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>News
Agent Record | Banyue
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41700148
Agent Record | Dialyn
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/41681910
Version 2.3 Special Program
https://youtu.be/uTWIK77TcdI

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/NCzUV95VIEI
https://youtu.be/CQBbCfxIgnY (EN)
https://youtu.be/wutoIFoyZGU (JP)
https://youtu.be/rT6FVNzD02E (EN)
https://youtu.be/G5tW5IGjjk0 (JP)
https://youtu.be/jaxcn1kja9Y (EN)
https://youtu.be/buGfCjPLaZc (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.3
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/160259
All-New Program 10/14 - 11/25
The Inverted Night Lantern 10/14 - 11/24
When Dreams Remain Unfinished 10/17 - 11/24
SNAP! Shining Strike 10/22 - 11/10
Timesworn Hills Explorer's Guide 10/14 - 11/26
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 10/29 - 11/03
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 11/05 - 11/25
Chronicle of Counseling 11/05 - 11/17
141 Eco Art Exhibition 11/12 - 11/24
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 11/19 - 11/24

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ23SWEETILY

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Minty won, horsecuck MAD
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You will never be a woman.
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Bunny cunny!
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Peak SEAhours, rangeban needed
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>playing 2.2
>Magus actually has friction with you and gets into philosophical arguments with you about being an illegal proxy
>you get semi-arrested by the military
WTF? 2.2 is actually based. Finally a proper story instead of just MC pandering
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>most awaited character
>healer/shielder
>barely an upgrade over a free character
Wu... LOST BIGLY.
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>>543931173
>>543931180
Horsexister? Your response?
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Fufu won!
Yucky Icky trannies b gone!
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>>543931259
The tranjan should ban horsey on the spot, for xher own good, xhe eats the baits extremely easy and actual trolls user xhim to shit up the thread.
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>>543931321
Trans(((people))) are an issue that solve themselves, we need not intervene.
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>>543931182
I hope spook shack keeps interacting with krampus in 2.4
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Slamdunk tranny heads into garbage cans.
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I like them Big & Tall.
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>>543931248
>peak SEAhours
Isn't it like 2 am or 3 am there?
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>>543931602
Ok I understand you don't want to get cucked like (me), but wish me death? Rude
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>>543931073
Imagine the farts haha
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>>543931706
They're from SEA so they don't know that most westerners are repulsed by them, it's the usual brown third worlder reaction falseflag.
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>>543931248
>mutt hours
>We need SEA IP range banned now!
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>>543931706
Exactly. I want you to think for a quarter second, only schizos would be posting this late. 4AM burger hours have insane burger schizos as well.
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>>543931816
who could this be?
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>>543931248
>Browns uppity after this one
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mutt site, mutt planet
make your own eupoor site if you hate us so much
(They all died)
rip
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>>543932019
The one who defeats Yixuan and takes her proper place as Void Hunter and Defender of Waifei Penisula.
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The goatussy got me actin' up~
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Nasaan si Minty?
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>>543932053
they tried to make their own, their cucked state of existance and governments wouldn't allow it so they're all nuked or cowering on 8troon (another site hosted and made by americans)
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I like Komano Manato.
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>>543932270
Nanalo si Minty, aminado akong talo.
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RAPE Zhao with love and affection
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SNIIIFFF
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HorseCHAD BROKE you
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Aight I am out
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>>543932434
not like he has to try hard, trannies are easily spooked and xheir brown knights are low IQ
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>>543932469
where did she put her nipples???
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For me? It's him.
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Ellen Roe
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>>543932425
musty boy
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>>543932434
>>543932530
Pasensya na sa pag-post ng mga homsexual, tumigil na ang Israel sa pagpapadala ng HRT at sinira ng nakaraang bagyo ang lokal na welfare clinic ko.
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>>543932647
your language dies within 100 years because nobody except poors speak it
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>>543932647
LMAO
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it could be worse, we could be canadians.
imagine
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>>543932647
big words from somebody living on unemployment bennies for being retarded
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>>543932856
>All mods are now jeets/chinese
nothing changed
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>>543932601
He needs a tongue-bath this instant.
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We need him in v3.
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Absolute Minty Victory, rent free + stay mad + she is not even here
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>>543933126
again, no idea who this tranny is stop brining them up nobody cares lil bro
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>>543932425
>>543933108
Leave it to me
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You think Manato will join Krampus?
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>>543931180
>>543931469
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Schizos are melting down post Shiyu clears.
(Another easy week)
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>>543933126
Horsetranny will instantly reply to any mention of minty, xhe mad
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>>543933126
This is true, Asmongold talked about this in his past stream.
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WHAT THE FUCK DOES "A TRUE MELON" EVEN MEANS?????
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Opinions on Ellen Joe?
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>>543933630
one melon to rule them all
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>>543933687
I love Aquatic women they stink good.
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>>543933630
A true melon like this.
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>>543931073
my brick wife
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>>543933687
CUTE but useless
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Is Manato even good? Should I build him?
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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Discuss
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Cutehari Murphy
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>>543933774
Yidhari's panties must smell like the high sea
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>>543933867
Do you like him as a character?
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>>543932053
>site owned by a jap
>style copied from a jap site
>m-make y-your own e-eupoors...
Classic mutt education.
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>>543933869
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Is everybody else Soldier 11 always chilling out here with the little bangbros?
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>>543933869
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>>543934041
coded by an american, made by one.
hosted in america and under american law
cope europoor
make your own site (you cant lol)
kneel
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>>543933894
lucia and alice are on the cream team
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>543932053
>543934041
>543934197
This discussion is as real as cuckshiptranny delusions btw
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Describe Anby's personality without mentioning burgers or movies.
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>>543933976
good, i love how when she runs it sounds like wet splashing
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>>543934014
he's alright but was wondering if he is good for fire weakness fights since i dont have a fire character for that
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>>543934519
Military weapons-grade autism.
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Does Horsecucky still hate wuwa because the girls like Rover?
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>>543934519
stone cold and unsentimental
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>>543934709
>your highly anticipated character looks like shit
she's getting skipped for better characters in 3.0 lmfaoooooo
its phrog all over
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>>543934643
You can wait for Ban Yue if you want a strong fire character
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>>543934732
Bao Bao!

https://www.tiktok.com/@dou57dou/video/7499780590728711430?lang=da
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>>543934732
her halloween costume
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>>543935105
I love her but I'm glad I don't have tiktok. I would watch her all day
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Cute Bnnuy
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>>543935105
>lang=da
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>>543935513
don't laugh
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Remember to stay hydrated during your daily ZZZ session! Looking at foof all day can make you forget it easy!!
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so after this squid hag the angry bunny (bunny + cunny) is next?
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Mmm-hmmm~~
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>>543933869
Hello romanian poster!!! What did u cook on this friday???? Anything good?
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I want to marry my sister and reproduce.
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What battlepass ball is worth picking up? I have the ticket but I dont particularly need one
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>>543935861
No. Gigachad Shifu is next.
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So is Yidhari a good pickup to replace Miyabi since theyre killing her with the anomaly immune boss coming up?
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>>543936943
she is the lowest priority character, anyone else can clear the content made for her
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Would you make magus go away while you had sex with orphie, or does magus stay?
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fufu's bones can't take it anymore...
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>>543937304
Her skull is going to crack and then she'll go SSJ FuFu just you wait
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>>543937262
im having sex with Magus while Orphie watches
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Komano love!
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>>543937743
horse hands made this post
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Got fucking scammed on my Dialyn prefarm disc
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>>543937743
human fingers typed this message
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>took a nap
>slept through an entire melty
looks like I won
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>>543937827
What?

