Previous: >>544041097>[Event] Grail Front - Castle of Shining Dawn, Castle of Shadowed Dusk2025-10-15 01:00 PDT - 11-04 19:59 PSThttps://webview.fate-go.us/2025/1012_grail_front/>[Summon] Grail Front - Castle of Shining Dawn, Castle of Shadowed Dusk Ptolemaîos Pickup Summon2025-10-15 01:00 PDT - 11-04 19:59 PSThttps://webview.fate-go.us/2025/1012_grail_front_pu1/>[Summon] Grail Front - Castle of Shining Dawn, Castle of Shadowed Dusk Taigong Wang Pickup Summon2025-10-19 21:00 - 10-31 20:59 PDThttps://webview.fate-go.us/2025/1019_grail_front_pu2/>[Summon] Grail Front - Castle of Shining Dawn, Castle of Shadowed Dusk Pickup 3 Summon2025-10-21 21:00 PDT - 11-04 19:59 PSThttps://webview.fate-go.us/2025/1021_grail_front_pu3/>[Campaign] Story Clear Support Campaign 2025: Part 42025-10-21 21:00 PDT - 11-04 19:59 PSThttps://webview.fate-go.us/2025/1019_mq_support_cp4/>[News]https://webview.fate-go.us/>[Servant Info]Servant Material Lookup: https://fgosim.github.io/Material/Servant Planner: https://github.com/chaldea-center/chaldeaCoin Calculator: https://fgo-servant-coins.glitch.me/index.htmlRank Up + Interlude Timeline: https://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/relate_quest.htmlRate Up Tracker: https://tohnocoding.github.io/fgobanners/>[Mats/Summoning Info]Rateups in FGO JP: https://files.catbox.moe/lf1qmz.png Quartz for next Summer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iRH60QpLNvHy9MMDKLJGNSg4s7FsDfdXtJtOUVDj5po/edit?gid=162156045#gid=162156045Future Materials Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m-h4CIUOKaJRAmfTAhoDdmwVAzAzyM70cITRb36Y96M/edit#gid=1085975765FGO Event Compendium: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qvxLU407QwiFaCvItqR16SqqAVlLD5u5nBzY_bCFYvs/edit#gid=2111060397Drop Rates: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQAFGO Raw Database: https://apps.atlasacademy.io/>[FAQ]https://rentry.org/alter-faq
MORGAN CASTERSUMMER JEANNE D'ARC ARCHERGRAIL THEM.
>>544179650
Would’ve rolled for picrel if this Bathory was summonable
>>544179650>Sex servant>Sex servant>Sexless servant
I do not like Serenity, she comes on too strong and she has super AIDs.
>>544179941nobody likes her
Latelets will never experience the summer camp horror event. This is injustice. Newbies have rights!
>>544179998
>>544179998You vote for the rerun in a few months.>>544180067Sunday…
>>544180258We won't vote, we get what jp got.
>>544180113This was the VHS tape, right? They didn't do a jump scare. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU_Mf2sIsOk This was also funny because none of the child or old Servants recognized VHS tapes and Emiya Archer felt really out of place and old talking about VHS tapes like ancient civilization tech. We can buy interludes of some big campaigns but not summer events.
>>544180351No…
It's such a shame the spiciest characterizations of Shirou Emiya are locked to events. The summer horror camp event is Emiya as a 30 year old boomer with a bunch of zoomers and ancient ones like Consort Yu making fun of his age. And the BB Fate Extra SERAPH event where he raged himself back to life after Kiara was making a self-congratulatory victory speech mocking humanity. The dude was fucking clinically dead for an hour on the floor, the player was getting the shit beat out of the, and Emiya didn't move an inch until Kiara mocked the humanity/Throne of Heroes as worthless janitors.
>>544180258We’re still missing some tickets from another campaign.
>>544179650I'm too stupid for the event, I never could play checkers or chess. Made a post before but it seems the thread can't be bumped anymore.>>544175881>>544179567>Post a list of your Servants? I was using barely built units with the event CE and cleared finehere's my list, I didn't show all because the rest are lvl 1 and I doubt they can help.
>>544181449uh... one of them is morgan, I think...
>>544181449so i could arts loop
>>544181449>Retard-kun
Disregard that, I knew it was Morgan Caster next to Artoria Caster. I wasn't wearing glasses.
>>544181136nice 0 fps
So, when's the next event? Nemomas?Also, why did they give a damage CE for an event with minimal farming, no CQ and it's a Grail Front where all the Fronts can be beaten without using any CEs?
>>544181878it was funnier if you kept it
>>544181878
>>544181878No its forever enshrined in the throne now.
When's the next 2x exp campaign?
>>544181078>>544180258Hopefully Oberon goodfellow will rig the votes to rerun Lostbelt 6 summer event.
>>544181136Bro your level 100~120 servants? Those extra levels help a lot.Anyway, use the basic MC, the one your start with, it had the shortest cool downs and has ATK up, heal and evade baked into it.For servants, while some of mine were level 120/NP3+ I used Benienma, Melu Jack, Merlin, Draco, Ozzy and Herc.Draco alone can clear any front where you're able to field her. Herc was the only one that ever carried a CE (his bond ce) but he never actually ended up needing it. Honestly don't even bother with CEs, they're just too costly, you can field another servant instead and have advantage in numbers. Also for those nodes that spawn enemies, you can leave a low star servant or even the master on top of it and they won't spawn at all.Also level your fucking Herc.
>>544182654Next month during the DL campaign.https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/29M_Downloads_Campaign
>>544182818>>544181136What I learned is ultimately a Hercules with his bond 10 craft essence and Barghest can do a shit ton of work holding the line by themselves. So if you can deploy Herc and bond 10 CE, yes do it and Barghest with the event damage craft essence. That just leaves you with whatever you want to fill the gaps.
>>544182994Is this when we get our SSR Selector?
>>5441829943 more weeks... until my 1st lvl 120 servant...
>>544183406Who is the lucky character?
What was Wada thinking?
>>544183110Yeah, Barghest is really good for this as well. Generally any character that has a combination of defense up and heal will shine in fronts, you simply throw them into enemy's reach and they just keep killing themselves by attacking you.
>>544183492
>>544183649>thinking?
>>544183928
>>544183360Nah thats next year in October https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/30M_Downloads_Campaign
>>544181136I honestly don't know how to help you, I found it easy and I have an extremely small roaster compared to you. On some grailfronts there is an extra class slot, field draco, she is great. I think in the whole event there are only 2 enemies she is weak against. Another thing is read the dialogue before the mission, they usually explain you how to counter the mission's gimmick. Also select the day events as they are in theory easier. You don't need grailed servants to finish the event, whenever you fight you get showered with crit stars so most fights end at the first turn.
>>544184024Post nut clarity
>>544183649Thinking?
>>544184039Someone said it was this year!!!
>>544183928She's so erotic bros
>>544183406Probably earlier since NA
Is Giga Liz for (You)?
>>544184067>>544183110I managed to beat the 2nd one using barghest, I'm not sure how the event works, but she had regen, but I only deployed marie antoinette and barghest. I don't plan to raise hercules right now, but for now I guess I'll go with "put barghest if saber is available, or draco if possible" and see if that works, thank you.
>>544183649Maximizing the throatfuck allure to make up for her having a dragon body?
>>544183649A person who thinks all the time has nothing to think about except thoughts
>>544183649
>>544184153They lied
>>544184509You will need to be more conscious about who you bring I had to skip summoning a Lancer because I don't have a built Lancer and everything but Summer Ibuki and Altria Caster Berserker were level 70 ~ 80 NP1 and I didn't struggle once.You cannot use Berserkers in half of the Fronts
>>544184832I don't remember giving Nasu permission to use my likenss.
>>544184509>>544184067>>544183781To the anon asking for help and why Barghest came up a lot its because she's a Solo servant. There's not a lot of content FGO in that requires you to field a solo Servant, but she shines in Grail Front due to the mechanics. You want to use all of Barghest's skills immediately and just hit red cards, nothing else matters. Solo Servants are a playstyle since the first Cu Lancer and the latest is that Irish valentine lady Bazett. Solo Servants primarily exploit the gameplay quirks of death/guts. Once a Solo Servant dies, their guts activates and the enemy turn ends. That's why I always recommend a new player at some point to learn how to use Cu Lancer at the start when appropriate so they get a better feel for the mechanics. When paired up with the right craft essence a Solo Servant can do a shit ton of work without any meta support. For Barghest (or whoemever you use as a solo), the qualities you want are HP generation/Guts. Grail Front defaults to whatever mystic code you have in your party, so go back to the main menu and look at the party setup and change the mystic code to something you won't forget it defaults to in Grail Front event.Beyond that there isn't an art to this, you learn as you play (when should you build NP gauge vs red cards). In this event there weren't any Foreigners that I know of so you have more reason to field Hercules if appropriate. Solo Servants: Bazett, Herc, Barghest, Cu Lancer, Qui Shin Huang. The lower rarity means you can bring a craft essence without hurting the deploy costs too much.
what is with every single servant being unable to do anything without having their spirit core ruptured and fucking dying during the losbelts?Are they heroes or paper mache figures?
>>544181136Draco, Jeanne Alter, Kama and maybe Aescly or Illya are the main standout grailfront 5*s here. 5*s are strong but they use up so much cost. Yang Guifei might be useful in some cases.Standout 4*s are Barghest, Nero, Summer Oei, Tomoe, Miyu, maybe Elizabeth LancerStandout 3*s are Cu Chulain Lancer, Ushiwakamaru, David, Cu Chulain CasterThey'll need their Strengthens done.Qin Liangyu and Irisviel can be iffy in formations but good in duels. Not sure on Mary Reed, Tamamo Cat, or DanzoTargets you'll want to consider raising: Medusa Lancer, CaenisHerc can still be usable without his bond CE.Barrier CEs are 1*CEs from fp summon that have 1 party cost and reduce damage by 50 or so. For the mystic codes you wear, consider Atlas, Standard, or Arctic. These suggestions are just what I see scattered in your image and aren't exhaustive. When you pick who to field look at the enemies on the field and see what you'll actually need. With the exception of the ambush map, don't use an expensive servant for 1 shadow class. You get 2+ NPC Archers with damage CEs so David or someone weaker can fill in.
