why is this nu-mapligga making new threads hours before the previous one dies?

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posting in spooky bread ooooOOO
doin my spookyly boring 3k dailies on everything
I wonder how they're gonna implement the daily into weekly, ideally they keep it the same for reg, frag once, erda on every char, and if they're gonna keep frags untradeable in heroic they should give them the frags per char
msea weekly is per account which is the worst because you can't even double dip on challenge worlds
so ideally its per world at the very least

how much is the msea weekly

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>>544230312
3x sol erda and 90 frags from msea weekly
12*7 = 84 frags, 600 * 7 = 4.2 sol erda, current daily values given over a week

>>544228129
The Heroes of Mapleworld and Aran's friend Shade.

>>544230679
that's pretty good, i don't actually do that shit every day on mules

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>>544231186
yeah except in msea its only do-able on 1 character per week so all ur other characters get nothing(?) not even erda I think?
yeah I'm only doing 3k dailies on my libbed ctene mules I don't bother on my 260 mules rn although I did grab my drk and lara janus during night troupe extra erda
I got nothing else at unique so I've been throwing my weekly hard cubes at the dark knights gear to get it all unique 2l, final pact is fun to me, prob have some hand-me-down ren gear eventually, its got this reaper's pendant I picked up from a whale for dirt cheap, too bad its kinda worthless

This qol stuff feels off
are they making a huge change to the game soon or something? They're making everything so simplified. I don't hate it, it'll be good to get my friends back into it, but it still feels like a precursor to big change.

you know, something I didn't think to look at, does maple classic still require you to press buttons to pick items up? Or did they finally let you auto-pick like worlds and M and N?

probably gonna need a pet

>>544235080
Nemi namedropped bringing back drop games at the con

mp to meso at 280 shit is crazy

i'm rolling fp wizard in classic world wbu niggas

>>544238259
It's hard to decide with the changes they are making

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warriors with the accuracy changes shown so far do seem like a no brainer tbdesu

>>544238173
It's going to fucking EXPLODE when classic drops, I sure hope people are stockpiling.

wanna play shad but i need to see third job before i lock it in so i'm not really thinking about classic too hard rn

I think depending on how many character slots I get I'll probably make a priest (Duh), sin, and maybe a paladin.

reg market where you exchange meso for maple points is very enticing until you realize that meso is pretty much worthless and you need far too much, so only already established whales can really get the full benefit BUT
what if, classic also has some form of mp conversion, I would play that shit to no end

>>544244729
this post is so repoopy brained, i bet whoever wrote it has the ugliest characters using free nx

>>544244729
I mean we know classic is on official client so unless they're doing something fucky wucky your MP will convert, it will not matter because those same people are already ahead and you're doomed, so you should just give up now :)

But yes it would be the smart move to have auction house, and a meso market. Enticing as the thought of getting to jew users out of NX and forcing them to sit in the FM and get d/c hacked (which are more plentiful than ever btw) it would only make people mad and less likely to engage in trading on the scale they want.

if you play cw2 you are sheeple

why is the localization team weird
why is it kay ling and not calling like everywhere else

>>544246189
because it's koreans localizing it how they think americans will say it.
or are we just not gonna mention how the CMs call moxuan "mocks wahn"

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because calling sounds fucking stupid

>>544246189
way better than SEA's Carling

>>544247831
carl ing la, la la maple good la

>>544232654
Nothing actually changes as harder content releases, older content will stagnate. Ctene 8 years old, and Seren will be turning 5 in the winter.
Its like imaging fighting hard magnus for 8 years for end game equips. That will be pitchie and arcanes soon. Mid game will be early game

>>544248317
no but shit certainly changed when they added flames, that's more what I'm talking about.

you aren't supposed to have new players stuck on the early mid game for a variable amount of time ranging from 6 months to several years for factors mostly outside their control and just making arcane river content irrelevant is also bad so the smart thing to do is just making it more consistent to get out
they're gonna make xlucid drop dreamy belt at 1/3 odds and give you a blow job after you clear so just wait

we dont have new players stuck on the early mid game for a variable amount of time ranging from 6 months to several years the monsters dont stop spawning you can find them outside of town and they drop raw progression materials including sol erda energy and sol erda fragments and mesos

>>544248954
I mean that was the point behind item burning, these new QOL systems feel more like they ARE moving to make all the earlier shit irrelephant. Everything is being made waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier, and most people already never touch absolab as is.

it doesn't make lomein luwill and ctene irrelevant so it's fine. you still do them you end up doing the same things you would anyway here you just actually get the thing at the end eventually instead of maybe never.

>>544249890
Sure the bosses remain relevant but how about the entirety of scrapyard and world tree? what about all of AR that they're making useless with this patch?
It just seems strange to basically turn the game into a gigantic boss rush every week, they d on't even pretend that the rest of the game matters anymore.

>>544238259
Most likely warrior, but haven't decided between Hero or DrK yet. Closed testing might change thoughts on this, but most likely going with that plan.

how many people do you think were actually making abso and not getting it from a box in large 2025. or actually farming droplets and not just buying them in limina, or not just hoping they get a box drop and ignoring the store entirely. they have the data they probably know the answer it's not a lot i bet that's why people wanted the ability to trade boxes they got to mules which is what happens everywhere else but because of reboot they needed a viable equivalent

Okay, so, I made it back from maplecon about 45 minutes ago.

