JOHN PORK is calling>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>543548894
>get into match>lane partner is a first timer wraith player>I am laning against a cheating vindicta auto aim and wallhacks>second match the wraith player is on the other team laning against me and he also gets destroyedI feel sorry for that dude.
>>543651193just as yoshi intended
Before the game fully releases, I really want them to rework weapons. It's a core aspect of the game but I don't think there is enough variety in them right now and it really kills variety and build potential when everyone that wants to build gun is just stacking attack speed and that's it, with the only exception being characters that also build melee (i.e. billy, abrams, drifter)
If you're using a mod that makes things more "convenient" or "easy", you're cheating.Simple as, this slippery slope was seen in WOW.
Calico nerfs tomorrow?
>>543651193Deserved for playing wraith honestly, if you aren't confident in your farming tech/surviving the early game then don't bother.
Invite me broshttps://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199044906158/
>>543652108Its mostly because the attack speed also give gun damage from orange investment. They could split the orange investment rewards to 50:50 dmg:fire rate but that might have some unintentional side effects
>>543653472You need to be friends to be invited by the way
>>543652364and if you're using mods to change models or turn your farm into hatsune miku, you're a troon
>>543652108There are burst weapons like paradox, where attack speed is literally useless.
I love playing hybrid gundicta
>c*lico abusers are frogposters as wellmakes a lot of sense, actually.
>>543655120We’re on a videogame board, discussing what pretty much amounts to digital toys. You’re the same as him - maybe even worse. You lack self-awareness.
>>543655448Woah dude...*hits bong*like...We're all just monkeys floating on a rock in space bro....
>>543655607Put me in the fukken screencap
i miss the inhouse. pubs have been suifuel
>play 7>#1 in souls>get kills too>during teamfights I feel useless, my gun barely tickles them while my team wrecks their faces>#1 damage to players and objectives>#1 mvp in statlocker>still feel like I did literally nothing
Cancer team lineup.
>>543647297kudzustoneair bobm
>>543647297your kudzu has inherent 35% slow, this makes it about 60%. but still pure spirit ivy builds fucking suck inherently
>>543657167replace abrahams with infernus and vinny with kelvin and you got the most unethical teamcomp
>>543649403billy is better as a gun character, then you only light melee to get ammo
>>543656865check damage dealt by type, you probably did loads of ult damage
CSGO is mainly an EU game, Valorant US but bay area asoids, fighting games are brownoids. What's the main racial makeup of Deadlockers?
>>543656765they really need to remove all their fancy shit and just make it win loss with equal number losses and gainsYoshi thinks he’s so smart doing all the fancy matchmaking work when it’s just dog ass all around
>>543657378my ult damage was extremely low>>543657429Poccиянe
>>543657167Well this was awful. Not only do I not know how to play Lash, but my team was made out of cowards who didn't want to push objectives.
>>543657429russians and american boomers
>>543655172I love playing spirit I love throwing stanky alchemical flasks everywhere
>>543657167>no fern>no paige>no kelvinCould be so much worse
>>543657595if your playstyle is to hard push, play someone else
>>543657770It's not, usually, but if no one is doing it, then someone has to.
>>543657927>he can't push as Lashspiderman into lanejump unto creepsfuck offsure you're not gonna melt walkers but you're a decent lane janny with your mobility and AoE
>>543657429I hope NA steps the fuck up on Deadlock and stays consistent for once. It's been looking good so far but the game is in its infancy still competitively. I want kino EU vs NA rivalry in multi-million $$$ tournaments. Even better if EU has top tier teams with only players from the same country. t. EU
>>543657429Entirely slavGODS, but will become sinoCHADS once public beta releases
>>543658125usually in comp games one region reaches the critical mass first and advances so far ahead of everyone else that it's realistically impossible to catch upsee: Starcraft, CS, etc.
Drifter is top tier and has one of the best ults in the game.Dynamo is an ult bot and not very good.
>>543658062>spiderman into lane>jump unto creeps>fuck offThis what I usually do. But because my team was busy doing god knows what, I had to go kill a walker, which I succeeded in. Wait for it to stomp, grapple-stomp-cold front-flog, and then backwards jump dash out.
>>543658125American ego is too big to be competitive.t. NA
I SHOULD WIN EVERY TIME ME ME ME ME WHY OH WHY DOES YOSHI HATE ME SO MUCH REEEEEEEEEE
>>543658919this but unironicallyI am the protagonist
When the team so shit you can't even carry.I was actually 1v9 in every fight.If I didn't get chat restricted because of snowflake amerimutt trannies spam reporting me, I could at least shotcall.This bebop was and is not a human.He regularly pulled me away from 1hp kills, never ever landed a hook on an enemy and when he did it was calico who just oneshot him.By the end of the game he had less than 80 bomb stacks. 34k in a 45 minute game.Every fucking fight I'd be on the front lines, while my team would just sit back and farm minions, inches away from that very fight.I'm starting to lose my fucking mind.Not ONE loss in my last 10 felt deserved. Not one. In every one of my losing matches I am the carry, always the best from the team and sometimes from the game. But it doesn't matter.Troglodytes with no map or macro knowledge, and basically paraplegic when it comes to fighting and micro, always get stuck with me, and there's just nothing I can fucking do.Paige, despite her shit souls and damage, was the only human on my team, recognizing that if we ever wanted to win, she had to shield and suck me off all lategame, which she did, but it wasn't enough.FUckign clanker hero. I bet the player was a clanker too. No human could play this fucking awful.
>>543657595>0 objective damagehow is that fucking possiblehowthese players should be reportable and it should result in an auto-low prio queue untill they get the fucking message0??!?!?!?!?!?literally just grazing against a guardian or a walker will result in damage, this is literally impossible if you have even basic knowledge of the gamegetting players like this in my games makes me want to an hero
just had this bebop game where i trolled the fuck out of some spergy victor tryhardlmao bet he's so fucking mad rn
>>543659271i'm sorry for you anon
>>543659271victor is for suffering
Whenever I beat a Paige in lane I gaslight them into thinking they lost because they're too passive in the hopes that in their next game they play too aggressively and feed.
>>543659271honestly - just looking at the enemy team comp, the game was over before it began
>>543659271>the snowflake american trannies won't let me spam the n-word in chatThe funny thing is this poster is probably american
Tips for doing damage as Lash? With max boons and all those items, his stomp does only 230 damage. This is nothing lategame.>>543658919I'm fine with losing, I just don't want to be miserable while I'm at it. I've had games where I lost, but I was satisfied because it felt fair. But look at this shit: >>543657595. 0 objective damage on Talon and Drifer, less than a thousand on 2 other team mates. Sure, I'm not good at this game, but that only means that I should be matched with people are about the same way.
soloQ games have been fucking awful today, nothing but shameless ricers and voyeurs into 50 minute losses. Got a win playing Abrams by being the IGL but holy fuck does it suck microing everyones macro because they don't fucking react or look at the map or respond to things happening right next to them (literally).
>>543657167teamcomp built to lose in 20 minutes
Did an ivy with mystic slow, I barely saw a diff. Bomb ivy is still fun
>>543660063Wait, I forgot that he has fucking scaling. Jesus Christ, never mind.
>>543660164I think morning queues are just cursed. I've been having the exact same experience trying a new hero, I have to be the lane janny because teammates let two enemy minion waves stack for the sake of jungling, so I can't do the shit I want to do. You'd think I'd get fed, which is partially true, but so does the enemy that can freely over-extend because my teammates love getting picked off or are never ever found in the right place at the right time.
Now that doing melee attacks slows down reloading, Abrams should be unaffeted by that. His gun already has the special quality that it's reloaded one bullet at time so it would fit.
>>543660063I hope you're not actually using that build
>>543660747What's wrong with it? What am I missing?
>>543658273Yeah and EU is lowkey broken in that regard. Highest concentration of gamers in the world. I think this simple metric tells a lot :>USA is 9.8m square km>Population 340m (+ 41m for Canada)>Europe is 6.2m square km (+ 3.9m European Russia)>Population 630m (+ 110m in European Russia)If any game is popular here then the practice pool is just crazy and people can easily travel to on person event. Even without much money to spare travel by train and even car between countries is manageable. Also if Fins happen to channel their 'tism into this game the rest of the world is simply fucking cooked. >>543658817History has indeed proven that but let's hope for the best.
>>543660830NTA but echo shard and arctic blast cannot possibly be worth the 6k, mystic reverb is your number 1 damage item (imbued on the ground strike) and spirit burn is your 3rd highest damage but best utility
>>543660327I had a dynamo save his ult until at least three people on our team died, majestic leap, no warpstone, nothing. He riced for 50 minutes and didn't ult before at least two died everyfight and never used it to just get two important picks. I got so mad I told him to never queue a support again and just play haze, infernus, or mina if you aren't going to be a team player.
>>543660743>Now that doing melee attacks slows down reloading, Abrams should be unaffeted by that. His gun already has the special quality that it's reloaded one bullet at time so it would fit.Billy already has this
what if they added characters where you didn't need to be a sweaty aim-tard so humans could play the game?
>>543661165>echo shard cannot possibly be worth the 6kBut my main source of damage is Ground Stomp.
>>543660003The only one that gave me trouble was shiv.Fucker just does too much damage and applies antiheal too easy, even when purging his knives. Doesn't die either...Ivy was just annoying and unkillable, but never a threat. Holliday was a joke.I could easily deal with calico and yamato thanks to timing ethereal shift properly, so they weren't a problem either.Haze was a problem until I got plated, and thankfully she didnt buy armor piercing, but she still did a shitton.Maybe my team would've had a problem, but that wouldn't matter. All they needed to do was play like humans and have the macro skills of a toddler and I could've carried every fight frontline/damage wise. Alas, that was too much to ask.>>543660061I'm European, and thankfully not the russian kind.No one used vc, so I'm not sure if I was playing with vladims, but seven had a suspiciously third world name.I digress. No. I got restricted because in a game a while back I noticed the 1/14 wraith on my team had the most tranny name and tranny pfp, barring the flag, imaginable and kept flaming me (carrying yet again) because I let her die on lane when she was diving walker 4 minutes in.I said something to the affect of "wraith you're a tranny, son, aren't you" which shut her up but roused 3 others who, with distinctly american accents and the "fag pretending to be a woman" voices, attacked and immediately reported me. Oh well.Maybe screaming into a well is better than getting permabanned for calling this bebop a racial slur.>>543659665True, but the contract specifically said I could turn the aura off whenever I wanted.Can't do that with these troglodyte, draining teammates.>>543659604Cheers.
