Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E >Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w >Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs>DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66xlk >PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4s>Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFwhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG >Dissidia Duelum Final Fantasyhttps://youtu.be/zLM7V3jrNNc >Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE >Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>543419657
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
MtG collab was good news (FF getting recognition and praise and money)Dissidia gacha is bad news
>>543759659>>543759719Based
>>543759719>gacha is bad newsMakes you wonder why we still have 3 EoS gacha in the OP then
Reminder:Only children and people that haven't grown mentally pass highschool have a problem with the "extra lore" of the Masamune
>>543759659BASED FIRST POST
>>543759829>>543759659Finally good posts
>>543759829Every time someone bitches about the sword or the Gi tribe, it's clear they just haven't paid attention or understood the information, or they feel it contradicts the misinformation they assumed about the original. That's why nobody here was able to give a single example of expanded FF7 lore not making sense in universe.
>>543759659More people need to read this before posting
>>543759946Agree
>>543759829>>543759946This
>>543759946This tracks
>>543759829>>543759659Why these posts make the resident shitposter so angry?
/ffg/ has devolved into elontwitter where someone says something retarded and you have people/the same poster immediately reply like a drone agreeing with them.
>>543759829>>543759946Correct>>543760229If someone says something retarded it should be easy to prove them wrong. Try that instead of just complaining about drones.
>>543760343>replies like a drone with no substance, probably to one of his own poststhank you for proving me right
>>543760430>with no substanceAnon you didn't even say what you were crying about. Nobody proved you right because nobody knows your opinion.
>>543759829>>543759946I agree... and yet I'm angry. What gives?
>>543760570see >>543760229
>>543760686Scanning for FF related opinion... nope, can't see it. So much for "substance"
Parivir/Geomancy or Parivir/Dual Wield?
>>543760672Just stay away from an nearby television set and you'll be fine.
Final Fantasy is back.
...no follow up kekaroo? You're slipping, friend.
>>543760672Gottem
>>543759829>>543759946If I had a counterpoint I'd post it
>>543760907why geomancy? parivir is from FFTA2 right, i dont remember it doing magic damage
>>543762343Because it's fun?
>>543763185I dont see the fun in upping magic damage on a character that doesnt use magic damage
>>543733285
>>543762343Parivir has elemental techniques.Geomancy lowers opponents' elemental weakness (normal -> weak).
>>543760229>seething about extra masamune loreGrow up
Which Final Fantasy character is trans-coded?
As an OG fan (I played it in 2019 before Remake) this game has been EVERYTHING I've wanted and more.This is exactly what a proper video game remake should be, both in graphics, artstyle, realism, and gameplay.
>>543759590Square Enix should make a Star Wars game
>>543759659It's true. It's COMPLETELY true.
>>543759659Yep.>>543759829Yup.>>543759946Eeeeeyup.
>>543759659>>543759719>>543759829>>543759946Simple as
>>543759659A lesson many may ignore, but need to be said nonetheless.
The people demand that XIII be revived.
>>543779904Is this him? Have we found the fatherless?
Remember: you're not powerless against off topic shitpost spam. You can so something about it with one simple trick.
>>543780390Indeed, we're not powerless against the fatherless. All it takes is a few words to anger it.
>>543781890We're talking about you
Before you make negative remarks about Naoki Yoshida, FFXIV, or FFXVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.
>>543781890You struck a nerve. He lashed out instantly.
>>543784319meant for >>543782782
>>543780189>>543781890>>543784319You shitposted so many times in the previous threads mods had to nuke the entire thing. It's time to consider spending your time another way.
>>543780189It's him.
>It actually was completely nukedSuch devastation...
>>543784769Oh shit you're right, the whole thread got purged
>>543761157Her new character models look awesome, both Duellum and Ever Crisis.There is no world in which we aren't getting that Remaster. It's just a matter of time.
>>543784769holy shit its true lol
>>543779904Posting an innocuous FF opinion about FFXIII has put a target on the back of both you and that Twitter profile you posted...Where do you get off having a neutral to positive opinion on FFXIII? Don't you know how upsetting that is?
>>543759659It's so simple. Why are so many people unable to do this?
>>543784769>It's realGood lord. Now watch as various boogie men get blamed in rapid succession, all to deflect from the clearly obvious perpetrator(s)
>>543780390>Shitposters HATE him for discovering how to save /ffg/ with this one weird trick!
Final Fantasy feet
>>543785791Lightning's big fat butt on my face
As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Matsuno, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, or Sakaguchi we will be fine.I think the official opinion is still that we hate the Dissidia mobile games despite their connection to Nomura, but we love Ever Crisis now because Lightning. Stay tuned to see how this new rule develops.
When will Yoshida create his own video game?
>>543789403Meds don't take themselves
>>543789403New Masamune lore goodNew Buster Sword lore bad*(*subject to change)
>>543789115Lightnings skinny little athletic butt is more than enough for me.
FFXIII-3 when?
Wait till he finds out that Lightning was in Opera Omnia.
New lore....bad...Old lore....good...?
>>543790557Lightning is very, very cute in Opera Omnia. Everyone knows that the art is cute. Seems like a fun FF mobile game. It's a shame I never got the chance to play it, since a lot of people here say a lot of good things about it.I think maybe you have me confused with someone else that you've had an argument with in the past. But unfortunately, I have nothing negative to say about OO
>>543790568Anything that I can use to complain about my enemies is good.Anything that makes my enemies happy is bad.
>>543791056My enemies are always upset, and that's a good thing. If everyone simply spoke only correct opinions, we wouldn't have this problem.
Fun fact: XIII is a better game and FF than XVI.
Final Fantasy images and discussion is goodOff topic trolling and shitposting is bad
"The Masamune's blade has an organic quality to it" > ~ Aerithfag, /ffg/
>>543789507He is not a creatorHe is a businessman
The masamune being part of jenova is actually a cool idea since it reminds of the frostmourne and sephiroth is Jenova knightLittle did she know, Sephiroth came to overpower her eventually
>>543790456Honestly that could work. 6 characters to play, new combat roles, brand new unique weapons, Rebirth combat with Paradigms and up to 6 ATB bars, Launching and juggling, new Hamauzu and Mizuta tracks, colorful sci fi and cyberpunk alongside luscious green environments...Card games riding on the Lindblum with Vanille...beach date with Vanille...
>>543792118I forgot to also add, that makes Sephiroth a bigger threat because Jenova tried to control Sephiroth but Sephiroth overpowered hermakes sense
>>543792118I didn't like it at first, and I told people that it was obviously a joke by Nomura and that they're being ridiculous for believing it, but as time went on and as it was confirmed to be true, I began to realize the genius of it.
>>543791331Many seem to be coming to this conclusion.
>>543791760>>543792118>>543792253We like the organic Masamune quality here and there are no arguments to suggest otherwise. The sword phases in and out of reality at will alongside it's wielder. Sephiroth is astral projecting, but yet his sword is still cutting.It's obviously magic, and Sephiroth's magic has always been entirely organic.
>>543791331nah
>masamune is organicDoes that mean this bitch was raped to death?KWAB
>>543792574Jesus, anon. Seek him
>>543792157I can see her feet
>>543792534>there are no arguments to suggest otherwiseExactly. When it was first announced I told everyone that it was obviously a joke by Nomura and that all of my enemies are being ridiculous for believing it. One of my biggest enemies even began looking into the lore himself, and he started posting with information about it here ahead of the official reveal, and I told him he was a schizo shitposting Aerithfag who doesn't understand words, even though that guy was only quoting Nomura's exact phrasing. Anyway, now that it's confirmed via Tetsuya Nomura's canon gacha game, Ever Crisis, and especially now that Ever Crisis is going to have Lightning in it, I love this bit of lore, and I tell everyone that no one ever had any qualms with it possibly being true, especially not VIIR's biggest defender - me. I still don't like the head canon and unconfirmed head canon that X and VII take place in the same universe, but I'm very excited to see how Lightning fits into the Ever Crisis picture.
>>543792537yeah
>>543792937big if this actually happened.
>>543792937>>543792937>When it was first announced I told everyone that it was obviously a joke by-PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFQO'WRUJIO0QFJUAIO9SFHJA9UIOI just shat on your longer than necessary post with your namefagging and insecurities, jimbo.
>>543793106Now that we all love the organic Masamune, does it even really matter what happened in the past? Remember the Whispers?
>>543793192>does it even really matter what happened in the pastso you can't prove it...
>>543793179>with your namefagging and insecurities, jimboIronic. And wrong, but mostly ironic.
>>543792742FF has cute feet. It would be natural to assume that XIII-3 would have the cutest feet.>>543792937You seem to have taken someones words (from a long time ago) very, very personally. So personally, you've begun falseflagging as that person who hurt you, in order to beg for attention and shitpost relentlessly an imaginary position, every single time the thread is discussing something positively, in order to shut it all down.This is why I coined that name of Limbo. A shitposter that bends over backwards to shitpost, like a game of limbo. How low, can you go? How low, can you go? Like Jimbo, yet you only take L's....
No one has ever been so angry about new VIIR lore that they called Tetsuya Nomura himself an Aerithfag (derogatory) while implying that he's an idiot.
>>543791331Not a high bar
>>543759829>>543759946I think it's more important than ever that we reflect on these words.
So someone called him an Aerithfag (derogatory) and he got so mad about this, he decided he would shitpost about it in every single thread for the rest of his daysIs that what happened here? Being called an Aerithfag is THAT much of an insult?
>>543793586Ohhh, so your new nickname namefaggotry is something that you think was meant for me. Just so you know, you've never actually referred to me as your new namefaggot nickname, it was always someone else. I don't understand why you always turn everything into namefag theatre either. You seem to do this every time someone starts talking about Final Fantasy, especially if it's about VIIR lore.
Aerithfags....is your existence derogatory?
>>543793586>Like Jimbo, yet you only take L'sThat's honestly so fucking good. Bravo.
>>543794182nice cute ass
>>543793889It's a good thing that this never actually happened and that no one ever asks to prove that it didn't happen.
You guys really like VII, huh?
>>543794117Yet....you seem to be the only person in the entire general getting mad at the sight of LimboAnd you post garbage here every single day, while embarrassing yourself to extremely absurd degrees. Jimbo but all L's, no J's.>>543794209How low, will he go?How low, will he go?>>543794291Hell yeah. We love Aeris here. I do think someone here really doesn't though >543792574
>>543794459Show me one person here who doesn't.And the best part is it's always getting better. Everything they add to the lore makes sense in universe and improves the story.
>>543794459I love whatever is officially confirmed to be in VIIR. Unfortunately, my enemies are very often correct while I am always wrong. When this occurs, I just pretend it didn't happen.
We hate XVI here.
The only person who could ever possibly want to talk about VIIR's lore is my mortal enemy, whom I have given a pet name to. No actual fan would ever want to talk about the lore of VIIR. That's how I know it's him. The worst part is, he's been right about everything, and I've been defending VIIR's honor this whole time from things that turned out to be true.
One true love and kissu hug! Canon and cute!
>>543794459I only like VII and XIII, so I make sure to post those here A LOT
>>543794459You got two snarky and ironic shitposts in response instantly. Both seemingly from people who very much dislike FFVII and wish to troll it, instead of tell you their true opinion. They are dedicated to falseflagging and shitposting about FFVII here and on /v/ on a daily basis. There are many, many people on this website who openly despise FFVIIR.Personally I've deeply enjoyed both new games to the fullest in their own unique ways, and eagerly await the conclusion. Final Fantasy is very fun and I love it. VII was the perfect storm of JRPG design decisions, and so it sits near the top of the mountain in my eyes. The new VIIR in my opinion though, sits at the top of the "modern" JRPG totem poleFinal Fantasy VII as an entity does have a lot of sludge and cringe to wade through, though. And I believe that in the "cringe", we often find the true "soul". We must embrace the cringe if we are to truly live our best life.
Why is FFXIII-3 called Lightning Returns?
Jimbo here. I think I've just figured out why my number 1 fan thinks I dislike Remake. 90% of the posts on /ffg/ are someone pretending to have the opinions of their enemies, posting opinions they don't like as sarcastically as possible. You've all seen it, it's happening right now. It's always happening. It's a bitter plague here that makes me wonder if /ffg/ could survive for a whole 24 hours of everyone being honest and saying their own opinions instead of their enemies opinions. Anyway I think what's happened is every time I spoke about Remake and Rebirth positively, which is basically every time I've mentioned them, and my fan has read those posts and assumed I was doing the sarcastic thing, since that's all he does all day. What several of you do all day, I think. And it's probably impossible to convince him I was being honest. (He's probably already typed his reply - and needless to say it won't be one of reflection.) That's my best guess anyway. It's hard to make sense of him. I liked Remake and I liked Rebirth even more. That's the honest truth. One of the few honest things said here.Anyway, as you were.
