, Orlea, or Rin.
Is Renoa really a gacha character? I thought she was the main girl.
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Stop ruining the tried with your faggy fellatio fetish.
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>>543517817
>>543517596
Looks like you can't "farm" them but you will max out a character for free eventually after enough events.
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>>543518109
preferably enough girls to fill all the roles
if not then half of the roles
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>>543518109
I'm not rerolling unless I get that furry
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>>543518171
>>If you start since launch
>Who care about latelets

See
You can't reason with arknight slupers
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>he's still thinking about sucking dick
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>>543518306
She gets shadowrealmed in the tutorial
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>>543518109
Rin
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Does the MC look cool at least or is it another generic short black haired male
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>>543518605
Who doesn't?
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>>543505547
>You can't skip the story in CZN
Holy shit PLEASE tell me this is only for the intro/tutorial and no the whole fucking game I am NOT reading 1000000000 words of gacha story they all fuckin sucks
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>game has furry males
Thoughts?
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>>543518109
Khalipe's preview made me like her.
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>>543518749
I skip
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>>543518676
From what i hear
Something like rover
Cmiiw

>>543518749
>We want the arknight audience
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>>543518749
We try not to think about them.
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>>543518510
Yes anon, you're supposed to get into gacha games early on. You shouldn't never pick up a gacha over a few months old. Hell, I picked up AK half a year into its life and while the start was a bit rough, my account quickly became whale tier without spending exorbitant prices. If I had started at launch I probably could have gotten away with even less spending at the beginning.
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>>543518109
Damn just 2 hotties
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>>543518749
Why can't a chad like him be the MC/self insert? I wanna be the cool werewolf
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>>543518749
Were it not for the shirt ripping it wouldn't be gay.
The design itself definitely isn't a furfag fetishist one but more of a "I think werewolves are cool" design.
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>>543518146
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Should've been a 5*
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Bros I want you to be 100% honest with me. Any lolis in game or is it over for me?
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Nice flop
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>>543519176
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>>543518749
>a fixer who harbors a deep rage after losing his precious during a job
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>>543519190
fuck off
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I love playing crest haven in shadoba. Which character should I reroll for?
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>>543519190
The future is here, old man.
This is the era of hag games.
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>>543519286
We got off easy. Stella Sora shilled theirs with male vtubers...
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this is a hagchad general
pedos OUT
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>>543519286
>His game collab with vtumor on launch
LMAO
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>>543519378
Khalipe
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>>543519378
>>543518749
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>>543518109
Hugo
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>>543516467
arknots gacha and fgo gacha are literally the same thing
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>>543519124
No it's a furfag design, his trauma makes him look cooler and more like what you described but his default looks is 100% a furfag look
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>>543519286
I will now play your game.
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>>543519680
>Make a bara furry
>Biting a flower
??
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>>543519680
Ah, okay yeah that's gay.
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>>543519286
You can't even begin to understand how much I despise that pink wigger piece of subhuman trash.
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>>543519780
It's called gap moe.
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>>543519780
It's the gay equivalent of tomboy wearing flower on head
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>>543519668
>[completely false statement]
What kind of response are you waiting for?
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>>543519286
>
Just a theme song
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>>543519680
this design reminds me of baphomet (the goat demon)
if he wore something cooler it'd not have been too bad
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>thread this slow when the game about to launch
Bros...
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>>543519680
Why can't we have cool furries, man? FGO even does furries right.
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>>543520169
everyone's gonna be showing off their multiple 5* when the game goes live anyways, who cares how slow it is right now
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>>543516074
who are you guys going to reroll?
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>>543520169
normal people dont post in a thread for a game that doesn't release for another 11 hours
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>>543520169
>second thread for a game that hasn't even released yet
>running alongside the original thread that's still getting posts
>30 minute thread already 100 posts in
Find better material doomkek
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>>543519286
I will now install CZN.
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>>543520287
The passion genki girl.
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>>543520003
>pity that is so high it's irrelevant
>dual banners
>rateup that's actually even worse than fgo's
thanks for the correction, it's worse than fgo actually
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>>543520240
>4 swords
for what purpose?
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>>543520457
Um...
Arknight slupers
How do we defend this?
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bro what the fuck is wrong with this Stove client
why does it keep opening/closing and the "updating" is permanently at 0%? is this shitty launcher going to brick my pc?
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Bros... I'm worried. What if this game's launch ends up getting laughed at just like Stella Sora? What do...?
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Trickcal won...
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>>543520689
Move on
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>>543520287
Rerolling is for children and autists.
Or "content creators", who are both.
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>>543520169
Don't worry
I'll create bot script to make new id to make it seems like the game launch successfully
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>>543520807
saar go back to sleep saar
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>>543518109
is that actually Kayron? What's he doing here?
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>>543520746
...the losing contest
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Why's this game using some weird random emulator?
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>>543520582
The only thing I have to defend is my dick from your gaping mouth, you homo.
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>>543520872
he fled to a better game
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>>543520689
Everything released now is just a waiting room for NTE, Promilia, or Ananta anyways
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>>543520647
This. Should I play on mobile instead?
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>>543499584
>With this pattern CZN is GUARANTEED to succeed.
time traveler? because I can't believe some smart is on 4chan
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>>543516074
>>543518109
>>543519174
i just realized, where are the 5 star standard support characters?
in most modern gacha games ive played, the 5 star standard DPS characters tend to fall off faster than any other role..
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>>543520647
The game is banned in India
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>>543520782
Only children autists get mad at rerolling since it doesn't affect them at all what someone else chooses to do while playing a game.
But for everyone else, spending an hour or two so they can enjoy a game a lot more for weeks to come makes a lot of sense.
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>>543520996
>Think about dick non stop
Who the gay one, homo?
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>>543521063
That's a TERRIBLE pattern, anon.
I absolutely hate 2 of the 3 gachas named.
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>>543521119
I live in Wisconsin
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>>543520872
He immigrated from /e7g/ like everyone else
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>>543521230
for what reason
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>partners are essentially weapons
You fucking liars were telling me how much better this kusoge was gonna be compared to stella sora and here we are with the same shit. fucking gooks got me again
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>>543521063
Stella Floppa was also ranked #1
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>>543521026
It might surprise you to hear this but a lot of people are not that interested in even more open world action slop
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>>543521149
I'm not mad, I feel bad for you.
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>>543521109
Orlea is the only 5* support currently, and she's a gimmicky unit that works by holding cards
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>>543521375
They are clearly games that made bank, but it is evident that the devs have not reinvested their earnings into bettering the game that made them rich.
I hate games that are blatantly left out to milk their playerbases.
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>>543521063
>PC plebs have to deal with yet another garbage launcher
>download on the mobile instead to see if it's worth playing
>"WOW WE'RE RANKED 1 ON APP STORE"
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>>543521109
There are no standard characters anon, the only limited characters are seasonal ones and we won't get one for a while.
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>>543521109
It's a card game so it's not really comparable to most gachas. Controllers and Defenders can work as support, and some decks don't need supports at all.
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>>543521581
understandable
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>>543521380
>Don't instantly make your char 40% worse if you don't roll their "exclusive weapon"
How are they like weapons again? For what Stella Sora fucked up, theirs were nothing like weapons either.
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>>543521549
You are awfully concerned with how other people choose to play a game, which not only means you are mad but that you also need to grow up.
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Anyone know the XOR to unpack the data.pack file? Or if anyone has already cracked it open?
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>>543521806
they're even worse than stat sticks in this game. you're telling me drawing 6 cards in a fucking slay the spire clone is not as impactful as extra stats in stella sora?
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>>543520169
>10+ hours from launch
>about to launch
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>>543517227
Because they've been playing for 5+ years. It's absolutely abysmal for new players but someone with 5+ years of sunk cost isn't gonna admit that
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>>543520689
But I'm enjoying Stella Sora, chu talking bout wilis?
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>>543518315
interesting, thanks. I hope they realize that people are picky about gacha these days. I know it's hard to believe, but they're one silly move away from eos.
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>>543521230
>hate 2 of the 3 gachas
Hard to hate on Limbus. The fanbase is bad but the game and its story are very decent
Nikke is based. God tier OST and probably the best side gacha if you're interested in its story
BA helped many young men avoid testicular cancer. It is the best gacha to follow without the need to play
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Please tell me that Serithea is playable.
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Going to take a nap.
Hope I won't get knotted after waking up and rolling.
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>>543522247
But r/gachagaming said that game is doomed?
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heard emulator's banned, is it really?
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>>543518704
we get to relive what it feels like to play genshin story, aren't you excited?
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>>543521581
>the devs have not reinvested their earnings into bettering the game that made them rich.
Has ANY gacha done this? All the ones I've played have been more or less stagnant quality wise
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>>543521879
Calm down, take deep breath.
All I did was state my opinion on a subject.
I wasn't even addressing you personally.
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>>543521403
>Stella Floppa was also ranked #1
so it didn't flop?
>>543521628
>PC
>Japan
at least 80% of the revenue is from mobile for every gacha game. even the very action heavy and are almost unplayable on phones games like Wuthering Waves
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>>543521928
>>543521380
>partner / weapon / card system
I dont want to play gachas like this again after just going through Umamusume. Such system is extremely difficult for f2ps
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>>543518749
>furry male
>somehow make it ugly and grotesque
if this thing ever ends up in my character list I am uninstalling stove too
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>>543522348
That’s a long ass nap
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>>543520457
Again, all of that gets outweighed by the fact that dupes are meaningless because a single copy of the character unlocks them at 99% of their power instead of giving you a trial version of the character and the fact it has no secondary gacha.
There are gacha games with better gacha systems out there like AL or GLF1 but Arknights completely shits on most other gacha games that make money with how good its system is. That is, if you aren't a latelet faggot.
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>>543521928
In Stella Sora, the discs were universal as hell. It had absolutely nothing tied to the character, just THE ENTIRE FUCKING ELEMENT, and if they release 50 new chars of that element, every single char would work well with that disc. Unlike a weapon gacha where the weapon boosts its char by 40% and iss just a statstick on any other char
Here, partners are also their own thing, they're not tied to a specific char where the char is useless without the partner, and the partner is useless without the char.
Want a partner who does Draw 3 on the team? Bring the partner that does Draw 3. You're not bringing the partner because the gam arbitrarily gives a massive buff for bringing it with its char.
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>>543510518
>90% of the fanart is the MC
Owarida... why do devs keep making the best designs unplayable MCs?
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>>543521380
I think the weapon shit will damage this game's longevity. Part of why R1999 has survived this long because there is no weapon gacha and you can get them for free.
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Does this game even have a self-insert mc? I can't find anything in the website. If it's male-only self-insert, it'll be a good sign
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>>543522891
Rin is a 4*?
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>>543520647
it kept freezing up and giving me errors about the connection when my internet is fine... it sketches me out a bit to be honest
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>>543522891
bwo...
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>>543522514
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>>543520689
I unironically have more hope for stella sora than this game, but to be honest neither will do very well because they're releasing pre-2025 predatory gacha in the year where everyone wants to rip the balls off of anyone making a predatory gacha.
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>>543522480
>Has ANY gacha done this?
They release another game like what GFL did
Nikke will probably do the same since the IP is very popular and they want it to stay relevant for years. No chance for that to happen with the current outdated game
FGO could have done it too if it wasn't a Fate game. It is still the King of Gacha to this day and tops the chart with a single PNG release while Chinese companies like Mihoyo and Kuro have to waste hundreds of millions on ads to compete and still fail
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>>543522918
It does have a self insert not sure about the male only part but I have only seen a male one
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>>543523012
That's not Rin.
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>>543522521
it was ranked #1 for downloads
didnt even reach top 30 for spending
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>all the sexiest designs are either 4-stars or partners
shit game
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>>543522640
I don't care if the weapons are general use or not. these summons you get from partners look so much more impactful than any statstick could ever be making pulling the shitty weapon banner borderline necessary instead of being whalebait.
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Does Ren work with Mei?
I think they are the cutest characters so I want to have them in one team.
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>>543522698
Are you confusing this with Stella Sora? The MC of Silver Palace is playable.
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>>543523360
>it was ranked #1 for downloads
>downloads
ok I fell for it
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>>543523534
You want to have two teams anyways, Rin is a selfish DPS and Mei Lin works anywhere because of her gimmick
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>>543523673
yjk the gacha in this game is gonna be the most jewish thing you've ever seen
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Ngl, i start to like mixed toilet gacha. Full female gets boring. Now, rolling and getting a m*le with zero bro aura sucks tho
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how do 4 stars stack up in this?
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>>543521570
isn't she more into dealing damage with breeding the slimes?