>>543937890
I do be human.
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>>543937913
neet nap alert
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Fufu on the front cover!
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>>543937913
>>543938068
HES ABSOLUTELY NAPPING
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I miss summer
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>>543934519
Stoïc but not quite cold, and know when to loosen up and appreciate her free time.
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Uh oh horsepedo melty
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>>543933802
This is a watermelon, not a melon.
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>you actually can't leave to spend stamina or do your dailies when you get arrested by the Defense Force
Holy fucking BASED. I wonder how many autists had a meltdown over this.
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>>543934519
nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor.
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damn I wanted to skip lucia but I only barely did this shiyu. I really feel that my shify will soon need that 20% damage upgrade.
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It's /zzz/'s favorite team!
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Guys, I whaled for Lucia.
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>>543938810
Replace Hugo with Manato and it's MY favorite team
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>>543938873
Baa-ram you.
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>>543934519
kuudere
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I regret skipping Orpheus
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>>543939456
and you should feel bad about it too
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>>543938873
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>>543939456
No you don't
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>>543937304
fufu is strong she can take it!!
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>>543939456
For who?
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>>543939456
Understandable, I'm sorry bwo you'll get her on her rerun
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Post Fufu's Fufus!
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>>543935497
baka bunny
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Manato is so lucky
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>>543940087
this is shopped right?
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Hey
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>>543940051
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I'm the best male agent and this is my pov
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>>543940087
LMAO there's no way this is real right?? I mean there is after how Belle talks but still...
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>>543940420
>I'm the best male agent
You aren't
>and this is my pov
It isn't.
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>>543940420
Damian...
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Huh, is this new, first time i got it in HZ
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>>543940553
>>543940301
bakas
i just made it lol
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>>543941025
that damn yuzupepper...
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>>543933302
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>>543940051
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>>543940714
Nah it's old as fuck
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So after the chinkhunter we officially get out of chink land? We need to get back to being a criminal.
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>>543939897
She cannot withstand the power of Banyue Shifu
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>>543941223
manato king
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>>543941371
Idols sidestory will likely not be in chink land, so yeah 2.5 is probably the end of it for now. 3.0 I would guess will be primarily in Throne quarter.
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vivian looks stupid with those rocket boosters on her ass or whatever they are
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Buff Dialyn
Please...
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>>543941223
I look like this and I say this
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>>543942526
mmmmmmmm nyo
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Buff the robutt.
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Caesar buffs... please...
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So whats Yidhari's actual gameplay loop like?
Is it
>charge to three
>release
>spam attack to cancel into ground smash
>if enemy attacks press special to parry
>if after parry you have ex special press again to unleash tentacles
?
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>>543943478
Yeah, pretty much. I've been wondering about what disc sets would be best for her, I think 4pc polar metal actually might be the way to go. It depends on whether her big damage attacks are considered basic attacks or specials.
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>>543943478
It looks the same as every other agent. The agent's aren't actually different, anon.
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Fufu got so mad at your shitposting she debuffed Dialyn.
Are you proud of yourself?!?
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>>543942526
What happened to her? Wasn't she pretty busted?
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>>543943884
Ah yes
Miyabi plays the same as Yidhari who plays the same as S11 who plays the same as Lucy who plays the same as Evelyn

Retard
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>>543941371
>wisepaki
>can't wait to be a criminal again
The jokes write themselves folks
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>decided to try manato fufu lucia team
>20 minute da run
Wowza that took a lot
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On a scale of 1-10

How likely is Zhu rerun in 2.4
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>>543943428
But why? Makes you invincible. Works in the most broken team in the game.
There are many others needing this much more.
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>>543943960
Remember the daze buff depending on her c.dmg? They reduced to 0.5 per % instead of 1. The silverlining is that you don't need to up the c.dmg above a certain treshold anymore.
She doesn't have the guaranteed crit anymore.
Her buff got reduced, but it applies to the entire team now.
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>Manato patch
>Fire resistant Shiyu
gg
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>>543943960
they broke her back today.
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>>543943882
As cool as that sounds Yunkai is probably still superior just based off how sheer force scales
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>>543944551
>>543944569
Is she still as good or better than Lighter for my Eve? That's pretty much the only reason why I was rolling
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>>543944509
>tranomaly
>best anything
LMAO
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>>543944278
exactly
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>>543944569
What's the additional MV?
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I don’t know who to get fufu or dialyn I can only have one rupture stunner
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>>543944551
According to Hakush.in it now scales with CR over 50% and it's 2 Impact per 1% CR.
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>>543944957
Just wait for Dialyn beta to end
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What if Vivian got really really fat?
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>>543945028
Gotta explain this >>543944569
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>>543944551
Don't care, she could be worse than pulchra. Still rolling. Ball too.
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bros?
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fufu or mbb
who wins
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>>543944713
Well have to see but I think at least this team will probably have Lighter as the best stunner still
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>>543945154
Tbh, they kinda buffed by making her able to activate a chain attack by herself.
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>>543945256
Nothing bad just try again
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so you have to build her with 100% crit rate to max her buff now?
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>>543945106
I checked both Hoyobase and Hakush and they both say the same thing. Though the version from the jpg is kind of better for anyone not pulling on her engine. The other changes are correct.
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>>543945456
yeah it worked after a game restart
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>>543943286
These are all adult women.
Your post is misleading.
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>>543945519
See nothing bad, no need to worry. One time I accidentally selected a different region in the menu without noticing and when I logged in I was at the start where you select your sibling. Now that was a shocker, I thought my account was gone
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>>543945512
Heh. She kinda suck to build now I feel.
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>>543945627
doesn’t fufu lie about her age
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when?
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I've pulled for 3 Sig Wengines since day 1.
28 pity away from guaranteed.
Should I snag Lucia's since it's niche or hold out for some kino DPS Wengine down the line?
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>>543945627
Their post says nothing about their age, numbnuts
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All the homoposts have made me start popping boners when I see male agents
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>>543945627
I'd fuck all of them except Manato's girlfriend (Wise).
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>>543944713
No, still the champion of fire and ice.
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>>543946053
Are you really sure you want a Kiana expy in this game?
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Dialyn got nerfed? That's crazy anon
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>>543946053
Is it me or her and Joyous' equipment are similar? Like the same prange box things?
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>>543945853
No has to do her taxes like the rest of the temple.
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>>543946080
Support w-engines are generally less important than w-engines for your DPS, nor sure about Stunners. Especially when you roll for them sparingly, I'd get it for the rupture DPS instead
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Wise can't stop winning
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>>543946053
future (past) belle…
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Any Belle jav cosplay videos? Codes anyone?
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napnap
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>>543946303
Never rolling for a faggot, never.
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>>543946053
When you stop trying to sex Bangboos
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>>543946721
wise....
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>>543947101
Based kinohater
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>>543947156
Wise doesn't need cosplayers and jav he has the real thing.
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>>543946656
I was expecting Manato in the end
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>>543947101
So you didn't roll for Astra and Evelyn right?
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>>543947406
Faggot (male(worm))
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How to fix the game

Add Pulchra sex mode
Add Vivian sex mode
Add Nekomata sex mode
Add melon run with Meebs to the game
Add Jane Does sex dungeon
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Bibian Vanshee
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>>543947406
You should really learn the difference between a bundle of sticks and a wall built to hold the s.e.a. back.
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How to fix the game
Add Chisa
Add Iuno
Add Fleurdelys (not Cartethyia)
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If I pull Banyue I'm just going to give him Manato's engine. Don't really need him since I have Evelyn
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>>543947490
>Add melon run with Meebs to the game
Just this, dumpster the rest though
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Damn, can we please just... Exchange Yidhari's design with her therapist's?
I hate how hoyo is perfectly capable of making good designs but only NPCs and men are allowed to dress normally for some reason while playable women are forced to drape themselves in increasingly chimeric abominations that make no sense.
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>>543947794
If Yidhari had a swimsuit instead of Vivian I would pull her.
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>>543947490
>How to fix the game
>Add Pulchra sex mode
>Add Vivian bullying mode
>Add Nekomata sex mode
>Add melon run with Meebs to the game
>Add Jane Does sex dungeon filled with women
Now I will play your game.
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Is Dialyn straight up replacing Ju Fufu? I was going to roll on her rerun for my Yixuan/Lucia team.
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>>543948096
Seems like it, they even buffed her by making the buff work for the whole team to beat fufu on dual attack team too.
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>>543947794
I think Yidhari will be the last design from that particular artist. Banyue and Dialyn look like Waterkuma's work and Shungus had the same designer as Sneed and Alice.
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AHAHAHAHAHA
FUFU FUCKING WON
GET FUCKED DIALYN PEDOS
AHAHAHAHA
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>>543948096
She's replacing every stunner
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>>543948096
pick who ever design and kit you like.
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Big Daddy featured.
Piper love.
Enzo love.
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>>543948453
Its over...
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>>543948453
>even Johnathan Sterner is calling her washed
It's completely over...
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>>543948096
No.
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>>543948453
>fufu
Trigger is a much better generalist stunner
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>>543948481
I don't really pay attention to kits anymore. I got tired of the walls of WORDS WORDS WORDS that boil down to press EX and switch. Content creators can spoonfeed me.
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I like fufu more but playing her in da is miserable no quickswap I don’t even know if I’m playing her right I just make the orange bar full and her basic attack string doesn’t have iframes
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>>543948565
Are those the two Piper concepts in the background?
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>>543948929
Whoever writes the movelist is a complete fucking schizo. 100 words to say something that only needs 10.
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>>543948921
Trigger has no Daze with Yixuan.

