wrath and glory editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>543894304>Latest News/Updates:Celebrating 10 years of Tide with New Content and a New Class:https://www.playdarktide.com/news/celebrating-10-years-of-tide-with-new-content-and-a-new-classhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaZmDtfPRsDarktide:Hotfix #80 - 1.9.4 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-80-1-9-4-patch-notes/113765Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.7.2https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401>Acknowledged but not really discussedReady Or NotStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2SCP: 5KGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Helldivers 2Space Marine 2Remnant 2Payday 3Back4BloodDeep Rock GalacticEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Outlast TrialsThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon Bladesand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
*farts*
Bound by doody
*sharts*
You're going to have to accept that the next Darktide class will be Hive Ganger. Best start speculating about their class skills now.
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>544090736What purpose do the drill tits serve?
>>544090784intimidation
>>544090784molestation deterrent
>>544090736Anyone who thinks it will be anything other than either a member of the Cult Mechanicus or specifically a Skitarius is genuinely retarded.
>>544091237Soemone should be screencapping all posts that claim it's going to be X or Y just so the announcement day can be filled with collages of cope claiming X or Y and being cocky about it.
>>544091374It's going to be a space marine
It's going to be shit.
>>544091837Why would they add a nurgle cultist class?
>>544090784Poking out the eyes of chuds who look at her boobs
enjoying the latest rat news ?
>>544090736That's cool though. I like Necromunda. Would also accept servitor.
does darktide have any funny banter between characters like ratclick or does the game take itself way too seriously
>>544094328Of course it does
>>544090736been there done that
>>544094328It has lots of banter but you never actually hear it ingame because there is no downtime like Vermintide
>>544094328It has some. But each voice only has unique callbacks with two other voices (sometimes three if the VA did both voices), the rest are class generic.
>>544089901ever notice how much darktide tie-in stuff GW pushes?action figures, card games, boxed games, RPG expansionsits forced
>>544096212GW will see one semi-successful 40k game and ride it into the dirtbut a videogame of a setting that isnt 40k? lol fuck off, you barely get mentioned and they act like you dont exist 90% of the time because you're not 40k
I AM A WARRIOR!>I AM A WARRIOR!I AM A WARRIOR!>I AM A WARRIOR!I AM A WARRIOR!>I AM A WARRIOR!
>>544094328Don't worry. Darktide doesn't have any r*ddit quibs like vermintide
>>544096725>No Warrior class
>>544097797I look like that
>>544097797Crit rashad charge zealot is the warrior class
Just walked up to dukane and beat the shit out of her in front of everyone and then when she was unconscious on the ground I pulled down her pants, and pressing my buttcheeks against her groin I took a very fat yet clean and healthy shit inside her pussy. Then I pulled her pants back up and buckled her belt for her, gave her some water, and helped her back to her feet where she was then led to the ships medicae center
Is the ideal zealot the one where you have to be wounded all the time?
>>544097972make love to me
>>544097972Introduce me then
>>544098835No, this is.
>>544099903i honestly miss it because throwing knives are a lot more fun than the other grenades but stunstorms are just so strong
>the end of the last threaddid verminchads really give up the general to a bunch of /k/ wannabe military/enlisted washout cucks?
The new class is a Vox Operator who brokers with command to call in supplies during missions. It has roughly the same overlap with Veteran as any other class. They'll also reintroduce the Scab Vox Operator with redesigned AI and make a big deal about how much work had to go into their redesign and the stealth-lite Operation's detection/escalation system.source: My third eye opened after seeing a dog Arbitrator go down in a Malice mission I was running with a friend.
>>544090736its funny that despite their efforts to be grody, they've only achieved a bland sort of ugliness that would not at all lend itself to a proper ganger aesthetici doubt they're allowed to show enough skin to make any character feel like a ganger
>have to queue the event because retards are recovering
>>544101269Stupid
I tried to make a crit primary attack electro staff build and gotta say scriers gaze cristalline will combo is the most retarded thing I did
>>544103291You don't need scriers gaysJust reduce the cd so much that you can press F whenever you're about to explode and shoot forever
>>544101269Profoundly dogshit
>>544103470you mean I don't need cristalline will
>>544103736That's what i meant
How do I do Havoc's as a bless up Fanatic? Never get a team that can do anything higher than 29. What's the havoc builds for fanatic?Also if anyone wants to playFriendcode is 2135591976I only play aurics and attempt havocs.
>>544104397You mean chorus zealot?
>>544103125>>544103719Hm, okay. How about a rat tail as an event reward for Warhammer Day?
>>544104627Much smarter
>>544104526Yes the one with the prayer.
>>544104680
>Most of the decent players left are farming Havocs>it's a fucking boring mode
>>544105192Then just carry aurics
>quickplay starts>zealot and ogryn are roleplaying in chat>leave
>>544104376It's not so easy to make scriers permanent since the psykinetic's aura nerf, you're always like 1.5 seconds short. Idk maybe you need to spend more time in charging phase, but primary attack takes so much peril it's basically over in 4 seconds.