>>543521681
>>543521734
2 attackers + 1 sustain(healer/defender) viable?
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>>543523904
Yeah and you need to hold the slimes so they do more damage instead of being dead weights unless you're looking for quick damage
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>>543523904
yeah but she ramps so slowly
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so Haru isnt actually a limited unit right? she's just the first standard unit with a target banner? like how in E7 Bellona is just a standard unit, whereas Luna was an actual limited unit? does this game work the same way?
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>>543523904
3 defenders are viable
3 attackers are viable
it depends more on the characters synergy with one another
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>>543523904
Depends on the attackers. Rin doesn't want any more attackers on the team for example
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Should I reroll with my dick or with the meta in mind? I'd roll with my dick, but I heard that Serithea isn't playable so idk now
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>>543518109
which character have the most broken dupes since we will get character selector when reached 300 standard pulls.
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>>543524103
Yes, it's the exact same way. The game just isn't out yet so people are confusing limited time banners with actual limited characters
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>>543523879
They do a bit less damage assuming both your 4* and 5* characters have max dupes, but they're perfectly viable, especially early and midgame. Some comps like shielder comp have to use 4*s because there aren't enough synergistic 5*s.
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>>543524236
Kaho a shit!
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>>543523879
Maribel (big fat honkers with a large case) was the best shield spammer in the playtest and she's a 4*. Mika (your starter healer) is a T0 AP generator. Tressa (a starter DPS) deals so much damage that her Ego skill got nerfed from 4 cost to 5.
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>>543523416
>these summons you get from partners look so much more impactful than any statstick
You haven't looked at them, have you? Some of their single-use ultimate summons, are literally worse than 1-cost combatant skills. And also cost the same energy currency to use as character ults, which are usually way stronger, and can be cast multiple times instead of being used once.
They are just universal statsticks for the most part.
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>>543524696
They have the advantage of not causing the action timer of enemies to go down when you use them
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A shame that this doesn't have a steam client and is instead using whatever the fuck STOVE is, never even heard of this platform before. Is this game of Korean,Japanese or Chinese origin?
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>>543525015
gook
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>>543523673
Oh shit I'm sorry
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>>543525015
korean
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>>543525015
Just let them cook in stove....
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>>543525057
Sorry for what?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3XIsHnD-8

Airheaded big badonkas schoolgirl, hnnngggg
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>>543518749
cool doggo
better than regular males
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>>543524696
have you? thats obviously false. they're on par with the character ults considering they're cheaper and considering they're the fucking best abilities your character has, thats fucking saying something not even considering the extra utility most of them have
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>>543523789
at least they got my nigga shinichiro miki for this
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>>543525046
>>543525102
They've been creating the better gachas recently for some reason with Blue archive as the golden standard if you ask me, the japanese have just been creating dogshit gachas and CN has been creating fairly good games but giving them the most dogshit stories and character designs imaginable with poor post launch support too with shitty events that have nothing to do with why you play those games and etc
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>>543525743
No need to fellate kims that much anon, they're all gacha games at the end of the day and gook ones just happen to be less shit
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>>543525386
kek
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>>543525930
Yeah I know, I'm not praising them, just saying that for some reason that's how its been recently
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guys what's the gameplay loop in this game like?? is it very complex??
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>>543525743
>the japanese have just been creating dogshit gachas
they've just moved on to producing more real games
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>>543526068
You run the roguelite mode 90% of the time and only hit the grind modes when your stamina is full
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>>543526107
I guess, thought I haven't been enjoying what they've been creating on that side either, which is a shame since they at least used to have the best barrier between fiction and reality with the most freedom
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where can i find the skill changes for khalipe/rin?
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>>543526720
they just don't have the technical prowess/too busy with recycling gameplay loops to make good games anymore outside of a few powerhouse studios
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>>543518109
I want Mei Lin, but I don't plan to reroll unless I get a homo
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>>543524351
how about full dupe 4* vs a 0 dupe 5* ?
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>>543526934
I still like from soft even though I think Nightreign was a steaming pile of garbage with the most wasted potential I have ever even seen on a video game before
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>>543527184
sequels can only take you so far. I was hoping the medieval project was gonna be something brand new but it turned out to be another persona rehash
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I just want a big titty dommy mommy or a possessive yandere.
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>>543527184
it didn't feel like fromsoft, the colors and vibe were off
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>>543527145
They changed how dupes work and also it depends on the characters, so it's impossible to know but 4*s are viable so just use who you like.
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>>543525571
>Renoa
4-cost ego skill that's designed to use with her 1-cost skill
>300% damage +fills your hand with cards that will deal 160% free damage for each empty card in hand
with minmaxing that's 1740% damage for 4-cost, but depending on the length of the battle. For easy short short battles it's going to still be like 620+%
5-star Partner ego skills are 3-cost for150%(aoe)-250% damage, with a small bonus like applying vulnerable for 2 hits or draw 1 card

For Defenders
Maribelle gives 350% shield for 4-cost as a 4-star
5-star partner gives 200%shield for 3-cost, technically with 50% of it retaining til next turn but if if they're hitting softly enough that 50+% of your shield is leftover you're shielding way too much.

The few partners who aren't just statsticks are the few who do utility not found in char kits
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>>543518109
I'm rerolling for my nigga, too bad he doesn't have his cool sword anymore though
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How Spooky is this game?
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>>543527494
nice, thank you
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>>543527640
Getting spookier by the tail end of Chapter 3, check the official tw*tter's developer letter if you want to have your fears assuaged or confirmed
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>>543527570
Hmm? This kinda looks like Epic 7 animation style wise
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>>543527973
That's a screenshot from e7 yes
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what's the server split like?
do i need to download a jp only client or is it shared?
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>>543528208
shared client, unless you're chinese
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>>543527973
That one is from epic 7. But CZN is also made by the same company that made Epic 7
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>>543525642
Fuark, this brings me back to when I started playing E7 during launch
back then fujos hadn't poised my vision towards male characters yet, so Tywin and Charles were my niggas
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>>543527973
E7 has better animations sadly
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>many deck builds locked behind bunch of dupes
do you like it?
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>>543527184
>the most wasted potential I have ever even seen on a video game before
AHEM
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As somebody with 2k hours in Slay the Spire will I be disappointed with this game? The last gacha I played was Nikke two years ago and the dailies was getting to be too much
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>>543528632
Fuck you're right, but if you ask me that one was doomed from the start because of the shitty ass engine and open world, just like MHWilds
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>>543518109
Is it really that Kayron?
Is Tenebria also in?
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>>543527541
the 160% for each of the cards is not coming from her ultimate, she's just drawing the cards that have to actually exist first. the bullets are getting generated from the actual cards in her kit rather than the ultimate sowhy are you conflating the two? they're unrelated. in reality, its just 300% damage and card draw for 5 cost which is pretty much on par with the summons.

carrying over shield is much more useful than an extra 150% in a lot of situations since it carries over the total % instead of just the shield provided by the summon. it lets you provide value for future turns on turns that would be duds otherwise. obviously there's a trade off here, but its on or better in a lot of cases
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>>543528587
E7 has better animation on ults but CZN has better sprit work.
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I guess I have to install on my phone to reroll huh, what with this kike gook stove shit
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>>543528609
just like your average TCG
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>>543528983
too bad the sprites are cut-ins and you're stuck with chibishit outside of them
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>>543528609
they better nerf the dupes into the ground and put a lot of the shit they used to have in the base kits otherwise this game is going to be complete whalebait
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>>543528770
If you're expecting a StS level kamige yeah. But if you're expecting a bit of fun it'd probably scratch the itch
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>>543528609
Yeah I was just looking at that. This shit's basically StS but you have to spend an arm and a leg for dupes to build a good deck. Consider me filtered.
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>>543528770
this game is darkest dungeon + chrono ark mix, the only sts part in it is the map movement
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>>543528794
last bread mentioned something about her but it might be headcanon because she looked nothing like tene
but yes it's that kayron
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>>543528805
You have to be a braindead 60 iq retard to use her ego skill when she doesn't have bullets + the card already in her hand. There is zero reason to ever use her ego skill unless those conditions re met. So it's never just 300% damage unless there's an enemy with 1hp left hat you need to kill this turn, in which case it doesn't matter what you do as long as it's damage
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>>543529874
are the dupes really that impactful? gameplay seemed fine without them
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What's the verdict on this game? 2 generals on release seems fairly weak to me. I was tempted to try the game.
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>>543530426
It hasn't launched yet if that's what you're asking
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does anyone else feel like the arcadey/pixel numbers feel out of place? i like everything else about the game but the font for damage numbers just feels weird
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>>543530426
>2 generals on release seems fairly weak to me.
How is having numerous release threads working out for the other gacha that released this week?
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>>543530426
Come back tomorrow and I'll tell you.
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>>543530426
yea it's DOA
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ALL MY HOMIES ARE REROLLING FOR RIN
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>>543527184
>I think Nightreign was a steaming pile of garbage with the most wasted potential
Allow me to tell you an old tale, a Final Fantasy if you will..
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Collecting ahegao faces under the guise of mental breakdowns is quite genius I'd say
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>>543529257
Apparently you can reroll on PC due to there being a delete account button
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Currently working my way through Morimens which I actually really enjoy, might be my favorite gacha of the last year or so, after dropping BA and ZZZ. Not quite caught up in content so I'm still having fun, but hitting a wall so CZN is coming out a the perfect time.

