JUSTICE EditionPrevious: >>543748421>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots, and squids to spread Managed Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.net/https://helldive.live/>MAJOR NEWShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7Sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw>LATEST PATCHESInto the Unjust: 4.1.0https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/538868565209514367
>gameguard still exists>AA still broken>game still over 100GB>Improvement on super destroyer of only 3-5 FPSlol shit patch
MAKE THE ENEMIES WEAKER!!! NOW!!!!!!
d10 anysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243755711575/76561198027910192
>slight changes to DoTStill the king?
>>543774515FVLL already?
>>543774515fvll
>>543774515FVLL
>>543774408its finally her time
>>543774685Watch it be named something elseWatch it be the fucking Truth Whisperer
>>543774752that would be funny
RIP Bozo
>War Striders finally get weakspots like every other Automaton unit>THE GAME IS NOW FOR TODDLERS>NERF TROONS RUINED THE GAME AGAINOh no... it was always a baby game...
Scorcher was always the best primary in the game but, whatever good shit.
any word on that way pc and ps5 players can "earn" the preorder gear
>literal smokescreen patch >90% of the playerbase falls for it
was performance patch actually released or its just balancing patch?
>>543775194the latter. a performance patch would require actual effort
>>543775194read the thread retard are we just going to get dumb fucks coming in here every minute asking about the patch
>Destruction of the wings results in instant termination of the DragonTermination = death?So what the fuck happened to grounding the dragon? We know they programmed this in because it was shown and explained in the promo video when they explained the Dragonroach but they fucking broke it before release and now they just gave up on it?
I hope the lava is swimmable :)
>>543775321if there's any cool or interesting enemy behavior you can safely assume that it's been cut because they couldn't get it to work
wait, you're telling me eravin quit this video game? what are the twink gooners in the general going to do now?
>>543775132What do you mean, is this patch meant to just distract and fool the players into thinking they care about the performance or something?
>>543775619kill themselves inshallah
They need to move on to helldivers 3 with a real engine this time, not some janky, out of service garbage that they're trying to keep cobbled together through prayers to its machine spirit
>>543775282i did you dumb fuckign nigger, no one is talking about performance changes at all and i didnt feel them at all, thats why i asked. Stop being insufferable faggot and YES it was combined balance / optimization patch, it just didnt do anything of worth
>>543774856Huh? Its legs were already weak spots.
I just read the patch, seems promising all things considered. Hopefully can fight robots in peace without crashing.How are you all feeling about the patch? What do you like, what you don't like?
I need a status update on SEAFchan's current whereabouts and the status of her orifices
>>543775830agree, there's so much "optimization" lines yet i feel no difference, i literally said like 2 threads ago that "knowing arrowhead, half of these or more wont work" lmao i guess i was right
>>543775968>Hopefully can fight robots in peace without crashingnope, if you were crashing before you'll still be crashing
did they fix the PC bricking issues?
>No bond>Another useless melee weapon>Nice looking armor with stupid passive>Corrections other devs would put out within a weekWhat a bunch of lazy incompetent shits.
>>543776150no lmao
>>543776150>no mention of gameguard removednope.
>It's C-01 because "coi"tusI'm so fucking slow
>>543776241no, it stands for Cute one
>>543776241it's conception retard. you're not filling out the form to have sex, you're filling it out to have a child
BUFF SHOTGUNSBUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)BUFF HMGADD SPACE MISSIONSADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIESADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITSADD GAS GIANT PLANETSADD APCADD TANKADD BIKEADD ARMOR PAINTADD MISSING STRATAGEMSADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATIONADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTSADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONSDELETE DURABLE DAMAGEDELETE ARMOR PEN SYSTEMDELETE GAMEGUARDDELETE DUPLICATE ASSETSDELETE JOELDELETE INDIA
What the verdict? Game saved or deader than ever?
>>543776359It's "any act that could result in a child". Which is coitus.
>>543776359what a way to out yourself of being a virgin, retard.
>light pen buffed>melees buffed>most 'nades buffed>autocannon buffed>solo silo buffed>rail cannon buffed>fleshmobs nerfed AND have actual weak spots now>flying overseers nerfedAre we back?
ADD SEX TO HELLDIVERS 𝟚 RIGHT ℕOW!!!!!!
>all my mods broke againRAPE SWIGGERS NUKE SWEDEN
>my main concerns addressed Um BASED? What’s the problem? Doomtroons just want more upvotes on Peddodit? Eat shit LFG!!!!!
>>543776515We're a little bit back. Slight performance gain, audio bug might be gone but we'll see.
>>543776907Serves you right, cheater.
>>543777057I don't even run any cheat mods fuckface
>>543776150what PC bricking
>>543776745>SMGs big debuff from the damage/bullet drop off>picrelwe’re back, but I’m not happy about it I just tested you can still clamber up onto a turret, not a bad way to stay out of harms way and have a better vantage point when crouched >>543776907kys faggot
>>543776907Only sound and UI mods, mesh mods still werk fine.
>>543776745No, epoch is still bad
Is Stalwart just strictly better than MG-43 now?
>>543775830My FPS increased by 40+ and I only haven't been talking about it because I've been too busy playing unlike you who's still stuck in school
>>543777371lmao
>>543777371Always has been. The sheer volume of bullets means you're gonna hit weak points anyway by accident so being light pen doesn't matter
>>543777120what big tiddy helldiver mods you using?
lobby dok
>>543777514>Always has beenNo
lobby doko
They said they'd change snow in some way, is there any noticeable difference now or in anything texture related?
>>543776523>what is IVF
lobby doko?
>>543777704>15 minutes laterIt's sex, dude.
I have a dream, /hdg/. I have a dream that one day using AI-generated HD3, we will all play as cute anime girl divers in a lobby together. Each character would have their own backstory and would talk like a real person. We will only have 1 life and failure means being dragged into the enemy's lair and brutally raped and impregnated.Would you live this dream with me, /hdg/?
>>543777371Med Pen is still better is most situations and Stalwart was already better against Predator Strain.
>existing squid enemies are less annoying to fight>squids are still unfinished and still have no proper difficulty scalingshan't defend this invasion
>>543777371on squids sure, anywere else not really
>>543777812>no argumentI accept your concession
>>543775830It must be hardware dependent because my stability fucking skyrocketed. I have the game capped at 60 and I don't think I've seen more than a momentary dip all morning. WAIT DONT TELL ME YOU'RE ON WIN 11 AHAHAHAHAH NO NO NO NO NO
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243758674832D10 bugs
Dynamite changes are huge
>>543778304Why wouldn't he be? Win 10 is dead and troonix is for trannies (and can't run this game anyway lmao)
>>543778578>he actually downgraded
>>5437783422/4
>>543778578If it can run on steam deck it can run on any troonix distro, retard.
>>543778578>end of service means i cant use the OS anymore!>wait how is he still typing...>and wait whats this proton thing...Just admit your mistake and roll back to Win 10 to get your performance and stability back. We all make mistakes.
>>543778578bro stop you're gonna summon wulftranny to write another 6 paragraphs about arch
>>543777356>More time before it explodes>More base damage>Can charge to kill bug holesSounds like it got buffed
Has anyone seen a War Strider yet? I've probably played 6 missions this morning on bots and nada. Zero. City missions, colony missions, planet missions... they went extinct.
>>5437783423/4
arcbros....we are lost and forgotten....
>>543779072Guaranteed spawn on ICBM missions
>>543778578>Win 10 is deadWorks on my machine>troonixAlso works on my machine
>>543778342fvll
>>543779191thankyou bigly. going to test AC vs weakpoints
warbond when
So the game still freezes, cool.See you in 2 months.
>>543777831Only if we can rape their women too. Fair is fair
>>543779713probably closer to 6-8. remember it took them 5 months to fix the spear, and that was the A team
>save up super credits >get odst warbond >get ma5c >ammo seems to run out so fast Am I a schizo or did it used to have 60 rounds per mag in halo? Does decent damage but I wish it had an extended mag I could buy
>>54378000860 in gaylo 1 where it was more like the smg with high fire rate and literally 5 degrees of spread. 32 ever since.
>>543777684texture not really but on my medium settings there's no snow paths
>>543778920>Delayed muzzle charge VFX by 0.5 seconds so it now appears when the projectile is overcharged, improving visibility of the charge stateIt sounds to me like they have at least one swede suffering in these threads. Synchronizing that muzzle flash was one of the things that we kept harping on about.
>>543780236just my botnet spamming keywords in their survey
>blitz kill mission>friend's rocket sentry knocks me overFug
>warstrider dies to one charged railgun shot nowJesus, this game has become a joke.
>He invested in shipping container doors being impervious to Epoch shots?>DUMP EET.
Whats a lore friendly medic loadout>medic armor (duh)>stim pistols (duh)>Thinking basic lib or lib variant>Basic frags or standard style grenades>supply pack>stalwart or mmg? Strat gun is what im struggling on>deployable force field>idk other strats
>>543780727Railgawds are back!
>>543780727Charged railgun shot to where
>>543777831Sounds pretty gay, I'd rather play as the inseminators in this case.
UNANNOUNCED SENATOR BUFFWent from 200 damage to 225. Not impact on Hulks unless they also upped durable damage to at least 95 (was 70).>>543780727I was really hoping they'd just nerf the grenade spam, health nerf was unnecessary
>1 amr shot to kill a hulk, one charged rg shot to kill a warstrider.Literally what is the point if everything falls over and dies with no effort? Does anyone here even play the game? Are the lobbies posted in this general just for ERP between tranime troons?
>>543780829>he hasn't unlocked the REP-80 but he wants to medicdive
Eruptor and Redeemer on bugs is awesome
>>543781365Counterpoint: the AMR is only useful on bots and the Railgun barely had a use case before
>>543781365Do you see the timer on the right corner of your screen? Keep up momentum or die. Speedrun or no run, bitch.
>>543781291Armored striders go down in 2 shots to the dick instead of 3 now with it
>>543781526I prefer the bushwhacker Need some stun for predditor bugs
>>543781540railgun was fun to one tap devs and striders with, that was about it
d10 squiggerssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243755711575/76561198027910192
>>543781681I saw that gun but idkI like to use grenades and 2nds as panic weapons if im swarmedOverall I eagle the fuck out of stuff
>>543781365You could already one shot the war striders with the railgun before the patch THOUGH just made it less cancerous cause the fucking joints were impossible to see in the dark
Too little, too late. Game is dead.
>>543781874You had to two-shot the joints with full charged shots
>>543774515
>>543781673Timer hasn't matter ever since the 60 day patch. It's just a decoration now>>54378154010 amr shots to kill a BT
>>543780829Orbital GasStrat gun is the sterilizer obviously because you want a sterile environment dumbass.
>>543781984It was one fully charged shot to the joint You don't play the game either apparently
Did they break the FRV again?
>>543781837Full
>>543780727>>543781365>no actual health nerfs, just added weak spots>its the exact same weak spots as the hulk, the eye and the vent at the backWhy praise swiggers for not following their design philosophy and then cry when they actually do? Bots are meant to reward good aim, not bringing anti tank to every mission, frogposting faggot.
>>543782094And by orbital gas I meant orbital smoke.
>>543782001Just FUCKING look at youYou're lucky the bots didn't violate your orifices
>>543781540RG was already good. Overall these changes really cucked the bots which were already kind of boring
The game is way too fucking easy now
D10 bots bring off-meta fun loadouts pleasesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243763187974/76561198169426323
>>543782314You're not allowed to say that here
>>543780008>>543780150MA5B is 60 rounder in full 7.62 with the accuracy and damage of a peashooterMA5C is 32 rounder in full 7.62 with the accuracy of a garden hose and slightly more damage than previousyou CAN blame bungie for this.
>samefagging this hard
Super credit beams status? Does it still work?
>>543782261Nothing wrong with wanting an easy breezy power fantasy. But you don't have to be mean about it.
Every melee weapon is medium armor penetration now, I hope the animation cancel still works.