>be me>ogryn>roleplaying with zealot rando>veteran player with stick up his ass suddenly leaveswtf bros?
>stub no longer hits>bolt no longer hitsI need more big irons
>>544106194Arbites shot pistol
>>544101269That would be gay as hell
What is the reward for high difficulty content? Serious question. Do you get cool cosmetics or something
>>544098121That's literally me
>>544106252If only I could get that as a standalone on other classes
>>544094328Media that doesn't take itself seriously doesn't deserve to exist. Levity, whimsiness, and light-heartedness are traits reserved for mass-appeal slop.
>>544105987Nice try, I was a psyker
>>544106372fun
destroy bros?
>>544106372a sense of satisfaction
>>544089901>darktide TTPholy shit when was this a thing? it looks fun
>>544107073Feb this year
>>544106998do you really care about this shit event?
>banned 15 times because i keep calling random anons jeets>mfw the jannies think i won't keep doing it until this general is dead for good
>>544107361You will die in a retirement home getting raped by them
>>544108642ok rajatevesh
>>54410647540k strikes just the right balance honestly
>>544106475I disagree, but when it permeates the fabric of your fictional universe it really fucking ruins it. For example, the infantilization of The Lord of the Rings series completely ruined it for me
>>544106475
>>544106998STOP THE COUNT!
man i love being a dagger zealot>ermm daggersissy... your hordeclear?Easy. I press "F" and then let everyone else deal with it :) or I simply press "G" to pull out my immolation grenades
>>544106475i said "way too seriously", as it believing you punch above your weight class when you dont. what you described is the complete opposite of the spectrum>>544097760what does being r*ddit mean?
>>544109432Making everything a joke isn't always the best way to have fun. I never understood the idea that seriousness and fun have an adversarial relationship
>>544109546It's a game. It's entertainment. Get over yourself.
>>544109546Sure but you started off by denigrating whimsy fun (that I enjoy occasionally).
Maybe it's just because I haven't risen to the highest levels of difficulty yet, but to me it seems like hordes don't really matter. I've never been in a situation where I felt like horde enemies are a threat. I've literally never once seen a person go down because they were swarmed by horde mobs. The only threat I see coming from them is that they obscure your vision and get in the way of killing things are actually threats, and even then the effect seems pretty minor
>>544109950What difficulty are you up to?
>>544109943That wasn't me >>544109749What if the way I find entertainment is putting serious effort into something
Any good audiobook recommendation?
>>544110082Damnation
Why does darktide dominate this thread if helldivers and such are more popular
>>544110313because helldivers got his own general
Can you still cheese the auric mission completions without dying by leaving the game? I'm trying to farm out as many penances as possible and those ones seem to be the absolute worst because you need to rely on your teammates to not be mouth breathers.
>>544110313All the actually alive coop games have their own threads, darktide is just the most popular unpopular game.
>>544110313Helldivers went off to it's own general and it became a bunch of weird larpers.>>544110441Such as? Even dwarf game general died and they can't even be arsed to talk about it here more than once a week.
>>544110112that one is very gooid
>>544110440No and you don't need to
Tide games are certified /vg/ /coopg/ger is why. Blame KF3 and PD3 sucking donkey dick.
I think Novitiate would be a cool classBut it would basically be ZealotDialogue could be fun thoughJust came to meSkitarii class
>>544110591/sm2g/For some reason
>>544110702Just finished it and Agent of the Throne
>>544111479What? I wouldn't even consider that a coop game when that mode is completely tacked on, like the PvP. But maybe it's better off over there with the franchise overlap and abysmal gameplay.
>>544106280It would be a Fatshark Seal of Quality moment for sure, the real joke is that it's at all conceivable.
>>544112379It started tacked on but it's clearly the game's primary draw and has more content than the campaign. >>544109950Both Tide games train you badly on purpose, as a joke. The game doesn't start until Cata/Auric.
>>544111729ive listened to about 150 or so 40k sloppa novels >hh books (btw the series is numbered but non-linear except for the first four or so)horus rising, false gods, galaxy in flames, know no fear, fear to tread, first heretic, unremembered empire, master of mankind are all solid>gaunt's ghostsevery single book is a minimum B tier. abnormally enjoyable imperial guard story. i own each physical omnibus and have re-read them a total of about 7 times.>inquisitor serieseisenhorn tetralogy, ravenor trilogy, and the bequin duology are arguably the best 40k books period, this will be especially true whenever the last bequin book "pandaemonium" drops which will probably be the biggest lore shattering novel in the setting's history>dawn of fire seriesavoid, imo. it's like a smaller, shittier version of the horus heresy series but set in the modern area. the first book is readable.there's so many goddamn books that i cant even remember them all. the only ones i really havent even thought about touching are the xenos books. they're typically very bad and only the necron books are of even middling quality, but i hate comedy so i wont finish them. same goes for ciaphas cain. anything that makes me laugh gets dumpstered.
