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>News
03/10/2025: Bronzebeard Classic+ (BBC+) by Project Ascension has released.
02/10/2025: Tauri WoD is out
09/09/2025: Kaytoted BTFO'd by C&D, Ascension took over Epoch.
30/08/2025 : Blizzard is taking legal action against Turtle: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127/gov.uscourts.cacd.985127.1.0.pdf

>Released Servers
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en (BBC+, Classless, Reborn Classic+, Custom Classes/CoA, Epoch)
Chromiecraft - https://www.chromiecraft.com/en/ (PVE, progressive)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (WoD on Legion client, Legion content coming soon)
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Warmane - https://www.warmane.com/ (TBC, WOTLK, MoP)

>Guilds
To join a guild, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, and whisper anyone for an invite.
<gulag> - Tauri, Evermoon realm, Alliance
<Evil> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, crossfaction
<Branded> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, ERP guild >>>/trash/heals
<Sisters of the Sunwell> - Turtle Wow, Ambershire, High Elf females only

>Turtle
All Turtle addons (copy & paste github links on the launcher) - https://turtle-wow.fandom.com/wiki/Addons
Misc - https://database.turtle-wow.org | https://talents.turtle-wow.org | https://twow.link/classchanges | https://turtle-timer.vercel.app

>Mods, Tutorials and /wpsg/ Creations
https://pastebin.com/4Awe3bxX (embed)

>VERY important links
https://catbox.moe/c/f2o09z
https://catbox.moe/c/1ebph1

>Previous Thread
>>544024595
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>>544331398
Javel...
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Uuhm tauribros?
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>>544331398
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Thats a big crash...
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Tauri...
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Which Mage spec is the most fun in Legion brehs
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>>544332587
arcane
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How's Bronzebeard doing nowadays?
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>>544332564
Cancer
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>>544332809
dead
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>>544332809
dying
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>>544332587
arcane seems to be the top pick, but i liked frost
spamming blizzards and frost orbs everywhere really made me feel like playing a diablo 2 frost sorceress again
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>>544332809
It has so many players that the general can't make a guild.
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Every time I see someone with their relationship set to "Committed" it's a reminder that I'm a broken person incapable of forming connections. I used to be clingy and now I push everyone away.
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any good pserver?
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Did you guys really only have 3 threads in the 2 weeks I left or what? And why is someone claiming I got boosted in <Evil>? Evil gave me 0 help, that guild is a clique that only helps each others
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>>544332809
Here is a guild I joined.
Only 13 people have logged in the past 24 hours.
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>>544334124
tauri
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>>544334194
We literally saw screencaps of silkfang in a dungeon with a 60 from <Evil>
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Realistically, I think Epoch is dead.
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>>544334525
>3/138
IT LAUNCHED THIS MONTH
WHAT HAPPENED??
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>>544334626
Zzzz schizo, you're not even funny or entertaining
I'll go back playing games
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>>544334830
>I'll go back playing games
ESL ESL ESL
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>>544334803
It's a meme server, people just woke up from their honeymoon.
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>>544334194
Silkfang received a gold boost at level 40 from several <Evil> players. FACT!
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>>544335960

>It's a meme server

are we going to pretend unironically raiding the same MC/BWL/AQ/Naxx for the 11th time isn't the actual meme?

why play turtle when classic era exists?
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>>544336670
>redditspace
also, you are going to be running BWL but with an extra mechanic and 1000x HP with a billion particles on the screen
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>>544336670
Cuz there's an anon guild
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>>544332725
>>544333232
Isn't arcane like a literal 3 button spec in legion
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>>544337213
thats based
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>>544332809
More alive than these threads lmao
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Guess I was the only reason those threads were ever alive
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Poochies eternally seething
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>>544336670
>>are we going to pretend unironically raiding the same MC/BWL/AQ/Naxx for the 11th time isn't the actual meme?
no?
BBC+,Turtle and blizzlike cookie cutter 1x vanilla server 5000 are all memes
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>>544339252
kys faggot and crawl back to where you came from
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>>544336670
>why play turtle when classic era exists?
imagine paying for an inferior product
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>>544334803
The server doesn't appeal to anybody, ascension players love it but they do not care to play vanilla, vanilla players play it hoping it will be good but it's just more ascension infinite bloat
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all ascension servers are dogshit and i spammed pics of my panda solely to stop people from playing on them so that (You) can't make an ascension guild
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>>544342046
That's so funny, Dutch.
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If bbc is dying why aren't the servers merged yet?
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>>544337486
You guys genuinely find something that simple fun? How, I'm OK with simple specs but Arcane Mage is wayyyyy too damn easy
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I leveled up to 60 on ambershire, got bored and quit. Then leveled up to 60 on bbc, got bored and quit.
I lasted 2-3 more days at 60 on turtle.

>>544342410
whether it's simple or not involved more than just the number of buttons. I don't know about legion but arcane post wotlk was built around mana management, where by playing optimally you end every fight with 0 mana my managing your arcane blast buffs with ideal efficiency. There aren't many buttons involved but the balancing act is pretty engaging and requires a lot of skill to do at a high level.
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>>544342410
>>544342618
Basically playing arcane is like grinding in a tony hawk game, unironically one of the best caster concepts they ever did.
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I can't tell if this shit is genuine or not. I know, I know,
>Chinese
But come on just look at him
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>>544342410
Class rotations weren't very exciting to start with, but now the game has become more about how you move around. Different classes mostly just offer different styles of doing the same basic actions. From what I've seen, Legion dps mainly boils down to pressing three buttons—one to generate power, one to spend it—with some element of chance involved.
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>>544343692
looks like ascension to me
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>join bg
>its nothing but esl twinks screeching at you for not being gods at pvp like them
>they go back to whining in world that bg's are dead
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Anyone wanna jerk off and play Turtle?
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why does <Evil> keep talking about trannies?
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>>544345790
Name and race?
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>>544346327
Niwi, Human
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Outlawbros, is pic rel really a massive downgrade over Alacrity and does it not get its cooldown reduced by the two cooldown reducing effects the spec has?
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>>544346716
it's good for burst damage, but alacrity is just overall better for damage
it's not a massive downgrade
>is it affected by cooldown reduce effects
yes it is
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>>544333776
Hey
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trying to do pvp really makes you realize how absurdly poorly designed this game is, you have a trillion things to keep track of and the game has by default either no way or extremely poor ways to convey this information
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>>544338748
SOVL
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I find tanking during leveling much easier than tanking when I hit max level. But why?
Successfully tanked Dragonmaw with my fury warrior and didn't have any trouble. I just put on a shield. We even had two under leveled characters and we cleared everything without a single wipe.
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>>544348678
Hey...
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>>544349830
Wanna meet?
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>>544342046
lmao, you're beyond delusional if you think some retard spamming a panda is the reason a bronzebeard guild wasn't formed.
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>>544349769
The game starts at max level. You are no longer getting carried by talent bonus intended for endgame encounters. Gear progression slows. Thats why specializations should be better.
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>>544349769
bear here and I can't tank at all, sure I don't die but holding threat is a fucking nightmare
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>>544350062
Tell me about yourself!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNtZ1vGYacE
It's over.
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>>544354252
buy an ad
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>ally just dropping spoilers left and right in global chat
the fuck is this
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>>544356782
snape kills admiral taylor at level 96
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>>544353515
I'm a shaman
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>>544331398
SEXO SOURCE?
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I think one of the major problems of disc priest in legion is that you have a cooldown which does literally nothing.
The only use case ever for this spell is pressing it so you see your character float in midair for 8 seconds.
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>>544334194
without a thread schizo our posts barely exists it's pretty sad but this is the truth of wpsg.
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should i play BBC+?
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gnomes should be able to be paladins, shamans, and druids.
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>>544358147
>druids
Only if they transform into tiny insects or some crap
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gnomes should be deleted from the game imo thoughts?
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>>544360080
>thoughts?
I think you should kill yourself you piece of shit.
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>>544360227
whoa take it easy bro
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>>544360080
absolute facts, joke races shouldn't be playable. Alliance should have been human, nelf, dwarves and high elves from day one. gnomes are a shitty race in general even for a joke race, they have to play the high tech gnome shit for comedy because if it was taken seriously it would undermine the entire setting, and that ends up in the worst of both worlds.
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>>544360609
He has a short temper, excuse him
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Turtle worth playing? BBC+ wasn't it, and yeah the Ascension whales+shop is the reason.
and the fact it's the same fucking thing as classic but with worldforged shit, which is kino, but falls flat at 60.
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>>544346716
The class just benefits way too much from haste for it to ever be better than alacrity imo. On top of the clear damage and energy regen buffs it helps reduce the negative effects of RNG while buffing the already strong aspects of it. Meanwhile cannonball is like 1 extra run through finisher every 40 seconds or so on a class that can do it every three seconds already
I don't have any logs from waaay back but I doubt it was even close
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>>544360749
Someone mad.
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>>544360749
>Alliance should have been human, nelf, dwarves and high elves from day one
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they did things like this. The game has been overwhelmingly dominated by horde since burning crusade added blood elves right? And that directly led to pvp becoming unfixably broken since every decent player had to be horde to find other decent players to work with.
Adding races is such a light lift compared to adding classes, they probably should have been adding races much more frequently in patches.
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blows my mind blizzard still hasn't made ogres playable
they make up gay fanfic shit like dracthyr and vulpera instead while ogres have been requested from the beginning
adding high elves but with aids instead of just high elves was an odd choice as well
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>>544360749
The gnome thing is especially bad because they undercut the fact that dwarves are supposed to be master craftsmen. Because gnomes are so one dimensionally associated with the wacky cartoon techno stuff they end up responsible for every technological thing in the setting, even things that should be feasible in a fantasy medieval setting like siege engines. That leaves dwarves with only smithing swords and armor and shit as a niche which is incredibly lame compared to what they are supposed to be capable of like the giant dam in loch modan.
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>>544361267
I was thinking of trying BBC+ what's wrong with it?
my opinion on turtle is, if you want a more authentic vanilla that's kinda rough around the edges in some areas. Yea go for turtles custom content ranges from good to kinda retarded but it's the only server I've seen make entirely new zones that do feel like they belong in the world.
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>>544360749
dwarves and high elves are joke races thoughbeit
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>>544361910
None but two of the people working at blizzard now even realize that ogres were a part of the horde.
The reason blizzard didn't just give the alliance high elves? I don't actually know, I would put it down to spite, I feel like blizzard miss a lot of opportunities to do things that would make thematic sense because very few people care about anything but pushing political agendas at the company these days.
To you or me, ignoring classic races that have a lot of lore and player interest is bad. But to them, why would they want to do that when they could add a furry race, or a scalie race or a female dwarf with beards but colourful stones so they can like Steven universe because someone on the dev team likes that queer bait show.
Even now, the trolls you get are basically the noble savage but done again, probably because someone recently saw James Cameron's avatar.
Also we have clear insight on how blizzard makes characters, blizzard don't make races to make sense with the lore, they make it because this is what they think is important when you want to add characters to your game.
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>>544363194
They didn't add high elves because two elf races in Vanilla would've been retarded. Gnomes (half-dwarfs) were late additions so they didn't even get their own starting zone.

