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>News
Agent Record | Banyue
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41700148
Agent Record | Dialyn
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41681910
Version 2.3 Special Program
https://youtu.be/uTWIK77TcdI

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/NCzUV95VIEI
https://youtu.be/CQBbCfxIgnY (EN)
https://youtu.be/wutoIFoyZGU (JP)
https://youtu.be/rT6FVNzD02E (EN)
https://youtu.be/G5tW5IGjjk0 (JP)
https://youtu.be/jaxcn1kja9Y (EN)
https://youtu.be/buGfCjPLaZc (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.3
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/160259
All-New Program 10/14 - 11/25
The Inverted Night Lantern 10/14 - 11/24
When Dreams Remain Unfinished 10/17 - 11/24
SNAP! Shining Strike 10/22 - 11/10
Timesworn Hills Explorer's Guide 10/14 - 11/26
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 10/29 - 11/03
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 11/05 - 11/25
Chronicle of Counseling 11/05 - 11/17
141 Eco Art Exhibition 11/12 - 11/24
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 11/19 - 11/24

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ23SWEETILY

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Komano love!
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What would Piper browse on the internet for?
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>>543844832
"it" sure is expanding
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>>543845312
Truck parts, autotrader, bragging on /o/ etc
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Bunny cunny!
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>>543845312
Piper is a facebook MAGA boomer Qtriot.
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>>543844891

CUTE and stinky cute smelly sweaty feet! Cute smelly girlfeets! CUTE!
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>>543845312
Facebook marketplace for transmissions and converters
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I have never done a defensive assist outside of tutorials once in my life

>>543845312
Also Buck-E's
Someone draw Piper in a Buck-E's onesie
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Soon
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>>543845925
This would save the game
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My only complaint with the story this chapter is WHY WOULD YOU NOT IMMEDIATELY FUCKING CALL SHIFU AND TELL HER ABOUT THE TRAITOR
Nooooo, lets sit with our thumb up our ass for another month and the time locked rift opens up so we can sate our curiosity about WHY traitor
Phaethon you fucking moron
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>>543846162
They said at the beginning that she was away on business and couldn't be contacted
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>>543845618
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Everyone loves her
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>>543845925
ENTER
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If there was ever a competitive event where devs voted on best in-game photo taken I know for a fact I'd be top 5 worldwide. I'm autistic as fuck and will take a hundred snaps to get the perfect NPC idle animation alongside the best background placements even with moving objects like windmills and airships. The rarest and often best photos are when you catch the character with closed or half closed eyes for new sleepy or smug expressions
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My soldier wives are so cool!
I love Obol!
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>>543846375
CELLULAR. PHONES.
EMAIL.
A FUCKING BIRD EVEN
Arent they going to a corporate lunch meetup? It's not a wilderness survival camp
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>>543846162
I'm very interested to see how they explain Shiyuan lack of presence.

>>543846375
Anon, I don't think Shifu, Fufu, or Pan would ignore us blowing up their phones with notifications.
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>>543846481
If that isnt future belle and wise then it's definitely their fucking parents or something because the resemblance is uncanny
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>>543846162
>>543846375
She already knows anyway. Shiyuan is almost certainly a double agent, but perhaps the plot twist next patch will be that actually he's a triple agent and betraying them for real.
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>>543846641
>>543846732
I'll take any excuse to not have another Shifu ex Machina moment. Fucking kill her off already, it's getting boring to have her save the day every patch.
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>>543846401
who
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>>543846162
ZZZ writers fucked up so bad with Mary Suxuan. When she saves the day it's boring, when she isn't immediately called in to save the day it makes no sense.

Hope they learn from this.
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>>543846785
The way they bait put his heelturn by mentioning his sister made me think she was deathly ill and they were offering a cure or help, but she's a void hunter?? What possible reason could he have in regards to her to turn heel, unless he resentful of how strong she is and wants it for himself. It's just weird
Maybe he's just going along with them and will nope out to make a report while wise/belle group misunderstands and fucks up trying to hinder him iunno
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>Shifu is here
>complains that she overshadows his favorite
>Shifu is gone
>complains that everyone isn't contacting Shifu
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>>543846785
>SHIFU, thank god we got a hold of you! SHIYUAN IS A TRAI-
>no he isn't, shut up, don't forget to feed A-Shuo k bye
I hate this plot.
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>>543846580
Too late I got your UID
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>>543847010
She's probably cursed or something.
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>>543847020
There's a very good reason why we should be contacting her though.
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>>543846848
I really dont think they're going to kill off or make traitor any playable characters because that fucks with the whole "calling them up for jobs" aspect in the game
You cant call in a dead merc
>>543846995
She'll die and Lucia will probably be a new disciple who ends up inheriting in her own way. It'd also make sense if they expand on inter-faction swapping/interactions
S rank billy might be sons of calidon and all that
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>>543847238
>She'll die
Will never happen. Just another way this genre is hella gimped for telling real stories.
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We love shifu here
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cont from previous thread regarding how much stuff I’ve had since starting
says most of the tapes are either:
>Event Rewards
>Development Rewards
>Hollow Zero Rewards
>Mail Rewards
I definitely don’t remember spending Polys on regular tapes. I did spend some fading signal to buy out the tapes up to the monthly limit , because a guide said it was an ok place to spend it. Residual I’ve been buying Encrypted tapes, and Polys on Encrypted only.
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>>543847118
What does it even matter? I take most all my photos with my handle
>>543847020
My favorite is Yidhari because no joke evey time she's on screen I feel like I'm going to breakdown or my heart will burst
I've never had this reaction to any character in fiction ever, is that bad?
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>>543847010
She uses the Qingming Sword for Void Hunter duties like executing giganigga ethereals. It already claims some of her memories each time, if she keeps it up the sword will utterly pwn her just like it did Yijiang.
There is already a force of nature that empowers memories, you've probably heard of it, it's called Miasma. It's the key to saving her and Exaltists already harness it.
It's a chinkslop reference where both light and dark need to exist in harmony, which is why qingming bird power + miasma formed a yin-yang symbol when Yixuan fought back Mevorahk's vortex.
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>>543847386
No I know, I was saying hypothetically if it DID happen
>>543847149
And knowing the game Sarah probably gave her the curse lmao fucking kill me...
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>>543847403
Yeah you're good then. Go ahead and pull Vivian if you like her, just know you probably won't have a great team with her for a little bit. I think you said you had Grace and she can kind of work with her, Grace is just in a bit of a rough spot right now. Definitely pick up either Banyue or Yidhari in the near future, they'll be good with your Lucia.
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Anby's waist.
Home.
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I have all stable channel Sranks except Soldier11
And honestly I'm kind of fine with that
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>>543848081
You'll regret those words once her buff raises her three tier levels to T2
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>>543847921
Pull 81 YOUR SHININ GOLDEN SIGN
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>>543848163
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>>543848249
Nah I have Seed and Orphie
Enh-eh :^)
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>>543848283
Nice! I wouldn't recommend pulling her engine unless you really really want it. Weeping Gemini is a good enough cope option.
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Is it true Lucia has no jiggle physics?
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>>543848424
no
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>>543848424
no
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>>543848419
Nta but would I be fine rolling the channel knowing itll roll over for Yid'd Sig in a few weeks? Or will her sjg not be a requirement to be at her best?
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>>543848419
I have fusion compiler and rainforest gourmet already, is weeping superior? i can just go to the gadget store and grab it
i’d describe myself as mostly casual, i play for fun and don’t care too much about numbers, i prefer to collect characters and just play content.
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>>543848546
There's no reason to 'build pity' in advance or anything, you can just wait until the thing you actually want is in rotation. If you want to pick up Manato's engine you should pull now and accept the risk you may get one you didn't really want though since it won't be rate up in the second half.
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>>543848646
faggot
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>>543848573
Rainforest is for high energy use characters only, you dont spam Viv's EX as much compared to say Piper, while weeping is better for sustainable dmg buffs for the fight as well as AP stacking for more dmg
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>>543848424
she has no fisics benchod do not redeeming loosia
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>>543848646
Why would you post this?
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>>543848646
Belle should be the one with the cock thoughbeit.
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>>543848646
does belle have a dick too or no
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>>543848763
Is her ass too big?
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>>543848573
Fusion collider could work but it's actually lower performance on her and since Weeping Gemini is essentially free it's recommended to just use it instead of anything else if you don't have her sig. Vivian hardly ever uses EX specials within 8 seconds of each other so you won't ever build full stacks of its buff. Weeping Gemini gives you more AP per stack (and more stacks) and its stacks are easier to activate for Vivian since you'll be using her on a double anomaly team, and it activates whenever ANY squad member inflicts ANY anomaly.
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Noooooooooo..... I wanted the Toy Castle.. why did you give me a throwaway CD????

I get like 1 rare S-rank Hollow Resonium for every 50 attempts at grinding the withering garden. But I always get the wrong ones ;_;
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I still don't have her engine. Help.
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>>543848646
Is this why Belle always has her door closed?

