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i LOVE how wb can just randomly decide to not give you a mulligan because FUCK you
>>544246174My morning wood didn't go down when I saw this nerf, it only got bigger.FUCK CREST FUCK HAVEN
I quit because of them not nerfing haven last month, ha too late you idiots! I'm not coming back lol. Didn't they say they would only do balance changes in the inbetween months of expansions? Player count must have been really bad huh!
From Crest Haven to Chest Haven.
It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.
set 4 tier listTier 0 HavenAbyssTier 1SwordForestTier 2RuneTier 3DragonTier garbage dumpPortal
>>544246480>Didn't they say they would only do balance changes in the in between months of expansions?no they did not
I can't believe they nerfed my benis. My benis weenus.
Pathetic tiny benis users...
>Tier 2>RuneLmao
>>544246547fuck off then
>>544246773rude
https://x.com/shadowverse_jp/status/1982643423027859782/quotesThe JAPANESE fans are NOT happy they are blaming how late the nerf is and how the peopel have already left, some people even linking numbers showing how bad the game sid oing
Another day of waking up of Dragon is not being nerf! Good day, dragon bros. We are eating good.
How are we feeling about the new set, dirtbros?
>>544246904It doesn't matter how good the support we get is, what matters is whether or not the top dog of the meta counters us again.
>>544246904hoping lila gets new life in these two cards
>>544247054Whether it's Ward or Crest, dirt loses regardless.Just gotta hope something else deals with them.
>>544246904still don't have a great wincon, cog is too slow.
>>544246174ohhh yess.honestly haven deserves the nerf, but is really weird that they didnt nerf rune.
Portal next set:Artifact will still be shitPuppet will still be the most competitiveEgg can hit for 18 now at turn 10
>>544247410KMR still pulling some strings behind the scenes.
>>544246680I know you play haven
3 GP in row grouo B finals where i only win the first rouns and then lose twice in row lolGildaria sleeve? Group B 1-3Sham? B 1-3Now this one, B 1-3
Rune is OP
Golden Knight sucks
>>544247781I didn't even make it to finals last 2 GPs but I really don't care this meta sucks
ok, where are nerfs to mode, loot and runeniggers?also good to know that the nerfs to cards are so heavy handed they basically delete them
>>544247808Rune is super fucked when you realize literally the only reason why anyone brings roach is to try beat rune. No other deck has half the tournament playerbase trying to specifically counter it.
>they actually nerfed benison>they actually nerfed benison>they actually nerfed benison>they actually nerfed benisondoes cygames, dare I say, actually play their own game?holy fuck I actually have revitalized hope in the game
>>544247808>only dragon couldnt get a winits so over
>>544246680actually it's now 4pp instead of 2pp so it's bigger...
finished my grandmaster run with DOUBLE DEATHBRINGER
>KMR fired>events start to give decent rewards>Zeta gets added uncensored>cards start getting nerfedIM NOTICING
>>544247808>in the first tournament the 1st and 2nd are the ones countering rune.>in the second tournament everyone tried to counter rune with roach and that gave the win to the one countering roach.
>>544248184they only nerfed it because the playerbase dropped way too much for their liking
>>544248593Izudia the witch killer...
>>544248482Now if we get swimsuit set we know the nature is healing
>>544248593>izudia counters runethis general continues to amaze me every single day
>>544248721ok, he is a odd one
>>544248184The only thing that would make it better is if they made the burn damage work like Tenko.
[sad news] japenese players are not happy with cygames blatant favoritism
Dclimb will continue to dodge nerfs by losing tournaments despite being a menace on ladder. This will continue indefinitely until it rotates out.
>>544249283thanks teddy
>>544249283Anon don't bot translate we can all read here
>>544249283it's literally this thread lmao
Haven is the only class in WB that has ever gotten a nerf so far right?
>Shadowverse WB's first-ever nerf is here!!!!!! "Mad Grace" nerfed, community feedback heard.
Bro I said the same thing. Fuck the cost. That's not the problem. It helps, sure, but the fundamental issue that makes the card absurd with the card is not the cost.
>>544249597Liam/Puppet Cat had their stats lowered with a buffed play cost to compensate for it.
>>544249597they keep making cards specifically to be anti roach which is basically just never ending roach nerfs.
>>544249769So it's objectively a sidegrade then.
>>544249283witch is healthy because it hardcaps the meta to turn 10, so mister tanaka san can get out of the train in time.nexto!
sinciro being a 1pp 0/1 would also be a sidegrade
The nerf doesnt matter. Penis is still a broken piece of shit.
Imagine spending $80 for a ticket and you get Lu Woh'd.
>>544249973Why so disingenuous?
>>544250012god wammy is so cute
>>544250041Why are you so retarded? Liam and Puppet Cat got buffed.
>>544249767>there is more than one clueless shitter on this planetwhoa..
>>544250012fucking cat, you know what you are doing and you do it in purpose. you are not better than a furry pretending to be a dog!
>>544249767you're wrong though. what matters is they struggle to cast it while clearing your big threat
its uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5wV6to0o80
>>544250230Considering that got 43 likes, and I saw other posts in the last thread saying the same thing, then that's at least 46, assuming all the other posts I saw were the same guy.
>>544249945I actually agree with that, if I can't kill rune on 10 they kill me, that's fair, but>lol benis heal 10Is not. You use 10PP and a SEVO to do damage and they fucking heal it up for 2PP while dragging the game out, that's fucking bullshit, and the thing is even at 4PP it's still broken
>>544249769>>544249898they were both buffs, don't be stupid.
>>544250012So this is how collab leaders are gonna be in this game huh? We're not getting shop leaders in wb.
>>544250414> if I can't kill rune on 10 they kill me, that's fair.disgusting runeboyfriend, dont talk to me!
So... who beats loot now?
>>544250492>1st quoteWell yes, obviously. But of the whopping two sets of changes we've had so far, those are the only others that could he considered nerfed in any capacity.
>>544250648mirror
>>544250230
>>544250648I'm beating it to loot right now
>>544250648evo abyss will
>>544250648fishcraft
>>544250648midrange abyss?not really sure
>>544250714how
>>544250714evo abyss is a meme deck
>>544250648tempo forest
>>544250791it will heal all of the damage with bat spam>>544250802but it will win against loot
>>544250414I still remember reducing a Havenfag to 2 HP and he whipped out Benis + Gil + the spell.He healed for 15 while dealing 5 face damage to me in a turn, balans.
>>544250230whoa...
>>544246174history repeats itself
>people think benis for 4pp is playable at all and that crest will still see play when not only they nerfed it's heal but is getting 0 new cardsMindbroken
>>544251157>balancing around garbage playersyikes
>>5442511634pp benis is unplayable yesbut the deck can still see play considering that benis is not the core of the strategy
>>544251163>but is getting 0 new cardsNot a big deal when they already have what they want. Board wipes every single turn with 5 damage to health guaranteed and turbo healing is not gonna get powercrept by 1 (one) set my dude.
>>544251163Benis is playable but it's going to be something they only bring one of. It's an actual proper emergency heal now. Now just casually throwing it out because they are at 17 health and their crests are full but they still have some pp leftover.
now imagine if dclimb had a minimum cost of 4pp
If norman is already being played for 6pp heal 8, then nerfed benis with 4pp heal 10 is still going to be goodthey didn't hit the crests or the crest system themselves
Crestsisses are mind broken and screaming rune KWAB
This is your future dragonfags
>>544251767We know. The haven posters in this general are the worst by far and they've been obnoxious all fucking set. No wonder they are continuing to be so now.
>>544249283From what I've heard on streams the good players are more worried about who's going to stop Loot Sword.
>nice wilbert. will be a shame if he's taken
Are we done with card reveals?
>>544251767>If norman is already being played for 6pp heal 8, then nerfed benis with 4pp heal 10 is still going to be goodI'll take 2pp 5/5 body deal 2 damage to your leader
>>544251767The value for healing is 3PP heal 4 and 5PP heal 6, havenniggers crying about 4PP heal 10 is nonsense and having that at 2PP in the first place is utterly insane
>>544252047What's probably going to matter more in this scenario is the fact that you can remove wilbert without his last word popping. Because as far as you playing your own wilbert goes, it's probably not going to matter at all against crest haven. They remove more often than they breathe.
>Haven isn't even the strongest class >Nowhere near as oppressive as Satan Shift was>Nerfing the heal 10 card when everyone can just shit out 10+ dmg easilyI don't get it.
Maybe I'm just being a schizo but I feel like maybe the haven shitposters are not actually haven but just falseflaggers trying to make people hate haven.
>>544252247Crest Haven wins events, DClimb doesn't. That's literally all it comes down to.
>>544252301I had a haven main personally tell me he enjoys playing haven for the seethe and likes seeing people bitch about it in /svg/
>>544247808include the fact rune has a mid/low leaderboard class rating toorune is so overrated by shitters trying to downplay their actual OP class(haven)
>>544252832I mean considering the thematic of the craft and its identity, that does make sense. But I don't know some of the shitposts are just so obvious it feels like it's forced.
>>544252923Damn shitters don't know how to avoid 20dmg Kuon or Satan d-shift.
Im a truly honest player and I think they should nerf roach. It's not fair that it counters my honest class which I will not say what it is.
>>544253173actually shitters do not know how to play around kuon that's true so many times you see shitters do the incorrect play playing into kuon haven should almost never lose to kuon, you made a missplay if you do
>>544253275Sure lol
Will runetrannies continue to downplay their class for a 4th set in a row? Find out next week in /svg/!
>>544253458>classSpellboost
>>544252179It's pretty much this card but replaced the enhance with a steal
>>544253458I'm not sure to what point it's downplaying to just show real stats and data.
fediel dokofediel dokoFEDIERU DOKO
>dragon follower 2PP 2/2>fanfare:draw a 3PP spell cardWould this save dragon?
>>544253754here's the data >>544247808SVO : 2 crest 6 spellboostRAGE : 1 crest 3 spellboostSKO : 1 crest 2 spellboostSTO : 4 crest 2 spellboosttotal: 7 crest 13 spellboostthe number of spellboost is almost double crest number
>>544253540Woops. Wrong image
Need one knockup match in 21488
>>544246174>the card is revealed>everyone is mad>the card become playable>everyone is mad>the card is nerfed>everyone is madreally lives up to the name
How many losses in tournaments are caused by Benis for it to be nerfed before everything else?
>>544253951yes
>>544253986SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPP DON'T FUCKING OPOINT THIS OUT
>>544254114cygames probably cares more about not losing all their regular players than the pro tournaments.Benis is the sort of card that causes people to quit.
>>544253986Now also count the number of roaches that exist purely because of rune.
>>544254205Honestly it's the same shit with Norman healing 8 or spawning 2 golems if you are not aggro-ing hard enough
>>544254043Anyone?
>>544253986It's slightly more even if you take into account placements.Rune-39Crest-25And still, this is a spellboost problem. Don't nerf an off-meta archetype because they decided D-shit needed to return.
>>544254351Looks like you should kill yourself.
>>544254351on my way
>>544254205This isn't true. Cygames only ever caters to top end tournament players which is the real issue here. Haven wins tournaments, Rune doesn't. We all know that DClimb is fucking cancer but they don't hit it because Rune never takes events while Haven is constantly winning them.