In total, it was a disaster. On the plus side, I literally got pulled aside by the CMs to take pictures and got handed merch privately. That was cool, #juststreamerthings.
The venue was shit, awful location, no security standing outside, homeless started harrassing people in the lines around lunch (there were still people in line 3 hours in, and some people supposedly up until the classic panel started)
There were several hundred platinum ticketholders and like 100 regular attendees that I saw, they way oversold platinum. claim is that the minimum order for the vinyls they pressed was why but idk.
I got to play the classic demo like 4 or 5 times (which was necessary since the timer was only enough to do one run of kpq, no hpq was available). The new area was cool, the mobs were very 'modern' in terms of design choice and a little loud/overdesigned for my tastes, it just feels weird to see these mobs designed for 800x600 screens that are all chunky and flat compared to these hyper-shaded way higher res designs. I don't know how to explain it I'm not an art guy, but it really stood out. Smart on their part to put them in the new area so it's separated at least. You got to it through ellinia maps. There was one story quest you could do but it was just some AI generated thing about the monsters in the forest being harmful to the citizens, most generic shit ever, presumably placeholder.

The arcade was stupid, one of the punch machines was down half the day, the reaction tester machine never had anyone staffing it, and the photographer only worked 10 minutes of every hour.

Food trucks were way overpriced, they were charging markups even from what was on their menus, something like 30% tax and fees.
Bakery was okay but also very overpriced for what seemed like storebought cake pops with some decorations.
The panels were nice but there were annoying smelly people whining about merch, loudly, throughout.

>>544250757
The actual contents of the con were literally just some powerpoints. There was no real need to have the people there. The best thing was the monster designing thing but most people weren't even in the venue by that point and those that were, were sitting at the merch lines.

I didn't even get to do the tote bag decoration or gacha machines, the lines for those were maxed out from the minute I entered to when I left.
The merch I wanted to buy (neon signs and lotus tshirt and korean fan) were sold out before I even got in, and my giftbag from the CMs had one of the black mage busts and other older merch.
The way they handled it was stupid as shit, it used a QR code, and they gave platinum holders a password to use to get in, but the site wasn't designed to handle like 10 people trying to access it I guess and it shit itself, so they brought it back up and just posted a handwritten note with a new code, which then got told to everyone standing outside in the lines, and people were making orders from out there. Huuuuge fuckup on their part.
I tried the vinyl at my hotel and honestly it was pretty bad, skips really frequently. The pins I got in my giftbag were scuffed to shit and worn down. The t-shirts I got were all low quality screenprint and will start to flake after one wash (the tshirt quality also feels pretty bad, it's just a generic polyblend with tags removed, you can see the stitching where they were)

Nemi a cute in person, I got to shake her hand. It was soft.
inkwell is fat

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bwos tfw wanna go back and sell steel ore for 10k each

>>544252031
>OliveOil
how did she do it

they better bring auction house to classic maple i aint got time standing in fm trying to sell shit and spend hours looking through mushy huts

>>544252031
>paying high
>"offer
>you don't offer his delusional price
>*trade cancelled*
>paying high
Everytime, but it's always fun to see these old screenshots with the @ spam that catched on similar to runescape.
>>544252214
I think there might be a possibility of easier trading due to understanding most people don't have time to sit in FM. Bit of a complicated issue for bringing back classic experience yet targetting nostalgic millenials who probably don't want to spend 3 hours in FM after working and getting nothing else done.

>>544252419
AH was literally only kept out of GMS the extra like fucking 6 years it was because they wanted to milk whales as much as they could for shops, before the MVP benefits were added.

There's no benefit to only direct trading. NO ONE likes that shit, and in today's day and age they will make websites to automate it, like every game that tries to force it.
Even GMS had it, with that one website by the maple sim creator, owl something or other after the item, he just had like 3 bots scan the FM and it reported the channel and portal they were in on the website every 2 minutes. I don't know anyone who fucking stood around the FM from red and on, besides the bot farms offloading their eboss loot.

>>544252589
I do agree that the convenience of auction house sort of trading is what people are used to in mmos at this point. Direct trading does create the issue of being very slow, chances of being scammed or sold much higher than average price very high and selling anything without undercutting noticeably which will happen in auction house for those who needed to sell fast as they want mesos and do something else instead of trying to squeeze max profits.
You are also right about the 3rd party websites becoming a thing just like any game without auction house sort of trading as most don't enjoy trying to find any sort of trading from the time needing to do so unless willing to pay high and sell low. Real benefits of auction house and 3rd party websites just creates the easier process and being able to understand and see average prices and what sells for what ammount is something most appreciate instead of the headache that is direct trading.

I'm still very interested about classic and how are they going to roll it out as remarking it as "remake" which gave me similar feels of old school runescape does sound enticing as pure classic experience is something that has a lot of massive issues which most people do not want back.

