The nightmare is ongoing... >>544377048Renoa's white tier ass edition>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerHaru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12Yuki - Unknown - Unknown - Leaked/Expected around 11/12>Current Events/Upcoming ContentA Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12Galactic Calamity Seasonal content (Gives one 5* dupe of your choosing per season) - Expected around 11/12>Basic Guides and Introductionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg>Deck building simulatorhttps://czndecks.com/>PC Client (Stove)https://www.onstove.com/en/download>Reroll guidehttps://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640>Reroll tipsReroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for HaruYou have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)>Cards aren't savingCards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)Reminder to READ your cards and to ignore shitposters, salesfags, and cuckposters
Leave Haru to me.
>>544403360Nice>>544403346You are kidding right? Game saves even the turn you were at if it crashes in a boss fight. Try to open Chaos it should give a prompt to continue where you left it.
shit like this makes me want to quit the game. it's the reason why i dropped darkest dungeon after 3 hours of playing
i wonder just how long that hugo op is going to stay around and never get used
>>544403561Just recycle it?
>>544403474Does he really have to be used with Lucas to work? Cause I only have two green units and he is one of them so I can't make a dedicated team like that. Or do I need to?
>>544403561grab it for the glossary then turn it into gold later whats the issue
>>544403561CHAOS??
seems like they've noted the translation issues apologems doko
>>544403742they better give 20 rolls or I'm out
Shouldn't we just report the Hugo thread? it's been up for like 20 hours
Renoa, my beloved... farmer.
>>544403521>Try to open Chaos it should give a prompt to continue where you left it.Nope, nothing.I noticed I got an in-game mail with apology about a patch. Maybe they had to delete all active runs during game update.
>>544403589>>544403798It's training you guys to not be lazyass fucks
we need a "play all of the same type" buttonwe need a TON of UI improvements in fact, like actual damage prediction instead of esoteric percentages, even just knowing how many cards you're holding without having to count manually...
>>544403798No? Let him samefag alone, wish I could see how many post are his, would be hilarious, thank god I'm not brown
>>544403809My condolences bro. They probably fixed it cause game crashed on me against Blue Pot's 2nd floor final boss and it continued where it left off even having to open it from tablet to phone.
More guro and snuff could save this game.
>>544403798Some jannies love furryshit. It will not die.
>>544403651No but they work off each other.Lucas has whenever a bullet is used aoe the screen.A card that buffs all bullet dmg for a turn.A card that makes a bullet every turn.You get the idea, thr synergy is there. Finishing shot still requires handgun bullets howeverbeit.
>>544403904>he doesn't get catharsis from throwing a million tressa daggerstressa isn't for you little bro
>>544403851but the older threads reached 800-900... and ive made the past two threads since the previous bakers fucked the thread 3 times in a row
Haru slow ass banner will EoS the game.
>>544403969aka don't expect any sweeping translation fixes anytime soon retards! we'll be making minor changes over the next few years lmao!
>>544403904Nope. You need to feel the weight of slinging cards.
>>544403963source
>check fanart>most of it its ntr slopEh good enough
>>544404024Then continue doing so. Camp this thread and bake one before 800. Else you're getting another furry thread.
I kinda enjoy seeing all the ragtag references to other generals when playing smaller gachas
Thank you for giving me a mindbreak fetish
>>544403651They're an extremely good pair but you could probably make another subdps work, depending on who it is. Maybe Hugo or Selena. But Lucas is really meant for him. After starting to play with rei I think she might be even more important though.
>>544404107source?
>>544404107artist?
>>544404175>>544404179kys yourselves
>>544403904>we need a "play all of the same type" buttonYeah it's called flicking your wrist a few times, there's no delay between card use. Are you geriatric? Should take you maybe 2 seconds to throw all those cards at the boss
>>544404107That's AI
Chaos Zero Nightmare is the first game that I've seen in a while that feels like playing an actual card game and not just a "follow the flowchart simulator with the netbuilt deck"
Man what happened to chapter 4It's so short and nothing happens
>>544403904How does this even happen? What build?
>>544404279Which is why Japs and Gooks hate it while Americhads love it.
>>544404107>gook ai sloppa game gets gook ai ntr sloppawho could've seen this coming
Sorry for posting reddit buthttps://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1oi94z4/psa_the_random_effect_from_playing_a_breakdown/Seems pretty fucking importantWhen you hover on a card before using it, you see a preview of what happens. If you do it on a stress card, you can also see if it will break the mental breakdown early. This effect is rerolled which each card so you can technically try to reroll them to see if you break from the schizophrenia earlier
>>544404175>>544404179It's all ai slop bwo...
Please play Epic 7....we got a gorgeous 2D animations and engaging gameplay too....
>>544404209>>544404241>>544404380Just tell me whose artist this slop is based off.
Can someone explain Veronikas retrieve stuff to me? Do i use this before or after Mei attacks? Nothing i do starts chaining her attacks like in those vids that got posted here. Does pic rel really have to be 0 ap?
>>544404175>>544404179bwos... it's aislop. unless you wanna know the genner? it's the same guy who did the renoa opening the door behind owen https://arca.live/b/girlcafe/151717733?p=1
>>544404464This was already in the last thread. Without linking leddit too.
>>544404464did our anon steal it or did leddit steal from him
>>544404279Same. Even Card-en-Ciel that I love felt more auto-built on the decksHere I'm having to make proper choices in the Chaos and sometimes even have min-maxed decks I'm marking.>>544404329People assume the writer changed. Probably did. The party of the prologue and the Renoa and Captain from her Trauma wouldn't have made the blunders that happened in Chapter 4.
>>544404537>>544404563Sowwy... I just woke up...
Day 5I think it's time to quit. I like the gameplay concept, but there are so many things that made me unable to enjoy the game.1. Too much grinding required per unit: exp, promotion, potential, gear, partner and especially Chaos. really slow progress since farming stages don't give a lot of mats.2. No swipe feature. having to do grinding stage manually x3 sucks. auto sucks dick3. inability to retain cards lead to missing combos and build up required due to card draw RNG. seems like I just have to remove as many cards as possible in a Chaos run.4. Healing sucks and can't outpace enemy's hundreds of damage per turn5. The story sucks really bad. Renoa's trauma story is the only thing I like.6. This is the SECOND most important one: I got wrecked by the latest Promotion boss, which made me pull a gacha (standard banner) for the first time. I used all my tickets and guess what? I got spooked by Hugo the furry piece of shit penis. Ok fine, I still have enough resource to pull Haru banner x907. I pulled Haru's banner and got spooked by ANOTHER PENIS: LUKE. That was the last straw that made me just instantly quit the game. no gems. 2 SSR male characters.There's no point anymore. uninstalled.Goodbye Renoa, Selena, Tressa, Amir. I'll move on to Duet Night Abyss. but I'd probably hate it since I hate action hack & slash hoyoclones. but I'll still try.SHEESH
>>544404492killurself
why does Orlea sucks so much ass bros
>>544404474I'll buy account once I can use my card again. What should I aim for in a 100$ range?
>>544404624see you tomorrow bwo
>>544404624>but there are so many things that made me unable to enjoy the game.you played male, what do you expect?
>>544404642Let the gooners goon, ffs.
>>544404492ratatat74 the peak gook ntrfag
>>544404624good, less people to infest this place.
>>544404679skill issue
>>544404624the only people ive known who hate male characters in gachas are literal actual fags
theres no world where dna is more fun that czn
>>544404624Good riddance. It's a good thing Luke is filtering healerfags like you. People who can't play without heals should quit CZN.
>>544404724feeding the cucks just makes them plaster it all over the thread, so no, i don't think i will.
>>544404464>scroll down posts>they made a breakdown galleryFor once reddit makes something goodhttps://imgur.com/a/chaos-zero-nightmare-breakdown-gallery-mnxJEtZ>all other girls start crying and stripping>>>Renoa becomes a rapistFUCK YES BEST GIRL
>>544404624Filtered
>>544404827Me in the middle
Notice Regarding In-Game Text Translation Qualityhttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11152647Details```We sincerely thank all our Protos for your continued support and love, even amidst areas that fell short after the official launch. We are carefully reviewing all the valuable feedback and improvement requests sent by everyone, and are actively working to reflect them in the best possible way. Among these, we would like to address the issues many of you have pointed out regarding in-game text translation quality. We have identified instances of unnatural phrasing, inconsistent terminology, typographical errors, incorrect pronoun usage, and spacing issues, which have resulted in localization that is not as smooth as intended.We are fully aware of these issues, and our team is continuously reviewing and correcting them. While it may be difficult to fix everything at once, we are committed to a gradual improvement process to deliver a more refined and complete localization experience.We kindly ask for your continued feedback and reports from all our Protos.Thank you.```
>>544404467I still want to know where to find it. Can't see it on pixiv at least.
>>544404920>While it may be difficult to fix everything at onceIt's really not.Well, at least they know.
>>544404920yessss keep on doing free QA work for us white piggus. keep the tickets flowing
>>544404847
>Actually tried using both the bullet brothers>The 4* is 10x betterDamn. I think I'm going to make a luke build without lucas because it feels like their kits were swapped. Luke does more damage to all enemies than Lucas does. All lukas does better is enable luke.
Is Rin better than Tressa or am I being trolled??
>>544404708I already uninstalled>>544404721? I don't want to play as bishonen and furry>>544404792>>544404827I want HOT GIRLS.
>>544404847They're missing some of the ones that we have
>>544405051Shoo, shoo
sincerely is llm speak
>>544404703for 100 usd you should be getting at least four 5* incl hugo and with few rolls used. should also have nia and cass. i wouldnt spend that much for less than this
her hands and tits are so comically big kek. what a shit design
>>544405064Fair enough
>>544404624>seems like I just have to remove as many cards as possibleThat's how it works for all card games based on Slay the Spire. I have expected way more StS fans in this general.
Where are my apologems?
>>544404792True and real.
PLEASE CHANGE THE RARITY COLOUR SMILEGATE, PURPLE CANNOT BE HIGHER THAN GOLD I LITERALLY CAN'T GET USED TO IT
>>544405262I never played sts, I'm here because I'm a DD fag
>>544404624Just reroll with ld player?Its still launch week.
im a fag and i hate other fags
>she looks mindbroken
Is the partner gacha worth rolling for? I don't have a 4* Psionic partner for my Tressa.
Does Rei or Nia works with Mei lin or does she need Mika?
>>544405262This general is an unholy mix between gameplayfags various roguelike/te games and gachacoomers who can't play without heals.
>>544405064So what's the meaning behind their background color? red sexual assaults, blue whore, green weed?
>>544404624>gets spooked by m*lesyou deserve it for being a seanigger, you fucking seanigger
>Beryl breakdownI am so hard right nowIs it wrong for a commander to rape his agents?
>>544405263>still not bannedpussies who didn't exploit got the short end of the stick! picrel
>>544405360that's just delaying the inevitable
>>544405508>>544405432
There has to be some way to buff shields or something. Or am I just worse at this game than I am at StS?>>544405508Do not stick your ponos into your girls, proto.