Dialyn actually provides a 3rd Ult for Yixuan which Jufufu can refund.
+ the 2 stunners can merge multipliers.
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>>543948921
Trigger doesn't work with Rupture at all.
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>>543949043
Posting to check.
Good eyes.
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>>543949280
>double stun with YX
Are you retarded?
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I don't really care what Dialyn does. Her design is hideous and her dumb bayonetta hands cover the screen so I can't see shit.
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>>543949314
Theoretically, she can Daze for an Electruc Rupture.
Or maybe an Electric Defender can bridge her to Rupture.
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>>543949626
>Theoretically, she can Daze for an Electruc Rupture.
>Or maybe an Electric Defender can bridge her to Rupture.
They don't exist.
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>>543949626
Even so, one of the best parts of Trigger, the DEF shred, is completely useless for Rupture.
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>>543949760
But they could!
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I tried playing with the JP dub. Everyone sounds great but wise sounds like a faggot and I feel compelled to shove him into a locker.
Guess I'll stay with the EN dub.
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>>543949898
ENpags are also Wisepags... as expected
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>>543949760
>They don't exist.
What you really mean is you hope they will never exist, just so you can win internet arguments in the future too, right shitposter?
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>>543949848
Heheheheheheh
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>>543949807
>one of the best parts of Trigger, the DEF shred
That's only for retards who rolled for her engine.
The rupture chads always knew her C1 is more valuable than her Sig.
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Okay guys, MASSIVE NEW INFO for Zenless Zone Zero. In this video we talk about the exact same shit we did last video.
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I thought Lucia was an old hag...
When will Rina get hagcreeped?
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>you can now use Belle for the dates with Hugo
HUH? When did they add this? Getting trust up with the males doesn't feel weird now.
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>>543950001
You looks like the kind of brat that need a correction.
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>>543950326
>whoring out your sister for Dennies
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>>543950326
paki
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Does anyone ever actually use Anton? I'm trying energy regen on his disk 6 even though the game overwhelmingly recommends attack % because he drains his energy so fast. He definitely feels a lot better to play now but I don't know if it's worth the loss in attack.
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so, what music do you think they will use for the next characters? Especially Zhao
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>checking website with models for 3D-printing
>looking up new ZZZ stuff
>already 2 (TWO) Manato figures
>not a single Lucia and Yidhari
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>>543950326
I'm gonna do all the Manato trusts with Belle since the game doesn't know how to write bro friendships.
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>>543950506
Using him with Astra to spam his quick assist attack is actually pretty strong. Other than that, he's shit. Cool concept, bad execution and since he's A he will never be fixed
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weren't we supposed to get a vg league poll today or something
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Fufu's here!
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>>543950506
You need his Assist at lvl 16 if you use him with Astra.
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>>543950686
Stop trying to separate wise from his top
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>>543950894
fufu would say this
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>>543949495
Double stun with Yixuan is great.
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>>543950942
I don't think fufu would say this
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>>543950954
Stop trying to brick people retard
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>>543949495
it's a valid team doe?
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>>543950692
>>543950805
I unfortunately started too late and just missed Astra's rerun. I used him as my DPS early on but right now I'm just trying to use him as a cope team in the new mode. I feel like he could actually be decent if I had Trigger and Astra.
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>>543951071
It's not a brick, you're just retarded.
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>>543949327
>Sparkplug girl but with electric eel shoes instead of shark
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>she rolled for anomaly agents
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>>543951184
Hmm no. Lucia is astronomically better than your dumb chinky stunner and it's not close. Retard.
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DAMIDAMIDAMIO
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>>543951002
I think Fufu
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>>543951305
Nyes I rolled my bibi (Mibibi)
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>>543951367
same desu
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>>543950942
She would say it because she is a hero who protects those in need
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>>543951305
not stopping the Piper
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>>543951340
>Lucia
A-rank support with 800 sheer force? Not even a threat to anyone.
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>>543949314
she works just fine. that's how good she is, you don't even need her core passive.
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To those who’ve played the new patch, what do you think about the potential non-proxy m/f ship

With the story now centering on Yidhari, Lucia, and Monato, I can’t help but notice some hints between Monato and Lucia. What’s your take on it?
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Vivian / Piper / X
Who do I use
Nicole or Lucy
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>>543950629
You have AIDS
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Anyone have steam deck? How does this game play on it?
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>>543951305
Are they ever going to stop making Anti-Miyabi bosses?

This is pathetic.
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>>543950629
I mean Manato is basically Jotaro
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>>543944575
Are you going to regularly be at 3 stacks outside of the stun window?
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>>543951676
Never ever. Chinks would have a meltdown.
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>>543951305
I just finished building out my Vivian. Why would Hoyo do this to me?
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>>543952290
Her tentacle proc counts as an ex so she can get some stacks reliably
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>>543952071
everyone is skipping too much because miyabi clears content too easily. sorry but this is the only way
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Finally got Lucia (after 150 rolls...). I don't have Shifu so my rupture team will be her (w/ Weeping Cradle), Manato (w/ Puzzle Sphere) and who's the f2p 3rd slot? Pan?
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>>543952653
I'm skipping because the designs are shit. I only pulled Lucia because I had 400 pulls and she's meta support.
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>make anomaly op
>make the new bosses have mechanics that kill your active character if you can’t pop the miamsa (anomaly doesn’t work on it)
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>>543951305
>guys we made anomaly too strong what do we do!
honestly? better than the more common alternative of releasing a bunch of incredibly overpowered characters of the other class to compensate
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>>543948453
They did this hours after I rolled a bunch of crit damage discs for her. That'll fucking teach me I guess.
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>>543952432
Didn't know that, then yeah it probably will be. It's kind of boring though, I wish they took the opportunity to revitalize some old sets with new characters.

>>543952660
Either Panda or a stunner like Fufu, budget options are Koleda and Pulchra.
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>>543951305
Good thing Miyabi can still be played like a generic stun based attacker and do relatively fine, especially if you are a Lighter chad
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>>543952803
now they gotta buff every character again
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>release meebs
>release alice
>release yuzuha
I mean you have to kill anomaly after this
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Which ZZZ would be the worst lay?
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>>543952983
>Either Panda or a stunner like Fufu, budget options are Koleda and Pulchra.
No Fufu or Koleda, sadly. Would Qingyi work or am I better off using Pan or Pulchra?
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Make Attackers Great Again
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>>543951305
fine i'll save for a year gonna let this shit ramp up
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>>543953175
You are BROWN
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>>543951489
That's why she's against trans "rights"
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>>543951305
I'm going to get Burnice when she reruns again even if they make every DA boss immune to anomaly by the time that happens.
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>>543953175
Shungwang is little sister material not a mommy.
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>>543951497
>Piper's weapon looks like a shovel in thumbnail
>"Hey proxy, wanna help lil ole me bury a body?"
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>>543953127
Probably Soldier 11. Or Yanagi.
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>>543953714
Absolutely.
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>>543952751
Lucia is so shit in her personality + story + look that I don't want to roll for her even if she is meta. I'll just stick with panda.
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So Manato's best team is Lucia+Panda right? Double supp>supp+stunner
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>>543951305
Tranomalysissies...
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>>543954362
>panda
Fucking disgusting

No his best team is Lucia + Fufu
Other options are Trigger or Lighter or Pulchra
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>>543953301
My favorite character is lighter btw and I also have AIDS
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>>543954729
Hmmm your game knowledge looks sus
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>>543951305
Every rerun is bait. DPS reruns especially are huge bait. Happening across all hoyo games is the pivot to stage/enemy mechanics dissuading cope teams. Build the team they want you to build
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I identify as roll for who you like and disregard metakeks
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I just finished the main story but damn Manato is so cool.
how come Light didnt get cool moments as Manato?
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>>543954362
No, Lucia Panda does no daze. You want a stunner (Fufu).
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>>543954962
You have anal fistula
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Still never rolling hp bricks
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>>543954810
Uh oh brown shiptranny melty
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>>543954820
He needs a stunner
Manato's m6 is what makes him a real fucking unit
Even without activating their extra ability Lighter and Trigger are leagues better than running an additional support

But hey if you wanna suck ching ching stupid ugly panda cock with his year long chain attack thats on you
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>>543954962
Because the Sons of Flopydon are garbage that they only made to try shill amerishart culture to Westerners (they all flopped)
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>>543954835
genshin is the worst with this, every new boss is just a shill mechanic boss that you cannot beat with the non shill character and they dont have a myabi equivalent that just brute forces everything cause the mechanics are so specific
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>>543955089
>But hey if you wanna suck ching ching stupid ugly panda cock with his year long chain attack thats on you
just chain cancel

someone has major buyer's remorse over their ugly goat filler character.
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It feels like this anon just has an anti-Pan agenda. He gets real angry when you recommend him.
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>>543955089
You need both if you're using Rupture on both sides
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>>543955252
Cope more dude
This isnt even a conversation about Lucia
Its about running Lucia WITH Panda
Fucking retard learn to read
Even IF you only have panda you still NEED a stunner
You wouldnt run Lucy or Astra you fuck
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Lighter's wonnering BROKE the wormschizo
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This forced melty is kinda lame...
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What if you hung out with these guys daily? How would life change?
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>>543955393
Dialyn is still gonna be Eve new BiS btw.
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>>543945838
Not really. All they did was swap it so you focus on max crit chance and don't worry about crit dmg which she has no use for as a stunner. Now she works with King of the Summit set in every way.
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>>543955574
I love them all so much.
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pretty late on this but how is Lucia meant to be played? I start with her then mash basic until she does the thing then EX if I have energy and assist off to Shifu then repeat when she runs out of purple juice
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>>543955576
Is she powercreeping every stunner?
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>>543955576
cope. it's much more likely that he gets his core passive changed and becomes bis for Banyue and Yidhari
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>>543955574
I'd be broke me thinks
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>>543956008
this will probably happen
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>>543956008
>core passive changed
Drugs are bad mkay.
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if that rumored S11 buff gives her aftershocks to work with orphie im gonna cum
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>>543956008
Still rolling dialyn
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>>543956008
>koleda core passive updated
>Lighter is still begging for his update
Lighter bros.....
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>>543956332
Honestly, what they should do is if she has any burn stacks on, when you swap away from her she just stays on field and does BA until she uses them all
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Phone girl's dumb design is growing on me.
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>>543956539
>this thing that has happened before will never happen again!
you're power coping. it's 100% going to happen at some point, the only question is when.
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ENTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCd4Iew4YQ
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>>543956798
Seeing them side by side just further proves how boring and generic the design is
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Which /zzz/ girl has the smelliest butt?
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>>543956798
>Japanese and Chinese girl dancing together
They would never.
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Puppy.
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>>543956732
They should just update everyone to work with rupture or just remove the stupid core passive requirement.
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>>543956965
Piper
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>>543953138
You won't get her passive on a rupture team. Pulchra is probably your best bet although Pan could also work, you just won't get a lot of stuns.
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>pls buff my wormter
Ahahahahahahhaahba
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Billy status?
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https://x.com/nolaklop/status/1980333154914431063