Oh a REALLY good Servant to field for Grail Front as a free filler is Saint George. He has Taunts and Guts so just have him follow someone around as a meatshield. Or park him in a place on the map where enemy respawn to block it. He can tank like 4 turns by himself, did I mention his extremely low AP cost? The downside is you give up having a DPS and Scathach/Ozymandias/Reines but if you're looking for essentially a free Rider Servant on the map this is your guy.
When is the next event
>>544186385https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Event_List_(US)/Upcoming_Events Guda Guda nippon wank that has overstayed its welcome after Okita Alter and Chacha. Does anyone even talk about Chacha? Yeah, point made.
>>544186339I used my George a lot this event, mostly just to cover up miasma. He really is such a cool and timeless servant!
>>544186631All the latelets are waiting on Chacha to open their Berserker class scores.
>Needing to be carried by Bond 10 Herc or DracoHow far have you fallen /alter/ to the point of needing wheelchairs and crutches to complete a simple GrailFront?
>>544186702https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqVVUVMh0R0 George with my Hans.
>>544186631>>544186905>Does anyone even talk about Chacha?Who is Chacha?
>>544186923>It is dishonorable to use designated grail front servants in the one remaining event that highlights their strength!
>>544186001>>544185869thank you for the tips, I'm trying the 3rd map now, I just wonder if the chests are worth it or if It'd be ok to just don't go for them if I have the chance to finish the grail earlier
>>544187359Chests are easy, except in the Asterios maps, and you won't find materials for cheaper AP.
>>544187359There are two sets of chests, wink. If you clear this event Grail Front in Day, then you didn't get the Night map's chest loot. I think the chests are worth it for the material drops. You can never have enough materials (things for skill upgrades and ascension upgrades). And they're essentially free. Unlike past Grail Fronts there's no turn limit (it used to be 15 turns max IIRC), so as long as you stop the enemies from spawning and don't aggro the boss of the map you'll be okay. The hardest map was the final one because of all the gimmicks, my biggest tip is save the NPC Ptolemaios for the boss. He easily hits like a truck against the boss.
>>544179650That's how I want to die
>>544186631>event where Shingen and Kenshin are shippedNo thanks.
>>544187295Dude I don't even have the Servants you mentioned but still completed the Grail Fronts
>>544186962
>>544188665Paizuri
What is this expression supposed to convey?
>>544188950Dick goes here
>>544188513And?
3 Artoria Caster.
Morgan (Caster)
Mogan
Jalter supremacy
Kintokilets?
>>544189903>Np6 one Avalon le Fae>Np1 the other Avalon le FaeIncredibly soulless
>>544190410Supreme wife
Golden Typhoooooon! Thunder bolt! Big Golden!!
>>544189902Telling anon to use wheelchairs and crutches will only make him struggle more, he literally needed advice to complete a Grail Front. I've only been playing for three months Anon, he's been playing long enough to have Draco
Don't call me Kintoki. Call me Golden.It ain't that I don't like the name, it's more of an issue of feeling. You know what I mean? It ain't about how they mean the same thing or about decorum. I'm talkin' about my soul.
Stop posting evil women
Stop talking about yourself
O Surya...bear witness! There is no room for hesitation on the battlefield.O Father, forgive me. This will be my first and likely last strike...!Vasavi Shakti!!!
>>544191676No
>>544190951This is handicap virtue signaling that has no relevance. If the question is who are strong grailfront servants, then people are going to answer with strong grailfront servants. This is the last one, bulldoze it. 90% of the enemies are shadow NPCs with no breakbars.
Anyone else constantly feel like "There's an idea here but its not fleshed out" when reading Paper Moon? Like the writer wanted to write a complete story when he was instructed to write only a chapter of a story, so the result is something that doesn't fit within the confines of the story. Like you created all these rules and systems when most of it isn't really necessary considering it should be a character driven story. Its like he wanted to create an entire RPG about accumulating resources but instead he's supposed to be a short story. Its not just the system but the characters, like the writer didn't quite know where he should focus at times.Like there's potential here, there's a concept, but the editor should have told him where to hone in more or something.
>>544188665Buddhism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o90lSWQT85A Meanwhile in the 4chan /vg/ FGO lostbelt in real life
That fucking Oberon, I'm dying. I would swap friend codes with him for that cosplay alone.
>>544192237
>>544185694Oh. I'm THINKING allright....
>>544192062It is an easy Grail Front and needing to handicap yourself by using strong Servants when you already can't clear without advice won't help you either. When I first joined three months ago an Anon told me not to use revives and to avoid using friend's meta units or strong DPS units so that I can learn how to play and that helped me with learning how units work and different type of fields and the like
So are the new three stars able to be friendpoint summoned?
>>544192182I get what you mean but I got the vibe the editor (nasu) was trying to convey to us that their world is just as valid as ours from their point of view. The mechanics that drive day/night and society for them functions in a way that makes the system work. I agree there was potential for something there if it wasn't beholden to the FGO overarching story of Part 2.5 but eh, it served the job of informing us that big or small the universe of other societies have a valid reason to exist as much as our universe point of view of Earth/solar system and the rest of the galaxies.
>>544193754Next event they get added to the FP pool
>>544193352Enlightenment
Is Bazzet a redhead https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Manann%C3%A1n_mac_Lir_(Bazett) She is Irish
>>544179809.......but I already haze Liz. Why would I want another?
>>544194108I don't get it? Why does she have PTSD?
>>544194005>he wants to fuck BazzetLOL!
>>544193754Only once their introductory banner ends
>>544192182The idea was to make a grail war. Like an actual one, with seven Masters, seven Servants, one team standing. The problem is, that the dynamic was kinda fucked from the start, since only one team is even interested in fighting, while everyone else is pacifistic/neutral. Thus you had fun moments like Zouken coming back like three times. Which might have been okay, but they never focused too much on the camps. Its kinda like you say. In FSN, you had three routes, so for example even though Caster was basically a non-entity that appeared for two minutes in the Fate route to cash in her Bad Ends, and was immediately wrecked by Gilgamesh, in the UBW route you actually saw her motivations and personality. In OC1 you didn't really have another route, so you get stuff like Sakura whose whole character is "nice girl that cares about her area" since she has no extra route. They even make it clear that there could be nothing extra to the characters, since they are AI, so the AI Sakura was legit just slapped with the "Sakura" moniker, without any of her edge or actual issues, similiar to Parvati, but with even less presence.
>>544194424liz inferior, Carm Superior
>>544194817based
>>544193684>strong servants are weakness>everyone must give advice that i do not give>i'm not like all the other girls look at my peacock tail
>>544194953middle liz has a cute hat!Liz Love!!
>Grain Front>Field Morgan Caster and Hercules with Bond 10 CE>Give KScope to Morgan>Rest of the team is whatever>Fight in one battle with both, Hercules now has now 10 fucking Guts total after Morgan's NP and map gimmick Gut pickup buffs>Hercules solos the entire mapMany such cases.
>>544195108All I hear is bitch talk ZeheheheheIf I newer player can do what an older player can't without the need of tips and help, than that older player sucks at the game and needs their hand held less
>>544195475>fgo pro gamer
>>544194698>She's slapped with the sakura monitor but without any of the issuesI think you didn't really get the point of the whole "Alter Ego" thing. You already know who sakura is, you already know who Kama is, you already know who rider is, you already know who Sion is, you already know who the characters are, so when the characters are alter egos of themselves its meant to be immediately obvious they're acting a bit different from normal. Sion is way more mechanical, and a lot more like her Melty Blood self. Sakura is just a farmer who enjoys small things in life, and has no edge, because she's an alter ego. She's not a weak girl, she's a farmer, but she's fine just living out her days easily doing ordinary things.Everyone is boiled down into a single aspect of themselves. Everyone in the story is an alter ego of themselves. Everything about them got boiled down into a small faction of their original selves, so they could hyper focus on a single trait or a single idea. Gilles was turned into Bluebeard who is an alter ego of himself. Chinese guy was turned into an alter ego that only focused on his desire to do as his lord said without thinking for himself, just a machine. The story asks you whether alter egos are good, whether they can be good, whether they're useful. Turning someone into an autistic one note aspect of themselves. In a sense it can be good, eliminating all the negative aspects of someone and hyperfocusing on a single aspect, getting rid of the unnecessary parts. But most of the time it can just result in something far more troublesome. The final battle shows you why it can be good, two people that knew each other reaching a different answer than in life because they became alter egos, they could reach a different answer. Alter Ego is a class that allows heroic spirits to reach an answer that would be impossible for their normal selves to reach.
>>544193848Its like a two volume isekai story where four chapters are dedicated to describing pointless details about the world that will never matter since this world stops existing the second the story is over. Its ironic as shit when Sakurai understands the assignment a bit better this time around and focuses on the characters.Its not just the characters though; even the core concept of alter egos within the story feels barely scratched upon at times. The writer had a concept but he didn't quite bring it out fully.
>>544195369mogon.....
Imagine not having AescYikes!
>>544195892That last bit I felt it hard by the epilogue. We had Xu Fu (whatever her name is, from the Horror Summer Event) appear in the cafeteria and talk to us about the Alter Ego class like a kid giving a class presentation. Rather than organically putting it the Ordeal Call 1 storyline. They raised an interesting point about mass producing Alter Egos but I don't think they nailed the landing. It's also jarring because Alter Ego would define a lot of Servants by default. The 100 Faces Assassins would be an Alter Ego by their nature, same as Jekyll and Hyde (Why WEREN'T THEY IN THIS?? and reclassified as that), and Gilles de Rais.Part 2.5 Ordeal Call should be used to modify past Servants classes. I could describe Alter as a Fate type. Not necessarily evil, but I still couldn't describe the Alter Ego class and I did Ordeal Call 1.