>>544405508It's fine you can erase their memories, only Renoa will rape you on the field so it's a bit more tricky
>>544405492The purple one indicates confusion/inability to do anything.Red indicates mental instability.Green indicates confinement/inability to free themselves.Orange indicates mental breakdown.
All the daze breakdowns are making me horny. Any good hypno JAVs for this feel?
>>544404679What cards are you picking/duplicating? She is a powerful character for long fights, her best card is Growing Creation. Just steer clear of Softie generation, it's a dogshit card.
>>54440470310 ssrs
>>544405507Based. The seanigger infestation on this site has really led to its downfall.
>>544405617>Do not stick your ponos into your girls, proto.I want to stick it in Beryl while she looks at me with that face of utter despair
>>544405667How about the nun>>544405243
>>544405681i am raping mei lin RIGHT NOW
lmao this data is 100% gonna get fucked
>>544404107Previous one had a typo.
>>544405434some 5* partner are absolutely broken like Orlea's
>>544405434You can buy it from Zeronium shop.
>>544405775Every background is a symbolism for their mental state. Ever feel like your "sense of self" is shattered like glass?
>>544404467Haru wouldn't do that...
>>544405434given how stingy this game plans to be post-honeymoon... nah. im saving for a limited i really want. hopefully, i get some okayish partners when i roll that.
>>544405243I still can't get a half decent run to use this harlot.Her cards just brick my hand.
I wish this game had some epic datamines or at least a published schedule because I can't keep going without something to look forward to.Game is extremely fun with the best gameplay I've had in a gacha but even the best 10/10 game gets boring after playing it for too many hours.
>>544404847>>544405064thank you for posting this once I'm out of the wage cage I'll compile it all
>>544405243SLUT
>>544405721I blame /vt/ for that, I also found out there is a country with 300 millions population in SEA and it has zero contribution in science, sports and entertainment.
What does Battle Missions from your Ark policies do or give?
>>544404509Mei Lin has a card that gets stronger the more cards played, you can play that card 4 times in a turn if you have to mana so what happens in that webm is that anon got this card discounted to 0 through a god gift, played it 4 times for free and that gave Mei 4 extra hits of her cardYou need to luckshit really fucking hard to achieve that
>>544405617You want a combination of Shields + Resolve for best effect. Khalipe with the 4 Resolve Vulture Launcher basically prevents any damage taken the turn she plays it.
Having to wait 3+ weeks between events/banners is gonna kill this game. I already cleared everything and now I have to save another 2 weeks for Yuki, they need to speedup releases a little to cut all this dead time
>>544406009Her only decent use is alongside Hugo. Not even Beryl wants her.
>>544406065No you are
Daze and Charm is such a sex breakdown
>>544405794honestly, it could have been worse. I'm gonna take it.wtf and I just realized that it was a normal chaos. so that's why it felt soo eeasy.
>>544405243>>544406009Play her with either Beryl or Rin.
>>544406108extra gems and character/partner exp. no account exp
>>544406010But we already got our datamines anon.
>>544406080what have you contributed to the world?
I regret raising mika. She's good but none of my teams are that AP hungry and she doesn't add any damage like rei and nia or deck filtering like nia and cassius. Unless you're playing kayron or haru i think it's actually worse to pick her over another support.
>>544405064Why Rin the only one in Chinese? >>544406025Can you sort it according to their color, thanks.
>can clear chaos 4 deep trauma on almost every run>can never save a good deck>hard walled by account exp so can't progress any further eitherreeeeeeeeeeeeee
Wtf where's the NTR fanart? I was promised NTR GODAMN IT.
>>544406220they literally do give account exp
>>544406208What can she even do for Beryl?She only has one copy of the trigger all retains card, and it's a 2 cost with no epiphany.
>>544404097https://x.com/kyohokodraws/status/1982344079523660217
>Gloomy Prime dogfucker>draw 0 attack>dieWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>>544406259SEAnigger?
>>544405774>not making amir do double peace signs while she ahegaos from anal>not enjoying Haru's plump body while doing her doggy style>not correcting Renoa's yandere side or making her kuudere side show love only to you
>>544406010It already posted in the previous thread bwo
>>544406242Yeah but we have no idea when those charas are coming or if they're scrapped designs. They could come next week, next year or in 2 years.
>>544406129Unfortunately they kinda shot themselves in the foot trying to give every combatant unique moving cards, L2D sprite, counseling portrait, lv11 bond CG, branching personal storyline with CGs, unique sprites, 2 mental breakdown pictures each, ~30 epiphanies that shouldn't break the game especially when interacting with other ~400 epiphanies, etc.Game is as resource-intensive as Genshin Impact.
>>544406220>>544406341Latter Anon is correct.
>>544406341no? i unlocked a hard mode battle node and it did not have account exp
imagine the anal fistings
>>544406121NTA but is Resolve stackable like Morale? Or will it get removed once you use shield card?
>>544406586I hate herwho is this design for
>>544406574i'm looking at a policy found hard battle mission right now and it has account exp, so unless you have a picture i think you're just wrong
>>544406454Cool
>>544406617Hugo
>>544406617Our first ritual post...
I guess it isnt enough that it removes cards to perform your deck it has to give you shit ones too. (See the barrier here) lmfao. Fuck this """difficulty""".
>>544406697the dev with a handjob/titjob fetish
>>544406208whats her synergy with Rin?
>>544406617our fuarking hero emerges...
>>544406697passionlip fans
How do I know which card is Neutral/Basic/Unique when it is created?For example: Cards like Bullets created by Lukes, Creation creature cards, Dagger card by Tress, etc
Anyone tried a passion team?Lucas and Selena are a definite but don’t know about the other two.
>>544406521I got two of these missions. Absolute worth.
>>544406829Nobody likes lip. Give us Melt instead.
Japs hate manual games.Gooks don't spend but complain nonstop.Honestly Smilegate should just cater to the US.
>>544406917If the card name is underlined it's unique, otherwise it's neutral iirc. It's one or the other. Someone made a post about it a while ago.
>>544406697Weirdos like me
>>544406931Passion team without Mei Lin is a bit...
>>544406917>basicunit cards with white text (where the title of the card is written)>uniqueunit cards with anything that isn't white text>neutralcards that don't innately belong to the unit
>>544406697Me. A giant hands appreciator.
>>544406768haru my totsugeki beloved
>>544407008the american crowd is gonna drop this game once StS2 comes out
>>544406617There you are. I was getting parched
>>544406360you really need this and beryl +2 hit retain card to actually make them really works well
Where are they reading feedback?
>>544406768Why cant we just have a normal ritualpost?
Oh no...
>>544407395probably the discord who knows
>>544407157This design is good because of her flat chest and petite stature contrasting with her giant hands
>>544406386Would DSP be able to beat our game?
>>544406360You can change her 1 cost to affect other character's cards so she can boost your Charged/Opening. You can change Beryl's choco bar so it affects Orela's slimes. It winds up in a team that plays passive very efficiently until they blow up the boss in a single turn of several fuckoff sized nukes (3* Swiftie gets 150% per Retain, and Beryl can get an upgrade for Charged 2 cost that makes it almost as good).Alternative route is to play PotShot Beryl with her multiple Opening Found upgrades where Orlea can help keep the team alive while the deck is getting cycled for more Heavy Weapons Specialist cards.Another benefit to Orlea is that you can set her up with extremely thin decks.>>544407224No I won't. I can't stand STS. Here I have to dump two basics not 80% of my deck and also never pick up cards at all.STA was the one that got card based roguelikes on the map but I hate the formula compared to Chrono Ark, Vault of the Void and even LBoL.
>>544407457It's actually crazy, I have yet to see one Youtuber criticize the game completely. Yesterday one dude posted a video of some random doing that and every comment was blasting him
>>544407457Idk if you want to attract hoyo fans that much. But yes CZN feels like an actual game and it's great.
>>544407495What's LBoLSurely not limbo of the lost
>>544407495NTA, what other char did you use for orlea beryl team?
>>544405434See this shared currency10x for 1 summon300x for a partner400x for a duplicate of a combatantMeaning 1 partner = 30 summons here. Much more valuable this way, no RNG involved. It may take longer to get the currency but slow and steady the turtle wins the race
>>544405434I will just buy the battle pass and settle with mediocre partners. I don't want to roll for them in this game
>>544407762Wouldn't it just be better to grab dupes instead though, with how strong some characters become with them?Partners honestly don't seem as valuable as dupes
news doko? stella flopa already got a new banner and summer event chaos garbage leaving us in the dark, not even a year preview like epic seven does you would think because of the korea melting they would show something instead of just an AI apology. is it holidays in india so all their ai “artists” are on vacation?
>>544404920>While it may be difficult to fix everything at onceI understand what they mean but it really isn't.That said, I hope they startedfixing it TODAY, so after fixing all the errors and inconsistencies, they can move to better QoL on their texts (like adding differences for additive % damage and multiplicative % damage, and yes this also applies to Fortitute's damage reduction % - it's just additive if you're curious)
I think this game relys TOO much on Mika that any other team just feels bad to play, they REALLY needs to fix this
>>544407698Don't worry the mental breakdown and the whole therapy thing will drive normgroid away, too relatable for them to stick with the game
which?
>>544406454I hope she's good, because I'm going to be rolling her either way.
>>544407872The controller partner from the BP might be BiS atm anyways
>>544407457These cucks still can't move away from HSR despite saying they quit like 20 times a month
>>544407457AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>544406586This is the most AI art I've ever seen. Wtf is wrong with her legs and left hand?
>>544406010What is that, a mindbreak for ants?
>>544407743Khalipe. Fun fact, if you go the Passive route for Beryl, any card Khalipe's Ult forces her to Retain count for extra shots.>>544407742Touhou Lost Branch of Legend. It's a STE sidegrade, events suck but it does a lot of gameplay way better.
>>544407762Damn, thank you for this. I would've bought rolls with them as usual.Even though maybe you want more rolls to get more 5* combatants
>>544403904
>>544407457I played all of HSR's story that it had on launch. I had never played a hoyoverse game before, so I had no idea that hoyo's entire thing and the sole reason that they're popular is because all of their games only have 2 buttons. It's impossible to ever get filtered when there are only ever 2 choices. And one of those choices is on cooldown half the time.
>>544408246What's Sir Kowalski doin
>>544407954the partners that are clearly designed for one character are as strong or even significantly stronger than one dupe. Zeta literally only functions on Khalipe (so far) but she is -really- good for Khalipe.
>>544408198>>544406586nyerm handbros how do we defend the hand clipping into the background?
>>544408246I feel bad for veronica mindbreak because she's unironically retarded
>>544408246The hamster is asking for it.
>>544408006right unless you can stack 20 agony
>>544408387Hiding. He skurrd
>>544408467
>>544406662It depends. If a skill does not say anything it's permanent but usually it says "this turn". Could be wrong in some cases because the fucked up translation though.