Here's your Lucia VA,dubbros
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>>543957489
wait i thought lizzie freeman did pomni
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>>543957237
Qingyi's faction passive doesn't matter that much, she does well with Yi Xuan
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post fuuf
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so do I run Lucia, Shifu, and Yinfu? I no have fufu
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>>543940087
banger
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>>543957476
Still the most fun that I have when playing.
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>>543957489
also voiced Isolde
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>>543957926
Yeah that's the good stuff
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>>543956732
>totally going to fix someone who doesn't need a fix
retard
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>>543958135
yea, Astra was in dire need of being fixed when they changed her passive
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>>543957926
fufu
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>>543957489
>Lucia's VA voiced Isolde
WHAT
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>>543958357
Yeah it only took them a year after her patch to fix her right?
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would you hang out with a girl with a stupid face like this
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>>543955938
>>543958064
Seeing pics like these and maybe The Cunning Hares should've been the MCs
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>>543958473
I have two personalities
>THE SACRED PATH SHALL NOT BE ARRAIGNED
>lil spidey :)
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>>543958357
and yet Lighter hasn't gotten any changes. Hence he does not need a fix.
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So we all agree they're the best faction in the game?
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>>543958624
I probably only have a shot with girls who make these faces.
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>>543958786
if you ignore Lucia and Midhari, maybe
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>>543958624
This would only increase the likelihood that I would hang out with her
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gay sex
with banyue
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>>543958786
Yes
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>>543958786
>the best faction in the game?
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>>543958703
Now I want to hear Isolde sing
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>>543958786
>>543959120
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>>543957926
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>>543959605
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I know weve had this issue since the beginning but I feel like its been getting worse and worse with every "support" type character

>Astra: press ex and fuck off
>Yuzuha: Press ex and fuck off
>Orphie: Press ex and fuck off
>Panda: Press ex and fuck off
>Lucia: Press ex (and sometimes BA oooo) and fuck off
It really kinda fucking sucks
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>>543958786
If anything, they're the best one in 2.X so far.
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>>543958786
>1.x CH, SoC
>2.x SS
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>>543959932
This is what you get with a team system that wants one person to be on field 99% of the time.
Support would need to do near DPS levels of damage to make them worth staying on field to do a proper rotation.
Buffers don't normally have any dps so they are there to buff and fuck off. You want them to have field time then they need to be fully reworked and the dps nerfed down to compensate. How many people want that to happen?
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>>543959932
Nobody likes playing Nico or Soukaku
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>>543958786
If you ignore Alice yeah
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>>543959932
>I know weve had this issue since the beginning but I feel like its been getting worse and worse with every "support" type character
Meanwhile, support characters in WuWa be like:
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>>543960369
Soukaku's EX Special being glacially slow is thematic at least
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>>543960551
>spam one button
>does no dps
yep thats a support alright.
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On the topic,
I like the way ZZZ makes the team feel in a battle, especially with aftershock now.
I always imagined a battle had all team members on the field, but theyre just off fighting on the side against other enemies, and when they parry or assist it was them stepping away from their battles to help you in yours

Aftershock ramped this up to eleven. Now, i can imagine Trigger on the battlefield assisting the the whole squad, and periodically she sets her sights on your enemy. Its nice

Its the best way these "team" gachas have ever done battles I think
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>>543957476
is a variant of banyu's model, and he had 4 arms that's how he could give one to Caesar.
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>>543954962
Lighter is a broken man, Manato has his whole life in front of him and friends that are still alive because he was never in Lighter's position
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>>543960758
>>spam one button
>>does no dps
>yep thats a support alright.
Those rock golems have higher hp than normal enemies thoughever
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>>543956008
His passive is called Orphie (she sucks btw)
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>>543960551
calm down corin holy shit
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>>543959932
hey leave Orphie out, she aftershocks!
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>>543961121
Don't make excuses. That's an overworld enemy. Not even a boss or anything in an instance. Lupa doesn't do much dps either and she's a support buffer.
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>>543959932
Orphie is HOLD ex some of the time, completely different
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>>543960326
It's weird because ZZZ's inspirations lie in action games like DMC, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, etc. And the main thing about those games is you're a one-man army fucking shit up and looking good while doing it.
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>>543961260
your Cheeza should be S6 anyway
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why are my dead end butcher scores so much lower than the other two DA bosses? even with Miyabi/yuzuha/Vivian team
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>proxy tools updated
Go pre farm for your Yidhari
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what if ye shinguang share the same body with ye shiyuan? that would make them a tranny, right?
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>>543962662
miyabi fell off
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>>543955576
Dialyn is looking worse for Eve but she's still way better than Ju Fufu, will be closer than any other stunner you can choose from especially once you swap her over to Puffer Electro/learn different routing.

>>543956008
Lighter is never getting his passive updated, any team he's eligible to be used in, he becomes BiS for. The entire point of him staying shackled with the Attacker clause is so they can keep him in his lane and sell new shit. Also this is just how they handle limited stunners in general.
>Qingyi is BiS for Zhu/Harumasa (2 characters)
>Trigger is BiS for Seed/SAnby (2 characters)
>Lighter is BiS for Evelyn/Hugo (2 characters + also S11 and Ellen but we don't talk about them)
>Ju Fufu is BiS for Yi Xuan/Banyue (2 characters)
>Dialyn will probably be BiS for Yidhari/Ye Shunguang
This is just how they handle limited stunners in general. It's kind of unprecedented to assume Lighter will become BiS for 4 limited characters. It feels unfair because the other characters are more splashable generalists but in that regard they're also way more mortal as far as being replaced, Lighter is probably the most explicitly niche support we have and I suspect they will not do another one like him any time soon.
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>>543931073
I want to lick up her entire body
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>>543962869
No because it would be two different minds in one body that changes the sex that corresponds to the gender of that mind.
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>>543962074
Action game has to limit something if you want to keep it fast paced like ZZZ. You could rip out all the buffers/def/stunners and just let the dps play like an army of one. But since they wanted to make it team based, the team has to do something. This is probably the best they can do within the game limitations.
The other side is games like Tales or Star Ocean where you have the (mostly) full team on the battlefield but team AI is full retarded and useless.
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>>543962762
Is Puzzle Sphere good enough for her?
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>>543963047
>Trigger is BiS for Seed/SAnby (2 characters)
Trigger is BiS for anyone Lighter isn't. She even gets used with anomaly and/or rupture she's that good.
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No way they're already going to overshadow Yidhari that soon by making Zhao an ice element...
Also how is Ye a void hunter while being so young and a junior
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>>543963494
waow
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>>543963047
Lighter is already hard capped by only working with 2 elements, and while the powercreep in this game is very slow the numbers are still ever rising, so there's no way he's going to be perma bis for every new unit. They already buffed units and changed passives before, I really don't see them leaving him mega restricted like this forever.
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>>543954262
I actually like Yidhari.....except her clothes. Her hair, face, eyes, tentacles and body are great. Just the horrible, horrible outfit stops me from pulling. She should have the 180 pull swimsuit, not Vivian.
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gcrushed
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>>543964171
I believe the order would be
>hers
>Shifu
>Manato's
>Puzzle sphere
>radiowave
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the final showdown
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>>543964430
I wish she'd have that office lady outfit that she wears in the art for the sleepy event
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>>543964559
Makes sense. Manato's would need to be R5 though? I won't pull that much for it. So Puzzle R5 > Manato R1
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>>543964176
BiS means something specific, best in slot. Usable =/= BiS.

Trigger is usable with Rupture but she's currently BiS for none of them, and Anomaly in this case is just Alice/Yanagi where she's not actually BiS either. With Alice, she was temporarily "BiS" (not really for +2 cost, Nicole was better lol) thanks to Artful making M0R1 Trigger crank your def shred up to a perma 60%. Without Artful, she's worse than Nicole/Vivian now at every similar cost bracket. Yanagi is kind of a similar story, Trigger is great and all but Yuzuha/Rina for example outperform Trigger at all relevant cost brackets.
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>>543964871
I believe so yes
I aint no theory crafter numbers guy, but I do think thats what all the numbers im seeing shake out to be
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what did she mean by this
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>>543962762
I might pre-farm this time, I have a feeling I'm going to get her before I get the last 4 Pulchra copies I need for M6.
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>>543965313
>Pulchra
Youve got good taste friend
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>>543965485
>Youve got good taste friend
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>>543965661
>HoYoLab filename
saar do not be of the plagirize
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>>543964330
Hardcapped by only working with 2 elements... out of 5. Covering 40% of the game is not exactly some insignificant amount.

