New Hotness Edition>Previous>>543823372>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSOct 23 Patch 4.1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBW4NumlYHo>LATEST PATCHESOct 23 1.004.100 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/538868565209514366
if the rec-6 comes out in the datamined state, where you have to cycle firing modes in order to detonate the charges, it's dogshitthe fact that they even slapped a backpack on it is so fucking stupid, the entire point of the weapon is being backpackless and extremely close range
>>543866775woah sick heist with a clean getaway, might try this in place of the old obsalette thermites
haven't done much bugs since i started playing (due to whatever MOs), but i have quickly learned the difference between struggling or not is a turret stratagem
since there was no warbond, which do i get? so far: steeled -> demolition -> borderline
>>543866941Dynamite can now destroy fabs from the outside aswell.
>>543866926Doesn't one shot heavies. Doesn't out perform recoiless eco wise.Doesn't have a greater radius than the fucking HE nade.Absolutely DOA untested warbond slop
Hellmire is the best planet next to all snow planets
>>543867061
I love how everytime someone suggests to make an enemy more "fun", the suggestions always boil down to making the enemy weaker and less deadly. Weird definition of fun.
>>543867110>gaylo warbond above the best grenade in the game.
>>543867183Mindbroken.
>>543867230Meme nade
>>543867183They could have reduced the warstriders ragdolling and given it weakspots but could have given him other things instead to counteract
>>543867110>Freedoms Flame>>543867230>pyrotechAnons...the fire...
>>543867079The main new use for the Dynamite is its ability to blow up Bile Titan holes, meaning that Ultimatum is no longer mandatory for clearing underground nests. If you wanted to blow up Fabricators and were within grenade-throwing range, a Frag into the vent or door would do the trick.
>>543867110What an awfull list, even before it was outdated.
whats with the meme of giving the frag grenade one more grenade every "big balance patch"
>>543867541Trying to compensate for the power creep.
>>543867420I agree, but blowing up fabs from any angle is a nice utility.Especially because it has a long fuse so you can make long throws without it airbursting.
>>543867420Naw blowing up fabs from any angle is very substantial. Don't have to enter sight lines and can hit two at once if they're close. Like the hulk base.
>>543867061>control group (for warp -ack) plus variable is the most high skillgap, versatile weapon in the game>servants of femdom, the matum, simple as. portable hellbomba. 2x edge sickle (super good, esp with 75% fire resistance/on cold planets)>dusk debiles gaspoon gun and the 'yote (not as OP as many made it out to be but a very good AR) the passive is great for hiveworlds, inc. 40% fire res if u wanna run w edger dooblay
>>543867641>I agree, but blowing up fabs from any angle is a nice utility.Strafing run does this but better.
>>543867541No clue should have been how it was to begin with. Ironically these number changes make grenade armor substantial. Like with dynamite.>>543867678Strafing run isn't a grenade.
Do super credit hacks still work
>>543867061>>543867110here is the Ohdough-fficial >>>/hdg/ey/them tier lisk >https://live.tiermaker.com/95980019
>>543867297Ragdolling sucks, and the leg joints should have always been AP3, but they honestly went too far with nerfing the Warstrider.
>>543867738It's better since you get more eagle charges than you do grenades, and the eagle uses recharge.
>>543867274Nta, but>makes fire patch on ground>can function as AT>closes holes and breaks fabs>you get 6 of themThey aren't the best, but they've got good utility. It definitely deserves better than 4 guns you can't modify.
>>543867750try it pwussass niqle
>>543867678But strafing isn't a grenade or eagle airstrike.
>>543867664alright... (not quite what youre recommending but) ill do the fire gang into femdom
>>543867824But strategems aren't grenades lol
>>543867845Amendment is also really good if your not an AP3 shitter and the armour passive is arguably better than siege ready.
>>543867613but the HE grenade is the default and sucks ass
>another hellmire invasionFOR THE LOVE OF GODLET US SET UP MORE DEFENSES ON THE PLANETI DON'T CARE IF I NEED TO DONATE 10 MILLION GOD DAMN SAMPLES JUST GIVE US MORE PASSIVE RESISTANCE ON THE PLANET AHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>543867754>all these people voting Polar Patriots for B tier>Viper Commandos getting that many A votesTrash tier opinions, the lot of them.
>>543867902Im going to slap that ass so hard eagle-1 will cum in her jumpsuit
>>543868134>new MMO>donate 10 million common samples>and 5 million rare samples>and 1 million super samples>as well as a billion credits>seaf now patrol every single map>artillery available from the start on every single map >1 min cool down and alternates between napalm, high explosion, and nuke>passive 1% reclamation amount for defense missions
>>543867902I cannit, I'm on icks box
>>543866350Make them more engaging. Shooting a leg off slows it down but doesn't prevent it from charging, shooting both of them off does stop it from charging and makes it crawl. However, since it's got four arms, its base movespeed is actually a little faster crawling than it was on two legs. When all its limbs are destroyed, it dies. This would give players an incentive to blow off the arms instead of just kneecapping it like the voteless. Arms are immune to explosives, legs and heads are still susceptible.Each head destroyed should induce a stacking bleedout.Play around with the total HP, limb health/durability, and adrenaline-fueled crawl-speed until it's dangerous, but still fun to fight.
>30 demolition force>light armor penetrating (suppressed)
>>543868452>However, since it's got four arms, its base movespeed is actually a little faster crawling than it was on two legssounds like the regenerators from RE4
Maybe they'll upgrade the Justice's armor pen before release.
>>543868534super_copium.bat
>>543868534Very doubtful since the description mentions subsonic ammunition.
>new gun is announced to be AP2>tourist have a complete mental breakdown over itThis might be the best part of warbond leaks.
yea it's cool
if you ask me anyone that claims to have trouble farming headshots with DCS or similarly low ergo guns is genuinely debilitated
>another light pen dmr but this time with a suppressor that doesn't do anything!We're never getting updates to weapon customization, are we?
>>543868526I wouldn't know, I never played it. I was trying to think of ways to make them like necromorphs from dead space with the limb severing system
>>543868840Why does Riker have a gun?
>>543868452Honestly I hope when they release the psychic squids there's seeds (or factions like the jeet brigade) without voteless and fleshmobs. These are good ideas but personally if I wanted to fight a swarming melee horde I'd dive against bugs.>>543868534>>543868752>>543868842Hopefully they buff the stealth mechanics in some way, seems like they want to with the bot drop nerf.
>>543868752>Very doubtful since the description mentions subsonic ammunition.The VSS uses 9x39mm subsonic AP ammo. If you can't make the bullet fast, then you just make the bullet heavy.
>>543868794this armor set fucks so hard. wish it wasn't light
>>543868762it's going to be the amendment 2.0
>>543868762We don't need another 0.1% global pick rate Amendment situation. The best stealth guns are the ones that do peak dps, can exploit as many weak points as possible, and have high effective range.
ermmm the justice is supposed to be medpen
>>543868970>it's going to be the best DMR 2.0Nice.
>>543869083it should be heavy pen with 15 round capacity mag size, 10 round capacity short mags, and no drum mag options...
>>543869105>best DMR>ignored by near 100% of marksman diversk
>>543869183who are these "marksman divers"? you brought them up a couple months ago and never named them
>>543869172short mag heavy pen DMR is unironically the only niche they can still fill as far as rifles go
>>543869183>marksman divers
>>543869306it should have no semi-auto option in exchange for having manageable ergo and recoil
usecase for crossbow that isnt covered by eruptor
>>543869425One hand shields
>>543869425Shooting more than once every 5 seconds.
>>543869425Ballistic shield memes.
Thank you reddit niggers, the game is ruined.
>>543869585Thats right. Its time for (You) to uninstall and never come back.
>>543869318as in everyone that can pass more than the bare minimum aim checks at point blank range, a category that doesn't include a certain prolific webm poster
>Fix digger bugs>Invade Hellmire with Predditor bugs againWhy?
>>543868858Necromorph Illuminate subfaction where you have to cut off thier limbs would be a neat idea.
>>543868794Torcher any good with the new fire changes? Also did they fix fire/gas damage not working if you're too far from the host?
>>543869425Looking like a dweeb.
>>543869425I found the higher rate of fire a bit more useful vs dig bugs. Especially within caves.
>>543869808>heads are one tap for all DMRs>so if you can aim AP2 is indistinguishable from AP3
>>543866926Wait, the backpack in the image is for the fucking C4?
did they change melee weapons to med pen
>>543870201
Imagine an active camo stratagem... Would be perfect for this warbond. Something like "go invisible for a total of 15 seconds, but every 1 second invisible adds 2 seconds of recharge time" and it removes enemy aggro better than smokes.Bonus effect: removes you from your teammates HUD making it easier for them to teamkill you.Never ever though because sweden.
>>543870251Anon....
>>543870390Man fucking why? Where are the rest of the leaks?
>>543869105>Was dog shit on release>Only with concentrated bitching did it become usefulReminder that buff chads are the only reason you can have anything nice. Be thankful when they bitch about new guns that suck.
>>543870401I can imagine pubbies using it now.>Shoots big ass patrol>Drop/Breach is called>Runs towards teammates>Cloaks and runs awayAnd all of that done without a hint of malice.
>>543870401I was really hoping for an active camo packback and throwing a nade doesn’t break the cloak so you could set up a bunch of C4 or long fuse dynamite around a base and blow a bunch of shit up.
>>543870401It really does feel like it's gonna be a stealth armor. But that's weird as fuck for a passive. Probably just gonna be like stealth, and smoke fields makes you 100% invisible on entry
>>543870560just google discord helldivers 2 leaks
>>543869425longer range, faster RoF
Need to know what the armor does now fuck
How do we fix the directional shield?
>>543870390>6 C4For it being a backpack stratagem, it should be at least a dozen.
>>543870901Upgraded scout passive or some shitbonus damage when hitting enemies in the back (i.e almost never)
>>543870589>got 15 ergoIt's not that big a deal for me, nice to have but it worked fine for me on release.
>>543869820>did they fix fire/gas damage not working if you're too far from the host?no. they keep mentioning the bug where every client was calculating DoTs and making them do 4x dmg they were supposed to, as though that bug was recently relevant. there has been 0 acknowledgement from them (no the CM doesn't count) that they know its an issue
Is the stealth warbond armour actually super sneaky or is it yet again worse than scout?
>>543870401>and it removes enemy aggro better than smokes.five times 0 is still 0
>>543870904Immune to explosive ragdoll. Can be used with a two handed gun but with worse ergo and improved recoil.
>>543870904Give it some special snowflake slot so that it doesn't occupy your backpack slot.
>>543870992fucking sweden. Is torcher/flamethrower still serviceable in d10?
>>54387098415 ergo bumps it up from jar to nearly slugger movement. The 30 to 60 range is a massive difference compared to 0 to 30 or 60+.It was basically on par with jar for ergo if not worse.
>>543871079They made all enemies ""slightly"" more resistant to fire damage as a indirect way to nerf the Coyote. Slightly means a lot if you look at the actual math. So this paired up with the DoT glitch, means they are even weaker than before.
>>543871020Smoke drops aggro to under sentry and other objects/teammatesSmoke is unreliable for a lot of shit but dropping aggro is one of its strongest suits.
