Are Hoodlums men or monsters?

We died. WE FUCKING DIED!

>>543620305
Yes.

>>543621646
>Thou art dead.

Anyone excited for VIIR? I am excited for the voices and graphics, but don't care for the UI, puppets, DoF, kiddification, or dumbing down of the gameplay even further. I was wrong about the FFT voice acting and found it really enjoyable, so here's to hoping DQVIIR voices are half decent.

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>>543622526
>or dumbing down of the gameplay even further

>>543622917
They got rid of the puzzles to unlock the saint equipment, so they'll probably streamline it even more.

>>543622917
The battles were steamrolled as soon as Maribel learned Boom as well and could nuke all the enemies on 3DS.

>>543622526
Not really, not after they were confirmed to be removing entire storylines from the game. Filler or no, they were still part of the overall DQ7 experience, and they could have easily moved them to the optional pile instead of just removing them outright.

>>543623110
>>543623424
sounds like autistic bullshit on par with the guy screeching about healing on level ups

>>543625468
I agree with the autist, if you get free MP recovery, there's no point in interacting with inns, recovery items, or prayer rings.

>>543623110
3DS already did that
>>543623424
Same thing happens in PS1 once you get access to classes.

>>543625732
except that only happens like once a dungeon or something, unless you somehow get level ups every few battles or something? How does that stop you from having to interact with inns, recovery items or prayer rings? (the latter two being so sparse and so unreliable i bet most don't interact with them anyway)
Besides, in my experience what really stops that is simply the numbers being tweaked specifically towards never needing to do that, not "free" heals. Like for example i'm playing the newest rune factory game and even on hard mode you basically never need to heal simply cause the numbers (damage received, enemies' health) are too low: installing a mode that multiplies those numbers suddenly makes the game more engaging in that sense (i'm using one that multiplies both by 4 times, and it's still not that hard).
Like take dark souls for example: its perceived "difficulty" is all down to enemies potentially killing you in a few hits no matter what, even though the games still gives you lots of healing opportunities, and dare i say the equivalent of free heals on level up by getting to bonfires that heal you and refill all your items, but the point is that the battle damage is skewed towards actually mattering and actually making you go "i need to use this and that". The game eventually leaving you without juice when you're 3/4 in a dungeon is just padding to make you backtrack and double the play time, cause otherwise you'd be done with the game "too quickly" (and even then, backtracking and then getting back also means you risk overlevelling, unless you autistically flee from fights)

tldr no

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Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows more about how this hidden slime event works. Can I find them just anywhere I look or are they only in towns, only in fields, etc? Are they different for every player or is there some kind of list to look up?

>>543632402
>Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.
that's nice but they don't want me to play it so i won't
t. yuro

>>543629821
NTA but I had many moments in my draconian playthrough of 3HD where I'd be running low on MP on my healer(s), then they'd level up and I wouldn't have to worry anymore, or I would see that they're close to a level and I can just grind 3 more fights instead of evacing.

The free healing is only really frequent during the absolute early game which already tends to be face rollingly easy once you get boomerangs and the bang line. Around Level 20ish in HD on Draconian, exp gain slows down so much that you cant really bank on the free healing to carry you and enemies get strong enough that you have to regularly heal etc.
The real issue is that its too easy to gather resources if you're diligent in finding sparkly/secret spots to the point that only ever spend cash on specific gear and items.

>>543637026
ye and i don't see how that's bad, you saved yourself a trip back and having to redo the whole dungeon again by managing your resources. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say "yeah i would've liked having to backtrack instead!".
Like i do get stuff like evac being 0 mp, that makes no sense, or them gradually removing the no zoom indoors thing (which is more about atmosphere than pure gameplay stuff), but the rest is just a good thing

>trailer video
>Moonbroke did nothing but spam Insulatle and Magic Barrier on bosses

>>543638352
She's a pure mage she has a lot more than that

>>543638595
Its just funny because you see Cannock-kun using Kasizz, Kazap, Zap and Kazing so he was the MVP vs Basusu.

