Bulma absorbtion edition?A new game and two projects will be announced at the Genkidamatsuri event on January 26 2026Xenoverse 2's Future Saga chapter 3 is coming out on October 30thFighterZ new balance update is outJump: Gathering announcedGekishin Squadra is outXV2 FUTURE SAGA CH.3 LAUNCH TRAILER:youtu.be/FtxSegpS7TI GEKISHIN SQUADRA TOPPOyoutu.be/2sX9nEP_KIU FIGHTERZ SS4 DAIMA GOKUyoutu.be/fVtdkNqbiKE?t=96 SPARKING ZERO DLC 3youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBU youtu.be/WYNsTMcQBg8 >Useful links:rentry.org/dft79XV2 news:>Future Saga 3 DLC on the way, release date TBA>Festival of Universes 3 ended, both Universe 6 and 11 won twice between 4 platforms.SDBH News/Resources:>SDBH has ended...We are all Heroes! RIP 05/09/24>SDBH Database: www.carddass.com/dbh/sdbh_mm/cardlist/>Deck Autism: rentry.org/sdbhdecklistDBSDV news:>You can have a team of up to 8 characters (7 cards and an avatar)>3 card types: Impact, Rush, and Boost>CAA/TAA have been renamed as Action Skills>If you collect all 7 dragon balls in-game and summon Shenron, you'll pull an guaranteed Super Rare card>Avatars can also be Namekians or Fridges>If you max out your SDBH avatar's level and transfer them over to Superdivers, you can unlock default SDBH avatar skins for your Superdivers avatar>HOW TO FIND YOUR XENOVERSE 2 SAVE ON STEAM guide:steam > userdata > [your steam id] > 323470 > remote > DBXV21DBXV2.sav should be there, which is your savefileIf you wish to delete it to try reimporting or for other reasons, disable steamcloud on both Xenoverse 1 and 2 first.Kakarot:>Daima DLC Part 2 will release in early 2026DB The Breakers:>Season 9 launched with DBZ Broly Raider>XV Booru: Upload drawfaggotry herehttp://xenoverse.booru.org/Rest in Peace, Akira Toriyama (3/1/2024)Thank youLAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>544446459
Critique my Daima x Super fanfic lore>>544661497>>544662164How likely will this happen in the actual anime?
>No Dragon Ball Minus Minus One story where you relive Olibu's past when humans are able to take on Super Perfect Cell-tier beings>it's also a secret Saint Seiya parody since it's ancient not!china/not!greek
>>544658695>but maybe it was a shorter arc like saiyan saga?Even saiyan saga lasted for a while, about 47 chapters (If we count it from Raditz's arrival to Vegeta's defeat). I feel Goku's heart virus would act up and Goku would be taken away no matter what, and maybe Vegeta would turn out to be a super saiyan too but wouldn't help much. From there on it's hard to tell. I think the characters would win the initial fight, but the androids would escape (As Piccolo immediately notes the mountains can be used to escape), and they would absorb civilians' energy to become stronger like Cell did. I also theorize that everyone would realize that ki absorption is troublesome and this would be used to explain why Trunks has a sword, and Goku would eventually get Nyoibo back, and I theorize the last bit because Trunks' sword is quickly get ridden of, and there was an art of Androids arc where Goku is holding it...
>>544657678The ship they use to go back to earth breaks and it crashes into the ground. Everyone aboard hits their head and loses any memory they had from the previous 9+ months, meaning Bejita forgot he reached SSJ3, Goku forgot he reached SSJ4, and everyone forgot Daima happened.
Maybe I should've started my sister off with DBZ instead... man she's going to be looking at me like such a weirdo now...
>>544661308>I kinda forgot, my sister is sorta a feminist.Lmao she'll drop this series and claim it's trash.>Bulma is constantly humiliated in the first arc>Also constantly sexualized>Sidelined after the first arc>Launch is just an one note gag>Launch is also the last named female introduced until 18>Women are always reduced to housewifes>No female aside from Bulma does anything important, and Bulma becomes a plot device for advanced technology and is still mostly sidelined
I always get tickled doing the story missions because my CAC defeats enemies in the realm of gods by utilizing the unrivaled power of sports and aerobics themed attacks.
>>544593185>>544593557>Works like pre-nerf Timespace Impact, but you need Kaioken and time it just rightDamn, I can't use Golden for either Ultimates to get my DIO "The World" kick in.
>>544664382>Literal time god gets beaten by some speck ant using unbridled acrobatics.The Amazing Spider-Man.
>tfw Cheelai got into XV2 as an NPC before Chaotzu, Roshi, Launch and Chichi didChichi in particular should be added just to have a before battle cooking buff service like she did in Kakarot
I just find it peak that the Buu Saga all ends up to one joke of how praising Satan saves earth.
Xenoverse 3. Now
>>544667638You can't date Chichi like you can with Cheelai tho since she's with Goku.Unless they do like with Broly and late you date him too.>>544664382Unironically what Roshi did by the way.
Honestly I'm genuinely surprised XV2 doesn't have an OC Female NPC just for (you). Maybe in XV3?
>>544650286>Makes sense you'd put Namek that low if you're an anime only. The manga is better. I reread it all the time.I also read the manga often.Btw>First Hunt For The Dragon BallsManga > Anime>21st Tenkaichi BudokaiAnime > Manga>Red Ribbon ArmyManga > Anime>22nd Tenkaichi BudokaiAnime > Manga>Piccolo DaimaoAnime > Manga>23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Anime > Manga>SaiyajinAnime > Manga>Namek Manga > Anime>CellAnime > Manga>BooAnime > Manga
Virginia...
I'm still under the impression SS Gohan could've easily beaten Cell or at least if he tried, he would've wiped Cell's face in. I wonder what would happen if Goku just told Gohan since Gohan was literally like "ok dad, sure." then just pulled the peace talk technique card and I'm just like wtf man.
>>544668224There's at least 2 female Conton City female NPCs interested in you. That green haired one that runs up to you, and that one sitting on the beach island by herself being jealous over a couple.
Btw it does kinda suck you can't really actually talk about DB online on other sites like actual details and discussion because holy fuck the brainlets and the DBZAretards plague the community with head canon and dumb fuckery. Guess being King one way or another has its down side.
>>544668293XenoVerse is so fucking ugly. I really do hope 3 exists and is coming with an aesthetic overhaul
I want to pick the last option, but that's definitely gonna fuck me up
>>544668854I did it anyway, you lose affinity for it too. kek
Like there always seems to be a common head canon of Goku is a terrible father because he gave a senzu bean to Cell. Gohan wasn't even fucking phased. He was like "alright, I'll wipe the shit outta him." The only problem is he fucking got SPOOKED the moment Cell's like "ok get angry, I'll just fuck up your friends" and he's just like oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck. Otherwise, he couldn't care less if Cell was at full strength or not. I mean not head canon or head canon, face value is that Goku gave Cell the senzu bean to make the fight fair which is whatever. I don't get why it's such a big issue to people. Goku knew Gohan had this 10-0.