>>543782601it does, no update neededarmor mods are also okaudio mods are fucked tho
>>543782261Frogfag is our resident nerftroon, he will piss and moan mindlessly about any change that moves the game away from his masochistic preference
dot hitmarker or no dot hitmarker? i can't decide
>>543782040>hasn't matterIt's a video game. Nothing matters. Joel is railroading constantly, it's basically impossible to capture planets outside of MO adjacent ones, and weapons are hyper lethal. The only fun to be had is dumb fun or self-imposed challenges. I'm a speedfreak so racing against the clock has been my only enjoyment for months.
>>543782729They already all were, the tooltip was just wrong all this time.
>>543782889>It's a video game. Nothing mattersIt can matter or not matter within the context of the game, which is what he is talking about. Retard. Embarassing tranny prose.
>>543782261Kill yourself, warstrider was fine as it was, stop crying because your soloshitter clickbait build din't workOr well don't stop crying, your incessant babbling made the shitty sw*d*s nerf one of the only threats in the game that actually forced you to strategize and bring something other than meme snipers and medpen spam>but RR metaNigger it has never been, there's always been more people running quasar, autocannon or laser cannon than there were RR users in the first place
>>543781365>hurr durr warstriders were LE HARD and not just badly designed and way out of line in comparison to the ENTIRE REST OF THE BOT ROSTER DURRRRR HURRRRRFrogposters truly are the most retarded motherfuckers on this site.
>SMGs now have 4 times the amount of bullet drag than they had 5 months agoPic rel is from the May 13th patch
>>543782763>Not wanting to play a braindead idle game means you're a masochist. Literally one amr shot to kill a hulk, there is no way you're actually supporting that right now outside of spite.
>>543782583I already blame bungie for so much And I will continue to
>>543783283This is fine considering the massive damage buffs. They were bad at sniping anyway because of shit muzzle velocity.
>>543783283I mean it's a video game dude. You can't make them just shitty ARs. You also don't want to make them inaccurate bullet hoses. So the last lever you can really pull is "these things magically don't work well past 50m". Yeah it's not realistic, but we had "realism" SMGs and they never got used because ARs just did what they did better.
>>543777057The best version of this game doesn't come into being without a shitton of mods. Players makes the game. Any notion to the contrary is contemptible cuckoldry.
>>543783226I bet you're jumping for joy now that bunker turrets no longer ragdoll. This update was custom made for lobotomized troons such as yourself. Not one single enemy in this game offers a genuine threat anymore. Why are you still playing it? For ERP with the other troons from this general?
>>543783306It gives the AMR a fucking purpose at least. The damn thing was borderline useless and filled no niche at all.
>oh cool new patch>AMR buffed>play D10 bots>AMR trivializes everything in the gameReddit really ruined any potential depth this game might’ve had to its gameplay. It’s so absolutely mindless.
So is crossplay fixed or
You lot keep going on about ERPing with each other in the lobbies but I've never seen it despite the fact me cock's hard as bloody diamonds waiting for the opportunity.
>>543783495that dilemma is a good lesson on why less is morethere would never have been an issue if they had just decided between SMGs and bullpup ARs but in their familiar Nordic arrogance they just had to have both
>>543782816pls
>>543783201>>543783306Just say that you're bad at aiming and don't want to be outskilled by people that actually got gud at it. You can still solve all your problems with a rocket to the face just as always, little reddit.
>laugh emote no longer loops the laughingSmall change but nice>Still no sound on the destroyer though
>>543774408
>>543783610Yes because everyone loved ragdolling as a difficulty mechanic. Contrarian. This is a great first step to making the game more consistent and fun. I'd say with the current sandbox, and with the performance fixes, they can actually start turning up the heat with the enemies now. Make the bots accurate again where you have to take cover then can pop out and hit the weakpoints... Kinda like you were originally supposed to. It's just our arsenal was so fucked and buggy back then they just nerfed the enemies instead of fixing everything. Seems like their philosophy is changing.
>>543783967Good. SMGs are cool.
>>543776745>>melees buffedExcept the hatchet also got its attack speed nerfed. Hopefully "slightly" is so slight it doesn't make a difference. Melee even with a min/maxed ballistic shield peak physique loadout is a high risk medium reward build even in the best scenario, decreasing swing speed sounds retarded. Machete is the worst melee exactly because it is the slowest.
>>543784089>Meaningless strawmanOk
>>543784153So is it a stealth warbond?
>>543784153It'll not be heavy pen and I'll be so fucking upset about it
>Be D8 fag>Playing bots>Hmmm sure are a lot of bots this map.>See afterward host set it to D10>Only difference I noticed was more enemies. Maybe extra turrets on bases?>Had least deaths (2)Is that all D10 is?
>>543784275>hatchet also got its attack speed nerfedDoesnt matter when it does almost as much damage as pre-buff machete. I am glad it's not just worse saber now but it's own thing
>>543783381>>543782583I blame Bungie for the existence of Borderlands. No, I will not explain myself.
>>543784304eh, more black ops than stealthstealth warbond would need some form of active camo so you can actually wreak havoc without being seen
>>543784161>they can actually start turning up the heat with the enemies nowWait?! You think AH is ever gonna buff the enemies again and make them threatening? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! That is the funniest shit I've read in weeks!
>>543781365get fucked idiot lmoaaa
>>543782752Based, i will continue to swindle the swede. Thanks for the info
>>543776907>>543783593My only problem with mods is that the people that use them will start shouting how things like stingrays are perfectly fine because they run an audio mod. Like you faggots get on your high horse while defending retarded design choices.
>>543784478Yes, when EoF released we called it d9.1, it's d9 with a megabase unless you're squid diving in which case it's identical
>>543784478D8 and D9 might as well not exist
>>543784597>I got cut off and surrounded by enemies on D10 and died :( >AH needs to fix this right now!! >:(Jesus, you're pathetic. This poor game never stood chance with fans like you. I'm done replying to you, Mr. Troon.
>>543784597lel. I am glad grenade spam was tuned down but they went well overboard with muh weakspots
>>543784886that was the jokeit's a strawman comic that was made months ago compared to an actual reddit post and today's patch notesit's a meme designed to provoke... an emotional response.
>>543784153The backpack has my interest. I wonder what it does
What did optimizing status effects actually do?
>>543785072it holds demolition charges
>>543785072It holds c4 you can chuck at things then detonate individually or collectively
>>5437818373/4, lost a man
>>543784712blame Arrowhead for forcing players to pick up their slack in a great deal of things but especially sfx
>>543779759Tell me about the catgirls, are their bodongahongadoos filled with organic plasma? Do smaller automatons gently suckle from their silicone teets ?
>>543781540the AMR is the best support weapon on bugs.3 shots chargers and 10 shots titans
>>543784478the patch notes since last August have been pretty much entirely>[enemy] has been nerfed>[weapon] has been buffed
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243765473771/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
rehosting d10 squiggerssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243765721637/76561198027910192
>>543785072med pack
Looking at the patch notes it seems they made the game a lot easier than it already was, and buffed some things that really didn’t need buffs too
>>543784597>"I'm not bothered that an enemy with no weak spots that can spawn in large groups on high difficulties can just effortlessly stunlock you in a tumble dryer of explosions, therefore its not poorly designed."
>>543785626fvll
>>543785351AMR's inferiority to AC is most visible on the bug front where AC's stagger + aoe make it the top1 easiest option to surge your dps in addition to being among the best, if not the best nest clearing tool
>>5437855653/4
>>543785794Yeah that's me, maybe it's because I don't identify with the guy in the video and sprint directly into giant hordes of enemies lolWell I guess you can do that now, they'll keep accommodating you
>>5437855653/4, get in!
Are these new automaton missions in the game? Are they leaks or are they fake and gay?
>>543786074Good :)
What scope mods do you guys use on the AMR? I hate the fucking default one.
>>543785459Good to know they're keeping Alexus chained in the basement and making him suck down more surströmming.
>>543785794>tries to run past a huge wave of dangerous enemies right next to him, hoping he just lucks out or something (terrible behavior learned after bots were nerfed time and time again)>water stops him from actually ragdolling so he keeps going, just slower>takes like 50 explosions to kill anyway>"I can't believe I've been stunlocked effortlessly"
>>543785794You're retarded and can't use your literal rods of god and heavy ordnance to clear the massed threats they were intended to destroy. Your entire stratagem deployment is blue and you still complain everything is too hard even when the enemies fall over from being plinked with a gum laced firecracker
>>543784843Judging by how much my 150/150/130 teammates died (I was 112) most randoms couldn't manage. Not to mention both of my deaths were still the same old idiot teammates and their teamkiller strats.
>>543786350they are leaks, real and straight
>add shit enemies that go against previous design>do nothing for half a year>nerf every enemy and buff every weapon beyond what anyone askedThe Arrowhead balance cycle
>>543786506>takes like 50 explosions to kill anywayDying instantly is preferable to getting stunned for 10 seconds, actually>>543786525>every enemy larger than a trash mob should require a stratagem to killYou could literally kill every bot with a well aimed shot up until they added the war strider. Yes, even factory striders follow the "just aim for the red glowy bits" principle
I won't be able to dive until later this evening but when I do I'll tell you definitively if the player buffs and enemy nerfs were too much.
>>543781365The Helldivers 2 community has an exceptionally high quota of degenerates. You're asking a bunch of stoners, adderall poppers, redditors, dude alc lmaos, fatigued gamer dads that work 2 jobs so their wives' children can have Switch 2s, etc why they want max difficulty missions attuned such that failure is essentially ruled out. Learning curves are essentially a notion of pure evil to them. They want to "chill" while playing games and instantly start screeching at anything vaguely resembling a struggle. They act like this irl too, just oscillate between whining and being a retard until your environment is completely at your whim.
>>543787514but enough about Battlefield 6HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
>>543781365The real fix to this should be for AH to just throw a lot more enemies at us, but the dog shit engine probably won't allow it
Personally, I don't feel the difference other than frame rate not dropping during heavy breach, on my machine at least. We'll see if this last.
>>543778342GGs
>>543787514yeah... they are not like us, elite gamers...
>People are whining about the weapon buffs this patch>People are whining about the weapon nerfs this patch>People who were crashing and having their computers lock up entirely are still crashing and getting hardlocksBeautiful patch. I can practically smell the surströmming on the wind. Bravo AH
>>543787065they barely buffed anything they just added 10 damage to every light pen weapon which is pointless since they still can't do any damage to 90% of enemies who all have at least medium armour
>>543787970Nobody said anything about elite. Asking you to be less of a manbaby isn't elitism.
>>543787312>Dying instantly is preferable to getting stunned No it isn't, people whined too when bots were like this.Also he wasn't even really stunned because water almost instantly stops you from ragdolling and puts you on the feet, you can see him continue moving towads the shore as he is getting pummeled.
>>543787973>people are whining The human condition. We live in a society.
The buff on Pacifier is token at best, it isn't coyote good now, just slightly +0.1 less shit than before
>>543788348arrowhead fears stun being good
I am not able to join any lobby for whatever reason, hd2 is giving a failiure to connect errorI was able to for hd1What gives?
>>543788074>they still can't do any damage to 90% of enemies who all have at least medium armourLearn to aim, retard. Hitting weakpoints melts enemies now. I laugh at anyone using medium pen primaries on bugs or bots.
>>543788227whining about whining is so ironic
>looks for Warrant in patch notes>drag decreased from 0.3 to 0>gravity multiplier decreased from 1 to 0.3we're so fucking back
>>543788215>just play on planets with water puddles and accept that you're gonna have all control of your character taken away from you 10 seconds before you actually dienah nigger you're dumb
>>543788564do you play on d1 or something? most enemies "weakpoints" are atleast ap2
>>543788441>stun enemy >or kill themIs this really a hard question?
>>543788564>Need buff to play AP2 on bot when Scythe and Sickle exist
>>543781837>>543785248Some fucking teenager drove their Jeep into a utility pole and knocked out power for my entire village
>>543788798the swede is here
>>543784153So>Justice>Silenced smg>c4 backpackWonder what else is in it
>>543782261>Bots are meant to reward good aim, not bringing anti tank to everybefore and after the war strider bots rwarded anti tank a lot more than "good aim" it's anti tank that lets you destrroy bases without ever setting foot in them. it was anti tank that destroy bot drops before they can even drop. the only way "good aim" is rewarded against the factory strider is with the Recoiless, an anti-tank weapon.
