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The Man in the Skybox Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-24-2025-update.87198/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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If a surrender is implemented, i think there should be patron voice lines admonishing you or urging you not to. What would some of those lines be?
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Nice, I was almost done baking on my own. Guess ritualniggers like you can do it after all !
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>>544139169
I think surrender posters should kill themselves and patrons need voicelines for this too
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Sex with the doorman
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When I have a pop off game and the enemy is having a meltdown, I like to check the replay to get it on that
Sucks you can't hear mic
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Cultist sacrifice should be usable on friendly heroes
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cultist sacrifice should be usable on myself
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>>544139278
Call me pigginnis because all I am is another farm for my teams haze
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>>544139398
youre not worth any souls
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What exactly is "it" that can no longer be controlled?
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>mirage,drifter,haze,vindicta and infernus on the same team
thx yoshi very fun game. thx for the autolose
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Mo is going to make me quit this game. Such hideous, disgusting character design.
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GIVE

ME

THE

FUCKING

DECEMBER

PATCH
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are any of the heroes canon into watersports
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>>544139335
wojaks are so boring
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Findom from Mina
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>>544140242
its october bru
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Billy pretty much only works at really low ranks and really high ranks.

Low ranks it's obvious, they don't know to parry/die to baits easily and they have no clue how to escape
But at mid ranks, Billy falls off because he gets parried so now you have to ACTUALLY learn how to play Billy but the issue is that at mid level players know the basics of the game but they're typically still very bad at looking at the map and/or very avoidant of fights that aren't guaranteed. Billy can't really do much then unless a full on team fight happens.
At high level, players are much more well coordinated and know how to look at a map and help collapse, this lets Billy do his job as being a beefy initiator who just creates chaos in a team fight and helps peel for the real damage dealers.
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>>544140367
I'm not american
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>>544140556
good for you, still october
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>Have a really really close match
>Both team fail to get a lead
>Eventually, the enemy team made a mistake and got 5 man wiped
>Their guardian dead & forest pillaged
>The team souls are now still more or less even
>Instead of playing more carefully, the enemies lost patience being trapped in their base, and tried to force a fight
>Failed
>Another 4 persons wipe + we go for midboss immediately
>They can't stop the snowball anymore
This is probably the highest quality game I have had in quite some time.
Why can't we always have this level of awesome game?
Instead, it's usually a one sided stomp game of "who has the retard?"
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>>544140750
that sounds like you did have a game of "who has the retard" though, the retard was just the entire enemy team.
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>>544140624
I'm in a different time zone.
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>>544139660
yep 20 min loss with 50k soul difference... insane
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>>544140881
Nah, you're obviously the retard.
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>>544140498
Inversely, Billy at mid ranks also gets a boost when people start parrying because they only know 'parry if Billy gets near you', so you just wait, they stun themselves, and then you slap them 5 times with impunity
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what's the point of building for gun damage when a lot of gun based heroes have abilities that increase their gun firerate/damage through buffs that scale with spirit?
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>>544140331
You're expecting brown children to be creative? Its either this or them spamming CP/BBC edits, pick your poison.
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>game crashes 15 times throughout the match
>PC finally blue screens
>Dont crash anymore and we win
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Are there cheats for auto-parry? There's a really suspicious paradox player in my match
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>laning with Mina as Drifter
>they spend all game on top of the bridge harassing instead of just aiming for creeps
>gets mad when we get denied a few times
Fuck you nigger Drifter has dogshit bullet velocity, get down here and secure it yourself
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>>544141713
I think so, I've gotten very suspicous parries when Playing billy since his light melee is very hard to predict. But then again maybe its just bad luck/skill issue.
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>>544139335
Gem
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>>544141713
I think melee and parrying is just fucked.
I've gotten melee'd from very far away, I've seen parries work and the animation plays AFTER I've already been stunned, I've had my melee miss entirely despite my model hitting players, etc.
Just about every scenario that can go wrong has gone wrong. Consistency on the other hand or whether or not it's just a simple latency issue I have no idea. I try my best not to get melee'd and I rarely melee myself avoiding those heroes because of said reasons.
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why does sinclair have the same base HP regen as mo and krill (3hp/s)?
seems a bit odd for him to just have the highest hp regen for no reason.
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>>544139335
Gemmy
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>>544141972
>>544142261
I hadn't parried at all during this laning phase and was just mincing her with my gun and decided to try and get a bit of extra damage with a quick light that she just parried out of nowhere. I hadn't even done a melee attack up to that point so unless it was just the most out of nowhere prediction I'm very curious
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I miss this nigga like you wouldn’t believe
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>nerf nerf nerf
Do they honestly believe this makes the game more fun?
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>>544142551
>victor player mad his E-shift is no longer broken af(as frick)
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>>544142551
yes, actually.
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>>544142551
Yes. The game itself is already fun. Remove the shit that makes it egregious rather than starting the powercreep war where every character has to get buffed
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>>544142551
Yes, actually. The nerfs took away egregious bullshit
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>>544142551
The only nerfs I mind are the movement shit
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>>544142551
Bro the six heroes came out all overtuned
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what is the item that blocks infernus afterburn?
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>>544143328
You think Paige is overtuned? She's pretty shitty
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>>544143635
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Ohhh i tried deadlock pre shop update, but ohhh the egregiousness, i can't stand the egregiousness
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>>544140750
>This is probably the highest quality game I have had in quite some time
only because you won. If you were on the losing side you'd be pissing and shitting complaining about a hero or a retarded teammate.
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>>544143635
huh
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>>544142551
The calico nerfs weren't enough actually, if I have to play against this over-tuned garbage I might punch something. Stupid fucking hero.
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>>544143938
Buy Slowing Hex and turn off 3 of her abilities
I hate her too but this has gotten me results
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>>544143635
i think paige is even more busted than billy
seems like someone's self-insert at valve
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>>544142551
yes, they need to lower the overall power level
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>>544142379
He's never been same ever since he became golden...
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>>544143803
Projection much?
I'm sorry that you're not mature enough to objectively judge if a match is good on both sides, or just one sided.
I bet you're the kind of person that feed & contribute nothing in the winning team and will still shamelessly shout "GGEZ" to all
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>every character has a unique status for when they’re in the hideout
Holy soul…
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i'm gonna play more shiv game and them i'm done
he's unplayable at low rank
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>>544144452
>I'm sorry that you're not mature enough to objectively judge if a match is good on both sides, or just one sided.
damn you really are a giant gaping faggot huh
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>play match
>girl speaks in voice chat, normal comms
>we're stomping, midway through all my teammates start being cringe trying to sex her
>eventually she stops talking but they keep being cringe
>we win, I type "fags" and she says "agreed"
thanks for reading my blog
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>>544145227
... and then they all clapped
I agree though
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>accidentally steal haze ult as sinclair
>get kelvin domed
>use it
>the kelvin drops the dome out of fear
nobody knows haze ult is fucking awful on sinclair, that shit does like 50 dps without fixation and haze's stupid fast base attack speed.
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>>544144010
>Buy Slowing Hex
I get that but for some heroes you're utterly desperate for slots.
Victor for example. Hell I would say it applies to Heroes like Billy too.
If I take Slowing Hex then it means a critical defensive items will be missed and then shit gets harder.
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>>544145462
It's 1600 to disable something on the majority of the roster, and in this case it straight-up disables Calico's ult
As a Billy main and a Victor dabler, you are not that pressed for slots. Sure you want an extra item more than someone like Calico that can get away with 2 core items + Cold Front and can go utility, but there's very few situations where you can't grab a utility item on any character if it just straight-up ruins whoever you're against