>>544669184And you unlock this artwork for selecting the proper option. I think Dimps might be taking cues from Street Fighter 6's World Tour mode with this
>>544667940Never. I don't know why these DB YouTubers and twitter accounts are so obsessed with XV3, when we've been getting content for nearly a decade.It isn't happening. The game director and develops even said it won't likely be a possibility, and said it so throughout XV2's alpha demo showcases.
>>544669489HNNNG I love Cheelai so much.
>>544669864>HNNNG I love Cheelai so much.
>>544668854>>544669184Cringe, Toriyama would NOT approve. Bunny outfit NOW.
>>544668718i doubt it given the bedrock of videogame sequels is reusing assetsat best we'll get slightly better assets like some of the latest dlcs have been but a complete overhaul is unlikely
>>544673175They have Sparking to steal character models from
>>544662767>Yamoshi0% chance
>>544662767Goes too much in the mechanics of things and try to connect everything too much.Very unlikely unless Toyotaro somehow end up in control.
>>544668293>>544668854>>544669184>>544669489Broly's wife is so cute...
>>544674636She's MY wife and so is Broly.
>>544675552Broly can't be your wife you pervert!!
>New character releases>I lose all my A rank back to A4 because of all the shitters that crawl out of the woodworkFUCKING TRASH GAME
>year of 2025>no definitive (or even good) version of Dragon Ball blurays.>Kanzenban still not in englishwhat the fuck
Going Tank is fucking worthless If you don't build damage you just lose in this game. All the extra hits do nothing for you unless you're winning, if you're losing it doens't matter how many defense cards you have you're basically just squishyIf you're winning, you should just take snowball Worthless role
>>544675878His maxed affection and CGs say otherwise!
>>544667638Chichi is so cute when she isn't being a bpdemon
>>544678546AKA a woman
>>544679362indeedthis is why 18 is the best wife in the series; Gero carved out the parts of the female genome that makes them irrational and histrionic. as a result, she is cool calm logical and low-maintenance.
>>544664348>Launch is also the last named female introduced until 18Uranai Baba
>>544679826>Uranai Baba>NamedI have some bad news, anon.
>>544679985Uranai is surname, Baba is name. Kame-sennin's full name is Uranai Mutenroshi.>b-butFacts do not care about your feelings.
>>544680281Muten and Roshi are two separate titles that mean different things tho.
>>544680339>>544680281Muten is the title, Roshi is the name.Similarly, Uranai is the title, Baba is the name.Family names are not common in the Dragon Ball universe. The only notable characters with family names are Goku's family and the Penguin Village inhabitants.
>>544681227>Roshi is the name.It's also a title.>Baba is the name.Again, also a title, they're basically calling her 'Old fortuneteller', it's not an actual name.Neither of them have a name given.Technically Roshi does show his ID once but I don't think we see the details of it.
First name MasterLast name RoshiIt's that shrimple.
>>544681473>It's also a title.That's the joke that goes along with their family. Their names are coincidentally in line with their "jobs". Saying these aren't their names is fan theory territory because nothing has ever suggested that these weren't their names.
>>544679826Oh yeah. I also had forgotten about Ranfan. It's still about 250 chapters of no new named females between Baba and 18 though...
out of curiosity, if I were to play xenoverse 2 offline, would it sync online if I went online later? Got a long trip coming up and wanted to play on my deck through the non-eac executable, but not sure how saves would work.
I've been on Xenoverse since 1's beta over a decade ago, and I have never once played the game online, and I have no inclination to.
>>544683163>would it sync online if I went online later?Yes
>>544683696right on thank you anon
>>544683753You're welcome
I dare you to name a worse character design in all of DragonballProtip. You can't. This is the worst. It makes Jiren look like high art
>>544685638botamo
My DB thread got removed from /a/..... it was on topic though...
>>544685638I think he's neat and so is Jiren
>>544685887RIP, /dbs/ kinda ruined any chance for us to have threads on /a/.
>>544674267Less than nuBardock?
>>544686053Feels like the pre-BoG threads, you guys had no idea. Dragon Ball couldn't get a serious topic going at that time.
>>544685638gomah
>>544685887the one with the doujin as the OP?
>>544685880>>544686718Nah. Not even close
Goku x Loli Videl kino just dropped: https://exhentai.org/g/3602056/85337a61ac/
>>544686527Nothing really to be said back then. Hell, nothing to be said now.Pre-BoG, this is what the franchise looked like.>1997 GT Ends>1998-2007Some Japan only manga nobody cares about to this day, and a bunch of recap video games.>2008A short half hour special that adds one new character and really nothing else.>2009Dragon Ball Z rebroadcast but remastered and with half the episodes and missing an arc.>2010A nothing pack in OVA that nobody liked.>2011A nothing pack in OVA that nobody liked for a game nobody liked.And also, video games in that entire period.Everything that could've been said about DB by 2010 had already been said, several times over, and /a/ back in those days was very much elitist against low quality posting- and DB threads were basically just Naruto threads for the type of people they attracted. Just dubfags talking about shit nobody cares about like powerlevels or starting a million dub vs sub arguments.Really, DB threads should've been banned a couple years back. Daima threads prove that even new content won't reinvigorate the dialogue around there.
>>544687169>Daima threads prove that even new content won't reinvigorate the dialogue around there.I was actively told to not even try and that it wasn't the place for that when I tried to sincerely talk about the weekly episodes
>>544687169>in OVA that nobody liked.speak for yourself faggot
>>544687420Yeah, and that's because everyone is already set in their ways over there, and here really. For every one post actually discussing Daima, you would have entire threads of just>DAIPA! >KEKYPOOPY!>BEJITA I JUST SHARTED!!!I can't even tell what caused /dbs/ to become a caricature of itself within the past five years. It wasn't covid, and even in the hellscape it was before, it was just classic /a/ general shitposting, a lot of /dbs/ from 2016-2018 was basically cribbed from /hxh/, and you could still have actual discussion if you wanted to. It was people who liked both the troll-y community aspects and Dragon Ball./dbs/ today is just people who like the shitposting, and shit like that cytube reeked of people wanting to create satellite communities for internet points, rather than actual interest in the series.If you want to talk DB, you may as well just go back to Kanzenshuu. Mike's a faggot, but at least he actually likes Dragon Ball.>>544687628Super Saiyajin Zetsumetsu Keikaku was just a worse version of Saiyajin Zetsumetsu Keikaku.Episode of Burdock was just bad.
