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Previous thread: >>544244593

>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming Banner
Haru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12
Yuki - Unknown - Unknown - Leaked/Expected around 11/12

>Current Events/Upcoming Content
A Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12
Galactic Calamity Seasonal content (Gives one 5* dupe of your choosing per season) - Expected around 11/12

>Basic Guides and Introduction
[YouTube] [Chaos Zero Nightmare] Chaos Guide (embed)
[YouTube] [Chaos Zero Nightmare] Battle Guide (embed)

>PC Client (Stove)
https://www.onstove.com/en/download

>Reroll guide
https://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640
>Reroll tips
Reroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for Haru
You have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)

>Cards aren't saving
Cards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)
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this is the real thread
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Is there a website where I can check all the epiphanies?
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>>544262602
>Multiple thread shit already
Nice game CZNbabs
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Try Morimens in the mean time
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Mei Lin owns this general
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>>544262602
RAIDEN MEI
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Death to furfaggots
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>>544262736
>nooooooooooo what the fuck why won't you let me shit up the thread with my troll OPs?!?!?!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>544262602
When is she coming out? I am rerolling a new account for her
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rerolling for mei+veronica is so rough bros
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>>544262765
Partner/Combatant WHEN?!
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>>544262817
>Everybody wants to be my enemy!!!!
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>>544262757
whats the gameplay? is it good or just waifu collecting slop?
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>>544262728
Game8 has it
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>>544262909
OH THE MISERY
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I don't really like Renoa gameplay
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>>544262909
>Oh the misery
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Be honest with me bros, I didn't play E7. Are we gonna see kino like this or are the devs full-on anti-loli?
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>>544262602
>The furfag put the correct links
>This OP messed up the links
You deserve to get furfag OP.
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>indog thread
real white man love dog
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>>544262852
Ganbatte!
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Looks like we are in the bad timezone hours now.
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>>544262973
there's no way
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>>544262817
>
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>>544262748
Hot
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>>544262928
very similar to this game, a lot more artifacts (think gear pieces except they don't give stats are always teamwide), but a lot less deck building/management.
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>>544262973
I think there's one partner who is a lewd loli but nothing as based as that.
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>>544262829
We already now next month and it's not her
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>>544262973
Do you see anyone with a flat chest among the unreleased combatants???
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>5PM in SEA
Indogs come back from their pagpag farm to shit up the thread.
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theres no tooltip for this card it instantly breaks the mob
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>>544262973
Looking at all the unreleased characters they have lined up... It's unlikely, and if it does happen, it's not happening any time soon.
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>>544263135
that seems really good
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Am I missing something? Owen's buff only works on his own skills but people keep saying he combos with other attacks
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>>544262973
Lolis are in the game in some fashion so the odds aren't zero
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>>544263096
One moderately sexy playable loli was actually leaked when the game launched.
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>>544262980
Where’d her tits go?
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Which one bwos?
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>>544263189
Owen has good synergy with the female cast
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>>544263238
instant judgment
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>>544263238
The flower
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>>544263135
>Neutral boss cards tend to hit elemental weakness
>You do 1 tenacity damage for every AP on the card if elemental weak otherwise its like 1/3rd or some crap
>That mob has 3 tenacity
>Breaks
Before you ask the game probably doesn't say this anywhere
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>>544263135
rainbow element means it always hits weakness, weakness attacks deal 1 tenacity segment worth of damage per ap spent

>>544263189
the epiphany that makes wind charge give the next attack a -25% damage penalty actually does apply to any attack, but due to the shit wording of his cards people think it does this by default.
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>>544263238
Last ditch or Ballad
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>>544262748
Cool doorknob
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>>544263238
Last ditch assault has retain so it will be in your hand to look at longer
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>>544263238
Is there a way to see the motion before you fucking use it, so troll
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>>544263301
It probably saying that somewhere with false translated
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>>544263371
Doing a little false translated yourself I see
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All flatties and petites are automatically assigned to be partners.
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Hopefully future story quests are longer, as they are quite short to read.
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>>544262973
Sadly, gook feminists chased based serin out of the company
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Furfags LOST. Absolutely OBLITERATED.
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>left account
>characters i all like and find fun to play
>lost haru banner 50/50 so guarantee for upcoming characters (do not like haru that much)
>3k gems left
vs
>right account
>very strong teams and really easy progress overall
>won 50/50 haru so no guarantee for upcoming banners with characters i actually like
>not that fun to play overall
>no Ryona
>1.6k gems left
I need to decide which account i will buy the monthly and BP, so which one would (you) choose?
>
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>>544263301
No I remember reading a tooltip somewhere that said 2 AP cards deal more tenacity damage
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how long is the daily/weekly on this game?
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>>544263458
Don't bake late next time.
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>>544263472
Dailies are just basic stamina. Weeklies can be done really easily if you don't care about running chaos.
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>>544263414
what is her problem
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What is the Sands of Time currency used for?
How do I use the Universal Certificates?
Both are under Currency Storage.
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>>544263462
The one that's fun
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Just beat blue pot diff 3
damn this game is good
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so piercing goes through shield right?
Damn Veronica is insane
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>>544263584
You use during combat to reverse your action, it's the hourglass icon
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Is this even good? I think the two on the side are better.
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>>544263462
Right.
They're gonna give us a free Renoa as an apology for the Owen disaster.
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>>544263119
>its a gacha game, the point is to collect all the characters, and if they let me pick and coose that would take away the random gacha shit.
I've never played a gacha with the intention of collecting every character. I just go for the ones I want. It's also not unheard of for gachas to have split banners. Just never seen one split by gender.

I get that from the devs perspective they want to dilute the pool as much as possible to minimize your odds of getting the character you want, but if it means diluting it with furries and males people will just uninstall. Like compare playing Uma Musume or Blue Archive where even "shit" characters are still a cute girl you have potential to enjoy, to this game where even if you win the roll for a 5* there's a 50/50 that it's gonna be the gender that you aren't interested in, and you'll just pretend the character doesn't exist in your party. How many people got spooked by Hugo in this game and just uninstalled because they wanted a waifu not a bara furry in a suit?

Some might argue "if you don't like it, don't play it" but...historically this is why gachas pivoted from FGO/Granblue style mixed gender stuff to all waifu or all husbando games. Because it's more popular and sells more. Seems like a baffling design choice for a small gacha game trying to achieve profitability.
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>>544263681
if only you were right..
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>>544263462
Left has Mei Lin, therefore left is better.
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>>544263676
that's 3-4 break bars on a single card depending on how the effect stacks for 1 cost
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>>544263676
With that much tenacity damage you might as well treat that as "+1ap". I like tenacity damage a lot especially combo characters, you should try it just to get a feel for it.
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>>544263676
one on the right is the best one
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>>544263462
>meilin with dupe
>events will give us a dupe selector
>you get to have a +2 mei lin
brother
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>Both normal mode and deep trauma mode give the same save value in zero system
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>>544263763
Left scales insanely with buffs, just like Blade Dance.
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>>544263676
4 tenacity damage is nice
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>>544263776
>>events will give us a dupe selector
What?
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>>544263508
FurryGOD was TEACHING /czn/!
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>>544263462
can I have one of those accounts if you're just gonna trash it?
I don't care which one.
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>>544262973
Maybe?
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>>544263872
Sadly for you, they are both tied to my google accounts. I would have otherwise found a way to give them to you via discord or something.
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>>544263906
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
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>>544263906
Those aren't lolis you dumb redditor.
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>>544263925
can't you just change the email to a proton one? does it not let you do that?
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I am rerolling
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>>544263935
Depends if you define cunny at less than 12 or less than 8
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>>544263906
>not actual units
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>>544263935
The more hags a game has, the closer hebes are accepted as lolis. It's a normal occurrence google loli inflation
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>>544264007
those girls are both clearly at least 16 and just short.
not that i'm picky about cunny as long as she's short and cute and has a small chest i'm good. but yeah.
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I've spent pretty much all easily obtainable free standard pulls now and I only have 3 five stars still, less than some rerolls. Feels bad
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>>544263652
Ah thanks. What about the Universal Certificates for Combatants and Partners?
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purists are so weird. if she makes my dick bounce i don't really care what she is.
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Your daily life, bros!
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>>544263959
I just checked but the account type says "google" and it is tied to a stove account. Doesnt look like you can change it.
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>>544264078
Well just as name implied you can use to convert to upgrade mat to every type of combatant/partner
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>>544263906
The worst part of them being partners is that they won't ever have mindbreak art
Just imagine Serithea with a mindbreak like Mei Ling...
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>Season pass only give 1
So how do you get the other 5?
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>>544264007
Nigger they don't look 12. They have the hips of adult women. They are just petite women.
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>>544264195
Buy another pass
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>>544264195
... Next season pass
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>>544264195
With the subsequent 4 season passes, duh.
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>>544264210
NOOOOOO BUT THEY'RE SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!
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I wasted so much time on this game it ruined my life
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>>544263687
>this is why gachas pivoted from FGO/Granblue style mixed gender stuff to all waifu or all husbando games. Because it's more popular and sells more
Huh? This is literally untrue. Going the ML route only makes sense if waifus are the main purpose and not gameplay, but you literally can't have ML pandering and good gameplay in one gacha. That's because devs will have to choose between investing on gameplay or more pandering, but investing on both with such a narrow audience is a huge risk that few are willing to take. Chaos Zero Nightmare is first and foremost a gameplay-focused gacha, and pivoting to ML pandering by giving MLfags what they want (sex scenes, bikini, marriage) means sacrificing the gameplay.
>But Blue Archive and Nikke
Exactly. These games are barely games.
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>>544264156
welp rip thank you for checking though.
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>>544264210
>lolis are always drawn like a fucking box
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>>544264195
Tourist-kuns are so cute!!!
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>>544264195
I'm getting Nyx this patch and then Eishlen next patch.
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>>544263681
>They're gonna give us a free Renoa as an apology
Did you make this up or was there an announcement?
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>>544264256
The game warned you bro
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>>544264304
Game isn't even a week old lmao
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>>544263112
>Indogs come back from their pagpag farm to shit up the thread.
Holy shit you called it hard
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Which gods provide which modifiers? I think I have all of them but I lose them in my save data.

Listing:
Chaos Order (map 1 & map 2. I don't think these guys have modifiers, multiple special equipment tho):
Mutants (map 1):
Invaders (map 2, Swarm): Reduce Cost
Dark Star (map 3, they aren't listed, but this is the eye ball): +1 AP
Nihilum (map 3, chomp animation): Draw OR +1 AP
+100% Tenacity damage
Sekred: 4 Agony OR Increase damage by 30% OR Reduce cost by 1 or Draw 1 OR increase shield
Diallos: Draw 1

Goddess (all maps): Reduce cost OR +1 Morale +1 Resolve OR +1 AP
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>>544264303
retarded reddit zoomer
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Goddammit Mika you worthless fucking whore you killed us.
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>>544264303
That's the literal point of lolis you dumb nigger
You're the same kind of retard who calls stella sora a cunny game
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>>544264449
yeah it's mika and not
>rin
mhm
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show me good veronica save files
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>>544263462
kek tough decision anon. both accounts look pretty good and if you dont like haru and got a guarantee on the mei account with veronika, that is even better.
>>544263776
is 2 dupes mei a gamechanger?
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I hope you guys have been doing some spending, even if it's just a little. You should support the games you enjoy playing. We don't wanna end up like Tribe Nine.
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I swear regular enemies in the interior zone are more dangerous than elite ones
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>I want to fuck young girl to this very specific age!
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Day 2 of waiting for playable Luche
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>>544264256
>not listening to warnings
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does counselling give affinity? can i just pay the 30 gems per counsel to rush affinity levels
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Miku!
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>>544264519
Say what you want about Tribe Nine but at least they didn't release AI sloppa characters.
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>>544264628
Yes. Thats what people are doing now to get the level 7 mission
Though if your mains can be found in the city you don't really need to do that
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>>544264636
Wrong Mik*
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>>544264680
AI would shut itself down if it create something like that
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>>544264538
/bag/ is a mistake
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>>544264482
RinGOD fucking brought it back. Fuck YOU Mika.
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>>544264164
How?
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>No one has uploaded the boss theme yet
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>544264764
Use the upgrade button when you don't have enough material, it will ask you to use it instead
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>Owen admits he was a girl all along
>Her name is actually Rowen

This possibility is actually real.
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>>544264680
it feels like the executive decisions were AI generated instead
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>>544264268
>Going the ML route only makes sense if waifus are the main purpose and not gameplay, but you literally can't have ML pandering and good gameplay in one gacha. That's because devs will have to choose between investing on gameplay or more pandering, but investing on both with such a narrow audience is a huge risk that few are willing to take.
That's absolutely not true desu. Gameplay and art direction are basically entirely unrelated. Lots of games have good gameplay and good characters or just one or neither. It doesn't really change dev time to go from a male character to a female, nor does it limit your design space really. You can still tell gritty stories with serious gameplay while being entirely female or entirely male. They take place in a fictional world for fucks sake, you can just write it however you want to explain the gender ratio in the story.