Blood Elves made a lot of sense. Horde had less players because they had no beautiful race. You might not like it, but adding BE in Burning Crusade was a brilliant decision to fix that imbalance.
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>wake up at 6am for no reason
It's just one of those days..
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>>544363194
damn niggaz are only worth 2 diversity points? who's above them fucking sentinelese aborigines?
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High elves shouldn’t be playable.
The vast majority of the remaining high elves left Azeroth and became blood elves.
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wake up sweaty it's time for your daily elite rare circuit
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You know what race shouldn't be playable? Your favorite one.
Fuck you.
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Time stop garbage should not be tagged "emotionless sex". A girl being emotionless because she's fucking frozen in time is obviously not the same as a girl being emotionless as her demeanor.
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>>544364626
gnomes nuked themselves to death and their only permanent settlement is a broom closet in ironforge and they are playable.
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>>544369187
Gnomes shouldn’t be playable either. They’re barely in the games prior.
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>>544370019
It's strange that there were gnomes in WC2 (flying machine and the submarine) but zero mention of them in WC3.
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>>544370019
what would you have as an alliance race to replace them then if you are also against high elves, night elves were also a stretch so what do you want, just humans and dwarves?

the forsaken as a faction concept is completely retarded on many levels even ignoring the peak of retardation in their joining the horde, so I would cut them first personally.

The fact is that it would have been way, way easier to make high elves work on alliance in vanilla than blood elves on horde.
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>>544372384
I wouldn’t do two faction faggotry to begin with. Shit forever ruined mmos.
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>>544372878
It's the basis of the entire setting, orcs and humans ya know. people are always talking about having a third faction or totally freeform factions but they never have any good ideas for how to actually make that work in practice. The "let's all cooperate to defeat le ancient ebil" plots are universally the worst dogshit in warcraft too.

I think trying to make the factions a group of equals in a political union was a problem with the story. The setting should primarily focus on the conflict between the orcs and humans since they are the largest most capable factions that are diametrically opposed, all the other races should be tagging along for the ride on either the orc or human side because they are comparatively far weaker.

With that kind of arrangement, where entire races are not pledging themselves to be part of a political alliance but instead opportunistically working with the major powers, it's much easier to come up with plausible stories for allied races. It doesn't make much sense for the night elves to join the alliance, but if they are just tagging along against a common enemy in the orcs it works better. Same for the forsaken on the horde. Then apply this concept to any other race in the setting.
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>>544373383
This would also allow you to write more internal tension in the factions, e.g. the horde makes an alliance of convenience with the forsaken solely for the purpose of projecting power in the eastern kingdoms but neither side trusts each other and is constantly spying on the other. It would let you have each individual race faction pursue its own goals without also having to come up with an excuse when their goals don't coincide with those of the humans or orcs. There's a tremendous amount of latitude to write stories there that could save you from having to write marvel avengers bullshit where everybody joins hands to go fight the galactic empire in space then goes into literal hell afterwards to fight literal satan.
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*dabs on gnome haters*
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>>544357271
It's another way to spread atonement.
What i don't understand is Clarity of Will.
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>>544361910
>The Alliance has countered our ogres with mounted knights, a strategy that served them well in the Second War.
a race btfo'd by horses.
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>>544373383
Warcraft III was four factions. Five counting the blood elves.
Going back to two for an mmo was retarded and led to every mmo following this bad design choice.
The game doesn’t even focus on Orcs versus Humans that much. Hell the original battlegrounds are Orc vs Night Elf, Human vs Forsaken, and Orc vs Dwarves.
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>>544334741
Reading the cope on their subreddit is hilarious tho.
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>>544377035
>Warcraft III was four factions. Five counting the blood elves.
It was also a single player game, something so totally divorced from an mmo that it's completely useless to compare them. There are already critical issues with the game from broken faction balance with only 2, if you tried to have 4 or 5 or more factions instead, it would be virtually guaranteed that at least some of them and probably all but one of them would quickly die.

if you are going to have factions at all, it's asinine to have any more than 2. You can come up with all the idea's guy theories you want about the fantastical grand multi-faction mmo but practical concerns of the players would decimate all of your plans immediately. The same reason why AV failed, it's literally never played the way the original devs intended, it's either a 6 minute boss rush or a totally chaotic shitshow that drags forever. You simply can't get large numbers of random strangers to play together with literally ANY degree of coordination.
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>>544377486
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It was also a single player game
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>>544377927
single player as in one person plays one faction in opposition to other players, NOT 10+ random strangers playing on a team against 10+ other random strangers on a team with each being a part of a faction of thousands of people.
If you have a handful of people you can play warcraft 3 to its full potential, you need hundreds of people to play wow in the intended way and likely more than that, and the second that fails you literally cannot play the game on a meaningful level without extremely heavy handed interference by the developers. Once one faction becomes dominant on a server, world pvp goes extinct. Raiding on the dead faction is effectively extinct because the pool of other players to raid with is so small.