>>544407954take a small gander and read through Rin's and Orleas dupes then go read haru's partners affect your gameplay having one more button so they feel better in a gameplay standpoint while providing a useful passive though Rin's sig partner is pretty trashy.
Hello, fags.Is this better than ChronoArk or nah?
>>544408382Did you actually read the slop of cocolia's generic planet and chinatown planet's horrible meandering story about the ancient 5 friends? Shit was so boring...
damn my wife loves me
>>544405508>Is it wrong for a commander to rape his agents?It's a privilege. You have memory erasure commander
>>544407954It depends. The partners are tailored to specific characters and their passives are just as strong as another dupe if not stronger. Hugo's provides a about 35% extra damage passively and has an active that increases it by an additional 30%.
>>544407224And they will pick it up again once they're done with StS2
>when own card is used, get 1 waveAm I reading this affect right? I need to use this card, and then another 3 Mika's card to get ONE AP. This sounds like literally the worst card in the game. Mika already has a card that unconditionally gives +1 AP, heals, and that's without even any epiphany.I got a bonus +1 AP epiphany, so I ask this in case the card is mistranslated.
>>544408592FUCK YOU IM ABOUT TO HIT PITY FOR ONE RIN FOIL CARD I CANT EVEN THROW GEMS AT IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>544407457I'm worried for this game's longterm, I'm terrified of the powercreep or dps check few months into the game and the lack of a goal
>>544408567It's a very competent roguelite card game, and nobody has seen the end game yet.
>>544408467>>544408543
>>544408567much higher production value but lacks the content and variety of a game that added shit for like 5 years with early accessassuming the game is still kicking in 2 years, it might rival it. Except for the story, which i have no hope on them fixing for the better.
>>544407457Holy shit are we gonna rising bros???
>>544408567I dunno Anon I am not you. But it definitely feels good in the same ways Chrono Ark does IMO.
>>544408567Honestly? Best turn based gacha ever made.It can't compete with Chrono Ark because it has a good story and is not a gacha, but it stole some of its mechanics so it recognizes it's a good game too.
>No fun allowed
>>544408763>lacks the content and varietyVariety maybe, content no. This game has a ton of content (just kinda stamina gated).
>>544408567Gameplay wise? Definitely.Setting/plot/music wise? Nah.
>>544408653well it's not like wave is temporary, you don't have to generate all 3 at once. and yes there are better ap generation cards, but that doesn't make less powerful ap generation cards bad. they aren't mutually exclusive.but yeah i think that is one of the weaker upgrades for it, because you don't want to be spending AP to use mika's other cards just to get the wave. though the divine epi makes it an autopick here.
>>544408653She has an upgrade that gives a wave per turn and a few more that only gives waves without ap. The mechanic is really useful since you get to choose when you get AP rather than overloading on ap without the cards to use them.
>>544408734Yeah, the issue is the endgame being the usual "clear in 12 turns gwelio".
>>544408653i'm going to assume the card on the right also counts itself for the 'when own card is used' which keeps parity with the other 2 options generating 1 wave by default, so it sacrifices the healing/other effect to generate more wave if you play multiple of her cards on that turnit's easily the best due to the god bonus, but i wouldn't pick it otherwise.
>>544408993that's just one form of endgame, zero system is the other endgame and is just harder longer chaos dungeons with modifiers and boss mechanics that encourage you to build different teams
>>544407457these cucktent creators may praise the game. but the moment this game shows an ounce of powercreep they will fucking attack it like a drunk husband hitting his wife who failed her cooking
>>544408589I did actually read everything that was in the game when it launched. The story was not good, but I wouldn't say it was dogshit either. It was about what I expected it to be, which is a gacha story. I know hoyodrones talk about how good the stories are, but I think they just have stockholm syndrome because you can't skip it. Some things I did like about it though. Like, apparently China can't have fortune telling or magic or something, so the future predictor had to be an abacus. I thought that was cute. Also, the side quests and lore and stuff was all genuinely top tier. There are so many references to other media and other video games in all of the random side missions and stuff. I was really blown away. I felt like the game was speaking to me. I used to kinda be a /lit/fag, and in the roguelike mode, one of the schools of buffs, every single buff is named in a way that is a clear homage to a book I have read. Unfortunately, all of the love that game was given was put into the inconsequential side content that you never actually need to do. I dropped it as soon as it became a "log in to farm substats" every day kind of game. Gameplay was dogshit. Story was serviceable but needlessly long and wordy and could have been 1/3rd the dialogue while still being the same.
>>544404467my cock is not that big wtf
>>544407978Rei can fill in.
>>544409142what do you actually get from going higher in the zero system besides save data?like if someone is at zero system tier 5 and the other is at tier 100, do they get anything for it?
>>544406574Normal mode gives account XP, hard mode does not
Veronica is pretty good.
>>544409064>i'm going to assume the card on the right also counts itselfi wouldn't be so quick to assume that, RAW it wouldn't but this game isn't very careful with its text so who knows.
>>544409202how does Rei fill in? she generates AP?
>>544407978Mika, Rei, Cassius, Nia, Orlea
>>544407457>>544408150This is good. The devs are clearly aiming for Hoyoverse fans, so it means their plan is working. They should strike while the iron is hot. Promote this game to the global audience and attract the Twitter/Youtube crowd.
>>544409142>zero systemhuh. do you just stop doing chaos and farm your decks in there once it unlocks?
>>544409142I hope we get super bosses eventually. Though the only game I know that did it was FFBE.
>>544409293yep
>>544409281>RAW it wouldn'tAs long as Owen's Wind Charge exists nobody should think the words on cards definitively mean anything.
>>544409202rei needs e2 to really shine right? i got her e2 and NOT mika for some reason
>>544409351yes, it's strictly better than regular chaos. you'll only do regular chaos for your first time clears. i think you can only use your 4/4 weekly tickets in regular chaos too.
>>544407457You do not want these types of people covering your game. They are all drama content creators masquerading as gacha players, they will bring an annoying fanbase over that only cares about shipping and cuckshit, and they will manufacture controversy every week for the sake of views.
>>544409064>i'm going to assume the card on the right also counts itself for the 'when own card is used' which keeps parity with the other 2 options generating 1 wave by defaultI just picked it, and fucking no, it doesn't generate 1 wave on its own. Here's the log. I got +1 AP from god bonus, I got "tactical anal" buff. And then I got +1 wave only on the next card played.It's absolute trash even with +1 AP bonus.
>>544409281>RAWThere is no "RAW" in this game. You have to try to read the card text while translating that text to what it could potentially mean based on a general gamefeel for what cards are capable of doing.
>>544409484gotcha thanks. level 40 unlock... that's a bit far away unless I use gems to refill stam... I won't
>>544408567It’s crazy fun but I’d say you need first the Memory Fragments in Chaos or a Fhaos clear for the better effects
>>544409263why are people saying thisthey both give expi have a completed hard policy mission that rewarded account exp, i can log on and get it right now
>>544409362>get all the artifacts>after final boss, the heart opens the portal>TRUE FINAL BOSS: CHAOS ZERO NIGHTMAREhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nikQR7rZig
>>544409563real. if they """""succeed""""" siphoning players on this game, it will be the calm before the storm.
>>544409456>needsNo, E1/2 are quality of life, she is a buffer first and healer/subdps second.
>>544407495>I can't stand STSi used to enjoy solo roguelikes but team roguelikes like chrono ark ruined them forever for me, and i'm really glad czn is like that too
>>544408734>and the lack of a goalWe will always reach here because no gacha or live service game can ever make enough content per patch.
Cassius is overrated, Gear bag >>>>>> Cassiusthere I said it
>>544409569then that's a complete brick epiphany that should never be taken outside of god boons
>>544409667You know. I liked this game. I felt retarded half the time, but I kinda liked it. However, once I beat the heart once, I never felt the need to play the game again. That was back when there were only 2 characters.
>>544409569>It's absolute trash even with +1 AP bonus.1 ap for 0 is still pretty good
>>544409332See >>544409563You do not want mainstream Hoyo fans playing the game, the quality will tank immediately. Look what happened with wuwa. The second these fags start playing they will complain about how hard the game is and demand the difficulty be made easier, then they will demand more men, then they will complain about how sexualzied the women are and demand censorship, every other patch will be some gigantic nothingburger controversy etc...
>>544407457>>544408150>>544409332>every Mihoyo ecelebs have brown skinI'm noticing.
>>544409804It's normal. I got a clear in Ascension 20 with my favorite and then moved on, it has limited replayability unless you have mods.This game has the advantage of constantly adding characters and being a live service so it will do well imo.
>>544409619>carroty in the fucking ego lineup
>>544409150>AbacusIt is just a smartphone which really soured it for me. In typical Chinese fashion they had bullshit mystical names for "mundane" SF things. Also the story somehow got much better (Penacony) then much MUCH worse in Amorpheus rn. Almost as bad as Chapter 4 here.
>>544409765Joker is amazing, so is Shuffle (the epiphany that reshuffles the deck and draws 5 can be a +4). Also Full House is crazy value, and straight is not bad either.
>get to the end of Part 1 of the game>beat the final boss>party gets wiped>Boss is barely hanging on but comes straight for your neck>YOU engage him in combat and the usual cards get replaced with your movements to finish him off yourself
This event always feels kino to me. This time, I'm the final boss.
this card is annoying to use properly. I don't think I've managed to have all of the stacks, it is usually between 0-2
>>544409563Yup, I can vouch for this. I've not played a Hoyo game, but I've played other gachas that have fallen victim to the angry and vindictive mob that is the Hoyo fansbase. What you have to understand is that the Hoyo fanbase is a lot like a bitter old woman who is on her period. They want nothing more than to fuck your game up. Any non-Hoyo game they cover is purely so that they can fuck it up at a later point. It's the weirdest thing. The mob of them literally acts like a bitter, scorned, hateful woman who is on her period.
>>544409848It's worse than Mika's unupgraded starting card.
wtf, the amount of damage rei adds is insane. why is everybody glazing mika
Add me brosNaoSou#485463341110
>>544408885huh? you mean i suppose to get one epiphany instead of 3
>>544409992I'm all ears for better suggestions for Luke. I assumed she was best since she boosts Exhausted card damage.
this is probably old news but I just confirmed if you beat a stage before your epiphanies pop the latent drop you get at the end contains all of them
>>544410151I use both on the same team to make Haru spam anchors. Turns out the event team comp is pretty good...
>>544407978Because she's the only 4* healer that actually heals a lot in chaos.The other one is 5*.For the 12 turn mode you can replace her with card draw because AP generation happens by breaking.
>>544409332>we want these ecelebs fanbaseYou must be joking
>>544410085Oh my lord
>>544410151Rei can't heal enough.
>>544409765Cassius has big dick damage.For card draw neutrals are better, yes.