>>544252419
that dude is asking for what i assume a perfect stat LVL 50 cape
12/16 would be 12 w.def and 16 m.def lmao hes literally min-maxing taking less than ~5 damage less per hit back in 2006

>>544252031
this is really cool until you realize that literally every person in the picture should be grinding instead of bullshitting at level 40-60

>>544254559
Continuing with direct trading the issue also comes up just like any other direct trade game or mmo. You get the headache of "offer" system. Everyone will start to ignore setting up prices as they want to maximize profits or buying as low as possible for gear and items. It makes sense wanting to spend as little and earn as much as possible, but it is hard to believe anyone enjoys the process of:
"offer"
"50k sound okay?"
"trade cancelled"

Because people don't want to even continue the trade that offer quite literally means the talking of price which just gets thrown out the window as if you are supposed to know the price and match the mind of the buyer or seller and agree that the buyer/seller must be the one who gets screwed over.

The scenario you brought up makes this a bit funnier as it's such a meaningless thing to try and get as if it's going to make a huge difference or be worth the potential hours of trying to find the stupid person you can take advantage of.
I personally do want auction house or 3rd party website and not so ideal which is likely being trading discord as nobody simply said wants to get screwed and rather leave item up for sale so they can play the game and trade when you find buyer/seller.
>>544255287
I'd believe it's the effect of most old mmos being populated by kids who just didn't know much or were blissfully ignorant to the negative sides of these things. Also having more time in general and not having to deal with the not so ideal folk who got internet access and being stuck trying to deal with these as an adult is another concern of mine when it comes to classic. Absolutely will happen in a f2p game, but as long as the game is fun for me I'll try to bite through the negative sides.

>>544250757
>most generic shit ever, presumably placeholder
somehow.... I don't believe this will be the case...

>>544238259
I was always a Cleric or Assassin. I’m leaning towards a Spearman, Bandit or maybe a Fighter though.

>>544257849
Honestly a lot of sidequests in mmos just in general aren't too exciting and there are definitely "filler" quests that are simple and rather boring. My hopes is that they change quest exp rate and reward ratio making it still something you'd want to pick up, even if it's not that exciting in terms of lore/story. Always welcome to have interesting questlines, but expecting every sidequest to be lore heavy and interesting is a bit of a stretch.
Also I do believe they are mostly fine-tuning at this point and the closed testing is also more of a stress test/feedback/last check on balance and potential QoL changes. I believe the vague and badly worded "We could release now, however not so fast maplers" early 2026 might just be PR talk that they don't want to overlap with the big winter patch in current maple and want to target another release date. Such as aiming for late April due to anniversary of the game which would be rather big to release the classic when the game started in the first place.
>>544258120
I'll be going warrior and leaning towards DrK even if it's a bit of a classic pick due to how it used to be. Balance-wise I'd hope to see other classes being made interesting options and so far from the changes seen it does seem they are trying to do this. Instead of how having the usual assasin, cleric and eventually DrK.

>>544258120
I was thinking Cleric until I saw the massive nerfs (or at least what seemed like massive nerfs) to them
probably going to pick hunter, with a cleric mule / drk mule / hermit mule depending on which one is more viable in the future

>>544260549
Honestly as much as nerfs are annoying to see and always have the loudest response, they are needed when balance in games is always going to be hard to find the perfect spot. I don't necessarily understand how would anyone think they weren't going to adjust some of the most played and strongest classes in the game at that point and just ignore the issue that "buffing weaker classes" doesn't necessarily fix the issue and you bring another balance problem.
Seeing them add more single target damage for mages makes me think they understand nobody really wants a mage in their party if they don't contribute at damage at bosses at all.

Cleric in my mind should steer towards the support identity and not have heal spam training at undead enemies be absolutely insane while keeping the buffs to the other skills they introduced with the changes. Hopefully they adjust more with closed testing to see how people play, what classes get picked the most and based on feedback try to find more balance.
While I do hope they don't listen too hard on the usual feedback when it comes to nerfs that just release as it was even if it was clearly overtuned and made some classes pretty much mandatory and picked for parties as others were left with no interest and nobody really wanted to consider the other options/paths much at all.
On top of the "adjust weak to strong" which creates the balance issue of add mobbing to all classes that match each other and single target so they don't get out damaged by a big margin on top of the most desirable buffs needing competition and eventually 3rd and 4th job bringing the massive problem of like mage ultimate spam without cooldown or heavy increase in mana. Same with single target damage on classes build around it just making others feel useless and be the buff slave of these players.

>nooooo why are they nerfing overpowered classes

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5 day event week kinda sucks
i want to click checkin daily for all events and not have sunday and monday off, i dont need it, give me more free shit

what massive nerf
unless i missed something, they only nerfed heal's healing rate
which is fine because classic won't be 1:1 of old maple, it is probably going to be easier to get stronger compared to back then
so clerics having a full hp elixir with every click so early in the game is going to destroy balance for the little bossing classic is going to have
also i don't remember shit about mob damage back then, but invincible getting changed from 30% weapon damage to 30% touch damage should be a massive buff for grinding (undead heal/shinning ray spamming rejoice), and you get 35 matt which is also a massive buff
holy arrow changes are pretty eh, much weaker initially, but more convenient mobbing for when you aren't grinding undeads with heal
we still don't know what changes are going to happen for all 3rd jobs, but if tweaks remains as is, other jobs are going to be viable but priest will remain the queen

>>544279226
There are some big changes and while some nerfs and buffs seem big it's hard to say just how it will apply into the game. They very well might have changed base hp/exp/dmg of monsters on top of messing with the critical rate/damage system as every class is or atleast from videos capable of critting now. Yes, even clerics can crit with heal.
The warrior accuracy is very welcome and sword mastery giving even more accuracy on top of fighter getting +35att rage is another big consider to go that path instead of having spearman with hyper body being too tempting as the other two before these changes were lackluster in comparison.