>One of the Hassans, the Old Men of the Mountain. Due to the vast variety of skills and the breadth of experience, as well as a mind that no one could predict, they were known and feared as the "Hundred Personas." However in truth, "they" are the result of what would later be called Dissociative Identity Disorder, commonly known as Multiple Personality Disorder.>Official FGO profile>Not an Alter Ego though because uh...https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/Hassan_of_the_Hundred_Faces
>>544195675>Call myself a newb several times>'hurr durr this fag thinks that he is a pro at FGO guys, can you believe it?'The amount of retardation is immeasurable
>>544195970Shut the fuck up
>>544196448>Part 2.5 Ordeal Call should be used to modify past Servants classesNo, just do their strengthening Quests and be happy also mind you the Kama parts were harder in JP as Kali used to resist and dude extra damage to Kama
>>544179650>complete 6 free quests while there's an event going onWho's the retard who came up with this?
>>544196939>rank up questsI still don't get why Kama got buffed. She got an NP strengthening but she was already hitting like a truck.
>>544193684>When I first joined three months ago an Anon told me not to use revives and to avoid using friend's meta units or strong DPS units so that I can learn how to playYou'd have to be functionally braindead to not understand how to play FGO. What that anon did was waste your time.
>>544197014It's one silver apple out of the 20 that they give you from the logins.
>>544196448According to LB7 Alter servants are servants who "Betrayed or abandoned the thing that means the most to them, or fundamentally makes up their core value". Pretty easy to understand, and XIquic specifically said she didn't just mean alters in LB7, she used Cuzilla as an example of someone who didn't want to become king, becoming a heartless king because that's what he believed a king had to be. Arthuria Alter became an alter because she gave up being a good king and became a tyrant. Alter Ego however, it COULD make sense if its a hyper focused aspect of a servant exaggerated into a servant, creating an autistic version of a servant that only represents a certain aspect of them, if you didn't ALSO have shit like Sitonai being Alter Egos which makes no sense. The Sakura Five egos are aspects/egos of BB, but at the same time they're also hyper focused on a single emotion which is talked about in CCC, they fit the definition of alter ego just fine.Like, Alter Ego should be used to create a version of a servant that would be literally impossible otherwise. Like Alter Ego Gilgamesh in FSF which is 100% human Gilgamesh, something that couldn't exist in life. It hyperfocuses on his human aspects and removes his divine aspect entirely.Alter Ego as a class doesn't just make a servant more focused, but it can also remove aspects that you find unnecessary. Like 100 Face Hassan Alter ego wouldn't simply hyper focus on a single element, but it would remove all unecessary elements, hyper focusing on a single personality. You lose a lot but you also gain a lot; like how Bhima was an alter ego of himself back during his palace days when he was a chef, all he cares about is cooking, he can still fight but he doesn't really care about fighting at all, all he does is try to make his master happy with cooking.
>>544185982>7 lostbelts in>"Oh no... My spirit core is disappearing... I will never be summoned to Chaldea again..."
>>544195743While true, they barely touched upon the Alter ego aspect itself until the end, which was kind of to the chapters detriment. It was something of a mystery on why everyone acts strange, when Guda even seems to notice, but the way it ended up being resolved was "Rani told us that everyone was an AE". Maybe if that was more focused on, things could be better.
>>544196621Could be bigger.
>>544185982>Theseus has his spirit core destroyed with black barrel, an immortal killer>Spends the next few days without a heart just kinda staying alive>Still sticks around in the end to finish off Typhon>Disappears quite normally
>>544195369>park Herc too close to the enemies>they deplete his guts one by one
>>544197014*crushes your balls*
>>544197730>>544195924https://youtu.be/RT4jsx4IWBo?t=27
>>544197625You understand that black barrel is an even cheaper copy of the one we got from Sion right?
>>544192182My only issue with OC1 was that Sion keeps bringing up how strange Kama was acting when we just had various events taming her to where she didn't seem strange at all.
>>544197795WHAT THE F
>>544197912Sion doesn't charge us for anything. She does it for free. What's your point?
>>544197912Then what's the point of it being black barrel at all if it doesn't do anything?
>>544198209>click the imageWait a minute your bond 10 Hercules Craft Essence doesn't look lore friendly.
>>544198253The old man thought it was cool.
>We have Hercules at home4 star Berserker.>Hercules when he isn't in Chaldeashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAC-L4L-cuo
>>544197625>immortal killerWell, there's your problem. Theseus isn't an immortal. Checkmate atheists.
Don’t forget to complete your master missions if you haven’t yet.
>>544198868DUMB BITCH! mind your own business! YOUR NOT MY REAL MOM!
>>544198868I did them on the first day! I'll do next week's as soon as possible as well
>>544197625I mean in the actual losbelts, Thesus at least had at excuse, grail+plus "le hanging by a thread". I ran into it several times by Atlantis and i am already sick of it.
>>544198209Gudako can take him.
>>544198868My procrastination has paid off by delaying those grail fronts to this week got to clear the missions with them.
>>544198868Thanks mom, love you! But I already did them.
>>544198868
>>544197215Clearly you are wasting this Anons time by telling him that he should field a unit that deals extra damage to all of the Standard classes and resists all of the Standard classes. He should know all of this because he's the one who rolled the servants in the first place
LOGIN RIGHT HOLY SHIT BIG NEWS NEW BANNER 10/27
>>544199592IS THAT MORSTER?!
>>544199592Cute Lilith
>>544199592>underage sex bannerWOW! thanks japan. you bunch of pedos
>>544198868Mom come back I need your lap to take a nap for the reset.
>>544199746ririsu not a qt. not a complete wifeworthy qt at all!
>>544200001The gayest post itt
>>544199549I'm not the anon you were talking to. I'm a different anon, and I saw you say something retarded. Just thought I'd point it out for future reference.
>>544200179but I chastely love mash. I cant be gay
Woodwose got wood…
>>544200275I bet the yuyu boobsweat REEKS
>>544199592Ermmm... what the Aesc?
>>544200180>Hey bro what you said was retarded, even though you are clowning on anon who has been playing for longer than you and wasn't smart enough to just use his Beast class servant or any of his level 90sI can't tell if you are special or whatever
>>544200471pheromones aren';t real. who'd even want to spread pheromones in (your) room Loser?!
>>544200518>Wtf bro, we're on the same side!You can call out an anon for being retarded without throwing in an equally retarded comment. FGO isn't complicated, anon.
ALBEEEEERTRERUN AESC AND MY PAYCHECK IS YOURS
>>544199770>>544199746>>544199681On a serious note what do you think will be the Thanksgiving banner? NA gets exclusive reruns during this time of year. We can use the process of elimination and the 2025 schedule to deduce. For example Summer BB will have 2 total banners this year, so nope. Skadi and Arjuna Alter are coming back in November/December so nope to them, especially as it would be 3 Arjuna Alter in one year. Scathach, Morgan, and Artoria Caster all reran in September and I'm certain they had another in 2025 already. Kuku appeared twice this year, as did Tezca. The list gets shorter and shorter as we eliminate all of Lostbelt 6 and 7 Servants as they had rate up twice this year. Rasputin and his Apostles cohorts ran this year and Vitch Dark had a rate up. There's gonna be all Japanese Servants in Fall/Winter too.But if I had to guess it might a combination of Abigail Williams, Super Bunyan, Van Gogh, King Hassan, Charlemagne, or Jeanne Alter.
>>544201308>Giving a minor a rack that bigWhat was the artist thinking?
>>544201324milly's Biggest nightmare.....
>>544201509after last night kiyo kiyo promised she'd only use her morph power for Good, not Evil
>>544200660?! What are you doing??
>>544201324Big Teen
Albert we know you have spies here. Don't put something like Ivan the Terrible for Thanksgiving, or Odysseus. No one will be rolling for Quetzalcoatl after Kuku.I'm thinking James Moriarty, Van Gogh, Sherlock Holmes, and probably miss Crane will be the Thanksgiving Servants based on the elimination frequency theory. On average the heavy popular Servants have rerun twice this year so for any of them to appear on Thanksgiving would be 3 times which is too much. That leaves us with Servants that only ran once this year or none at all.
>>544202068I am rolling for Quetzalcoatl
>>544201324Millky…
>>544202203Quote me on this, Quetzalcoatl will not be in the Thanksgiving banner. Here's 2024. Scathach used to be a regular Thanksgiving Servant but with her just recent appearance this is a no go in my opinion. Come on Albert Kao, give us Van Gogh. I need to take the curse pill.
>>544202467Tamamo sex
Here was the 2023 Thanksgiving banner. A lot bigger than I remember.
>>544202203adios to your hip bones. they will be high impact fractured into dust
>>544202068>
>>544202467Surely it'll be the Ibuki banner that they skipped in favor for those shitters
>>5442028862017 to 2020 Thanksgiving banners.
Thanksgiving will always be Shishou's holiday regardless
>>544202789I have her NP2, hoping for 5 someday
>>544180351>>544180258lets say we vote, what makes you think Dracunny wont win anyway?
>>544202985Only thanks that I'm giving is that I can save yet again
>>544202871I could win any Holy Grail War with just Leomon
im a big guy
Castoria if real
>>544204181thank god she isnt real
>>544204181what about Castoria if she was fake tho?
powerful image
>>544204305
>>544204361a wig and contacts arent powerful! they're just whore equipment
Saber if real
>>544202467It might be Caren. You know, Love, gratitude and all that.But in any case, I might pick up Hassan from this for a Death Proc team with Shiki.
>>544201324
>>544204579Boudica Love!
>>544204824
>>544204579
>>544204726Caren can FUCK OFF! Dumb Whore
>>544202985Gil the patron saint of thanksgiving it seems
Be thankful for being a Caster Morganlet and Jeanne d'Arc Archerlet.
