On Your Side Edition>News:Patch 8: https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138Patch 7: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-7-now-live_121Patch 6: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-6-now-live_108Patch 5: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-5-now-live_99>Wiki:https://bg3.wiki>Mods:https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/>FAQ:>Q: How often should I long rest?>A: Many companion and romance interactions occur when long resting. Some early lower priority camp scenes can also be missed if higher priority ones are queued. To advance companion quests or romances, make sure to long rest often.>Q: Can I recruit Minthara without going down the evil path?>A: If you knock her out in Act 1, yes. You do miss out on the sex scene, but otherwise the romance remains the same.>Q: Underdark or Mountain Pass?>A: Either, or both. It's recommended to clear both on higher difficulties for the experience and loot. Both connect to the same Act 2 map.>Q: Is The Dark Urge essentially "Tav+"?>A: Yes. You get additional content, BUT there are points where, if you've chosen to resist the Urge and/or don't complete quests the "right" way, you'll have to pass additional checks to avoid losing companions.>Q: Are there any consequences to consuming tadpoles?>A: No, for the most part. However if you've consumed any tadpoles, there will later be a DC 21 Wisdom check to reject the Astral-Touched Tadpole, which affects your appearance if consumed.>Q: Should I enable Karmic Dice?>A: Karmic Dice will avoid streaks of low rolls, both for you and the enemy. It is recommended to disable it if you're specializing.>Polls:>Romance: https://strawpoll.com/NMnQ5kJXYn6>Race: https://strawpoll.com/kjn18WPzeyQ>Class: https://strawpoll.com/eNg69DKKjnA>Companions: https://strawpoll.com/bVg8o8l3VnYOP pasta: https://rentry.org/bggpastaPrevious thread: >>543289305
REPOSTING RANT:I went to see how solo honor mode nerds beat myrkul and I see fucking invisible scratch to rescue AWhat the fuck. HOW DO PEOPLE COME UP WITH THIS SHIT. I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THEY GOT THESE IDEAS ORGANICALLY. THIS NEVER EVEN ENTERED MY MIND AS A POSSIBILITY
Crunch is morally neutral. Being a dick about how to implement crunch isn't.
>>543594382Honestly the first time I saw Scratch has the help action I realized that's extremely exploitable, but I never considered the game hard enough to justify using anything that extreme. If you're going solo in honor mode I guess that's when it comes down to it or saving dwarf meat, or leaving trails of broken potion bottles out of combat, or any of that other bullshit that's never really worth your time otherwise.
>>543594682>leaving trails of broken potion bottles out of combatI saw that shit tooThis sorc dumped shit on like four different spotsThen just flew all over the place. Acted like 20 turns in a row or some shit.Kind crazy
>>543594642When I hear about "crunch" I just hear office workers complaining about having to do shit everyone else does.
wait what dwarf meat
>>543593994Not really. Whom you love is not subject to reason. Whether it aligns with mainstream tastes is irrelevant.
>>543594985The roasted dwarf the goblins have in their camp actually heals you a bit. Might be a Durge only thing.
if i chimp out and attack everyone can i still progress the story
>>543595286yes the game will even spawn in replacements
Missionary with Astarion
>>543595286Yes, but depending on who you chimp on you might miss a lot. I'm pretty sure you can kill every NPC you run into
Didn't gale die when attempting to become a god before?Why did they change it
>>543595417>you might miss a lotyeah i'll get to that in my next playthrough haha (never)
>>543595286>With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created.
Defend this Chuddy.
>>543596564Looks like a dude
Something I don't get. The brain offers to serve you if you let it live. But once you kill the emperor/Orpheus, there's no way to control the brain. What stops it from betraying you
>>543595086>>543594682>Might be a Durge only thing.Dwarf meat is exclusive to the Durge but there are alternatives for everybody. Remember to the Gruel the Tiefling kitchen lady next to Ethel serves you? It heals 3d4 HP w/o costing any Action in combat! I discovered that during my first run when I haven't rested yet and simply tried to eat the food to see what happens. Every new character can stand in line and with a sob story they can get 2 rations from her. With 6 companions and 1 Tav that's theoretically 14 free-to-use 3d4 "Healing Potions" you just have to ask for. Even more since respecced characters count as "new". In practice I remember how I was "only" able to get one with certain companions, but that might've been just me using the [SPECIAL] dialogues instead of blatantly exploiting the system. The other food item I collected separately was Spoiled Treacle Tart which only gives 1d4 healing and has some temporary downsides with Saving Throws. I never really needed them but it takes little effort to keep the hoarding going, so...
>>543601082I realized that most druids give away free good berries. The heal is weak, but if you combine it with Volo’s ring, you basically have a reliable source of bless in the early game
I love goodberries
Does arcane synergy work with thrown weapon attacks? I feel like they generally don't gain a lot of bonuses, but I'm a ways from being able to quickly test it.
>>543605104Give away how? Do they automatically hand it out if you talk to them below X HP? Or is there a dialogue option to ask? I remember seeing in their inventory but never traded for them.
gay
shadowbaby
>>543595437I think it only happens if he challenges Mystra for the god of magic domain not the god of ambition one.
I still think a god of ambition should have made his own means to ascend. He's more like the god of dumpster diving.
Mizora feet
>>543612907Nope, based on my quick test. The test subject was Wyll in his underwear with 18 DEX and CHA (so +4 modifier in both) using a simple Dagger. AS Diadem (for AS), Reverbation Amulet (so our Eldritch Blast gives a condition and actives AS), Risky Ring (Advantage on Attack Rolls = less tedium during testing). The DMG reroll comes from the Savage Attacker Feat and I did not use Bind on the weapon. None of this influences our base question, they're just here to understand the log better. Left is when the Dagger was Thrown with active AS on him, right is a Main Hand Attack from the very same quick save. As you can see the extra DMG was only added with a Melee Attack.
so Warlock is basically a half-caster really
>>543624025Thanks for that. After some digging it looks like rather than "weapon attacks" thrown weapons are counted as unarmed in certain ways. I'm kind of tempted to test the extent of that, but luckily with monk gear you pretty much get it all organically and there's no real investment needed, so I'll just cross that bridge when I get to it.>>543624213You don't really miss out on doing caster shit as a warlock. I find having limited short rest spell slots that only cast at your highest level encourages me to use more magic when playing, if anything. When it comes to wizards/clerics/druids I find I always hoard the highest level spell slots thinking I'll need them later, but never do.
>>543620745He did, the main components of his ascension were the orb and the crown, he got the orb himself earlier (although for a different purpose) and the crown with the party, but no one says it's not ambitious to have allies.
>>543625003You're welcome. Out of sheer luck I'm running a Throwing build as well, so let me show you something interesting.>thrown weapons are counted as unarmed in certain waysThis is generally true but not always. You know the Flawed Helldusk Gloves, right? +1d4 Fire for weapon attacks, +1d4 Necrotic and the potential for Bleeding for unarmed ones. Check the attached log! It shows both Fire and Bleeding applied but no Necrotic!You can chalk up this to the Gloves' peculiarity but for example Sparkle Hands (2 Lightning Charges per a hit with an unarmed attack) also works with Thrown weapons. Well, at least with the Returning Pike but everybody uses that anyways.What 100% works with a Throw build is the Gloves of Uninhibited Kushigo (+1d4 DMG but specifically for Throw attacks), Ring of Flinging (same just a ring), Caustic Band (+2 Acid for weapon attacks). That is your foundation as they're available relatively early and universally useful. Then you can find extra pieces like the gloves I mentioned above that shouldn't work based on description but in practice they do. The ring that gives +1d4 DMG against Obscured and Shadow creatures also belongs here despite only mentioning "weapon and unarmed attacks". So the repertoire is bigger than it seems for the first glimpse.
okay you guys weren't kidding about the sex pest memes. I've hardly talked to him at all until now.
>>543630350Don't you want the bear dick?
>>543630350halsin sucks all he talks about is sex & nature
>>543635672Druids are basically cave men that's all they care about
>>543635672That'd be great if it was Kagha talking
>>543636224jaheira is a druid but acts like a real person and not a tropey cartoon character
>>543636643Halsin is much older than Jaheira and has spend enough time in nature making love to bears to know that is indeed what life is all about.
>>543636643In BG1 and 2 she was a fighter/druid she's an oddball amongst druids that lives in a city.
john is just bad at writing dialogues period
Killing Sebastian
>>543595286Yes except the Emperor
the latest swen tweet just dropped
>>543595286Sacrificing Gale to BOOOAL!
>>543637727Swen is such a good boss no cap
>>543636789Fuck, this sounded incorrect first but then I remembered that Jaheira is a Half-Elf, not a pure one like Halsin. So while he has more years behind his back than her already, she's closer to the end of her lifespan. Weird shit. >>543630350I dislike how this game seem to think attraction goes hand-in-hand with high Approval. I know the situation is more complex with Romance tagged dialogues and whatnot but when it comes to the well-known sex pests this is indeed how the situation feels.
>>543637727The D&D license is half the reason BG3 did so well I doubt whatever new IP they're making will be as big.
>>543638256it's not lol most dnd games flop or have a midling success like solasta, larian's next games will be even bigger success because they have the bg3 momentum & will release them on most consoles at once
>>543638256Yes, Divinity setting is shit and I couldn't finish a game. I won't play their gay space game.
Astarion x Jaheira
I'm fine with glazing bg3 but pretending that wyll is only disliked because the rest of the origins are just that good is retarded, he's a terrible character and his story is even worse get over it
>>543638605the rest of the planet will
>>543638472I hope it flops so they make BG4 to save their studio
>>543638814You just haven't taken the Wyllpill yet
>>543639138all they have to do is slap>by the creators of bg3and they're guarenteed 10 million copies, it will never flop
>>543639135Enjoying the chocolate John feeds me! Bird people with donkey dicks are awesome!
>>543639138Same
cringe
>>543639723>dragonborns have custom lizard cocks but donkey dicked birdfolks is where I draw the line
>>543640253>describe the bird people you created, john>they have donkey dicks>what about their culture>polygamy is encouraged. they enjoy sex>and their religion>their god has huge dick
>>543639983based
>I'm fine with glazingDo not forget yourself, Aradin.
>>543641417
>>543640253Dragonborn females should have dragon boobs
Slavery is part of Duergar culture the deep gnomes are enriched by it please understand
Rape is part of Astarion culture please understand
sex with Zethinosex with Alfirasex with Quilsex with Kaghasex with Bex
>>543645739based
>>543645739Literally who
Who are wizards paying when they learn a spell from a scroll? It makes no sense they already own the scroll.
Waifus, HusbandosLove & Harmonyand Shar's giant feetsies
>>543645739where is Cirian
>>543639625If it works for Obsidian it can work for them
>>543645739>ZethinoDyke
real?
I'm an angel of vengeance.
Mizora you arsehole!
>>543638185Halsin is like, 350 something years old while Jaheira is 150 more or lessthe thing is, Jaheira could have done the Archdruid's Ritual and get infinite lifespan, but chose not towhile Halsin is just a high elf and I don't think he has ever done anything druid-related post act 2only sperging out in dialogues when walking in a town because>oh no, muh tress
>>543648096Halsin is actually a wood elf but he doesn't have a wierd skin color
>All parental figures and surrogates in this game are awful>like a telling tale of the writers' relationships with their parents...weird.