Did you know theres a rare night event where you can enter yoir siblings room after they suggestyou both stay up together? They have unique photos on their boards too.
Since I chose Wise tho I dunno what his "canon" room looks like
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>>543846485
>says all this
>doesn't post one of his masterpieces on the imageboard
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>>543848942
It's actually insane. I didn't even notice it at first because they hide it behind her cape thing. She might have the largest ass in the game proportional to her size.
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>>543849009
Isn't it in the starter pack? Just buy it.
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yi xuan have cameras in the sky 24/7
It's impossible she doesn't know anything
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>>543849009
I have over 1200 pulls across all banners and I still only have her at M3. Every other A-rank is at M6.
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>>543849083
Because theyre MINE
None shall know the true depths of my goonery but I
Also I'm on retard settups, file transferring is...not hard but very retarded and annoying
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>>543849095
Yixuan’s is kinda crazy when she’s at full sprint, and Trigger noticeably claps if you up the resolution
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>>543849201
Is it? I don't remember seeing it, but I'm very likely retarded.
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keked again...
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>>543849386
Who would win in a fight between the guy in the bnuy server and the guy in the miyabi server?
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That one cop with the ether gun I cant remember the bane of
Did they design her to resemble a horsegirl or is it just me? The hair and the ass handlebars like you could ride her...it makes me hate her design lol desu
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>>543849315
Yes but they're also much taller, which is why I said proportional to her size.
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>>543849512
ehh irl i’ve always found shorter girls to have bigger butts but that’s anecdotal.
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>>543849386
Wait, we have an in-game groupchat?
Link naow
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>>543849589
They don't actually, they just seem larger because they have somewhat similar amounts of fat in a smaller frame.
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>>543849204
I must be lucky then. I've gotten every A agent to M5 at least from the first times I was rolling them as part of limited channels. Started as Yuzuha was leaving.
When will Pulchra be a boosted roll in a banner, she's still M1 for me. Bnuy banner?
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Boioioioioing
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>>543849928
She just was for Yixuan so it probably won't happen again for a while.
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>>543844832
Zhao leaks?
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>>543850041
Occasionally. I lick her clean though.
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>>543849990
Im genuinely so fucking happy I failed the 50/50 with her so I could immediately get Seed and her sig the next day or so when the update rolled over
Best unluck of my life
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>>543844832
love seed <3
https://files.catbox.moe/a54cx3.mp3
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>>543849928
>When will Pulchra be a boosted roll in a banner
in about 2 weeks
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>>543850108
Not what I meant but based
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>>543850013
FUCKING DAMNIT I MISSED FUCKING JANE TOO BY LIKE THREE MONTHS, HER AND ELLEN ARE THE ONLY OLD BANNERS I WANT
REEEEEE>>543850258 oh nice
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>>543850013
>>543850258
I stand corrected. Isn't this the third rate up banner for her in like 6 months then?
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>>543850405
I only started playing the game because of her unironically so maybe the devs know that kind of mindset is widespread?
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Gonna pipe 'er.
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I built my Koleda like FuFu and theoretically should do very well with her new crit rate/dmg disc settup
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>>543844832
CAN WE FUCKING SKIP THIS PATCH? WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT FLOPCIA AND SHITDHARI!??!?!
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>>543850405
third in 8 months since her debut was in April.
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>>543847605
>tfw she's excited to have a Junior finally
>you learn she's had dozens of juniors already but forgets them each time
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>>543850943
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NIGGER FAGGOT THIS IS THE BEST UPDATE, TIMESWORN HILLS WERE AMAZING AND ILL KNIFE RAPE YOUR FUCKING FAMILY LINE OUT OF EXISTENCE FOR DISRESPECTING MY NEW BEST FRIEND AND ALSO MY NEW MOMMY
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>>543850843
>I built my Koleda
bro wtf are you doing she's ugly as sin and her jp dub sucks major ASS
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>>543848419
>>543848573
Weeping Gemini is more than good enough cope, it's just very good in general. I'd say nobody other than Vivian-enthusiasts who love her should roll her sig by matter of how good Weeping Gemini is on her.
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Woah is that .... Ninehveh? Now there's something I havent seen in a while, I thought that whole early portion of the game was memory holed and swept under the rug.
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>>543850943
I like Lucia.
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>>543851105
IT'S FUCKING SHIT
THE PATCH IS SHIT THE STORY IS SHIT THE EVENTS ARE SHIT THE REWARDS ARE SHIT THE DISC RNG IS SHIT MY SAVINGS ARE SHIT YE IS SHIT MIYABI IS AWESOME YIXUAN IS AWESOME BILLY IS KINO BANYUE IS COOL
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>>543851075
I would be unironically heartbroken
But that would definitely make sense given how the last disciple to join up at the temple ended up with the sword as opposed to Shifu. If she one day calls us Senior after seeing our outfit I'll cry
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>>543851250
I also like Lucia.
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>>543851250
LYING SON OF A BITCH HER JP VA IS FUCKING SHIT
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>>543851265
Fine then faggot, I'm eating your luck for the next FOUR fucking banners. I'm not even going to use it for myself I'm going to shit it out into my garden patch
Remember this when you fail your 50/50s and think of ME when you do
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>>543850828
For me it's twintails.
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>>543851528
I've already got KOTTED this patch.
You can't hurt me anymore cause I'm already dead.............
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>>543850943
No I need more time to save for Zhao.
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>>543851628
This was me >>543842075
I dont wanna fuckin hear it
Muddle through or DIE
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>>543850828
Piper number 5 is cute.
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Day 1 player, still dont have kot
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>>543851405
I like her Korean VA, it's got that kind of scratchy texture to it that really enhances her cute factor
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>>543852013
I picked her from the standard pity a few days before the patch only for this >>543851628 to happen while pulling for Vivian...
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tfw started playing in english and didnt think to change it until I was too used to the voices for wise and belle

:'^)
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>>543852186
I'm a big fan of Wise's JP VA. I like how easy on the ears his voice is.
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>>543852013
I had all the standards that matter so I picked her from the selector.
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>>543851993
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>>543852013
Do they ever rerun events or have I lost out on special decorations and photos?
Unique wengines too I guess but Id rather have my knick-knacks
Speaking of I hope they fucking increase the photoboard limit since they give you three times as much space on it than you can actually use. They already doubled the shelf space in a recent patch so why not?
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Who do I blame for the removal of TV mode and the drop in both quality and quantity of cutscenes?
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Breed this creature
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>>543852703
>Do they ever rerun events
No, but you can play through the old events that matter in the archives. Remains to be seen whether they'll let you buy old event rewards later on like they do in HSR but don't count on it.
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>*miyabi sees zhao*
>"master, long time no see"
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>>543852754
Players AND devs
It was a pain to grind as a recent player but honestly most of them WERE fun, like the car one and the bangboo trainer arc
They should bring back discontinued content as small scale events just to tie back into the old content down the line
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>>543852754
rule of thumb: if someone disagrees with you, they're a TV mode hater
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>>543852013
I don't either, at one point in time I was interested in building her but I know the window for it being fun and interesting has came and went.
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>>543852754
Content creators and people who don't play the game anymore
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>>543852870
>Hi Zhao, I told you calling me master is unnecessary. Did you ever find that melon flavored ramune I mentioned?
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>OMG MANATO, are you okay??? *pushes wise to the ground*
>Here Manato, let me get you your sword!
Why do the writers hate Wise?
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>>543852680
Nice
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>>543852824
Im genuinely upset that we can still do Dew Garden but I cant get the actual decoration reward with Wise and Belle in that photo, its soooo cute and heartwarming
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>>543853018
Yuzuha's EN VA says this was her favorite moment with her...
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>>543853018
They don't.
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>>543852754
>still crying about TV mode when 2.1 and 2.3 have had the most elaborate cutscenes and events so far
Why do shitposters keep using such an outdated complaint? It hasn't been relevant for like a year now.
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>>543852918
>It was a pain to grind as a recent player
How likely was it that a lot of players burned themselves out on the amount of content in the release patch, blamed it on the game rather than their inability to take a break, and the devs caved to them instead of calling them retards?
ZZZ had a shitton of content in the release patch after all.
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the only reason I'm not like this is because I got lucky getting Lucia, her ball and Vivian but the content this patch is mega shit. story is okayish in some moments but completely filler, and the octopus dream event has got to be my least favorite event so far, I haven't even bothered finishing it yet, and besides that is just boredom and rehashes.
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Someone told me Dead-end Butcher got stronger.

But Astra-Vivia-Miyabi still cuts through him like butter.
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>>543853071
Tiny hag in action is COOL.
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I want Yidhari to suffocate me to death with her octopus tails and soft arms as I fall asleep while she strokes my hair
I refuse to take my schizophrenia medication anymore
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>>543853236
>have had the most elaborate cutscenes
Just the Victoria Housekeeping arc in the 1.0 patch has twelve minutes worth of high quality cutscenes.
None of the 2.0 patches compare to that, not even 2.1
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>>543853247
Very. Greed drives the poly grabbing and if youre not autistic or horny enough you bounce right off
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>lighter
>Muh dead comrades
>Has to go underground to earn money so the family of his comrades can survive
>cool as fuck gang leader
>1 vs 100 kinocinema cutscene

>Seed
>I'm from helios academy for some reason
>I have super powers
>Muh dead robot father
>has cringe walking unskippable cutscene that lasts for 30 minutes

>Trigger
>Muh dead comrades
>They should be alive inside the hollow for who knows how many years
>They must have survive eating ether rocks or some shit
>Another cry baby
>The woman villain is more hot than the npc turned limited character

>Orphie
>The story revolves about her fucking tail
>Nothing to write home about orphie at all
>It should be Magus and Orphie as a character, yes A fucking talking tail with a mouth attached to a literal who
>The villain is more hotter than than the featured character, too bad they killed her

Yep our story has been shit post 1.3
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>>543853370
>>543853236
the thing about the cutscenes if we’re talking about the videos and not In-Engine cutscenes, they piss me off because they’re so compressed to shit and look awful and blocky.
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>>543853524
>The story revolves about her fucking tail
You don't play the game if you've missed the point of her character this fucking much.
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>>543853524
How dare you shittalk our aspie step sister from helios
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What kind of numbers am I looking for on Monato?
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>>543853652
I assumed it was an AI generated comment since he wrote that Lighter is a gang leader so I skipped the rest. Glad to know I was right
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what to spend z-merits and investigation merits on?
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>>543853652
What, eating lemon chips? Fucking orphiekeks are insufferable, majority of the story revolves on Isolde and magus, you don't know shit
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>>543853831
Dennies and literally nothing else unless you need it for immediate use
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>>543853302
Tightening up the gameplay a bit easily net m +9000 points.

You guy, don't miss out on Vivian, if you have Astra she elevates Vivian to... well, there is notihng comparable in the cast currently.
It's just an insanely strong team.
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>>543853831
tuning calibrator and hamster pass every month, spend leftover on dennies and upgrade mats
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>>543853893
>nothing comparable in the cast currently
*outperforms you with an a rank support and an m0r0 yuzuha*
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>>543853817
AI dalits truly are pathetic.
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>>543852820
Is her ass fat? She has to compete with Miyabi
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>>543853831
Bangboo pulls, you are BRICKING YOURSELF if you don't get the 5 monthly boopons since there's zero way to farm or buy them with real money
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>>543853984
Tuning calibrators are dogshit and not worth it rng-wise
Sure you can single out Atk on slot 5 but have fun seeing it come up HP%, Def, Hp, Def% every single fucking time. The hamster cage cost also seems insane in zmerits when we get them every other event or so and elsewhere
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The tigers are on it!
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>>543854118
If you have a lot of characters it's not possible to level all their skills to max in a reasonable amount of time without them. Also, dennies are even easier to come by so you might as well get a good stock of tuning calibrators built up. I use them like 5 or 6 at a time, until I get good substats on the most important disc for a character. It saves a lot of time.
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>>543853184
>Yuzuha's EN VA says this was her favorite moment with her...
She sounds based, gonna follower her
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>>543854012
>yuzuha
Her special Anomaly multipliers doesn't amplify Ablooms.
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>>543854079
You just reminded me I got a Snap dupe after literally 2 pulls on a fresh 10A/90S roll set ans now im warm and fuzzy inside again :^)
He shall be plus5 for sake of my main dps team
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>>543853790
9 inches long
4 inches diameter
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>>543854118
You use tuners for random niche shit that you don't need ideal disks for, being able to print a garbage HP% D6 for Lucia is better than spending 300 stamina hoping one drops.
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>>543854230
She isn't, but go ahead and find that out for yourself.
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>>543854294
I guess my InterKnot title really does hold true then
Not Unlucky

'night thread, shit you up another day
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>>543854258
clearly talking about soukaku and yuzuha
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Why does Lucia act absolutely nothing in the story as she did in her trailer? In the trailer she was way more hyper and goofy and autistic, then in the story she was super tame and also sad because they wanted to force another "dead parents" backstory. Don't get me started on Yidhari.....
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>>543854230
>gonna follower her
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>>543854429
Either pay attention or do more drugs like me
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>>543853247
Yeah, from what I noticed the people that didn't vibe with TV mode or the game quit by the end of chapter 1 (train quest) or the beginning of chapter 2 just after meeting Zhu. That's fair but the player that is very strange to me is the one that no life'd the game on release, burned themselves out of it and grew a weird resentment towards it. When I hear people talk negatively about the game on social media or YouTube or any platform the majority is not even people that disliked Failume Heights and Yixuan is the fuckers that quit after 1.0
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>>543854375
>She isn't, but go ahead and find that out for yourself.
You sound mad, on an unrelated note what are your thoughts on this canon straight ship?
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>>543854258
Miyabi is basically an attack agent with some anomaly as a bonus, you're far better off building her for crit and attack than for AP and AM.
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>>543854557
The special events annoyed the fuck out of me too as a new player, because it ripped me away from my self insert and locked me into the story line. Jane's was tolerable because her fat ass was included, but I genuinely wanted to fucking kill Astra I hated her so much
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Your maid.