Anyone who is knowledgeable enough in both games know if it's realistic to play both games without going A) Broke or B) Unemployed due to no free time?
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>>543530332
I think the most impactful buffs were usually at 2/6 and nothing that ever fundamentally changed how a char plays dupe. But they mentioned rebalancing dupes, not sure if anyone datamined anything about that yet
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>>543530708
True
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>>543528609
>many deck builds locked behind bunch of dupes
PLEASE say sike holy shit
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>>543528770
>The last gacha I played was Nikke two years ago and the dailies was getting to be too much
Nikke improved the dailies by a lot, if Nikke managed to do that any gacha except UMA can
UMA has the worst dailies in any gacha and by far
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>>543531147
he's pre-empting the powercreep in 2 years
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>>543530245
what the fuck are you talking about we're comparing the summons only if you're adding in the damage from the bullets then you're factoring in multiple cards/turns/energy into the comparison which is obviously going to skew towards the character skill no duh. if you're just comparing the text, its just 300% damage plus some utility card draw for the token cards

the point is, the partners are grossly overpowered compared to most other gachas with weapon systems and its going to make it so the partner gacha is going to be a lot more necessary to waste gems on instead of an optional whalebait system. the retards advertising this game having a better gacha system by miles compared to stella sora were obviously fucking lying and this game is just as shit just in a different way
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>>543530785
Yeah from what I've heard that one went downhill pretty fast aswell, its just that Nightreign to me was such an easy concept to execute. Just rehash all of your old shit, Dark souls 1,2,3 fuck it even Sekiro maps or some shit along with their bosses too and weapons then shove them all into a hunger games PVE mode. Instead they made the most medriocre shit I have ever seen
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>>543528983
CZN has a lot of more animation work as a whole per hunter when compared to e7
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>>543523176
youre going to buy it. consoooooom, paypig! oink oink oink oink!
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>>543531238
The ego skill's effects are that it's pulling all of ONE SPECIFIC card to your hand? What does that one specific card do?
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Games you play?
Favorite CZN character from looks/feeling alone?
Hopes and fears for the game?
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do you guys feel like this game is going to be a pain to balance for the devs? they said they are going to have a new set of general cards every season or something, won't that take a shit ton of time to create every single season?
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>>543531147
in the beta Renoa's first dupe added text to her basic attack skills to add a bullet card to her deck which is used with a bunch of cards in her deck and was previously only obtainable through a few other skills. this is their design philosophy for dupes for beware of the future
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>>543523176
I honestly have a hard time finding reasons to play this when DNA is just a week away from launching and they moved the gacha from characters and weapons to cosmetics. I fucking hope more gacha games follow suit in the future.
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>>543531505
AI is a thing you know?
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>>543531560
this is why i dont spend on smileslop. e7 is just as shit
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>>543529874
the high rarity partners are pretty OP, if I'm not mistaken there's a support one that basically allows you to recycle your hand. shit like will 100% be the limiting factor when coming up with a deck.
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>>543531631
>t. vibe codetard
>>543531625
DNA has no gameplay. retard
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>>543531768
#supershit
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I don't know if they changed it from the beta but you need to "break in" new characters by traumatizing them before they can activate divine epiphanies and get their strongest cards
divine epiphanies are really fucking rare but also necessary for making a busted character
I think there's also another rare type of epiphany but I don't remember the details
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>>543531497
i like roguelite deck builders like sts, monster train, across the obelisk etc. also played e7 for years but stopped because the pvp was difficult to keep up with. really glad this game is pve only
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>>543531473
you're so dense bro keep take your internet W or whatever there's no point trying to explain this shit to you when you're not even addressing the main point
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>>543531768
My computer belongs to China and Korea already lil bro I have no fears
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>>543531761
E7 dupes are worthless, the only good ones are the speed imprint but most of the time none are used.
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>>543532001
Ohhh I can't wait to repeatedly mindbreak all of the girls...
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>>543532123
based zogbot tankie
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>>543531951
>warframe has no gameplay
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>>543532013
>really glad this game is pve only
Wait, what's the endgame for CZN?
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>>543532238
if youre equating those two, you must have two dads
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>>543532290
The same as the endgame for uma musume
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>>543532371
DNA is literally anime Warframe, are you stupid? A bit jankier but literally Warframe nonetheless.
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>>543532290
boss rotating boss fights. the one in the beta had a passive where you had to hit it multiple times in a turn or it has like a 50% damage mitigation so they'll probably make each rotation catered to their new gacha characters ala genshin impact
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>>543532290
spend on dupes, paynigger!
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>>543531505
It will prob be fine. I think The seasonal changes are "god" card upgrades so it will only be two extra cards for every card. Plus since it rotates out, they can obviously reuse or shuffle old ones back in.
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>>543532290
my guess is "scoring autism"
>>543532542
that's just a weekly chore for unlocking your units' potential
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>>543532123
as does any retards pc that got any kernel anticheat installed on them.
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>>543531497
>Games you play?
Granblue Fantasy/Elin/E7
>Favorite CZN character from looks/feeling alone?
Rin
>Hopes and fears for the game?
Hopes? a good story
Fears? the kits getting too locked behind dupes
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>>543532402
uma endgame is pvp though
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>>543532876
well it was the only challenging thing in the beta
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the powercreep is gonna btfo any f2poor. dont bother. theres no way they put in the 50/50 slop without plans to creep and FOMO farm until eos
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>>543533190
>waits three weeks so the new powercreep unit will be available in the poverty shop for 300 internet coins
Not my problem
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>>543533190
can you stop dooming my game pls im actually excited for this one
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>>543533190
especially with the farmable dupes. no way they don't make that grind take years. finally grind 2 dupes for your team? good thing the new upgrade just released that requires 2 dupes to work properly
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>>543532498
holy fucking retard
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Well?
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>>543532001
there's some chaos god(s?) that essentially work like the divine epiphany iirc unless you meant something else. i believe in the roguelite world selection screen it says if that world is under some beings presence, and i guess they're also a rare random occurrence like the divine epiphany.
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>>543533349
i am too but anon... lets be honest with ourselves. weve been here before.
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>>543533190
>the powercreep is gonna btfo banana pickers
Thank god.
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>>543533405
Well what?
Do you need me to tell you where you live?
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>doubles your teams damage
>plays 2 attacks from your graveyard for massive damage
>removes 2 cards from your deck for free
>makes your extra attacks do a billion damage
Truly best girl. And she's only a 4*.
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>>543533402
Anon I played both CBT1 and CBT2. You have no fuckin idea what you're talking about. This is your final (You).
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I'm playing this for the story
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>>543533614
>xhe wants to play games with /vmg/ threads that get replies once a week
for what purpose, anon?
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>>543533614
if you're gonna spend money on an anime card game, you might as well just buy chrono ark. lucy, sizz and charon are cuter than any character in this game anyways
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>>543533063
>uma musume
>pvp
no such thing
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>>543533630
The place I live is considered both both Europe or Asia depending on who you ask..
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>>543516263
We'll have to see if they do something retarded like double the costs of pulls and half the pull rates.
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>>543533963
Hello Ivan
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>we heard your complaints about the story
>We have now implemented traumatic side stories
>It's dark and edgy
>Main story?
>Sorry but that won't change
The runs running this game are clowns
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>>543533963
turkish scum
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>>543533870
>spend on my dead kusoge
mmm, word?
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>>543534234
Look at this runt running his mouth.
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>>543533727
bwo no one cares about the boomer shooter GaaS slop genre anymore. just stop
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>>543532201
>Mindbreak happens
>They become literally useless for several turns
Why would I want this?
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>>543534269
you're purposely gonna play the gachaslop card game while ignoring the perfectly packaged standalone game that'll probably be more complex and rewarding than this game will ever be
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>>543534430
They did say it will get darker in future main chapters. I am fine with them not literally rewriting the main story to make it darker, forcing stuff like that doesn't work in storytelling very well. But they can write future stories with that in mind at least.
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>>543534553
>cant auto through games or life
the absolute state
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>>543533963
If I was Russian I'd pick global.
Not sure how it would affect your ping though.
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>>543533870
I already put 200 hours in that game. It was very good.
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So before we get into the game.
Is there any character that's clearly heads and shoulders above everyone else that I should be re-rolling for?
I don't really care about re-rolling unless something is ridiculously strong.
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>>543534618
kek why is there an escape tube
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What's up with all the retardposting in this thread, I thought card games were supposed to be for above average IQ white people?
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>>543535058
reroll for m*les
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>>543535176
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>543535060
natural selection
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>>543535058
probably khalipe but apart from the 5* rabbit girl apparently they're all good. maybe she gets buffed in live, who knows
>>543535165
the game being a gacha filters out the high iq posters from participating in the threads
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>>543535165
sorry fag, I'm playing this game for the furries and mori calliope. chrono shart just cant compare in that aspect
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>>543535058
>Khalipe
>Nia
>Any shield generator
Those are your reroll targets
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>>543535058
The kung fu red head and the shielder lioness
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>>543535165
>plays gachas
>complains about retards
anon... i
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>>543535058
we dont know because they rebalanced some characters from the beta tests. it WAS Khalipe but they changed her from a tanky dps/bruiser to more of a full on tank. just pick who you think is the coolest or maybe just roll for the first banner character Haru(she is not limited, she will go to standard banner as soon as her banner ends)
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What's wrong with the Pc client?
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>>543535058
Khalipe was that but she's nerfed. No need to reeoll unless you particularly hate furry shit or want to have 2+ 5-star characters in beginner banner pulls, since getting an early doesn't stop this banner from working and you'll get another one at the end
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>>543535432
you VILL install the pc virus and you VILL pay for the privilege
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>>543535165
mix of skinner box addicts chasing the latest high, and stella sora bringing out the /vg/ shitposting brigade and spilling over
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>>543535058
The furry
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>>543535560
People keep saying this but how do you know this when she wasn't nerfed during the test
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Do counterattacks turn off Rin's stance? I wanna pair her with Maribell for the tits.
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>3 retarded answers
I shouldn't have asked
>>543535714
you are correct however
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>>543535432
Nothing.
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>>543531269
Yeah, 15 years of legacy content yet all they brought were some shitty bosses nobody cares about or remember well and I guess smelter demon and nameless king. Wheres the fume knight, gundyr etc etc. All those boses would work fine with elden ring movement and speed. Not even talking about simple stuff like weapons.
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>>543535560
dont listen to this dipshit. if you dont land at least one good 5* dps, your acc is gigabricked. min or ranoa, someone that can synergize
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>>543535165
The test was actually really terrible. If nothing was changed it'll be dead
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>>543535747
Idk ask this guy >>543535367
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>>543535786
no one gives a single fuck about that e7 garb, unc
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>>543535786
Exactly, and the lack of weapons too is just fucking baffling, how could you not bring over staples like Ringed knight greatswords for Wylder or Nito's greatsword so Revenant gets cool weapons too, its just a MASSIVE fucking dissapointment in practically all fronts, just one fucking map with one preferred weapon class and generic ass weapons and passives for every "hero" just pathetic, It didn't kill my faith in from soft since its just a single game but damn
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>>543535747
Her latest skill showcase video on the official channel shows her ult being completely different. It used to be a big aoe damaging skill and now it's just a shield. Also the costs for some of her abilities changed(for worse)
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>>543535294
isn't rabbit 4*?
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>>543536337
the lop-eared one with a massive crossbow
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>>543535165
Lucy's game was peak.
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so the reroll strategy is to roll on the rate ups and save the new player banner for later?
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I don't reroll
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we got the influencers bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUeiMiBCs-U
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>>543536091
>>543535786
For all its flaws I did have a decently fun time with it.
Were it not for that month of downtime with no new content where they were just recycling pairs of the first 3 enhanced bosses I would have kept playing.
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>>543537331
no one asked nor cares
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>>543537139
Same. Just praying I get a hot anime girl and not a furry.
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>>543537331
Thanks, I was just going to ask for this.
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>>543537370
If I don't consider the content issue which is its single most glaring and blatant flaw I didn't really like the balancing, which is just standard for fromsoft games I know but in this game where run variety is meant to be what drives you forward to boot up another match I found it to be extremely lacking. Every single match with Wylder,Raider and Executor which were my 3 favorites was just the same, I get the weapon type that the character likes, stack up useful passives, run Nokstella or whatever else is on the map then either die to the boss and have to do it all over again or just beat it and that's it, I got bored of it after 60 hours so I just stopped at 67
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>>543537331
thanks bro
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>>543516074
Everyone is playing Stella Sora instead.
This garbage gacha deleted the female MC so it's an anti-yuri flop guaranteed.
Only F2P browns who like ML will play this.
Come Play Stella Sora instead.
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>>543538419
Most subtle MLcuck falseflag
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nice falseflag
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>>543538419
I think i'll just play with my cock instead
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Do I download this game? I've heard that Stella Sora is as good as fucked. How about this game?
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>>543538681
there'll probably be a lot more whalebait than stellar sora but if you like card games and have already played all the better ones, you might as well give this a shot
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>>543537331
wow, I was waiting for this!
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>>543538419
>play stella sora
>stamina gated for 20+ hours
ok bro, can I be here now?
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>>543535560
>since getting an early doesn't stop this banner from working and you'll get another one at the end
is that confirmed? in some gachas I've tried if you get an early 5* then the guaranteed one doesn't happen
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>>543538419
Stella Sora is doa bro. No one wants to deal with that shit economy.
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>>543538406
>>543537901
>>543537386
>>543538858
ur welcome bros don't forget to hit the subscribe button
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>login on Stove
>5 seconds to load
>get hit with a popup ad
>go to library
>5 seconds to load
>get hit with another popup ad
jesus christ I've had chink malware less intrusive than this
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>start up stove, give it permissions
>takes too long to start
>login screen after 5 seconds gives connection unstable message
>close the message, click the login field
>entire window unresponsive
>a few seconds go by, try to login again
>connection unstable... closing due to security reasons
stove is actually unusable... I hope they know a ton of people are going to be trying to use their stove client to log in on launch in a couple of hours
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>>543538482
>>543538560
>>543539014
>>543539705
I didn't ask MLcucks
You browns just hate yuri. You're literally gay.
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>>543540071
how am I gay if I love to play with cock?
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>>543540071
Don't you have anything better to do than falseflag?
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>>543539854
I was typing my post while you posted this, pretty funny
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works on my machine
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It's only been a day and Yurifags from that game are already this obnoxious
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>>543540071
farming (You)s doesn't put food on the table or pay the bills lil bro, don't bother
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>>543535560
according to the JP stream the beginner banner is gone when you get your first 5*
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>chaos zero revenue
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>>543540524
rabitch why is there zero hype for this game? it gets decent views on social media even compared to stella sora, but somehow a full 24 hours before ss the thread was going crazy and here it's like 4 posters
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>>543540071
>yuritranny subhuman sperging out
like clockwork
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>>543540798
Because people can tell at a glance that this is going to be pure whalebait garbage. Stella Sora's greed came out of left field.
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>>543535165
We are on release day
Every single gacha tourist is here, expect the lowest IQ shitposting for the next few days until the next thing releases
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>>543540950
>Every single gacha tourist
Considering the thread speed, I don't think that's true.
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Good rolls and no homo will come for you, if you reply "CHOCO MILKY I LOVE AMIR"
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>>543540427
>Yurifags
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>>543540935
this week has been fucked
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>>543541053
CHOCO MILKY I LOVE AMIR
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>>543541005
give it some time
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>>543528632
It was a blast though
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im going to spend $100 on this and if i dont get anything i like i'll drop the game
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>>543541053
>is a worthless 4-star
Like 80% of the slutty waifus.
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>>543541250
all mine are partners with zero screen time...
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>>543541202
>he thinks shitjeets play gacha
Lmao anon the brown cancer within the gacha sphere is SEAmonkeys.
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>>543541250
>>is a worthless 4-star
That won't stop me from playing her.
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>>543541053
CHOCO MILKY I LOVE AMIR
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>>543540798
Something with this game is just not clicking and looks pretty generic. Duet Night suffers from same problem but they went with pretty big move, gaining a lot of attention
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>>543541053
amir sounds like a male sandpeople name
looking it up it literally means prince in arabic (ie emir)
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>>543541250
>worthless