>>543788598>whining about whiningThat was indeed the joke of that post.
>>543784153>making the halo warbond even more irrelevantlollmao
>>543787065Buff to light pen weapons won't affect half the people in this general because they clearly get upset when you aim for weak points anyway
>>543788564>light pen>the economy option>in a game where you can't walk 5m without tripping over ammoumm no
>>543788928one more rifle, ar59basically a suppressed libcarb
>>543784153>Suppresed shitI hate this thing so much the tradeoff Sweden gave them just makes it not worth it. Just take a look at halo SMG. They'll be shit.
>>543785254I don't mind the mods themselves, just the autists that use the mods and get a sense of superiortity while justifying the current state of the game which is basically just defending and enabling shitty devs while sniffing your own farts
>>543788847>need buffI never implied that. I used light pen libs just fine before the patch and would've continued to use light pen libs regardless of buff or no buff.
>>543784712no one does thatkek
Just played>a lot of culling particles and moving them to other things>some ai changes>very aggressive LoD on a lot of enemies and other thingsI think the LoD change might be too aggressive in some cases but it's going to give toasters much better performance during missions. Pretty good. I might be able to raise particle quality from lowest now
>>543787312factory strider is one-shot by a well aimed RR shot, War strider is one-shot by a well aimed RR shot. Where is the difference exactly? War strider at least lets you get the one-shot with multiple options even the commando.
>>543776515Mostly whateverMost of the changes aren't noticable.Dragonroaches got mostly good changes, War Striders were probably over killed but whatever. Light weapons are still dogshit, the tuning to durable is nice, but is a drop of piss in the bucket, and the core problems facing the weapons have not been addressed. No, 7 more durable damage does not make a Liberator a good choice for shooting dragonroach wings. Most of the weapon buffs are irrelevant bullshit, besides the Punisher Plasma which now fucks, and the TED which is no longer ass, and is now essentially interchangeable with the 500kg for objectives. Core issues with shit weapons have not been addressed, what was good before remains good, what was shit before remains shit. They fixed a bunch of "rare" crashes, but the game still has all the common ones, and bots are still miserable. Rupture Strain is less ass, no fucking clue how the changes took 5 goddamn weeks considering how minor they are.I would say, things are not back. Slightly more over, because this patch is a bunch of placating garbage, not the actual problems being fixed, suggesting the changes are outside their ability to deliver. They changed some numbers, half this shit could have been done by one person over an afternoon. The game is still fundamentally broken, and the small fixes they have made are also drops in the shit bucket.
>>543788876rip
>>543788710He didnt have all control taken from him, Though. He'd whine if they killed him instantly or if it takes 10 seconds, doesn't matter to shittersAlso, in my experience grenade salvos could kill you really fast if you didn't move out of the way or used Fortified armor. This webm is frankly not very representative, despite what reddit believes
>>543789328>mention the stingray can be bullshit>3 or 4 autists dogpile in about JUST USE THE MODS LOL NOT MY PROBLEM
>>543788984>anti tank that lets you destrroy bases without ever setting foot in them>anti tank that destroy bot drops before they can even dropOh, so you're supposed to use anti tank against buildings and drop ships, and not regular enemies? Glad that we agree.
>>543789049>economy I just like aiming and watching things die faster when hit at the correct angle and spot. It's gratifying. Nothing to worry about.
>>543789586this never happened btw
>>543789586I don't use mods and they are fine
>>543789705You just can't but be an insufferable nigger can you? Just the fact you respond like this is proof enough you faggots are as annoying as can be
>>543789586the only bullshit thing that stingrays do is line up against one player and then turn 45 degrees at the last second because of desync or some shit. but that's not even an issue 99% of the time.
>>543789857you've conjured up a strawmanyou can't prove that happened because it didn't
>>543789984eat shit and diehttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/541920692/#541962838
>>543778819>only goldngmi
>>543789474>rupture strain is still assAre they back?What planet?
>>543790185>he's been seething for more than 2 weeks
>>543789617literally everyone with a brain already picked things like anti tank emplacement and thermite on the bots because AT can do both and when it can do both there's no reason to bring anything else. Note i in fact think thermite and stuff like the quasar should NOT be able too destroy spawners from the outside. especially to give the new and improved dynamite more breathing room in the design space.
>>543790185lmao shitter
>so called "performance patch">game still runs like shit even on the destroyer
>>543790312>>543790334you're still a nigger :)
>>543790312>>543790334>btfo with undeniable proof>ha ha you suck!The amount of sore losers infesting these threads I swear.
>>543782261Obviously, adding weakpoints is a good thing. Giving the weakspots so little health that the fucking thing dies in a single shot is retarded though.
>>543790438I went from 140fps to 160fps on the destroyer.
>>543784153>faceless, colourless armor set>dark background with red ambient lightHmmm...
>>543784153odds of this being the liberty day gift?
>>543782261It's not a hulk so it didn't need to have hulk weakspots. Nigger. Why not just make hulk the only enemy in the game at this point? Also war strider DID reward good aim, probably more than any other enemy.Shitters killing the game as usual and then trying to wash their hands from it, classic.
>>543789667but anon, aiming is very easy in this game no matter what gun you use
>>543784153The rifle will be light pen and have the highest potential DPS out of all ARs, but it'll actually have 0 durable damage.
Why are the recent reviews so bad?
>>543785258>automatons run on human bloodWait... does this mean robutt is a *gulp*v-v-vampire
>>543785895you dont need stagger if you kill the shitand literally everything in the game can destroy bugholes, its hardly a plus
>>543791349No, she runs off human cum
>>543791349*pours acid sludge all over its body*
>>543791117based
>>543791296the last thing we need is another light pen ARit should be a short mag ap4 DMR
>squids>drop shield emitter while running away from voteless>drop 15s dynamite where its supposed to land>15 seconds later at the extraction terminal>x47 kills
>>543791421>kill the shitAnd it kills the shit vastly less effectively than AC anywhere but on bot front>everything in the game can destroy bugholesNo it can't. You need at least 30 demolition strength and AC gets 60 shots of that, best in the game I think.
Alright, that's enough new patch for one evening.
>>543791898lower the difficulty
>>543791898Physics successfully optimised.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243769924080/76561198065475540d10 bots
>>543791996>be even more boredI have a better idea. I'll go play a game that hasn't been ruined yet.
>>543792058fvll
>>543791227>it's easy to aim for weakpoints!Okay so you don't need a medium pen primary gun then? This chain started with someone >>543788074 outing themselves as an aimlet by saying medium pen is better because light pen damage is blocked by a percentage, which it isn't if you easily aim for weakpoints.
Did they patch the supply backpack exploit?
>>543791330Not enough weapon buffs and enemy nerfs to satisfy redditors and /hdg/.
>>543792340but anon, medium pen is bettergiving up power for a bit of ammo, ergo, and low recoil just isn't a good deal
>>543789474What do you even expect from primaries? Do you want something Liberator to be a reliable tool to kill Dragonroaches and chargers? To kill fleshmobs with a single magazine? Why even carry stratagem weapons then?
>>543792523>giving up power I'm not a an aimlet so I'm not giving up power.
>>543792394they did not
>>543792340don't be a bullshitter, on d10 almost every enemy has weak points that at least require medium pen
>>543792523didn't you just ragequit because you couldn't solo D10 bots?
>>543792710>I'm not a an aimletagain, aiming is very easy in Helldivers 2every last one of us is an aimgod and an aimlet at the same time because there just isn't anything that handicaps your ability to hit>b-but ergopure noob hurdle, use the gun for an hour and it's in your muscle memory
>>543792773>d10>every enemy>require medium penIncompetent retard or chronic liar?
>>543791831there are no 60 bug holes in a game my guy6 grenades is more than enough
>>543792923No, also d10 bots is trivial. I merely tested the patch and concluded that it's kuso as expected. Gonna wait out a patch to the patch + mods to get fixed.
>>543789474You want a liberator to be able to takedown dragon roaches? Dumb.
>>543792954>you MUST be trying convince me light pen is more optimal than medium pen!The absolute state of your reading comprehension. Read this post again. >>543789667
>>543793109Ok great I am being le trolled epically, kill yourself retard
>>543793170right, must have been some other guy getting folded and complaining
>New commando type mission behind enemy lines with limited resources and reinforcementsoh okay cool, So scout striders can't randomly 1 shot you with a rocket anymore?War striders don't put you in the ragdoll Saṃsāra?
>>543791145>Also war strider DID reward good aim, probably more than any other enemy.Shooting someone in the crotch with a rocket is funny but it hardly "rewards good aim"
>>543793318hope you like wearing shieldgen for every mission
>>543784153Whats the armor passive?
>>543793345Shooting hulks anywhere but on the limbs with a rocket hardly "rewards good aim"
>>543793310sorry, autocannon is just not good mansorry if you can't come to terms with reality
Did the buff to the Epoch's uncharged shot also increase the charged shot damage? I'm not sure if the charged shot gets a percentage damage increase or if the damage value is set and just was double the base value before.
>>543793251as I've stated many times before, I refuse to respect light pen anything until ammo scarcity actually gets to be a thing in this gameI have high hopes for that leaked new mission, might actually get a reason to dust off the old R-63
>>543793318Rocket striders haven't been a threat for about a year now.
>>543793318War striders don't put you in the ragdoll Saṃsāra?no, they kill you now.they got an accuracy buff and the cooldown between laser barrages was removedthe monkey paw curls
>>543793475I exclusively kill hulks with the Senator.
>>543793494nta but this is cope because you're failing with a gun that grants no excuse to failAC is overtuned and very easy to use, more than ever now toonot wasting your back slot on backpack stratagems is the finest divepill of them all
>>543793475Correct, that's why they made it so you could kill hulks with a heavy pen weapon shot to the eye. You're almost there, anon.
>>543776462they can only change so many numbers in the txt file per patch bro...the design guy must have put in overtime to change all those numbers over a few months
>>543793737sorry, autocannon is just not good mansorry if you can't come to terms with reality
>>543774189Game looks cool. How viable is solo play?
>>543792107Which is
>>543793512Is the reload still stationary?IMO that was the biggest flawMid damage and small mags are fine but killing the pace of combat to take a knee with the thing ruins it's role as a non backpack support weapon since there are stronger funner options that don't eat my time to do it's basic function i.e. queso and LC
>>543793519>refuse to respect light pen anythingI refuse to respect you for simultaneously saying the game is too easy but needing to use med pen or else what exactly?
>>543793870it is viable if you want to rage at a videogame.you can also play with faggots from this thread via lobbies, that's incredibly fun and enjoyable. people don't mind newbies and will walk them through the basics.
>>543793967you're arguing with a guy that gets filtered by D10 bots
>>543793967>I refuse to respect youfine by me, your respect has no value
>>543781365>Literally what is the point if everything falls over and dies with no effort?The point is you kill the enemies with ease and then do the main objective, ignore the worthless sides and other bases because they have literally no reward, and then you extract. That's it. That's Helldivers 2.
>>543793747Correct, which is why they made it so you could kill war striders with shots to the joint. You're almost there, anon.
>>543793870it's one of those co-op games where it's just 4 people off doing their own thing and contributing to the overall mission objective.
>>543793927Sonic Racing Crossworlds
>>543793870You can play stealth and keep away up to Diff 7 but the moment you get found out the enemy count simply kills you too quickly to do anything.
>>543794042getting filtered by an ergo rating below 40 is a lot worse anon
>>543794090Joints shots are for squid tripods. I'll stick to shooting the red glowy robot bits.
I really really want to overclock my energy weapons
>>543781365Because there are 4+ more of those hulks and war striders you need to kill and its ridiculous if each takes a hellbomb.you keep complaining about heavy enemies being too fragile when forgetting this is a horde shooter and there's always going to be more where those came from.it should always be quantity over quality which is why squids should get the rope.