>>543795539>JRPG design decisions>looks inside>Ubisoft towers
>>543795586I loved Remake. But I loved Rebirth even more. And I don't need to talk about what I post or what my opinions are. They speak for themselves.And so do yours, Big Guy.
>>543795586A gentleman and a chad as always. Truly one of the only good posters in this shithole.
>>543795771Stay cool brother. I'm glad to see more Lightning on the horizon.>>543795992Thanks anon. It's not actually hard to just post earnestly instead of living like a red hot pot of boiling water who posts about posters they hate instead of what they think about games.
>>543795586>That's my best guess anyway. It's hard to make sense of him. I liked Remake and I liked Rebirth even more. That's the honest truth. One of the few honest things said here.dudeyou wrote this>And yet it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All they want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. You could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and they'd like it, because they get more time with the characters. At some point they became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is DoC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
>>543795741Anon, Final Fantasy VII does not have towers. FFVIIR does, though. I understand if you really don't like them, too. I'd recommend walking past them to address this issue, as they are a time saver, and not an essential mechanic. This does not remove them from the game, no. But it can allow you a bit of peace of mind. The game can still be explored naturally>>543796278>I'm glad to see more Lightning on the horizon.That's gonna be a MEGA BASED from me, partner.
>>543793041nope
>>543796641Proof?
>>543796756yup
>>543795586Every positive post about VIIR that I've ever seen on /ffg/ that did not personally come from me is actually someone who hates it, whom I have named and also nicknamed. That's why every time there's a new lore drop, I work to prevent people from speaking about it; I know it's just shitposters who are laughing at me. However, once the new lore is truly confirmed to be in the game, I pretend that it never happened and that I always liked this lore tidbit. After all, anything in the game is something that I will like, and anything not officially confirmed in the game is something that my enemies are taunting me with.
You also post thisYou need to get into theorycrafting youtube. Stop caring about the story being "good" or "bad" and watch people talk about the lore for a few hours.Soon you won't actually care what is happening in the plot anymore and all that matters is what it adds to the lore.For example Nero showing up in Remake is not good for the story, but it IS good for the lore and the theories.Once you're a fan of FF7 theorycrafting literally everything that happens in the story, no matter what, is good - because it expands the lore. You can apply this to all the FF games and suddenly "bad writing" or "plotholes" simply disappear.
>>543796860fraid not
>>543796641>dude>you wrote thisOhnononono.....Detective anon....don't do that....please drop the case already.It went cold long, long ago.
>>543796934I agree with all of this. What's the issue?
>>543796641>dude>you wrote thisNo I didn't. Have you any proof of that? I doubt it. I doubt you even have a theory that sounds like it makes sense. You're just doing your classic shtick of pointing to any post from anywhere, any site, any time, and baseless claiming I was behind it.Go ahead and tell everyone how you "know" I wrote that without sounding insane. That would be very impressive.
>>543796754All criticisms of FFVIIR are invalid because you can just ignore all the parts of the game(s) that you don't like.
>>543797053If you havent, then what the fuck are you doing here? you are not jimbo. Kill yourself you stupid faggot.
>>543796641>>543796893>>543797074That's right. I say this a lot.
>>543796893Limbo...you've gone low enough.
>>543797154What's your proof that he wrote that post? C'mon, you have everyone's attention. You can destroy him now.
>>543796934I agreed with this post, until Nomura dropped the lore about the Masamune having an organic quality to it. Exactly when that happened, I began angrily posting at someone who posted lore videos about Ever Crsis and what it was doing with the Masamune. However, as time went on, and as it is now confirmed in canon that the Masamune's blade has an organic quality to it, I wish to move past this event and act as if it never happened.
>>543796934That's based and true
>>543797274If you didnt post, then why are you calling yourself jimbo? whats your proof that you are?
>>543796942fraid so
>dude you replied to a 8 hour old post, what a loser lmao!>also here's every post from several years ago from other boards that I memorized and have stayed angry at every day since
>>543797403I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I've been called Yojimbo dozens, maybe even a hundred times. We're all Yojimbo, if you really think about it.
what are we even talking about?
>>543797634>I'm not the guy you're replying toThen dont waste my time, my man.
I hope this all serves as definitive, final proof to all the shitposters out there.The Jimbo crusader is not me.
>>543797403>answering a question with a questionOh dear.Again, have you any proof that I wrote any of these? Or that I'm behind all the accounts you've claimed to be mine? No. All you can do is keep throwing every post that has ever made you mad from every corner of the net for the past 5 years while pretending I'm responsible for them.
>>543797643My enemy wanted to talk about VIIR's lore, so now I must prevent that from happening via any means necessary.
>>543797818see >>543797673
>>543797634>We're all YojimboIt's true. All you have to do is post something positive, brutally honestly, and then watch the fireworks.
>>543797643Everyone is once again trying to explain to Detective Joe (Snr) that he wasted 5 years of his life being mad about nothing.
>>543797434negative
>>543797818Are you the one that "joked" about tidus being in part 3 way back in the day? If not, then you are not jimbo. Simple as.>yes i am that onethen you wrote the other falseflags. Because thats what you have been doing for years. Thats how you behave, thats how you type, for years. Spending all day every day bumping threads, replying to yourself.
>>543797923I had no idea that just being honest would be the life ruining thing it turned out to be. I don't know how to help this guy with his trauma.
>>543797820good plan
>>543798049Just out of interest, do you have a single example of this oh-so-terrible villain of /ffg/ saying anything bad about Remake or Rebirth on /ffg/? Ideally within the past... four years?And if not why the fuck are you crying about him here daily?
V-A-N-I-L-L-E-?
>>543798128The real whammy comes when you're honest... and right. This makes some people VERY angry. They'll never admit it though, because defending a game from discussion that turns out to be true would mean that *they* are the fake fan and shitposter.
>>543798049>"joked"Are you really implying it WASN'T a joke? Man you are very autistic, no wonder it pissed you off if you took it 100% seriously
>>543798284>Just out of interestare you >>543795586>no, butThen dont waste my time, man. Dont defend shitposters, its not worth it. Unless hes paying you of course, but i doubt it.
>>543798030positive
>>543798402The man who made this image was NOT joking, he was being serious. He was insulting Nomura san!
>>543798284yeah, see >>543796641 and >>543796934
If Tidus appeared with Lifestream Zack and Aerith in Part 3, that would be valid within the continuity and canon of the worlds of both X and VII.
/ffg/ could survive for a whole 24 hours of everyone being honest and saying their own opinions instead of their enemies opinions.It begins and ends with POSTING some fuckin HEROINES you god damn swine.
>>543798397I have to admit it's funny that the only thing I've said FF opinion wise here is that I liked Remake and Rebirth, and it kicked off a melty that's big even for /ffg/ standards
>>543798573And when were these posted on /ffg/ last? And what proof do you have that I was behind them?
>>543798609Factually true but some people just love to complain and show they dont know anything about the world of the games they claim to love
>>543798725I hate when people disagree with me, but I hate even more when other people's opinions are the same as my own. They're just being dishonest and saying things to rile me up. The only person I've ever agreed with is myself.
>>543798397>defending a game from discussion that turns out to be true would mean that *they* are the fake fan and shitposter.I am somehow reminded of the XVI 'fan' who admitted he didn't own the PS5.
>>543795586Holy based. Your number one fan immediately hit the fucking roof.The crime? Enjoying final fantasy and encouraging honest discussion.
>>543798357>desperately trying to bypass the ffg filter
>>543798413nein
>>543799164Well, opinion is different than fact. It's a very thin line to walk, and sometimes it's easy to think that one's own opinion *is* a fact when it isn't. It's an easy trap to fall into. However, I was talking about very concrete and unambiguous things where people are capable of being objectively wrong or objectively right, such as the Whispers returning in Part 2 or Sephiroth's Masamune being organic being real and not a joke... and the probable next logical leap, that Angeal's Buster Sword has some sort of anti-Jenova properties. I can understand where you're coming from though, sometimes we can think that opinions can be factual when we spend all day agreeing with ourselves.
>>543799347Vanille. Vanille Vanille VanilleOerba dia Vanille.Vanille Vacation, Vanille Volleyball. Vanille Vulva.
>>543799597When the game you love is objectively great (fact) it leaves very little room for others opinions, be they negative, neutral or even positive.
>>543799773Now that's a fact I can get behind.
How come every time the detective snaps and decides to present the evidence he's been compiling for all these years it never makes any sense
>>543799985Only a therapist or a police report could explain that
>>543799773>When the game you love is objectively great (fact) it leaves very little room for others opinionsAnd what's the correct way to respond to someone who has never even played 'the game they love'? Ridicule?
>>543799417ja
>>543799985He's been using this time to gather tons of very embarrassing and damning information, but he is saving the big reveal for Part 3.
Bait is boringPost a girl instead
>>543798609>>543798983Wrong.
I'm still confused how the Briana fag of eld got banned multiple times for avatarfagging, by posting Briana only a few times, but this guy attaches Lightning (or now, Vanille) to most of his posts and he's never been banned for avatarfagging.
>>543800625Can't wait to see "this comment I found on a car mechanics forum that says advent children is badly written was him, I just know it. how? because I just do."
>>543801110Nicely explained
>>543801224This guy?>>543780390It's working. He's already trying to behave himself.
>>543801224>post Tifa, Lightning, Aerith, Vanille, Yuffie and other heroines in the Final Fantasy thread on a daily basis>BAN HIM BAN HIM BAN HIM BAN HIMYou've got to get off my nuts. Here, have a Jill.
>>543801110>confirmed via X-2>confirmed via Ultimania>confirmed via Kitase >confirmed via VIIR
>>543801224How do images of ff girls stop you discussing final fantasy? Maybe you dont come here to discuss final fantasy at all
>>543801651I think it's cool. I don't know why some boring types try invalidate it.
>>543801758What? How do like 2 or 3 images of Aerith's voice actress prevent you from discussing Final Fantasy? It always seemed odd to me that he'd get banned for sometimes 1 fucking image, and it's even weirder now that we actually have an avatarfag.
>>543798889Surprisingly, I feel like no one is going to answer this.
>>543801943You could talk about ff right now if you wanted. But you want to talk about other posters instead.
>>543802027Yeah I'm not holding my breath
>>543802047I don't understand why you insist on doing this weird melt down you're doing right now so often.
>>543801943Lmfao anon who hurt you? I promise it wasn't me. Now watch me post Briana White, you dumbass!
>>543801224>posting 3D on 4chandeserved it
>>543802162>>543802047
Wood berry
>>543802191>Lmfao anon who hurt you? I promise it wasn't me. Now watch me post Briana White, you dumbass!You're weirdly overreacting to a genuine question. We used to have a guy who'd come in here, post Briana like 2 or 3 times, and get banned for it. Sometimes he'd even post her one (1) time and get banned for it. Meanwhile, we've got some chronic shitposter now who actually, literally avatarfags with Lightning, and yet he's never been banned for avatarfagging. It just doesn't make any sense. The Briana banning never made any sense, and I never really felt as if he was "avatarfagging", but this guy we have now is clearly avatarfagging and nothing ever happens to him.
>someone got mad at shitposts on /v/ 5 years ago>they spend the next 5 years obsessively bitching about them on /vg/ even though the shitposts were never hereI wonder how common this is
>>543801110>>543801651X-2 added it as a fun jokeSE decided to run with it and make it "canon"It cheapens both games and makes their worlds smaller
>>543802447I'm here to tell you.....we don't care.
>>543802634My enemies follow me wherever I go, and they are always where I go looking for them.
>>543802724>It cheapens both games and makes their worlds smallerIn your opinion. I think it adds to both.
>>543802724This is the same opinion I have as well. Of course, if Part 3 actually includes some connection to X, perhaps if Tidus showed up at some point, then I'd probably be able to see the genius of it after enough time had passed, and I'd ask that no one remember all the times I defended my favorite game from honest discussion which all turned out to be true.
So /ffg/....How do images of FF girls stop you from discussing?
XVI is still a bad game, unfortunately.
>>543803289Irrefutable, I'm afraid.
>>543803028I have a lot of great opinions that somehow end up being objective truths to be spammed obsessively whenever I see an objectively incorrect opinion here.Sometimes I'll spam them even when nobody asked.
>>543803395Did the VIIR fan shit in your cereal or something
>>543803289Forever wishing it was a fuckin RPG with party mechanics and a blue Command window. I'm a simple man, it didn't need to be FFXII. It just needed something, anything to hold on to.
Personally, I liked VIIR. Now, did I like all parts of VIIR? No, of course not. No one liked the Whispers until they came back in Rebirth and we became contractually obligated to like them. No one likes Ubisoft towers either, and there is such a thing as too many minigames and too much bloat. But overall, I did like it. So far.
>Limbo is still crashing out
this triggers the entire general
>>543804363The plain and honest truth was always his worst enemy. Well, second worst enemy. I'm still number 1 for whatever reason.
