Previous thread: >>544098443 >Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerHaru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12Yuki - Unknown - Unknown - Leaked/Expected around 11/12 >Current Events/Upcoming ContentA Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12Galactic Calamity Seasonal content (Gives one 5* dupe of your choosing per season) - Expected around 11/12 >Basic Guides and Introductionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg >PC Client (Stove)https://www.onstove.com/en/download >Reroll guidehttps://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640>Reroll tipsReroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for HaruYou have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner) >Cards aren't savingCards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)
So whats the connection to Epic7? How'd Kayron get in CZN?
first for hugo
>>544118054useless bitch
>>544118054When is the week reset?
Orlea brick is so useless I can't believe Japs put her in SS just because "hurr durr she's a 5* support". She gets mogged hard by Mika.
>>544118054who the fuck eats pudding like that
>>544118157rabi soon
wait, this one is good for tressa shadow dagger heal build
>>544118395read properly
When will the dev explain how exactly the save data system works?
>>544118395>1 per turn
There is like 3-4 female designs that are actually good. Hope it gets better, but the leaks don't look too promising.
>>544118395you want this. Keep running Chaos 2 until you get it.
>>544118395based retard
>>544118573>chaos 2world 2 right?
>>544118557we already have the best oneits all downhill from here
Quick shout-out to my nibbas who only really played one gacha until CZN showed up and stole our hearts.t. ZZZ connoisseur
>>544118573Who's Lepidola?
How strong Haru? la
>>544118704>On your knees, Protos
>>544118687That's one of the good ones, generic but saved by the bondage.
>>544118719How much can she lift?
>>544118704in a ? area you can run into a female monster that can talk. You can choose to fight her and get a mythic weapon. She uses a whip
>dude food lmao
Enough rerolling, i stop here
>>544118703Literally me too. I swore off any gachashit before ZZZ and now CZN as a side gacha.
should I fight this?
>>544118858How can I fight against this??? >>544118792
>got LukeShould I build this dude. I already have Renoa and they are in the same class
>>544119058get in, 100% of the time it's better option
>>544119021That's some insane lineup... what did it cost?
>>544119058dunno, you get an achievement for getting in the portal
I think I fucking suck at this game, how is this possible, I played both slay the spire and darkest dungeon yet I can't fucking do any of the level 4 chaos levels despite having level 40 5 star characters
>>544119021>hes behind by a weekBRICKED
I must apologize to Rei, she is kinda fun
>>544119117sweet
>>544119120>he's using 5 star garbage characters instead of 4* lol
>>544119058Devoured Memories, every time.
>>544119120probably a gear problem but yea game is hard at level recommendation
I fucking can't bros. This piece of shit boss is too strong. He basically has infinite damage mitigation and once he reaches phase 2 he stacks infinite damage buffs on himself.
>>544119120don't sweat it man, game is not balanced yet, some regular fights are like 2-3 times harder than elites
We need a 4* ticket like right now
>>544119120Do you use the matching element for the chaos dungeon? Its actually insane how easy enemies are when you exploit their weaknesses
>>544119264Cheese it bro
>>544118557Where leaks?
>>544119120>>544119237Character Level is enough to do the resource grinds and that's about it.Swapping to and leveling appropriate Partners, slotting basic statstick Memories, and ESPECIALLY getting your 3-1 Proficiencies make a huge difference. >>544119264Just run Tressa with agony knives.
>>544119264What is this boss gimmick again?
How much of a downgrade is Magna compared to the furry and eyepatch girl.?
>kayron dupeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.........
this has to be the most bullshit fight ive seenhe only has aoe mental +8 dmg attacks with multiple attacks per turn, comes out as an elite from the chest of a monster in a normal encounter and you even get an escape card as the devs know this guy is horseshit wtf
>>544119530Magna is really not that good from my experience.
>>544119523-70% dmg taken.
>>544119296The first chaos second final boss is what's giving me trouble, I can't kill him quick enough, granted it was specifically because my Mika had a third mental breakdown that needed 10 mentally ill card for her to come back but still>>544119306Yeah, I'm using Mika,Mei lin and Khalipe for the first chaos dungeon>>544119497I did level up her potentials if that's what you're talking about, her basic attack potential is at 10, unique card potential is at 5, the other one is just for shielding so I don't think it matters, I think its just that I got fucked over by the mental breakdown mechanic and couldn't heal my party or generate AP for my Mei lin combos
>>544119264build ur tressa bwo
>>544119264your tressa bwo?
>>544119617image. this fucker right here, dont bother with him
>>544119530Magna is essential for the brainless counter team.
Tried using herGot rid of the 2 Cost card and Shield in hopes the run would be smootherI got my ass kickedHow do I Rin?
>>544119530She's a good shielder that builds counter attacks. Kinda boring but just werks.
>roll 10 successful escape>roll 13thanks god
>A-Am I awkward?Haha holy shit beta protag
>>544119749>>544119771>>544119359What's a good Tressa team? Reona, Tressa, Mika?
>>544119617>>544119773He shouldn't be doing multiple attacks per turn unless you are triggering his gimmick. He is a dmg rush though because of the sanity shit so if you can't kill him in 3-4 turns then just run.
>>544119530Khalipe wants a team built around her to spam free casts of Vulture, but will handily clear just about anything with that support.Magna is for counter-attack and vulnerability stacking with huge burst damage payoffs, but is the least defensive vanguard in the game.Magna+Amir+any card support crushes anything that breathes, just not very quickly.
>>544119196yeah she's fun, space pirates can vouch for that!
>>544119120Everyone has shit partners because nobody is rolling on the weapon gacha
is the rateup partner worth it for haru?
>>544119102You will start praying for crits once you play him, so unless you're religious just bench him
>>544119120>t. didn't play Card-en-CielThat aside it isn't because you will shove your team with full SSRs that it will be automatically good. Everyone keeps hammering how Mika is godly for a reason.And level 4 means you got both Potentials and Memory Fragments unlocked.
what the fuck. this will brick my save
>>544119904Forgot pic
>finish a chaos run>ok that's enough for today>see some nutty divine epiphany screenshot>oh man that would go so hard>log back inAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Left???
>>544119837just fought hat guy and nearly killed him but then he did somehow did an aoe mental dmg when he was at 7 enemy AP and put two of my dudes into depression>>544119914wonder what I did then. I was using Mei Lin and Selena so I definitely could have done it, but I thought I was cycling who I used.What do you get for winning?
>>544119264DoTs and counter are your best bet, bring Maribell or Tressa
>>544120071You have the god team with Hugo + Tressa + mika or nia
>>544119196Sensei, care to explain why your student is fighting eldritch abominations nopan?
Can i play this game on steam somehow ?
How much better is a 5* partner over a 4* one?
>>544119981number 2 is one of the best items in the game even if it gets selected over other stuff
>>544120089Anyone?? Do i go for left or right
>>544120089RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT WHEEL OF FORTUNE IS BUSTED AS FUCK SAVE THAT SHIT FOR YOUR LAST CARD AND TAKE ANOTHER TURN
>>544120089Ye, the banner card is always the right choice with a god's epiphany
>>544119794Get her 3-1 Proficiency that puts her stance on her basic cards, run her with counter-attackers and debuffers, remember that you can swing with others before putting up stance.
>>544119617read his gimmick holy shit it's literally in the image
>>544119904Tressa, Mika and Cass
>>544119969>Owned Card En Ciel, Umbraclaw, and Gal Guardians 2 each since release and haven't played em yetI should get on that. And the Gunvolt trilogy too.>>544120134I'm turned on by girls in violent and/or sexual peril. I need to see more death animations.
>>544120089Left would be amazing with a Haru + Beryl team as long as you have enough 2-costsRight is also good with MikaDepends on team comp
>>544118054HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIT FINALLY!!!
>>544120089if you're running a team full of characters that have cheap cards, do not take left. i mean, that should be obvious...right is significantly better in general, practically a flawless epiphany. very easy and potent version of shuffle due to nearly always going plus on cards.
>>544120254>3-1 Proficiency that puts her stance on her basic cardsHoly shit what? Yeah that would help a lot
surely there is a trophy if you leave without opening the box r-right
What should I get from here anyway?
>>544120414nah just open it, ran into one when i was doing a throw run to get rid of "Laziness" fate
>>544120419research notes probably for at least another week
does this apply to the equiper or the entire party? why the fuck is the text so unclear
>>544120338I got so hyped I even forgot the screenshot
>>544120089Left thins the deck even if you gotta discard and gives ap and costs 0 and doesnt exaust. Go left
>>544120419Buy the key, then research until you've maxed out the Policy Timer research.
which one
I have not unlocked it yet but Zero System is just seasonal chaos dungeons right?
>>544120419get the policies because using them gives you currency. Research notes is good for meta progress. Affinity is good for growth path. The 1000 thing we can't get this month probably (13d left).
>>544120589Retain
Just fucking brutal at chaos 4. My shield girl was SOLELY stress targeted and had 3-4 breakdowns. That fight also is just uber obnoxious if you cant do 3 aoe attacks a turn. Anyway I died
>>544120589Middle
>>544120205I mean that's entirely case by case basis, but generally 5* Partners have better effects for less ego. And a lot of them seem to have specific 5* and occasionally 4* combatants in mind by designe.g. Kiara for Renoa, Bria for Kayron, Eishlin/Zeta for Khalipe, Asteria for Haru, who all will feel like they will have better kits overall if you have those partners.