It'd be nice if they eventually took the shackle off him when new and better comes out, but if you look at Qingyi and how she has been treated I think you will understand this is not going to happen. It's also just the case that taking it off him early just opens the floodgates to numerical powercreep. Anyone who has tried to cope with Ju Fufu vs Lighter already knows how ass it feels, imagine the sheer gap that will form when Lighter 2.0 comes out and you have to play some generalist second (now third) place who already felt mogged by the original Lighter 1.0.
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>>543965661
powerful
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>>543958786
>So we all agree they're the best faction in the game?
or at least they were until Lucia*
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>Dialyn
>50% dmg buff now applies to the entire team so she’s way better in SEED teams

baaased
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>Dialing is turbo bricked without her engine
not this shit again, guess i am skipping now
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Hugo status?
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sirs english is v hard plz understand
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>>543965117
guess you don't check top end ever.
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>>543966675
knotted
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>get s w-engine in normal banner
>its for nekomata...i dont even fucking have her
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>>543966803
But I do? Unless you mean retarded ass M6R5 shit because literally who cares about the 20cost meta.
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newish anon here, but i managed to M6 Manato, got his w-engine to 4 stars (i don't want to roll anymore) and managed to also get Lucia.

Their combo is really fun to play but how do you guys manage Lucia's veil? i always forget about it
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Good camera angle
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Chinaslop is killing an already dead game
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Burnice White status?
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>needs a favor from Section 6
>fucking Homomasa instead of Meebs or even Yanagi
what a waste, could've even used the chance to have Meebs actually just run there at 200km/h
they also just made it another "harumasa lazy lmao" joke even though that's the most boring part of his character, it was both funnier and more interesting when they leaned harder into his repeated leaves being due to his terminal illness and rampant schizophrenia
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>>543963047
Isn't fufu better for Yidhari because of how her ult works?
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>>543967018
>I forget about it
Just dont forget about it
Swap to her every once in a while and press ex. Its pretty easy to notice when the bubbles go away
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>>543965117
>cost bracket
means nothing. The game does not limit who you can or can't use or if they are allowed to have their sig or not. No one cares if you use a A-rank weapon and clear or use a S-rank weapon and clear. There is no such thing as "cost" in ZZZ.
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>>543967135
BEST WIFE!
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>>543966980
Obviously you don't from the way you're talking. Got some backwards ideas about how the game works.
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honestly the descriptions of skills is very convoluted, it's hard to remember what every agent can do when their basic attacks have 3 different tiers, so does their ex special and their assist etc
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I need to eat panda ass. Anyway, is doubling up Lucia and Pan in a team overkill or will there be moments where having both buffing a rupture agent be a-ok?
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>>543959932
This is why turn based games are superior for gacha games
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>>543967136
Miyabi has better things to do and Yanagi is busy making sure she does in fact do her work. That just leaves Haru.
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>radiowave journey x1
>cannon rotor x1
>electro-lip gloss x5
>0 everything else
what do I spend my city fund on this month?
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Bros could you theoretically run Yixuan double support with Lucia and Pan, while building Pan for impact? Or would that just be retarded? I skipped Fufu and have no plans on getting her lol. Maybe Dialyn
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>>543967313
Slut
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So is Hugo just never going to use his EX during stun now with Dialyn? I even crowned it...
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Qingyi rererun when?
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imagine if they made a male agent who is a baseball player but has a jacked bod and is just wearing briefs hahaha that would be funny
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>>543967701
forget the faggot panda and pull dialyn, even nerfed she will be the best limited stunner
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im reading that fufu is the superior choice for lucia and manato. is this true
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as must as I want Banyue because of his designs, I might have to skip just to diversify my roster. I'm only investing in like 2-3 agents and my team is fire based.
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>>543967539
Why are wisebros like this
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>>543967539
its one of the recommended f2p friendly builds for Manato
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>>543967018
Open fights with 5th basic to go into Veil/etc. EX+5th Basic followup to make non-purple bar the purple bar again. EX to refresh buff, ult to refresh purple bar.

>>543967147
Nobody can say for certain yet but CCs have noted that Ju Fufu's decible refund actually gets her into trouble sometimes. Activate Ether Veil too early and you end up not being able to use her ultimate in stun before the 30s window to do so runs out. Sort of just an educated guess based on the fact Lycaon is competitive with her currently (Dialyn will at minimum be better than him) and the new boss Sobek is Ice+Phys weak.

>>543967229
Cost absolutely means something in actual practical reality, otherwise we start being allowed to say retarded nonsense without context. Miyabi's best team at low cost is mono-ice, but what you run her with at triple M6R5 dramatically changes lol. A lot of "accepted" M0R1 BiS teams change once you start climbing the cost ladder because not all Mindscapes are created equal. See the Alice/Jane team for example, it's mediocre at M0 but once you pass the M2 mark it becomes insanely strong.

>>543967424
I am not saying anything outrageous or incorrect, it's just the truth. Artful was insanely strong with Trigger because Def shred becomes proportionally much stronger the more you have it. Without it, she has become worse than other options. She's still really good, but she's not BiS. Vivian is sort of better by-default and especially in the current meta where they keep running Anomaly%/Disorder% DA buffs.
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>>543968342
I'm sorry I just wanted an excuse to say and post that..
>>543968559
Ah, awesome. I'll work on that then. Thanks for the info.
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The reason Lighter doesnt work with rupture is because having him be a wingman for Manato on his date with Yidhari would be Miyabi level broken
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Post your best photos from the event!
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>>543969230
Guh... why is Seed like this
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>>543969230
I haven't done the event yet because I can't breeze through it. I have no interest in taking in-game pictures.
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>>543969230
Literally me
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>>543969408
>takes a minute
>two at most
Youre a brainded retard
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>>543969620
I'm referring to all of the event missions not being available, but sure let's go with that.
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>>543969230
My FAT-ASSED wife Seed!
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>>543969767
>wow oh no a minute of my day for the next couple days is busy with fast forwarding through an event
>im gonna get defensive about it
No wonder every single event holds your hand and plays itself for you if people like you are bitching
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>>543969230
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>>543969949
>bitching
Where? I simply said I don't do the events until I can complete everything in one sitting, and that's a problem?
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>>543969408
I do the same, though it's not because I don't like the event. These are usually pretty cute, I just like to binge it all in one sitting. I hate reading ongoing manga and shit for the same reason.
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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>>543970412
I didn't mean to imply I hate the event. It's really cool what some people are able to capture when they put some effort into it.

I just personally have little interest because it's not like I'm about to use them as wallpapers or post them online, so that leaves just grabbing the rewards and moving on.
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>>543970431
Okay Damian
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Your Shifu!

Questions?
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>>543971185
My Shifu is not that flat
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>>543971480
>when i put my 5 inch monster cock in
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>>543971787
>yuzuha's disappointed look
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>Fufu and Lucia's goofy ass facial expressions and looking away from the target
>Yixuan's model not even on scene for 90% of her animations
>Her ult locks the camera
Least photogenic team award
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>>543972238
The only thing you need to be doing is focusing the camera on fufu's ass.
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>overly long and emotional flashback about Yidhari's past
>spend 90% of it just walking around watching her tits jiggle

Suck her parents died or sumthin. Also, how do you spell her name?

id--hari?
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Good evening I hate thirens
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>>543972760
yid haram, she’s a jewish muslim
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>>543967685
>radiowave journey x1
Made outdated by Manato's engine.
>electro-lip gloss x5
Made outdated by Weeping Gemini and Fusion Compiler.

>cannon rotor x1
This one is actually good to W5, Its BTFOs Marcato for agents like Seed and S11.

The Gameball R5 is the best engine to use speciically for:
1. Soukaku-Miyabi
2. Lucia-Yixuan
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>>543973164
Cool. Go play a different gacha then.
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So how much worse is Manato's engine for Banyue? I'm not pulling his sig.
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We love thirens here.
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>>543973164
KYS SNITCHYUAN
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>>543973443
>PoV - you're Damian
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plapping belle
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>>543973667
Damian was claimed by Zhao
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are you guys planning on getting ban? i wanted him but i also want
>dialing
>bunny
>idols
>probably voidhunter
what do bros... what do
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>>543973926
>are you guys planning on getting ban?
Nope, the hohmos ruined everything about him.
It's in my interest that he fails so mioyo makes less agents like ihm, so th homos flood /zzz/ less with gay porn.
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>>543974065
I love him so much.