I think the closed test will bring up more information how this all actually plays out and what really happened to HP washing and just how all the classes are doing mobbing/bossing-wise.
I do honestly think some of these changes are justified especially if they were to buff some buffs/passives, but leaving the old skill damage and how they worked. It tells a lot when a ton of people already planned to roll cleric since having the knowledge it's going to be smooth sailing with heal spam and having that adjusted making some already rethink other possibilities is a welcome change in my opinion. Same with the adjustments to assassin and bandit now seeming quite a good option aswell.

I really do hope the balance is going to be atleast somewhat okay, but also steer away from the exact copy of classic where it just ends up rehashing the exact same meta and situation where everyone plays the same couple of classes and only out of fun do some pick the others or cheaper gear. It's good to stay to some classic aspects and not change everything, but skills are a situation they very much had to fix and adjust.

>>544279226
The main nerf is MP Eater having a 5 second cooldown. You used to heal with your damage spell, and hit 6 mobs with a 40% chance to steal mana, resulting in clerics grinding without spending meso on potions. Look at Artale launch to see how fucked this gets with inflation (and infinite channels). Now both clerics and I/L have to buy MP pots.

>>544291697
Clerics probably also have to buy hp pots until they are around lvl 80 if they want to be able to grind at a decent pace
the healing at 100% is barely anything; spam healing at 1/3rd the damage and rate v.s. holy arrow... heal looks like it wouldn't be worth using at all until like lvl 80 when you have much more magic attack

classic haters won
its fucking over

>the next maple story update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsWX4bkwUXU

a-archerbros, why does none of the classic talk mention us in any way?

>>544297481
From what I've seen archer and crossbowman were nothing that stood out too much in terms of changes. No more bow whacking is a big one for QoL and crossbowman did get 20% chance to ignore enemy weapon def which could make grinding easier with bigger damage spikes mixed in.
I think most just focused on the big changes and the usual popular class picks. It does seem they are pushing the other classes to be more viable and have to see if they change and balance more from the closed testing feedback.

So it's gonna be:
>nov
all the qol and ren and burning
>dec
ascent (likely kms classes only) and flop or die again
>jan
tfa
>feb
balance patch, remaster, epic dungeon, classic cbt
>mar
flopren collab and maybe blood moon forest
>apr
anni event and classic official release

seems pretty reasonable

cock and ball torture is going to be april thoughbeit

>>544302961
>april
>classic official release
lmao official release will be like this time next year, you're high.

idk
inkwell does things pretty late but no way he meant q2 2026 as "early 2026"

would be dumb to go from closed beta straight to official release
you still need open beta for preliminary server stress testing

>>544303154
Go check how long the original game was in beta for until they released it to the public

the april prophecy will be fulfilled

Inkwell clearly meant the beta when he said Classic was releasing early this year, he never meant full launch

>>544302961
I think there is a possibility the "early 2026" statement was more of a marketing push as they don't want to overlap the winter stuff with too much classic release related things. If they do closed testing in february there is enough time to even put a small open test between that and aim for the iconic anniversary during late april.
It would make a lot of sense from a marketing point of view aswell to target that release timing to pump the nostalgia as much as possible.

*early next year

saw people being mad about the maplecon thing so came to check out the thread, I just saw the ONLY GUY ON THE PLANET who hit level 300 didn't even go? What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, lmao

cbt will be april whenever cw2 ends, open beta/release will be october probably if not 2026

I wanna know how warrior builds are going to shake out in classic. As it is right now, there aren't enough points in 1st job to max Slash Blast, Power Strike, Max HP Increase, Precision Strikes. It seems like Max HP Increase won't be mandatory to max out before doing anything else? In that case, maybe we'll end up pushing it off until late 2nd job when we inevitably skip Final Attack again?

>>544304286
I know like 2 people on my class that did in hyperion alone breh what you babbling about
most people 290+ just kinda park the bus because it doesn't matter too much rn if you go all the way

>>544304374
I do not think they would push it that far considering nostalgia is entirely based on faster paced movement as it can't hold the momentum for a longer period of testing phase to release. While Nexon is well they can do whatever and they do tend to deliver in a rather dissapointing way, I still see a chance with April.
I would say there is a chance that the game is actually mostly done already and closed testing would be finetuning balance/qol/stress testing and in general player feedback. Open testing if there even would be one, wouldn't need to be as long as they would treat it more of a bigger server test for stability and to continue the hype.