she was part of the strongest beta team which consisted of taking no damage with huge barriers and doing 10 counterattacks whenever the opponent dared to touch anything.
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CZN will flop. E7 is eternal.
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Priscilla is a fucking partner, wtf is wrong with gooks man
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>>543541815
Considering E7 live solely due to pvp autism and there are no contender in that regard, yea.
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>>543540798
ss had people thinking it was a second blue archive, a second dragalia lost
also yostar had a fair amount of goodwill with azur lane and arknights players
it really is impressive how badly they fucked it up
usually it takes a few days before people figure out it's greedy, but here you're gated after a few hours even if you play casually
if anything that is bringing in more people to czn
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If the geniuses behind Rabi made this game, where are the Rabi edits??
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>need 3 characters and 3 partners to build a basic deck
>you also need up to 6 dupes of each character for a completed deck
I'm not surprised people aren't hyped for this.
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>just straight up lying
Why stir shit up, answer me
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>>543542082
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>>543540071
only cuckolds love yuri
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>>543541573
I thought it looked pretty nice, or at least the character art and the bgs.
>>543542054
yeah, I was definitely going to try it but it has too many red flags for me unfortunately. which sucks for me because I have nothing to look forward to again. guess I'll just cope on hopium that yostar has some integrity remaining.
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Hey, I just found out about this game, and while I'm not a gacha player, I'm interested in the gameplay. I have a few questions, hoping someone can give me some insight:

1. I can't get the pre-registration rewards anymore, right? I created my account on the website, but I didn't see any pre-registration rewards anywhere (I think gachas usually do that).
2. What's the gacha like? Is there a good pull economy? I don't mind spending money on the game if I like it, but I'd like to know how stingy the devs are first.
3. Do I always have to have that shitty Stove launcher open on my PC to play?