QUICK WHAT TO I BUILD TO COUNTER INFERNUS
>>543661812debuff remover
>>543660743>Now that doing melee attacks slows down reloadingit always did?
>>543661812Listen carefully:You go to the shop, go to health items, then press alt f4 because you can't actually counter infernus.You got unlucky and stuck in a game against a hero that a lab-rat being rewarded with cheese could pull off playing optimally. Too bad.
I know this is a pipe dream, but if Valve worked some real-life sorcery to bring deadlock to console it would be a truly huge industry shifter
>>543662062what if they worked some real-life sorcery and made deadlock fun, would that change the landscape
>>543661857Gtfo glowie-fernus kunAbsolutely retarded suggestion40 sec cooldown against a passive that is instantly reapplied and a debuff that has 4 charges? might as well burn the 3200the ONLY time this is useful is when you're running away and burning, since it shortens it and you can remove itotherwise he'll just keep reapplying it and it will do fuck all in actual fights
>>543662062It wouldn't be impossible but valve hates console update limitations
>>543661812you shoot at him
>>543661243billy abrams victor calico paige geist
>>543651069Halloween update tomorrow or NEXT week?I don't believe the freaks that say we won't get something, or that there will be a big January update (Valve takes off half the month)
>>543662062it's already on console, it's on the steam deck :)
>Console tards on my teamState mandated loss
>>543662467If its not tomorrow im crashing out in q
the problem with Infernus is that his skills are just overloadedsomething needs to be cut
>>543662062Multiplat and competitive go together like oil and butter.
>>543659271>Victor against ShivI'm impressed you did that well, Shiv fucks me over so hard as Victor because of his stupid ult
>>543662467>>543662950last year it was literally dropped ON Halloween (which was a thursday), so I'd say it's likely it drops on the 30th as well.But tomorrow would be based
>>543663248Late Halloween updates are so fucking gay, release them like 2 weeks in advance.
is it just a given that heroes with spirit damage that procs on bullet hits will be good?
>>543657429I learned the other day that the highest amount of dota players are russians who make up 30%, then after that it's chinese players who make up 16-19%
>>543663058Im confusedOil and butter combine very well together? I cook with olive oil and butter in the same pan pretty frequentlyUnless you're trying to say these things go well together, but I doubt that considering you're a 4chan user in a MOBA general
>>543663231Yeah... I had to buy refresher just because of him.Regularly executed me at 1/3rd of my health. Genuinely a nightmarish matchup.
>>543663248Last year was just some funny nonsense that they cobbled together in like a week or something. We are expecting at least some content this year so a last minute update would be out of the place.Weeks without a balance patch for obvious outliers (Victor/Eshift, Paradox, Kelvin, etc.) supports this theory. They might be saving them for a bigger update.
>>543662273end game before he is farmed.
you think yoshi put in a hidden mechanic if it detects mods it matches someone with the worst people?
ivy is so broken in this patch
>>543661812Plated Armor + Juggernaut
>lane phase ends>entire team meanders, nobody thinks about urn, nobody prioritizes sinners, nobody keeping waves in constant check, nobody roaming to aid fights, just 5 meandering retardswhen it happens I genuinely just accept the loss. if I have to chew all the food for 5 hungry dipshits i'm not going to bother
>>543664343yeah I really do think he did that
i'm somewhat tired of playing pocket, would mina be a good replacement for his role in my roster?
every game since the readjustment has been painful
>>543664668people have been so brainwashed into split pushing that they never roam or group up for team fights its so frustrating
>>543664343I got shitty teammates before I became a Mina-Panty connoisseur.
>>543664751mina requires way less braincells
>>543665616yoshi can telepathically read bad think thoughts about his game
>>543664751yeah, I think she scales a bit better and requires more aim.
>>543664751take the black woman of originality pill
at first I only used eshift on victor for obvious reasons, but this shit is even OP on shiv with tpulse and cdrWith all the niggas crying about it, I hope it doesn’t receive changes because it’s actually a good 6.4k item active
>>543664751Become Calicopill'd
>>543666953E Shift will at most get a slight cooldown nerf or maybe they'll nerf the "after buff".
>>543664751Im a fellow pocket bro lemme give some suggestions>yamato>shiv>calico>viscous>mina
>>543663829Tomorrow update bros........ GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY
>>543669760oh and add holliday if youre interested in learning pick
>"ascendant" teammate>dies 10 times>"WHY NO ONE HELPING ME BLYAT">haze rages and afk farmsevening deadlock is pure hell
>>543671057Just play Victor, Billy, Wraith, or Infernus and 1v11.
>>543671057well, why didnt you help a brother out
>>543661812plated armor, disarming hex, CC fiesta, killing him before he kills youanyone telling you to get debuff remover does not actually play the game, that item is terrible
>Doing well against Haze + Infernus lane>Up three kills and 2k souls>Look at green lane>Cassidy 0/8>Enemy Abrams 12/1
>>543672025Even when you finally win, you still lose
>>543662273debuff remover is for the napalm more than the burn but it's still dogshitthe best way to play against nigfernus is like against any other carry: CC rape him to death on 1v3+'sor just take objectives and avoid fighting him if unnecessary
what are you meant to build vs infernus when he gets fed?
>>543672213plated armor, spirit resistances.
>>543672297desu you should always be building that in general unless the enemy team somehow lacks any and all bullet carries.
>>543672415if they don't have any on-hit effects plated armor gives less EHP than just picking up bullet resist
>>543672213the gods honest way to deal with fed carries is your team macros lane control hard. 1 on each lane, 3 playing to roam and farm. carry can't do anything because anybody he jumps will have an escape route or a friend nearbyof course shitters are shitters so you end up having to 1v1 a carry who is more than happy to run into your mapside because nobody else is around, so what you end up doing is basically playing like an uber pussy and hitting boxes until you can afford eshift, plated or curse
>>543671057as long as balticum yugoslavs exist, assfaggots will never ever be enjoyable
why can billy solo 1vs1 tower at 10mins?
>>543673267you fed him cuz you suck
>>543673267because you didn't clear wave that's it that's literally itnobody can 1v1 tower without wave before minute 10shitters think they have to shoot the enemy heroesstopshoot the minionsthat's itthat's literally all you have to doclear the wavebefore it reaches your walker
>>543673332he had 10k and i had 15k nigga ass >>543673379shut the fuck up nigger he did
>>543673451video or no balls
>>543673451>he didlet me guess you cleared it after it reached guardian, not beforeenjoy <emissary
inhouses when
>>543673891In like an hour if you don't want to house it yourself right now
I was having the time of my life in lane with Vindicta. Little did I know... The rest of the team was feeding Shiv and Infernus.
>>543673451post match Id, bitch
>>543673538>>543673560>>543674037i can tomorrow i go fuck my gf now its late up in night
>>543673984vindicta is a decently strong laner, its what comes after that you must be afraid of
>>543672213Lost to one hard in lane so i just bought Curse + slow hex and just spammed it on him
what do i build against warden
>>543674113yeah true she goes to a different school and has big ass tiddies I get it
>>543669825damn... I even made this edit for the post and no one cared or thought it was cool... it's over....
>>543673946idk how to house em so ill wait
>>543674113what do your girlfriend and your lane guardian have in common? you like to stand back and let somebody else hit it while you watch
>>543673267Billy has crazy tower nuking potential, but you gotta be careful of the tower stun. After that if the enemy doesn't respect him he will melt its HP bar
>>543674304it's joever
>>543673267>>543673267>>543673332>>543673379>>543673451he talking about this you dumbos https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2GgGYh1e8Jk
The black woman οf Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>543674314Just talk to the match maker guy, choose custom match then create match and then just paste the code here
>>543674656SOLUTION: bigger ass for haze, bigger boobs for calico.
>>543674760Why not both?
>>543674535>45+k souls>maxed drinkgee i wonder why he can solo the guardian duurrrrr
>>543674535Billy hasn't been able to get health from objectives for two months retard
>>543674535woah... that was impressive... I feel like a fool for doubting billy now...
>>543674656haze looks asian or like a mousy white girl
>>543662062There's no way in hell this won't be multi platform.
>>543675376Haze looks like Paige under her concealment spell.
>>543675509yeah they'll port it to console then have it instantaneously be obsolete
>Mechanic change: Players can no longer cancel grabbing onto the rail before their character comes in contact with itThere, fixed
>>543675789why?? literally wtf is the problem with doing that
already asked but I'm still looking for opinions on who to play
Fun inhouse matches yesterday even though they were complete brawlfests.
>>543676019pocket, calico, shiv
i don't get it, i haven't played mina since before the patch, but why does she feel stronger now?
>>543676016because it's an insane free movement/escape option during laning that has no visual indicator and can be cancelled instantly by any decent player to avoid getting stunned while still gaining free height/distance
>4 games in a row 1-3 people have left the matchdoes no one like playing this game
>>543663413I meant guns instead of oil.
>>543676194yeah all 3 matches had a good back and forth where no team felt dominant. Guess that's what happens when those two stack faggots don't show up
>>543676194never lane me against geist again, I cannot dodge her bombs on 120 ping
>group with haze>doesnt do anything but stands around there>get ganked three times>nigga just stands there doing literally fucking nothingholy jesus the shit fuckers at this game
>>543676194>complete brawlfests.That's the point, ending them at 20m with midboss is gay and lame. I'd just soloQ for that.
>>5436768134 lanes was so good. I miss the old map so much bros...>>543676730true I was the haze and fuck you
>dotard wants the game to slow down even moreokay maybe keep shouting into the void here ig.
>>543677067map should be an oval, lanes push so goddamn fast.
>>543676314you sound like a leaguefag
>>543676194aye, all 3 matches were fun (the one with 3 minas a bit less so but at least post-lane it was enjoyable), hopefully today'll be the same.truly, inhouses remain my only source of enjoyment from this game, soloQ is just soul crushing.
>>543677070Im a cstard and I would prefer 1hr games 2bhThis end at 25m nonsense gives me blue balls
cool guys dont look at explosions...
>>543677376>tfw no way to increas bebop laser girth
>>543677376I love this game's "you are already dead" moments.