>>544120589wave is the least shit one
I wish I can skip the stories with my alt account
>>5441205893 ap
I'm afraid I'll get spoiled if I dig any further in search of the Breakdown pics.
>>544118054I'm a brainlet retard that doesn't usually play gacha games and don't really understand the way to progress my characters properly. Is there a good source of info to learn all this shit?
>>5441205893 ap if you have good card draw to make big plays.
>>544120589Left if you have this
>>544120747ay caramba pinche pendejo
So true haru... its so nice being able to post screen shots without having to crop out my uid
why the fuck do all of the hunting instinct upgrades remove outbreak of war this is so fucking RETARDED
>>544120775Levels first, as it gatekeeps the rest otherwise. Potential next. Partners after that. Memory fragemnts are perhaps the most important but you want to farm them later on where you can get the good ones, just get some for the free stats for now. Ego is just dupes, you always apply it.
>>544120071Tressa Hugo +1
>>544120775If you really are not familiar with gacha games then I recommend watching youtube guides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONbyo3mS6jI
Is this build worth saving until I get more counseling tickets? Or even using crystals on? I got some nice epiphany selects I think and would hate to memory wipe unless it’s not all that great. Lvl26 if that matters, like I’m still too low to sweat getting good runs.
oh we are DRAWING and we are AoE MARKING yessir.
>>544120747ANON WE NEED THE BREAKDOWN PICTURES
Wish this game didn't use AI for it's character designs
am I misunderstanding something or is this really fucking useless
>>544121201AI rocks
>>544118350holy shit bwo look what I just pulled wtfff
>>544120970>>544120985I forgot to mention that I did think about guides but everybody says different things and people here say certain ones are shit so I wasn't really sure. Thanks bros.
>>544121101if thats your first Mika that generates all that AP/Wave then keep it. But you can expect that to be the average Mika in longer routes.
Holy shit, this card was MADE for Orlea.I just nonstop heal with my toughies proc retain effects and am swarmed with these fucking daggers.>>544119120Also this game is fucking SHIT.You genuinely have to get lucky to win, for every successful run there is about 50 failed runs
>>544121101Could hold onto it since its a good thin deck but I wouldn't consel it back until you really need to use it. You'll easily farm more passable mika decks
>>544121314that epiphany normally costs 1 which is why it has that cost reduction text. congrats you got a straight upgrade
Is everyone hoarding Crystals or dumping them into the banners?
>>544121314It's good. As far as I understand the Recover condition means you have to actually heal HP to get 2 AP. Functionally it's +1 AP otherwise.
Does pity carry over?
>>544121314Technically you don't have to fulfill the HP recover condition for it to be 0-cost, so it's not useless. 0-mana unconditional +2 AP is good
>>544120775Not yet, but tl;dr:>The decks you get from Chaos are softcapped by your progression, so do more runs periodically to make stronger 'versions' of your characters to use outside it>Level 1-19Grind Promotion materials, find a team you want to stick with>Level 20-29Promote your primary team, then grind Potential Fragments (Potential 3-1 is a huge gamechanger for most characters)>Level 30+Promote, then do Chaos Runs to fill your Memory slots out with stat sticks>???Build a second team for the Dawn nodes, fill out your Basic/Unique Potentials, keep running Chaos for random artifacts and better decks
>>544121101I'd scrap that desu
>>544121429dumped into haru banner until max mika dupes (no haru). holding now
>>544121381I see thanks. looks like some of the text is still redundant though
>>544121373>You genuinely have to get lucky to winActual shitter team retardI've won every chaos except 1 (because I fucked up a mechanic due to MTL) since I started playing Khalipe/Cassius/Nia
>>544121314How brown are you?
>>544120747Where are the character leaks?
im trying this tressa and hugo comp and holy shit this is crazy.
>>544121201>>544121315it's not>>544121373>You genuinely have to get lucky to win, for every successful run there is about 50 failed runsWelcome to roguelites
>>544121510Not really. There are things that can increase the cost mid battle that the cost reduction could still apply to.
how do I undo epiphany trigger for a new effect again?
>>544121581LIGHTNING DINGO
>half its HP in the very first turnDamn.>>544121517Now do chaos runs above lvl 1 you stupid fucking larping shitter.
>>544119296>go to normal fight>tentacle man with 2000 hp>spawns a field full of 400 HP dogs> turn 2 and they're attacking for your entire fucking health bar>you kill them>he still does 400 damage>resummons the dogsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
People are talking about broken team combos but what do you think is the most unviable team in the game?
>>544121643Hourglass. Also tried it out with breakdown cards. Doesn't reset the rng
When do I use my energy stores?
>>544121705any team without nia or mika in chaos 4+ nightmare
>>544121647yeah I think this is better than veronica and mei lin if anyone is curious the damage output is crazy
>>544121705Nia-Mika-Orlea
posting again, ididnt know previous thread endedare you supposed to get rid of Mei Lin's basic cards? how would her "draw basic cards with 0 cost" skill would work then?
>>544121369>>544121374But am I still able to use her in spite of being in the trauma state? Seems like I can't play as her while she has that.
>>544121838just get rid of her block
>>544119742The one that spawns 3 ghoul? Read the mechanic and have decent ST to kill the a ghoul quickly
>>544121838Get rid of the shield so you always draw the strikes.
Finally beat my first chaos 4Fuck this gay ass RNG shithole of a goddamn game.Absolute trash shit fucking game
>>544121854You still can, the tutorial tricks you into thinking you can't
>>544121838do not get rid of mei lins basics, she's like the only character in the game where that is unideal use your brain
pew pew pew
>>544121716which one?
>only Selena has implant weakness
So... I've been rerolling by pulling on the beginner banner. I thought you could get double 5* from it. am I retard?
When people say to grind Chaos 3 for decks did they mean the 3rd chaos dungeon at highest difficulty possible? Or the most recent dungeon at difficulty 3?
>>544121932Rin wants to keep hers too
>>544122016difficulty 3, unless you have a really good team that can slam difficulty 4.
>>544122016Difficulty 3, because it has two floors.
>>544122016farm the one that matches your main dps's color at difficulty 3+
>>544122012At least you figured it early. Go back to the standard banner.
Actually made it to the final boss of Chaos 4 hard mode without a healer. DPS racing really does work if you just go to campfires, huh? My team is Owen, Mei Lin and Selena.
>>544121932>>544121869>>544121889but one of her epiphanies is "create 2 basic cards with 0 cost". do you still need the basic cards then?
>hoyoshit gearing systemNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>544121752Just use them when you want to. It doesn't matter when you use them
Base difficulty 3 or DT difficulty 3?
uchimasu
>>544122154Deep Trauma if you're epiphany farming
>>544121916First the Stove and now this?!
>>544121643>>544121716>>544122005someone was saying turn last thread but I couldn't get it to work. only seems useful if you fuck up and picked the wrong onehttps://files.catbox.moe/f7oquz.mp4
>>544122054>>544122073>>544122080Thanks. That also answered my next question cause the 3rd one is Void. I didn’t realize the previous dungeons also got 2 floors at diff 3
>>544122154There's no reason not to DT if you've already cleared it once, you only get the 150 points the first time.
>>544122114Removing basic cards raises your save data value. The game currently messes with your save files randomly if it detects you have a very valuable save file above some undisclosed threshold, which means if you have a very good divine epiphany on a card it may just remove it.She doesn't need her basic cards removed so if you remove them you're artificially inflating your save file value.
damn this moc turn limit is so cancerous>3 waves each side>its already minimum 6 turns if you zero cycle all of them>12 turns limit
World 4 doesn't fuck around. It's version of copy card doesn't give schizo it gives a card that gives all enemies +3 action count. It can really mess up your plans.
>>544122237I didn't get it to work either
DT is for losers I'm doing easy runs and getting equipment saved
>>544122352Wait does it really add up like that? That's pretty annoying then.
>just lost a run because my veronica entered a battle stressed and couldnt use her outbreak of war card to start spawning ballistaat least now i know to get her out of stress mode at all costs before a fight ends.and speaking of stress, does anybody know what determines who gets stressed when attacked?
>it saved my daggers bitch loadout perfectlyHoly SHIT, wont need anything more from this whore.
>>544122121your first item is actually p boss
>>544121948Is that any Passion attack card or just Selena's?
>>544122539Any passion attack. So with my tripple passion team this does a million damage.
>>544121948what's a coordinated attack
>>544122016wait, we don't grind chaos 4???
The Queens are not happy about "removing" Owen next chapter. Thoughts?
>>544122759follow-up attack
>>544118054So as soon as the game let's you, you dump 30 rolls and if outcome is shit just reset?That seems to be the quickest way, the extra battles take some time in menus and dont give extra 10 roll
>>544122759It means that Selena will shoot someone whenever a passion card is used. It's an extra attack. Not to be confused with her mark which also does that, which stacks with this by the way.