Thanks in advance for the answers.
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>>543542714
This is going to be pure whalebait bro.
It's not going to be great as a first gacha experience.
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COWS ZERO NIGHTMARE
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>>543542714
Just download it, as far as I know pre-reg rewards are distributed to everybody
Gacha is 50/50 at 70 rolls, guaranteed banner unit/partner at 140. Rates go up starting from 57th roll, currency income still unknown.
Unfortunately yes
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So, what are you guys doing until launch? I'm playing some more of the HoMM Olden Era demo.
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>>543542714
1.You'll get all the rewards.
2.We'll have to wait and see.
3.Yes.
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>>543543054
playing stella sora
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>>543542054
>if anything that is bringing in more people to czn
100%, I had no intention of playing CZN, but because I already uninstalled SS despite thinking I was going to play it for at least a week or two, I'm here instead.
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if a week goes by and people here are clamouring about the amazing gameplay and fair gacha system I'll give it a try on my tablet, but no way am I using stove I already uninstalled. starting day 1 is great and all, but it all evens out in the end anyway.
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>>543543054
Servers open at 5 AM tomorrow for me and it's currently 10 PM.
I'm just going to sleep and rise early.
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>>543543263
Same bro
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>>543543402
If it's 10 pm for you right now then you are UTC+1 so the server opens at 4 am for you, not 5.
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Who are we jerking off to?
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>>543543864
The release Countdown on prydwen says 7 hours from now.
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>CZN opens
>Luna 2 opens
>GBF huge patch drops
>AK Ex stages opens
>just started Stella Sora
FUCK
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>"Heh, looks like you just lost your 50/50, faggot. Bend over and get ready for the red knot."
Who thought this would be a good idea?
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>>543544662
>delete account
Anyone hear anything?
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>>543544662
>red knot
>not red rocket
You had one job.
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>>543542940
It's not my first gacha, I've played Hoyoslop previously and Reverse 1999 casually.
>>543543039
>>543543095
Thanks anons, that crappy launcher really runs bad on my PC for some reason but if the game is good, I can live with it.
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>>543516074
What's the economy situation for this game looking like? better than SS I hope?
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>>543544662
>giving you the mind break experience for full immersion
Based Kim.
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>>543544662
I think the big doggo man is preferable to any actually human males. Is that weird?
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>>543545015
income during playtest was absolute dogshit, we'll see
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>>543545015
Does it matter when a pull gets you male units?
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>>543544662
There's 0 reasons for this game to have male characters.
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>>543545015
they could do anything as we found out with ss
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>>543545093
As MC yeah
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>>543545093
Luke would be okay for me, but definitely would prefer Hugo to that fag Kayron
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[IMPORTANT QUESTION]
How COOM heavy is the game? This knowledge is important to me when deciding whether to try it.
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How does this game treat (You) in the literal sense? do you have dates or any form of relationship with the characters you pull or is it more like the conventional top ranking gachas where they're just playable and maybe have like 2 lines for (You) and that's it.
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>>543544662
>voiced by nakamura
He's fine by me.
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>>543545015
>4% banner rate
income will be fucking shit to make up for it
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>>543545438
Better than chinkslop, worse than gookslop.
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>>543545438
You'll be too busy thinking to direct any bloodflow to your penis
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>>543545015
This always a retarded question people ask right when a game launches. There are games where events are 99% of your income, and games where dailies are like 50% of your income. And games where first-clears are 90% of your income. And no one knows which it is until the first event
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>all loli characters are equipment cards
my disappointment is immeasurable
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this game's combat might be too complicated for me bros... am I just a brainlet
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>>543545463
There's an affinity mechanic far more substantial than Mihoyo for sure as the dev did advertise that too. I think it would fall in line with something like FGO maybe? You basically have story and go out with them as they babble about their past emotional dump their trauma on you.
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>>543545853
Is there not auto battle?
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>>543545853
just drag the cards into the enemy
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>>543545935
I haven't played FGO, but I have played ZZZ and BA, I like both of their relationship systems quite a bit, BA is on top when it comes to stuff like this of course but if the game does something similiar its already good enough, to me having that connection with the characters is pretty important
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Anyone know a good guide(written or youtube) for getting into the game?
I didn't play the CBT so I'm going in mostly dark.
I know prydwen has a reroll guide which I'll likely use if I pull m*les.
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>>543545853
some anon said its like a2/a3 in spire. just play your hand lmao
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>>543546156
Don't worry the game targets are faggot and waifufag, each character as a story and you spend energy similar to Nikke to advise them, then your bond increase, you get the point classical gachage mechanic
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>>543545853
Does a card seem to synergize with another one?
Yes? Then its probably good enough.
By the time you get to the hard content that will require actual deckbuilding and fine tuned Data saves. You will understand enough to figure stuff on your own.
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>>543546414
Faggots? you mean because of the homos?
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>>543545463
So far in the beta main story they push renoa quite a bit as the main girl. All the other combatants have a more admiration/respect feel towards (You). Every character has affinity events at the main ark base but they're pretty short. For example for Mei Lin you unlock helping her with homework iirc, and Rei has a cooking scene.
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>>543546168
There's some bassic official guides, which seemed good enough for getting into the game The "content" creator ones are mostly either useless tierlists (since there were rebalances since cbt) or clickbsit, Do X (literally just your dailies) or your account is fucking ruined! subscribe to my channel for more tips and guides
If you have even a basic understanding of card games you should be fine
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>male characters
>no lolis
>no auto battle
eos within a year
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>>543546625
A year worth of content, for free?
That's amazing!
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>>543546517
No, because we are gay here.
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how hard is it to reroll for a Haru??
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>>543546168
gacha tabi is nice
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>Emulators are blocked
>PC client doesn't work
nice game, CZNbabs
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>>543546934
Skill issue.
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>>543546913
I don't know why, but I find it really hard to understand what he's saying.
I don't think it's the accent. I think it's a combination of his mic and my speakers just makes what he's saying sound like brown noise.
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>>543546518
I see
>Admiration and respect
That's good too, making a lackluster, weak and dense main character is all the rage right now because of genshin and HSR being best sellers despite having the worst protagonists I have ever seen in gacha. You don't even need to make the MC some sort of deviantart OC or anything like that, just make them competent at what they do and have them actually relay what you think the playerbase would feel in any given moment. BA does this quite well with Sensei
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>>543547275
yeah unfortunately i don't think you're gonna find someone with a better mic setup that puts out such straight forward content and isn't the usual youtuber gacha-hype type
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>>543531497
Too many
If its just looks then Orlea is giga sex but I wasn't too huge on her gameplan. Maybe Haru will fare better.
My biggest concerns were trauma being an absolute letdown despite the game heavily marketing it as a selling point and the tone of the game being way lighter than I thought it would be. Both of these have been addressed by the devs though which is promising. I don't think I'll ever like the city management shit though. Honestly I just hope the gameplay is deep enough to stick around cause it was also one of my concerns with the beta.
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>>543546518
If one girl is going to be pushed as the "main" one, they should be available for free.
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>Chinese character
>female, knows kung fu and has a stereotypical name
she's cute when she's mindbroken at least
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>>543541557
Who the fuck is datamining this shit that you can still see those choppy outlines.
Who's got the files? Give them to me!
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>>543535165
>gachagarbage
>for high-iq white people
funniest shit i've seen all week.
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this shit keeps randomly popping up
the client isn't even doing anything i already downloaded the game
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Is it not possible to agree to the terms of service on the PC Client? Agree is just greyed out no matter what for me.
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>>543540071
>brown subhumans call their opponents brown derogatorily when they want to attack others' character
why are shitskins like this?
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>>543547401
Unless they changed the story since beta, the MC in CZN doesn't really do anything, he just stands there and lets other people tell him what to do but everyone loves him
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>>543531497
Card games, Legends of Runeterra was my favorite until Riot killed it
Narja is best girl
>Fears
Game is stingier than Hoyoshit and flops and dies before the year ends
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>>543549639
scroll down
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Reminder there is gear rng autism from E7/HYV games which they've been real quiet about.
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Any cute glasses girls in this game?
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>>543548683
I love Chinese women
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>>543550368
>which they've been real quiet about.
probably because it doesn't exist anymore disinfobro
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>>543549132
Click on anything that isn’t the stove game (e.g., store, library, lounge) and minimize the launcher
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>>543548683
At least her design is more simplistic than other chinese characters these days...
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>>543550738
even for ZZZ standards this is a lame as fuck design. They really peaked with Yixuan and called it a day
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>>543550397
This is the only playable girl with glasses.
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>>543550738
Hoyo designs are so bloated it's insane
A girl doesn't need multicolored hair, thighbands, asymmetrical leggings and a billion accessories to be cute. goddamn
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>>543550368
>>543550684
We literally see "memory fragments" in the newer videos
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>>543550738
ExZZZer here, when they have shown those designs I just gave up and ended up here.
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>>543549983
Nah that wasn't the problem. I thought the check box was an expand/collapse icon.
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>>543550998
She looks cute enough.
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>>543550368
sauce?
>i made it up
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so what emulator do i use for rerolling, mumu gets error 130000 emulator detected and closes
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>>543531497
Just learned about this game from an /svg/ anon. I really liked Chrono Ark so I'm excited for this game.
Although none of the characters so far really appeal to me so far, since I like girl's academy elegant yuri onee-sama types.
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>>543551337
emulators dont work
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>>543550998
she's also the most overpowered 4* by far. insane healer
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>>543551337
you dont
you use the pc client and just delete your account
you can reroll but not multi-reroll
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>>543551337
emulators are blocked
you have reroll 1 instance at a time on the shitty PC client
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>>543551337
Run VMs with the PC client in each one
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>>543549824
Is that so? well, I'll check it out anyway, if anything I'm going into this expecting anime slay the spire more than the next big waifu game
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>>543546625
there is auto
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have you guys tried on an unrooted emulator yet
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>>543551337
Bluestacks also gets that error but LDPlayer worked for me.
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>each reroll takes 15-20 minutes
jesus christ, how important is it to hit one of these characters?
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>this is official marketing
You will reroll for her, right?
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You get the patch error because the game hasn't been patched...retards
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>>543552013
I don't reroll for delusional single-target gimmick DPS units
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>>543552013
nyes
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>>543551671
It's the usual "You lost your memories for some reason but you we're fucking awesome before so well try to make you recover it by letting you go to dangerous place, therapy...? What's that?"
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>>543552013
Im luckshitting her
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>>543552138
more like "you lost your memory of what happened in the previous mission" but you're right about everything else, hope the story gets better after
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>>543552000
>we won't make a tier list, we literally don't know what the lategame looks like
>but also here's who to reroll for
hmmm
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>>543550738
YO PHON LINGIN
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>>543552138
I thought that the progression system is chaos -> get save data -> deep trauma -> proc as many mental breaks as possible -> therapy -> get buffs based on mental breaks -> rerun deep trauma and try to get even more mental breaks/better rolls from therapy
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>uninstalled and reinstalled Stove
>updated Drivers
>restarted PC
>still getting infinite "Updating etc" loop where the launcher doesn't even start and is stuck at 0% forever, I have to kill it with task manager just to close the program
Anyone know how to fix this or am I just going to get cucked out of playing the game?
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>>543552562
don't you guys have phones???
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>>543552562
what's wrong with your pc man? mine is a toaster and it just werks™ with it
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>>543552000
It's not. The best support in the game is the guitar girl who is 4*. The difference between the launch DPS is negligible. The only one who is even sorta important is Khalipe because she fulfills two roles at once (AoE damage+shielding), but you don't need her to complete content.
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>>543552343
This is racist.
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>>543552562
no idea works for me sorry
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how important are dupes in this game? and im guessing i can only get them via the gacha and not via some dailies etc. like neural cloud?
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>>543552000
not important because they have been since changed from the beta and literally NO ONE
absolutely NO PERSON knows what is actually going to be good past the early stages of the game so theres literally no info about who is good or bad.
The only confirmed good character is Mika because she enables any other strat.