Who is this "us", boss?
>>544687063>TWF gives gohan a harem>ridiculously powerful>self-insert level writing>but also has his canon wife getting piped by gokui cannot understand this man
https://youtu.be/JH1PBzexKzcHuh, are these type of stuff common?
>>544687958It's a side series of his where characters just get cucked, sometimes it's even Gohan like here.
>>544688145Not really, it's actually pretty rare.
>>544687843The focus on scat was really noticeable too, it's weird how omnipresent it quickly became.>reeked of people wanting to create satellite communities for internet points, rather than actual interest in the series.I mean, they basically made another /dbs/ on /co/ that's completely unrelated to DB with the Death Battle perma-general.
What's the fucking cooldown on SS3 Goku's ult? Got killed twice by it...
>>544689539cooldown?
>>544687858Cute Onion
>>544689717What? Is it something ridiculous like 40 seconds? Wouldn't be surprised...
>>544689539SSJ3 Goku's cooldowns in general are ridiculously short.
As far as Super Saiyan transformations go, where do you think we should go from here?>Super Saiyan 5>building up on Ikari >building up on Super Saiyan God >merging Super Saiyan 4 with MUI and Ultra Ego Hard mode: No "there shouldn't be any new transformations" because that's never going to happen.
>>544687843Daima is dogshit. There's a reason why it didn't even rank in the top 10 on normalfag sites while it aired. Of course nobody wanted to talk about it, nothing it was happening.
>>544691278realistically another level of mastery over god will come because clearly frieza is using god ki in black, so, SSJ5 will probably just get rolled in because "HOLY SHIT A NUMBER NOT JUST A NAME WOAHHH" still kinda hits hard (see: one piece)
>>544691308Most new Dragon Ball things are dogshit. We still discussed them before.
>>544691278I can't find it anymore, but there was this fanart of SS7 (or SS8) where it looked more Oozaru like. It was awesome. I noticed that after you get past 6 the fan ideas for future Super Saiyan transformations are dark and edgy Ss4 recolors.
>>544691308>There's a reason why it didn't even rank in the top 10 on normalfag sites while it aired.Why do you lie?
>>544691278Just drop Super Saiyans and just keep going forward from UI onward.
>>544691278>adding god onto other forms, so SSG is the base equivalent and SSB is the SS1 equivalent, meaning there's a blue 2, 3 and maybe even 4>same exact thing but with UI>something with beast>something else
So what's the deal with Xenoverse's newest DLC? I'm hearing a lot about the story.
>>544691278Something like that "Savior From Heaven" Super Saiyan that the Legend fan series came up with. More intentionally Monkey King, wild, untamed, the power that shakes the heavens. Maybe call it Super Saiyan "Ten" for the double pun.Otherwise if you want something with more oomph take Ultra Instinct and expand upon it into Buddhahood and Enlightenment, the kind of power that comes with being one with all, able to even turn a foe's strength completely against them.
>>544691278>Super Saiyan 5If they continue Daima, probably. That's what was being setup (though remember, the Super Saiyan 1-4 naming scheme is purely a Goku thing (at least with Toriyama)).
>>544693359playing with super saiyan notation is something that I always wish was a bit more common in fanfics. Like, there's no particular reason that super saiyan 2 has to be 2, they easily could have counted it as 4 after grade 2 and 3. Super saiyan 4 is an entirely different branch irrelavent to the itterations of super saiyan 1-3, so it doesn't have to be called 4. Hell, Super Saiyan itself is just named after a legend that may or may not have even been talking about that form
>>544693359All the names except the original Super Saiyan, Oozaru and Super Saiyan God are just random names the characters decided on because they were literally the first to ever do it.
I've literally never played a single character outside of my CaC in XV1 and 2, the entire roster is completely useless to the game and a waste of time IMO
>>544691540Nobody discussed Broly/Super Hero that much either, and Daima is in a tier below those because it decided to be a weird prequel that nobody knows if its connected to Super or not. If they actually confirmed it was connected to Super at the end it would be talked about, but since they didn't, they lost all the goodwill they could have.
For once, I was on the other side of a hopeless match.>Enemy team got the first two bosses>We got the later two>All the while, we slowly but surely took down their towers>They didn't take out even a single one of ours'>I decided to not be overconfident, and from them on, I stayed near towers guarding them>Enemy team put an effort in trying to attack but it was difficult>This match also showed me how good Baby's ult is>Just get in the middle of a battle, use it, use skill 1 a few times, then back to the tower in case I saw a rat still alive>Unless they managed to kill the entire team (Difficult since I mostly stayed at the towers) we had already won>Either we would take out their last tower>Or Zeno would start the timeout
>>544693702Super Saiyan is weird because the way Vegeta actually describes the legend, it makes no reference to a transformation or anything as much as it is just a title for a saiyan that is really strong, Goku was arguably already "The Super Saiyan" by the time he fought frieza, the transformation can be argued to just be a seperate thing.
>Nobody You still didn't back up your claims with numbers.
GT? What's that?
>>544694887Some old spinoff. Not important.
>>544694887are we backsliding into yamamuro designs again, because this looks like his kind of plastic designs
>>544676257You losers don't have the kanzenban translated? Lmao
>>544693661>>544693702The reason why people don't do unique names in fan stuff is because Dragon Ball is also primarily video games to a lot of people, and it's also a "database" series. Power level shit goes hand in hand with numbering your forms after all, and before Goku said "Suppa Saiyajin Three...", Japanese magazines and guidebooks had Grades 1-5. Whenever Toriyama did it though, the characters just made some shit up if a name wasn't given to them.Like, people shit on Daima a lot, but I love how Vegeta names his SSJ3 "Ultra Vegeta 1", because that's in line with his more egocentric naming schemes. I don't believe he would just subscribe to Goku's naming conventions at all. >>544695365Existing TLs are pretty bad in typeset and overall quality. Especially bad is the Piccolo arc.Tuxedo Time's release will be the definitive one, though he's only at Volume 5.
>>544695523the real question is what does vegeta call super saiyan 2? We know ORE WA SUPAH BEJITA is specifically grade 2, but what about default super saiyan 2?
>>544694887>>544695119How old is Yamamuro and what are the odds once he dies we never ever come back to shit like this? I swear the damage he has done to DB visuals the last two decades is one of the biggest gripes of this franchise.
>>544695704>We know ORE WA SUPAH BEJITA is specifically grade 2We know for a fact that's not the case you absolutely fucking retard, stop confusing memes and videogame fanfic tier terms as canon. The name Super Vegeta was introduced literally the first time Vegeta went Super Saiyan.