>>544106372Havoc 25 has a cool legs cosmetic and you get a helmet and chest item for helping people in their Havoc games. Fatshark said anyone who plays H25+ more than once is gay and autistic and deserves nothing other than a slow death by boiling.
>>544114207>>hh booksCurrently on Silent War now collecting all the HH books physically>eisenhorn tetralogy, ravenor trilogy, and the bequin duologyI'll add these and the Skitarii audiobook, the Black Legion audio drama was okay, Alpha Legion just being inside the Vengeful Spirit the whole time after Terra was kinda dumb
i wanna plap kerillian
>>544114526the various chapter dramas of 40k are so fucking gay, no wonder HH sells like shit
>>544114629to be honest, some of them just feel unnecessary, but I did like Damnation of Phythos
>>544114751i think i'm just bitter that so many of their lynchpin features boil down to "uh oh we have a huge secret we must hide from the rest of imperium bros" or "our curse/mutation consumes us :("
>>544114918Makes me wonder how they're going to handle the Scouring
>>544115119once the show drops and is inevitably about gay ultramarine shit, GW will forget the other chapters even exist
I'm so tired of ultramarines
>>544115470It's my favorite color!
>>544115398I'm just waiting on the Armored Core Titan gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np0KCYTHbMw
>>544115848That image goes hard
>all welcome 11-20 havoc>request with 32 clear>get deniedI'm so over havoc
>>544115958*Everyone except you
>>544115904
>>544116256Vgh so sovlfvl
>>544116054My patience with the "hard mode" of this game is at an all time low. It's near bullshit on 30+ and it's near impossible to play because of all of these faggots who only want a 40 for a carry job.should've just stuck to DRG but sunk cost fallacy. thanks for subscribing to my blog.
See that you do.
>>544116418Do I hear a skill issue?!
>>544116418Skill issue!
>>544116635>>544116704Post solo 40 using only auto pistol with controller firmly up your ass.
are they turning the game around?
>>544116847depends on how fun the 6th class is
They already released the most boring one, I can't believe Fatshark can make a more dull class than the arbeetus.
>>544116847The game is officially turned around and is headed straight to Funtown
>>544117012I like the dog... How is it boring?
>>544117170It's boring because you don't have to micromanage time-sensitive buffs.
>>544108642>starts fantasizing about rapeClockwork.
are trappers coded to target the best player in the lobby or something? i swear im getting netted like 10 times every game
>>544118569genuinely and unironically yes. they also prioritize players with the lowest quantity of time spent in coherency
>>544118569The frontliner is always the most likely to get trapped
>>544118569They always target the player least likely to get help, like the ones separated in the front or back. If all else fails they just default to closest target.
>>544117838its aqshy's fault, her ears bro...
>>544119703aqshy rape time?
>>544117496we already know, only retards are posting the interview cope
>>544118658>they also prioritize players with the lowest quantity of time spent in coherencythis is bullshit btw, you just get trapped because you are the closest to the door he comes out from (either ahead or behind)>>544119063this
>>544117496
>>544118569There's a lot of talk about the AI director being allowed to spawn extra disablers near a player that isn't within coherency, which aligns with my experiences, but I don't remember whether that's actually true. Makes sense though, as The Good Guy, you're most likely the one pushing forward while your retards are hunkering down, too stupid to move while fighting >im getting netted like 10 times every gameI assume that's hyperbole and you mean more like 3-4, but even then, that's too much. Play better. The best way to deal with trappers is to fucking shoot them dead before they have a chance to net. Ogryn gets rock, human classes get bolt pistol or revolver. Rock isn't 100% consistent on trappers iirc, but it does one-shot with some global damage talents. Bolt pistol breakpoints depend on your class, but maniacs is a safe perk to make it easier.If a trapper is too close because she just rounded a corner, your fastest counter is pushing to stagger her.Obviously always dodge and slide 90 degrees perpendicular to the direction the trapper sound came from, but this should only happen after all the previous shit fails for whatever reason.
>>544119910we already know, only retards cope otherwise
>>544120039
>>544119927Bolt pistol or revolver are totally replaceable btw. All of the shotguns swap quickly and are accurate ENOUGH usually, though you might want to aim them. Plasma gun only suffers lag on the primary fire, but swaps fast enough. Zealot knives obviously work. Arbitrator frag grenades work if you're Lone Wolf, and the dog is good at fucking them up if you see them before they get close.
>>544110112What’s the appeal of audiobooks? Do they just have someone reading shit to you? Where can I get some?
>>544120227Yes, it's an audio file of someone reading the book. Can't read when you're commuting to work or doing your daily jog.
>>544120457>commuting to work or doing your daily jogthings you don't do
>>544120457>commuting>jogBro, just buy a car?
>>544115848>>544116256That would single handedly actually make me give those games a try actually
I find it funny that GW just doesnt give fans what they want to be a whore in the imperium or in the 40k universe like everis slaanesh content just that bad?