Besides all that though I feel like devs should've known better as Koreans themselves that the domestic audience would not take it well to have males forced into your party against your will even if you never roll the gacha. Maybe they were trying to do something more like Limbus Company that doesn't have any romance or sexual stuff, but the (female) characters in this game are too sexualized to pull that off. If you're gonna pander to coomers you should realize coomers are very insecure. It seems like thy just didn't consider their target audience enough. Or maybe they wanted an entirely western audience but then why the dogshit AI translation lol.
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aint reading that
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>>544264482
rin is great in void content because you don't have to worry about enemies if they're dead
and you get extra AP
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>>544264817
When I do that it asks me if i want to merge the lower tier class specific mats, how do I do it without losing those?
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I've just broken past the lvl 30 wall. Is this the right time to dump all my extra stam to get one team strong enough to start farming chaos 3/4?
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>>544264818
That's not a girl name
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>>544264519
maybe if the spending guaranteed me a waifu but I'm not spending a cent just to get spooked by Hugo.
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Decided to do my first 10 on Haru's banner to see if I couldn't land on a dupe Mika and ended up getting my 2nd of this instead
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>>544264818
Were it not for his voice you could do this but I guess you could just say she was using some sci-fi voice changer.
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I'm doing Chaos 4 in the story, does this always have very high save value or only for the first time in the story?
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>>544264956
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>>544264976
just fire the voice actor and hire a girl who cares
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>>544264998
Story is short, few removal shops and has 1 floor, so it's basically a throwaway data.
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Review after a week of playing
Good
- roguelike
- builds are varied, fun combos
- good animations even on 4 stars
- music (but only few tracks)
- Veronica is cute

Bad
- relic shit. 6 slots and the relic stages are full of gay sets
- partner gacha is shit. they either need to give selector for this or change the banner to have targeted pity
- turn limit endgame in a game where you can't control your starting deck
- furry
- too addictive

Meh
- story
- characters are kinda hit and miss. most of them are one dimensional (dude food lmao)
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>>544264998
they always have high in the story mode version
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>>544264948
you aint farming SHIT in chaos 3/4 nigga you need to keep going
you were never supposed to hoard the stam because the guide missions would exhaust that shit anyways
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>>544264998
One time only. Use it to build a 3 card save.
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>>544265048
>>544265067
>>544265123
I see, thanks
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The moral of story is, in space and space hell, you can't escape religion
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>>544265052
>too addictive
>bad
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>>544264976
Put the VA on HRT and voice train him
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>>544265028
Yeah but I meant retroactively. An explanation as to why she sounded like a guy until the reveal.
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>>544265074
But anons were saying that chaos 3/4 were a good farming spot just yesterday...
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>chaos order
a bit self contradicting no?
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How do i clone Mika
Not having extra AP in this game sucks
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>>544263776
>>events will give us a dupe selector
holy cope
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>>544264268
>Going the ML route only makes sense if waifus are the main purpose and not gameplay
LMAO you're a funny dude anon, you think the game designers and writers are the same people?
Game companies have different team working on different aspect of said game.
You can have good pandering and good gameplay if your team is capable enough and knows their stuff.
For now CZN is good gameplaywise but suck in the ML department, also whoever thought it was a good idea to insert a male character into MC's squad is a fucking moron.
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>>544265225
it is, but you aren't going to stay there, that said it takes fucking forever to get to 40, and 50 is even longer

So yes, spamming Chaos runs, or tools for the 1200 xp is a valid way of grinding out
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>>544265258
learn how to break enemies and take 0 card upgrades
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>>544265052
agree with most of this
the good thing is that the bad aspects can be fixed or improved, while the parts that are already good couldn't really be fixed if they were shit
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>>544265289
>Claude works on the coding
>Gemini works on the plot
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>>544264859
>>544265289
It's one of those things you'd think would be simple and easy (Just go all-female!) but in practice gameplayfags and coomfags never mix well.
Snowbreak for example went really hard on ML so the gameplay had to be sacrificed because dev workload went into animating sex scenes instead of improving the gameplay. Same with Brown Dust 2 and Girls' Frontline 2. Each and every game basically turned into dating simulator while abandoning gameplay.
Fact is the coomer audience don't want gameplay in their gacha; they just want to auto, sweep dailies, and close the game to "play real games like console or PC games".
To expect CZN developers to go full ML pandering and narrowing their market means it's a countdown before their players start asking for full auto/skip every content in the game.
In my opinion, we're in quite a good spot right now. The gameplay-oriented people are who we want as the main audience of this game.
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lmao
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>>544265467
Brevity is
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>s ranked my first city disaster plan
>accidentally fucked up when picking my second so i'll be lucky to b rank
whoops
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>>544265289
>also whoever thought it was a good idea to insert a male character into MC's squad is a fucking moron.
Probably the same guy that decided to use AI to translate everything and not have any proofreading or editing before launch.
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is this fucker bugged or is it supposed to brick the run like this?
like genuinely how am i supposed to do 7+ hits with haru let alone the entire team
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>no little girl
>no fanart
How to fix this
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>>544265558
What does getting a good rank actually do? Haven't gotten that far yet.
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>>544265597
he'll fuck off eventually
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>>544265052
>Bad
>Too addictive
RETARD
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>>544265467
>Show game the girlfriend
>She scoffs at all the titty in the game
>Show her males
>"Why even put these in? Might as well commit to being a coomer game."
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>>544265597
hitting him drops cards that does like 3-5 hits for 0 cost
>haru
you're just bricked from the comp selection
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Is this cuck any good?
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>>544265536
Anon is saying that coomers want to coom and not play game so they don't mix well with people who want to play.
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>>544265697
gayron is op
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>>544265597
Why didn't you attack him?
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>>544265697
He's fun to play
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>>544265597
Punished for not taking multi hit. Always take multi hit so this does not happen next time.
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>>544265648
when is 'eventually'? i was on the 30th turn before i called it quits
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>>544265467
All those games you mentioned were on their way to EoS and had to do fanservice/ML in order to survive. If gameplayfags don't start spending, then there really is no other way.
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>>544265697
Silly anon, that's not the captain
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>>544265597
Kek, renoa and luke really trivialize that thing.
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>>544265697
strong
but you are gay for using him
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>>544265597
>haru
ohnonono
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>>544263687
>I've never played a gacha with the intention of collecting every character
You're just young or have only played gachas in the past few years, even some 2020 and after gacahs are collectionfag games and almost all early ones were
>Uma Musume
Difference with this game is that maybe 5% of characters actually are "meta" or stronger than others, and the rest are functionally a skin + story
Imagine if in this game all characters started with basics + 1 of their uniques and could instead gain anyone's cards in chaos instead of being limited to their own and that's functionally how uma's characters work
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>>544265597
you're bugged. he always flees on turn 3 or 4 for me.
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>"You can't do a good game that's also porn!"
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>>544265697
if you attack him he eventually starts an escape attack just let him
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>>544265875
have they ever put out a game as good since? it's been 15 years
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>>544265467
>Girls' Frontline 2.
gf2 went full coomer because the gameplay fucking sucks and is terrible so it was the only thing they could do
you'd be insane to think this game is going to pivot into pandering to incels instead of cashing in on the bulk of normies willing to play gachas and who like deckbuilders, a previously untapped niche
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>>544263371
ESLbro...
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>>544265467
>Each and every game basically turned into dating simulator while abandoning gameplay.
Yeah because the game was dying, why you ask? Because it was mixed genders and had shipping in them at first (minus gfl2 who had some ntr shit)
To keep the game afloat they had to made sacrifices yes but that's on them, they should have known better before making that kind of shit.
Wuthering Wave had the same issue during CBT1 (iirc it even had some of old Snowbreak writer doing the story) and in CBT2 they rewrote 90% of the first act to change things and make the game for ML enjoyers and now it's thriving.
You seem to forgot one thing anon, the ML audience has the most money and are most likely to spend on a gacha, why? because they're alone and don't have anything else to spend their money on, why do you think the games you referring to are still alive and doing relatively well?
>Because it just works!
Also let's be honest for a second, no true (heterosexual) otaku is going to spend money on a fucking male.
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>>544265965
I seem to recall some RPG where you are literally a pimp being pretty good. Can't recall what it's called.
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Why are Mobile Legendfags like this
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>>544265978
>gf2 went full coomer because the gameplay fucking sucks
true, I tried out the tutorial and couldn't make it past the 2nd round because it looked so unpolish and the mechanics are as deep as a pond. Shame they didn't lean into that Xcom stuff more
Also no normies are playing this game
we're all hardcore edgelords here
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>>544265875
>>544265965
Why do people glaze this game when their other games are better written and have better gameplay?
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>still no Nia and Cassius
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>>544265834
I played Granblue for 10 years and still never intended to get every character. It's just impossible unless the gacha is very slow at releasing content.

Hell even Kancolle never intended you to collect every shipgirl. You just farmed for meta ones or ones you liked.
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>>544265875
this shit fucking sucks tho.
its autistic, grindy, elitist crap and plays like a dogslop version of fire emblem mixed with a below average vn. also the art is boomeresque so it isnt even fappable.
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>>544265750
huh? normally there's a pop up above his head that says he'll flee the next turn if you take too long after killing all the other mobs (1-3 turns after)
weird
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>>544265965
eushully always did a different type of game but its genrally always rpgs.