>>543804523OUR FUCKIN HEROOEESSSand Clive
So let me get this straight, there's an elusive shitposter named Jimbo who apparently shitposts 7R and other VII-related projects from the shadow, and he has a rival shitposter who's named Limbo? Who the fuck writes this?
We do not appreciate honest opinions here if they are unapproved. We value correct and approved opinions only. However, if you agree with me too much, well now you're shitposting.
>>543803289nah
>>5438046844chan is serious business
>>543804684>Who the fuck writes this?Well, there's only one person here who turns everything into namefag theatre, and he has a revolving door of bogeymen whom he invokes.
>>543803825
>the coolest and most handsome character in the game is not a playable party memberI would literally buy a XVI-2 cash grab if it had playable Joshua/Jill/Cid.
>>543804523I liked all of those gamesbut I enjoyed the 10/10 FFXVI the most.
When you learn that the VII Remake was inspired by the live action remake of Beauty and the Beast, a lot of things in Rebirth start making more sense.
>>543805574XVI has some of the highest peaks, but also the lowest lows in the series. The MMO sidequest design and lack of any interactivity was absurd, worse than any corridor in XIII or any fetch quest from XV. I still can't forgive them for gutting out the party mechanics that I know and love.But in the end, I think we can all agree that it does have great music and hype moments.
>>543805773Cringe Hamaguchi put that slop in the gamemeanwhile Chad Nomura put The Greatest Showman in Rebirthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QskW_S15TfI
>>543806184Correct. Everything that anyone likes about the VII Remake was done by Nomura, and all the things that people might not like as much was done by someone else.
>>543803395>opinions that somehow end up being objective truths to be spammedprophetic
>>543804684Anon, I made things very clear here: >>543795586And the guy who claims I'm behind any 7R shitposting disappeared when asked to explain why he thinks I wrote them. Not to mention they all seem to be old /v/ posts instead of anything from here.You'd have to be a chump to believe his nonsensical claims.
>>543804523OUR HEROES...and nocpiss
>>543805574>>543806108>XVI has some of the highest peaksCorrect>worse than any corridor in XIIIIncorrect>or any fetch quest from XVDefinitely Incorrect>I still can't forgive them for gutting out the party mechanics that I know and loveFair enough>we can all agree that it does have great music and hype momentsAbsolutely
>>543806586>>543759659
>>543759659Unsurprisingly, ignoring this has led to another shit thread.
weird how you didn't feel the need to call out this poster >>543804647 but leapt at the chance to do so for >>543806586
I like when someone chimps out and makes a lot of accusations that make no sense before disappearing. Then an hour later a new guy shows up, looks around, and says "damn, I just got here but look at all these accusations that make perfect sense! no follow up questions please, I'm new"
>>543807007Usually what happens on /ffg/ is that I try to talk about something I do like, and one of two things will happen. Either someone will tell me for hours that my opinion is wrong, to the point that he'll spiral off and start replying to himself about how much I'm shitposting long after I stopped caring about engaging with him, or someone will tell me for hours that I'm false flagging and that I don't really think that because only his personal enemy would say things that he might agree with at least a little bit. I don't even think it's possible to talk about Final Fantasy here.
>>543806184Rebirth completely mogged Remake in almost all ways. But the game was directed by Hamaguchi. Seems to conflict with your shitpost...>>543806447I think our good old Jimbo detective needs to come clean and admit that it's over and he was just wrong. Hang up those boots. It's cringe to constantly get upset about shitposters of VIIR when you can report and ignore them. But I think the existence of continuous, daily VIIR shitposts means that he's always got another new little wound that he has to dress emotionally. It forces him to repeat the cycle endlessly. Whoever he is I hope he understands that it's just not worth it anymore. Every person who makes fun of VIIR isn't Jimbo or some other derivative. It's all just a joke, anyways. Like Tidus in part 3, or Shinra in X-2. It's all a bit of a goof.>>543806753There was great potential, and there was high budget. But the soul was missing, the cringe-kino of JRPGs was nowhere to be found. The whimsical, humorous nature of side content helps a dark and perhaps depressing main storyline to be far more palatable and is a major element in making Final Fantasy work. We'll just have to agree to disagree, XVI-kun
>>543807401I do think there are people here who are more like narrative maintainers than discussers. They don't want to talk about anything. They only want to monitor and tell people with the wrong opinions that they're wrong or shitposting. No more no less. This ensures the right narrative is maintained about "what /ffg/ thinks"
>>543807697>It's cringe to constantly get upset about shitposters of VIIR when you can report and ignore them.How do you report "wrongthink" or "people who agree with me"? Asking for a friend.
>>543807697you didn't even do the sidequests, how would you know?
>>543807697I too think he needs to let go, but it would be nice to see him - just once - TRY to explain why he thinks everything he doesn't like is my fault. Why did he think I was the one commenting on that livestream he was watching? Completely unhinged assumption that only tells us how much I occupy his mind. The only thing I've learned from this recent melty is he genuinely seems to believe the Tidus in part 2 joke wasn't a joke at all. Which is very funny.
>>543807697>Every person who makes fun of VIIR isn't Jimbo or some other derivative.It's very brave of you to finally admit this.
>>543808092So many screenshots and opinons but they/them didn't do the sidequests, DLC, Ultimaniac, nor Kairos Gate. Sad!
>>543807223But I didn't insult Clive, I just said he's not one of my heroes. I also posted a picture of him looking heroic. It's gonna be interesting to see once they all arrive in Dissidia what sorts of team compositions you can make with them.>>543808092Ohhhhh yes I did, buddy. Every, last, one of them.PAIN. It's fine if you liked them all or whatever. But uh....don't pretend that the people who don't like it didn't play it.>>543808210>Why did he think I was the one commenting on that livestream he was watching?KEK. My sides. I don't know man....I don't know. I think there's just a lot of commonalities with many peoples complaints on VIIR. But there's a lot of commonalities in peoples complaints/opinions when it comes to anything that has controversy surrounding it. It doesn't mean that the same person on a random livestream, is the same person on a Reddit account, is the same person who said they didn't like this or that on 4chan. Just address people face up for what they post here and now. The only thing that matters.>>543808329Why do you think I am the one arguing with Jimbo? Do you need him to tell you himself that's not true? Lol.
>>543808610I watched someone play part of Kiaros Gate, so I'm kind of an expert.
>>543808713>Why do you think I am the one arguing with Jimbo? Do you need him to tell you himself that's not true? Lol.I'm just saying, for someone who makes liberal use of pet names including the one mentioned like you do, it's brave of you to finally be able to admit that not every post you dislike was made by someone you have named even though you insist otherwise, and that the names you give people might actually be multiple persons, and you might not even know what their opinions are.
I bought and played the DLC as well, but I stopped once I came back to town after beating Leviathan and they dumped like 5 or 6 more sidequests on me in Mysidia. Nope, I was done.
>>543807697Thought this was MGS5 for a second lol
The only sidequests I like are ones with minigames or a checklist involved.
Aerisu!
>>543809338kek based stillbirth fan
How do we fix FFXVI?
>>543809946There's nothing to fix about the 10/10 FFXVI.Any improvements would just end up making it 11/10.
just finished FF 7Remake and idk, should I play original now or Rebirth? good game but these fucking ghosts sucks ass.
>>543796641This one seems to have angered you more than any other. Something about it must pinch a deep nerve.
>>543809946Anabella Rosfield should have been the main character.
>>543810134Don't worry, they're gone now. That was the entire point of remake.
>>543810134They're not in Rebirth anymore, if that was your problem with it. Killing them *was* the point of Remake.
>>543809085I think you, similarly to our detective friend, are taking a joke a bit too seriously. Like, you're taking jokes on 4chan way, way too seriously, 'Limbo'. Keep bending backwards to shitpost about other peoples imaginary opinions though over and over and over again, while ignoring every single positive interaction that I've had with Big Guy in this very thread, right in front of your eyes.>>543809338MMO sidequest spam where you do absolutely nothing gameplay wise but go to location and then sit and listen to NPC's talk? That's not very good.Single player sidequests that are each tied to a unique party members story and personality that includes a unique form of interactivity as well as worthwhile reward? That's pretty good.Feel free to disagree with this or write your own opinions next time, instead of "pretending to have the opinions of your enemies" like Big Guy so plainly stated.>>543809946If I or anyone else replies to this post with real ideas then we could get in trouble, people are gonna be angry. Do you really want that to happen? Because that's what would happen.
>>543810279>>543810317no, they're not gone
>>543810402Why are you trying to lose SE a Rebirth sale?
the more "unique forms of interactivity" the betterthat's why Rebirth's 99 different minigames and ubisoft content make it such a great game
>>543810279>>543810317>>543810402still, is OG better game (and also it's finished)? or I should just play rebirth and fuck boomers
>>543810402They are. That was the whole point. Are you saying Remake was pointless?
>>543810605OG is a much better and complete game.play Rebirth and Crisis Core for fun after.
>>543759590>>543761157>>543784769>>543786161>>543759719>not even dissida, cunny, lightning cultists, rebirth defenders, xv-chan, Yojimbo, Yoshida butthurt, JP gachas, or the XIII collab in EC can save /ffg/ (died twice in one month)>>543759659FPBP
>>543810605Better than XVI for sure.
>>543811021Not a high bar to clear.
>>543790975Be careful, the rebirth fanboy who also seems to like XIII might backstab you for making this post.
>>543811021nah
>>543810320I did make multiple posts about improving XVI but the XVI hater said my desires for improving it was just a "wishlist". It had combat fixes, bigger levels, reworked rewards, etc. The same shitposter who spams the "human being" posts and always seethes over yoshida and such.
>>543811641Oh hey speak of the devil that very troon is here! Even phoneposted it's usual reply!>543811021>543811102
>>543783295Thank you. More people need to read this before posting.
>>543810279>>543810134>>543810317so organic
>>543811210I couldn't possibly know what you're talking about. Sorry. Maybe you should just post your OO, instead of proactively getting upset about posts that don't exist>>543811641So instead of writing any of those ideas, you complain that your ideas will be shot down by someone? Isn't that what I just said? Lol. Ahhh the Yoshida hater! Quick, he's behind you right now, run for your life!
>>543810575I couldn't have said it better myself. Hopefully Part 3 has even more unique forms of interactivity. I hope the Moogles make a return.
>>543812878But we gave Mog enough kupo nuts to fly in Rebirth. That was the entire POINT of Rebirth. Moogles will not return.
>>543812878ugly sonic energy
>>543813296>uglyOkay, Nomura hater.
>>543810605The fact is, you absolutely should play the original game. Now would probably be the perfect time to do it. Since you're young and not set in your ways, I recommend checking it out on PC with the 7th Heaven mod. Similar to Moguri Mod for FFIX, it allows for all kinds of updates and tweaks and mods to be downloaded and applied right from inside the launcher. I don't recommend changing anything substantial of course because you should experience the true game, but you should look into enabling all the technical patches like 60FPS and the updated camera controls, as well as just taking a quick look at some of the mods in the list, like updated HD UI options.
>>543813296It looks like a Koala bear or a plushie It was cute enough for me. My favorite is still FFXIII though, that Mog is absolutely perfect marshmallow floof. Rebirth tried to follow the style of the Moogle from the original FFVII summon, which had bigger open eyes like a teddie bear and a headband.
>>543814240I fucking hate that moogle from XIII tooworst moogles in the seriesyou have such shit taste
As long as it was in VIIR, I liked it.
>>543814240>>543814336I prefer the real Moogle
>>543814589Crisis Core is wrong, the VII moogles have always been ugly koalas
>>543814859Retard
Imagine thinking the shit on the left looks better than the masterpiece on the right.
>>543815732Unlike you we are not blind
>>543816173GOTTEM
>>543816173Based
>>543816173This
>>543816173BAH GAWD ALMIGHTYBAH GAWD ALMIGHTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJf9wrxcfAkHey anons, what's the joke about the "sinful children of Ivalice", and the "true believers" wanting to use the Auricite stones to cleanse them away from world in a tide of blood, and literally drowning a continent in war and blood to do so??"The Good Ones"Keyword.... "Sinful".https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KFgsSr1495k
>>5438099468 playable characters with unique elemental magic and attacks in each of their skill trees8 Jobs that are linked to each playable characters weapon type8 playable Summons that are linked to each playable characterEach of these major FF gameplay elements being in the game would necessitate significantly changing the story and progression, but you can simply fill in the blanks with whatever you need to. Enemy party members like Bene, Hugo and Barnabas would all turn on Ultima to join the heroes throughout the game during their own playable sections. Bene would bring Hugo and Clive would convince Barnabas. Characters like Bene and Barnabas can still die depending on how you reorient the plot. Have Hugos hands get cut off by Ultima instead. Cid still dies too.Each zones border now leads naturally into the next zone. The Fallen obelisks in each zone now function as the fast travel crystal to hop around, and you have to use a resource for it, you can't just click on the buttons on the map. Rowboats sit in specific areas at Ports that now take you back to the Hideout in a more seamless way, and when you leave the Hideout again you can choose to arrive at any previously discovered Port. The world map in the menu is now the hand drawn paper map from the game, and whenever you zoom in to the various areas to view them it immediately switches to reveal the local area map with lots of little hand drawn details, like what fiends roam there, if there's a cave, the names of the castles, what that hill is called, etc. Adding these mechanics like a party, RPG designs and a natural exploration loop will also lead to far more equipment to find, more systems and stats to define, an item economy to sustain the party health, mana and statuses, various Inns to rest, weapons and armor shops, Hunt board in every town that details the local Hunts, and far more enemies patrolling each zone.