>>543677343That one felt balanced because our two minas balanced the match by constantly walking into the enemies alone and dying 2x as much as the one mina on the other team
>>543676019Ivy
>calico
>>543675789No, they should be able to dismount it instantly but they should be locked out of going to rail again for 5 seconds. That way juking while retreating is possible once but you pay the price of not getting to go to spawn as fast
Billy in the period between end of laning phase and 20 minutes is literally invincibleyou can unironically 1v3 easily
>>543677773... and other things seekers believe about the game
>>543677376how the fuck he has 5k in 10mins in the first place
>>543677874north american player on a hero that doesn't have a built in farm tool
inhouse doko
>>543676314you know you get stunned if you get hit the moment you trigger the mount animation lol
>>543677874UNGABUNGA
Tips to make laning as Wraith less miserable? I don't mean survival wise, it's just that it's boring since she is harmless early on
>>543678031DCXFT
>>543678091don't botherjust get monster rounds and unload into the guardian
>>543676194Do you want to in-house now?
>>543678091there are no tips, you picked a sauceless low impact npc hero, that is the trade off, you want to the easy wins you play your boring ass lane and your boring ass mid game and you show up after your team 5v6s for 20 minutes to clean up
>>543678241>>543678154
>>543677874i had beginner's luck on bebop
>>543678039wasn't this removed months ago? you just get slowed heavily now
>>543678538That's for being punched while mantling. He's talking about being shot off of the zipline>>543676314If you get damaged during this, you get stunned for like 5 seconds
>>543678262Stick to ARAM, brooler.
>>543678720Im higher rank than you btw lol
>>543678720I will...When it's out...
>>543678790Y-You... Guh... I'd better back off then!
>>543678790*cums*
>>543666953its cooldown is way too lownerfing that wouldn’t make it bad, it would just make it not cancerous14s cd with transcendent for 5s of complete immunity to everything is so fucking nasty for so many characters
>>543678829Has anyone ITT played an ARAM Deadlock match? It would probably suck since the souls would be split six ways but still
>>543679085It's a good item on pretty much any hero in the game, especially if building trans cd isn't too far off the build path. They need to gut the CD on it and I think it will be fine but I wouldn't be surprised if that item goes the way of Soul Rebirth
>>543679171Not exactly a mirrored ARAM and it's the old map but this is similarhttps://youtu.be/zbHvOdkGQ_M
>>543676813I MUST BROOL!!!!>>543677376My favourite is sticking a bomb on someone before the teleport and they explode on the other side>>543678241I'll join when I come back from the gym.
why isn't there a chat in custom lobbiesyou'd think that such an esports brained company such as Valve would implement this
>>543679171don't think i've seen anyone play it yet but some heroes would just be so much better than others that the lane would have to be changed heavily for the mode. it'd be cool to see the official aram mode have a subway/sewer section
>>543679435they implemented custom lobbies one patch as an afterthought when people were asking for them then never touched them again.
Boho is now a cat.That is all.Carry on.
>>543679435The custom lobbies were literally only made for the people wanting to pugs and scrims using discord and shit
>>543678154>the code you provided did not match any party
SEX WITH TH DOORMAN!!!
>>543678091Just abuse mystic shot like everyone elseExtra spirit>mystic shot>mystic burst>Improved spirit. Same bs on every hero
>>543679395>not upgrading your ult before using it>double jumping instead of mantlingIts the little things that annoy me. Also that hideous Marvel skin
>>543679618The only other person who joined left, which automatically closed the lobby. If there's 2 people in a lobby and one leaves it fucking closes which is retardedNew codeXFGDT
>>543679751sorry it was meI won't have enough time for a match
>>543679395>lifting instead of gamingThis is why you won’t go pro
>>543680115It's fine, unless you are the one at Valve responsible for such a design
>>543677564exactly! the mina cancer canceled itself out so the match ended up being enjoyable again
XFGDTEnter this lobby.
>>543679621
>>543679582what tf is wrong with her eyes she looks like a dead head sawn to a body
>>543658919i don't think like that but I do wish i wouldn't always end up with multiple people who are admittedly knew to the game on my team almost every match.
6/12 in the lobby already, join in to broolXFGDTXFGDTXFGDT
>>543680653She's Victor's girlfriend now too.
>que two games with my european friend>both games get belarus niggers that feed the enemy lane, have 30 deaths combined by the end of the game and our walker is missing from the lane at minute 10any reason their country isn't a giant Walmart Supercenter right now?
>>543659271I know exactly what you mean man, this match making is just fucking horrendous all around.Lost 6 matches on the weekend in a row because of shit like this.
>>543681073I'm impressed you could even differentiate them from russians desu.
>>543681073you think people in the thread are joking when they say anyone east of germany are full on INTing retards?
>>543681145nta but Russians get mad when you shittalk them, Belarusians just go doomer and sulk
>>543681145Their alphabets use different characters.
>>543681435If they do it isn't as obvious as Ukr. and the only reason I can tell it isn't russian is because I know some.
XFGDT JOIN
I have never been insulted for doing poorly mid-match, ignoring end-game chatter. No one has ever told me "you need to do this" or "your build sucks". To me this is validation.
>>543681853even when i play like dogshit i've only really been flamed oncethis land is so peaceful compared to league of legends
>>5436817028 outta 12 now
>>543682045That's because league is essentially the ASSFAGGOTS equivalent of being in a squad of Ugandan child soldiers
>>543681853I've been flamed as the only positive player on my team.
>>543679395How much do you lift?
>>543681853Bashful shy emo boys who only shittalk during the final seconds are so pathetic.
>>543682420what about if Im a shy bashful emo boy who only shittalks when someone starts it...
We only need 2 more for the inhouse!code: XFGDT = X FAGGOT DEATH
>>543681217is east germany just as subhuman in video games as the slavs or are they more german-quality?
>>543682603where do you guys play from
>>543682694US East
>Play Geist>Aiming like shit>Play Lash>Hitting headshots like nobody's businessIs Lash's gun somehow special?
>>543682768It's a burst fire gun with basically no recoil
>>543682768not all guns are created equal, stuff like velocity, deviation come into play, then theres also where you are shooting from, lash is a headshot machine because hes shooting burst fire from close range after a slam, which is why they gutted his guns scaling
>>543682045tbf i prefer getting flamed than receiving passive-aggresive remarks from teammateslike todayi legit felt like shit :(
Ahh match too long5v6 mo left and we still made it an hour long match.Don't even care that we lost, we won holding out that long. Nearly won too released their patron but died doing it.
>last game of the night>it's about to endThat's when I shittalk my teammate if he's being a faggot since him getting tilted isn't my problem anymore. If I meet him again, that's a problem for tomorrow's me to deal with.
>>543682764thanks, might join another time
>>543682296He's on 4chan, so 2 plates at most.
>yamato can mantle walls while charging power slash
i don't say anything in game because i know one day i'm going to get the same 0-12 infernus on my team again and he's going to somehow feed harder just to spite me.
I've been playing spirit drifter >first game>40k damage from hunter's mark>constant threat and set the pace of the game>second game>20k damage from hunter's mark>zero impact and completely irrelevantthis is fun but turning drifter into a skill shot hero makes some games just feel terrible
My mind says Burst Fire on Seven is very suboptimal due to his gun firing in 3-round-bursts. But my heart wants it to help with my braindead plan of using Power Surge + Static Charge and then running down someone.
should i build ap rounds on vypersomeone said that with ap rounds you can proc damage thru her ult but it doesnt seem like a good investment
Am I playing Vyper wrong or are they just really badEvery game I really struggle with fights/damage despite feeling like I am trying harder with her than pretty much any other gun character
>>543684914ult + ap rounds hasn't worked in the game for a while i think
>>543684995i believe the consensus on vyper is that she falls off late game and at that point her thing in team fights is a sneaky disable/execute then slide away to harrass with infinite bullets/destroy objectives with your infinite slidey bullets
>>543685225>then slide awayand do zero damage because she has the worst damage falloff in the game
>>543684636burst fire gives movespeed so it's not all that bad but maybe headhunter would be better?
>>543684914Yes, but only for the tilt factor.>>543685173I just tested it, it works.
>>543684995yes you are playing her wrong, use split shot late game and stack your burst poison on everyoneshe does HUUUUUUUGE damage. Unfortunately her damage is completely cucked by CC and she is squishy so she just dies, that's her real problem
>>543682627>german-qualityI can't think of a single good german pro in anygame ever and the ones that do exist are often Turks or something else.
>>543685810ah ok, i was under the impression that interaction was removed when they killed her off a while back
4 slots after first gameXFGDT
Get back in here niggersXFGDTXFGDTXFGDT
anyone got the scoreboard?
>>5436865120 9 0 Lash and 0 9 0 Seven are all I can remember
>>543681692I've met a few of them some good time ago, most schools in belarus don't even teach their own language anymore. The country is pretty much occupied by russia and the language becomes more and more rare with time. At this point I almost feel bad for them.>>543682627>german-qualityGerms tilt easily, imagine thinking they've got any quality to begin with. The only ''quality'' gamers out there are nordicks as they are too autistic to rile shit up.
How do you win a game with three M1 carry that will strip the friendly side clean two minutes after lane?
>>543686512i actually got thrown the scoreboard this time for some reason
>>543686753its hard because m1 players all have unearned egos and would rather lose the game cucking each other than let 2 of them get strong and play with the team
Sorry, I got distracted buy low HP Mo&Krill.>>543686610Hey, I got 1 kill.>>543686784How do we prevent all the good players from sticking together?
>>543686784It will show you if you leave the lobby. Pretty sure the lobby is what's blocking it normally
What's the point of the one little dude in the sinner's vault
>>543686991hes keeping an eye out
>>543686463im driving back to play with my fav negros (You) chill
>>543686991He works there.
every game i had today had a shit team comp. just fucked by matchmaking rng to have a shit teamfight comp vs a dynamo abrams
XFGDT join
>>543682768lash's is burst fire, you get a lil bit of tracer fire to aim withi have a similar thing with the R8 in counterstrike, where the small delay improves my aim tenfold
>>543686784see? i dont feed ALWAYS, only usually :)
>>543686784sex with aruru
more like labubu
>>543687965bro?
>>543686962i thought i was gonna escape on 1hp again in that engagementit would be like the 4th time this match
>>543687965that's aruruu not aruru
>>543685792I was thinking that. Plus Headshot Booster in-lane isn't terrible - gives a lil bonus health and helps with damage when Static Charge stuns someone.