>>544203397Well, he dies as many times as the angry mango in FHA and Cu in FSN/Carnival Phantasm,so I guess it fits Bazette
Can I get Aesc Morgan with 4000 quartz? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8iYYxCrpEk
Abby sexhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/135366467https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/136719722
>>544204042>>544204042>>544204042>>544204042
>marie alter
>>544210973Thanks for sharing this.
>>544213618Diving into her hatch.
https://files.catbox.moe/by4hch.png
>>544204778
>>544215498*pat*
>>544211619hachi fuckin machi
>>544204361Me on the left
>>544208556isn't there a pity system at 900 quartz?
>>544208556No, you need at least 5000
>>544215487where is that animation from?
>>544215498I can't wait to roll for her in four months
I now understand Sanzang's pits.
>>544215487Me in the middle>>544216215https://youtu.be/_L1KoVoJXlI
Hello, gays!
>>544203258The only reason it won on jp was because Draco is excluded from gssr and no one knew when she would come back. Now we know jp rerun every servant 10 times every year so no point in voting for it
>>544216231
>>544217875>modifiedsomebody came on that
>>544217001But I liked the event
>>544194005It's described of her in Hollow Ataraxia (I think through Angra's inner dialogue) that her hair is indeed red and her eyes are brownish colored if I recall correctly. Which I found interesting when I read that as it shows a different color perception for the characters inside the story. To them she is seen as a redhead (I guess Scathach would be seen as much too) instead of the purple-ish anime hue we see.Makes me wonder, would Raikou be described in-universe as being dark haired despite her hair's design being blueish?
>>544183649Triple Goddess Eli-chan
>>544188023>mfw she turns me into her toering
>>544183649Those middle arms don't like like they have much range of movement
>>544218508Yes, but you can just read the story in your room again anyway. It's just a standard mission based event, no real need for a re-run.
wehn do we get another raid? I want to actually farm bond and I lke thsose
>>544219721GudaGuda 8 in November
>>544219721no more raidsraids cancelled on NA because you all kept making fun of albert
>>544218580Probably
Watching Fate/Zero first time. Why didn't Tohsaka ever doubt Kirei? His own daughter didn't trust him. Irisviel told him that they had a history with him.
>>544220431>His own daughter didn't trust himYeah, because FSN happened AFTER FZ.
>>544220431Because he was Gil levels of arrogant
>>544220531>Yeah, because FSN happened AFTER FZ.She got the ick from episode 1
>>544204361>There can be only one!
>>544220431Urobutcher writing
>>544220823>Urobutcher writingKirei stated in UBW that he killed Tokiomi. Urobutcher had nothing to do with it
>>544220431Why would the current head of the well-established and renowned Tohsaka family ever doubt his own intuition?
>>544220431Thinking the Church isn't going to make an active play for the grail isn't that strange. He probably just thought Kirei was a true believer and didn't give a shit about the grail war past lowering collateral damage. Tohsaka was not particularly smart though
Is Gilgamesh supposed to be the biblical snake? Why is Kirei's nose so big?
I forgot to do my last weekly because I was so focused on playing Pokemon, fuck
>>544221227bricked account, buddy
>>544221227You will remember this next time you roll.
Why does Gilgamesh become completely evil when he's not wearing his armor?
True.
>>544221227I KNOW who you are! Stop spamming sand and mudslap!
>>544221441I always remember someone describing this scene as Iskandar saying that being retarded is awesome while Gil giggles like a faggot and somehow Saber has no rebuttal to any of this.
>>544221290>>544221431Gave up 1SQ for this guy. Worth it honestly.
>>544222028those tits are HUGE!
>>544221020A more competent writer could have come up with a better setup for kirei killing tokiomi
>>544222178
>>544221441>Why does Gilgamesh become completely evil when he's not wearing his armor?Continued in UBWIn Fate route he tries to act kingly
>>544222178Moom
Best senpai in the universe.
>>544222243>A more competent writer could have come up with a better setup for kirei killing tokiomiPost your genuine criticism's of Zero's writing
>>544222527stupid fat vampy with her stupid fat paisen tits
>>544222335
What was Kirei's answer?
>>544223148jalter
>>544222937
>>544181136You get bonus from ganging up on them. One random bonus for each servant joining fight. So 3 servants get 3 bonuses, 4 get 4... Placing your servants well and you'll steamroll even with support Ptoley and Sugitani
Would you suck alberts fat cock if it meant you can spend eternity with Kama afterwards?
Jalter, it's butt time.
>>544223148He never found it since he failed to birth angry manjew
>>544224850Why did avenger burn down the town at the end of Zero? What would have happened if Kiritsugu agreed to become angra mainyu?
>>544181136Prioritize making team with SR and SSR servants, don't waste cost equipping SSR CE. Equip SSR servant with the basic rare 50% charge CE is better than a Rare servant with SSR CE.
>>544225315Low star servants with damage CE > high rarity servants with cheap/no CE
>>544226237Bronze servant with no CE > Rare servant. Source: my grailed Kojirou soloed the entire Taigong's gang
>>544221441He's only a cartoon villain in the Fate route, because the entire final act of that route is just a shallow retread of the last act of Arc's route in Tsukhime, right down to the tacky 'date' that segues into the cocky ex stealing the girl.
AAAAA
>>544225185He’d become bald
>>544224846
Jalter more like falter
>>544226635>He's only a cartoon villain in the Fate route, because the entire final act of that route is just a shallow retread of the last act of Arc's route in Tsukhime, right down to the tacky 'date' that segues into the cocky ex stealing the girl.Why is Nasu so ashamed of Fate route?
>>544228693He's ashamed that he gave the objective best girl the worst route. Much like Tsukihime!
>>544227214Understandable then
Why do they continue to put Code Removers in event shops? Most useless item in the game.
i still need 32 bells for berserker castoria...
>>544228962Because there's at least a few autists who take "clear the shop" literally
>>544228962They should have just put them in the shop area for turning extra welfare ascension items into QP when they changed the mechanic.
>haydee looks like gudakoIt's starting to make sense.
>>544228962>>544229063Eventually they will add a second use for them, like they did for monuments, and you will regret skipping them
Hard to believe they thought this was an SSR-worthy skill when she came out
>>544229187Other than hair color I'm not seeing a lot in common
>>544229313Unless it's like using a shit ton of them to remove grails (which would be soulless as fuck), I'm struggling to think of anything you could do that keeps their theme intact
Write Saber and Shirou beating Berserker without it seeming like an asspull
>>544229768i'm not your chatgpt girlfriend
>>544229768They kill him 12 times.
>>544229768Have garcher kill all but one of berserkers lives onscreen this time. Leave the last to shirou and saber
>>544229768>Saber summons shadows of the knights of the round table and gets so desperately low on mana she has to get fucked in the shackBut that's and asspull you say? Fuck you, every other king servant has that shit these days.
I just reread the VN. There is a lot of stuff I dont get.>Why did Kirei need to feed those orphans to Gil if he got true incarnation from the Grail?>Why did Gil try to take Sakura down when he wanted to summon the corruped grail in the other routes?>Why did Gil kill Illya in UBW instead of just using her like Kirei did in Fate given that was the most convenient choice?>How the fuck was Kirei still alive at the end of HF?>How come in Fate and UBW, Rider was on board with a plan that required to kill the entire school INCLUDING SAKURA?>What the fuck was Rin´s plan to deal with Dark Sakura at the end of HF? why did she think taunting the already pissed off Dark Sakura was a good idea? the narration says she was about to give up (because Rin kept countring everything she threw at her) before Rin began to open her mouth, and also, why did she think a fucking dagger would be enough to kill her? Gil threw worse at her and she tanked it all
>>544229768Have Gil kill all Herc lives in all three routes. No one else should be able to take out even one life.
Actually cool to look back at the Memorial Movie right now and see Ptolemaios being featured there. He mentions the indian guy in the story and funny thing, some of the guys he learned to mimic, forming a schizo compartimentalized personality, some of them are probably there too.
the vn isn't canon only fgo is canon
>>544230193>gets so desperately low on mana she has to get fucked in the shackgod I wish they still did this now even if a servant is actively disappearing all it takes is a firm handshake
>>544230567that video and song still make me emotional
I just figured that Melusine NP refunds like half of her np, is this a feature for Melusine or just to art damage nps? I am a latelet.
>>544230870Arts NPs normally do that and quick ones do too to a lesser extent. The servant's NP gain stat and the hit count of the NP is also important in the calculation, melusine's is pretty good.
>>544230620You jest, but it does seem Type-Moon/Nasu is trying hard disregard everything pre-FGO and start anew. The lore changes in the Tsukihime remake are a sign of that.
>>544231013so is it better to launch the arts np first and select 2 arts cards later to help fully refund it or the np does more damage if i leave it for last? in a brave chain or a art card first?
>>544230474>>How come in Fate and UBW, Rider was on board with a plan that required to kill the entire school INCLUDING SAKURA?Nasu didn't come up with HF until after he wrote UBW
>>544181136>All those SSR'sDAMN. How long have you been playing?
>>544183649I love my fat goth dragon wife.
>>544231101i wasn't joking, that's my headcanon
>>544231247NPs don't actually get card bonuses for being 2nd or 3rd so yeah you want it to be 1st most of the time
>>544231556ah, this wasn't mentioned in anywhere. Thanks.
>>544231556>NPs don't actually get card bonuseswoah...
>>544231247Lancer melus art np? Should be first with her arts cards to follow for refund, especially because she gets np gain rate up on np use. Nps dont get bonus damage from their positions like face cards do, only if they follow another np and the overcharge is relevant
>>544231845Ruler Melu(summer) is the one with the art NP, Lancer Melu is the one with the buster NP.I see, thanks. The i guess it's the same for buster Nps, i better put the NP first.
Was NLBW an asspull? There's no foreshadowing
>>544232140Why do his fingers not line up with the handle?