That's how you end up with servers that are 99% dominated by one faction. This is already a gigantic issue with only 2 factions, now imagine how impossibly difficult it would be to try spinning those plates when you have 5 factions.
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When did Bassy join <Evil>?
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>>544378310
>world pvp goes extinct
Nobody gives a shit about your minigames
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>>544379024
got benched by fight club then did mc week 1 with who did it then got perma benched by them and joined evil for week 2
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>>544379647
just to get mogged by flag, its like this one rothschild daughter that ended up on facial abuse.
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>>544380967
he was bragging in the thread about not being in an anon guild too
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>>544381746
maybe we can say that being Flag's relief toy doesn't count as being in the guild?
would that make him happy?
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<gulag>
tauri
alliance
we NEED mages and shamans
now!
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would you plap bassy bussy
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where my epoch bros at?
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>>544385829
BURNING IN HELL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO PAY FOR YOUR ARROGANCE HAHAHAAHAHAHA
WHERE'S THE TURTLE KILLER NOW? HUH? HUH? HUH? BURNING IN HELL FOR THE SIN OF PRIDE!!!
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>>544385829
kek
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All I need is one whiff of Shenna's feet and I will have the strength to defeat thousands of Blizzard employees in the inevitable conflict...
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>>544385921
>>544386123
what the hell? why u guys hatin? i just wanna play with my epochbros...
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>>544385058
Bassy is that typical loud, mouthy brat that desperately keeps his act up in hopes of some horde player snapping and brutally raping him for hours. Basically just like Femboysocks and Belwynn.
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>>544354252
I'm glad I experienced all there was to experience about Twow phase 1
The server is kind of poorly scripted, sfx and impact sounds are all out of place, it doesn't feel like I'm playing WoW at all

In the end it's really just a scam server and all the dislikes on this video has to be from some shill/bots

I'm currently lvl 60 on wow-hc and even with just 100 concurrent players, it's way more fun
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>>544387207
I love you.
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>>544387102
is bassy into male resto shaman trolls?
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>>544387207
I love you so much
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>>544378310
With multiple player factions, you don’t get one majority faction. Instead you get a minority majority. You also see smaller gaps between faction populations. This occurs because you’re spreading players across more than just two factions.
Additionally, what has also historically happened in multiple player faction games, minority teams team up against the minority majority, evening the odds. You can’t do that in a two faction system.
Ultimately if Wow were three faction or four or five faction, it’d be a better game. Instead it’s two faction and you have 90/10 servers. The worst part? People saw Wow’s success and copied it wholesale, including its faults. Even Warhammer Online oafishly went two faction when the setting itself is opposed to it, all because they were afraid to do what Wow didn’t and change the formula.
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>>544388008
>>544388421
You know nothing about me, your love is like an indian to me
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>>544388457
You are everything to me I love you so much
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>>544388457
I love you like an Indian loves curry
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Hehe, hes here now too... we should get back to playing league together, the god duo
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>>544385829
Hello, I'm leveling an alt currently
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>>544388457
Based
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>>544351143
How? All you need to do is swipe? You have like a three button rotation at best.
>>544350854
So certain classes are just doomed to be bad at max level because their specializations dictate what they will become?
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Epog died?
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not trying to bait or anything, honestly curious - what is considered the best private server to play nowadays if I only care about classic (vanila) or classic+? there's so many of them. or not the best but what has the largest community? /v/ leads me to believe it's Turtle but on /vg/ ascensions seems very popular?
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>>544387207
>wow-hc
I have a level 58 shaman there, but haven't played in a very long time. It's a good server really, I enjoyed a lot my time there, but it was mostly a solo experience, which made me burn out a few times and take breaks.
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>>544391981
classic+ is dead
>ascension
LMAO
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>>544392019
Get your last 2 levels and join the raids, there is like 4 raids every week and it's cross faction
The ambiance has been sweet so far, no ESL russians or weirdoes
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>>544391981
Turtle is the most popular and stable vanilla+; Epoch is in a coma hopefully revived at some point; BB is retoilet set in the vanilla world, seems like popular as well.
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>>544391981
BBC+. Turtle is retarded fanfic garbage that plays like if Vanilla had been designed by pajeets, and Epoch is dead.
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>>544392136
I love you
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>>544391981
Vanilla+ is a joke. The shit they add always sucks. Just download a repack and run a proper vanilla server with bots and maybe a few friends.
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My gf and I waiting for legion on Tauri
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>>544392584
>BBC+
>has blood elves
>they start in undead starting zone
>not fanfic
ahaha
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>blood elves
>fanfic
He didn’t play Warcraft III and thought it was a single player game.
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>>544392136
I was aproached by the guy organizing the raids and was asked to heal, but I hate healing in vanilla. That's vanilla shaman I suppose. Still I'm busy with other servers at the moment, but the option is still there.
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>>544391981
wow-hc
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>>544391981
BBC+ or Twow. Both have big communities at the moment but BBC+ may die in a few months if the hype turns out to just be hype
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>>544393027
TBC was fanfic and Metzen was retconning shit
You can't say Turdle is fanfic, when Ascension has TBC races.
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>>544392853
Man, that thing looks fucking hideous. Absolutely disgusting. Horrible.
The worgen's OK though I guess.
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>Tauri
>Gundrak
>Got disconnect before last boss
>re-log in
>disconnect at 100%
>repeat
>same shit
>Unstuck character on website helped
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>>544393812
crossrealm server crash
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>>544393886
I can login with other toons tho
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>>544393750
and that's why it's blizzlike!
who doesn't love The Black Cock!
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>anon seriously thinks blood elves were invented for tbc
What a tard
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>>544394013
Blood elves are for Tauren Big Cock, yes
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>>544394050
>crashed
Oh ok, thank you mister and have a nice day.
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>>544394013
THE blood elves are in outland following Kael'thas.
THE TBC blood elves are in azeroth in their kingdom, SOMEHOW
despite being super genocided
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>Tauren Big Cock
And the retard is ESL!
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>>544394253
Always knew Silkfang is addicted to BLACKED stuff
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>>544394187
And the night elves aren’t in the Alliance.
Vanilla Wow is fanfic.
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Why Tauri cannot make autojoin for global/world chat? I see many people find out at late levels of these channels.
Like Felsong did, propose to join custom channels with yours fresh characters.
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for me it's nelf female + worgen male
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>>544394360
yep, I agree.
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DWARF PUSSY!!!!!!
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>>544394486
>for me it's nelf female + worg male
ftfy
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>>544394360
Yep. Wow should have had Night Elves as their own faction with playable Furblogs and Dryads/Keepers.
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>>544394486
For me it's nelf futa + helf female
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Worg male x tauren male. Disregard every other ship as fake and gay.
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For me it's male human farmer + female elf racist
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>>544392136
I love you so much, you mean everything to me
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>>544395052
Dostor...
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>>544395052
I missed you Dostor.
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>>544395123
Me on the right...
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>ywn grease up for a friendly wrestle with dostor and work up a real sweat testing your glistening muscles against his
feels bad man
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>>544395123
These are so unfunny where does that even apply? I can't think of a single movie or anime where this applies.
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>>544395704
Female high elves in <Evil> do this.
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>>544395581
That's good. Have a headpat.
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>>544395314
Wassup ma dude
>>544395503
I still lurk here every once in a while when I get bored at work. How's wow private servers been lately?
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>>544394486
for me it's nelf female + gnome male
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>>544395782
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>>544395982
>How's wow private servers been lately?
Pretty gay and not in the good way.
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>>544396139
>Pretty gay and not in the good way.
Yeah that tracks. I tried playing some Ambie but only got to about level 16 before realizing "wait a minute i aint having fun."
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>list of guilds you could join that are objectively better than <Evil>
<who did it>
<Pug Raid>
<Cursed>
<Fight Club>
<EzClap>
<IKEA>
<Vanguard>
<revSEAsia> (yes a fucking chink guild)
<Hyljatud>
<Amnesia>
<Relentless>
<Pull on Five>
<Kerhunde>
<Envy>
<unzip THUD>
>list of guilds you could join that are subjectively better than <Evil>
Every other guild
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>>544394187
>despite being super genocided
not canon
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>>544396604
It's just more Turtle Wow. Not sure how some people have 60's on both Nordanaar and Ambershire. But at the same time there's no good alternative server.
It's a part of why this thread is so damn dead outside when Silkfang was trolling and doxxing Aecheur. There's just nothing really going on. It's all so boring.
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Tauren x tauren male. Disregard every other ship as fake and gay.
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>>544396845
t. Silkfang seething
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>>544396845
I will now join <OwO>
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>>544396845
where <Pochie patrol>?
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Tauren males are made to bottom for futa dicks, actually
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>>544396845
I’m in <Pull on Five> along with one other anon who knows who I am right now and as long as you aren’t super bad at the game you could get a raid spot. It’s a pretty good guild, and people don’t care if you say faggot or nigger.
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>>544397107
>It's just more Turtle Wow. Not sure how some people have 60's on both Nordanaar and Ambershire.
I'll probably start playing again one day or another when my periodical WoW itch flares up again. Controversial opinion but I really like Turtle, its the only pserv that actually lets me recapture that feeling of exploring around in a janky early 2000's mmo. I just ain't feeling WoW at the moment.
>>544397176
Preach sister!
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>>544396845
Evil is the only guild without shamans though, the list is shorter
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I love you so much Sillu.
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>>544397176
Incorrect