>>543780390Amazing how this literally worked IMMEDIATELY
>>543815732>>543816173I'll take the Moogle that maybe doesn't look exactly the way I imagined that it would, but is still interactive, walks and talks like a Moogle, has a fun mini game to play, has memorable scenes in his quest line and honors the legacy of Mog the Moogle, over the static Moogle that does absolutely nothing except sit there in your Hideout next to the Hunt board, because they forgot to put Mog into the game and were forced at the final hour to shove the XIV Moogle in somewhere the player would see it.Discovering Mog's mushroom house out in the open world and playing a hyper cringey mini game full of human soul >>>>>>>>>>>> fake cardboard cutout Moogle that was mandated to be there
>>543818112Exactly. Everything about Rebirth is perfect.
>>543818112When I first say the moogles I was disappointed, but then I realised it was my own fault for imagining them a different way. What we got was the correct vision, and once I understood that, I saw how full of soul they were.
>>543815732>>543818112We managed to take even the unrelated moogle discussion and turn it into an XVI shitpost somehow. Nice.
>>543818208I didn't say that the Moogle was perfect. But it's sure as shit a better Moogle than XVI.It has nothing to do with appearances and everything to do with gameplay>>543818428Moogles are full of soul, period. But they don't get that acclaim and status by just sitting there, doing nothing.
>>543818538Moogles are full of souls, period, unless they are in a game that I don't like.
>>543818627Sad but true
The most important thing about a video game is the way my enemy feels about it
XIII-kun's ramblings are like some broken AI that must always mention XVI in a negative way when discussing literally any game.It's pretty funny to watch.
XIII-kun can't stop winning.
>>543817101ContMoogles that actually exist, not just one Moogle slapped in from XIV without a rhyme or reason. In my XVI, when the Hideaway children talk with you and ask you about Moogles and if they exist, they will actually feel like a mystery. You'll look around the world and see little references to them at the shop, the tavern, turn of phrase in the markets. But never see the Moogle itself. Then, when you finally do discover the little Moogle in a forest, it would be magical. You'd follow it, wander through a maze area that has a cute little teleportation gimmick when you reach a dead end, to find a group of Moogles. Then the Moogles would usher you to their hidden village. You do a super cute and soulful, funny side quest for them, with Clive, Jill and Torgal, where everyone is able to be silly. You'd receive an amazing secret reward, some sort of overpowered accessory. Equip it on Torgal. The quest would be some ways into the game, perhaps after Cid dies to help give you a moment of relief. It would seriously pay off all of the questions that were built up across the game about Moogles existence. When you return to the Hideaway, Clive would recount his encounter with Mog the Moogle to the children, who are all in awe, inspired and hopeful to one day make their own adventures. From that point on, a cute and potentially unique looking Moguri will be posted standing next to each towns Hunt board.
>>543789813more like this
>>543813296You triggered the shitposter
>>543811021>>543811102So true!
>>543820549This is what my Moogle would look like. This is exactly what the Moogle in Visions of Mana looked like
>>543813296>>543820767Nice try, shitposter. Everyone loves the Moogles in Rebirth. They are "peak", as the kids might say.
>>543819446I think about my enemies' opinions more than my own, which are top secret.
>>543821102I'm allowed to like this. I'm allowed to have fun in video gamesYou are allowed to seethe about it too, if that's what you really want
>>543820987Visions of Mana isn't Final Fantasy though.
>>543821562I said that everyone (including me) loves the Moogles in Rebirth. And you posted a screenshot from Rebirth. So I'm glad we're on the same page. Wouldn't want any wrong opinions to occur on the /ffg/.
>>543814336I didn't think I could dislike a moogle design more than XIII-2's...until Rebirth came out.Thanks Nomura.
>>543821617Visions of Mana is a great FF-sister game and it even has Jobs and elemental systems as well as a dramatic story, memorable characters, beautiful artwork and soundtrack...
>>543821914I thought it flopped and got bad reviews? I played the demo and it felt really clunky.Is the story actually that good?
>>543822067>Is the story actually that good?I think this depends almost entirely on how my enemy feels about it.
>>543822067We prefer 10/10 dark fantasy kino here
>>543822067I don't decide my opinion on a video game based on its sales or reviewsI decide my opinion after playing the game. Visions is a good game, great even in some ways.The story isn't some masterwork full of depth, but it's got some FFX flavor sure, there are great emotional moments, but ultimately its your run of the mill JRPG "collect the elemental powers and defeat fake God" storyline. Kinda like XVI. Its like soul food. You've had it before, you'll likely have it again.
>>543822481There you have it. Visions of Mana was good, but XVI was bad. Maybe we can get this updated in the correct opinions of /ffg/.
>>543822682I didn't say that. They're both 7/10 ish. It's probably one of the strongest and most slept on 7/10 ish games ever made though.
>>543822764Visions of Mana was a good 7/10. FFXVI was a bad 7/10.
>>543822067>>543822481Better than XIII for sure
>>543822836Visions is a 7/10 that I can easily recommend because I like the 7/10 that it is.XVI is a 7/10 that is much harder to recommend, because I don't like the 7/10 that it is.There is nuance here that I'm not sure you're willing to digest, and it has to do with what I personally am looking for in my video game.
FFXVI is 10/10ish and very hard not to recommend.
If someone says something negative about a game I like, I feel they're telling me I'm not allowed to like it.Does anyone else suffer from this?
>>543823098I'm glad we both agree. Visions of Mana was good, while FFXVI was bad. However, both of them are a 7/10.
>>543823408Someone else here has suffered from this mental illness for years and someone really needs to find a cure already. I have no idea what to call it other than some extreme version of insecurity.
>>543823408I work very hard to curate the opinions of /ffg/ to ensure that I never feel this way, though I am incredibly prone to this line of thinking.
>>543822962In some ways? Sure. It has a grander world to explore, with caves and towns with shops and NPCs to interact with, as well as a full party of characters to customize. The only hallways are in the dungeons.In other ways? Not so much. XIII has much deeper storytelling and thematic integration of its narrative in its game design. Things like the soundtrack and combat design are deeply interwoven with the narrative in an emotionally resonant way that something like Visions just doesn't approach. Visions is PS2 game soul food from the diner, but FFXIII is expensive, experimental cuisine.>>543823469I'm not using the words good or bad like you are. I liked one game more than the other one based on my personal tastes. But measuring the games qualities, I think they are both pretty similar overall. I'd actually rank XVI slightly higher all things considered. Visions doesn't have anything approaching the Eikon fights, soundtrack, and depth to the world and storytelling.
>>543823836I didn't like XVI, but I did like Visions of Mana. They are both a 7/10, and I can't recommend XVI, but I can recommend Visions of Mana. However, if it really came down to it, I'd still rank XVI slightly higher than Visions of Mana. There is a lot of nuance to my opinion.
>>543823836>>543824074XVI is at least an 8.5/10 you guys are crazy
>>543824547I'm afraid that's where you're wrong.
>>543817031https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP0lTF9AoVs
>>543824074Yeah, there really is. Because personally, I don't necessarily like what XVI is putting down all that much. Too dark, too grim, too repetitive without whimsy. There's a lot of things about it that soured my opinion on it. But someone else, well they might really love all of that stuff, and statistically speaking, they probably will. The quality of the game is relatively high, but I just don't like the qualities. The game is missing so much of what I'm looking for, which restricts my investment in it emotionally.With something like Visions, the overall quality of the game is measurably lower. But yet it ticks more personal boxes for me, it has the things that I'm interested in experiencing in this type of game. Someone else might not though, they might see XVI with its cutscenes as being far more "up their alley". But if you asked for my PERSONAL recommendations, I'd recommend someone to play Visions of Mana over FFXVI. I liked it more, and would recommend it easier. Yes. It doesn't matter if XVI is "better" on paper. It's not my cup of tea, and I wouldn't order it again.>>543824547That's totally fair if you feel that way. And on PC with better performance and a better camera, it is a better game than it was on PS5
>>543824547>>543824668True, it's more like 10/10ish
>>543824738I'm glad we agree.
>>543825127Oh, you agree with "your enemy" do you? Again? Is that why you keep attempting to mock me?Because we agree about Final Fantasy XVI?
>>543825127That's nice to see. Some people here hate being agreed with more than anything.
>>543784319Yup, it's very angry.
>>543824709>"Merchant town"That aside, what's the joke here?Hrist is the "bad one".
>>543824074Based
>>543825348Why do you think you're my enemy? >>543825384It does seem to be that way.
It wish Rebirth took itself more seriously. It could have used a bit more dark and grim desu.
>>543824547Still better than XIII. Worst game I played since Clockwork Empire.
>>543825956The original composition of VII being more dark and gritty was not the developer's intended vision, they were just limited by the technology at the time. What we see in the Remake is the way it was always meant to be, and I'm grateful we finally get to experience that.
>>543826115lmao
XVI is 7/10 ish, but I don't like it. So I wouldn't recommend someone else play it, regardless of its qualities.Visions is a slightly lower 7/10 ish, but I do like it. So I would recommend someone else play it, regardless of its jank.This surface level nuance is confounding to the "correct opinions" shitposter and his Limbo act
>>543826214>XVI is 4/10 ishFixed.
>>543826008Anon, literal shit is better than XIII. Only a moron raised by a single mom could ever like this.
>>543826304I'm certainly not that harsh about the game, but I'd say the exploration and world map is a 4/10.
>>543826214I dislike when people have opinions that are different than my own, but I dislike even more when people have opinions that are the same as mine.
>>543824709>>543825649>Reminder Masons, that the worthy slain Master Mason can be patroned by the Valkyrie, choosers of the worthy slain.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJf9wrxcfAk....Old Norse literature made references to purely supernatural Valkyries and also to human Valkyries with certain supernatural powers. .....
>>543826464Anon, what people dislike is being gaslit by a spamming psychopath. Try and post your own opinion for 24 hours, instead of pedantically and impotently baiting every single person who says something you don't like with your limbo.How low, will you go?
>>543826776>Try and post your own opinion for 24 hoursThis is what I do. I'm sorry if you have an issue with that. Usually we agree, and I think most of the times we agree, but sometimes we might disagree, and in those cases I am the one who is wrong.
>90% of the posts on /ffg/ are someone pretending to have the opinions of their enemies, posting opinions they don't like as sarcastically as possible. You've all seen it, it's happening right now. It's always happening. It's a bitter plague here that makes me wonder if /ffg/ could survive for a whole 24 hours of everyone being honest and saying their own opinions instead of their enemies opinions.
>>543826953some opinions are just more correct than others
>>543827302That is a true statement.
Yeah, I won.
XVI is still shit, and trying to drag XIII down won't make it better. It's still an awful game with a Gary Stu protagonist, a linear way forward, boring battles, shit story, and unpleasant characters that only exists to praise Clive aka the Gary Stu.
>>543827620Grim. No wonder it flopped.
>>543819991The winning streak extends by another day.
>>543826373You angered the fatherless.
>>543826575https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRtO-OBd9fA
No matter what your opinion is, my opinion is always more correct, even when you agree with me, and actually I won the argument. W. You're mad, btw.
>>543828003>>543826575Thus continuing our tale of advancing technology.... and Galactic Federations......https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uyNDeRMH5s4
At the end of the day, XVI is still an excellent Final Fantasy game.
>>543828029False. I'm actually extremely calm right now.
>>543828529https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwPsQhSHcQk>...........Old Norse literature made references to purely supernatural Valkyries.......
>>543828770'fraid so.
>>543827237We can all thank Jimbo for this style of posting. Been doing it ever since he got exposed as a redditor. Now he just pretends to be as obnoxious as possible because people like a game he didn't. Then agree with himself to further shitpost.Why? Because he's a faggot.
>>543831994>Now he just pretends to be as obnoxious as possible because people like a game he didn't.No one does this on the /ffg/.
>>543831994How is he to blame for how others decide to post?Once again a J-exposer post makes no sense.