>>544410046Chrono Ark is a cool game for this.
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT CARROTY!
>>544407978Problem is either you use her or you use low cost characters. A character with a 2-cost skill is nasty to use without Mika in the team to somehow offset that.Rei+Tressa work against Chaos-weak enemies because Tressa hits so much she causes stagger and recovers some AP but even then the combination of a Healer+AP is hard to pass. Cassius gives you a ton of draw power but you exhaust yourself without her.
>>544410406it won't save for sure
>>544410109If you want to make use of this you basically need Nia and Mika/Rei. Cassius is funny enough mostly gonna use Attack cards.
>>544410406Good luck brother if you can keep it.
the last one is pretty gay, literally anti one anchor haru
>>544410406Fucking explode
>>544410284yes you can never 'miss' a combat epiphany
>>544409850Don't care. More players means higher income, higher budget, more fanarts, etc. The ML crowd have already refused to touch this mixed toilet game anyway. We literally have people every day here whining about getting spooked by males. Prime example this retard here >>544404624 who also complains he can't outheal enemies in this game. Are these the people you consider "good" for this game?
>>544410631>>544410594>>544410617I'm on a Codex 8 run, trust.
>>544410151Mika is more intuitive, especially for players new to the game. She heals, has some draw and gives AP, pretty basic. Rei on the other hand offers benefits you need to actually think for a second. Large damage boost, deck thinning while also having some draw and heal depending on epiphanies.
>>544410552You sold me in Chrono Ark unlike all other people that mention it. Congrats.
>>544410702I'll be at 40 in 2 days I think. How does the codex thing work anyway is it grindy?
>>544410213>i'm all earsyeah i can see that >>544410562
>>544410213you want his bro and rei to get massive bullet stonks
>>544410578Depends on the team. Part of why I like Orlea Beryl Khalipe is because half my cards Retain (and some cost 0) so I almost never have to worry about the fact I was not able to get the best value.
>>544410806His bro is also much better than him.
>2 full levels away from 40g-go on without me bros, get your feathers and 60k sava data
>>544407224>StS2I'm so sick of STS though. It doesn't evolve formula in any way, it's basically just official mod. Even touhou sts game is more exciting at this point since it at least introduces new layer.
>>544410768Ever played Path of Exile? It's the mapping system. If you haven't then the short answer is yes, it's the end game grind which is basically chaos runs with modifiers that level up. Also I just duped it. Please save data gods...
>>544410986>duplicating itbro you are bricking your save
>>544410986Thin some shit out (not basic cards) just to be sure, or remove some of the higher tier equipment
>>544410986Sheeesh good luck bro.
>>544410406good luck bwos
>>544410046There is 0% chance of this happening with the way they're writing the MC.
>check what serithea doesmade for luke...
>>544410740Sorry for spoiling the first Act big moment tho.Don't get into the game unless you like autistic deckbuilders.
>>544410986HOLD
>>544410605I still don1t have her
>>544410680>The ML crowd have already refused to touch this mixed toilet game anyway. We literally have people every day here whining about getting spooked by males.Look buddy, you're conflating 2 different things right now. I'm not the person you replied to or the other guy in your post, but this is my personal opinion:I fucking HATE Gayshit and what it has done to the gacha gaming sphere. I fucking hate it. Mixed toilet games didn't used to be so bad before Gayshit. Now, mixed toilet games means that you necessarily attract the Gayshit crowd, and you NEVER want that for your game. If they stick around, sure it's good money, but it's is a nightmare as an actual community. So it's understandable that there are people who write off mixed toilet gachas, because the like 1 or 2 ML games that still exist in 2025 inherently filter the toiler bowl drinkers... and even still the toilet bowl drinkers try their hardest to actively bring down the ML games by mass reporting their PVs on YouTube and bilibili and Twitter. I am not joking. It's actually insane the lengths that angry Gayshitters and mixed toilet lovers will go to make sure no one else is having any fun at all. Meanwhile LADS is totally fine. There is also the totally separate issue you mentioned, which is getting spooked by penis. No one really wants to get spooked by penis. There is also furry penis in this game. Now, Hugo is good, and kinda cool, and so is Kayron, and so is Cassius. But most people probably don't want to start their accounts with those characters, except ironically maybe Hugo cuz he's good. It's understandable that someone would quit when getting double spooked by penis. It's an unfortunate hazard of mixed toilet games. His issue is that he sounds like he's a bad player and also he should have rerolled. His issue is not the fact that he dislikes being spooked by penis in a game where he'd rather have a cute girl.
How come nobody shills Library of Ruina here
>>544410912i don't think so. lucas cannot freely spam bullets unlike luke since they have a cost. they heavily rely on each other to make their own gimmicks work
I just hit account level 39 and grinded good enough 2 teams.I will go to daily mode until I hit 40 and unlock zero mode which should take around a week I think.
>>544411327There was a PM shill here last night.
>>544411327I got filtered by the other 2 games and didn't try this one
anon, don't play too much. it might affect your life
>>544411327Because Ruina encounters are very insular. You're not building an all around team (outside of a few things like Early Yesod Unga or Myongest) you're building for a specific static encounter that you will always have the same resources for, then moving to the next static encounter with new resources you will always get.Chaos Runs are far more like StS than they are to Ruina battles, in fact I'd say Limbus MD is more similar even
Red square are basic and the rest are unique right?
Has anybody here managed to kill this thing before it escapes?
ストップタイピングロングメッセージばーか
i want game exactly like czn, but offline, they can add online match too, more character via dlc, i would pay $80 for base game, $100 if there is season pass ver, normal deck builder barely have content like czn where you do chaos run and use it for other content
>>544411325You said I'm conflating 2 different things, and yet the person I replied to also conflated being bad (asking to reduce difficulty) with Hoyo audience, even though the two things have nothing to do with each other. Bad players exist everywhere doesn't matter if they're ML players or mixed toilet players.Getting spooked by characters you don't want or hate is part of the gacha experience. I'm just sick and tired of people deciding to pick up a MIXED TOILET GACHA, whine about losing the gacha, call the game shit, and demand devs to remove males, like they didn't sign up for it in the first place. Absolute retardation.
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Is the Line of Justice set good on Khalipe? I mean I know she's not a crit-based DPS but silver veil hits a bunch of times and 20% crit for 2 cost or higher cards seems nice.
>>544412139
>>544410046Luka? Is this from Monster Girl Quest Paradox?
>>544411327Limbusfag hereI wish Limbus played like this game. It should have. Its predecessor is a fucking card game...
>>544410986God I hate this fight right before the boss every time.
>>544412091bro stop replying to that retard. just dont reply.
I don't know which combatant should I bring to lvl 40 and not regret it because materials are too scares...
>>544412091>conflated being bad (asking to reduce difficulty) with Hoyo audienceIt was more than just "being bad". It was a chain of events, and the chain of events he mentioned is exactly what happens if your game acquires the Homo audience. This (in full) is what he was accurately attributing to the Homo audience:>"demand the difficulty be made easier, then they will demand more men, then they will complain about how sexualzied the women are and demand censorship, every other patch will be some gigantic nothingburger controversy etc..."
>>544411686correct>>544412204no it's not, why the fuck would it beyou can confirm this by leveling up the unique/basic damage nodes in the potential tree and seeing which one is increased by which.basic only refers to the standard strike/heal/shield every unit has 3 of.
>>544410986that's a level 50 team with memofrags right?
>>544412350yessss commit all your week 1 resources to choosing a shitty main yessssss
>>544412204But that's not only wrong, it's easily visible by comparing Anon's bonuses on his basic cards with the Vulture card who doesn't have these bonuses.
>>544412350post list
>>544412309>light eleowari da...
Rerolling.Unbothered.Moisturized.Happy.In my lane.Focused.Flourishing.
>>544410552hope deception engine will be just as kino
>>544412529why are you still rerolling bro...
god i wish my decks were as optimal as the ones from the haru event's trial
>>544412529is this a repost or are you STILL rerolling?
>>544412354>demand the difficulty be made easier, then they will demand more men, then they will complain about how sexualzied the women are and demand censorship, every other patch will be some gigantic nothingburger controversy etc..."As opposed to what's happening to us now?Retards demanding heals to be stronger, then they demand the removal of men, then they complain about NTR story, every day some gigantic nothingburger controversy about Owen NTR?
>>544406815It might not be good for the speedrun mode but with Orlea you can hold your atk and skill cards while Rin retains her stance, and Orlea skill cards stacking contributes to the Rin card that deals more hits with more skill cards in hand. Basically, she can work as sub-dps for things Rin didn't kill or a nuke for bosses while providing some heal. I play her with Rin and Rei (she buffs 1 and 0 cost cards).
>>544412464Magna is punch element
>>544412529Bro, just spend $10-20 USD on an account from some reroller in Vietnam or Indonesia. You get what you want for pennies on the dollar, and you get to feed some person who needs it for like a month.
>>544412571Same.I saw the trailer and I'm not a fan of the UI so far.Old Cark card UI was really cool and fresh from all the other card-games out there.It was cool recognizing the colours, font and SFXs in the trailer from Chrono Ark tho.
>>544412576>>544412576>>544412716i'm convinced rerollers like this guy reroll for the casino high and don't actually play the game after/if they're done
>>544412635nta but why do you think one would need one or the other? neither is needed here and you are not needed here either. you better kill yourself now
>>544412669i kneel magnaGOD
>>544412586those are Very High data ones bwo>3 copies of epiphanied dice
>>544412716don't think so nguyen
noice
>>544412716You have to be retarded to buy from some seller with an email linked to a stoce account that you have no power over.
>>544406768monkey ear
>>544412247Just move on and use the WIN RATE button, limbusbro...
>>544412635>As opposed to what's happening to us now?The Homo brand of what is happening now is even worse and you know it. I understand the Korean thing with the fingers because that actually fucking happened, but I'm a lot less sympathetic for the plight of the Chinese man where everyone is always cucking him, even girls. Both of them are bad, but the Homo brand is even worse. We'll end up with dudes who have bulge jiggle physics while all the girls are retconned to be fully covered up and have no curves whatsoever.
>>544412764You seem triggered, buddy. It's normal for fans to want their favorite game to do well and make money and be popular. What's not normal is so-called "fans" who actively want their favorite game to fail and be low-budget niche with zero fanart forever, under the guise of gatekeeping. Who needs haters when your fans want your game to die all the same?
>>544412716youre supposed to buy from chink farms on taobao not indonesian rats on epicnpc
The strongest.
>>544412961bro i think you are gae...
>>544412747They clearly showed very early build. Chrono Ark itself had the most dogshit UI possible early in the early access. In the video itself they are reusing bunch of Chrono Ark assets. I'm more surprised they went with 3D, it's a big jump. I will say though, game looks clean, models and animations look nice. I'm having high hopes. Let them cook
>>544412961See, the difference is one is imaginary and another is happening right now in reality.