>>544122774I am traumatized by these fucker
>>544122876that's me btw
>>544122809>>544122835is Selena's Mark considered follow-up attack cause ive been giving her equips with +followup attack
REEEEEEE
>>544122945I think so but I'm not 100% sure myself lol
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>544122945Yes. If you open detailed view of her Mark 2 card it will also describe what Mark does to you, and it says that attacks triggered by Mark is considered a follow-up attack (here it's called Extra Attack)
>>544122959me when the story does a trope a hate, my stress lines up on the final boss, or the gear system becomes twice as autistic
>>544122016This. Stop saying chaos 3 it just means the 3rd dungeon
>>544122774If you can reliably clear it then do chaos 4, I'm trying to build my 2nd team and it isn't strong enough to deal with the hp bloat.
>>544122121Welcome to modern gacha anon-kun...
What do we think about the Haru event
NOO MY WAIFUUUU
>>544123153Mysterious translation tier
>i have a 2 dupes renoa and 1 dupe kayron + magnai'm fucking rerolling.
>>544122251The second floor of the 1st chaos dungeon (Blue Pot) has an event that allows you to copy a card. From my experience it shows up reliably if you hunt for it. If you want 3 copies of something for your build go to the 1st chaos dungeon
>>544123179kino
>>544122312NTA but how do you decide basic cards to remove? Like I can understand removing attakc cards from supports like Mika, but in case of the DPS what donyou do?
>>544123262If DPS, remove shield I think.
Gaming
>>544123179Best honest. How much cum has already been spilled thanks to these death animations?
the weekly thing is too hard
>always fail at 2nd boss chaos 1 diff 4 mental break modehate that nigger
>SMACK SMACK SMACK
>>544122774The koreans prefer 3 because in 4 you need to prioritize immediate survival more while in 3 you can afford to go out of your way for a character in specific to have a better deck or an intended comp.From what I theorize, at Chaos 4 you’d have to spread out to make everyone good, while at 3 you can focus as much as you want in a single character
>>544123381Build Tressa
>grinding chaosyou do know its completely worthless after you go up another 10 level right?
sooo can someone explain why I take 3 stress damage at the end of EVERY turn?
???
Um leakbros? I know that super big tits sword girl is the next banner but what about freaky ghost girl? Pic not related
>>544123565We legitimately don't know. There are no leaks yet
>>544123529To punish stalling deck
>>544123565you mean Euphina?its MIGHT be after yuki
>>544123558Own Card vs Any Passion Card I think
>>544123558Left is only for her own cards, right is for anyone's passion cards.
>>544123669No not Euphina. She looks like Narja but has spooky ghost covers
Tier list for this?
>>544123774Evie > other bitches
>>544121705the 4star vanguard barely feels like a functional character
>>544123316does smilegook think the censored death animations are actually better this way
>>544123650ah, well I hate it
>>544123774howl > dust > badge > evie
>>544123774>evie's a maleDoubt.
>>544123834They would be right, the silhouette's make it kino. Your mind fills in the blanks, and won't fuck it up like an animator.
Why can't I save her data?? This run took over a fucking hour
>>544124124just fix her in the infirmary and you get it back.
>>544122876extremely overtuned piece of shit that bricks your deck, fuck him
>>544124124Cuz she's mindbroken you stupid bitch.You need to spend a ticket and make her sane before you're allowed to save it.If you memory wipe her shit gets deleted
>>544123840also what I hate more is they always add stress to who ever already has the most.
this is bullshit
>>544124242yu rike?
Don't tell me this is a partner I need her.
>login>greeted by Renoa who keeps saying she doesn't like blacks
huh, this is is good right
>>544124065no way you actually believe it's done for any reason other than age ratings and the Chinese lmao
>>544124304she is
>>544124304Renoa's bis partner.
so why is mei lin allowed to attack like 6 times per turn again?
>>544124304partner...
>>544124230They have to stack stress to 1 character at a time, otherwise you'd end up in situations where multiple characters get mind-broken in 1 battle and you just die because your hp is 1/3 of max.Lore-wise, it makes sense that the more stressed out characters get stressed out even faster as they enter a spiral of doom
>>544124305My wife's opinions are always correct.
>>544124363>Have the mulligan equipment>Auto discards 1 upgrade card every time
How do i use Beryl
>>5441243453 cost is a bit high but on specific build it's not bad
>>544124539with Orlea
>>544124438That does happen in nightmare runs. You'll be near the end and then a cascade of failure happens.
Monster cards are kind of insane tho.
>>544124304sorry bro...unless they are dressed like a stripper and have minimum G cup they are partner zoned.
>>544124661Bro your daily life...
The best anchor shot epiphany is the +1 hit right? The others take too long to ramp up in damage.
>>544124667Why didn't they shove Renoa in the partner box then?
HOW YOU NIGGAS LEVEL 30+ ALREADY
>>544124539x3 of these, and as many retains as you can get and she'll quickly be shitting out 1800% extra damage a turn for no cost. Alternatively get the +2 hits per retain epiphany instead and run her with Orlea.
Owen is going to get removed from the game... its over....
>>544124779Day 1 player, finished most of the story, spent all stamina items. I didn't use crystals to refill stamina at all
more slampigs, MORE
>>544124780This shot for each retained card or only for each upgrade?
What the FUCKdo i just bail?
Wtf is this
>>544124935If you can't kill it in 3 turns, yeah
Renoa + Hugo combo. What do we think
>>544124779Play the game
stupid bitch-kun has found our general...
>>544125002you need to mindbreak atleast once in chaos to enter deep traumaget to it anon
where can I see what card motions look like before restoring them?
>VB, copycuck and Kroni are here now
>>544124926Each upgrade will shoot one target x times for each of her cards that do retain. So if you have three upgrades up it'll shoot one guy three times for 150% per retain she does. Orlea's retains don't trigger the upgrade proc though, not sure if it's bugged or actually intended.
>>544124935chaos 1?
>>544125131the game's website or something
Is haru worth it or do I skip her banner?
>>544124858Not if I whale for his spending event bikini skin and 5* alt
>>544125156This overtuned piece of shit in chaos. Harder than the bosses
>>544125152If you're talking about that 1-cost, it only triggers the effects of Retain on the chosen card. It doesn't actually Retain the card, so it works as intended
>>544125194you didn't get baited by blonde underboob, but I'll get you next time
idk if I can get a better save data than this, the 2 cost drawing slashes deal like 900 dmg to any enemy once I use all upgrades on rei/rindoes rin have a higher dmg ceiling with different epiphanies?
>>544125218so many things are fucking harder than Elites and bosses its crazy like this bleeding vagina
>zero system is literally just poe maps
>>544125152Oh so it's both. The exhausted card from her 0 cost also counts, right? I'll try to fish for that
I closed the game, and now I can't get it to launch again. It's in my task manager, but it's not actually open anywhere.
>>544125302whens Elon gonna stream his runs?
>>544125218This enemy is why I hunt events on the second floor and avoid the later fights if at all possible.
>>544125069>too good at game>can't play at harder difficultyWhat kind of stupid system is this
>>544125368chinese spyware is cool and all but now you're up against korean anticheat
>>544125218Managed to live through this shit
>>544125343Yeah, it counts. I managed to get 3x Upgrade Opening and x2 Heavy Weapons on a save and she clears.
shit is just hitting for too much man.
>>544125294No, as someone that like her and tried hard to make a E1 Rin work, she is kinda mid, not trash, but mid as fuck, too much work around for no real pay off.
>the fat fuck mobs that increase your AP when you use skill cards
We need x3 speed in non-combat rooms, these text bubbles taking forever to finish.
>>544125295Vagina monster...
>>544125604"skill issue?" as he grins his fat face
>>544125546never going back to blue pot because of that rat fuck. the boss is also annoying as hell if you play a lot of cards.
they need to nerf all those elite enemy and bosses
>>544125649Have you tried actually READING and not being a skip shitter???
>>544125510I call it bullshit if you never get a trauma in the Chaos 4 map. Maybe if you're a pussy and always visit a campsite and avoid any elite bosses on the way.
>>544125578what happens if you win after comm breakdown anyway
Y'know, I was really unhappy with my account so I deleted it. I convinced myself my account was the issue. Well, I'm in the reroll mines, and it's even more miserable. Maybe... Bros... You might have to go on without me....
>running nightmare mode for seven hours straight>havent come across this epiphany ONCEi'm going to fucking lose it
>>544125604The ones that lower your cost if you use attack cards? Those at least die fast..
>>544125667>nerf all those elite enemy and bossesThey need to nerf normal battle
>>544125194I feel like she has the highest celling from all characters from save data-1 ap is too strong on her anchorWithout it she is worse than Mei Lin
The preset teams don't include the current save you set it with? Thats going to suck I plan to create save decks that are good for auto battle
>>544125753your at !hp until you unmindbreak yourself
>>544125753Link Crash = You lostIt just gives you one last Death's Door go at beating your enemy.If you aren't at the last boss then it's just over for that run.
>>544125831>Without it she is worse than Mei LinAnd Mei Ling is the worst 5*
>>544125695Why the FUCK would I read the same fucking events repeated infinitely? They don't change.
>Try to end your turn>NO! YOU MUST USE ALL YOUR CARDS!I fucking hate Rei so much. Should've died when squished.
slimes are pretty cool
>>544124667you say that like the non g cup partners aren't strippers
>>544126004
>>544125780I got it twice today. But failed to beat the boss both times because ORLEA IS SO SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>5441260053* Toughie is legit.