Worgen women
Human men

It's that simple
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>>544398017
>guild without shaman
Bad guild
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>>544398332
>A bad guild is top 16 despite the self-imposed handicaps
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>>544398332
Guild without shaman are only based if they are alliance only.
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I'm the strongest <Evil> member.
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>>544398017
all the shamans quit because guildmates didn't help them
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>>544398407
Top 16 is only top 30% on Ambershire.
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>>544398542
Deca...
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>>544398407
the self imposed handicaps being
>not helping guild members
>not doing content together
>raidlogging
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>>544398590
take off the helmet...
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Redpill me on Silkfang V. Aecheur
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>>544396845
<unzip THUD>
(YOU ARE HERE)
<Arbeitsamt>
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>>544397176
>Tfw no sloppy, masculine kissing
fuck my chud life i suppose
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>>544398937
Why should I
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>>544396845
Every guild being able to do MC in 2 hours or less is proof that Twow is just a 4fun low stake server
No thanks

Still funny that 4channers are so bad that they are worse than normies
What's the point of crying about normies constantly if you are worse than them?
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>>544400950
The many casual guilds that can't clear the raid in a day don't show up on the logs
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now that the dust has settled does epoch go down in pserver history as one of great blunders?
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>>544402572
unfortunate timing with the lawsuit
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>>544396845
>at least 50 guilds are better than <evil>
PFFFFFFFFTTTTT
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>>544398017
>>544398332
bwo your yahben?
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>>544401293
He is retarded and ragebaiting at the same time.
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>>544396005
>>544395123
I really like these and find them funny.
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>50+ guild able to do MC in 2 hours or less is proof that the balance is wack
>[completely unrelated comment that doesn't change anything I said]
>h-he's ragebaiting!

I'm literally a human being with pigeons trying to argue with me constantly
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>>544398407
>top 16
Which is to say they're 16th place, which is nothing. It's not even a bronze medal.
>self-imposed handicaps
This is just a cope.
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>>544404224
counter point I think mc being unbalanced is a good thing becasue it's a shit raid. but yeah comparing normal MC times to the funserver that is turtle wow seems silly.
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>>544404357
Molten Core should provide some challenge on a FRESH server. The fact that good guilds were clearing it in an hour (not <Evil>, who took two days to clear it) kind of shows how easy-mode the server is.
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>>544404224
Come here *kisses your face* haha *cuddles you* I love you pumpkin
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>>544404616
I agree to an extent, shenna shadownerfing mc to give vanilla cryboomers an ego boost might be the smartest way to keep the legion of dad gammers who play turtle happy.
they already made autism content in the form of kara40.
I agree on a typical server this would be a red flag or maybe it would have been when people still cared about this during nost era, now people think they're so good at the game they can psyop themselves into think it's normal they cleared mc so easily and thats probably intentional from the devs. you're more likely to donate if you have mc on farm.
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>>544404156
Same.
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>>544391981
Turtle is the best vanilla+, Bronzebeard plays like retail- and I couldn't stand it.
Unfortunately there is a very good chance Turtle won't be here in 30-90 days due to the lawsuit. Nobody knows what the vanilla+ pserver landscape will be like once Turtle shuts down.
Will Shenna roll another server under another shell company and different brand?
Will someone else stealth drop a Turtle successor?
Will Ascension revive Epoch?
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This is some Pokemon level bullshit.
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>>544405741
omw to steal your berries faggot
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>>544405741
>berry picker tribe
not even worth to throw stone at
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ok this one was funny
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>>544405741
Not even worth it. The berries sell for as low as the seeds.
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>>544406458
let me guess, this shelly is a woman from russia
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>>544406190
not funny, didnt laugh
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>You will never a wom- ACK!!!
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>>544408891
Are those masks from the new zone on turtle?
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>>544404224
Are you retarded? The median MC clear time on classic anniversary phase 1 was around 40 minutes with the top 50 guilds clearing it in under 20 minutes.
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>>544398407
Turtle is full of dad gamer shitters and people playing for the first time, in my brief time on ambershire i have noticed that the players are even worse than on nordanaar.
If you have played vanilla wow before then you already are a seasoned veteran on turtlewow.
Not being able to field a single shaman already is a very bad sign, even FMC despite all its flaws didn't struggle this much.
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>>544410728
Prove to me right now that the top 50 guilds on phase 1 of MC cleared MC in under 20 minutes
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>>544410978
>open WarcraftLogs
>go to guild speed ranking
>check MC
>select phase 1 only
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>>544411102
I'm waiting for the screenshot
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>>544410978
Are you actually retarded?
Why am i asking, im either talking to silkcuck or the alynatranny, both have no clue how to play the game beyond leveling content.
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>>544410417
lol
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>>544405672
What if someone remade a new vanilla+ server based on the leaked turtle code? It's only 1 year old and would be a better base than anything else.
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>>544411884
>based on the leaked turtle code
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Yeah I just checked, there is no 50 guilds with sub 20 minutes MC clear in phase 1 on Classic

Why did blub lies? + 50 guild on Twow = almost the entire server
50 guild on classic = 1% of the population
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>>544411948
gooning rn
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Turtle's unique starting zones are just so shit
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>>544413968
there is not a single """plus""" addition on troondle thats actually good
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>>544413968
I disagree
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1.12 client is good
High Elf start is good
Tauri is shit
You're brown
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>>544414428
Most of the old custom content on turtle is shit, only some of the newish stuff is ok or good.
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>>544414507
so fucking hot
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>>544414428
The plus is the moderation and GDKP bans which Blizzard classic lacked. Despite Turtles best efforts to ruin it with their amateurish additions Classic WoW was so excellent it shines through.
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>>544411884
it's better to just start from something like azerothcore and work from there
wrath client isn't the greatest, but it's better than vanilla
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>>544414507
>>544411948
Thank you king.
I'm going to roll a gnome mage today.
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>>544417267
onahole
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>>544417267
40 pounds of tits and ass
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>>544411208
i'm not the guy you argued with but i went ahead and checked what he said, seems about right
now go kill yourself you subhuman nigger or did you already get bullied out of the thread you moved on to after shitting up wpsg?
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>>544417267
Thank you for your service. I will make a gnome hunter, although I wish Turtle had gnome priests...
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>>544418998
Seems about right?
You only posted 11, he said 50
Can you scroll down more?
LMAO
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>>544420608
spot 50 is 22:25 go kill yourself you inbred nigger ape
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>>544392853
What guild are you in?
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>>544421734
Is 22:25 under 20 or above 20? Can you tell me?
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>>544417267
mage gnome is not fun
do warlock
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>>544422678
>"heh it's 2 minutes off that means i win!"
for someone who claims to be oh so pro when it comes to raiding vanilla you were comically unaware of P1 MC being cleared in sub 20 minutes at all
go kill yourself you subhuman fr*nch shitstain and shit up another thread you somali rapebaby
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>there is 50 guilds on classic clearing MC in under 20 minutes in phase 1!
>no there isn't
>o-okay there isnt but you never raided and you're wrong and you're bad and blablablablabla
Just be humble and say "I was wrong, I'm sorry"...
You're talking to a speedrunner who cleared all of vanilla in record speed with the best guilds out there since Nostalrius and Light's Hope...
You're talking to someone who can beat Ninja Gaiden NES... It's fine to be humbled by me
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why does turtle attract the most delusional players?
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>>544423567
cool
post a screenshot
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>>544424059
Here
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>old people
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>>544423942
it's one mentally ill shitter spending 18 hours a day samefagging in various threads about how great he is without ever providing proofs
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I have a friend playing arms warrior in pve/pvp and he's noticing other arms warriors tend to be doing better damage than him, especially in pvp, despite him having bonereaver's edge
here's a build I made for him that I think might be usable, but does anyone have any suggestions? It could be advice for his rotation too - I don't know turtle warrior all that well, this is just my initial suggestion on what might be good for him to swap to
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>>544425824
2h fury for bre
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>>544426592
what does that look like? something like this?
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>>544425824
What could possibly make you think not taking faster slam is a good idea?
Tell him to slam more and take boomer voice instead of unbridled wrath
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>>544425824
the current "arms" warriors are just slamming with flurry, they dont actually use ms
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it's called shattrath because i shat all over it
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>>544427175
oh, that makes sense
so, um, something like this then?
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>>544428063
can you stop attentionwhoring, furry?
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>>544428558
they're feathers actually
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>>544428717
hes right
you are fucking cringe
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Grim state of affairs
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>>544432753
shouldn't this guy be like 50 now
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>Classiic hd: Goldshire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBjpgxAS9vQ
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>>544423567
>>544422678
I love you so much...
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>>544423567
What's your discord tag now? I wanna talk...
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>>544433407
check the discord friends with benefits thread on /trash/
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Guys, I think Therin from Evil is Therin from FMC
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>>544433945
That can't be true, the Therin from FMC is Birdbrained from <gulag>.
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Remember when Epoch thought they would btfo Turtle? Haha, good times
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Grud from FMC is Birdbrained in gulag
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>>544434387
nobody cares silkfang
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Remember when Ascension thought they would btfo Turtle? Haha, good times
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>>544434387
Therin is Grud? But I saw them both on at the same time. Was he multiboxing?
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Remember when Turtle thought they would btfo Blizzard? Haha, good times.
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Guys I have top secret insider info that Flag from Nordanaar is now known as Flag from Ambershire, don't tell anybody.
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>>544422678
You're so cute when you're angry
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>>544343692
average chinigger
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I'm lvl 13 1/2 on my hardcore slow and steady exhaustion high elf mage on ambie
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hahahaha did the janny finally crack down on the avatar shit?
Just took multiple weeks, but god is it worth it.
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>>544436861
I will give you 13 1/2 inches of tauren cock if you go meet me at the Crossroads tonight.
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>>544437187
This post was deleted due to complaints about the spoiling of Warlords of Draenor's amazing story.
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>bro I fuck dogs haha
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>>544437451
Tauren are a cuckold race in thrall to greenskin demons lmao
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>>544439315
why must you make brotherly bonds into your depraved sexual fantasies?
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>>544439090
What the hell. That's disgusting.
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>>544439491
Tauren betray their planet and ally with invasive demons that destroy nature.
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>>544439090
Guy can't even make it tasteful and not that obvious
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>>544439090
Based.
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FUCK i wasted my money resubbing to blizzard this month and cant listen to this stream, worse part is IM NOT EVEN PLAYING WOW I BASICALLYED WASTED MY MONEY
what's a good private server?
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>>544439767
how do you make dogsex tasteful?
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>>544439090
So why do all the zoomers want to fuck dogs man? Are the cartoons that bad nowadays?
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>queue as tank/heal/dps on my 60 pally on ambie
>look at world
>no queue or groups for what I want to do
>log out and try again tomorrow
>repeat
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>>544441442
Same. People are already raid logging in my guild.
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>>544441574
It's exactly what happened on onyxia vanilla, it just died....
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I'm thinking of playing wowie again