>>544691278Can we drop transformations and go back to moves? Or is it too late and we're in pure spic territory Would nu-ball even come up with something like an original Kamehame or a Kikoho? Everything is just beams and balls nowIT'S SO FUCKING LAME I HATE SPICBALL ZI HATE FRANCHISES THAT PEAK IN THE FIRST 100 CHAPTERS AND THEN CONTINUE TO SIT AROUND SHITTING THEMSELVES
>>544676257Not having the Kanzenban is rough.
>>544695119>>544695797Yamamuro designs will always be used for this type of general promo art. It's just general brand identity for Toei.Daima and Super Broly can look different as anime, but that's unique from the overall marketing effort.
>>544695969>Can we drop transformations and go back to moves?DB never really did that.
>>544691278>>merging Super Saiyan 4 with MUI and Ultra Egothis is the only option
>>544695964Sure, he does say it when he's doing his big bang attack, but during his grade 2 moment against semiperfect is the more iconic version, and what most people understand as "super vegeta" It's also kind of goofy in retrospect for vegeta to describe himself as "super vegeta" against semiperfect as some kind of new version of himself compared to the "old" vegeta if base super saiyan is also supposed to be super vegeta
>>544696538also, the chapter where vegeta uses grade 2 is quite literally called "Super Vegeta" I don't think it's really all that unfair to assume Grade 2 is supposed to be that in his naming scheme
>>544695969DB was never a techniques focused series.Like, look at how Goku wins his tournament fights.>GiranOverpowers him.>NamuOverpowers him.>Jackie ChunLoses, but neither pull out a flashy technique to win. The flashiest it gets is the bullshit auto win moves that Roshi attempts.>KuririnAgain, no techniques aside from literally moving too fast to be seen, and now, punching 8 times in quick succession followed by a kick is not a "technique". >TenshinhanI guess flinging himself into Tenshinhan is a technique? But that's just an expansion on Jackie Chun using a kamehameha to throw himself back in the ring in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.>ChichiOverpowers her.>TenshinhanHe steals the taiyo-ken I guess.>PiccoloThis is the sole fight with several new moves, including the Chou Kamehameha and the Meteor Combination.
>>544691862>SS7 (or SS8) where it looked more Oozaru like. It was awesome.You're probably thinking of Super Saiyan 10.And it looked like shit.
>>544697023It feels like a bit of a stretch to call the meteor combination a technique, it's just running up to piccolo and beating the piss out of him ending with a kamehameha
>>544697198Toriyama saw this and raughed so hard he just had to trace it.
>>544695523>Like, people shit on Daima a lot, but I love how Vegeta names his SSJ3 "Ultra Vegeta 1", because that's in line with his more egocentric naming schemes. I don't believe he would just subscribe to Goku's naming conventions at all.It's also clearly him awkwardly backpedalling his "Super saiyan bargain sale" comment when Goku points out he got SS3 too. It's just Vegeta pretending he got a whole new form.>>544696538>It's also kind of goofy in retrospect for vegeta to describe himself as "super vegeta" against semiperfect as some kind of new version of himself compared to the "old" vegeta if base super saiyan is also supposed to be super vegetaIt was also odd for Cell to go all "You can't be Vegeta, who are you?!". It's a weird dialogue to lead into "Ore wa Supa Vegeta Da".>>544696927He's just feeling himself. He calls himself Super Vegeta when using Big Bang Attack too, he's just feeling himself because he's overconfident in his power, but it's not how he names that form, unless he just happens to call two derivatives of super saiyan "Super Vegeta". IIRC Gotenks also calls himself "Super Gotenks" when going SS3.>>544697023>including the Chou KamehamehaAnd the most damage it did was make Piccolo lose his turban, otherwise pointless and forgotten.
>>544697226It is a flowing combination of attacks that can be taught and replicated, each of which acts out an effect that leads into the next one. I'd call it a technique, unlike the Kuririn thing where he just punches him and then kicks when he feels it's enough.
>>544696538>what does Vegeta call SS2? We know he specifically calls SS grade 2 "Super Vegeta" but...>He calls basic SS "Super Vegeta" too>B-B-BUT IT'S MORE ICONIC AND..Stop coping, you are a casual and a retard, just admit you were completely wrong.>>544698058This. Remember that all blonde forms are technically variations of the same form, SS, SS grade 2 and probably SS2 Vegeta too are all Super Vegeta. "Ultra Vegeta #1" is a little dumb gag, nothing else, the guy isn't making up his own names for each form
If Toriyama wasn't a fucking HACK it would be easy to incorporate SS4 and Daima into Super particularly through a reboot. classic SS4 wouldn't be Beerus level, but classic SS4 already has a God Evolution form you could write into Super later to keep it relevant to God power levels. all you would have to do for a reboot is have SS4 job on King Kai's Planet instead of SS3 and have Vegeta turn SS3 when he crashes out against Beerus. it's not that SIMPLE though because SOMEBODY thought they could draw a """new and improved""" version of the MONA LISA.
>>544698506>classic SS4 already has a God Evolution formNo, it doesn't. UFSP4LB isn't a god form, retard.
>>544698451Not sure where the mega hostility over super vegeta of all things is coming from but okay anon i'll drop it. I still do enjoy the idea of super saiyan forms being fluid and not enforcing a rigid number system.
>>544696508Dumbass fucking speed reader, go fucking die.
>>544699232People like to hype up Tien's performance in the 22nd but this whole setup was just really embarassing. He realizes he can't beat Goku in a straight fight so he attempts to force a ring out, and even then he STILL nearly loses despite on paper being able to easily win in that scenario due to goku's lack of flight
>>544698506>If Toriyama wasn't a fucking HACK it would be easy to incorporate SS4 and Daima into SuperBut why.Honestly, I don't get this obsession with a linear Dragon Ball canon or whatever when Dragon Ball has had several "continuities" only a few years into its existence. You're viewing the franchise too much as a linear thing and not as a set of characters and story ideas.Dragon Ball, the linear story, ended. Volumes 1-42 are that story.Dragon Ball GT, Dragon Ball Super, Dragon Ball Daima, the movies, and whatever comes next, are all other projects separate from that and each other.