>>543638595
So I guess to review from last thread on how the DQ2 gang will get DQ3's skills and spells doled out:
>Midenhall - All Warrior, with some Martial Artist skills for good measure
>Prince Cannock - Dabbles between everything, but excels at nothing. Has the requisite Zap spells in place of no-magic Midenhall
>Moonbrook - Full Sage, period, but picks up some Monster Master skills owing to her canine curse
>Princess Cannock - Gets all the weird and funny skills and spells that don't fit the others and is mainly support, but she's also the semi-Gadabout who potentially wastes turns being useless.
Sounds about right?

>>543644859
Hero - Cannock M
Warrior - Midenhall
Martial Artist - Midenhall
Priest - Cannock M/Moonbrooke
Mage - Cannock M and F/Moonbrooke
Thief - Midenhall/Moonbrooke/Cannock F
Gadabout - Cannock F
Merchant - ???
Monster Masher - Moonbrooke

>>543645993
I figure Merchant will get its skills split between the Cannocks and Moonbrooke.

Midenhall is a bit of an oddball not having any magic but I guess Ortega didn't have any either.

>>543647306
Ortega is throwing Fullheals on himself during his fight with the King Hydra (until his MP runs out), plus he's shooting off Frizzes against Garboyle in the intro. Even he wasn't a no-magic brick.

>>543649546
In the remake he only uses melee attacks in every fight scene

>>543625468
>>543637469
NTA but I think this is genuine difference in opinion. I like being crunched for resources. Healing on level up can tip things to be a bit too easy. I also would have preferred to have the puzzles. However I'm hopeful regarding 7R. Seems like the combat is modeled on XI which had good battles. I'm interested in the multiclassing. 7 3DS' class system did not work for me. I liked the PS1 version more but it's a bit too simple ultimately.

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>>543647306
I choose to believe he CAN use magic, he just thinks magic is gay shit for pussies and tells everyone he has 0MP.

>>543651053
He has MP now in the remake but it's only used on melee abilities

"muscle points"

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No dying.

>>543622526
It sucks that it can't be perfect, but I am still fairly excited for it.
I'm actually glad there's no class costumes, a lot of them were lame imo.

Why am I more excited for 2HD than 1?

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>>543668852
because 2 is the better game?

>>543669345
kek, non-sensical shit list

>>543668852
Because even with the extensions to the story, DQ1 is still ultimately going to be the short transitional episode between 3 and 2.

>>543671946
>DQ3 sets up Hargon
>DQ1 has Dragonlord
>DQ2 makes the team deal with the true threat

>>543672902
It's why I still intend to at least play DQ1 first. The way it's structured in the trilogy as the simplest plot of the three, jumping to that after 3 makes 1 feel meaningless.

>>543674671
Horii remade them in the order of 3/1/2 on purpose. You cant assume that DQ1 will be the same Hero beats the Dragonlord and saves the Princess story anymore.

Speaking to Game*Spark (translated by Automaton Media), Dragon Quest 7 Reimagined producer Takeshi Ichikawa explained why the 2000 RPG skipped the remake queue, saying that "we felt that the game’s unique atmosphere and tone would resonate especially well with players today."

Ichikawa elaborated, "When it first came out, 7 was often said to have more dark and sorrowful episodes compared to other entries in the series. But nowadays, players are much more accustomed to games with darker stories." And that thanks to that the producer thinks that through this new version, modern players will be able to feel 7’s story and the emotions of the characters even more deeply.”

>>543677491
Honestly very weird that they removed parts of it when they think its a game that'll resonate with people better today than it did in the past. Especially when 100+ hours is like the expected length for RPGs and stuff now.

>>543679086
>100+ hour rpgs are considered the norm
No. Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.
7 has always been a contentious game, to the point that even people like Hino from Level 5 complained about it to Horii.

>>543680348
>Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.
DQ11 was just as long as 7 though, both games took me 120 hours, hell act 3 bumped 11 up to 160 hours.
Feels like every new RPG I play is 100 hours minimum, even things outside the genre like the new Zeldas have well over 100 hours of content, games on average are long as fuck nowadays.