>>544232140Nope. Archers arm was uncharted territory and he had to accomplish something crazy with it before it started killing him
>>544232140yes, it is an asspullmost people cut it some slack because it comes with the price of Shirou losing his mind and being put on the path to certain deathIf we had Ilya's actual route it would have been properly foreshadowed and developed but this is one of those scraps that didn't make it in
>>544232081Melu lancer has a single target arts np in ascension 1 and 2
>>544232453It doesn't refund 50% though
>>544231424Medusa owes me sex
>>544232453yeah you are right, i am bit drunk right now,forgot that she changes np with her third skill since i have been using summer Melu since i got her.But is there a difference? buster Np don't refund NP but since they get no damage modifier it's ok if you put them first so it's the same minus the refund?
How the fuck i am supposed to use Oberon? i cucked myself during a NP chain since i used him first.
>>544232524?
>>544232791That's the neat part. You don't.There is literally no reason to ever use Oberon. His buffs perma stun your damage dealer. It's retarded.
>>544232409>If we had Ilya's actual route it would have been properly foreshadowed and developed but this is one of those scraps that didn't make it inWhat do we know about Ilya's actual route?
>>5442327911. Don't use his NPIt you can't then2. Use his NP lastIt you can't then 3. Use a servant with pierce invuln or defensive buff removal
>>544232857I think he mean lancer Melu.
>>544232603Buster nps should be first most of the time. Niche situations would be like, i need to reach 100% on another servant and starting the chain with an arts card could make it happen. So, Arts Buster NP Arts. I can also start with a quick card to help guarantee a crit as well.
>>544232936All the Ilya scenes (shopping, "Save Ilya Save Ilya Save Ilya", and probably also the True Ending where she saves Shirou) in Heaven's Feel were scrapped Ilya route scenes. Also it would be a route where Rin kills Sakura and becomes the final villain.
>>544232936The secrets of the grail war and fourth war stuff would be revealed in her route, but was moved to sakura's route It would also involve illya sex
>>544232967so i just use him for 2 skills?
>>544233106Are we talking about his NP or his third skill? You said NP chain
Fuck you all in this general for tricking me into unlocking Ooku.
Somehow Saber has returned
>>544233235The sure don't make them like that anymore
>>544233235HAHAHAHAHA IDIOT
>>544233235Make sure to fight the final boss with full meter for extra rewards.
>>544233172Just using Oberon in general, by what i gathered people just use him to farm and save the suicidal skill for the last wave. So he is useless for boss killing?
>>544233327>>544233316>>544233310>>544233331>The labyrinth/corridor continues >-1APGo fuck yourselves.
>>544233331
Somehow there's a true assassin
>>544233459Loading and broken up reading aside, you do get a lot of quartz/mats for your AP
>>544233331He's not as good in boss fights as he is in farming but he's still pretty good for them. His third skill will make its target dead weight at the end of the turn but half the time its value comes from the fact it grants a 3 turn taunt, sometimes you want the boss to take out one of your servants and third skill does precisely that.
>>544233484what the absolute flying fuck? i see now, thank you for opening my eyes. Shame i decided to only pull for cute girls and beautiful women instead of m*n.
Somehow there's an 8th servant
>>544233331His main use is in farming, especially higher end nodes where he gives a shit ton of np charge and turns a dps into a tactical nuke. His np is only used in extremely niche situations so he's fine at np1. You use him for his skills.Boss killing is fine if you have game knowledge and know the mechanics of the boss, but its just better to not use him.
>>544232979That is lancer melu
>>544233875I should stop posting and go to sleep.
>>544234042Good night
>>544234042It's okay anon. Drunk posting on 4chan is safe.
>>544233868Makes sense, thanks anon.
>>544233768If you dont care about high end farming or lack the brain cells to figure it out, keep rolling with your dick. Bugboy is just for farming.
>>544234289nah, i do need to farm since barely any of my servants is past skill level 6 also farming events it's kind of a pain so i see the need.
>>544234382>farming eventsAre you trying to 3 turn nat AP events? Really no reason to. There's like 3 or 4 times a year you need to be efficient with farming events and using apples
>>544234597nah, i mean i can't even clean the current event shop but that's due lack of time to farm so i want to be efficient with the little time i have. Having to work+study+chores is a fucking pain.
A drop at this point is ridiculous.
Post your unpopular Fate opinions
>>544234818If you don't need the CE for the event always buy it last to account for a drop and saving yourself 200+ event mats
>>544234818what's the chance of CE dropping?
>>544234894
Morgan Caster and Artoria Caster use the same exact staff. The differences are minor, as Artoria got the staff after Morgan abandoned her duty. Merlin's staff is very similar. Both Morgan and Merlin animations use a mixture of surprise sword play. Incidentally Merlin's smug mannerisms are copied by Morgan Caster's youngest form in the victory pose.
>>544235039And they masturbate with the same hand too
>>544234868The Karna vs. Sieg fight in Apocrypha that everyone thinks was "peak animation" sucked ass and was the opposite of what I like seeing in fights. The audio direction that it took (as well as babylonia) was annoying to me too
>>544235039So which one of schizos morgans multiple personalities did Merlin fuck?
>>544235039Artotia Caster's animations were designed prior to the final draft of LB6 where Oberon's role became much more significant
>>544234868Not adding a Sub-Saharan African Servant, famous Chinese Warlord or famous Korean Warlord is a huge miss
>>544234868Heian-Kyo was good, actually
>nobu fp banner nextHow many friend points have you saved up alter? I'm at 11 million
>>544234382Are you the newcutie in the middle of Camelot?
>>544235469
>>544235264>>544235185>>544235039Merlin talked to the young LB6 Morgan, right? The staff of selection is a smartphone so he would've taught her in the Aesc days.
>>544236054Merlin even fucked LB6 Morgan once
>>544235608No, i am at Atlantis. Started from zero around the last Raikou baner a few months ago.
>>544236109>Aorura fake newsShut up Woodwose.
>upgrades for all the Lizzes!>haha jk not the best 3
>>544235720how?
>>544236242Nope. Merlin fucked her good
>>544236109damn. Is hate fucking as good as people say it is? I never tried it.
>>544236923better
>>544236923The best fuck she ever had
what the fuck, why all bell drops are in Avalon le fay when i am still 2 Losbelts away? My Melusine needs like 72 per skill.
>>544237540Bro your pure prisms?
>>544237540The material was released when LB6 was released (which is what melusine is from) so they just expected players that have her to be at that part of the story
>>544234868snek milk is delicious and makes my peepee BIG
>>544237769He said unpopular
Sorry about having a meltdown earlier, I'm actually enjoying the Ooku quite a lot. The team compositions are solid with just 2 Servants and a Friend support, once again I apologize. I'm happy in Ooku. Catpcha: YES00.
>>544238093Now imagine that you have to enjoy the Ooku 2 more times
>>544236743You're the definition of don't mess up with us, we never read the game but create headcanon.
>>544238297Okay buddy, your point being? Or you just felt the need to say that
Was the Holy Grail a mistake?
>>544238093>he got the call
>>544238402You're mentally ill that's it
>>544238734This is like asking "was invading Russia a mistake?"
>>544238740>>544238262Level up your Servants. Name dropped.
>>544238914Takes one to know one
>>544238734Yes
>>544239090Latelet here, no mats or QP.
https://x.com/_Kaniebi_/status/1981395731387994393
>>544239514where do you even find this schizo shit
>>544239582X.com
>>544239514poor kadoc kun, who will sooth his broken heart after that slutty no good stinky cunt Harlot had her way with him?
Okay, bros, I'm only a year and three months into this game and so naturally, this is my first ever Grail Front. And right now, I'm a bit stumped. How do I clear all this shit, especially with the spawn circles and the next few grail fronts down the road?
>>544238734The better question would be where are my 20 tons of hom tits and ass?
>>544240104you have draco. put the event ce on her and have them come to you. She destroys this grail front. you can cheese by ending turns to refund skill cooldowns, just be aware adds will spawn, but if you place your own units on top of spawns they won't come in.
>>544240104>120 DracoShe can solo every grail front>the next few grail fronts down the road?We don't get any
>>544240104If you have the event CE put it on Draco, she can literally carry you by herself.you can use lower cost servants to stick on the miasma stuff to prevent backup, and have another servant hopping around collecting treasure chests.
pod time
>>544240286>>544240287Strong and Cute Shrimp!
Why does cunny draco have a tail but hag draco doesn't?
>>544240971Do your master missions before you do your pods.
>>544230109>>544230489Herckeks will get mad, but Herc only exists to job and make Garcher and Gil look strong. Even in FGO, he is jobbing to make (You)r favorite the Grand Berserker.
>>544233235I did Ooku only because it was required to get Kama´s coomer CE.
>>544241310Gil is extremely powerful but the primary reason he turns Herc into swiss cheese is that he's a hard counter to Herc
>>544240286>>544240287>>544240384Oh, okay, got it! I've always heard though that Draco is like the MVP of this Grail Front, with others like Kagekiyo, Abby and other ST NP users being up close.
>>544241550AI
>>544241445>kamafag in charge of reading kama's event
>>544241589Its like a million clicks anon.
>>544241446>Einzbern attempts to cheat by summoning Herc early before the war>Gil already hard counters him despite being summoned 10 years agoWhy can't they cheat right?
>>544241637Yeah and I played it three times and I don't even like Kama
>>544241841:(
>>544241809The einzberns have been cheating at the holy grail war in every war since the first one and they lose every time.
>>544241809Name one servant that's summonable in a normal HGW that beats Gil.
>>544230567Remember when Redman was part of Iskandar's army
>>544242220Mata Hari
>>544242220Charlotte
>>544241446>Gil is extremely powerful
>>544241809Why did they summon him as a berserker?