>>544254294Norman not really, no. The whole norman conversation feels really forced.But satan od astaroth? Yeah that definitely causes people to quit too. I'd just make it so astaroth also breaks all your sevo crystals.
>>544254494Norman is the bridge that gets them to that point to either finish you with Satan or Kuon. Hell, you can even lose quicker if you are not primed to deal with those 2 Golems with barrier. I remember spectating Mode losing from that too
>>544254494*And also figure out a way to make it so you can't just cheese that by sevo'ing before you play astaroth.Cheesing out the negative of a card is stupid. Crest haven is fond of that.
>>544254624>sevo before astarothIf this was a problem then medusa would be the strongest card in the game.
>>544254494>But satan od astaroth? Yeah that definitely causes people to quit tooThat said this combo is rarer than just playing a 2pp card. Crest haven is at 5 crests almost naturally.
>>544246480>Didn't they say they would only do balance changes in the inbetween months of expansions?no, it actually>balance patch might or might not be made because fuck you>however, emergency nerf might or might not happen because fuck yoy>actually, the nerf might or might not be announced beforehand because fuck you
>>544254689No I meant like if astaroth broke your sevo crystals, people could just evo satan first and play astaroth after. But still in the same turn. So it would not solve the problem of playing astaroth + sevo ping for match.
>>544248184>does cygames, dare I say, actually play their own game?they do, as a runeniggers
>>544254465Oh yeah, what about this guy then? >>544253986
>>544254841>forgot d-climb existed againFuck. That. Card.Even if it didn't exist Juno could cause a similar effect, albeit one that gets blocked by a 7hp follower.
>benis has 4PP nowI don't really feel bad about it but it's just a 1-of now right?
>>544250414>You use 10PP and a SEVO to do damageyou meant 20-40PP and end the game?
>>544251157oh, they actually care about topaz shitter in ho-chan representatives
What if they add a clause to Astaroth like>you can only play this card as your first card played this turn
God you retards moaning about a super rare play on a mid tier deck that's like third as popular than crest
>>544255278A 'This is the only card you may play on a turn' would be better, otherwise you could demonic out a shikigami afterwards.
>>544255371>super rare playLol
>>544251767>runeniggers have convenient amnesia that benis need 5 crest to playby the same logic rune has 2pp choose summon 2 3pp stuff with upgrade, heal 8 or draw six WITHOUT any card loss
>>544254951Rune having the highest representation while having the lowest win rate of the top tiers is not exactly a good look.
what a stupid tweethttps://x.com/saikikker1125/status/1982050922588225757
Siete card better be his evil version
>>544255435That guy is baiting but he is right in that it is pretty rare. I've played my fair share of rune and it's not something I got often.You could deflect to this being a me issue, but you can go watch pro players streaming rune and they don't do it that often either.If we're drawing a parallel between od astaroth and benis as both being bullshit that loses players, benis would be worse by virtue of just being more common. It's a 2pp card you can just play. Crest haven is already building crests as its gameplan, it will be at 5 naturally.
>>544251854why is she fat
>>544255825pic for ants?
Benis would have been really good even if the heal was attached to the crest since Marwynn lets you extend it and Shining gives you enough healing to easily push yourself over 10.
>>544255748>you can go watch pro players streaming rune and they don't do it that often either.yeah, because aside from clocking the game at 10, rune can also shit out 16 spellboost with 0 (zero) spell while vomiting having 42/46 stats on the board just by playing on curve in T5-T8
>>544256261which deck can't kill from 10hp
>>544246174the obvious nerf should be raising the limit of your crest to 10
>>544256621tempo forest without evolves
should I craft 3 copies of the mad Benis to get it for free with the refunds?
>killed more player than benis and dclimb combined
>>544256621dragon>b-but muh genesisdragon
>>544256669>without evolves
>>544256676Yes if you dont have 3 benis then craft them. You will be able to vial any future benis you get.
>>544256698>not being able to accept you lostWhy? Kuon just had more points. Did you want KMR to personally give you the win regardless?
Remind me, can I still do the final stage of the prix after the upcoming daily reset?
>Haven nerfs>No Rune nerfs>Abyss getting massive next expansionKMR never left. Remember guysP E T C L A S SETCLASS
>>544256754If you want to be technical about it, triple dog is 9 damage without evolves so every class can do it.Odin and Dog is 10 with an evo
>>544250648everything? loot is trash
>>544256524I mean that's a different conversation. People saying astaroth is common are just wrong. It's pretty rare. Going away from that we can talk about rune as a whole and personally I think OD specifically is an issue. Kuon is fine. Norman is fine. I'm not sure if increasing OD's cost would be the way to go, the card is just fundamentally an issue.>>544256793>any future benis you get.Why would he be rolling her pack tho? I guess there's chest keys but that's a real off chance.
>>544256927don't care fuck havencraft
>>544250648Is loot even going to remain t1?
>>544257110Yes I know KMR I'll be sure to fire the intern that created benis and Marywnn for you.
>>544257214KMR was onto something. If haven was the pet class this game would have far less players in general.
>>544257214firing him is not enough i want that man dead
>>544250648lmao Loot isn't even T2 anymore.Just put Gil in your deck and heal. Sword out of SEVOs is about as harmless as a bug.Sword is going to be dogshit next expo unless Siete is does 20 damage somehow.
>>544256983i meant like an actual deck that's being playedif you run out a random ass benis, extend it a couple times and then you're at effective 10 max hp going into latter turns you're dead to everything, be it odin+rage, sincero+octrice, kuon+nothing etc
To be honest I'm fucking baffled that Loot Sword still performs well at high levels by results because every time I fight the deck, and even when I watch these pros piloting it, it looks like absolute dogshit to me and I have no fucking clue how they win.
>>544257205Swords future depends entirely on what Siete does. All of its cards have been good but not gamechanging
Portalbros how could we cope with the fact that this dogshit class will remain dogshit until eos?
>>544257601Portal is solid t2 that's not dogshit. It was also t0 in the first pack.
>>544257205No, all decks are getting stronger except sword and I doubt the second legendary is gonna be loot related. Sword is either getting a new playstyle that's really good or it's dropping to dragon tier
>>544257601just play jerry portal that way you can play portal while using cards from classes that actually get usable cards
>>544257658>It was also t0 in the first pack.D rank
>>544257098>People saying astaroth is common are just wrong. It's pretty rare.astaroth is 30-40% chance if you play satan dclimb. the problem is if you're winning, you don't need to draw astaroth to win, the rest of satan deck is already good enough. and if you're losing you have 30-40% chance to draw your get out of jail and win card instantly.
>>544257662Mode is barely changed. Slightly better. Slightly.
>>544257394>an actual deck**Odin+Dog then.Dirt currently has no way of doing 10 damage without a revived SEVO Lil and a glacial crash/neutral.I play this.If you mean common decks, then I think eggs just eke by with triple egg+axia SEVO+neutral
>>544257658Here we go again with the first pack yeah portal was good for one month now it gets to be shit forever because the whole expasion was 5pp cards you get to enjoy your bricked deck and also how every single portal card has dogshit stats and does nothing without evo>tier 2that would be dragoncraft and forestcraft portal is a tier lower because it's the worst class in the game
>>544257736We were all beginner rank in the first pack :)
>>544257662I don't know why this card gets rated so low by people. Like yeah, it's worse Odin, but it's 3 extra copies of Odin that can also be played as removal on 4.
>>544257479It is unironically a very difficult deck to build.A lot of the loot generation cards are dogshit on their own but you need them to fuel Sinciro. If you cut a few of them you end up with Sinciro rotting in your hand. If you put too much you get run over in the early game cause a lot of loot followers do nothing except Congregant.Whereas Haven, Abyss and Rune have their decks set in stone day 1, Sword has to constantly adjust their deck with the right ratios of loot cards, tentacles, if to add any Centaurs or not, should you run one tablet or three, is Amelia needed for draw or not.Sword wins games if opponents don't have the out to Zirconia on turn 5.
>>544257891>I don't know why this card gets rated so low by swordjeets downplaying everything
>>544257764It's getting 2PP 3/1 rush(not mode but way stronger than shits like bellringer) and 3PP 4/4 (no evo required) or 2/2 Valse, it'll have insane early game now, how does that not make mode stronger?
>>544257891It was good in SV1 It'll be good here too
>>544257891As much as I love Zeta and Beatrix, this card is average as hell. The enhance is just Legendary Alwida's Command lmao.
new dragon leggofentanniel4pp 4/4evo: select a 8pp or less follower in your hand and reduce its cost by half. It gains the effect "can't attack your opponent's leader".
>>544257917>you get run over in the early gamePlease. Early game sword is strong regardless. They can pop the guy that deals 3 damage repeatedly, they can use the sniper.
>>544257891its 6pp odin
>>544258060Just like metera
>>544258060how about you go fuck yourself too ramptard
>>544258043Wasn't Alwida's Command meta
>>544258060>4pp win the matchIf you hate haven players but not dragon players who are asking for this nonsense you are mentally ill
>>544257891Come on man that card is GARBAGE at 4, there's a way stronger 4PP removal in the game already, and paying 6PP for 3 damage storm, seriously?
>>544257891I rate it high because it's 2 rally in a card for t4 going first
>>544258070You need to play loot followers very early on. Past turn 5 outside of Congregant you will get run over. The 1/2 does nothing. The 2/1 does nothing if you need the boots to fuel Sinciro. Octrice does nothing without evolve. Midsword was strong because it's entire deck does at least has some sort of impact. Loot trades that for huge burst damage.
>>544258156I think it was in decks until ROB, but it got replaced pretty quickly. IIRC, sword's six drops back then were Otohime and Alwida's.
>>544258060>4pp garyu>5pp azurifritkill yourself dragonnigger
An entire thread of arguing over Rune and Haven and Sword just comes in and out-downplays both of them combined in half a dozen posts
>>544258207If haven is allowed to have 2pp win the match for a full set, why isn't dragon allowed to have 4pp win the match?
>>544257601skipping this Homo Fantasy set
>>544257891It's a sword card so it's not good enough unless it's a full board wipe that also does face damage.
>>544258356>or less
>>544258156For Standard and Darkness Evolved but SV2 card quality is much higher.
>>544257891>4PP 6/4But why?
>>544258396>4pp garyu>hochan on turn 5end yourself now dragonigger
>>544258060>Ho-chan at turn 5Fuck yeah!
>>544258230>paying 6PP for 3 damage storm, seriously?Not that different than paying 7pp for 4 damage storm on oguri cap. And both have removal attached.
>>544258373There's nothing to argue about for Rune.Spellboost is causing issues, like always, and the only way half the thread can think of dealing with it is by kicking dirt through the floor.>>544258458nyes...
>>544258375it only won against aggro subhumansif haven has 4 or 5 crestswhich means its lategame and aggro already lost
>>544258468Oguri cap can FUCK Wilbert in the ass, that's the only reason it's good. You know that 2 damage storm is worth 3PP right? Why do you think paying 3PP extra to get one more damage is worth it?
Would this bimbo even be good in SV2?
>>544258680nerf sibylfuck dragon
>>544258680Dragon would take any ramp card but I wouldn't play her over Merman on turn 5 if I'm spending an evo.
Can we stop using oguri cap as the default way to call odin?
Have all the cards been revealed now?
>>544258680Absolutely. You'd play much worse ramp than Sibyl and right now it isn't that uncommon to just evolve Liu Feng on 5 because you really need to hit that ramp.