>pinktoes and amores are friends on steamstackniggers at it again
>>543688226käkü
>>543688226I'm friends with multiple of the inhouse players can you stop being a schizo about it
>doing well>we kill 2 of them>all our ults are up>our haze says to do midboss>I agree and also say let's go midboss>haze and I (ivy) are doing mid>the other 4 teammates instead of going mid where we could easily win a 6v4 if they contest, decide to stay up top and push up to their walker to fight the 4 other heroes>they feed>our dps wasn't high enough with only us 2 to finish mid in time>they come in and take it and we lose the gameit was such simple instructions too... Do midboss...
>>543686784To be Pocket is to Suffer
>>543685225Idk how you can say she falls off late game when her gun is the highest dps in the gameYou can just get unstoppable or juggernaught
1 more slot left, can't shuffle cause we have spectatorXFGDT
>>543688449You're unironicly the best pocket I've ever laned against; take that as you will.
what nigger shuffled
Rejoin if you want sam, someone is shuffling even with spectators which fucks with the players
>>543688449Pocket is busted, what are you talking about
>>543688784Too late. How do I spectate?
>>543688110you act like I can read and spelli lust over anime girls of course i cant
anyone else just getting a blackscreen when trying to spectate the tournament in-game right now?it lets me watch the match for like 20 seconds and then the screen just goes black with the deadlock logo in the center.
>>543688979Add me on steam (John) and try using spectate from in game
>>543689186its a common bug, just disconnect and reconnect
>>543689347i've closed my game and reconnected like 5 times now, always the same result.
>>543689418type disconnect in the console instead of closing the game
>>543689186open console and type disconnect without quitting the game
>>543686784I still think we should’ve kicked John deadlock. He better behave himself
>>543689601>>543689642still getting the issue, maybe it's because i'm from the US trying to spectate an EU game since it was working perfectly during the NA matches.
>>543689186Yep.
>>543689186Yes, I haven't been watching matches anymore as a result.
>>543690051I'm in EU and I'm still struggling. I think I'll just go to bed.
>Shitter on the enemy team typing in allchat wins because my teammembers have a combined double digit IQ
>>543688871i clearly mean the fact that my team lost not my character being bad TARD
>>543689186which tournament is one right now? I thought EU nightshift wasn't for a few more days
What if instead of Mo and Krill it was Mo and Chill and he was a really chill guy with sunglasses and shit
>>543690778they're doing their usual money match today and not the big sponsored one.
>>543690354sorry bro gotta IGL everygame or you lose!
It's funny just how dominant shiv is still especially in these pro matches and this is after he's recieved 10 million nerfs
>>543690984I'm shocked Billy isn't used more in pro-play, he's a great tank/bruiser with CC.
>>543691284And Kelvin. And Ivy. And Mina. I'm starting to think they might not be very good at nerfing heroes.
>>543691284because they buffed his fucking 3 againwhy would you ever buff his 3 again
>>543690984>>543691328Personally I am fond of calling them "Brawlers" since they tend to want to go in close and build health+res.
1 slot left(?)XFGDT
another day another game solo won by the enemy infernusis there an item that reduces healing that isn't tied to me shooting the target 5 times?
>>543692038>Healbane>Decay>Spirit Burn
>>543692038healbanespirit burn crippling headshotmultiple hero abilities
>>543692038I am fond of picrelated as Mina v Infernus.
>>543692038curse + decay will kill him if your team has any braincells
>>543692171also inhibitor which I forgot and decay as the post above me mentioneed
scoreboard for 2nd inhouse?
can you kick amores
>>543692315That requires shooting them 5 times thoughbeit
>>543692156>>543692171>>543692175I'll just buy spirit burn next time
>>543692353Can you stop being schizophrenic
they should just let me control all 5 of my team mates because even under the increased mental load there's still no way im as fucking retarded as them with all of their mental faculties intact
>>543689186you can tell when you are gonna get disconnected while spectating by keeping the console up and seeing if>[HLTV Broadcast] -----.--. Playcast cannot retrieve fragment ----, retryingkeeps showing up. If it does, you are getting disconnected at some point where it decides to just stop due to not "retrieving fragments".
a halloween update in these trying times?
What is this Bebop build that JonJon made popular? It's just a hybrid of gun/tank. Why is it used by every pro?
deathy is GAY??
>another balance-destroying bug/item oversight>it's paradox AGAINwhat is with this fucking character always having gamebreaking exploits?
>>543688226you just got beat by girls :)
HAHAUAHUAHAHAHHZ\AZHAHAHAWH IM LOSING MY FUCKING MIIIIIIIIINDGINNIS DISCONNECTS IN MINUTE 8 BECAUSE SHE KEEPS RUNNING IT DOWN AGAINST A FED PAIGE AND I REFUSE TO JOIN HER ON A SUICIDE MISSIONWHATEVER... CAN WIN 5V6INFERNUS DCS AFTER I GANK HIS LANE, KILL TWO, GET GUARDIAN BUT HE DIES BECASUE HE GETS PARRIEDWHATEVER, IM BASICALLY 1V6 NOWVISCOUS DISCONNECTS BECAUSE IG HE THOUGHT IT WAS LOSTNOW ITS 3V6, BUT WERE ALL GOOD PLAYERS, GENUINELY, UNIRONICALLY WINNABLEMINA LEAVES BECAUSE SHE WONT GET PUNISHEED AND THINKS ITS UNWINNABLEOnly Dynamo stays, has a positive mindset, keeps supporting me and tries to win with me until the very end.HAHAHAAHAH IM LOSING MY FUCKING MIND WHY DOES THIS COUNT AS A LOSS FOR ME, WHYEVEN MY PREVIOUS GAME WAS THIS >>543659271 ... I CANT FUCKING DO THISThese systems NEED to be reworked.If someone leaves THEY shoulder the burden if your team loses. All of it. I don't give a fuck if you're a third world shitter with bad internet, make it so those can appeal ig. This is fucking ridiculous. "can be abandoned without penalty" should also not be a fucking thing.Am I genuinely not justified in being pissed about this happening every time I lose.I can't even remember when my losses were actually my fault. Not once did I score worse than anyone on my team when we lost. I just... I dunno
>>543694772yoshis pet please understand
man comp deadlock is pretty fucking boringlane and then urn fight and then its ggs to whoever wins those
>play pocket>lose 3 games in a row>have more damage than anyone on either sideNot sure if its just because i have affliction or my team is doing no damage.
Last night I made a viscous build titled "I hate my team". It's got almost exclusively weapon damage and CDR for your ultimate, and the way that it functions is, you push a lane and threaten the tower or walker, and then when enemies come to stop you you ball away into their jungle so that you can farm it. Once your alt is off cool down or they leave the lane you go back and continue pushing it. You do that until one of the teams wins
>>543695278as a pocket main it is really easy to have fake or unimpactful damage on the character, a lot of it does come from affliction, being good at pocket is about making sure that damage is impactful
>>543695278affliction can do thousands of damage to everyone it hits so....
>>543688226we were on opposing teams schizo
>>543695391that's just how I normally play viscous if I don't think the enemy team will let me live for more than 3 seconds in a fight. Infernus/Holliday/Paradox are the usual suspects for that happening so I just don't bother if they're on the enemy.
any spaces in in deadhouse?
>>543695391Oh, I also took debuff remover but honestly is this item a fucking meme? The fact that it doesn't work on ultimates kind of makes it seem a little garbage
>>543696328cube purges ults anyway so I don't even find it worthwhile. Might as well get blood tribute instead since it's unconditional movespeed/fire-rate on top.
How do you play Infernus? I want to start carrying retards.
Clutch ending to that game lads, if not for our IGL Infernus we wouldn't have made the call to go for a push like that
Inhouse?
>>543697041XFGDT
>>543696532literally just hold m1 but if you get cc'd you explode so you can't initiate fights which means you need a team that will actually fight which is the hardest part
merk nigga pick
>pretty good at hitting headshots even on dogshit guns>can hit the broad side of a fucking barn with holidayshould I buy velocity just to hit shit or what?
>>543697983Holiday bullet size is tiny compared to doorman or geist who shoot literal logsSomeone posted the hitbox wireframes
>>543698058not only that, she has way more bullet spread than any other slow shooting hero
>>543697983holliday unironically has the hardest gun to use in the game, you need a lot of practice to use it and its not a velocity issue
>>543690984How does this vindicta play? It's this just snipes and run away?
>>543696532go dash build, I always regret going m1 build because it feel real bad if you dont have a team
>>543698179>>543698469The spread is just stupid considering her slow rate of fire, the bullet size makes sense and explains why sometimes I miss fucking barrels because the bullet needs to be dead on.shame she won't get buffed because she's pretty much the best hero in game, I dont want to aim train incase she gets gutted next patch
someone needs to tell valve that spectating ingame doesn't fucking work at all right now.
How do I get this hud to show up?
>>543699584i think you have to set the ability/item to quickcast in your keybind settings
If you like to watch people throw games watch this one: 45597606
Does block only work on melee? all abilities? or what?
should i play another game or go to bed?
>>543699890meleeif you buy counterspell it blocks basically everything except bullets
>>543699991play another if youre 25 years old or less
>any gun carrier gets fed>you can buy plate armor, juggernaut combined and still get melted in one secondThis game was designed by retards
>hollowpoint armor reduction doesn't work on bullets that bounced from ricochetcome on now, that has to be a bug right?
>>543700176>metal skin / veil walker / enteral shift existyou can itemize against m1 pretty easily
>>543700176just use dynamo ult on them bro!
>>543700176if you can't fight them, spam every CC item in their ass
>gun doorman popping creeps in one shothis aim is aimbot tier too wtf
>>543699890I know block works against Viscous's puddle punch but afaik you need Counterspell to make it work against anything else.
the eu team lost...
>>543700176actually the best counters are metal skin and return fire, its a good thing gun characters cant turn them off haha
ah yes 2 hitlers and 2 maos want a fun matchup to play against
What can interrupt Infernus' ult after he has started it but before it pops?
Gun doorman rat kino
>>543700983There was actually 5 hitlers in that game, 6 if there was a second paige
XFGDT
>>543701078im glad ginnis is respected in this chat
>>543700720Sinclair is literally just a better paige against paige. This isn't the case for dynamo because hes not just a press ult button and can actually gap close easily. They need to just remove dragon and replace it with somwthing more reliable.