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Dick hurts
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>>543854704
Where's the butler?
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>>543854557
ZZZ attracted a bunch of new people who weren't used to the gacha game format and got filtered by the 20 hour tutorial. I already played HSR so I knew what I was getting into but any people jumping in expecting DMC I could see bouncing right off it before even getting to the endgame content.
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>>543854704
How much milk per day?
https://litter.catbox.moe/0a162h7r57suvr72.jpg
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>>543854596
>you're far better off building her for crit and attack
That's what that Miyabi is.
She still works smoothly with Astra-Vivian.
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>>543854569
I like it. People aren't as one dimensional as you think.
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>>543854230
spooky
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>>543854596
https://youtu.be/mEcue8KqE5M?si=l5F0TxR6lSQwXS02
https://youtu.be/SmxFV4NzxE8?si=rH-85Fc_R5Js-Jzn
Depends on the DA buff, notably recent DA buffs have made AP D4 better on her.
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>>543854880
I literally yelled at my tv "OKAY WHEN DO I GET TO GIVE YOU MONEY ALREADY" that tutorial dragged me on so long lol
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I have low standards with no specific or discerning tastes whatsoever, which agent is for me ?
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I'm so glad I picked Belle, holy crap. Wise players got bricked accounts
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>>543855206
Astra Yao
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>>543855261
Youre a faggot who takes dicks
Im a chad who bangs his hot sister

We are not the same
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Jane's Doe ripe pussy
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>>543855261
>talk to npc
>sexy belle jumpscare
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>>543855206
Yidhari
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>>543855261
I'm quite content.
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>>543855206
Soldier 11
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>>543855176
That "AP D4" has perfect substats. Sure, if you can get crit rate +3 crit dmg +2 on an AP D4 use it. But for anyone who spends a reasonable amount of time disc farming, crit rate or crit dmg will net better results.
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>>543855261
>Wise players got bricked accounts
How so?
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>>543855345
You effeminately bounce off of buff men's chests and get pushed around by girls.
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>>543855641
Would you prefer he was pushed around by guys, then?
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>>543852404
>same VA as Kamijou Touma
Funny thing is that Wise's VAs are always action oriented and yet they play a calm guy like Wise.
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>>543855531
>go do disc/hia run
>see a gaylord
my condolences
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>>543855759
No, but clearly you would. Luckily I play as Belle and have a 0% chance of encountering male-on-male homosexuality.
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>>543855847
You're very insecure
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>>543852404
I didn't like how wimpy Wise's KR VA sounded at first but now that I'm used to it and after all that's happened in the story the other voices just sound way too manly for a character like him.
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Your date for the night!

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>>543855891
>forced to play as Wise
>forced to go on a date with Wise
?
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>>543855847
their last names werent confirmed yet, anon.
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Lighter rerun when
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>>543856115
hopefully after the idols skip patch.
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>>543855830
Sometimes you want a more chill role that's less taxing.

>>543855972
>just sound way too manly for a character like him
I don't think so at all. He's an adult guy, there's a reasonable expectation for him to have some base in his voice. He's also a rather introverted and easygoing person, so his vocal approach in EN and JP seem very fitting to me.

I don't have any experience with the other two, so I'll refrain from commenting.
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>>543854670
>The special events annoyed the fuck out of me too as a new player, because it ripped me away from my self insert and locked me into the story line. Jane's was tolerable because her fat ass was included, but I genuinely wanted to fucking kill Astra I hated her so much

>Wise
>Self-insert
LOL
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PLEASE BE Lycaon engine
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>>543856348
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>>543855907
hes just ugly
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>>543856348
nyo its bad
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>>543856241
Wise's VA direction seems to be always reserve, but it always hit best when his tone of voice rises, mostly when it comes to Belle or simping to Astra or when in danger. As assistant, he's overprotective of Belle more, which is understandable since she's heading to danger but less protective when you play as him since Belle's not in danger.
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Why are all the girls for (You) in this game? Very strange for a mihoyo game
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She's a whore for BWC
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>>543856612
Chairman Z is personally leading the charge to eradicate brownskin SEA cuckolds and trannies from videogames.
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>>543856241
>I don't have any experience with the other two
Here's an example of what I'm talking about, he sounds like a fucking nerd but that somehow makes the times he actually steps up more effective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJGfwLgb0BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLlvETFjLfs
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The music playing in the event's Dead End Butcher fight sounds like a Falcom track
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>>543856709
>Chairman Z is personally leading the charge to eradicate brownskin SEA cuckolds and trannies from videogames.
But it's only brown third world incels who care about ML pandering
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Just came back and blasted through all the content in this game again. Where the fuck are all the blue quests? I haven't touched the HDD since like 2.0 and it's still all cleared. Also, only one new hollow area? It was like 30 minutes of gameplay, tops.
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>>543856891
We don't do side quests anymore. There's a bunch of stuff to do in the new hollow zero but it's not as fun as the old one
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Why are ZZZ characters so much more animated and expressive compared to Genshin and Honkai Star rail characters? Genshin and HSR characters look like lifeless dolls by comparison. Aren't all three games using the same engine too?
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>>543855519
Both players already had godlike regular D4s, this disk isn't even notably that much better than the best-in-class disks they ran before lol. If you stopped being a Dunning Kruger retard for one second you'd also make note of the AM% D6 when the leading standard prior was ATK% with Lycaon. Yuzuha already improved AP/AM on Miyabi with her release, it's just recent DA buffs have finally tipped the scales by buffing Disorder DMG% (ie Abberation) and Anomaly DMG% like what we have now with Dream Delusion.
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>>543856573
Pen Ratio is as valuable for Anomalies as a true mainstat right now.
Lycaon's engine is garbage, only Trigger uses it well.
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>>543856703
>W
Wise is so lucky.
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>>543856597
>Wise's VA direction seems to be always reserve, but it always hit best when his tone of voice rises
Yeah, it's a break in his normal demeanor that's rather stark when he does get heated.

>>543856763
From your description, I was expecting something much higher but no this is rather in-line with his EN and JP VAs. Though he doesn't scream out for Vivian in this scene like the other two do.
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>>543856891
They replaced side quests with more fleshed-out events. Can't say I hate the change, though it certainly works better if you play the game regularly as opposed to once every few weeks.
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>>543855176
>yuzu
Well at least since I only play Lycaon mono ice extremely badly at least it means I won't have to farm Mibibi again...
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>>543856891
They decided to put most of the content into the events because of casuals that don't play side content. I like it, the beach and Yidhari events were a real step up from slop like Camellia Golden Week.
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>>543857052
I don't doubt that they did, but even with anomaly damage enhancements an average player's build will suffer if they chase anomaly damage on Miyabi instead of getting her to appropriate crit levels. Maybe you should read what I actually said.
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>>543856573
this game has made it a goal to never give me m1 lycaon. i'm gonna have to build him gradually through each anniversary at this point.
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>>543855830
His EN VA also has actual range. His voice work for Anaxa's pretty fucking good. So it's safe to assume it's just the voice direction of the character
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>>543849095
For the medium model, yes it is the biggest. In fact, it beats out the second biggest by over an inch, nearly two inches, in units.
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>>543856875
Horsecuck... you're really just proving every stereotype correct about yourself and your disabilities (especially your autism) when you go on tirades about random people who made fun of you on twitter/discord.
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>>543857045
They all use Unity. For ZZZ, the game had more development time and thus was more polished upon release. They've mostly tried to uphold that standard ever since.
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>>543857891
>Caring about ML pandering and self-inserting
>IN FUCKING ZZZ
Never stops being funny.
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>>543854704
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>>543857993
What's wrong with that?
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Schizophrenic Flip pdotranny unironically be like: I WILL DEFEAT WISE, ALL YOU WILL RUE THE DAY YOU LAUGHED AT ME
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>>543858373
Imagine believing it's not the SEAmonkeys who are self inserting as Wise.
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i dislike wise and i'm not a schizo about it. i also don't really like belle that much.
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>>543858492
it really isnt... they fell for the gudako memes
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Fire and Ice
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>>543858373
Wise is not a self-insert, he's an established character with his own personality. You are essentially fantasizing about another male fucking tons of girls, or fantasizing about being another man who fucks tons of girls. You're the guy who watches straight porn and "self-inserts" as the man to cope with being a cuckold.
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>>543857045
Ironically the more restricted camera for the "talking" cutscenes works in ZZZ's favor. Cycling between a few different poses/expressions is a lot more natural-looking when they're just facing the camera head-on instead of having to actually block out the scenes.
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>>543858495
I think she's cute
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>>543858791
i'm the camera man in the back
it was a fun afternoon
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>>543858695
That doesnt really make sense wouldn't watching porn and NOT fantasizing about it being you be more cuckish? Luke instead of enjoying the fantasy of you fucking the girl, which is what porn us for, you actively want it to be another guy fucking her as you watch
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>>543858791
Wise jumpscare
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>>543858734
Jesus christ Star Rail NPCs look so fucking bad, they're worse than Ps1 models, it's like they didn't even try, especially bad when you have a cutscene that focuses the camera on them for prolonged periods.
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>>543858995
You can simply not watch it, and instead engage in more aristocratic forms of masturbation.
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>>543858995
Watching porn at all is cuckolded
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It's no surprise Wise x Astra being canon is the worst trigger that one retard has ever known.
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>>543858975
nigga why you lyin?
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>>543859106
to be fair that game is meant for phone screens.
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>>543858695
That's a big imaginary burger she's eating
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>>543859294
Astra sleeps with rich old men
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>>543859294
Is that still melty worthy
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>>543859294
>Wise x Astra
No one cares about this though.
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>>543846614
>>543844832
why is Seed so fucking HOT?
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>>543859294
Factos
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>>543857045
It's crazy how every single character in ZZZ has unique animation breaks, meanwhile in HSR every single female character, for example, has the exact same run-animation break (regardless of model type).
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>>543859794
This is my fetish, too bad not many doujins with this kind of tag.
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Just came to Flora's feet then a few minutes later came to her ass
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>>543846614
>My soldier wives are so cool!
>I love Obol!
Aren't you forgetting someone?
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>>543857352
Essentially. Yuzuha just makes more of her damage profile AP/Disorder damage than it was on release while also devaluing ATK% disks in mono-ice (double ATK buffers, you're getting a flat +2.2k ATK vs only 1k with Lycaon). Yuzuha mono-ice runs AM% now by default because said whopping 2.2k ATK, but the AP D4 is only because of temporary DA buffs providing Anomaly DMG%/Disorder DMG%. You'd only bother to rebuild if you're the kind of sweaty autist who wants to have alternate disks lying around for when they run these.

>>543857416
You're the one who made this into some "most people" bullshit and immediately tried to cope by citing the disk being too good to count. All I said was that it depends on the DA buff, which is true. Because it does now with Yuzuha, and I provided multiple examples of players swapping over to AP builds in said recent DA cycles to prove it.