>>543681132
>games on average are long as fuck nowadays.
If only, anon...

>>543681132
Games these days are generally shorter

>>543669345
9 and 10 belong in the shit tier and 5 belongs in S

>>543689170
EAT THE LEAF CANNYCOCK

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>>543669345
Might as well post my own. B tier could really go in just about any order, but the rest are in order.

>>543681132
yeah because you play them as expected. You take your time, you do everything (or most things) there is to do and most importantly you don't look up guides online. In short you're based and other people that think games are shorter nowadays are retarded because it's objectively false

>>543671946
DQ1 is more important than DQ2 because Gwaelin is a cutie pie. :)

>>543689170
Not the crab stance...

>>543681132
DQ11 is almost 10 years old. Its hardly representative of a "modern game".

>>543681132
New Digimon game averages around 40-50 hours. And that's doing all the side content.
And part of me does wish it was a bit longer to fully get use out of some things in it.

>>543699459
Well Metaphor and Persona 3 Reload were last year and both took me over 100 hours to finish.
Elden Ring isn't that old and is over 100 hours.

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8 days until I+II remake
Are you feeling it now, mr krabs?

>>543700721
I feel my hair falling out.

Redpill me on the DQ2 3DS remake.
I have seen people claim it is the best Monsters game.

1R should still be pretty short right?

>>543704490
It will be longer than the original

>>543704490
Short in like 20 hrs?

MIDhall
CanCOCK
MoonBARK

Cant wait to see all the Elves in the upcoming DQ games!

Frizz>Boom>Zap>Crack>Zam>Whoosh>Sisz

Bap>Shink>Pow>Blorp>Zoot

>>543714804
A-anon I the E-elves t-they...

>>543714804
They're not elves they're fairies

>Beat Zoma
How's the postgame?

>>543716869
Considered Nintendo Hard in some aspects.

>>543716869
Good in some ways, fucking awful in other ways.

>>543716869
If you're on draconian I hope you abused the reclass stat boosts about five times before using any seeds on your party or you're gonna be in for a very grindy time.

>>543703229
>>543703229
>>543703229
please respond

>>543720643
There's no DQ2 3DS remake, the first ever remake of DQ2 is coming out in a week.

>>543703229
>>543721447
Ah shit I mean DQ2M
EMM

>>543721447
>the first ever remake of DQ2
Anon...

>>543721516
or DQM2
fuck me Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake. Is it actually the best Monsters game?

>>543721643
SNES version only came out in Japan unless you count that mobile abomination.

>>543722417
Well, I don't only count versions that got overseas releases or we'd be talking about 5 and 6 first coming out long after 7.

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>>543722417
Okay but

I hope the helpful platypunk from Kenshin makes a cameo in the 1 remaster.

Post breakfast bump.

Only a week to go lads

>>543730512
>no, we will NOT use Toriyama art, ever!
what was wrong with them

>>543752704
In the 80s they thought people in the west didn't like anime art or something

>>543752704
DBZ hadn't reached popularity in the West yet, so the attitude was still very much "anime = unmarketable".

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>>543741571
Post breakfast bump...

>>543721803
im biased towards dqm1, but i have yet to play the 3ds remakes for either

Do you get anything for having both HD Remakes on one console?

https://youtu.be/_8JyNzeTPpc?si=nRZw2t2OdNQgJq86
DQ2 bros...

>>543774447
Did we know about the succubat?

>>543776496
Didnt they debut in 11?

>>543776626
Yeah, but so did the Iron Maiden and I already knew the remake had one of those.

New 1 & 2 story trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9ftV2fsHM

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>>543779438
Hargon WILL have friends!

>>543781516
Story continues past Malroth into the Erdrea/DQ3 world?