>>544697023>Loses, but neither pull out a flashy technique to win. The entire fight is Roshi pulling out tons of techniques including the Bankoku Bikkuri ShoAnd the fight ends with Roshi having a longer reach than Goku despite all of the techniques I swear to fuck, I don't think any of you have fucking read Dragonball
>>544696526as with regular Ultra Instinct -Sign-, i think UISS4 -Sign- would be signficantly cooler than MUISS4.i think the white-haired form should stay reserved for Ultra Instinct itself and that UISS4 -Sign- should merely raise it up to MUI's level. i like the idea that -Sign- could be combined with other forms to match Mastered if you don't wanna put all your skill points into Ultra Instinct and dodging. that's kinda where i thought the series was going before everybody got a unique, primary hair color transformation. Blue Evolution was an in-between stage that was getting Vegeta to around -Sign- levels, and then actually learning UI -Sign- to combined with Blue Evo would bring him up to Mastered Ultra Instinct strength.though i guess it would get kinda redundant if everybody could Ultra Instinct dodge. they'd be wearing this sound cue out. lolhttps://youtu.be/i2TWdbcJp8s?si=Tdf8DOpcX64ZYRRG
>>544700029I wonder if they're ever gonna do anything with blue evolution or if it's just gonna stay in this state of dubiously accepted as a vegeta form. It's either that or continuing with ultra ego I guess and I do not care for ultra ego at all
>>544699682>Honestly, I don't get this obsession with a linear Dragon Ball canonIt's not even about making GT "canon" or wanting linear canon, it's more about honoring the 40 year legacy you built, that original SS4 has been around for almost 30 years of. And a little foresight, to consider that he'd be stoking an eternal fan debate that doesn't need to exist about which form is better or more canon.Also, I've never bought that Daima is an Elseworlds story like GT because they intentionally wrote elements into the story (like Zeno's Grandpa) that connect it to Super.
>>544699817I mentioned those as "bullshit auto win moves", like that attack and his hypnosis. Those are more like tricks than actual techniques, not something designed to be employed in tandem with fighting ability, but to outright end a fight without compromising. >And the fight ends with Roshi having a longer reach than Goku despite all of the techniquesThat's not a move or a technique, that's just a height difference.
>>544700029>to combinedcombine. Jesus, i meant combine. lol
>>544664348ngl she got to the end of vol 2 and she's getting turned off by all the nudity and comedy moments. i keep telling her it gets "better" but she doesn't believe me :(
>>544666140Post INFERIORSS4ku winning a single time
>>544700951You should unironically stop her before she gets to the parts where Roshi is peeping on Bulma while she's on the toilet and the part where her jail bait pussy gets flashed to Roshi. Those moments could sincerely affect her opinion of you and the series.
>>544700951I know it's generally frowned upon here and for good reason, but you sure you just don't want to let her skip straight to Z? Honestly you might be able to get away with skipping straight to the 22nd, as I cant think of anything particuarly offensive to a normie in that.
Why didn't Heroes ever add this Buu form?
>>544701159>>544701180That's at the end of Vol 1. It's already too late.
>>544701251If buu's pants are a part of his flesh does that mean he's naked all the time? Why does he feel the need to wear pants anyways?
>>544700696>It's not even about making GT "canon" or wanting linear canon, it's more about honoring the 40 year legacy you builtToriyama has radically changed what follows Z several times. Here is every "Z sequel" we've gotten, in order:>Dragon Ball GT>Neko Majin (retcons GT)>Dragon Ball Online (retcons GT)>Yo! Son Goku & His Friends Return!! (technicality, inconsequential)>Battle of Gods & Fukkatsu no F>Dragon Ball Super (manga) (retcons everything else)>Dragon Ball Super (anime) (retcons everything else, incompatible with the manga)>Dragon Ball Daima (retcons most things (Neko Majin could maybe happen, and so could DBO I guess))
>>544664173I showed my sister the series at 10. I mostly skipped over the risque parts. She loved it.
In my defense, I brought her to watch Super Heroes before so it's not like she doesn't know where it leads too, it's just she's a bit "wtf this shit kinda disgusting" in the early DB moments.
>>544701379He's created in the likeness of Babidi and Babidi wears Depends Diapers cause he's an old bug that shits himself
>>544701379Buu's clothes are weird. Fat Buu removed them when taking a bath, and he even wore pajamas to go to sleep, but whenever he heals himself, he also restores his clothes like they're part of him.
do you think xenoverse majins also have flesh clothes or do you think they just wear normal clothes
>>544680281Biggest retard in the thread award goes to...
>>544699232I don't see how blowing up the ring is about techniques.
>>544701496That's true, but pretty much everything there except Super and Daima has been in an Elseworlds bubble for the last decade. SDBH and Xenoverse also lived and live (respectively) in an Elseworlds bubble.
>>544701379>>544702000We also have Super Buu ripping off Gohan's shirt, but when everyone else is being freed, he briefly changes to Piccolo's clothes.
>>544680281Biggest retard in the thread award goes to...>>544685887This one https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283413446/#q283413446 ? It was probably deleted for the OP image. They're very persnickety. And there's a DB thread already up.>>544687843For 18/20 episodes there was nothing to talk about except Goku farting, a mediocre fight, a mediocre lore dump, or the plane crashing. When SS4 and Bejita SS3 dropped they were talked about extensively. It's not that there was an inherent hate for it because it wasn't Super, they hated it because it was bad.
>>544701496>Neko MajinGag series>Dragon Ball GT>Dragon Ball Super (anime)Toei lead series, Toriyama had almost nothing to do with themSo we are left with>Dragon Ball Online >Yo! Son Goku & His Friends Return!!>Battle of Gods & Fukkatsu no F>Dragon Ball Super (manga)All of these fit with each other>Dragon Ball Daima Doesn't fit with any of the aboveSee the problem? This shit is retarded. Nobody asked for more filler slop.
>>544701251he really is a dickhead
>>544702353>For 18/20 episodes there was nothing to talk about except Goku farting, a mediocre fight, a mediocre lore dump, or the plane crashing. When SS4 and Bejita SS3 dropped they were talked about extensively. It's not that there was an inherent hate for it because it wasn't Super, they hated it because it was bad.Again, DBS was mostly nothing episodes, but people still talked about it in a significantly more genuine way than Daima.I saw more discussion for literal Fukkatsu no F retreads, shit that was bad, had nothing happening, and we had already seen. It's a change in attitude.
>>544702362>DBS Manga>CanonBait used to be believable.
>>544702340Gohan also still has his Gi when saved from superbuu, so it's not like he took it from Gohan itself. I guess buu took piccolo's magic materialization or something
>>544702353If /a/ didn't even comment on the fight with Tamagami Number 3, then they really don't care about DB and only want pointless fanservice like Vegeta getting SS3, and that redone SS4.
>>544702362>DBS manga fan>complaining about filler slopToyo made an entire arc that ran for two years where the only thing of note happened in the last 8 pages.
so has everyone already gave up on gekishin squadra?