Crit% D4 is still better in a vacuum but AP is very very close behind now. I only commented because it's just a little outdated thinking to treat Miyabi like she's purely an Attacker-larper nowdays.
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I was going to make a guide about which agents benefits more from daze and which agents benefit more from Impact, but then I realise our stun engines are not really eual.
We don't have an engine that gives +30% impact, nor do we have a rival that gives precisely +30% daze, so it's kind of irrelevant to get into who benefits slightly more from A vs B.
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>>543859794
It's crazy how they added a nugget to the game and just breezed past it, when are we going to get a proper edgekino character?
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>>543859891
>every single character in ZZZ has unique animation breaks
Nekomata's is actually the best one, and Jane has one where she land on her butt to brake.
Too bad Nekomata's isn't there.
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My balls itch
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>>543860062
>Sure, if you can get crit rate +3 crit dmg +2 on an AP D4 use it.
Is what I said. You seem to want to have an argument for some reason. My point is just that while you can make a more anomaly focused build work, it's only better when these specific buffs exist and the average player is better off focusing on getting a set of discs with good crit stats instead. We don't even really disagree on anything substantial.
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>>543859538
hot seed
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I hope Fufu reacts if you smack her as Banyue similar to what Lucy's boars do when you hit them.
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>>543846614
all the girls in Obol are pure SEX
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>>543857045
>someone reused my hastily put together mosaic
my day is made

>>543859891
HSR really has no excuse, it's even more narrow and compartimentalized than ZZZ. ZZZ having better animations than genshin & wuwa is understandable because it's not an open world and they can focus on the animations more but HSR is the most low effort game ever released
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>no WATTA DING ATTA
WHAT THE FUCK WHY THEY REMOVE IT
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>>543860425
How did Seed flop when she has those delicious feet and that fat fucking ass FUCK
best part is you know she'd be fine with us sucking on her toes
FUCK I LOVE FLORA!
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>>543846614
KINO
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>>543860753
It's just one of a couple responses you can get.
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did her swimsuit succeed in making her your number one...?
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>>543860769
footfags are an obnoxiously loud minority
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>>543860769
People were sold on the big robot man, then it was revealed to actually be a girl on a scooter you play as 90% of the time. This is the only reason I didn't pull
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>>543860769
I love Seed but I don't give a shit about her feet at all
her outfit and face (unironically) are what sold her to me
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>He skipped Seed
You are BRICKED
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>>543860819
She still remains not pulled for, so I have a random swimsuit in my inventory. But to be fair, I don't really play anomaly.
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>>543860769
because people don't want to be associated with you or your fetish

>>543860951
>liking Seed's outfit
now that's rare, people usually like her despite it
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>>543860992

FUCKING ADD DLSS YOU NIGGER CHINKS
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>>543860819
I tried to get her for META reasons and got Lycaon instead.
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>you thought it was robot mech
>you get robot mech AND surprise sexy as fuck cute girl included also
this is somehow bad because ew feet and ew girl
it's the hoyoverse curse
why are zenless players so fucking GAY
i thought zzz was the gooner game
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Why the fuck the login screens take an eternity to load in
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>>543861041
>now that's rare, people usually like her despite it

I find the transparent and skin tight parts really hot. The naked shoulders are great too.
Sure I'd have preferred a full on plugsuit but then I could find easy improvement for almost every design in the game.
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>>543861041
NTA, but her outfit is perfect for what it is
She's a mech pilot, she usually almost nevers goes out of the cockpit, she only does it in game so you can look at the cute girl and her FAT FUCKING ASS >>543844832
(gay people don't get it)
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>>543861131
No I get a shitty fetish and a character I don't like that replaces what I wanted.
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Damn they gave us fuck tons of polys there is no way we can't reach 180 pulls.
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This event saved ZZZ
How there isn't a permanent photo mode yet is still impossible to understand
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>>543860706
>HSR really has no excuse, it's even more narrow and compartimentalized than ZZZ. ZZZ having better animations than genshin & wuwa is understandable because it's not an open world and they can focus on the animations more but HSR is the most low effort game ever released
I was told that Dawei views Honkai as his most beloved franchise, yet he treats his #1 Honkai game like total dogshit, giving it by far the least budget despite it making by far the most money of any of their games.

And speaking of which, what the fuck do people even DO in HSR outside of the story? The game has zero content besides the monthly endgame resets, which are HP inflated to such an extent now it's basically whale content exclusively. There are virtually no events, and the events that they do add are dogshit. How the fuck is that game so much more popular than ZZZ, or even Genshin? I don't fucking get it, is it because it's easier to run on phone because of it's dogshit graphics, lack of open world, and turn-based gameplay?
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>>543861131
He's an infamous crybaby from the Philippines who does this shit any time he think a male is being "mistreated"
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>>543861413
The servers will be full of ass shots
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>>543861354
I read it was 140 with membership and battlepass, I think it's the most generous they've been since 2.0
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>>543861424
It's precisely because people eat that shit up they don't spend any money on it. Ironically, if ZZZ made more money it'd probably be lower quality. They're still at the point where they have to actually try to attract people to come to and continue playing the game. To answer your question it is 100% the phones. Lots of chinamen and SEAmonkeys don't have computers, even if they're relatively well off.
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>>543861413
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>>543861613
This. I've been playing hoyoshit games for long enough to notice that the lower revenue they generated, the better they were.
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>>543861456
I'm not even the same person as this guy >>543861239. Schizo theories about the secret identities of various posters shitting up every board and thread has ruined this site.
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what's the point of the story forcing you to use underleveled and underkitted characters, and FORCING you to not use your own versions even if you had them?
it'd be one thing if they forced you to them at high investment to shill them but this just makes no sense to me
I also hate that Lucia's quest forces me to use Shitdari, just let me use an actual third character along with Shifu, fuck I'd even take Manato over her
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>>543861831
The content is balanced around those characters, and you have to keep in mind the average player is an 80 IQ (generous) SEAmonkey with a 5 second attention span. The story content has to be simple and easy enough for someone even dumber than that.
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why did you skip her
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>>543861238
I absolutely love Seed's feet, but dat ass... goddamn I love her fat fucking ass.
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>>543862072
Don't like her
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>>543862072
I didn't!
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>>543844832
i will expand her hollow
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>In-game days suddenly advancing entirely on their own
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>>543862280
i hate it
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>>543862072
I have her at M1W1 suck my dick retard
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>>543862072
hype for you
roll for you
get you maxed and fully disc on day 1
love bibian
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>>543862498
Wouldn't her M2 be better than her engine? Unless you just wanted the glow effects, which is respectable.
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>>543862072
I pulled her instead of Temu Ganyu
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>>543862731
A bowling event would be fun. No idea how popular it is in China though.
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sex with Venus
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>>543862072
I didn't though?
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>>543862712
It's more like I just happened to get it. I won the 50/50 on her, then got M1 within ~10 pulls, and I was just really feeling it so I did some pulls on the engine banner to see if I could get that early as well, and also got it within ~10 pulls proving myself as Vivian's chosen anon, after that I went back to pulling on the character banner but I either didn't get another early 5* before her banner ended, or I got a Grace, can't remember which
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New generation stunner guide.
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Okay how the FUCK does Lucia know about Geppeto? That shit's supposed to be top secret. Even the soldiers in charge of that area had mostly incomplete or deliberately false information about it.
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>>543863329
Interknot rumors is the most likely guess.
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To those who’ve played the new patch, what do you think about the potential non-proxy m/f ship

With the story now centering on Yidhari, Lucia, and Monato, I can’t help but notice some hints between Monato and Lucia. What’s your take on it?
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>got 4 A's in the pull
>3 Pipers and 1 of her weapon
FML I want to max up Manato to have a second shear team.
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>>543863446
Me x this nigga spamming this copypasta every day
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>>543863879
Describe how it would go.
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>>543863446
the what
> I can’t help but notice some hints between Monato and Lucia
that's a bizarre pick to shitpost from any angle, do anons here even care about Lucia?
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>>543863271
But usually the impact boost is higher than the daze boost, so it seems to mostly cancel out. Varies by engine of course, but the better the starting impact, the less ideal a total daze boost of a lower % than the impact boost..
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>>543863879
is this a bot or something
always on time too kek
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>>543863990
He's been posting that and various other ship stuff from Reddit. Weird thing to make your thread identity, but c'est la vie.
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>>543860406
>miyabi is basically a attacker
>some DA buffs make AP better on her
>yeah well that's only because they have a god disk lol
>no its not, it's because of all these other reasons
>... I just meant for most people, most people wont make a disk just for DA buffs
I was just adding nuance because it is true AP D4 is close enough now to be better with any Disorder%/Anomaly% modifiers present. Keep in mind AP/AM have went from "not even a consideration" on her release to "now only 4~5% behind" with Yuzuha before any stage buffs. She also does just run AM% D6 by default in mono-ice with Yuzuha now, this is her second most common team on Prydwen.

It's not like I disagreed with you initially, the argument is only because you denied me saying it's just because of their disk being godlike before eventually backing it up to "well, its only better for these DAs" like my original post said to begin with. If you had started with "true but non-AP D4 is better normally and what most people use" I'd have had nothing to disagree with and went on my way, I again did specify it was only because of recent DA buffs afterall.
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Hello hoyofriends, how's the new player experience for ZZZ in the year of our lord 2025? Is it worth starting right now considering it's more than a year old at this point?
How's the endgame play like compared to HSR/GI?
Also /lcg/ gives you a big kiss
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>>543863656
cheesetopia mogs
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>>543864039
>But usually the impact boost is higher than the daze boos
If we are talking about the A-rank options,
Fossil Core will give you +32% daze over the majority of the DA fight.

Wheras Steam oven is only +25% impact (plus it lacks impact mainstat)
And Hellfire gear is only +20% impact.
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>>543864353
Should be smooth sailing I think. We are about to get a new Void hunter in 2 months time, you're in good time to grab her.
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>>543864353
It's alright I guess. Most of the new characters added are pretty good, and most limited characters in general are pretty good, but the powercreep isn't too high so far. Lots of permanent content too, heck most of the game's best content is from the early patches.
The only thing that's really not very friendly to newcomers is that one of the endgame modes requires you to have 3 teams and getting 3 decent teams might take a while, but you only need to get 6/9 stars on it to get all the rewards, and even then, the rewards for it are pretty low (just under enough currency for 2 rolls every 2 weeks).
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Astralyn
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Out of hp, atk, and fire dmg which is more generally useful on manato ? I currently have a fire dmg disc on slot 5 but the substats are pretty fucking terrible, however I just got a hp disc with incredible substats. If atk is better I'll just keep grinding.
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>>543864785
dogwater ship they didn't even really commit to, why is Hoyo so incapable of making good yuri in their post-honkers impact games...
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>Building Homoto
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>>543864353
Yeah but just buy a $5 starter account with your favorite char on it. thats what i did back in April and its worked out great
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>>543864824
I think the HP piece will be more beneficial if the substats are better.
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>>543864904
Cry about it.
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You have aids.
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>>543864972
Hmm. Okay. Based on his skill description it seemed like HP would be useful, but I see more people are using fire dmg, so even with bad substats I wondered if fire dmg was worth it.
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>>543864902
they are just good friends with a sister-like relationship
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>>543864824
i haven't crunched numbers for manato but yixuan actually prefers ether%. which is funny because HP and ether were equal in the beta for a while, until they changed how sheer force was calculated as a whole to make the numbers higher for everyone, which made HP less important and ether became better
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Is it worth grabbing jufufu on rerun for yi xuan lucia?
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>>543864532
Hellfire gears should be good for dialyn though since she uses a lot of EX specials and should have almost perfect uptime on the buff.
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What's wrong with the average fufu player? My build isn't even that great, no mindscapes or sig, most discs just passable, no skills even fully upgraded, attack not even maxed out for her buff, but apparently that's enough to get her in the top 42%? And this is of people who used the website to check stats, so it's skewed towards the top end of the playerbase. No wonder a lot of people were saying she was bad, they didn't even really build her.
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>>543865409
I don't know Anon, losing an x1,32 multiplier on that juicy 80 impact seems like a huge loss.