>>544120227they're very good for doing chores. laundry, cleaning your bathroom, doing dishes, doing yardwork, gardening. also if you paint/play 40k, listening to an audiobook while assembling models or painting is very comfy. i actually listen to audiobooks while playing my smite psyker with the visual specialist cues mod turned on. also works pretty good with boltgun veteran
>>544120948too icky for the advertisers
>>544119906idk if they specifically target them but the director definitely does spawn disablers when a player is alone for too long
>>544121017>roleplaying nazis and other dystopian racists fine and dandy IE everyone except maybe the t'au>being a slut in said worldAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE ADVERTISERS ARE FLEEING
>>544121136absolutely factual
>>544121136Sex is worse than hitler
>>544120948>>544121136What kind of weird AGP shit is this? Go make a princess peach thread on /v/ or something fag.
>>544117496>>544119910
>>544121725KILL THE XENO
>>544121725Rare ESL kino. I need to mating press smug space elves.
>>544122003Elvish as second language
>>544122132Tolkien invented the English language this is why orcs have a british accent
>>544121023How do you even kniw that? Director just constantly spams disablers all the time. How much time do you need to spend in malice to tell that being alone triggers more disablers?
>>544122702It's literally visible in the game-code, retard
>>544122702>>544123025I wasn't sure so I went digging myself. Here's to save you the work.>DEFAULT_DISABLER_TARGET_ALONE_PLAYER_CHANCE https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code
>>544122702im a daggergod zealot (die all the time by myself btw) running around like a decapitated chicken scouring the map hoovering diamantine, grimoires, and also scriptures. i will literally find a book while already carrying one, make a mental note of its location, daggersprint back to the party, pawn the first book off to someone else, then sprint back to the 2nd one and grab it.sometimes i genuinely dont fight anything else the entire map except for the specialists that spawn trying to kill me. very rarely ill even get a mauler, bulwark, or crusher surge all at once but theyre easy enough to take down with my trusty Accatran MG Mk II Heavy Laspistol and catachad mk 6 dagger.
>new Darktide class>new mission set in the "trenches of Atoma"if the new class is cool and the trenches of Atoma is an actual exterior landscape on the surface of a world instead of another series of derelict space station hallways i might actually start playing this game again. Tuesday after next will be a big day.
>>544124420There is literally nothing there and you can't survive thereStop making stupid demands and expectations that are sure to disappoint you
>>544124420>trenches of atomaI have a feeling that this is more metaphorical than anything, and is more referring to a more general "Battlefield of Atoma." This is usually a meme, but I genuinely think it could be 50/50 either way.
If heretics are so pathetic that four guys can kill thousands at once how dod the loyalists lose exactly
>>544126239we're blessed by the emperor
Put me in another 3/4 psykers game (2/3 are useless) game, yeah thanks
>>544127807comin right up!~
>finally finish gooning>boot up darktide>get my teammate killed>he ragequits>a few minutes later I get one shot by a crusher and ragequit Another victory
>>544126239It’s a feat for us, not an anti feats for them. We’re really good and have a walking tank and von Neumann machine on our side.
>Weapon blocks both melee and ranged attacks>+2 Stamina>Block cost reduction -30%>Block efficiency +20%>Block efficiency +12%>Block efficiency +12%>Revive speed +12%
>>544129578The man needs to be put back down.
>>544105192I'll come back to aurics once I get my True Survivor title, then I'll abandon the gamemode forever.
>>544106372>What is the reward for high difficulty content?Ordo dockets and crafting materials you don't need. Since if you're playing H40 at all in a serious way, you're expected to have minmaxxed weapons with best blessings and perks, same with curios.Other than that there is no actual reason to play it.
>>544110798mouthbreathers say otherwise
>>544110440>>544130863You don't need to cheese it, but you do need to have some strategy if you want to avoid the game unfairly cucking you out of the penance.Do not quickplay, and only queue completely fresh missions. If you quickplay or start missions that are already on their way to expire, there is always a non-zero chance of joining the MISSION FAILED screen. Similarly, you might join a barely salvageable mission as the last man standing on 70% corruption with two bosses pounding your ass the second you spawn in.
>>544129578dont forget kinetic deflection which functionally quintuples your effective stamina bar
Are they going to gate the third resource "Mobian Steel" used in the creation of red weapons behind havoc? i might actually quit if that ends up being the case ill never be able to do havoc ever
>>544133135That's an extra two dots for my staff psyker, otherwise I'd want it
>>544133315youre probably using some dumb shit you genuinely dont really need. find the points.
>>544133221>Are they going to gate (...) havoc?Extremely logical, yet highly unlikely, because fagshart toyed with the idea of rewarding aquilas, and ended up scrapping it. The implication of red weapons has much greater game impact than cosmetics, meaning such a resource would be even more coveted. I doubt they'd do this.>ill never be able to do havoc everEven low level havocs reward you with weekly crates, and you only need to play one game per week to claim your rewards at the start of next week. (You) can win havoc 20s, they're piss easy.