>>544413063show it
>everyone has a magna/khalipe but mefuck
>>544413063how
>>544412890I reroll for like a day for the "fun" of it, but I always end up buying (and then later selling) an account. Never had an issue. You clearly have no idea how the transactions actually go down.
Unlimited Blade Works
>>544412091Noone is playing this game for the men wormfaggot. Devs tried to chase gayshitbucks and changed their mind like many others so we are giving them a chance.
>>544412890Huh? Those selling CZN starter accounts are rerolling shops. They all sell guest accounts.Those who quit are the guys who have bound emails that they will """""surrender""""" which is a scam most of the times.
hoyoshit becoming mainstream was the worse thing to happen to gachaif genshin stayed an obscure chink game like hi3 (for the normalfag western audience) it would be so much better, probably would still play it. all the rewriting, homos and censorship killed it the blame is on netflix and pandemic
>>544413229Congratulations, you're Exhibit A.
>>544413209Woah nice.
>>544413209Does that work when your HP is full?
>>544410986>>544412669>>544412765LETS GOOOOO
>>544413019>chink farmsI remember Nikke did a banwave of chinkfarm bot accounts early on because they all used a script to skip the tutorial or something. Good times.
>>544413352EXPLODE
>>544413352>only 40ki thought zero had higher caps, congrats though
>>544413352Nutty.
>>544407495The freedom of deck building, to pick or not to pick a card, is what makes StS feel better than CZN for me though.Because StS's basic attack is so bad, you're forced to pick something to survive even if it's not the best. Then you build your deck on top of those cards that you're forced to pick, which makes each run special and fun.Most other card games play like a flowchart, boiling down to always refusing bad cards and picking good cards, giving players an easy sense of improving which make the games boring and repetitive really fast.CZN and Chrono Ark seems to also have this problem, one character only have 2-3 things they do well, once you know what they can do, that's it. They rely on having a shitload of characters that you can play to improve variety instead. They can never have the StS 'toolbox' experience where the run is so bad you have to pack 3 low-quality decks into your mega deck to solve the problem ahead.Well, threre's no way a game like StS can be made into gacha with its full features anyway, so I'm still glad I have CZN
>>544413337This is a harem game worm. It's not the first fake mixed gender that pivoted to harem and it won't be the last.
>>544413350Yes
>>544413143It's not imaginary, anon, it is imminent once your game attracts the Homo audience.
>>544409150>I dropped it as soon as it became a "log in to farm substats" every day kind of gameYou know this is the fate of czn too, right?
>>544413352I KNEEL
>>544413338>>544413350>Does that work when your HP is full?yes and also free shields every single turns.
>>544413352Zamn with this setup you almost don't need Mika
Game needs more males. We need more Kayron, Luke, Hugo.
>>544413206I always bind my accounts to Google when I reroll because I level good accounts a bit usually and google is faster. A big shame I can't sell them, there is no way to unbind accounts right?
>>544413620There's actual gameplay in this game. I'm actually having fun playing the game. I'm sure I wont forever, but I can imagine myself playing this for a while.
>>544413063ok but I think the 6.9k haru is funnier
>>544403904A hold and drag feature would do wonders here.
>>544413019if you use fuckbook, those failipino pagpag specialists sell CZN guest accounts for less than $4 and they even have Haru + 1-2 more SSRs. you just gotta find an account that has the triple trifecta supports (mika, cassius, nia) because they don't fucking know about the game and just rerolls to eat more pagpags.
>>544413715>more malesi have bad news bro...
Is the Void set on Tressa worth it or go 3 2piece sets?
>>544413749>A big shame I can't sell them, there is no way to unbind accounts right?I made this mistake once. I wont say which gacha, but I got super fucking giga whale lucky in one game, but I bound it to a gmail account that I actually use. Probably could have sold the account for a few hundred dollars. Alas. Usually there is no way to unbind from something like Google, that's why I never link it. I plan to sell the account when I get bored of the game.
>>544413749no way to unbind sadly. shouldve used stove account, despite how dogshit it is
>>544413897Kayron is going to get Voidmgoged by the red twink.
>>544413352>that Anchor Shot epiphany>Power Anchor>Anchor Drop>No chargeDo it again.
>>544413897that vampíre elf is a dude, isn't it?
>>544413063>punches you cutely
>>544413897I see 2 males. We need 7 more.
man Ima sucker for the cute card's art I wish it they were higher in quality
>>544413352can you post your magna save data please?
>>544413352i fucking hate Lift Anchors so much
>>544413897>only want 3 characterslove this game, saving is so easy
>>544414056Nah vampire elf twink will be Kayron battery.
Which way white man?
>>544414337Exhaust support for Kayron + the first stress healer (-10 stress per card exhausted)
>>544414416clearing basin with 6 males
>>544413897saving for elf twink, blue catboy and tiddy gunner
>>544414416Top row is a bingo for me.
>>544413352Most of the boss fighthttps://streamable.com/fatuiz>>544414214This is my best one, I pretty much make her an aoe counter bot with emphasis on duping Glacial Iron Fist for sustain. Energy Barriers are also nice neutrals.
>>544414416Veronica. Mei Lin. Selena. PERFECTIONif I didn't need a fucking sustain...
I hate Mika man. Haru feels like shit not gonna lie.
>>544414475>tiddy gunnerYou mean the indian sordswomaan, saar?
>>544413971>>544414052Shame, considering in how many games I have rerolled, I would have earned a pretty penny now
>currently level 36 at 51% to nextIt’s so over bros. I got filtered…
>>544407224>once StS2 comes outIn 2027?
>>544414574just kill them
>>544414585you should have prioritized the right mook. he's the buffer of the left mook.
>>544414607honestly forgot her name i just remember she was in beryl's faction
>>544414669Yeah, if you're actually a reroll fag, you can definitely make a few bucks by selling the (good) rerolls that (You) don't want. The question is whether or not putting up the listing and taking images and keeping track of the account and dealing with other people is worth the ~$10 a pop to you.
Because this game lacks PvP it's a given that we need PvE modes we can flex around.
>>544413897>>544414475>tiddy gunnerWhat the fuck, when she saved us she used her weapon like a sword, I thought she was a broadswordfag, but it's really another railgun.
have they tricked any of you to spend on card skins? ngl they look very nice
>>544414416Me(Kayron) solo everyone
>>544407224You can login and clear your daily stamina on this in less than 5 mins if you want, so I plan on playing both.
>>544414875WHAT'S THE FRIENDLIST FOR???????
>>544414567sweet thanks
>>544414883It's a gunblade.
>>544414786Yeah last time I fought them I did that, and for some reason I decided to not do that here. Still Haru feels clunky, I fell for that demo it's crazy.
>>544414950I'm guessing they'll let you borrow a friend's save data at some point, just another element of NTR for the k*reans.
>>544414883
>>544415093demos have finished saves, chaos runs with her will always feel like shit because of her kit
I kept losing the dice rolls to that one bug, and he kept mocking me.
>>544415093that demo is what you get after 1000 hours of chaos and memory frag grinding prob seeing how she critted all the time
>>544415158>Borrowing combatants is NTRSasuga gooks
>>544413103I get that.Victorian era supernatural detectives are not my preference of flavour, but I hope I can find something that fits my tastes within it.
>>544414865At least I don't have to deal with stove on my main account I guess
>>544415158That's actually a pretty neat idea. I think it's there just in case they want to add some multiplayer feature in future.
lmfao this is so not saving
can anyone shows me good Rei and Nia deck?I'm not sure the upgrade path of their cards.
>>544413897Which ones are 4* combatant? I think blue catboy, blonde loli and white hair blindfold gir.
>>544415265What multiplayer? Guild Chaos?
>>544415093was really disappointed to find out Haru needs Khalipe/Magna in order to function at all, it's really sad
>>544415219same but the big guy instead>what's needed?>eyes>3>eyes>1>eyes>4>can't find eyes>take yours
>>544415215>>544415225Yeah she takes a good while to scale up but once you get to the point of being able to Anchor Shot multiple times in a turn it's nice. Power Charge feels like total shit though, not a fan. I'll probably just keep using Kayron/Rei in the meantime.
>>544415020Railblade*
>>544415302oh? it's actually not bad? will need rei's 2 exhaust eating fat ass to get rid of the slop normal cards but that's very nice
>>544414416Mei Lin has the perfect virgin innocence aura
>>544415409Dating other players' combatants (only if you play on GLOBAL, Koreans can't do that and won't be able to date theirs if they got a date with someone else).
>>544403904The game already shows you how much damage you're going to do.
It's kinda weird how there's 2 4 star characters of each element, except green which only has 1 and red which has 4. You'd think they'd make one of those reds a green to make it more balanced...
bro why did no one tell me I had to grind for artifacts (memory fragments), and six of them at that?I thought gearing up your characters and decks through a roguelite mode was fun and unique, but I have to put up with this RNG shite too?
is this mistranslated?
Orlea has been kind of fun playing around with and seeing how big the jellies can go. I am only account lvl18 so no idea if she falls off later.
>>544407457As someone that quit HSR and now I'm playing CZN, don't know this guy but he's correct.HSR gameplay just kept sucking more and more
this card is actually discard instead of exhaust, i feel so scammed
>>544414931can we even buy them? they feel like bangboo currency from ZZZ
>>544415638Date feature is only available for global. It's disabled in Korea because their waifus are always on a date with Owen by default.
>>544415746Just weirdly misplaced text, probably supposed to say +15% critical chance, 102% damage.
>>544415902that makes a lot more sense, ty
>>544415729I'm more mad at partner faction counts, that makes sense because red is the early game chaos
>>544412091Shut it tranny.
>>544415734give feedback to remove that system completely, it's horrid mihoyoslop/epicseven dogshit considering how many resources and time you need to raise one character even before thinking about the shartifacts
>>544410406I hope you keep it, Harubro
>>544415757Right? While I never cared about HSR's story ever, year 1 (or rather 6 months in) gameplay was very fun. Seele was very fun. Then it got worse and worse with the powercreep and characters playing themselves.
can i do anything with all these extra partner dupes
I want to make a second team with Tressa and Magna. First team already has Mika and Cassius.Do I use Rei or Nia?
>>544415749Orlea falls off so hard you'd rather bench her past lv30.
If you have multiple anchor shots in your deck, does the stacking damage for number of times used stack per card or is universal?
>>544416175Rei.
>>544416175we're not cool enough to use nia here
We have Chaos Manifestation and Zero System so where's the Nightmare something?
>>544416175rei with void card buff goes hard with tressa, you need exactly that epiphany though because the other ones are useless2 copies of +4 morale attack is good too
mei is so fun bwos
>>544416029yeah I was honestly fine with the myriad of resources and gunk you need to spend stamina on to level up your characters since it's a set number of resources you'll need, but then adding more unnecessary RNG on top of that kind of ruined my funI freaking hate grinding for shit that more often than not just turn out to be useless, it feels like such a waste of time
>>544411327Ruina is a deck builder but also not a roguelike in any way. Also someone got super angry last thread when Anon said Limbus has a good story so why stir the pot further?