Your best bet is to roll for whoever you like the playstyle and stick to it.
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>>543552787
>The only one who is even sorta important is Khalipe because she fulfills two roles at once (AoE damage+shielding), but you don't need her to complete content.
is she the damage-scaling-off-defence character, like ironclad in StS?
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>>543553007
yeah it scales off of her own defense stat, i think it was 80% defense 20% attack? i can't remember the ratio from the playtest
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>>543552948
very
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>>543552719
GTX 4060 14400f on windows 11. it's a fairly common setup so I'm really surprised it doesn't work, I'm not even an AMDcuck.
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>>543553302
weird, i'm a gaymd user and have no issues. try asking on the online forum
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>>543552787
They nerfed Khalipe she does far less aoe now.
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>>543552948
You can buy 2 dupes in the shop with ingame currency and get universal freebie dupes from events. They were important in the beta but supposedly were nerfed for launch.
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Rabi sisters when is she coming to CZN
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>>543553546
she actually does more AoE because her gimmick card doesn't come up until you use her 3 cost four times instead of three in the playtest
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>>543553763
Our greatest blessing is that Rabi is forever contained in E7 as it falls into EoS
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Am I not gonna be able to bind my guest account if I pre-downloaded on pc?
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>>543553924
Trickcal literally just released globally.
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>>543535294
TCGs are basically the og gacha
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>>543554119
you should be able to, but there's no point since you can just erase player data whenever you want
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>>543554119
You won't need to since there's a reset server option.
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>>543554358
>>543554409
Thank fuck, I got misinfo'd that you can't reroll on pc and was about to crash out.
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Why do all the 5 stars look like 4 stars? Not a single appealing launch character
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how active is the MC? is it like nikke but with homos
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>>543555041
passive but apparently they're working to change that during future chapters
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so there's no point to building mono teams right?
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>>543555231
aren't you entertained already with gfl2?
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>>543554994
>Why do all the 5 stars look like 4 stars?
Not true, Hugo stands out a lot.
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>>543555380
ZZZ already did the well dressed fighting furry
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>>543548989
I think this is ripped from the pre-registration web page
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>>543552907
>>543552562
>>543553406
It was my router blocking it because it thought Stove was malware. I used a phone hotspot to install it and that fixed it.
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>>543555502
Silence hoyoshill
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>>543531497
Aside from other gacha I mainly play single player games and sometimes Dota with friends (but it's more like a background activity while we talking). I like card games, so I hope this game is good, because after shadowverse became as unfun as possible there is no alive ccgs left. LoR was good, but it's dead. Same with Gwent, it was so good, but the devs are retarded.
Favourite character design-wise is Serithea, but the devs hate money and success and she isn't playable afaik.
Hoping for less homos and shipshit and more interactions between (you) and the girls. It saved bd2 abs it'll help this game too.
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I'll blow $200 in this game if I can get Rabi
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We’re hyped to roll for him right bros?
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I got burnt out rerolling for stella sora and considering just rolling with who i get with my initial start for this game
Anyone else doing the same?
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5h left, right?
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>>543557640
Rerolling is the best part of playing a new gacha (yes i'm autistic)
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>>543557640
It doesn’t seem like you’ll need to follow meta too hard anyways, just use girls you like
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>>543557640
if a game is a kusoge i don't reroll
if i think ill play it for a long time i reroll
simple as
this game will be the latter, whereas i could smell the stink of stella shit a mile away and did not reroll in that game
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>>543557507
Not rerolling so if he shows up I uninstall and move on. Same if I get any other male
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Caossu Zero Naitomeah
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>>543557640
depends if this gacha has a shitass gacha system like stella sora
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>>543557640
>playing stella sora in the first place
ngmi
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>>543557507
Insta uninstall.
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>>543558118
It’s pretty fun besides whatever retard they had in charge of the gacha systems desu
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>>543557951
You aren't as smart as you think i'm afraid.
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>>543557802
>5h left, right?
yes
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>>543558471
I dropped it because of picrel
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>>543518109
Veronica.
Or maybe that golden skull guy that's just a big fucking RNG gambler build. I love that shit.
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>>543559654
Nothing RNG about "draw 1 card from graveyard/deck", he's great
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>>543516467
>tfw no microbikini shotas like picrel in fucking anything
fuck my stupid chud life
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>>543559517
what am I looking here? character interaction is basically copy/paste of each other?
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>>543559517
Yeah that shit is really bad, they’ll probably fix it eventually but it definitely doesn’t inspire confidence. Easy EoS if they don’t turn shit around fast
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>>543542054
>>543543263
>>543543645
Yeah... yeah...
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>>543560030
yeah, its extremely soulless
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Is this really slay the spire kino but with hot anime women? because if it is I'm in
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>>543561008
Yeah but you gotta pay a thousand bucks for a complete deck.
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>>543561008
no, that's Chrono Ark. this is slay the spire kino but with hot anime women and f2p monetization from hell.
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>>543561008
It is
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>>543561008
it's slay the spire but only goes up to A5 in difficulty
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>>543561221
>Chrono Ark
>hot anime women
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>>543561273
*blocks you're path*
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>>543561273
You are not going to bait me into posting Momori ass so i will give you Chocolate ass instead
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Do I really have to install this gook spyware launcher to play? Why didn't they just release it on steam?
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>>543561535
I remember some censorship thing about the red haired girl but there was an option for or something. Is that correct?
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I will not reroll so if I get the furry I am uninstalling. Good luck out there.
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Is it worth turning on a VPN to set up my account as JP for the much better prices?
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>>543561907
what makes you think that trick works
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>>543561960
because when I go to make an account on their website it explicitly says it's going to use the location for the currency?
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>>543562104
I'm pretty sure VPNs are blocked. Go ahead and check for me at launch.
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>>543558471
>"skins" for characters are wallpapers and don't change the 3d models
>Copy pasted character events (going to cause way more backlash when compared to BA, ZZZ or Uma's handcrafted events for literally every character)
>utterly retarded element system designed to brick your characters and ripe for raping your wallet
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>>543561232
Was every mode available during beta?
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>>543562291
I'll make an account on my throwaway email with the VPN and see if it lets me play without it on launch then.
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>STOVE
this game is cooked fr
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>>543562545
No, there were locked modes.
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>>543541557
This is a great design, do I need to reroll for her?
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>>543562776
You get her for free, she's also the worst character in the game (in beta at least, hopefully buffed)
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>>543562924
Too easy then, I'm set. Brown girls are enough for me to play any gachage.
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>>543562924
Wasn't there a bunch of changes to every character after that one post-beta interview?
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>>543516074
How long until release?
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>>543562687
Nice, they at least need to make it hard for all the roguelite farming we will have to do to make the teams
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>>543563876
Tree fiddy (4 hours)
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>>543544662
The gacha devs do this so picrel happens on day 1 and players are forced to start all over again and spend more.
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Is phone or PC better for rerolling? I don't really want to fuck with that stove shit.
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There are canon milfs on the game? Or atleast mom coded characters
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hello is this game woke?
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>>543564634
PC if you're willing to get it working on LDplayer. Emulators are blocked, but LD's worked for me and allows multi-instancing outta the box.
Otherwise phone.
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>>543564932
Honestly my PC's probably not strong enough to multi-instance this game. I'm only running a 2060 with a ryzen 3700x.
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>>543564479
I feel blessed to not have that lion fucker on my account still
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>>543564881
Absolutely. Tell the rest of SEA about it.
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>>543564479
I did quit Wuwa because of this
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If I get male'd on launch I may quit
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Every gacha I've tried for the past couple of years has been 3D RPG style (except GFL2, but even that's going that direction now). Hopefully I like this game because there are so few alternatives to that sort of gameplay.
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>just found out that literally all the characters that drew me in aren't actually playable characters but instead this game's weapon equivalents
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I was attracted by the art design and the premise, but my expectations are overall pretty damn low all things considered, especially due to the furfaggotry. Not a fan of that. I'll try it out, spend $0 unless it convinces me otherwise through either story or gameplay.
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>>543565530
The bland playable characters will kill this game
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>>543565530
it do be like that
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>>543564479
I unironically did this, spent over $400, probably more, got the lionfag and uninstalled the same day. I had a good run without losing 50/50s but the game got boring anyways.
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>>543565692
this is not stella sora though
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>>543518109
Any girl with big tits or unironically the furry boi,
So I've got a 50% chance of playing this game.
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>>543565860
Man the characters in that game made me uninstall instantly, I didn't even look at the gacha rates, just bland simplistic nothing art.
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>>543561008
Nah, thats Morimens
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>>543565530
>the hot pink dragon girl makes me want to play
>holy shit dude there's a whole fucking faction of them
>
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>>543565181
I only got him recently as a day 1 so i was pretty lucky. Staying at lvl 1.
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>>543565460
>there are so few alternatives to that sort of gameplay.
lolwut?
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I do think there’s a degree of mental illness to just quit a game for a male appearing
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>>543564479
Unironically uninstalled it because of this little shit.
>RAWR! Sorry you had to see that side of me.
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>>543565460
GFL2 is very 3D nowadays.
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>>543566229
Name any remotely successful gacha from the past couple of years that isn't that style of game. I can only think of Uma Musume (which is a nearly 5-year-old game).
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Is Khalipe really that much better than Magna?
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>>543566375
>tits so fat they fall on her sides
I WANT TO SUCK ON THOSE MILKERS
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>>543565961
Yea most of the cast is pretty bland.
>Meanwhile the NPCs
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>>543566375
What the fuck. Is that one of those thicc mods?
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>>543566340
Give them to me for free and I don't mind. I don't want to get spooked by one in the gacha.
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>>543566657
No that's just how she looks.
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>>543566379
>any remotely successful
So you’re moving goalposts now? There are a lot of gacha games that aren’t 3D rpgs. Shit just for card games similar to CZN there’s R1999 and Morimens
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>>543566657
Nope
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Someone tell me if this game has any flat women?
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>>543566657
straight from the game
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>>543566379
Limbus
Arknights
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>>543566047
Is it too late to start Morimens?
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Who's your fav design?
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>>543566340
I think that's fair, because women on the gacha development teams have mental breakdowns and become suicidal when they are told "do not ship the male character with MC's girls"
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>>543566769
>>543566958
I said last couple of years. Never heard of Morimens.
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>>543566729
Boobs jiggling has improved so much over the years its amazing to witness
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How long has the game been out in Korea?
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>>543566729
>>543566916
Shit dude. Glad I dropped it. Is she the first of her kind or have there been more mega monsters like this?
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>>543567151
She's by far the biggest but she's not the first of her kind, after all the characters are from the original game. There are other titwcows in the other original game's 400+ character cast, although she's the main one.
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>>543566692
I was spooked by 4 male 5 stars in the cbt but the game overall was still fun but I’d rather reroll than just quit the game outright since this appeals to me more than sts
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>>543566657
She's a BFG.
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>>543566340
yes those people are mentally ill closeted fags. it's why any time they see a guy in a game they think immediately think about gay sex
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>>543567105
R1999 october 2023
Morimens august 2024
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>>543545207
When you dont you run the risk normi3s find the game and call it problematic. So you include a few token males
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>>543567250
But who is it? I don't remember her from GF, but I stopped playing it after we were able to get Destroyer.
>>543567310
What gun?
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>>543566375
Do people really find this sexy? It's just fucking grotesque to me
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>>543567310
>>543566916
You can make her run or something? Sorry never played her game
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>>543567263
How hard is rerolling?
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>>543567410
If you find that "grotesque" then you genuinely have some sort of mental illness.
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>rerolling for 1.0 DPS chararacters
why do gacha players never learn?
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>>543567131
Dead or Alive did this 20 years ago
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>>543567513
Bruh they're bigger than her head
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>>543567395
dp-12
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>>543567410
A beautiful woman that isn't repulsed by me and let's me grab her.
How grotesque.
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Homosexual thread in the making here
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>>543567410
homo detected
opinion rejected
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>>543567410
You might want to check your pedo tendencies if you find a woman of that caliber anything other than pure sex.
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>>543567539
Of course thats why I said improving because a few years ahí the jiggling was too unnatural atleast for me, there's still room to get better tits movement
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>>543567131
? That's not even good jiggling bro
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>>543567532
They're meant to make your early progression easier and to let you snag a bit more rolls from weeklies and shit jeetbro nobody is expecting a 1.0 char to be meta 2 years later
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>>543567608
THAT'S DP-12? What in the fuck happened?
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>>543567532
Their skills will change every season and you’ll be able to get dupes through events and be able to buy 2 dupes outright with their gacha system out of the upcoming designs the only ones that appeal to me are not abyssal girl and the girl controlling 9 flying blades
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>>543567410
Yeah she looks like she has some kind of disease or was modded to be balloon tier.
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>>543567795
ZAAMN
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>>543567795
lol
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Lost Ark devs.....
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>>543567795
That's really good, thanks bro
>>543567746
The one we're she's dancing is kinda weird but the running and walking one are really good
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>>543567869
Perhaps they were desperate after the mass exodus with the explorable dorm system introduction.
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>>543516074
Because this game has to be mixed toilet shill me on the guys, are they at least kinda cool / attractive?
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>>543567725
>muh pedos
A real man loves cunny and cowtits all the same.
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>>543517870
Post this again at 10pm pst
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Would you recommend this game to a barafag like me?
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>>543567410
I wouldn't use the word grotesque. Uncanny, maybe?
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>>543568058
a werewolf furry, a Kirito wannabe and a void mage who actually is pretty cool admittedly
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>>543567410
nice bait
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>>543568240
This is twink central buddy, gay bar (Hoyoverse) is two blocks down.
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>>543568056
Nah, the exodus was like Jan 2024 and she's a late 2025 character.
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>>543566729
>>543566916
>>543566375
>>543567310
>>543567795
bros.... how can we compete????
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What's our guild name gonna be?
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>>543568560
Very easily
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>>543567795
Delish
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I was able to preload the game on LDplayer so I'm assuming it's not blocked after all?
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Do I need a good computer to play this game? My pc fucking died a week ago and I'm using a laptop for now.
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>>543518109
not rerolling, if i get a male or that furry im dropping the game and going back to stella sora to whale and apologize and thank for for no males
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What is the reason for adding men to the game? They look boring and there's very few of them. Women aren't going to play and men won't roll for them.
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The game is launching soon, that means we have to be ontopic.
No doro
No momoi
No rabi
No essex
No kot
Understand?
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>>543568776
Understood.
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>>543568776
No
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>actually releasing immediately on 22th instead of few hours before 23th
Well, this is funny.
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>>543568760
They exist just to make you feel like complete shit when you lose your 50/50 to them
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>>543568760
As a white, Aryan 6'3 man I have no problem rolling for dudes if they look cool. Not everyone is a SEAmonkey incel who desperately chases after the sex he can't have in real life.
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>>543567795
I would play if the gameplay wasn't so shit
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>>543568058
3 male to 4 female SSR equivalent on release is pretty rough honestly
Very few games survive this sort of gendered lineup
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>>543568776
Well fuck you too
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>>543531497
Gachas: Uma/ZZZ
Non-gachas: I like roguelites in general, played a lot of them
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I'm just here to laugh at you another EPIC FAIL in the making
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>>543568776
>Ok to doompost
As it should be.
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>>543568695
Sorry lil bro, Stella Sora is speedrunning to EOS, all the CCs told me so.
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>>543568760
government grant for diversity and inclusion, same reason why there are a bunch of black at the start of the game in E33, but none after the tutorial.
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try Avarice Dungeon if this flops
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>>543568979
I like Rin. The most "basic" type of character but i fall for them every time
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I really wish people would stop posting this helen chick. She's not going to be available on the english version like until a year from now
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Are there meta teams yet?
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>>543568760
To filter all the retards who play female only games (it won't work, they will still come here and complain because they're that stupid)
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>>543569206
Can't stop getting erect eh? good boya
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>>543569191
Try the superior card gacha if this flops, it releases tomorrow.