>>544133583>you can win havoc 20si dont think you understand i regularly anti-carry malice
>>544133370>instant butthurt because he uses a completely different buildState mandated grass time chuddy
>>544133690Unless you have less than 100 hours in the entire genre and/or aren't even comfortable with the controls, that's really embarrassing and you should strive to do better. Most mistakes can be fixed by wearing headphones, NOT playing some loud distracting music, and listening to audio cues so you know when to block or dodge. The rest is basically just sliding a lot, which is pure muscle memory, and becomes easier if you customize your binds to something comfy.
>>544133370>mad about someone using a different buildgo outside breh
>>544133750
>>544133961You don't understand I NEED to win every havoc 9000 so that I can get more no rewards
>>544133750>>544133961>completely differentonly needing two points means his keystone is middle tree and his ability isnt gaze. any build using any combination of blitz, fart, and bubble with middle tree can sacrifice two points somewhere, no exceptions, guaranteed. now if he was pure left tree thats a valid cum session
>>544134121>only needing two points means his keystone is middle tree and his ability isnt gazeWhat kind of completely retarded statement is that? Every good psyker build takes at least 2-3 nodes in the center. You have fucking 20% damage to ogryns and monsters, and +20% damage at high peril. You take those. That means every good build is 2 points away from Kinetic Deflection.
>>544134237i never take those. theyre useless
>>544134283so are you
>>544134283
>>544134323>>544134329the opportunity cost for a trivial amount of damage vs toughness nodes in tier 1 or peril gen nodes in tier 3 is way too high for my psyker builds
>>544134323I don't think he's baiting, I'm getting falchion-tard vibes.
>>544134768what on veteran? its ok at best. i prefer the power sword
I still haven't tried the falchion but I want to
>>544134917Either cheese at least some of the leveling, or assume it's abysmal dogshit. It doesn't really do enough without good blessings, and is only okay at best with them.If you want to level it naturally, take it to mortis trials and let indulgences carry you.
I guess you could grab kinetic deflection if you take empowered psionics for the extra spicy kinetic flayer procs.
this wont suck at all
>>544135106i thought you're supposed to use the brain explosion thing because it randomly goes off with that one perk where it happens ever 10% of times or something
>>544134917h1 > h2 > l3 singlel1 > (l2 > h3) hordepushfollow is a strike down that leads into singleattacking after pushing (not pushfollow) leads into horde loop
>>544135331What?
>>544135431I don't play psyker but with the brain burst ability there's a sub talent that makes it randomly proc 10% of the time or something
>>544135547I looked it up its kinetic flayer but they changed it to 100% of the time every 12 seconds
>>544135547It goes off whenever you do damage to anything other than horde enemy, with a 12s cooldown before it can happen again.You take it with another perk that causes elite/specialist kills to spread soulflame to nearby enemiesAnd usually a perk that soulflame kills spread up to 4 stacks of soulflame.Soulflame DOT can also trigger the brainburst proc, essentially giving you random elite/specialist kills. Or doubling up on brainburst kills if you manually use it.
>>544135547>>544135737Yeah that's the idea. The middle keystone gives it more damage but I find the cooldown reduction of the left keystone more valuable.
>>544135874Sorry, it's not specifically soulflame kills. It's any cause of death while affected by your soulflame proc.
i wish we could customize our bots, at least with veteran talents and stuff
>>544135106Skip Essence Harvest at least
>>544136789They're never going to throw krak's lil'bro.
>>544134917Its okay, it falls apart on havoc. The autist in here had a fucking 2 hour melty because I said it was fine so I wouldn't mention it again.
>>544135106Quietude is overrated and especially pointless without shriek, take Battle Meditaion insteadWildfire is a meme node, take Empyric Shock next to itUnless you are a premadefag and have a voidblast assister who shits out rending, you need Penetration of the Soul. Actually, scratch that, you need it either way, because rending and brittleness stack. No you won't have uncanny up most of the time.You don't need second shield bubble modifier.Ditch coherency radius for quell speed, you will need it with no shriek.I would also take Empyric Resolve if you want to spray shit with your staff reliably instead of getting stuck quelling. Might use that Quietude/Battle meditation point, or Ogryn damage node, it's not as important. Warp rider is also kinda meme and you could take extra toughness damage reduction for it's price + tax.>kinetic deflectionToo many tax nodes. You will use staff most of the time and you don't need to block gunners with deflector if you crit often enough (which won't be a problem). If you take DS4 it now has riposte, which is essentially the same as kinetic deflection on psyker (except it takes much less peril to counter instead of blocking with kinetic deflection, but you can explode at max peril)
>>544110440I managed to grab it while leveling ogryn a few weeks back. Albeit the rumbler build is fucking disgusting on aurics so thats probably why.
>>544136960>Penetration of the Soul4% extra damage at 100 peril, nice.Just have +25% vs carapace and the ogryn node.
>>544135106Actually instead of Empyric Resolve you can swap Essence Harvest for Inner Tranquility. I just take neither and go with shriek.
>>544137843What are you talking about? I thought this was a flame staff build? I guess you can skip it if you don't care about crashers, since maulers and ragers both count as flak. But if you want to deal damage to crushers, you need brittleness and rending.