>>543834538Diseases always have a patient 0
>>543834819From my perspective, as someone who has officially incorrect opinions, I didn't even know the big bad wolf existed until the detective started turning every /ffg/ thread into meltdowns about him, and it's still not clear whether any of the accounts or the 4chan poster are related to each other, and even the schizophrenic accusations that occur here are usually wrong. When I look at a bunch of stuff and 90% of it is wrong, and the other 10% is dubious at best, I kinda have to think that the detective created a sort of self fulfilling prophecy where he created an environment that he hates. Keep in mind, all of the alleged posts he's upset about happened on /v/ or a completely different website, not even here. Then before that, you have the BEapes.
>>543834819True, Type Zero is pretty bad
>>543835509Still better than XVI.
>>543835259If he is a problem, I don't see it here. His stalker only seems to have "evidence" from other places, and it's usually old as shit too. It's his stalker who is a problem here since he'll post about his boyfriend hundreds of times but get mad as fuck when anyone tries to tell him to get over it or ask him to explain why he cares so much. A guy said remake was bad on reddit 5 years ago? So? I bet a bunch of people did. Why are we still hearing about it?
>>543835925If anything, I'm thankful for him because the posts attributed to that name are generally pretty funny and although /ffg/ is even more unusable now than it was in the past thanks to the detective, we did get a nice lolcow out of it.
>>543835259>>543835925>>543836314lol
>>543836314I do like when he goes nuclear and dumps all his dusty case files and you ask him "so the guy in these images... is he in these threads?" and he refuses to answer because he doesn't even have faith in his own evidence anymore. He just keeps making schizo accusations and pointing at random shit that made him upset and hopes that it will cause something to happen. I don't know why he expects anyone else to care when he can't even make sense of his own obsession.
>>543836461Just stating my opinion, which I already informed the thread is usually incorrect according to the official /ffg/ rulebook. >>543836705There are a lot of unanswerable questions on the /ffg/, but that's part of the charm.
Here comes the "if I say anything more than lol I'll expose myself as a schizo" posting. Watch him struggle to maintain composure. See also: "yeah right" and "sure"
>>543836836>unanswerable questionsThose several different posters who took turns to ask about the Smash 64 Cloud mod are still waiting for answers...
>>543835706Not at all. You're a strange one.
FFI is good.FFII is mid.FFIII is terrible.FFIV is great.FFV is mid.FFVI is great.FFVII is great.FFVIII is good.FFIX is good.FFX is great.FFXI is an MMO.FFXII is mid.FFXIII is mid.FFXIV is an MMO.FFXV is mid.FFXVI is mid.All sequels are terrible.All remasters mid.All remakes mid.Most secondary titles terrible.CC midT and TA good.
>FFV mid>FFIV goodkek
If you aren't posting any of these characters in this thread, I don't fuck with you
>>543838658>>FFV mid>>FFIV goodVery true.
>>543838658True and Based quintessential FFV enjoyer. It's amazing battle system and story filtered so many.Rebirth and 7R that high up deserves a paddling thoughbeit.
FFI is good.FFII is good.FFIII is good.FFIV is good.FFV is quintessential & great.FFVI is great.FFVII is great.FFVIII is good.FFIX is great.FFX is great.FFX-2 is midFFXI is great.FFXII is great.FFXIII is shit.FFXIII-2 is good.FFXIII-3 is mid.FFXIV is great.FFXV is shit.FFXVI is great.7R is good.Rebirth is good.DoC is mid.SoP is good.Crisis Core is good.Crystal Chronicles is great.FF Tactics is great. >>543838284 FTFY
>>543839859Both 7r and rebirth are excellent, entertaining games. They certainly deserve to be that high up.
>>543838658This is one of the weirdest lists I've ever seen.
>>543759829>>543759946As soon as this truth nuke was deployed there was bound to be trouble
>>543842801who has ever said you are supposed to hate xi?
It's no coincidence that SE is suddenly shilling FF13 more than usual. It's a sign that a remaster is happening sooner than we think. 13fag just can't stop winning.
>>543843887We HATE MMOs here.
>>543842801Americans hate V because it never got a release there.I'm not a zoomer but played the FFV PR not long ago and it was really an excellent game. That Job system has been the base for many great FFs since, too.
>>543840853>>543844690>>543843887XI is the best one.
>>543845723We'll have to submit this wrong opinion to the council and see how we feel about it. We hate gachas and we hate MMOs, but we have been known to make exceptions. I wouldn't get your hopes up though. Final Fantasy XIV had a XIII crossover event, and we still hate XIV.
>>543831994As an actual faggot, don't associate Jimbo or Paulie with us. I only want to be associated to actual homosexuals like the Gold Saucer's director in the real FFVII.
>>543847475Take your meds. They won't bring your father back but they'll silence the voices in your head.
>>543839289Bottom three have no commonalities to the others.
>>543848680I guess we wont be submitting the request for approval of XI to the council after all.
>>543840853/ffg/ hasn't even played a third of theseWe play one FF then head straight here to shitpost
>>543849275I played I-VII, TA, and TA2.Only finished I, II, and TA.
>>543849275There's no reason to play a Final Fantasy game unless I can upset by enemy by doing so.
>>543849275Many such cases, I'm afraid...
I'm thinking about buying the XVI book.Would rather a Switch 2 release with playable Cid and Jill though
haters will say it's fake
>>543848680You angered it.
Recently played final fantasy tactics WOTL and Ivalive chronicles, WOTL first. Ivalice chronicles is easily the better game imo and would be my first recommendation for tactics, but I do miss some of the extra content from WOTL, not more than I enjoy the IValice chronicles new additions though
>>543857513I think most agree with this. I certainly do. Modders will give us the WoTL content anyway.
>>543857513I would agree except WoTL has QoL improvement hacks that fix all the shit in the OG that even the remaster doesn't, and most importantly, it's free. You don't need voice acting in a retro FF anyway.
>>543857513Yoshida ruined Tactics.
>>543863491>You don't need voice acting in a retro FF anyway.Shit opinion. Fatherless take.
Claire inspired everything...
>>543791760>aerithfag says ec is canon>therefore ac is canon and therefore aerith will die in part 3
Nocto is fucking dead
>>543881732Didn't Aeris die earlier, in part two?
>>543885868Devs said they are using Aerith's fate as a way to generate interest for part3
>>543886508Aerith died at the end of Rebirth. That was the entire POINT of Rebirth. She's gone and won't return.
>>543881732Kimi Onoda will deport Nomura to uganda if he does that for the screentime for his secondhand fap material since 1993 again.
>>543886884I don't think so
>>543887276Least insane Aerithschizo
>>543886508This is retarded. Aeriths's death is one of the most known plot twist on history.
>Aerith Returns: Final Fantasy VII
what side content in ffxv is the best? im currently in chapter 9 and had fun so far doing some occasional side quest like vyvvs photography or getting stuff for the regalia. most other stuff i did was just fetch some food or fetch a hunter tag. while i enjoy the roadtrip with the bros athmosphere it gets boring just doing those hunts/sidequests after a while.many people say the story of this game is okay but the side content is what makes it so fun, is there any more nice side content i should do?
>>543812646But I wrote them down multiple times and those complaints happened almost every time. Why do you pretend to be ignorant and sidestep the issue? You even said yourself that 7R discussion was hard here too.>posts that don't existBad news for you, shitposter.
>>543814336Moogles from base XIII were way better than the ones they ripped from KH in XIII-2.>>543815732>>543818112>>543818538Holy rent free, dat insecurity. Why are Rebirthfags like this?
>>543819830Gottem, even baited out a butthurt response right after your post.
Construct Rosfield
>>543828989>picThey didn't need to make her look more sexier...
Clive Rosfield VA Ben Starr @The_Ben_Starr asked VGC to ask Naoki Hamaguchi if he can voice a golden Chocobo in Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 3. Hamaguchi says he’ll ask the team if they want to do that! (VGC, 10/24)
>>543896469They're all kinda boring. The Catoplebas quest was kind of alright.
FF7 Remake Director Naoki Hamaguchi says Part 3 will be more concise but that doesn't mean it will be a shorter game with less content!"However, for the third game, in terms of what I said about that and the way I’m looking at that is about improving the pacing and making sure that, to achieve an even greater level of immersion in the game, we make sure that the story developments move forward in a fairly speedy manner and with the right pace essentially, rather than feeling slow and drawn out.I think that may have been misconstrued by people; they may have said, ‘OK, that means they’re going to cut down on the volume and they’re going to remove story content, it’s going to be a shorter game, they’re going to cut it down’, and that’s not what I’m saying at all. It’s about making sure the pacing feels right, it’s not about cutting out content, it’s making sure that it feels right, the speed that the story progresses at feels right, and it is fairly quick and feels like you can get through it at a reasonable pace. But it has to feel right, so that’s what I mainly intended to say there."
>>543780390Not unless the thread is janny protected.Good thing i don't play mediocre platformers
>>543759719>Dissidia gacha is bad newsWas the gacha the reason why the TWEWY director quitted?
>>543903940
>>543904451Part 3 will be a shorter game, but it won't actually be a shorter game. I'm glad Hamaguchi's interviews about Part 3 are always so instructive.
>>543903940We need this to happen. Our guy Ben will save Part 3.
>>543904341A catoblepas?!?Metal. Maybe one day we'll get a mokele-mbembe or a wechuge.
>>543905537You don't know this
>>543905204thats...not what hes saying...?
>>543903940>>543905537I would like to state for the record despite my grievances with XVI I have never had anything but positive things to say about Ben’s performance as Clive and about Ben as a whole.
>>543905537No, we cannot let Hamaguchi have him.
>>543906738they literally said that in the interview you troglodyte
>>543907331better pacing =/= shorter
>>543905537>"Kweh", he said, in a deep sultry voice.
>>543905537I hate this. I hate the mere idea of this. However, if it ends up making it to Part 3, I'm sure I'll slowly begin to see the genius of it.
>>543904451I love that Hamaguchi always says exactly what I want to hear. Part 3 is going to be an even bigger game than Rebirth with even more content than Rebirth had, with even better pacing than Rebirth had. If there's anything we can already say with 100% certainty, it's that Part 3 is going to be better than Rebirth (and Remake) in every way possible. We can already say for sure that it's going to be the greatest Final Fantasy game of all time, and very possibly the greatest video game of all time. All of the complaints anyone ever had about Rebirth (not that they were ever valid in the first place) will be completely remedied in Part 3, and on top of that there will be even more content and expanded lore for everyone to enjoy.
>>543906738>verbal warning>>543907545>yellow card issuedLet's hope that settles the matter.
He's already in melty mode it seems
>>543909839I'm glad you managed to calm down
>>543907660>proceeds to stuff a whole banana in his beak for some reason
Is it mental illness or intentional misconstruing?In either case the last few days have proven the 7R shitposter is not a serious person.
>>543909839You have to admit it's impressive that I knew it was you. Not that it's hard to tell.
>>543910345>the 7R shitposterPoint out the posts you are referring to
>>543910345>Is it mental illness or intentional misconstruing?What did Hamaguchi say then?
>>543910520Every post not being positive about 7R, or being too positive about 7R, is a shitpost
7r sucks
>>543911601Still better than XIII.
>>543910554I have a feeling this is going to become another unanswerable question.
>>543912065very low bar to clear
>>543795556Because Lightning returns after being a crystal for a while and you only play as herGame still should’ve been party-based thoughbeitStart as Lightning and recruit the others to your party while traveling across Nova ChrysaliaBasically World of Ruin: The Game
>>543817101>Have Hugo’s hands get cut off by Ultima insteadWhy tho? His hands get cut off in the original to end the fight at Rosalith and make him more susceptible to Ultima’s influence (even though he was more than motivated enough to want to kill Clive anyway so IDK why he did the Bene vision and stuff). Wouldn’t need to happen if he’s gonna be an ally in this version.
>>543845536I played I-VI for the first time via the PR and V was easily my favorite of the sixVI is kinda overrated but still goodII probably suffers the most from removing the extra content (I played DoS after playing the PRs and SoR was a very welcome addition)
>>543845536>>543915984Same. I think most that dunk on V have never actually played it.
>>543910520>>543905204>>543907331>>543908360>>543910457>>543912162And its shitposter(s), hopefully.
Holy shit, what a disgusting flop. Fire whoever greenlit this trash.
Naoki Hamachi says he is looking forward to working on a new game with the same FF7 Remake team in the future! He says it could be a Final Fantasy or something completely different!"One big thing I'm looking forward to in the future is having the team I've put together work on something new. One thing that's common in the industry is that when a project is finished, the team is split and moved around, but that hasn't happened here. We've basically got the same guys all the way from the beginning of the project right through to the end. So I'm really looking forward to the game that we look to create after – it could be a Final Fantasy, it could be something completely different... I've not decided yet.But whatever it is, gamers who have paid attention and seen what we've done with the Remake trilogy, they'll have great expectations and will look forward to seeing what the team come up with."
Hamaguchi says the emerging trend of AI in game development is currently "not something that I could really go ahead with" on a personal level. As much as AI "might try and intrude and take part in the creative side of things," he thinks his team can "do better than AI" anyway.