>>543973926
I do, saving from Yid and Dailyn's banners should be enough to grab him.
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>>543973926
My plan right now throwing a coinflip at him then win or lose move to saving for another go at Lighter
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Bit of a gameplay-fag and Lucia's press E and leave field kinda sucks. Am I bricking if I don't throw pulls her way? Was thinking of skipping this whole patch for Dialyn and Banyue but not sure if Banyue is actually any good without Lucia in the first place..
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>>543973926
>are you guys planning on getting ban?
Depends if I want both Ye and Zhao or just one of them. I already have Evelyn + sig so I don't need fire dps.

I don't give a shit about Dialyn.
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>>543973926
He looks like a dickhead and prolly anyone who pulls for him is also a dickhead.
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so the real way to play Yidhari is doing dash charge attack?
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>>543974651
>Evelyn + sig so I don't need fire dps
That's the good thinking you need, if you want yourpolychomes to last well.
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>>543965589
>picrel
Where is this in the game?
>I'm also into furries
Would that be the equivalent in saying "I like colored girls" out loud?
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>>543974561
I mean you could get away with using Panda or Astra i guess, theyre both also just press e and go, Panda even worse than Astra it feels, but Lucia is pretty much designed with supporting ruptures in mind soooo
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>>543974561
Banyue will have Panda if you don't pull Lucia. So it's just a matter of whether or not you're fine using a A-rank over a S-rank.
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>>543974834
Hot Sweety.
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>>543974065
Is that Jack from Beastars?
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>>543974834
Yidhari's loop goes like this

>begin charging hammer
>get to level three
>begin spamming basic attack to do big bonk
Alternatively
>begin charging hammer
>press special button to parry enemy attack getting you to insta level 3
>press basic attack
>do big bonk, or if you have ex special it will insta perform bigger bonk with tentacle slam
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>>543974862
Lycoan agent story
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>>543974862
>Would that be the equivalent in saying "I like colored girls" out loud?
naa, saying that to Lycoan is like saying “i like men in blackface” or “i like guys who pretend to be wolves”
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Did the design team go on vacation ever since 2.2? I didn’t even mind too much seed and orphie but god all of the upcoming agents are so ugly or with such a mediocre design I have to hope the reruns are good. Seriously, Banyue and Dialyn are two of the worst designs in the game.
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lucia is buffing the fuck out of shifu. im 100% certain i wouldnt have fully cleared this shitfu 7 twins without her

but it feels really soulless. i dont like this broad at all
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>>543975681
Trying a bit too hard, but I'll bite. What exactly makes them bad designs?
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>>543975759
Shifu doesnt feel fun at all to play. She lacks impact and feels gimmicky
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>>543975863
I like shifu
i dont like lucia
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>>543973926
Maybe. Depends on how Shunguang and Zhao are looking. Even if I don't get Banyue I'll probably spend a little money during his banner to support him.
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>>543974239
>saving from Yid and Dailyn's banners
is it confirmed that he'll be the second banner next patch?
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>>543962762
I wish they would add this to ps5
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so does the
Investigator Training Course refresh? i don't really see the value of doing it for 10 polys each.

even the 'courses' that level up your agents is lame since the material needed isn't that rare
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I'm still mad I lost her 50/50
Twice
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>>543976001
Banners are dripped in order. Unless they announce something different during the live stream, Banyue is safely the second banner.
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>>543974834
sweety needs to be an agent i dont care give her some bullshit story or shes actually training her ether aptitude. god damn
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>>543975681
thats what happens when you pander to waifufags, the designs are made to max out sales
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>>543975839
I just think they are pushing their luck by releasing something so niche as S-rank, I can’t phantom people spending money to roll for him. It’s not my thing and I just don’t see how someone would rather pull for him than for any of all the other characters.
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>Enter Yidhari dream
>"Hold on...why is she dreaming about the Outer Ring"?

BECAUSE WE'RE CHEAP AND NEED TO RECYCLE THE COMBAT AREA
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>>543976264
As much as I’d like to agree, how are the two characters I listed trying to pander to waifufags? They are straight up ugly, Dialyn has a terrible design, she looks like somebody’s oc and Banyue is mediocre and shouldn’t be S-rank
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>>543976264
>we are increasing our sales by chinawankmaxxing despite most of our revenue coming from outside china
?????
the idols will make max sales. this shit won’t.
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>>543976275
Dudes kind of like a love letter to fighting game with his motion inputs, and he punches monsters
Aw a fighting game player I feel obligated to roll for him
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>>543976448
>the idols will make max sales
lmao hahaha
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I FUCKING HATE THE TWINS, you're telling me I have to kill it 3 times in Withered Domain?!!?
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>>543976264
Theyre not even good pandering designs. Who the fuck asked for three Yixuan clones

>>543976448
>most of our revenue coming from outside china
lol
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>>543976025
You can bookmark the Procy tools here:
https://act.hoyolab.com/zzz/gt/character-builder-h/index.html?channel_id=1

It's also very neat for screenshooting your Discs.
If you just want to brag.
Or if you need disc advice.
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>>543976275
They're releasing a risky niche design just before the main draw of the patch, it makes sense.
Well Dialyn is not that risky and definitely got a lot of work, Banyue's okay and a big enlightened robot kung fu master lion which isn't that uncommon.
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>>543975681
ZZZ is so generous they made a skip patch for you (or several if you hate ye!)
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>>543976275
>I can't fathom people having different aesthetic tastes than me
...Is this really where we're at? All this talk about character design is just a veiled excuse to doompost about sales?

Let fucking Hoyo worry about that. This obsession with the game's revenue is not productive.
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>>543976635
2.2 and 2.3 are just season two's 1.6/1.7
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>>543976635
It’s nice to be able to save but at the same time rolling for a character keeps me motivated to play. Hopefully sanby will rerun next to them
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>>543974065
Imagine killing Manato and delivering his corpse to his little siblings
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Her problem?
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>>543976756
You sound like a bad person.
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>>543976573
ok but how many different versions of waifu/loli with big tits who is now ___ hair color or a furry

they won't ever do something different because chinese players just want waifus. you wont see designs that stray from the above besides the occasional husbando
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>>543976528
appealing to vtubergooners and cunnypedos is literally money printing.
>>543976573
it’s true though. Over 50% of GI’s revenue came from outside of China in 2024. Total outside of China revenue is over $5b. Google exists, use it.
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what set does trigger use? i haven't updated mine since release
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which part of patch can you play yidhari in?

main story?
her side event?
lucia story's side combat missions?
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>>543975863
>She lacks impact
Her Hold-EX parry is th most impactfful thing in the game.
It even features the Touma-punch sound efffect.
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They literally try to motivate you to roll for the newest horribly designed characters by “gifting” you the Vivian cosmetic. Because let’s be for real, if it wasn’t for that the total revenue of Banyue/Dialyn would be 53$ max
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>>543976928
I mean i hate to agree but yeah
They shittified Lucia from perfect pear to generic titty bitch, but unfortunately in Gachas, at least chink ones, that's that nature of the beast

>>543977052
Every stunner uses king of the summit disks
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>>543977009
>GI
lol so you don’t have proof then
Retard
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>>543977290
>Every stunner uses king
There are exceptions for Dual stun teams
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If I play Hugo with Lighter/Lycaon should I build them with king of the summit or shockstar disco? I thought the whole point of this team was to stun as fast as possible
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this kills the retards too stupid to use a search engine
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>>543976406
I think revisiting old areas is better than Chinkland part 4
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>>543977461
Thats fair
I suppose i was being generic
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>>543977489
>he thinks i know how to read this!!
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I think my mouse is about to die because of this game
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>>543977489
>literally made up numbers
lol
just lol
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>>543977672
My mind went to the animal and I thought you had a pet mouse that was about to keel over.
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I want to see Orphie try and put her hood on.
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Orphies pink lips...
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>>543976528
Every time horsecuck tries posting doomjeet garbage you can always bait him into revealing himself by making him defend delusionslop. I love it.
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>>543977792
>made up numbers
provide your evidence.
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Why does Yuzuha have a nazi squirrel?
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>Banyue and Dialyn are getting Hollow Zero gear
>Obol got nothing
the devs really have a hate-boner for Obol Squad
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>>543978365
hate would imply they did it deliberately
i honestly believe they fucked up obol by being completely clueless
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>>543978293
It's a raccoon
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So i need a bit of advice
I rolled for Lucia and lost the 50/50, ima try and get her before she leaves but who knows maybe I wont be so lucky