>>544126229for me its swiftie
so the strat is to do chaos over and over buffing one char until you get a god save for them right?
Where's the pornIt's been 3 days
>>544124858they are gonna go all in on NTR boytoy Owen. Every girl trauma record is going to have endings where they are in his room for no reason
>>544125780Why would you want to give the enemies extra attack?
>>544126342yes.
they should add pvp so i can dab on all of you debate me
>>544126342Yes but if you only focus on one character the others will be deadweight and eventually you'll die.
>>544126364>Ignoring Hugo Anon....
>>544126000You haven't even read it fucking ONCE
>>544126364paging utsuro_butai
>manage to get 3 celestial rally on Khalipe>silver veil trigger + shield that is half of max hp every turn
>>544126506I have, in fact.
>machine translated, clearly not proof beyond "yup that looks like english">nearly all flavor voice lines are untranslated, all we get are the VN segments and the investigation nodes>no text wrapping to speak of; text is routinely cut off into the void or speech bubbles overlap each otherfucks sake how am i supposed to care about the lore when this is the presentation effort
Tell me you favorite event in the chaos dungeon.Tell me what happens in it, the story involved.
Bros we need a collection of all mind breaksThey make my peepee feel funny
>>544126364Here you gohttps://litter.catbox.moe/yulr0v9gra0bvaz0.png
I NEED MORE GIBS
>>544126364https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=chaos_zero_nightmare&z=1There is one
>think this game is easy>breezed through CH-4 and Chaos 4 NM all dungeons with my main team>start a second team>everything is impossibleI didn't realize I was being carried by Renoa and Cassius so hard. I didn't understand your game
>>544126664not reading these AI slot events. I like the ones that give me good shit
So I tested it and >>544104896 is full of shit.https://litter.catbox.moe/sg8m7i.mp4
Just did haru's story. Was pretty good. I hope all of the future ones are not just sad stuff, though it seems like the plot elements mean theyll likely always be sad. I have 100 pulls. Im fighting every urge to not just spam pull.
>>544126793>replying to Kroni
I remember when I have an episode and got hungry for no reason
>>544126664my favorites have been map 1 where you meet the slasher in his goons and they ask if if you feel up for an operation and there's a whole ass cutscene where they are are all on top of you laughing as they operatesecond favorite is walking in to two bosses fighting and the winner is injured and asks if you want to fight or just talk. If you fight you get probably the best mythic item in the game; if you talk I think it's just discarding a card
>Do a multi hoping to get Mika dupes>Get HaruUmmm.... thanks?
is there a list of which 4* Partners are good for which characters
is the brown hag good?...
>>544127021Are you incapable of reading or do you just not want to? Call yourself A STUPID BITCH
>>544126909
>>544127021It's less about characters and more about teams.
>>544127021i mean 4*s are just avg for everyone in their elements. Its the 5* ones that are all geared for specific combatants
>big AND saggingHOT
There should be a mechanic where when you lose the girls on your team get impregnated by monsters, and you have to bring them to the abortion clinic to use them in battle again
>>544126364>gook gacha>pornanon...
>>544127134...i disagree
JK SEX JK SEX JK SEX!
>>544127126Someone please tell me where the leaks are
>>544127134yes please
>>544127161Blue Archive and Limbus Company are gook gachas that got porn within a single day.
>>544127204they REALLY picked the wrong VA for her... fuck man
>>544127134Unless I get to see them getting impregnated in 4k super HD with internal cumshots then I don't want it.
maybe artists hate CZN, and it's no surprise because the card art in StS was so shit
dumb question because I probably just did not realize it,do items get better at higher chaos levels? or do they legit get better as the run goes on? trying to do exploration journals.
>>544127134No they should let the girls rape (you) when they go full mindbreak.
Amir is giga sexo, is it possible to make her viable or is she one of those bottom of the barrel unusable trash characters designed specifically to piss you off?
>>544127337Most artists dont want to associate with furry games
>>544127069Requires a team I don't have yet. But so far, her build seems to be heavily shield based.
>>544127234>Blue ArchiveYou want this kind of porn?
Action count feels like a gimmick than an actual mechanic right now
>>544127352As an example this is two different versions of items
>>544127363She's good with anyone that can stack a bunch of shields.
>>544127429Except the furry ones, and we don't have enough bait like ZZZ.
>>544127337>Furries>MalesNo wonder the game doesn't have fan arts.
>>544127450explain, I'm not porn addict
>>544127450>Sensei top resultsAm I getting raped or something?
when
wow that is nutty
>>544118054Holy shit this comp is dogshitI don't know what's worse; the fact that Rin deals literally zero damage or the fact that these 2 deadweight supports keeps giving me their useless cards right until I finally removed their useless basic cardsThis team might work in simulation but holy fuck this team suck ass in chaosDT 4 by the way
>>544127337>card art in sts was shitYou take that back you nigger
>>544127460When that gimmick slaps you for hundreds each time, you'll discover the true value of high cost cards.
>>544127460It's probably too high on most things to matter, but it becomes a real mechanic against the floor 2 blue pot boss.
this game makes my fucking iphone 17 explode
https://streamable.com/5powmkRenoa is so fucking cool once you actually have a good deck. Deep trauma difficulty 4 is normally a lot harder than this was.
>>544127562>that middle cardJust give mika a slutty swimsuit at this point.
>>544127504No wonder ZZZ has so much fanart then huh
>>544127126good designs they said kek
>>544127574Skill issue.Use Mika and Nia. Or bring a shield bot.
>>544127624>he doesnt have the latest modeltake a look at this poorfag
After finally completing dimensional dawn with scuffed lineup (no Haru, Owen and Beryl DPS), I can say with complete confidence that people must strongly consider investing in Hugo + Tressa. They carried the 2nd halves while the 1st halves are the real challenge.
>>544127656oh god it's a replicate choice
>>544127624Change 60 to 30fps.
>>544127662miHOMO is way bigger than Smilegate anon.Plus their fanbase are mentally ill of course they gonna make fanarts for that shitty game.
>>544127625damn I have no idea how you did it
is This Haru good
>>544127574I run the same with Renoa except of Rin and it's fucking amazingThe issue is Rin
>>544127134Stellabro btw not sure if that matters
>>544127625Hmmm should I drop maribell from my nia/renoa team?
>>544127694I tried this lineup because I wanted to know how good is this team in chaosIt's not pleasant to say the leastMika and Rei flooding your hand with heals and basic attacks is just not that good
why do japan dislike this game ?
>>544127820> 1 shield cardRuined
>forgot to buy foodah fuck>>544127924nips only like auto battler stup
>>544127924Not just japs but also gooks they just see NTR even when there's not any
>>544127924not enough NTR
>>544127924nips don't like games with gameplay
>>544127924despite being 15% of revenue, korean control 100% of story narrative
>>544127820Pretty good. A few less cards and it would be amazing. Not sure how I feel about the duplicate on powercharge.
>>544127924Someone post JP tierlist, just fron their tierlist alone we know that Japenis doesn't know how to play the game.
>>544127924Japen loves BASS is a BA clone (complete with shitty greedy release)Japen loves SS, they start slurping despite the >3k per 10x rollAlso, the land of cucks, shit taste, etc.
>>544127960isnt fgo the least auto battler archaic piece of shit out there
>>544127924>SS: $2M>CZN: $1MHuh it should be the other way around
>>544127912Yeah I also had the same issue, you have to delete their basics if you want to run them with Rin, keep the heal it's always helpful.Rin's kit is a bit too restrictive you can always use "Dark Mist Inner Art" to keep her Dark Mist even if another character attacks but yeah wish she was a bit more powerful to balance things out, as a Rin enjoyer it makes me want to kms sometimes.
Which one?
>weekly boss damage reduction doesn't work against extra attackslol. Veronica wins again
what memory fragment should I farm for renoa? the 1 cost crit damage one?
>>544126664The hidden event in Chaos 2 where a million bugs were terraforming the land and we either gather data or dive in, it gives divine epiphany or copy card for 2 curse cards
Does pity carry forward to the next banner?
>>544127836Honestly I don't knowRin requires her cards to be always on your hand, which is not possible with 2 supports flooding your hand every single time I don't have Renoa so I can't really compare
>>544128096SS has been out for longer and these graphs are horse shit
>>544127820>duped power chargenigga what are you doing?
WHAT DOES SAVE DATA LOW MEAN
>>544127924They know gook AI sloppa when they see one. Why play Nikke clone when Nikke exists? Just look at Rin. Straight out of Nikke but processed through ChatGPT.
OH MY FUCKING GOD STOP GIVING ME DUPES OF THE FREE CHARACTERS GIVE ME SOMEONE ANYONE NEW FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK WHERE THE FUCK IS MARIBELL WHERE IS NIA WHERE IS CASSIUS FUCKING FUUUUCCCCCKKKKK
>>544128268It's a measure of how fucked over you're going to get at the end when your deck in chaos doesn't fully convert to save data
>>544128268>save data low OH FUCK ANON QUICK BEFORE YOUR SAVE DATA IS GONE YOU NEED T-
>>544127726that's exactly what mine looks like
Now that the honeymoon phase is over, we cant beat Stella since you can just auto that shit
>50 posts about made up numbers every threadgreat general
>>544128268You saving party data on a 256MB thumbdrive.