Should i choose turtle (new server?) or epoch?
If epoch, is the pvp server fine?

Will turtle really get shut down?
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>>544439090
God I wish that were me.
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>Epoch
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>>544441442
I constantly have people ask me to tank ZG/AQ20/Kara or farm some 5mans.
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>>544441819
Epoch is kill. Turtle is still thriving and nobody knows for certain but the outlook is good.
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>>544442224
is it really ded?
what happened?

all i know is that they messed the first release date and that everyone wanted to play. they they re-released it with the support from ascension
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>>544441819
dont fall for the amber scam
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>>544438905
king
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>>544441819
Tauri
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>>544435684
guh
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weird ass textbox out of nowhere with a tiny yrel that gets used nowhere else
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>>544442519
Ascension whole thing is buying out servers and letting them out to rot hoping that some of those players will try their own servers.
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>>544442570
>amber scam
qrd?
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>>544442519
Server actually launching 2 weeks after it originally launched when they finally managed to get stable, various bugs around classes and other stuff that didn't get fixed even with Ascension's help along with new ones popping up every reset, all the devs leaving especially Kaytotes when he got CoDed by Blizzard, any leftover devs not communicating about what the fate of Epoch is or really trying to update it outside of the latest one. some drama over people finding out about certain quests that gave limited rewards to people that found them that only Kaytote's friends knew about. Just some stuff to name a few which just led to people getting pissed and eventually giving up on the server.
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>>544443813
but why exactly is epoch dying? not enough content? or ascension monetization?
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>>544439090
As long as that dogfucker keeps topping charts they can do whatever they want.
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qrd on bronzebeard?
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>>544390910
Swipe does barely any threat gen.
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>>544443834
well fuck, it seemed really promising and on top of that the client wasn't vanilla trash

so i guess im going to play turtle's latest server, is it alive enough?
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>>544444309
Dog shit.
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Some of these custom mobs added to the new zones by the Turtle devs are really questionable. The naga myrmidons along the Gilneas shore hit for twice as hard as other mobs in the area and for some reason they do this instant cast uninterruptible frostbolt type attack that hits for 400 damage every few seconds. It's not hard to outheal if you know it's coming but I just died to one because I blinked and whoops half my health was deleted.
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>>544444309
It has layers, ergo it's shit.
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>>544445080
why is that bad? its not pvp
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>>544445164
>why is reducing the massive part of an mmo bad
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>>544445349
sorry that i prefer being able to kill a quest mob instead of waiting hours
dumb fuck retard
>muh must be able to see other peons around!
whats it matter to you? its not like you faggots even interact with others in open world, ive literally never had someone come up to me and start chatting while im questing
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>>544445349
>the massive part of an mmo bad
world pvp in wow is an afterthought and 99% of the time is an autistic gankfest perpetrated by nolifers
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>>544445528
>I'm an antisocial retard but I play mmos

>>544445594
Who said anything about wpvp?
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>>544443972
The server was released in a buggy state and without any raiding content. They fixed some of the bugs, but it's still quite buggy and there is nothing to do at 60. The only content on Epoch is leveling and some pvp. It's dead because it will never get updated.
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>>544444734
It's still pretty alive. Still suffers from the problem of no one plays tank so trying to do dungeons at times is just cancer to set up for at times
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>>544445528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_play
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>>544445821
>>I'm an antisocial retard but I play mmos
mmos are a digital version of real life (farm money, items, level up, progress etc)
sorry that i want to progress in a game built for progression
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>>544444920
if it makes even one 80 iq hardcore streamer CRASH OUT and go viral, mission accomplished
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>>544445897
>no one plays tank
but that's a problem in every single version of wow

and a huge part of it is that the rest of the group expect perfect tanks and start bitching if the tank doesn't pull enough.
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>>544443818
it was made to fish for the fresh fags disillusioned by epoch, it will get merged soon since the pop is already dropping, so youre just wasting IDs and can only rot in MC for 2 months.
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>>544447394
cope
nord is the one dying
nord will be merged soon into ambershire
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>>544447625
You will be sucking dicks for scarabs/bijous and pay a premium for crafts.
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should i roll orc fem rogue or und male rogue?
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>>544447625
lol
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>>544447625
they already said if either realm starts dying they will merge amber into nord
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>>544448590
How if Ambershite has its own raid roadmap?
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>>544449331
if either server dies ambie gets merged to nordie no butts
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>>544448479
wait a second, wasn't that a guy???
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>>544444920
Those frost bolt ones used to have no weapons and no magic spells. I noticed that when I leveled there back then. They were just hitting you with their bare fists.
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>>544449331
your amber characters will be moved to nord and you will be at the current progression level of nord
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>>544449331
it's precisely because it has its own roadmap that it would be the one to be merged back
you can't put someone with naxx gear in a server with no naxx, but you can easily put someone in MC gear in a fully progressed server
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>>544444720
Hm... maybe they changed that then? Or maybe it gets stronger later? As druid and paladin tank too in fact you have massive aoe threat that eclipses everything else.
If nothing else swipe then taunt and use marks.
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>>544449746
Paladin I get, but how the fuck do druids have any aoe threat at all, much less massive? Even tab swiping generates jack fucking shit.
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>>544449986
Hm... no idea. I never played druid that in-depth but I saw them tanking and druids are probably the second best tanks on turtle right now.
Maybe that is later when they hit max level?
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>>544446714
I just do it anyway and they can suck my nuts or find another tank
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>>544446714
I'm not a good tank but I like being useful, so I tank anyway especially while leveling.
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where are my pochie copers at?
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I lost the whip yet again, but at least I got a mount from weekly.
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>>544452332
grats
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>>544357242
here you go
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>>544440323
Options are either Turtle vanilla+ with shit client but good population and support; Bronzebeard retail in vanilla world, get ready to swipe; Tauri WoD (Legion soon tm) kinda buggy but there's a guild; and that's about it.
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>>544453746
Thanks anon, seems like a coinflip between turtle or tauri, bronzebeard sounds like hell.
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>>544452332
That's so funny Booticutie
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>>544449331
>he doesnt know
They planned to throw you into jaws of nordchuds since day 1
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>>544452332
I thought you stopped playing...
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I thought nord still had 6-7k players at peak? How the fuck is that considered dying?
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So it turns out the Obsidian Warbeads Reputation Quest doesn't exist on Tauri
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>>544458019
The current problem with Nord is that there are barely any new players or alts being made. Leveling dungeons and battlegrounds are hard to find. Early level 60 raids and dungeons are becoming rarer and harder to fill, and that is slowly creeping up to the bigger raids. There are constantly people who stop playing, but before, you always had new players to replace them. Now, it's no longer the case. Without new players, the server will die. The economy is also quite fucked since Ambershire was released. Shit like black lotus was above 40 gold at some point. They had to add weekly loot boxes with reagents and consumables because of that.
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>>544453252
bruh that's gay
her pp should be tiny and locked in a chastity cage
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Ambie is so dead I'm about to make a HC on Nord instead.
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<Evil> will be dead by BWL.
They are already bored and raidlogging.
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>>544439090
><Evil> isn’t just <Full Moon Company>
APOLOGIZE.
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>>544459539
uh no it wont ok
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>>544458910
That is not true, leveling my hunter i got plenty of groups.
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>>544439090
>COMMITTED TO A FUCKING DOG
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>classic+
>no new endgame content for people to do
>endgame dungeons are as easy as ever
>no reason to run them because raids are out
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>>544460618
shenna sends her regards
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>>544458910
>Shit like black lotus was above 40 gold
Because gromsblood became vendortrash and guess where a big amount of black lotus came from...
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>>544439090
Elafi... what's going on big guy...
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>>544460618
the + is the part where shamans are indestructible god-kings
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>>544458910
I found a group for ZF within minutes of queueing as dps the other week
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>>544461091
>gromsblood became vendortrash
qrd?
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>>544458910
imagine if you were a new player
which one would you rather play?
>the server that's progressed to naxx
or
>the server that's on MC
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>>544439090
https://database.turtle-wow.org/?item=80221