Even for laning, it means you get a free trade every time Hex is off CD and there's nothing she can do about it. That alone is worth more than most things you'd buy in lane for the same price
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>>544142551
Seven's balls got buffed.
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>>544143785
>>544143908
>>544144015
How do you play Paige? What's her playstyle?
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>>544142551
Pick a low tier god character and you don't have to worry about that stuff
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>>544142551
Dynamo got buffed
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>>544146096
Barely.
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>>544145956
It's really cringe how the characters keep using his "preferred pronoun" even when insulting/killing him
>Mina voiceline
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>>544146245
>>544145956
If Vyper doesn't get a "were/was" kill quote, the game is soulless
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>>544146245
As mentioned before, Vyper doesn't give a shit
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stupid sexy pocket
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only just started playing, going through each champ once and the b est game ive had was abrams, i must suck at fps lol
did the most everything by just pressing punch
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>>544146353
You sure?
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>>544146417
Melee in general is really strong, but you eventually get to a point where people will parry you on reaction. But Abrams is still really comfy because you can guarantee two heavy melees with his abilities, so there's no harm in learning him until you get your bearings
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>>544146467
considering how hard left hotpoo is, mispronouning him was probably a grave error.
the voice actor probably ad libbed that one and they just forgot.
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>>544146706
>they
Why did you call that woman a they... troon spotted
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>>544146794
they as in the people working on the game (plural).
it's not just one person that puts voice lines into the game, dumbass.
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>>544145858
Just imbue a bunch of shit to the shield
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>>544139335
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Is Sinclair worth learning? I love dumb ult stealing characters
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>>544143635
I think Paige is a noskill troglodyte hero meant to attract egirls and trannies and should be deleted from the game
>>544146467
Damn, Vyper was so close to being based
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>>544147832
I hate playing with Sinclairs in game just because their model is shit
I like ult stealing too but I couldn't touch them with the current model
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>>544147832
willing to bet he's first in line for a rework because his shit just sucks and doesn't feel good to play.
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I'm trying to learn box routes and none of this shit seems worth it
I get the value of it - push wave, do the fastest route nearby before the wave returns for that little bit extra. But honestly, I don't trust my team not to push the wave + I expect my teammate to lose half their hp in the meantime + there's no way I can do some of these routes in 30 seconds so I feel like I'm gonna lose at least one creep of souls. And at that point the routes are barely worth it for the risk
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>>544147898
Hey her 3+4 is fun though I don't think I'd ever play her outside the inhouse or to hide my powerlevel with friends.
>>544148217
I tend to be up 1k souls doing this ans never miss a wave, you might be going to far away from lane if you aren't up souls over your laner.
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Why did they remove death orbs, they made kills more satisfying and let the losing team recoup some souls
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>>544148749
the winning team can use it to stay ahead too.
sucks cause i kinda liked that and the orbs coming out of objectives too, if you can't get clean kills the other team deserves the opportunity to take some of it back.
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>>544149008
also it probably favored characters with fast shooting guns.
you can still do this on urn turn-ins and it's absolutely miserable to try and steal some of it when you have a shitty and slow gun.
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I just had the hardest match I've even had and it was 2 ranks lower than my average, what gives?
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>>544149296
you dont just melee the orbs?
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i have had so many subhuman drifters on my team in the past few days like what the fuck
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500 warden game celebration party at my house LATER tonight at 8PM
NO infernus players allowed (you will be vetted)
Bring some snacks if you're a generous anon, but rest assured i have lots of food n drink prepared for us to get wild...
again, no infernus players allowed. Sorry.
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>>544149439
melee the urn turn in when it's swarmed with enemies? good luck. the only reason to linger to try and steal the orbs is if you are outnumbered to try and lessen the lead gain.
if you were in the position to do that you would be better off meleeing the urn holder so they drop it.
and yeah i know you could melee all the souls when your teammate dies but that situation still favors people with fast guns since you aren't always in melee range of a dead teammate.
i think the better solution would have been to make souls gained through denying souls from objectives/dead teammates into unsecured souls instead of removing it entirely.
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>>544149410
Rest of your teammates were probably even lower than the displayed rank so you could balance them out while the enemy were all the same one
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THEY ONLY HAVE ONE SHRINE LEFT!
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@Grok replace Amber Hand's shrines with skibidi toilets
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>>544146925
But it is only one woman doing the viper voice and yourself said she adlibbed it so there'd be no one writing the line. You already slipped up and I know youre a tranny so just stop trying.
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>>544150164
trannies live rent free in your head, seek help.
i didn't even use pocket's "proper" pronoun in the first post.
you are fucked in the head.
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>>544112769
>somone was complaining about serens wraitg
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>>544146245
Lash doesn't.
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I'm going to miss the goofy shit from mods whenever it'll get canned
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>>544146245
There is cold-blooded killer and there is bigoted asshole, you don't have to be both
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>>544150365
Complaining that I don't get to kill the seeker players 20 times in a row because they've got a decent player on their team this time
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>>544150720
Yeah I don't get it we had plenty time to make a turn around and match quality improved 1000% when you don't get the team to do the optimal play of a 20m midboss.
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>Holliday inting
>Still has more damage than my nigfernus
You can not make this shit up
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>>544146245
Ah yes, the ''safe offensive'' quality of millenial writing. Don't forget every female hero telling Lash to stfu when he tries to hit on them, while Paige does just that with no repercussions. Tbh I'm ok with innuendos and dirty talk I just really fucking hate Paige, sex offender Vyper can stay
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>>544151214
infernus nerfs were a disaster for the bottom 80 percentile infernus players, but it had to be done.
those 0-9 infernus players are now 0-12.
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alright game too many niggers
even the regular people are voiced by niggers
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how steep is the curve to learning to setup my own models to use, or am i better off just seeing what other people have made available
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warden bros, how's it feel to win so often?
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>>544152058
I dunno he still feels really weak. You either become a ult bot and pray the enemy team brools like a retard or you're useless. I don't think his gun is all that good either.
I dunno how you'd balance this character to be fair, he's either always going to be useless or comically kelvin-tier OP with zero inbetween.
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>>544152434
>I don't think his gun is all that good either.
that's why you're losing
it's unironically one of the best guns in the game, the biggest downside to it is early attack speed because it's basically a projectile.
this is obviously a fed game, but hybrid warden has and will continue owning hard. Once you get merc magnum, you're killing people extremely fast. If you can get spiritual overflow before 30 minutes, the games over. You literally run in anyones face and just delete them.
Try the build above or any gun/spirit hybrid build and you might change your opinion on him
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>>544152638
He's my second main so I'll give it a shot. Do you have a particular build you think is best for Hybrid?
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>>544152810
yeah give purple mast warden a go, it should be in the most popular builds
not sure if he's updated it for the patch, but at most you might try to replace mystic shot now beacuse it got nerfed pretty badly
they added late game scaling on it, but honestly who's buying that item to scale it into late game lol? its for early poke only.
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>>544152638
What skill level are these games?
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>>544153014
shit elo, oracle 4 or 5 probably maybe phantom 1
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>>544152810
All those capes look like shit
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>>544152940
I'm giving it a overview and yeah it seems really promising. Late-game though I think you should scrap mystic shot (if you haven't already) and probably go for leech. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like it would go hard.
Thank you for showing the way anon. This looks way more fun.
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what's the go to geist build nowadays?
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>kill enemy in lane twice
>they get ult before us
souls make zero sense
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>>544153686
gl anon, i have over 500 games on him and almost a 60% win rate. have been playing warden tons since last year when I started in early august, he's awesome. Hope you get some wins with him
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>>544153781
during lane phase, if you are absent (die, getting bridge buff), but the enemy creeps don't die, you don't miss any souls
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it's one thing to have retarded teammates
but it hurts even more to be the retarded teammate
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>>544154654
I had to force myself to stop playing Billy because he's so good at getting himself killed if you miscalculate a dive
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geist is spirit warden
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>>544153747
gun
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I think Drifters ult is completely broken during teamfights
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>>544155487
It's theoretically the strongest ultimate in the game
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new item idea
whatever name
splits your abiltiies into multpiles like ogre magi
so mo and krill ult could potentially grab up to 3 people if they were clustered together
Opinions?
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So is spirit Doorman the way to go again after the gun nerfs. The headshot nerf seems like a pretty big deal but I dunno if the bell buffs are enough to focus on instead.
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I fucking hate how the idea of comeback in this game is praying the enemy team throws the fucking game because otherwise you're stuck at your base while they instaclean your jungle
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>>544155635
Bro your proprioception?
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>>544153781
>bro doesn't leave the lane to roll through boxes
you wanted to play with other players

rookie mistake
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>>544152058
you never played against vindicta or mina
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gonna go buy some trolli now
which one do i pick bros?
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If im playing Vinny and the enemy buys 3 knockdown, do I just accept my fate?
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>>544156581
For me its the wild berry
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Did they buff infernus or something? I was going from 2.5k hp with + 400 spirit barrier to zero from burn and toxic bullets and when he only had boundless and mercurial magnum
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>>544156636
You can buy debuff remover but it shouldn't be a necessity and is not worth it unless there are more things to remove in the round. If a knockdown leads to a kill you were out of position to begin with.
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Is there an even chance to deny? I feel like the other side has an earlier window to last hit.
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>>544147774
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>>544157598
it's latency, valve fucked it
i just feel better ignoring denying exists and think about enemy denys as fuck you valve moments
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>>544157598
It does. If you last hit the creep you've got a 100ms advantage.
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>>544139112
Why do we have have niggers in the game?
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>>544156581
I can eat a tub of strawberry Clouds
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>>544157731
wait you can last hit creeps?
stil ldoesnt explain how enemy can laser my last hits
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I think the eye opener for being better at making/using builds is really understanding that getting items that enhance your heroes strengths or reduce their weaknesses is FAR better than just getting stat sticks. Survivability and movement are often FAR better than items than getting stuff that increases your damage.

You'll end up having a far better time and genuinely see much better game performance when you choose utility items. Fleetfoot is something you see a LOT of at higher levels, this item does not provide much damage at all but the movement and to an extent the ammo just gives you SO much
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>>544157598
Confirmers have advantage on last hitting. Makes it harder for you to deny them and harder for them to deny you
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I've been watching 10-20 viewer japanese vtubers playing deadlock in the past 2 months
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>>544158160
LINK?
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>>544158676
No, they're mine to groom
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>>544158676
Just search Deadlock on Twitch there is a few
>>544158160
Do you even speak Japanese poser bitch
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>>544141742
>Laning with Infernus as Holliday
>Single-handedly harassing enemies to 20% health
>Constantly forcing one of them out of the lane
>Nigfernus still manages to get denied multiple times
Laning really isn't that hard. Just shoot the damn soul orbs.
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
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>>544157981
Fleetfoot is a crutch thobeit
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>>544159015
>>544158736
Why is this general filled with fags?
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>>544159074
>liking women is gay
ok "bro"
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>>544159131
groom is a faggot terminology
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Sharpshooter or Point Blank on gun Lash?
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>>544159074
who give a shit
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I think im cumming
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Sex with Geist
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>>544159353
Point blank since you'll be constantly in their face if you still slam them down
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>>544159450
Mmm... dry, cold and soggy.
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>>544159253
vtumors use groom when they're talking about making some low view streamer dependent on them financially
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>>544144305
>Golden Nigger Corp.
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>>544159074
Idk but I'm writing some Vyper x Paige noncon as we speak
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Its actually so fucking ballbusting well have to go through another month without a major update
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>>544159535
Like a good champagne
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>>544159612
I can tell its going to be garbaj
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>>544159535
>dry and soggy
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>>544159353
Sharpshooter is rough because his base movespeed ain't great. I think it makes more sense from a gameplay perspective to chip with sharpshooter then finish them off with ground slam instead of vice versa with point blank, but you'll probably need something to offset the movespeed, maybe surge of power
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>>544159746
Does move speed even matter if you'll be jumping around with his 2?
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I need a female dynamo skin
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>>544159353
Oh my bad its gun lash, fleetfoot then and hollowpoint too
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>>544159353
Neither. Headhunter, weakening headshot (whatever the item that upgrades into crippling is) and BRS
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>>544159869
Are you a refugee from Concord?
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>>544159731
It will be
That's what makes it fun
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>>544158998
Yeah but the difference is this Mina didn't fucking do anything with the harassing
Second if you actually pushed the wave, Infernus could harass them up ramp and you'd be able to double your damage. Instead you're trying to ego 1v2 damage
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>>544159809
It matters less on him for sure but it probably feels nasty cause it would put him slower than literally everyone
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>>544151391
I mean, there's some nuance there in the sense that Lash probably has actually had lots of sex and Paige is presumably a shut in virgin.
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>>544159939
I hate that build 2bh, headshot is flat damage so early game and shred is better for late game and is more a teamplay item(lash plays for lash)

Its +34% dmg(not including shred) vs the +145% dmg with sharpshooter+Hollow point. Plus bsr is a purple and wont have 100% uptime
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>>544150381
Has it been confirmed it'll be canned? I suppose CS doesn't allow you to change your models too much. It did allow custom skins for a while, though
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>>544161331
Did they get rid of them in dota? I know they were useable for quite a long time at the very least there, maybe with some kind of work around
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>>544161409
Yeah you get banned for it now
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>>544161409
No idea, I don't play Dota but I do remember that the idea in CS was that because Valve makes money off of skins, letting players use custom ones is a direct detriment to their income. So they nuked it.
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>>544161592
>>544161553
>>544161409
>>544161331
You wont be allowed to use mods in official game modes. That's a given.