They've done naval rts, Fire Emblem likes, jrpgs, and their best game supposedly a card game YGO like.
https://vndb.org/v8424
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>>544266050
dohna dohna? different devs so probably doesn't count. They made rance stuff so that's nice
>>544266096
it had a full and good translation. I haven't checked on game TLs in years so I wouldn't know what's the new hotness
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>>544266096
Which ones specifically
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If I'm level 35 now can I get level 40 this week?
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>>544265965
their other games are also good they just never get translated. only two others are i think.
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>>544266141
>elitist crap
Are you literally admitting you have a skill issue?
No wonder almost all modern gacha have to be fucking braindead
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>>544266309
>No wonder almost all modern gacha have to be fucking braindead
>Implying old gacha games weren't just pnj slop with no real gameplay
kek
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>>544266180
Yeah the event, story and career quests give a good amount. Week just started. Apparently the chaos loot is also more stam efficient.
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>>544266083
I played it for months before dropping it when they doubled down on shit choices, I get where you're coming from but I wouldn't call it unpolished, mechanics are only as deep as whatever the paragraph skill explanations on a character's kit are
Leaning into the xcom side would have made it a good game but instead it has dogshit element team comps and absurd dps number inflation instead of gameplay, a uniquely chinese experience desu
>>544266109
>grubble fan
Well yeah, that explains it, grubble set the formula and modern gachas just shrink the number of characters + number of pulls
It's trivial to get everyone in something like Arknights if you've been playing for a couple years
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>>544266141
you don't even start getting lewds until 20 hours in
I thought it was super fun and the story was captivating enough
the gooning was decent because I actually like the characters
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>>544266014
False, lots of them are metafags. They role and skip waifus if they’re trash / niche but will roll for a guy if he’s top tier.
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>>544265597
he will run away only at 6 hp
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If I removed a unique card from my deck, can it return with another epiphany?
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>>544266395
Does the 2nd boss gives a better rewards if you claim it with ticket?
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>>544266141
Holy fucking zoomer retardation.
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>>544266109
I personally don't mind this since my brain is oshi coded. If everyone has everything then it's just a rat race. What's the point of a gacha if it's not actually rng progression? I think that's part of the fun so long as the devs aren't retarded and pidgeonhole their enemy design.
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>>544266390
old gachas weren't deathly afraid of pissing you off. They had difficulty and consequences. Not every single one, but many weren't afraid to have those. That's why I also appreciate wizdaph being released in this modern age doing what it does right now
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Yuri needs to shut the fuck up
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>>544266014
The fact that coompandering is always the last resort/last ditch effort should tell you how the industry works. These are game developers who are forced to give up their dream of making the next smash hit and have to resort to porn to make money. They're like an innocent country girl who aspires to be an actress in LA. Two years later and she's starred in 50 adult movies.
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>running memory fragment 12 times costs 720 stamina
What were they thinking
Why would I waste this much stamina early in the game
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is counter attack considered an extra attack?
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>>544266149
i'm 90% sure what triggers him trying to escape is hitting him a certain amount of times
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>>544266572
goodluck bwo
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>>544266620
pick up those junk and get your set bonuses NOW
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Just pulled Khalipe, anyone notice the retain doing decent work or nah.
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Idk what BP Partner to pick, and this notification won't go away until I pick one
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>2 sanity breaks at the same time
Bros...
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>>544266141
i agree, the art is ugly as hell. no matter how good the whatever it is, i wouldn't touch it.
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>>544266173
>>544266174
go check >>544266168
for FE type gameplay, they've made a few later ones that are just improvements but the atmosphere isn't as cozy as with alchemy
the card game is actually really solid but it suffers from the game being hard if you're retarded or trivially easy to break if you're not, you have to put together themed decks just for your own enjoyment's sake or you'll drift into ftk/control lock decks
also they separated the heroine routes with the gameplay faction routes so you can mix and match, but they really should be together since one or two heroines get way more content per gameplay route and there's little point in replaying the same route
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>>544266697
you have at least 2 turns to fix it. You can tank the next hit and there's a non-0 chance you get early recoveries
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>>544266678
Yes, it's incredibly good. You can put them in your hand and trigger them the turn after.
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>>544266697
you can do it mika-chan!
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>>544265875
It's not that porn games can't have good gameplay.
It's just that people who seek porn games don't exactly care about gameplay.
If anything gameplay is a wall/nuisance that prevents them from getting to the good part (porn).
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>>544266620
Gotta make sure you get stat bonus
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>>544266678
>>544266776
Ah fuck me I'm retarded I didn't notice it also retained the card too, was looking at the shield. I took left since I could cycle them decently fast with Haru. Good to know though.
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>>544263462
>hugo
>fun to play
Bro...?
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>>544266854
Left is giga bait btw, you kinda die by removing the shield. Probably works in low chaos though.
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>>544266879
FuA playstyle is fun
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>>544266626
I think the card tells you if it’s an extra attack or not
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>>544266819
>It's just that people who seek porn games don't exactly care about gameplay.
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How is the script in this game?
Is it the standard MTL shit, or did they actually hire some English-speakers to give it a once over?
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>open /czn/
>MLkike bickering
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>>544266972
You play porn game... for the porn. I can't believe this is controversial at all.
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>>544266579
Now now, I never talked about "coompandering" but ML pandering, you don't need to use porn to make the characters for (you) or give a good relation build up with the MC and the girls.
Using coom design and pandering is ended the last resort, but as I said the devs should known better their own fucking audience, people in the east aren't the same as in the west. (plus let's be honest CZN has some coom design too)
That's also why people here, they don't give a fuck about males or the owen "issue" because they enjoy the gameplay. But on the other side of the globe it's not the same thing. And at the end of the day JP/KR/CN are the ones that are spending the most in gacha games so losing that cash cow will fuck them in the ass but smilegate is lucky, their game is just a 2D one that doesn't require long development/update time (other than designing the cards and balancing things) + their servers might cost virtually nothing to keep it running compared to more demanding 3D games.
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>>544267006
The nightmare is ongoing…
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>>544266939
Yeah luckily I'm in a throwaway normal codex 45 run, should be fine. The aoe feels really damn good though, maybe I can just bulldoze everything.
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How many cards do we draw per turn? I never counted.
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>>544266665
>>544266846
Ok then I'll just waste literally ALL of my tears to complete one mission
I hate it
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Healing scales off raw attack yeah? Or some HP%? It just seems strangely weak and does not say what the calc is unlike Defense Based Damage.
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>>544267151
scales off of defense stat
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>>544267069
We are spending more than all those places according to that one list. And it’s all gookcels bitching about Owen. Japan is getting filtered by the mechanics and gameplay, not the dudes. They want shit like skip buttons and sweeps on everything
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>>544264519
Yeah ive been enjoying the game enough to just get the monthly and also the pass. If we flop for the monthly revenue chart then we're so cooked. Duet Night Abyss + low revenue is def gonna make us EoS in less than a year.
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>>544266819
there's a bit of give and take
if a porn game is good then the gameplay will directly connect with the porn in a meaningful way, while the bad kind just have some generic unrelated gameplay to justify it being a "game" and not just porn art uploaded on patreon
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>>544267057
depends on how much porn you want in your game or how much game you want in your porn
if not then any combination of porn/game would be useless and people'd just go play a game or consume true porn
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>>544267228
Endfield beta livestream in 4 days it's OVER for this game
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>>544267224
Well japan is a lost cause if you ask me, their brain is fried due to overworking so they can't play vidya anymore kek.
As for the list I don't trust imaginary numbers, as long as the devs don't show us the real numbers I'm gonna assume Asia is spending more.
That being said it's true that CZN seems to be more popular in the west.
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>>544266579
I don't think coom pandering is the problem here it's that they made a game that appeals to fetishfags(grimdark, mental illness, mindbreak, etc) and then didn't lean all the way into that design choice.

like, if i'm playing a game to see girls mindbroken why would I want a wolf man? the game's marketing entirely revolved around girls being mindbroken so I kinda don't blame people for being mad.
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>>544267238
>>544267240
Yes so if you're a porn game developer you'd focus first and foremost on delivering a good porn. Gameplay would be 2nd. There's a reason most porn games are hentai graphic novel.
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>>544266982
Godawful, there's like 3 or 4 different names for the same keywords making the gameplay rather confusing
Some choices are literally on the wrong buttons because of poor insertion
Still fun as fuck and a solid 9/10 game just on gameplay
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>>544266654
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>>544267350
>like, if i'm playing a game to see girls mindbroken why would I want a wolf man?
have you possibly ever once considered that people other than you exist?
if you walk into a store to buy your favorite snack, do you wonder why they even bother stocking others?
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>>544267350
True.
>>544267451
Well you don't have a 50/50 chance to buy the wrong snack at the store anon it's not the same.
I would have agreed if the game had guaranteed banner but that's not the case here.
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>>544267057
Sweet is easy to do.
Salty is easy to do.

However, sweet and salty? That's easy to fuck up. Most won't even try.
But when you do it right- nothing beats it.
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>>544265289
They don't need to be the same people retardbro. Companies have resources to allocate and spend. Any money saved on gameplay can be spent elsewhere or saved. Every dollar spent is a dollar less in the pockets of the top brass.

Ask yourself this, if their audience is a bunch of MLfags that don't care about gameplay, why would a company waste any money on gameplay when it's not gonna give increase their profits one bit?
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We truly are Chaos Zero Nightomare
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>>544267541
the game does have a guarantee though? you get the 300 standard pity and also the limited pity after losing the 50/50 once
it's just annoyingly worst-case scenario because gacha as a monetization model is, surprisingly, predatory
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I don't know about gameplay vs coompandering or whatever but I do know that they shouldn't listen to gooks. The game will end up being Solo Levelingslop.
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Is there any way to increase affinity or am i fucking time-gated until reset?
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>>544267451
honestly if more people defended the guys i'd be more okay with it knowing at least someone likes them to counteract my dislike. but given that all the pre-release shilling was stuff like pic related i doubt anyone picked this game up for bois, in which case the devs are probably panicking.
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>>544263906
I was thinking of buying BP then I found out they're partners. So no mindbreak scene, sucks so much
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>>544262602
help me build 2 teams for the endgame.
i never use Khalipe, Kayron, Nia and Mei before.
Mei Lin i just got her.
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>>544267612
Kaosu*
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why are korean against this game
are they stupid
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the problem with pandering is that no one would say having a capable MC who's competent at their job who the other characters occasionally flirt with would be going too far and would appease 90% of pandering fags, but MLfags want some kind of ultra fantasy indulgence where everyone's eternally obsessed with you
they screw over any chance they have of getting what they want or even having normal conversations with people by instantly demanding a mile instead of taking an inch
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>>544267557
>why would a company waste any money on gameplay when it's not gonna give increase their profits one bit?
Because at the end of the day it's a game and they gonna have to stand out, there are so many gachas out there if they want to become popular or have a chance to compete they need to nail both the gameplay and pandering to get a larger audience to play their game. (one that has money to spend) I highly doubt females are playing CZN (at least not many of them) so I don't see why they should not pander to the rest of the playerbase.
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>>544267676
good point unironically koreans are the most chudded race in existence. they will seethe at anything, real or imagined, just for the sake of expressing their incel rage.
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>rin is... LE BAD
Had a few close calls, some of them due to my own mistakes but for being my first deep trauma and first level 3 chaos, it went pretty well all things considered.
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>>544267451
I’ll buy a snack that caters to my tastes, not some strawberry-chocolate-curry-rice-egg-cheese-pepper-apple-juice flavor.
Try to please everyone and you please nobody.
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>>544267350
The stress mechanic is a big draw but it’s mainly there as an excuse for the explicit fanservice. The actual big main draw for the game is the gameplay itself, which is impressive huge
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>>544267728
Khalipe Cassius is a great shell to help a single target dealer. Especially if they have some 2 cost cards to proc Vulture Launcher. Beryl fits pretty well IMO.
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>>544267728
Khalipe Nia Cassius is busted
Mika Maribell Mei probably good too
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>>544267756
>Post an Uma
>Where the girls literally groom the trainer
>Complain about MLfags
lol
lmao even
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>>544264195
is there any tier list for this?
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>>544267791
She's pretty fun to play, I don't really like any of her builds outside of the tutor 2 nukes on her dark mist card personally but it needs a lot of cycle or a lucky dupe.
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>>544267687
>gifts (only obtainable from the policy shop and rarely on dates)
>dates
>approving their policy
>therapy
These are the only sources of affinity in the game. Keep in mind the last two only give you ~5 affinity
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>>544267756
This so much this admit it y'all want Chad MC like Rover from WuWa not only he has harem he also a God with OP skills and abilities.
Rover alone can aura farming CZN verse even with jungle gap and mid diff.
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>>544267857
don't even need a dealer just put in nia and let Khalipe kill everything
>>544264195
Just wait until you realize they need dupes to be good as well
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>>544267693
>Panicking
You act like this was their Final Fantasy, the shit is held together with gum and string and cut corners even then.
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>>544267728
>endgame
You work with what you get from roguelite. Same character can play in very different ways, depending on your luck.
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Go back to /gfg/ or /snowg/ already losers.
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>>544267883
Nyx 3-5 times then you’re free to get whatever you want since every character you want in a team is a controller
>mika
>cassius
>mika
>rei
>nia
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>>544267963
>Just wait until you realize they need dupes to be good as well
The grind never ends
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so saves with less than 6 cards get artificially filled to 6? I had the top 4 at the end of the run but these two basic cards just popped out of nowhere?? Is this fixable?
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>>544267756
>MC who's competent at their job
To be fair this is the exact opposite that has happened despite the MC being a supposed veteran.
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>>544267963
>Just wait until you realize they need dupes to be good as well
bruh the controller partner is free 3 card mill with +1 draw, the effect alone is gamebreaking
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>>544267853
>Try to please everyone and you please nobody.
Why do people keep pushing this meme when most of the top earning gacha are omnipandering
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>>544268008
You're never gonna turn this place into /e7g/, shiptranny.
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>>544268008
See
>>544267006
Life was better for these threads before ML first popped up, now they’re still here for some reason and never leaving like an STD
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>>544267693
>i doubt anyone picked this game up for bois, in which case the devs are probably panicking.
I've seen people on Twitter pick up this game for Hugo, but the other dudes are garden variety generic boys that wouldn't stand out anywhere. Basically there's no reason for communities like Husbandomains Reddit to plunge into this game for, say, literal who Luke.
ZZZ is still smarter in this regard as they only release one male every nine females but when they do, they go all-out for the male.
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niggers just go buy hooker
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>Deploy agents to a Chaos
>Mindbroken within the first minute
>Deploy pic related to a Chaos
>Clears up the anomaly in a week
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>>544267350
>why would I want a wolf man
You don't have to roll for him. A lot people drolled over Kayron in E7, I can imagine there are players who want to see him getting mindbroken as well.