>>544128295
>>544127469Higher rarity items used to have higher scaling in the playtest I dunno what fucking happened with that idea
who are we getting first?
>>544128295Retard.
>>544127805What do you mean anon?>>544127901Rei is her most important support. Her epiphanies are all about buffing void, buffing morale, and buffing 1 cost attacks. She makes the big nia/renoa ego skill turns much more explosive.
>>544128395This is every gacha game in the first week of launch, SEAniggers can't help themselves
>>544128414gayron's slave maid
>>544128414marianne for rin or asteria for haru
>>544128414>Partner None
>>544127574Use Nia instead of Mika to cycle faster I guess
So the mulligan armor has to be bis for pretty much everyone right? Doesn't matter what your gimmick is, universal card draw + hand manipulation is really strong.
>>544128414I wish Marianne was playable, why did they lock the best designs behind the fucking partners? So annoying
>>544126664>meet a guy who's tied up to a wooden stake that begs you to find a key to open a chest which has a way to get him down>find the key but there's three chests>open a chest but the key breaks>he says you must be joking as you leave him there to die because there's NO OTHER POSSIBLE WAY to get him down from a wooden stakeNo sanity loss by the way.
best support with mei lin?
>>544128489Wtf Kayrone is not a virgin?
>>544128642The only virgin character in the game is the MC
>>544128169Left is extremely good and gives +20% damage for the entire fight on turn 1 but I have never ever had that effect stay once I left chaos.I'd probably choose middle.
>>544128489I want to fuck Kayron's slave maid behind his back.
>>544128489I see... The E7 shipdevs are back at it again huh
>>544128683KEK
>>544127960>>544127972>>544127975>>544127992>>544128043>>544128059>>544128064>>544128096>>544128285Why do anon like replying to SEApag ESLs?
>>544128192That one is fine, alternatively farm the void one and you can enjoy the bonus by either sacrificing one of the bullets or using neutrals that exhaust, but you probably want to wait until you have access to difficulty 5 before you start farming
Stella Sora will have a dev livestream to revive the hype today....Should we be worried...?
I might skip this game. 10 rerolls and not one good 5 star getting pulled. Hell not even more than 1 by now. On top of the 4 stars not even synergizing or being supports instead.
>>544128714Honestly, he acts like a fucking robot.
>>544128683True, the devs need to fix that.
>>544127924Looks like we're getting a selector next week after all...
>>544128446>Rei is her most important support.TY.
>>544128414Are 5* partner even that strong? Something tells me that a maxed out 4* partner is better
>>544127126Saving for her. Thank you for showing me this I almost spent gems on the basic banner to get my Skelton
>people seriously think Orlea isn't the best healerHoly shit, this bitch is BROKEN with the knife girl.
>>544128537thats the best way to get 5* partnersrolling on the standard partner banner is a bad idea because there's no sparking like the character banner
>>544128816Unless you're pulling Orlea or Luke everyone else is useable. Game's pretty balanced so just roll who you like.
>>544127992Explain Uma Musume.
>>544128920If only I had her....Tressa is my favorite favorite to use
>>544128956>gameplay>Uma Musume
>>544128920People aren't done jacking off to Mika since she's more universal
>>544128920The problem is Mika exists, and in that setup Nia also fits.
wtf is the point of Nia if all her shit just discards cards?
>>544124539I use her with KhalipeMass AoE damage with Khalipe + Shielding while you charge up Beryl's Retain cards in your hand
>>544128994Post your Champion's Cup results.
>>544128956I like Uma Musume but the gameplay is pretty braindead
>>544127625>>544128446Which is better for Renoa, Mika or Nia?
i was rerolling and i got manifest 5 Tressa, but got LUKE'd from beginner banner.Do these two have synergy with each other...? I'm really pissed I got the ONE five star I would've fucking hated starting with out of 10 characters
>>544128948My desire censor was on bunny, meta girl or at least our go to main girl. Even then I would settle at 2 decent 5 stars since like you said they are all good. I am not pulling any other 5 star besides the given starter max pull.
>>544128818we will get a snowbreak-tier rewrite soonOwen will die in chapter 6 or get completely erased from existenceGirls will somehow have met and been saved by MC before and fall in love with himWe will also get canon sex implication and marriages with the main girls
>>544129197Reroll it's not worth it starting an account with characters you dislike
>>544129236I doubt something like that will ever happen anon, smilegate is not very good at handling ML stuff.
anyone have a good Beryl deck to show off?
>>544129067here
>>544128948>Game's pretty balanced so just roll who you like.explain Rin>>544129236>>544129326it boggles the mind they're not jealous of Nikke's success, why not just copy it
>>544129236>Girls will somehow have met and been saved by MC before and fall in love with himIs this a common trope? I know it happens in Wuwa, but when it also happened in ZZZ I brushed it off as a coincidence.
>>544129053I'm not totally sold on her, but she has some cheesy ways to activate cards for cheap and 1 dupe makes her curiosity skill 0 ap. Being able to delay a card til next turn with adagio is cool too if you don't g chord it afterwards.It's really soul rip and mute accent that feel really awkward to use
>>544129370They probably think they're too good for that.
>>544129236At least having mind broken girls sneaking into your quarters at night would be interesting.
im going to start rerolling tomorrow any suggestions who to stop with or is khalipe good enough
>>544129086Team building is pretty complex, especially when you are factoring in what everyone else is bringing. Even outside of CC you still need to think about your teams since you don't want your styles to overlap. CZN just has the advantage of being new. It'll be figured out much quicker than Uma.
>>544128446I tend to favor Cassius over Rei because Cassius as a draw/discard engine provides a lot more damage and better hands overall.
>>544129367Why is her blood black here when they already showed Rei getting turned into a red meatball?
Is there anywhere where you can view the battle live 2d animations? This fatty has some great battle animations.
>>544129460your taste but I'll be damned if I settle for just having 1 5 star I dislike to start off everything.
I love big stupid numbers bitch
>>544129593whats the point of big stupid numbers if its not enough to kill it lmao
>>544129593>reroll 20ish times>didnt get a HaruNightmare ongoing....
>>544128791Yes. But not because of Stella Sora. The state that both these games released in basically means they're both probably dead. They released two unfinished projects and no amount of backpedaling is going to save them.
>Uma>You watch characters run on a track field>>>>>>>>>>>It's complicatedLmaoBraindead behavior go kys cydrone
>>544129370Simple, they don't want the same audience or they just listened to their female employees.E7 is full of shipping so I guess they wanted to the same here since people didn't care in that game.
They need to get rid of the JKs. We can have big titty teenagers without them being tied to schoolwanking
>>544129656>rerolling on rate-up bannerYou dumbo. You're meant to reroll on the Standard Banner.
>>544129682E7 was released 7 years ago when NTR was trendy
>>544129718>They need to get rid of the JKsGay, homosexual even.
>>544129519this, I also really want to goon to the full partner arts
I feel fucking GREAT now.Finally made a wonderful build for my Orlea forever proving she is the best support in the game.Tier list makers better be watching since she is the BEST.Apologize for doubting the nun
so.... who else are protos? or are we the only one protos? sorry im skipping the stories
>>544129718What's wrong with JKs? They're a money tree
I want Renoa so fucking bad...
>>544129735What is the difference with the standard banner? Start up rewards at 50 and everyone says pursue that 2nd after 40 on standard. Why?
So are you guys rolling on the standard partner banner or is that retarded?
So does pity expire between banners? Or is it literally like the hoyochink system
>>544129831"We are John zero, SS nightmare, Captain. fighting chaos gods that have taken over all planets (Humans live in space now) with tech that saves us right before we die, The chaos gods are not "evil" persay, seems lots of people seem to follow them, but we still have to kill all the chaos. Oh also there's a lot of factions and in fighting but thats ok, John Zero and my wife Mika will someday kill the chaos"
>story is shitThis isn't good in the long term they need a rewrite, gameplay is great but that's not enough.
>>544128920what makes her so good?
When did NTR start being a male interacting with a female? Was it the gooks who started this trend?
>>544129893DUMBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ROLL ALL YOUR ROLLS ON STANDARD BANNER, IF YOU GOT YOUR WANTED 5* THEN KEEP THE ACCOUNT AND HOPE FOR THE BEST YOU'LL GET ANOTHER 5* IN THE BEGINNER BANNER. IF YOU DIDNT GET ANY 5* ON STANDARD, THEN REROLL.
>>544129831There are multiple protos and they are trained and augmented in whatever Imperial place and after a mission they dump what they learned into a digital network. And that data is used to create Zero system.
>>544129735I started this game for Haru and I still dont have her. Im being patient here I dont want to spend yet
>>544129972>can spam daggers thanks to her and kill literally everything>wHaT maKEs hEr SO GoOd
So I've got a bunch of Crystals and Rescue Anchors. Should I be saving them up for some reason or should I just pull whenever I have them? Also do you need Haru to complete the event? Thanks bros.
Tressa rate-up next bannerdupes will make her even more bustedtrust
>cant get decent 5* let alone two...This rerolling is gonna take a while isn't it?
>>544129868They don't fit the horror setting of Chaos Zero Nightmare. Their presence in the chaos while wearing school uniform ruins the atmosphere, trivializes the dangers of chaos, and turns the entire thing into school field trip so trivial that even kids could endure.