But a custom game mode scene is more than guaranteed.
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Can we just add an FF already? If the enemy is 30k+ souls up it is impossible to come back. They can take your jungle, midboss, urn, everything for free and if you try to contest they just kill you with a massive stat advantage
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>>544162723
Mmmm Nyo.
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>>544162723
go back to league subhuman
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>>544162575
I'm gonna cry when I lose Mina Panties. Legit an improvement on the base model since it fixed skirt clipping.
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>>544162723
Gamers can't be trusted with forfeits.
A huge percentage of them are weak willed bitches that give up on completely winnable games because their rando lane partner made a single mistake.
If comebacks are too impossible make balance changes, don't slap forfeits into the game so every buttmad teenager doesn't mentally tilt straight to a loss 5 mins in by crying for a forfeit.
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>>544162723
If you do team kill you can easily get that 30k back
i have been on matches with 80k difference
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i feel a bit disgusted, i specifically downloaded the mina nude mod just to cum fast and removed it afterwards
i feel dirty
im sorry mina
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>You can last hit your own creeps
why didn't you tell me earlier
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>>544162723
eh I just afk at the base
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>>544154106
My movement is nowhere near good enough for box routes desu
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>>544163661
don't lie to me
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>>544164042
You dont need a whole ass route just grab what you can and keep an eye on the wave
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>>544157858
You can last hit enemy creeps yes not yours. A perfect last hit of an orb in the 100ms window is impossible to deny basically.
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>>544159353
Sharpshooter because you'll want to be far af with this dogshit build
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>>544162723
Just afk in base
People will hate on you but you should just value your sanity
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Reminder that shadowweave is still the highest winrate item

>but it doesnt have 900k games for sample

Doesn't matter

t.statistician
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>>544164508
>t.statistician
post M.Sc
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>>544153781
you're not supposed to fight the other players you're supposed to mario platform cardboard boxes and punch monsters, kills are only for getting at 20 minutes so you can immediately do midboss and win the game
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>>544164508
This guys a fucking faggot lmao
t.David Bowie
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>>544162723
Just spin in spawn and open
And dont be like one of those fags that cries "END IT NEXT ALREADY!" then goes out and fights for more
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what kind of music do you listen to while playing
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why can you type on the select hero menu
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>>544165573
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Mina's ult should have silence at 2 or 5 points change my mind
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>>544165573
It's just a feature they ported from Dota 2's hero select to highlight a character. Type "Haz" and it will highlight Haze for example
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>>544165573
DotaChad feature so you can quickly draft your hero before losing gold.
>>544165828
I won't since that is a perfectly reasonable nerf
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>>544165573
The menu is probably ripped straight from Dota and you can search heroes there because there's over 100 of them.
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>>544165785
Viscous would never say this!!!!!!!!
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>playing Drifter
>do 90% of an enemy's health
>teammate gets the last hit
>this happens two more times
>all of a sudden I do no fucking damage in the mid game
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>>544166452
skill issue
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Why are people still buying spirit snatch on gun drifter? The damage isn't that much for a T3, and neither is the spirit reist you steal. Nor are you gonna make much use of the stolen spirit power.
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>>544159869
how do you win so much with dynamo. have been trying to make him work but every build i do just results in defeat.
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>>544166738
you proc it with your 1

>>544166904
stomp is easy
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>>544166452
Last hit mechanics are a mistake that they should have learned from.
There's even an interaction between Drifter and Vinny that suggests that it doesn't matter when it really does, between two characters that want to get the last hit.
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Looks like I'm back on my losing streak, for real this time. Arcanist 5 now, lets see how far down can I go.
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>>544165539
I don't. Ingame sounds are way too important.
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>>544166939
yeah but people either don't act up on it or the enemy is too fed for it to have any effect.
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>>544166998
Oh my god, ITS THE GEORGE FLOYD!
No offence but playing Seven is just cursed right now. Good luck but you'll need it.
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>>544166904
I just farm really hard until I get at least boundless spirit. I max Stomp > Healt > Blackhole.
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>>544167302
alright ill give it a go
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>>544167127
Do you have any tips on farming? I'm awful at it. I somehow get less souls when explicitly try to do it. And I often don't even get a chance to try since the enemy team is nonstop pushing.
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>>544167379
Nothing that isn't going to be simple Push wave > Farm jungle > Push wave > Farm jungle
Sorry man
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>>544167302
uh no echo chard?
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>>544165539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t365MuktYQs
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>>544165539
If I listen to music I can't hear the fat fucking mole plodding towards me from behind brother
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>>544167680
Nah, I think Echo is over comitting on stomp and just delays your other big items like Refresher/Burn.
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>>544139169
surrender should only be allowed when there's a minimum 30k soul difference and a significant objectives taken difference. atp it's not about comebacks, it's clearly that one team is blatantly better than the other and will win
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>buddy gets really excited like he's my own personal hype man whenever I land a sick hook
so this is what having friends is like
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I wear headphones but I can't hear Drifter's heartbeat audio unless I turn it way too loud to comfortably play with. Is there a way to turn just that up?
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>>544167971
ok I'll test your build
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>>544165539
women farting
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>>544165539
In game music, sounds, and voice chat.
I tried playing with music for a night and lost every match.
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>play Mo and Krill with friend
>win lane early, enemies can't possibly rotate and not lose souls or their tower from it
>steal all of the enemy jungle, anyone that tries to contest gets Mo ulted while my friend beams their head
it's the small things in life
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>>544166960
It exists in dota but usually on heroes that have abilities that guarantee the last hit like Axe's culling blade or Necro Scythe. If drifter had a guaranteed finisher move like Shiv it would be fine.
That or you just be sensible and make assists count for full if you damage them within a few seconds of the kill
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>137 hours and finally reached rank II
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>>544164508
Flat winrate stats suck because it doesn't account for when you'd buy an item
Cheat Death is barely worth anything but it's got a fairly inflated winrate because you only buy it if you're really far ahead
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>>544168303
You can add monster rounds as someone said. It makes laning a bit bearable. Game always ends before you can afford all of the core items so I've personally haven't bought a single 6.4k green item with this build.
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>Buff Enjoyers picking Warden
I doubt he'll do well but I can respect it.
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>>544169602
Abrahams picked sinclair but the rest of their team are serial rapists so it balances out
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>>544169602
warden is best but mb1 hurts my finger
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>>544168031
Nah surrender sucks, they should add a skunk mechanism tho, a super difficult obj you can only do when very ahead that ends the game early
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>no vindicta
we will not be watching
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>Kelvin barely touched
>Calico BUFFED
>Victor tickled a bit
>Infernus GUTTED
>Doorman ANNIHILATED
>Seven still a joke
Why is IcrFraud like this?
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>11-03-2025 Update
>Lady Breast: Milk Fountain radius increased from 8m to 11m
>Lady Breast: Boobamax Spirit scaling increased from 1.1 to 1.3
>Lady Breast: Bounce distance decreased from 3m to 2.99m
>Ethereal Shift removed from the game
>Calico remodelled
>Pocket can no longer use Cloak when in Briefcase
>Bebop bomb scaling increased by 2x
>Big boobs
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>>544170574
>>Calico BUFFED
>* Calico: Gloom Bombs cooldown increased from 10s to 12s
>* Calico: Gloom Bombs base damage from 55 to 45
>* Calico: Gloom Bombs spirit scaling reduced from 0.74 to 0.64
>* Calico: Gloom Bombs multi bomb damage ratio increased from 50% to 65%
>* Calico: Ava no longer replenishes stamina on usage
Where was the buff?
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>>544170676
That 65% there means her bombs do 5% MORE total damage than they used to if you do her standard combo.
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>>544170574
Infernus is still great, his damage was overtuned and now it's closer to being well-tuned.
Doorman is still good. His gun shouldn't be strong
>>544170676
>Gloom Bombs multi bomb damage ratio increased from 50% to 65%
This is the only buff, which only makes bombs deal close to the same amount of pre-nerf damage if you land them well. Not really a buff, just an extra condition for the opportunity of pre-nerf damage.
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>>544170832
I cant be arsed to math it but I doubt it considering the base dmg and scaling got reduced
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>>544170832
with 20% longer cooldown
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Do people think balance patches should be deliberately giving heroes their turn to be OP and breaking both legs for the heroes that had their turn last patch?
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>>544170832
>can no longer throw a single gloom bomb on somebody in lane at a 7 second CD for 200 damage
>this is a huge buff for calico
This thread always filled with the best and brightest
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>>544171004
2 seconds longer means nothing to a burst assassin, anon.