But I guess you do gain a lot of Energy from that engine. It's hard to say which is better.
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I think Manato looks cool. And that the gist of his kit would make for a fun S rank in the future.
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>>543864532
Fossilized core doesn't give you +32% daze over the majority of the DA fight if you're scoring higher than 30k. Past 30k you won't even get its buff anymore.
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>>543866045
>30k
I suspect this most likely is the limit for the majority of players.
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>>543864353
>new player experience
I haven't played as a new account in so long I'm not sure if I can tell you. The game spends a long time tutorializing things and if you're the type who wants to blast through ignoring the story and get straight to the regular daily gacha cycle you might be a little annoyed by the first X hours of gameplay.
>is it worth starting right now
As worth as starting any time really? Typical popular gacha fare, either raw dog it on your first account or if you trust you like the game/have cash to burn, grab one of the infinite $5 chinese reroll accounts if you have a waifu you absolutely must have/don't want to wait indeterminately long for/are willing to spend $5 to save having to an entire patch's worth of rolls to get.
>how's the endgame compared to HSR/GI
Haven't played GI but compared to HSR, ZZZ being an action game means you have a lot more room for skill expression. If you're a gamer, you have the freedom to kinda roll and do whatever within reason but if you're braindead (either building agents or playing them) you might feel the heat as far as powercreep/needing to stick to meta goes.

>>543863271
Dialyn's stat prios are kind of weird right now because after fooling around in the private server, if they don't absolutely shitcan her daze output+adjust her resource generation, the actual best stat on her will be stuff that gives her ER%. Her sig gives 1.5/s energy regen. For scale, no other similar passive seems to go above 0.6s. She's currently stunning faster than she and her team can generate resources, leading to either missed Martial Salutes or subpar burst windows. Hellfire Gears/Steam Oven are both looking non-negotiable currently for F2P WEngine choices, if not also ER% D6 ontop of them.
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>>543866304
>For scale, no other similar passive seems to go above 0.6s
I have a 5 star Weeping Cradle that has 1,2.
But this makes me understand how crazy Dialyn's engine is.
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>>543866225
Sure, let's say it is. 35k really because of performance points but we'll ignore that for now and just consider the damage score. You get the 32% buff for approximately half the fight, with only a 16% buff in the latter half. An average of 24%, which isn't bad. But that's only on the impact you actually do, which is for most non-aftershock stunners just from their EX specials and ults (and even ju fufu does a fair bit of her daze from EX specials and ult, really only pulchra does an overwhelming majority from aftershock attacks). Is a 24% effective daze output boost good on them? Yes, but that's only on the daze they do, which is tied to how many EX specials and ults they perform, which is in turn tied to their energy regeneration. So you're missing out on good energy regen buffs from hellfire or steam oven in order to get a slightly better final modifier. But you're doing less base daze to begin with, so it's not necessarily an improvement. It really depends on the character and fossilized is still a decent engine on almost any stunner, but it seems clear at this point ER will be more important for Dialyn.
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So wtf is the "Night Horror" anyway? I'm still confused after finishing Lucia's story.
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>>543865871
FAT WHORE!
I love her
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WTF is going on over at Hoyoverse? Why have they given us 4 dead dad stories in the last 4 months (Seed, Lucia, Yidhari, and now Nefer) ?
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>>543865871
UWAAAH
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>>543866304
The most obvious route I see them taking is just nerfing her daze output. They seem to want her to be played more on-field with how her resource works but you don't even really need to with how she works right now. If you needed to be out longer to actually apply daze it'd probably make her a lot more balanced.
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>>543865313
Diyalin will probably be better, but fufu is a close second for that team
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>>543866865
Because it's one of the easiest character backstories to write?
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>>543866865
There's this thing you may have heard of in ZZZ called the Hollow disaster.
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>>543867152
Events are generally better but I wish they still gave us a nice quest chain every once in a while. One a patch shouldn't be too hard, right?
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Is it possible to make furries in that genshin roblox mode ?
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>>543867514
Have you tried asking /gig/?
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>>543866484
Well, I meant at R1 - every R1 WEngine I've checked has capped out at the 0.6s range. But yeah, from my limited testing I think she'll run ER% regardless of your WEngine choice, sig just cranks your ER regen up into the realm of not needing to field her for long to afford her EX combo every cycle. F2P Dialyn will have to spend more time on-field farming energy for herself.

>>543866904
I thought about this, but her sig kind of conflicts with this design. Why give her an off-field only clause if they want her to spend more time on-field? They could have wrote it like Lucia's and just made it a permanent amount on-or-off.

My personal theory at the moment is that rather than tweak the lever on how much of her buff she can access with or without sig like Lighter, the actual difference between M0R1 and M0R0 Dialyn will be stored in how much field time she requires. M0R1 is more like Lighter himself, M0R0 is more like Qingyi. M0R0 has to farm energy for herself on-field and you might struggle to build resources for both her and your DPS if they need them, while M0R1 just bakes off-field until she's ready to dispense a full EX string.
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>>543866705
>An average of 24%
It should be a little bit more due to the nature of stun windows.
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Why does Manato call Belle "Rin-chan" despite her being more than half a decade older than him?
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>>543867558
Fair. They have so many threads up I dont know which is right one.
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>>543867651
Do we know Phaethon's canonical ages, or is it still a mid-20s assumption? Either way, it either means they're in the same peer group or Phaethon doesn't find a problem with it.
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>>543867612
Energy regen buff but needing to be on field to apply daze encourages a team with a more burst/on field hybrid DPS that she shares equal time with, which might be what they're going for with Ye Shunguang? Yixuan and Miyabi are both generally best on field for as long as you can keep them out there but they might buck the trend with her.
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>>543865598
42% is dogshit idk what you're on about
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>>543867264
We have literally never had an event with the quality of THE PROPHECY
...Or just of the better side quests in general. The issue with the old system is that they really just made too many boring and pointless ones, and even some with interesting stories were tied to some low quality, low effort TV minigame.
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>>543867951
It is by definition above average.
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>>543867892
Well we've known for a fact since like 1.3 that they're AT LEAST in their mid 20s, but aside from that yeah still up in the air, probably will be forever
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>Every character now has a hard shelf-life because they pump DA HP every patch, rendering NO character worth pulling, ever
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>>543868162
global averages don't matter for nearly any intents and purposes, they take into account to much chaff
it's like saying being gold rank in a fighting game or MOBA is "above average", yeah sure it is, but you're comparing yourself with little Timmy (age 8) and a million casual players at that point, not with people on the level of investment to come to chinese weaving forums to discuss the game, the site is a slightly more curated data sample but isn't meaningfully better, and the fact that it keeps track of agents no longer on your active display doesn't help
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>>543868471
wake me up when Miyabi, a character from 7 patches ago, drops from T0
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>>543868509
The site also only ranks characters that are fully built. You might be surprised at how many players don't even hit that with the characters they pull. I wasn't claiming my fufu build was that great, rather the opposite, I found it remarkable that it wasn't but was still ranked that highly.
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>>543868608
All new ice DPSs are doomed then.
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Komano Manato
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>>543869049
i say to myself as i log in
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>>543868189
Then it's likely just because they're both adults.

>>543869049
Goodest boy.
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Last call for any new player ideas, name updates, or music updates for the divegrass team. Poll will be up Friday evening (burger time). Previous discussions:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/543415471/#543433329
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/543509208/#543513996
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>>543869046
hate this "aura farmer" bitch
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>>543869302
mibomboclaat
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>>543866995
Ok. Ill wait for her. I think shes on the same time. Is she from a different faction? What bangboo would she use
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>>543868471
guess i'll wait for the next major patch when we go to a new location.
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>>543867152
why did hoyo send my wife to the big NPC farm up north...
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>>543868608
Yea shame she's on the standard banner for everyone to pul-
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>>543867901
From playing her, it really just feels like she doesn't "want" to be on-field doing anything other than EX/Ult unless you have to be. She feels very similar to Lighter and his Morale gauge, except instead you're watching your EX meter so that you can do all 3 into fucking back off again. It's kind of quickswappy in practice, but how often she wants to swap in feels directly tied to her EX bar. She generates some on-field but sitting around basic-attacking on field feels kind of wrong in the same way it does on Lighter. You also never want to do individual EXs if you can help it, the later stages have increasingly better daze values and the stacking buff on her sig/Hellfire Gears/Steam Oven really incentivize doing some manner of EX > EX > EX > Martial Salute every stun cycle if possible.

I haven't tested her without sig as much but even with sig, ER% D6 just felt surprisingly better. With ER%, some stun cycles you'd get 2 sets of triple-EX (well, sometimes partial on the second combo if the boss was already approaching stun) and for the ones where you don't you often just have ult instead. I didn't consider this until just now, but Miasma bosses might have her be fine without ER% via the giant energy donation on Miasma purification though.
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Okay the main story was fine this time but Lucia's quest is nearly Burnice levels of rushed.
Unlike Burnice's it actually hay like, a properly developed story with a beginning, middle and end, but just barely.
It's weird since it's usually the other way around, the Main Story being garbage and the Agent Story being pretty good
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>>543869485
>"Every character now has a hard shelf-life"
>"NO character worth pulling, ever"
>"A-A-A-ACTUALLY I ONLY MEANT STANDARD CHARACTERS AIEEEEEEEE"
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>>543869552
She needs ATK% on the last slot. Bitch needs to deal damage otherwise she's a giga brick outside of weird exceptions like with Alice m2, where all you care about is the extra ult anyways.

Also she needs BUFFS. Which she probably won't get.
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Dialyn is going to turn hollow zero into even more ult spam nonsense.
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>>543869731
>Too far up his own arrogant ass to see the bad design on the wall
You're just a Hoyo cocksucker at the end of the day
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>>543870432
>if you don't agree with the most retarded shitpost on the thread you're a cocksucker
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>>543867615
but that's a RAT not a mouse
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Yeah uhh... i have no idea how to play shifu or anomaly in general it seems
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>>543869339
I feel like a couple characters could be swapped for new ones? Lycaon as Knotted would be funny, with his legs and all would be a good football player, Banyue as Asura's wrath (Goalie). youtu.be/3uu2O-_4aMU?si=G5cwnhbn8EyGmNlF
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>>543870120
ATK% D6 is possible but I don't know if its that mandatory, she already has a pretty solid looking ATK stat given she'll run ATK% D5 (or at least my optimizer thinks she will). I think her personal damage will matter but not to that serious of a degree, people misinterpreted her playstyle a bit. She's less Qingyi, more Lighter. She might get a little more Qingyi-shaped at M0R0 but at M0R1 she feels very similar to Lighter in terms of playstyle and damage contribution.
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>>543869602
Probably written by the Trigger writer. Felt exactly the same. Same random ass shitty throwaway villain who's MAD for REASONS that nobody gives a flying shit about and hopefully you found it engaging tehe.

But yes. It sucked. I'm glad Fufu's wasn't THIS bad, because I do have the feeling that might've been this writer as well. But maybe that's generalizing a bit too much. Character quest has throwaway villain = this shitty writer may go too far.
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>>543850828
Which one is the Srank Spiper?
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>>543870751
Current listed of characters people suggested are Yixuan, Damian, Seed, Zhao, Banyue, and now Lycaon.
Spook Shack and Orphie are notable characters who didn't have anything suggested for them, but there's still time before the poll if anyone has ideas.
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>>543871169
When your optimizer thinks you run ATK disc 5, you either DROWN in dmg%, OR you are REALLY FUCKED in stat spread.
This is precisely what I mean, She doesn't get her own core passive buff. She has 0 damage on her ball other than the crit damage mainstat. All her stats other than crit damage SUCK DICK. Yet half her kit writes about I DEAL DAMAGE (i.e. her entire additional ability). Right now this makes absolutely 0 sense.