What is it with swedes and armored enemies being the only difficulty they know
really wish that every weapon just had slaughterer and headtaker im tired of thinking
This fine for Deimos Force Sword or is there some esoteric build that's flying over my head?
>>544139678Yeah looks good. Executor is too much of a pain in the ass to use.I also put block efficiency instead of carapace because I don't really melee crushers.
this shit is not additive, is it? I don't feel a difference even though hitting 2 enemies should bump my crit chance by 24%.
>>544141568critical damage increases in this game only apply to the bonus damage itself. let's say you deal 1000 normal damage and 1100 critical damage, your crit multiplier is only 10% so if you shoot 5 enemies in a single blast of your shotgun you have a 60% chance per shot of dealing 10% extra damageobviously the exact amounts will differ and some classes have more or less value from crit, but for the most part on shotguns you want deathspitter and fire frenzy
>>544141876this is crit chance
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>544142017i acknowledged this
>>544126239>Muh gameplayIrrelevant
>>544126386>we're blessed by the emperorThis is unironically the truth.Havoc proves this, it has the Emperor's Fading Light modifiers which removes toughness grace period.Basically toughness being the Emperor protecting you with a shield of somekind.
>>544142849combat shotgun crit damage isn't bad but that's not what I want crit forI want crit for cleave or bleeds. I tried cleave first but it doesn't feel like it does anything (unarmored is pierced by default and flak doesn't seem to be pierced even with manstopper) so I switched to bleed.Turns out ravaging hordes of maulers with bodyshots isn't just fun, but also effective.
>>544143659Only in darktide maybe? Canonically emperor's corpse just takes psyker sacrifices to power the beacon (which is the guiding light), it shouldn't even affect realspace.What you talk about could be attributed to faith though, not Emperor's own doing.
Kitefin saying that they toyed with the idea of tying the Arbites talents to his armor pieces is basically an admission that the next class is a Mechanicus unit.
>>544144314Nah, that's the old lore. The Emperor has been just one act short of a Chaos God for a while now.
>>544145506Is everything that exists in warp chaos? I thought he was creating order.
>>544145769Not everything in the warp is chaos, the problem is that such dimension was polluted by negative emotions and shit
>>544146462Then why do you call him a Chaos God? He may be the first Man God. It's not like only Chaos Gods exist, there are Eldritch Gods too.
there are chinese people posting with you, right now
>>544147279I don't lol, this >>544145506 was another anon
>>544110112gotrek and felix audiobooks, especially:trollslayerskavenslayerdemonslayerI generally avoid HH stuff because there are more than 60 fucking books of it and sometimes hard to follow the story if you didnt read/listen to other books this becomes worse when it comes to siege of terra stuffbut i enjoyed scars and path of heaven, and the first 4 HH audiobooks are okaynon-HH, 40k stuff:lion son of the forestmost ciaphas cain stuff (because they are generally easier to listen because of the narrator and writing)space wolves, ragnar blackmane booksnight lords trilogyhelsreach40k ayylmaos:da red gobbo collectionda big dakkatwice dead king series
>>544106372you get the black penance armor from assisting other people in havoc which is nice, but once you get that it's purely for fun. If you play the game long enough you will eventually hit a brick wall of auric (and half of the maelstorms, not all) being too easy but quickly finding out havoc is too dead and you are left in purgatory.
>>544133315well if you found the two points then you wouldn't have to stack ALL those perks to begin with. But it's up 2 u
>>544141568>this shit is not additive, is it?All forms of crit chance in Darktide are additive.Base 5% crit, +12%, comes out to 17%.Scattershot's behavior is strange and I honestly don't know exactly how it works.There's a mod that creates a HUD widget that shows crit chance, that is reliable.On the combat shotgun, crit chance is only valuable for the bleed blessing, but if you're going DoT, strength on the incendiary rounds is better, and the bleed is only worth it with huge crit chance in your skill tree. Scattershot is, however, one of the best blessings on arbitrator's duckbill shotgun, because it has disgusting crit damage.
>twins>plague ogryn>horde with crushers and armored ragers mixed in>2 snipers aiming at your team, 2 trappers and a dog>2 of your teammates are downwyd?
>>544148587>There's a mod that creates a HUD widget that shows crit chance, that is reliable.It's not really reliable, it does math in a way the modder thinks critchance works, it's not actual critchance
>>544148609>yell at the other dude to stick close>shoot the snipers>chorus on downed guy>use max revive speed to instantly pick him up>pray everyone doesn't drop their spaghetti while I make my way over to stun grenade res the other guy
>>544148609[x] genuflectThen stall the game as long as possible so the pugs will say waowee nice try you're so fuariking SKILLED even though we lost miserably so I can feel better about myself shitting the bed
>>544109950>I've never been in a situation where I felt like horde enemies are a threat. I've literally never once seen a person go down because they were swarmed by horde mobs. nothing in Darktide is a threat on its own (aside from the most dangerous mobs like Spawn, Daemonhost, or sword Karnak) but when you combine different threats together they can create a clusterfuckpoxwalker hordes are an enemy that crowds you and surrounds you while you're being pushed by more dangerous threats. a poxwalker on its own isn't what kills you, heavy enemies pressuring you while poxwalkers trap you and wear you down is what kills you. regular poxwalkers are the deadliest enemy in darktide, statistically
>>544114207i found the inquisitor eisenhorn trilogy to sometimes be pulpy in a way i couldn't respect. the endings of book 1 and 2 in particular felt really lazy and sudden
>>544148678>it does math in a way the modder thinks critchance worksNo it doesn't, retard.It pulls it directly from how the game calculates crit chance. Plus that can easily be datamined. The mod in question uses>local CriticalStrike = require("scripts/utilities/attack/critical_strike")which becomes>mod._current_crit_chance = CriticalStrike.chance(mod._player, mod._weapon_handling_template, mod._is_ranged, mod._is_melee)and has nothing to do with hallucinating how it works.