>>544170970
You don't have to. Deathy and Metro both confirmed it. She bursts about 5% harder than she used to.
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>>544171220
means if you whiff the first combo that's two more seconds for you to get killed or them to run away
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>>544171371
If you whiff the combo and then stick around like a dumbfuck: you deserve what you get.
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Why is Haze not considered a carry anymore?
Her guns still scale to insanity levels.
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>>544170574
>infernus still insanely good
>shiv untouched
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>>544171804
cause she doesnt shit out mixed damage like infernus does and isnt as safe as ivy
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>want to try an early shadow weave game
>get a team where Mo and Billy go 1/20 collectively in lane and sends a 16/0 warden to our lane not even ten minutes in
>match ends with has having 6 kills total (3 of them being mine) and the enemy having 40+ kills
From this data I guess I must conclude that shadow weave is bad
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Does debuff remover reduce curse duration, I can't tell
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>>544172296
Is there even any way you can justify Shadow Weave over Veil Walker on Drifter anyways?
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>>544172614
Yeah, all debuff resist affects it. Blood Tribute is basically mandatory against curse stacking teams
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Hearing Mo's steps getting louder and closer while I farm jungle all alone ignites a fight or flight response in my lizard brain
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>>544164508
isnt the entire point of being a statistician that youre supposed to interpret numbers and not say retarded shit like this
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>try playing a match
>someone leaves before the 5 minute mark
I fucking hate playing during the weekends.
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>>544170832
Her bombs aren't the problem.
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>>544173297
I had a Drifter wanting to give up yesterday because he was "gonna go shag the mrs."
No Drifter player on earth has a girlfriend let alone a wife so he was probably just going for a wank.
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gun sinclair?
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>>544173059
some people see wr% statistics for items and dont ask themselves why or how these numbers come to be
wr% for items is absolutely useless since the highest wr% items are usually bought when the game is already over and you end up with shit that has 80% wr
if you were to buy according to these stats you end up like those retards "rushing" shit like echo shard or lucky shot as first item
also having a degree != intelligence, i know mental midgets with stem phds
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Melee Vindicta?
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>>544173780
many are saying this
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Alright my 4chiggas, which team did you think won this time and which team do you think didn't get to play the game?
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>>544172682
longer time, fire rate, melee damage/rend, can use anywhere
vs
cheaper, faster cooldown, slight heal, faster walk speed, limited to specific map spots
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>>544172682
You can get point blank, weighted shots, melee charge to walk up to people and heavy melee for 1000+ dmg
it’s fun
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>>544171804
Her entire kit punishes teamfights and favors picks. They giganerfed her ult so it absolutely deals 0 damage if more than 1 person is inside of it. She has no free escape unlike Ivy, Wraith and Infernus and no mixed damage.
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>>544173935
>wraith, mo and doorman in the same team
kek. all of these are autoaim and unmissable CC.
your team? holliday lasso is a skillshot, dox swap is a skillshot, bebop hook is a skillshot.
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>>544174245
paradox has 50 light years range and the hitbox is wider than makrill's fat fucking arse so it's hardly a skill shot
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using a trackball is not the smartest idea
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>>544174375
it's not normally
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>>544173935
blue lost
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Anotherday, another Mina Butt.
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>>544174375
he's still pretty good though
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>>544174330
if you're getting hit by that slow ass projectile from the other side of the map you deserve it
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>>544173059
yes.
>>544174375
Not sure how he does it, tempted to get one myself and try it in singleplayer games.
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>>544173606
I love it when people drop details like that and expect it to not sound like they're just openly, unashamedly bragging

we get it, you've had sex, fuckin tiny little man
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>>544174890
it's the biggest and easiest to hit "skill shot" in the game and paradox even has a map-wide setup for it too lol
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>>544139169
Surrender makes losing worse and winning less enjoyable too.
Just look at similar games, where people are spamming surrender votes and give up on ever trying to win the second something doesn't go their way because "i can just quit at 15 minutes, might as well make it the rest of the team will want to ff as well"
This has no place in deadlock.
Comeback is almost always possible, and if it's not, the enemy will end before long anyway. And if they don't that means a comeback was still possible
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>Next game: Enemy have 40 kills, we have 6
Guess I was winning too much what the fuck is this
>>544172682
Improves your spirit damage, fire rate, and melee damage, basically all the things Drifter wants but burstier in an invisible package
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>>544175317
If carbine damage is a problem just get spirit barrier and it will cuck the majority of the damage. If swap is the problem just get warp stone which is a very good item anyways and it completely breaks her combo, carbine is a slow not a stun and if you are too slow to use warp stone then it's a massive skill issue because swap is slow as fuck.
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>playing drifter
>enemy team is 100% spirit damage
>build fury trance, spirit resilience, silencer
zamn I love counter building
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>>544159074
Like every other general on /vg/, it's 1-2 trannies who are desperate for attention and spam if you give them even one reply
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>>544175317
Every time I see you skill-less fucks complaining about paradox it's because she's so ass you never bothered to counter build her.
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paradox has to have the most delusional playerbase in the game, but I guess we should have expected that when they unironically think its unfair you cant one shot someone with carbine anymore
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>>544175782
>paradox having the best ultimate in the game on an insignificant cooldown and a 0% chance of missing is not a problem because you are bad at the game
retards in this thread have been downplaying paradox for what is approaching TWO fucking years now. She is always a contested pick in high rank games (which you do not play in by the way) and the scrims/tournaments that get played. Seriously shut the fuck up
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Finally after a long while I finally got that close fight I wanted. I lost but at the same time I understand where I went wrong and what I should have done.
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>>544175782
oh btw in non bot elos paradox players build slowing hex so you are using warp stone on her combo, youre so fucking bad I dont know why you have the audacity to post
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>>544168828
I have a similar issue

one trillion games, massive win/loss streaks, rank never moves, very cool
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I see you
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>doorman applies healing rite
>makes a door and instantly walks into enemy guardian and turns it off

lmao
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Already immediately lystic is doing better on Billy than his Abrams
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>>544177327
Saint didnt bind parry
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>>544167127
Sepufll
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>>544176837
*hums random notes that don't make up a song at all*
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>>544173663
Nice assumption you have there, im sure you actually checked all those games and aren't baselessly making shit up

The mental gymnastics are real

>>544173059
Or maybe you are missing the obvious. Must be hard to see from midwit mountain
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>zerggy picks mina
>suddenly starts winning
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>>544178204
very indian coded post
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>>544174947
turns out yamato is constantly picked by the highest elo players, so shes good
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>>544178297
She's weaaaak I tell you, weaaaaak!
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>>544178504
that image was made back when ult made her unkillable, it has no bearing on what yamato is now
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>>544178504
Name one pro who picks yam that isnt a one trick
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>>544178504
Back when that was made I think Yamato was still in her less-effective-than-melee-creep phase where she was basically a sandbag that made her team 5v6
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Abrahambros...
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>>544178646
Lystic_
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Tips for playing Yamato?
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>>544178204
>assumption
this is the reason the discussion of results in science is actually important so retards like you dont do stupid shit when they see sensationalist headlines in media
>"shadow weave 65% wr!!"
>"ermagerd me rush shadoweve"
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>>544179141
Don't get put in lane vs a Mina
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>>544179141
Watch the naked guy fredthefinch
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now:
>abrahams
>buff enjoyers
>the uncs
5 years from now:
>CLOUD9 LIQUID big money Doritos McDonalds Coca Cola
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>>544178086
she just like me fr
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>>544179208
I accept your concession
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>>544179314
>now
>nobodies circlejerking their own special club

>future
>actually good players
Woah!
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>5 kills vs 28
LMAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>544179314
there is no guarantee that this becomes a popular enough esport for big orgs
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>>544179314
Gonna miss seeing the weird amateur team names and logos
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>>544179141
take the dick out of your mouth when youre playing
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>>544179620
During the first game there was a flood of russian comments and they suddenly stopped during that absolute rape lmao
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>>544179751
Why so mean?
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>>544179587
As if they wouldn't just hire current players like vp did
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>>544179314
>now:
>>abrahams
Who?
>>buff enjoyers
Who?
>>the uncs
Who?
>5 years from now:
>>CLOUD9 LIQUID
Who?
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>>544179830
I dont know we just have an anon thats mean to people sometimes, its alright, you can keep the dick in your mouth if you want, it doesnt really affect your performance much
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>>544179893
Poocheezy and Chestertesties ain't getting hired lil bro
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>>544176429
Didn't you say the skill was map wide? retard. I gave you the answer to the map wide problem, if short range is the problem just get e shift.
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>>544179830
yamato players tend to do that when they play yamato, just a known fact and i think it affects their play
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love the night shift aesthetic/vibe they've come up with
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fuck this gay team i hope they die
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Just joined the stream. What did I miss today
>>544180350
How would you describe it?
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>>544179549
go rush shadow weave and be merry
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEEDED ONE MORE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Updated my flight build with feedback from fellow anons

Vinny flight build v3
Core
>compress cool down(flight)
>duration extender(flight)
>Surge of power(flight)
Sustain
>reactive barrier
>spirit shielding
Midgame
>soul shredder bullets
>bullet resist shredder
>spirit rend
>superior cooldown

Late game
>Crippling headshot
>divine barrier

Cdr+duration for 100% flight uptime. Flight bullets shred both resistances. Play behind team to increase effectiveness of shred.
End left open for flexibility
Total 9.6k gun, 9.6k vit, 9.6k spirit


I kind of really like rescue beam on Vinny but I just cant justify it before Transcendent. I wish they unnerfed it, its fun
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>>544180765
Those are some short fucking games
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>>544180765
>ivy/billy/lash/m&k picks
based
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>>544180815
why would you want 100% flight uptime it's so slow
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>>544180637
jazzy and classy, i know the colorful gummy worms clash with it a bit but sponsors set the rules.

i don't know if it's intentional but the idea of always running these into the night EU time makes it a bit funny too
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>>544180815
>reactive barrier
what for?
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>>544180919
Makes my head small and enemy heads big, plus I avoid like 3/4 of the cast entirely and can use it to activate brs

Surge of power helps too
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TOTAL BEBOP SUCCESS
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>>544180052
wow you're very cool and epic my good man
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>>544181397
AND HE KEEPS GOING
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Bebop + doorman is a kino lane combo
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>>544179715
popular? no guarantee. Milked for a forced pro scene to sell advertisments? This is more the future I'm picturing
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>3rd kill for hoot bebop on saf in 5min
jeeeeeeeeeeesus
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>>544181617
At least valve is largely anti gambling sponsors these days
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>look at hoot's stream, he has webcam on
>guy looks good and is a god at the game
>look in the mirror, see an ugly hardstuck shitter
grim mogging
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is superior duration actually good on wraith
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>>544181219
For the inevitable knockdown or hook or whatever they use to knock me out of flight
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>Be Arcanist
>Buy eShift on Victor
>Buy torment pulse too
>Pop it in a fight
>They all just exit the range of my 3
Uuuh I don't get it guys
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>>544182113
fleet footwork + surge of power
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>>544181979
No its lower priority then basically everything
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>Get close to an enemy
>We both use Cold Front at the same time
I feel like something needs to be done about this.
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>>544181853
he looks extremely average
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>>544182189
nevermind i didn't read your post properly
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>>544182284
in comparison i'm cooked
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>>544182243
Just stop buying coldfront, it isnt good its just people falling for the flat damage meme/stuck in the past when it actually did damage to creep
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>>544181853
>>544182405
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Bought a bag of the official Deadlock snack.