If you look at Fufu in comparison, her core passive fully affects her. She benefits of her own crit damage buff, so she can build crit rate (for set as well), get a good ratio, and buffs her own dmg% a bit for chain attacks and ult damage as well. And it's not like half her kit screams about I DEAL DAMAGE (though she actually will be).
Phone girl reminds me of Cipher in Star Rail. Half the kit says "YOU DEAL DAMAGE" but the vital part that ENABLES you to deal such damage is missing. In her case it was the multipliers. Here it's the steroids, because supports are still rather.. weak on them. Maybe her set saves her, if she gets one..
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Bibian
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>>543871607
He's not wrong. I assume they're talking about Manato. He's genuinely unplayable at m0.
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>>543869302
Meebus doesn't need a buff. The entire end game is focused around mechanics and resistances specifically aimed at her. Yet somehow she is still smashing nearly every non ice weak enemy on the current roster despite constantly ramping anomaly proficiency minimum requirements, ice res and freeze immunity. Devs are actively holding her down, hands tied behind her back and she's still the strongest. Yixuan wishes she was Miyabi.
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>>543871659
develop better taste or I'll nuke you from orbit
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>>543871260
I've never understood why you're so pissed about Trigger's quest but no, it's not even similar, they have nearly opposite issues.
Lucia's quest is so fucking rushed it barely even exists.
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And the amount of people who care
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BIBI
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>>543871819
Yixuan already mogged her though even without the support. Now shifu is strongest until Yeebs
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>>543867651
Grr disrespectful brat
Needs rape correction
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>>543869552
I don't doubt what you're saying, but it's kind of disappointing if she's just going to be Koleda but with a free ult and 25% better across the board
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>>543872125
preparing orbital laser
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>>543872127
>all 2.x bosses are made anti miyabi specifically to make her useless
>all 2.x bosses made with yixuan buffs and techniques in mind
>Shitfu barely edging out Meebus
Lol shitfu suckers really are dumb.
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>just need one copy for manato for m6 just need to wait for him to get added to the shop
fuck fun to play
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>>543872127
Yixuan is a fraud whose only claim to fame is dealing damage through Miasmic Shields
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>>543862072
To spite you guys. You are the worst spokespeople for your waifu.
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>>543872125
>Belle feeding Bibi icecream
Holy gay
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>>543862072
I pulled
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>>543872261
in the same boat. need his m5 and 6 but if I pull any more I will most likely fuck up my guarantee. looooove waiting.
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>>543872253
>>543872284
If a non VH agent could do this much then it only means that Meebs truly is washed
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>>543862072
because i cant not associate her with a bunch of 30+ anons who talk like children
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Is Manato perhaps the first character that running 3 2pc sets would be good for? He doesn't really benefit that much from 4pc Yunkui, 4pc Branch, or 4pc Woodpecker
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>>543860849
>actually be a girl on a scooter you play as 90% of the time
you're actually in the mech 90% of the time but you'd only know that if you used the character
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>>543872454
They're likely going to release another Rupture set soon.
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>>543872346
>>543872261
Repeat after me: A-ranks are easy to build!
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>>543871607
I didn't even want manato and I got him at m6w5
no excuse, poor southeast asians need not apply
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>>543872638
yes for physical most likely.
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who the fuck decided to make the 'The Prophecy' exploration mission, its so long and you only get 30 polys for it
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>>543872638
Yeah, but for the moment it looks like it might be the way to go. New discs aren't until 2.5 (and will probably be Zhao + Shunguang themed) so whatever effect they have might not even benefit him, as there's a decent chance neither are rupture characters.
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>>543846785
I find it unlikely personally. Shiyuan falls squarely in the archetype of people who do it for real - like take another look at his design, seriously. How many times have you seen a character like that turn backstabber? If you've seen a lot of stuff, it's a fucking lot of times.
The other reason I don't think so is because he's a temple character. Yunkui is lazy as fucking fuck and only tends to react to serious things, and Yixuan in particular is the worst offender. If he's double-agenting, he's doing it completely on his own, because nobody else there has the foresight to plant him.
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>>543872261
>>543872346
His M6 isn't even that essential
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>>543872728
It would suck if they element-lock it.

>>543872805
Ah, well that sucks. I guess they just think Yunkui would be enough of a catch-all, though it's a shame Manato can't really utilize it fully. I'm guessing Yid and Banyue don't have this issue?
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>>543872827
Or he could be just a drowned ideal scenario again seeing they introduced it
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>>543872827
If I'm not mistaken doesn't she literally have a line where says that he's doing some other assignment in the 2.2 story when the other characters ask where he is, while he's with Sarah? The fact it's so cliche also contributes to why I think he's not actually a traitor
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>>543872728
Doesn't Yidhari also kinda need a new set? I don't think she can keep up a good Yunkui uptime as a basic attack DPS
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https://2ch.life/gacha/src/5779609/17612895335090.mp4
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would you help Manato if he goes into heat?
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>>543873073
maybe but honestly if you can just get your rotations down should not be a issue but who knows they always curve ball stuff
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fucking finally
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>>543872967
His EX specials are pretty infrequent as they're basically locked to being the ending move of his enhanced basic state. You can get 3 stacks if you stun, chain into him, ult, and then EX special, but it only lasts for 15 seconds. It's during the stun window so I guess you'll get the bulk of the buff during it but by the point you get full stacks he's already done a big chunk of his damage for the stun window. 9% attack buff from woodpecker 4pc doesn't do a lot for him either, and it goes without saying the branch 4pc effect is totally useless on him. I really don't see a good reason to run 4pc Yunkui but I guess it's possible the 10% sheer buff during the stun is enough to make up for missing either 8% extra crit rate or 16% extra crit damage. I just think it's possible no one even did calcs for him with 3 2pc sets because it's a laughably bad idea for just about every other character in the game.

>>543873073
Polar metal 4pc might actually be good for her, I can't remember if her wind up spin to win move is counted as a basic or special attack. It's probably a special attack but if not it could be decent. 4pc branch doesn't seem that great since you probably don't want to waste what would be a slot 6 HP disc on AM
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>>543871658
Her current damage with the disks I've gave her seems fine. You're talking like she's running 5:180 as a crit ratio but at 50% crit rate with a forced crit on Martial Salute (hits for around 800k in Pompey stun), it's not like she isn't making use of her statline pretty regularly. Also for ATK% vs DMG% D5, it's not exactly some blowout. It's actually very close now that I go back and fiddle with it, adding an ATK% roll to the Ele% disk was enough to make it better again. Though ATK% goes back to better again if I disable Astra's buff assuming you play her with a Rupture agent.

She seems fine honestly, I feel like you're chimping out for no reason. Last time people I saw people ITT dooming over pre-release agent balance, they were insisting Yanagi would be useless without Grace of all characters.

>>543872454
2x Yunkui + double crit sets is probably usable and the least headache inducing but it's probably worse than Yunkui just given how much of your damage happens in stun. Might be an option if you know you're stuck with some flavor of Lucia+Pan type team though.
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Would Dialyn be good for Corin/Caesar team?
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>>543873552
Dialyn seems great for Corin in general, though something tells me she'll prefer a different support than Caesar.
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>Manato just casually spoiled where we're going next

Neat
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>>543873528
This time around I think people feel she's too overpowered and is just better than every other stunner in the game at everything, which in her current state is a valid concern. I'm not too mad because I only have fufu as a limited stunner and she isn't pushing one of my other agents out of a slot, but I can get why people with 2 or 3 out of 3 of Lighter Qingyi Fufu are upset.
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>>543873718
And he's coming with!
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>>543873647
Got it thanks. Might switch to W5 Corin sig for more energy regen with how fast Dialyn apparently stuns.
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>>543873718
The moon being a giant half-ether corrupted mass, the fact that most of this season we've been exploring a place called "Aerospace City", Zhao having moon written on her outfit, and the moon element symbol in the trigram wheel, are you really surprised?
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I will go to Alice
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>>543873858
would you help Banyue get the kitty?
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>>543873787
>Do not use my art for AI training
It's funny that they think this works or is of any legal consequence, drawfags are utterly delusional
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>>543873718
I will be slightly less mad at the Manato rank thing if they keep him as a recurring character.
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>>543873718
Emet Selch did this exact same thing and then every single one ended up being a massive dissapointment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySK5PXHsszo
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>make a whole ass tactics game within a game
>make it easy as fuck so I don't have to pay attention or use my brain in any capacity and just get 100% by going through the motions
What was the point?
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>>543873974
It isn't funny.
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do robots have milk?
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>>543874038
Events can never actually be hard because they're limited-time only.
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>>543874038
>music track kicks in another ost added to the list
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>>543874076
Just used an Ecudorian's child yearly supply of water to have GrokImagine(TM) animate this for me
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>>543874171
Good for you.
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>>543873752
The anon I'm replying to think she's too weak though lol. I actually think she's fairly balanced at the moment, she just looks really crazy in clips out of context when people post her at M0R1 with Impact D6%/Shockstar and go "wow she stuns instantly." And then proceed to ignore her failing to generate enough Rally for the next stun window because she and her teammate can't generate resources in time.

>>543873820
I think Corin sig is like the opposite of what you wanna run with the agent that makes you Ult extra times. It doesn't give any multipliers to anything other than her EX so it seems kind of bad. The real answer is that Dialyn probably should not be stunning as fast as people have her right now and won't be once people change her build, so whatever your normal build on her will probably be correct.
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>>543874038
its busy work to make sure the core gameplay doesn't overplayed
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so nice of Banyue to help Manato on his workout
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Which female characters will the male characters in zzz REALISTICALLY date?

For this, i will put the following points:

1) for every male character, only one anwser (you can repeat the same anwser for different males if you want)

2) it must fit their likings and their lifestyle

3) you must give reasons why x charcaters fits x character personally
Ps: i know this will get out dated really fast, so feel free to return and update it if new
male characters are added.
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>>543874518
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
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>>543874273
Even if you don't get a free ult on every stun, wouldn't 5 stuns with a couple missing the extra ult be preferable to 3 or 4 with a guaranteed extra ult? If you were only able to get the free ult on 3 of 5, you'd still have 8 in total, same if you got 4 free ults on 4 stuns. But then you'd also get the stun multiplier on more chain attacks and EX specials/enhanced basics then you would otherwise.. Decibel generation I guess could be an issue but I find that I usually generate more than enough to get an ult in every stun window. Some bosses I suppose this wouldn't be possible on with their miasma and invincible phases.
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>>543874273
So Kot w-engine would be better for Corn in this setup?
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>>543874518
haven't you posted this before
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>>543858695
wisewimps got real quiet after this
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>>543873181
Jufufu is very dangerous!!!
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>>543858695
>>543874826
Glad we all agree on the canon pandering Wise and Belle get from every released agent and the non existent headcanon ships outside of Phaethon
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>>543874810
Yixuan
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>>543871201
Is this /fa/?
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>>543862072
Proxy obsession
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>>543874250
Cute couple
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Isn't Anby cute?
Reply if you think Anby is cute.
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>>543875129
Love them.
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>>543873528
>it's probably worse than Yunkui just given how much of your damage happens in stun
You don't get the full buff until after you've done a lot of your damage already though, it's difficult to get 3 stacks in a stun window and THEN use his ult with the 10% sheer buff, especially if you don't time it out right and don't have enough adrenaline to use his EX special quickly enough.
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>>543875246
CUTE
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>>543875246
very cute
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>>543875246
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Answer the phone.
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I want to see what happens when Zhu Yuan meets Nekomata
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>>543875246
>Isn't Anby cute?
>Reply if you think Anby is cute.
I think her VA is cute
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>>543875786
perfect casting, i love her voice
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>>543875246
my only electric stunner since day one.
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>>543875721
I hope Nekomata can hold her breath...
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>>543858695
>the proxy has no canon birthday as it's set to the player's
>everything the Devs do they address it to (You) as the chosen proxy
Sounds like you're coping
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>>543874567
Honestly, stuns do barely anything in this shitty game, because the stun timer doesn't pause during the long animations of ults/chain attacks and so on. An extra 3 seconds is nice, but that's not helping much. And an extra ult isn't really doing anything much either, unless it's something busted like Alice m2, where an extra ult contributes like 6 million damage easily. (4 assaults disordering each other) And that'd be without the stun bonus multiplier.