>TA (John Deadlock) and Chris Breezy/DeadlockTFin (Dr Johnathan) on the same team again except they just changed their names Bruh. Stack niggers get the ropeThe fact one went on his alt and the other changed his name is actually even scummier. Just ban these losers, they can't not stack for some reason
>>543701273why do you retards keep joining
>>543698469bro what, I never played holiday before, played her once and it felt like I had bullet magnetism.
>>543701273yeah even after getting called out. This has to be on purpose. A shame since the matches they weren't here were a lot of fun
>>543701352play her against people that dont move like bots
quinn streaming dl, did mr calm cool and collected swap games
is express shot supposed to not be able to headshot?i'm doing the same damage in testing on body shots and head shots.
Leaderboard for today's inhouses?
>>543701119only need one more
>>543701596Who
>>543701470Her gun isn't any harder than Geists, in fact it feels easier to use.
>>543701672post the current lobby and I'll see if I should join
>>543701724other than arteezy and sneyking probably the best dota talent NA has produced
>>543701352I think its pretty much fact that her gun is hard to hit with. Doorman has a weird arc but its projectile is huge, same with paige, both have huge bullets with high damage. Holiday has a tiny bullet with spread and slow rate of fire.
is it possible to get green arrows on every hero
>>543701890Yes if you play as Grey Talon and aim well
>>543701839
>>543701890idk but i have red arrows on all heroes so probably yes
>>543701826no shot,geists is actually really easy to hit with and its projectile is way bigger.
>>543701273The fact they're hiding it shows they know they're doing something wrong. Dr Jonathan literally changed his name 10+ times between yesterday and today. Same steam ID though as TA's team stacking boyfriend. Why can't they just be cool
https://streamable.com/l4u6k2Heh
>>543701890Yes.
>parry saving and killing your slept teammatemost based move in existence
>>543701937>drifter untakenOn my way
poop rat pick
>>543701826This is literally Factually, objectively wrongHolliday bullet size is half of what geist has
>>543701854aui, ppd, sumail, fear
>>543702065>>543702103>on mina tooWhat a cunt
>>543702375idk why it feels so much easier to land then, maybe it's just the bullet speed. Speaking of, why the fuck don't they standardize the bullet size for everyone besides the oddball guns like visc/kelvin.
What are you supposed to do when it's 8 minutes into a game and the enemy mcginiss has already half destroyed our walked in one of the lanes? Do you just abandon your lane and let your teammate get fucked, lose the tower, lose gold and try to kill the mcginiss who is going to respawn 20 seconds later? She's a shit character but at the same time there's always these mcginiss psychopaths who just rape their lane to the point that the match is near unsalvageable by the 10 minute mark
>>543702103do you have subway surfer on a 3rd monitor too?
>>543702579ask to lane swap ig and hope they don't feed your laner or gamble that you can stomp your lane just as hard.
>>543702543Because that would be boring.
>>543701273yeah I joined, saw that and noped out. Easier to just wait for them to go to bed then subject myself to that. Would be nice if we had a ban list but I'd rather they just stop being dicks and just not intentionally stack like that
>>543702698Why asking...
>>543702857???none of them are even in the inhouse
>>543702103>no fun's out Paige.
10/12. Pooprat wouldn't ready upXFGDTXFGDTXFGDTXFGDT
>>543702931playing a game while listening to the same game is insane, you hear their sounds too>>543702857never trust australians
>>543702981NTA but one changed his name and the other was on his smurf >>543701273
>>543703132Yeah its probably not the best for focusing on game
>>543703058ONE MORE NEEDED
>>543703009Imagine her running between lanes with her 2 stamina, her fat sweaty thighs chaffing and her asschecks clapping with every step....rapeAnyways, i left lobby i had to take a shit and eat some food enjoy deadlock.All things considered gamez were pretty fun today, win or loss.Kinda proud of myself from that one lane i played doorman + shiv against wraith + mo
>>543703009>Vyper gets to SA thisShe's so lucky...
>>543703678Isn't Vyper too busy getting railed by "Lash" in a dark alley?
>>543703774Vyper fucks 3 thingsBillyProstitutesAnd Paige (nonconsensual)
>dominate the haze as drifter> he says gg no team after lel he mad
How do I see the range of abilities visualized?
>>543704902Like Bebop's hook range isn't visualized
>>543693813sniffffffff
Is Calico the most insane SS tier we had to suffer since prime unnerfed ult Seven?
>>543705529buy slowing hex
>>543705628In this economy?
There's always a nigger thinking he's smart saying "Well, actually you can counter one of the hundred thing broken about *current OP hero* by buying X item"
>WraithWhile league of legends attuned: (Nuke, teleport, attack buff, stun) she cannot deal damage to objectives.
>>543705529Kelvin, doorman and wraith are bigger problems. Calico is only good because of the frozen pulse item.
8/12XFGDTXFGDTXFGDT
XFGDT6/12 no stackniggers present
i haven't seen anyone buy extra health in lane for monthsis it really that bad?
mf we lost everyone
anyone got scoreboards from the inhouses today?
Did they gut Mina's movespeed or something?I got her randomly in a game and holy fuck I felt so fucking slow, what the fuck
>>543701273some people just don't have the restrain to not be total trolls even when asked not to
>>543706691>XFGDTparty's over I guess
>>543706847compare restorative shot to extra health for lane value
>>543706847I buy extra health if i dont get shot too much in lane. restorative shot, healing rite if I'm getting shot
Out of every hero, Sinclair needs a nerf more than anyone. Able to do 500+ damage with bolts with less than 4k souls on a short cdfuck that
Really enjoying Drifter. Haven't lost a single (matchmaking) game with him yet. >>543706847Fortitude just isn't that good anymore. And you need to decide carefully on what T1s you buy in lane. More health also means you need more healing, so most people would rather opt for just getting the latter. Healing just gives you more effective health. Maybe if you're getting bursted down and dying quickly a lot it might be quite useful.
>>543706847Builds into nothing and regen would be better.
Hate sooolving my recovery when im just farminf creepcamps
Does anyone want to queue 1 game? I'm initiate
>>543708084cute miku
how much worse am i gonna get at this game if i completely stop playing solo queue and instead only play inhouses? is this a viable choice?i want to feel enjoyment out of this game but standard matches have been hell on earth for me for the past 2-3 weeks with no signs of stopping...
>>543708828you should stop solo queueing and get a friend
>>543708084LMAO your aim shaking when you're about to kill them, true bloodlust
This drifter ult migh have been overkill but sometimes I just pop it to see if I'm about to get bumraped >>543706880This was from the last inhouse game. You can enter code to view it >>543682296>>543683896Overhead pressed 70kg's today. So I guess you'd be right>>543708828Well you'd improve without your rank changing so if anything you'd only get better
>>543708385Are you male or female
>>543708084>about to get the haze>starts having a seizure of excitementholy kek
>>543708385I will but I'm Emissary III...scared?
>>543682296Nta but i bench 3 plates for 6 with pause
>>543709302male>>543709451no, heres my fc 1049651368
what's a good warden build
>>543709403LMAO I didn’t even notice the first time watchingwhat the helly kind of dlg autism
Why does the match making force you to lose? Just played a game where my entire team was absolutely shit on the entire time by a very obviously better team. Not even counting the fact it seemed like we had atleast 2 players who were new and didn't even really know what they're doing.Like you can't tell me the game didn't just straight up stack all of the better players on the enemy team, there is no way. Maybe the enemy team was on smurf accounts, idk, something, match making in this game is utter dog shit. Why can't they just make it good? Or at the very least not bad? There is no way it's that complicated, there's no way
>>543709594Cute cute cute animu!
>>543701937>poop rative done whooped this niggas ass in a random game
>>543709902There's definitely some shit going on because it even happens in Ascendant. I had a Yamato go 1/12 somehow, and the rest of my team were acting like bots.
AAAAHHHMY AIM IS SO BADI CANT HIT ANYONE WITH DRIFTER KILL MEEEE
>>543709189Lash would’ve live if he just ran for the walker. A lesson in greed
>>543708084>>543709189Played him a bit todayEither i was doing mad damage or I was being useless, there's no in between.What build do you go for ? Gun ? Spirit ?
>decided to finally play a game today>first match laning with a drifter>he plays too aggressive and is killed, immediately comes back and dies again because he didn't see that lash had ult>he rage quits.I really wish leavers had like 1 month ban or something
>Just discovered wall jumpsWhat the fuck is all this shit up here doing?
>>543710536Like 6 months?
>>543709682>>543709124even in other generals swallow god always seemed like he enjoyed killing other players a little too much
>>543710536i remember when the game didn't have walljumps
hope to god mina gets shot in the kneecaps next patch, fuck this hero
>>543710894this but infernus
Wtf is this thing?
>>543710894H-Hot...
>>543711128it's a sign telling you that if you go down there you'll get to midboss
>>543711128its the rejuv you just need to heavy melee it bro
>>543711128mid boss indicator
>>543711128That's the rejuvenator's symbol (buff dropped by the mid boss)It marks the access to the boss room.
>>543710894she has horrible winrate so she probably won't be nerfed muchhaze infernus victor are my guesses
>>543709649that is a good question which I want to know as wellI unironically kinda like the default build more than most guides I've tried
goddamn matches have been super shitty tonightone sided swings either waynot a single fair match up and I've been playing for 4 hours
>>543709403he just like me frfr
>>543709649beef up your spirit power and ult and get unstoppable
>>543711402the combo of escape > eshift > escape is just fucking retarded, unless you have curse theres no way to catch her and thats a 6,4k item
>>543711405I had some extremely fun and close matches :)Feels good captaining my team to a win
>>543711528eshift will be nerfed surely
>>543711528even curse is not enough with her small ass hitbox and million dashesYou need mo to literally phantom strike and grab her next to a m1gger
>>543711528seems like a eshift issue.
I'm new to the game. How do I even learn this map? It's so hugeWhat are the best shortcuts?
>>543702375Is there a way to verify projectile size in-game through some source magic?
Where does Mina's (and I guess also Drifter's) magic come from? Is it just because they're Vampires? Desu I'm really tired of settings where vampires basically just get to be X-Men for no real reason.
>>543712003you can explore new york from the game mode menujust take a stroll around and learn the routes between and where the camps arethe map is super vertical and the minimap doesnt show it off all that wellalso learn to use the vent boosts to get from lane to lane
>>543708916all my friends are normies and those few who play MOBAs completely scoff at deadlock's premise and existance
Is Gunadox hella tight in shitlow? I'm alchemist vi edging hard to arcanist i.