I like it.
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>>544182113
the point of e-shift is to save you
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>>544182113
>enemy over commits to killing you
>press 2 and e-shift
>enemy has to lose the fight by running away from you or lose the fight by dying to you
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is eshift still an item post-nerf
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Which team should I root for? Buff Enjoyers seem to be full of ecelebs.
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>ban vindicta
>win
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I am so sick of googling shit about Deadlock and the stupid fucking turdnugget google AI bot goes "the character Deadlock in Valorant does blah blah fucking blah"

I can't believe normies think this shit is going to launch the nukes
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>>544183145
Abrahams has this guy https://www.twitch.tv/jamside/clip/AgileWiseZucchiniMikeHogu-p7A5fys5lQ_tEh5Q
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>>544183015
Yea id say 40s is still viable, if they brought it to 60s it would kill it
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>>544183367
>russian
Okay I guess I root for buff enjoyer
>shitting on metro
I'm torn
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>>544183367
jamside's pretty funny
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I think I'm done. Before the matchmaking update I was around a 60% winrate since returning. Winning regularly having good matches. Now out of the last 30 games half of them have had DC's or rage quits. I've had multiple people who have gone 0-15+. Matchmaking is clearly imbalanced it doesn't matter what I fucking do anymore. I don't want to have to play some gun nigger and hard carry every match. I want to play heros that I enjoy and are fun and still be able to fucking win. This game is absolutely dogshit now.
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>>544183367
7 months since this clip and Metro's playstyle hasn't changed a bit
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how to fix afterburn
>DoT immediately starts but is at 10% of DPS with bullet one
>ramps up to full DPS with build up
>starts to drop off with diminishing DPS with no bullet connection (no 4 seconds of gay full afterburn DPS)
it’s kinda annoying how you can receive a few pellets and take full DPS. Maybe with this, his abilities could also contribute to buildup too
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holy shit lystic
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>>544183948
I keep telling you niggas, Billy's tank potential with his 1 sustain is crazy
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You are the blackest Gorilla Nigger I have ever played with, I bet you lurk this shithole. Fucking kill yourself dude, prime example of why north america is a dogass region, literally throwing the game because you aren't doing well. You did not deserve that win and I hope you stay in whatever shithole rank forever. Nigger.
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>>544179141
Understand when you can push your advantage. Yamato is do or die.
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>I don't get the character I want
I throw.
>match isn't going how I like
I throw.
>enemy is using a build I don't like
I throw.
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>>544183901
stfu retard
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the mina character appear on my screen and I throw my noose over the cieling beam
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>lane opponent is playing a character I hate (they're cheap and OP)
You better believe I throw.
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>>544183901
It's scaling needs to be dropped from .7 to .4 or less
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>>544184408
*schlick schlick schlock*
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>>544180765
>billy/mo/ivy
disgusting, you don't deserve a single one of those, save for the most recent one
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>>544179314
There has always been random pub stars stacks with silly names that are relevant in DotA 2's tier 1 tournaments. I don't see why that wouldn't be the case in Deadlock.
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>>544165539
Usually this.
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>>544184154
there's literally a 0% chance that person is here, you're yelling at no one like a schizo
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>>544184335
sometimes I forget I share this general with genuine spergs
>>544184449
yea that wouldn’t even be bad considering he always builds toxic, capacitor, and merc mag
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How come I never see vortex web?
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>>544184775
cause its a shit item for how much it costs
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>>544184775
I don't think it's a bad item but there are just better options. Maybe you'd see it if it was a 1600 or 3200.
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>>544184154
Can you make that post in your discord instead
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>>544184904
kino
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>>544183901
Put afterburn dot on napalm and give the damage amp to afterburn so it have a build up
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>>544184909
>giant aoe that sucks everyone into one spot and applies slowing hex
>1600
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>>544182671
>sharty
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>>544184879
Its a suck grenade that shit seems op, the kind of item a team could run 6 of and cheese a win
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>>544184904
Do these high level Bebops just wait until they know an enemy is out of stam before hooking and throwing into tower like that? Whenever I do that, as soon as uppercut connects they just fucking press shift middair and dash back out
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>>544184775
I run it on Paige, works really well if you time the Captivating Read right
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>>544145858
just go gun its the most borked dogshit ive ever experienced
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>>544184775
it turns your autoaim 1600 item into a skillshot with a longer cooldown, and it has mediocre passive stats
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>>544185327
Holiday only has 2 stamina by default so he only had one left to get out of there which he needed to save. Any other hero could have gotten a dash jump and at least made it to the bridge instead
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If you guys had a Deadlock team what would you call it? Would you go more jokey or something more sober?
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>>544185563
Sex with Abrams
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>>544185563
>brawling one minute in
the shallow chad classic
>team name
The Vampire Brats
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>>544185686
Kind of looks like Pocket's Neon Prime design
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Free my nigga Rutger
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>>544185563
Mina's Lost Panties
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>>544185903
the primelock one is actually fan rendition i think, the synth guy is very unfinished
i think their lash model is also different from neon prime as the NP icon is different (though very low res)
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>>544185903
this thing?
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ssssssunday night mutha fucka
lets do a game before we go back into the wage cage
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>>544185151
yes.
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>>544182243
>make eye contact at enemy
>we both shoot out guns

wooooooow
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>>544186131
bonk
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>>544182243
That item's been raped beyond belief, just get spirit sap
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>>544186131
DIOOOOOOOS MIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LA CREATURA
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>>544185563
>Would you go more jokey or something more sober?
it would be the crudest deadcock joke you've ever heard

funny over edgy ALWAYS
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why are fuckers so scared of going for mid boss? it's literally 48mins farm time is OVER!!
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do you guys build slowing bullets
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>eshift got balanced and its no longer 30% invincibility uptime
>haven't seen a Victor in a game since the patch
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>>544186870
on gun paige to rape niggaz
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>>544186870
its fucking terrible
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>>544186870
no, we buy point blank
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>>544186976
I always get Mina for some reason.
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>>544186976
turns out victor is still insanely weak and the only thing that was keeping him afloat was a 6400 item
color me surprised
I'm glad though, who cares about a nerf-punching-bag like victor when calico+eshift existed. With her cooldowns, she'd spend the entire fight invincible, then heal with 2 and go back to being invincible. and if god forbid she was in the slightest bit of danger, she could always just run away with cat after using eshift
Victor was never the problem, the item just made him playable. DEIcon was the true culprit all along.
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>>544186870
Not since the shop update, I think its fine but the build up kind of killed it for me, I want to have firerate before I get it and once I have the firerate I dont want a 1600 with no upgrade
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>>544186976
Im gonna be honest Ive only played victor on the patches he was weak but the amount of shit people talk about victor in lobbies caused me to bounce of the character when he was strong and I havent even bothered playing him since
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>>544183635
It does feel significantly worse.
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>bought some candy worms because of this tourney
shilling works
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>ABL teabagging in a tournament
Why do slavs have such poor sportsmanship?
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>>544188470
bagging is based, no reason to get mad at it.
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>>544185563
No Tidehunter
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>>544183708
isnt his playstyle blaming his teammates for his fuck ups and saying he 1v6 after wins?
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They hide rankings, but what matchmaking needs to consider is carrying heroes, and notifying if you are the highest ranking player (i.e., the player determined to be the highest impact)

If you a.) Have players on high impact characters(overpowered ones that have higher stats and w/r than others)
and
b.) Notify players that they are the highest impacting player,

then you can set expectations. For example:

>Queue up
>pops
>I'm dynamo
>I'm the highest impact player, meaning I can't fuck around, and that I'm likely playing with less skilled players
>it is what it is, nuke/bullet build
vs
>bro what the FUCK is going on, they are doing damage, that was a 5 person singularity why did I built ult when I was supposed to carry
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>>544188632
I agree, but only thing you can do is check with statlocker I don't use it so no idea if it even works on people who don't use it
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Are there any useful mods for the game right now or just gay coomer shit?
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>>544188470
NOOOOO THINK OF PEOPLE'S FEELINGS SOMEONE MIGHT CRYYYY
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>>544188535
of course you would think that, homo fag
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>>544179141
Start 3. Get 1 next. Max out 1 after getting 1pt in each skill.
Use bombs to poke. Use knives to kill minions. Bombs are easier to hit if you fire them from elevation.
Always buy RestoShot > MysticBurst no matter the lane.

Play super aggro. Jumpdash - 3 - LightM/ - Dash away - bombs, is incredibly hard to respond to for pretty much any character early.
Once you get 1, you should Jumpdash - 3 - 1.
Always let 1 full charge. Only pop it early if your position is bad and you need to bail, or if the enemy dashed to cover and you won't hit the full charge.
1 is easiest to hit if you double jump, because they simply can't avoid it if you're high above them.