>We strive to do our utmost - to prove ourselves worthy. Tell me - of what is Halsin most proud?> Protecting his grove from those who threatened it.>A source of pride, true. I can think of greater feats, but that one is cherished all the same.He failed though
>>543646117Originally I though that spell learning option was a quick buy interface as an alternative for hunting down scrolls at vendors, so I was fine with paying to be able to learn them. Turned out it's a list composed of spells you have scrolls of, which obviously takes that element away from the equation. I'm sure there's some so-called explanation - like when Gale explained how creating an ever-burning torch costs as much diamond dust as "half of a queen's crown" or something, but didn't address how a level 5 wizard who rather died of thirst cowering in her safe place than facing a couple of mastiffs was able to afford to light like 7-8 torches - but it will hardly be satisfying.>>543645739Where's Lakrissa?
>>543646117>The cost represents material components you expend as you experiment with the spell to master it, as well as the fine inks you need to record it.
coercing astarion into threesome
Just thought of a cringy inspiration for my next Tav/Durge...
>>543648406you're right! my bad
Is vengeance paladin the most narratively fitting durge class?
>>543646117gnomes
>>543649327who's the third?
Pregnant Wyll
swen said that his team is overly critical of bg3 & dos2's flaws
>>543649812are they gonna fix it
>>543649660Ηalsin
>>543649992no but they'll make their next games better>dos1 is too cartoony, the companions are one note and the story sucksthey made dos2 more story focused and gave the companion way more dialogues & story relevance>dos2's story is rushed, the items are so boring they feel straight out of an mmo and there aren't a lot of interactions with the companionsbg3's story is way way better and the companions react to most of choices you make, bg3 has arguably the greatest itemization of any wrpg>bg3's story is rushed in the third act and some of the companions feel way more polished than othersso on and so forth until larian releases the ultimate wrpg that swen has been dreaming about for decades
>>543649413All paladins are lawful good except oathbreakers
>>543650729Even the oath of conquest paladin serving Vlaakith?
As much as I don't go down the ascended astarion, god gale, and shardowheart paths I do appreciate their existence. Vastly different outcomes and it does make me feel just the slightest bit bad when I normally shut down astarion and gale on moral/thematic reasons, feels like I'm not letting them live their full potential and all that. That said their more grand character arcs compared to the laezel, karlach and wyll are probably why I don't think karlach and wyll left much impact on me. Understandable why they wouldn't have as much growth or reason to grow, but it still felt kind of flat despite them being the better fits in the party for my moral ass
>>543651170You're upholding the laws of Vlaakith in that case
>>543646117>>543649542>>543646117In the tabletop version, learning spells as a wizard is fairly easy: you just need to find a scroll or a book with a new spell, copy it into your spellbook, and that’s it. In the tabletop game, copying and studying a spell usually requires 50 gp worth of materials such as paper, ink, quills, etc., to transcribe the spell; these are items the player must go and purchase in shops.Furthermore, when it comes to actually casting a spell, spells in D&D have various components required to cast them. Some need specific items or artifacts that a wizard keeps on hand. Wizard players always carry a component pouch, which holds all the necessary materials. Usually, in the tabletop version, the wizard buys the materials for a one-time fee, or according to whatever the DM decides.>but didn't address how a level 5 wizard who rather died of thirst cowering in her safe place than facing a couple of mastiffs was able to afford to light like 7-8 torchesTrue Soul Korliss was sent by Ketheric to find Last Light, I'm pretty sure the General equipped their troops with all the equipment they needed, arcane components included.
>>543651470Mizora is upholding the laws of Zariel and Asmodeus, can she be a paladin too?
>>543620745Ambition is the drive to achieve lofty goals, not necessarily do it all by yourself.He's the God of Ambition, not self reliance.
God of scam courses
>>543651609Minthara used to be a paladin of Lolth so devils could have paladins too.
Do people actually dislike Halsin that much? Why?He's just a big chill bear dude who hangs out with you, can off-heal and off-tank, and will pound you if you want. But he's also cool not doing that. It's not like Wyll where you shatter his whole reality by not wanting to cheat on your existing partner with him out of nowhere.I love hanging out with him; he and Jaheira feel a lot more mature than the rest of the party. Sometimes when I don't want to feel like I'm babysitting my younger friends' feelings I bring them along and we wander the streets of the Gate looking for relaxing trouble.Legitimately curious: what's not to like about him?
drow mommy
>>543653108he's boring, ugly, we already have a druid companion and we wasted a companion slot on him when rolan, barcus or alfira were right there, he should have been a camp follower
Astarion cured lesbianism
>>543651357Do you also feel bad about not "living up to your full potential" as the Dark Urge? You walk as a mortal, taking no advantage from your heritage, when you could be so much more. You could become Murder.
>>543653108>He's just a big chill bear dude who hangs out with you, can off-heal and off-tank, and will pound you if you want.Imagine actually typing this
>>543653885
dhampir/werewolf abomination
>>543649413Sure. You can make your own backstory. Whom is he swearing vengeance upon? Is he a resist durge who is swearing vengeance upon Bhaal for his lot in life and making him a monster? Perhaps upon Orin for making scrambled eggs with his brain?Oath of Crown pally who is just a simp for daddy bhaal?I think you can make a narratively appropriate Durge out of fighter, sorc, wizard, rogue, paladin, barb, and cleric of Bhaal.Warlock is a bit trickier since most patrons would not want to step in on Bhaal's property, and Bhaal would say why are you looking for power elsewhere besides me. But you could always be creative and give a reason.Bard is also trickier since much of the bard content in this game is reddit humor, but you can always spin that as the psychopath who jokes one minute and murders someone the next. Also, ballads of mass murder and death is a staple of skalds and the like.Druid is a bit trickier too since they're supposed to be in tune with the natural order of life which includes life and death, which conflicts a bit with bhaal's message of "kill everything, nothing alive".
>>543654695You can't select Bhaal as your Cleric deity. And if you could (by installing a mod), that would clash with the narrative of you being an amnesiac. Everything else checks out. Cleric and Druid are the only two classes that don't make much sense for the Dark Urge.
>>543653885Well thats a bit different. For murder and being a squidman that is "my" choice, with the others I feel like I'm cockblocking them.Also I've seen my co-op buddies do it enough times to know it doesn't seem as fulfilling than freedom. Also saw them fumble the duel and off post-finale a few times
>>543655429I'm not just talking about at character creation, I'm talking about narrative. Durge being a cleric of bhaal makes sense narratively, if he were to choose the route of being loyal to bhaal, and he wasn't already a different class he doesn't want to change away from. Death domain is Bhaal's cleric domain, so after that was added you even get to play it out mechanically without mods, even if your character sheet doesn't have the word "Bhaal" on it. I forgot to mention monk. Monk loyalist bhaal is pretty funny, but I think monk resist durge is actually kind of neat.
>actually trying to roleplay in a video game
>>543656021Yeah that's me. Problem?
Devotion Paladin Astarion <3
>>543653108>Do people actually dislike Halsin that much? Why?combined with the fact that shadowheart is the most popular romance? you know EXACTLY why he is disliked
post your 3-classes multis
>not changing Shart's domain to (moon)light or Life after she leaves Shar for Selune>not giving Astarion a level in necromancer wizard after he reads the necronomicon>not reclassing Wyll to Ranger after he breaks his pact (the game has a line about Mizora still empowering him after but you can still do it)>not giving gale a rank in shadow sorc after he absorbs the shadow weave>not giving Lazy a rank in monk after she begins learning the ways of Orpheus's honor guard>not multiclassing Jaheira into fighter+druid since that's what she was the last time you played a game with her in it
Astarion x Minthara
>>543657163>what she was the last time you played a game with her in itI've never played bg1 & 2...
>>543657163>fighter+druidthat's ranger
>>543657163Can you think of a justification to change Shadowheart's domain earlier? I'm not spending an act and a half with Trickery.
>>543657596Shar canonically has death domain and it's way better than trickery.
>>543657596she was the healer on the sharran strike team to steal the artifact
Not killing Cazador and Becoming Absolute as Astarion! Making Cazzy Sun King's slave!
>>543657596yeah, Shar's other domain is Death. Make her a Death domain cleric of Shar until you swap later in act 3 to light/life.
>>543656856
You're angry I prefer Astarion to real men, but you never had a chance, Astarion or not.
>>543656604no problem, added you to the list
Moids never had a chance
>>543594573Wednesdayfrog posting time!!!
>>543594382I send invisible minty to save gaylin, invisible bae'zel to drop a big backpack of bombs before quickly running away from ketheric+eat his pathetic P1 reaction, and an invisible character of any type with extra attack fly up to the left high platform -> shoot the bag with a fire arrow -> throw a small stack of around seven with the extra action to one-turn that faggot. I see people struggle with that fight, and it's like "not me, bitch"
>>543657163Life or Knowledge, not Light. Light isn't one of Selune's domains. If only we had Twilight in BG3
>>543661548Twilight is more about stuff like dispel and moonlight rather than light being all about fire stuff (because light is more of a "sun domain" concept"), but I really don't think it's hard to justify it with the absence of the other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88xc9IpAcFY
>>543662209But why choose Light, which doesn't fit, when there are two canon domains for Selune in the game already?
femboy gale mod
>>543662541I don't think knowledge suits her, to put it as nice as possible. Healing kind of does because it suits any cleric, but it's not like she's really someone who focuses about the finer details of healing.
>why choose Light domain for an ex-cleric of the dark God I wonder
>>543663330Trickery and Knowledge do have some overlap though. Both have a bit of focus on control spells. Knowledge domain also gets speak with animals which is a fitting add on. It definitely suits her better than shooting fireballs as a Selune cleric
>>543662541(moon)light.You can't have (light) without a little shadow.Whoa....deep.Life doesn't really suit her, and neither does knowledge. My favorite is Death domain when she's Sharran, and then when she steps into Selune's light, she becomes Light as symbolism. I feel like John would approve, given his hitting the palyer over the head with light analogies.She doesn't immediately start worshiping Selune, but she does become aware of what is happening, one of her lines is "I'd hate to admit where my powers come from now", meaning she's aware it's Selune but she doesn't want to jump right to worshiping another god so quickly, so they just sort of have an understanding for the moment. Which is not how most clerics work, but a god can do whatever they want, so Selune gave her powers as a reward for saving her daughter and a sort of "I will welcome you back into my flock if you want, and these powers are here if you do want to follow me, but if you don't that's fine too, I'll probably revoke them at some point in the future with no hard feelings if not" sort of thing. Selune is actually pretty chill, relative to most gods. Having an incredibly broad portfolio combined with being relatively chill has made her one of the most popular gods in the setting.
>>543664549>(moon)light.>You can't have (light) without a little shadow.>Whoa....deep.pfffft
>>543664535>speak with animalsHmmmmm goodberry
>>543664503you niggas are metagaming with light but dont wanna admit it. life is mid and knowledge is ass
>>543665086>>543663516botoxed her
Knowledge cleric Gale
>>543665528Tempest cleric Gale. One last Gale to end them all.