>>543781516
that text shows up for both 1 and 2
builders CHADS rise up

>>543784934
cutebrooke

>>543784934
>Prince of Cannock is the pack mule

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>>543785058

Moonbrooke curling up on the floor
Moonbrooke gnawing on bones
Moonbrooke yapping at and chasing after squirrels

>>543784934
nice reference

[good news] Nintendo has taken my money for my pre-order

Hargon is OUR friend.

>>543744819
I'm starting to feel it

>>543782815
it's caravan hearts' turn

>>543786213
At least his coffin has plenty of item capacity.

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>>543782815
would be cool if they add something from those as secret bosses or something, like pic related

>>543818163
>A single shitty castle literally named "Half The World"
Should've read the fine print.

>The reward for having both games on the same console/steam are some dog/cat costumes
Ehhhhh, I'm not feeling having DQ1/2/3 on Steam desu.

>>543820456
and there's also gonna be save bonuses from and to 1+2 and vii reimagined

>>543820607
I want to play DQ7 Reimagined on a big tv screen not on a computer/laptop. I dont see the point in buying a Steamdeck either.

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I am once again asking if DQM2 for the 3DS is truly the best Monsters game or not

>>543820932
you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right? Or alternatively doing what i do: use my hacked switch (but you can use any other hardware really, and there's plenty of choice of software too) to stream from my pc and then use the dock to hook my switch to the big tv. Visual quality is almost perfect (ironically my pc is the bottleneck i discovered, and only for really heavy games) and lag is only a problem for games that require very precise, frame perfect button presses, everything else can be played just fine. And even then it's nothing that really affects DQ games in any case
but anyway i don't want to get into some retarded discussion about what's ultimately personal preference, obviously you do you, hell the only real reason i usually play on pc is because of mods and the eventual piracy and that's it, like my pc's resolution is 1080p still cause i actually think i don't need any more than that

>>543822104
>you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right?
I tried that once and the output was a very low-quality and unresponsive mess.

>>543822798
heavily depends on what you did, what you used etc
>ok but consoles are just plug and play ez
i know, which is why i'm not saying anyone is wrong for using them, especially since i have and use them myself. My only point is that pc gaming can be had in a "living room tv + couch" way too, obviously not out of the box though

>>543822104
>Do you know
Yes, I do know.
>Do I want to put in the effort instead of something that works out of the box
No.

PC's entire niche is primarily mods and I doubt DQ7 is getting any mods worth a damn.

DQ characters who would be PC gamers

>>543787959
Moonbrooke barking all night at the moon

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>>543828579

What do you guys think about Mature Quest? that game is huge and feels like a love letter to the Famicom games.

>>543821406
Best DQM is the first one

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>mfw turned on my switch to play donkey kong and 1+2 appeared in my games list
I'm feeling it now, Spongeboy Me Bob

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7 days until I+II remake.
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?

>>543833829
Excellent

I think I'm actually pretty excited for II because I haven't played it yet and it just seems more mysterious to me. Probably because it's an early installment in the series and those tend to be weird (in a good way).

>Anon casts Morebump

I'm gonna cast that on Gwaelin

>Hey King is it cool if I take your daughter to an uncharted continent and start making babies to populate the world with my glorious hero seed

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Continuing the heroic bloodline is a sacred duty.

>>543857825
Ew, is that the hero’s mum? Suddenly I don’t feel as bad for her.

>>543831726
It’s the most impressive fan game I’ve ever played.
The fetishes weren’t my cup of tea but I wasn’t playing it for the porn.
Shame we never got a sequel, though I remember hearing the dev felt he accomplished everything he set out to do and thought a sequel was unnecessary.

>>543861432
I was surprised I could enjoy a mostly 8-bit looking game. The squeaks and emotes were pretty cute, but the game got too tedious and then easy once you out leveled the mobs.
I wasn't a fan of the corruption or cheating ending.

The jackpot subquest is fucking retarded even with the bunny girl trick and whoever thought of it deserves to die. I hate casinos in JRPGs so fucking much unless it's a game you can actually play like poker.

>>543863375
Just keep betting full chips on 12 and 14 and you'll eventually get it.