>>544258791only after uma collab ended
>>544258898Liu Feng is an odd once since most of the time you want to spend the EP on other followers and wait for 7PP to get hers for free
>>544257891rush is always inherently good and zeta bea lets you pump up rally for no evo points like another anon saidyou should compare this to sword's other 4 drops. will you play it over zirconia or congregant of usurpation?
>>544246174>https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01K82REDRZSJ96GAAKXKTCV566They don't say why they nerfed it? Is it because people were killing themselves with it?
>>544259330midrange doesnt run congregant, loot doesnt run zirconia. zetabea work in both and give you an option on 4 if youre bricked
>>544259375Devs rarely explain their decision in buffs or nerfs
>>544250012Galleon love
>544259375least disingenuous havenigger post
>>544259330Unironically the Sword deck I'm really watching out for is Kagemitsu Sword that curve tops at 7 on Odin and runs Storm on half of their slots.
>>544259375Haven can go 50/50 with rune and that makes all the jap meta whore tier 0 (3 set In a row, btw) abuser upset and cry to daddy kmr ;(
>>544259484Shadowverse 1 devs did>We nerfed this 40% winrate haven card because d rank players complained about it
>haven suddenly solidifying itself as the disingenuous craft
>>544259570They are also the one who do this
>>544259585>suddenly
>>544259330Prim fuels two rally for one card but alone doesn't do much compared to two rush cards. The card is good value for 4 pp but the enhance just doesn't match the value of something like Congregant of Entwining which does way more for one pp less.
>>544259535This, Kagemitsu+2 boots can fuck people in the ass for 14 damage at 7PP, now that benis is 4PP hopefully there's less haven around, if people get careless not placing ward they're gonna get fucked.
>>544259330>will you play it over zirconia or congregant of usurpation?highly possiblecongregant is almost out of question for midrange unless you need the heal. also zeta bea "deal 3 damage" while leaving 3/2 bodies is pretty much do same job as congregant on t4 with fusionas for zirc, she is hard to use if you go first and with the set being tied to evo (and evo effect), I can see the possibility of sword wanting to save evo for siete or gran or something else (should be todat reveal later)
>>544259495KMR personally kissed every letter
Havenbros ... why do they persecute us so...
>>544259739Historically speaking haven have always been the most oppressed craft, this just convinced my suspicion that crest being tier 1 was a mistake by the devs
The only thing the benis nerf did is vindicate me for already running aether and the ward paladin chick who heals you after her stats change.I can't believe me being retard with shit deck building actually worked in my favor for once
>>544259872The most oppressed craft is forest who relies entirely on getting one decent deck every year and then getting no support until it rotates out and is replaced.
>>544259928I can see it.
>>544250648Only the decks that can run Gil.
>>544259872Haven is low on the petclass tier list. If Haven gets strong, they almost always nerf them some way or another. Sometimes, just like /svg/, the devs underestimate just how strong something like Crest Haven is. Especially when no one thought that Wilbert and Grimnir would work with it.Compared to Rune where you know the devs purposely made their craft strong with do everythings like Anne, Kuon, Norman and Dimension Climb and absolutely get away with it.
>>544259675the enhance removes anything and deals 3 to face, wtf are you talking about
>>544259995She isn't enough to stop loot
>>544259953Forest is one step above Haven on the petclass tier list.Here is list after 9 years of SV1 and the few months of SV2.>TopRune Shadow>High Dragon, Blood>MidPortal>LowSword Forest>BottomHaven
god the haven seethe today is so nice
>update
>>544256834>>544256698>fennie winning phase 1 by a landslide despite the mechanics kneecapping her team hard with 20 minute queue times to zwei/kuon's instant games.>zwei pulls ahead in phase 2>stop the COUNT>everything goes dark>well done Fennie. Well done. HOWEVER ONE GORILLION POINTS TO KUON!!!!
>>544258002Mode is getting better in that they started putting mode cards in other classes for mode to NTR.
>>544260382This is exactly what happened, and there is nothing wrong with that.
>>544260495If this makes more NTR fanart I'm all for it. It's my favorite thing about the game.
>cheretaseriously not looking forward to ward haven if it returns...
Please sword become meta so i can luwoh their ass
Eight (3 + 5) copies
>>544260764I want sword to become meta so I can use zeta
you cant touch benis only...runenegros run wb
Why is this so common?
>>544260573I'm sure that we won't need to wait long for art of Shamwow dominating the sword knight with the battle thong.
>>544261032It's peak female dresswear.
>>544261032The style is literally called mass-produced.
Soon she will save dragon
>>544261032if you're not attracted to jirai keis you need to turn in your man card.
>>544260573
>Sword is the most played class>Sword is the 2nd easiest class>Sword is the upcoming battlepass leader>Sword's only bad matchup got nerfedReally makes you think......
Sisters...
>>544259872Blood was in the gutter more times than haven ever was.
>>544261217As cool as Zooey is, I'd prefer Yatima to make an appearance. She wasn't even in ReLink or Versus.
/OURGUY/ HAS SPOKEN
>>544261221Isn't that the style when girls pretend to be crazy and annoying? Maybe I'm wrong
>>544261489>pretendbut yes
>>544261465If she were to show up it would be in portal.Maybe in twoish years if there's a second gbf set
>>544260920You can just use Zeta without sword being meta.
>>544261438And when blood wasn't in the proverbial ditch, it broke meta harder than haven ever could.
TOTALPUPPETDOMINANCE
>>544261545>You can just use ZetaAs fap material maybe.
>>544261438You don't get to post these when blood is the only craft that's been pushed so hard it becomes unironic tier 0 and literally killed shadoba 1
>>544261438Aggro blood was always strong from set 1. For you the 'gutter' is 51+% winrate.
>>544261550That's true.
>>544261483cygames slurper...our response...
>>544261483>king of the downplayers is seethingfucking based. god I love cygames.
>>544261221I'm not. 5/10 trend.Seeing 20 of them at once on the train downgrades it to 4/10 NPC shit
>>544261483>it's a good card because crest plays every game the same so healing for 20 is a big fun swing that they dont typically get
There's nothing more delicious than unskilled havencucks crying they actually have to worry about classes that cannot otk
>>544261745you are a homosexual.
>>544261565How did you avoid all the mode abyss?I swear puppet has a 20-80 matchup against it just like loot
>>544261626God I remember one of the first major tournaments where one guy showed up with Aggro Blood at the time that it wasn't considered untiered and just dismantled the competition, then Aggro Blood just became meta forever. I think it might have been the first RAGE event.
>just 2pp to 4pp change This is fucking nothing. Wake me up when they tied the 10 heal to crest so you need to have crest space to heal.
>>544261438Blood had some insane highs and insane lows. It had the first real tier 0 deck with Spawn and Sexy Vampire was a custom card made by reddit.But holy shit when it was in the dumpster bin it was completely unplayable. Sword went 4 straight expansions in SV1 of being the worst craft while Blood went 5.
>>544261905I faced 2 mode abyss thothey couldn't handle zwei evo so they crumbleddidn't even draw jerry or orchis for them
>>544261745>popular=badSo if landwhales are 1% of the female population you would rather fuck them instead of normal weight women?
Where the fuck is fediel?
TRVTH SVPERNOVA
It got nerfed because they're pushing for quicker games this set.It's as simple as that.
>>544261483>Downplay marwyn>Downplay 4pp heal 4 damage 4>Upplay HimankoWhy do people trust this fraud
>3 reveals scheduled for today>Parachan is showing off two cardsWe already have the Rune legends and golds though...
>>544261624Blood meta was the only times I rage quit the game to (multiple times), but it was also unplayable for like half of the 30 something sets we had.
I won! Totally unexpected, I was already happy making it to group A finals. None of the matches gave me any particular issues, except on my 2nd match where I faced Midrange Abyss. I got greedy and went enhanced Valse against an evolved Supplicant, and it was turn 6 on the dot so I couldn't finish it off with a blade. Even worse part, I also evolved him and her got cleared next turn by Gravy. Had to use Sinciro to clear the board, and another Sinciro to clear a Congregrant board next turn. I went into turn 8 without any SEvo points, thankfully, he had no Cerberus and could only heal to 6 with Gilnelise. I coined Albert and won the game.Honestly, I only won because he didn't have Cerberus. My Valse blunder should've costed me the game. But eh, I'll take the win.Thank you for reading my blogpost.
>>544261483>runeplayer's opinionPTOOEY
>>544262102An ugly landwhale is very much preferable to a mindless non-human who is incapable of thinking for themselves if we aren't talking about pumping and dumping.
>>544261624Blood being broken was definitely an accident. The reason the class got fucking deleted is that it was poorly designed from its inception and impossible to balance. They always moved quickly to nerf Blood and it usually just wasn't ever enough every time it exploded and entered tier.I think Rune is definitely a pet class and Haven is definitely the class they hate but things get murky for most other classes regardless of their regular placement on the tier lists. Like, in the same way that Blood was incredibly unhealthy when it was good, I really think Shadow was just allowed to be good like it was because the meta tended to be healthy if Shadow was the top dog. Class identity just meant that certain classes were much less volatile than others.
>>544262365Gratz Marie!
What do they mean by this?
>>544262182If you cant deal twenty damage to the opponent twice before they passively kill you with their 10 removals and 5 damage to your face every turn you just aren't good at the game
Where are they?
>>544262660t. light users stressed and couldn't handle the game
>>544256793>>544257098so should I bother or not with crafting this golden penis? It's a free card is it not? and will it be totally useless in the future?
>>544262586>sandy foxi refuse to believe these voice actors actually exist
>>544262586>Screenshot_20251027_171130_Samsung Internet.jpg
>>544262845It's a free card. You craft them and in 2 days you get the vials back. Then every time you randomly get one from a chest or an event you can turn the extra copies into even more vials.
>>544262797https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxoFX_ilk-8soon
>>544262992oh it's the jobbers
>>544262964What's the matter, anon? Can't afford a phone to play shadoba?
>>544262660Shiuld've played a real fucking deck then, haven has no problem dealing 100 face damage throughout the game and rune can OTK from 20 bypassing all the heal
>go into the main menu>crasha sign i guess it's enough shadoba for now
>>544263063nta, but why is the only comeback you fags think of is "you're poor"
>>544263236easy low quality bait
>>544263236Look, I'm not the one that brought my phone to the topic of discussion
>>544254209Why do you think people bring sb you retard? It's crest's counter
what item should I prioritize in the dungeon thingy? I don't think I can farm enough to get all the cosmetics, I already got vials, packs and gold, what's next? The apprentice Globes? or the shards? what's better?
>>544263534You can easily grind enough to get all of them. It takes like an hour just do the Sinciro stage.
>>544263534You can farm everythung by doing the last state and time your play for Zako
Reveals?
>>544262964>making fun of others for posting from a phone>in a phone game threadBwo...
>>544263729half an hour
leaks?
good, fuck haven and anyone who plays that craft
>>544263860I'm leaking right now >.<
>>544262586They mean Tikoh sexhttps://prd-game-a5-granbluefantasy.akamaized.net/assets_en/sound/voice/3040337000_s1_white1.mp3
>>544263886can I see?
How does Pascale interact with damaged followers?I assume she doubles current stats instead of maximum?
So only benis getting whacked while the whole rune problem package is not?