My biggest issue with MLfags is that they want to be pandered to exclusively even if games did not start pandering only to them. It's really toxic in the long run. Also ML itself leads to extreme flanderization of the characters. God forbid we have male in group, fucking owen is threatening my masculinity, taskute developer-san
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>game has 9 to 1 female to male ratio
>retards are still complaining
Fucking schizo shut the fuck up
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>>544267541
eh this is true but you still go into the store knowing that sometimes what you want will be out of stock and you might have to settle for less
this is why focusing gameplay and less coom would work because gameplay fags don't care about running a guy if he's got a fun kit
>>544267693
mindbreak is, like most fetishes of its type, probably filled with far more female fans than male
not appealing to them with this type of game would be silly
they're probably the ones complaining about the lighthearted setting
also isn't one of the directors a woman?
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>>544268058
Ok true, I'm just not sure how hard I'm being carried by Popoko.

It turns out that the effect stacks individually at different ego levels, so I have a c0 and c1 and when there's 3 enemies it gives 69% dr, although it might only be 1 hit.
Controller partner also damage boosts the team which is good.
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I don't know why they thought shitting up your save file with save data values was a good idea. There's nothing more demoralizing then getting a god run only for the deck to be taken away from you.
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>>544267879
MLfags hate Uma because they think Umas having rivarlies and friendships with one another is yuri though
If it were up to them Umas would never talk to one another unless it's about toreina
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>>544268123
They’re the opposite side of the extremist coin that the screeching blue haired feminists occupy, wanting everything to cater to their whims
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>>544268163
They're apparently planning to fix that. The idea was that you're not allowed to be far stronger than they want you to be.
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>>544268163
You are not ready for real demoralization, the Memory Fragment mine
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>>544268067
I can't imagine them watching anime with normal straight relationship, imagine playing Naruto Mobile and feels cucked because Sakura ended up with Sasuke.
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>>544268146
>9 to 1 female to male ratio
>mentally ill homo cockroaches are still acting like this is THEIR game
Shut the FUCK up.
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>>544268067
Cause they wanna give an excuse why their poor, greedy, broke, selfish, freeloading asses can't support a game that they continue to play
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>>544268082
There is only cuckposting and bara posting on the /zzz/ of this site it’s quite worst than czn whenever I’m mentally ill enough to check it
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>>544268082
>I've seen people on Twitter pick up this game for Hugo, but the other dudes are garden variety generic boys that wouldn't stand out anywhere. Basically there's no reason for communities like Husbandomains Reddit to plunge into this game for, say, literal who Luke.
thats actually a good point and i joked about it with a friend while shilling the game to her.
every boy in this game is wearing a suit and tie. WHY??? even Cassius and Hugo who are ostensibly monsters are stuck in a suit. they could've tried harder with male character designs if they wanted them in the game.
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>>544268031
No, chaos runs have a cap on character value you can take out, and that cap grows with difficulty. Basic cards are one of the ways to lower the value by dilluting the deck. But on difficulty 10, you'll probably be able to have 1 card decks with full 5 star equipment loadout.
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>>544268163
The nightmare is ongoing…
>>544268179
Eh really? as far as I'm concerned MLfags only wants the girls to be for (you) and the MC not being a pussy.
But I guess there are levels for that shit too huh?
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>544268250
Remember folks, no Yous for shit bait!
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>>544268146
>game has 9 to 1 female to male ratio
>get gay furry as first 5*
Yeah fuck this
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>>544268031
Probably datacap dependent
I hope some based autist susses out or datamines how the datacap works exactly
My best guess is every card removed progressively costs more and more of your data cap
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>>544268163
balancing people getting god runs is a good thing actually but there needs to be a bigger mechanical explanation or allow you to be the one that trims your deck down after runs
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>>544268270
Woah… czn are just like my 3 favorite games combined of limbus company zzz and lor
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When does dimensional dawn reset?
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it's is difficult to understand why someone would sperg over male units in this game.
if it was full on woman pandering i'd get it but they are side characters at best, the gameplay is fun and the girls are hot.
what's the problem?
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>>544268224
kek they just read slop like gook leveling and it's 10000 knockoffs
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>>544268331
trimming would be cool, at least you'd get to keep the important stuff. I can't imagine getting a good deck only to have that 1 crucial card cucked out of your hands and everything else falls apart
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Hey can you guys help me out? I want a game that doesn’t have any males in it. I fucking HATE males and never want to see or obtain one.

Mind pointing me in the direction of one?
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>>544268158
Yeah I don't know how good the other ones really are but at this point I'm just gonna pick up another Nyx for my second team. Crazy how good she is. Also very cute at campfires.
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>>544262748
post moar sloppa
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>>544268297
Bro Nikke and BA count as cuckge by MLtards
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>>544268426
The really problem I think, it's the MC not behaving like the veteran he's supposed to be.
Other than that I guess the game isn't dark enough for some people.
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>>544268475
Nikke. Or BA. Or Azur Promilia, whenever that happens.
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>>544268475
Love and Deepspace
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>>544268297
>Eh really? as far as I'm concerned MLfags only wants the girls to be for (you) and the MC not being a pussy.
When Stella Sora released half the thread was seething in a war between MLfags and yurifags because you can select the MC's gender.

Of course inevitably yurifags won out because femTyrant has infinitely more fanart.
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>>544268475
Star Rail is two blocks down my friend, you’ll love it.
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>>544268297
Snowbreak literally had a whole controversy over two of the playable girls being friends to the point it had to be rewritten out of the game
Most MLfags want the girls to not just be for (You) but be obsessed with you, to the point where she's not allowed to be friends with anyone else, even other girls. I don't doubt there are reasonable MLfags but they're definitely a minority
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>once you run out of stamina,story,battle and dimension missions there's nothing to do but chaos runs
>if you are level <40, you can only do the shitty chaos mode with less rewards
This fucking sucks
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>>544265467
I don't know for other peoples but for me i don't ask much for ML.
They can totally make a game with females only and keep the romance / pandering only in the story and events.
They don't have to make it a porn game or something.
I'm probably one of the rare players that liked early Snowbreak more than current Snowbreak, dropped the game at the first anniversary.
The only issue is that the gameplay need to be good enough to support the game and that's the case with CZN.
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>>544268426
>male units
>s
Did the gooks complain about anyone else other than Owen?
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>>544268475
Well are you in luck? You’re in the right thread bucko, this is the game for you!
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>>544268426
The problem is they're diluting the pool
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>>544268629
Grind out the chaos modes until you hit 20 for the upgraded passives, it's good groundwork and what I did on some of the 30-40 deadzone.
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>>544268426
Every one male/furry/silly character is one less female
Devtime and effort is a limited resource

CZN isn't going to be attracting the fujo/furry population with the breadcrumbs it's left out, so might as well not bother.
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>>544268034
>To be fair this is the exact opposite that has happened despite the MC being a supposed veteran.
exactly my point, the captain doesn't need to be jerked off relentlessly, just make him good at his job when he's needed and you get to look cool every now and again
>>544267879
umas got a pretty huge range of characters from ones who are just buddy buddy with you, to ones that get obsessed with you, to daughter type characters, and so on
MLschizos got ran out of the threads after failing to bait anyone after a while because it turns out you can just engage with the stories that appeal to you
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>>544268616
>Snowbreak literally had a whole controversy over two of the playable girls being friends to the point it had to be rewritten out of the game
KEK so even female friendship is considered ntr by gooks now
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>>544268728
Well yes, even Nikke has Yuri schizo
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>>544268668
For the people that care maybe, but they ain’t everybody. Maybe they’ll make all the guys into girls but seeing how Hugo is their only character getting any fanart I doubt that.
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>>544268728
Nyo those are chinks actually
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>>544268530
>>544268558
>>544268616
Damn that bad huh, I always considered myself an MLfag but I never had an issue with the girls being friends, I mean that's how Harem works right? Girls are friends and there is no drama between them and the MC can just fuck them all together since they're cool with it. If anything it won't make any sense if they're no interaction between them.
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>>544268437
I hope they add a system where you get given all the options on trimming after a run, not taking okay gear because it'll override some good card is miserable
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>>544268694
It brings in the people who would never play a game that’s female only, and believe it or not there are people who are playing just for Gayron and the furry. One of my friends is exactly that.
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>>544268728
It's worse than that, in Snowbreak for example they hide the characters VAs name because they don't want to feels cucked if the VAs already married or voicing others anime/game characters.
They also hunting down cosplayers for cosplaying their waifu because they feel cucked too.
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>>544268163
Okay say they delete the save cap system
Now you can run the lowest difficulty where you one shot everything while getting a God run every time with 0 risk and effort
Surely you can see the problem with this?

They could rework the whole thing to force you into higher difficulties sure whole getting rid of the RNG, but getting a God run every time would still suck the fun out of the whole thing. Stella Sora works like this already where there's no real variance in the roguelite mode and it fucking sucks. Every run and build is practically the same, with the only difference being tiny stat variances.