If the closed testing would hit around february the timeline of like 2-3 months would be enough if they have the game pretty much baked and ready to release with the best timing for profits in mind. I wouldn't be suprised if they did go summer or even past, but honestly the anniversary around late april would be extremely good for them.

I know the whole "we could release it right now" is just stunt but no way it's gonna take them a whole half a year after cbt to release
this isn't a new game or anything, they're even using the same engine and client and resources are already all here

>>544306156
they could have released it then and there. For exactly the reasons you said. The only thing they're actually doing with all this time is making NEW content, and also rebalancing classes. Everything else is existing assets maps monsters quests UI, etc etc etc it's ALL already ingame.

>>544305037
plainly and simply delusional

>>544306980
It's all guessing and estimation really. I very much accept all possibilities and the April launch would probably be the most ideal release for players. However it is also as you mentioned very much a possibility they just push it to summer or even early fall.
It can sound rather delusional due to how fast it would be for a full release, but I do believe there is also some benefits if they would push it for April all things considered with overlapping current maple events etc. original release in april, spring slot in general is more free compared to summer/winter and since I personally believe the game is very much in a complete state outside of refining and tuning it is possible for them to do so.

All in all it's just speculation and cope n hope as most would enjoy playing as soon as possible.

I don't see how anyone could possibly think we're not getting Classic by May of this year. Like, I get not believing in April, especially if the closed beta is in February. But he game looks fairly complete at this point and it they're announcing a closed beta for March 31st at the latest (unless "early 2026" doesn't mean Q1, which is a statement dreamed up by the utterly deranged) they clearly only have adjustments that looking at player data can help with left at that point. And this isn't 2005, they're not localizing an entire game with early 2000's technology by stapling together KMS and JMS shit in the middle of that, there's no way it will hit the 8 month Beta period of the original game. Like even >>544304374 didn't believe it was going to release in 2027, he unconsciously mistyped 2026.

>cbt around feb when the event has already gone past its peak hype
>release at april for the anniversary
this sounds like the most rational outcome

any earlier is a no since classic would only cannibalize upon the winter update as well as making current maplers too busy
any later doesn't make sense since the game's practically finished and it will only kill the hype

>>544298372
didn't the critrate / crit damage get heavily decreased?
hunter's arrow bomb also got decreased in damage, though it is definitely worth not having bow-wack anymore

>>544307831
len's hype isn't ending until april
and her hype is far more important to this game's revenue than classic

>>544308095
https://old.reddit.com/r/MSClassicWorld/comments/1ofxlgx/classic_world_demo_fire_poison_mage_gameplay/nlcv6i6/
I'm just piecing information I've found as my interest in classic went up. I'm not exactly sure what they are doing with crit rate and crit damage, but they might have redone something about it. As from the videos I've saw both warriors and mages critting, such as cleric critting with a heal.

This part in specific makes me think the crit stuff has been rebalanced or remade:

Critical Throw

OLD: Level 30: 50% success rate, critical damage 200%
NEW: Level 30: 15% success rate, critical damage 35% (Note: Likey a formatting change; This would show as 135%. Earrings now have Crit Damage, Gloves have Crit Rate. Some other items (like staves) have crit stats too)

There are some nerfs/buffs that seem a bit odd, but these could be adjusted and changed with the testing feedback and pre-launch final adjustments.
I very much agree with the bow whacking being a QoL change that is really nice. That was extremely annoying and just tedious.

welp guess i'm rollin sniper

>>544308794
bro ren is NOTHING compared to classic
taiwan had 270k concurrent players and since taiwan only has like 30m population I think it's a generous estimate that gms classic will get about 1m concurrent
and let's say the concurrent number captures about 10% of total playerbase then the number of people playing gms classic will be around 10m at launch
let's say that those people spend, on average, $10 due to pets and all, then it's a whopping $100m on the opening week ONLY
yeah im thinking classic winned bigly and ren losted hugly

>>544310248
you're fucking high if you think a game like maple that averages 15k players is gonna suddenly shoot up to anything above 100k ABSOLUTE total max. More likely is that it gets to 25-35k.

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Also missed this from the video. It seems they are not introducing the original 1AP per reset scrolls? Excluding HP/MP points entirely would make HP washing fixed which seems very good if they revamped HP stats and gains from other sources.
>>544309632
I find the 20% chance to ignore enemy weapon defense rather interesting on crossbowman. Especially in mobbing in general as every hit and enemy would individually roll this making it potentially a rather big passive damage boost.

I don't even feel like trying classic anymore t b h, unless the rewards are legit juicy
They killed Cleric's comfy leveling, now they have to put 2x more effort like all other jobs

>>544310483
I just always thought strafe looked cooler on crossbows and always wanted to level a crossbowman but never had the gumption to suffer.

>>544308950
>Earrings now have Crit Damage, Gloves have Crit Rate.
That sounds neat. Maybe the devs could get around the whole HP washing issue by making armor pieces give significant amounts of extra HP?

>riceshops and faglords tears
yeah inkwell did an amazing job normalizing those
praise inkwell

>>544310970
they just increased the amount of HP you get to circumvent it instead, it's why hyper body is nerfed.