Using 2 at the right time is a big learning gap for her. You shouldn't be using it to engage unless you're preparing to Ult right afterwards.
Use good movement to engage and then 2 as a chase ability. 90% of people run the fuck away after getting 2'd.
If your ult is up you can 2-3-1-4, 2-3-1.
Her ult is MOSTLY a means to ape engage as said above. Jump in, blow all CDs to nuke, hit 4, then blow all CDs to finish them off. Even if enemy is full tank, if you hit everything max charge they'll be at like 10% HP. However obviously it grants you full invuln for a second or two. So if the enemy CC chains you or you're about to eat an Infernus ult, you can use it defensively.

Yamato's biggest problem is confidence. She has absolutely no means to escape, so you better be prepared to go all in and get the kill every time you engage. She's hard as fuck to learn as a result, because mistakes with her = deaths.
People call her feast or famine which is somewhat true. But even if you're 0-5, if you just AFK in lane for a while she is one of the biggest 1v1 menaces in the game so once you get even on Souls you can usually shit on anyone who comes to fuck with you.

t. 60% w/r archon yamato
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>>544188893
This is an extremely useful mod just because it has pre-expanded inventories+Boons and should be added to the game.
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>>544189134
this mod should just be in the game, having to hover over the icons to see their items feels stupid now
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>>544188470
the only thing a russian hates more than a non russian is a russian
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>>544185563
My team name would be
>Infernus stole my bike
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>>544189223
YEah I don't give a fuck about the otherstuff except for that feature. No idea why it isn't like every other Moba and clear as day so you can counterbuild. Everything else is secondary.
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>>544188632
counterpoint: the best player on the team has never played dyamo
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>>544189525
TRVE, however they might have him selected and get it in some turbo pisslow hell due to matchmaking being retarded.
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>>544189223
It definitely should. I'm extremely tempted to download it but don't want to rely on something that could be taken away anytime.
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>>544188559
That and constantly feeding bags to the enemy team
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>>544188553
Real nigga shit
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>>544148183
You might just suck. Bolts are awesome, teleporting around is awesome, stealing ults is awesome.
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>>544185563
My team would be called "Mothman Hero When" and so when we win everyone will ask for a mothman hero
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Are character model mods broken or something?
I can't get them to work since they added the halloween masks
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>>544188553
I wonder if we'll ever get some sort of Tidehunter hero or at the very least someone with his ult.
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>feeding lash with no majestic leap
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>>544190136
The Entity that Viscous wants to stop is Tidehunter
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>>544189982
No its clunky as fuck, you just instadie of someone walks up to you and even if you get a good sightline the bolts can just redirect to some random wall
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there is no way this becomes a popular esport, these teamfights are a clusterfuck
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>>544190260
deepest lore
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>>544185563
the GGG
Gargoyle Groping Group
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>>544182671
Not the basedjaks! My senior neovagina cant take it!
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this dudes name is porn lol
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>>544190620
what would you even grope here? She's flat as a stone board
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>>544190197
Majestic leap is a crutch for movementlets
Stamina mastery is the real deal
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>>544190860
It says pom
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I don't know what changed but now i play like shit on deadlock compared to when the game was with the base roster.
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>>544191035
right thats what i said
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>>544185327
The trick is to time the uppercut so that it interrupts the dash
>t: poor fucker that always gets to lane against bepop (but only when he's good)
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>>544179314
why do you kids call anyone over 30 a 'unc'
is it a meme or something
.t 34 year old unc
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>>544185327
>>544191363
>spend 1 stamina to dodge the hook
>clearly four character lengths away
>still get grabbed
that's how they do it. bebop players are highly skilled
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>>544191106
what changed is that everyone got better
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Give me one good reason why Unstoppable shouldn't be in its own category that costs 16,000 souls.
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>>544191818
bkb
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>>544185563
BWOVU appreciators
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>>544191901
BWOVU? What does that mean? Black woman on uhhhh idk
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How can anyone have fun playing against the "I press 4 and win" heroes. Valve should fire Yoshitard with real fire, holy fucking hell get someone that isn't a quota inbred-retard chromie to balance thisgame.
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>>544191818
CC is cancer
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>>544192014
holy calicos!!!
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>>544192014
Check the first post
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>>544192309
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>>544192309
Fuuuark love me a bed wench
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>>544192309
mmm mmm MMMMM
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Why is Trophy Collector so good item? It should on every roamers list.
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inhouse doko
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>>544192309
Now take off the wig.
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>>544192902
even better!
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>Vindicta first pick material
Noooo shut it down Yoshit is going to break her legs again please stooooop
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Is the Yamato 2B mod broken for anyone else?
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>>544193446
What builds are peeps running?
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>>544157691
kek
Was he really breaking a fucking gun with his bare hands? Batmen uses firepowerand gizmos all the time, what was this about?
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>>544193530
It's just snipe builds being good at winning early fights
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>>544192730
how u got so many kills?
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>>544192736
Spectating the the games right now. Actually want to see how BE do in the finals
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>>544165008
Cool art
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>>544193462
it works you just need to change your config file every time it breaks
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Playing Support Paige genuinely feels like trolling.
You can die 2 times during the whole game, throw barriers on everyone, rescue beam them out of danger, use your ult perfectly each time, and it won't even matter one bit.
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>decide to lane vindicta with shiv instead of maurice

do these niggers not realize how much of a terrorist lane vin and mo is
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>>544193905
Change it how?
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>>544194385
the same way you did when you installed it the first time
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>>544194385
https://deadlocker.net/install-guide#manually
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>>544194252
qrd?
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>>544194562
>stake into mo ult into free money for vin snipes
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>>544193801
can spectators chat?
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>>544194709
I'm talking about the trolli stream on Twitch. But there's no spectator chat for in game spectators like in Dota 2
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>>544194252
Its also 2 executes overlapping, very odd
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>>544192730
>ESL
>Rank not shown
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>>544194994
someone speaking positively about trophy collector means their rank cant be higher than archon anyway, who gives a shit
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>>544188893
the yamato mod is pretty nice
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>>544195085
Trophy Collector got big buffs it's compy as fuck now jit
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>>544194994
whats happening in that image?
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>>544195452
niggers that cant do math losing their shit over that change frfr
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>>544195483
sapphire shopping on their side when they could push against single defender and win
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>>544195085
might try it on warden for the lulz he craves move speed, it gives move speed. I see no issues.
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What do I do lategame when I've purchased my entire build but I still have like 12k souls in the bank? How do I know which items are good to upgrade and which are critical to my build?
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>>544196145
experience
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>>544196145
maybe start reading the items and think, retard
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>>544194425
>>544194467
Thanks
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>>544196145
basically you want to sell your tier 2's for counter items depending on what the enemies are confounding you with
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I almost feel bad for Vinny on the enemy team. Almost.
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>>544196218
>Read item

Headhunter
Your next headshot against an enemy Hero deals bonus weapon damage, heal you, and briefly grants bonus move speed.
+75 Head Shot Bonus Damage
4% Heal per Headshot
+2m/s Move Speed
3s Move Speed Duration

Frenzy
+1m/s Move Speed
+10% Spirit Resist
+10% Fire Rate
Passive
While you are below 50% health, you gain stat bonuses.
3m/s Move Speed (Conditional)
30% Fire Rate (Conditional)
30% Spirit Resist (Conditional)

Okay, what next? How do I know which of these two items will do more for me, let alone if it would be worth spending 4800 souls to upgrade from one to the other?
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>>544196601
vinny is an elo deflater
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>>544196601
dat ritualist wraith
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>>544196643
The headshot bonus damage is flat damage which is better at the beginning. % modifiers, like the ones on frenzy are better later

So in a late game scenario where you have 12k then I would always pick frenzy unless my hero is specifically in need of the headhunter heal
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>>544197002
What about Holliday?
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can we talk about eu teams first picking vindicta to do nothing and be poor as shit, what the fuck are you guys thinking
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>m on team
>lose
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>>544197103
https://deadlock.wiki/Crippling_Headshot
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>>544197103
Headhunter is better on holiday but you probably want it much earlier so the flat headshot bonus is more impactful
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>>544197049
FOR THE DJINN!!!! ARRRUGUGUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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3/4 of these characters are utter failures that nobody plays. Vyper was reworked a few weeks ago and I still never see one in my games. HOW do we fix them?
>inb4 ermm i actually enjoy playing janklair and hollishit!
You're in the minority, like people who enjoy jenkem or cbt
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>>544196601
I'm maining Vindicta and I have a lot of games like this. Yesterday I did 90k damage in a 35min game and lost... I'm considering just spamming Infernus to abuse my aim and climb up.
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>>544197134
isnt she played for lockdown?
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>>544197404
I still stand that the biggest issue with those were just how they were introduced.
Rolling out with fully unfinished designs or generally unappealing design doesn't help, there's a reason Holiday is the only one people play.
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That warden bought intensifying mag which i dont get. Pretty sure he is less than half mag before the buff kicks in 100%. I only get that item on miku
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>>544197404
>>544197621
People only pick these heroes if they're fucking busted as shit. Calico is being picked in pubs right now because of that, Holliday was too. Vyper has been in the dumpster for ages and doesn't get picked as a result. I think Bebop players will play him no matter how shit he gets, same for Vindicta, Abrams, VIscous etc. Their kits are just boring as all fuck
>>
>queue up
>check profiles while loading
>3k hours in dota
>10k hours in dota
>russian
>russian
>american with loli pfp, private profile
Gee Gee
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>>544197427
believe it or not there are better options than a squishy character with 2 stam no ability to farm and a 30 second cd on their only tool, and they are all at your disposal when you have first pick
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>>544197737
The buff is based on how long you hold down M1 so if you've got a shit fire rate you get the buff before you shoot many bullets
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>>544197836
who?
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>>544197927
but if you have shit firerate you deal no damage
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>>544198020
Warden's bullets are high damage his fire rate scales from spirit for a reason
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>>544198002
are you being intentionally retarded or what man
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Watching Metro throw that last game by going for that camp annoyed me. It's like he purposely threw the game for his team
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>>544197927
Yea but his base is 17 ammo with 3.8 bullets per second so you are shooting 10 bullets minimum before its maxed and his attack speed scales off spirit so its probably even more
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love me some map3 kino
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>>544197404
Sinclair 1 and the autoaim on 2 don't belong in the game. Vyper is awful to play because you are forced to hold down the crouch button for 20 mins.
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>>544196730
Absolutely befuddling player. No self-preservation instinct.
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ABL seems useless on anything other than Yamato
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>>544198381
kek
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>>544198381
jesus christ is this the rank you guys play at
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>>544198381
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>>544198179
>watching streamers
schools tommorow its bedtime soon little zoomy
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>>544198381
Saw this happen exactly the same way in one of last night's inhouses
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>>544198653
I'm 24.
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What characters is the best for noobs? I just played my first real match as Victor and got absolutely obliterated. I played good with him against bots, but got 0 kills and 14 deaths against real players.
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im still stuck playing with nabs with absolutely 0 comprehension of basic macro and ive started noticing a certain pattern in their behaviour, where if they get pushed down to the second phase of the patron AND they manage to bring the enemy team down to 3-2 people they suddenly magically organize themselves into a (semi-)coherent team and start actually doing objectives in a mostly reasonable way. this is like the third game in a row where i see this. and it's starting to be a consequently-repeating manner of gameplay among these people.