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 adopted an Active Time Battle style system where players are still dodging and parrying between turns. Hamaguchi remembers doing that quite a while ago with Lightning Returns. He still gets a lot of response from fans who really liked them (VGC, 10/24)>yeah, that combat they praised, we did it long agoholy fuck what a flexthats why i like square in generalactually setting trends
>>543917191TIC is a really great remaster.Why are you like this?
>>543917162If you talk about what Hamaguchi said, you are a shitposter. If you ask for clarification on what Hamaguchi said, because apparently you got it wrong, then you're also a shitposter.
>>543918614weird that I quoted 6 posts but only you felt offended enough to cry about it.
>>543913803'fraid so.
>>543917209I'm glad to know the next game could be Final Fantasy or could not be a Final Fantasy. This is why I like Square in general, always at the top of their game.
>>543918510I HATE YOSHIDA
>>543912162So it seems.
>>543919747Matsuno...
>>543917191Glad this wokeshit is flopping like Emerald Woke did
>>543911601I'm too busy being mad at neutral or positive 7R posts to get mad at actual negative ones
there was cool thread on /v/ but it got archieved.which one is better /ffgots/
>>543921525The 10/10 FFXVI for sure.
>>543921674combat in that game looks like shit :(
>>543921803you may be blind
>>543921875>>543921803>>543921674>>543921525is the DLC for XVI any good
>>543922075yeah it's really good, particularly Rising Tide
>>543921875So is everyone who bothered to finish XVI, considering the sheer amount of particle effects spam.
>>543921525>>543921803XVI is dogshit. Play XV.
>>543922435XV is probably the worst game in the series, next to XIII of course.
>>543918718>weird that I quoted 6 postsThat is weird, you are right. >only you felt offended enough to cry about itI just don't understand why you think I'm a shitposter. All I did was talk about what Hamaguchi said. He said that the game would be bigger than Rebirth, there would be more content than Rebirth, but that Part 3 would also have better pacing than Rebirth. Someone was upset about what people were saying about Hamaguchi's interview, so I asked him if he could explain what Hamaguchi said, since everyone is misunderstanding it. Unfortunately, no one has been able to explain what Hamaguchi actually said, and instead someone is calling everyone who wants to talk about it a shitposter. Also, there is no Lightning being posted, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
>>543922075No, the DLC was so bad that the producer had to lie to the fanbase about what was actually in it.
>>543922731but enough about XV lol
>>543922698It's really not worth the risk, having anyone talk about 7R. Don't you realise what could happen?
>>543922527>XVI is probably the worst game in the seriesFixed that for you.
>>543917209>One thing that's common in the industry is that when a project is finished, the team is split and moved around, but that hasn't happened here. We've basically got the same guys all the way from the beginning of the project right through to the end.So has the project ended, or has the project not ended? He seems to be astonished that the people working on Remake are also mostly the same people working on Part 3, but that would still just be the same project, wouldn't it? Why would they disband the team after Remake, only to reform a new team for Rebirth? That just wouldn't make any sense. Perhaps what he's saying is that he's never worked with a team of mostly the same people all together for so long before.
>>543923135on opposite day
>>543923227>its perfect example>everybody laughs
>>543919865It's a shame, really. I wish I could be enlightened as to what Hamaguchi was really saying. I bet there's something juicy hidden between the lines that my eyes just can't see.
Lightning loves shota
>>543923171It means that theres a 4th, 5th, and 6th FFVII game coming, and they LIED to us about being only three parts.Im gonna get you, KITASE! i was right all along. They are liars and remake was trash.
>>543925240>It means that theres a 4th, 5th, and 6th FFVII game coming, and they LIED to us about being only three parts.>Im gonna get you, KITASE! i was right all along. They are liars and remake was trash.Hold your horses, there, champ. That's not at all what he said, and it was Hamaguchi who said it, not Kitase. Sometimes when we get heated, we tend to eschew logic and operate on base emotions, but let's take a step back for a second. He did say that if the team (which he seems to have thought was going to disband after Remake, for some reason) continues to stay together, that their future projects could either be Final Fantasy or they could not be Final Fantasy. So the future is wide open for our heroes. The team could either stay together or disband, and if they stay together it could either be for Final Fantasy or for something not Final Fantasy. Whatever it is though, gamers have paid attention and have seen what Hamaguchi and his team (including Kitase and Nomura) have done with the Remake trilogy. We can all look forward to seeing what the team comes up with.
We love FFXVII here.
>>543927178Yes we doFFXVII>Two protagonists: Felina and Sagaeth>Felina: Magic fencer. She uses a rapier and magic projectiles, and she does magic mixing and magic sword techniques. Evolves into dual wield swords (more physical) or Magicka dancer (focused on magic). She's a descendant of an ancient race thats proficient on magic. She's persecuted by the Empire and the church since they want to use her abilities>Sagaeth: Dragoon. Jumps around using the terrain as an advantage, physical based. Evolves into Royal knight (tank, drops the jumping, focuses on blocking/parry) or High Dragoon, Dragoon but better. He's an ex-empire soldier that joins Felina since 1. He hates the empire 2. His father, an archaeologist, is missing and 3. Felina is hot>Battle system: ARPG, slower than FF7R, still ATB based. The innovation comes from using the terrain and jumping around (Sagaeth) and mixing in real time magic to create unique attacks through magic orb mixing (Felina)>Main plot: The continent economy is based around the ancient race technology and artifacts called "relics" (Scientists study the relics. Archeologists discover the relics. There's organized crime that wants the relics for the black market, and theres mercenary groups that help people for a price, like the clans in FFTA). There's a legendary mercenary group, led by XXXXX, a master swordsman, that will eventually become the main villain. The different main political forces like the XXXX empire, the XXXX kingdom and the XXXX church are trying to control the world economy through a "cold war" just passive aggresive shit. But theres a 4th faction, a cult, that works from the shadows. They have plans related to the secret religion the ancient race had. Felina is on a journey to find herself, her heritage and to fight the 4th faction/XXXXX master swordsman which are the real enemy.>Setting: Solarpunk.>3 endings, based on relationship level (teammates, comrades (friends), Lovers)>FF elements are obviously present
when will they make a new mmorpg without xiv spaghetti code
>>543927178I just pray that SE have taken notice of how much organic demand there is on 4chan for FFXVII to use an expanded version of VIIRs combat and not turn based combat
>>543927702Considering that WoW is over 20 years old, never.
>>543928807WoW is the opposite problem where the engine aged so well any attempt at making a new one would end up a disaster.
>>543929665retard
>>543929665Your post makes me beyond furious but I can't tell why. Just stop.
>well of course XIV's engine is shit and needs remade>WoW is perfect 10/10 engine though and should never be remadeblizzdrones actually believe this and post it in the Final Fantasy general baka
>>543930502>WoW is perfect 10/10 engine though and should never be remadeHuh? Where was this said?
>>543931023I *felt* it was said, and really it's all that matters.
>I will be intentionally obtuse at all times to avoid any and all real discussion here
>>543931023Somehow I have a feeling no one will answer this question either.
>>543904451Were we ever given clarity on what the /ffg/ sanctioned, correct decipher of this text actually means? The reactions were mostly just saying the same thing, but someone here said that everyone is misconstruing what is actually being said here, but then the person who is telling everyone that they're misunderstanding this text seems to have not informed anyone of what it actually says. Did I miss it? Perhaps he's still working on the correct decipher? Maybe he's beginning from Japanese, is learning Japanese, and will get back to us with what he actually said after Part 3 releases? That's what I'd do anyway. If I waited until Part 3 released to say anything about Part 3, then I couldn't possibly be wrong about it. Then I'd just have to make sure that no one else ever talks about Part 3 and we could control the whole narrative that way.
>>543930169Yes you are
>>543931486This also helps when you want to make accusations about other posters based on evidence that makes no sense and posts that don't exist.
>>543936574It's important to consider that the written word is subjective and a true and tried method of honest conversation is completely making up a post to get upset at based on a hunch. You might see a post praising V's combat, but really if you feel it's actually calling for IX fans to get executed, no shitposter should take that away from you.
Why is XVI so awful?
>>543938405Not written by Matsuno.
>>543922698>>543923031lol
>>543929665It’s insane that they managed to jerryrig the old WC3 engine into what it is today.
>>543928807>wows engines is from 2001 and still manages to do things like completely mog xiv’s housing system>xiv’s engine from 2010 can’t even handle things like a glamour journal Common Blizzard W
>>543941765They were at the top of their game at the time. It's impressive how smooth even older & jankier versions of the game feel compared to various contemporaries. I just don't see anyone in current Blizzard (or quite a lot of companies) managing to make something like it ever again, especially when you see them retouching their old games.Frankly, I don't feel to begin with Square has the means and incentives to find hypothetical engineers to unfuck XIV's code anyway, the market prob isn't worth it for them . I wouldn't be surprised if the next multiplayer FF is not even a MMO really.
Reminder the resident Yoshida hater is a SEA WoW gold farmer.
>>543942826>>wows engines is from 2001 and still manages to do things like completely mog xiv’s housing systemReminder that WoW still does not actually have a housing system, and will not until next year at the earliest. I'm very interested to see 1) if it actually ever gets implemented in any sort of real, functional way that is not horribly bugged or unusable in some way2) if it ends up being anything other than the WoW version of Island Sanctuary, which is what it seems to be3) if it could ever be said to even be competitive with XIV's housing systemI will be completely blown away if this is the one thing that Blizzard has ever been able to adequately deliver on, because it has never happened before. I do think WoW's engine has a much stronger fundamental base than XIV's though. XIV's engine is just a heavily modified version of XIV 1.0's engine, which itself is just a heavily modified version of XI's engine, and though XIV is a long way from XI, XI's engine is dogshit and XIV's leaves a lot to be desired. You mentioned the glamour system, and though the transmog "catalogue" in WoW is very nice, easy, and convenient, transmog still pales in comparison to glamour, for many reasons. Primarily because WoW's gear has a lot less "features" and is more bland looking, and of those featureless, bland pieces, there might only be a couple colors of it available in the game. So if you want your featureless robe, which looks identical to every other robe in the game it just has a different, flat design on it that the others, if you want that robe to be blue and it's only available in yellow and green, well you're shit out of luck.
>>543942826>>543944064>WoW's housing system completely mogs XIV's!>It doesn't even exist yet, but of course it's already completely shit on XIV's, somehowThis is the funniest narrative blizzdrones have come up with.A great example of what was said here >>543931023
>>543944978To be fair to blizzdrones, nothing in their game ever fucking words and everything is always bugged to shit or in an otherwise completely unplayable state. Playing WoW is a lot like playing Cyberpunk on release. So when Blizzard and some streamers showcased the isolated tech demo environment for the conceptual WoW housing, they ate it up and started shitposting with it. When the rest of the game is bugged, I have a very hard time believing that you'll even be able to place decorations inside of the house at all while having the servers remember what's in there, especially at scale, but who knows. This could be the one time WoW has ever launched a feature that was worked as intended. But it hasn't happened yet. We'll have to wait until 2026 to find out whether or not it even works, and if it does actually work, whether or not it is even comparable to XIV's housing or if it's just another chore except this time you can decorate it (like Island Sanctuary)
>>543944978The alpha is out. People are already playing it. It’s not in its final state, but we objectively know what to expect, and unless drastic downward changes happens then XIV’s housing is getting left in the dust.
xiv gets four bosses every eight months lmao
ive seen this doujin before
>new hamaguchi interview>the game will end satisfying anyone>retarded shippers: LE MULTIPLE ENDINGS!>me, an intellectual: all the plot lines resolved and it will all make sense in the end, even for the naysayers
>>543947254Nomura..............................
Why are XIVtards so obsessed with WoW?
>>543948686jealousy
>>543947656>it will all make sense in the end, even for the naysayersZero chance of that>LE MULTIPLE ENDINGSLikely. Though it'll be multiple endings but all at the same time, like they did with Aerith's botched death.
>>543948686Because WoW is the world's greatest MMORPG.
>>543948686Unfortunately, it's the other way around. WoW players have little brother syndrome about XIV for some reason.
>>543948686>>543948757Opposite. We don't think about you at all. XIV has long surpassed WoW in quality and subs.You brought it up.
>>543948757It seems you are correct.
>>543949291XI*
>blizzkek starts glazing WoW out of nowhere in the Final Fantasy general>people respond>wtf why are XIV players so obsessed with WoW??
>>543948686Wow is the FF7 of Final Fantasy, in that it’s one of the most iconic games of all times.XIV is the XVI of Final Fantasy.
>>543949623Are you implying that Naoki Yoshida is a liar?
>>543949943It really do be like that.
>>543949980Never believe a Naoki. They all speak in half-truths and platitudes.
>>543950234HamaGUCCI is nothing but a truthteller.