Is it true kms players are seething about gms getting pitch pity?
Any inven users can go and see what the kms cucks are saying?

Can you classic fags go make your own fucking threads and reddits etc?

Classic wow and osms immediately separated from the main games and made their own stuff when their games got announced, why the fuck are classic maplers still leeching in our threads 6 months later??

Fuck off and make your own stuff already.

>>544311325
literally anyone can go see it
maple.inven.co.kr

no, nobody cares.

>>544311585
Make me

You don't make your own thread because you know it would just slide right off page 10 into oblivion, just look at this thread it's just the same 2 faggots arguing over the most irrelevant shit instead of just playing the game when it comes out.

>>544311325
they're jealous about gms gms having the no hyper stat change cost but nothing much other than that
it's mostly just "huh, i guess that's possible when reboot's the main"
but who knows, they could be absolutely fuming in the inside but trying not to show it whatsoever because one of the core inven culture is having a superiority complex (seething) over reboot on everything

>>544312379
I like watching you suffer and be angry about nothing, it makes me feel better when you feel worse

>>544310961
At this point I'd honestly say play what you actually want to play. Third job is likely not coming on release and no idea if your 3rd job and eventually 4th job balance would have your class get shafted or adjusted in a way you don't like. It's a possibility you just have to accept and take that into consideration if you feel some other class is a much safer pick and you can still have fun of course.
>>544310970
I'm still not entirely sure what they are doing with the HP as information is lackluster currently. Considering they specifically brought up HP washing and actually spotting that AP reset this time rewatching makes me hopeful about it. What an utterly cursed thing to have in a game.

Introducing Crit DMG and Crit Rate gear sounds cool and could be interesting to see how it plays out into all of the new things.

>>544302961
they won't release incomplete ascent skills even if it means delaying them for everyone

>>544313425
>angry about nothing
You and your faggot friend should just dm each other since it's just you two jerking each other off to shitty classic theories for the past 8 hours

>>544313425
Reminder you still have another year of waiting till maple classic come out.

That's only 525,600 minutes, or 8760 hours, or 31,536,000 seconds till you get to play, enjoy the wait faggot.

>>544313737
>>544314109
You're so angry and you deserve to be this angry, I like seeing awful people angry and never happy

>>544313551
traditionally tms got 6th stuff first then came to gms so unless tms has ascent as their first update then there's a good chance overseas class will get their ascent delayed till tfa
also I doubt Sia's is finished, there's a chance her ascent is just shafted entirely until she gets it in maple m in like two years

>>544314484
is it really that hard to make add some particle effects to a jpeg and copy paste the numbers

>>544311325
they might be seething about many qols, but pitched pity is not one of them
kms' market have no problems with spare shortage, and their endgame players are good at bossing compared to the average gms endgamer

>>544314779
idk that's what I think too but ask nexon, it takes them half a year to generate 45ish of them

>>544314151
I succeeded in combo breaking your little classic circlejerk so I'm happy.

Reminder to make your own classic thread and make your own classic maplestory reddit already because it just looks pathetic needing to piggy back off the real games space to be able to have a conversation, and dont forget to kys

>>544314923
What kind of qol stuff they complaining about?

are frags tradable?
are we getting pno revamp?
do we still have to grind for f@m slots on each character?
will mystical cards become more available?

yes, totally
maybe
yes
no

question
so, ren is getting its own specific burning event, right? does that mean you got two 260 characters, ren and whatever else you decide to burn?

len is not getitng her own burning just an event that gives you free stuff for leveling her to 260

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yea there's a burn given at the start of the event that can be used on ren, its not exclusive to ren, and then there's a 2nd 260 burn from a check-in given near the end of the patch
>pic attached of said check-in

>>544311325
they jelly but they can't openly say they're jelly, there was a lot of chatter about it though

u get 3 hypers total
1 from start u pick what u want
1 exclusive to ren
1 more mid way through event
idk how many item burnings u get tho

im glad theres no
>whomst dou ie burne
comms this time because the only answer is len

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nemi cute

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zer is no exclusive bnuuy burn, she is not some dude ridin a jaguar she is riding (you)

>>544319104
>1 from start u pick what u want
>1 exclusive to ren
aren't these the same item or am i blind
i can't see where the 3 hbs are coming from

Actually she is riding her snake girlfriend, the low IQ bunny is y/u/ri.

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yeah but like the snakes inside her or something ya know so its like two chicks at once bwo
duuuuude

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How come Maplestory still does so well?

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blieb it or nyot mushroom game good

>>544320958
Maplestory has a ranking for spending over $1500 a month.
There are no less than 100 people on it
it's not really surprising.