>>543665638Tempest Cleric of Gale. His only domain
Spawn Astarion x SharShart! He's her slave and she makes him watch in a cuck chair
>>543665178It’s undeniably the most thematically appropriate. No idea why this is making you mad. You aren’t “metagaming” just because you aren’t playing with 300+ handicaps for “roleplay.”
>>543663516You LOVE pigslop.
Wyll x the Emperor
>>543667241>abomination x abominationfitting
we have too many dudebros in the party and not enough cute femboys, a femboy sorcerer would have saved bg3
>>543667613Why is Wyll a abomination ?
>>543666657>a domain that isn't in selune or shar's portfolio>the most thematically appropriateNo
>>543666657not him but no kek. scorching the earth with fire makes NO sense if selune is your deity
>>543668109>>543668251>Uhm, actually in the tabletop-Nobody cares. Also, are you autistic by any chance? Moonlight is reflected sunlight. Why does a “Moon cleric” casting a fire spell upset you, exactly?
>>543668657>waah nobody cares>waah you're autistici accept your concession moron
>>543661548>Light isn't one of Selune's domains.I bet this surprised many people when they first saw it. To be frank I wasn't an exception either. >>543664503Death vs Life and Trickery vs Knowledge. The latter represents two different approaches rather than being the direct opposite of each other but it works. The first deity who would pop into my head when it comes to Light domain is Lathander. If we go with the Selune represents the Moon and Shar the Darkness analogy he would be the Sun. To make it more interesting his other domain is Life, but he embraces a different aspect of it than Selune. In short the way domains assigned to deities in-game don't necessarily follow the most obvious or rational routes, but since the differences are often (for lack of a better term) philosophical some leeway definitely exists with these choices. Picking her Light as a domain is a good example.
You don't HAVE to cast Fireballs just because you're a Light domain Cleric.
>>543669108True. You obviously care about this a lot. Also you’re almost definitely on the spectrum no offense
I switched Shart to tempest domain. Got a problem with that?
>>543669271you can respec however you want, but you're simply lying by saying light is good for selune. you seem upset that i pointed this out. now you're gonna respond to me with a million ad hominems since i triggered you
Gale was up to his magic tricks again.
Only fags multiclass.
>>543668657>Uhm, moonlight is reflected-it's simply not in their domain list, you can still respec into it, it just won't be thematic is all
>>543668657>>543669271Calling someone autistic because they disagreed with you is childish. You're wrong btw
Anyone ever try those mods that add in more fights and enemies in the world? I want more fights but idk if they're worth trying
>>543669185Selune is the “light” to Shar’s “darkness.” Some lore technicality pales in comparison to the obvious, potent symbolism. Light domain is ultra popular for that reason. Knowledge domain is forgotten because it sounds boring as hell, is boring as hell, and is also a shit domain mechanically
>>543670207Selune and Shar complete the night sky. Selune works well with Twilight domain for that reason. Cool and gentle for the Moon. Light domain is for the Sun. It's all about fire and radiance.
>>543670207>Shar's "darkness">no darkness domainwtf??? where's my symbolism
>>543670813I can't believe Dame Aylin gave me "Selune's Spear of Night". What the fuck man? This isn't thematically appropriate. Reddit told me Selune is all about light like a sweet summer's day.
>>543670198yeah, the additional encounters mod that is on the front page of modio is really good. A lot of the fights are placed in areas that felt oddly empty, and most of them have a vanilla+ feel and rarely break your immersion.Also check out tactician enhanced, it has several nice additions to existing encounters, like expanded spell lists for enemies, new items in their inventories like nets and arrows, and best of all it gives realistic subclasses to lots of enemies just like the player has which are missing from some enemies in vanilla.
>>543671594Gotcha, any other mods you'd recommend? Haven't played since release but getting the urge to play again
Really Shadowheart
>>543670708>>543670813What is not clear about that? The cleric of “darkness” comes to embrace the “light.” Most players choose the “light domain” after turning from the “darkness.”
>>54367081340 IQ post
>>543672002>embrace the "light">start throwing out walls of fire, columns of fire, fireballs, and rays of firenot one of Selune's domains, sorry! you can still do it, it just isn't thematic is all!
>>543669897>thematicThis is a silly misuse of the term. What would actually be thematic is Shadowheart wielding the light of Selûne to pierce the darkness - Radiance of the Dawn deals radiant damage, not fire damage. We have a specific case where it makes perfect sense, yet you're trying to rule-lawyer this shit with a "technically, Light isn't a domain of Selûne's portfolio..." like a nerd, ignoring that D&D allows that kind of flexibility. It's not like Selûne is personally curating the spells a Cleric of hers can or can't use according to the damage type or "theme." Narrative takes precedence over mechanics.
>>543672316and life cleric has radiant divine strike, but is also actually one of Selune's domains
>>543672002I doubt most people even bother to respec. Some may pick Light if they didn't understand the domain. Your first channel divinity spell is called RADIANCE OF THE DAWN for crying out loud and reference the Sun's power. It just doesn't fit Selune at all.
>>543672312You really need to learn what “thematic” means before attempting to comment on theme.
>>543672316>...of the DawnFitting for the Moonmaiden lol
>>543672316>Radiance of the Dawn deals radiant damage, not fire damage>Radiance of the Dawn: "The sun's divine power dispels any magical darkness"ummm anon
Would you?
>>543672538you don't get it it's moonfire bro
Moonlight is reflected sunlight. It makes perfect sense. I hate autistics so much it’s actually unreal.
can you explain this?
>spec into Light for my thematically-appropriate shift to Selûne>get the spell Daylight
>>543672935>use real world logic in a debate on fantasy magic in a videogame>in the videogame moonlight and sunlight are clearly distinctyou sure you aren't the autistic one?
Shadowcute though
I don't really care about the lore or whatever the fuck I turn shart into a light cleric for the broken AoE cleric action and wall of fire
>>543672461Moonbeam does radiant damage and is one of Selune's twilight domain's domain spells. Mysterious...
>>543673216>in a debateThere isn’t one. The rules are flexible inlore and ingame. Arguing the “light domain” is not thematic for an ex-cleric of Shar, the Lady of Darkness, is hilariously autistic.
>>543673437>Gods of primordial flame bathe you in resplendent lightvery descriptive of Selune
>>543673191In the name of Selune, I cast Warding Flare, Wall of Fire, Radiance of the Dawn, Daylight, Flame strike, and Fireball. What? That doesn't fit? YOU'RE AUTISTIC SHUT UP FUCK YOU
>>543673532Ok, obviously you’re just shitposting.
will never understand sisters who go waahh astarion shouldn't have abs like BITCH he should have more abs (it's hot)
Nature domain is thematic for Selûneheart because she learned her father was a werewolf and she's reverting to her "natural" state outside of the Sharran brainwashing
>>543673437god you're such a dumbass lmao. a total autist too. just accept the L little bro
>>543673682meant for>>543673437
>>543673329>>543665178
>>543672993I knew they changed it around . Give me back my thrusts.
>>543673702I think his abs are enough, there's no need for more...
>>543671827That's pretty much it for actual recommendations. The rest is personal taste.I like d20 initiative, it makes it more like tabletop and lets some stats and feats feel more balanced.AMP+REL is an interesting mod that randomizes all loot and adds 450 items. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you're looking to drastically change the way itemization works, but I do respect the mod for being pretty detailed and extensive. It adds a lot of items, most of them are reasonably balanced, and the mod has a fun loot system where you can recycle items you don't want into random items but the machine to do that requires a battery that you get from doing side quests and main story quests, which gates your items behind story progression. It's reasonably well done and neat for a non-serious playthrough after you've played the game for real a few times.Other than those, there are a ton of cosmetic mods. I use one that gives you a few dyes that are not in the base game, and one that just adds all the clothing that are in the game but not player accessible. There are lots of face and hairstyle mods as well.Mystra's spells adds a ton of spells from the rulebook's wizard and cleric ewtc spell lists that were not added to the vanilla game, but honestly most of them were not added for a reason, like they have little purpose in a videogame or they're stronger than larian's intended power spikes or whatever reason. I use it and it's generally well made technically but like the last one I'd save this one for after you've done it vanilla at least once.There is a level 20 mod, but the game isn't balanced around you being level 20. So then you have to start editing Tactician Enhanced's options to balance the game for level 20, which you can do but when I was finicking with it I suddenly realized why don't I just not be level 20.Tactician Enhanced has a cool feature where you can add actions and max hp to enemies as well, not just items and spells and subclasses.
>>543673780>>543673910Thanks for giving up. What an awful topic. Nice job shooting yourself in the foot with that ‘primordial gods’ shitpost btw. Made me chuckle.
>>543672993Disable blur in settings
>>543674629you can respec to light if you want, it's okay, it just isn't one of Selune's domains is all and isn't representative of what she does
>>543673741>No goodberryLame
>>543674874you're right but he's so assmad all of his replies will be shitposts now lol
>>543673741Nature domain is appropriate for her years from the ending when she realizes the fight between the two goddess did everything it could to ruin her life and she picks a new god that compliments her interest in animals. But I don't see her actually having that revelation.
If you respec Shadowheart to cast fireball, why not just make her an evocation wizard?
>>543675216I wonder something like this but for nature-related characters being made as nature clerics instead of druids
>the light domain's description is a shitpostInteresting...
>>543674574what about fatter tits and bigger arms
>Shadowheart fans argue about what's thematic or not while Astarionsisters lust over Astarionperfectly represents this general as a whole desu
>goodberry is thematic
>>543675870>shadowheart fans stirring up shit everywhere they go
>>543675131I respecced her to druid when I played as her because I ate hag's wisdom hair. I wanted to get rid of bitch goddesses but it was the only wisdom class besides cleric.
>>543675927she needs a strong guiding hand to pull her away from the gods that messed with her life and into nature's embrace
>>543675870You’re terrible at shitposting. Do you really think people don’t notice the multireplies? Do you really think you can convince people “””””””Astarionsisters”””””” exist, for example? This shit is so embarrassing. >>543675216Naturally low INT.
>>543675664what about fatter cock and bigger dick
speaking of goodberry what's his problem
So why isn't the twilight domain in the game anyway? You'd think they'd have thought about it with Selune/Shar bullshit so prevalent. Everything other than the tiny hut spell is pretty practical
>>543676342>Undead warlock represented by exactly one enemy in service of Vlaakith>can't play itsmall indie devs
>>543676151ngl fat cock yes, length only needs to be 5.5-6in because any more than that I can't fit and I like it when the man bottoms out
>>543673439cute toad
totally normal thing to do btw
>>543677276lol
Why is the toadcel unleashing his cuck folder
>>543677672
>>543677960>Apologies, my heartIs that what he calls her?
why is a sharter unleashing his halsin folder
>>543678215That's his romance word.
>>543677405don't interrupt his goon session
>>543676160his peak as a voice actor was halsin and he's trying really hard to stay relevant he's probably jealous of neil
>>543677405My guess is he saw the Shadowheart screenshots
>>543675664this is better, his arms looked a bit off compared to his buildmy only issue is that the mod also makes his thighs bigger, and I'm not a fan of men with big thighs so, between the two options, I’d choose noodle arms or just enjoy pictures of him that sisters make <3
>>543678981wow she's just like me
assigning jobs to bg3 charactersAstarion- (excluding magistrate) actor or wagie at deadend job if not unemployedGale- professor, history or physics/chemistry/math idkKarlach- WNBA starWyll- local government politicianLae'zel- mail carrierShadowheart- veterinarianHalsin- unemployed, lives off the gridMinthara- correctional officer at a women's prison (no longer allowed to work in the men's prisons)
>>543680097mail carrier?