>>543950476Do not steal SakaGUCCI's brandYou will undermine his XIV clothing business
>>543949980Many people felt similarly.
>>543951070Hamaguchi always tells me what I want to hear.
>>543950234I've heard others say the same.
>>543950975Why can't they just rehire him back?
>>543956012He's retired. Doesn't want to get involved in game development again.Though Matsuno said the exact same thing....
Modders apparently added DLSS 4 to FF7R, which is infinitely better than TAA.https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy7remake/mods/1974?tab=description
>>543943886Disgusting. Defending breast milk thieves, nepo babies, and sexual harassment...
>>543957527Note: not applicable to Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, or Matsuno.
>>543876457It all begins and ends with Light.
>Hackaguchi copied BoTW verbatim and still couldn't get it rightEmbarassing.
>>543958418BotW is just tendie Assassin's creed. None of its mechanics are original.
>>543958418>>543958693We don't call it Ubisoftbirth for nothing.
>>543958418Rebirth had a lot of influences:>Breath of the Wild>Assassin's Creed>the live action Beauty and the Beast remakeUnfortunately, none of Rebirth's influences were the original Final Fantasy VII
>>543959390>weYou mean the voices in your head?
>>543959390>>543959531Sad but true.Lots of trends followed but none set like the original FFVII.
Does it pain you to know Rebirth is beloved?
Based multiple ending chads will feast
>>543935972heh
>>543958418>>543959531Many are seeing Rebirth truly laid bare now that the honeymoon period has worn off.The comments seem to be really laying into Hamaguchi.I guess that's why he's doing so many interviews right now to reassure the few fans Rebirth has left...
>>543960732Amazing. How is Hamaguchi able to consistently tell me exactly what I want to hear?
>>543960579??Rebirth doesn't even have a jump button.
>>543960235Yes
>>543961283Why do you reply to yourself?
>>543961032It's because rebirth is releasing on tendo so he needs to tell them it's like the best tendo game.
>>543960008Setting trends is not for low budget spinoffs.Leave that to the mainline Final Fantasy Chads.
Many people are now saying that they enjoyed Final Fantasy XVI and Final Fantasy VII Remake much, much more than Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Luckily, Hamaguchi has already told us that Part 3 is going to be everything that everyone has ever wanted, regardless of what it is that they want. There's going to be even more content and even more minigames and even more sidequests and an even more open world, but don't worry, the pacing will be much better than Rebirth's. You'll breeze through the 150 hour playtime in a mere 30 hours, and the ending will be exactly what you want it to be, no matter what that is.
>>543960235Seems like it.
>>543961871The low user score is because of a terrible PC port.
>>543962034That's true. It fits the narrative. Unfortunately, most of the reviews focus the gameplay elements, namely the minigames and sidequests and Chadley and the Ubisoft towers, and overall how it feels like a bad single player MMO that is disconnected from the source material.
>>543961342meant for >>543923031
>>543961871Damn that's rough. Is this really the best we can do, VIIsisters?
>>543962491Don't worry. Hamaguchi has already told us that Part 3 will be even more perfect that Rebirth and that everyone will get everything that they want, whether that's more minigames or less minigames, more sidequests or less sidequests, more ubisoft towers or less ubisoft towers, etc. Whatever the complaint was, Part 3 already fixed it.
>>543962287It's a fact. Port's a piece of shit. Much worse than the first part. Rebirth has a 4.69/5 score on PSN, where there's no performance concerns.
>>543963276Rebirth ran like ass on PS5 thoughUnrealslop curse
>>543963276Exactly. Most of the negative reviews don't mention the performance. In fact, most of them say that the only good thing about the game is how it looks. But we all know what everyone is actually saying. They're just mad because they're too poor to afford a computer (or a PS5) that can run Rebirth. The dozens and sometimes hundreds of hours that people with negative reviews have was just on the startup screen while they watched a YouTube playthrough.
>>543963276All of the people who were always going to like it no matter what bought it on PS5. Everyone else waited for the PC release, and some people from the first group even bought it and rated it on each console.
>>543963490Consolefags have low standards for performance.>>543963787>>543964035Give it a rest. It has high user scores on the platform that doesn't have the abysmal port. You'll just have to live with the fact that a game you seemingly hate is beloved. Tough luck.
>>543964192I agree. Every negative review is just people finding reasons to complain about the actual gameplay elements or the story, some of them claiming to be long time Final Fantasy VII fans, all to cover up how embarrassed they are that they can't run the game. They even go so far as to leave the game up in the background while they watch YouTube and Twitch to help formulate their opinions about the games they didn't actually play. They also download other people's save files and load them into the game to complete the whole charade. It's very believable, but we know better.
>>543964459The overwhelming majority of the negative reviews are in regards to the broken port. Saar, your narrative?
See, this guy? He's just upset that he can't run the game on his machine.
>>543964882I can keep going. Page after page of negative reviews primarily citing poor performance and bugs. Not looking very good for you, saar.
>>543964794Ohhh, that's smart. Instead of looking at the most recent reviews, we should look at the reviews with the most thumbs up that occurred when the game first released. That will help us with our narrative. ...except the all-time review score is higher than the review score of the past 30 days... hmm...
>>543965049There you have it. The game had a higher review score nearer to release, back when people were complaining about the performance. So logically, when people stop complaining about the performance, the review score should go... down?
>>543965127>>543965282The overall score is affected by the issues that still affect the port to this day. The overwhelming majority of reviews were written in that window and never changed. Negative reviews still cite poor performance on a daily basis. PSNs ratings hold strong. Metacritic user scores hold strong. I'm afraid your narrative has come to an end. Non-schizophrenics, I haven't posted here regularly in years. Tell me, is this what the resident schizos are up to these days? How sad.
Actually, all of the recent negative reviews from the past 30 days are from when the game first launched on Steam. That's right, all of the negative reviews of the past 30 days (where Rebirth has a 71%) actually occurred when the game first launched and people were complaining about performance. This is possible via the power of multiv-- err, Lifestream Shenanigans.
>>543965670You don't have the mental capacity required to carry on this schizophrenic narrative of yours. You should give it a rest. Your one saving grace is this being an anonymous board, so you could just pretend this never happened instead of being known as a doofus.
>>543965590>Non-schizophrenicsSame! >I haven't posted here regularly in years. What a coincidence! Me neither! Wow!>Tell me, is this what the resident schizos are up to these days? How sad.Well, it seems like the conversation was about the review score (and reviews) of the past 30 days, where Rebirth has taken a tremendous dip compared to its Final Fantasy contemporaries. Then you joined in, talking about the negative reviews which occurred when the game first launched, none of which are factored into the reviews that have occurred in the past 30 days. If someone isn't "logicking" here, it's (You).
>>543965957You mean the latest 477 reviews from seethings chinks? Wow! Hey, if anything, the overall 80% score based on the existing 16k reviews that were even more rooted in that shit port tells the opposite of your schizo narrative.
>>543965796Jimbo's too retarded to be pretend he's a random anonymous poster.
>>543965796All of the negative reviews complaining about the performance that occurred when the game first came out, those are the same reviews that are being counted in the past 30 days worth of reviews, where Rebirth has an even lower score than it does for the past 30 days. >>543966172>You mean the latest 477 reviews from [rasicm]?lolI have reviews set to my language only. You can see that in the screenshots. I can't even imagine how bad the reviews might be if we start including people who don't communicate in English.
>>543966172>if anything, the overall 80% score based on the existing 16k reviewsI know you were already having a very difficult time following the logical confines of this discussion, but you're clearly drunk or something. Remake has 16k reviews, not Rebirth, and has an 87% in those 16k reviews. I already covered this briefly in my original post.
Uh oh...When I started including the negative reviews about performance from when the game first came out, the review score actually got better. When I moved goalposts ever further and started including seething people I've imagined, the review score got even better. What do I do now? How can I escape these numbers?
>>543966334>All of the negative reviews complaining about the performance that occurred when the game first came out, those are the same reviews that are being counted in the past 30 days worth of reviews, where Rebirth has an even lower score than it does for the past 30 days. You're making a conscious decision of using the objectively worst version of the game with diluted reviews to paint your schizophrenic narrative. You could distance yourself from this and just sort PMetacritic PS5 user reviews by date and save yourself a lot of embarrassment.https://www.metacritic.com/game/final-fantasy-vii-rebirth/user-reviews/?platform=playstation-5>I have reviews set to my language only. The recent review count includes all languages, and performance still comes up regularly in every single language.>>543966653Lol. Yes, and Rebirth has one of the worst PC ports of all time, to this day. >>543966298I've heard the name on /vrpg/. Is that who this nutjob is? Strange to hang out in a general thread all day with this kind of toxic hatred.
>everyone is shitting on Rebirth for bad performance, bugs, minigames and bloat>Rebirth cultist thinks this is actually [Good News] somehow and is arguing for it with his lifeHonestly didn't see this one coming lol
>>543967185>PC port is dogshit>YES THIS RECEPTION IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GAME AS A WHOLE>PS5 reception? NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT THEY WANTED TO LIKE IT AHHH!Desperate schizo retard, lmao. Imagine being this sad.
>>543960732Based Hamaguchi
>>543967085Ohh, so it was (You) who have all the angry people in your reviews. See, I don't have that. I don't know why you mentioned that and tried to deflect it all away. It was very, very easy to just look at my image, which is what I was talking about, but no you had to keep moving goalposts because you dislike reality. I don't see the same seething people you choose to see (or are part of). I was talking about the reviews of the past 30 days, and now you have changed goalposts so many times that we're on a different website (metacritic). I have no choice but to accept your concession. >>543966956>What do I do now? How can I escape these numbers?It looks like the solution was to move the goalposts even further, all the way to metacritic, away from Steam, which is where the conversation that he chose to respond to began.
>>543967464No goalposts have been moved. You're cherrypicking to push your schizo narrative. A solid half of the negative reviews still cite performance-related issues. You do the math, idiot. kek
most of the performance issues are from amd gpus lol
>>543967558>No goalposts have been moved.LOL
>>543967649Latest review, by the way. You're cherrypicking reviews for the worst version of the game and using its 30 day score to convince yourself the game's now hated, when despite performance issues, that's still a 70% positive review count, whereas half or more of the negative reviews are solely rooted in performance issues.Jimbo...
>>543772483
>>543967803That review occurred literally during this conversation. Did you actually leave a negative review on a game you're defending just so that you can try to win an internet argument after you already moved the goalposts to metacritic?
>>543967964Nope. I've barely played the PC version and just bought it on sale for a future playthrough after playing the PS5 version last year. No goalposts have been moved. I've challenged your reasoning skills and provided a path for more accurate reviews. Reviews that aren't rooted in brutal performance and other port-related issues for the worst version of the game. Apply yourself. I'm sure you can keep up. Perhaps.
Haha...
>>543968163I'm not buying it, guy. Someone in this thread left that review as this conversation was occurring so that they could attempt to "win". That's just wayyy too much of a coincidence, especially when there's only one other review that mentions anything about performance. Even one (1) negative review of /ffg/'s own design which luckily happened at just the right moment doesn't change anything I said. Actually, now (You) are cherrypicking, because performance issues in the past 30 days are a VAST minority of the negative reviews. You'd know if you had looked at them.
>>543968432I'm not "trying to win." I've won using basic reasoning skills. Your entire narrative is logically flawed. You should try to become a more thoughtful individual. This is just sad.
>>543967964>>543968432>You're all conspiring against ME!!!!kek you think too much of yourself.
>look at the past 30 days of reviews for the recent FF games>Rebirth's is clearly the worst, by a lot>>"well that's just because performance issues">look at these reviews though, they all cite actual game issues, not performance issues>there's like 1 review that says anything about performance>>"here, the reviews I'm talking about all happened several months ago">yeah, those aren't included in the past 30 days>the review score was actually even worse back when people were still complaining about performance issues>>"Jimbo, Jimbo, Jimbo, why are you so schizo?">I'm not Jimbo, and I'm just commenting on reality>>"Oh yeah? Well... look at Metacritic, it has a good score over there!">well, that's lots of reasons to not trust metacritic, but also I was talking about Steam>>"Oh yeah, wise guy schizo? Take a look at this!">>[leaves a negative review mentioning performance on Rebirth's Steam page]>...
>>543968674Jimbo, you've lost. Your narrative is logically flawed at its core. You've embarrassed yourself once again. I hope things get better for you.
uh oh melty
I can't believe the VIIR defender (or one of his brother's in arms) chose to leave a negative review on Rebirth just to try to win an argument on /ffg/, defending Rebirth... that he is still losing because now he's the one cherrypicking reviews. That's just way too funny.
>>543968674>>the review score was actually even worse back when people were still complaining about performance issuesThe review scores were even **better back when people were still complaining about performance issues. They are worse now that people are not complaining about performance issues.