>>543709682>>543709403>>543709124I'm baffled looking at this. I don't remember doing this but it's also in the replay. It must've been some sort of bug or something because I was holding M2>>543710356Mostly gun with some slop items like spirit snatch or veil walker. Used to get coldfront a lot but I think it doesn't do enough. You need to get kills in lane and balance roaming with farming as those stacks are important on your late game effectivness. Landing your 2 is actually huge in cleaning up those kills and getting stacks. Might experiment with spirit/melee drifter where you get echoshard on rend—might be funny
>>543712003It's very simple1) Just go into the free explore mode and walk around for 30 minutes until you grasp the basic layout of the map2) Watch high level / pro plays and see how they are travelling around the map quickly.Especially their escape route.3) It's gonna take time, so don't expect you can watch a 5 minutes video and suddenly become a pro at the map.
>>543712003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJLbNROKHNs
>>543712206we don't know much about dl vampires so probably
Why does the game keep reverting my instant cast settings whenever I launch the game?!
>>543713847it resets the party laning too and the autobuy shit its so annoying
>>543651069>kryllic nigger teammates >kryllic nigger teammates >kryllic nigger teammates >kryllic nigger teammates ggs
Spirit drifter is ba-I COMMAND THEE KNEEL!
>>543714453it is literally worth it to vpn and play in na than to play with slavoids
How do I get a smurf? I tried sending my like 5+ year old smurf account an invite, but it shares the email with my main and no invite yet.Also I'm planning to use this smurf to get super high and play with my dog water friends. Playing with them on my main sucks because I need to tryhard and micro manage them or we just legit lose 2 lanes where one victor/billy/haze is 20k networth at 15 mins.
When i was playing fighting games i used to often cope when losing to dumb shit that it was my character and that i'd do better on the dumb ones, most of the time i proved wrong when attempting to switch and i'd discover weaknesses and shit.But in Deadlock, switching from Drifter and Vindicta to Wraith, Kelvin and Calico got me from Archon hell to Oracle VI in an instant.
>>543714809spend $5 on a new steam account, send an invite, wait 30 minutes
>>543706880<>>543714657What items? I wanna try that. Gun Drifter can't carry
>>543715045>m on team>lose
>>543714657the mark does so much damage
>>543714946You can also easily refund the five bucks toomade two for free, but the MMR is still shared so it’s easier to climb until your main rank at which it will become grindy
>>543714657>>543715045literally has the most broken ult in the entire gameno reason to use drifter as anything else other than refreshing spamming niggersupport
>>543715094
>>543714809>smurfing in a game in alphakill yourself
>>543715045Focus lens , arctic blast, sprit snatch, point blank, headhunter, boundless
>>543714809>self suck session disguised with a question
>>543715518the state of a game's development should have no effect on my right to stomp shitters that are no challenge to me
>>543715574No tankbuster for rend?
>>543714809this is a legit problem tho>want to play with friends who arent mobatards like me>if they party with me they get put into lobbies closer to my mmr>get shitstomped and they never want to play the game againthanks iceforg
>>543715720yeah i got tank too, i can screen shot later but tankbuster isnt exactly necessary it's low DPS just good burst to finish kills against people who can escape, situational
>pick billy/abram>enemy team gains ultra instinct that can block quick melees in any situationevery tim.
>>543712003just play. you will get lost a lot at first
>>543715781Playing with bots until they get used to it is the only option, the problem is that bots are shit so they'll never learn properly to play an actual game.
>>543693813I'm gooning to this
>>543715672>stomp shitters>they quit>game no longer has players>you are now the shitter getting constantly stomped>you quit>game is deadyou faggots are so short sighted
>>543716362>he can't detect sarcasm
Landing stalker's mark is really satisfying. It's basically a reverse bebop hook
>>543715720>>543715045>>543714657Some items are interchangeable like headhunter can be added or not. Get defensives if losing like frenzy/spellrbeaker
>first match get a 1-5 Haze who quits 15 minutes in despite us being ahead >he has pic related as his recent games >second match up against a 3-stack consisting of 2 smurfs>only one of my teammates managed to get 1000+ SPM in that 32 minute matchAlright, that's enough Deadlock for tonight.
Surrender vote when?
>>543712227>also learn to use the vent boosts to get from lane to laneIs there a simple guide for them? I don't want to do wallboosts or whatever
>>543717626this would save everyone a lot of time
IDoNotWantToLaneAgainstMcginnisAnymore5 fucking matches in a row
>>543717626I would rather ice fraud figure out how to design proper cumback mechsnics. I know theres urn which will deliver closer to your spawn, i know lowest players get paesive souls, and i know boxes and cat statues are all supposed to help but they do not.
>personal rule to never punch before baiting the first lane opponent into a parry>never have to worry about getting parried and dying in lane>run up and act like im gonna punch>they parry>rev up a heavy melee aftertake the fakeout pill bros
>>543718080There are limits to how much comeback mechanics you can add or buff before the game outright starts rewarding you for losing.It's a MOBA, the thing people like the most in these kinda game is to stomp underleveled ennemies, that identity is never gonna go away.
>>543715965>play paige>nobody seems to think you can melee or parryEverytime
>>543718285I think matches where you just barely win feel better than sweeping the enemy.Even when you barely lose it feels better than a stomp.
>>543718514most paige players are potatoes.it's genuinely the right thing to do to underestimate a paige player.
>>543712510Please advise. I need to win. Please. I need this.
>MINA WITH 56K SOULS>18k damage in 42 minutesjesus fucking christ
>>543718285no they dont lmaoeveryone wants close matches but they DO want to be rewarded with a big lead if they outplay them consistently
>>543716951how differently do you play from normal gun drifter?
>>543719335a lot, gun drifter is basically m1 carry this guy plays like pocket
>>543716524>i was only pretending to be retarded
>>543716795does anyone ever max out his 2 for the charges? What's even the point?
I'm going to miss gunman when it gets nerfed tomorrow
The snowballing in this shit game is gonna make me quit. Literally worse than Deadlock "launch".>team/person way in the lead >they have more and better items but ALSO free stats just by having more items (category scaling) and boonsCategory scaling needs to be axed. Boons need to be nerfed to hell. This isn't Dota where laning and mid-game actually matter.
>>543719979good thing Icefrog doesn't want ffing huh even though games are 'end in 20 minutes' quality in eternusjust come back lol
>>543660063give spirit snatch a try, you're already getting into melee range with your slam
If you die do you lose souls?
>>543718080redditbacks they should be calledif i stomp my lane 10-0 i should have more than 800 souls when we kill their tower
>friend wants an invite to try out deadlock>wants me to play with them>phantom shitter>brings me down to arcanist lobbies>decide to play m1 carry>carry the gameOkay, I'm only going to play characters I suck at this doesn't feel right.
>>543720542unsecured souls are subtracted from your soul count when you die
>>543720225how on earth is not playing the game a solution to his critique? you leaguebabies are something else
>>543720542you drop unspent souls from jungle camps, so if someone jumps you while you're afk farming you will transfer all of that value to them
>>543706497Kelvin is super easy to shut out
>>543720679that's why solo ranked was so fun, everyone equal skillparties fuck the game up so much
>>543721185It was a beautiful time. All those carried animals had to swallow my big solo cock.
>going against a Victor>he runs faster than me so I can't escape>purges all my CC>just buy damage so I can outtrade him>winYou'd think people would learn by now with Viscous being in the game for so long but the way to deal with unkillable heroes isn't to CC trap them, it's to just hit them hard enough that they have to run off
what's the ivy build now? still m1?
I made it to oracle 1. I am now a high rank chat. Noobs bow down to me
>>543722174i kneel to those in the ELO IVORY TOWER
>>543722174I meant chad
>>543708084
>>543722506me on the right
damn, so gun doorman suddenly got a rise of popularity it seemswell, i hope they just nerf the gun and don't touch spirit can't handle posers playing MY character
>>543721950I legit make the face on the right when my lane partner lands a parry
>>543720921I have more hours on Dota than you ever will in your lifeThe two games are not even remotely comparable
ever since the rank shift my match quality improved a lot, yours anon? t. emissary
>>543723379same rank and yeah the matches are the best theyve ever been for me, basically no smurfs and people getting along/listening/shotcalling
pushed up from emissary/archon to phantom/ascendantmore bruised egos and aimbotters than ever
the best matches are better but the worst matches are worseeither everyone on my team is on the same page and comming or my team is 5 headless chickens with zero concept of planning or proactively making decisions
what's ivy build
Laning against Mina is pretty impossible as half the fucking roster if she just plays by Guardian, breh. What can I do to stop myself from killing myself because of this Korean Succubus.
>>543723096>I have more hours on Dota than you ever will in your lifeWhy the fuck would i ever play Dota or League
>>543724229what does that even meanevery single lane has tons of cover between guardian and your ass
>winning game>team gets overconfident and pushes blue walkerwithout me giving them 4 kills + our yellow walker + urn>lose gamehate subhumans so much
Who are the best laners in the game?
>I'm 8k ahead on souls of everyone else in the game>ganking niggers left and right>but team always pussies out and leaves fights earlyKill people through the internet
I basically have my hands full maintaining the wave in my lane, where do I find the time to jungle/boxes/buffs or roam? Is this just a movement skill issue? Should I only go roam when I see the other team left the lane? What if I lose the lane early?
>>543724589mina (for insane long range pressure), mcginnis (has it all), and paige (shields, cc, and big aoe)
>>543724472Anon...Making mistakes is the most human thing of all...
>>543722506>don't talk to me until I've bought my rebuttal>Warning: May Randomly Start Pressing F >#1 Parry Enjoyer>47 melees parried today
>>543724589yamato, mcginnis
>>543724779ABPAlways be pushingat least right now, that's the meta. push lane in, pressure the opps with power spikes like the 3.3k ult unlock or a big item. when the creep exp is properly soaked (full wave dies) you go off and box hunt. overall roaming is a dynamic thing, but if you get a good rune or you feel like you might kill an overextended mid or something you go roam, but that opens up a bag of worms with exp soaking them so make sure you aren't staying around
>>543724779This is why you buy monster rounds, if you find the enemy is pushing wave way harder than you
>>543724987wherethefuckareyouaiming
>>543724987MY HANDS ARE SHAKING. MY HANDS ARE SHAKING. BUT I'M STILL SHOOTING! AND I'M STILL GETTING BLOODSTACKS!