I'm worried because of this. Ults are nice and all but for most characters it's just a fancy chain attack. Yes it hits harder (like three times as hard, usually) but does that REALLY matter considering the entire combat?

I'd assume her BIS (yet to be released) ally will have something special on their ult to make this worth. There has to be. But for everyone where this isn't the case I'm just not really seeing it. Her kit is too yank outside of dummy tests.
She absolutely has to hit her triple ex, and if the enemy decided to run away or become invincible after the first two steps.. you are fucked. And there are so many scenarios where I can see her kit to simply fail.


I have all the stunners but Lighter mind you. Some of them extremely heavily invested in, because they just release my favorite characters as fucking stunners all the time. And I'm going to be honest. It sucks liking the stun girls. And I'm seeing signs for the very same again.
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>>543875991
I wish all ults had a time dilation effect like Yixuan's.
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>>543872880
that's fine. for me a lot of the mindscape upgrades are so incrimental its hard to notice them. but i want to m6 the characters I like.
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does this look cool? be honest
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>>543876578
Jane and Burnice are too drowned out by the lighting.
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>>543876578
The glow of the ethereal part in front just fucked it, almost a cool shot
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>>543876578
The bright light in the foreground washes out the main subject. Bad composition. Sorry anon
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>>543876681
>>543876668
>>543876639
y'all just hating
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>>543876578
>repeats what everyone has already said but in a slightly different way
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>>543876827
I sent my post before I refreshed the thread and saw 2 other people had already replied, they were in like a minute of each other.
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okay okay i got it
what about THIS shot?
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>>543876060
Speaking of time-stop, how come Yanagi canonically has time powers but that's not represented in her kit whatsoever? You'd think it would be trivial to give her some Vital View whenever she does a defensive assist or ults, but nope, nothing.
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I raped fufu and I will rape again
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No more (You)s for you. You called me a hater.
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>>543877023
ethereals...
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>>543876924
Frame cuts off too much.
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>>543877023
she tanked that
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>>543877067
yall are never satisfied...
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>>543876924
Eh. Hard to tell what burnie and john are even doing.
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Could anyone give a quick rundown for a causal on how to play Nicole? Do you E, do you hold E, do you attack after an E, do you only E when you have energy, how often do you need to refresh the buff, etc
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damn the fellow banyue/manato lewders not in today?
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Imagine the triple leg lock with her tail pulling you in
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>>543877117
Your photos are shit anon. You asked us to be honest what did you expect?
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Belle is rape bait
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>>543877153
personally i just hold e then get her off field for someone else
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>>543877262
That helps, thanks. Just hold for a half a second or do you need to wait for some specific animation?
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>>543877250
its a joke man relax
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>>543877256
Built for her oni chan
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>>543877154
I'm in the cute Manato mood today, sorry
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>>543877370
being mean spirited and hyper critical is what most anons here do best. there is no chill.
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>>543877395
Wise only rapes shotas though
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>>543877153
If the enemy is far away I tap ex if the enemy is in my face I hold it and twirl the move stick so she does the cool extended animation
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>>543877461
*gets raped by
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do you guys play with a controller or keyboard?
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I got vivian but she doesn't seem that strong desu. I don't have yuzuha/alice/miyabi/jane, and astra is in another team.
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>>543877704
phone
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which one of the items is the most worth? i think the interlock pack is best since you get 2900polys for like $8
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>>543877704
Controller. Recently moved over to Xbox.
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>>543874567
Checking the one video I know of where they run Impact% with Dialyn sig, Pompey w/ Collapse buff. Barely 5 stuns, and they only use their third decibel ult in the last 5~ seconds during said 5th stun. Only 3 Rally buffs. If we scrub away Collapse for a moment (because you are 100% not getting that 5 seconds of the 5th stun without it) we can kind of reveal what the actual issue will be: 4 stuns, 3 Rally-Ults, 2 decibel ults via overcapping on decibels for prolonged periods. Compare that to Lighter in the same fight showing up with 4 stuns, 4 decibel ults. Are we really playing Dialyn for a net +1 stun usage across an entire fight? The amount of decibel waste and overcap that ends up happening when you stun uncomfortably fast is very real. Culling her Impact and running ER% to better align her resource generation for 4 stuns, 4 rallies, 4 decibel ults is the only sensible way to maximize her value at the moment I think.

This is personally why I think they will end up tweaking her values though. While I think she's balance-wise fine like she is now, most players don't want to think about weird concepts like decibel alignment and shit and will build her traditionally with Impact% just by default. Something like... lower energy costs with higher Rally gen in exchange for lower daze base values so that way even if she ends up exactly where she is now, the build that gets her there is more "normal" for players to land on without external guidance.
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>>543877704
Controller on PC, it’s easier to position and use motion inputs for the few characters that have them as a mechanic like Nicole. I read something about Banyue having motion inputs as well. Only downside is sometimes it locks onto the wrong enemy as a target and pushing the stick in to switch is sort of an awkward motion.
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>>543877768
I only play on phone for non-combat shit.
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... did we all use Hugo wrong all this time?

Imagine this for Astra-Seed-Hugo
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Hugo was booty raped by his father..
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>>543877923
>pushing the stick in to switch

o wtf i would've though that would've been one of the trigger buttons
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Banyue sex mode
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>>543877797
Yeah, you’re probably right. Funnily enough running her with fufu would help out a bit with the decibel issues. Not practical outside of maybe Hugo and Yixuan though.
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Try this with
Astra-Seed-Ellen

She swaps to an extra special roaming mode that makes her perform faster than normal.
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>>543877797
Anon, it's literally worthless to not use your ult asap, unless you know your stun is like 1 second away. This is because stuns themselves give a huge load of decibels.
You are making it sound like a stun is the only time you can ult, when this is very far away from the truth. Ults aren't that strong. The amount of TIME the usual ult eats means their dps is often actually lower than other burst that chars have.
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Here is probably an unpopular opinion: I think teambuilding is more fun in genshin, even after natlan. Both zzz and wuwa feel way too railroaded, restrictive, and boring.
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>>543878030
I could remap it but it’s one of the things that happens frequently enough to be annoying but infrequently enough that I don’t feel bothered to change it
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>>543878351
ZZZ has very flexible team building, there are always going to be meta compositions but almost every character can still clear with up to a dozen or more combinations. The recent endgame mode really reminded me of this.
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>>543878351
Based, core skill limitations is just there so you can keep rolling for new agents, imagine if our old limited stunners work with ruptures or anomaly and that would be great honestly
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>>543877768
does it not get hot?
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>>543877987
real shit ? can any huGODS confirm ?
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as expected of shifu
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>>543877951
Nah, hugo wants double stunner setup for his coreskill, astra buffs are neglible to him and you want to stun asap anyway
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>>543878332
Yes, I'm aware that you can just ult outside of stun to not lose usages. But this doesn't really solve the problem with ult alignment, it just kicks the can down the road lol. Ult out of stun inbetween first and second stun and now you're just going to encounter the same dilemma in 40 seconds.
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>>543878536
Not really. I only spend enough time to do dailies and fuck around a bit. When I do story or combat stuff I switch to pc.
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>>543878519
Koleda and Pulchra had their core passives updated to include Rupture agents in 2.0. You’re not technically wrong since neither are limited but they did change old characters to let them interact with the new archetype.
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>>543878620
That one is Seed centric gameplay though.
Hugo might be a really underappreciated attacker assistant.
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>>543878650
I mean I usually struggle to get ult alignment with my dual anomaly teams, and I’m still able to do fine even using the first set of them out of the stun window. Granted they work a little bit differently than attack/rupture style DPS ults.
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>>543860819
I am 25 pulls away and look forward to playing my mono-JK in swimsuits team. The one thing I wish they did was to give Vivian some kind of major event or at least a big part in it to shill the skin harder.
Having Alice's fat bunners jiggling around the screen while on the surfboard sold me on that one
>>543861413
What we need even more is a simple way to rewatch the last wipeout screen and screenshot a specific frame from it. I have missed or ruined so many kino shots just by being a fraction of a second too slow
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>>543878712
You’re not going to get many stuns with that team, and he also eats up the stun bar.
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Lucia is wierdly inexpressive during combat and this new photo event just showcases that.
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>have lost all 50/50s and gotten no soft pity since Burnice
I think the game wants me to start spending money...
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>>543878932
She might get a story event in 2.4 towards the end of it. Seems like it’d be fitting for what’s shaping up to be a more light-hearted patch.
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>>543878941
You don't understand what Seed gameplay is I guess.
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>>543878874
Spoiler that, bro. Almost shit myself.
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For Banyue pullers, is Lucia's sig weapon good?
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fufu love!
fufu life!
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My favourite factions are obol and SoC
What does that say of me
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>>543879171
You like women
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>>543879145
The biggest draw of her Engine is reaching her 24k HP threshold better. If you're able to do that without it, I believe she has fairly good F2P options.
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>>543879113
Thankfully, you’re correct. I probably shouldn’t speak on such matters
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>>543879171
You are white
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>>543879145
any leak on banyue kits?
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Do I need to diversify damage and types in my account?
Right now im very fire heavy i guess. I had started with S11 and now I have manato
As far as physical goes I have Piper, ive got Grace too, but they aint built

Should I get Yidhari so I can have an ice agent?
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>>543878850
>bringing up Anomaly agents
Anomaly agents are a very different breed, you generate decibels faster via Anomaly in general and stun windows are so sparse in non-stunner Anomaly comps that naturally you do not hold them for stun. Attack/Rupture are very much interested in ult alignment though, it's like half of the entire value of Ju Fufu for example lol.
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>>543879271
Everyone forgets there’s a B-rank support engine with 20% HP and recommends either cradle or kaboom for some reason. All of the guide sites assume you’ll be able to hit 22k minimum off subs alone which is nearly impossible for anyone who spends only a reasonable amount of energy on disc grinding.
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>>543864904
>He calls someone else a homo while posting a Rondo Duo .webm
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>>543879162
Explain using at least five sentences why you love Fufu
Hard mode: No Jackie Chan
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>>543879162
JuFufu!
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>>543878874
She would have looked even better if they gave her actual fur on her legs.
>inb4 ur a furry
Yes I want to fuck pulchra.
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>>543879302
Yeah tons anon
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>>543879302
Harumasa 2.0
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>>543879275
It's bad to talk into topics you don't know much about.
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>>543879418
very scary senior apex tiger
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>>543879418
Isn't Fufu and Yunkui Summit in general based more on Bruce Lee? Their faction uniforms are literally yellow.
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Thoughts on this ship?
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>>543877153
nicole's main purpose is to keep her debuff active as much as you can with her briefcase bullets (normal attack) and black hole (EX, chain atk and ult)
the debuff icon only appears on main bosses that have this big healthbar on the top right of the screen tho, you'll have to guess the uptime with other enemies
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>>543879050
Nice, good to know they haven't forgotten about her beyond the skin
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banyue gonna be free, its gonna be banyue and shifu rerun banner. screencap this
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>>543879251
Lighter...
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>>543879570
Sentences, not words. Come on, anon...
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>>543879302
Godstern25 has already made the definitive banyue mega guide
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what do they usually give out during anniversary events?
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I wish I could pay for agents occasionally, but when I break the F2P rules I spend way too much money.