>>543867754Yup, game is still unfair bullshit. We need more buffs.
>>543871203WE ARE NOT NERFING COYOTE>nerfs coyoteWE ARE BUFFING AP3 ARS TO FEEL LIKE THE COYOTE>+5 damage Worst part is everyone called it. Like I think people even bingo carded, stealth nerf and +5 damage verbatim.
>conceit>lack of objectivity>hyperluminescent projectionit's a nirah episodeget a job NEET loser
>>543871020My comment implied addition not multiplication, also smokes do drop aggro, specifically if I recall correctly they act as a wall so bots will still shoot in to it and run in to look for you, but it starts their internal timer before they fully lose aggro.>>543870664Hopefully >>543870697 is correct and the armor has stealth abilities somehow to make arming a base with c4 viable.
i want a nirah episode where they spread their hole
>>543868762I thought we were getting the Justice? Surely the OG heavy AR isn't stuck with light pen?
>>543871414he raped you once and now you live with PTSD for the rest of your life? man i'm sorry
>>543871414Incredible projection once again mr slippers
>>543870697>Make armor for every element>Make smoke armor where you just shimmer field invisible insideNot gonna happen though, they'd have to give us a bunch of auto aim weapons in the warbond. Then again they've given us completely irrelevant armor before.
They nerfed the heckin' coyote!! However will we stomp our way through D10 now, my fellow diver bros?
>>543870904You do the same thing that put support weapon ammo backpacks out of business last year: buff all the shit that would synergize with it. Shit like Recoilless and Autocannon fell out of favor because backpack stratagems became absurdly strong, so in this case you buff one-handed weapons so that people will want to carry the Directional Shield more. And yes, what the other anon said is also true, make it more resistant to explosive impacts so that you're more able to stand your ground and protect your team with it.
>Dragonroaches spawn on eradication missions
>>543870401>oribital smoke barrage
>>543871203What IS the actual math? Crazy how easy that was to see coming though.
>>543871414This nigga got RAPED at the /HDG/ meetup.
>sneaking suit >30% lower detection when standing >50% when crouching >90% when prone >going prone when detected drops a smoke grenade at your location 30 second cooldown Id use it, would suck losing out on racer pings from scout but you could pull some fun stunts with it and a free smoke nade let’s you try to get back into sneaking when it goes hot or at the very least buys you a moment to get to cover.
>>543871883the /hdg/ meetup of 1992...
>>543871805>>543871893I WANT INVISIBLE!!! Idc if smoke is technically better because it would help your teammates too. I want the metal gear chinese stealth armor skyrim archer dick ass theif experience.
>>543871991thisinvisible > smoke
>>543871893fart armor
>>543871991Never going to happen for a passive, packback was out only hope.
wow that's actually a pretty big change for breakpoints.
buff the orbital cluster smash thing
Unfortunately as much as I yearn to relive mgs ground zeros in hd2 I agree.
>>543872203It'sfuckingnothing.jpg
>stealth warbond >nothing stealthy It would almost be funny if it wasn’t so sad
>>543870904make it a hardlight ballistic shield with more hp than the bubble shield but less than the ballistic shieldreduce its width so you aren't soaking dmg that would've missed you anyway
>>543871831Check last thread for a summary
>>543870904make it an attachment
>>543871893>sneaking suitI prefer the animals camo actually
So justice is going from an SA80 looking thing that fired rounds that would punch through infinite enemies to a Diligence side grade with a non functional suppressor?
>>543872203>fill the patch notes with two gorillion minor durable damage buffs>increase durability of enemies across the board to counter these buffsTruly a smoke screen patch lel
Has anyone tested the change to Dragon yet? How was it?
>>543872648You can be a proper WW2 flak cannon now with the AC on flak mode against these fuckers.
>>543870664>>543872158>packbackbrown nigger ai glowie
Watch the gas pistol be a single target gas application kek
>>543872619they're selling us the illusion of a suppressor, not a real one :3
>>543872779It will be the stim pistol but it causes gas effect on hit
I guess with C4 being a backpack you could take smokes to try and be sneaky? It’s fucking over
>>543872779it's supposed to be an MGS tranq pistol, so yeah it probably will be. that's still a really strong thing to have as a sidearm, you can basically turn off any enemy with it
>>543872739Is AC the only support that is quick enough to clip its wing? I imagine the explosive resist makes it durable against rocket like EAT or RR.
>>543872739Did flak get buffed, it felt stronger when i used it against bots yesterday.
>>543872908Well the description mentions making enemies frenzy, so maybe it’ll have a unique gas effect that will make them actively target allies? That could be neat if the suppressors actually work>sneak up to base with new stealth armour that will totally work >drop the few light guards near entry>inject big target on other side of base to cause a distraction and draw enemies away >C4 the enemy spawners Could be neat. Really massively depends on how sneaky the new armour makes you and if suppressors will actually work. You can be decently sneaky with scout but more so for avoiding patrols, once you get to a base it’s not really going anything.
>Woke up>Hellmire attacked again
How many AC shots to a war strider red eye to kill it?
>>543873167its last buff was like 5 months ago.
>>543873417I heard 4
>>543873417should be 3 if maths is mathing correctly.
this feels like the most random schizo changes to the warstriders health pool. Unironically no different from shooting leg joints for the back shots, meanwhile the eyes are basically tiny leg joints.
>>543873212bugs yearn for fire
>>543872620that's the whole point.>increase ap2 damage by x>increase enemy HP by x>indirectly nerf ap3
>>543873512Railgun can one shot the eye which is nice
>>543873623aqua sex
>>543873642gross
>>543872203what enemy
>>543873721warriors, alphas got buffed too
>>543873617It's no god damned wonder that they're harder to ignite now. They're practically natural selecting themselves to be fireproof.
>>543873819i don't really care because i use light pen 24/7
>>543873191>Well the description mentions making enemies frenzy, so maybe it’ll have a unique gas effect that will make them actively target alliesthat's just gas
>>543873512with new nu-AMR takes 1 less shot to joints from 6 to 5 but also only needs 3 to kill in the new Eyes. Doesnt really change much except for precision weapons vs. them. Railgun also fucks on them in 1 shot to the eyes now and should also one shot the vent with an extreme charge shot.
>>543873512>Rear VentsHUH???
>>543874150Gas makes enemies attacking randomly, since it mentions sending enemies into a frenzy maybe it’ll be more directed aggression?
>>543871773you're joking, right?right?
>>543874178is this ai?
I'm hoping the new stealth armor reduces the time it takes enemies to lose you in addition to having like 50% of the scout's stealth passive, I think that's the best we can hope for. Worst case is them trying to give it the nonfunctional and gimmicky ODST audio stealth.
>socom still takes two shots to drop a dev because LOL you lose 1 damage when the bullet leaves the barrelwhat the actual fuck are we seriousdoes AH even know that's how guns work
>>543874178i wish i could keep the stim pistol on me, but not having a side-arm when out of primary rounds sucks too muchmaybe if there was a dedicated melee slot it would be do-able for me. i want to meth up my allies again
>>543874008Carbine goes brrrr. If bugs died a little slower today, I didn't notice it.
I couldn't kill a roach on my test run with AC on D6 :(
>>543874448Everybody knows that you make guns shoot harder by diving forward while shooting. That was how the krauts conquered France in the famous operation leapfrog
Into the Unjussy
>>543874448>does AH even know that's how guns worknowell, maybe the guys designing the models do, but not the ones balancing the game
>>543874448all ballistic weapons have damage fall off short king.
>>543874830not all weapons are literally 1 dmg short of a breakpoint
>>543874323
>>543874173>>543873642yeah they're basically bait for AMR, AC, and Railgun.HMG and LC got shafted super hard. Vents being ap4 was surprising.Kinda alright with this, but this does make precision ap4 weapons king on bots like they always were.
>>543874323https://x.com/PT_CROW/status/1979916336907313427
>>543874904I mean their fix would have to be like a 5 point damage buff because they always do 0 or 5 as their end point. Even then with pistol drag it would only one shot up to like 15 meters tops.
>>543874905>okay AI now draw this as if this were outlinedbut yeah I doubt it's ai
>>543874406>ODST audio shitPlease no it’s so useless. 50% reduced detection plus something else could be good, but the biggest reason scout is so good for being sneaky is the radar ping so you can easily avoid patrols. Maybe 50% reduced detection radius but it goes to 90% or something silly when prone do you can actually sneak into a base.
>>543874730>No big juicy abdomenIts like an angel without wings... Still would though.
>>543874178The guy posted a greenscreen version so I made it into transparent .png for easier editing.
>>543875481This needs some big fat robutt
the eye weakspot on the war strider is such a fucking baitspamming the leg kills them way faster
>>543875481>ChargerJigglePhysics.gif
>>543874830most games will code damage falloff to not start until X meters, not LITERALLY as soon as the bullet exits the chamber
>>543875546ive found it way easier to hit the eye on top of the machine rather than one on its body.
>>543875546this or joint.Vents even worse.I was worried they neutered warstriders, but they actually feel deadlier now specially now they dont' just ragdoll you (they just kill you instead)
Thinking about the Combine (nonexistent laser machine gun)
>>543875481>>543875545
>bug major order>equip gas drone and torcher>can't kill anythingfuck why do dot damage weapons suck so much ass
>>543875916This is what happens when poor innocent divers can't get their C-01s approved
There is no such thing as blonde, blue eyed white woman in SE, the only surviving specimen remains are locked behind maximum security bunker on eaglepolis
>>543875481https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEzte98sl9M
>>543875481
>>543876384I choose to believe that there's entire planets of ice-dweller aryans as well as entire planets of Zulu warriors because it's funny to me.
>>543876229Gas is really only good for making bugs confused. Fire can be good, but you basically have to be constantly backing away and spraying the ground.
Bugs are so shit. Just running backwards constantly
>>543876384That's it I'm diving into the stalker hole. I'm getting my fucking white girl one way or another.
Why cant joel just accept squids are a flop and balanced invasions around the 2% of people that actually play them?
>>543875481>>543876505
what do you do in this situation?
>>543877172find his pages I guess
>>543877172I always use beam weapons because I think it looks cool despite how underpowered they feel and how long they can be fired at once (too long)
Still no leak for the armour passive then?
>>543877172start masturbating
>>543876623>Helldivers after being fused with the consciousnesses of all previous Helldivers of their shipSuper Destroyers are armed flying monoliths I tell you.
>>543877692kek
>>543877771>Helldiver dies>Next one called in immediately knows exactly what the last guy was trying to do and replicates his exact actionsKinda weird if you ask me
>>543877692This pic was definitely made by a bufftroon. And a jeet.
>>543877920I remember that post. Would be better if she was more shelly like a normal terminid though.
>>543878086Yeah, well I didn't have any bug girl loras, so now she's a spider, so what?
>>543878157>so what?I just think it would look better :(
>>543875481Smug automaton catgirls
>dual invasions on bug frontGOD DAMNIT FUCK OFF
>>543873417on paper, 3-4 depending on distancein practice, it's like 8-12 ish because of the eye having a similar hitbox as the rocket strider rockets before arrowhead enlarged them
>>543878267True, I'll see what I can do.Also, that so what comment was me trying to make a reference to certain spider manga, so don't take it too personally.