>>543680097Cringe
laelae would run the perfect daycare, with minimal casualty rates
>laelae
>>543680776that's what ack calls lae'zel
>>543677405i don't think its toadcel. its the other schizo who spams gay porn
you guys are soooooooo goofy omgim dying ooflfmmfmmmggggg
>>543680778hot
>>543680507lol
>>543681229very likely a sharter falseflagging
>>543680778He licks his axewound
>>543680097gale would be one of those smug chefs, wyll would be a soundcloud rapper
Where did Lae'zel get the ideas for exclusivity and bonds between lovers from if she was raised without that in her society?
>>543681314What's so funny
There's never really any telling whether it's a genuine retard, falseflag, or doublebluff falsefag. I just wish something was actually done about it.
>>543681494i don't think its a shartie either. probably that schizo who hates the game altogether but is in this general all the time
>>543681758they were going for a poly approach at first but people complained about it before the early access so much even kevin got tired of being called a cuck so he rewrote her, a few years later laezel's writer came out as poly so there's that too I guess IDK belgium is weird
>>543681836It's on topic.
>>543682230"low quality" and "trolling" aren't just about how on topic they are
>raving about tasting you and musk>her 180 on poly>defects to orpheus the moment you leave another creche (in ruins)I like Lae'zel but she has weaknesses
>>543677960>>543678728>>543678962ugh
Imagine the outrage if Halsin had turned into a horse.
>>543683734Nay, I shall not
>>543683734Norse myths good
>>543683734poor astarion
>browsing through mods>see theres actual sex modsDoes that mean there's a mod that'll let me rape?
Selune doesn't cover the light domain you clown it's no more associated with her than a tempest cleric.
Lorewise, how strong is a lvl 12 character
>>543690919Drizzt is like a 16th level (Maybe higher by now. I don't keep up with it). Elminster is like 20th with a bunch of epic boons. I don't know of a good point of reference, but it's very up there.
>>543690919Levels 1-4 - Local HeroesLevels 5-10 - Heroes of the RealmLevels 11-16 - Masters of the RealmLevels 17-20 - Masters of the World
Why is mystra a slut with tons of chosen
rip cute frog :(
>game gives durge the option to kill gale in the portal>game doesn't give durge the option to kill shart while she lay on the ground defenselessWhy the double standard
>>543698060Shadowcute
>lae'zel disapproves of keeping scratch from the couriers and telling mar'hyah to fuck offhow do toadcels defend this ugly bitch
why isn't Alfira a romance option bros...
what's durge's canon class
durge isn't even canon so it doesn't matter
>>543701245All the bhaal followers are assassins and Sarevok is a fighter
so who's stronger between Chosen of shar Shart, Chosen of bhaal durge and Ascendant astarion Not counting god gale as he's obviously the strongest
>>543706428If Astarion bites you he can control you like a puppet and make you his slave for eternity.
>>543706428I feel like Shar Shadowheart should have the highest theoretical potential given what other Shar's chosen were capable of. One nearly destroyed the entire planet with Shar's power. But its all theoretical. In game she's definitely not that strong
>>543706770When I took control of the brain I made him kneel thougheverbeit
>>543707009A romance with the ascended version puts you under his control forever you're his property from that point.
>>543707874https://youtu.be/nE4OrEqWmaoACK!!!
>>543672631>>543672758You've been missing the point, even though I made sure to put it at the end. Narrative takes precedence over mechanics. When we talk about the Light or Life domains, or when I mention "Radiance of the Dawn," these are mechanics. Shadowheart doesn't have her character sheet in front of her, nor is she choosing to specifically cast "Radiance of the Dawn." Narratively, she is merely channeling the divine power of her deity (Selûne, in this case) to dispel the darkness. You could call it Lunar Flare or whatever you want, since she's not actually calling her attacks like she's in an anime. Thematically, Light is one of the most fitting domains in the absence of Twilight - perhaps even more so, given that she's not a true Selûnite like Isobel.
>>543699159she's lawful good. the dog lawfully belongs to its owner which is notyou
>>543690578Based retard
>>543699159How will your attachment to this mutt prove helpful in the fights to come?
>>543699159They are ugly chuds like her
Do you see any fire coming on the moon? Light clerics are Lathander's
why can't elminster or vlaakith just wish away the elder brain
>>543698060you are supposed to save each other
Lathander? I piss on his shitty temple!
>>543714404>>543714404Dumb bitch read twilight one too many times
The gods are ruttin pigs whee whee
>>543714743How can she be so smug?
>>543715304Tell me more
>No one talks about the prettiest drow in the gameGood, more for me.
>>543714743I actually can't. Forgive my hubris, frogwife.
>>543717394she could leech my limes if you know what i'm saying
>>543717394We talk about Minthara all the time.
>>543717394>the prettiest drow in the gameearly access minthara?
>>543717554Lewd!
>>543712185You don't get it the fireball is lunar in origin
>>543717394Who the fuck is that
>>543717864Think anon, think!
>>543712185Since we agree that she doesn't have the character sheet in front of her, where does she get all of these fire powers, narratively speaking?
>>543717864Lady at the society for fart sniffing that's practicing a speech or something.
>>543717394>minthara but e girl
>>543719324Sold
>>543718165She doesn't "get" fire powers like some kind of anime character. A cleric is not a sorcerer. They're merely the conduit for the divine power of their deity, gracefully bestowed upon them in time of need. And you don't HAVE to use these fire spells. Giving a lunar theme to Radiance of the Dawn, Warding Flare, or Flame Strike is trivial, and they're half the reason to pick the subclass in the first place.
>>543719473>The flame strike is lunar in origin>>543665178
jk simmons really did the bare minimum
>>543719628It could easily be. It's already half-radiant damage, after all.
>>543719812And the other half?
>>543719786I'm not really sure what I wanted out of him. He's supposed to be the serious and tired one, but every other villain is great for how ridiculous they are
Have you done a playthrough beyond your initial one?What motivates you to keep going during the samey parts that dont change / unaffected by your decisions?
>>543719994It exists to better burn away the darkness, child.
>>543720269>>543719786waitdont tell me he voiced katheric? knew he sounded familiar
>>543720606You haven't actually mentioned why Selune would be granting this, though, or where it's coming from that'd have it be related to Selune in any way. If the subclass weren't specifically called "light", there'd be no argument.
>>543716036because she knows she is best girl>>543717540my first run had me sending lae'zel to camp because she was the last to be freed and holy crap what a mistake that was. never again
>Light is a fitting domain for Selûnet. Lathander during the dawn cataclysm
>>543720376Just made it to Act 3 in my 5th playthrough. The combat and imsim gameplay are my favorite things about the game, and each race/class has so far offered an appreciably different experience. Already thinking about my 6th run.
>>543720748He is. He can be a good VA, I just don't think he cared.
>>543720376>Have you done a playthrough beyond your initial one?of course>What motivates you to keep going during the samey parts that dont change / unaffected by your decisions?be specific which parts do you mean
>>543720768>why Selune would be granting thisIt's obvious to anyone who has played the game. Selûne is taking in a distraught Shadowheart, who has been forsaken by Shar, and allowing her continue being the cleric she is instead of some powerless child. And understanding that Shadowheart is no true Selûnite like Isobel, she is more lenient and willing to let her wield powers that can effectively serve her cause.>If the subclass weren't specifically called "light", there'd be no argument.If the abilities weren't named Radiance of the Dawn or "Flame" Strike, there'd be no argument. So call them Lunar Flare or Lunar Strike if you want. The names don't exist in-universe, you do realize?
>>543721495>Shadowheart is no true Selûnite like IsobelShadowheart was born a Selunite and would've been one if she wasn't kidnapped and brainwashed.
>>543721495Between those two, only Radiance does solely radiant damage, and Flame Strike deals both fire and radiant damage. This fits for Lathander because he represents the sun. Why does it fit for Selune?Why is Selune specifically giving Shadowheart the capacity to cast fire spells as part of her domain, even if she's deliberately not using them for some roleplay reason?If the abilities weren't named Radiance of the Dawn or "Flame" Strike, there'd be no argument.There's nothing hinting that they'd be Selunite powers, since the only fire-themed attacks she offers, used by Aylin, spread special moonfire that specifically only deals radiant damage.
>>543721809But that means she doesn't actually have any education in Selunite traditions or any of that shit. Selune just gives her a pass because of the situation. She basically just got a field promotion and wouldn't know shit.
>>543722014she doesn't actually have any education in Selunite traditions Her mind was wiped countless times so she probably did initially, she was doing a tradition when she was taken.
>>543722014Wouldn't it be more fitting to go for Life, then, since>she was trained as a healer for the Sharrans>life gets radiant strike to deal radiant damage>life is a Selune domain
>>543722280I suspect as a priestess of Shar she's probably taught a fair deal about them in their own warped context.
why does halsin even tag along in act 3
>>543722457Because he likes you
>>543722457If they were gonna add 2 druids they should've made one of them a shadow druid instead of having both be good aligned.
>>543721809She is no Selûnite in the moment. She is just a lost child asking for guidance, which is mercifully granted by a compassionate goddess.>>543721968Why is "Flame" Strike fire-themed when it's half-fire, half-radiant? Couldn't it also be radiant-themed under your logic? Selûne would allow Shadowheart to bend the rules somewhat. This is because the narrative (a goddess taking pity on a mortal) takes precedence over mechanics (but the rules state the spell also deals fire damage!).
>>543722457to fuck shadowheart for you
>>543722383There's honestly nothing wrong with her just keeping trickery other than the fact that it's a useless domain with nothing a cleric should ever need. She would be an exception as a cleric that suddenly turned, and that could just be a problem for tomorrow. I don't see why light from the moon can't also be fire and must be radiant damage personally (at least in the context of a game that doesn't offer the twilight domain), but whatever. I think knowledge is probably the most appropriate domain just because it's more similar, but without the sneaky/darkness shit. Healing domain would certainly make sense as a thing she would be motivated for (with her wound that can't be cured). Frankly I think she should just have the option to use divine intervention for that, but I guess that would kind of kill the tension of a certain choice.
>>543722841>Why is "Flame" Strike fire-themed when it's half-fire, half-radiant?Because casting it causes a burst of fire, hope this helps>Why not ignore that and what the gods grant every other follower of theirs?At this point, there should just be a mod that reflavors light to be more Selune-themed, since Aylin has moonfire for some of her moves.
>>543723126I don't know why Selune can't just heal her wound, Aylin says Shar and Selunes powers are equal and mirrored.
Why haven't you bullied mantharafag off of this general yet? Even fucking /tesg/ was able to do it
>>543723859I just filtered him, so all I see is him samefagging. I guess I could set it to hide those two, but it's easy enough to ignore instinctively
>>543717394Viconia?
>pepe>Even fucking /tesg/Leave.