>>543967185>>543968965Definitely one of the funniest things I've seen happen on /ffg/
>>543968965This is a secondary schizophrenic narrative you've attached to your primary schizophrenic narrative you're using to convince yourself that your delusions represent reality. >>543969267Haha, responding to ourselves, are we? Sadly, that won't change what just transpired. Sad!
What should my review be?Post some cute clerith art and I'll copy paste it
None of this would have happened if XVI didn't flop.
>>543969532Yeah, what a piece of shit. DMC has more RPG elements than XVI.
Many people are now saying that Rebirth is the best FF since X
>>543968965>>543968965>That review occurred literally during this conversationIt was posted a few hours before it began but you keep digging that hole jimbo
>>543969414>Uohhhhhhhhh! !! !! Marlene erotic !!!!!! Marlene's belly and chest !!!!!! Erotic …
>>543967916What am I supposed to be looking at here?
>>543969652DMCV has three playable characters and loads of weapons with their own playstyles.XVI has cutscenes. Lots and lots of cutscenes. And good voice acting.
>>543969993Would've turned out better if Yoshida fucked off.
We've decided to deflect to other games
>>543969706That's been the general fan sentiment since 2024.
>>543969706>>543970289Nobody is saying that, especially not now. It's not even in the top 16
>>543970423Correct. Rebirth is so good is transcends them. Its not #1. Its #0.
Many are saying this. VII Chads/Stacies are the most beautiful people in the world.
>>543970759>minor jobber that dies offscreenyup sounds like Rebirth alright
>>543971004For me it's PeachMilky
>>543970423You come off as very isolated. In the real world, Rebirth is beloved.
>>543971004VIIchads not VIIRgins
God bless this person. There weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issues, even though I tried really hard to convince people that there were. Luckily, this person who is completely unrelated to /ffg/ swooped in to save the day. He suddenly sensed that Rebirth was in need of defending, so he rushed to his computer. He hadn't played Rebirth in over 2 weeks, yet nevertheless he felt that now was the perfect moment to leave a negative review that *only* mentions possible performance issues of Rebirth. Not anything about the game, not the minigames and bloat like all of the other negative reviews left in the past 30 days mention. No, this man helped me in my time of need, and he left a review that *only* says negative things about the performance... of a game he hasn't played in over 2 weeks... citing issues that he did not even personally experience. What a chad. The hero that /ffg/ deserves.
>>543971252We just discussed how the real world is shitting on Rebirth currently. Where have you been?The manufactured praise it got on release did not translate to sales nor real appreciation for its Ubisoft gameplay. Sad but true.
Cherrypicked reviews are not the real world. Rebirth is beloved all across the galaxy.
>>543971415I was reading comments on the recent Hamaguchi interview on reddit just 5 minutes ago, and the only negative comments were buried in downvotes and ridiculed, while the other 170+ comments praised Rebirth and expressed excitement for part 3. I think you're confusing your schizo headspace for the real world again.
>>543971529>Reddit echochamberYou need to go back.
>>543971591Very predictable. Again, you're at odds with reality.
Sometimes comments and reviews are the most important thing in the world. Other times, they don't really matter at all.
>>543971529Weird because on the actual Twitter announcement that I was reading 5 minutes ago, everyone was shitting on Hamaguchi. Maybe you're in some kind of 7R cult subreddit.
XVI lost bigly it seems
>>543969267He thinks you're me. It is very funny though. Some VIIR defenders will even leave a negative review on the game they are defending if they believe it will help them win an argument.
As long as no one makes negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, we will be fine.
>>543972003All reception of r/games, r/jrpgs/ and obviously r/finalfantasy is positive. Hundreds of commenters. I also just searched for "Hamaguchi" on twitter and all the comments were positive there as well. Strange. It's almost like you have a really warped perception.
>>543972003I don't use Twitter so I don't know how to find the post or even if I'd be able to view it. Could you post some comments? I wonder if these will matter a lot or if these wont matter at all.
>>543972413https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1981739326880022536This is what schizzy views as overwhelmingly negative. Just like he has to cherrypick reviews for the worst version of Rebirth because the scores for the other version, including recent reviews, don't match his delusions.
>>543971396>There weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issuesjust found a few
>>543972629Well, you're conflating multiple people now, because you told me that I was schizophrenic for talking about the reviews of the past 30 days while you wanted to keep moving goalposts to other places outside of that, but either way I can't read the comments because I don't use Twitter.
>>543972864These aren't cherrypicked at all! You definitely didn't have to sift through dozens of other negative reviews which do not mention performance issues at all in order to find these!
>>543972995>There weren't really any reviews>well those reviews you did find DON'T count!you can't make a claim and walk it back at the first sign of a push back lmao
>>543972876I'm not moving goalposts at all. We've been over this. I've provided you with a more accurate source of user reviews. Reviews that aren't diluted by the performance issues you deny are affected the scores. Steam reviews aren't based on score, by the way. It's the percentage of positive reviews, meaning despite all the awful, awful performance issues, it still largely receives positive reviews. Remove port concerns and the percentage of positive reviews increases. You don't come off as a person capable of critical thinking.
>>543972876You don't own a PS5 or a Twitter wow
Jimbo melty hour.
>>543973354many, many such cases
It's funny. I just went down the list of negative reviews and posted them. Then I was told that I was cherrypicking and people wanted to move goalposts all over the place, including to metacritic. Yet now, someone is actually cherrypicking reviews that he had to skip literally dozens of other negative reviews which do not mention performance issues at all, and he thinks this is some sort of win. It's truly baffling the way the VIIRgin mind works.
Short haired Aerith in a bodysuit. Opinions?
>>543973529See >>543973304You do not possess critical thinking skills.
>>543973529"There weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issues, even though I tried really hard to convince people that there were"these words haunt you.
>>543973635OUCH
>>543973251>>well those reviews you did find DON'T count!I didn't say those reviews don't count. However, you are very literally cherrypicking in order to find them. I was just posting the most recent reviews. >>543973635Well, when you have to skip past dozens of other negative reviews in order to cherrypick the negative reviews you want to post, yeah, there "weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issues"
>>543973721>I didn't say those reviews don't count.>yeah, there "weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issues"big boy here contradicts himself in the same post
>>543973582too short looks like a dykeIf you want shorter hair there is already a tasteful mod
>>543973820Like I said, if you have to sift through literally dozens of negative reviews just to find 4 that mentions performance issues, there aren't really very many negative reviews which mention performance issues. Surely you don't actually need this explained to you. If there were 100 red crayons and 4 blue crayons, wouldn't you say "there aren't very many" blue crayons?
At the end of the day, XVI is still abad game.
>"Guys, stop talking about Steam, please look at Metacritic instead">"No goalposts have been moved."
>>543973936Aerith is trans, so it's perfectly okay.
>>543973565There are no negative comments about Rebirth on Reddit because I personally downvoted all of them.
>>543974194trannies wish
>>543973951Literally who?
>>543973582If we're considering mods, the one that turns her into fem Sephiroth is the hottest.>>543973936Much better.
>>543974342Cute boy.
>>543973936>>543974342I wish we had more outfits/hair customization in game.
>>543974342>hottest>thatdefinitely not visually
>>543973565>>543973951Some more spicy ones
>>543973565>>543973951Off-topic
Why did Rebirth flop? The game is alright
>>543974831>>543975014
>>543973967>weren't really any reviews within the past 30 days that mentioned performance issues">wouldn't you say "there aren't very many" from “any” to “many”, that’s what we in the business call a backpedal.
>>543974831Now that he mentions it, Breath of the Wild is also when I officially decided that Zelda isn't for me anymore. >>543975086They really did demystify Sephiroth. He acts more like Clouds jilted ex-lover who can't get over him so he's always "accidentally" meeting him in places they used to go together.
>>543975350>"VII has the dumbest fanbase">has a cloud pfp
>>543975184>If there were 100 red crayons and 4 blue crayons, wouldn't you say "there aren't very many" blue crayons? [Might you even say "there aren't really any" blue crayons?]Looks like we have yet another unanswerable question. As for your comment, even though you wont reply to mine, I didn't go back and look at the exact words I used. If there are only 4 blue crayons and 100 red crayons, I would still say "there aren't really any" blue crayons. The fact that you got lost in semantics trying to win is funny though. I wonder how many of the 140 negative reviews you had to skim in order to find the 4 that actually mentioned performance.
>>543975350Huh. Renoir really is a better Sephiroth than Remake Sephiorth is, and I don't even think they're similar at all.
>>543975380>He acts more like Clouds jilted ex-lover who can't get over him so he's always "accidentally" meeting him in places they used to go together.I sure hope you don’t think all those appearances are actually sephiroth and not cloud hallucinating.
>>543975854Ultima is better than both of them.
>>543976159lol what a stupid reply
>>543976207If you had at least said Barnabas or Kupka your bait would have been believable. But you went with the main antagonist of the game because that's all someone that never actually played it knows.
>>543976207I really liked Ultima so I agree with you.
>>543976429This. We XVIbros know that Ultima is shit.
>>543976347>lil bro here really thought every sephiroth appearance was really himhow embarrassing
>>543976541This goes against the accepted narrative
>>543976669This can't really be your way to dismantle this criticism, can it be?
What happened?Why all the posts from the previous thread got deleted?>>543419657https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/543419657/
>>543976839There was something in the thread that went against the narrative so the janny had to cover his tracks.
>>543976839Janny was sending a message.
>>543976837>ESLoof well never mind that explains a lot.
>>543976541Would you fuck him?
If you thought that Sephiroth was entirely demystified in VIIR, well, the joke's on you. Those weren't literally Sephiroth himself. All the times that Sephiroth appeared and no one except Cloud reacted to him? Yeah, all hallucinations. So they don't count as actually being Sephiroth.Boom. Criticism dismantled.
>>543977443>deletedjimbo’s having a rough night.
>>543977697Every post I don't like was made by my personal enemy.
>>543977889Final Fantasy VII isn't even turn-based. But P5 and E33 are.
>>543978058Thank you for saying it.
>>543978180I do what I can.
>>543978058ATB is just turn-based with a stamina bar
>>543978058True. Final Fantasy has always been J-Action ATB kino
What is the actual """first""" turn-based game? One of the Dragon Quest games? ...Pokemon?
>>543978631Ok zoomer
>>543978852No, but judging by your response you don't have any actual suggestions to offer.
>>543977889ffvii isnt turn based
>>543978631>>543979009Probably some of the early text RPGs based on DND or even earlier than that was probably chess , checkers or tictactoe
>>543979343Uhh... I think you completely missed the point of the image anon posted. That's okay. Not every conversation is meant for every poster, even if they attempt to chime in.
In FF Tactics, what's the point of using a Monk's Pummel ability? It seems to always do less damage than just attacking.
>>543978631Dungeon, 1975 text based rpg built off D&D mechanics.If that doesn't count then it's Ultima.The Black Onyx is the first Japanese developed rpg (JRPG) with turn based combat.
The real FFXVI
>>543979618Many are saying this.
>>543979563No one has ever heard of any of these, so obviously none of these are actual candidates. I'm going to assume it's Pokemon until someone can firstly name a game that's actually relevant to the conversation, and then secondly it must be a better candidate for """first""" turn-based RPG than Pokemon.
>>543979761>No one has ever heard of any of these>UltimaKill yourself zoomer.
>>543979804Once again, not a zoomer. Just trying to have a conversation that is actually relevant to this image: >>543977889And you don't need to attempt to contribute if you can't understand it. Not all conversations are meant for all people. Now is one of those times for you.
wtf I thought this novel was about final fantasy
>>543979931>has never heard of UltimaYou are a zoomer.The rpg genre oin video games does not exists without Ultima. MMOs do not exists without Ultima Online.Kill yourself Zoomer.
>>543979343>>543979536I didn't reply to any posts with an image.What point are you trying to make with this aggressive reply?>>543979761Oh ok you're just shitposting. Lame.
>>543980289>>543980391What a weird shitpost you're doing. It appears that the conversation has gone so far over your head that you're not even aware one was taking place. That'd normally be okay, because not all conversations are meant for all people, but you've decided to become schizo about it, even if you actually are (against all odds) different people.
>>543979543Worked for me, always did good damage. Also ignores their party compared to a normal attack, doesn't it?I stop using monk after early game though.
>>543980686>ignores reactionsThat would be pretty useful. I'll have to test it out. Thanks.
>>543980582Kill yourself.
>>543980582Are you drunk or something?
>>543981121Quite a shame then that as of the latest entry Pokemon is no longer turn-based. Maybe Yoshida was on to something after all.
GOOD LORD WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE
>>543981917As usual, someone said something less than positive about Rebirth.
>>543981917Nobody even knows what pokemon-kun is talking about. He's off his meds and, even more grievously, off-topic. It's very sad to see.
>>543981121The image that completely baffled one (1) retard on /ffg/
>>543981917The fatherless was here.
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I won again The threadshitter lost
>>543995256(You) lost