>>543794367I accept your concession. Enjoy the game being further shitter'd down for you.
>>543794042>guy that gets filtered by D10 botsHalf-heartedly. I'm mostly laughing at his "muh need optimal med pen" shitter logic.
>>543794492See you on the next dive, anon.
>>543793747It's not even comparable. You can get up to a hulk's face and not get killed for 20-60+ seconds by just holding strafe regardless of the variant. Warstriders actually threatened to kill you forcing you to actually get far away enough that accuracy, bullet drop and long range matters more.now that they can't ragdoll you and you can just AMR them to death from any range they are a complete joke just like hulks are
>MO objective to liberate x planets for the next 42 hours.>It doesn't end when we liberate the designated planets.So it's "hold" x planets, then. Not "liberate", Joel. You retard.
>buffs to give the consoomers a dopamine hit as the game falls apart around them>last patch of the yearover status?
>>543794302>no u I accept your concession. If you want to complain about the difficulty in the future I suggest you do so on reddit
I give it a couple of months until an arrowhead developer has another temper tantrum and counteracts all the weapon buffs under the name of "REALISM AND GRUNT FANTASY"
>>543793870It's a party game where you can pretty much do whatever you want. The enemies are just there for show or thematics. It used to be a co op shooter but that was ages ago.
Can't believe the nerftroon has been seething here for over a year while constantly losing to buffGODS
ok which warbond do I get next from the ones I have left>Polar Patriots>Viper Commandos>Freedom's Flame>Truth Enforcers>Urban Legends>Servants of Freedom>Borderline Justice>Masters of Ceremony>Force of Law>ODST
>>543794707nigga the 3rd obj is to hold a planet
>>543794245>4245>>543793927(You)
>>543795016urban legends or servants of freedom
>>543795016urban legends for the hellbombor force of law for the de-escalator and electric doggo
>>543794465Oh no! 5 whole hulks?! What ever will I do?!>Proceeds to kill 5 hulks by himself without having to reload his amr once.Not to mention that the slightest bit of teamwork invalidates any potential difficulty. Stop trying to defend this joke game, it's sad.
>>543795016Justice has the laser revolver
>still not fixed
>>543795016polar, viper, urban, servants are goodthe rest are forgettable
>>543794997But at what cost? Now the game is shit. Talk about a pyrrhic victory...
>>543795330what do you mean it's not fixed? they just buffed the liberator
>>543795103>Fucking Hellmire is the sole reason this MO isn't completed by now.Even in liberation that shithole planet is an active nuisance. The Hellmirish will pay for this with a full year of potato rationing.
>>543795452Only for you nerftroon
>>5437920583/4 slot open
>>543795908ERP lobby?
>>543795908>>543795967Please say yes please say yes please say yes
>>543796145YES NIGGA AND YOU TAKE THE ROLE OF THIS cute AUTOMATON NOW JOIN
>>543794695>Warstriders actually threatened to kill youThey just ragdolled you, and they still can. The "removed ragdolling from its projectiles explosions" only applies to their laser cannon splash damage. Grenade spam is still real if you fight more than one strider at once, which I guess you never do, D7 shitter.
>>543796293GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
>>543795016Polar Patriots is must-haveSkip Viper Commandos and get Medium Peak Physique from the SuperstoreUrban Legends and Servants of Freedom are also must-haveSkip Masters of Ceremony and HaloGet the rest at your leisure
>>543795016>high speed low drag, high RoFViper>bombUrban>pocket nukeServants>laser revolver, hoverpackBorderlineeverything else is a sidegrade (ODST), a meme (masters, force) or thematic (flame, polar)
>>543796391Their grenade was heavily neutered. And everybody plays on D10 because it's easy.
>>543784153That helmet screams arcshit.
>>543796391I only play D10 and I haven't died in the past 47 deployments I've been in bots, with multiple warstriders, ever since this change was implemented.I'm gonna call skill issue on your part my guy, they made them easier than they already were.
>>543792058steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243769924080/765611980654755403/4
the pubbies are eating it up
>>543782425ggs
>>543796746.t shield backpack
>>543796293fag
>>543797028damn get that strider a sponsorship
>>543796948Even pubbies got better aim than your average /hdg/ medpen crutcher
So when is the next bond? Expected next month? Whenever the devs get back from their sixth vacation of the year?
>>543797028damn that's beautiful
>>543785565GGs.And since when does this mission have 2 towers?
>>543797084Stop projecting. And why aren't you playing right now? They nerfed the warstrider just for you. One rg shot is all you need now.
>>543797378this patch
>>543797084I run jetpack eats or gundog laser cannon with a constitution depending on how I feel about it, come on.
Map generation is still on the backburner
>>543797186Topkek
Why even waste your time seething about another buffGOD victory on a Chinese cartoon website? It's not like the Swedes will ever read it
>>543797638public humiliation kink
>>543797638Why continue to play and defend a game that you can effortlessly breeze through while blindfolded and one arm tired behind your back?
>>543797846It's fun with /hdg/ and the webms at the end make it all worth it
>>543797846Because it's fun. Not everyone is a CBT enthusiast like you
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243774380723/76561198023232654bugs on jungle planet
>>543797846>the game hasn't been for him over a year at this point>still enters threads to bitch and moan
>>543797638Awesome "blah blah why do you ughhh why do you even care ughhh" post after someone called you a shitter.
>>543796948I'm a proud Lib Carbine and Sickle user on the bot front and this update is for me
They went overboard with the warstrider railgun one shots. Should be two shots to weakpoints or one 95% charge shot to the joint. Rape and kill all ledditors.
>>543797846JILTED
It's frustrating that so many people here defend the game despite it's rampant casualization. I know there are many good players here who are capable of handling a challenge yet they still defend the tragedy this game has become. The game can still be fun but was infinitely more fun when the enemies were super deadly and relentless. >"B-but it was always easy!!"That doesn't mean the solution was to make it outright braindead. What's the point of having TEN difficulty modes if they're all easy slop and everyone just jumps to D10 anyways? AH are incompetent cowards for letting themselves get bullied by redditors and diverdads. Or maybe they just wanted money $$$ all along.
>>543798767OK nerftroon
>>543797389You must not play with randoms if you never die. I can't go 3 maps without someone tossing strat on top of me. No not shit like straffing run, orbital napalm and buckshot are the worst.>Why aren't you playing.Wageslaving and shitposting on their dollar.
>>5437982432/4we need (you) anones B^)
>game ran decent for me until patch>now everything runs and sounds like shitfags
>>543774189Damn, this warbond actually looks cool.
>>543798767>90% of the patch only makes the game easier if you know how to aim for weak points>the other 10% of the patch buffs equipment that nobody used>this somehow enrages the chuddies that only use med pen weapons and the same crutch loudout on every missionWhen Shams sends out his shills, he's not sending out his best
>>543799286It will have one good item on the last page just like control group
>>543797028it was like 20 meters behind on my end xd
I simply expect the harderst difficulty in the game to make me break a sweat, provide some tension.But shitters feel like the game is insulting their gaymer masculinity if they ever fail a mission, hence buffs and enemies getting castrated.
>the nerftroon has been going at it for HOURS now
>>543799542>He thinks aiming for weak points was ever difficult Lmao
>>5437982433/4
>>543799074>buckshotAirburst. Also skill and positioning issue. ALSO just dive, you can survive nearly 90% of explosive stratagems by being prone unless they directly land ontop of you, which again skill issue.
UH OH GUCCI NIGGERS MELTY
>>543799542Are you saying that they failed to casualize the game enough and Shams has to send "shills" to convince people otherwise? What?Bufftrannies have gone insane.
Light pen durable buffs are huge for high skill divers
>>543800034>High skill diversWelp, that rules out redditors and /hdg/
>>543798243full
>>543798243fvll
>>543799757He's been at it for over a year and just can't stop seething
Notice how all the nerftroons only cry about the war strider. This is actually because they're totally okay with every other enemy nerf this patch and simply glorify the war strider because "reddit hated it, so then I must love it!"
>Didn't fix the audio bugs I'm gonna have a melty in the thread
>>543799830I know what it's called, don't be a literalfag. >ExplosiveBUCKSHOT counts as explosive?
>>543800392Took me one minute to find a post complaining about hulks dieing to 1(one) amr shot. KYS you stupid nigger.
>>543800557we're currently at melty capacity, we'll have to pencil you in later
>>543800557OOGA BOOGA TURN AROUND THERE'S A VOTELESS BEHIjust kidding
>>543800392>Redditas if it wasn't what /HDGay/ also whined the most about. It's simply the most cucked one.
i found jetpack eli- i mean elevated overseers annoying but sheesh they gutted them
>>543800392Here, you dumb nigger. Try reading >>543783306>>543781365
>>543800754The heavy precision support weapon can one shot the lightest heavy in the game with a precise weak spot hit ? It's over the sky is falling
Just played bots, war strider and bunker turret lasers now only ragdoll on direct hits, no other noticeable changes.We are so back.
>>543800875I liked that they wearing medium helmets. Illuminates are supposed to be the smart ones.
>>543800754>dieingI already knew nerftrannies were ESL euros, but come on
>>543796948Because the food is good you contrarian.
>>543800754>>543800952>MUH HUUUULKS>couldn't even bring up a single other nerf from the current patchLearn to read, thirdie
>winners of the patch: AC and AMRThat was on your bingo card, right?
>>543801137 me*were wearingle sigh
>>543799830>Shit teammate that holds strat and let's a stalker up his cornhole.>They get rag'd and drop that shit on me.>Skill issueYeah maybe theirs.
>>543801279My bingo card was doomer shit. Feels good to be wrong.
>the lack of ragdoll means you can now walk right up to warstiders and stand still unloading on the hip joint as they miss all their shots>those missed shots unable to affect you in any wayremoving the ragdoll itself makes them easier to kill. don't defang their offense and make them easier to kill at the same time. they already almost never killed player directly. and the ragdoll was itelf more an annoyance than threat.
>massive buffs to players and nerfs to enemies to make everything easier because the people who play this game are terrible at itokay, I'm intelligent so I expected this>didn't fix the sound quality or terrible bugs and shit framerate or any actual technical problems and actually just made it worseI expected this too, but it's disappointing all the same0/10 patch everything I was worried would happen happened and everything I was worried wouldn't happen did not in fact happen
Here's your retard argument:>war striders have been neutered because they have weak points now and can be killed quickly When in reality>war striders could already be killed instantly from range with AT weapons and all this does is make them quickly killable with more than just a rocket to the fuckIf you want an actual difficult enemy, you have to make it more complex than something you can just tap once with a RR. See Hive Lords, except don't because those are bloated stage hazards masquerading as a boss. You want brand new design such as parts that need to be shot off to expose other parts, and an enemy that can adapt to having those parts removed such as shielding animations or repair protocols.
>>543801073You're right, we should be able to kill a hulk by shooting it's eye with a peacemaker 3 or 4 times too. After all the hulk is only a heavy unit after all. Heavy units are pretty much just chaff in this game at this point. Even two amr shots was just too much for redditors and /hdg/. These new balance changes are fair and fun for the whole family!
You all need to realize that this game is balanced on a controller. AMR one shotting hulks is reasonable when your average player is Joe XStation on their gamepad playing on their TV at 30 fps.
>>543801073>precise weak spot hita very easy to do weak spot hit, especially if you use the n*rah method (point blank magdump) too easy to count as skill expression
>>543801546the ragdoll was extremely annoying that's why they removed it. Just like release gunships it's more fun to have some neutered enemies than some stupid bullshit enemies.
>>543801237You mean how bunker turrets lost their ragdoll effect because redditors and /hdg/ trannies wouldn't stop crying?
>>543801564war striders grenade spam and ragdolling at least gave them some pushback agaist charging the quasar and epoch or backpack reloading in their faces. they really should habve been more threatening than they were with their grenades as the only bot that really could flush you out of cover.
uh ouh moortoguese melty
>>543801791>Some neutered enemiesLOL! Literally every enemy has been neutered at this point.