>>544242247Waver too haha, that was me (and a bunch of people) when watching Fate/Zero for the first time
>>544242421Best class to take advantage of Illya's infinite mana supply
>>544237769Omni-san for Valentines next year
>>544241809The Einzberns constant attempts to cheat or stack the deck in their favor only for it to backfire is hilarious.>third war, break the rules and summon a divine servant>whoops, got the weakest ass evil god, lose early then he taints your magic cup too>4th war, have a catalyst to summon the strongest king of knights...and then pair her up with a pragmatic assassin with no honor>honestly if Kiritsugu summoned assassin before Kirei he'd have cleared the war in a couple days>5th war, summon motherfucking Hercules>but stick him in berserker, when he would probably be stronger if he was any other class he qualifies for
>>544242723>OmniLook what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
>>544242723itll be somebody we have never heard of before or ever wanted
I did it!
>>544243092nice
>>544241809Because they are literally Cursed by the grail by building it wrong, as a joke.
>>544243154I'm glad she surprised me while I was rolling for event ces
>>544243092good job anon
>>544241809IIRC, the actual Einzberns are lone gone and all that´s left is a single homunculi (the old man) who keeps making more homunculi until one of them wins. In essence, the "family" is now just a bunch of automatons with limited foresight.
>mastermind folded 1000 times keikaku in the works for hundreds of years>repeatedly fuck it up so consistently you rival team rocket>random japanese teenager joins war by total accident>wins in three different timelines
>>544241094It stores the nutrients that let it grow big. When she becomes Big Umu they are all used up therefore no tail. It shrivels and falls off.
>>544243437>IIRC, the actual Einzberns are lone gone and all that´s left is a single homunculi (the old man) who keeps making more homunculi until one of them wins. In essence, the "family" is now just a bunch of automatons with limited foresight.Redpill me on Einzberns lore
>>544243437whoa! that's freaky!
>>544243437>Einzberns are down to one old man and just a bunch of homunculi>Matous down to one old man and his magicless grandson>meanwhile Tohsaka's are thriving so good current head had not one, but TWO powerful daughtersBased oriental mage family dabbing on these european shitters.
>>544241809I don't think they knew what happened at the end of the last HGW and that Gil ended up accidentally undergoing palingenesis.
>>544243686Post more
>>544243720Would Tokiomi approve of Shirou?
>>544243720No wonder Kariya became an envious cuck when Tohsaka's seed is this potent.
>>544243092cute gil bro
>>544243886
>>544243956Did Kariya actually care about saving Sakura?
>>544243092you need to stop playing around and b6 more servants.
>Hercules somehow doesn't crush Rin to death
>>544244146probably a bit, but getting one over Tokiomi was also his goal.Like if he really wanted to save her he could have just told Tokiomi "btw, my creepy granddad isn't teaching Sakura magic, just tossing her in the family worm pit."
I'm so glad we got Morgan le Fay Caster version wearing practically nothing
>>544244146It got lost over his raging hate boner for Tokiomi
>>544244310Man Takeuchi can't draw forearm muscles for shit lmao
>set up like a battle royale but really is just fighting each servant one at a time >Rider, Berserker, Caster, then GilgameshDefend this
>>544244493It's a war of espionage
>>544241809Remember when the 4th Holy Grail War ended with an epic battle between Saber and Gil in a sea of flames?Why didn't we get that in Zero?
>>544244493Fate route was treated more like an introductory chapter for each character than anything else. UBW was more like a battle royale with alliances forming naturally based on strengths and weaknesses.
>app version error
>humans can fight servantsBravo Nasu
>>544243092HAG LOVE
>>544244806Stupid brit
>>544244857>Gareth>Hag
DEEN did add some kino scenes we should have got in the VN>Caster vs Rider>Archer vs Berserker>Lancer vs GilgameshWonder how Nasu would rewrite the Fate route for the 20th anniversary?Good inclusions would be:>Way more Lancer, Rider, Caster, and Berserker. No UBW scenes. Entirely new scenes>Garden of Avalon backstory >Last Episode epilogue
>>544243530I dont remember where it was stated, but basically, the Einzberns, as in, the actual magi family, went pretty much extinct a long time ago due to their failed attempts of recapturing the True Magic they once had, they were all so ashamed of their failure they either deserted the family or literally killed themselves. All that´s left now is Jubstacheit (the old Einzbern man from Fate/Zero), who is himself the last homunculous created directly by Einzbern human members, and a bunch of unimportant magi that are not really part of the family and are basically their jannies by handling all the the burocratic aspects of the family while the old man keeps trying to clone Justeaze for the Holy Grail War
>>544243956Kariya never cared about magi affairs. In fact, the hated all of that shit which is why he deserted from the family in the first place.
Could Kirei have beaten Zouken in Zero?
>>544245205to be fair, if I was told our family magic was freaky ass rape-bugs I'd hightail it outta there too.
>>544243871No. I'll only be posting cute Illya pics that nobody will be able to masturbate to
>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to write FSN>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to write FHA>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to ask Urobuchi to write FZ>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to remake Mahoyo>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to remake Tsukihime>Takeuchi pushed Hiroyama to make PRISMA ILLYA>Takeuchi pushed Nasu to write FGOTakeuchi deserves his Saber route remake with Sony's funding
>>544245505you're not even going to figure out how those magic rape bugs can benefit you personally? pussy
>>544245632I'm honestly surprised it hasn't gotten a new movie yet, like UBW got a movie and then a show then HF got 3 movies.Saber is still the face of the franchise so she and her route deserves it.
>>544245269You know, Kirei obsessively going to the ends of the earth to crush every single maggot of Zouken's dead corpse is something I didn't know I wanted. It wouldn't be easy but he was an executor so I'd bet on him.
Remember when Kirei had mud powers?
The gook is going all out
>>544245874yeah, I also remember him being a bad dad
Why was Kirei so offended by Zouken?
>>544246026He's bald.
Why does Ptolemy remind me of Zelretch
>>544244652People blame Urobutcher for inconsistencies like this, but I honestly believe that change was requested by Takeuchi (through Nasu) because otherwise the implication is that the fire was caused by their fight which means Saber is partially responsible for Shirou´s parents´ death, and Takeuchi cant have his precious Mary Sue be that.
Nothing beats the good ol' tried-and-tested pincer movement.
>>544245853Fate is in a very arkward position.It was made as the exposition route (something Nasu himself admits). Exposition that´s now useless for the audience that has already been exposed to Zero, UBW, HF and FGO. It could be said that Fate (the franchise) has "outgrown" the need for Fate (the route).The only reasons I could see them ever doing anything with it are:1.- To bank on Saberfags. Obviously.2.- To reintroduce F/SN to zoomers. The UBW show and the HF movies are now 11 and 5 years old respectively, which is an eternity nowadays that move on from trends faster than ever. Not to mention FGO, while still making bank, doesn´t have the online cultural dominance it once had. So most anime fans today dont know anything about F/SN, which means revival from scratch could be convenient.
>>544244652The original premise (that FSN told) was>Kiritsugu/Saber and Kirei/Gilgamesh fight amidst a burning hellhole>Gilgamesh "wins" his battle with Saber (?) while Kiritsugu shoots Kirei in the heart>Kiritsugu forces Saber to destroy the Grail>Grail mud gets dumped on Gil, incarnating him>Grail mud infects Kirei and Kiritsugu, reviving the former for 10 years only and cursing the latter to a slow death>Kiritsugu spares Kirei in some form and Saber's goneZero itself already changed some stuff (Gil and Saber didn't even meet at the end because both were busy with Iskandar and Lancelot respectively) but the anime went a bit further by changing the scenery of the Master duel entirely
>>544204181What´s with asian cosplayers and eyebags.
>>544246345The opposite for me though. Since I am not a TMfag, every time I think of Zelretch, I think of Ptolemy instead. Though I do agree that he does look like Zelretch but a lot more hair.
>>544247442>1.- To bank on Saberfags. Obviously.Nasu wanted to add more Saber vs Rider to the UBW anime, but it was rejected by Miura to keep it faithful to the VN
The only interesting thing about the Fate route is naked crucified llya, and they would 100% censor that so what´s the fucking point.
>>544247707>>544247851Amusingly UBW manga adds some Shinji/Illya scenes from Fate route >Shinji asking Shirou to team up with him>Illya talking to Shirou about their parents
>>544243720Zeltrech suppossedly favored the Tohsaka family over the Einzberns and the Makiri because at least they weren´t "fundamentally evil", which is why he only shared knowledge about the Jewel Sword with them. So my guess Zeltrech was a somewhat constant presence for the Tohsaka so maybe that´s why they fared better.
It's still a good adaption of Fate route, just rushedThey added some extra stuff to make it standalone>Rin vs Shirou from UBW>Rider trying to rush Ryuudou temple while Saber is fighting Assassin on the steps>showing the Archer vs Berserker fight>Illya revealing that Caster is Medea and summoned Fake Assassin>Shirou and Rin ambushing Kuzuki>Kuzuki and Caster's story>two episode filler arc where Caster abducts Sakura to try and use her as a grail that makes no sense>Lancer vs GilgameshThe parts where DEEN added scenes from other routes were complete dead air in the original Fate route. Shit like Assassin being off-screened and Caster's Master never being revealed was a cheap as fuck way of skimping on the battle royale premise just to save them for UBW in the VN. They should have just included the flashback scene from FHA where Gilgamesh kills them and chases Caster as part of the Fate route in the first place.Funnily enough the UBW anime prologue (episode 00 to episode 02) is more faithful and longer than the DEEN UBW movie.