Wear this.
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>>544461316
titans flask got changed to need golden sansam instead of gromsblood.
guilds also dont blow through hundreds of demonslaying wiping in k40 anymore causing gromsblood to crash massively
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>>544455830
wtf based
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>>544459539
my guild will never die because if people try to leave I will go BEAST MODE on them
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>>544461192
How is that different from vanilla?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5TUfxeHQD-o
People spouting this shit on turtle are really exposing themselves as stinky noobs and they dont realize it.
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>big bronze cock has combo points on char
finally some proper qol in classic+
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where can I play tbc prepatch that actually has players?
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I'm angry.

ANGRY ABOUT JAJAs
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>>544461470
why..
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>2025 — October 29 Changelog
>https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?t=22642
>Blooming Bud healing now correctly avoids consuming resources or triggering other effects.
>Cloak of Flowing Fire, Tattered Orcish Shawl, Tattered Crimson Shabrack and Drape of Groldan can now be enchanted.
>Inventory type corrected for Shadowblaster.
>Krug Skullsplitter will no longer wound himself with Mortal Strike.
>Nippsy's Precision Rifle, Standard Grade Rifle, Beasthunter's Blunderbuss, Zan's Leperification Blaster, Slag Slugger and Waterlogged Blunderbuss now benefit from ammo pouches.
>Illusions will now be removed upon entering a battleground as well.
>Fixed the position of Mal'adaris so he no longer clips the cart.
>Fixed mobs being stuck inside Widow's Nest.
>Fixed several Corrupted Songflowers that were not functioning properly.
>Leaving the arena queue will no longer cause you to leave all battleground queues.
>A confirmation dialog now appears when changing blacksmithing specializations.
>New transmog items have been added to the shop and to NPCs Karlos Fieldings, Ostantino Villantes, Rixi Lamour, Riccarda Thillamore, Vivi McGoldings and Stella Verve.
>The cannon used in the quest Death From Below will no longer kill players during the naga attack phase.
>Dark Harvest no longer affects Affliction spells cast by other Warlocks.
>Pet Command Take Position can no longer be used while mounted.
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>>544462862
same bro, same.
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>>544463245
>New transmog items have been added to the shop and to NPCs Karlos Fieldings, Ostantino Villantes, Rixi Lamour, Riccarda Thillamore, Vivi McGoldings and Stella Verve.

Who/what/where are these toons? There are no results on the turtle database.
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>>544439090
>>544441342
>>544460553
Its peak white culture. Why do you think old germanic tribes wore wolf pelts on their heads? Its ingrained in our dna. They pray to Wodanz so that the wolves knot may find its way and gets stuck properly, because they believe it makes them more fertile. Its basic history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hIy6TRU8Tk
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>>544463245
when do they add blue programmer socks for turtle players who are looking to be slightly more masculine and still remain comfortable and warm?
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>>544463829
TRVTH NVKE
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Does anyone know if Turtle has a Spanish speaking hardcore community/guild?

I want to learn to speak Spanish and being kinda good at wow is probably my best way to get good at speaking the language if I can set the language to Español and be in a guild with Spanish speakers
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>>544464187
just join tauri wow and immerse yourself in the spanish latinx world
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>>544464592
You can't knot all of them...
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>>544331398
So now that most private servers are getting nuked...are people just going back to Classic Era or what?
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>>544464709
spp cmangos
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>>544461947
fmctroon...
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>>544464709
Why are pservers getting nuked

>>544464434
I mean do they have a hardcore mode?
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>>544464709
Hm... no clue. Would be too bad. But not gonna pay Blizzard. Fuck this kike-run company. Would cost them literal peanuts to hire proper GMs and do something about all the botting. Not to mention hire a tiny team that adds custom zones like Turtle does.
Instead they don't do anything and still pocket millions. Not to mention the current awful state of retail WoW.
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>>544465069
>I mean do they have a hardcore mode?
no but its full of latinx
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>>544465069
the last month or two blizz has been cracking down hard on pservers, particularly all these new 'classic+' themed servers. Most people think its because Blizz will be announcing their own Classic+ next year some time, after MoP ends.
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>>544464592
And where the fuck is that?
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>>544464709
>>544465146
fire up classic spp
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>>544465270
>everyone is helpful
>no shitskins
>no ninjalooters
>no whiners
>no raidloggers
We are coming home.
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>>544465157
I want to play hardcore but not have to give blizzard any money. I did enough of the standard playing and just want something I can play from time to time and not get sucked in and addicted again

>>544465194
What are the odds turtle gets shut down?
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>>544439090
>average slavic woman
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>>544465738
slavic "women" dont exist
they are all transgenders
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>>544462131
Wow what's next, gonna post a drakedog video and say destruction warlocks are OP?
Videos of crits mean nothing, I wasn't running around dreading having to fight shamans in actual vanilla.
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>>544466004
Find it kind of ridiculous that US courts are taking this seriously if I'm honest.
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>>544465738
but there is no monkey there
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>>544466480
I'm sure you do because you've never created anything in your life so someone just stealing your creation and profiting off of it isn't a concern for you.
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>>544466480
they are taking the developers who are in Europe or USA to court
sure, they will not get shenna. but they will cripple development
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>>544465421
>What are the odds turtle gets shut down
Unlikely because the scammers behind it are in Russia, however the server could be gutted by losing their NA/EU based staff to the point where it becomes dysfunctional and Shenna/Croge decide to run with money.
>>544465194
>>544465146
Even if they truly cracked down on botting and boosting (they won't) Blizzard servers will always be dogshit because their community has been conditioned to minmax the fun out of everything after decades of abuse on retail. Literal millions of minmaxing parse zombies who treat the game like a second job, making it their duty to ensure you don't have fun when playing the game. Even when I was good at the game in BFA and parsed orange logs while having top 100 dps warrior in EU in .io score I couldn't get invites outside my premade over way more dogshit rogues and dhs because "I wasn't playing the right class".