>>543725174Yeah I really need to get a grip on items too. Right now I just blindly buy what the build says left to right. Don't even know what most of them do except make me stronger and reduce cooldowns.>>543725080That makes sense thanks. I need to play a lot more so I can put that stuff into practice.
>>543718660barely-eeked out wins are fun SOMETIMES, but often they're less "oh hell yeah we came back and won the game" and more "holy shit that was miserable until the last two minutes thank fuck the enemy team went full dumbass mode then and we were able to end"
>>543725238>>543725617It's just replay gank. I also have 90-100 ping in inhouse which might make the replay even more ganky.I SWEAR it didn't look this spastic on my screen. Like see how the reticle doesn't track well when I spin around.>>543726041I agree with always be pushing. One stealth way teams lose is by leaving lanes empty. Never let there be an empty lane unless there's a super important teamfight. Any lane past the mid point should have a teammate getting the souls. When 3-4 teammates hang around each other on the same lane and leave one empty the amount of souls the team is getting is considerably neutered
>>543726396ok shrimple
>>543726396ivy jumpscare
>>543721950>>he runs faster than me so I can't escape>>just buy damage so I can outtrade him>he hits e-shift every 10 seconds>lose
>>543722506
Just played against an enemy Infernus who had 63k souls, 30 kills, 62k damage, 16k objective damage, and 18k healing in a 33 minute game. He also had all the little stat things at the end of the game except for deaths and assists. What the fuck is this matchmaking??
>>543724928It's not really about that it's more like I would have a better chance of winning if I had thrown a bit so they played more conservatively. The team that's winning by just a little bit usually throws by being the one that pushes first.
>>543727202That doesnt really mean he's super good that's just how broken infernus is if he goes unchecked. He's the biggest carry in the gameHe COULD be smurfing though, you can check on statlocker or whatever
remove catwoman from the game.
>>543727103i do not understand this image whatsoever
There's nothing funnier than just living in the enemy jungle as Doorman. Just running around stealing camps and slot machines, sending people into walls and shooting them in the head multiple times, parrying people trying to do sinner's. And if they try to get you you just door away. Even in Ascendant lobbies people aren't coordinated enough to properly hunt you down most of the times
need ivy build
for da djinn
Wraith voiceline when getting grabbed by Bebop is positively adorable
>calico and mina on enemy teamI can't catch these fucking unkillable evasive bitches, my GOD
>>543729556Just buy Slowing Hex if you're a fed gun niggerAnd eat shit if you're playing literally anyone else
>>543729556i can try queueeuening against you as mina, i always do nothing of use and die of cringe.
I hope they gut capacitor like full on remove the slow and increase the cd to 280s
What are ranks like in the in-house matches? I'm Alchemist VI maybe I'll play some tomorrow.
>my team starts dominating>about to break a huge losing streak>they start talking about their careers>get fucking distracted and die over and over>loseYou know what? I don't give a shit anymore. This game is fucking retarded.
>if the enemy is ahead there is literally nothing you can do to stop them because they can just keep killing you under structures>they can also take your entire jungle for free>they can do urn for free>and midboss>can only try to farm off troopers>they can also deny thoseHow the FUCK do you come back???
>>543730553They can't be everywhere at once or always together. Get picks and play where they aren't.
>>543730553You don't. You can hope that they die at your base and then you push to their patron and down it, then they die again and you win.Most likely though after 20 minutes of jerking off and proloning the game t hey decide to take mid and kill you to death.
>people just non stop bitching about eshift now whenever I dump my load on them as pocketholy borg, can we go back to kelvin, this niggers gonna dodge the bat again
i keep getting a guy in my lobbies that gets mad if you don't take the match seriously even though we're in one of the lowest ranks in the gamewhat a faggot
I built Viscous around his 3 and somehow ended up with my best game of the day, Having more kills than my Haze. Low elo lobby but god, I was having fun!
>kill 3 heros>call is made to go midboss>team is like "b-but there's 3 alive">kill a fourth>call to go midboss>only me and shot caller go to midboss>Lash on the team smugly and condescendingly says "Yeeah, you guys do that." as he runs the urn instead>win thoughgardless
>>543730848>get picks somehow>even though if you are behind it is impossible to kill the enemy
mid boss hella needs a fucking name i hate how calling mid can be so ambiguous sometimes
Nice draft,another game of LITERALLY NOBODY goes in kryllic nigger hell
>>543730125i joined today and i'm initiate 5, it was fine
Is there any easy way to seehow many buffs you got from sinners/statues? I can hover for gun/hp/spirit individually but you cant for CDR and it would be easier to just see one menu
>>543727837the creator is oracle
>>543703493>Paige's fat thighs slapping against each other with every step
>>543730125That should be fine except for when the stack trannies join to stomp the lobby.
Konnichiwa you little jit
>>543724589paradox is the only character in the game with no bad lane matchups, shes not necessarily the most dominant but shes strong into everyone
>>543731873let's call it BOSS
>>543732306>Icy Macku Guinness
They need to make a character with ult that forces 1v1.Like there's a chain between you & the enemy, and you & the enemy can only deal damages to each others.And whoever wins will get a permanent buff.
>haze raping me all game for 30 minutes>late game both sides have exposed second form patron>he sleeps and ults me for the 9th time this game>he didnt realize i got metal skin so I punch him to death in ult>get boss and win the game off itLMAOOOOO
>>543732678That's kelvin thoughever
is bloodletting actually good
>>543733347in your opinion, what could possibly make the answer to this no
>>543733421it’s six seconds
Still messing around with that Amazon hero idea, definitely more unique now but god this would be annoying to fight against.
>>543733486the length of time is almost negligible for a character like shiv, the most danagerous damage is burst which bloodletting allows him to tank, this allows him forms of healing to survive where no other character could(veil walker, resto shot, lifesteal), make insane use of any barrier that exists, and even more fucking retarded, instantly eshift to ignore the deferred damage
>>543733635hm now that I think about it, I do buy eshift a lot and shit on abrams who try to keep pinning methat makes sense, thanks for an actual reply lol
>>543733523are you autistic
>>543733816I'm here, ain't I?
What kind of player do you think I am?
any heroes similar to gun paige?
>>543734131unremarkable and average, but not bad to have on my team.at least you aren't the 0-12 infernus.
>>543734448Okay post yours then
>>543734820you asked to be judged and i judged you, why are you acting defensive?
>>543734939I think you have a poor understanding on how stats work in a world of averages. I think by looking at your own you’ll understand better
>>543651069The entire existence of a hero as poorly designed as Victor worries me deeply for the long term health of this game. What a fucking joke of a design.
>>543735084so you were just trying to humblebrag about your stats, huh?
>>543734131someone who doesnt prefire to boost their stats
What are some character archetypes YOU want to see?For me>American army GI dude, maybe a skellybro who summons a squad>Irishman named either Paddy or Sheamus who is like Billy but less gay
How long till Total M1gger Death patch?
>>543736118italian mobster with a sawed off shotgun that throws nailbombs at people
Who should I play if i want to never leave lane, hard push into enemy base, and then run away like a rat when they send multiple people after me? I want 100k objective damage.
When will valve add a swordsman hero to this game?
i love gun paige i love having glass cannon split shot and a fuck ton of spirit boosters so when enemies see me they run away in fear of the hell i will rain down on them
>>543736118A character with no gun at all so I dont have to aim. It could be like abathur in HOTS where you just latch onto someone and cast abilities globally without controlling your own movement.
>>543736432wraith calico or mcginnismcginnis doesnt really escape though she just has a wall to waste their time and setup your turrets/heals to make it not worth it to invest killing youcalico and wraith are the best splitpush heroes right now, wraith for gun damage and calico for being an unkillable giga assassin that can sit in a lane and force re
>>543735189they're busy making heroes fun they'll balance this shit later
>>543733125I know it's hard to resist the urge to go smack sinners but just wait damn you and it will heal you fast
>>543737670stay in your shitlo paige abuser
>>543734131>KD ratio>50th%: 1.14That doesn't add up.
>>543736118Wraith but a Crocodile instead of negress
If you play Gun Doorman, you deserve to be a victim in a cartel execution video. What a fucking cancerous patch this is fuck off
>>543736298Isn't that just shiv?
Calico should've looked like pic related
>>543736118>a clown of some sort seems obligatory>a ninja of some kind that tracked down yamato>a leprechaun>another fairfax, maybe like an illegitimate child or a cousin with something to prove with more shit from pockets dad>a werewolf
>>543731173since they nerfed just about everything else punch is actually viable
>>543731173phantom is still shitlow but people rarely try to parry punch even there. Balance is fucked this patch so I've just been starting punch then building gun once lane's over.
>>543736118high society french chef with a twirly mustache, melee character with either a giant chefs knife or a stinky fish carcass. wish would be his own restraunt and finally leaving the baroness (could have beef with doorman cause chef hates working there)
>>543739090I hate that Drifter is legit just a werewolf but "vampire". Literally the perfect werewolf kit and aesthetic but they made him a shitty old vampire.What the fuck were they thinking?
>paige dying alone to haze every fight>buys glass cannonlegit retarded
>>543740142they don't want the dog dick audience.and a hobo vampire is way funnier since werewolves are probably homeless as a default.
>>543740193Sorta relevant but fuck me glass cannon is overtuned. Its draw back is pretty much invalidated by a single decent green item
>>543740423nigga we gonna boil you
>>543740423ffxiv sucks wrong thread faggot
>>543740423ok
for anyone unaware, valve just made it so you can craft knives in cs2 by using 5x one item rarity lower as fodder. every knife has collapsed 50% to 80% in value on the steam market and off the steam market. this probably means that deadlock won't have normal lootboxes, and valve might retire lootboxes in dota and tf2 if this is due to some upcoming EU legislation about digital item gambling
>we have 14-troons in this very thread
>>543740889They will almost certainly not do boxes. Most likely there will be hero skins and maybe weapon skins separately that you purchase outright.Worst case scenario they go the direction of overwatch, and start having victory pose screens and spray tags, to pad out loot box tables but I doubt that will happen
i feel like a lot of characters are just doomed to suck at gun because their bullet velocity is too slow and the increased velocity items are fucking terrible.
>>543724589sinclair
>>543741056summer update where every hero gets a swimsuit outfit and valve makes one billion dollars
>>543740338>>543740193He was on the enemy team and went 1-7 so I killed him again.Glass cannon imo is actually a fine item, it's only really broken when the character is already broken like doorman. That's the only good character to build on this patch imo. And only because he has the free stun setup with cart
is there some kind of limit to how many mods you can install to deadlock currently? Got a bunch of random shitpost sound mods and now my skins aren't loading, but if I re-install the skins then some of the sounds don't work.