If I dont get her, who can I put in the Yidhari team? I know panda is the usual answer but he's with shifu. I was gonna use Lycaon as her stunner. Maybe Astra? Nicole?
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>>543978215
No one here works in Hoyo's sales department. Any "evidence" posted here is completely third party and as such unreliable.
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>>543977470
i use Proto Punk + King of the Summit with 2pc Impact%
Protopunk for 15% team dmg on DA
King of the Summit for 30% c. dmg
it's better to use a set with party buffs vs shockstar since shockstar's stun buffs are pretty meh compared to increasing damage for hugo
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>>543978556
you know Mihoyo publishes financial reports, right?
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>>543977489
>something something AI prediction model
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>>543978548
Astra is the best of the worst.
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>>543978293
It's a Tanuki and hes Japanese.
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>>543978812
Yes, and?
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>>543978537
dog
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>>543977470
Shockstar is only good if the 20% bonus can give you an additional stun. If you can't get an extra stun from it then it's wasted and you'd be better off with a different set. So generally speaking, KotS is better. Even in a double stun team you usually will want something else like Proto Punk or even Astral over Shockstar.
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>faction is called 'spooky shack'
>only remotely 'spooky' one is yuzuha
what's the deal?
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Dayuuuuuum
Shifu clears a 100 stamina HIA in just 10 seconds.
Admittedly mine is fairly top tuned, so I understand why they are melting.
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>>543979443
Manato is Scooby Doo
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>>543979443
There's nothing spooky about Yuzuha. And the members being spooky isn't the point of the forum.
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>>543979632
She does a little 'ooooooooh, spooky' hand motion during her ult. But yeah that's about it. At least it's something though.
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>>543979443
AI generated faction concept
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>>543978932
so you can just read the reports and see where their revenue comes from
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>>543980567
So why not post the report?
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>>543944517
love this video
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How do some of you struggle so much with dennies? Everytime they do a x2 event i farm dennies, is easy millions. Did you guys just level up all the A ranks or somethin?
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>>543956798
>SOVL vs chinese (soulless)
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>>543980785
(They're both Chinese, anon)
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>>543953175
we just met her man
pull back a little.
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>>543980785
>he doesn't know about Chinese mibibi
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Zhao is probably a Defense unit, yeah?
Ice/Rupture will have just had Yidhari
Latest Ice/Attack is Hugo and he'll be due for a rerun
Ice/Anomaly is Miyabi who is still relevant
They won't do Ice/Stunner as Dialyn will have just came out
And Ice/Support just seems really unlikely given her weapon, which leaves Ice/Defense.

But the question is, what exactly IS a Defense unit? There's a severe lack of them and Caesar is our only example of an S-Rank one, so it's hard to tell what exactly they do differently or should do to stand out. Should Defense units always be on field and help attack/pull enemy attention, offering some kind of parry replacement as you wouldn't be able to proc them yourself?
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>>543981146
troony
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>>543961008
did I miss something in his story
I mean I don't have him so if its in his trust then I've never seen it but still.
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>>543981162
>what exactly IS a Defense unit?
Not even Hoyo knows.
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>>543980941
Her name is hoshimimimi mibibi, not chang bingchilling
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>>543981219
>did I miss something in his story
You probably shouldn't have skipped it. Or speedread it.
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M0W1 Lucia/M2W1 Yidhari or M1W1 Lucia and M1W1 Yidhari? I'm not sure how good the automatic adrenaline increase on Yidhari will be, but her M1 seems really good because of the way cheaper EXs.
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>>543955574
would've unironically saved the proxy's reputation.
I know its only our job to direct them through hollows and everything but the cunning hares really were a top tier focal point for the game that set the tone, along with NEPS.
idk, that slight cops and robbers aesthetic mixed with random gigs and requests was so potent to me in a way that HAND and the HIA just don't match.
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>>543981162
>Zhao is probably a Defense unit, yeah?
Who fucking knows. She could be ice anomaly and work with Miyabi. Or maybe her weapon isn't covered in ice, it's covered in Porcelume and she'll be an Ether attacker. We haven't had one since Zhu.
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Please help... I have no clue how to play shishou at all and i do is just mash ex special and basic, mash double ults when they're available and do the weird golden pool thing after the gold ult
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>>543981416
I'm a day 1 player, its just been a long time and my memory kinda sucks. At this point, all I remember is that he's the current champion and fights good and knows billy's true power level.
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>>543955574
>How would life change?
Hunting for discount coupons.
Finding someone's lost cat in the local hollow.
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>>543981624
Special effects could make the sword glow purple yeah
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i hate doing the exploration missions and whenever you can hear the agents saying the same lines over and over again
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>>543981162
>Should Defense units always be on field and help attack/pull enemy attention
If there was a constant buff for attacking an enemy's back then yeah that would be a good rework idea.
If not that then maybe parry replenishment on assist-follow ups or being able to parry without swapping.
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>>543981868
Why did they stop making these? I thought they were really cool.
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need more chad men in this game
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>>543981968
Need homos to kill themselves.
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>>543981735
sounds a million times better than what we're doing right now.
Honestly its like spider-man when he's just starting out VS spider-man going up against world ending threats every week just cause.
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>log into global beta
>Ye Shiyuen is a boss and he's riding a fucking horse.
Hilarious.
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>>543981924
Still timing the parries but the defense unit using their follow up attack automatically and letting your DPS remain on field seems pretty nifty actually.
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>>543982095
theres no way
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>>543982095
Proof?
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>>543981965
>>543981868
they just did this with vivian's swimsuit skin
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>>543982028
nah im good
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>>543981162
the 2 concepts I think are most likely are Ice/Defense or Ice/Anomaly as a sub-DPS like Vivian or Burnice.
>what exactly IS a Defense unit?
It's a dumping ground for designs Hoyo doesn't believe will visially fit with the class they actually should be. Ben is the only exception, as he's the only true Defense agent.
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>>543982281
Vivian isn't using a different weapon, so who cares?
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>>543980690
remember how back in school they didn’t just give you the answer, they gave you breadcrumbs and you had to follow them and get to the answer yourself?
that’s why.
you won’t learn anything otherwise.
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>>543982542
Whatever you say, bro.
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>>543981635
>and i do is just mash ex special
I'ts not just for masing.

You can Hold the ex button as well.
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>>543981162
>Zhao is probably a Defense unit, yeah?
It will be really funny if so because Defenders are mostly terrible although there is something of a use case for Seth and Pan and at least Caesar does something. Probably.
I think Manato is a pretty good example of what a Defender could be, but of course he's not in that class.
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>>543982527
ah, you're still the dumb nigger who cant read and expects everything to be the same format.
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>>543983008
>explaining how the weapon looks, works, and is used
vs
>explaining the new look
Totally the same thing.
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>>543981162
>All Defense units should be able to block Red flashes
>All Defense units should have a manual block (through either skill or attack, like Seth or Yuzuha)
>All Defense units should cause an effect upon blocking (damage, buffs, etc.)
>All Defense units need to scale off of Defense the same way Anomaly units do off of Anomaly
That's it. That's all you have to do to fix the class. Throw some spice and extra mechanics here and there, but with this you'd have a solid core for some team builds I'm sure.
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>>543983409
I would throw in that their ultimates should refill your perfect assist charges.
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>>543983702
I meant fully refill.
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>>543983409
wrong just make cute defense agent units. thats it
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>>543984012
Ben is cute
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>>543981162
She is an attacker. I don't know why people need to jump through hoops when it's pretty obvious
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>>543984050
Correct
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>>543981162
This is assuming that she is ice.
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niggers niggers hate niggers fuck niggers fuck nigger players kill vince the wooden chinese nigger fuck niggers remove ben playing niggers ban all wise playing faggot niggers expel manato homoposting niggers delete seed loving niggers suspend all panda wokniggers perma wuwaniggers FUCK NIGGERS I HATE NIGGERS
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>>543984849
neck hurts
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>>543984735
Infographic left out the part where she looks ridiculous
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which element is the most useful? Ice?
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>>543984735
You might be onto something with that moon crystal theory.

>Changesite-(Y) is a new lunar mineral discovered by Chinese scientists from samples collected by the Chang'e-5 mission. It is a phosphate mineral found in basalt particles on the moon and is named after the Chinese moon goddess, Chang'e
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>>543985975
Ether
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Tell me Manato sucks so I can justify pulling Yidhari. He is my only rupture and I don't really want Banyue or Shifu. Feels like the whole game is more and more aggressively anti-ice and she isn't going to be very useful in the long run though.
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>>543984849
hmmmm based???
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>>543986091
He'll be powercrept as a Fire Rupture but he does okay if you have enough support behind him
If you don't want to build him that's fine
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Zhao is Ice Attack
Ye is Physical Rupture
Ye Brother is New Element Defense
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>>543986091
He's good, but as an A-rank he needs his mindscapes. You can just grab Yid, though.
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Divegrass poll is live. As usual it'll run for a few days and I'll put the results in a pastebin.
https://forms.gle/z43TAZ76LcHnAQWc8
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>>543984849
>hates niggers
>plays nigger game
make it make sense
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>>543984849
chad shit
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>>543943478
No, wrong, bad.
Yiidhari is a character built around interacting with the enemy and doing parries will give her big damage, the spin is what puts her in the mode to do this while the damage from the spin itself is negligible and using you special outside of the spin is useless.
When the spin connects you can attack the first time waiting is a dps loss. When you connect with the enemy and they are attacking you can hit skill to parry and the follow up will be an even bigger attack.
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>>543986321
>>543986383
I do want to build him, the problem is that I really want Yidhari but I don't think I can justify pulling her. I think I'm just going to do it anyway though
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>>543986550
>n word game
he already said fuck wuwa
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is it true the hyped up chisa wuwa girl is a healer? lol
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>>543986753
Wuwa is a hwite game, hwite boi!
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>>543986753
wuwa is an f-word game. the n-words
s play zzz.
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Are we ready to admit that despite all the bad 2.x designs that Yuzuha and Alice would fit just fine in 1.x
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>>543986325
Zhao has the aura of a mom too.
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>>543986091
his gameplay kinda clunky i dont like the animation lock
stun rotation is easy enough
manato with cope engine is middle at best
need premium team (fufu lucia) if you use f2p team its serviceable but not great
i say manato is better than s11, but i hear s11 gonna get buff but i suspect s11 gonna need orphie to be good, because obol squad really need each other to work other than trigger
you decide
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I'm tempted to put Steam Oven on Anton so I can have better EX Special upkeep, even though it probably doesn't make sense.
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>>543987294
>Vivian drinks beer and eats cheerios
kinda based?
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>>543987447
people forget that vivian dropped out of highschool to be hugo's apprentice and pay for stuff with part time jobs... but her friend network is underaged girls
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>>543987409
You're better off using his sig at that point. Though his sig is quite bad, if you wanted to salvage him you had to pick up Seed's WEngine for him.
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>>543987409
>so I can have better EX Special upkeep
That won't happen.