I'd be happy to see Rune nerfed too but I'm baffled at how many people are getting hung up on this shit when we weren't even expecting this surprise nerf that everyone fucking wanted in the first place.
>>544264673Benis made all the d rank rune abuser stressed please understand
>>544264513current i thinkseen the 10 stack condition used like twice since the card was released
how to fix runedimension faggotry only draws rune cards
Rune killing people on turn 10 is okay just like how roach killing people on turn 9(or turn 8 with coin) because at least these can get rushed down before turn 10, meanwhile haven has no weakness and haven mirror jerking eachother off in weekend tournament is the most obnoxious shit ever
>>544264924people keep suggesting this without realizing how abusable this is
>>544264924only makes it even more problematicjust nerf it by 2-3pp
>>544264809Because they are upset their cancer shit got nerfed so they are deflecting. Obviously.
>>544264924max refund at 5ppnorman needs 2 dirt per ability or dirt loses aura and/or can be attacked
>>544265016Rune can barely be rushed down because of how much defense and healing they have. Rushing down roach is easy since their healing is non existent and they dont have any kind of ward or big bodies. They just fall over and die to dragon playing multiple storm cards in a row.
>>544265016did runeniggers in your bracket stop playing the dirt cards or what
>its another episode of retards suggesting dirt nerfsanyways link to the reveal stream?
https://x.com/shadowverse_jp/status/1982749117282742305
>>544264901Wouldn't have saved me then.Added it the other day as a one-off and finally had the chance to use it,https://files.catbox.moe/dgpys3.webmI was hoping to tank the sinciro and octrice spell and then draw into literally any of my remaining 8 hand damage cards for finish.Though after rewatching it a couple times, If I'd played SevoNorman turn 7 with the goblin and saved A&G for a turn 8 pascale into albert I would have won .-.Learning experience I guess.
>>544264924*only draw cards with spellboost
https://youtu.be/MszGegpGkzQ
>>544265221Dork shipdragon is here!
>>544264924Might make them start adding stuff like this to the deck so that they can guarantee get kuon>dshift> kuon later though
>>544265167https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxoFX_ilk-8
Nice title
Why is no one suggesting nerfs for gilneliseShe provides some damn good healing too
>>544265528Because she barely holds this game together with how much out of hand damage there is.
>>544265528She's already 0/3. How would you nerf her?
>>544265494Hey, that is MY title!
yeah we should remove all healing and have these awesome>whichever retard attacks first winskind of games
SUFRAMARE MADE IT!MTLCard Effect:At the end of your turn, give all followers in your hand +X Spell Boost. X equals your total number of attacks this turn.[On Evolution] This follower gains "Can't attack followers or leaders."
>>544265346Zoyo!
>>544265703Vgghhhhhh....... SOVL.
that cant be right
>>544265703portal is just uniquely shit at dealing with itself
They literally have no idea how spellboost actually plays this fucking game
>>544265789Why would use that over the 2PP hag from launch?
Just posting the original cuz the weird ass translations are weird as fuck and we can all read anyway.
>>544265789>have wamdus at like 6>play this>wamdus is now 12Other use i guess is fast boosting william
first shadoba 2 craft to get nerfed award
>>544265950I mean they had to it was fucking killing the game.
>dirt 2:evolveIt's coming together.Owl might make the cut
>5pp put 2 dirt in your handI dont think they actually know anything about rune cards if this is the shit they are printing
evo dirt lets fucking go
Sword lego should have been grub's Monika instead of Zeta and Bea. We need the cow tits.
>>544265221Something about the way her boobs are drawn makes them look like a bad photoshop job.
>>5442659565pp 8/8
At the end of your turn, Spellboost all cards in your hand X times. X is this card's attack power. [When evolved] This card has the effect "Cannot attack followers or leaders."
>anon complaining about card he cant even read
>>544265918Thanks, somehow I assumed "turn three blaze destroyer" was a mistranslation.
>>544265789>1 pp spellboost 4how much longer until spellboost get 0 spell deck?
>>544266080Play the card and you essentially invoke one from your deck, AND it evolves.
>>544266063They both evolve. It needs to be good so Dirt can replace A&G.
>>544266063It's 10/10, it's the それとこれ again that filtered that one anon last time. Poor little dude.
>>5442660805PPFanfare : Put the same copy of this card in play. Perform Earthrite (2) - Then evolve both followers
>>544266140>they both evolveholy shit5pp 10/10
>>544266183blood already have 5pp 27/27
Unless they plan on gutting Anne and Kuon printing cards that do literally nothing but spellboost is retarded.
>>544266136It's not from your deck it just creates another one in the field.
i just heard the news.... is it really true..?
>rune gets 5PP 10/10That's literally A&G but no burn for a permanent secondary unit
>T1 Amu(1)>T2 Penelope(3)>T3 Owl(4)>T4 Edel+2PP Dirt Gen(3-4)>T5 Mirielle(1-3>T6 Cog
>>544266080okay dirt rune might be real
>>544266252'fraid so
I can finally cut AG from my deck
dirt needs better SSA payoff than just cog, but thats an insanely good card
>>544266301>no Juno or Remi RamiSovlless
>>544265918>>544265789Clearly you've just got to buff its attack in hand with Truth cards.
>>544266263>That's literally A&G but no burn for a permanent secondary unitI mean angrea also spellboosts 3 times and the new card needs 2 dirt stacks.
>>544266225>runeniggers comparing T5 move to T20 move when already clock the game at 10
>>544266301T5 should be 1-2 but it makes little difference.>>544266385Cog evolves for free on turn 6 and you can Sevo a penelope or something and transition into norman spam or Lil.Dirt is in this set.
>>544266235They're preparing a board flood spellboost deck for next set
Spellboost won't run the alchemy slut
>>544266415>2 dirt stackswoah, 1pp card that draw and an engage
WHERE THE FUCK IS HE
>>544266507>spellboost won't run dedicated dirt cardsThat's how it's supposed to be.
whens the pikachuman leek
>>544266385SSBAs are usually a trap not really worth planning around but Cog is interesting since she's not only untaxed unlike a lot of them, but she's also a 4 drop tempo play which means you can reliably keep her before mulligan and just decide whether to hold her or not after seeing a few draws
>>544266578Saving the best for last. Trust.
it's 2 evolve for skybound idiots. it's the equivalent to 3 spellboost by anne grea, and this card is "free"very strong card for dirt cag
Remember that /svg/ is always wrong when it comes to gut feelingDirt is NOT gonna be in the meta
How much time do i have left to finish current BP? i am like 700 exp away from lvl 50 but i just dont want to play this piece of shit game
>>544266736Less than 2 days
>>544266728I didn't say it was gonna be meta though, idiot
>>544266668Conserving evolutions is really nice for dirt too before considering ougi. Lilanthem very often wants to come out with normal evo instead of super evo but has to waste super after you burnt both for AG/Juno into Norman
>>544266389I'm sorry to say this, but Juno a shit in sv2.losing remi is sad though... I might fit her in as a one-off
>>544266575I've had matches where norman on 6 was fucked cuz of lack of dirt with edelweiss on my deck.Either way, unless you're playing actual dirt then at turn 5 you need to start spellboosting, that card doesn't help at all compared to angrea.
SSA forest into invoking sandalphon and playing it 3x will be the meta.
>>544265956She actually made it in? I mean, she's from Cag's storyline, but still.
>>544266646>Replace your deck with the Eternal Deck
Reminder that evos are fucking useless if you don't already have your goal card on hand.
>1pp 1/1 spellboost 1 (maybe 2 if played on turn 1)>can't evo trade (or even evo face lmao)yeah i don't think this is very good, too much of a fucking brick later>5pp evoplay that doesn't spellboost and eats the stackshmmmi don't think this is good either, doesn't do anything that a runenigger deck wants to do
>>544266906Has a specific class having their own replacement deck ever been a thing?
>>544266949its a 5pp 10/10 at worst brother
emergency benison nerf mean were in for another two months of crest haven
>>544266949sandal will come for me
>>544266578kidnapped by mokou until last minute
WBabby here, how does skybound and super skybound work? Also what is Ougi
>>544266905She's decently popular. Suframere is the much bigger surprise being even less relevant than Meg's friend and Tsubasa's rival
the card art doesnt really do her thigh justice desu
I think followerboost mysteria rune is gonna be the focus of rune next set. rotation will.be soon-ish and a lot of the mysteria cards are in sets 1 and 2. wammy and the 1pp girl are support for this playstyle.
>>544266979Yeah good for dirt. But the way people keep talking about evos in here for ssba, it gives the impression that a lot of you forget that you need the card on hand for the evo to count. It's not a global counter. If you draw the card later all the evo you did before was pretty useless for it.
>>544266949Lilanthem sevo clears board for Sandalphon
>>544267114Which is why cog being a generically useful 4 drop is good. Dirt was running perfumer before this if any at all.
>>544266485me on the right
>>544267104>followerboost in removalverse where crest haven existsYeah, good luck.
I play 9pp knight whore and snap her thong.
>>544267098I remember the day she came out and everyone freaking out about how massive they were. good times. anyways I want to stick my dick in between those thighs and stain them with my cum.
>>544267078And yet Yatima is not revealed yet. Is she unpopular despite being important to Society's ending arc?
>>544267258I don't remember making this post...
>>544266736Just play 3 lobby games bro
>>544267114>>544266949so is spellboost???? whats your fucking point retards
>>544266837>i can brickwow, good to know>that card doesn't help at all compared to angreayeah, because a&g is broken shit compared to any non-rune card. runeniggers seems to think progressing their gameplan should comes with 0 cost
>>544267280Nobody gives a single fuck about red Ruria just like nobody gives a fuck about blue Ruria.
she shouldve been ours dirt bros...
>>544267209It'll probably keep running perfumer regardless. Dirt was still pretty incomplete after set 2. The lists dedicate so many slots to value neutrals and spellboost cards right now despite already running the vast majority of the dirt roster
>>544267098Those thighs are almost as big as her waistWhat the FUCK is she eating
>>544267234They just have to make it absurd like Mode Abyss
>>544267346No. I want a usable leader. Daria and Galleon leans too far to one side>>544267374Edel/Cag/Perfumer seems a little greedy if you want to run glacial crush too. It'll need some experimenting
>>544267346You cant handle her dirt stacks
>>544267337Sad. I liked her story with Raybury.
>>5442669651pp 1/1 is really strong actually. it stops quick breeder and it requires an answer asap.might even make tempo spellboost a real deck (lol)
So when are we getting info on the last reveal for today?
>>544267460Do you need glacial crash when 2pp alchemic flare exists
>>544267543Wilnas instantly blows out a deck like dirt is he isn't answered though honestly I'd just run Velharia
>>544267543It doesn't clear galleon.I seriously think ward haven is going to be dirts worst matchup. I'd be glad to be wrong though
>>544267484good when you have it on 1 and literal fucking brick at any other point of the game
lmfao they banned all of nobas opponents again
>>544267717based.
>ward haven meta incoming>portal still has not removal for aether aidsdelete us please we shall suffer no more
>>544267717I fucking knew it wwww
>>544267771your orchid?
>>544267771bro your bab?
>>544267771Your cassius?
>>544267771Orchis was always one of the best answers as long as they don't coin Wilbert into coin Aether because you somehow couldn't pressure board with infinite rush cards. There's Congregant otherwise.