>equip supply backpack>equip spear gun>use infinite ammo glitch>bugs die
d10 any (kinda want to do bots but if lobby decides otherwise we'll go elsewhere)steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243808369964/76561198027910192
>>543878157why not trace over a terminid and then overlay the spider version and trace her onto the terminid frame
Is everyone in this thread actually a shitskin? I thought it was just a joke...
>>543878576Have you noticed any crashes since the patch?
>>543878645idk, you tell me brown man
>>543878713Not really, I once got sudden process end crash but that's it. And I played maybe like 10h since patch. Game seems much more stable now.
>>543877934I like thinking that SE is using repurposed Great Eyes as a replacement for training individual Divers, neatly explains why cognitive disruptors only affect the codes and why monoliths explode Divers instead of turning them into Voteless, Destroyers' mind control is more focused than the Illuminate and the disruptors can only scramble the muscle memory of stratagems
>>543878576>>543878713shit I posted old lobby linkhere's newsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243818019170/76561198027910192
>>543878086Is this more to your liking?
>>5438788853/4
>sloppafags instantly start slopping all over the thread because there's a chance of (you)'sAn actual mental illness.
>>543878885FVLL
Did they nerf the supply backpack with spear gun? I thought it gave half ammo back but now it's only 3.
>>543878815Monoliths make voteless?
BUFF SHOTGUNSBUFF SOLO SILO (FOR REAL)BUFF HMGADD SPACE MISSIONSADD SKYBRIDGES AND TOWERS TO MEGACITIESADD FULL ILLUMINATE ROSTER AND MORE UNITSADD GAS GIANT PLANETSADD APCADD TANKADD BIKEADD ARMOR PAINTADD MISSING STRATAGEMSADD STRATAGEM CUSTOMIZATIONADD STRATAGEM LOADOUTSADD 12 PLAYER MISSIONSDELETE DURABLE DAMAGEDELETE ARMOR PEN SYSTEMDELETE GAMEGUARDDELETE DUPLICATE ASSETSDELETE JOELDELETE SCAMSDELETE INDIA
does anyone have that image of the dev shit posting on helldivers reddit?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243819657600/76561198126520852D10, Robots.
>patch supposed to save the game>abysmal player countIt's over
>team so retarded they stand and fight a million bug breaches in the middle of nowhere>so many bugs attacking my team I can walk into a mega nest and slowly destroy ever hole with zero spawnsfeels good
>>543880393The only thing that brings back huge playercounts is big content drops with flashy trailers.
>>5438801641/4.
>>543880393people realized that this big buff patch was full of lies and a straight up nerf to majority of the weaponsand they still haven't fixed any hard locking or crashing issues the balance changes are the most baffling, they completely ignored what people been asking about weapon changes, mostly just undoing the sway and other stealth nerfs, instead they need everything more while leaving previous nerfs intactI hope they go bankrupt unironically
>>543880393mother fucker ITS 5 AM IN THE MORNING
>>543880449I think that's by design
>>543881023If it wasnt ass oclock id have joined sorry bruv
>afraid to bring my Zapper loadout in /hdg/ lobbies because I don't want retards to sperg out every time they got zapped by my K9I wish you retards weren't so retarded so I can actually have fun without worrying about cooking your dumbasses
So is the new "acquire evidence" mission encouraging stealth? They changed the whole bot spotting and it seems like the warbond is also a bit more stealth oriented.
>>543879965This one?
>>543881671I bring K9 to pubs
war is hellmire
>>543880164WAIT FOR MEEEEEEE
>>543879751YOU ARE ON A PLANET WITH 50% RESUPPLIESREAD NIGGA READ
Can I reinstall the game now?
>>543883337mmm nyo, wait for the warbond/bot update
>>543881671hdgs are bros who dont care about that sort of thing, bring what you want gamer
>>543883337yes, but DISABLE MODS to avoid the game NOT BOOTING
>>543883538only sound mods are broken though, armors still work, reticle mod was already updated too
>>543883717better safe than sorrythere have been dozens of tech illiterate zoomzooms in the past few threads asking>wHy GaMe No BoOt?when anyone with half a brain would know it's because all the mods would be a patch behindthe fact armors and and reticles still work is something of a minor miracle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvSlzzXpZEQI dive to this
>>543878885ggs
It's actually over.
>>543878885GG
>>543882068thaaaaaanks, doesn't have what he said but I can track that down now.
>>543885226i will eat a raw egg (with shell) if this actually works and enemies don't immediately see you through the smoke once you land
PSA the de-escalator cannot hit the user no matter how you shoot it or how close you shoot it. Just aim it at the ground and shit explodes around you.Also the damage buff is pretty groovy.
>>543885226That's be pretty neat for hot drops into bases, IF it works
Is it normal for the roach fire to kill you before the particle effect reaches even halfway to the ground
>>543885226>Smoke armor theory might actually be realThe weirdest thing is that this is actually kind of valid. Like I could see myself using this all the time whenever resupply drops on bots. Especially with how long you're standing still reloading and stuff.Like absolute meme, but ironically more justifiable.
>>543885491smoke works breddy well all things considered still, there's a shitton of more fun ways to include smokeI'd have given GP or GL a smoke fire mode
>>543885535Tell me Ash, how are the other police warbond weapons after the patch. It's the only warbond I don't have yet (I wont buy the gaylo one)
big fan of the vent weakspotthe eyes feel very unreliable, it's probably for LC/railgun, definitely not the AMR.
>>543885957Oh yeah they're complete Dog Shit kid.I wouldn't bother with that warbond unless I was desperate for content. The uh, k-9 is pretty funny though. Just don't let sparky near the kids.
>>543885557>only useful once at the beginning of the mission to assault a base that only needs 1-2 lasers to take out hands-freeyawn
>>543885491>>543885557>>543885716Reminder that smoke is reactive deployable concealment meant for disengaging and losing aggro, not a magic invisibility field that you stand inside to proactively shoot at enemies with impunity. At absolute best, you deploy it, take a few potshots, then scamper off before it dissipates.
>>543886104yeah the eye is a trap.One less shot than vents.
>>543886157That's not very groovy. I guess I'll skip that trash and hope the sneaky fuckery warbond will be better. Thanks!
>>543885608yes, it's the main complaint about roaches, right ahead of the wings not being weakspots and roaches being identical to bile titans stat-wise despite flying around at 300 mph doing 5G turns
>>543886257>meant for disengaging and losing aggro>Placed in a static position making it harder to retrieve the equipment hidden in the smokeI'd disagree though, you were right about concealment. I'd say it's best used as cover to mitigate shots and try and disuade shots coming your way. Smoke nades actually pair really well with the quasar on bots. Just because it gives you enough time to charge up shots and aim.
>>543886257for me it's hiding in smoke while a bot drop comes in, turning the dropped units into a regular ass patrol that, with any luck, will go fuck off and despawn at the 175m radius spawn range limit
>>543886409I was having fun fighting it, I like the predictable fly->hover pattern. Thpigh it feels weird that I'm only play diff6 because I'm a little babby and they were spawning as fast as I was killing them, even after the nerf was meant to make them way less frequent.
>>543886502>Placed in a static position making it harder to retrieve the equipment hidden in the smokeI don't know what you mean by making it harder? The smoke keeps you hidden while you grab your gear and allows you to get away unseen with it
>Adjudicator and Dominator untouched>Tenderizer didn't get a flat damage increaseThey're doing another one of these patches soon, right?
>>543886756>I don't know what you mean by making it harder?You ever turn the lights off and try and pick up something. Same thing with smoke surrounding the resupply.
>>543886607you either got unlucky and got the roach seed (iirc the nerf simply made the roachspam seed less common compared to other seeds like shrieker spam), or their nerf didn't actually work
>>543886864Ah, I see. I mean, the gear is going to be in the center of the cloud, assuming the rack doesn't get hit and break
Bots and aliens are for pussies. Bugs are at least 5x harder than them.
>>543886889Oh okay. I thought it was a nerf to the spawn rate not the seed rate.
>>543887068S
>>543887068bugs aren't hard, cqc is the easiest part of the whole gameplay loopdo you even dive spam
physics status: Optimized™ for your demise
>>543885226This is going to be hillarious for cucking sentry users.Quick reminder that sentries have reduced engagement distance when inside smoke.
>>543887031Yeah probably not too bad, but I imagine people will get salty when they bring eats and need to find them every time lol
ACgods... we... lost...
>>543886607Just take the railcannon pill on dragon infested planet, they buffed the cooldown and from my experience they respawned every 2 to 4 minutes.
>>543887379Holy shit ...
>Fire-pod booster>Stun-pod booster>Smoke-pod booster coming nextWe just need one more to complete the set...
>>543887530Honestly?New rail cannon is pretty alright now. 2:20 isn't that bad. Usually have it up or just about up. Cooldown mod would make it unusable though.
>>543887729BRAP BOOSTER WHEN!?
>>543887729Arc-pod booster
>>543887729Laser bomb booster
>>543887729Spinning blade bomb booster
>>543887729Incredibly gassydivers to smellpodsrepeatincredibly gassydivers to smellpods
A new patch just dropped, and the thread is even more dead than before.
>>543888170It's a stealth nerf patch that's why
>>543888170it's the middle of the night for godmericans
did the optimizations break the game or not? haven't tried it yet
>>543877920>>543879192>somebody remembered my post>somebody decided it's an idea good enough to slop>>543878157>he doesn't know nakamura regura>he doesn't know SOLOPIPB>he doesn't know toumasuI refuse to believe solopipb wouldn't have a lora made on his works. The moth doujin is too popular for that.desu I didn't really think about the design of how she would look like but seaf-chan or any human would best work if they were sorta made like centaur but with stalker body, since it's the most upright one, and I think partially undeveloped wings would look nice if they fluttered reacting to her emotions kinda like dogs wagging tail
Why would we have to document evidence?
Idk if anyone posted the other stats yet, the superstore item is a weird blowdart gun?
>>543888621I hope you aren't seriously this retarded
>>543888621Man I'm mad they took a cool gun design and just turned it into an upgraded diligence.
>>543888621No, the superstore is a suppressed libcarbine. The gas dart gun is in the bond, it's even in the Warbond art.
>>543888621As if we didn't have enough light pen marksman rifle already
>>543888621
>>543883717Which one is the reticle mod?
>patch breaks sounds>cant play with my favorite mod (replaces arc with RA tesla sound)UNPLAYABLE
>>543888829https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/2388
>>543888801Would this work on things like tanks/hulks?
>>543887740It's 3 minutes, 2:42 with the 10% cooldown upgrade. Then you add on orbital fluctuations and it ends up as 3:22. Too damn long.
>>543885226Why choose this over vitality or stims?
>>543888621Third armor set
>>543885226Are there any leaks for the new armor?
>>543888784This. But then again a suppressed long range rifle sounds interesting. Thats basically the main way you use silenced shit
>>543888983See>>543887379Devious little guy.
Help, my game crashes as soon as I launch it. I suspect it might have something to do with some files I replaced when installing sc arrow mods a few updates ago. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>543888760where's the upgrade? the dmg and mag size are the same, aren't they?