Viconia was done dirty a pure Drow wouldn't age a day from the time of BG2
>>543724738Maybe that's what happens when they actually spend time in the sun
>>543724795Drizzt don't look old
is there a crack for nexus vortex launcher to download a pack like a premium member?i see a few good collections of 100+ mods but im not gonna download them all one by one thats retarded
>>543723859He's too autistic to realize people don't like him >/tesg/ was able to do ithow
>>543720376Like 4 single player games, and 5 or 6 multiplayer runs. For the SP games, 1 for the 1st run, 2nd for my "golden run" after I got experience, 3rd for honor mode, and 4th for golden run in honor mode with the last patch subclasses
The real tragedy of BG3 is that Raphael knew a spell to instantly undress people and took it to his grave.
>>543729865Rapist powers
>>543638814What is wrong with his character in your opinion?
>>543630350The worst part is that almost all of his camp dialogue is hooks into his sex flags, even the stuff that is completely innocuous.
>>543639138I doubt they'd ever work with Hasbro or WotC again.
>>543657596Death has been better for me.
>>543669849He's right you know.
>>543673545The domain is light, not moon. Selune is the moonmaiden but the domain is LIGHT.
>>543733809Light isn't one of Selune's domains in 5e. She only gets Life, Knowledge, and Twilight.
>>543735871It is in BG3.
>>543594382Watch gale bomb tossing speedruns, you will be even more surprised.
>>543733618It's true. I always multiclass Astarion
>>543735871It's funny that Eilistraee who's another goddess of doing stuff at night does get the light domain.
>>543737597Why is she naked in every depiction of her I've seen?
>>543737597Corellon Larethian literally has a moon (or a star) for a symbol and has the light domain
>>543690578Moon causes ebb and flow... Tempest eric!
>>543720376I found out about brothel... I need to avoid that...
>>543737706Her priests also dress like this. That's a requirement.
>>543737706After Lolth's rebellion the drow were banished. Eilistraee wasn't part of the rebellion but she thought it was unjust that an entire people were cursed and punished for Lolth's actions and threw away her luxurious possessions in Arvandor (including clothes), running after them and dedicated her existence to helping them away from Lolth. That's why she's naked even in her cult symbol.
>>543720376I've started BG3 a dozen times but have never made it past early Act 2 because I always get the urge to restart and play something different and then lose interest after I realize how much replaying Act 1 blows
>>543744071Just think of the bright future while doing dank crypt and blighted village again
>>543744071>because I always get the urge to restartYou must resist the Dark Urge™!
Gale and Lorroakan having a dick measuring contest is funny as hell is it always like that when two wizards are in the same room?
>>543720376I did not complete BG3 yet, only started recently and have just 30 hours of playtime - not even done with act 1, but I have already seen lots of moments for flexibility with 'what if?' situations and I'm already planning what I'm gonna play next. In the past I have played absolute shit out of KOTOR, KOTOR 2, and Dragon Age: Origins with dozens of full replays. I don't know man, there is something special about these classic turn-based RPGs and their story that you just can't stop once you are hooked. They are very relaxing and chill, it's like watching a good movie or a TV series. While there are these fixed and scripted major story points - the journey to the those major points is much more important and impactful.At same time I really enjoyed my first full playthrough through Witcher 3 which is an another amazing game, but I never replayed it - the 'action' element makes it slightly more exhausting.
Should I make extra preparations if I want to keep the Harpers alive at Moonrise? I'm thinking about freezing multiple Water Barrel puddles as a physical separation between them and Absolute forces in the Main Hall.
>>543747715I'm sure that would work if you do it right, though you might need a fog cloud or darkness spell on top of it. I suspect just using crowd control on your actual enemies and burning a few extra resources to kill shit faster would be lower maintenance though
>>543747715You can just rush in if you think you can tank the zealots, kill Z'rell earlier etc
>if you get knocked out before talking to Vlaakith and have Lae'zel in group, Vlaakith will talk to her instead and she automatically agrees to everything.Now I kind of want to know what happens if you have a companion Shadowheart in that scene, will she spill her spaghetti and get you a game over?
>>543732862>no personality>nothing interesting about him>boring design, he doesn't even have a unique starting outfit>his tiefling transformation leads to literally nothing>he does nothing in act 2>his story doesn't have a single interesting beat>mizora is underused>he doesn't have a sex scene>he has no chemistry with the companions>his backstory is the worst in the game
>>543749183Some of that I agree with, but he does have stuff to do in act 2
>>543747715I always systematically take out most of the zealots and adepts that patrol around well before the siege. Even z'rell and the 2 ogres can be taken out as long as you kill the eyes asap. the siege gets reduced to 4 zealots, like 2 adepts and the hobgoblin.
>>543720376Yeah several.I just sit back and enjoy. bg3 is my late night comfy game where I am under no time expectations and I'm just enjoying the nice graphics and fancy cutscenes and having fun rolling some dice, and of course spending time with me waifu.And when you're playing coop, you're focusing on that, so the parts of the game hat are similar between palythroughs have other stuff going on. coop really does make the game totally different. mods too, if you're feeling like the game is same-y between playthroughs, give additional encounters and tactician enhanced a look, they will liven it back up and make things feel fresh again.
>>543748392To obscure them from the enemy's ranged units? I just want them to keep out of the way. I plan to start with CC carpet bombing but their Paladins worry me, I expect them to Smite the shit out of Harpers if the two ever gets into melee range. Ice Surface seems to be a good idea.>>543748445I'll go through the Kitchen to kind of flank their forces and to get the most out of the Gnolls. Z'rell is obviously priority #1, followed by their other casters. Keeping the Harpers alive and not aggroing them sounds to be the hardest part, and for that I feel they have to be contained.>>543749948I'm afraid it's too late for that. Only an Ogre (killed by Z'rell) and the Warden with two guards and their Eyes are dead. I'll also visit the Prison after the Main Hall as I heard there's a great optional fight down there that gives lots of XP.
>>543750472you forgot ''making essays about shadowheart'' during bg3's loading times
>>543749148The only way to get a game over in that part is by challenging her godhood status it makes her so mad she uses a wish spell.
>>543752131>>543752260his horns are so fucking gross
i hate the Emperor so much it's unreal
>>543752462I am disappointed to hear that.
>>543692025cute frog!
>>543682009lol cucked-ass europe. low-testosterone behavior
>>543717394
chad
>when being used with Dual Wielding a returning Thrown weapon comes back to the Off-Hand slotYou learn something new every day, huh? It sucks as it lowers your damage output but I understand why it works like this on the mechanical level.
>>543720376I’ve completed the game all the way through three times, with several other less successful attempts. After reaching the first ending, I wanted to uncover every little nook and cranny of the game: rare items, hidden areas, and especially everything about the character: their dialogue lines and personal stories.It was a very different experience from the vanilla game, with many mods, but honestly, my second and third playthroughs were my favorites.>What motivates you to keep going during the samey parts that dont change / unaffected by your decisions?While the main plot is always substantially the same, different interactions can lead to new and unexpected events that will keep the experience fresh, and also pure curiosity and awe of this game
Good at fightingGood at magicGood at talkingGood at thieveryGet pussy like madBards are truly the ubermensch
>>543757645>no bard companionthis is so lame
>>543737891a star is a sun>>543735871idk why there are some determined to make the fire cleric subclass fit selune. just do life cleric or knowledge cleric? shart "saw the truth" and revealed her true heritage so doesn't knowledge fit the most? trickery and knowledge are pretty similar already
>>543759125The problem with knowledge domain is that a lot of the stuff there is good if you're the party face but feels wasted on companion shart. Life cleric is good but means going full healslut, with no potent spellcasting for cantrips that knowledge and light both do get.
>>543759604well yeah knowledge isn't a very good domain. it's barely a step above trickery but it is the most logical one for her. trickery and knowledge have thematic overlap and some similar spells. trickery has a bit more focus on stealth while knowledge gets detect thoughts and speak with animals and stuff. both get cc spells like slow or fear. i feel like its supposed to be selune's life domain vs shar's death domain. selune's knowledge domain vs shar's trickery domain. trickery domain is about deceiving the enemy. knowledge domain is about finding the truth. if knowledge domain were powerful you guys would all be using it. instead you take light domain, which doesn't make much sense since its a fire cleric, because its better in combat. that's fine, you can do what ever you want in your game, but its weird people are saying its thematically the best. its clearly not. it doesn't suit her very well at all
>>543760402I've just had her using death domain even if she spares the Nightsong, instant respec at that moment doesn't really make sense since there is no story indicating her abilities change, just that someone else is providing them.
>>543758442Alfirabros... we were robbed...>>543759604At least all the Orb and Reverberation gear is still there to help with the offensive end. Most people probably used them on Shadowheart before that point anyways.
>>543764415no you don't
thinkn bout frogs...
what's your fave bg3 song?for me it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr5IV14pYu8
>>543769516https://youtu.be/5TCOtEJD6zk?si=W_2mcEbqyj-s1MMtnot a song but definitely my favorite ost
>>543769832oh boy i never heard this because i always tell the guy to kill himself
>>543769516I don't think i have single favorite, there's a lot of great traclshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mB_LL2Qi2Qhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd_2Q9UXUgIthis one reminds me of the shadow temple from OOThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7ptTVqoHQ
>>543769516minty cute!
>>543775069Me
>>543724738Unless she was already aged when she was banished, or Shar sneakily drained her life when she used the mirror.
>>543720376Six different posters managed to reply to that post without posting their avatar. The attention-whoring pig had to be different.
>>543777930it's funny because you're the only other poster that announces when they're here and keeps spamming corny catchphrases
>every single character in a camp is fucking annoying scumbag which deserves to be killed on sight>dog is the only non-toxic characteris the game playable if i kill all these dumb mfers and eat their worms? got i wish there was a recruitment or something. i have this undead guy in my camp but i assume he well be recruiting some ugly undeads who i cannot rape
>>543778987The game is fully playable without recruiting a single companion. That undead guy in your camp can provide you hirelings at level 3 and above. There will be another animal who you can recruit in the Goblin Camp under certain circumstances.
>>543778987>complaining about companions being scumbags>I can't rapedo moralityfags really?
>>543758442Because Bards are the main character
What is the best wizard subclass and why is it transmutation?
>>543780435paladins are MC coded and we still got a pally companion, having a bard companion while playing a bard tav would have been peak
Maybe people should have pushed for a Bard or Sorcerer companion back in early access instead of fucking Halsin who has the same class as Jaheira.
>>543780962they did, halsin wasn't even the most requested companion back in the EA, it was alfira, zevlor & nere
>>543781082I would take Alfira, Zevlor and Nere over Halsin and Minthara
>>543778650Don't you have some irrelevant tweet to share?>>543760402>knowledge domain is about finding the truthThis is no less dubious a justification than saying the Light domain fits post-Act 2 Shadowheart better because "she has found the light." We can both justify our favored domain in our own way, but in practice, Light offers more thematic abilities - a wave of radiant energy, a sphere of light that dispels the darkness, a light flare that prevents damage - than Knowledge with its Confusion and Dominate Person spells, which a former Sharran might balk at using.
>>543754992adorablewhat song is he singing?