Also, which agent is best for Paizuri?
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>>543879703
Monster-Slaying Tiger Mystic
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>>543869381
She is from krampus, which likely will get its own bangboo soon (which is pretty likely with 3 characters coming up) or somewhere down the line.
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reminder evelyn bis will be dialyn, not wormter
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Weird that they did not put the manato boss for this shiyu rotation
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that lucia and manato main story scenes were kino. glad I got both of them
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>>543879830
Alexandrina
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>>543879859
Anon, I...
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>>543879621
Power couple.
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>>543879923
you have AIDS
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>>543879404
>All of the guide sites assume you’ll be able to hit 22k minimum off subs alone which is nearly impossible for anyone who spends only a reasonable amount of energy on disc grinding
My Lucia is pretty terribly built and this just isn't true, 23~24k is hard as balls but 22k is like... you might be helpless if you think this is out of reach lol.
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>>543879896
You guys said the same about jufufu
Serious talk tho, free ult on stun seems nice but dyalin seems like an off field stunner and eve wants a partner who actually does stuff and has a bit of field time when going in so she can stockpile resources and the lighter buff is still the biggest specific buff in the game
Guess we will have to wait for testers
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>>543877152
showing their FAT asses to the creepy ojisan with the camera
>>543877442
yea the first post i actually wanted to know people's opinions, but I thought the others were lighthearted enough that it’d be obvious they weren’t serious
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>>543879696
>implying Lighter isn't a cute girl in disguise
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>>543879923
said no one
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Beta server still in maintenance? Should we expect major kit adjustments?
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>>543879929
Unrivaled Almighty Senior
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>>543880039
They play very similarly in practice, I think she'll pair quite well with Evelyn. Behind Lighter by a bit but way better than Ju Fufu. Biggest thing being that Dialyn enables Puffer Electro for the babies who are too scared of Hormone Punk.
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>>543880042
Honestly, if Lighter was a cute punchgirl then I would have rolled.
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>>543879923
said everyone
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>>543880012
where the fuck is the double disk drop event aren't we do for one
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>>543880135
Anon... Less words don't give you more sentences...
You can type out five sentences about why you love Fufu. I believe in you, anon!
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>>543879830
Komano Manato
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Why did they translate Xiao Zhao as Zhao-chan? It makes her sound like a stuffed mascot, especially when Dialyn calls her Zhao-chan senpai...
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Pure aura
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Fufu's here!
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why are they shilling for ice rupture bosses already when the character isn't available yet
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>scrounge enough to do another 10 pull off shiyu
>still no lucia
at least this reset didnt have any hard boss fights
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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>>543880279
idoora?
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Lighter
75% fire damage
3s stun extension
- 15% fire resistance

Dialyn
50% damage buff
3secs stun extension
quick assist
+35% stun damage modifier
upgrade chain attack to ultimate once every stun window
makes puffer electro Evelyn BiS

Am I missing something? I can't see how Lighter is better for Eve and I'm not even counting Dialyn high burst damage from her guaranteed crit EX special and better impact modifier than Lighter.
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>>543880541
So you job at first so when you get Yidhari you realize how much easier it is.
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>>543880541
Because that's how gacha games work. Introduce you to a problem you didn't know you had, sell you the solution you didn't know you needed.
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The second fight in the new shiyu defense last node is absolute fucking ass cancer. Hurr durr let's put in 15 second invincibility phase where they disappear and can't do damage but the time still counts, because fuck you, so I get A rank due to a few seconds being too late because of this shit.
Suck my cancer out of my ass.
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>>543868471
I am not defending it, but that shit is an unavoidable and unfortunate part of gacha games.
These companies want people to pay for their new characters and will have to shill them in the game.
Nobody will pull for the shiny new characters if the old ones do the job just fine and the most easy way to make them worth pulling over existing characters is to make them deal more damage or make up some combat gimmick the end game bosses are shilled towards.
Even games where this happens less aggressively will have older characters fall off eventually once their rosters become bloated enough.
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>>543880665
put it in the survey DA included
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>>543880598
its just wormter rolling coping, dont pay them any mind
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>>543878090
Link full please
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>>543880586
Yeah
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>>543880541
I'm skipping ice again even though it's my favorite element
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>>543880760
>I am not defending it, but
>defends it
why even waste time posting this brown shit
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>>543880471
Fufu Arrive!
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Do they have something like Playboy or Hustler in New Eridu?
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>>543880768
https://x.com/Hwolf_HR/status/1981532931337433334
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>>543868471
Bro in this da rotation I did 20k on the ice anomaly shill boss with my c0w1 ellen
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>>543881136
>B-But I did...!
[ - ]
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>>543880665
Is it the twins boss?
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>>543881075
Ty
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>>543869339
Ignore the faggot who said to remove forced merge
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>>543868471
don't care. don't do shiyu or da at all most of the time.
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>>543869339
I like corn
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>>543879113
>seed gameplay requires a high IQ you'll never understand, brainlet
classic snud response
(sneed chud)
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Shifu... Love!!!
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>decide to throw some 10 pulls towards Lucia's engine since it's good and I should get 5 or 6 of manatos
>50 pulls in
>no S Rank
>2 Manato engines

Getting pretty sick of this game
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>>543881396
I can see her butt!
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Quick-assist is such a massive cornerstone of ZZZ that it's practically impossible to make Astra obsolete.
There will be more agents in the future who takes avantage of quick assist just as much as Vivian does.
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did they say why they're not churning out skins like other gacha games?
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>>543881404
I only had 50 pulls to use on manato and my first 10 pull gave me 4 pipers. I nearly killed myself.
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>>543865598
Sometimes it's weird. Half my disks are crap and I'm top 60%? lol
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https://2ch.life/gacha/src/5779609/17613032768180.png
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Best campfire story to tell to scare Alice?
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>>543865598
I removed stun 2 piece for branch felt like shock wasn't helping at all.
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>>543880937
Yeah. With special editions for thiren women
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I'm gonna need Lucia for Banyue aren't I?
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slutty Manato >>>cute Manato
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>>543880665
It was actually very easy after I tried it again, did it first time actually (if we don't count the bullshit becuase that shouldn't count everybody knows that, so first try)

Suck my fucking cock retarded hoyo.
>>543881239
Yeah.
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>>543882090
I really like this post
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>>543882090
non-existent Manato>>>>>
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This is the best configuration for
Astra Vivi Mibi
The fastest possible quick-assist Astra that can maximise the most Ablooms.
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>>543882090
That's OOC, Manato would never
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>>543881486
Everyone can! i think Shishou is into that....
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I raped Belle without lube…
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Belle is so pretty I can't handle it
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>>543882061
You are gonna need Lucia for every Rupture DPS, yes.
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>>543882090
Both
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It's OVER
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>>543881724
the unbeatable tower bricker
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>>543882332
R-really!? Why would she be into people being able to see her butt? It's a super private part of the body...
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>>543882589
fuck wormter dev
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>>543882709
my midjourney wife
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LighterCHADS won
WormschizoSISSIES lost
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>>543882813
YOU HAVE AIDS
YOU HAVE RECTAL PROLAPSE
YOU HAVE ANAL WORMS
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>>543882964
Repeat after me
UNDEFEATED
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the supports are stronk!
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>>543882813
I bet you enjoy kissing boys...
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>>543883052
>stronk
this isn't reddit
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SD was pretty easy this time.
Where is the fabled 2.3 HP inflation?
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>>543882628
she's a whore
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>>543882589
This is better. Much better.

-C-Rate instead of damage: Now she can actually deal solid damage with all her abilities, which is big because her ex special, chain attack and ult are much bigger than the occasional martial salute.

-No longer yank requirements for getting the self crit damage buff that now affects everything mattering? Also just another plus.

-Engine is now finally having something for the team, which was DIRELY lacking before. The lower daze increase is worth it, because stuns aren't THAT big. Gains more impact now anyways.

Actual nerfs are only a very small one to stun multiplier and the dmg uptime. But this has to be an overall win considering how fucking YANK her concept was before. Now they have a working base-line.
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WORMTER stays on TOP of Wise
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>>543883416
Shifu engages in sex for pay?
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>>543883502
She's the one paying.
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>>543882709
How big are her areolas?
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>>543883574
Isn't she then the customer in the prostitution scenario?
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jesus christ Lucia and Yidhari's stories are so boring I feel like I'm losing IQ
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>>543883779
You can't lose something you didn't have.
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>>543883432
It's utter crap now. You will never get anywhere near the 80 bonus impact, let alone 100 impact.

Enjoy your +40 impact and Nerfed daze.
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Waterkuma status?
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We need a fun agent story again.
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>>543883869
People here roll for sigs
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>>543883867
you would know huh
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that fishing side-game was stupid
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>>543883416
She is just a christmas cake looking for a partner.
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>>543884034
Your max is now capped at 50 instead of 80 and there is now ay around that
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JUST POWERCREEP WORMTER, WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT HIM WHY THE FUCK THEY NEED TO MAKE A NEW UNIT TO BE BALANCED AROUND THAT WORM
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WUWON
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I finally got manatos ball bros.. still upset I pulled Lucias I feel forced to try and pull her
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We need a Lighter for every element.
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>>543884476
HOLY KINO
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>>543884476
3.X will be academy city due to Alice massive success.
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>>543883907
making another chinse loli stunner for 3.0
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>>543884565
>oh no I'm pulling for the most broken support perfect for my Manato!
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>>543884565
>>543884609
you have ANAL FISSURES
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>>543884682
I lost pity and barely have any pulls left, I likely won't have enough to pull for her because I haven't stuck with the game which is the issue.
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>>543884610
Copied Escoffier
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>>543884476
>>543884610
HOLY SHIT

When are we getting our Japan arc, bros?
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Help me get to 24K HP
Despite reasonable discs, I'm still stuck at
21401 HP.

Which disc should I upgrade?
Do I really need to swap to 2p Yunkui?
Do I really need to use Reverb mk3?
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>>543884717
It's actually anal rupture
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wait this game has variants? why is there 3 different Andys?
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smell a little wormy in here
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Who is Andy?
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>>543884815
>Nanamin + Shiki + Fibonacci
yeah we lost
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>>543884945
It's you!
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>>543884819
Not gay but
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>>543884819
Not straight but
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>>543885202
>>543885202
>>543885202
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>>543884817
Getting to 24k without sig is just not happening unless you are seriously disk gaming, but you do want Yunkui 2pc. ER is kind of useless on her past a point, check the example I posted up >>543880012 for an idea of what you need and just shoot for 22~23k at max. Your other disks are already good-ish enough, with Yunkui 2pc you should be around that post w/o any stress.
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IT'S OVER, CHISA GAMEPLAY JUST DROPPED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pJ9zzZ-2cQ
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>>543860423
baka



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