>>543889004Damn... Drippy fucking warbond
>>543889004That's some serious drip though, so at least there's that
>>543888921anything you can normally gas, it's not a new status effect
>>543889156Silenced. Also less ammo than diligence iirc.
>elevated overseers easier to kill but nothing else touched>leviathans back but you dont have to fight them outside of cities, finally giving the environment some differenceSquidsex wonI cant beliebe they became my go to faction for fun
>>543889101disable mods and verify files, genius>>543889318but supps don't even work
Reminder to farm Oshaune while it's still available. Seeing as we're liberating it soon
>>543889328Gone for a month and the Justice poster won, I'm impressed
>>543889328Not the filename...Its so fucking over dude...>>543888783>silenced liberatorFor some reason this intrigues me
>>543889328YOU CANT C-----R JUSTICE
>>543889479
I need to see the armor so bad now.>>543889563Also looks like it'll get a drum mag.
>>543888621https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAm55c2AEgHere's the C4 is action. AP7 2000 Damage and Durable damageDemo strength 30Force strength 30Force impulse 40The backpack gets fully resupplied at pods, the little ammo boxes at POIs give you back 1 c4
>>543889529I'm gonna -i-- Justice with my --m and turn her into a ----y
>>543889563>80 damage
Your grenade, sir.
>>543889680Tiny ass radius too. Like HE grenade.
>>543889680>backpack AND support weapon slotFucking hell, why
>>543889720Libcarb is 90 now so either they haven't changed it or it's just 10 points tax for being suppressed.It's still a better gun than J*stice.
>>543888878
>>543889702Lick justice with your mom and turn her into a cunny?
>>543889680>stick these to my team mates and trigger them at random
This warbond would've been great to add a suppressed weapon like a vss/val that is an actual special purpose weapon with heavy fucking rounds
>>543889720I'm calling it in how they buff the halo SMG in the last patch. The piece of shit has less damage than pummeler despite the shitty utility it has.
>>543889760No fucking way.>5 usesThey better give you like 3 back.>Unironic stealth warbondJesus where's the invisibility gear and infrared.
>>543890140Thermal scopes would've been neat
>>543890057That's what I was thinking. I thought the suppressors were just cosmetic and didn't do anything
>euros>"harhar zis und you guiz!">burgers fully embrace it Never change
>>543890195Yeah with this much smoke I'm expecting something to see through it.
>>543890230fuuark thats pretty shmick
>Stealth black ops warbond>Still no NVGs
>>543890230WHATS THE PASSIVE THOalso needs a katana
>>543890279My burg brain forgot the image
>>543889004>>543890230>>543890398Calling it now. The stealth armors are going to have that "makes less noise" passive that the halo armors have.
>>543890498Mix of recon and that.
>>543889429I just did and now the game just closes itself upon launching now, the crash report screen no longer shows up
>>543890498Naw Infrared vision and you turn invisible in smoke
>>543890574>the crash report screen no longer shows upClearly the game is operating as intended. Now thank your Swedish Gods!
>>543890413Raiden?
>>543890398Boob pockets.. for holding lots of milky
>>543890683
>>543890230>>543890413>+200% melee bonus>Silent feet>-60% detection radius
>>543885226>>543885491>>543885557>>543887379It's gone in like a second btw.
>>543889680this is so ass>bp and supplier slot for a slightly more damaging thermite or dynamite
>>543889004That's just a Warlock with less color though.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9GskM9R8kINSUFFERABLE gameplay but there are some good stuff leaked
https://youtu.be/wZKr6Q5_lBwAll your questions answered here
>thordan with another clickbait
>>543890993based Thordan enjoyer
>most mid warbond imaginable>Best looking armor
>>543891186this nigga skipped leg day lololololololol
>>543888621>AP2>165 damage>25 durable>100% drag factor>20 rounds>6 spare magazines>semi-auto 400 RPMDOA. Justiceniggers on suicide watch. Swedes couldn't make it worse if they tried.
>>543891270Truth enforcers all over again
So far, the only thing looking good about this warbond is the fashion.Unless this warbond drops with a patch to make stealth worthwhile, it ain't looking good.
>>543890230>>543890398DAMN, these look awesome.
>>543890230>advent trooperlmao
I like the idea of sneaking into a bot base while taking out the turret troopers with a suppressed rifle, then placing C4 charges, then leaving and detonating, but I think it will be much more effective to stealth in and HELLBOMB ARMED, CLEAR THE AREA.
I bet 100$ the passive will be garbage
>see they fixed dragon spawns>Join game>There's 5 of them roaming the map
>pretend to buff guns>undocumented changes to durable damage and fire damage>effectively negates buffs entirely
>leaktranny can't stop xerself from ruining the surprise for everyone
>>543889680I could see them buffing this 6 months after it comes out, giving it 4000 damage and 40 demolition so it can kill titan holes.It wont be popular but people may bring it on bot blitz to kill heavy fabricators after the buff.
>eruptor makes dragonroach gigglegulp what do I do
>>543892126he cheated at 26:24 kek
>>543892509meant for >>543890932
>>543891914>ignore dragons>they pile uphmm, where have i seen this behaviour before?oh yeah. release bile titans.same shit different year
>>543892132Man I hate how accurate the timeline is. Really would take them half a year to get pressured into another buff patch
>enemies are attracted to shield relays>place relay down>rig the bubble with c4>ka-boooom.wav
>>543889680>Have to sort through clunky ass widget to switch between detonating and placing themEven Todd's game has proper detonation mechanic, this is just shameful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui9GskM9R8k>Stealth missionsSE actually trust divers to be stealthy>>543870401Why does optical camouflage look so kino no matter the game?
>throw C4 at bot fabs>teammate blow all of them up with eagle strafing runs>can't pick the C4s up>cucked beyond measureHow would you respond to this without sounding mad?
>>543892126I don't want anymore surprises from arrowhead, I'm disappointed with them enough as it is
>>543891914Had a bit of a giggle joining a Hellmire pub just earlier where not even 3 minutes had passed when I joined, only to see a Dragon dead in the evac zone on top of a crushed FRV. Like what the fuck happened in that time frame.
>>543867664Go outside
But heckdivers are le grunts? How come they are doing a commando mission?
>>543871773Your full team of orbital nape and 380??? Fuck boring eradication missions and their stand in one small area shit. Same for evac assets.
>>543887729500kg Pod booster
>buff patch>actually nerfs every weapon>reduced meatblob's HP.>increased its durable damage so it actually has around the same amount of HP unless you're using explosive weapons (which were ALREADY the meta)>gave SMG's a slight damage buff compared to AR's >but doubled the damage falloff>SMGs now have 2x the damage falloff of shotguns>and 4x the damage falloff they had at launchAlexis truly is the Michelangelo of the game design world, a true master of his craft.
>they are actually adding the camera mechanic everybody kept conceptualisinghttps://youtu.be/ui9GskM9R8k
>>543893862>nerfs every weaponExplain.
>>543893862>AlexisBut anon they said they were releasing two guys from the basement or something for this patch idk I forget the names
>>543893941Various enemies were given fire resistance and durable increase which has increased the breakpoints on most weapons. Even the SMGs (which were supposedly buffed) still take the same or even more shots to kill outside of 25m.
Is the notJustice automatic? 400 rpm is plenty
>>543894178Oh, so you're being a disingenuous dumbfuck.Carry on.
>>543894178So, it is truly one step forward two steps back with these sweden
>>543894320No, you're just a retard.
>>543889563>non-removable suppressorYou will NEVER get a suppressor attachment.
>>543894178Yeah because they are ment to be strong CQC weapons, they already sucked past 25m anyway because of sway and drag. Also SMGs are not "every weapon", retard.
d10 idksteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243832967818/76561198027910192
>>543894554Explain why smgs have more falloff than shotguns
>>543894554At no point did I say SMGs are every weapon dipshit, but every weapon that specifically did not get a durable damage increase (such as shotguns/med pen weapons) now take more shots to kill a variety of enemies. Take you're meds and get off the internet.
>>543894698Shotguns fire small pellets with little drag.SMGs fire fat bullets with loads of drag.
>>543892839you can press reload to detonate
>>543894357>OH NO! THEY OPTIMIZED THE STATUS EFFECTS BY TRUNCATING A FLOATING POINT WHICH CAUSED FIRE TO TAKE 0.5 SECONDS LONGER OR 1 BULLET TO APPLY FROM THE COYOTE! THEY ALSO MARGINALLY INCREASED THE DURABLE STAT ON 3 ENEMIES!>THAT MEANS THEY NERFED EVERY WEAPON!>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!This is you.You are an imbecile.
>>543892839Sorry but the consoles couldn't fit a dedicated explode button on the controller so now it's gotta be clunky as shit for everyone.
>>543894643fvll of NIGGERSand NIGGERS
>>543894951Your concession has been accepted.
C4 looks good to me. If you have any sneaking or mountain goating ability whatsoever you can put down C4 on most if not all fabs before blowing them up all in one go. No need to deal with them shooting back while you reload your RR and can just walk out of there. Being able to stay on the move is valuable. Dynamite plus C4 is sufficient explodey things for me.
>>543895254>ability whatsoever you can put down C4 on most if not all fabs before blowing them up all in one goi assume you mean in one area, and not going from fab location to fab location setting more.what i'm saying is i can't imagine they are going to let players place more than a certain amount? similar to how the seekers work
>>543894823Wouldn't that mean shotguns should have the least drag of all the ballistic weapons?
What is with the bugs on Terrek being fucking turbo charged & having 2 hit KOs? I tried one game and immediately trash tier enemies were hounding me I used up all my stims within 15 seconds just trying to run away in medium armor and it didn't work.
bros im literally retarded is verdict still the best pistol after these changes?
>>543895254>sneak around slowly attaching C4 to every building>when you can just destroy them all with a single Eagle
>>543894698AH decided it balances out their short range DPS. Seems like a fine way to make them different from ARs.>>543894784>>buff patch>>actually nerfs every weaponWhat is this then? Learn to write. Fleshmobs got their heckin weakspots everyone cried about, I don't see how this is a "nerf". Only thing I can see is Warriors being slightly buffed overall (fine they were weak as shit) and Devs getting torso or w/e durability buff (everyone is shooting them in the head anyway so it couldn't matter).
>>543895634Verdict is secretly the ungimped Halo pistol.
>>543895634Talon.
>>543893871>It's an ugly planet. A...bot planet?
Is expendable napalm better or worse on dragonroaches now with the wings health pool?
>>543895657New bot mission type coming with the warbond only allows super destroyer for one minute + an additional minute the first can call in one time for the entire mission so have fun with that
>>543895941this is gonna lose more players than this past patch drama lol
>>543895941Then why use something with only six uses? Literally any other explosive support weapon would be better.
>>543895634yeseveryone knows that biggest number = best gun
So is the C4 just dead on arrival? I don’t see how it would perform better than thermites + supply backpack since that’ll give you 8 thermites, not to mention ammo, stims, and leaves your support weapon slot free
>>543895941>call down GL or AC>destroy every fabs in the map + AA emplacement and Mortar emplacement in one go
>>543893612The devs are so schizo about this shit. They want them to be comically retarded, but at the same time so competent that they can flawlessly preform tactical reloads underpressure.