I am way more of a roguelitefag than a gachafag though so I am biased
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>>544268728
Those are chinks. And by the way they also forbade cosplayers because "they're tainting our pure wives"
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>>544268829
Just call yourself a haremfag instead of an MLfag retard, the movement is already coopted by extremist at this point.
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>>544268631
i literally just want cute girls, i couldnt care less about the writing or pandering as long as the game setting is a world where your team is composed of cute girls.

thats probably the same for 90% of "MLfags" and the rest are just a very vocal minority of schizo cuck fetishists.
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Man...I need her to be playable...
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>>544268829
>I mean that's how Harem works right?
>and the MC can just fuck them all together
despite you already sounding a little schizo, you're no where near full MLfag status where girls being in a harem implies that they might have threesomes which implies that two girls might kiss (entirely performative for your enjoyment) and THAT would be cucking them
every woman must be kept entirely individual and separate
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>>544268616
Let's add Brown Dust 2, literally removed all new future male banners A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, but kept all males already in the game.
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>>544268082
I quite like Luke. He's a tactical edgelord unlike Kayron who's just as annoying as Epic Seven variety. Also unloading Ult, five + bullets, Demon Dance, and Finisher into boss in a single turn looks great. Only issue is my favorite Demon Dance variety fucks with Khalipe's Rally.
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>>544268829
Yeah that's the old-school way of things but like everything it's gotten retarded and extreme
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>>544269018
Discard it, mythic grade will fuck up your save data more.
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>>544268631
they have a fucking dating system in the game, just put the (you) pandering in there and make every character be into you, doesn't that please everyone?
if you want to be hit on by a cute dork or a giant furry then you'd have to specifically take them out on a date
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Chinks and gooks already treat femdom as feminism they’re beyond saving.
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>>544269003
>despite you already sounding a little schizo, you're no where near full MLfag status
kek good to know anon.
>and THAT would be cucking them
>every woman must be kept entirely individual and separate
Damn that's a bit extreme, I didn't think it was THAT bad.
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>>544268261
that's just because everyone worth a shit for /zzz/ fled to other sites after the hack
same for /vt/ where the board legit dropped 80% of its post/min to other altchans
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I just hope that if they decide to crank up the lewd they'll do so by going even harder on the mindbreak and shit
Who the fuck would want boring vanilla marriage fan service in a game like that
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>>544269091
is this actually true or am I getting baited...
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>>544268694
>CZN isn't going to be attracting the fujo/furry population with the breadcrumbs it's left out, so might as well not bother.
It does bring players, also it stops you from having Nikke reputation.
As someone who really digs mix of gameplay and lewds, I used to think like you, that more is better. Recently though ZZZ completely blackpilled me, because there is nothing more obnoxious than gooner audience.
At this point I am willing to accept the most furry gaylord character as long as it will act like scarecrow for the parasocial ML crowd.
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>>544268437
I think showing the numbers and giving you a bunch of 3-choice picks for how to lower your data to the cap would be a good compromise
>Your current data is 7500 over the cap
>Would you like to:
>Remove Pot of Greed (-1000 data)
>Remove big titty god epiphany (-2000 data)
>add a basic strike card back (-3000 data)
>(pick 1)
Something like that
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these runs feel like a waste of time when they don't even save the cards I upgraded and need.
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>>544268616
>>544268728
Based.
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>>544269139
ye plenty of gacha generals just moved to THAT site because it has active moderation and thread IDs which solves all schizoposting
>>544269117
Master Love is one hell of an insane rabbithole, stop labelling yourself as one if you just want a harem of cute girls, that's normal human desire and fairly common in media
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>>544269262
>stop labelling yourself as one if you just want a harem of cute girls
Will do anon, thanks for the advice.
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>>544269262
wait really? people actually stayed?
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>>544268776
I care because my first 5* is damn Hugo and my 2nd 5* is Luke like what the fuck are the chances of that??? FIVE STARS ARE 7 FEMALES 3 MALES FFS
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>>544269240
Get to higher difficulty. I'm at the point where most of my stuff gets saved and even when something gets cut I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
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>Play CZN bro, it's fun
>You can do rogue-like and get OP
>You can then save the OP run to use outside of it
>Try it
>Can't save runs if it's too strong
What the fuck is the point in the rogue-like for powering up characters if you can't save OP shit? These systems are at odds with one another. You could remove the whole save data system and everything would continue just fine. As for the data limit, why not have latter runs be longer as you get higher in level instead of taking (random) things away from the player?
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>>544269240
Enable nightmare mode.
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>>544269180
Did you realize the reason why your data have high number is because equipment?
Now think about it you have high data but your chaos zone has low save value data.
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>>544269358
just reroll bro that account is cursed
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>>544269154
they should get rid of the lewd outfits and slutwear, and instead triple down on ryona, gore, and mental breakdowns
I don't want panty flashes I want my girl's arm to get torn off and she's still continuing to fight with tears streaking down her face as she chokes back sobs
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help
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE
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>>544269180
We don't know 100% but from what I've seen and felt anecdotally gear does have a big effect on your data cap
Whatever you do do NOT put it on Rei or Mika you're basically spending a massive amount of your allowance to make your support do 0.1 damage instead of 0
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All this talk just reminded me of the nips that felt cucked in otomege LN having the two main girls get closer together and even kiss while mc is away and getting another gf which just wasted their potential since I’m not a big fan of everyone must love you and you alone and ruined what could’ve been more character development I heard 100 gfs has in harem relationships too and don’t mind that either but haven’t bothered to watch the anime or manga and reading shit about the other ML games is Borderline schizophrenic
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>>544269471
>they should get rid of the lewd outfits and slutwear, and instead triple down on ryona, gore, and mental breakdowns
>I don't want panty flashes I want my girl's arm to get torn off and she's still continuing to fight with tears streaking down her face as she chokes back sobs
couldn't have said it better myself. based gurochad
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This is the highest save I can find does anybody else see anything higher?
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>>544269409
Play the game you will unlock this version of Chaos, imagine Chaos nightmare difficulty but with modifiers but higher data value
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>>544269018
Your attacker's weapon duh.
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>>544269412
I do and it still doesn't keep my 4 copied of anchor pointer
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>>544269524
if you're that same anon using Second Method on Rin, it doesn't work on any of her skills afaik. Extra Attacks are things like counters or Hugo's Hunt charges.
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>>544269627
Sure, I'm not even contesting that you'll eventually get an uncapped save data but it all seems so pointless; a deck editor with a cost attached could serve the same function.
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>>544269471
Seeing magna’s arm torn off while she’s looking lustful would actually be hotter? Im no guro fag either but I first think of those shitty artists fucking Corpses and not the kino in battle wounds and fighting to survive is funger like that?
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>>544269471
This but with male fujimaru
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Who's Mika's best partner?
Yvonne seems the best despite being low rarity because of not using attack card = heal 53% HP.. it's not like I'd want to attack with Mika's card
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>>544269685
they really need to do extra work with the descriptions holy shit, thanks anon
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>/czn/ is the 2nd fastest thread on the board
>/sora/ isn't even listed
holy fuck everyone really moved here
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No, I don't want MoonLight summons. Thank you very much.
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https://czndecks.com/
Deckbuilding site posted last thread
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Where's the fan wiki for all these translations?
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>>544269358
>Leveled Owen
You aren’t fooling anyone, you’re already gay
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>>544262852
veronica's ballistae dont deal tenacity damage so shes a horrible team member for mei lin
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>>544269752
>a deck editor with a cost attached could serve the same function.
I think this is one of the upcoming features. I remember someone saying that there's an untranslated deck manager UI so they might be working on that.
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>>544269926
because this game is VERY gameplay-intensive due to its deckbuilding nature. similar to Uma Musume when it first launched (JP)
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>>544269926
It’s because it’s a very interesting game that hasn’t blown up with normalfags yet (and never will, since it’s too complicated for them and has gameplay focus).
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>>544268067
>Most of the top games are omnipandering
>it's just mihomo games that got all their fanbase from covid normalfags and a 10yo extremely jewish game
lol,lmao even
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>>544269358
Cursed ass account.
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>>544269584
the rise of mainstream faggotry has caused people to forget that lesbians are just performing for men because it's hot to them, the true lesbian appreciator must be homophobic in nature to the point where he doesn't even consider it possible to be authentic
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>>544269943
He is inevitable
The dev already said on the interview that they will add seasonal limited banner probably an alter, expys from E7 and collab.
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>>544269982
I have no choice, my ass was getting kicked in the beginning and the game forces you to use him early due to lots of fire weak enemies...
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>>544269926
So THAT’S where all these annoying fucking MLcels are coming from. It all makes sense! I’ve NOOOOOOTICED
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>>544269996
erm meibros is this true?
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>>544269752
Except you have to actually play through a run and hit the RNG, you don't just get exactly what you want for free.
It's why people like Path of Exile and similar games. Even if you use the same build as another person the stats on your gear are going to be very different and you might have some big differences in a few places from personal preference or what was available to you. It's nice to have a unique thing that you made.
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>>544270014
Huh? I was saying a deck builder as a way to bypass the unnecessary rogue elements. How would they add that in the game with the roguelike? Modify decks for Chaos starts?
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>>544270068
>collab
Which IP would be even willing to collab with CZN since their character would have to be:
>gored in various scenarios
>mind broken
>mind wiped
It feels like the collab partners would be extremely limited for this game.
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>>544265467
if they wanted a game that succesfully attracted both genders they would emulated AK’s safe designs.
mixing coomer audience with normalfaggotey never works well.
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>>544269358
If that was Kayron instead of Luke this would actually be a cracked af reroll
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>>544270186
CZN need to continue the tradition
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>>544270181
I imagine they'd add it at the end of chaos so you can choose what to keep instead of randomly deleting crap because you went overcost
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>>544269358
The game is trying to tell you that you're gay brother
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>>544270186
Whichever one would cause the most asspain in the fanbase of the collab game, of course.
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>>544269982
you get a pull at 20
>>544270181
Oh yeah this would be nice to have a UI for
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uhh what
where are my cards
how do I fix this?
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>>544270186
Higurashi?
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>>544270186
BlazBlue or Guilty Gear
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>>544269926
The power of schizos and actually being a game
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>>544270168
>It's nice to have a unique thing that you made.
That's what the RNG in the gameplay is for, like a card game. Just because you run the same deck as me does not mean that you'd play a game out as I would, even if we somehow drew the exact same cards.
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Do limited roll count carryover to the next? I don't know if I should bother rolling for Haru...
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>>544270302
Oh shit this would actually be a banger of a collab
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>>544270186
Zzz collab with tailor made chaos but listed as hollows with all the deaths being their tops being vaporized or becoming an ethereal
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>>544270312
is this todays
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>>544270186
The only requirement is that Kim Ji-hoon spent equivalent of his restaurant staff salary on this game and the collab will happen.
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are you supposed to run luke with his bro lucas
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>>544269471
I don't think they could go that far with the graphic gore though
Seeing how the execution scenes are just shadows
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>>544270378
yeah, just now
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>>544270312
>People are more inclined to spend money on Stella Sora
This game is cooked
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>>544270312
Epic Rise
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>>544269627
What level is this unlocked
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>>544270330
>Do limited roll count carryover to the next?
Yes
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>>544270312
>66% JP
Why do the japs love to slurp shit so much?
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>>544270268
Then he would have leveled Cassius too for the free pull! Like I said, can’t fool me
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>>544270312
Well well well
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>>544270302
>Rena screaming USO DA when mind broken
KINOOOOOO
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>>544270312
>50% of downloads
>only 16% of revenues
I hate gooks so fucking much it's unreal
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>>544270487
lolis, that's it
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>>544270462
40
You can use your weekly tickets in here
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>>544270487
Because it's all waifu game. CZN simply lost to such simple fact
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>>544270312
>not even higher revenue in spite of their “APOLOGY” event with free pulls
Holy KEK that game is cooked
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>>544269948
oh shit very nice
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>>544270581
sanjay...
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Dammit my salvation instincts are in overdrive. This girl is stronger than me and can turn monsters into porcupines with her knives. I still want to protect her
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For all the fags spending on sora is it even half as fun as gaydes
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Did I fucked up by choosing this game instead of Stella Sora or DNA?
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>>544270406
Yeah, but also he needs crit. His whole play style revolves around it
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>>544269342
/bag/, /zzz/ and some other general had massive splits
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>>544270540
There's barely any loli in stella sora tho? All the good combatants are titty and even the current and next character are titty with like 1-2 token lolis as filler characters. Actually grinds my gears so much seeing retards call it a cunny game purely because it has the blue archive style without even playing at the game or looking at the character roster.
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stella sora is a yuriCHAD game, you homoslurpers can stay in this dying furrym*le infested kusoge
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>>544270312
>Doesn't include Taiwan and Hong Kong sales
Oh yeah Stella Sora is getting smoke
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>>544270487
Gambling addiction, I remember they didn't like it when Ananta wouldn't implement the Gacha system
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>>544270406
Funny enough Lucas is only good with Luke but Luke would much rather like Khalipe (AoE + shields) and a normal support that Lucas' weak ass 40% pops every Handgun Bullet. Maybe they become really good once you max out Lucas' potentials though since from what I understand it would like double the DMG of RPG7
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>>544270674
No
>>544270686
No