>>543801681lmao fuck controller players, at most 2 in 10 divers are on console, in a few short years it'll be less than 1 in 10, utterly irrelevant demographic
>>543801581Indeed, good aim and skill should be rewarded instead of enemies being nothing but load out checks. I wonder why /hdg/ struggles with that idea so much
>>543801791okay remove the ragdoll, don't also give them a quick instant death spot in the back. that combines to literally make them even easier than hulks. hulks at least can chase you and spin around fast and enemy that only shows up past D6 shouldn't be an easier hulk.
>>543801983>aim and skillJesus fuck the conceit is real lmao you don't deserve a pat on the back for slotting a bullet into a hulk'a gargantuan eye slit
>>543801983You're right, one peacemaker bullet to a hulk's eye would suffice and would serve as a great reward for player skill.
>>543801954They're still sorta challenging if you bring off-meta loadouts and don't split up I guess.
>>543801791there was nothing wrong with release gunships, you just got rightfully annihilated for refusing to play a hard counter to them ever at all
>>543798767I remember playing D10 bots right after escalation of freedom. That update was peak Helldivers, just absolute perfection. I’d have games that were so intense my adrenaline would be pumping and I’d have to take a break. I haven’t had that experience since buffdivers came out.I still enjoy it because it’s basically a party game now and I can hop on and TK my friends in funny ways, but it’s sad to see its true potential was only realized for a short time. I wish there was a legacy client or something.
If every enemy in this game doesn't have a sub one second TTK to light weaponry then I'm gonna shit my pants, stomp my feet, and review bomb the game. And no, I'm not a bad player, I just want the game to be fair and fun!
>nerftranny chimpoutKekarooo
>killed a fleshmob with libconc faster than the stalwart at max rpmcool
>>543801564AT is cumbersome and shit against crowds and other lesser enemies, taking it is a trade off against taking an AP4/3 weapon that deals with them. Weapons are ment to have strengths and weaknesses. Thus W.Striders are now neutered because everyone can kill them instantly, yes. Are you stupid?
>one amr round to kill hulks>one railgun round to kill warstriders>Pretty much all stagger removed from bots.>Mfw when bufftrannies are still trying to defend this slopLMAO
MGjeet status: indulged
>>543801279Buffing the Autocannon is a fucking travesty. They said they'd never touch it, and that they'd balance everything else in the game around it. I was tolerant of the addition of the flak mode since that increased its flexibility rather than its raw strength, but this patch goes way too far.
>>543802343
>>543802606>>543802780Well? Which is it. Whose the troon?
>>543802647>AT is bad against crowdsOk? You have a primary, grenades, and 4 stratagems you can adjust to deal with that issue.
>>543802943the european (nerftranny)
>>543802925Ok and? Your fault for not destroying the gunship factories quick enough. Simple and obvious skill issue.
>>543803008by that same token with 3 weapon slots and 4 strategem slots it isn't a huge task to dedicate at least one of those slots to sometthing that can handle enemies best taken out with AT
>>543802925>7 whole gunshipsoh no, they will take less than 25% of an autocannon's total ammo to go down, how the fuck was anyone supposed to counter this?
>>543801564>that epic bufftranny feel when you can finally destroy a detector tower with a peacemaker but it doesn't matter because you could do it with 500kg before anwyay. it's called loadout variety, chud
>>543802168>>543802170>bad faith "arguments" is all the nerftroon can musterSad but expected
>>543802943which one is the phone poster
>>543803008Support weapons are the most impactful, but yes everything is a trade off that makes you lean towards certain role. I am glad thermites don't obliterate entire patrols (yet).
I can't fucking believe the war strider somehow got reddit's ire to the extent it had to be murdered and they completely forgot the dragonroach was ever a thing. at worst they should ahve gotten a similar treatment to dragonroaches.
>>543803361thisyou never were meant to rampage through bots with zero AT on you which is why warstriders were completely fine the way they releasednow they are bitch-made, has-been, nu-heavies like the rest
>>543803172they used to snipe your hellbombs before they could explode remember
>>543803393You just want the game to be easy. Just be honest.
>this patch might be the final straw that convinces nerftrannies to 41% themselvesthank you based arrowhead for this pretty view
By definition, heavies have to be able to tank a lot of hits. If you take that away from them, they're just chaff that's easier to shoot on account of its size. Travesty.
Mildly FUNNY lobbyD10 botsWE'RE DROPPING NEW BIOME AND MISSIONSsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243776803050/76561198205883657
we are going to repeat all this same time next year. even when the enitre playerbase of scrubs are all no-deathing D10
>>543803658If we were never meant to beat bots without AT why were all of them designed to be killed fast and efficiently by non-AT options until the war strider?
>>543803821Ok and?! You would kill them as they spawn from the factory before they could do so. What stupid point are you trying to make? That the enemies should just roll over and require zero thought or tension? Feel like I'm talking to a jeet or bot.
>>543804039>failed
>>543804039FVLL
>>543803950A tranime troon such as yourself is much more likely to commit soduku before anyone else.
>>543804102tanks and especially factory striders took notably more shots to their weakpoints to kill than war striders. like come on nobody was spending 3 whole amr mags on on factory stider belly panels.
>>543804039>Game fucks up while joining>Try to join back>FailedREEEEEE
>bots so powerful they kill you IRL
So hulks and warstriders are just chaff now essentially? Joke game. Helldivers 2 is a party game.
>>543804102because they're the easy/medium mode variants, simple asif this game hadn't betrayed its own identity for mass appeal and d11-15 actually came into being as once intended, obviously the bots in those diffficulties would lose most if not all of those weak spotsthis was the bot gameplay I used to envision and look forward toit fucking cuts deep to know none of it will ever materialize because it might bruise the egos of some worthless gamer dads
Liberators with Hellbombs
>>543804486fake post
So why is it okay for Laser Cannon to instantly kill Hulks but AMR can't?
>>543804486Oh boy here we go again! MORE bot nerfs incoming because redditor troons are LITERALLY dying to harmless enemies!! This game is cooked beyond all belief.
>didn't touch the sway on secondaries or smgsI swear the swiggers are something else
>>543804356Yes they were newfriend. Defanging the factory strider and giving it belly rubs was the main way to deal with them aside from the 500kg before the buff patch because the RR was that bad, termites did barely anything and the Spear needed all its ammo for a single kill. Even tanks were mostly killed by reds or flanking with an AC.
>>543804486>Strongest redditor
Balance changes are all fake and it pisses me off that people don't see it.>Weapons were buffed in a relative way, so they are in the same spots relative to each other>Enemies had their durable buffed so TTKs are basically the same as before the "buff">A few weapons lost their identity>Durabale damage "buffs" in most cases translate to, like, 1 more damage per bullet against the same targets as beforeAnyone noticing a big difference in under performers is Fuck it, people are just gonna reply with how much better it is and cite feelings rather than facts. Because this game's community is basically expert shit eaters and i'm wasting my time. The so over levels are off the charts and people can't see it and it's pissing me off.
>>5438041025 shots to the joint with AC at short range. 9 shots to the leg with AC otherwise (for once a good reason to put AC on full auto, you could do it in like 3 seconds and it was fun). Not as fast as AT weapons but still perfectly reasonable.
>>543804149It filled instantly
>>543804659hulks have been powercrept too much overall>senator going ap4>acid storms making eye slits ap3 (dumb)>bruiser hulk losing its bunker turret>introduction of autocannon stagger rape (now with less body shot rounds to kill)>incel hulk nerfed>jeet hulk pre-nerfed with a front hittable ap2 weak spothonestly who is still having fun killing hulks? they're trash now, a boring obstacle that you thoughtlessly go through the motions for
>>543804980>Enemies had their durable buffed so TTKs are basically the same as before the "buff"So wrong it's embarrassing. The enemies got weaker, and players got stronger. That's how every update has been since the buff patch and how every patch in the future will continue to be. It's a race to the bottom.
>>543805049Not that reasonable once you consider that war strides come in packs of 2 to 4 and were all armed with ragdoll spam weapons
>>543804120If you didn't bring anti tank back then you were dead weight. And if your teammates respawned you too far from your supports when you died you couldn't do anything.Now bots are way too easy and I have to restrict my loadouts so I don't steamroll over them. It sucks that war striders can't kill you anymore but at least I don't get ragdolled every second. I dunno game still hasn't found its goldilocks perfect balance to fun ratio yet. If it weren't for the FRV I would have quit playing.
>>543805332Keep slurping that Alexus shit.
Unironically they're trying to make the game more of a horde shooter than a guerilla warfare title. You have Reddit to blame for this.
>>543805608and thats a good thing.
>>543805424>4 warstriders?>4 railgun shotsThat was easy! No team mates or co-operation required.
>>543804921going after the belly panels with even heavy pen weapons still isn't a "quick kill" even now the RR has the only quick kill on the factory stider. but people acting like 21 HMG shots on the war strider's hip joint is unreasonably long despite tanks taking more shots.
>>543805424I don't think I've ever seen more than one in a patrol. To have more you have to let them pile up from drops. I guess there were these silly POIs with 4 of them but that's it + they don't see you so you could just nuke them with reds so in practice they weren't where people struggled.Also, you aren't alone. Or shouldn't be, at least.
Howdy pardners.Haven't played since early September or so, anything worth coming back to or still nada?
>>543805560Bon voyage!
>>543805608>guerilla warfare title(you) don't even know what this means
>>543804494All heavies are chaff now. It doesn't deserve the heavy classification if it can be oneshot. But that's what bufftroons actually want - Helldivers 2 without any heavies.
>>543805982shit works now
>>543805608No it's a party game now with role play elements.
>>543806125All of them could already be 1-shot, nerffag.
Instead of nerfing the heavies they should just decrease their spawn rates and make the little guys spawn in groups of 500
>>543806125>Unironically deferring to AI to support your argument
>>543806125It's been like this for over a year now, for better or for worse (worse).
>>543805997Hit and run, don't fight the hordes since it's a waste of resources and time, blow up a target and then use a turret or some other shit to distract the enemies and loop around, etc. HD2 basically punished you for trying to dive into conflict head-on since overwhelming force and numbers could devastate you, now between the players and the buffs/nerfs leaving the Bots so mutilated and most of the game in an easier spot besides shitass bricks, you can just dive into the slaughter so long as you're competent and don't stay in one place for too long.
>>543806329dragon roach is the only one that got the correct change
>>543805756Tanks are slow and turn slowly, if you outflanked on to blast its ass you've already won. You can also use cover against them or abuse their minimum range. Meanwhile war strider hips are about as tough as a tanks ass and much smaller while the enemy is much more nimble, ignores cover, spawns in greater numbers and sends you straight to ragdoll pandemonium with all its weapons.Factory striders are fairly rare even on D10, so them taking a while to kill without AT was still reasonable
>>543806265>You could always one shot hulks with the AMR??
>>543806335AI is bad at most things but very good at aggregating information, which is the most crucial step in staking out definitions. Helldivers 2 heavies don't meet the commonly accepted definition of a heavy enemy. Therefore their classification is meaningless. They're chaff that require less aim due to excess attack surface.
>>543806468what you've described is a walking simulator with extra steps
>mfw people say that the railgun fell out of bots meta
>>543806565Respond to this post.>>543804659
>>543806657Embarrassing what this game has become.
>>543806565>with the AMRNo, no dice.Not letting you move the goal posts, little fagboi.You could already 1-shot them with every AT weapon (RR, EAT, Quasar, Epoch, Commando, ect), and the railgun.Adding the AMR to that list makes literally no difference.
>>543806657look how they massacred my boy
>>543806657I will concede this was too far
>>543806657>dude they totally upped the war strider accuracy!!!!!1!
>>543806793>You could already 1-shot them with every AT weaponindeed and that shouldn't be possibled11 and uparmored heavies are what the game needs most right now but swedes will miss the call by catering to plebbit yet again
>>543806657>war strider is now as lethal as the rest of the nerfed-to-hell botsis this really bad? don't they just fit in with the rest of the faction now?