>>544129994Chinks seething at mihoyo devs because they gave bunny costumes to foreign pigsbunny costumes = prostitution and honkai characters apparently whoring themselves out according to chinky dicklets
>>544130063Mika does that better though.
>>544130063>spam 0-cost low damage daggers>enemy action counter keeps counting down and attacking youYour point?
>>544127924japan dislikes gooks stuff
>>544130194that's why you pair her with counter attackers and shielders
>>544129994When gaming audience shifted from millennials to fragile zoomers.
>>544129898no thats retarded. combatants are far more important because you need as many as you can to make multiple synergistic teams in endgame.
>>544130167>turns the entire thing into school field trip so trivial that even kids could endure.Are we playing the same game? All of them have mental breakdowns
game has good gameplaywhat issues does it have
>>544130029The fuck are you on about. It's not like you can't get a 5 roll on any pull you do leading up to max on the standard banner. You will also get to see what your 2nd 5 star is straight away. Wtf is the logic for the standard pulling?
>>544130194>caring about HPWho cares, so long as the enemy is dead, shitter.You don't gain any points for being 100% HP.>>544130193>spends AP to heal>can only heal based around cards on handYeah no, passive healing is always superior.Show me Mika producing SIX fucking daggers
>>544129236I'm glad CZN become our new home MLbros after Snowbreak betray us.
>>544129994It's the Chinese whose dicks are so small that they think their waifu interacting with ANYONE, male or female, is them being cucked.
>>544130316Hugo and Haru should've never been in the game.
>>544130167ya, the "its a grimdark game" is 100% just for marketing, pretty happy go lucky world honestly. Hell, half the "cults" you come along seem to be pretty nice guys living along side chaos just fine.
>>544130323*beginner banner. From what I saw beginner banner is unlocked for everyone as well unless the pool is larger cause more supports.
>>544130316Shit rates and boring character design
just to be clear on the gameplay loop so i'm not misunderstanding>progress on story and missions as far as you can>spend stamina on upgrading units>do dailies and weeklies>do city minigame and related stuff>do chaos dungeons which has rng upgrades that you can keep based on rng in order to get a power boost outside of chaos dungeons>some endgame mode i haven't unlocked yetso aside from rolling on units i need to spend time praying for a good loadout from chaos dungeons? is there any mechanic to reduce the rng, or am i supposed to just try and pray?
>>544130326>Yeah no, passive healing is always superior.The clip you posted isn't passive healing. You had to use the retain effect card which costs APGenerating 6 daggers means you duplicated the shadow dagger upgrade card which provides a dagger per heal. In that setup, Mika would be able to provide 4-6 daggers per turn in comparison to you needing to draw your one copy of Growth Acceleration
>>544130297Surviving and recovering means they were able to endure it, not to mention they handled it at the same rate as seasoned veterans. Haru casually waltzes into the chaos and does 1,5k damage hits against eldritch horrors and you're telling me this was supposed to be a grimdark horror setting?
>>544130316no fanart in the foreseeable future
>>544130194>0-cost low damage daggersThose daggers are like 350 damage each if you build right
Nobody got killed though so why y'all complaining about not dark enough when the premise of the story your real body remain safe.
Why did they spend so much effort with the in-game art, when the character designs are so unremarkable? You would think a gacha game would do it the other way around.It legitimately baffles me how there's Vannilaware-tier art with the monsters and background accompanied by generic AI generated character designs.
>>544130326what is the interaction that spawns 6 daggers?
>>544130580That post was generated by AI.
>>544130316Terrible mtl where there are 3 different translations of some gameplay terms
>>544130502Who cares I just want my huge titty JKs in a horror setting crashing out and counseling them sluts
>Passion Void Instinct bla blaJust call it Fire Dark Earth you fucking gook
>>544130580In game art looks super AI too dude just look at the spaceship and all that
>>544130489Toughies will stay in my hand you fucking dipshit, and they themselves will produce daggers PASSIVELY.So while you're stuck having to draw for your shitty Mika cards, and hoping you manage enough to create 1 dagger a turn and wasting AP on it, I will have toughies passively creating daggers AND then have burst daggers from my heals.That card isn't the only card Orlea has retain cards on hand after all, she has her 2cost cost that activates all retain effects on hand AND heals you ontop of it, meaning she herself produces daggers.So not only is Orlea capable of bursting with daggers she can passively create daggers and not waste AP letting me to use other moves.APOLOGIZE stupid bitch
>>544129460mei lin is pretty godlike, plug and play in any teamcan build around her or just have her be a sub dps
There's no way they're letting free characters stay good. How likely are gooks at nerfing shit?
>>544129370you want orlea and rin together doebeit and orlea works for a beryl dps too
>>544129236>ch6too late, owen already fuck them
>>544130810nerfing? not likely.creating retarded tier boss mechanics? likely.
>>544130810They don't need to nerf anything, just make the new chaos and monsters harder
I just realize the percentage of recovery from mental care event affect your save data. I lost my copied card because I think I didn't get a 100% recovery.
Many anon-chama’s trauma seems to be AYYYYYY EYE
Is there any way to paypig for more research notes?
Does pity carry between banners? Or do I need to do single rolls for max efficiency?
Honeymoon phase is over huh
>>544130734I'm not talking about the main menu, man.
theres not a single normal cc playing czn for the sts aspects its all gacha nigger tubers...
>>544130918just use shock theory
>>544131027It's a gacha game
>>544129930>>544130973nyoo
can i redeuce their stress by fucking them?
are there any autistic theorycrafter docs yet? fuck gachatubers
>>544130973Pity doesn't carry over
>>544129930>>544131076idk what those niggas are talking about but just read it
>>544131068i mean uma had that bald fag prop it up
>>544131027This is too much of a gacha instead of a proper sts clone. When I first played sts blind, I got absolutely demolished. This is just too easy so it won't scratch that itch.
Does pity carry over between banners?
What the hell am I supposed to be doing with Orlea? I didn't realize how low her attack is, even with the attack slime at like 600% she does like nothing.
>>544131214No
>>544131214Yes
read nigga read
>>544131214Maybe
>>544130580Devs should stick with the classic adage of "less is more".They're so desperate to make this game stand out they're throwing tens of unremarkable designs in hopes that at least one will go viral. But this decision only drowned all the good designs while highlighting all the bad ones.For example, Orlea is objectively a good design : her outfit is complicated but not messy, she has consistent theme (nun), with a personality that fits (lazy). But then they designed other big titty hags who are more revealing (Maribell) while putting Orlea besides overdesigned trash like Azelante, so she simply got drowned.There is also a severe lack of contrast between NPCs/partners and actual playable combatants, and this shit is harming the combatants. In other games usually the NPCs/partner support dress simple and have plain faces, but in CZN everyone dresses like they want to stand out more than the combatants.It's like a wedding but the bride is overshadowed by 10 other women who all intentionally wore bright and revealing outfits.
>>544131243you hold it until 1.5k+ to expect anything of value but you just discard it with cassius
>>544131214no idea bwo. if it follows e7 it might not...
Is there any other use for Manuals than dismantling into promotion material?
>the only monthly pack is 10 standard rolls>no discounted monthly pack for crystals or limited rollsHoly shit this game is so fucking bad.
>>544131284Nta but with the shitty translations I don’t trust that shit
>>544130810The good 4* supports are the crutch.If supports were locked behind 5* the game would be unplayable.You already need to roll 5* dd for different elements for the endgame.
>>544131214>>gook gacha No
>>544130787>they themselves will produce daggers PASSIVELY.is this an orlea or a tressa thing because it makes no sense this is happening
Japs are complaining Chaos is too hard they're going to nerf this shit aren't they
Bros I should go with the one on the right, right?
>>544131153Are you 40 yet? You get chaos with random mods and you can pick a new one after winning at a higher level, scaling up to level 100 at least I think. Also has its own meta progression and higher datacaps.
how do you beat this nigger?? its not fair at all and not even an elite
>haru is added to the standard banner when her banner ends Hoeh? Is that how e7 does it?You can get limiteds on the standard banner? Or is haru like yumemizuki where shes technically a standard just not yet.
downloading rn, quick question, for rate up banner, spark or pity? if pity, does it carry over to next banner?
>>544131456AoE the first wave of mobs, then burst the fuck out of the big one before the 2nd wave can kill you
>>544131461as stated by the devs only hyper limiteds are collabs or xmas halloween summer related combatants
>>544131461They're not the 'true' limited. I heard e7 got the seasonal limited that is actually limited.
>>544131461>Haru is added to the standard banner when her banner endssource?
>>544131456focus the guy on the back
>>544131535Huh That's interesting. Ive only ever played mihoyo gacha so its weird to me. Thanks bwo.
>>544131456I just realized that Kayron and Rei have similar colour scheme are they related or something?
>>544131501its both you can pity but you can also spark up to your second dupe which is worth 40 rolls of the 4 star dupe currency
>>544130431No, just pray.
4chan has a card
>>544131501pity carries over, like genshin.rate up banner with its own pitystandard banner with its own pityfuture hyper limited banner with its own pity
>>544131624they have sex frequently yes
>>544131440>Cassius and Nia in C-tier trust me bro>Reeeee why is the game so hard?retards
what cards are considered a "buff"?