>>543896074This. I expect this to have some of the most spergy player interactions.I expect /hdg/ lobbys will say fuck it full loud straight away go fast now now now.
>>543895681You actually sound like you work for them. Making balance decisions based on vibes (we wanted it to feel like a close range weapon) instead of actually using it, testing how effective it is compared to the meta weapons and if there is a plausible reason you would ever use that weapon over one of the meta weapons is what they should be doing. Instead they're just taking a dimwit approach and throwing in random nerfs/hidden changes so they have more work to do in the future (at the players expense of course)
>>543867420oh shit that's right, its got demo force 40 nowshit that's actually pretty good if you didn't wanna just rely on hellpods
lobby doko?
>>543895941honestly it will be the BIG FILTER.red stratagem crutch users will cry an ocean.if you can't solo commando missions, you suck at the game
What's the best way to kill dragonroaches now?My team got bent over by 5 of themDon't think any of us had the right gear for them Wish sentries would help
>>543896628Tell your team to bring railcannon strike, all 3 of them
>>543896456I mean "SMG is a CQC weapon" is like the most basic way to go about balancing them in vidya. Also how it works IRL, it's just exaggerated here because it's a game.They should just remove the stupid sway nerf at this point because it makes no sense.
>>543896698I've seen that shit miss them with my own eyes
>>543896558>if you can't solo commando missions, you suck at the gameif the leak is any indication then soloing these missions will be even easier than normal ones
>>543895941There will be a single solo meta loadout for this mission that we'll figure out within the first hour stay litty /hdg/
>>543896940Quasa, laser dog, car + mech
>>543896904only throw them down then the roach are hovering, not while they're flying pass you or towards you
>>543893862...so a nothingburger?like they literally stated at the top of the patch notes that they wanted to rebalance light and med pen weapons with the durable damage changesother than that, it was definitionally a buff patch>annoying enemies got nerfed>ragdolling got nerfed>couple grenades got buffed>couple stratagems got buffed>melee got buffed
Oh look, all the "influencers" who got popped from the creator program and their toadies are making up literal bullshit and conflating misinformation again.Who'd have thunk it!?
>>543896558no stupid, they'll just stealf
>drop down>press Z>crawl around the map sniping shit with suppressed rifles and 1 tapping hulks with AMR>extractAh yes....the HARDEST faction
>>543896074>mgs styled infiltration/subsistence mission losing playersDoubt>>5438961486 c4 + 5 thermite/tnt x up to 4 divers = can tag every sized outpost including objectives and detonate without firing a gun 150m away. They're probably balancing it around that, the aforementioned new mission type, and servo assisted.
Damage control working overtime here.
>>543897579It's Putin's bots.
>>543897549>holds W>winBugs are easier.
>>543897704>making shit up
>>543897549>not going loudwhat are you, pussy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTuya0p_xHIArrowhead are a bunch of slimy faggots. There's been stealth nerfs and so-called buffs to durable damage were actually inconsequential because of enemies receiving durability buffs that overdo the damage buffs.Fleshmobs also had their durabilities DOUBLED, so guess what. Anything that isn't explosive is still bad at killing them.
>>543897579Your high school diploma is written in Hindi.
>>543893612I'm not even sure where the grunt meme came from, helldivers are in universe special forces who act like space pathfinders/paratroopers(with a similar casualty rate).
>>543896539robby kokosteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243836344378
>>543898523>k***htOh, you can't afford it? Skilled labor issue.
>>543898628ill join in 5 mininb4 full
Did the patch make the warrant good now? I was using it on super helldives yesterday, and it's hitting most the shots. I thought having gravity lowered would help it, but didn't expect it to feel this good. I know drag affects damage fall off number calculations, but does drag also affect how the bullet projectile actually travels through the air? Maybe the guided mode just couldn't calculate with gravity and bullet drag before the patch?
>>543898605It's all a mute point since the story is a comedy, but maybe it comes from how comically bad the elite training is and how retarded Helldivers are, although their retardation is talked up to just be incomprehesible strategic intelligence.
>>543899131>muteyou mean m00t point
>>5438986283/4
>>543899000They reduced "gravity multiplier" - that is bullet drop - from "1" to "0.3" whatever that means. idk why a rocket propelled projectile would even have it at all and how it works but still
>>543899268Please I cannot use words good I am a Helldiver
>>543899000Easily the best squid sidearm now that elevated overseers have less health than watchers
>>543898628get in this lobby you fucks
>>543899268What does the incredibly sexually attractive creator of 4chan have to do with it.
>>543899375 meI guess it makes sense that it would drop off regardless, but the guiding system had to counteract it constantly and now it's less of a factor. Maybe it's that
>>543899131>>543898605>>543896376Did the actual devs ever say you're supposed to be playing a lowly grunt? i.e. not some ''''COMMUNITY MANAGER"" on discord that doesn't have any creative control and just spouts retarded shit?Without even caring about he said/she said, you play as a soldier who can literally run for a solid 40 minutes while sprinting in bursts inbetween while carrying weapons and ammo with knowledge and ability to operate like over 50 different weapons and stratagem equipment. Your soldier also performs calm while being overwhelmed. Sounds pretty damn elite to me. Especially so when I'm getting like 500+ kills on a diff10 with like 1 death.
>>5438986283/4Could YOU be the last?
pls..dragon roach tips air burst?laser?
>>543866295Anon, Justice wasn't just a FAL copy, it was full auto juiced up 8mm AP that pierced everything that wasn't tank-armoured and shredded things like a pocket railgun on steroids. As in, went through the skull of one cyborg and exited through the skull of the 3 other ones behind them while dealing massive damage.It's a travesty if it's made into a fucking silenced peashooter.
>>543889004>actually using the helldivers color schemefinally
>>543899375Yeah I know the gravity multiplier was decreased and that definitely helped, I was more wondering if the drag actually ALSO affects the projectile which also could have helped with the guidence mode. As I said, I know drag affect actual number calculations for damage, but I more wondered if drag also affects the projectile (i.e. the drag through the air causes it to slow down). Now that it has no drag, that could also be affecting guidance mode calculation.
>>543898628dead thread, fvll with a randombvll
>>543900080shoot it until it dies
>>543900080Shoot the wings, it's the actual weakpoint now, anything works, they just have 2k HP.
>>543900147IIRC drag is responsible for actual velocity loss of projectile, which is why it's responsible for damage fall off too as slower projectiles do less damage. So maybe it has easier time hitting shots with constant velocity.
>>543900080Orbital Railcannon after its divebomb when it's hovering
>>543900080AC Flak!
>>543888801>causticSo is this thing acid or gas?
>>543899921>Did the actual devs ever say you're supposed to be playing a lowly grunt? i.e. not some ''''COMMUNITY MANAGER"" on discord that doesn't have any creative control and just spouts retarded shit?Why the fuck would they do that when they could laugh at all the retards along with us that fall for propaganda in real life as they expose themselves online for either not understanding the concept or falling for fictionalized propaganda? Coincidentally, India was the last place on earth with a widespread belief that professional wrestling was real.
fucking balls man fire feels weaker than ever. Why do the devs hate fire so much?
>>543900935I don't know what you're talking. I'm just saying I see people say "LOL YOU ONLY PLAY AS A GRUNT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT" quite a bunch. But it doesn't seem to match up with the game I'm playing. Like it's almost more like a self own at this point because if you're a shitty grunt that just dies all the time, that's literally a skill issue.
>>543901092You need that ship upgrade that increases fire damage just to get it to feel normal.
D10 Moon bugssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243840021565/76561197999417031
>>543894643ggs brossorry had to leave early
>>543901303ggs bro
>>543901243brother I've had every ship upgrade there is forever now... fire damage is just fucking pathetic. Rip flamer guns
>>543901191>>543900935The only difference nowadays between special forces and grunts is the gear they can bring and their personal skill. If you're good with a gun, can weave through the field without getting killed and can call in artillery more accurately than the average grunt, you're not a grunt.If you believe yourself to be a grunt, you are. If you are not, then you already have won half the battle, the other half is pure violence.
>>543901298j-j-j-join pls
>>543901520This isn't true at all. What the fuck? Just look up the exam qualifications for something like being a ranger or something. That's not even tier-1. Maybe the special forces in your country are no different than grunts?
>>543894643GGs
>>543901456As far as the patchnotes state, only the fleshmob was buffed in terms of fire resistance.
>>543900253So a machine gun will do the trick then?
>>543894643GG
>>5439012982/4
>>543901945false, medium bugs and devastators were all buffed to take longer to get set on fire
>>543901945I think you need to read the notes again. Try using control F this time
>4 enemies are now a little harder to set on fire in a literal ocean of buffs>WOW GAME IS RUINED!!!
>>5439012983/4
>>543902345most of the buffs are offset by enemy durability buffs
>>543902345>buffslol he falls for swedens methods again
>>543902395>>543902506>dragon roaches, fleshmobs, and war striders are literally easier than ever>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO SWIGGERS TRICKED ME!!!!
>>543899000I used to run it constantly on release, and honestly I think it will never be good as long as the manual aim mode isn't buffed.The whole point of an AP3 sidearm is to be able to punch through armor on weak points, but the auto-aim feature doesn't allow you to target those weak points. Worse still, its total damage per mag is utter dogshit, so as a backup weapon it isn't even reliable. And the auto-aim becomes a hindrance at close range since the tracking isn't tight enough to hit targets at point blank without manually putting your crosshair directly over the target (which completely defeats the point of the auto-aim).And worst of all, as I said earlier, the manual aim mode is trash. The rounds are still slow as fuck, so you'll only ever land shots if you aim center mass at a large stationary target at very close range. If they're moving laterally at any speed, you will miss.
>>543901298fvll
>>543902345>ocean of buffs>+5 damagenigga really fell for the same trick they pulled on EoF
How's the AC buff
>>543901191Larger issue with the ludonarrative dissonance of the game. One that its inspiration delt with as well. They can portray them as stupid all they want but in game you are able to actually win against insane odds and relative competence.
>>543902791S tier before S tier after. Can be felt if you want to fight chargers and BTs with APHET but I always prefered shooting flesh in flak mode anyway.
>>543902720>The whole point of an AP3 sidearm is to be able to punch through armor on weak points, but the auto-aim feature doesn't allow you to target those weak points.It targets the weak on a lot of bugs. I was tearing up diff 10s with it last night, so even i the senator is still my favorite I don't see how you can say its utter dogshit. Maybe a skill issue on your part?
Warbond hinges on the inclusion of active camo. We already have perfect smoke items and stealthy guns, so if the warbond is just more silenced guns + 420blazeit booster + C4 + yet another half-superfluous armor perk I will consider the stealthdiver crowd betrayed. Beware your next steps carefully, snow sucker scum.
>>543902791breddy insane imo but only tested it on bots so far
>>543903127>accusations of skill issue on an auto-aim weapon
>>543903331Yeah I know. It's hard to imagine how bad you are at video games to think that weapon is "utter dogshit." Like I get it's not the best secondary, but utter dogshit? Definite skill issue. Or maybe you only speak in hyperbole and are just a dramatic kind of person?