>>543807010they lock onto player feet, and if that's invisible, they have trouble.i do die to them a lot more often on open field now though, so the accuracy claims have some merit
>>543806538more nimble but they still aren't nimble. as shit like>>543806657 show the ragdolling was the only thing they had going for them when they were agro'd onto you. othher you can just sit there from the FRONT.
>nerftroons get their way>playerbase craters >buffchads get their way>playerbase soars back up over 100kThe real question is: why does Sweden keep falling to the nerftroons?You'd think they could recognize the pattern at this point...
>>543805225AP4 Senator was a colossal mistake, and so was listening to Redditors when it came to the Eruptor.
>>543802647>AT shit against crowdsWut. I love HE RR.
>>543806936Are you sure? You don't wanna be one of those "nerftroons" do you? That webm is peak gameplay! All redditors and /hdg/ would agree as much.
>>543807132>is this really bad?if not to say disastrousbots are the opposite of what they should have become, some reverse Darth Vader shit
>>543807131>>543807312holy seethe
>>543807267What do you mean? They've been catering to bufftrannies for over a year now. Look here: >>543806657
>>543802780Until they make individual enemies stronger at higher difficulties instead of just more I don't care. Zero satisfaction using AT because you kill a big enemy just for 4 more to be walking up behind it.
>>543807267>appeal to popularitypoint and laugh, the bufftoddler is running out of half limp arguments
>>543807267they are well aware. that's the meaning behind the "6 million CoD players" quote. one of them is the audience they want and have been courting since HD1. the other is an audience that stumbled onto the game but they don't actually want. the only reason the buffs-only crowd egets thrown any bones isn because there's money in catering to the masses.
>>543807267>playerbase soars back up over 100kholy delulu
>>543807345yeah, well, sorry anon, but bots got memed as the real hard shit from the start thanks to the creek, so now they have to be made cannon fodder so botdivers can have some weird sense of superiority over everyone else by beating a casual baby race that everyone has emperor's-new-clothes'd themselves into insisting are actual the hard mode of the game
>>543807724not like bugs and squids aren't equally trivial
>>543804486>Nigga that's epilepsy vulnerable plays a videogame about explosions and gunfire.They don't need to have a seizure warning because it's fucking obvious if you have a functioning brain, which that guy clearly did not since he had epilepsy.
>>543807847at that point it's just natural selection running its course
>Everything has weak points>Dedicated anti-armor heavy weapons like the Spear and RR are completely unnecessary Please introduce higher difficulties that add new more armored enemy varieties that necessitate either anti-tank or painful amounts of durable damage to kill. If you do not want to see these enemies, please play on a lower difficulty.
>>543806657Is this an enemy from the faction with heavy armor but weak spots getting killed by a hit to the weak spot? AIIIEEER SAVE ME SWIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSANE!!!!!
Thinking about this, War Strider joint/leg meta made perfect sense if you care about bots' overarching "design philosophy" (idgaf personally but w/e, people here bring it up constantly like some fetish). This was the main way you'd kill the lesser ones for most of the game's lifespan - shooting crotch/legs. Later on the rocket gimmick became more viable but still.
>>543808110That argument isn't valid if the "weak spot" is ridiculously easy to hit. If you can reliably hit a weak spot every single time, it's not an armored enemy.
They're gonna make it so you can't cllmb on top of the FRV next because brainlets are too retarded to go into settings to turn off autoclimb. Just watch.
>>543808128scout striders also have a purely cosmetic heatsink on their ass just like war striders but peoiple only complained about that for the big brothers.
>>543808087>loadout checks are difficult
>>543808289>MY arbitrary definition of what is armored is right and no one else!!!
>>543808550Not him but you just want the game to be easy. Just admit it. Just be honest.
>>543806657I mean war striders do replace hulks in their seeds
>>543808319the supply rack climb obviously was removed to thwart climbers, not help retards
>>543808550>Enemy has a 10x10 glowing weak spot directly on the front vulnerable to AP3>"""Armored"""
>>543808708This game isn't for you. Just admit it. Just be honest.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243782047792/76561197995866779D10, lobby voteswe are serving the ummah and freeing the lands for the sons of allahbring your ak-47's, dynamite, revolvers, portable hellbombs and technicals because this is a jihadi lobby
Vgh... Hulks were so much more engaging during the stun grenade meta...
>>543808808>Enemy's entire body is covered in heavy armor save for the weak point, requiring you to avoid shooting the armorArmored
>>543804659
>>5438089283/4
>>543808550look nigger not that anon but if you had to fight a medieval knight and his armor exposed a fuckhuge hole in his belly for you to ram your pike right into you would question the sanity of whoever designed that armorwhat the fuck would be the issue with a fully ap4 or ap5 front armored hulk if it only spawned on high diffs?you could still flank it, or God forbid, diversify your cringecore dakkamaxxer loadout with just one AT item
>>543805225You forgot AP4 body
>>543808928full
>>543809096And again, if the weak spots are so massive and easy to hit that you can reliably hit them 95% of the time, what's the fucking point of it being armored at all? Why would anybody carry a dedicated heavy AT weapon if an AMR or railgun can reliably and consistently one tap anything up to a factory strider or bile titan from the front?
>>543808826Just be honest, bro. You want the game to be easy. Nothing wrong with it. But just admit it.
>we pervert the tactical sandbox into a hordeslop in which the quality of your loadout is informed by how spammable it is>this is good for loadout diversity>this is fun
>>543809360You know knight helmets have eye slits right? Convient holes in the armor for you to stick a pike into but that have to exist for the armor to be usable at all
>>543804039Absolute cinemaLiterally
>>543809579Raise the difficultyuse a controller
>>543802925Oh an actual use for airburst?
>>543809751bad comparisoneye slits were smallhulk slits are the size of dinner plates
>>543808779no they don't. hulks and warstriders have always appeared together. it's tanks that stop showing up in war strider seeds. like seriously any bot diver would see that immediately so i don't get how the claims gets passed around so much.
>>543809360The issue with a fully AP4 or 5 hulk is that it will always face you and you never have access to his back weakspot. Do we really want to go back to the 4 RR meta on the bot front again?
>>543809747>tactical sandboxlol>quality of your loadout is informed by how spammable it issame as HD1 then, where you could take 4 of the same barrage and have fun and it was actually better loadout than most of them?easiest way to do d15 cyborgs was to run around doing objectives while spamming AT minesif anything loadout diversity is a joke, it was a joke in HD1 where every meta slave was running rumbler and HD2 is actually more diverse as the loadouts go
>>543809747there's 6 million potential EDF players out there that refuse to play edf instead because they don't want japanese stuff.
>>543810303I do>>543810334fuck HD1
>>543809920Hulk slits are small relative to the hulk itself. Calling that badly armored is like saying battleships are badly armored because the main belt only covers the midship
>>543810303that's basically all 4 players in every bot dive already. . everyone loves RR mostly because you got a blob a 4 running around destroying every fab from across the map.
>>543810349It's that, and because EDF has "crappy PS2 graphics">meanwhile, they play HD2 on lowest with blurry as fuck upscaling because of how retardedly intensive it can be
>Flamethrower buffIm going to have to reinstall now I guess.
>update took five, maybe ten minutes >patch has last over several hours
Tick tock SmelldiversYour end is coming
>>543811121You should put more effort into your gens robutt it ain't that hard to smooth details out with impainting or photoshop
>>543810454I disagree strongly. If a mediocre as fuck player like me can tap fifty hulks in a row without as much as a hint of a whiff it means there's a massive problem.
>>543809747/hdg/ lobbies and they few /coop/ ones before this general took off made this game always feel like a hordeslop to me. But in a fun way, I don't mean to make that sound like a bad thing.
>>543810349I played EDF once. it felt awful. Everything was floaty and the sound design was like someone playing sounds while inside a cardboard box. It also had classes AND I FUCKING HATE CLASSES WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING. I dunno if things have changed since.
>>543811362Why does the rat game still get an equal amount of content as the space game?
>>543811412you don't know the depths of AI sloppa cuckold's dementia I thinkhe genuinely believes that human-made images are sacrilege, and that the privilege should be reserved for soulless algorithms
>>543811657>AND I FUCKING HATE CLASSES WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEINGhonestly why i dropped alien fireteam elite when i didlack of content outside of "promethean" crap didn't help either
>>543811693Rat game is better
onononononoo
>>543811890There are many PvE games i'd give a chance if they were like helldivers and had no classes. Shit's obnoxious.
>>543812114truly a game for no one
>>543812114How did they manage to mess up a 40k horde sloppa, it's a free money printer
>>543812305I wanted to make a joke at SM2's expense but it turns out it's doing better than fucking Darktide hahahahahaha
>>543812305They didnt. Warhammer is a niche franchise. Then tack on the fact you dont play SPEECE MUH WEENS onto it. But even then, Space Marine 2 has similar player numbers. Warhammer is niche in video games. Thats it. Unless youre counting the total war games when that arguably plays more like the tabeltop version.
>someone makes a Justice mod right as the Justice is leaked
>>543812114>>543812426turns out 40k is a niche interest that gets spammed by a bunch of autists. who knew?
>>543812305>Make a horde shooter with the good guy horde faction as the protagonists instead of one of the many many good guy elite factions>Make your 40k game be about melee slapping enemies instead of shooting>Have three tilesets with like 2 variations each and never make more
>>543812628>>543812517
>>543811730No I'm saying this as an anon whose used sloppa himself for making porn of niche characters I like. I have respect for drawfags but I'm fine with using AI for porn as it's equally as soulless.
What's puzzling about any of this? 99% of live service multiplayer sloppa dies down like these games.
>>543812628>>Make your 40k game be about melee slapping enemies instead of shootingYoure a tourist.>>Have three tilesets with like 2 variations each and never make more>>Make a horde shooter with the good guy horde faction as the protagonists instead of one of the many many good guy elite factionsYou dont play the game. In fact I doubt you even know what a single characters name is.
>>543812524That's just a Libreaker
>>543810349EDF is shit, sorry to inform you.
>>543812628Maybe they thought playing something else than marines would make for a nice change of pace? Every other 40k game is mehreens front and center
>>543812524>bullpup
Remember when EDF tried to push their game as competition to HD2? Kek that was a flood one.
>>543812908So what do you think HD2 will be after they continue making it more like EDF
>>543812524That's a FAMAS
>>543812678100k concurrent players on steam is something like 10 million sales.
>>543813091A better EDF in that case.
>>543810156
>>543813127Okay? Whats your point?
>>543813051EDF fags*Good*
>>543813127I don't think so. Last dragon age game had almost these numbers and they had to shut down the studio.
>>543784153Am I going nuts or does this feel like the actual armor got AI generated or something? There's something uncanny about the way the armor works on the right, especially the legs.
>>543813127Who told you that, the veilguard copers?
Chink in my lobby started spawning credits pod call-ins
>>543813148>a better shit game
>>543812517>Helldivers 2 Lets you imagine literally anyone under the armor>everyone is equally expendable but also capable of heroic acts against impossible odds>in Darktide you're gutter trash leeching equipment off pitifully weak armed forces fighting hordes of zombies, brain-rotted soldiers, and mindless Daemon thralls>in Space Marine 2 you're giant juiced up mutant eunuch made for war fighting an enemy so numberless they darken the sky itself with sheer volume and dying makes you look like a total retardGee I wonder.
>>543775321>>543775534You made me go back and watch the trailer for Into The Unjust. Youre wrong, a Dragonroach never gets grounded. Maybe you thought the Bile Titans in the video were a grounded roach?Youre fucking dumb.
>>543808928back to 3/4join join join!!!gacrux d10
>>543808326Because baby striders either have the trooper pilot exposed right there to kill or rockets that also damage other enemies near it, both of which are light pen vulnerable. Weakspots being a little counterintuitive are okay as long as the real weakspots actually exist.
>>543813570What the fuck are you babbling about? Im not talking Helldivers vs 40k>fighting an enemy so numberless they darken the sky itself with sheer volume and dying makes you look like You dont play the game. If you did youd have realized fthat Darktide actually has higher horde count than SM2 but I'm not entirely surprised youre just talking out of your ass.>>in Darktide you're gutter trash leeching equipment off pitifully weak armed forces fighting hordes of zombies, brain-rotted soldiers, and mindless Daemon thrallsAgain, you dont play the game. Or you got filtered on Sedition.