>>544267771bro, your congregant and 4 puppets?
>>544267346They apologize for the nerf.
>>544266485very homosexual art
>>544267896>5 damageHave you seen an aether board before?
>>544267771Your Oguri Cap?
>>544267717shamefur dispray
Friendly reminder that Ghandagoza was a silver card and he wasn't revealed till the SV-portal update.
>dragon can’t NTR steal lilanthimShe is truly for (you)
>>544267634Ward haven was already horrible matchup for dirt in set 2. One chalice and it's over. Not to mention a Jeanne follow up
>>544267823>>544267907if orchis cant go face you've already fucking lost
Fox wip
>>544268257Good thing puppets cost 0 and you can hoard them ahead of timeDo you even puppet
>>544267717Context? Is it win-trading or account sharing?
/ourguy/ is getting cyberbullied...
>>544268316y-buta vibes
>>544268220I played dirt into set 3. Crest is a perfectly playable match up even with all the banish. Unfavoured but playable. Ward is still basically unwinnable.
>Last day Sword and Dragon leggo...Possibly concerning?
>>544268321good thing orchis comes out 1 turn later too... oh wait thats not a good thing
>>544268220I wasn't playing dirt in set 2It seemed that way from the scant few I've played, but it's good to confirm it.Might be better to just ignore the matchup in that case. Dropping glacial entirely is still a hard ask, at least for me.
>>544267717noba is also warned direcly by KMRhttps://x.com/yun_shadowverse/status/1982707904534000007
>>544268349>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EUDDIE SAVE MEhavenhags this really your goat???
>>544268352Who
>>544268413Doesnt Noba stream his climb and thats probably how he's considered more legitimate?
>>544268413>KMRwho
>>544268447I dont give a shit about any streamer or eceleb
>>544268349isn't his followers are mostly haven players? why would they downplay their own craft and bully their god?
>>544268510It's because he intentionally threw games so he get matched with low ranks
>>544267896>just have 11 gears by turn 7 bro>just fuse all of them into your gundam and brick your ralmia and all your 8 9 plays bro
>>544268447Havencraft CEO here, we don't claim him
>ralmiaPeople are still hanging onto that bot past set 1?
>>544268510yes but if you net time deliberately replicate cheater actions to "test/proof" it, then you will be treated as one as well.
>>544268494The cheating sow
>ralmiablud thinks it's still july :skull:
Are we really only getting a bronze and a silver today or are there more?
>>544268774Sword and dragon last leggos
>>544267771If abyss remains prevalent I can't see any way Ward can exist.Belial just kills it dead
>>544268774Two more reveals scheduled
benison is fucking unplayable now. how do we fix it?
>>544268635I got it. Cut Ralmia, Karula, your other play makers. Run only generators and Cassius. Add dragon homo and homo angel. Build Gundam asap for board wipe and play for Gundam off legendary stall beside some eggs.
>>544268921Benis is still perfectly playable it's just not a fucking retardproof card you can throw out whenever the fuck you feel like it while also clearing the board. You actually have to think about playing defensively instead of just making sure you have exactly 1 health leftover because you are going to 4pp heal for 20 while also clearing the board next turn.
>>544268921Reduce cost to 2
>>544269024sounds good to me, do it
>>544267346rune only gets midgets and jks
>5pp heal for 6 is fine>3pp heal for 4 is fine>2pp+2 other cards heal for 1 is fine>4pp heal for 10 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS FUCKING UNPLAYABLE DOGSHIT
It's uphttps://youtu.be/AJ-gbXanchg?si=S7DCzMH0uCUBTR36
>>544269120people hate havencraft. that's literally it.
>>544269281Swordniggers aren't human
benison is not going to see any play anymore retards
why is no one giving a shit about fedial pv
remove crest roach and spellboost the game is fun now
>>544269371oh no! anyways
>>544269482you need to give a reason to care first
>>544269482Abyss kinda already has a leader for everyone.>nio for trapfans>runa for loli>cerb for sexo girl>diawl for monsterfuckers>urias for men
More reveals when
>>544269631fedial is sexier and not censored like cerb
>>544269331not everything is a console war anon. they have data of what people are concluding to. emergency nerfs only happen when the player drops lower than they like.
>>544269724what the fuck are you talking about cerberus is practically naked
>>544266578is he a big deal in granblue lore? I picked both the swordcraft starter and sinciro deck when I began playing a few days ago, I hope he's good so I can get sword for a third time and buff my shitty deck
>>544269021Nah, this nerf is too much if the other crafts aren't nerfed too but who cares? New set soon
>>544269823He's the strongest. Like literally the strongest.
>>544268349I've been playing a lot in Legendary CR these past few days and noticed it was always Haven players that hid their rating. Then I remembered that this guy does it and thought it was funny. They're copying their streamer.
>>544269724What exactly is censored about cerb?
>>544269823He soloed all 6 Dragons together 1v6 and used like 10% of his power.Unironically
>>544269724>armpits>belly>nopan
>>544269743the nerf happened because they didnt like the results in playtesting, if it was about current statistics they wouldve done it a month ago
>>544269784cerb is wearing ugly pants, fedial is showing she's not wearing any. look at the homescreen.also zeta is not censored with the ugly thingy
>>544269856>>544269927got it, that's why he's so smug in every artwork I saw
>>544269939>playtestinglol
>>544269631cerb is too silly for abyss, doesn't fit the theme
>>544269951you should go outside
Mid abyss play 5PP 8/8 rush and shit on everyone, now rune has 5PP 10/10 rush, how is this okay?
>>544269939bald of you to assume cyganjews playtest this card mess
The subtle difference between Swordfags and Havenfags is that Swordfags will come up with the most shameless bullshit in the world to downplay their shit. Havenfags though are more coy. They rarely outright lie and say their class is weak when it's good. They try to distract you, blaming others, or try to justify why they should be the best class, or convolute the entire discussion to avoid the topic of how they're busted
>>544270017you wot
>>544269987>>544270038why are you here if youre so fucking cynical about everything
>>544269939>playtesting
>>544269937This is the face of someone who knows she's best girl
>>544270034Bro rune has 2PP 4/4 rush ping 4 too, and that's only good enough for one copy, A&G is already 5PP 10/10 rush ping 3 spellboost 3, they're not gonna play 5PP 10/10 rush without spellboost just because it's gonna save them an evo point
>>544269985Also, everyone dislikes him but he's not a bad guy so it's fine
>>544269985He's a comic relief character that is hated by everyone in his team because if he shows up the rest of the team is pointless since he's stronger than everyone else on the team combined.He's also literally just Archer from fate. His power is summoning swords and he has the same voice actor.
>>544270034One works towards your wincon and is scalable. The other can brick your deck and isn't scalable.
>>544269951What were they thinking?
>>544270017>cerb is too silly for abyss, doesn't fit the themeyou better abandon this game now
>>544270072Spellboost is the best deck but posting facts makes you a Havenfag I guess
>>544270132literally no one is being cynical. people are just joking around
>>544269874>>544269937>cerb>not censoredAnons...
>>544270208They would probably apply censorship just like they did in SV1 when they tried to bring it mainstream (again)
>>544270290that's the bicycle cerberus though
>>544270273yeah its just a little annoying when trying to have an actual discussion but i guess thats on me
>>544270290>this is censored according to anonWhat do you expect? Full front nudity?
>>544270114obviously it's just my opinion>>544270245when i'm forced to use turbosilly shit i might
>>544270017Abyss is basically Shadow and Shadow is almost as memey as dragon
>>544270412>points out the designed was CLEARLY censored in the panty part>"t-touch grass">"i-it's not real censorship"oooooookay....
>>544270245blood and haven never got a critter leader...
If there's a board deck that isn't questshit I'll be happy
I had no idea we had so many newfags unaware of Cerb's censored design
>>544270208lmao so lewd
>>544270248Spellboost is still a stupid t1 deck but Crest consistently outperforms it in all competitive metrics
um leeks?
>>544270596What metrics would those be?
>>544270528they butchered Nephthys too
>>544270390gbf cerb for example.I personally like sv cerb because her little flap looks like a pair of denim short-shorts and that might be the hottest piece of clothing outside of stockings.but she is censored for shadowverse
>>544270208KMR died for this
>>544270208>>544266485sauce! please..!!
>>544270672I'm so glad he died
>>544270852Same
>>544270639Crest beats it in tournament wins, conservation rates and even ladder ratings. Rune just isn't very successful competitively.
Why is portal not getting free evos?How is portal supposed to activate super skybound
>>544268513
>>544270898you're supposed to stall into belzebub and then kill them with orchis not play super meme arts
>>544270898your cat?also eggs don't need them
>>544271039>>544270898>catsleepy...card reveal when
Im switching to sword purely for Zeta
I miss Siete, Arnie, and Seox. I stopped using them in 23, but they were still important to me. Uno was literally my MVP for take two until last year (I got Wilbert).
>>544271012Yeah you play Bub>Bub>Orhics+cat for 22 damage from hand, turn 11 OTK(turn 10 if coin) no setup required, pretty sure this is way more reliable than thr usual Orchis back to back or Liam because opponent can't heal out of it
>>544271268>doing nothing is more reliable than doing something and forcing answers out of your opponent
I feel like the only thing /svg/ consistently agrees counts as doing something instead of doing nothing is storm followers with how much I've seen hard removal called do nothings lately
>>544271268I play congressman on entwine super evol at seven to force out your Orchis
pikachuman save us.........
>>544268054what the fatfuck supposed to do in front of 10/14 with aura?
>>544271454I actually agree with anon here.What does he do against forest or abyss turn 9 followers? Aether?the combo is sound, but you can't expect to get double bubs and an orchis without the opponent getting equal draws.
>>544271454/svg/ is swordbab central
>9pp three 5/4s that heal for 2 each on strike
>>544271539Then you wasted your SEVO for nothing because I have 2 Orchis, 2 Bub and 5 0PP puppet, I drop Orchis+5 puppets, give them bane and kill all your shits
>>544271454yeah bro the opponent is not playing any cards so you can just do whatevertotally
>>544269120does any of those cards need 5 turns to set up?
>>544271786SHUT UP SHUT UP SHT UP SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>544271636Oh the forest example isn't the greatest desu.If the forest player plays back to back congregants you win that trade war.G&Y and aether are still valid though.
hags getting pissy today
you drop your orchis first? cool I'll just answer with bub and follow it up with another bub for the OTK 2 turns from now!!what do you mean you drop your second orchis and I instantly lose?
>>544271786its also the only card that does nothing but heal, 2pp was acceptable for a do nothing card but i doubt you will be able to spare 4pp to do nothing
>>544271786'set up' by... Playing your crest dudes normally on curve, sure.Haven players just need to be killed at this point.
>>544271786You're making it sound like you need to go out of your way to set it up when in reality maxxing out on crests is your entire gameplan anywaysIt's like saying dclimb is a bad card because it takes 10 turns to setup, yes sure but the reality is you never want to use it before turn 10 if possible anyways because it's best used as a otk enabler
Why not make benis a conditional card like it needs a crest slot to be played or it's too hard to code and just bump it to 4?
Forest only needs to play card card cairn bounce cairn bounce cairn to heal for 3 while also completely nuking their entire hand and destroying any possible potential to combo you
reveals cancelled?
>>544265918people will see the current spellboost deck and think it sucks but this is insane for a faster and more tempo based spellboost that is aggressive instead of playing the dirt package.