are deadlock shitlows developing their own equivalent of a pub push?
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>>544198734
yeah so a kid
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/ourgirl/ is streaming!
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>>544198381
LMAO
jesus christ, are all these players bots? what rank is this?
it looks like some kind of ai trying to learn, there's no way any human that isn't drunk out of their mind is this shit
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>>544198806
you arent going to do well for a while, you should pick the character that looks the most fun or cool to you rather than choose someone you dont like who is easy

the most straightforward/easy characters to play are infernus/wraith/warden/haze
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>>544198946
isnt that a man?
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>>544199005
even better
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>>544198179
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>>544199023
is it though? is that a transgender? i tried asking and got shit on
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>>544198806
abrams, haze, infernus
billy too
pick the character you like the most and learn everything there is to them
once you have what your charcter does down, learn every other character so you know how to counterplay them
then you just need to learn macro
voila, you solved the game in a months time
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>>544199198
>learn every other character so you know how to counterplay them
to clarify, you don't need to learn how to play them, just know what they do and how you can counter what they do no matter your who you pick
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>>544198968
>what rank is this?
See >>544196601
I'm personally Arcanist 5. I used to be Ritualist 3, though.
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is yamato just dogshit right now? if you build to tank she deals zero damage, if you build to deal damage she still does zero damage and is squishy, if you build to hybrid she does nothing

feels like a completely impactless hero unless your team is intimately playing to set you up in teamfights. otherwise you just stare at enemies until you run out of cooldowns and then die or run
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>>544198806
Every character has its own kind of difficulty. Just pick one you like the most and spam it along 2 alts. Doesn't really matter which except Mina, she's in every game and you won't get to play her constantly.
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>>544198381
alchemist kino
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>>544193543
he is wrangling some skinheads called the sons of batman into being a vigilante force to oppress the poor and distroden gothan people during a nuclear explosion induced black out when they try to loot some stores to make sure they can survive the night with food and electronics.
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>>544198179
watching metro while the DNS is happening is seriously bad.
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why have all my lanemates this weekend been suicidal?
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>>544200293
back to the wage cage tomorrow
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>>544197401
https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4
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>>544200646
Never gets old
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>>544198381
Most of my kills were that Wraith, actually. But I must say, I enjoy playing utility Doorman.
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>>544200646
How could people play him before?
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>>544200895
Very loudly
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>>544197404
holiday is the most boring cowboy I've ever played even if she has a kit I'd like on paper.
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watching a good shiv is pretty kino, besides lash he might be the flashiest hero in the game
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>team is winning
>midboss arrives
>kills midboss
>team is now winning harder
how do we fix steamroll matchs?
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>>544200895
We spammed jeet memes despite him being an arab.
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>>544190260
>Tidehunter
>Undying
>Zeus
>Ring Master
Alot of Dota héroes could work in Deadlock on a 1-1
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>>544197404
just remove calico and let me play as the cat only
I see a fair number of hollidays in my games so I assume she's ok
don't care about vyper or sinclair but they're both annoying to fight so remove them from the game I guess
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>>544199194
I think it is. Look at the twitter.
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Throwing lane like having fun I dont give a fuck
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>>544188632
we should at least be able to check our teammates ranks during the match and it should reveal the enemy's rank at the end of it.
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>match starts
>laning against mina/geist/talon/vindicta/haze
key details that'll tell you that your match is about to suck ass
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inhouse when?
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>>544201796
include infernus in this list as well
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Bros, I love playing Yamato
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>>544202249
bad news bro they're giving her a new model soon
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>>544201709
Nah it should be subtle, like voiclines when you kill or die to someone higher or lower rank that let you know
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>>544202374
Good, I mod her shit model just like everyone else
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>>544202778
some yamato fan you are.
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>>544195514
your math sucks
can you collect souls while dead?
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>>544201796
recently played against vin/haze as yam/abrams and it was miserable until i got ult and could fight back
won the game and also bought knockdown just for vin, felt so fucking good killing that fuck
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>>544200976
you definitely didnt play release holliday, nothing like dropping a pad and then warp stoneing into a team to stun them all and juggle their asses with barrels non stop, shes a shell of what she once was(pure unfiltered cancer)
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>us 250k souls
>them 220k souls
>still lose because infernus is in jungle farmign while enemy push to base
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>>544203251
why is it always infernus players perma farming jungle, I swear every time I see an infernus he's like 0/1/0 just fucking farming
is it just because he can farm jungle really easily that he refuses to take fights we'd win?
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>>544201796
>doorman on enemy team
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>>544200185
Based, people who don't prepare for tomorrow don't deserve it
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that butt though
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>>544198381
>must have been the wind
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WHERE INHOUSE
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why specifically is trophy collector such a shitter magnet
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>>544198381
imagine that smoke alarm ufo image but with the bell and wraiths kek
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>>544203728
you need to stop asking and let it happen organically, you're starting to piss me off bad
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>>544203737
delusions of grandeur combined with the fact it's an econ item which always attract shitters.
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>>544203737
They think they are him. They aren't.
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>>544203847
*rapes you*
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>>544203737
>>544203981
>>544204048
is this same samefag meme?
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>>544198685
look i was juggling warden builds, mmkay?
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>3/4 bans are newly released heroes
is there any moba that avoids the power creep?
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>>544203737
money generator item
idk why people would ever pick it over cultist though because it's backloaded in like 3 different ways (green item so no bonus stats from investment, no offensive stats to gain stacks more easily, needs stacks to generate money at all)
I wonder if anybody has done the math at how quickly on average the item will pay for itself, if it started at max 16 stacks it would pay for itself in ~6.5 minutes
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Meanwhile Drifter hasn't even seen a single second of tournament play.
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>>544204339
the thing that baffles me is specifically BECAUSE of cultist existing
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>>544203847
hey thats a different anon, usually i ask the question
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Pocket should not be allowed to buy ethereal shift. It last long enough to get all of your cooldowns back + majestic leap, it's so fucking dumb
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>>544204342
he's a pubstomper hero, does nothing against players with a frontal lobe
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>>544204194
lol i noticed dont worry
>>544203728
I'm watching the tourny so I can't really host
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>>544204246
no
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>>544204136
*enjoys it*
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Wow this was miserable, never playing a non-op Mirage again outside inhouses.
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>>544204595
why didn't you just shot them in the head?
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what should i build on the monkey and the mole
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EU Tournament Final First match

Place Bets
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>>544204595
LIGHTBRINGER's builds are designed around high skill play with teams co-ordinating for maximum tempo so you might have to tinker with them to get better effectiveness in pubs by the way
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>>544204429
I think if they wanted to rebalance the two items they should make trophy collector orange and cultist green, it makes more sense to me for cultist to be a green item since you're playing PVE and using it to farm camps whereas trophy collector wants you to be fighting enemies where bonus weapon damage will probably matter a lot more early game than +20% max health
also probably reduce max stacks on trophy collector to 10 or 12 and adjust the stats per stack to scale proportionally
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>>544204738
>one team has kelvin
>the other doesn't
geez I wonder who will win
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>>544204342
just as soon as he's buffed out of the dumpster, then you'll all see
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>>544204429
Cult sac is soft-capped by the amount of T3 creeps on the map, so people clearing camps means it gets less value. Fire rate's also wasted on a couple characters whereas sprint speed is universally valuable.
This is by no means an endorsement of collector but it's not entirely cut and dry.
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vin fix: faster reload
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>>544204738
This looks close draftwise could go eitherway, with that said I no nothing of the teams/players
>>544204803
Yeah I did that as soon as I ganked to get tower and my warden just went to midlane to farm.
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>>544204725
you want cool down so you can hate crime more, and you want mobility so you can hate crime more easily, everything else supplements these two facts of the retards duo

>>544204875
except specifically this is an item adored by brain damaged shitters who play in a lobby where T3s do not get cleared
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>Get a random thought
>Look it up on GameBanana
>Someone has actually made it
Excellent. Top shelf.
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>>544205028
Splendid
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>>544204738
viscous chuds, it's our time
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>>544205028
Hardly original but great to see nontheless.
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>>544204987
unfortunately I manage to get games that have both
>brain damaged shitters buying TC
>perma-farming instead of pushing lanes
at the same time. Phantom
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be lose this. very grim
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>>544205028
first rate!
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EU bros, are we the chuds?
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>>544205408
slavs have never seen black people irl so they have no sympathy towards them
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TRACKBALL'D
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>>544205623
slavs are black people irl
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>snipes you
;3
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>>544145227
>>we win, I type "fags" and she says "agreed"
Did she sex you?
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the agreed upon bottom 3 skill characters according to na "pros" are

>Ivy
>Mo and Krill
>Wraith
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if you dont buy lifestrike on billy youre trolling, simple as
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>glass cannon holliday
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Warden is so useless it's unbelievable.
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>>544206826
I had a game yesterday vs abrams and I couldn't fucking parry him so he kept healing to full every time he meleed me
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>>544206887
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>>544206741
What are your sources?
I main 2 out of the 3
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>>544204803
His mirage build just isnt very good 2bh
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>>544207178
What's wrong with it?
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>>544206741
can confirm as an ivy main i always feed when i get something else
and for the longest time i put mokrill as my third hero even though i don't play him much because he's so piss easy that i always do well with him anyways
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>>544204827
That makes no sense health is dead stat when jungling and important when fighting
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GEGGGG what a map
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>>544206741
There's not a single character in this game with a high enough skill ceiling to even make meritorious statements about which heroes take skill or not.
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>ABL calls his team niggers then creates a whole new team of random russians to be the best team in EU

what the fuck
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>lose all 3 lanes
>Everyone goes to farm safe camps
>Nobody goes for favored urn
>Not a single word spoken in vc
>Everyone prioritizes team fighting over lane pressure
At this point I just give up. I sell my items, buy stamina and hit boxes until the match ends. I don't care if it's trolling or throwing or baby raging, if it's clear from the getgo that we're the team who deserves to lose then I'm not going to bother anymore.