>>544131541The last point is the source Basically they all get added to standard after their banner unless, if I understand what the other anons are saying correctly, they are true limiteds like collabs or events.
>>544131440The devs don't actually listen to any feedback. they just throw darts on their cool ideas board and work based on what they hit. Thats how we have a sticker system integrated into every aspect of the game instead of a legible translation and good UI.
>>544131725Cassius and Nia are ugly they noted that on their tier lists
>>544131456>KayronOkay>ReiOkay>Beryl??????????? Your megacarry is right there, why would you bring another one
no way are they making a banner last 3 weeks...
Under the comments of CZN JP Twitter they are asking for skip feature, chaos difficulty nerf, and auto battle chaos so they don't have to play the game.
>>544131801I believe this 100%. Surely, someone from the CBT already pointed out the janky translations, yet this is still what we ended up with.
>>544131868She will go straight to standard bannerThat's how these games roll. This is different than hoyoslops
They fucked up making Mika and Tressa broken
check out my agony beryl
>japs getting filtered by sts gameplay Love to see it. So far the games been pretty easy. Just hit 30. >>544131948Its nice having strong 4*s.
>>544131912>play the sts gacha>complain about the sts mode
>>544131912>dev going to remove an entire gameplay because brain dead retard keep complainingThe moment ZZZ remove the tv section the game is dying.
>>544131440It's so over
>>544131868Banners can Overlap in this game
>>544131912>woman profilePost her roster, /czn/
>>544131912Lmao, japs really are 90% retards and 10% geniuses, no in between.
>>544131801>sticker systemKek so this is why the texts are so blurry
>>544131125but 50/50 does
Has anyone been able to beat Chaos Difficulty 4 on Deep Trauma mode yet? I'm jobbing near the end in the interior every time by a "normal" mob....
>>544131920it was definitely the most brought up issue in global
>>544131440The scaling seems off.By the end of the run if you don't have a broken build (that you only can get through epiphany rng) you are probably getting raped.
>>544131428????Do you not know how toughies work?They heal passively, and daggers are produced by healing
>>544132038shut it ojisan the game is now more in line with hi3 you can just keep playing wizdaph for your dungeon crawling fix
>>544132091indeed. there's a great blog about it.
>>544131912>>544132043I need an Easy Modo edit with Cassius and Nia
how orlea/rin/beryl ? would adding beryl into that team be better than a buffer like rei, for example?
>>544132043i feel like you have to save resource for game ending scenarios and press rest for heals like every other roguelike you really just aim to not lose the next round
>>544131912>>544132063>this is the average player
I really hope they don't fucking nerf Chaos. Gooks have always been know for creating hard and grind-heavy games.
>>544132130of course
>>544132208Just make a easy mode for progression sake that nukes the save file.
>>544132242show your nia deck
>>544132170Why would you pick Beryl with Rin? Rin is a selfish dps, at least use Selena or the f*rry. But yes, Rei is better than Beryl.
>>544131912that explains why so many gacha games are braindead japs cant into any amount of difficulty
Does [remove] mean that once you use it it's permanently gone from your deck?
>>544132242>all lvl 40Ok, WHALE
Game would've been better if it's a 4-man party
>testing Haru damage>Anchor shot deals 250% damage >Ok>If I use Anchor Rise it deals 425% damage >250% * 170% = 425%>Ok>Don't use Anchor rise, Target an armored enemy weak to water, it deals 375% damage >250% * 125% * 120% = 375%>Use both>Expected damage: 250% * 125% * 120% * 170% = 637%>Result = 594%WHY DOES HARU SUCKS AT MATH SO MUCH?I even removed her partner to make calculation easier and it still doesn't add up
>>544132198You thought it's just one person but all the comments are along the lines of "please lower the difficulty" AIEEEEEEE
>>544132208Let's be honest, the vagina monster and the dogwalker are overtuned as shit
>we finally get gacha game with real gameplay>retards want to turn it into auto battleslopIt's really sad that these brain dead retards are mostly whale, dev going to kneel for their money.
>>544132313i thought it might be fine because orlea has synergy with both rin and beryl, and rin doesn't have much trouble activating her stance after her potential
>>544132198this wont survive in JP lol
Can't wait to start farming Gold Gera.15% critchance already is pretty good
>>544132198this is why some good gachas end up becoming just brainless. Tribe nine filtered a bunch of people and they lowered the difficulty I hated it so much
>>544132303Here, but it's obviously nerfed.>>544132336Only Renoa was 40 when I cleared, I'm f2p.
>>544132438If they nerf the difficulty and turn it into an average gacha I will just stop playing.
>>544131912>japs zoomer too dumb to play kusoge>japs salarymen too busy playing wizardryGrim outlook
>>544132385Just... dont look at the numbers bwo. They probably make sense, its just theres some scaling somewhere that trips it up. Monster defense or something idk. Just know bigger number = better
>>544132130I've done all maps in nightmare Chaos 4 with two comps, one with Haru, and three with Renoaboth rely on the mika/cassius combo crutch
>>544132461Wizardry Daphne is 3x harder and more unapproachable than this game. But it's doing fantastic in JP.It just takes time for people to understand the game mechanics.
>>544132208if you find chaos hard just do a low level, the level 40 mode is literally chaos but harder
>>544132479If you click the upgrade % icon it'll open a table that shows you all the potential rolls for legendaries and the probabilities and what not. Surprised they didn't put a more noticeable icon for that.
reminder that this exists
>>544132043Nips play like 15 different gachas per day, any game that doesn't let them log-in, dailies and log-out in less than 2 minutes is dead there
>>544132130>>544132576this comp
If you used food buffs you didn't beat the game
>>544132670I dis it for Maya
>>544132534wizardry also does not slack in the designs compartment
4* team btw
>>544132670That's the only soul this game has
why do you play this AI sloppy slop slop?
If you used Orlea gimmick, you're not really playing the game.
>>544132759everything is gonna be AI slop in the coming decade anon, I don't really give a shit anymore.
>>544132759I love ntr
>>544132585wizdaph is also a super popular IP in nippland
>>544119021>>544119115A bit of time. Rerolling is busted, just look at my lineup You can't tell me this isn't worth a dozen hours of rerolling spread over a couple of days. The amount of enjoyment I am going to get back with this investment is insane.
>>544132741DoT mogs Retain style hard.
If you used a 4* support you didn't beat the game.
this thing is a run ender. avoid blue pot interior battles
>>544131912if they ever nerf it, I hope they make an option insteadmake it so you can choose easy mode like a fucking bitch or play the game the way it was intended
3 more resets fuck this game.
>30 rerollsI can finally play
Right now its fun and fresh But in a few months time doing 4 chaos runs a week seems like it'll be brutal. Its easy, but they all take a while to do.
>Stress of all 3 girls maxes at the same time>Instant game over
play every outbreak of war cardd on the first turn, right?
>>544132839There is already an easy option, you simply turn off the trauma mode and pick lower difficulty stages. The problem is they can't even figure out how a kit works. They just want to auto battle.
>>544132818were you using blue stacks with multiple instances for this?
>>544132854>no signature partnerbricked
>>544132863You can just skip them you know after you have some decent save data. They only give exp and common mats both of which are going to be plentiful in the future.
>>544132863Wait, is it not 2 runs per week? You use the ticket on the first floor and then the second one.
>>544132873
>>544132702I'll give it a try, thanks!
>>544132914Generally, yesUniversally, no
the fucking SSR of this game look like SR...everything look so boringwhy some of them wear high school clothes? white men just fucking love JK?
>>544132949anon meant 4 passes for rewards daily
>>544132936Partner banner is guaranteed so im good
>>544132914If you don't get hit for 500+ because of action meter.
>>544132961gay nigga, be gone.
>>544132863It's not even 4 chaos runs. Defeating a chaos boss lets you use a ticket and chaos 3 and 4 on harder difficulty has two bosses each.Even if you don't want more optimised save data once your characters are at level 60 you will absolutely steamroll those earlier 2 boss runs within 10 minutes.
>>544132935No, I did it on my phone casually while watching movies or generally focusing on other stuff.
You WILL farm gear to be able to use your potentials
>>544132863That's up on the devs to generate enough assets through AI that they can release one new chaos per patch, enough to contain 16 runs per month.
>>544132863I actually shouldn't play these kinds of games. Gacha's are whatever and but roguelikes are like crack to me. I'm going to go slow though until I hit max level. I just lost half an op deck that I'm hoping I won't at max level. It's also taking me forever because I stopped running memories and raw stats are screwing me over more than anything else.
>>544132759>Reverse 1999 is AI>NOOOOOOOOO SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP>CZN is AI>Yes.
>>544132972It's 4 passes per week.
>>544132961>white men just fucking love JK?
>>544133092R1999 at least looks polishedthis one looks kinda, idk. Rough?
What are the go-to cards to remove from your deck? I've been removing shields cards from my DPS but I'm not sure if it's optimal
>>544132961We need more males. They will make the game less boring.
>>544132950>"My loadsaretoo strong foryou, traveler."
>>544133046Fuck me it just means I am cursed. It has happened before badly to me once before. Saber Alter 4 star banner and wanting more than just 2 of her.