>>544272397Flame destroyers and Wam for days.I've always hated that stupid dog. seeing him on turn 4 is fucked, always has been.
>>544272397...what? this card is unplayable garbage>spellboost 1>or spellboost 3 on evo but waste an evo point on 1pp 1/1 can't attack
Do you make sure to buy crystals regularly for an RNG boost?
>>544272485I don't think it possible to see him on turn 4 in sv2 yet.>sufra>kaleidoscope>insight+MirandaIf you go second you can... nyo...
>>544272718>scopeRainbow?Same difference in this case.
Skystriker Raye for PortalcraftEcclesia for Havencraft
>>544265918How do you win going 2nd against this?
>>544272485That's the idea, why wait to OTK at turn 10 when you can shit out unbreakable board and win at turn 4-5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm-QPOlPvRo
>>544272908>Zooeyto be expected.I was really hoping for Yuni
>>544272485yeah, in set 1 rune could win on turn 6 or rarely turn 5 by playing destroyers. no one could answer that other than haven. if that new 1pp card is played on turn 1, it will probably spellboost twice. in a theoretical highroll:>1pp 1/1 (2 boost before removed by the opponents 2 drop)>2pp miranda (3 boost)>3pp owen or homework time (4 boost if not killed by removal)>4pp coin anne grea (at least 7 boost)that's assuming the opponent has a 2 drop to kill the 1/1. a single shikigami then allows you to play destroyers on turn 4 with a board that's nearly impossible go clear>>544272657if the 1/1 doesn't get removed immediately, it snowballs like crazy in a deck that has more spellboost cards and less dirt followers. not many decks play 1 drops so if you go first, it's 1pp spellboost twice (replacing the 1pp dirt sigil?) and if the opponent misses their 2 drop then it's 1pp spellboost 3 times which is really good.
>>544272908zooey believers won
>>544272887You don't, this is literally 1PP spellboost 2 that can trade or hit face
>>544272908SHE'S HERE TO SAVE DRAGON
>>544272992Ah, that makes sense. More haven nerfs when?
>>544272973>>544272908>conjunctionSOVL
>>544272973R A M P AMPIt's no Sibyl but Dragon got a new ramp card!
people who want them to change the whole crest interaction for benison dont understand the card at all. getting a big cheap heal is basically the wincon for a control deck that is just pure grind. nerfing it to 4pp is fine, the card is still okay good against slow decks but now its pretty much unplayable against aggro
>>544272973>third rampyep it's fucking over for this game
>>544272973dragon t0, OG zoey was already cancer
>>544272973>5PP lampToo freaking expensive
>>544272973cucked by dragon's anathema
Is it Rush or Storm?
>>544272908OUR SAVIOR5/5/5Fanfare : Max PP +1Enhance 10 : Give this unit Storm. Increase Max Defense of your leader by 1. Until the end of your opponent next turn, any damage your leader take >=1 will be set to 0.
>>544272973The "rush" is a mistranslation, it's storm. It's ramp with late game storm.>>544273237Storm.
>enhance 10 with runI guess it'll give dragon three more turns? But why, there's no support for Burnice and there's no other passive damage from dragon.
>Heal for 10, take 10 damageCancer>Your leader is literally immune to all damage. You cannot die unless you deck out.Honest
>>544273278Because they dont want discard dragon to exist yet.
>>544272973lamp bros are we back??
haven players are mindbroken
>>544273240>Increase Max Defense of your leader by 1*Change Max Defense of your leader into 1
>>544273264>>544273240figured>zooey>zooey>zooeyHow do you respond?
>>544272657NTA but i'm assuming he can attack on Sevo?>wasting Sevototally not ideal move but it's still 4 spellboost that can trade and need to be dealt withi wonder if they will reprint OG truth package to go with with wilnas but so far dirtboost weren't getting anything worthy
>>544273348build a wall
>>544273348You drop a couple wards and hang out.
>>544273348burnite super evolve shake my hand :)
>EnhanceThat means it can't be played in Fennie deck. Is that it doesn't have ougi?
>>544272973>ZoiWelp I guess I'm playing dragon this set.
>>544273348sevo this >>544273127 and end turn
>>544273240>>544273340Oh yea kind of mindfarted there, correct one is change your leader max def to 1.
>>544273398Is that why* I guess it gives dragon a turn to play Sand
>>544273398it's the third ramp card and it can stall for draw, what the fuck do you mean it cant be played with fennie
Dragon will ruin this game
>>544273348Same thing you did in SV1; uninstall the game until she rotates out
Thoughts on Portal, Abyss, and Forest next set bros? I need to get them to 50 wins...
>>544273501It was only a matter of time tbdesu.Wonder how they'll gut them this time
>>544273494But after you are done ramping, it's a brick.
>>544273598...like every other ramp card?and did you not read the stall for draw part
>>544273598it's literally galm but with a ramp attached instead of the 0pp 1 damage aoe spell.
>>544273598After Ho-chan it's 3PP 5/5, you can just throw her out and force your opponent to clean her since that's not a statline you can ignore.
>>544273501Game is already ruined the moment they refuse to nerf rune cards from the start.
i hate dragon players so fucking much
>>544273571dragon can already pull off bullshit like ramp on t3, any t5 play, double liu feng into garyu and other bullshit afterwards and theres still dragontards downplaying
>>544273692Galm does more than being a 5/5 storm, with 10 enhance cost at that.
how will dragonniggers downplay this
>go first as dragon>orca 2pp>dragonsign 3pp>zoi 5pp>your opponent coins their 5pp evo>you respond with wilnas evo and clear everything>opponent now has 5pp to clear 10/8 chungus with intimidateHoly SHIT dragon is fucking back
>>544273770and that is extremely inconsistent.the 3rd ramp card always, without fail, pushes them over the edge
>>544273832kill yourself
Our time has come, DraGODS
>Turn 3 Dragonsign>Turn 4 Zoey>Turn 5 WilnasSo unless you have a way to take out a 6(or 8) HP Intimidate unit on Turn 5 you're in for a world of hurt.
>>544273832Yeah I'm keeping glacial crash.Might need to play an aggressive deck if dragon starts topping.
>>544273348thanks for killing yourself
Here it is. Critical mass. Now all the new players can experience why no one ever wants dragon to be good.
Will Cygames use Zoe as an excuse not to nerf Dclimb since lmao just play dragon if you don't want to get satan+dclimb?
>>544273348>liam and evo him
why do tokens like the Knight or Bronze cards like FLashstep Quickblader have different art when evolving while some legendaries like Albert only get the flipped artwork treatment?
Dragon will save this game.
>>544274013emergency nerf incoming, they aren't rune
>>544274030albert is a little limpdick nobody compared to quick breeder
APOLOGIZE
>5pp Ramp>Emergency last ditch effort to survive as wellLmao, fuck Satan DClimb, we dragoning those niggers.
>Satan DClimb cancer>Satan DragonClimb not cancer
>>544274137>use 4pp removalresponse?
>>544274312plays garyu after when ur on t5, ur response?
>>544274137*gets zapped by divine thunder*
>>544274312>silvercloud dragonridercrying yet?
>>544274312If you spend 4pp out of 6pp just to clear it that means you didn't play the board and now you're open to Forte face
>>544272973>enhanceeh... OG zooey is 7/6. this need at least 1 evo and sevo to lethal and that's assuming your opponent is doing nothing
>emergency nerf to haven the class that is already weak to dragon>reveals third ramp on the same dayhmm
>>544274312TENKA MUNITENKA MUHI
I guess Zooey is good for face dragon without fishcraft. But the problem is that everyone has too much healing for face dragon to work.
>Coin dragonsign going second>Next turn Zooey>Double Liu Feng next turn>GenesisYour response?
>>544274404It's 4 out of 5 anon.
>>544274450Face dragon doesn't lose to healing it loses to board. It's the aggro deck that cares least about healing.
it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over it's over
kwab
>>544274357>>544274417>holy grailNow this >>544274397 is an issue.
>>544274453Coined sign prevents you from Zoing
Benis nerf is also a Mjerrabaine nerf. A pretty hefty one at that.
Dirt? Doko?
>>544274771how come
>>544274771Benis is from the previous set, swordbro
>>544274629You mean the double genesis otk variant?
>>544272973Oh no, Dragon downplayer bros our response!?
>>544274771Tragic that the deck may now have to choose to kill Haven on board now
>>544274805kidnapped by mokou until very last second of his reveal
>>544274749Curses, foiled again.
>>544274821Mjerrabaine decks could play a 2pp benis to heal if need be while playing playing another big card. Now they can't, benis eats up too much of your turn if you're using it to heal.
>>544273832>>your opponent coins their 5pp evo>implying i need evo
Going from Crest into Ramp is going to be such a whiplash
>>544274931but benis is not in mjerrabaine's deck?
>>544274946be smug all you want, rune is one the class that will get absolutely shit on in a ramp dragon meta
>>544275017The deck that he makes.
>>544274832No. Face dragon doesn't typically care about healing because it just out damages low tempo healing. Its weakness is that it's very easily killed first by other boards with better tempo or gets checked by wards. Like you can't survive Face Dragon by evolving Norman and healing 8 the way they play back breaks Aggro Abyss but you can just plop down two barrier golems and watch them die.Aggro decks are not made equal
>>544275017>>544275065WAIT I'M RETARDED I'M SORRY. I'M ACTUALLY THE BIGGEST RETARD IN THIS THREAD.
>>544259928i hope this happens when i go to work in a few minutes
>>544275065benison is set 2, jerry gives you set 3 deck
>>544275089And in turn, if other aggro decks build for it, they eat you.Set 1 had such a nice meta for that time when dragon was everywhere.You guys are getting fucked by runeknight if face comes back
>>544275172its okay, youre still in the top 1% of svg
>5pp ramp -> fennie -> zoi storm dmg immunity How do you respond without sounding mad?
>wooo it's the new boss!why does she make such a strange noise when saying it
>>544274946that's so cool that you didn't get to play your anne grea and bergent on curve. I'll just have to drop another bomb next turn then :)
>>544275302what does fennie do here?
https://www.twitch.tv/mokouliszt1
>>544275302The sheer amount of posts in this thread that don't know how the easiest class in the game by a mile works is amazing to me
>10pp astaroth yourselfrmao
>>544271786This is why this nerf doesn't make senseCard is useless in early game and only useful later in the game when opponents/aggrotards failed to kill youBenison is basically nerfed because players are bad
>>544274946this shit is never doing 8 on 5 with the current list
>>544275172At least unlike most you're smart enough to not double down here
>>544275419>he didn't get legend card
>>544275419Yep it's the 3x autoinclude neutral in every Evo deck lmao
>>544275419>the most important character>bronze
Zoi was pretty good in unlimited at one point. I don't remember her being good in rotation though.
>>544275546he was gold last time
>>544275419Fanfare : If it's super-evolve turn, evolve this follower
>>544275546Sandalphon is the only legend
>>544275546I think he got more than one card, he's just stalling the Siete reveal.
>>544275419>if it's a turn where super evolve is possible, evolve this card
>>544274946>hes prioritizing stormblast over any 5dropngmi
>>544275604seofon
>>544275419honorary gold
>>544275564The thing with Zoey is that you really have to Dragonsign or you are really falling behind by a lot with a 5PP that is mostly a do nothing
>>544275564>>544275596>>544275603>>544275609I know how you did this
the ugly lizard nobody gives a fuck about got revealed before Siete
So is dragon the new cancer now?