>>544416397NighTmaRe, hope that helps
>>544416038Seele was my favorite character, it's sad they didn't buff her.
>>544416520disagreeing = super angryprojectmoon really is a cult huh
>>544416465holy satisfying
Mei Lin my beloved.
>>544414120>>544413897you decide if this is a boy or not
>>544416612Blame all the CN dudes with perfect relics resetting for a week to get the perfect t0 clear to make her look relevant.
>>544406340Cuckbro...
I CAN'T BEAT DEEP TRAUMA DIFFICULTY 4WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?????
>>544416465I have Mei but I don't have another passion combatant yet to fuel her to do this.
>>544416683probably male... shame, it would have been the perfect flattie
>>544416751it's an enigma because you have to whale for the gear but then you have enough xp to just promote to 50 by then
>>544416751Probably bad teambuilding. Which Chaos you wanna go for?
>>544416702>2 years in>no bro actually x is still usable if you mega whale for perfect relics and just spend the whole day resetting for the perfect moc runnever understood these people
>>544414416despite being the most used, no one posting Mika 2nd stress image
>>544416891I don't know which chaos has the best divinities for a mei lin deck. Where can we even see this information?
>>544416751shields and the memory fragments
>>544416920We're probably going to see it with Haru honestly, or maybe not because the majority of people have decided she's only above average while the hoyotroons attach their identity to a character way too much.
>>544408198>>544408425>AI schizo is still at it
>>544417094Mei Lin farms Blue Pot.
>>544416751You don't have the stats because your gear is shit and you haven't invested in your potential tree. Basically the balance is not great at difficulty 4 and you're getting stat checked. Maybe the devs really expected people to waste mats and energy on shit memory frags. Just forget about clearing and get to captain level 40.
>>544417124desu it's e7 devs. they've buffed and nerfed already and they'll do it again. so for whoever likes haru I think a year or two down the line she'll get a buff if she's considered too weak by then.
rabi expy...
>>544412612Sadly i'm stop rerolling.
why does my stress go op when nothing happens? the enemy doesn't attack or debuff, I don't have any equipment and only shield, and yet my stress goes upI've got breakdowns more often out of nowhere than from getting hit
>>544416751match the chaos you're doing to your dps elementalso getting some rudimentary memory frags helps
>>544417179>>544417094Really? Not World 3?
>>544417315check the deep trauma icon and see what triggers stress of your units.
I really think it's a bad decision to not have a design for our protos mc, most of the story cg sections feels flat because they always do it in a way that never shows the mc.
>>544409202based cassius enjoyer
>>544408467>>544408543The cutest girls are retarded.
>>544416662>corrupteda-anon...
>>544417416If you're not strong enough to clear 4 don't think of farming her best set yet. Just do the ones you're most likely to clear.
>>544415179Why does this game have Sinder in it?
>>544417416Oh yeah, this drops too if you're doing the -1 deck
>>544417548Sorry but that's how we build affection around here.
im on a 4090 and dlaa on wuwa would literally be unplayable. dlaa on this game runs just fine at max fps.
>>544416751You did max out your fragments, right?
>>544417423I don't have that icon because I'm not in the trauma mode
>>544417315a random character will get 3 stress at the start of every turn from 2nd turn onward
>less than 3 hours >530bwos...
>everyone sane at the end of Chaos 3/3 purple flavorthat's a first, I had like 2 breakdows on Kay and 1 on Mika
Who should be my 6th
>>544415179My wife.
i have a full time job. how possible is it for me to play this game and still have time for cleaning my house, cooking food, masturbating, etc.? is it worth spending time that could be spent wisely gooning or is it a dogshit crock of piss?
Why do I have to install a bitcoin miner to play this game on PC
for future bakers The nightmare is ongoing... >>>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerHaru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12Yuki - Unknown - Unknown - Leaked/Expected around 11/12>Current Events/Upcoming ContentA Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12Galactic Calamity Seasonal content (Gives one 5* dupe of your choosing per season) - Expected around 11/12>Basic Guides and Introductionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg>Deck building simulatorhttps://czndecks.com/>PC Client (Stove)https://www.onstove.com/en/download>Reroll guidehttps://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640>Reroll tipsReroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for HaruYou have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)>Cards aren't savingCards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)Reminder to READ your cards and to ignore shitposters, salesfags, and cuckposters
the mindbreaking starts to lose its novelty once you reach lategame.You bitches and sons of bitches have been through hell and back more than once! Get your head in the game!
>>544417958>no dupe CassOwen.
>>544416620T h you are not helping the point you're trying to make if you immediately say "PM IS A CULT".
>>544418009Don't play this game if you don't have time. Just go back to your gooning life.
>>544418009You can burn your daily stamina very fast if you want, but can also play the roguelike mode with no limit.
>>544418043>Reminder to READ your cardsThey're translated like shit, so yeah don't add that
>>544412237Yes.Long story short: while Part 3 was still being repeatedly delayed, Paradox had a huge crossover with 7 other hentai RPG maker games and vice versa since it had the whole timeline corrosion plotline visiting parallel worlds. Heroes and villains from those worlds had ended in MGQ's world and had roam around with some culture shock of the job system and randomized encounters.The boy fighting Luka is Hakunen from Three Charms and in the Three Charms version of the collab the Fake Hero becomes a boss Hakunen has to fight.
>>544416751Post your team. Remember that Defense boosts Heal value, try to spread out Meltdowns all over your team instead of letting them chain meltdown one of your characters. This one seems to be the killer for most people.
>>544418009the secret is to get a wfh job where you can play games on the clock
>>544418009you can play the game casually just fine
>>544418043>/gfg/ reminderfaggot detected
>>544412954nta but it stops working after a while.
>>544418009just put your game on auto while you do other stuff for staminaaside from that it's just chaos, which is like, 2 runs a week if you don't job
>>544418009stick to gooning
>>544418376>try to spread out Meltdowns all over your team instead of letting them chain meltdown one of your charactersHow do you do that? You can't change team formation in the middle of a run, right?
>>544418165NTA but all I know about it, was the fact it was a niche dedicated community obsessed with the obscure lore of Lob corp and Ruina, fairly decent 'anime' community supposedly, then Limbus happened and it went to shit really fast and really hard.
>>544418352Kazuya is based.Kill them all.
>>544418318>read the enemywait yeah those are also shoddily tled what the fuck do we read then>>544418407its 1/10 the word count without all the extra shit and no one else baked the past two threads fuck you and the previous two threads were broken too.
>>544416397The simulation itself. It's meant to be the dream simulated by Zero with all our data to replicate Chaos but everything is getting weird with the gods popping up.Hence the title: it's Zero's Nightmare of Chaos.
Can I get some comp suggestions?
>>544416397>>544418672It's just SU from HSR ripped wholesale.
>>544418772Agree
>>544418009The chaos levels can go on for over 30 minutes and you might not even clear. This game is for NEETS
>>544418738mmm nyo
>>544416251different stacks per card, can't cheat all of em
>>544418663>its 1/10 the word count without all the extra shit and no one else baked the past two threads fuck you and the previous two threads were broken too.Lotta words to tell us you're a shitter from /gfg/.
>>544414416It's between Tressa and Selena, but I think Tressa does it more for me.
>>544418542By letting them land hits instead of rushing to undo the meltdown. Once the Meltdown ends the other characters get -10 Stress and the characters becomes playable with ~30% of the stress bar filled. So if you get them back ASAP you are setting them up for a rapid meltdown again.
>>544418672When it's put like this it makes it seem like Zero is supposed to be a much more important thing in the story/lore than it is.
>>544418563If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>544418772yeah but I can't ryona firefly in SU
>>544418738Veronica - Gayron - MikaMagna - Selena - ReiDitch Haru
bros I can't... the hp bloat...
>>544418960RIN SEEDEDMARRY HER NOWWILL HER MYTHICAL CUT MARRIAGE PROPOSAL LINE INTO EXISTENCEbut at this point I'd reroll if you don't like what you have. 3 5 stars is like the minimum if you reroll + pity discount banner + pity standard banner, which can all be done in like 3-4 days
>>544417958Rin obviously
>>544418960>can see credit numberYOUR ACCOUNT IS MINE
>>544418563Yeah it attracted a fucking awful community since every snowflake saw the androgynous characters and uncommon art style + literary references so they like acting like it's "the only good gacha" and won't stop shilling it relentlessly. Most "Limbus fans" deserve the rope.I still think it has a good story though and is a fun if deeply flawed game.
>>544418738ignore the brown who hates haru tits
Anyone make decent guides for each of the characters? Doesn't have to be super in depth. Just enough for me to get a vibe for what I should expect from them.
>>544418913It should be but guess it will be explored later because the point of her asking us to go there is so she can get data in the gods and maybe the future too. The Zero system wasn't meant to spawn those gods in it, so she theorized either the simulated Chaos is built enough the real gods invaded or Zero somehow replicated the gods that we don't even have proper knowledge of.Either way, delving into it is valuable knowledge, but that in itself justifies why they can suffer legit mindbreaks inside. Zero's simulation may be a ''safe'' virtual world but what you are feeling inside is more realistic that they expected.
>>544418870im not your schizo bwo i dont even use the gfg on this site anymore i just use eightchan instead and seeing that image again are you some brownoid that started the whole threadwar autism to split the generals like some little brownoid
>>544418165Lobocorpo was 4chan schizocore alongside Black Souls and EYE before everything turned to shit with Limbus.
>>544419309don't think there's any guides for everyone out there in english
AP battery acquired
>>544416620NTA but you look really mad right now.
>>544419519bwo dont reply to the bitchschizo
https://x.com/CZN_Official_JP/status/1983194092898267206Update tomorrow
>>544419228I hate referenceslop. so much media uses it nowadays. the nostalgia/memberberry shit.
>>544419672>bug fixI want a new character already, Haru is so boring.
First try. Some of the gay ass mobs are more dangerous than the boss
>>544419782But Haru likes doing rimjobs.
>>544418165>>544418563>>544419567I miss the Lobotomy Corp days. Nobody knew what the fuck was happening and innocuous shit going out of control fast and spiraling. The period of discovery.
>>544418892Cool tech. Never thought of that. But still the balance of difficulty 4 is wonky without upgraded memory frags. It's not possible to tank hits in the interior because everything hits way too hard. I'll remember this stress management strat when I get to yellow memory frags.
>>544419827yeah the boss was surprisingly easy compared to the ass-raping mobs
>>544419827My issue are the mobs that throws the bombs at the end of their turn, and you have to use attack cards to lower their cost. I run Mika, Amir, and Renoa. And Mika and Amir I have setup as support so they don't have all that many attack cards.
>>544410702>>544410986wait, anon, what does codex 8 mean? thought there was only 5, don't tell me there's more.
>>544419519>i just use eightchanOK, so you're ACTUALLY gay since you use redditlite.>hat started the whole threadwar autism to split the generalsI did far more than that, rest assured.