>>543903158>Warbond hinges on the inclusion of a sigificantly complicated thing to do>on a game made by swiggerslollmao even
>>543903480>of a sigificantly complicated thing to doBugs can do it.
>"Including or not including diver scum violence?"
So what happens when we liberate Oshaune?
>>543903535oh yeah forgot stalkers were a thing, haven't played bugs in a whilestill i wouldn't trust swedes to be able to copy paste the mechanic on us without destroying half the game
>>543903726Back to Hellmire again
>>543903103did they buff flak too or just APHET?
>>543903726Onto the next hive world, remember Oshuane is at the boarder.
How is the Epoch with the buffs?
>>543903824Only APHET I think.
>>543903726Next stop is Omicron Persei 8.
What's the point of being so dishonest with the balance changes?
Have you guys experienced any freezes or hard crashes ever since the update? I haven't gotten the chance to boot up yet
>>543903985gay
>log on>join mission>freeze within 4 minsyeah ill play after the patch
>>543902693Three poorly designed enemies finally get to work as they always should have.This is no more than their obligation.
>>543904175appeasing the masses while sticking to their (dogshit) vision of the gamealso a bit of the live service aspect where people look forward for the next weeks when the game saving patch drops (9th time is the charm)
>>543904175Hoping to placate the playerbase when you don't actually want to buff anything but are forced to by review bombing
>>543904252yes to both. nothing in the update addressed the issues that were causing people to freeze, lock, or crash
>>543902791APHE mode kills BTs with 5 shots to the face now.
>>543904252I get stuttering, audio issues, no hardlocks yet like previously, and I crash on geo survey missions 100% of the time.
>>543904678Why can't game devs accept that they are running a business and not drawing the Mona Lisa?
>>543904539But this IS post-patch!
>>543890230this looks like ass and everyone has shit tasteit's the walter helmet but even lower poly, on a generic destiny armor
>>543904952seriously?
Flame needs to stagger. Everything else in the conversation about flames is noise.
>>543871773Why not sounds cool.
>>543903331>doesnt know about unguided modeYoure just mad you don't have the gun, huh?
>>543905280I think something like flame working like weaker gas (mostly fucking with enemy path finding) would be cool and a-ok if fire primaries didn't exist or their fire effect was massively harder to apply.
>>543903480I have zero hope. Just felt like stating the conditions for (however unlikely) success.
Fellas is the knight damage as insane as it looks now?
>>543875481>pornslop repliesKill yourselves. Someone do one but he’s thinking about the Ultimatium.
>>543905582I think a slowdown would be fine, that would make fire more useful without encroaching on gas' territory.
>autocannon buffedEmancipator too?
>>543905813but being set on fire makes you panic and run around so this makes no sense
>>543888621>>543888801>>543889563>cannot edit
The new bot stuff is super fun I hope these retards don't take 2 months to release it
>>543904175auto bump the thread
>>543905424Or, you could read the reply chain, you fucking idiot.
>>543906006hownew.ruWeapons could NEVER be customized prior to official release.
I give upI just can't properly do the coinslot on warstrider with railgun
>>543905754The knight and that killzone SMG have always been the two best one-handers primariesjust for their high RPM which translates to a crazy DPS compared to the defender. Like fleshmobs pre-patch you could just mag dump 2 magainze into them extremely quickly with either of those two, but the defender takes FOREVER to mag dump so it just never was as good.
>>543903480That's not complicated, it's just shader and giving you the buff from stealth armors but stronger.
>>543887068On the hive world or predators yeah but these regular hellmire bugs are a piece of piss.
>>543906107I don't read, I just farm for engagement.
>>5439012983/4 again
>>5439012983/4, need to take a break to do some stuff
>>543905280Light & medium units staggering at the beginning of the "set on fire" status would be nice
>>543905280No it just needs to deal exponential damage to enemies already on fire or something. It's basically a febreeze launcher at this point
we need an ulti primary so I can pistol more. Like an RPG with 2 rounds or something
>>543906865Nah, a pouncer shouldn't be able to light on fire then immediately jump on your face like nothing happened.
>>543907215Faggot.
>the MO is being lost because lol moon bugsWonder how long it will take people to realize.
>>543907215An anti-tank primary is missing. An RPG with 2 shots sounds a little too crazy, though. But an anti-tank primary would make something like the stalwart actually good on higher diff
>>543907375TK Storm is coming up though, so it's all good.
>>543907408Bro, just use the Ultimatum...
>>543907597The point was more about using pistols more.Here's a thought: armor passive that lets you equip two secondaries (senator and ultimatum)
>>543905012tweak your settings, jfc
>>543907859NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED TO HAVE PATHTRACING, RAYTRACING AND GAYTRACING ON ALL MY GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>543907408in what world is a RPG with only 2 shots that replaces a real primary somehow "too crazy"
>missile turret crashes game when it firesOUGH OUGH OUGH OUGH OUGH OUGH OUGH
>>543908206I guess I'm imagining carrying an EAT that you can reload, always spawn with, and you can easily find ammo everywhere for it (bonus crazy if you bring in supply backpack). The ultimatum at least doesn't have the range of an RPG even with the weapon-switch glitch to make it shoot further. Basically sounds a primary RPG would just make the EAT useless.
>>543906006>>543906123It's because hes cheating it in to look at it man
>>543908645One destroyed my mech recently so I support this fuck this junk
haven't played since the coyote got added, how's the patch?
>>543908975Major bufftroon victory as far as War Strider and AMR goesInteresting changes otherwise, even if a little unnecessary for the most part
>>543907408HEDP AP5 low range meh damage single shot grenade launcher with a bunch of ammo in reserve.
Terminid combat music is tranny-coded.No, I will not elaborate.
>>543908787EAT is already useless because you can get a Recoilless Rifle with 7 shots or the Epoch or the Quasar Cannon
>>543890932Watching this clown play for just 5 minutes pissed me off. He's so trash at the game. I didn't even know it was possible to miss so many shots so many fucking times in a row and still be retarded about it and keep doing it without adjusting for trajectory. He genuinely doesn't understand how to shot or when to engage and how. Plays with a stealth gimmick, then still decides to take losing fights, that mind you could be won, he's just terrible at shooting and spacing enemies and using grenades.God, why do leakers have to be all so trash at the game?
>we only fixed about five bugs but we made the epoch so overpowered that it trivializes everything it's slot in a totally-not pay-to-win fashion :3cJust when I thought Arrowhead couldn't be any more repulsive they go and totally redeem themselves.
>>543909552k
No more fire primariesNo more explosive primariesBoth were a mistake. Put that bitch in support slot
>>543909174m79 is one of my favorite weapons of all time (my go to in Rising Storm 2). I'd hate to see it implemented with low range. If you learn how to use it's sight system you can be pretty effective even out to like 100m with it. One of my biggest complaints of the regular stratagem GL is that it has a regular holo sight that is completely useless for a grenade launcher.
>>543906165I know but now the knight does more than double the defenders DPS so I was wondering if people have tried it out. KZ SMG is 400 DPS less and feels insane.
>>543909552Is this the Rumbler all over again?
>>543905754These are old numbers, it's 90 damage now. Steeper fall off though so you most feel it at short range.
>>543909650How's those constant crashes and disconnects? :)
>>543909785not even close nerftroon
d10 rehosting moon boogssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243848541986/76561198027910192
>"Please make thing good!">Arrowhead makes thing good>Everyone here:>(Now theyre mad thing is good)
>>543910001Works on my machine. Uninstall your "QoL" (cheat) mods.
>>543910175they still suck it's just trolls who don't play the game complaining. light pen is still useless on d10 where almost every enemy has medium armour
>>543910096FVLL
So from what I've seen so far, the new Justice aka "Censor" is basically a silenced Diligence on crack that can 1 tap devs?
>>543910175>"Please fix the bugs!">Arrowhead jangles buff keys in everyone's faces>bugs stay>stupid retards are happy though JINGLE JANGLE MOTHER FUCKERSEE YOU IN THE NEXT CONTENT DROUGHT WHEN WE ALL BITCH ABOUT THE BUGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME FOR OVER A YEAR
patch is midsw*doids have to go back
>>543910464Works on my machine.
>MO is to capture planets so hellmire stops getting invaded>capture both planets>hellmire still invaded
>>543909390Epoch wasn't good until now. QC you have to wait like 20 seconds between two shots and you have to charge it each time, and sometimes you just want to dump 2 eats into a BT back to back. I still don't really like the EAT that much, though, but you might as well get rid of it if you make a two shot RPG primary.Also a 2 shot RPG primary with a supply pack (2 rockets plus 4 restocks) would mean you effectively have more rockets than a recoilless (1 rocket plus 6 on your back). PLUS with a supply pack you get to restock grenades, support weapon, and secondary. It would be crazy overpowered. I think an anti tank primary could open up other load outs, but that just sounds like too much.
>LE PATCH IS............ LE BROKEEEEEEEN!!!">Look inside>500 gooner and "QoL" (Blatant cheat mods)>Over half of them are for a version of the game from a year agoTale as old as time.
>>543910414Isn't it subsonic? That means muzzle velocity far worse and so it will be worse at long range.
What even is the point of the ODST warbond now that we have a new warbond that just takes its gimmick but is actually good?
>>543888621>>>>superstore itemWait I just woke up to get ready for work should I be hopping on Helldivers first or is this just leakshit? Is there new shit or no?
>>543910875nostalgia
>>543910875Halo.
>>543910779dumb ideaalso one tapping BTs with EAT is very easy, their heads are the size of medicine balls. I miss about one in 20 EAT BT shots and I'm a brain fogged slop stoner. Use FPV. It works.
>Its another "Shoot bullets: The Gun" warbond weaponyawn
>>543910875The ODST armor reduces the sound your steps make which I guess is a thing but the real perk is being immune to leg injury, not some meme stealth shit.
>>543910893leak
>>5439108754 good weapons.
>>543910713>people going for moonkino instead>might finally let this shithole get taken away>eagle storm conveniently ready before the end of the defense
>>543910893its the pistol from judge dredd
>>543911123>>543911207o7
>>543909654More fire primaries.More poison primaries.More explosive primaries.They're fun and work perfectly alongside the Stalwart.
Stalwart should be a primary
>>543911049The new warbond's passive also silences your steps
>>543907859>>543908087literally a console
>>543910175>"makes thing good">check patch notes>undocumented nerfs to counter balance everything
>>543911369what did they do to make fleshmobs non-nerfed?
>>543911156You mean 4 "sidegrade" weapons that are outclassed by existing weapons anyways
>>543910175it's always funny to see retards like you defending getting played by swedes lol
railgun should be a primary
>>543905280They need to shoot actual napalm instead of just raw gasoline, you can tell it's the latter now because they all have an upward-curving blooming fireball when they shoot, like the tf2 pyro. Real flamethrowers are like a fire hose, the napalm has the fluid stick together in bigger chunks that deliver a more concentrated stream of fire that projects MUCH further. Maybe make it a backpack strat heavy flamethrower that also has punishing recoil.
>>543911519No.
>>543911362well, there's your fucking problem
>>543911572it was in HD1 wasn't it?