>>544275343i'm actually saying i'll use a&g on 5 to remove zooey and stormy for wilnas
why are they saving sword for last
>>544275574Bronze? I only see legendary card there.
>>544275760Wilnas comes out on 5
>>544275734its the new pet- and trooncraft yeah
>>544275089>but you can just plop down two barrier golems and watch them die.And have them play Ifrit with galm spells for more face damage.
>>544275419Is this the strongest 2PP yet? 2PP 4/4 Rush is solid no matter how you see it
>>544275730The guy is revealing Siete too, it's going to take a while though.
>>544275302Fennie is just a 8pp lose the game
>>5442758494ppyeah, as expected, sword might have to ditch zirc for real this time >>544259714
I wonder if you'd still run this guy in addition to Vyrn
>>544275839By the time Vee is 2pp rush, so is Edelweiss and she brings a 4 ping as well
>>544275849>Siete>Cost 4This FRAUD still can't do anything right.
>>544275827Not many play Ifrit because he's too reliant on sevo to do anything. 9PP for 3 burn is steep
>>544275849is it just the sv1 card
>>544275957this guy is much better in evo abyss that's for sure
>>544275827You wouldn't run him in Face Dragon
>>544275967That's a rune card so fuck you
>>544275849i HATE this jap cuckold why do cygames keep giving him leaks
It took him half an hour of his bullshit last time didn't it?>>544276115not spellboost. cry about it
>>544276108It's not that rare.
>>5442759575PP is too steep for a 4/4 Rush now that we have Vyn. Yes, I know you get a Lastword but you cannot afford to spend 5PP for that
>>544275779>saving the best and most broken card for lastwhy not?
>>544261483i do kind of like the idea of benison, just like dshift. in both cases you want to force them out early, and thinking about the best plays to get that outcome is fun.problem is if you can't, because you're a lower tier deck, or because you're a topaz player (like svg), then you instantly lose and quit and your friends quit because you quit and kmr has to commit ritual sudoku
>>544276220Remember what >>544269927 said here
>>544272973Wait... if she reduces damage to 0, but then Bubz increases it by 1, does the damage become 1 or 0?
>Whole thread making fun of dragon>Now that it gets one tiny thing, everyone thinks it's the next crest havenGoing by the logic that svg has had, thinking crest haven was shit when it first got leaked, that means dragon will be shit for real right?
>>544269823Weaker than danchou
>>544276327I think the damage is still reduced to 0.
>>544276341yeah bro, dragon won't be cancerous with the third ramp card, no way
>>544276352You're a gold card buddy. Smugman wins by default>>544276341Dragon is balanced on a razor edge. Zooey tipped them over
>>544276327bubz doesnt increase damage it does 1 damage
Zoey isn't Sybil or Fervor. She won't save you against aggro
>>544275578I hate her in ul. Her deck was bullshit, I'm still mad
>>544276341Zoi is 5PP do nothing and 10PP 5 damage storm, if you just jerk off instead of playing anything on board then you deserve to lose to dragon(I'm looking at you crestniggers, now I have 3 lamps let's see you survive my Ho-chan OTK)
Hell I'll even play the meme 5pp ntr spell
>>544276532what aggro?
>>544276532Neptune will though. Golden note is a bonus.
So, like the dude said in the video, I am IMMORTAL for a turn? Like ACTUALLY unkillable? Like Haven barrier but on steroids?So I can buy myself a turn for OTK or other stuff, and zoey can go face anyway.Dude.This is sick.Since late game dragon gets one shot anyway, that gimmick is w/e.Although I see in the OG she just hit you and now she sets your hp to 1 so I cant heal it back next turn.So Burnite for example still kills me as she pings during my turn.However I can now counter Belial crest. And Rune OTK.I mean isn't this like the greatest thing Dragon could ask for?Love it.
>Jap milking the reveal for 1 hour
>>544275730Rie Kugimiya
>5pp Merman/Gal/ramp 5 legowho are you going to drop from your deck dragon bros?
>>544276464Wouldn't granjeeta be a legendary alongside sandal? They were a legendary back in EA too.
>>544276679I dropped Galmieux ages ago
>>544276717We know they're a gold, same with ruria.
>>544276763why? Feetlene + gal is a 3pp clear the board...
>>543487172No...
worse version of sv1 zooeybut at least she ramps i guess
>>544276765Wait when was this revealed?
>>544275802yes?>coining a&g on 4>stormy is at 5>not counting the spellboost you get at the first 3 turns and spared 4 pp at turn 5"losing" turn 5 kinda sucks but it is what it is
>>544276679Depending on the remaining cards probably Merman sadly. Galmoo is Enhance 7 so even if you didn't draw Wilnas you can just immediately go evo Storm Galmoo and hit face for 7.
>>544276846Scroll all the way down. It was in the first or second trailer.https://svlabo.jp/blog-entry-1438.html
>>544276341this is more like 5-6-7-8 ward combo in set 2it's tier 2
Reminder that you previously could not Dragonsign into the second ramp so easily because with Liu Feng the evolve is not unlocked yet, and the second Dragonsign is too much of a tempo loss. Zoey is the perfect play after Dragonsign because she ramps on fanfare and comes with a fully stated body that they can't ignoreThis spells the end for Shadoba. No meta will ever be as cancerous as ramp meta
>>544276679too much setupyou may not draw either filene or galmi, then whatjust put the 9pp dragon back since we got a 3rd lamp cardor fuck it, ishmir if you care that much
>>544276846>>544277043Lyria has an enhance:8 if I remember correctly
>>544276327Yeah I need to know this interaction. If Bubs can actually just kill them through the Zooey barrier that would be fucking hillarious.
>>544276561>If you don't draw a perfect curve or you can't deal with 2/2 rush heal spam you're a crestniggerDragon turns shadowverse into solitaire and they act like haven is the problem lol
>>544277043Huh I missed that. Thanks.>not even jew danchouI know they're probably saving for future gbf set but this is pretty disappointing desu.
>>544277296dragontards will have fun for 1 day before they realize the meta will devolve into who will draw their ramp cards first
Does loot beat ramp?Valse answers zooey and Sincirio clears tall boards
>>544277498You need to understand something about dragon metas. It's just necessarily that dragon is the best deck every time it's good, the problem is that dragon makes the entire meta more solitaire when it's good. Even if it's not in the current game it forces players to run more linear strategies in order to navigate the dragon match up.So to answer your question yes. Just go full retard
>>544276327She sets max HP to one. Pretty sure that would have worked against SV1 Zooey but not here. Her effect is changed like Astaroth's.
Zooey isn't different from Maddening BenisonThey just give you an extra turn
just reveal it already you absolute nigger
the classic jo crystal into zooey
>>544277704Zooey is different by virtue of actually being a good card
Who won?
>>544276548You telling me this isn't peak shadoba?
loot is going to be tier4
>>544277704>10pp and 2pp are the same thing
>>544277778Kotcraft.
>>544246174What the heck they actually did it>>544268349
Total combonigger deathYou will eat the storm damage to the face until you stop playing those gay decks
>>544277778Potentially Wam.>lu woh makes more sense after zooeyHe's there to delay the storm spam
>>544277780True cancer
>>544277778How do I even find real women attractive anymore after Galleon? It's so fucking over.
>sissies panicking over dragon finally getting a good cardget fucked, zakosenjoy getting outramped every game
>>544277892thats a guy
>>544277780kino
>4x matches in a row sattan is bottom 10 cardshould I put 2nd copy or something? holy shit
>>544277892>women
>>544277938Yeah, would.
>>544277641when was dragon meta again. i was only starting during DoV but the only dragon deck i remember is buff (it was cancer, but not as much as sanctuary ra, imagination rune, tolerant man, and the entirety of kirisaku rotation)
>>544277842Playing nothing but storm from quickblader to Albert on 10 is so boring I'll uninstall
>>544272908what the fuck>>544272952she was never going to be the legend
>>544278004Discard, PDK, whale ramp, Valdain off the top of my head
>>544277983everyone already running 2 to countet haven. didn't you get the memo?
>>544278004Dragon was meta all the time. Pic was literally t1 a set or two before the final one.
>>544278004ouroboros dragon was mega cancer
>1 (one) dragon card revealed>suddenly dragon is now the strongest contender to t1 cancer to dominate the whole meta
>>544278167That's a torunament list bro you shouldn't do that on ladder
dragon was always cancer even when low tier due to how they warp the game around them, retard
>>544277998>Gonna run some errands. What do you need?lmao why does he walk like a human?And he's HUGE
>>544277778Rune, Haven and Abyss aka pet crafts
>>544278124yeah, never play during those time. i remember there's 2nd discard set but i don't think it was meta
>haven meta into dragon metaPlease fuck no
how do i play around dragonsign
>>544278123oh I know.A man can hope though.same way I hope the msq cast make it in again
>>544278324put something on the board early game
>>544278194It's the same meta that brought in Bahamut spam and GRIIIIMMMNIRRR, right? Yeah, that's retarded
>>544278180bro... that's buff>>544278194this is also too old for me
>>544278324You either draw your 2pp 3/3 or lose the match on the spot.
>>544250012Lu Woh is cute, I wouldn't mind
>>544278324it's a free turn you just increase your tempo for free
>>544277181she's 8pp enhance
>>544278375>>544278436ok i put down a 2 mana 2/2, or a 3 mana card what the fuck does that matter? you will just play merman/galmieux or ramp even harder with zoey
>>544278531you keep playing more cards until you win
>>544278531quickblader (19)turn 2 loot girl, filene (18)dragonsign, turn 3 octrice (17) turn 4 zooey, zircona evo, (11) now you're in a good spot to finish them off with storm while they scramble to clear the boardonly rune/havennigs can't deal with it
>>544278717>runeSpellBoost
Previously ramping twice by using dragon sign into dragon sign gets you killedNow dragon sign into zooey is a way safer ramp. We’re fucked
>>544278717Yeah that's the problem with dragon, the 3rd lamp won't do shit to sword raping your face, you need heal and Neptune is way too slow, you lamp too fast you can't SEVO Neptune
Sink Dragons
remember /svg/ is always wrong
>dragon warping the meta into a more aggressive one>cygay pre-emptively nerfing benis so that haven is worse into aggro nowwe just can't have anything nice havensisters
>>544278907Just play your funny birds
>>544278907atleast you got your tranny leader lol
>>544278871I still play Neptune before sevo turn at times because her crest is too important. You can then proceed to feed them fishes to heal back
What happened with the reveal
>>544278875Sink?
>>544279045cancelled
>>544278295Discard Dragon was meta a few times. Plesiosaurus got emergency nerfed in the first week it came out and pic related was in a different Discard meta, in Academy of Ages I think.
>>544277998my pretty wife
>>544279045The streamer is a massive fucking faggot that is delaying it as long as possible and spamming 3 minute ad breaks every 5 minutes.
>>544279136You don't have adblock? Why even watch that shit when it'll be posted elsewhere instantly?
>>544279136Some streamers have a stated hour where they show their reveal. Probably playing until the time is up
>>544279237The time is up he does it every time because he thinks he is hilarious. He slowly reveals information over 2 hours while getting ad money.
Stream link?