>>544702353>>544702362If you're gonna spam, be more subtle about it.>>544702548Tamagami 3 is one of the best fight in the franchise IMO and I saw a lot of talk about it. Just not on /a/.>>544702591Yeah, if you didn't like that fight, what you have to say about DB is worthless.>>544702674My daily streak was interrupted due to internet issues so now I'm not motivated to continue playing.
>>544702674Matchmaking is so fucked, there's no way you can carry in ranks above A by yourselfIT's either everyone is 0/5 Or everyone is 10/0The balance in that game is a fucking joke
>>544702548True to a point. It was fun laughing at how bad they were more than anything. We did make fun of Daima but it got boring after a while. There are only so many times you can make fun of the same thing.>>544702591The episode 8 fight? It was talked about quite a bit. I remember that being regarded as the first acceptable episode after the recaps.
>>544702674I'm still playing it, but I can see why people are dropping it. Matchmaking issues, overpowered cards, SS3 Goku, predatory monetization, absurd grind for new characters, game giving basically nothing with that freemium currency, the fucking Golden Cell Jrs mode...
>>544703254You should go back there since you seem to miss it so much.
>>544702883Honestly, I don't really care that much for Daima as a whole (I'm the person talking about how it wasn't discussed on /a/ at all), but I think it was the most DB like thing we've gotten since that OVA from 2008. It has a lot of tropes and characteristics I would ascribe to DB, and that's mostly just Toriyama doing whatever he wants.The worldbuilding is pretty silly and shit just happens. Like, people point at how SSJ3 and 4 are unlocked through nothing, but that's how Toriyama did most things. The only big emotional transformations he ever did were SSJ1 and SSJ2. But Super Vegeta? SSJ3? Hell, go back to fight enders, like Goku regrowing his tail, that shit just happens out of the blue.Not to say "You must love this NOW", just that Daima is certainly as DB as a TV anime has gotten since DBZ went off the air.
>>544703413Since it pisses you off imma stay
>>544701496>Toriyama>GTStopped reading here.
>>544703407Don't forget all the dupes too. Even the special animations I got were for characters I don't play.>>544703431>It has a lot of tropes and characteristics I would ascribe to DBPeople whining about the plane breaking is a great exemple of the american fanbase skipping OG DB, because Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.
>Thought Fu completely lost himself to the ultra supervillain >Turns out he's desperately trying to prevent a future where we die even if it means doing this shit.idiot, who asked you to do that?!
>>544703525It would piss me off a lot if you stopped being retarded and found a place that actually want you there too.>>544703671Me. I asked him. I don't wanna die.
>>544703621>Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.Massive exaggeration. Her bike broke the one time in the desert. People complained about the plane breaking because it was shit.
>>544703621>People whining about the plane breaking is a great exemple of the american fanbase skipping OG DB, because Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.I do not get why people reduce OGDB to just pilaf saga, it's barely over 20 chapters from the nearly 200 that make up pre Z
>>544703621>People whining about the plane breaking is a great exemple of the american fanbase skipping OG DB, because Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.Yeah, that's a big thing, Toriyama always leaned on the "no easy routes" kind of idea in his adventure stories.There's obviously Bulma's broken vehicles, but Goku loses kinto'un twice in the original series, which forces him to meet new characters both times, or the people around him restricting his usage of kinto'un.GT also played into the broken plane bit, but GT's failings are not entirely in its raw adventure handling, but more in how it uses Goku and their failure to understand what makes the original DB work. Goku in that first arc is not a character, he is an anchoring point for the other characters, and while he can solve situations, he does so only after the drama has reached a climax (or even outright ended). Daima works around the Goku issue in its own way by taking the multiple active parties idea from later arcs, but it also doesn't just relegate all of Goku's group to glorified background character tier like GT (seriously, what did Trunks and Giru even do beyond their utilitarian aspects, i.e., machines guy and dragon radar?).
>>544703925>PeopleLiterally never seen that complaint outside of you who explicitly come from /dbs/, thus making your input irrelevant.
>>544704242Keep seething at my presence, pup.
>>544703957>I do not get why people reduce OGDB to just pilaf saga,Because it's the part where most stuff get set up and the one where we have a solid 'main group' for most it. After that it's mostly Goku going off on his own and quickly cycling through new people and then tournaments.>>544704098Kinto'un even died IIRC and had to be brought back by Karin.
>>544703621>Don't forget all the dupes too. Even the special animations I got were for characters I don't play.I stopped using my capsules... Does it still give basically nothing of that EX currency?>because Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.The problem is Daima did a whole when having vehicles breaking, meanwhile OG had more gags, exploration, interactions... Daima is just really, really dull because the planes breaking is repetitive, and we don't even get anything interesting from that.
>>544704350Try not being so obvious next time.>>544704098Didn't the Radar also break at least once?
>>544703957Here are all the 'adventure' arcs in the original DB manga>First Hunt>Red Ribbon Army>(arguably) Piccolo>(arguably) Namek pre-FreezaAll of those have the method of transportation getting destroyed, sometimes multiple times. In the First Hunt, they lose several vehicles, in RRA kinto'un is destroyed, in Piccolo kinto'un is destroyed again, and in Namek the core conflict only truly starts when the cast become stranded on Namek (and are forced to not fly for a large chunk of their time there).Removing the transportation method is always a trope in these arcs. >>544704632The Dragon Radar breaks twice. Once after Muscle Tower, and once again during the Blue section (where it gets stolen afterwards). It even "fails" a third time, but that's a leadin to Pilaf's hidden DB.
>>544704430>Because it's the part where most stuff get set up and the one where we have a solid 'main group' for most it. After that it's mostly Goku going off on his own and quickly cycling through new people and then tournaments.I don't really see how that makes all the other arcs so much lesser to the point where OGDB has become synonymous with pilaf saga and only pilaf saga. Like, when you see people saying "oh this is so much like OGDB" it specifically referring to pilaf
>>544704623>and we don't even get anything interesting from that.If you didn't find the shop grandma and her husband with their stalk cannon interesting, I can't do anything for you, anon.Both OG and Daima use the 'vehicle broke' trope the same way: To have the cast stumble upon the new episode. Daima had less gags but it also had more actions and the secondary group did more than OG's secondary group (like Glorio and Pansy did way more than Yamcha and Oolong for exemple) so it balances out.
>>544704796I wouldn't much call piccolo an adventure arc, atleast in the same way pilaf and red ribbon are. There's just too much focus on the enemies specifically and not the world itself compared to all the others.
>>544704802It's not a question of being lesser, it's a question of it having the mos recognizable standout elements you see less and less until you get to Z where almost none of it is present anymore, at least not in that form.>>544704796>Removing the transportation method is always a trope in these arcs.Don't forget in DQ, you often have to obtain new vehicles or way to traverse the map that often get attacked or destroyed, making you need to find the next one.