>>543740142disgusting greasy freak vampire > generic werewolf design
>>543742225>Glass cannon imo is actually a fine item6400 items for potentially 144% damage increase is not "fine"
>>543742580it's 0% damage increase if you fucking die to one CC because you didnt have enough hp to proc vamp burst, dumbass
man i love pisslows where no one buys counters and defenses
>>543740142A werewolf character should have a proper transforming gimmick. Without transforming, that's just a wolfman. Like Warwick. Boring.
>want to play warden>victor exists and then so doesn't my 3remove the fucking cleanse already jfc
>not the world's best aimer by any means but top 10% in accuracy, HS accuracy, etc, can do very well enough on tons of m1 heroes like infernus, wraith, haze, mcginnis>legit can't hit a single fucking shot on holiday, let alone a HSI literally feel like my game is bugged from changing to a custom crosshair for the first time or something, it's actually insane how I just could not hit shots as heralso wtf are these captchas now, jesus fuck, who needs this level of protection??
So who got the best gun and who got the worse one?
How do I change these key binds? I used to be able to, but now my changes don't persist between game launches.
>>543743823>but now my changes don't persist between game launches.Happens to multiple of the different settings in the game to me so I'm interested too
you are in your vault doing your sinners when suddenlyhttps://deadlock.wiki/images/8/84/Telekinesis_cast_start.mp3
>>543743938why does it sound like billy ult
>>543743823Where the hell are the key binding configs stored? There is nothing in "Deadlock\game\citadel\cfg".
>>543743462DoormanMo and krill
>enemy Holliday buying pure gun>deleting anyone she gets her sights on>but buys no greens other than vampiric burst>ult her as Mo every fight and their team is essentially -1 herokek, George and Floyd is so based.
>>543745007
>>543744926sinclair definitely has the worst gun.
>>543745309Ehhhhh he can delete walkers with it
>>543745007Need more heroes like The Doorman and Mo so hypercarry players are more forced into buying Unstoppable if they want to solo entire teams
>>543745007My fuarking hero...
Has matchmaking finally stabilized or is it still being slapped around by new players coming in?
high quality in-game postershttps://www.artstation.com/artwork/kN9Baxthis one is my favorite because I imagine it as a low quality service that does not involve any magic; basically a scam
>>543745309Not really, assistant makes up for a lot of the faults with it by adding auto aim spirit damage that doesn't have fall off. Krill's is actual dogshit.
>>543746672>he actually likes the AI generated postersyikes...
>>543746847we were talking about the gun specifically, not their abilities.sinclair's gun is like 9 dps less than mo's.
>>543736118Caleb from Blood, no changes
>>543745309I find Sinclairs gun to be fine, especially in conjunction with the 2 ability, you can be a real menace during laning with it
>>543747031Mina's gun literally does 27 dps then if we're going by pure base dps.
>>543747031I mean Mo has like one of the highest base gun DPS in the game, that's not really a good measure of what makes a good gun.
>>543747102crudux cruo!
>>543746672Ty for the link
>>543747207Mo's isn't even close to the highest dps. Hes pretty much dead average.
>>543747294Thank Yoshi we have no hitscan weapons in this game
>>543747351He had the third highest a year ago behind a fully spun up McGinnis and kelvin, not sure about now.
>>543747207no, he does not.this is maxed out boons sorted by base DPS.
>>543747619Nobody said anything about maxed out'
>>543747619what the hell is up with pocket's scaling?
https://steamdb.info/app/3488080/history/A lot of activity once again in the supposed Deadlock Experimental, even as late as two hours ago from me making this post. They are definitely working on something.
>>543747783Nothing
>>543747772good news, his position on the list barely changes when you sort by level 1 base dps!retard.
>>543747294
>>543748002>>543747619minabros... how do I build her orange...
>>543748002>barelywhat a mongoloid
>>543748243i'm not sure how going from 15th to 18th changes anything in this discussion, but you can keep pretending he has the best gun in the game if you like.
>>543748423>I'm arguing with an anon that can't count to 20that explains a lot honestly
>>543748581i didn't bother actually counting the rows because this shit is insignificant.i don't know in what world being near the middle of the pack at any point in the game counts as "one of the highest in the game".sorry i called you a retard if that's what upset you, that was being too generous.
>realizes moving up 5 places is pretty significant>tried to pretend it was only 3>gets called out for miscounting>writes a butthurt paragraph lmao
>>543736634Don Quixote-esque character that thinks the patrons are dragons.
>>543748898That's stupid since Paige actually summons dragons
>>543748854i literally did not count them because it's a waste of time, i have no fucking idea what you are trying to argue here other than you're upset someone called you a retard.
notice how he can't keep himself from replying.
>>543747619>>543748002>Migu has one of the best gun DPS>every time I build pure gun on her it feels like absolute garbagehow come?
>>543749086i will keep replying until you tell me what you are trying to argue here, i am genuinely curious.
reply to me again and I might tell you
>>543748748That man has psychosis. Mo has never once even had high tier gun damage in this game. Always been pretty mediocre, despite the fact that it has only ever been buffed. Humiliation fetishist are gross retards who will do anything for attention.
>>543749272here you go.i guess i probably shouldn't engage with the schizos that think actually clicking on someone's post and "giving them a (you)" is some kind of personal loss.last one you're getting at least.
>>543749358You can literally check older dps charts to see that you're wrong.
>>543749390show me then
>Be Me, God's gift to combat>Beat the fuck out of Bebop>Summon Patron>Wish for Ms Shelley to be healthy>Tell that faggot clanker "You're welcome">Fuck my wife Ivy after
>>543749390https://deadlock.wiki/Mo_%26_Krill/Update_historyhis gun was only changed in the last patch and it was buffed by some marginal percentage.you people are literally crazy.
>>543749098doesn't her gun have weird rev-up properties? might be why if so, plus none of her abilities really augment or work off of her shooting ability
>>543749537You know other heroes have their guns changed too right?
>>543749536nah, the real Lash would wish for a magic restraining order on Vyper
>>543749991>>543749536Lash would wish for Ms Shelley to be perfectly healthy and young and to fall in love with him so he can marry her and bebop has to call him dad.
>>543750212Unless they were on the same team. Lash would wait for Bebop to go first then wish That she believed Lash cured her instead
>>543750474Considering her attitude towards Geist when she offers to cure her by passing on Oathkeeper that might actually work out better for Bebop
>>543747619>>543748002>mirage gun is abosulte abysmal dumpster teir>people still only build him full gun
>bebop wishes for Miss Shelly to be healthy>lash wishes for her to be white and pretends bebop did it>lash accuses bebop of being racist
>>543750919>>people still only build him full gunNA players are not people
>>543751574seven
>>543751574No, seriously I think Doorman is literally character designed to tilt blacks
>>543752152>Classy>Polite>Full of compromise>IntelligentHe is everything they will never be after all
>>543747891I believe
>>543751574Canonically its gotta be the doorman, its 1940. Who do you think he is opening the door for? Ill tell you who it aint. Let's just say infernus is lucky he can make fire cause he is stuck out in the coldOther contenders are abrams/holiday/warden for being in law enforcement
>>543701461>THE GAMES ARE FUN WHEN GOOD PLAYERS AREN'T HERE!Why don't you kill yourselves and go play a different game. Deadlock is not for you. Maybe you can come back if they ever release a PvE mode but if you're gonna bitch about good players then you aren't ever going to improve and i've seen this countless times. I remember people who were in the original inhouses who are still here, at the exact same skill level now. 0 improvement hundreds of games later.
They should make shadoweave a 3.2k so its an actual choice between veilwalker
>>543752518I think it's a troll who isn't even in the inhouse games because those guys weren't even on the same team last night
>>543752518>THE GAMES ARE FUN WHEN GOOD PLAYERS AREN'T HERE!This but unironically
>>543752656On demand stealth vs conditional stealth for the same price hmm
>>543752656Shadoweave is a shit item. It needs way better passive stats to be worth 6400
>>543752851There is plenty of items already like that, on demand damage vs conditional damageJust give the conditional slightly higher values
New item: shrimpyReduces your bullet and spirit resist but shrinks your model down to half the sizeAlso add new tiny vents to the map that shrimpies.can run through
>>543753010I think we are in that moment where its actually not shit but everyone is anchored mentally to previous iterations and it will get overturned next10 regen is nuts early on and the ambush bonus is also pretty stacked. They should definitely make the ambush apply on animation tho so you can just use spells from stealth instead of having to m1 once first. >>543753183Make it a hero instead, every kill/assi5 makes him bigger and every death makes him smaller
>>543753183Fucking god dammit I love it anon.
>>543753183Funny idea but when you consider how much harder it already is to shoot characters like mina and paige this would just be absurd
Mina having a low winrate but high pickrate actually makes her a huge success in design
>>543669825Cool edit nigga
>>543755472her low win rate is caused by her high pick rateif she wasn't a cute girl she would have a disgusting win rate
how do i get good
>>543746672thx kind stranger, you will get my upvote!
>>543755568I dont think that's 100% accurate, back when haze had a 90% pickrate she also was putting up good winratesI think she's just a difficult hero but people don't mind it and play her anyways. They focus on how they misplayed instead of blaming the team
>>543755671Practice
>>543755889the difference is that Haze is incredibly easy to play and Mina is the hardest hero to play in the game
>>543756130also, people generally don't play hard heroesthey play Mina because she's hot and disregard that they can't play her properly
>>543755671Its 20% catching every wave +sinners and 80% winning the midfight. Everything else is marginal
Capacitor shouldn't remove bridge buff and I say this as a capacitor enjoyer. I can just ignore this objective entirely which is dumb
>>543756130Good one
>>543756424>>543756424>>543756424
>>543732591>He rode into human mans town and brought creep mans law
>>543739315>FISH KILL!
>>543742580>144% damage increaseAre you seriously straight up adding the fire rate % to the gun damage % to calculate damage increase?
>>543749596the heal increases her firerate by a whopping 33%, combine that with healing tempo (+40% and movespeed) and some ammo and damage items and you have one hell of a gun on a surprisingly mobile character (thanks to all the movespeed in gun items)
>>543747994it literally goes from mid to 3rd highest