>>543863580
I already did it 30 times and even if I won a couple I haven't gotten a single jackpot.

>>543863845
You're more likely to win if you bet on everything.

>>543864046
That still doesn't guarantee jackpot.

>>543864248
Never said it was. But a higher win rate means greater chances to jackpot. That's pretty simple logic.

>>543863845
On my last playthrough of XI I hit the jackpot on my very first roulette spin it's random.

>>543863845
>30 times
Those are baby numbers, you'll probably hit it after 200 times.

https://www.rpgsite.net/news/18774-dragon-quest-i-ii-hd-2d-remake-screenshots-introduce-each-game-new-gameplay-features
>Cannock-chan joins early on as a guest and then leaves after her brother joins

>>543883791
She basically a little helper while Midenhall is solo since he don't have any magic to cure himself.

>>543883791
>>543887397
>Prince Cannock gets cursed by Hargon at Beran like in past remakes
>Gotta get an Ygg leaf to cure him, but instead of just one single tree tile on a tiny island, Yggdrasil is now a full dungeon
>Three Scions must be present to enter the tree (like the Wind Tower), so Princess Cannock has to be picked up again
>After getting the leaf and curing her brother, she stays on the party permanently
Makes the most sense to me.

So there was a video of the scions fighting a lumpy mage and Moonbroke was using Monster Pile On. If she happens to be the one who learns Wild Side and the Duplic Hat still exists, she might be the strongest dps in the game.

>>543893051
Possible, as far as the original DQ2 campaign goes, but odds are there's going to be more challenges after Malroth that'll be balanced against it.

Has anybody here played the DQ32 hack? The one that remakes DQ2 in the engine of the DQ3 remake for Super Famicom? I think that's somewhere in the OP's pastebin link for mods.

>>543893051
Won't be as broken as DQ3 with its 3x monster pile-on + wildside

>>543894694
Wild Side is like the 5th best attack in 3HD.
The meme is like Falcon Blade Persecutter > Cutting Edge > Call to Arms/Quadra Cast Weakness > Pile On (Full Power)

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She's strong!

Why do they speak in olde English in I but not in II?

>>543912108
They're a couple hundred years apart, right? Surely the localizers would have died by then.

>>543912108
Its a Tantagel dialect

>>543920251
Uh-huh, and you call this spell Thordain when it's clearly spoken as Kazapple.

NSP when

>>543928434
5 hours

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Will Mashima replace Toriyama as DQ character designer?

>>543935159
depends, how are his monsters and machines? I only know him from being discount Oda

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>>543935650
I don't know, I'm not a Fairy Tail fan, but he did do a Monster Hunter manga. All his characters look like they're from a template, but I guess the same could be said for Toriyama.

How enjoyable is the experience of emulating DS ports of DQ? Like DQV? Thinking of giving it a go, but I'm kinda weirded out by the fact that there are two screens...

>>543937706
It's totally fine, I've played through them all like that. You get used to the stacked screens pretty quickly, and they only use the touch function for minor minigames so you don't have to worry about that.

>>543937706
pretty enjoyable given most emulators will let you increase the internal resolution (so that 3D stuff looks better). The two screens are more of a single long screen usually, but a few emulators let you customize that so that you can position them however you want, and as for using the touch screen you use the mouse or whatever else can work (like if you're using a device with a touch screen)
take a look at this for all the info you might need https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_DS_emulators

>>543938984
>>543939028
Thank you! And was hazily aware that they can be repositioned and such. Glad to know its good :)

Also didn't know that you could use the mouse like the stylus :o

>>543940680
Think about it, Anon. How else would you do touch input when emulating a touch screen device? Not like you can touch your monitor.

>>543942665
I've seen hold trigger + move right stick

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>halo 1 remake (again) before dragon quest 12
>halo on playstation before dragon quest 12

Dragon quest 12 was 1+2 all along

>>543942665
Just thought it would be unusable, especially when you mainly use a controller :p

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>>543908605
Why's the text box and font look different than mine?

>>543943250
Masterpieces take time

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rejection...