>>544320958
its the opposite
everything else flopped and sharted and losted

>>544319104
>1 exclusive to ren
you mean wh the chad class getting remastered mid-cw, ren is panther food

wh already flopded hard in kms lol

maplestory good actually if you can believe ot

If maplestory so good why isn't there maplestory 2

I'm not burning len because I'm a hipster

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personally im still waiting for personal computer two and web two, this whole web one thing has been proven to be nothing more than a fad and a complete waste of time 2bedesu
ur nyot a hispter ur just a fag, for me its following the masses and just being better than them

>>544322312
>remake a class with no damage
>nerf the damage
>flops
whoa

>>544323291
maplestory was so good it killed maplestory 2

>night lord
>no bonuses while playing at night

>night walker
>no bonuses from terrorizing women

>>544325406
maplestory 2 was better thoughbeit

i still do moss bulers because im a daily story gamer

>>544326259
so much better that it even died in Korea
its biggest sin was to lewd the maples

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You can pretty much make chibis in Mabi mobile so just pretend that is Maple 2 reborn

maplestory can't die because no one is stupid enough to try to make another real maplestory to compete with it. any other game would have turned the lights off after 2014-2018

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whatd you guys pick they all look kinda ass

>>544320958
>maplestory m is above ba
jesus christ

>>544327910
koreans want brutally p2w games with whale exclusive content and ms2 didn't milk them hard enough

how is maple m monetized? you don't really buy anything in ba besides a pretty cheap monthly package so it not being super high isn't surprising

>>544320958
>The Finals
Damn, koreans like fps games that much?

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>>544334761
>koreans
read the fucking text, this is the revenue ranking for korea

>>544334869
Damn, europeans and americans like mabinogi mobile that much?

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>>544335001
>only mmo where you can play as actual loli/shota
yes

>>544334869
>ba at 5
sisters..... i thought koreans really liked us....

>use VIP booster
>an espesia portal appears in 10 seconds
what causes this?

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>>544335317
BA is a japan focused IP, despite being made in korea the main server that gets updates first is the japanese server.

>>544335279
koreans who bothered playing blue protocol are saying bp is better lol

>>544335279
shill me on mabinogi mobile

>>544335547
>blue archive
>down Y/Y
collab never EVER

>>544335547
Yeah BA didn't even have korean voice acting until relatively recently, it's made for nips

>>544335907
wym
now there's a bigger reason for changseop to go down and beat the shit outta ba director to force a one way collab

>>544336047
>-35%
it's actually over
EoS soon

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>>544335814
Never trust korean/japanese opinions on games.
I tried BP and it was total ass. And sure maybe Mabi mobile is also ass but at least it looks comfy and it lets you make actually cute characters, compared to the soulless slop that is BP

>>544336724
giwtwm

>>544336319
ba game performance is probably deceptive cause it's the only game here that's actually pushing lots of official merch

mabi
>instanced dungeons
>p2w
>build and play variety
bpsr
>open world
>timegating

aside from these both share the same problems of game essentially just being dps checks and not a whole lot to do

>>544337232
you really think ba merch is more popular than maple merch outside of japan?

>>544337804
easily, they make hundreds of BA figures and plushies. they dropped a new set of them yesterday even. if you go to a con you see people with them everywhere

ba's brand value is insane

>>544337619
>>544335865
How much do we actually know about Mabinogi Mobile when it comes to gameplay, content and monetization etc?
English info about the game is basically non-existent.

what's the doro equivalent of ba?

>>544338661
>gameplay
bro why can't you do a simple youtube search in 2025
even if you can't understand the language surely you can still get a grasp of what the gameplay is like
>content
there's like 2 or 3 main raid and some smaller high level content iirc
game's like 7 months old though
>monetization
p2w, just not as bad as kms or loa (mainly since there's no incentive to spend that much due to lack of content)

uh bwos when do i start working on legion champions? im almost 8k legion

>>544339119
that thing isn't meant to be a forced content especially for newbies
either you are endgame and are at the point where investing into champs is a more efficient way of minmaxing or you've been playing for years with various alt mains that already were strong enough to do bosses before champs became a thing
don't waste resources on champs unless you just wanna

>>544338985
youtube videos don't mean shit cause people said BP had
>fun
combat too which was a complete fucking lie
>no content
I don't care so long as I can just hang out with my friends in a game that doesn't feel like a chinese asset flip.

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Quitting my job!
Divorcing my wife!
Putting my kids up for adoption to be the #1 Beast Tamer in GMS classic world!!!

>>544339448
i guess in terms of content mabinogi does have it more locked in on what it wants to do whereas bpsr isn't as sure in what it wants to be

if you like more "life" content then obviously that's mabinogi's whole thing although mobile isn't as fleshed out yet
and if you like the action rpg aspects then mabinogi's also the better option since it does have a better combat than bpsr and its whole gameplay loop is grinding for runes or emblems or whatever it was called that modifies or amplify your skills (some straight up changethe skill)

>>544340053
I'm cautiously optimistic about the game, my main worry is more whether nexon is going to fuck me over for being dutch

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baggots are afraid to learn this but our one and only maplestory director SHIN CHANG-SEOP is more famous than the entire ip of blue archive in korea

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This is true

how are clerics nerfed in classic?

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cleric lost the favor of their god and now are simply godless pagans waving a stick around its quite tragic, but their heal goes further or something so maybe its fine

>>544319773
is she really married to inkwell

it isn't fine
nexon killed the only comfy training job
classic is literally unplayable now if you aren't a nostalgia hipster

>>544345719
They have the same surname
There are over 50 million gooks
There are less than 1 million gooks with that surname
Coincidence? I think not

classic players when you tell them they might have to play classic and not press the win button on the overtuned god class

do u guys buy erda booster pass ??