>>544418915I don't give a single shit about any of PM work, but I love Binah tits so much...
>>544418772>>544418794>hoyotards think they made anything lol
>>544419886Limbus also suffers greatly from pacing issues. Them releasing 2 story chapters a year is pretty bad. Interludes used to serve as setup for the Canto but this season they were instead spent on princess maker stuff and the worst collab slop I've ever seen in my life. This coupled with the fact that the game ideally wants you to run the 1 hour weekly mode every week is actually insulting. The director going "just drop it and come back later bro" was fucked up.Chaos Zero Nightmare.
>>544419672Update already happened.
>>544420165Anon can't into time zone.
>>544419309I started writing one but got kinda bored, will continue laterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/10DFJL9PGhmY3Ss5Y7cWcVDiZoIn56L1IfT4MPMMMsj0/
>>544420223>lives outside of America>expects me to give a shitlole
>24 starsgo on without me bros...
>>544420165>Fixing one bugDamn the devs are fast
>>544419763It works because they do their own spin on the source material so it's not just "hey we read book X look at how cool we are" but it feels consistent with the source material in spirit. But enough about PM. Limbus is nice and all but it does not play anywhere near as good as CZN. It's a very cut and dry game mechanically. Either something is good or it is not.
Level-let here.What is this Codex people talk about? Is it better than Chaos to farm decks?
>>544403360HOLY, *real* chuubas played /our/ game!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeDqtbd0GJIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaeIMiXY4EYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VxSZLQDhSohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ_Bx4C15JI&pp=ygUn44Kr44Kq44K544K844Ot44OK44Kk44OI44Oh44KiIGhvbG9saXZl0gcJCQcKAYcqIYzvHow the hell did they got HoloX??? This wasn't cheap at all.
>>544420316I don't think I'm gonna bother doing that content until I reach max level.
>try owen in the demo>he just gives extra hits with a damage nerfwho even needs this
i havent done the math on it, is merging materials inefficient? i need 10 of the blue manuals and im out of energy so i want to merge 30 of the lesser rarity ones to make 10 blue ones. is this bad or is the ratio 1:1?
>>544420495It's a permanent buff, so it makes Haru's anchor always +1 hit.
>>544420446I know jackshit of Holo Live. Explain to me how important this is and why it is good.
>>544420446no way they just picked up sloppathis had to be sponsoredhow did they afford it? They could have put that money into the polishing the fucking game
>>544420446>all 1h-1h30ishI'm nooooooooticing
>>544420316>14d Tick tock.
>>544420254If you need help I can throw you my autistic writeups on Beryl, Nia and Orlea...
what does the variable frame setting do
>>544420660big following means you get newfriends, assuming the normies dont' get scared off by the sloppa vibes and meltdowns
>>544420612would this work with gayron's single target exhaust nuke
I wonder if JP got the same dogshit AI TL as us or are we the only region that got MTL.
what gear sets are people farming for and for which characters
>Put Cassius in two of Haru's trial teams>DON'T put him on rate-up>Put Beryl on rate-up insteadWhy
any non-gacha games similar to this? preferably with anime girls too
>>544420524It's very bad if you intend to build multiple characters. The stamina for what you get is so bad that using 3 of one rarity to make 1 of the next tier is ass. Especially on partners that seem to be 3 times as expensive in materials for some reason. But once you're starting to focus on two teams you might as well though.
>>544420934I think 1 cost, atk up, def up and critdmg are all pretty nice to useother than that just match colors
>>544420998Chrono Ark was mentioned a billion times for a reason. Other than that, it's not anime but I also shill Vault of the Void if you can ignore the art.
>>544420316this shit resets??????????????? FUCK
>>544420446>Holo XWhere are the real chuubas?
>>544420998Avarice Dungeon for hentai StS w/ debuffs
>>544420674it is sponsored. CZN JP twitter advertised it.
>>544420254finish it, bro. I just gave this to my friends.
>>544420660Hololive is one of the big two vtuber corps in Japan. And the biggest overseas vtuber corp overseas. It's good in the sense that they have a shitload of fans, and if vtubers are playing it, they'll influence move people to play. Vtuber fans are also paypigs, so the chances of them supporting the game monetarily is quite high compared to thirdies. More players = more money = bigger development budget.
>>544413897The paintress and the blue cat girl are the only ones I'm interested inGuess it'll take a while before I get to pull
Zeta is the best partner for khalipe right?
is the zero system purple mode easy or do some normals first?
>>544421236>if they don't change Owen ASAP the game will get pawned by vtuber fans>if they change Owen ASAP the devs will be pawned by cucked koreans because they will assume the game was changed solely by chinks and vtubersIt's so over...
>>544420446i'll watch la+, she is funny
>>544421154The second one does, yeah.
>>544421131Yeah I've had Chrono Ark on my wishlist forever, I just haven't picked it upDarkest Dungeon with mods is pretty good but no a card game >>544421191Cool I'll check it out
>>544420952fucker you just cursed me into a dupe of cassius
>>544421413Enter.
>>544414416i want to give veronica a hug
>>544421413Idk what they do, since I only plan to roll for Partners once I finish Standard 300 Pity. For now I just use Wilhelmina from Zeronium shop. Can't ever go wrong with defense in Khalipe and thanks to Overpower she can get the enemies Weakness Broken easy enough.
okay but did any cc non gacha or non sponsored like our game
>>544421576
>>544420861any and all attack cards
Haru is so boringgive me the next one already
>>544420952if you've played Haru and Cassius beyond difficulty 4 you would know whyhe fucking sucks ass
>>544421413if it's a 5* that obviously matches yea, but ego manifests might make it close?
>>544411339He does more damage and with the RPG he can just exhaust the bullets he can't use for damage. I wanted to like the 5* but he's just not doing enough damage to justify him. His kit's more of a mess.
Fan arts doko?I want to see some Haru art...
>>544420952Beryl is better than Haru
Why won't /czn/ love her...?
I'm tired of the stupid game removing my shitHow does the save value even work
>>544421776Nip artists unfortunately doesn't like gook designs
>>544404827>People who can't play without heals should quit CZNheals will be required sooner or later, enemy hp inflation will eventually overcome even the craziest decks if the team doesn't have enough heals, it's just how these games work man
>>544420446HoloX was, at one point (it's prime) the biggest talent in all of Hololive; I miss when all 5 were together...
>>544420998Last Evil and X-Angels, both are h-games.
>>544421719He is great, just not for healing. Until Manifestation 2 at which point he starts shitting out heals like no one else other than Mika. You use him with characters who have extremely powerful blowout cards like Gayron or Khalipe thanks to his Joker being completely goddamn stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIr_ONjUjSMTHE PROBLEM...
>>544421719You clearly don't have the right deck with him. Try to get something like this.
>>544421818I do, I rerolled for an entire day to get her.She's fun, hot and mega for (me)
>>544421905just shield it instead. Shields are superior until they give enemies piercing damage or something
Fuck...why...
>>544421905lol nomore damage dealers = quicker battles = no need for healing
>got orleaSo her, tressa and who is the last?
>>544421818I do
>>544421952once my resources run dry the tierlists will start calcifying...
>>544421905Healing isn't a problem as long as healers won't start overhealing any damage from elites.
>>544421958damn
>>544421849The higher the difficulty, and turning on deep trauma, the higher your chance of saving what you have. Don't worry about it. It starts getting reliable past captain level 40.
>>544420824Imma going to write every character but I don't own many of them so a bit will be theory crafting so please watch it later to see if I didn't write anything stupid>>544421209Give me some more hours
>>544421849nobody fucking knows lmaohopefully level 6 chaos will just save everything
>>544421998Which tanks you got? Since Orlea is a hybrid I tend to run her and Cassius or her and Khalipe alongside my damage dealer.
>>544421998HuGOD
>>544422043rin is CUTE and pretty cool even in a non goon senseI run rei renoa rin for a super scuffed dual dps void comp and it's quite fun
>>544421818It's so bullshit that she needs hyper optimized supports to stack her own buffs to do damage while everyone else works right off the bat.
>>544421998umm I suggest not investing into Orlea really
>>544421952it's great that all the characters, 4 star or 5 star, are super good to the point where every website and influencer's tier list is different.
you invested mats into controller characters besides mika? reroll
>>544421998Both Tressa and Orlea are Hugo enablers
>>544420446Isn't one hour barely enough to do tutorial if you don't skip? What's the point... this game's main fun showcase is chaos runs...
>>544422106Yeah it's kind of nuts. Half the time though the shuffle is just an AP 1. It's really hard to get 3 cards to equal 5 consistently.
>>544422426Those were mandated PR streams. They don't care about the game
>>544421776What kind of fan art anon?
>still no tierlistOkay, but what's the fun tierlist?
This game is so good bros, it's the first time I've seen a gacha where the characters have such a huge variety of builds because of how the epiphanies/saves work. They could make potentials more interesting, fire their narrative writer, make character designs a little more consistent and on theme, but overall I hope they don't drop the ball and fuck this game up.
Reset in 10 minutes?
>>544422426I remember they did the same kind of thing for Heaven Burns Red where they had Vtubers play it, but it takes like 10 hours to really get anywhere unless you skip everything.
>>544421818just wait for future supports that can better shuffle her deck. she will be peak
>>544422613whoever I pulled
>>544422765Yeah
What is a:>basic>neutral>uniquecard in regards to potential leveling? I want to waste as few resources as possible early on. Like what would I prioritize for Khalipe to buff her shields?
>>544422613in every single card roguelike, out of turn actions like extra attacks and counterattacks are the quintessential monkey brain fun
Why is the reset at odd hoursIt's like 3am in korea
>>544422765remember to restart client and make an actual cup of coffee for yourself
>>544422705Agreed. They got the formula really right with AP to farm stuff like EXP but Chaos being free to rerun to get cards as wanted.They either really knew what they were doing or got really lucky because this game is comparable to indie card games.>>544422838Nice>>544422880Understood
>>544422705Good news, they did. Sadly before that they fired the *good* writer that made the setting.
>>544422613Tressa and Cassius are the easy S tiers for me
>>544422765only if you're an asiaGOD
>>544422613Literally every character can be good in the right deck. Even characters like rin and lukas who have really messy as fuck decks. Right now I'd just try every character and see what you like.
>>544422840Basic are the 100% damage, 100% heal cards. Neutral is shop/monster cards. Unique is any character card with a name that isn't white.
>>544422840Vulture Ejection is the only Unique from her starting deck if that's what your asking
>>544422220I have khalipe and I'm running her with beryl and Mika(OP chick fits everywhere).I'm not having much success in chaos tho so might try her with orlea +1. Don't have Cassius ofc. >>544422237>>544422414Fuck off>>544422259She pretty tho
>>544421998Beryl
>>544422989>Unique is any character card with a name that isn't white.Thank you, didn't even notice the names were color coded.