I'd gladly trade one boomer gopnik playing exclusively on private servers with the passion and the child-like wonder for 10 retoilet/SoD tourists who troon out the moment you don't take the solved 20 yo game as seriously as them.
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>>544466676
bro thats just evil
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>>544466619
That's not really what this is. If you really feel like supporting Blizzard and you want to play classic you can do that. People don't want to support Blizzard because they're mistreating their own creation and customers, while others are just making better versions of it.
They're also not forcing anyone to pay a monthly subscription or pay for server transfers. Can't really blame people that get treated badly not receiving the service they like to see. So they look for alternatives.
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>>544466619
intellectual property is the most retarded and jewish concept ever invented and has done incalculable damage to human culture by commodifying storytelling.
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>>544466925
>Crogge
he is german and blizzard is trying to subpoena his information
>a lawyer representing Turtle has entered
THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY ON FIGHTING THIS
SHENNASISTERS??? CALIFORNIA LAWYERS ARE NOT CHEAP
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>>544466004
>>544466925
Hmm not great odds desu. 12% is alot higher than I'd like when it comes to investing a significant amount of time

But are there Spanish guilds there or no? I wouldn't care if my stuff got wiped I just want to get better at a new language
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>>544467224
Shenna is scared of losing the developers. But surely they have realized that all of this is pointless.
Blizzard has shuffled between judges and found one that's in their favor.
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the latinx are ddosing bbc because its ran by WHITE AMERICARYAN MEN.
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>>544467224
so wtf will their argument be??
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>>544467472
If turtle goes down you don't have to worry about investing anytime in a vanilla + server. no other vanilla + servers are worth playing.
also all other servers might be fucked.
We saw it with nintendo when they started hitting all the switch emulators, if they slam dunk turtle ascension or warmane might be next.
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>>544466619
Anon, 99% of people in current Blizzard are not
responsible for the original "creation"
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I think I'll play on Tauri. But I sure as fuck won't play as alliance when the peak player pop is like 1200 horde and 700 alliance. I always do this to myself and then suffer. It's time to accept the fact that outside of the Wotlk - MoP era this game has a massive horde bias and good/minmaxing players roll horde.
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>>544467882
Yea i want to play tuari but im not sure why it's not all crossfaction
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>>544467804
>if they slam dunk turtle
you do realize they won against a private server a decade ago
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>>544466619
I know you hate turtle wow anon but the digital millennium copyright act does not exist to help individual creative people, it was created to enforce and aid in the creation of monopolies based on intellectual rights like Disney
nobody else can enforce copyright laws, because copyright law was designed for them and only them
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>>544468021
crossfaction shit sucks
maybe if it's a raid that very specifically involves the horde and alliance teaming up against a greater threat.
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>>544467882
>>544468021
AH is crossfaction
BGs are crossfaction
RDF is crossfaction
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>>544467882
>I always do this to myself and then suffer.
hardly matters, everything other than guilds is crossfaction, and it's a pve server.
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>>544468164
*hosted by a public figure in the United States
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>>544468164
He was based in the US, turtle might be the first time they take a legal battle to other countries, which is why kaytotes thought he was so untouchable in that interview. this hadn't happened before.
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>tortle changed the slow and steady rewards when i was going from 50-60 and i cant get the purple strider anymore
fuck my chud tortoise slow leveler life
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soonâ„¢
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>>544468492
What was it changed to???
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I will just stop playing WoW altogether if turtle goes down. Maybe go back to Lotro or play that one age of reckoning private server.
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>>544468226
50% pop diff means easier time running m+, finding AoTC/CE guilds etc. It's why alliance died on retail to the point where they couldn't unlock crossrealm Mythic raids because they couldn't fill the hall of fame with 50 alliance guilds.
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turtle wow is a good example of the need for us to openly trash the copyright act and just start making better versions of our favorite games and distributing them for free as passion projects, the fucking CEOs do not deserve a cent from any of us
its time to seize the means of video game production
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>>544467882
you vill roll alliance else you submit yourself to endless third worlders on horde, even more than on ally
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>>544469140
same
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>>544469169
>anything shenna related
>passion project
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>>544469169
you won't do shit
all you parasites can do is steal
the closest thing to a video game you'll ever make is ai trash
they should just delete this general, den of scumbag criminals
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>>544469181
I unironically prefer the company of slightly retarded but chill & funny third worlders over perma medicated and depressed first worlders with 50% chance of trooning out because you're right-wing irl
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>>544469158
the hungaryans will handle it, but also... I won't be running +15 keys anymore
I just don't wanna.
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>>544469583
>slightly retarded but chill
wew lad you're in for a rude awakening
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>>544469561
>don't like it? make your own video game
>WAIT NOOO STOOOP
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Legion Brewmaster Monk seems like a button smashing game. Tiger Palm reduces Brews by 1s same as GCD …
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>>544469583
Me too but don't tell it to the designated trannies itt
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>>544469908
not their own video game
>b-b-b-but we added some custom content
drop in the bucket of stuff they didn't make, also widely considered to be hot garbage and such a noticeable drop in quality from the original game that even someone who's never played wow before would be able to pick out which parts is fanfiction. It's not what people are playing for that's for sure.
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>>544469771
Its not that bad...
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>>544470157
>also widely considered to be hot garbage and such a noticeable drop in quality from the original game that even someone who's never played wow before would be able to pick out which parts is fanfiction
By who?
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>>544470157
So what are people playing, anon?
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>>544469583
¿Who is right-wing, Pedro?
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How many people are going to go to the literal ass end of Tanaris and find this?

I'm incredibly stupid and it's the only reason I found it
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>2026 in 2 months
>still not a single thought out TBC+ server
>I get a Wotlk+ server, an xpac played to death by every pserver player, but not a TBC+ one
It's not fair.
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PEARL
PEARL
PEARL
WE GOT AN ASCENSION FAGGOT POSTING
COME BACK AND SPAM AND DROWN HIM OUT
PEARL PLEASE THIS GENERAL NEEDS YOU NOW MORE THAN EVER
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>>544470416
That's the point I think
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>>544470157
>we're blizzard and we own the World of Warcraft IP, it belongs to us nobody can make their own version of it you fucking chud! give us your fucking money you piece of shit loser!
sorry but I think World of Warcraft belongs... to the strongest.
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>>544470438
tbc sucks a fat one, it would be best if that shit expansion was forgotten forever.
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>>544470416
>worldforged items
hmmm this reminds me of something... oh I see now! They were ripping off the worst expansion!
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>>544469583
>perma medicated and depressed first worlders with 50% chance of trooning out because you're right-wing irl
I wouldn't troon out, I'm just into futa it's totally different.
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I do get that itch to play Legion's fury warrior desu.
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alliance is the faction of latinx third worlders pretending to be white
horde is the faction of white nordic aryans pretending to be monsters

choose wisely
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>>544470981
never played legion, what's so great about fury warrior?
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>>544470841 (me)
warforged... worldforged... ah who cares look at this blue item I juts found
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>>544470416
Turtle has a similar custom quest also on Tanaris. When you collect all three parts of the map that those pirates drop.
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>>544471091
It's just fun button mashing carpal tunnel syndrome spec with some big numbers and highest apm in the game.
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>>544471220
That's a vanilla quest retard
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>>544471650
turtlefags never played vanilla
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>>544469098
https://forum.turtle-wow.org/viewtopic.php?t=482
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Flask of Titans or Chromatic Resistance if I'm an Alliance healer in PvP fighting endless h*rde casters? I assume titans gives more EHP regardless but was curious how much 50 resistance matters for resists against silences and whatnot. Turtle if that matters.
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>>544471965
Oh this was months ago who cares uwu....
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>>544472013
this nigga using flasks in pvp what a tryhard
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which race do I choose for my gigachad warrior main on Evermoon
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>>544472235
Consumables should be banned from bgs
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>>544471710
>>544471650
I wasn't kidding when I said I never made it past level 30 back then.
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>>544472385
doesn't really matter because you're gonna quit in 2 weeks anyway
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>>544472385
if you wanna go fully serious sweat, Horde has better minmax PVE racials
but if you wanna play with /wpsg/ retards, you have to play alliance
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>>544471220
turtle wow is an amazing server. blizzard could never.
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I'm actually really interesting and there needs to be more posts about me in this general.
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>>544470538
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Where are the fishing dailies located?