>>544135106if you want kinetic deflection and become the ultimate reviver:Remove quietude, that's +1. (you already have a fuckton of toughness regen)Then remove either Kinetic Flayer, or Crit Evasion (You have bubble + fuckton of toughness regen), or ogryn damage. Or don't do any of this and continue using this build as it is. It's overall pretty decent.
>>544119927>Rock isn't 100% consistent on trappers iirc, but it does one-shot with some global damage talents.What the fuck? The rock ALWAYS oneshots trappers no matter your damage talents, it overkills them several times over even at auric. Unless you're playing against some havoc 40 stim boosted champion of nurgle trapper.
>>544148609Nothing, because that is unsalvagable.
>>544149061Rock is hardcoded to one-shot mutants, and I'm not sure what else, if anything.It does not reliably oneshot trappers. You need SOME form of damage, otherwise a bodyshot does not instagib them even in aurics.
>>544110112This one. It's a "Horus Heresy" book in the absolute loosest of terms. It takes place before Space Marines even exist. Before the Imperial Palace has only really sort of started to be built. At the tail end of the Unification Wars, and after the Age of Strife. It jumps between a lot of PoVs and there's several very interesting plotlines moving together simultaneously. You get perspectives from literally the lowest of the low, to the highest of the high. You can see how people find it weird that the Emperor is starting to accept certain things, enforce others, everyone is kind of fumbling around trying make sense of the new world that is being made right in front of them. Like a lot of Wraight's books it's basically a political thriller/detective story with good action set pieces (including one with Thunder Warriors). Also, the antagonist is a fat black woman who gets fucking BTFO'd. So if you want to see that, there's that.
>>544148609run run run and try to rescue the 2 dead teammates. Chances of success increase with movement speed/abilities and stun/shock grenades
Remember...Don't eat muties!
>>544149676>ogryn venjent.webm
>>544109950They are mostly there to limit your freedom of movement. They are not a threat on their own, but they make other enemies more dangerous by making it harder for you to reach them or dodge out of the way.
>>544114207>this will be especially true whenever the last bequin book "pandaemonium" drops which will probably be the biggest lore shattering novel in the setting's historyI am wondering how much of the Bequin books are a negotiation between Abnett and GW. >"I'll write these HH books, but in return, you let me do this in the Bequin books." Blowing up Cadia and moving the plotline forward was a GW idea, is pushing the other direction. Instead of the IP owners pushing the lore in a direction they want, he's trying to push the lore in a direction that he wants. It's also not some little story that can be paved over like various drops in short stories and other Black Library books no one particularly cares about that have otherwise massive implications on the setting if you think about them too long (i.e. the map of the Pharos Devices in The Great Work that Cawl obtained). That plot device is just sitting there, and if GW wanted to act on it could completely reshape the entire setting overnight yet I doubt they ever will. What Abnett is almost assuredly going to end up doing in Pandaemonium will be as narratively important to 40k as... I don't know. The Dark Imperium? Maybe moreso. If what Abnett has been setting up in those books shakes out exactly as he's been writing, it's functionally a second Imperium just sitting there, working from the shadows with a deeply autistic, and deeply angry guy at the head who has been doing god knows what the whole time. It reminds me in a way of how Abnett expanded on a literal one sentence throwaway line from 3rd Ed about the pylons in Malleus, and then 20 years later that had huge implications for the whole setting during the 13th Black Crusade but way more present in the setting that feels like they can't just put a button on it in one book. That whatever the fuck Valdor's been doing will be around in some form until the setting dies or GW makes a concentrated effort to resolve it through other stories after.
>I HAVE TO RUN WAY THE FUCK ALL THE WAY OVER THERE TO GO PUSH THE BURSTERThat's great buddy, but I'm shooting it, and I was already shooting it with my infinite bullets. Hopefully you're caught in the blast.
>>544148563don't forget every other game is ruined because your dopamine receptors are fried
>>544148563That's why I stopped playing. Arbites was a decent distraction. I think I milked another 70-100 hours out from the game because of that, but otherwise... I am burned. They need to put in more maps so fucking badly. I am over here with tears in my eyes (not really) by the lack of new maps.