>>543781309 it went from funny to sad
Why are you fags still arguing about cleric domains
>>543782328Light domainfags need to be educated so they respec Shart properly
>>543782328that's all we have left until swen announces his space rpg
>>543782328Because it's a topic that came up, courtesy of the namefag, and because enough people seemed interested in talking about the game for once. We can, of course, discuss more important and relevant topics. What are your thoughts on cheating the dice rolls in a dice-based roleplaying game?
>>543782328It's a Shadowheart adjacent topic.
Which cleric domain and god fits Astarion
>>543779539yeah, i got the druid guy, but he seems also suspicious. he was talking something about shadow curse or something, and he sounds like he really knows more about it that he tells. without looking it up anywhere - i just feel like this fat mfer is guilty of that shadow curse whatever it is, and is now trying to redeem himself by roleplaying a good leader. and also those damn "innocent refugees" - god i wish i killed them all, those stupid punks were trying to steal from me. on my second playthrough i will be definitely just annihilating everyone on sight - they all deserve to be killed.
>>543785074I don't know about god but death domain I guess
>>543785675>Halsin is in his camphahahahahaha
>>543786126yeah, stuck with that fat punk. i also killed spicy senorita who wanted to annihilate and rape all the redskins - it was such a mistake bros. at least she was hot.
>>543786347Perhaps you'd care for a little extra company...His only purpose in game is to fuck you and cuck youJust kill him
Oak Father preserve us all.
>>543785074None he doesn't worship any gods
>>543786640What about Gale?
>>543786493im waiting for him to expose himself. im like 99% confident this asshole is pure evil, so i just wait for the right opportunity to confront him in front of everyone and publicly execute him.
>>543786832>in front of everyoneWho? You killed everyone. Withers doesn't care.
>>543785675Jeez, you're playing fast! Beware with spoilers in this general. I always mark them but that's not the norm. All I'm saying is wrap everything up before stepping into the Monastery Trail. It furthers the time and some chars and/or quests might be unavailable after. Other than that, you'll have two areas where you can proceed to Act 2: the mentioned Monastery / Githyanki Creche and the Grymforge in the Underdark. You can clear both and in any order as long as you don't take the elevator or walk to the Shadow-Cursed Land. before visiting the other.
I multiclass shadowheart into star duid to have her larp as a selunite cleric still think she should just drop the cleric class if she betrays shar
>>543786347>she was hot
>>543786832As if some tree hugger would curse an entire region and destroy the environment
>>543787082Only rogue fits her education
>>543786832Everyone loves Halsin, Wyll and Karlach (the shittiest companions) btw. You can't be mean to them. >>543752131
>>543787119well, more hot that the fat druid guy at least lol
Summoning cuck webms!
>>543785675>on my second playthrough i will be definitely just annihilating everyone on sight - they all deserve to be killedBased basedAlso play as Wyll
reminder that Daylight fits Selûne thematically and if you disagree you're a sharchud
>>543788238My angel
>>543788304Selune is the moon goddess not the sun goddess
>>543787236gloomstalker as well, luckily combining both makes a sick build>>543788304>Selûne, also known as Our Lady of Silver, the Moonmaiden, and the Night White Lady, was the goddess of the moon in the Faerûnian pantheon. In the 14th and 15th centuries DR, she held the portfolios of the moon, stars, navigation, navigators, wanderers, questers, seekers, and non-evil lycanthropes.no lol
Bought this game and tried my hardest to enjoy it Can't understand shit : dice throws, save throws, combat, spells, what the fuck is going on in this shit ass story anyway ? 12 hours in and all I know is that I have something in my head that needs removing. How slow can this get ? Back to combat : why is it so hard ? Enemies all seem ten times more clever than I am, and I feel lucky to even land one blow, if any. Why do I have to prepare spell slots and not use any I know of when I feel like it ? Why does the game ask me to get prepared when I don't know what the fuck I'm going to face anyway? Here's 50 spells, chose well, you might need one in particular in the next 50 hours ! Or maybe not, who the fuck knowsI don't know what the fuck I am playing and I'm frustrated.
>>543789806>Anonymous discovers Dungeons & Dragons
>>543789806This is the dumbed down edition of D&D it used to be even more complicated.
>>54378980670iq post
>>543789806Set difficulty to easy and rest as often as you can.
>>543789631He's so real for this.
>>543790740>updated less than bg3>engine so dogshit it eats up more resources while looking like a 90s gamewhat a dogshit studio
>>543791008My bad, I don't know how I ended up here bro
thinking about Savage Attackerintuitively I have the idea that a 0-100 roll with Advantage would average to 75 (yes that's not a D&D roll, it's just a hypothetical), but this might be completely wrong
Wyll should've been a rogue. One fag is asking me to play co-op. I might join him but I will make him look into my ugly character (Wyll) all the time to make him suffer. But I need at least one warlock level to keep it canon. Any good rogue/warlock multiclasses? Or just drop warlock? He sold his soul for power he doesn't even use.
>>543789971>>543790449I aint familiar with DnD Ill admit. All of this is confusing to me. I just wanted to play a nice RPG with a nice story. Can you even play this game without save scumming is my question : Game puts you in unfamiliar situations all the time and expects you to know 100% how to deal with each ? Do I need to watch Youtube essays regarding the game prior to playing it ?
>>543789806You're wasting your time.You're most likely going to look at the classes, get excited and plan a Fighter-Rogue-Wizard-Cleric build, then make your first character, probably on a shitter difficulty, only to kill yourself after the first 2 hours, and come back here asking what you did wrong, expecting us to spoonfeed you.We'll tell you to fuck off and read the OP and use the wiki like the rest of us, and you will. You'll make another character and try something new. You'll get to level 4 or so, get bored, and ask when the game gets fun. You'll eventually start asking inane questions, like what happens if you eat tadpoles, and we'll tell you to read the OP and fuck off again. You'll say something like, "Wah wah you bullies" and continue playing. You'll hit level 6 and realize this game is just about rolling dice so you can roll more dice. You'll complain about this here, and we'll tell you, "It's a D&D GAME, you faggot." A game in which you roll dice.Enjoy, you fucking moron. Get the fuck out of our general.
>>543792114you do need to read everything and at least try to understand it, including the combat log. the entire system is open and understandable, unlike other "RPGs" where mechanics are obscured. you can't just go in and basic attack all enemies without thinking and do well. use "t" to inspect descriptions and read the words in yellow, or turn tooltips on if you use a controllerpay attention to all aspects of an action : its cost, its range, if it's once per short rest/once per long rest, and whether it is concentration.
>>543792114Story mode and respec everyone to human male fighters at Withers (he'll appear in your camp)
>>543791416Savage Attacker is essentially Advantage for your damage rolls. Not a top Feat but useful regardless. Somebody did the math and it's like like 27.5% plus pennies extra damage per hit on average.>>543789806>Can't understand shitRead the Tutorials. (It doesn't have dedicated button, press J for the Journal and there will be on the right.) Alternatively look up beginner's guides that explain it.>How slow can this get ? Feel free to take your time. The narrative pushes you to rush but there's no need, you aren't on the timer at all.>Why do I have to prepare spell slots and not use any I know of when I feel like it ? Vancian casting. Deciding what you might need is part of the preparation. There's no "next 50 hours", since used Spell slots recharge at Long Rests (and you will surely do that a lot) that's your scope.
>>543792530Lol
>>543792114Restart as Astarion! He's overpowered! +1 to dice rolls at all times after Nautiloid! And he has the best dialogues too!
>>543789806>>543792114Perhaps watching a crash course on DnD mechanics wouldnt be a bad idea.But a lot of concepts are very similar to what youll find in other RPGs, dice are the analog version of a RNG.Stuff like rolling a 20 for a crit == 5% crit chance, and saving throws are equivalent to a resistance %.Save scumming/reading guides is up to you, but making shitty decisions on your first playthrough is part of the experienceAs for spells and spell slots, you can just ignore them at the beginning . Every spell casters has 1 or 2 spells that are strong, you can just spam those, e.g. spirit guardian for clerics. You can respec/change them at any point once you feel more comfortable with the mechanics
>>543792114You can absolutely play it without save scumming. Nobody excepts you to know 100% what's going to happen, half of the fun is adjusting on-fly and solving whatever the game throws at you. But you also have to be willing to learn at least the basics and be more and more familiar with the tools the game provides as you progress. In theory the built-in tutorial and actually reading descriptions should be enough but hovering over practically anything should also break down the numbers for you. Same goes for the combat log.
>>543791416A die starting with 0 doesn't make much sense for D&D. [2d100, drop lowest] has an expected value of around 67.16. In practice, the wiki already spoonfeeds you the average bonus damage for each damage die, so you can just plug in numbers.https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Savage_Attacker#Notes
>>543793992>Nobody excepts you to know 100% what's going to happen, half of the fun is adjusting on-fly and solving whatever the game throws at youSharters didn't know...
freezing a dildo in a fridge to imagine astarion
>>543794910
>>543793992>Three fuckers near the grove start speaking non sense about some absolute and whatnot>they seem important albeit retarded looking>Don't know what the fuck is going on>One dialogue option triggers combat>Have to kill emTellme I won't realize in act 3 they were part of something greater or whatever. I hate this trope. >You were forced to kill this guy>Turns out this guy matters a lot and is vital for the good ending, too bad !
astarion is stealing pads
okay bros, i finished full first map on the ground and explored all areas i could - now it wants me to go to mountain pass (have both entrances). i did not do the nightsong thing underground - should i do it before going to mountain pass? it tell me that i should blah-blah finish everything before proceeding, so i would assume there will be no way back? but the druid mfer also told me that the underground passage will take me to twin towers (or what was it called) - so if i go underground now will i miss the mountain pass thing? i kinda wanna do bothbtw game is so freaking good holy shit how did i sleep on it for couple of years
Thoughts on Astarion mod in Skyrim
>>543796349I explained this all in advance at >>543786967. Just to make sure you get it right: the surface is the Mountain Pass and the Creche, the underground is the Underdark and the Grymforge.
I have no idea why, but it took until after the Apostle of Myrkul fight for the owlbear cub to show up.
Lae'zel x the Emperor
>>543797282thanks bro, i did not read that one initially because i saw word spoilers and scrolled away lol. thanks, will do the underground then carefully and then the dragon punk from monastery road - i wish i just killed him right away, he was such a prick. and this orc-like girl in camp - she is really grinding my gears, i think i will also kill her at some point - already 2 times she tried to stab me in the camp wtf is she think she's doing. man these companions are pissing me off so much it is unreal
>>543796905does it have his voice
>>543796905i neeeed it but i dont have special edition lol>>543789631and he's right
>kill all origin characters>game is now playable
>>543797943Yes, kill that ugly bitch!
>>543798394Are they Astarion and Wyll?
>>543797943>he didn't pay attention to the cutsceneorc girl was unironically right when she said you were transforming into GHAIK
>>543795694They're nobodies
>>543798661no! she's lying! my guardian waifu told me im doing good and i should get strong!
>>543797801Probably because you didn't rest that often and it got stuck in the backlog as more scenes appeared in camp.
>>543798990>everyone: bugs are bad>dream guardian: akshully bugs good eat ze bugs
>>543799113they all lying and jealous!
>>543797943No problem! Just don't forget to bring he Orc-like girl to the Monastery Road and beyond. She already explained why if you talked to her, it's a crucial part of her companion quest. I also started with the Monastery during my first run, completed everything there (minus the transition to Act 2 ofc) then went to the underground area and eventually finished the act by taking the Grymforge elevator. I can only recommend, especially for new players. This is important as you end up at different parts of the Act 2 map depending on which route you take.