>>543812114>>543812305Because the game was a literal dumpsterfire on release.Name literally anything that could go wrong and it did with that game.>Game breaking bugs>Unoptimized>Undercooked>Horrible balance>Broken promises from the devs>Straight up lied about content>Gacha slop in a P2P game>Worse gameplay than VermintideThat shit game actually fried my sound drivers so hard that i had to get a new motherboard.Recently just reinstalled it because it got crossplay and my mates wanted to play it and it's a much better game now, probably on par with Vermintide but the damage has been done and it's well deserved.No amount of explaining how cooked the game was at release will ever properly convey how bad it actually was.It has practically been in alpha up until very recently.FatShark is the entire reason why people make fun of sweds for not being able to make videogames.
>>543808928still 3/4starting soon
Fatshark, paradox, arrowhead... It's weird how Swedes make for such horrible devs yet find big success anyway
>>543813570subject delta lookin ahh
>>543811121Urkel says: "S-Stop having sex with white men!"
well frens, did they save the game?
>>543814613Yeah we're just having fun being contrarians
>>543814613No.
>>543814613They didn't fix something of the most important stuff, half the notes are just shit like 10 more damage and slightly increased durable damage 20 times over. Also they nerfed SMGs again when they were already the weakest weapon category
>>543814613fuck no
>>543808928yeah we're still 3/4
>>543814613lmao no
>>543814469They make good games no matter how hard faggots try to deny it.
>>543814613If this was the first part of a thunderous stampede of updates then yesBut we all know they're just gonna take another vacation
>>543814024No that's Overkill.
>>543815691where I come from "good" has a lot of overlap with "high quality"
If the new armour passive is anything like active camo I'm going to cum.
>>543815691They make good games but then end up ruining them post launch.
>>543815691Too bad all of their games are plagued by bugs
>>543816026Counterpoint: Darktide.Paradox games are dogshit at release too and only become palpable to the people who like them after 50 DLCs.
>>543804039GGs
>>543815956man I wish I could be as optimistic as you anon. I expect another lame frankenstein sidegrade perk. maybe reduced detection range combined with some random other buff like bleed prevention or throwing range.
This is a co-op game where people refuse to co-op. Is it an extraction shooter? Is it a horde shooter? Should fitting either genre handcuff it's gameplay? People act like this game is designed to be played solo when it specifically is not. People claim that having Tank enemies kills loadout diversity. Because people want to bring ANY gun to kill ANY enemy. These people actually think having to bring ONE of a dozen guns or 2 dozen stratagems "kills" loadout diversity. This is a PVE co-op game. The hardest difficulty should require coordination of loadout and gameplay or very high FPS skills. Not having a weakpoint is a design choice, not a flaw. It is not objectively wrong that the warstrider "didnt match" other bots. Yes, i believe that on difficulty 8,9 or 10 that 1 or 2 team members should HAVE to bring anti tank weaponry or stratagems.Fuck i miss HD1. I miss HD2. It started to fade away over a year ago. I wish helldivers 2 was still difficult. I wish players who only want to run light pen and jetpacks would just stick to level 6. I miss when Arrowhead didnt believe that every player deserves to solo diff 10 with any loadout
>>543808289Breh, if you can reliably hit that little red glowing dot on the front of the strider with a single shot within a second or two before the thing notices you or some other bot starts attacking you than good for you, but the problem is that most of the playerbase is not as skilled as I presume you and the other people bitching about the nerfs in this thread are.A game like this cannot be balanced around the abilities of 1% of it's audience.
>>543816565Cry me a river nerftroon
Wait which eye is it for the one shot? The one on the left or the top one
>>543813870>higher horde countI'm talking about how the game presents Tyranids. Presentation is important for the unenlightened normalfag masses. >you dont play the game. Or you got filtered on SeditionThe first thing you're shown and told in Darktide is you're a lowly criminal only allowed to fight and die because an Inquisitor thinks it's more prudent to waste penal troops on suicide missions than more capable forces. They call you reject constantly and you're basically treated like shit by everyone. Again presentation matters.
>>543816565Hard mode: Make a hard difficulty that is fun without relying on cheap ragdolls and random one-shots.
>>543816537You're right I am being too optimistic. It is far more likely to be something dumb like that stuff.
>>543812305The actual issue with warhammer games is that the gameplay loop isn't fun in an addictive way. And some of them tend to get really annoying and obnoxious really fast as well.All the games are carried by the stories and the universe, and even the music. But they cannot come up with fun gameplay loops and power fantasies at all. Helldivers 2? Literal who franchise. But guess what? The game is fun and the gameplay loop is amazing.
>>543816710>"THE GAME IS BETTER IF YOU PLAY MAKE BELIEVE!">The first thing you're shown and told in Darktide is you're a lowly criminalYou. Dont. Play. The. Game.
>be Swedish company>your lead programmer knows an obscure game engine>make fun coop game on it>smash hit>lead programmer retires>no one knows anything>make dogshit sequel>everyone says SWEDEGROID RETAR OOK OOK>give up and start making content for your old gamename that company.
>>543816897Overkill. Happened twice now.
Long live the lava FRV
>>543816224Stellaris lost most of its coolest systems since launch and gets completely reworked every other year. God I miss tiles
>>543817003I really don't like that you are allowed to do that without even losing all your tires.
>>543817003I would say, something something realism, but it's obviously just reskinned water.
>>543817065>"Im a tourist and im upset the game changed for the people that actually played the game longer than 5 hours"
>>543817178I jumped into the pool of lava and can confirm that it's ankle deep everywherevery disappointing
>>543816813>I AM SILLY strawman>you're not a reject in Darktide Ah, I see you game now.
>>543817003>play on unfinished biome>hey guys look how unfinished this unreleased dev-only biome is!
>>543816693You will never be a woman
>>543816565Helldivers 2 is a tactical shooter with sandbox + horde elements as well as a massive identity crisis.Originally teamwork was meant to be induced by the need to cover each other's butt cracks from bot/bug rape but lol lmao every threat got nerfed so excessively that nearly everyone instinctively starts their own one man band each mission, joining squads for no other reason than immersive radio chatter ASMR + more medals/credits/exp. Synergizing gameplay is entirely optional, a bit of a waste of time even.
so, are we FEELING the buffs?
>>543817003Rubber is vulcanized after all
>>543817293Tell me you got filtered before reaching level 30 without telling me
>>543817123If you stay in the lava for more than a few seconds straight, it explodes
>>543817346nah the game is more fun when you stick together
>>543816897>>>543816975overkill is even worse. those dumb fucks jumped to unreal and came crawling back to payday 2 kek they have modder volunteer jannies fixing payday 2 now because 3 flopped hard
>>543817429That's even more shit.
>>543817335
>>543817429when I'm in the worst cut webm competition and my opponent is this guy
>>543817003Bro casually recreating that scene from Dante's Peak where #1 slampig appreciator Pierce Brosnan drives his truck over lava.
>>543817668I hit the clip button too early every single time
True or false?Helldivers 2 is a co-op game
>>543792594I don't really care tbdesu. None of them are primaries I use anyways, and no change made to them will change that. The Punisher Plasma is the only buffed weapon I care about, and even that's just a fringe option for me for when I want to use the speargun
>>543817867trueit's unfun to solo and having bad teammates is worse than solo
>>543817867It depends on how you want to play it.
>>543816712Easy, revert to 1.5 years ago but to appease you we remove the 2 or 3 ragdoll "issues" that bothered people like you.One shots are fine on high difficulty when you can be revived and re-euipped in seconds. Only the leviathan pre-flashlight had the ability to surprise one shot you.Do you believe you should always be allowed to wear light armor and die just as much as heavy armor?
>>543778482Wake me up when a throwable comes out stronger than Thermite.
>>543817003sweet n64 textures
>>543814613NoThe core issues are still broken, fixing war striders is only cool if you can fucking play the game
>>543780727The enemy nerfs are pointless. I would like the bile dragon wing health pool if when you destroyed the wings it fell to the ground and continued attacking.I did notice they buffed just as many enemies as they nerfed, such as broodmasters and scout striders being less vulnerable to fire.
Man I miss the 4 AC meta, now that was real teamplay
>>543818071>conveniently omits how the reason why people ran light armor back then was because you also got one-shot in heavy armor
>>543818074>c4 backpack strategem doesn't get used just as an objective boomer, but people treating it like an auxiliary throwable that totals everything
>>543817867It's a party game, fun for all ages.
>>543817398if by feeling you mean being a bit disgusted and confused by then yes
>>543818074Actually the dynamite kinda is now. The dynamite is now effectively a 500 for the purposes of objectives, meaning it frees a strat slot for people glued to the 500. Which is the same thing the Thermite does, just with a different area of focus. They're both portable, miniature stratagems now. I think Thermite is still better, but it's entered the realm of it depending on your loadout.
>>543818325>Implying a small fire buff is anywhere equal to the massive nerfs the enemies received. Ridiculous cope.
lobbytesting patch shitbugs or squid defensesteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243787153020/76561198008364447
>>543801279>weapon that wastes your backpack slot>weapon found lying all over the battlefieldstill never choosing either of these in my loadout, ever
>>543801546Warsteider nerf is gay as fuck. Removing ragdoll from the grenades was fine and I even like that. All the other nerfs are for sissy garbage troons.
>>543818570Sweden
>>543818330You know, youre right on that point. I agree, the game absolutely had flaws on launch. Things like armor and status effects had to be fixed because they did not work as intended.Enemies, revert enemies and their health, damage and accuracy.
>>543817482if you play this game like any other co-op shooter, it is ridiculously easy.once upon a time, it was a great co-op experience. Then the game was rebuilt for the large influx of people who:>have never played a shooter before>have never played a multiplayer game before>have never played a video game beforeand then they added power creep on top of this. I'm not sure who enjoys standing around throwing orbital napalms at breaches/drops, but there used to be a lot more to the game than this - and some genuinely tense and memorable moments
>>543803654dragon wings now have a health pool, makes them way more vulnerable
The game was so much better during the dive forward with your RR leg meta
>>543818596ah the back slot straw, scrumptious and eager for grasping>stratagem that shoots things for you when shooting is already this easy>ammo crutch when the game already constantly shoves yellow boxes up your ass>protective stratagem when enemies barely get to threaten you anymore>movement stratagem when there's nothing to dodge and no interesting territory to traverse>hellbomb you don't need
>Players joining my SOS on D10 bugs "knock down the infested buildings" mission about 6 minutes into the mission.>I'm already about to extract, with the pelican like just about landing.>Autists want to clear the rest of the map instead of just leaving the mission/getting in the fucking pelican, so I'm just sitting at extract either AFK or fighting off patrols that find there way to me.I can't with this playerbase. I'd bother to full clear, but since I learned that doesn't actually affect liberation at all I just focus main objective then fuck off.
>>543819185Correct.
>>543819185>>543819312You only liked it because you felt like you had some esoteric knowledge that made you "better" at the game.Shut the fuck up.
>>543819305it does affect liberation
>>543818570FVLL
>>543819382>Actually defending the current state of the game and genuinely seething over it.Really pathetic.
>543819304when the gun is so bad that its internet defense force must reply to any snarky remarks about the gun
>>543819587>No rebuttal or counter argumentReally pathetic.
>megumin hellbomb mod broken and not updatedis there even a reason to play the game?
The game was so much better when the scopes were misaligned and the mechs didn't shoot were the reticle was (intended game design)
>>543818330ThisLight armor was meta because armor did nothing, and people have never quite adjusted to armor actually working. Light is honestly kinda ass for most fronts. Illuminate is the only one I'd even really consider it. Padded light is decent, but real armor perks are good, and padded medium is a better overall experience, since getting above 100 is what makes you resist headshots. Heavy is probably the best feeling armor sets. You have to get over the survivorship bias of times you take damage, and feel like it's the armor's fault, until you realize you just aren't dying, and all those times you are taking damage, you were just dying before. The Butcher set makes you nearly fucking invincible. The fukkin, Truth Enforcers medium sets are amazing. Fortified Heavy makes you nearly immune to bots. You just stop dying in heavy armor. Full stop. You get blanket resistance to elemental damage, too. You go from dying the moment fire touches you, to being able to quickly do one thing before you even need to dive or jab. Especially if you already run the jump/warp pack, there's basically no reason to not at least bump up to medium.