t. Anon in the verge of fully dropping Stella Sora because I’m barrly doing anything there while Chaos Zero Nightmare became my addiction
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>>544270268
>you get a pull at 20
kek thank fuck i'm not the only one doing this
>>544270104
i read that as navel arena kek
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>>544270674
Its closer to Megabonk (Vampire Survivors) than it is Hades. It's... okay, kind of a grind to play repeating same four boss patterns for 4 minutes without falling asleep. The auto is also atrocious.
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>>544270746
Gfg nikke are others to note
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>>544270818
Phew, glad I made the right choice
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Honestly, if DNA replaced gacha with slow farming and the gameplay loop gets stale, I'm going back to CZN.
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>>544270674
I'm playing it but it's auto-battle slop 80% of the time... The roguelite is very simplified
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>>544270186
PGR. They are already collabing with Morimens which is basically the same thing as CZN
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>>544270935
Use the character's own card. This doesn't work if you use your character's card, use someone else's card then use your combo card.
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>>544269627
30to40 takes forever. this should have been unlocked on 30
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>>544270674
Comparing it to hades is an insult to hades. Hades is a real roguelike with action and shit.

Stella Sora is more like a watered down Shironeko/Dragalia that pretends to be roguelite but there's minimal RNG and gameplay. I'd kill for a Hades with cute girls instead of western trash but that's definitely not it.
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>>544270312
I spent over $200 in CZN but didn't even bother getting the monthly in Stella Sora because of the dogshit the pull economy and cost per pull.
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>>544270686
>SS
Cucked beyond belief from being yostar
>DNA
Literally just go play warframr atp
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>>544270310
based
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>>544271063
Gimme $100 bro, I'll play with your penis
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How the fuck do you do stage 7 of dimensional dawn under 12 turns? How do I deal with the fag that gives me burn cards
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>>544270668
Best girl
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>>544263462
how do you get these types of accounts. Just rerolling for at least 3 5 stars minimum?
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>>544270956
>They are already collabing with Morimens
Huh since when? Never heard of this before.
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>>544270312
>korea is half the downloads but only 15% of the revenue
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what character is worth rerolling for?
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>>544271248
They're cheap as us pagpags
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>>544271248
Korea is a pedophile nation's
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>>544271248
Blame Owen.
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>>544270674
It's auto combat slop with spongy enemies, dumb down rogue like elements, and boring bosses
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>>544263462
>I need to decide which account i will buy the monthly and BP, so which one would (you) choose?
Left easily since much better characters
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>>544271304
mei/hugo
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>>544270542
>already spend 2 of them
FUCKa
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how do I get an SSR shielder
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>>544271248
It was like this before, not sure why they decided to only play now
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>>544271347
>Bro play stella sora its a cunny game!!
>Every on field character is titty and every small character is a support
Dude I hate chinks so fucking much
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>>544271371
You will not get to level 40 in a week unless you are burning gems.
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>>544271347
I thought this was supposed to be a Loli game?
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>>544271063
based
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>>544271304
If pure versatility I’d say Veronica since she can be slotted as sub-DPS support hybrid in a lot of compos
If wife, Renoa is pretty much the closest to a canon wife the game has
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>>544270439
I'm entirely willing to whale, it's just atm there's no reason to whale. I'm not particularly interested in haru. I have working teams and no resources to push a new character up from 0. Haru's weapon is kinda shit. What am I gonna spend money on besides the BP? I'll probably buy the monthly bundles near the end of the timer I guess.
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>>544270186
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>>544271248
Shouldn't have put gayfaggots in the game. Enjoy breaking even if at all.
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>>544271440
They gotta check out to see if NTR is in the game bwo
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>>544271459
I'm actually fucking annoyed the first two banners are cowtits. Also the design of the swimsuit bunny hag is kinda mind.
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>>544271485
It was never a loli game, that was fake advertising because retards saw the blue archive style and automatically assumed it'd be a loli game. But the average person can't compete with yostar's insane marketing budget so they're just riding the misconception for free profit.
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>>544271440
Dev listened moment i guess
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>>544271440
>Before and after they address the Owen shit
LMFAO
Are they that easy?
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This card effect is usually permanent for that battle once you use it right?
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>>544271223
Both accounts got 2 5* initially. But yes, i did reroll for both of them.
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>>544271538
I knew it, they love NTR and just hate posting to hide it
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>>544271519
>collabing with a ntr heavy franchise
This would be so funny but would also instantly kill the game
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What is the quickest way to get corrupted save data for counseling?
Yes I'm grinding the level 7 affection with gem refresh.
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>>544271519
I came buckets to her in the hentai and VN
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Just downloaded today. What the fuck is the issue with Owen?
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>>544271563
Yeah, I probably would have stuck around or reluctantly played if it was actually a loli game like Blue Archive since there's not a lot of options for loli games but they couldn't even get that right. If the characters are shit, gameplay is shit and monetization/gameplay is shit then there's no reason for me to ever touch that dumpsterfire.

CZN is worse in the loli department but at least the gameplay is extremely fun and engaging so I can just adjust my expectations and play it for gameplay rather than cute girls.
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>>544271580
The one on the right turns it into a skill which means it's only when you have the card. It's a better benefit but it only works when you have the card. BUT it does remove the unique keyword meaning you can get multiple of them.
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Stella Sora is a tit-chad game? I regret not touching it until this very moment
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>>544271580
Yeah, that's the "upgrade" card type on top. You see the right card turns into "skill" and gets the syntax "For 1 turn" to specify duration. The right one also looks really good though being ap positive because of the divine epi. Plus you can dupe.
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>>544271440
>16% Indonesia
Sorabwos mind explaining some things?
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>>544271685
Go to the highest level possible deep trauma Chaos. Simple as that.
Purposely keep botching up the stress so it piles up and let yourself suffer a game over to Link Crash
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>>544271685
There's a level 10 mission at the next level have fun
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>[Event] SS Nightmare Boarding Verification Event
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11135032?boardKey=139240&combined=false
Kek what a scam of an event
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>>544271726
He's new to the job
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>>544271726
He fucked Mika and Tressa and then disguised himself as a space pirate and raped Rin
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>>544271436
Perform the Magna / Khelipe summoning ritual
>>544271529
They weren’t paying shit before either
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>>544271580
upgrade is permanent. skill depends
that godcard is a brick
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>>544271529
why are gooks so many gooks downloading a gayfaggot game?
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>>544271824
Huh? There's no way this is real
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>>544271809
You WILL make a Stove account
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>>544271783
SEAchad run this board
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Wait since all limited characters get moved to the standard banner once their time is up, is it worth it to convert the currency into the standard banner if you're not interested in the limited character?
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>team fully capable beating stage
>auto just spamming heal over 12 turns
FUCK KIM SAMSUNG
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>>544271892
are you retarded
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>>544271726
He keeps talking and showing up near the girls so the koreans went crazy claiming he is cucking them and is more of a protagonist than (You). They then pulled up a bunch of other server dislogues including weird ones like Renoa going ??? in KR but going ..! in Global to prove over therr the girld are colder but here they are warmer towards (You) and they are getting sabotaged snd NTR’d
No kidding they really fucking did that
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>>544271726
some cucks are making AI images of Owen fucking their waifus and then cry about NTR.
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>>544271892
It is real I was there
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>>544271842
None of their women are touching them so as an evolutionary response they’re becoming gay
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>>544271892
It's real, I was one of the space pirates.
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>>544271726
You guys must be joking twink like that make them scared?
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>>544262602
i have this weapon accessory that forces enlightenment does that proc every chaos round?
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>>544271809
>4.5k replies
There's that many players willing to do this shit?
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>>544271978
looking at kpop i thought they already were
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>>544271945
What the fuck is wrong with Korean men lmao
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>>544271945
There should be a mental illness contest between gooks and chinks to see who comes up as king schizo