>>543799113Astarion and Minthata like bugs.
>>543799736and both are evil
>>543799794And both are based and the best companions
>>543799934minthara yes astarion no
>>543799980>minthara>best lol waifutardism
very unhinged behaviour
Minthara's the hardest companion to get exceptional approval with her standards are high.
>>543800215They only get mad if you show dead waifus. Anyone nootice.
what? it's hot when he kills women
I can't live through the crushing weight of my weapon coatings and arrows
>>543801178Not me I sell it all
he's perfect
still unhinged btw
The toadcel seething
frogschizo maldingits like yin and yang
Are any of the origin character playthroughs interesting enough to bother with other than Durge?
Can't we all just get along? All Waifus and husbandos are equally valid, there's no need for violence.
>>543802316most bg3 romances are pretty ass t b h women only got a single good one and gay men are cooked if they're not into halsin
>>543802316
>run tests in the camp with ice surfaces>accidentally pimped out Shart's tentQuicksilver is the new color trend for the autumn.
>>543802058why spoiler it, saved also
>>543802093Yes, for example, Shadowheart can lose her fight with Lae'zel, and the Emperor will blow her up. Very cute. He's really a hero and a savior.
It's still baffling that this game never added proper custom created companions after all the patches.
not unhinged btw
I'll start taking dead Laezel pics
>>543802840https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/10000it takes a lot of work unlike skyrim or fallout custom companions because the average bg3 companion got 10k to 50k lines
>>543802618>that one dress but a tent
anyone else don't like having companions out of their starter outfit/armour? i use the transmog mod to put on upgrades but keep the appearances.
>>543803016I meant letting you create silent companion minions from scratch with the creator instead of using larian's premade withers companions, that wouldn't be hard to add at all.
>>543802987Share them
>>543803191Yes, let them stink. Don't buy new underwear.
>>543803616Later when he's having a fit
Is "toadcel" an individual or anyone who likes Lae'zel?
>>543804160Its a guy
>>543804160its basically anyone you don't like. its a very basic pattern of behaviour>mintharafag dunking on your waifu? boom mantharafag>frogchad dunking on your waifu? boom toadcel
I still have no idea what the deal with Gerringothe Thorn is
>>543804160it's the namefag
>>543800215Very nice of her to paint a mark on her neck. We know exactly where to cut.
>>543804441>defending namefag>frogchadnot very subtle of you
doesn't make what i said less true
>>543781309>This is no less dubious a justification than saying the Light domain fits post-Act 2 Shadowheart better because "she has found the light."In this case, knowledge domain is the direct opposite of trickery. Truth versus deception. A lot more justified imo. Light will always be problematic due to the Sun theme. Shart wouldn't have any problem using dominate person or confusion.
>>543804887meant for>>543804792
>>543804648She was a greedy corrupt tollhouse keeper that turned into a greedy insane monster
>>543805203>open spoiler expecting dead waifu>not deadlame
>>543805740what happened to his clothes
>>543805889nothing should hide his beauty
I can ignore the cuck memesI can ignore the gods revolving around herI can ignore the half werewolf half elf half human thingbut why did they cut Shadowheart changing her Shar-themed hair thingy when she abandons Shar?
>>543806890they are lazy
>>543806890Same reason each companion's tent in camp doesn't gradually change over the chapters, and instead everyone just has their endgame camp right away: there were some small bugs with a few coding triggers even as the game approached launch, so some things were scrapped.They did several post-launch patches that added plenty of new stuff or polished lots of unfinished stuff, but a few things remained forgotten. Like the camp tents and shart's hairclip.
>>543805443I get that, but I feel like there probably should have been some setup to why tricking it into giving you gold kills it. Or I just missed that
>>543807441>avatar of greed>force/trick it into being the opposite of greed>it diesare people just retarded
>>543807629I understand that such a story could exist and the themes involved, but there's no reason to think it would work that way with the context given.
>>543807792>but there's no reason to think it would work that way with the context given.???
>>543806890>they cut Shadowheart changing her Shar-themed hair thingy when she abandons Sharwhat
>>543807937I think he means the thing on her ponytail with the black jewel
>>543806890you can download and use the datamined hairpiece but the physics don't work on it. larian probably couldn't get it to work before the game released so they scrapped it
>>543807937he's talking about this probably
Using the custom companion's lite mod, I've developed an idea most ingenius, to have fun with RP. I'm thinking of using it to have twin Durges. Or more specifically, one Durge is the custom one that can speak, while the other is the Dragonborn Durge who can be found dead. The idea is that the Dragonborn will be the custom one, with the premise that due to being stabbed in the head more violently, he's far more mute and unresponsive. What do you guys think?
>>543809392You look like a caveman
>>543809615Fuck you, Jaheira has the best hair, and gold is the best.
>>543810079>gold is the bestgypsy behavior
>>543810259My Durge is a Drow, not a filthy Gur.
>>543810771>m*le drow
>>543811056Yeah, he's a male, he's a drow, and he's not gonna let that keep him down.
>>543811253Into the cage you go, slave.
>>543811383I named him Lord Rodin. You can't do this to him. I even made him a vampire to try and have a Drow who believes in his own superiority more than usual.
>>543811721>I even made him a vampireBased Astarion's slave
>>543807441>>543807792Reithwin was a prosperous town due to it's central location on the trade routes to Baldur's Gate: whether traders transported their goods on foot (Risen Road) or water (Chionthar) they had to go through it and pay for the privilege. This made the position of toll collector so important that a Thorm got appointed to do it. Gerringothe obviously excelled at the job but like the rest of her family she was a sheisty motherfucker. Even as the situation deteriorated around Ketheric and trade slowed down she still charged excessive fees, but as the sources started drying up she showed signs of obsession. She might have claimed to be a mere bureaucrat collecting funds for the town but in reality she needed the gold for her own sake. It wasn't about the love of service but the love of material wealth. This is what you use against her: passing a check basically gives her a reality check and see herself for what she is, and she probably recognizes she's beyond saving and there's only way out. Pointing out their hypocrisy, outsmarting them in their own games or exploiting their delusions is an important aspect with each Thorm mini-bosses.
>>543812010How dare you? He's a Karlach, Shadowheart, ad Lae'zel lover. I already held to deal with Wyll's gay ass before, isn't it enough that I went with the option to let Astarion drink his blood every night?
It's kind of disappointing that Baltazar never came back from the dead after all the talk about death not mattering with him.
>>543813301I'm kind of wondering if the Thorms were just always a corrupt as fuck crime family that were always Sharan's living in secret (until they no longer had to), and Isobel was just the exception that drank the koolaid of what they were only pretending to believe. Rather then him first falling to Shar and then Myrkul I mean. There's both cut content and intentional lack of information there, so it's hard to say, but that seems more consistent. It explains why he kept all his other relatives as undead mockeries anyway.
>>543813801>I went with the option to let Astarion drink his blood every nightSo you are Astarion's slave
>>543814272I let Astarion get killed by Lathander and used Barbarian dialogue against him. You tell me who's a slave. No thanks to you, now I'm getting an idea of the dynamic for the twin Durges.
>>543814568And apologized with feeding him again?
I need a male drow to beat on
>>543814216Ketheric was fine until his daughter started a lesbian relationship with an immortal and then died, that's what pushed him over the edge. There's statues of him as a young Selunite with no beard.
>>543815690But why would an actual Selunite give a shit? It's like the religion that's entirely for moon worshiping lesbians
>>543814949>>543815423This isn't how male drow should be treated. Male Drow deserve some respect, damn it! At least the Seldarine maybe. Isn't it enough that the have to suffer under the idignities of the, "Woe of man"?
>>543816582t. male drow
>>543814216>if the Thorms were just always a corrupt as fuck crime familyIt's implied that Ketheric solely became a Selunite for Melodia's sake.Whether that's actually the case is disputed as it's stated that Moonrise Towers was constructed for Ketheric *and* Selune, so him only swapping faith for the sake of marriage might seem odd, the mason essentially states that Reithwin / Moonrise was erected by Selunites.It's not like Act 2 is short on timeline inconsistencies, but Ketheric solely becoming a Selunite for sake of Selunite pussy could fit the bill.>It explains why he kept all his other relatives as undead mockeries anyway.Eh, Thisobald by his own words was cursed by Ketheric.My pet theory is that Thisobald leaked the information about Aylin / Nightsong to the outside world and was punished by Ketheric for it>Thisobald speculated about Ketheric's immortality>knows about Aylin / Nightsong>knowledge about Nightsong somehow ended up in Ramazith's notesit always bothered me that Lorroakan learned about Nightsong from Ramazith's notes when it's actually a carefully guarded secret.Thisobald selling that knowledge (or accidentally revealing it) to someone who then sold it to Ramazith seems not too far fetchedAs for the other two...who knows, Malus seems a die hard Sharran so Shar might have protected / twisted him.On the toll chick, i'm simply blank beyond that the Thorms might simply be a special case due to their family ties to Ketheric and their ancestral lands.
>go to respec Karlach>Withers lectures her on being an incelI didn't realize he does that for every character
>>543825617Withers hates non sex havers
>>543825617
>>543825617i could have sworn it didn't used to do that
Psst, hey you! Want to see some rare frogs?
>>543832189
>>543832189One of the camp ambushers?
>>543833639Close, it's one of the first gith you fight after entering the portal.
>>543832189Dreads look so stupid on a frog.
>>543832189We need to talk about Zephyr Gish'ra Hr'ack'la.
>>543840501>seeped in blissSounds fun
>>543832189>>543840501post ch'rai tskva
>>543840501Encountered her today in my run. Some impressive detail on her mantle if you zoom in.
Drink break.
>>543825617Why wouldn't he? Progression with dialogues is often stored per character. In some cases it's treated as a one-time event (like quests can't be turned on multiple times) but otherwise this is roughly the norm. Despite this being one of the quirks of Larian's system they're not well prepared to handle it. I often use my companions to exhaust all dialogue options without reloading for unimportant NPCs and it led to some interesting situations. E.g. I unwittingly scammed the Asian-looking Harper who's willing to buy Yonas' blade from you. I've triggered her grieving scene with 3 of my party members without using the dedicated dialogue to sell the thing, and after doing it with my last companion she paid all 4 of us (4×125 Gold instead of 1×125 as reward). Or there's Mattis who acts like as if he still had the Tower-Shaped Key whenever I approach him with anyone but my Tav despite the fact that I looted the place it belongs to 20 hours ago.
Shadowheart casting guidance on you while doing nothing else to help when you're on the ground during Astarion's introduction/ambush is a pretty funny mental image
>>543820104>>543847840>>543840501Why do you continue to post this shit?
Nooo shadowbaby not in front of withers!
dark drippy drussy
>>543849390For me, it's influencing Shadowheart's life-changing decision with the help of her own Guidance.
Circle of Stars kinda fucks with the Wild Shape "economy" in a way. They last until long rest or death, while the charges themselves refresh on Short Rest. Realistically, you only need one unless you somehow need every different form per rest (before level 10). But I'm guessing that's why it's a patch subclass rather than a vanilla subclass.