>>544132535WHAT DO YOU MEAN DON'T LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S A NUMBER GAME, THE TITS ARE THERE JUST TO DISTRACT YOU FROM MATH, DON'T LET THE TITS WIN
>>544132741Tessa, Cassius and ???, probably Mika?
>>544133162It's optimal, the 2 basic attacks and the shield/heal usually can just go.
>>544118054Any good feet in this game?
>>544133162It is, removing the basic cards is also generally advisable for characterd that don't care if them.Exceptions are obviously Rin since she needs them for consistency and maybe Magna since they give her counterattack as well.For characters with more basic basics, you usually just remove them.
>>544133162You'd have to talk about your units. I'd remove basic cards from supports. Cassius' are so bad especially the 2 drop that does nothing but a 30% chance to draw a card.
>>544132923>The problem is they can't even figure out how a kit works.There is simple solution for this add build recommendation in game like OP GG in LOL where we can see people build and etc.
>>544133107What do you mean passes? You can do Chaos anytime, but only have 4 chances to get rewards. It's why their called Loot Certification Card.
>>544133194https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c
>>544132950Does this shit only happens if you play deep trauma mode? What happens if you die in deep trauma mode? Everyone gets mindbroken?
>>544133282Unfortunately not yet, the one major flaw of the game. But if E7 is anything to go by will should be getting some in the future.
>got a hugo dupeGIVE ME 1 REASON WHY I SHOULDNT UNINSTALL RIGHT NOW
>>544133287And Mei Lin that needs them for ember stack, or draws 2 of them at 0 cost.
>>544133384Give me that hugo dupe.
>>544133005I think animations alone, even if you're 2 tapping enemies will still take more than 10 minutes to get to the first boss. But even still if its 40 minutes a week, doing content thats really easy. But what im talking about is months away. If im having fun doing it for months, thats better than 99% of games nowadays. Hopefully that gives the devs enough time to come up with ways to keep it fresh.
>>544133384Uninstall
>stamina gated
>>544133282Strangely, no. Havn't seen any feet. Probably because AI is DOGSHIT at feet.
>>544133412anon that sounds gay
>>544133384rerolling is an option
>>544133384He is meta and will help you farm resources for upcoming waifus.
>>544133384I'd love to have Hugo dupes.
>>544133162Read their kits and potential, Kayron is good example for someone who doesn't need basic cards because all his damage come from his unique cards.
>>544133382>>544133443Damn. :( OK then, worth it to reroll if I want an easy start? OR can I just dickpull?
NEW THREAD
Leave the Chaos to us
>>544133205You are not cursed, rng is just like that. I got exceedingly lucky with 6 5* characters by level 30, but you could easily have rerolled for an account with 4 of them at a similar point.For example in all my rerolls I never saw once Rin and Orlea before this account, and I only ended up getting Rin in this account last by complete luck. I still haven't seen Orlea at all in any of my rerolls.Meanwhile I saw half a dozen Renoas and Kayrons
>>544133343Nigger I have no clue why you're responding to me. Anon's original post is around if people will bother doing 4 chaos runs a week, another anon said there are "4 passes daily" which I corrected to 4 a week.
ahhh I want selena!
>>544133553stop posting dogshit bro
finding it hard to do chaos 3 dt with orlea/beryl/Mika, does this comp suck or do I just swallow
>>544133520Start is easy no matter what you roll, it's at lvl 30 that you start getting some difficulty, but unless you are extremely unlucky, you should be good with what you get. Just save your crystals for delicious toes and enjoy the good gameplay at your leisure.
Why did they waste such good designs on partners?https://arca.live/b/chaoszeronightmare/151745639
>>544133618take my dupes
>>544130104Someone please respond.
>>544133721Yeah, all the battlepass partner girls are all hot as fuck. I hope we get an evil girl faction... man I love evil demon girls...
>>544133384Hugo is LITERALLY the only character that matters now
>>544133765uh yes
>>5441336802 supp with 1 sub dps, you tell me bro
>>544133721They could easily make them playable. E7 announced playable characters of their partner equivalents recently.You probably will only be able to use either the partner or playable version though.
>>544133520Pulls %s are notoriously dog shit, but yes, rerolling is a good idea. Resets take 20-25 minutes. You get something like 12 character-banner pulls and 40 pulls from the general pool.If you're willing to go for the 5%~, get Haru with your first 12 pulls. That will still wrack you up 10-30'ish resets. Then you'll get the limited resources to stack up for the next characters banners which are all suppose to be semen demons .
>>544133680>2 healersGet a real dps. Replace Mika with Tressa or something.>>544133765You save crystals for the rate up banners, use the normal rescue anchors on the banner as you please, but limited units will go to the standard banner fyi. You don't need Haru to do the event.
>>544133765Purple rescue anchors and crystals should be saved for characters you really like on banners. Like haru right now. The orange ones, you can either save or use up. Its probably best to save, if you already have good teams, but its up to you.
how would you briefly describe this game? gacha slay the spire / darkest dungeon?
>>544133843Last time I rerolled you were getting like 20 limited pulls totally with all the new gibs.
>>544133821wait beryl isn't a straight dps unit?
>>544133918with some really sloppy translation and art, yesbut gooning and it's also quite light hearted outside of combat
>>544133918Gacha Slay the Spire / Chrono Ark with some Darkest Dungeon mechanics.
>>544133894>>544133910Thanks bros. I'm currently struggling with the second Chaos. My team is Rin/Orlea/Nia. Not sure what to do!
>>544133979>sloppy translation and artahh shit that really blows>>544133981cool
>>544133943she needs to sit on her cards before she can do good damage. Sometimes you just can't afford 1 turn of no damage. Her job is to unload when your real dps doesn't have the cards
>>544130104i mean its more if you want to roll for Haru. Who is good. But Yuki comes out in aprox 2-3 weeks and she was pretty good in the test beta. She's gonna be Green, which kinda needs an attacker, and also doesn't as Hugo is pretty goodYou do not need Haru for the event
>>544133821>>544133894I see, thanks anons
I wish they told us what we get for fighting encounters, I can't tell if I should fight them or just go with the option.
>>544133984Remember to give them memory frags (don't have to level them up, but helps if oyu don't mind leveling trash you will replace), level their partner's, unlock their potential. If you have already done those, it could be a skill/comp issue, I dunno how Orlea or Rin function.
I have both Hugo and Tressa, I heard they're good together. What do I focus on doing?
>>544133918slay the darkest impactpunk
>>544134105wtf? babby's first roguelite?
>>544134018Very sloppy bro don't play it
>>544134149That isn't a helpful response!
Is the resolution for pc client a little smaller? Some of the speech bubble get cut off if its on the right side.
>>544133918Yup with a lot of ideas that doesnt add anything
>>544134057hmm yeah that makes sense, thanks
>>544133984As long as they are an appropriate level you should be fine. Getting potential 4 (the big node) is a pretty big power spike. Other than that just stick with it if you're having fun. These games are deceptively difficult. At least slay the spire is.
>>544134149he's kinda right if the reward doesn't change between runs
>>544134218normal encounters only give you money bro, you mainly do them for the chances to get epiphanies
>>544134130>>544134356I feel like I got a good grasp of how to play Rin but most of the time I'm at the mercy of what I draw and Rin is basically my only damage dealer. I try using Orlea's damage if I have a Dark Cloud Stance card ready but it's tough. I'll keep tinkering.
>>544134396Don't some encounters grant epiphanies if you fight them?
>>544134458Combat encounters? No, it's rng as far as I can tell.
>>544134450>most of the time I'm at the mercy of what I drawThis is why Nia and Cassius are the best characters in the game
hugo OP please
Do counter attacks count as extra attacks?
>Renoa from reroll>Mei from beginner banner>Rin from first standard pitydodged homos, but how do I play Rin
>>544134450Magna works really well with Rin if you have her. Maribell is okay as well, she has more attack cards though.
>>544134450Also pay attention to what the enemies are doing. This game doesn't really emphasize that enough. I think if you hold click on them it'll show buffs. For example the flying enemies usually do a fuck ton of damage and also take less, but if you hit them 3 times in a turn they get stunned and take full damage. They are basically ripped directly from sts.
WHY CANT I SEE THE MAP DURING CAMPSI WANNA KNOW IF I SHOULD REST OR GO TRAINING
>>544134586I meant like ones where you meet some people and get multiple options. Gear, coins, and whatever else. You can do one of the things or you can just attack them.
>>544134648>how do I play RinYou don't
>>544134396>>544134458>>544134586all combat encounters can give epiphanies. its best to prioritize unidentified areas as some give epiphanies that are selectable, and the chance for blessed epiphanies from special encounters (which can also of course even happen in Normal/elite battles)>>544134450Rin is your only damage dealer. Build AROUND that. Your entire goal with Rin is to keep stance up as a long as possible, build around draw and AP to make sure she can do that
Now i understand why we can't borrow friends combatants, the save file can't be saved.
>Colonel Hamburger gives Amir a 20% chance to counterattack if enemy attack was fully absorbed by shield. Amir herself attacks when shield is applied.
>>544134908>>544134908>>544134908
>>544134721Yeah, many of these do.
>>544134171Actually that is kinda bad
>>544132836I manage to surviventhrough this shit with mika healing with cassius haru
>>544120139You can add games to steam
>>544124350This anon skipped the prologue
>>544135286i-its n-not ai, bwos!!!