actually don't it's a literal NFT blockchain game
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>>543568776
get a load of THIS
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>>543568979
Neuron activated
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>>543568776
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>>543569243
Prydwen has no tierlist and for many others 4 stars felt strong even in the cbt
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>>543568979
The purples are the SSRs, right? They're not terrible at least, are the guys at least decent gameplay wise or are they low tier?
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>>543569243
Nia goes in every team for a +100% damage buff and playing attacks from your graveyard
Mika if you need more AP to play cards, Cassius if you need card draw
Khalipe or Maribell if you need to survive
then pick your favorite 5* DPS
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>>543569496
OwO who's this?!
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>BA
>AL
>Nikke
my type of people. I'm liking this place already
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Agreed
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>>543568776
roger that
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>>543568776
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>>543569496
wish he wasn't so lame :/
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>>543569750
>Nikke
Those are dolls, not nikkes
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>>543569750
I used to like Nikke until they started to go the genshin way
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>>543569993
explain
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>>543569496
My wild and silly son...
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>>543569993
warming up for anniversary shitposting i see
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>>543568687
pls
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>>543569704
All the DPS characters are roughly similar in output. The "bad" DPS like Veronica typically have card draw or some other utility as compensation for having lower DPS. All the males are good DPS but Luke needs 100% crit chance to feel good to use.
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>>543569993
I used to like Nikke before the Siren event. Never again. I will never go back.
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So... Korean or Japanese audio? I'm inclined to think KR, but it wouldn't be the first time that a language foreign to the devs has more effort put in.
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>>543569936
How's he lame?
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>>543570208
Siren is my wife, but she doesn't talk to me. Only pain and suffering from now on.
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>>543568971
>>543569276
Kek, you guys remind me of the Brown Dust 2 launch players. Everyone LOVES talking about how manly they are and that they like the guys who fuck the in-game girls, but no one was willing to spend a single cent on the guys and the game freefalled into EOS until they threw the guys away.
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>>543568979
Kayron and lucas are doing the same pose, they should atleast give them a signature weapon or something to differentiate them
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>>543569704
I’ve had the misfortune of rolling two gun dudes and 2 furry fixer but they were both pretty fun yeah. I’ve had one run where you can get the dual pistol guy to generate 5 0 cost bullets which was pretty fun he allegedly needs to play with other bullet users like his brother or renoa the mc’s adjutant so to speak since she also plays with bullets. For the furry guy if you get his stacks up any attack you do will have a follow up attack by his pet robo dog which deals a hefty amount of damage and he has a nice aoe for his ego skill
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Maribell looks like she farts a lot
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>>543570394
>Deflection
Done.
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>>543570394
Yeah it's complicated, i don't mind guys at all on the story or as a free characters bit i don't spend on them, maybe if it's like a robot or a cool/weird beast
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>>543570394
>survey about changing the male characters into females
This made me laugh for days. I still have BD2 installed just in case
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>>543570285
basic design, nothing really draws your eye, probably nothing going on underneath the surface. basically begging to be forgotten
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>>543570285
The other starter girl uses black holes and the other water magic its self explanatory how he’s lame but we could get alters down the line like how e7 did or we get skins that makes his fit not so shit either
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>>543569191
Isn't that a hentai game?>>543569206
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>>543570748
That didn't happen. There's no way.
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>>543570749
>>543570813
Aah. Least he's cute, but yeah would have been nice if he had more going on.
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It'll be really funny to watch this 50:50 ratio slowly turn into a 90:10 for females
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This Stove store literally just looks like a mobile emulator.
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>>543570748
Snowbreak did that with the NPCs, the original game was supposed to have tons of NPC shipping but they turned all the background NPCs into women.
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>>543570952
Fvark zzz 2 what are some cool males in e7 even i didn’t fuck around too much with that game and had more fun playing pvp in CounterSide before the great 2.0 rework
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>>543570952
It will be. Males don't sell and I doubt this game will make that much money even with the females.
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>>543568979
I must be blind but I don't see any cute or sexy loli character. They cant be that retarded to exclude something so mandatory unless they want the game to flop.
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>>543570872
here have a laugh
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>>543570952
It's already like 80:20
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>>543571143
>Males don't sell
>All your waifuslop mogged by Love and DeepSpace
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>>543571143
>self published
>card gacha niche
Games fine not like there’s competition anyways for the specific niche CZN is covering
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>>543571092
>male design looks better
lol. fellow moon global servers when?
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>>543571192
>Hoyoverse never includes questions like these in their surveys
Based
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>>543571092
I do like when a game makes drastic changes for better or for worse. It means they are at least trying.
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>>543571192
So it wasn't just
>do you want the males to become females
but
>do you want these romances between men and women to become between lesbians?
That's crazy.
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Can you use android emulator to play this?
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>>543571285
Which is completely focused on selling men to straight WOMEN. This does not work in mixed toilets. If you must include males in games like this, they should always be elite/4 star/a rank/SR or just free.
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>>543571456
no other gacha will ever have a fanbase as insane as snowbreak's though
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Watching Gacha Tabi's videos on this game, looks good.
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>>543571535
Honestly they've never really tried. The men in these games never have the focus or designs you would need to get straight women players.
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>>543571535
Eh Luke’s cool, Hugo was fun in a gameplay sense, and guy using black holes as magic is objectively cool the average person isn’t a die hard waifufag and some just wants a gacha with good gameplay and good gameplay can save a horrid gacha see wizardry variants Daphne
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>unironically typing out "mixed toilets"
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>>543571192
Don't let them get away with this shipshit, it literally ruined epic seven. Every bee female character is some male's onahole
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>>543571285
>SELF-INSERT HAREMSLOP DOESN'T SELL, WE NEED MIXED GENDER SHIPPING GACHAS
>LOOK AT THIS SELF-INSERT HAREMSLOP GAME AS AN EXAMPLE
bwo?
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>>543571817
excuse the /vmg/pag
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>>543571817
They need to be better men.
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>>543571478
Yeah it was a very extensive poll, from no romance at all to lesbian couple, funnily enough most of the people didn't care about males having canon romances so it was abig nothingburger but they're not adding males atleast for now
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>>543571817
>waifufagging bad
>posts image from troon gacha of ugly nigga character
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>>543571821
Majority of players selected to leave it. I don't know why they are wasting time on rewriting the early chapters. They are fine. The writing in BD2 is getting worse not better.
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>>543571821
You didn’t even have a mc in E7 though you were basically playing the role of the sword hero
>>543571729
Making female gaze male characters would just turn off the male players even more if they lose a coin flip to one trying for a girl they want so making it just a cool guy is a fineeeee compromise and women would still be attracted to them like how zzz does though it seems only barafags like banyue.
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>>543571285
It's always funny when fujofemcels bring up LADS to btfo the chuddies when the whole point of LADS is that it's a mono-pandering game that's aimed at women so it just supports the fact that omni-pandering is dogshit. Not to mention that 90% of the revenue of that game comes from China. The game barely exists outside of it. If you exclude the Chinese revenue then it's a middle of the shelf gacha at best and that's with it practically having zero competition.
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>>543571863
Point where in my post I said the first thing.
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Epic Seven died because its shitty pvp slop lol
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>>543571945
He cute
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>>543572056
Not to mention it's aimed at yumestacies specifically and fujo art gets banned in the same way Uma lewds get banned.
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>>543571456
gotta respect the bd2 devs for their crusade against ESRB ratings in order to save their game
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>>543572162
epic seven is still alive bwo
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>>543572182
>yumestacies
look at this fucking femcel
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>>543572056
They're just saying you're wrong for saying males don't sell when they do if you do it right, schizo-kun.
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>>543572056
Fujos were ordered to stay far away from the game, it's a pure love game for yumes.
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Almost there
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>>543572053
We did have an mc in e7, he was just deleted from the game once they started pandering to shipshit exclusively
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>>543572338
And they don't. Again, LADS practically has zero competition and 90% of its revenue comes from China.
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>>543570068
>removing MC from events
>/u/bait
>some characters literally dont talk to (you)
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>>543572053
I mean the ideal ratio would be having a guy that women and men both like, but that's not an easy feat.
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>>543572338
Except at this point it's a completely different game and genre entirely? LaDS players would go nuclear if you shoved a woman into the main cast or the gacha, all female NPCs are stuck in MC's office at her workplace, and didn't even have portaits at first.
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If you want guys to roll males you have to make something like pic related which would have 0 fans from females I assume unlike the males in CZN
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>>543572512
>Facts aren't real when I come up with cope excuses
Schizo-kun...
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>>543572495
No we didn't you drooling cretin, Ras was the 'main character' (it wasn't even that) and his main love interest was Mercedes, there was no player character
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>>543572578
People are mostly fine with manato in the /zzz/ not filled with shitposters what’s tough is I just don’t see women rolling for banyue in comparison to manato lmao
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>>543572682
>LaDS players would go nuclear if you shoved a woman into the main cast or the gacha, all female NPCs are stuck in MC's office at her workplace, and didn't even have portaits at first.
What does that have to do with anything? Who is saying put women in LADS?