What are we getting for Sharterty Day
>zero complaints from bugstompers about the enemy nerfs>zero complaints from squidfuckers about the enemy nerfs>only bot troons crying that bunkers and striders can't knock them off their feet by shooting in their general directionfunny that
>>543911751VarietyGODS enjoy every faction providing a challenge and bots keep getting the bufftroon hammer the most.
>>543911729capes
This is an underrated little weapon right here. I can’t justify bringing it over the Ultinatium myself, but when I was leveling the flamethrower primary I needed a sidearm with more ammo so I popped the dagger on and it fucks. I ended up using the laser Guard Dog and I was torching fleshmobs and overseers in seconds with the dual beam from the dagger and dog (prepatch). But the niche of the dagger (and scythe) i realized is being able to inflict fire from great distances.Except now they just made a bunch of enemies less susceptible to fire AND nerfed one-handed weapons.Did the dagger get hit with the one-handed weapon nerf or is what it does not affected by the bullet drop off crap?
>>543912148The dagger isn't mentioned at all in the patch notes. There were 4 enemies that are made harder to set on fire, so it would be affected by that.
When the game launched, I'd play as a leandiver and die over and over again. I'd fap furiously imagining my character being raped. Now I an average die 0.5 times on D10 after 2 hours. It's fucking ZZZ. The fuck is going on?
>>543912625oh, ok
Can I do this? Or do I look like some sort of gay super hero?
>>543912148Which grenade are you so married to that you can't just sub some thermites for an ultimatum? Yes, a single ultimatum shot is better than a single thermite but therms still give you good AT on your base loadout if you wanted to bring in a senator or dagger or whatever.
>>543912849The helmet is too small
>>543753562>competitorAnon never explained what the fuck he meant by this. I'm convinced there are bots in these threads right now, they could reply to you next!
You now remember Ale- I mean anons trying to shill smoke gems and nades when Leviathans were added
>>543912849light armor leandiver helmet sadly.
>>543911572AMR should be a primaryStalwart should be a primaryArc thrower should be a primary
AC flak rapes dragonroaches now...
>>543912963>>543913334As I thought, a failure. Oh well. Helldivers 2: The Quest for Fashion, continues.
Lobby doko
>only friend that still regularly plays has been playing since release>only ever runs quasar, jumpack, 500kg, and napalm orbital with the +5 reinforcement budget increase. >literally refuses to ever use anything else or even bring in any other boosterIt's so tiring. We never even hit the reinforcement budget, at least change that out to stamina or something. He refuses to stay in a place and fight, just jet packs away and leaves everyone as soon as shit hits the fan.How many of you fags are like this?
New stealth themed warbond and brand new game modes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZKr6Q5_lBw
>>543913705an ad you must buy
>consoledivers allegedly outnumber pcdivers 3:1Am I reading this graph right?
>>543912625average nerftranny actually
>>543913837>Am I reading this graph right?no
>>543913837Are you okay, retard?
>>543913639You're a paratrooper squad, you're not supposed to stand your ground unless you deploy heavy armaments which he is not, it's completely fine for him to play this way.
>>543913837LOL
>>543913837yes that's correct
>>543913837You can find the total number on the upper left of the map screen. Then, substract the steam charts number to get the console active player count.
>>543914024Paratroopers? Silly anon this is the Helldivers thread, not the Enlisted thread.
>>543913837no, out of 18 million only a small smidge percentage are xbox players, round 25% is playstation and the rest is steam.
>>543914024It's completely fine in that me and other's cover his slack, yes.>You're a paratrooper squad, you're not supposed to stand your ground unlessWhere do you faggots get this shit? Paratroopers definitively are supposed to hold their ground in real life, what do you think the Battle of the Bulge was about? Reminds how earlier someone said there's no difference in modern military between special forces and grunts. Like how are you faggots so confident about being so wrong?
Are you super niggers actually shilling that sloptuber now? Good god this place is in shambles. Can the general get deleted than remade when the game isn't shit anymore, would also reset all these jeet bots in the threads. I come with solutions.
>*Crashes into your jammer at mach 20 and explodes*
solo silo status?
>>543913705New 'dan
>>543914454jorkin it
nobody cares about ohjew, its just him samefagging and reposting his own trash over and over like the average redditor namefag
>>543914627Based 'dan =/= ohjew. He is /ourguy/
>>543912934My usual loadout is >Ultimatum>Thermite>Supply packAnd the thing is yeah the dagger would be awesome except I can destroy 40 voteless with a single ultimatum blast instead of having to singe them all to death with the dagger why beam an overseer with the dagger when you can just blast 7 of them at once with the ultimatum My main sidearm was always the senator because it was the strongest one, now it’s the ultimatum. Same with grenades. Thermite is the strongest one.I just couldn’t rely on the flamethrower as my primary with the ultimatum as my sidearm, not enough ammo and not enough rangebut like I said ditching the pack for the dagger and dog was fun, sucks that overseers take longer to set on fire but the dagger can also set harvesters on fire too, just raze them in the eye area and they combust. Harvesters didn’t get hit with the fire tweak did they? I don’t remember seeing them on there
>>543914454From meme to goat.
>>543914408>*Crashes into her asshole at mach 20 and explodes*
>>543913837based retard
>>543914454>isn’t aggro’d by enemies and got a big durability buff yeah that thing is good now
So we have>Censored justice>Poison dart gun>c4 backpack>impact smoke (lol)>superstore Suppressed ar>smoke pod boosterKinda mid ngl but the armor is drippy
>>543915382I’m interested in that dart gun. We’ll see what it does.
>>543914894I feel some players get loadout blind. Like sure you can get 40 voteless kills with an ultimatum, but that's an outlier of what you're normally getting with it. Normally you're probably getting like 10 to 20 voteless and the ultimatum is absolute over kill for that and there's no illuminate that you need AT for so you can eaisly justify bringing in something else for the illuminate.
>>543915382>impact smokeBesides the tacticool B-01 this interests me the most. It's like a cartoonish ninja smoke bomb you throw at your feet to disappear the second you are spotted lol
>>543914408What even is this character supposed to be? An automaton robot designed to look like anime but dressed as a Helldiver?
>Still no rep-80
I'm going to say it outright. Difficulties should have enemy HP scaling.When the highest difficulty in the game can be won by 4 trannies running around with AMRs or Eruptors one-tapping everything, each of them solo, the game is no longer a game, it's an interactable cutscene.The biggest enemy you should be able to solo is a Hulk, and that is with DEDICATED equipment such as an RR or 500kg. But tanks? War striders? Factory striders? That SHOULD require coordinated team effort and focus fire and at least a death or two to take them down. You should be a squad of soldiers, not a bunch of Marvelslop capeshit heroes.Think about it. Literally every other 4 player co-op game features HP scaling. It's time for Helldivers to follow their example.
>>543913837
>>543915854this is your min as a nerftranny
>>543915854Youre right! Lets follow Darkti--ACK
>>543915661>the armour passive gives you active camouflage + silenced movement when entering smoke
>>543915696An avatarposter's AI slop waifu.
>>543915854HP scaling is for faggots that cant make a game so they pad the time spent in the game with this innane shit. the moment they include this game dies simple as that
>>543916187AGP self insert more like.
>>543916187It's actually a tranny's self-insert.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243853547993/76561198065475540lobby d10 bots
>join bug sos>dragonroach flying in the sky>0 reinforcements left
>>543915382Chem pistol is gonna be the breakout thing from the warbond outside of the drip.
>>543916505uhmmm you're aryan cannon?
>>543915636I’m not arguing against you, you’re right. Truth is (blog post) I’m leveling all the guns in the game and I’m just about done, only Halt and Blitzer left, just finished the variable.So throughout leveling all the weps in the game I just brought the pack/ultimatum/thermite because you can deal with anything with those three and you don’t have to worry about your primaryWhat I really want to do is shelve the ultimatum and base my loadout around whatever primary weapon I feel like using now that all my guns are maxed and I’m not wasting XP doing missions when I have other guns to level. So everything at max I can go back to using whatever I want, hooking all this back around to your point yeah I want to use different loadouts but leveling all these meme weps I’ve just fallen back on ol’ reliable to blast everything away in sight.tl;dr after max out all my guns I’m going to shelve the ultimatum and main the constitution or maybe the amendment, thing is I have to remap my controls for that since I don’t like spamming the normal button I use for melee
>>543916494fvll
>they're literally adding satchel charges according to the leaksMy dick cannot get any harder. I don't care that it takes up the backpack and support weapon slot, I'm carrying that thing everywhere I go.
>>543916875They seem kinda weak, for now. Here's hope they'll buff them
>>543772486>I'm convinced that someone on the balance team hates the S&P with a burning passion justThe eternal Serb.
What if escort scientists returned?
hows the punisher compared to purifier now?
>>543903726>Wife Diver.pngdid you draw that
>>543917735What do those wildly different weapons have to do with each other?
>>543917903He's referring to the Punisher Plasma, since it just got changed.
>>543916505How good are you at tossing thermite?
>>543917565Like in HD1? Would probably just end the same with people killing them just to not deal with the objective and get out faster.
>>543917903Im basically asking which gun has the better explosive shot.
>>543916875It can still kill a fab without going in the vent since it's anti-tank. Maybe it's not as bad as I think it'll be.
>>543916875I haven't seen the leak, but the C4 charges were great in HD1
>>543918089>>543918537I thought it just got a damage buff, is there anything else different about it?But both of those are very different too. You can one-tap a shield devastator with the charged purifier, but you can also spam a few shots with the plas and grease one too. For either of those I think it would depend on the rest of your loadout or what you’re trying to achieve.I guess to answer your question the purifier has a stronger concentrated blast but the plas has a wider blast radius e.g. fire the plas at the feet of a voteless pack and scatter them all, and while the purifier is stronger it couldn’t do that as well if at all
>drop into Hellmire mission in-progress>bugs immediately on me no matter where I drop in>two dragon roaches butchering the team>no one else on the team is able to properly deal with them>constantly calling in reinforcements>next mission>same thing>rinse and repeatI don't know why I keep doing this to myself. Why is it always Hellmire?
>>543918925They removed its impact damage that you never ever hit with since it has a proxy trigger and gave it to the AoE, so effective damage went from 150 to 250. Which safe to say is a pretty huge buff.
>>543898605>>543899921>I'm not even sure where the grunt meme came from>Did the actual devs ever say you're supposed to be playing a lowly grunt?https://youtu.be/CVItevGgOnE?t=17090>... and this then turned into our original vision for helldivers, which is that we wanted to do as realistic of a take on what it would be to be one of those squads of stormtroopers or starship troopers mobile infantry or whatever pop culture grunts that you can imagine.
>>543919426The thing about Arrowhead is theyre so delusional they think thats why people play Helldivers. People dont want a grunt fantasy. Battlefield offers a better grunt fantasy than Helldivers. Helldivers are Commandos. And thats clearly the fantasy people want.And the game honestly blew up because it was the most "not Starship Troopers" game that wasnt dogshit.