There are fishing dailies, right?
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why a server as small as evermoon has more names taken than fucking turtle wow.
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>>544474146
>evermoon
>small
>he doesn't know
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When Legion releases evermoon will have 10k players on at all times and also 9k of those will be alliance trust the plan
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>>544474146
chinese server
latinx server
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>>544474420
Not playing a dead faction sorry!
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>>544474420
500 players are MORE than enough, no need for more spics, chinks and slavoids
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evermoon is so old the oldfags get rabid when you criticize the server.
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Evermoon more like Everpoop
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>Want to play tauren
>Only good fashy skin is white but it makes u look like an albino nigger
Fuck
I might roll alliance after all.
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>>544474694
>NOOOO! Evermoon is the b- *CRASHES*
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>>544474694
HOW
FUCKING
DARE YOU
I BET YOU FEEL REAL FUCKING SAFE SAYING THIS SHIT "ANONYMOUSLY" BUT I KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE AND I'M NOT LETTING YOU GET AWAY WITH THIS
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if a server crashes that means its ARYAN
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WoW more like poop
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I've decided to go for a pure aryan blood elf phenotype. Human would be my preferred choice but I ain't playing on a dead faction.
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wow as in wow this game is fucking horrible
install everquest: the heroes journey instead
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>>544475567
>dead faction
>60%+ winrate in bgs
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>>544474071
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>>544475734
copium.
Also didn't someone say that bgs are crossfaction? Literally carried by horde.
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>>544475310
Whoop
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>>544334525
>3 online atm
Grim
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>>544475792
they are but barely anyone bothers to enable it since it just means you get put into already lost games to replace someone who ragequit twice as often
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jesus christ
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>>544472385
dwarf, of course
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>>544476373
W-WE WILL SURVIVE
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So is Gulag an eu or na raiding guild? I'm not staying up till 2 am to raid.
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>>544475567
Based
Once I get an ally char to 100 I'll go back to my belf and get her to max level too
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>>544478013
chinese
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>>544478013
i used to do that back in the day. good times now im too old.
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>>544478107
latam
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>>544471009
I think you might onto something
pic related are your average guild names on Evermoon's alliance.
Literally an army of spics.
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>>544478209
Meanwhile horde guilds sound more English/human
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>>544478013
it's mostly EU
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>>544471009
>>544478209
Your nordic aryan faction sir
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>>544478209
>>544478363
in this world people want what they cannot have, they roleplay as what theyre not, either because they have insecurities or because they simply want to try something new
first world northwest europeans are already normal white humans irl, they prefer roleplaying as horrors, but latinx on the other hand realize they cant be blonde white superhumans irl so they do it in the one place they can, which is their fantasies (and video game world)
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that's a lot of cope for playing as virtual niggers
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>>544331398
Why were there mercenary camps in Northrend for Arthas to hire mercenaries from.
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<gulag> NOW!
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gulag is kinda cringe bros ngl
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>>544478684
soillence mad
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>>544478967
bald ass old ass nigga
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>>544479080
>noshoes
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>>544479006
it formed from the ashes of <FMC>
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>>544479134
princess moira (daughter of the king of dwarfs) was kidnapped by dark iron dwarfs who gangbanged her, then she fell in love with the enemy of her people "dagran"
#dwarfsarecucked
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What glass does gulag need?
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>>544479239
ew
yeah I'm definitely going horde then
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>>544478967
I shan't be playing anything but a warrior sorry
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>>544479269
>horde kicked out their only great leader because of pandas
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>>544479354
warriors are welcome too
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>>544478967
>Online: 1
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>>544479396
garrosh was anti-horde, he hated undead, tauren, trolls etc
fuck that orc monkey
we roll with cairne
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>>544479537
>he hated undead
who doesn't
>tauren and trolls
anti war hippies
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>>544479318
I say class
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>>544479537
Warcraft 1 Horde had none of them.
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https://youtu.be/0Nb3q1oROOg
holy kino
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>>544479652
enslaving goblins is funny but still anti-horde
>>544479687
>warcraft 1
no one played it
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>>544479691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSC69eLjk28
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>>544478209
>>544478476
Why do so many of them have the guild name in caps lock?
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Garrosh is True Horde. Tauren, undead, and jungle trolls are not True Horde. They’re Thrall’s Gay Carebear Horde.
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>>544480797
nooo you have to respect other races, thats what it means to be an orc!
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>>544479942
it's a sigma white aryan thing, you wouldn't get it
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>>544479942
>using capslock
>not keeping the shiftkey downpressed under the weight of his rage
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>>544480797
>horde made out of one race only
i mean thats okay and all but dont hate on undead, tauren, trolls etc for annihiliating you, considering theyre not part of your gang and youre attacking them LOL
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>>544480996
>tauren
The 1 tribe of tauren, you mean.
>trolls
The 1 tribe of trolls, you mean.
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Oh I guess we're just pretending genocide is bad now, cool beans I guess.
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>I guess we're just pretending genocide is bad now
/wpsg/
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>>544331398
this stupid fucking OP had me searching for a real source for 20 minutes and I haven't even played wow for a decade. LidCarter ych commission for Latia from oct 2024, who on their twitter account has a ton more work on that specific gnome
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>>544481872
no one asked
get out of my general gooner retard
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>>544480996
Canonically Garrosh won and hatefucked Azeroth into submission.
Modern retail is fanfic written by trannies.
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Any non-pol tourists guild on Tauri?
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>>544482408
nope none
even the mexicans hate trannies
you should stay on turtle
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>>544470841
Those types of items were introduced with MoP, not WoD.
https://www.wowhead.com/mop-classic/object=213969/dissectors-staff-of-mutation
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oh shit stormheim is under attack! we gotta save them!
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>>544482408
chill bros are on horde as always
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>>544462131
I haven't played vanilla but i don't think it's normal to die to enhance shamans in 2-3 globals
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>>544482518
Silver linings I suppose. Half of them don't speak English but none of them are gonna be sexpests and beg you for ERP after a dungeon.
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ARE THERE ANY TBC PREPATCH SERVESRS
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>>544485359
bronzebeard
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alguem br?
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>>544482842
they were better and had more soul in mop, in wod they're worthless shit.
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>>544485665
too many changes
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>>544482408
sorry brother, pick a normie guild
Despair on Horde side raids, Crows guild on either side share leadership if you want casual guild
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>>544396845
>Vanguard
isn't this the guild that had some cringe drama this month?
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>>544406190
kek I saw that one too
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>>544410417
it's a halloween event thing
>>544414428
Gilneas and Northwind are decent but yeah overall the additions aren't great. Helf starting zone in particular is annoying and their capital city is like an uninspired refugee camp.
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>>544467472
>are there Spanish guilds there
yes, I see them advertising on World. There are spanish guilds both for EU and NA timezones and they seem pretty active given I see them all the time in dungeons and raids.
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>>544475567
>playing on the spic faction
ahahahahah
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>>544479515
damn, at 5 am?!? woah..
also, even at 5 am, there are 3 people on, seething nigga :^)
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gnome faggot
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>tfw gnome male mage kills me and dances on my corpse
thats it ive had it
#LeperLivesMatter
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>>544461192
Shamans still fold like an origami crane under any hard CC, build your new reflectors, make a totem stomping macro and stop being a shitter because you're going to learn what overpowered means after you get to smash your face against retard-proofed Paladins who can backpedal while globalling you out of Repentence with zero counterplay.
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>>544492494
>shamans shitting pissing and cumming about folding under any hard cc while wearing full plate
>what do you mean use a trinket
>what do you mean ground the repentance
>what do you mean press literally anything that isnt chain lightning or earth shock
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>>544493279
yeah bro just always have your trinket up in every single fight that's gonna happen
you're gonna realize how retarded you are when you have to fight other paladins
no need to argue, you're gonna see
not him btw
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>>544493830
>yeah bro just always have your trinket up in every single fight that's gonna happen
this is the shaman player telling you to use reflectors
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>>544466356
stinky smelly noob anon, shaman gets 10% crit from talents and can spec into a guaranteed crit, crits aren't rare for them.

>>544484406
it is, but they wont have watershield and wont get to you on vanilla
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9l7Zm3Mo8Q
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paladin v paladiin fights are gonna take so fucking long lol, with them being put into their prospective timeouts by the other
it's gonna be impossible to take points in arathi basin
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>>544495994
No, they will be the meatshield for the shamans on their team.
Currently the pile of shamans has to sit out repent/bubble before steamrolling the enemy the enemy, now the paladins are going to tank each other while the shamans nuke them from the backline unopposed.
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>>544479942
Same reason <gulag> is lower case.
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I miss Pearl.
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>>544331398
good night wowpissgee
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>>544499047
ok pearl
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I miss pre Iraq war world
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First time someone's tried to gank me on this server
Probably expected the others to back him up, how embarrassing
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>>544501601
fdks are just braindeads
you should worry when you'll see a udk
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>>544501601
Nice blogpost
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>>544504019
Stop being a tranny, faggot
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>>544504586
i only like wholesome old drama discussion, tranime posters and avatarfags
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/bbc+/ threads are already slowing down. I guess nobody likes bronzebeard after the initial couple days. understandable since it's full of gimmicks and cash shop shit. /epog/ went through multiple threads a day for, what, over a month.
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do aecheur, gaytrasza and snowgay still play?
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>>544506515
they're all in <gulag> now



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