Speaking of adaptations, how hard were you Soifacing when this began playing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMYfyO8DKik
>>544248643>DEENNasu had some anime original storyline cooked up for DEEN>Shielder was a genderbent Galahad (or a human channeling Galahad's spirit?) nicknamed Tachie, with a silent pacifistic yet no-nonsense personality>her old master was named Earnest Gravehill, who had a Shiki-esque personality>Shielder has a grudge against Saber, and an unfounded one against Shirou for surviving the Fuyuki disaster>Sakura's past was retconned by having Zouken die in the 4th war, and Shinji is the real Matou heir and Rider's real master>Shinji asks Shirou to protect Sakura for him, but then Caster makes an agreement with Shinji to have Sakura stay with Shirou so she can become Saber's master>Sakura joins Saber and Rin as Shirou's ally, not knowing she's under Caster's control>various aspects from different routes are included, such as Saber vs Berserker and Kuzuki being revealed as Caster's master>Ilya is suspicious of Sakura for being a Matou after Berserker is defeated and she joins Shirou, saying it doesn't matter if she never received training in magic as long as she has magical circuits>while they're discussing how to deal with Caster, Sakura asks to talk with Saber in private, then gets controlled into using Rule Breaker on Saber>Shielder is on Caster's side>Saber vs Shielder, Shirou vs Caster>Shirou defeats Caster, but it was a fake, and the real one goes after Rin>BONDAGE SAKURA (Nasu's explanation for why he came up with it is that Caster likes dressing little girls in frilly dresses and girls with big breasts in villainess-esque outfits)>Rin saves Sakura from becoming Caster's sacrifice, but then Caster attacks her>Archer appears and saves her like he does in UBW, having survived the Berserker fight>Archer defeats Caster like Shirou defeats Saber in Sparks Liner High>Saber vs Shielder gets interrupted by Gilgamesh appearing and killing Shielder anti-climactically>rest of the story follows the Fate routeIt was scrapped for just Fate route
>>544248643DEEN also wanted to adapt UBW from 2005>The idea of creating an animated film based on the Unlimited Blade Works story arc of the Fate/stay night visual novel was first suggested to producer Mitsutoshi Ogura of Geneon Entertainment in 2005. At the time, he was organizing the production of the anime series for the same game.[3] Ogura felt that Unlimited Blade Works and Fate – the latter used as the basis for the plot of the series – were the most interesting story arcs in the visual novel.[3] Director Yūji Yamaguchi from Studio Deen had similar opinions, and noted that Unlimited Blade Works had many elements in common with shonen manga, with a large number of bright scenes.[4] He stated that he felt that the plot and dramatic components of the story arc could be conveyed well in cinematic format.[5] As a result, the film-making project was approved immediately after the work on the 2006 TV series was completed, and producer Norimitsu Urasaki joined the projectAfter Zero released, Aniplex also wanted UBW.>当初はFateルートをアニメ化する予定だったが、スタッフ内では、どのルートにするか意見が割れていた(全ルート派「奈須・武内」、UBW派「アニプレックス岩上P」、HF派「キャラクターデザイン須藤、三浦監督」)。>At first when the Ufotable Fate/stay night anime was planned, there were different ideas of what to do. Nasu and Takeuchi wanted all routes, Iwakami from Aniplex wanted UBW while Miura and Sudo wanted HF.>Kondo: I kept saying that if we're going to do Fate/stay night's Unlimited Blade Works scenario, we need to draw Shirou cooly, and that's the show's success hinged on Shirou becoming a main character. Miura went so far to say that we had to make it his coming-of-age story.
>>544249643DEEN included references to Zero and Hollow
Genuinely think the dead internet theory is no longer a theory and /alter/ is just bots reposting the same stuff from the archive.
>>544249965I don't think it's bots but yeah, it's just old shit
>>544249932Rin tells us that she discovered who's Lancer's master. She tells us that she found Bazett's mansion, with a lot of blood and a left arm without command spells.
Was FGO outlined and planned out like FSN or written as they go? How would FGO have turned out if it were a complete VN?
>>544250347FGO part 1 was pretty much planned out while for part 2 they had a much rougher outline
>>544250347Stay Night wasn't even planned out. Nasu came up with HF after writing Fate/UBW >That's right, when I finished writing the Saber and Rin route all in one go, part of me thought the game wouldn't be settled unless I flipped it over. As the theme of Fate/stay night, if we assume the Saber route to be posing a question, the Rin route is the answer and the Sakura route is a practical application. In the beginning there were plans for an Illya route, but if we were to add it, the game would have wound up being incredibly huge. So we had this plan to release the Saber route and Rin route as "Fate/stay night", and the Illya route and Sakura route as "Fate/other night". But when we thought of the 8800 yen price, we decided we should include the Sakura route after all, so in the end, we decided to combine the Illya route and Sakura route into one route."
The lineup for Zero is weird>A legendary sword-wielding king who is a woman somehow>A legendary demigod king from one of the oldest civilizations in human history>Some Irish nobody>One of the greatest, if not the greatest monarch and undefeated war commander in history>Some mass child rapist and murderer>Some woman who is one of many who took the Hassan name>Some jackass who slept with a king's wife and is partly responsible for his own kingdom's downfallThat's like having a Grail War where the combatants are Yamato Takeru, Krishna, Conall Cernach, Genghis Khan, John Gacy, a random Hassan and a grown-up Paris.
>>544248643>showing the Archer vs Berserker fightKinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTY1wy54OBY
>>544250464Part 2 was probably in the works while Part 1 waz still ongoing in 2016.
>>544250747>Irish nobodyProto lancelot*>Some mass child rapist and murdererFair point but still an important figure, definitely not a nobody>Some woman who is one of many who took the Hassan name>Some jackass who slept with a king's wife and is partly responsible for his own kingdom's downfallOkay this is bait
>>544250729>Nobody: >Nasu: You know what Stay Night needs? Worms!
>>544250982He literally said he's watching FZ for the first time. He's obviously a secondary. Probably never even read the VN.
>>544248643>>544250810That's the 2000's anime for you, where they inserted more action slop and rock track riff ear-vomit than any other decade to add more substance to their anime. That's how we got slop like Naruto, Sonic X, Transformers Armada, Gundam Seed, Shakugan no Shana and this one.
>>544250850Part 2 was definitely in the works during part 1 but they very clearly winged lots of it, from rewriting lb6 a year before it's released, to Koyanskaya's identity, to the existence of ordeal call it's pretty obvious
>>544251221Kenji Kawai is GOAT. Are you trolling?
>>544251189That's just how it is with VNs of the era. Higurashi, Muv Luv, Nitro Plus etc, they all got to throw in random edgelord stuff.
>>544250747>Some Irish nobody>Some mass child rapist and murdererThese were accidents>Some woman who is one of many who took the Hassan namePlot device and fits Kirei's initial role as a passive participant until he grew balls.
>>544251329HF and Sakura got a negative reaction at first was because Nasu wrote the first two routes to be extra shallow for a new audience of casuals, then ended up going back to his roots for HF and placing it in the same game instead of saving it for Fate/Another Night like originally planned, causing a situation where the new fans were shocked by HF and had a kneejerk response to it for being so different to the two other routes.Even Nasu mentions how the negative reaction came from people who couldn't accept stories that weren't "royal road"You can tell that the negative reaction to HF and Sakura really hurt Nasu and made Type Moon lose much of the soul that HF and earlier works had in favor of inorganic, shameless otaku pandering.
>>544250347I believe Nasu (or some other TM higher up) said FGO was only intended to last like two years at most but it did exceptionally well so here we are.
>>544251659>Plot device and fits Kirei's initial role as a passive participant until he grew balls.He wasn't passive. He almost killed Irisviel and Maiya. He didn't know about Avalon. He was supposed to dispose of Kariya, but healed him instead, starting his betrayal.
>Prisma Illya is the longest running Fate workWhat's the verdict bros?
>>544249239Ah yes. Good old Proto-Eggplant
>>544249239>while they're discussing how to deal with Caster, Sakura asks to talk with Saber in private, then gets controlled into using Rule Breaker on Saber>Shielder is on Caster's side>Saber vs Shielder, Shirou vs CasterWait, how does that work? Wouldn't Saber already be on Shielder and Casters side, if she got RULE BREAKAH'd, or did Sakura fail?
>>544229768Saber lures Herk away and since he's berserk he follows her. Rin distracts Illya by dueling her with gems. Shirou stabs Illya in the back with Rule Breaker and Herk gets unsummoned because Berserkers are mana hogs. No need for Emiya to kill Herk multiple times which made no sense either.
>>544251758HF somehow still makes Saberfags seethe in 2025. The other I saw them having a melty on xitter over someone saying Fate is the weakest route (mind you, he didnt even say it was bad, he only said the other two were better, he was very clear about it) and they inmeditaly went to attack him on the basis of HF being his favorite route.
>>544251758bot reply
>>544252072If I make a chapter a year, I would have one of the longest running manga with only about 40 chapters.
>>544249239>>544252074she cute, Mash Alter when.
>>544252260>Shirou stabs Illya in the back with Rule BreakerBut he never even saw it by that point, yet
>>544252271>The other I saw them having a melty on xitter over someone saying Fate is the weakest routeLink?
>>544252534Why even give the link when that's the fact?
>>544252534These two are the posts that set them off (check the quote tweets)https://x.com/weebl123/status/1981740076859023479https://x.com/Artano618/status/1981749461933023651
>>544252308And yet would still have more stuff going on than Golgo 13.
>>544252381Just add a scene where he sees Medea holding it. Problem solved.
>>544252676>It’s only exposition heavy towards the beginning. The later half or so has a lot of character writing (that a lot of people unfortunately miss)Truth. Fate route had the best finale
>>544252725Kek, I am the second guy. That chizu poster really went feral for no reason.
>>544252534>Fate is the weakest routeFact
>>544250747>a random HassanHassan of the Hound-Slaying Thunder.
>>544253037>Shirou summoning Saber>Saber vs Rider on the rooftops>that Excalibur reveal>Archer killing Berserker 6 times>Shirou pulling Caliburn out of his ass>8th Servant reveal by killing Caster>that entire church basement scene where Shirou proves such big dick that even Saber kneels at his determination and changes her mindset>Saber vs Gilgamesh being the peak Servant fight to date>"Are you watching, King Arthur...? The continuation of that dream---?>that beautiful parallel between Saber and Shirou where both want to save the other but are too stubborn to save themselves from ruining themselvesYou got filtered
Yeah I'm thinking wormbros won.