>>543919426>AH want to make cringe>fucks up and accidentally makes kino>millions of players love it>flustered "MUH VISION" devs try to make the game cringe again>players groan and drop off>sony and community whips AH into shape>kino is now making a comeback
>halo pistol still can't one tap devs>"suppressed weapons" still aren't stealthis it doomed to forever be a worse peacemaker?
>>543919697Grunthead struggles to accept that I and many others enjoy the game because spreading democracy with overpowered weapons is fun.
>>543919426Based!>>543919697Battlefield doesn't offer any 'fantasy', you run around in a box killing each other and respawning until the round ends.
>>543919189>Why is it always Hellmire?This planet is cursed. I joined an SOS and ALL of the reinforcements were gone with only 30 minutes left on the clock. Felt like I was in the ending of Halo Reach with weapons scattered everywhere from atleast multiple people who joined, saw what was happening, and died/left.
>>543919426If they want me to be tactical, then why did they take away my ability to climb tall rocks and throw turrets on tall rocks? Why did they not focus harder into stealth early on?
>>543920158Go play Assassins's Sneed if you want stealth
>>543920167>devs own words and intentions vs marketingslop from the back of the boxdont care
>>543920173Its a better grunt fantasy because youre one faceless guy among a bunch of other faceless guys shooting a bunch of other faceless guys.When people think "grunt" they usually think of some Average Joe on the frontlines. Thats what battlefield offers.
>>543920158Hopefully the warbond being suppressed guns and commando missions being focused on high-speed low-drag oper8ing means they'll actually do something soon.
>>543920279Helldivers 2 is a tactical shooter, stealth needs to be a part of it by genre definition alone
>>543919189>Why is it always Hellmire?Because we had nostalgia for fire tornadoes when we were told to pick a planet, not knowing it'll become the place we'll have to go through a defense campaign every other god damned day.
>try localization confusion booster>enemy patrols actually increase their spawn rate instead of decrease
Why did they not buff the flag?
>>543919697I think it's a problem of wanting a grunt fantasy then making the gameplay pure special forces work. The SEAF are the grunts who are fighting on the planetary fronts while the helldivers go behind enemy lines and make sure the SEAF can actually win. A true grunt fantasy game would be more akin to star wars battlefront.
>>543920431>the devs are always right unless they make changes that I personally don't approve ofdon't care
>>543920552>have tobut you don'tyou're free to ignore the galactic war, in fact that's what you're supposed to do once you're done grinding medals
>>543920571What is that thing or the radar booster even supposed to do? You already get red dots on the map if enemies are aggro’d to you.
>>543919426>>543920167>>543920431More like these things go through iterations. Sure, the original """hypothesis""" you were a useless grunt, but they probably quickly realized that playing as a stormtrooper that always misses and gets killed isn't actually fun. That one old video about their first ideas of the game doesn't lock them into it.
>>543919189Hellmire has always been the retard magnet for some godforsaken reason. Even before it got gloomed and was just a generic fire tornado shit hole it drew bugfuckers to it like moths to a flame
>>543920431>caring about dev intention when the game released was half finished with no clear design philosophy that was fun on accidentYou put too much stock into what arrowhead thinks
>>543920461>youre one faceless guy among a bunch of other faceless guys shooting a bunch of other faceless guyssounds like HD2. Also BF is nothing like being an average joe either
>>543920571It increases the time between enemy reinforcement calls, it doesn't affect roaming patrols
>>543920571>localization confusion:>increases the cooldown time between enemy reinforcement calls (bug breaches, bot drops) by 10%.i don't understand your problem.
>>543920815>4 guys are a bunchYoure really grasping straws.
>>543917771I just got it from the threads. I see cute girl, I save
>>543920815>Also BF is nothing like being an average joe eitherDo you not know what "fantasy" means??
>>543919426Did Arrowhead not understand and/or realize that the reason the "evil side" grunts are mowed down by plot-armored protagonists is because they are dangerous? Just because grunts don't get plot-armor doesn't mean they aren't effective, otherwise the whole plot of, "hero kills bad guys" would have never happened in the first place.
>>543920662They only make wrong changes under pressure of the rabble
>>543920873Do we have numbers on that? I noticed Watchers can’t call in another drop until so much time has passed, but what amount of time is that? 1 minute? 2 minutes? And how does the booster affect it?
Grunt fantasy is you are physically weak compared and outnumbered in comparison to your foes but have dangerous weaponry and fire support to even the odds. Which is what the game is.
>>543921154t. said rabble
>>543921242>Helldivers are weakSelf-report
>>543910096ggs
>plasma punisher buffI was already liking it on bots. I'm a happy diver.
>>543920268https://youtu.be/CVItevGgOnE?t=17935They say supporting player creativity is important and they want you to be creative problem solvers. The reality is they only want creativity that they specifically allow.
>>543921523Retard. You die in this game VERY quickly if an enemy manages to actually hit you. You just don't notice because pre-stimming is overpowered.
>>543921681>Another self-report
>>543921681Special forces die very quickly in real life if they manage to get hit, too. But they are good so they don't get hit. But when you play, you do get hit I guess.
>>543921242Yep. As far as I'm concerned the fact that we're made out of paper and still move like humans do is a complete fulfillment of the Grunt Fantasy (tm). Having powerful gear at our disposal is the thing that elevates the game to being a sci-fi commando fantasy. The game has both. The argument is over and done. All we need now is some proper difficulty scaling and enemies that aren't retarded, so that you CAN get hit and die like the grunts we are.
>>543921154They make changes to spite the rabble.
>>543921810Its so funny how people think "Special Forces = Literally invincible Main Character Plot Armour" and use that as an argument.Reminds me when Arrowhead tried to cope and said Helldivers have a 2 min life span when weve seen how they play.
>>543921618>they want you to be creative problem solversI can tell. They made support weapons other than RR and Quasar useful on the bot front.
>>543921918I'm starting to think AH genuinely hates their players and is trying to kill the game with all their retarded decisions but Sony won't let them kill their only successful live service game and forces AH to fix the game whenever it goes really bad
>>543921742Why are you twisting this into me self-reporting myself when I'm right? You aren't John Halo who can tank a hunter smacking him in the face. You just die instantly because you're a regular human. Being good enough to dodge that/not get hit doesn't make that point moot, it reinforces it.
>>543922365>>543921974
>>543921974It's a funny thing when people point out the casualty rate when it's about on par with special forces in WWII, and I'd expect that when dropping into the shit helldivers drop into.
I blame Call of Duty for giving people warped ideas of what special forces are.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243857503166/76561198015607024D10 moon bugs because fuck hellmire i hate that planet
You know this whole grunt argument is just semantic nonsense if you think about it. Grunt really just means an infantry man. In the US military you hear the term "POG" which means "Person Other than Grunt" for non-combantants. The idea being that a grunt is just an actual combatant. Got a friend that was an Army Ranger. He's been called both an operator and a grunt.Seems that there is another connotation that AH and other seem to think that a "grunt" means useless, unskilled cannonfodder infantry like a storm trooper, and that is where the contention is at. AH of course being swedish doesn't know the first thing about actual military or what a grunt can mean so to them it just means a storm trooper.
>>543922660>so to them it just means a storm trooper.Thats exactly how they see it. its funny too because Lore-wise Storm Troopers are actually extremely good at their jobs. We just see them fighting the main characters all the time so they look incompetent.
>>5439226563/4
>>543922648>call of duty hate in the big 2025 (almost 2026)
>>543923427The rot CoD inflicted is still being felt and will persist for decades.
>>543922660Which is extra funny since stormtroopers are still in universe special forces. Both in EU and canon. We've seen the normal army guys.
>>543866775https://youtu.be/OBW4NumlYHo?t=274I wanna know why their damage philosophy is "Light Pen weapons do more durable damage." I find it questionable and have many questions.
>>543921080Do you?>>543920890>>4 guys are a bunchYeah.
Pred strain is genuinely the most insufferable subfaction to play against
>>543924156dumb frogposter
>>543911505Increased their durable damage reduction, so despite losing 1k hp, they still take around the same amount of bullets to kill (for the buffed weapons).
>>543922890I will never stand for clone trooper flanderazationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p_ugTFfpO4
>>543923992Youre clearly being disingenuous at this point.
>>543869425>usecase for crossbow that isnt covered by eruptorBeing a nimble highly mobile dude in light armor with a jet pack.
>>543923936Light pen ammo is hollowpoints or simple jacketed lead ball, both of which balloon and expand on penetration for more internal damageMedium pen is green tips, jacketed steel penetrators that don't do much more than poke a 5.5mm/8mm hole in the target.
>>543920732No one said 'useless', not sure where you took that from. They just want a tense game where success, let alone survival, isn't guaranteed.
>>543922350>starting toBrother the evidence has been there from the first week with comments like those ones that got swiftly swept under the rug. Everyone from the directors down to the CMs hate the players, it couldn't be more obvious. Just look at their demeanors in the patch video, they're fucking bored and tired. They do NOT want to be there and the only time they laugh or smile is when they're taking small digs at the community. And then they just quietly get up and leave. Some editing could have saved it but man they are clearly signaling that they are fed up and fucking done with their playerbase.
>>543924156Them being able to use a spit attack during any action or animation is incredibly annoying. Outside of that, they're FINE.
GTFO>>543924519>>543924519>>543924519
>>543924259tbf Clone Troopers and Storm Troopers arnt the same. After the Empire was formed Plapatine phased out clones for normal recruits because of the vulnerability with clones running thE risk of turning traitor like how they were used with Order 66. The clones trained the first batch of recruits, but they still didnt compare to the clones with many clones thinking them to be extremely sub-par. BUT Clones are literally bred to be killing machines and using the template from the most dangerous bounty hunter in the galaxy so I dont know if its a fair comparison.
>>543921918Yeah the rabble loved War Striders, that's why we have Sissy Striders now, AH just wanted to piss them off.
>>543924509It's not personal against the players, in Sweden people just aren't talkative and working is seen as a massive disgrace. I'm Nigerian but I've been living here for the past decade so I know what the culture is like.
>>543924457Are you really going to sit there and pretend people don't associate storm troopers with retards firing peashooters that always miss their targets? Yes, you can say it's because of the main characters and the story andblah blah blah. But people literally use storm troopers as a reference to joke infantry
>>543924975Blame the films
>>543924242>>543924521It's not even that they are hard, it's that they are incredibly annoying if you don't stick to your team. Half the time it's not worth going back to pick up my dropped support cause I get raped by 20 hunters
>>543925086>blah blah blahDoesn't change that storm troopers are associated useless cannonfodder. AH using them as a frame of a reference for grunts only speaks to their own limited understanding. Granted, it's probably a lot of people's understanding. Could defintiely just be an ESL thing. But grunt in the US military really just means infantryman, and the idea that grunts are only cannonfodder is just speaks more to your own understandings.
>>543925524I just think the whole situation is incredibly ironic.>Storm troopers are really good lore-wise but on screen theyre incredibly inept>Arrowhead wants you to believe helldivers are incredibly inept but in gameplay they are really good.
>>543925791Helldivers are incredibly inept if you play in pubs.
>6 missions >4 crashesThey didn't fix shit
>>543929497turn your mods off
>>543924848Cheeky after thread fembot
>>543879776They whisper in your head telling you to touch them, it would be strange if they didn't