>>543847840This looks so fucking bad kek
I finally picked up BG3 in the last Steam sale and am giving it a proper run. Really enjoying it, but I'm conflicted on one specific thing:I started a run where I found myself relying on Astarion a lot and felt he was a requirement for my party, while also not really liking him as a character or feeling like he fit the characterization of my Tav.Wasn't too far in and decided to restart with a more fun Rogue/Ranger build of my own based on some of what I learned (and so I wouldn't have to rely on Astarion), while personality-wise playing them more like a kindred spirit to Karlach's attitude and outlook. Got to the bite night event, and felt like it was the right decision for my character and in the moment to defend myself, and found myself staking Astarion dead.The metagamer in me is yelling that obviously I shouldn't kill a companion, even if I don't personally like them or plan to use them in this run. I also feel kind of bad about how his death went. At the same time, I feel like it's in-character and the game broadly seems to agree with that conclusion, given pretty much the entire camp went "yep, good job killing the vampire who tried to suck you dry in your sleep, won't let someone like THAT in again."Was this *such* a bad choice for my first true run of the game that I should undo it and keep Astarion around? I'm more than aware I'll miss out on content, but I'm not sure how much and if I'll completely regret it hours and hours from now.
>>543852182Not exactly the same thing, but all things considered Lae'zel was very forgiving about that time I used friends to convince her to side against Vlaakith
>>543856125There's an area in the last act that has a major quest tied to him. Pretty sure you can still do it without him, but I haven't so I don't know the details. I'd say just run with it. You aren't missing out on anything other than hearing the character say shit for the most part
>>543856125no areas are locked out if you stake him but you do obviously miss his interaction in those events
>>543856125Objectively speaking, Astarion is one of the least involved companions with regard to the plot. Get rid of Lae'zel, and you miss out on the most knowledgeable person about the gith and the mind flayers. Get rid of Shadowheart, and you miss out on the most knowledgeable person about Shar, who happens to be very central to Act 2. No companion is strictly necessary - you have the freedom to kill every last one of them - but of the main ones, Astarion doesn't feel quite as "mandatory." BG3 is a game that incentivizes multiple playthroughs, so I wouldn't feel bad about killing Astarion if you feel that's in-character.
>>543859083>>543856125wyll is very involved in the main plot and he's objectively a garbage character that brings nothing to bg3, giving astarion the boot is a bad idea, he grows on most players and he has one of the coolest companion quests in the game + the game gives you tons of opportunities to fuck him over throughout the game which means that you'll get to have fun bullying him even if you hate his guts
The non-character is not even a character, so he wasn't considered in the context of that post. His relevance to the plot is purely incidental - his daddy is a very important person in Baldur's Gate - and you only really lose out on Mizora's sexiness if you dismiss him. He's also fine to get rid of if you dislike him. Each playthrough is its own story, and you should never feel obligated to recruit everyone just because it's the "right" thing to do.
>>543860789ok
Gale was more powerful than Jon Irenicus before the orb and tadpole
Daddy halsin is underrated
Why does nobody call minthara mommy?
>>543863813Jon Irenicus was a fucking loser and is only remembered fondly and thought of as a good villain because of his VA's performance.
>>543874318nah jon was cool they should have done something similar in bg3 and introduce the chosens earlier and let you talk to them, they were at some point planning on doing that, datamining showed that orin was supposed to show up in act 2 in the mountain pass to tadpole a dragon that's where voss was supposed to be wounded
>>543874318Irenicus is one of the most powerful wizards to ever live and is probably the only person to ever steal the Slayer form without it being gifted by Bhaal.
>>543863813>Gale was [HEADCANON]Irenicus was an epic level 30 in BG2, which would easily translate to a maximum level 20 in 5E after the level squish. He had access to 9th-level spells (including Time Stop), was immune to most disabling effects (including stun), and had 75% damage resistance if you somehow managed to bypass his defensive barriers (including Absolute Immunity). This is someone who attempted apotheosis and nearly succeeded. He would make "archmage" Gale look like a first-year apprentice still learning to cast cantrips.
bros i just cant with these mfers>go to mushroom people>hurr durr help us kill le bad guys because they bad mkay>some fat mushroom tags along to help>find le bad guys>they have started a fucking mushroom genocide because of fucking BOOTS>kill le bad guys>fat mushroom suddenly goes full retard mode and wants to annihilate other mushrooms>kill the fat traitor>come back for a report>given dead and tortured prisoner and access to his prison cell as a "sekret reward"god i be killin' all these damn bastards on second playthrough, i be killin every single one of them on sightliterally every single character i meet turns out to be some god damn doctor evil in disguise. there is a need for a freaking crusade in these lands.this game is fucking amazing
>>543877150Use Speak with Dead on the Drow corpse, preferably after you looted him and read everything he had on him. Equip the amulet from the first dungeon next to the Grove. You mentioned having Withers in your camp, if you have him it's 99% you have the amulet.
>>543871336cringe
>>543871336wyll was around that age when mizora groomed him and people are fine with it
>>543879987You’re right. We need moral outrage. How DARE that infernal wench. Doesn’t she realize this is practically pedophilia?! I am SO fucking angry about this. People need to wake up!
>>543880083justice for wyll
>>543856125No, what your character would do is 100% the correct thing to do. You're playing the game correctly.There's nothing stopping you from playing a character in the future that is different and would keep him around, at which point you can see all his quests and conversations. He's a fun, well written character, but like you said he requires some serious leeway early on to even stay in the party. So maybe your next character will put up with his nonsense at the start and see what he does later. The game has a couple or a few playthroughs built into it anyway, between the various story decisions and using party members you didn't use much last time and various achievements and of course the various classes and races etc to play as.
bros which companions are most-impactful with regards to interaction with the world? im running with orc-like girl, shedevil, and magic addict. playing as shadowheart because initially she was pissing me off so much with her emo talks so i had two choices - either kill her or start a playthrough as her so she just shuts up.so far orc-like girl is the most active in dialogues and situations, gale is kinda lacking heavily although still providing some interesting context sometimes, and shedevil - sometimes i forget she is even in the group, she is very passive.im still finishing act 1 and it feels like like im missing on the context and dialogues. should i replace gale and shedevil with astarion and wyll or druid guy?i understand that all of them have various unique interactions at certain stages of the game, but which ones have the most of world engagement or are the most good all-around with regards to interactions for all acts?
>He’s a fun, well written character This is objectively untrue btw
>orc-like girl
>>543883001Toad and Shadowheart are fine when paired together. They have banter and relevance from Act 1-2. Gale is a good final pick because he’s the smarter foil to their pettiness and emotional bickeringI never use Karlach or Wyll. They just suck. Everything important/interesting in their story can be experienced even if they are benched from beginning to end Astarion has plenty of dialogue. His romance is exclusively for mentally challenged Tavs, but he brings some life to the party with his quips and comments. He has the best banter with Shadowheart and Toad The Druid guy is awful. He’s boring and storybound at first, but then he starts churning out sexual commentary from the moment he gets comfortable. His banter with other characters and idle comments are not worth sacrificing a party slow for. If you want to use a Druid, you get a better option later in the game My favorite party overall is Shadowheart, Gale, and either Toad/Astarion. They have the least offensive writing and the best banter
>>543884032True, that thing is not a girl
babygirl her tiny bootshis tiny neckstomp stomp stomp snap
Astarion, paralyzed from the neck down, remaining in a wheelchair for the rest of eternity.
>>543884103thanks bro, this was also my initial impression. really feels like the game art is giving a hint on best composition with regards to companion story and depth by their position: astarion, shadowheart, orc-like girl, and gale - all in front. wyll told me about his past life - it sounded kinda boring and generic, just like a typical spoiled rich kid going against his rich and powerful father. and even that was very limited so far.
>>543885267For a Shadowheart origin I would use Toad, use Gale(god romance path), and use Astarion for my final slot. Later when I unlock the final 2 companions, I would drop Toad/Astarion in that order until the 2 newer companion stories are concluded. I’m not exaggerating with Wyll. You lose nothing funny, interesting, or important by keeping him permanently benched. In reality, you’re gaining everything you would have missed if you did choose to keep him as a companion. Karlach is ironically the best IF Wyll is a companion, and just a dumb comic relief if by herself. She sucks, I would never use her, but she isn’t Wyll levels of bad. I would rather not play the game than play with Wyll in my party. With Karlach I can at least toy with martial builds, which I have done a few times
>>543877102Archmages are around level 20, Gale is a chosen of Mystra and he can actually succeed at becoming a god.
Pushing Astarion’s wheelchair to face the corner and leaving him like that for days at a time
Post dead waifus
>>543885267>astarion, shadowheart, orc-like girl, and galeCanon party
>>543887458He can regenerate body parts.
>>543886075>Shadowheart origin>god romance pathTo Selune and Shar:Take that, dumb bitches, I am a goddess now!
>>543889775A minor one that doesn't make her their equal.
>>543890312Her evil ending has her followers eating sharrans and selunites, and they do nothing about it.
>>543884032Minthara the >spicy senorita (who wanted to annihilate and rape all the redskins)is still #1 for me.
>>543890861She was brainwashed. Her real personality is dumb evil bitch but pragmatic and based.
Mintharafags calling Shadowheart a whore
Is fucking Emperor gay?
>>543892090No, if you play as Lae'zel, you fix him.
>>543892251What's different when you play as Frog?
>>543892350She becomes a hypocrite.
>>543892350You fix him step by step. Today he fucks a very ugly woman who is almost a man. Tomorrow he'll choose a real girl.
>>543892090only if you play as a male tav
>>543893025>heNo! Mind flayers are non-binary!
>>543893160emperor identifies as male
Is fucking Dream Visitor Gay?
>>543892021>right in front of her parentsbrutalreminds me how you can make out with gale right in front of tara
>>543894036>can't romance Tara as GaleWhy :(
>>543893025The emperor shows you a scene of him making the former duke a braindead thrall of course people betray him.
>>543894036And Wyll and his father... Does he react? No one romanced Wyll so we'll never know.
>>543894417>Wyll is the least popular companion in BG3>Jacob is the least popular companion in Mass EffectAre RPG players racist?
what does ulder think of wyll's gay ass dance moves?
>>543894331Good. He is strong and he will protect me from the baddies!
>>543894605Both characters are the most bland and boring in their games
>>543894605>mass effect is full of sexy aliens>expecting anyone to go the for the random black guy that looks like kanye
>>543894417imagine ravenguard seeing karlach manhandling wyll
>baudelaire is a bad wr-
muah
If the player picked the warlock class Mizora should've been in a pact with you and not Wyll
>>543894962>>543894885Remember that Jacob is the only character in the game that cheats on you.
>>543895461yeah finding a way to sign a pact to respec into a warlock would have been cool, you got the archfey pact with ethel and the fairy, the fiend pact with mizora & raphael, the great old one with the elder brain or some random old one that you don't have to show and you could stumble on a magic sword for the hexblade
>>543895473He cheats in the sequel where he's not even in the party
Emmeline when Shadowheart is in poly relationship with Astarion and Halsin:My girl chose two elven freaks... She's just like me. I am so proud of her.
What is blud going on about?
>>543895971>>543895971>>543895971
>>543895793Not funny