His best cope engine is Brimstone, or Starlight, or Rotor Cannn, or Marcato.
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>>543987792
If only I could pull his sig :(
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>>543953138
Qingyi is great and outperforms Ju Fufu for Yi Xuan on Miasma Priest via being able to get both stuns in before Miasma phase. Outside of this, Ju Fufu is a little better but just to give you some scale for how good Qingyi is even without her additional ability. Ju Fufu=>Qingyi>=Trigger>using Pan double support>the rest.
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>>543987365
S11/+Lighter+Orphie is okay but I've found my M0R1 Orphie does not do much if at all better than my M0R0 Yuzuha in the same slot. Orphie in general feels a little worse than more true-blue supports if you play her with a co-carry who isn't also buffing her in return or making use of her additional ability/extending the duration of Zeroed In.
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>>543984849
Billy (full power) said this
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>>543987110
Ju Fufu and Orphie too.
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I keep seeing most likely outdated information saying Grace/Rina is the best team for Anton, is that really a good team? I don't even have Grace but I don't think he would be effective without a stunner. I'm thinking Trigger/Rina.
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>>543988573
Billy at least in EN sounds too goofy I don't get how they'll sell his super powerful secret potential power or whatever unless it's meme shit like a starlight knight alt
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>>543988016
>Qingyi outperforms Ju Fufu
No she doesn't wtf, build your Fufu.
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>>543988703
https://youtu.be/K4pWRqzwshI?si=iksLT9U91A00eq6V
It's pretty bad. Anton's only real niche is abusing Rapid Aid (buffs Quick Assist) in DA because his Quick Assist is really strong and works regardless of his energy level.

He's super hard-tied to Astra+1. Astra Nicole is his F2P traditional wheelchair, but Astra+Trigger or any other character is also fine.
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>>543988703
Definitely out dated.
Grace would function best in a disorder comp.
But honestly the game had a lot of powercreep between now and release so its hard to justify building grace.
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>>543988851
Astra second rerun pls
So is Grace just entirely useless altogether?
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>>543988790
https://youtu.be/8KdviSANdZA?si=gKSRhLoYH7CmYGIi
Qingyi does actually do better in this specific niche, there's a reason you see a lot of Qingyi on Miasma Priest. Ju Fufu is stronger for most content but Qingyi has this exact thing over her, at least until you get enough Mindscapes/WEngine and etc on her to just brute force it.
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>Didn't get Lucia on the 50/50
Well am I bricked now? Have Yi, have Manato, and planning to get Banyue. I also have M6 Pan right now so at least I have a support. Was thinking of skipping Yid if I got Lucia but with that shit lost maybe I'll get her and pray for a rerun in a few months.
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>>543989064
Anyone stunner will kill with Lucia in this DA it's really easy with the ether veil buff.
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>>543989140
Your Pan is gonna get ABUSED. But yeah, you're kinda stuck only running one Rupture team at a time if you don't have her.
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>>543988461
i figure hoyo gonna get lazy they gonna add aftershock for s11
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>>543989205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zownuRCHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2PY0x2nzuk

It's not just this cycle, Qingyi has been doing better for a while now. M0R0 Ju Fufu just lacks the burst to get both stuns in before Miasma shield without sig/Mindscapes. With them, she obviously scales better than Qingyi though. It's kind of the same reason why double stunner does so well in general for Yi Xuan on Miasma Priest. You won't see a lot of M0R0 Ju Fufu 65ks (there are some, I know yoji posted one) but there are many many Qingyi ones.
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quit playin czn and get back here you fucks! we actually got content this patch...
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>>543990119
She can get both stuns, her engine isn't even good for it's daze. I don't think you know how to build her.
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>>543990875
the new content this patch is the most dogshit gameplay they ever released lol. the five team game mode was fun tough, but the story was filler and the amount of overall content was average, so a pretty mid patch all in all.
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Would you support Caesar getting an education?
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>>543990875
Nah, I prefer slower discussions. Notice how sharply bait and dogshit posts dropped off lately?
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>>543991247
Anby!!
<3
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>>543991247
>>543990875
All the shitposters fucked back off to /hsrg/ and probably will be there for a while when 3.7 launches
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>>543980763
retard
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>>543991692
I dont get it
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>>543991692
Ben
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>>543991692
Qingyi
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>>543991779
havacado.
read it out loud.
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>>543991171
>most dogshit gameplay ever it was fun though actually it was just mid
You can't even hold the same opinion for 5 seconds
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Nice game zzzookes.
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yup thats what i call a soul clear
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>>543991045
Are you interested in having a discussion or are you going to just keep chimping out because you think I'm insulting your waifu? Let the record show my original post already said
>Outside of this (Miasma Priest), Ju Fufu is better
so you can un-twist your panties already. There's a lot of factors that come together to make M0R0 Qingyi better in this specific fight, you can get offended if you want but personally I just think it's cool Qingyi still has something she's good at when most people think she's 100% dead and useless.
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>Jester in new endgame mode is weak to physical
>attack gets +20% dmg and +20 physical damage
>still can't S Rank with Nekomata
Fucking useless cunt. Did it with Harumasa 1st try and I suck with him.
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>>543992607
Thanks. We like boy butt here.
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>>543992758
You just need her mindscapes bro. And her engine. And then multiple copies of that. Then she'll reach the performance of a mid build limited DPS
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I like yidhari
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>>543992929
so is my wife
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>>543992929
Her thighs and ass are massive
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>>543991692
Zhao would. That or bond level one liners.
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>>543992683
Difficult but not impossible her engine is not her best option for maximum daze so that line of critique is false.
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>>543993170
Looks like you haven't been milking her properly.
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>>543957476
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_-IC0JrVc
BillyGODS still clearing the game with EASE
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>>543992361
I meant the retarded enemy gameplay from yidhari's event
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My wife is so beautiful
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How are they going to make a Physical Attack W-Engine that is better than Nekomata's?
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>>543993748
She is
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Belle raped me with her extra tight pussy… it was miserable because I’m wise and I’m a faggot..
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Yidoodle
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>>543994839
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>dogshit
>slop
>flop
>lost...
>aids
>worms
>wuwon
>zookeks
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>>543994864
this is how i live
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>>543993350
Her WEngine is super relevant in the context of the exact scenario though. https://youtu.be/8KdviSANdZA?si=omvRLdODlyr5bdKm&t=65

It's this exact sequence here, you have to dump resources after stun ,before and after the Defensive Assist section. Qingyi excels at this because of her ult, being able to EBA Ult EBA gives her really bursty daze output. It's not that Ju Fufu strictly can't do it, it's that building M0R0 Ju Fufu to have enough daze to do it while competing with Qingyi's stun damage buff is hard. You either roll her sig or spend a lot of time fishing for idyllic Defensive Assist patterns early to make sure Ju Fufu can ult twice before and after the Defensive Assist minigame. You can see this in yoji's run here https://youtu.be/gNnql9QdGRw?si=pDZF4MC1iCzN6eyt&t=67

This is kind of what I meant about the stars aligning for Qingyi though, Qingyi's damage buffs have always been very strong. The actual problem with Qingyi is fieldtime, and it's inversely the primary strength of Ju Fufu - she lets Yi Xuan on-field. You'll never see Qingyi keep up with Ju Fufu (much less do better than her) on any other fight where Yi Xuan/Ju Fufu get to play more traditionally. You just spend too much time doing low-value actions as Qingyi for her to be better. Miasma Priest is just a perfect storm where the constant Defensive Assist minigames means Qingyi gets to skirt around what is her biggest weakness while still leveraging her primary strength (massive stun damage). This is the same reason why double stunner does surprisingly well for YX on this fight (ie even Qingyi+Ju Fufu is really strong), you get to play them like they're supports (most stunners have good buffs) without any of the normal drawbacks that come with double stunner.

Anyways I hope this didn't come across as me shitting on Ju Fufu, I just think Qingyi is underrated and her performance on this fight is a really relevant anecdote for proving why people shouldn't overlook her.



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