Feel like it'd be really close between the gooks offended by pinching hand emoji and the rabid ML incels
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>>544272025
Yes
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>>544271892
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The game should keep nightmare mode on if that's what you ran last time. I keep running normal mode by accident and having to escape when I realize too late.
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>>544272096
Wait so the cucking is okay in Korea as long as they're a tranny? What the fuck
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how do I change the policy members??
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>>544271893
I already made one for epic 7. Which honestly felt like a mistake but eh. It had like 3 good stories until they didn't know what to do with Ras. I should actually finish the stories to get Raz's divinity form.
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>>544271758
Kinda
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>>544271945
This is the end game of feminism btw.
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>>544272118
They need to release a FUCKING survey which is what most gacha launches do and it’s almost been a week plus without a feedback survey
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This game is surprisingly popular amongst Jewtubers, even an HSR fags like Kekvin made a video about CZN recently
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>>544272175
>Auto-advance in progress
Peak gameplay
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>>544272107
Cheesa, I paid $500 to book your ass to S6 so you better not be late.
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>>544272175
it's like they want to make and BA then pussy out and add huge knockers to every character...
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>>544272131
Nyes
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Ahem.
I LOVE RIN!
That's all.
Thanks for reading.
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>>544272228
What game is she from
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>>544272227
Its a limited resource
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>>544272096
As much as I hate NTR, I can't even imagine myself stooping to the level of these Korean motherfuckers
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>>544270186
Morimens for the funnies
>Collabs with Morimens
>Morimen characters as collab combatants
>Twist gimmick is that they actually benefit from being mindbroken, being able to use play cards and having boosted stats
>but on autopilot
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>>544272067
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anyone figure it out how to bypass stove launcher yet?
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>>544270312
Imagine listening to gooks LMAO
They're only 15% of the revenue but complain nonstop about NTR this NTR that every day all day
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>>544271467
I'm already 36 though
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Man, discord trannies are raiding this place hard now.
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>>544272441
Damn nigga you're old
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>>544272308
Wuwa
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Koreans = make funny memes
Americans = 0 memes and 0 fanart
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Who raped her?
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>>544272245
Don't get me started. My favorite gameplay character is a typical cowtit nun, I don't mind her because her bond stories are cute but I would rather not.
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>>544272476
I look like this and act like this
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>>544272428
I wonder what's going on inside the mind of your average Korean guys on a daily basis
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Reminder if you're rerolling, to use a VPN to create your stove account in japan.
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>>544262748
Owen...
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Come play Stella Sora bwo... You can book yourself a bit tittied school girl for the night...
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>>544272457
yeah it's a bit obvious.
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>>544272428
Yeah the problem is they can literally stab the devs just like almost what happened with hoyo. Complainfags can be more than rabid and worse if they're near (you)
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>>544272554
Nothing happened for limbus though just two limpdicked gooks went into their building
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>>544272490
She's just exhausted from our daily missionary session, no big deal
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>>544272538
But I like the gameplay of czn more.
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>>544272428
>Saying this
>While using stelletroon pic
lmao
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>>544272457
Yeah, all this male complaining is so annoying. Wish they’d just go back ong frfr
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>>544272267
Based
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4* partner look more unique than Haru, what the fuck happen bros
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>>544272441
Yeah it takes about 12 60 stamina runs to get a single level now. Unless they give out more tears there's no way you'll get that much in just a week.
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>>544267756
>no one would say having a capable MC who's competent at their job who the other characters occasionally flirt with would be going too far and would appease 90% of pandering fags
wuwa did this and global gacha fandogs treat the game like an antichrist
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>>544272538
Uma is offering free daily 10-rolls so I'd rather play that instead of getting fucked over by retarded chinks
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>>544272638
>Flat chest
Get the fuck out of here, this is a tit-chad game
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>>544272638
looks like garbage
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>>544272484
I don’t get it…
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What is this NTR game *fap* *fap* *fap* Owen is literally fucking Renoa *fap* *fap* *fap* I hate feminists so much *cums* *cums* *cums* I hate CZN so much
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>>544272698
do you always type like you're 12 or is this just an ESL thing?
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Everyone wants fucking Mika aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Premium AP support when???
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>>544272725
2 inch pinch dick moment
Only REAL KOREANS will get it
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>>544272725
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>>544272780
is a pagpag thing, let him be
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>>544272830
KEK
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>>544270068
bwo?
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>>544272490
There still next to zero Rule34 stuff for CZN. Its kinda sad.
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>>544272781
Euphina
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>>544272853
*It's
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>turned Haru into an AOE monster with insane single-target as well
Okay, she is growing on me. Still, her seiyuu is so annoying
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More cow tits when?
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>>544272928
Lewd games don't get fanarts. Logically why would anyone draw lewd fanarts if there's already lewd in the game itself?
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>>544272974
I'm cumming
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>>544272725
koreans are obsessed with other men having sex with their women and emasculating them as much as possible.
it's a cultural thing idgi either but it's just how they roll. like how americans are obsessed with black men's penises.
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>>544272989
Nikke does
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>>544272686
>Uma is offering free daily 10-rolls
I just logged in and there is no 10 rolls, why are you lying?
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>>544272989
Your Nikke???
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>>544272989
No one drew a rabi yet either I’m going to try drawing an orlea or rin rabi though but if I do the former I’d need to draw all her summons too
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>>544272686
its a single pull bwo
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>>544272780
>White
>Pedophile
I'm starting to see a pattern here...
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bro
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regardless of Owen, post-prologue SKK is just written like a pathetic betacuck despite his supposed status as a veteran SKK
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>>544272510
>I wonder what's going on inside the mind of your average Korean guys on a daily basis
it's just /pol/ if they ran an entire nation. it's odd other asians don't make fun of koreans more because they somehow consistently beat out japan in being pathetic betas.
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>>544273059
>>544273110
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>>544273117
I'm not white and I'm a pedophile, now shut the fuck up
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>>544273052
>>544273073
Nikke's brand:fanart ratio is actually pretty bad. At some point it was the top 3 best-selling gacha games but ZZZ the failure of Mihoyo has twice the amount of fanarts.
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>>544273150
>the pro-homo seethe is coming for chinkoids
It all makes sense now.
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>>544273174
FUAAAAAAAAAARK
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>>544273052
>>544273073
I'm saying it right now, Nikke doujins are mediocre as fuck. It belongs in the same mid tier as AK.
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>>544273174
>support banner
genuinely why are gacha game devs so fucking greedy? your game is bleeding players to the point it might EoS before anniversary and they still can't give a uma banner 10 pull?
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>didn't care about Haru
>did her event battle stages (character showcase)
>really enjoyed SMASHING and NUKING monsters with anchot shot
Now I want her but I only have enough gems to reach 50/50 and there's a possiblity of getting spooked by a penis character AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Also, do I just use all my orange rescue item? seems like that item is exclusively for Normal summon only?
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>>544273174
>Single for characters
>10 for cards and it starting next month
lol
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Unironically this thread should be screenshotted to korean 4chan. Let them see how we are making fun of these korean "men" and their pindicks
Imagine being born with a 2 inch dick and having the balls to bitch and moan lmao. Subhuman behavior
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>>544273261
Are they really going EOS?
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>>544273261
the fuck are you on? free 100 rolls on the banner everyone was telling you to roll for months is amazing
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>>544272630
>that damage
HOLY
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Why are gooks like this? And the story quality is basically so bad I’d opt for a ground up rewrite instead and actually add world building and make it believable that jks are fighting eldritch horrors
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>>544273074
Rin is trash. Do someone usable at least. Not the worst 5 in the game.
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>>544273291
Do it yourself and post iy there
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>>544273306
>the fuck are you on? free 100 rolls on the banner everyone was telling you to roll for months is amazing
and what banner is that? I just wanted Manhattan Cafe man I don't need more supports.
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should i bother with zero system ?
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>>544273380
Lemme handle your zero system babe
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>>544273319
I hope they rewrite everything and make me play the story again without resetting our progress for more xtals
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>>544273380
>should I bother with HIGH save data value
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>>544272538
I'm busy fucking my hagwife though
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>>544273362
I don't speak gook language bro
If I can I would post screenshots there 24/7 just to make fun of them
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>>544273485
>high value
>underlevel
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>>544273319
>Gooks and Chinks go berserk over the most retarded shit
>Japanese just goon to loli while region locking all their game

Can't believe Japan won by doing nothing, again.
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>>544273380
DO NOT TOUCH THE ZERO SYSTEM. IT MESSES WITH YOUR MIND.
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>>544273319
They should stop updating the story until they can find better writers. Current storyline is a trainwreck, but we're only at chapter 5 so it's not like things are beyond saving.
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>>544273319
Eh, it will be fine. Just throw in coomer baits and more guro/ryona/mindbreak plot focus
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>>544273291
>let them see that the discord raider homofujofurfags are having a melty after realizing they aren't the target audience
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>>544273319
>tfw I was one of the anons theorizing there were at least 2 writers including a lovecraftian fanatic to justify the really good scenario and Chaos but differences to plot
Huh
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>>544273529
Funny part is, they have eldrich gods, chaos and mind wiping. They can literally do full on story reset and keep it lore accurate.
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>>544273526
The only decent nipge gacha in the past 3 years that released globally with good gameplay and story are just wizdaph and objectively HBR as I had more fun with that than hsr despite dropping the game soon after from a reroll binge which id like to come back to actually.
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>>544273319
People would've join the crusade if those gooks didn't bring up their made up cuck narrative, instead of focusing on the story quality they choose to get mad at their own delusion.
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game just needs to bd2maxx
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>>544273319
just rewrite the whole shit from the start

the story literally pleases no one
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>>544273693
Yeah and I do think they will but just like bd2 they will do it too late.
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>>544273659
A full-on retcon would be a bad look. They should just continue.
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>7pm in jakarta
>thread sudden has a bunch of story CONCERNERS
>gameplay discussion comes to a halt
I'm noticing...
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Wolfbro got me the lvl4 chaos win. Now my mika has 3 +1AP -6stress cards
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>>544273693
>>544273746
>BD2maxx
You mean remove all gameplay and add actual NTR where every girl is in a relationship with someone that isn't you?
Yeah that sounds like an amazing idea
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>It was all a chaos simulation
>Owen was but a figment of our imagination
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Why is she so hesitant?
She's closest to the captain... right?
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>>544273795
I'm from the philippines though...
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>>544273319
>Owen was the product of the previous writers
It all makes sense now...
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>>544273319
Ok that fucking sucks if true
I was hopeful for the story when they announced wanting to make it darker but not anymore
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>>544273319
The story is okay so far.
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>>544273319
>It's another episode of gook chuds coming up with nonsense conspiracy theories for why a thing sucks instead of just plain old incompetence
The story quality is about as bad as everything else in this game that isn't the gameplay. It's not really enough to justify thinking "behind the scenes" shit happened when it's just the devs obviously being amateurs.
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>>544273746
it'll filter all the tards posting itt so eh, plus they recovered nicely
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>>544273659
>>544273717
>origin of chaos shows up
>"alright i think i'm bored of this story"
>*casually deletes the entire universe*
>story starts up again but this time it's all fucked
Diabolus Ex Machina would be pretty great honestly
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>>544273319
>Renoa Trauma
Yeah knew that was a different dude
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>chapter 6
>it was all a simulation
>owen rei mika and renoa are mindbroken without possible repair
>with the zero system you could return to a point of the past with the help of an eldritch god that infiltrated the simulation
>you have to sacrifice one aspect of yourself
Would you clap?
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>>544273878
Oh yeah? Recite Jollibee's secret formula right now.
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>>544273795
It's 8 PM in Malaysia right now
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we just need go full PSO, we will fight dark falz eldritch demon space god
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>>544273840
>Ike, Lightoning Dingo!
>Ike, Lightoning Dingo!
>Ike, Lightoning Dingo!
>Ike, Lightoning Dingo!
>Ike, Lightoning Dingo!
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>>544272676
wuwa is exclusively played by ex-hoyo contrarians
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>>544273954
Nah, we have multiple gods, and one of them is apparently good.
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>>544273659
This actually make more sense
The reason why The Empire doing everything to protect Protos is because he have unique ability that let time control by using the chaos gods power.
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>>544273693
god no keep that astroturfed garbage out of here
I'm so fucking sick of seeing cunts on twitter like Pirat Nation or ShitpostRock making nonstop shill threads on /v/ for that shitty gook autobattler that people fall for just because it has sexy animations. Even autobattlers have more gameplay since that garbage is just paying to get cucked.
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>>544273970
Is it actually good I’ve read it being good and bad and I keep buying research permits so can’t check
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>>544273795
the story is genuinely bad(and also AI translated) there's no reason to defend it.
i was promised an edgy lovecraftian psychological horror and instead got a boring slice of life in space.
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>>544272538
>>544272610
I'm so happy there's finally a gooner game with gameplay I actually like. For years I've been watching other people with their Genshins and their Nikkes and their ZZZs and their Uma Musumes and I'm sitting over here like an idiot with slay the spire and balatro and LBoL just seething. Now I can finally have fun and goon at the same time.
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>>544272492
>China censors the fuck out of CZN
>This fat titty cow gets through just fine
I really don't understand censorship
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>544273618
No yous for shit and lazy bait!
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>>544274076
>Paying
ngl I've pulled every character for the past 2 years without spending anything. The game is dupe driven but base characters you get from just them shoving currency down your throat. Gameplay's like 90% gear management though and the rest is puzzle gaming.
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>>544274028
>wuwa is exclusively played by ex-hoyo contrarians
>the game and entire kurogames are literally kept alive by pure hatred to hoyo games
s-sugoi...
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>>544274079
Its the only story bit that hooked me. Fast forwarded through everything else
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Wait I’m reminded the original story pvs for the game sounded like an eternal regression story where the mc keeps fucking up and would regress like how i recall the second mc in orv is like
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>>544272638
a lot of the partner art is definitely human drawn, it's in the same style as the CGs, it's just the full character art that's sloppa for some reason
>>544272510
>>544273150
SK has no moral culture, there are no long standing religion backed traditions, habits, or customs
it's a rat maze built by the US on neoliberalism and it's pure misery
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>>544274131
how can people see designs like this or maribel and say
>mmmm yes I love my psychological horror game