>>544704430Cool detail that there is a mega huge Kinto in that can spawn children.There's no reason everyone that's capable to ride one shouldn't have one.>>544704802Because it's really easy to watch the first 10 episodes, stop watching, and think the entire thing is like that.
>>544705143>Cool detail that there is a mega huge Kinto in that can spawn children.I always wondered if the original Kino'un is supposed to be dead and was replaced or if this is supposed to be Karin bringing it back since he was a part of that bigger cloud to begin with.
>>544704884>If you didn't find the shop grandma and her husband with their stalk cannon interesting, I can't do anything for you, anon.That's like, episode 4? They were okay but between that and Tamagami Number 3 the episodes were dull, and then episodes after that were rather boring whenever Duu wasn't around. I do like the Megaths episode though, because we had something going on after a plane broke that isn't just boring info dumps or a fight with Gomah's infinitely interchangeable mooks.
>>544705091Most people who bring up pilaf saga just kind of vaguely gesture at the idea of the adventure being cool and they like that rather than picking out any particular stand out elements. Like obviously there's people who go into it more, like you, but I feel like Pilaf saga's popularity is kind of like shadow dragons where it rides a lot off of of the idea of the arc moreso than what actually happens in it.
>>544705143the issue is by the start of Z basically everybody can fly and fly faster than flying nimbus.
>>544705554I can't even tell you what episode had what it was so dull>>544705362It's creepy to think that the original just dies and Goku moves on without a care in the world. To avoid that saying they retain their memories is better.
>>544693106>Super Saiyan "Ten"
>>544705636>To avoid that saying they retain their memories is better.I imagine the 'real' Kinto'un is the giant one and the smaller ones are just parts of himself he can move and act as independently, that would explain why just taking another cloud from it was taken by Goku as Kinto'un being back.
>>544705556Goku used it to conserve stamina and both of Goku's kids used it to go to school. Goku gives a Kintoun to Uub at the end. So there should be 2 at least in circulation by the ending.
>>544703621>People whining about the plane breaking is a great exemple of the american fanbase skipping OG DB, because Bulma's cars and vehicles died more than Kenny in OG DB.You are just forgetting that this shit works to start the arc as the characters are now going on foot, but Daima just has no "arcs" like OG did. There's no Yamcha episode, no Mr Carrot, no Oolong, no Fire Mountain. Those vehicle break scenes are supposed to happen to start a new arc, but since Daima has nothing of the sort it just feels like you are watching this shit break again and again.The weirdest part is that there are multiple characters that you would expect to fill those "arc" roles, like those racist demons early on, the bull, those 2 guys that steal the dragon ball, those guys from the bar that fight bejita and piccolo. But they literally show up, have no name at all, and get defeated/leave in like 2 minutes or so. And then the cast fixes the ship and continue until the ship breaks again. Its just a bizarre series, like they were going far and beyond to give it no real memorable characters/moments. Would it have been that hard to spend atleast one episode with a minor villain?
>>544706064I dont like most of the ideas of the manga but Goten using nimbus to not pay attention while he can game on his way to school was a cute idea
>>544706078My truth ratings are off the charts.
>>544706078>Would it have been that hard to spend atleast one episode with a minor villain?This is exactly why I like the Megath episode... They're not villains per se, but they are antagonists that everyone has to deal with.
>>544667940They’d just over monetize it and fuck the whole thing up
>>544706078>but Daima just has no "arcs" like OG did. There's no Yamcha episode, no Mr Carrot, no Oolong, no Fire Mountain.None of these are arcs, they were basically one off episodes, which Daima also has. Your complaint make no sense.>Would it have been that hard to spend atleast one episode with a minor villain?The Megath.The Minotaur.The Tamagami, especially his trick.
>>544706280That episode would have been good if they actually interacted with the giants instead of it being one huge jobbing fight against a single one the entire episode and then the green toriyama dumping the lore about their race at the very end. Such a wonky way to show that it was all a misunderstanding, it could have easily been the best episode if it wasn't just fighting.
>>544706195One of the few things in DBS everyone can agree is cool.
>>544706730I still say the Nimbus awakening in XV2 was neat, at least in concept.
>>544706571>The MinotaurWas legit expecting so much from this character. Then he just SHARTED his pants at seeing Goku fighting and left the series. Was atleast expecting him to ENTER when the King showed up in one of the later episodes where Goku jobbed to generic soldiers because he was with the King's army in the intro but he just... didnt. What the FUCK was the point? Raughs?
>>544706957I agree. It's not amazing but it was fun.
>>544707057>What the FUCK was the point? Raughs?Yes. The joke is simply that he talked a big game but is a weak coward.
>new show based off of the ohh gee dee bee>Said to have "gags">Bulma doesn't get naked even once>Bulma's breasts are talked about the one time>The world isnt extremely morally corrupt>All of the side characters are cardboard cutoutsNot my pilaf saga. More like the black star dragon ball arc.
>>544707057>What the FUCK was the point? Raughs?Literally the same point as Oolong and Monster Rabbit. And also Yamcha when he met Chichi or Goku wasn't hungry.Kadan was Gyumao by the way.
>>544707237>The world isnt extremely morally corruptDude, they have TAXES, that's the most morally corrupt thing we've seen in DB yet.
>>544707314Oolong had a mini-arc for him, became part of the main cast and literally saved the worldIf the BVLL did the same thing Daima would have been saved
>ugly musclebrick Toppo got in over qt chubby soft ToppoMonkeys paw
>yamchaPut up a fight and joined the squad and undressed bulma>OolongWas a threat for a minute and joined the squad>Master RabbitWas a real threat for a minute>MinotaurGives up and runs away immediately while making a happy cuck faceOne of these is not like the other
>>544707483>gets caught on the panama papers>writes a story where goku murders demon realm tax collectorsToriyama...
>>544707854How many fat dudes do we have in DB? Could make a fat bear team?
>>544707912It reminds me of that dude who was like 'Toriyama clearly doesn't own DB because Oda has a bigger public networth than him!' and I had to resist going 'That's actually because Toriyama had been committing MASSIVE amounts of tax evasion for decades and basically told the government 'Ask my accountant, I don't give a shit about that stuff' when they came knocking'.
>>544707912>>544708176Qrd?
>>544707947Besides Buu, there's just Champa, who has no chance since he's a tower, Yajirobe, whom I dont consider very likely, and Giran and Drum who are obsolete DB characters who have 0 chance. So no its not gonna happen, especially since they used the worse Toppo.
>>544708280There was a big news story about tax evasion that Toriyama was involved in and he just basically went 'I have no idea what this is about, go ask the dudes I pay to handle my taxes' and they just kinda quietly stopped investigating him.