Don't really like how most units don't use their basics and shields
>>544422765Oh shit. Almost forgot to use my date tickets. Really wish I didn't have to save those to fix mind breaks.
>>544422705What the other anon said. They acknowledged the criticism and said they will change stuff.But the rabbit hole is that the Korean WN Lovecraftian writer was already fired prior. Likely why there is a huge drop in quality by Chapter 4.
Leaked character
what the fuck do I even buy from the basin shop???
>>544422705it's unironically the best gacha i've played in all my almost 12 years of gachaing, people like to dismiss gacha as "not real games" and they're usually correct but this feels like a full fledged game on day 1i think i already have close to 100 hours if not more which is more than i can say for a lot of "actual games" and i only just finished farming decent saves for one team
Battle Pass Partner guide is uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAmw7SecsyI
>>544423037If you don't want the real answer (Hugo) then stop asking us.
>>544422989why are there some cards with a unique tag?
>>544423151I have been waiting to GET some because my Mika got the AP card cloned but I link crashed to win so she still got mindbroken.
>>544423138I want to use shields but heals are so much more useful. The problem with them is that unless a character is shield based those values are low as fuck. Supports have the worst basics because they have the worst damage. I think the only basics I'll use is kayrons because it's quite damaging and his heal can do up to 80 hp and generate his resource mechanic.
>>544423180>barghest with drills
>>544422852>followups, counters, EoT triggersThis is also what tickles my monkey brain. I don't even know why, but it does.
>>544423464because AP is the fun police, and those attacks ignores it
>>544423352Unique means you can't dupe them. You have multiple chances to dupe things in the harder difficulties but only once in the lower.
>>544423217anyone?
>>544423037Beryl Orlea Khalipe is my main team for Chaos. It should serve you extremely well. The main thing you want to decide is if you want to go for Upgrade route on Beryl or not, it will determine how you play. Also pick up focused slime cards for Orlea, RNG is her worse bane and no matter which route you go it will be better if you know what Slimes you will be getting.If you went the Upgrade route with Beryl remember that every card she has at the end of turn counts so Khalipe Ultimate actually allows you to make a nuclear turn.
>>544422705So far, it's my second favorite gacha of all time. It might even end up being my favorite, but I think it has to be a bit more generous than it's going to end up being in order to make it there. If it's a stingy game and I don't get to play with new units very often, it will probably remain my second favorite gacha.
2 dupe haru my beloved... 0 cost anchor shot stackmaxxing...
Rin, Rei and Orlea.. does it work?
>>544423637These two
>>544422613rin is top tier fun
>>544423729Replace Orlea with another DPS. She's trash.
>>544423397It's the other way around. Shielding is much better than healing. The issue is it's usually hard for any one character to get a critical mass of shields to do well, which is why Khalipe and Magna are so good and why 3 tank comps work and Amir is godlike in them but useless outside of them.
>>544423729Orlea only really works right now in Kayron and Tressa teams, and Beryl teams with specific epiphanies.
>>544423829Oh yes replace the passive healer with a damage dealer (that isn't Veronica) in a fucking Rin deck, brilliant.
middle or right? i feel like i'd get 5 cards on average so middle would be a 0 energy 270% damage card, where as right would be a 2 energy 410% damage card
>>544424189Renoa works
My wife (provisional)
>>544424268Middle
>got knotted hunting for Niaoof
>>544424321someone else who runs rin rei ren? I'm not crazy then
>>544418738Kayron Tressa Mika is hilarious, Tressa shits out Agony and exhaust cards and even Kayron can be built to stack Agony for her or just benefit from all the exhaustingVeronica Selena is kinda good, Selena can implant red weakness for a turn but Veronica's ballista doesn't benefit from it, unless it expires before the extra attack never really checked
there's simply not enough rolls..
>>544424695That's why you reroll
>>544422705>the characters have such a huge variety of buildsSorry to be a bit of a negative cunt but most of the characters don't have a variety of builds. They have one good build and you basically pray the dupe chances and epiphanies work to your advantage in making that build work.Renoa is always, always going to want some sort of discard/draw engine with multiples of her bullet generating cards to buff her stronger skills for example.Mika is always going to want to boost her healing and AP generation to it's absolute maximumTressa is always going to want to boost her shadow dagger and agony application as high as possible.The rest are pretty similar. They have one singular strong gameplan, and the variation is in how well you can build towards it while dealing with RNG mechanics.Orlea is one of the only characters where I can think of 3 relatively distinct builds that all rely on specific epiphanies that benefit one of her slimes or a generalist build that focuses on the card gen itself and they're also pretty teammate dependent.
>>544423650It just seems so awkward to decide who to upgrade. If I go Khalipe, and dont get dmg upgrades I get fucked. If I go beryl, I can get decent retain dmg, but Khalipe is there just for her ulti and again, if I'm not drawing that often I get fucked. Compare that to the shadow chaos where I use renoa+Owen... no matter what I roll renoa absolutely recks anything single target. Mika ofc is goat everywhere. That free heal per spent AP... absolutely busted. I'll try orlea instead of mika, might be cool.
Are created cards counted as basic or neutral cards?
Huh so that's why it's roguelike?
>>544424906That's the in-universe explanation yeah.
Am I missing something about Mei Lin? Do you have to get 2 dupes before she starts doing damage?
>>544424824Owen.>Wind Charge support Owen>Wind Slash cleaver Owen>Gale + Breaker Owen>Defense-scaling Owen
>>544423985The only shield character I've been using is hugo he has two shield cards but the only reason to use the shield card is that it increases hunt stacks.
>>544425005No. You just pair her with either Veronica or the Rabbit and inflict Passion weakness on enemies before you duplicate semi infinite 0-cost punches.
Your opinion on this?
>>544424824This is a damn lie. There are more optimal choices true but you definitely can pick a "worse" option because it plays off a specific synergy and come out better in a comp. There are very few characters like Khalipe where your only real guideline is to pick Silver Veil no matter what because it's THAT good.
I don't need a Mika powercreep, I need a crit support for this fucking brick house Luke
>>544425045Can you get it so that his wind charge affects other characters?
>>544404792In my experience it's typically brown third-worlders.
Why do some cards in the hand sometimes have golden auras? They don't epiphany or anything when used.
>>544425045How many of these are "builds" and how many of these are luckshitting into 2-3 copy cards of the same card?
>>544425223lots of breakslots of damagespam cards, stack boostsdie to the counter bleed dog
>>544425223Hottest part about her is her ahoge
what kind of card types are attack cards? neutral? basic? unique?
>>544404792I used to not mind m*les, but ever since Genshin I've grown to despise them. At least Hugo is good.
>>544425250>pick Silver Veil no matter what because it's THAT good.I dont think I've ever got one. Everything is just +shield or dmg.
>>544425223Very nice ahoge
This knot nigga actually looks scary
>>544425278Yes, one variation of Wind Charge (the -25% damage one) benefits his allies as demonstrated in Haru's demo.>>544425385Multiple runs are needed for consistency but you'd want multiple builds anyway. It's part of the grinding process.
>>544425359Means the secondary effect is active, stuff like Combo or a Retain bonus.
>>544425359they have a special effect that can be activated thenlike mei's combo cardsor rin's stance shitor renoa's bullet-powered attacksbasically means "it's a good time to use this card"
>>544425223reminder this is Mei Lin's true form
>>544425045>fucking Owen stole all the build diversityI kept silent before, but this meta NTR is the LAST. FUCKING. STRAW.
>>544425359their conditional bonuses are "activated"comboberyl's retainrenoa's "if you have bullet"
>>544424824Beryl>Retain scaler build>Choco draw support build>Extra Damage Upgrade build>Mark build
>>544425223Pic Rel
Reminder that at affinity 10 you unlock a cute background for your character. Cassius' is funny.
I feel like this is unintended. Like the upgrade was suppose to add recovered to it.
>>544425223
>>544425223My wife has never been so strong!
Oho!
>>544425660Extra damage Beryl is mad fun but retain Beryl is still my favorite. Buffed with Owen's Wind Charge she practically oneshot one of Chaos 5-5 bosses.
>>544425531>>544425563>>544425657I need to pay more attention then. My Veronica's draw card like always has the border and I don't remember it having an impactful bonus.
>>544425858Do any of these zoomers even know what ML is?
>>544425796That upgrade increases the price of the base card, but using other healing cards decreases it.
>>544425606Yeah the devs definitely put so much work on Owen's kit because he's the starter character just like Mika. His kit looks basic at first glance until you delve deeper into his variations.
>>544425997Well they did release a porn gacha recently, so it's not as dead as you think
>>544425796This needs retain to be good
>>544425223wish I have her over orlea and rin
>>544425795You know the game is unfinished when it's missing 4 characters for this.
New thread:>>544426231>>544426231>>544426231
35 to 40 is taking forever
>>544424847You underestimate Khalipe. If nothing else she pulls her weight by the fact her AoE is fantastic and comes with some decent shields for the cost. I have almost never regretted playing empowered Aquilla or something that activated that 3rd Veil stack (unless the boss is not doing anything or is just summoning, then best to keep that shield). One good thing is that Culture, Orlea Slimes and Beryl shots all come with Retain so you can treat it as "pseudo draw" if you got two options to pick from always go for the one that does not have Retain.As for general power, my priority for Epiphanies is always in order of Khalipe, Beryl, Orlea. Due to her nature as a healer her Epiphanies are not at all guaranteed to do anything worthwhile. Khalipe wants pretty much every card from her deck, even the 2 cost Basic, so focusing on her is not a bad idea. Beryl loves Epiphanies but if you get Unlimited Firepower or Heavy Weapons Expert you'll find it much less impactful than getting Aquilla or Overpower IMO.
Who do I level bros? I got 3 amir.
>>544425997Muv Luv is still required reading, so I hope so
>>544426303Mika, Khalipe, and maybe Beryl
>>544425487They feel rare as shit on Aquilla that's for damn sure. I get them on Rally fairly consistently though.
How do I get these?Should I quit this game if I'm only here for the males?Should I draw lewd fanart for this game?
>>544426535thanks
>>544426561they reset weekly
Why tf are mei lin dupes so trash? Her ego 1 looks literally useless?
>>544421540That one's for Magna. Khalipe mostly scales from def.
>>544426561weekly reset but you can spend 60 stamina to unlock a loot chest when you're out
>>544424990the out-of-universe explanation is they thought they could get japanese people to play a deckbuilder roguelike with enough budget
At least she isn't Hugo...
>>544427137Lol no, getting another vulture from draw card is cruical and who doesn't like getting free counter attacks from shielding from their attacks?
>>544425660Tell me more about mark beryl, any good pairings that arent mika?
>>544421883That's why BA doesn't have any porn.
>>544421998Hugo.
>>544421998kayron!
>>544422432That shuffle seems like it would be cracked on a Renoa team. God I wish I had pulled Cassius.
S tier emotional support
>>544426561yes draw owen getting pegged