>>544148563>but quickly finding out havoc is too deadSkill issue. I could fill 40s within 10 minutes even at fucking witching hour, it just requires that I host and not be overly picky.If you would stop being an insufferable leech or hardstuck retard failing too many missions to ever reach 40, this wouldn't be a problem.Just because you're bad and playing in dead regions doesn't make the gamemode dead. Lying is a shit coping mechanism.
>>544151338i mean i've been playing h40's for about 4 weeks and while i get consistently invited because i perform (can't be arsed to get 40 myself when there's zero reward for doing it and i haven't gotten 100 havocs helped penance yet,) i do run into people whose names i recognize already pretty consistentlyits a small crowd and so yeah, i guess you have to perform to make it feel lively but don't act like there are thousands of people doing it when there are only thousands of people launching the game at all
>>544152123>>544151338nta anon btw just chiming in
>>544148563They really need to add more maps into this game.Adding havoc and mortis hasn't really made the game better since the actual core gameplay mode has basically been left to rot. Last actual new map was Clandestium, which was over a year ago.And shit like a new mortis map or adding cancer modifiers to havoc isn't an actual replacement for real content.
>>544152123>don't act like there are thousands of people doing itI'm not, but this constant lying about havoc being le ded is fucking retarded and only perpetuated by permanent hardstuckies
>>544153319Havoc is dead for the most part.
Any better perks/blessings on the grippypenis shotgun? I have jack shit for crit, so the bleed didn't strike me as useful. Damage on kill is also pointless because I only use it for single target. IJ zealot btw
>>544151128Sounds like a (you) problemI still enjoy most other casual games >>544153319>permanent hardstuckiesOkay anon, say you missed the first week, or in this case be the anon who asked in the first place about hard difficultiesUnless you are ALREADY h40 past the initial week, your own games can take a while to get rolling. You are viewing this through the lens of an active player, not a person looking to get into it, which is what I stated, especially at witching hour. I get games still, but they can be slow to fill and require a degree of autism, hell I run into the same 15 players constantly like a scriers psyker using a deimos macro constantly, or the same three ogryns with branx/achylis single stubber. This is a statement directed towards a new player, not us.
>>544134917It's complete dogshit
>>544153319This season I've seen like 2 fags with 40 clearance in aurics and 1 with 30Most players didn't touch it at all
>>544153857>simultaneously acting like you're better than other people while admitting you're too hardstuck to get h40faggot
>>544153319gonna chime in here as a new player, havoc seems relatively impenetrable because the few lobbies i do see are for havoc 35-40, while trying to start low levels aurics just brings in havoc 0 newbies with whom i can't even start a matchafter a few hours of trying i just went back to playing regular
>>544154092I can't really blame anyone for not playing this current season specifically because it fucking sucks
>>544154859yeah i've retreated back to ratclicking while i wait for a better season or new mapsgot my 40 and maxed all weapon masteries, hit 5500 penance points, only thing i have left to do is finish havoc helper penance but meh @ covering your face in a game with character customization
>>544154689>reading comprehension Shit, nigger.
>>544155253can't believe you stole this off of a reddit postfucking sad
>>544154850Havoc is poorly explained because fagshart are faggots and apparently want all the game mechanics to be completely opaque by design, which somewhat makes sense I guess because the average player is extremely retarded.Talk to the ruski bitch, win a maelstrom, and your rating will catapult to 17 or whatever. From there, you install a mod that lets you inspect players to make sure you don't get double niggers that bring fucking 200 rated blue curios, and host your own games. I've never been in the shitter trench so I don't know how lively it is, but I see plenty of games in the 20-30 range when I open my browser, so it must be alive.
>>544153687Take the crit things anyway.Or use revolver or bolter like a normal person.
>losing hope in ever getting the havoc pants after i lose 3 ranks due to people disconnecting, crashes, bad teammates (as in running alone and dying to a crusher/mauler 1v1 or flaming others in vc) and unwinnable spawns>decide to say fuck it and just join someone else's game>10 ranks above mine, still get accepted>we stick to eachother like glue, instantly kill all specials and bosses and clear the entire map no problem with 0 downsi definitely got carried by a much higher skill team but holy fuck that felt nice after so many depressing games, thank you havocGODS for letting me join you
>>544157101>revolverSlug shotgun is quite competitive. Same mobility after the buffs, hits the same breakpoints for most relevant targets other than reapers. I mainly prefer the shotgun because you can reload it while sliding, unlike every other gun.>bolterNot without knives, and I dislike knives.Bolt pistol has the same issue as the revolver with its lengthy reload time, it's icky.Running +5% crit and Flechette now to see how that works out. Full Bore stays, it's the best blessing.
Haha remember when people expected something for Warhammer day?
>>544158643>hits the same breakpoints for most relevant targetsCorrection actually, it can't seem to one-shot snipers at every range as zealot. I'll try unarmored as my second perk.
what is the lore difference between groaners and poxwalkers?
>>544159691Both are infected with the Walking Pox virus.Poxwalkers are full zombies, groaners are more recently infected.