>sit in spawn and listen to teammates complain about my bad micro while they attempt their third consecutive team fight without any lane clear
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>>544207407
mo and krill player detected
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>team with kelvin bepop ivy wins
wooooooooooooow
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>>544207221
Its different then mine which means he has made a mistake
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>>544207492
>they won by simply ignoring the guardians and walkers and just shit on their base.
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>>544207407
so which of those characters do you main
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>>544207178
His infernus build was also middling when i tried it
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>>544207459
Nta but objectively mo is top 3 highest skill ceiling and its not debatable
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>>544207730
of course my glue sniffing friend
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>>544207178
fucking raped in the inhouse, I think he just asumes you'll be ahead but yeah I can see how it's shite.
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>>544203374
>>544203251
It's because these players are carried to higher ranks by the broken op heroes. Shit like mohammerda, doornigger, nigfernus and a few others. You have so much impact without much effort that you inevitably end up winning a few more than losing. You could argue the same for shit like dyanamo as well.
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What's the best T4 for gun Drifter?
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>>544207407
Doorman (forma de actually using the portals) has crazy high skill expression potential
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>>544207857
you just didn't scream hard enough
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>>544207854
I bet your top 3 is pocket mina paradox like low hp and running the same combo over and over is "skill"
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>chat is discussion "who is the best player"
>"EU is lightyears ahead of NA... so its not an NA player for sure"
Is this true? These EU matches are way more brawl-y than NA
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>>544207337
I'm more just thinking that because trophy collector already gives you hp baseline (and from stacks) I think it would benefit you more if it at least gave you damage from its investment cost since ideally you buy it early and stack it early for maximum souls generated
cultist sacrifice gives you rate of fire and health from its active effect buff so despite being an economy item like trophy collector it provides defensive and offensive stats
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>>544207459
>>544207584
Yamato, Haze, McGinnis and Shiv.

Sinclair is the only character in this game that requires you to dedicate serious time to, to actually be capable of doing well with him. Every single other character can be picked up and understood in 3 games. Yamato as well slightly.
Vindicta is the only other character I might consider difficult because you have to aim her Ult well, but despite never playing her I imagine her sniper hitbox is fucking gigantic like the other hitboxes in this game.

Don't get me wrong Mo/Billy are heroes designed for literal retards but let's not pretend anyone else is some sort of 99th percentile genius for playing other heroes. 80% of this game, like every other MOBA, is just learning how to macro.
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>>544208137
I dont think the stats are the dealbreaker here, one is an active that one shots t3 creep and the other is not
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>>544208130
I think this tournament has exposed EU pretty hard, people thought they were better because there is 0 exposure for them besides zerggy
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>>544208130
after what i watched in EU yesterday. not a fucking chance
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>>544207586
If it doesn't work for you that means you're missing too many shots
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if mellteam wins, racism wins, you dont want that... do you?
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>>544205097
viscous was fucking crazy that game, seriously competed with kelvin in obnoxiousness
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>>544208376
MELLTEAM
MELLTEAM
MELLTEAM
MELLTEAM
MELLTEAM
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>>544208130
The drafts are retarded for sure
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>>544208214
Copium overload
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Is there a character who has better interactions than Geist? Her shitting on everyone she lanes with is always so funny. Calico does it too to retards like Vyper
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>>544208319
>>544208292
>>544208130
The NA grand finals took half the time of the current EU finals and it's still not even the last game yet. EU has much more equally skilled teams, NA has 1 good team
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>>544208843
yeah bro... seeker has way higher quality games than eternus because the games go longer... you nailed it...
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>>544208959
>1 team stomps entire tournament
vs
>Multiple teams have hard fought games (at a far higher skill level to boot)
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>>544205623
If you have seen black people irl you wouldnt have sympathy for them all the more.
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>>544209023
>eu drops a game 70k up after a 40 minute slog
>this is a sign of a highly competitive region

nauhodo...
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>>544208253
that's what I meant when I said originally that trophy collector is way worse because most of its value is backloaded vs cult sacrifice, cult sac gets to start generating money at maximum efficiency as soon as you buy it and it's not influenced by anything past the entire map being farmed out whereas trophy collector means you have to fight early and often if you want to get good returns on it
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>>544208843
this doesnt even disprove NA being better than EU. this just proves EU are all equally as shit
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>>544209218
The games themselves aren't longer, it just isn't 2-0 stomps in the favour of one team each time
>One game in the entire tournament having 3 midbosses stolen because of bug abuse invalidates every other match
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>>544208084
viscous/magician/bebop on high level
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>>544209356
>needing to bug abuse to drag out games is a sign of a good region

naruhodo...
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>>544208840
lash is always fucking hilarious, drifter's mobo rapebeast aura is perfect and i love mokrill's interactions because they are just chill dudes and i like that
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>>544209371
The only hard part about Sinclair is the draft lottery for enemy spells to steal
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playing support in pubs feels useless. we only won because our mina and haze were fed as fuck
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>>544209432
>60 IQ lead drinker is illiterate
なるほど…
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>in the eu grandfinal the paradox player throws her time bomb into the wall

damn this region is competitive as fuck!
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>>544206985
seems pretty useful to me!
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Paige broken plz nerf
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>>544209658
they just need to give her larger breasts
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>>544209639
I accept your concession
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>>544209482
>tracking enemies behind walls and timing the redirect is actually easy
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>>544209639
Hey man some of history's greatest civilizations enjoyed lead pipes
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>>544197404
People have been playing Holliday in my games so much lately I've been losing priority on her
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>>544204339
16 stacks x 25 souls/min/stack = 400 souls/min.
400*4 mins = 1600
Item can be sold for 1600.
= 3200 = item price
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>>544209734
>they just need to give her larger thighs
Fixed a small typo
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>>544210005
Is item sell price is relevant? I would never sell a max stack tc
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>trying new heroes im terrible at on new account
>think enemy haze is a smurf
>nope just valve refusing to rank some guy up with 80% winrate on haze for some reason
https://statlocker.gg/profile/1331563521/matches
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>>544209734
her ass is kinda pathetic right now yoshi needs to get his priorities checked
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>>544210005
sure now you just need to get 16 stacks down 3200 gold
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this dns stream needs to install the mina pantsu mod
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>>544210143
Yeah I don't think it's an item you want to sell unless you end up at like 80k souls somehow
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>>544209567
>support
>pubs
you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded
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>>544210207
no hard to get assists
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>>544210005
I already did the math for max stacks in my post but I mean actually looking up stats for the characters who purchase the item normally and seeing how many kills/assists they get after purchasing the item to see how quickly it'll generate 3200 souls for them
obviously it varies a lot because some games are stomps but It's interesting to think about
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>>544210261
do you not know what support and pubs are?
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>play DotA first time since May 2024
>creep camp pulling autism
>losing gold on sentry wards to do afore mentioned camp autism
>quickly pushing lane as jakiro but also getting all the gold are diametrically opposed goals
>every single other player is a loud angry hispanic from Peru

Jesus Christ I didn't realize what an upgrade from DotA deadlock is
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>>544164508
I 'member when shadow weave Wraith was a thing, pre-ult change. She would shadow weave, zoom around at the speed of sound, catch a solo guy farming, ult and just obliterate you before you could get out of stun
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>>544210359
do you retards run at each other all game or whats going on down there
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>>544210416
Don't worry, Peruvians will be coming to Deadlock soon enough
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>>544210445
huh? im not saying the item is good but to say "good luck getting stacks down 3200" like if you arent in the same 40x40 area as a kill doesnt net you an assist is wild
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>>544210406
Idk if they ever fixed it but you used to be able to use guardian ward and farm assits ez
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SHIV IS RAPING
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>>544210416
peru made me quit too, great otherwise
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this is the best line in the game
https://deadlock.wiki/images/9/99/Drifter_ivy_conversation_03.mp3
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>>544210723
It's so bad it forced NA Dota 2 players whose livelihoods depend on it to start playing on EUW lol
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>>544210751
>>544210751
>>544210751
>>544210751
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>>544210412
dont make this game into something it's not, at least not yet
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>>544210940
nigga, what the fuck are you on about
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>>544210416
I played dota once and fucking hated it, it's absolute ass learning as a new player especially when you're paired against 1k hours players
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>>544209883
it's literal aimbot though, they can me miles behind the wall and it will still track exactly where they are.
or the ability could literally do fuck all and not go where you aim
broken or trash, take your pick
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>>544211067
Yeah thats what happened to me when I tried it, literally everyone else has 1k+ matches, thats why deadlock was good for me since everyone were noobs
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>>544210416
this is still kinda the honeymoon phase of the game where the broad public doesnt play it
sadly in EU you have russians, the equivalent of peruvians
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I don't get people's problems with Russians in online competitive games?
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racism has won...
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>>544212837
i longed racism and won big in the end



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