It was clear it was always going to be a gooner game
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>>544274140
play chrono ark
it isn't gooner but its this game without the gacha basically.
also based LBoL enjoyer
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>>544274165
>censor the foreign competition
>enable your own companies to capitalize on the goon
Yeah
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>>544273795
Yeah, we know, you make that same post multiple times a day.
Funny that you're ALWAYS posting during SEAhours btw.
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SEAgods runs this board, bow to us
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>>544274238
don't worry they'll fuck off after a couple banners show that they're not welcome here.
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>>544274165
It's called age rating
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>>544274140
>LBoL
Any good? I avoid early access games but it seems pretty far along. Also check this out
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3052450/Morimens/
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chaos 4 4
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>>544274238
it can be both
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>>544274252
I like tiddies though and devs putting a little effort into some personality behind the characters to sell them to me.
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Another game where guns are present and my sole question is: bayonet character when?
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>>544274348
Does a gallery of all these exist somewhere?
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So, I’ve been prioritizing the research mats whenever the shop opened up
Thing is after averting the first disaster a second disaster happens right after and the thresholds are colossal now
Should I buy the high ranked policies instead?
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>>544274191
this but actually unironically
girls will go from an abusive guy to a guy that hits them once per week less often and think they're in heaven
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>>544274181
Yeah if the puzzles were just
>Did you roll for this specific character?
>Do you have their important dupes?
>Did you gear them properly?
Picked up that garbage because it kept getting shilled and it's an insult to videogames. To add insult to injury, the thread and community is just actual literal retards throwing meltdowns over underage characters as a whole, not even just loli.
Even bigger disappointment than Stella Sora that people just slurp because of sexy animations that you only see a few times.
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>>544274238
Just watch a trailer or any of the nightmare mode losses animation where characters are dragged to iron maiden or crushed to a pulp?
Game has fanservice, that's it. Gooner games are ML slop. This game is for ryona chads.
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>>544274227
Something like this. I did this with low data save but the basics really don't add anything too it. You will need cassius or rei to get his upgrades but this is the strongest build I managed. Dingo Howling is all that he really needs to get to max stacks with a few skill cards.
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>>544274252
Had way too much tedious shit for me and really uninteresting meta progression
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bwos... i dont think im going to get to pet this cat :(
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>>544274227
Most of his card epiphanies are a trap. You don't want to lose Hunting Instinct's Outbreak of War, for example. Most of them can also transform your cards into upgrade cards, which could be great if you want to cycle other cards more quickly, but he'd do nothing for the first 2 turns. Quick Fix with draw 2 is definitely one of his stronger cards, so you should consider copying that.
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>>544274385
nta
chrono ark characters are more endearing than anything you'll find here
also they have coomer swimsuit/bunny girl outfit dlcs
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>>544274252
>it isn't gooner
I gooned to Lucy though? She went through so many loops that she definitely got raped more than a dozen times for sure.
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>>544270186
You know what? I'd take a Youjo Senki collab
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>>544274238
>le gooner word
go back
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>>544274385
Chrono Ark has more fanservice dlc and there are workshop mods if you want it more nsfw
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>>544274252
I tried it but it didn't "hook" me. It's an indescribable nonquantifiable thing a game either has or doesn't have. I've never been able to determine what causes it. Every game I've ever played has either been for 2 hours or 700+ and there's no inbetween.
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>>544272974
>>544274365
https://x.com/misorasyu/status/1982330431870820630
Blue bra
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>>544274515
The versions that lose outbreak of war are usually stronger. If you use someone who shuffles or tutors it out of the deck it's 100% worth getting a version that does an extra hit.
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>>544274568
I can see that. They’d all be unfortunately impulse mindbreak and season 2 is rumored to release around early 2026
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Well I was having a hard time deciding between my 6 5* account and my other account with 5 different 5* and a LB1 Rin but I just got another copy of Rin in that account just 20 pulls in.
I won't even bother playing with the other account anymore. It's clear I have been chosen for a greater purpose. I must show everyone my wife is the very best. Sorry Magna, I will get you with the selector.
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>>544274564
for me it's her
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>>544274545
Chrono ark was fun gameplay wise but disappointing in the character department. Fuck you mean that I can't make a full flat team or full loli game?
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>>544274603
the spoils
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>>544274495
save me niggerman
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I might have leveled too many characters...
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>>544262602
ARE THOSE

Nope, baited. Well played, OP.
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Is Haru's 2nd dupe worth gunning for?
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>>544273261
>your game is bleeding players to the point it might EoS before anniversary and they still can't give a uma banner 10 pull?
the game that's topping JP charts trivially despite having zero costs since it's barely 3d and has no open world?
the game that hit #1 for revenue on steam as the only game beating out dota/csgo and the only costs are a couple writers and a new VA every week?
support banner pulls are better anyway, get powerful cards during anni and then you just save pulls for who you like lol
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>>544274458
Having started around Granhildr release when it still had some jrpg roots, early to mid game was some decent organizing groups into 3x3 and then fixing up teams to both satisfy that condition and move units around to dodge enemy attack patterns. These days it's all about pulling new units for one turn clears. I should sell my account at some point but I'm a little lazy and still like looking at my characters while logging in for daily pulls. Game definitely went downhill after Bunny Loen though.
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>>544274191
Just look at their ecelebs majority of them are people who get outcasted by the community so they change their grift target.
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>>544274252
Problem with Chrono Ark is that the whole run is easy and then you hit the absurd difficulty spike in the form of the final final final boss.
I've beaten it once and then didn't bother at all.
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>>544274617
Right, they're strong but not that much stronger. I'd rather not experience the hassle of having to cycle cards with Nia or Cassius. I found him to be better off as a card cycler himself (through upgrade cards, Quick Fix, and Dingo Howling) especially since Tressa usually ends up with 9 cards herself.
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Why are all the giga coomer gachas Korean???
>Nikke
>Horizon Walker
>Last Origin
>Brown Dust
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>>544274351
I think it's really good. It's not quite as "deep" as something like StS, especially the events are really limited and repetitive. But for the mana system is really innovative and adds a ton of replayability and a build crafting aspect. It's like a built in prismatic shard relic. Basically after you defeat an act boss, you can gain access to their "color" mana and those color cards appear in rewards screens just like prismatic shard. It's really rewarding finding busted builds that mix and match different color cards.
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Saving a deck after a successful run for other content really is genius. Hope it becomes a roguelite staple
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>le coomer word
go back
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anyone droppin their rolls into the partner banner??
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rerolling in this game is so ass man...
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>>544274773
>Having started around Granhildr release when it still had some jrpg roots, early to mid game was some decent organizing groups into 3x3 and then fixing up teams to both satisfy that condition and move units around to dodge enemy attack patterns.
Yeah, that's why I'm disappointed. The game actually had a cool JRPG story and actual gameplay but somewhere along the line they just devolved into selling lewds while crippling both story and gameplay. Which is a shame because I really liked how the story felt like a classic JRPG story and the 3x3 gameplay had actual strategy instead of just unit checks.

Can't imagine the sort of retard that would spend hundreds of dollars in skins for that game when there's zero content or gameplay to even use them on.
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>>544275005
>gooner
>coomer
>fapper
Take your pick
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>>544274545
I might check it out if I wasn't having fun on CZN and I also enjoy some ryona. I took a peek at the art and it feels a little mspaint/newgrounds... but could be worth giving it a try. Maybe another time. tfti
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>>544275001
a roguelite staple is not having other content other than the normal deckbuilding mode
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>>544274915
Repressed sexuality or how everything is censored there leading to those gachas and nsfw manhwa culture idk the term they also made BA btw mandatory 2 year military service repressing their sexual urges would be a cause too the biggest degenerate lolicon on xitter mammoth/dorontabi was revealed to be korean too
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>>544262226
>>544262226
>>544262226
RECYCLE
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>>544275001
and then the data FUCKS you up
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Kill yourself seafaggot.
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>>544275086
fuck off
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>>544275086
fuck off
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>>544274915
Last Origin is a giga coomer game with no males and still had several NTR dramas btw.

Koreans are just fucked like that.
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>>544275086
no
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>>544275038
The spineless MC going batshit insane and killing everyone on his corruption arc was actual jrpg sovl. The Justia flashback chapter was actually decent writing too. Shame it's all lost now, but good on them for quadrupling their revenue since the dark days. Nice to find a kindred spirit on here.
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>>544275086
Fuck off schizo
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>>544274915
Horizon Walker dev said it on interview as long you're not showing genital and nipples everything are safe, that's how BD2 can get away with borderline porn
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Could be worse
Could be cockposting again
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>>544275052
chrono ark is an indie game made by very few people so set your expectations lower
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>>544275086
nigger, here's your (You), stop shitting the OP
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>>544275009
Seems like a trap
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>>544274895
I tend to use him with kayron so my goals tend to be different. The build though tends to be insane. I have a move that gives vulnerability two which then procs with a max stack hugo for 500 damage +200 follow up attack.
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>>544275110
This should also be added to the roguelite staple
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>>544275195
She hasn’t came yet… neither has kommy and I have all the eldynes now.
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>>544275052
it's an indie game and it does show but it doesn't have issues and works well
the gameplay is extremely solid and the story is extremely solid, surprisingly not too korean-esque for having korean devs
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>>544275209
Good shout, now back to getting my ass raped in this gold 49 codex. Might be the worse mod I've encountered so far.
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>>544275326
>>544275326
>>544275326
Added the deckbuilder people mentioned
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Loli Renoa...
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>>544275185
The chapter with song of olivier was peak kino. Especially with the song playing on the background.
Shame they decided that story doesn't sell and just went full porn afterwards, guess gacha gamers just want to consume the slop and masturbate instead of play an actual game.
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why are there so many branches on Renoa's trauma story
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>>544275361
Nigger you fucked up the links
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Someone make a new thread, I don't want to use the shitposter one
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>>544275207
no one in here has a cock, otherwise they would have posted it already
women are the biggest ryona enjoyers
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Guess I’ll make a pastebin for bread making since everyone keeps fucking up for the next thread
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>>544275449
>women are the biggest ryona enjoyers
The fact that delusional people actually believe that is so funny to me
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are crystals only worth to spend in banners?
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>>544275393
what links? the yt guide?
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>>544275393
Fuck
Wait no they were already fucked in this thread
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What does it say about this thread that only the furfag got the links correctly
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Does manifest ego not apply retroactively to older save files? That's retarded if true
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>>544275361
Here's the ACTUAL thread.

FIXED youtube links. Stop being retards holy shit.

>>544275614
>>544275614
>>544275614
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>>544273030
Is that because they were kept under the heel of the chinese for centuries?
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/10DFJL9PGhmY3Ss5Y7cWcVDiZoIn56L1IfT4MPMMMsj0/edit?usp=sharing

Opinions? do you want me to continue since recomended team are asked often?
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>>544276142
I'd love to see more about suggested Epiphanies too.

I was trying to build a Kayron team but no idea how to even play the guy or what to get him.
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don't post anything interesting in the new thread(s), I'm skipping until you've sorted yourselves out
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>>544273987
Use Khalipe, Mika, Beryl
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>>544271023
Calling the designs in Hades trash should be grounds for webm related
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>>544277517
>vitiligo goddess
>zesty grandpa god of time
come on I just want a real anime roguelike instead of the garbage that is stella sora
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>>544270439
Only japs are retarded enough to do so.
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>use deluge for one AP
>get one wave now, one later
>three waves is one AP
what's the point?
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>>544277517
they are beyond trash, worst part of an otherwise exceptional product
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>>544274140
What's LBoL
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>>544279882
Deluge is an upgrade card, you only need to cast it once and you'll get 1 Wave per turn
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>>544262602
erm is this kronii



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