>game actually runs good now
>>543819689the gun is great, perhaps you are the problemyou must be terribly lonely if dogshit contrarian takes like that are among your usual habits
>>543819732Youre not JapaneseYoure not a kid or teenagerYoure a grown fucking manYoull live without your stupid japanese cartoon shit.
>HMG vs war striders pre-patch> https://streamable.com/a85fyhthis was apparently too hard for most players
>>543819716>His "rebuttal" was "muh dive with rr'" while ignoring all the other current problems of the game's difficulty design.Extremely pathetic. Why aren't you playing right now? They made the game super epic just for you and gave you the power fantasy you always wanted.
>>543818586i hope these overlay a decent/matching helldiver on MY PC
I wish the MG was good
>>543820014Your opening argument isnt a rebuttal.
>>543819304So YOU are the fucker stealing all the supplies, not advancing, and waiting for someone else to push for you then?
>>543819937Yeah it was fine. I appreciate mag dump enemies, it's fun but people are too scawwed of running out of ammo.
>>543819937obviouslyasking a redditor to do that is like trying to make a Toyota Corolla break the sound barrier
>>543817663male children aren’t women you diseased pedophile KYS
>>543819492It does not.
>>543820110Neither was yours. Deflecting the current state of the game by bringing up the dive meta is retarded and desperate.
>>543819937>Redditors and /hdg/ actually struggled to do that.Most pathetic fanbase in gaming history.
>>543819304Autocannoncucks, everyone. Wew.
>>543808928good games anonsthey never saw it coming
>>543819492>>543820348All your arties were loooooaded for nothing but autism. Sorry.
Nerftroon already back at seething lmao
holy shit they nerfed bots to the ground
>>543819937Aren't these clips somewhat misleading? There are barely any other enemies around for these examples and when there are the player almost got sawn in half by a single berserker because he was focus firing on the strider.It doesn't seem like something you could consistently repeat in average d10 conditions
>>543820132>mmm, yummy supplies
>>543820132No. AC is an outrageously efficient stratagem. You can easily BTFO a hundred enemies with one clip if you got the right situation in front of you. When used in smart ways AC saves you resources on all your other killing tools. Feels much more rewarding than brute forcing shit with the supply pack which wil get you silently judged for ether using or not using the exploit.
>>543774189wtf is this redacted regiment shit?
>>543820348Stars at the end of the mission and side objective completion affects liberation, completing all side objectives grants as much liberation % as completing all main objectives and it adds up, the other things that affect liberation is everyone coming back alive in the pelican and the timer not being at 0%
>>543819937Damn dude, I was mag dumping my HMG hitting him in the joint where an EAT would go, I didn't know shooting his armored looking leg would kill him faster
>>543820910black ops warbond leaked
>>543819937>hiding the difficulty indicator
>>543820317>>543817663
>>543820946>Stars at the end of the mission and side objective completion affects liberationThis. Is. Not. How. The. Game. Works. And it hasn't worked that way since the early parts of this year. Sometime around spring, they changed it so only main objective rewards liberation. Nothing else matters. They did this in part as a swedish way of giving the fuck up because they are inept and keep having missions that cannot be 5 starred due to having random non-rendering side missions that would affect liberation otherwise. So instead, they just it made it so your only criteria for liberation is completing the main objective and that's it.
>>543821124>put him in an asylum he doesn’t want to mutilate and sexualize children left wing fantasy is a twilight zone episode
>>543820405My argument was that you didnt actually like the way the game played but what "social" status it gave you by being aware of janky mechanics so you can feel like you can lord over peopleShut the fuck up. I know how you "people" think.
>>543820802Nerftroon doesn't play D10. He will spend all day here saying the game is too easy though
>>543819739Yes, ignore the fact that all weapons do nearly double damage (or more) while every enemy has had its health and survivability decreased. Keep pretending people actually miss the bugs and errors when they say they miss the "good ol days". Of course aspects of the game have improved. The game is literally half as hard as when it launched. Just using pure numbers its less than half as hard.Do people think no one completed missions the first 6 months?My friends and i played a bunch (when the game wasnt crashing) and were able to clear level 9 before a single nerf or buff hit the game. It was always doable. I rarely have better than a 1.3 or 1.8 KD in COD or BF and yet somehow, me and my buddies did fine in helldivers.Almost like we never needed to double player damage or nerf enemies.It might be because we actually played co-op instead of instantly seperating and playing our own mini solo missions...
>>543821275>what if the jet brigade was cool
>>543820946>>543820764
>>543821243>He doesnt understand what the image is conveyingHoly shit you are retarded.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243788439513/d10 lobby votes
>>543821293You don't anything you stupid nigger. We have ten modes and not one them is allowed to be ball busting hard. That's the problem, that's always been the problem since the buff patch dropped. All you did was bring up a retarded strawman argument. Nobody plays this game for status, they play for fun. But a game with zero challenge is not fun.
You retards that think "do this and this and this rewards more liberation" when you can full clear a map and then speedrun main objective in the next and both have the same liberation # at the end are like the kids back in the day that blew into their cartridges and thought that actually made their games run better. Same superstitious retardation.
>>5438214932/4 hop in
>>543821337I don't play much anymore because it's too easy. It's honestly more entertaining just to post in here now.
>>543819937What's stopping you from doing this now
>>543821582Plenty of people have fun with the current HD2. Probably more than if weirdos like you that want the game to be a CBT simulator had their way
>>543821582>You don't anything you stupid nigger.>We have ten modes and not one them is allowed to be ball busting hardSo you think weird esoteric mechanics that make no sense = difficulty?>That's the problem, that's always been the problem since the buff patch dropped. All you did was bring up a retarded strawman argument.Youre not even talking about the same thing anymore. What the fuck are you even yapping about? Take your fucking meds.>Nobody plays this game for status, they play for funNow youre being disingenuous.> But a game with zero challenge is not fun.Leaping forward and shoot = challenging to you?
>>543804980Doomer. Yeah most of the changes aren't moving the needle but a few definitely are. Plasma Punisher and Slugger feel fucking LEAGUES better than before and that's a win in my book for the severely underperforming nature of both these weapons.
>>543821928>Muh old HD2 was CBTYou're really telling on yourself when you say stuff like that.
>>543820910It's the new slopbond that they said they were pushing back but are shitting out anyway.
>>543821053>>543822025So a CoD Warbond? That OP image is real?
>>543821948You play HD2 for "status"? What the fuck does that even mean, you freak? And one tapping a hulk with the AMR = fun to you?
>>5438214932/4 PUREI ZA GEIMU
>>543821928There are mobile games for people who want anything their cursor touches to pop. This is a game built for a niche audience that enjoyed HD1. Its been changed to make money and appeal to a broad audience of casuals
the liberator carbine got me movin like an invasive species
>>543821948ad hominem. nobody is defending the dive jank, but it coincided with the time when this game was at its peak.
>>543822126no, not CoD, just helldivers but as clandestine operators
I just ran away from the enemies and it always worked
>>543822196HD1 was hardly a super difficult game either. Which you'd know if you had played it instead of pretending to be an old fag
>>543822298You have discovered The Secret.
>>543822258He knows that but he is being obtuse on purpose. Bufftroons never argue in good faith.
>>543821493full
>>543822126>>543822278also yes the leak is consistent with frehly mined data
>>543821582>"a game with zero challenge is not fun"Man, I remember when every single board game where you just roll dices died 20 years ago because they had no challenge, you just roll dice! There's no challenge in those, it just isn't fun! Or stuff like Jackbox or skribbl.io, those games aren't fun, no challenge at all!!!
>>543822561Nonsensical post.
>>543822667Nonsensical post
>>543822512Cool I guess. I expected a new warbond sometime soon but I wasn’t going to hold my breath before a month went by after this patch. Maybe I’ll be wrong and it’ll get announced on Tuesday for a following Thursday release.
>>543822667But that's your train of thought, isn't it? If it doesn't have any challenge, it isn't fun, right?
>diverdads is now resorting to "no u!".Bufftroons are something else.
>>543822185>You play HD2 for "status"?Where did I say that? Where did I say I play for status?
>>543822832Those are party games, not Co op shooter games. But I understand why you're confused since you so desperately want hd2 to become a full blown party game.
>>543822258>>543822482>nobody is defending the dive jankHe specified the dive mechanic as a stand out feature of that time. Hes 100% trying to defend it.
>>543822561nta but games are a very scientifically quantifiable thingnothing defines games as much as their goals and obstaclesboil it down to the basics of game theory and those two things are what Helldivers 2 fails atthe obstacles cannot stop you and the goals don't feel substantial because they're accessible to any blithering retard, failure essentially isn't part of the experience unless you lonewolf dive with minimal/zero defensive itemsthe highest difficulty shouldn't have a success rate in excess of 90%, it should be more like 50%, it's better to be exhilarated half of the time than be bored all of the time
>>543822887>diverdads are now*Why do nerftroons type like ESLs?
>>543822897You implied that some people do which is ridiculous. Nobody plays this game for status except sloptubers. You accused me of playing for status just because I want the game to have some challenge.
Alright nope y'all are fuckin tourists and I'm Doug Dimmadone with this fucking narrative about bots. LAUNCH BOTS ONLY REQUIRED AP4. You could ALWAYS get away with quickly downing any launch bot with the AMR, LC, and AC. Hulks could always be shot in the coin slot. Tanks always had their rear heatsinks. That was fucking it for launch heavies by the way. This fucking myth about AT on bots is fucking insane and literally came from redditors who pissed and shit themselves so hard that the entire game got balanced around the Recoilless Rifle. And it became the retards solution to every enemy because of fucking course it would, making said retards think that because they couldn't put a round peg in a round hole before, that they HAD TO TAKE ANTI TANK ON BOTS because THEY THEMSELVES were so fucking garbage that they never figured out how to kill a Hulk or a Tank with AP4. If someone is arguing that AT was ever REQUIRED on bots, they are tourist reddit FUCKS and should be thrown in the surstromming basements. This is not to say, by the way, that AT was not useful. It was. It was much easier to take out tanks and hulks with AT weapons... Almost like it still fucking is. Absolute fucking insanity.
Thank God Swedes don't listen to 4chin nerftroons and all they can do is is impotently seethe for eternity
>>543823372>>543823372>>543823372>>543823372>>543823372migr8
>>543823245>You implied that some people do which is ridiculous.
has there really been an uninterrupted six hour gucchimpout for almost the entire lifespan of the thread? how has he restrained himself from spamming child porn and schizophrenic FFXIV bot pastas in that time?
>>543823331the game will die and (You) will be sorry
>>543823470I was surprised as the lack of modbeast lala spam.
>>543823470Cp spamming is more of a bufftroon maneuver.
>>543823065>He specified the dive mechanic as a stand out feature of that timewrong. nobody did this. take your meds
>>543823559It would've died a year ago if AH listened to nerftroon
>>543823740>>543819185>The game was so much better during the dive forward with your RR leg metaHe specified this mechanic as the one that stands out the most to him. He obviously holds it in high regard.
>>543823313The issue with the old ANTI-TANK supports is that they didn't feel like ANTI-TANK weapons.It was either faster or as fast to instead use railgun or AMR or AC.That was people's issue with old AT. I would say they did a good job considering AT didn't entirely replace AP4 supports on all fronts.Of course people are going to use AT more than AP4 because it is easier but that is their choice to make.
>>543823313Excellent post.
What can the Slugger do now?
>>543774919>>543775814you don't play the gameplasma punisher was strictly buffed
>>543782281built for Big Bot Cock
>>543827562It had its heyday. If you weren't there for it then the game will never be in a place like it was then for it to really shine. Blame bot players for getting it maimed.