>>544253647You forgot to include that threesome sceneYou're projecting
Post your genuine criticisms of Stay Night
>>544254172The sex scenes are bad.
>>544252342When the other abandoned demi servant experiments merge into a ghost amalgam, Jack style. Remember, Mash said in the OC prologue that she wanted to take responsibility for the experiments that led to her birth.
>>544254172Sakura wasn't a virgin
Holy...
>>544254172Fate route is boring to sit through. Though I like sex scenes in that route more than others, and are the only entertaining things about it.HF can be genuinely and massively depressing to get through, which might undercut the happy ending that it would eventually reach to.
>>544254172Already did >>544230474Also, I dont like how much time Nasu spends explaining shit thats either never going to be important, could be explained with fewer words, or will get outright retconned.
>>544254539kys
>>544254226>Generic Bluesky justice warrior comment
>Stray Servant [Others]A heroine candidate that vanished without a trace during the plotting stage.She was conceived of as an "abandoned puppy" type heroine, who killed her Master and went on a rampage.As a Servant of the shield, she was going to be a rival to Saber, the Servant of the sword, but…Just like Gilgamesh, she would have been a Servant that had remained behind after the previous Grail War.Unfortunately, though, she had to be cut for the sake of keeping things manageable for the player.After all, around this point, the plot itself was starting to stray. Not only Rider, but even Caster was a potential heroine candidate. It was terrifyingly chaotic.Hmm? Fuji-nee? I don't know what you're talking about, Fuji-nee never had a main route even during the plotting stage.>4Gamer: So it really is a shield, then. Did you design her, Takeuchi-san?>Takeuchi: Yes. But that shield girl's design existed before this project began.>Nasu: It never came to be, but when Studio DEEN made their "stay night" anime, it was originally planned to have an original story. This heroine was formally made back then. We felt it was a waste to keep her locked away like that, and she fit right into the story of "FGO", so we decided to make her the main heroine this time around.>4Gamer: So, is her true identity to be revealed at a later date?>Takeuchi: It's too early (laugh). Trying to figure out a heroic spirit's true name-- their identity, is a big part of the enjoyment of "Fate".>Nasu: In "FGO's" case, the servant's identity becomes revealed once players get their hands on them. So I'd be happy if all the players would do their best to avoid spoilers.
>>544254694We don't sign our posts here.
>>544254172Rin's tits were too small
>>544254172Half of the vn is boring dogshit and Shirou is a nigger
>>544254172In heaven's feel, Archer despite being the very same person in all 3 routes had way too much sympathy for Shirou. This guy kept rambling on how much he hated the little retard actually becomes an integral part in saving him. It's extremely contradictory and he did this out of his own free will btw.
>>544254701>We felt it was a waste to keep her locked away like that, and she fit right into the story of "FGO", so we decided to make her the main heroine this time around.Funny how many scrapped FSN concepts made it into FGO>Rejected Routes>In the beginning, the plan was for Fate/stay night to have four different routes, one for each heroine.>It would start off by letting the player arbitrarily choose between playing as either Shirou or Rin. Then around the middle of the story they would finally meet, and after that you would branch off into one of the four routes for the last half of the game. Yeah, I don’t really understand how it was going to work either.>Anyway, getting back to the rejected routes, it goes without saying that the Illya route tops the list.>Besides that, there was also the “Rider route where you fight against Rin and Saber,” and the “Caster route where Caster gets turned into a loli and becomes your partner.”>While all traces of the Caster route were completely erased, the development where you teamed up with Rider was actually folded into part of the final story.>If the Illya route had made it into the game, the diversion point probably would have been on the ninth day of the Sakura route. Instead of choosing between being a superhero and choosing Sakura, there would be a third choice where you could choose Illya.>But unfortunately, as it stands that choice doesn’t exist.
>>544254940>This guy kept rambling on how much he hated the little retard actuallyOnly in UBW. He was sympathetic in Fate and HF
>>544253647UBW has>More believable and understandable combat>Saber vs Berserker>Saber vs Assassin>Caster and Kuzuki are more active>Caster kidnaps Taiga and gets control over Saber>Berserker vs Gil then Illya's death>Culmination and proper resolution of fights and rivalries>Lancer vs Archer>Shirou vs Archer>Shirou vs Gil final battle>Archer's reveal>Emotional farewell between Archer and Rin>Happy ending for everyoneHF has>Lots of horror and dark, unsettling imagery>Revelations and truth about the Holy Grail War>Rain scene and romance between Shirou and Sakura>True Assassin>Saber Alter vs Berserker>Sakura killing Shinji and becoming Dark Sakura>Shirou's Archer arm>Sparks Liner High, Mind of Steel and Femme Fatale bad endings>Shirou and Rider vs Saber Alter>Rin and then Shirou save Sakura>Shirou vs Kirei final fistfight>Illya's Dress of Heaven and sacrifice>Happy ending for Shirou and Sakura and well-earned after all the hell they went throughYour point?
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>>544254940Archer is a Counter Guardian. The damn fetus demon was a bigger concern to him at the moment than any personal beef.
>>544255127>He was sympatheticOnly in HF. He was barely a character and more of a generic rival in Fate
>>544254628Damn, Guda, what big hands you have
>>544255273>AIshitfkys
>>544255236>Culmination and proper resolution of fights and rivalriesFate route already had this
>>544255425lol he malding again
>>544255462Fate has the awful tendency to off-screen characters and fights.
>>544254940>>544255289Why didn't Archer use NLBW on Berserker?
>>544254940Archer saw that Shirou dropped his ideals for wormpussy, and was content
>>544254628lmao coping again
>>544254940>>544255565UBW is shounen HF is the seinen adult work
>>544255784
>>544255846>Needing someone else to finish the job so that he can pick up the scraps
>>544256041Gil would NEVER
What do we know about Archer's backstory?
>>544256064...lend aid to anyone unless they're Hakuno(n) or Enkidu
>>544256142Reminder that Gil will properly use Ea for you at bond 3
>>544256142>>544256292>self-insert slopStay Night is king
>>544256132He comes from the doomed and forbidden timeline, known as the Taiga route
Did Archer know about avenger and the great grail?
>>544256132Shirou grew up, went to the middle east, prevented Chernobyl 2.0 in exchange for becoming a guardian, got executed by some people in power who didn't like him, since he helped all sides and never communicated his goals. Shinji might have backstabbed him, resulting in the above, if going by Extra.
>>544256465>taiga scoringThat's a lostbelt
>>544256542Definetly knew about the grail. Probably didn't know about Avenger in detail, but knew similiar grail abominations. Even in FGO we see counter guardians like Okita Alter being send to deal with them.
>muh fsn>muh fgoMake way for Nasu's FF7 remake. Nasu's magnum opus.
>>544256132All Nasu has said is that he comes from neither of the endings shown in the game, but Fate is the one that comes closer (I honestly feel like he only says that because otherwise there is no way to explain why he doesn´t have Avalon)
>>544256565Yeah, the one Detroiit Emiya comes from
If Ilya did kill Rin and Shirou in the prologue, how was she planning on taking out Caster and Kirei/Gilgamesh?
Why didn't Archer just use his bow on Gilgamesh?There's no way he would have been able to block it
>>544257139Caster would probably be some prolonged warfare/siege shit. No one knew about Gilgamesh, so no one had any plans for him.
Heaven's Feel started the serialization on Kadokawa's Young Ace magazine in May 02, 2015https://mangataro.org/read/fate-stay-night-heavens-feel/ch107-524015Just reached the H-scene
>>544257139The less time she has to work with, the worse position Caster is in. Gil was an unknown, so Illya's "plan" for him wouldn't effect her choices anyway.
Every time I read about Servants that barely have any relation to each other somehow knowing each other, I can't help but think the Throne of Heroes is less of a "anachronistic record storing the feats and details of humanity's greatest" and more like a temp agency where people are just forced to sit at and given contract employment every now and then and they all just kind of make small talk or browse their smartphones while waiting for their next assignment.
>>544257139Fate/unlimited codesHis final opponent is Gilgamesh, Illya was surprised to see another servant to exist. Berserker knew Gilgamesh to be the most evil and the most powerful enemy, he can tell from his eyes that he seeks to kill Illya. He can tell that Gilgamesh isn't a normal enemy and he has to prove his worth as a hero to surpass Gilgamesh. Berserker reacted to Gilgamesh murderous intent and fights him. When the battle is over, his body is etched with countless wounds and it is hard to tell if it's his own blood or the enemy's. Illya touches Berserker and praises for him to be strong, her voice reached to his heart and Berserker knew that this is the end. A gentle warmth and peace consoles his bestial heart. He feels relief, a feeling of a hero has not enjoyed for a very long time. Illya thanks Berserker and says her farewell to him, she used all her Command Spells to order Berserker to commit suicide by crushing his own heart. As he dies, he sees Illya wearing the Dress of Heaven and he laments as his consciousness fades "So beautiful".
The only magnum opus Nasu has made is him being friends with Higashide. And Extra CCC.
>>544259263>And Extra CCC.What made it so special?
>>544259010>Illya thanks Berserker and says her farewell to him, she used all her Command Spells to order Berserker to commit suicide by crushing his own heart. As he dies, he sees Illya wearing the Dress of Heaven and he laments as his consciousness fades "So beautifulSo, no one got the grail? Ilya should stop functioning, briefly after going cup mode
>>544258926They have cooking classes there
>>544259336The characters. They are just better. The plot is leagues better than Extra and just better than FSN. It was just extremely enjoyable to read. And all the new characters. And the "revision" of someone like Gilgamesh. Karna? Based. Hans? Based. Gil? Based. Tamamo? Based. Nero? Better than Extra somehow. Kiara? Sex. Liz? Love. Shinji? I kneel so much I knees broke. Coom content is just a bonus.