>>544279136told ya >>544267039it will be until last minute
>>544279118It was definitely also tier 1 when they released this card for Dirt. I remember playing pretty much only Dirt vs Discard.
>>544279308Then don't watch him?
>>544279358>>544275419Don't bother though
>>544277998a woman that can turn into a giant dragon is still a womanthe worse argument you could make is that all the dragon forms are genderless since the 6 dragons are shapeshifters and deliberately chose their mortal forms to be gendered
>>544279440bro its okay to be gay
>>544279440you mean a dragon that can turn into a womanthat's a dragon by your definition
>>544279440Well one chose to be a cat...
>>544272973another rapm card
>>544279118oh right, i remember those homos
>>544279440Bro that's a lot of text for wanting to fuck a huge tittied sex dragon. Who cares if it's a man or a woman if it has huge tits and plump pussy? Or a bussy, even?
>>544279528If this thing is gay then the world is wrong.
>>544279682that's gay
>>544279440this, it's not gay if they can genderbent
what card are we waiting on? sword lego?
>>544279437>" If you make fun of that viewer, everything will come back to you! "kek people are spamming in chat
>>544279767Yeah well I'm gay for Galleon
>hagfags are trannyloversLOL
>>544277778Haven
>>544279867Seafon/Siete yeah
>>544279970What does it say?
>look at stream when it was 30 minutes in>showed off card art>leave when he started looking through every single fucking reveal>come back>stream is now at 1 hour 20 minutes>still hasn't revealed itJesus fucking christ
>>544280116You guys are in trouble.This is bad, Satan!Kuh!Administration: I won't forgive you... How dare you make a fool out of me up to this point. I'll destroy you...
so eggs, puppets and artifacts are still garbage....at least wardhaven is better(dragon and rune kill the deck hard), maybe i can play raio rune(0 new cards) or maybe not.
>spamming ads>chat is a shitshow>dogshit gameplay>voice is nails on a chalkboardhow do these people get picked
>>544279440the vessels have a genderand from her versus appearance we know that galleon sheds her dragon form which is probably made out of rock or earth and the mortal vessels are inside of the dragon forms piloting them like mechsso it's not even shapeshifting this way is much cooler though
>>544280598and now he went offline
>>544280116Management: "I won't forgive this. How dare you make a fool of me. I'll kill you!"Daria: "This is bad! Satan!"Satan: "Guh!"Benis: "Sucks for you guys"Management: "I'll kill you, Madenning Benison!"
>>544280598Nobody caresStop hate watching
Who's ready for 4th set of spellboost rune and coc climb?
>>544280697me
>>544280598he is toy soldier VA
>>544280697Satan will be too slow for rune in the 4th set
>>544280697I'm read- ACK!
>>544280631he needs to build up viewers for 2 hours again
This time I'll play whatever the fuck is the best deck in the meta. I will no longer spend then years to do dailies.
its sv1 but worse
4pp 4/3Fanfare SBA - All followers Evolve. SSBA all followers super evolve
>>544280627>webmSo cool
>>544280809you won this btw
where stream
>>544280697spellboost rune is already barely hanging on
>>544281015nyo, I got zelled-servant next turn
>>544280380>>544280637Haha...
>>544277778>dragonget meme combo with lamp>runeboth archetypes are getting good cards. the fact that they might not be viable speak volumes on how bullshit current dirtboost is. hot leader >havenseems like it's back to ward. still lacking finisher just like in set 2. also hot>forestlmao>portalbetter than forest>abbysseems the most coherent as the new archetype. can also fit in aggro/midrangeso far i will sayabyss>rune>haven>dragon>portal>forest
>>544280964Kagemitsu support
>>544281116Oof, he's worse than his SV1 version, and people already called that trash.Yeahhh I'm playing dragon
>3 bladers>smug manhow do you defend agains that
whats it sayyyyy
>>544281116>turn 7>3 quickbladers plus him>9 damage to face
>>544272657how much damage does a quickblader do to you on average when sword plays it on turn 1? that's how many spellboosts that guy will get off when played on turn 1.
>>544281116is this nigga good?
>>544281174He won't get Storm if sevo'd by this...
>>544281174>when he is about to be usable the game is filled with banishes and cards that remove effects
>>544281226>>544281269>7PP, 4 cards combo for 9 damage
>>544281325no, too slow
>>544281232Fanfare: Skybound Art your whole board evolves.Super Skybound your board super-evolves.
>>544280697This is fucking ridiculous. If I had known when WB came out, I would have only played Spellboost but I didn't invest in the deck and I have 0 Rune match played right now
>>5442812694 card combo to be worse than Cerberus
>>544281116does he evolve himself too
I told you dragon bros, the last legendary card is a ramp card.
>>544281353i mean you can play it with just luminous mage on 9 and it's a ridiculous board.
>>544281454okay, well good job anon. were proud of you
Nehan does it for free and abyss actually have 0PP skelly you can spam alongside him. Sword doesn't have shit and it's on skybound restriction, this is legit the worst legendary in the new set.
>>544280697not after dragon got its third rampspellboost(current version that is playing for turn 10 otk) is completely fucked if dragon is meta
>>544278004windmill bahamut
So just the rest of the cards tomorrow?
>>544281416yes
>>544281491>2 cards combo 9PP do nothingCome the fuck on, you play that and it'll just get cleared for nothing
I play a 9/9 wamdus and 3 flame destroyer on my turn 5
that's all the legendaries then?holy fuck this expansion is boring, the game keep getting worse
>>544281553Well good thing rune is getting 3PP 20/20, instead of doing D-climb OTK you just drop this little shit+flame destroyer and win the game right there
>>5442816493 4/4 wards isn't nothing in stormverse.
spellboost needs more draw desuwheres my magic missilemy kaleidoscope
>>544281571>>544281775We're still waiting on the second neutral legendary I think? They don't normally wait for the portal update to reveal all the legendaries.
>>544281491yeah, ridiculous enough to bump Sevo'd satan into
>>544281782The only thing it's stopping is Albert, you know that mode abyss can shit out 3 6/6 ward for 5PP right, they can even SEVO the hag to get 27/27 stats, all with ward, and how impactful is that?
>>544281834Rune players ask for even more drawDragon players ask for more ramp and literal invincibilityUs pure haven players never ask for anything except fewer dishonest storm birds
>>544281530Sword will have an easier time activating their skybound arts because of Gildaria and this new card. Only being 4pp is pretty big too because you can have him evolve/super evolve bigger boards. Plus you can have 0pp cards in sword anyway with Rose.
>>544281775>>544281843they dump alot of cards on the day before expansion with a couple of them being relatively strong too
>>544281925based on the amount of crying about 27/27 it's pretty impactful
I feel like the next Haven cards will be good because right now, with all the recent reveals, there is no way Crest or Ward will survive
Say what you will about this expansion, but I enjoyed it. An expansion where sword is dogshit for a change is a good thing. Now we need one where spellboost is dogshit, and bullied by the meta. Of course this will never happen til they're forced to do it due to bleeding players. Enjoy 5 expansions in a row of Satan D.Shift.
>>544281843Sandalphon is the only neutral lego for next set
>>544281843>second neutral legendary I thinkno one tell him
>>544281925>The only thing it's stopping is Albert,and kuon. and dragon's storm cards. even roach needs to invest a lot more to clear that board.>you know that mode abyss can shit out 3 6/6 ward for 5PP right, they can even SEVO the hag to get 27/27 stats, all with ward, and how impactful is that?pretty god damn impactful and game winning.
>>544281530>6pp>freerumao
>>544281116>4PP>4/3>Fanfare: Skybound Art: evolve all unevolved followers on your board. Super Skybound ArT: Supevolve them instead
>>544281530>abyss actually have 0PP skelly you can spammeanwhile sword have 2PP more that can actually be used for something
>>544281116>doesn't drawhe's so bad
>>544282057>An expansion where sword is dogshit for a change is a good thingwhen was it??
>>544281116feels like a mid-range cardis gildaria back on the menu?
Where's my tiddy cow narmaya? I expected her in either Abyss or Sword.
>10pp deals 19 damage to yourselfWhy would anyone play this card? they want us to commit mass seppuku or what?
>>544282254This is as bad as they can afford to make it, enjoy it while it lasts. Bad sword means not being top 2. Being tier 2 is the end of the world for swordbabs.
>5pp 5/5 Lamp with an emergency button attachedI knew Zoi would bring me deliverance.
sword needs emergency buffs. now
>>544281116Squirrelbros, our time is now. The ambush sword finisher is here.
>>544281116>>544282150His skybound art is actually better than his super skybound art. You can play him on 6 with a couple of quick bladers and hit face for 6 which curves perfectly into Odin. He can also evolve ambush followers.
>>544282028https://x.com/isolate94/status/1979869502969110605do you see benis there?
>>544282254well you see all the decks that sword stomps are unplayable because they get stomped by sword, leaving only decks that can heal through sword's bullshit and possibly win in the meta, so sword is weak
They definitely want midsword to be the thing this expansion where if anything sticks to the board at all you fuck them up for doing it with Siete and the double attack spell. The most important shit is going to be what bronze and silvers they get to actually try make stick. We know that there is 3pp 2/3 Arthur card.
so who will eat well this new set?
I'm out of the loop, explain the new keyword to me so I can understand the card leaks.
>>544282425you are not activating sbart on turn 6
SOMEONE BAKEOR WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE
>>544282579Turn count + every evolution spellboosts the card in the hand by 1
>>544282435Who cares about Benison? I have 1 copy in my deck for weeks and I barely use it
>>544281116looks pretty strong. even without free evo (which sword have) he can go online in T8 and sword don't have trouble filling the board. the only thing needed is actual SSBA payoff, the bad news is that's probably sandal
>>544282028anon they dont care portl is garbage
>>544282704good in the mirror and good in the scenario where despite going lategame against an aggressive deck you can still lose because they do a billion damage from hand that ignores the board entirely
you might not like it, but this is what peak shadoba looks like
So is Wilnas considered trash still if you get 3 pp ramp and 5 pp ramp back to back? You drop him on 7 and the only surefire board answers atp are Reaper Deathslash and Storm Blast.
>>544283034He's good if opponent can't remove him, which is not gonna happen.
>>544283034He was never trash in the first place. Just not broken.
>Meg, Girl Next DoorI don't get it, it's one of the worst cards I've ever seen, why is it a gold? It's OG puppet cat levels of bad. It's a 3pp 2/1 conditional ward? Am I reading it wrong?
>>544283204remember when benison was considered meme card?
>>544283251>>544283251>>544283251
>>544283204The real draw is the free sevo late game which unfortunately doesn't justify that it's completely unplayable before then.
>>544283204>Am I reading it wrong?yes
>>544283265Bension was never considered bad, just future card bait. It was bad as is in that meta. What application does an overcosted ward serve?
>>544283034>just have 3 specific card in your first 8 card bro. it doesn't matter that you can't mull one of themthat's what they're saying about ward and it doesn't end well
>>544283357prime dragon keeper
>>544281925>and how impactful is that?Very, actually
Alright, it's over. Dragon won.
>>544283754>card that has effect vs vanilla with 0 effect just stats and ward???It's literally just "enhance X have rush". It's a worse Kit that you can play early game as a 2/1 for 3pp.
>>544283851I wouldn't go that far until we see how Evo Abyss pans out but it definitely got the best card of the set so far.