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nyo the porn is free

yes i take every opportunity to pay for advantages in my favorite video game maplestory
hyperion

moderately investing in a hobby you spent 10+ years of your life on is le bad o algo

this but unironically

I also won't pay pokemon shit

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my ckal trio and i found a grindystone today

i told my gf that we can only have steak twice a month since i bought the sol frag booster pass

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wife

every game outside of maplestory feels like a waste of time
you play mario, beat it, then it's over. you have nothing to show for it.
with maplestory i always get stronger. numbers go up forever

i became a better person after 100% psychonauts 1 and 2 my irl stats went up

inkwell where are our gms exclusive balance patches
>hurricane skills go from 120ms to 100ms
>5th burst buffs that get triggered per attack but have inter cooldown have cd lowered
>no more skills stop working after some time of inactivity so everyone can afk farm like mo xuan

inkwell save my class please i beg you

>>544357350
i hate this mindset, but i also share it. like when friends and coworkers ask me why i don't play many of the newer single player games (And even some multiplayer games like battlefield) i usually just say "games aren't really my thing anymore" when in reality i'm such a fucking slut for maplestory due to the seamingly infinite progression it provides

hurricaners are fine

ren will come nerfed

ren will be bottom 1 dpm on release unless it's patched already but that's fine cause it's gonna make people bounce off leaving only the trve bvnnies to claim the earth and click ascent in a month

wait so what is exactly bad about ren?
or is there a video / discussion post that talks about it?

nothing

>>544333340
maplestory M has more actual gameplay to it, you still have to actually fight the bosses and shit, no autoplay for that.

>>544369528
ren is one of the best classes to release in the last 5~ years, in terms of damage and playability. She's streamlined and made easier to play, almost all of her main skills can be used at ANY point, jumping, moving, anything. There's not a single thing bad about her, that's why, along with the hyper burn on cw2, she's like fucking 30% of all 270+ characters in KMS now.

>>544370705
oh, my bad then. i read
>1 dpm on release unless it's patched
thought kms fucked up something again

ren is great is every way that really matters if you aren't just chasing meta they just released her pretty undertuned in terms of damage+being a hurricane class so she doesn't benefit much from as10. iirc it was like bottom 5 or something when it came out, it's pretty solid now though

worth mentioning that bottom 5 was tespia, they tuned her up for actual release and she obliterated every single ranking.

ah, fair enough
i just really want her for her link desu, but also planned on getting diamond on cw2, so i was a bit curious

it's gonna have the most 270+ cause they made an event where they just tell you to do that and makes it very easy
honestly it speaks more to every other new class that they couldn't do something like that lynn is about as easy as is it gets and essentially the undisputed god class and it's still like not top 10 for 270 on gms

>>544372161
because there aren't people playing new characters in GMS.

i mean there objectively are since all the people actually clearing do have a lynn with them anyway. over half of the hbaldrix clear parties had a lynn. the three new classes being broken isn't enough to just make people play them anyway if they aren't appealing to new players because they do some gay shit instead of just holding a button like most players want to do. you look at the most played classes and it's dominated by mouth breathers

>>544373248
I will say that my lynn exists solely because I already had a 210 BT and just raised her up higher. I don't know anyone who's made a lynn from scratch.

>>544373317
same...

Have they ever explained why the bosses are hard limited and they don't allow you to just run them again for no rewards?

>>544373317
same. in general though most people pick characters in this game for comfort not for power and ren is like the most comfortable thing of all time
>>544373574
because they already invented a mode where you can run bosses for no reward silly it's called practice mode

>>544373698
Practice mode (usable practice mode anyway) didn't exist until like 2 years ago though. I want to help the rest of my guild clear their shit, why do I have to make 6 fucking characters to do it instead of just being able to run the boss over and over? I just can't think of how it makes sense.

>>544373945
you know, i did miss when it was possible to join someone's party and just get the boss to ~5% hp and just leave without it counting as your kill too

>>544374672
You'd think they would want to push and prioritize that because it's a functional meso sink, you split the crystal valuation and don't even have to pay for some of those splits.

i should train but then i remember ive trained enough to drain all the event 3x away and even ate all 20 hours of legion meso buff last week and its like wow im gonna burn out

>>544381452
What works for me is to set a "day" every week where I go hard, and the rest I do my dailies or just don't log in. Event shit like the winter garbage is so worthless to me nowadays I don't even bother, I haven't logged in since dave the diver ended and I haven't seen anyone in my entire alliance gain anything significant in that period even with all their extras. I know my luck.

Know yours.

was that ai generated its not luck i just go out there and watch youtube and coomscroll twitter and replace janus ror 20 hours and at least the end im up some bils and sol erdas its not luck
if anything im whapping to not need luck because levels are fd and money is gear

>if anything im whapping to not need luck because levels are fd and money is gear
exactly this.
set your confidence level at 80% and then upgrade your gear when you get that confidence level achieved.
the only reason ever to not wap is if you already have all of your characters at max mesos, all their skills are finished, and are at the max level + 25 star (soon 30 star) for all your gear.