Is this some weird automated deflection?
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>>543572751
Why am I even trying. Foids are literally incapable of logical thinking.
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LaDS being used to shill mixed-gender games confuses me, it's literally the equivalent of a ML waifufag game but for women.
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>>543572704
>AK finally releases a truly badass male character with zero sex appeal for women
>it's a mediocre defender
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>>543572046
That's what happen when you change writers constantly. First chapters we're kino and romance was fine
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>>543572704
while cool, I don't think I'd waste any premium currency on it. If it were a saber-like character under the armor tho, that's a different story.
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>>543572819
As much as you try to rewrite reality sister, there was a self insert and he was deleted
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>>543572819
What’s confusing is why bother with naming system if there wasn’t even self insert could’ve just been like limbus and have PvP without making people think there’s someone to self insert
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>>543572892
I accept your concession. Now go be a better man.
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>>543572704
>armored dudes, robots and skeletons
dudes will now roll the male banners
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>>543572704
>twin mini-gun knight
What the fuck. I'd roll for that.
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>>543572889
>deflection
There's that word again. We are bickering about shoving male characters in a majority female game. You used LADS as an example, a game that purely focuses on one gender characters.
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>>543572892
you say as you avoid continuing the conversation because you got mad? you're retarded
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>>543572847
I've seen lots of people on twitter trying to M5 Manato, guys and girls. I figured he would be mostly appealing to homos but apparently girls like him too.
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>>543572819
You are talking to a vmg rat, they will come up with mentally ill scenario in their head to satisfy they degeneracies, they crave ntr so much, their mind has been re-rooted to come up with the most insane reach.
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>>543573054
>muh accept your concession
Go back to the kitchen. You literally don't possess the required minimum IQ to engage in intellectual discussions.
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>>543572960
I liked that bd2 is a "generic jrpg"
The 4 main leads are basically 2 couples and there's no self insert so I don't get the complaints. Sounds like loud minority of weirdos to me
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>>543573001
Show me the player self-insert then.
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>>543573137
>Shoving
They were here from the start anon. If you wanted a female only game why are you here?

The LADS wasn't about anything except the single sentence "Males don't sell", that's it. You and everyone else extraploated it into "OH SO YOU MEAN PUT MEN AND WOMEN IN EVERYTHING"

It's literally this meme.
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Why are you even talking about other gacha?
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Banana pickers really are the dumbest.
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>>543573245
>No points only ad hominem
Boom. Done.
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>>543573065
>check sv news
>belial beelzebub leaders
It’s… over…
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>>543572956
They also banned all the fag art, and every single character looks like a light skinned k-pop model, no darkies or brownies.
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>>543573471
because we can't talk about this one
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>>543573461
Lmao using LaDS against me is hilarious, I play otome games. Do you want a male character that kidnaps you and tries to groom you into his wife? Or yandere brother that wants to make you his?
I highly doubt you want the male characters that LaDS sells.
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New thread?
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>>543573198
There's nothing else for me to say. I explained very clearly why the success of LADS is an illusion. If you choose to disregard the facts I brought up there's nothing to continue.
For one last time.
90% of the revenue of LADS comes from China. China is very removed from the rest of the world with a well-known gender imbalance that has caused the growth of an unusually large femcel population.
When you remove the abnormal Chinese revenue from LADS, it has the revenue of a middle of the self gacha game all the while having practically no competition.
So yes, males sell in China but not in the rest of the world which ultimately means that males do not, in fact, sell.
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>>543573651
>homos instead of skelly leader
truly hopeless
at least forest got the cat
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Not going to reroll
Will uninstall if I get furry bati
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>>543573712
>Do you want a male character that kidnaps you and tries to groom you into his wife?
If only more games were so based
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>>543573636
I already made several points that your 80 IQ estrogen-filled brain just refuses to accept but for one last time, here. >>543573748
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>all these other gachas
>no mention of limpipi
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>>543573748
>If you choose to disregard the facts
>facts
LMAO you didn't even provide a link to anything
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Men are so scary.
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>>543573852
>>543573748
>If something happens in china that means it isn't real
THIS is the best you can come up with? KEKYPOW!
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>>543573883
I'm so sorry anon... I only care for Binah tits, the shipping adventure of Limbtroon company is lost on me.
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>>543573043
>>543573232
You retards have no idea what you are talking about and it shows
https://youtu.be/RpDdUR8MA88
This is what was taken away from us
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>>543573984
Female only gacha players...
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I thought the mc is locked to male in this game why would any yumejoshi want to play it?
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>>543573984
it's why i kind of avoid games with overly-male fanbases. it's just gross to interact with this kinda shit all the time lol
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>>543573883
i mentioned limpipi thoughbeit
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>>543574296
>>543574296
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>>543573210
He's fine. Mostly ZZZ guys are, to be honest. I remember really liking Asaba's SQ.
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>>543571192
What did Lathel do to deserve this? Bro had so little dialogue, most girls rarely addressed him, and even gets later cucked



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