>>544702353ME? :( what its my favorite db doujin
>>544709023Based
Gotenks's tracking combo skill is absurd... I swear I once briefly saw him attacking SS3 Goku at my tower, after SS3 Goku teleported...
>>544709023The mods are super strict with thread creation. That doujin was mid.
>>544702362>SHARTnga
the sissification of goku
>>544709698name 2
>>544710182wouldn't goku's proportions vary wildly from episode to episode in Z due to all the studios that worked on the show? That being said I thought the muscle peaked in cell saga even in the manga, those necks were something monstrous.
>>544710298Love triangle, the one with Baby Bejita and Bra, the princess snake, and there's one with Seripa and kid Raditz I enjoy a bunch
>>544710413>wouldn't goku's proportions vary wildly from episode to episode in Z due to all the studios that worked on the show?Yes.
Does the golden freiza suit have hands?And you know, I thought at first you guys wre memeing that the developers hunger for manga content with USV Vegeta doing Ego Vegeta's pose and using a move he doesn't actually have in game and USV Freiza hitting the Black Freiza pose but Broly controlling his Wrath form makes me think you guys weren't kidding after all, in fact, this game alone has Broly speak more than he has since Toriyama canonized him several years ago.If they are gonna do the simp VN shit can we do it with 21 and her majin forms, the good one is cute as fuck and the evil one makes cocks explode it'd be fun tard wangling them around the city, yeah? Imagine the bad one acting like Cell and deciding not to eat you because you're so amusing and hte good one just wanting ot be around you
>>544702575>>544702654>>544710110January 26.
>>544711467The DBS anime doesn't adapt the manga.If they were going to do Moro, the DBS anime wouldn't have ended, nor would it have skipped both it and Granolah.
>>544711663Granolah and Moro weren't even things back then tho.It would make no sense for the anime to go back and animate two filler arcs when we already got Super Hero tho.
>>544706673They could have had a really funny gag but they skimped out on it because this show is for babies now.
>>544712591>Granolah and Moro weren't even things back then tho.If they were significant to Toriyama's outline, they would've been included with the TV anime.But the TV anime ended.
I think Super Broly would've been better if he had legit anger issues that made him more homicidal the angrier he gotlike, when he's calm he's a generally good bloke but work his temper and he'll twist your head off.
>>544713370Drunk American Broly...
>>544712591>It would make no sense for the anime to go back and animate two filler arcsBut they just animated a 20 episode filler arc
>>544713526I was thinking like a guy who simply doesn't understand why killing the stuff that bothers him is morally wrong, because why would he? As it is, he's too much like a pibble that Cheekslai thinks she can tame because "he's a gud boi, he dindu nuffin, I can fix him"
I asked my sister who her favorite character was so far and she's like "they're all pretty freaky....but I guess Yamcha is alright."
>>544715229This has to be a troll
>>544715229I wonder if she made it to Z she'll become a vegetafag like all the rest
>>544715294???>>544715347Honestly who knows. She's in the middle of vol 3 so still in "filter" territory. At least from here on out it doesn't get too weird... General Blue is whatever I think it's fucking hilarious and is fine for today's standard and not weird hilarious like Vol 1/2 was. Baba tournament has that one nudity filter and I think it's smooth sailing from here on out. She's been teasing me all day about "what the heck are you reading with dirty old men asking 16 year olds to flash them"
>>544715229assuming she hasn't made it to Z yet, who else would she pick?>little kid>little kid, bald>old man>pig>blue cum rag>other blue cum rag, who is also blonde>big guy with a third eye>big guy's magic fucktoy
>>544715578>???Yamcha's voice actor forced a girl less than half his age to have sex with him unprotected and then forced her to get an abortion
>>544715229>Yamcha is alrightCHADchabros we WON!My sister's favorite characters are all son family members. The most handsome is EoZ Goten with the long hair. She likes Krillin quite a bit too. She isn't a fan of nerdhan.>>544715578How old is she? Young teen?I wish I documented how everyone felt when I showed them DB in detail.
>>544715636She said Chichi was chill. Tbf she is kinda chill in the manga. (sorta I know she still freaks out at Gohan during the beginning of Namek Saga) it's the anime that really hammered in her ANGRY STUDY STUDY STUDY TYPICAL ASIAN MOM vibes. But yeah, that's pretty much her reaction too lol. >weird kid>jerk kid>weird dirty old man >pig>stuck up girl>(kinda cool but i don't really get it) girl >weird guy who's scared of girls
>>544715909adult-Chi or kid-Chi? adult-Chi is pretty good during the filler saga after the 23rd Tenkaichi. still kinda has her kid personality so she's dopey and sweet and strong and crazy about Goku.
>>544715729no late 20s. >>544715678yeah I know about toru furuya. didn't really make a connection since we're reading the manga.
>>544715729I like how there's all those scenes of goku in the 22nd as if he didn't just get up right after all those blows.
>>544716041Kid Chi-Chi. We're still in Vol 3. I can't wait for her to start the tournament arc since it's the first "action" arc and not the weird stuff (I actually don't mind early early DB but yeah looking back on it. Yeah that's going to be a HUGE filter to any normie....) >>544715729>>544716147I know lol a loss is a loss. But do people actually count the Tien fight as a W for Tien? That was pure bullshit and people know it.
>>544716219Tien himself doesn't count the 22nd as a win, but by technicality I guess he did beat goku if you really want to stretch it.
>>544716219>But do people actually count the Tien fight as a W for TienHe did win though>B-B-Bu-He won
Bro, this is like if you're running a marathon, and 5 seconds away from the finish line some random guy from outta nowhere NABS you before you can cross the finish line from the crowd. that ain't a W for 2nd place guy.
>>544715229Just fuck your sister already.
If you jobbed you jobbed
>>544716576Honestly Goku getting run over should have been a DQ for Tenshinhan, that's outside help.
Can we not be weird schizos for one day?
>>544716745Tien winning the match at all from just deleting the entire arena feels like violating the spirit of a martial arts match, if not literally breaking the rules. Like at that point it's not a martial arts match between two people it's just "I can fly and you cant"
>>544716576by an inch or by a mile, a win is a win
>>544716750I think the thread sperg is gone so it's chill.>>544716857Flying is a martial arts skill
>>544710413No you don't get it, NEW BAD
>>544716857I give it a pass because he's flying using martial arts.Touching the hole that replaced the arena should be legit tho, nobody said you couldn't be below the ring, just not thrown out.
>>544716967the Bukujutsu is a martial arts skill, yeah. But it's one of those things you'd feel like people would give tien a lot of shit for if he actually won that way. It's essentially flipping the table and being rewarded for it
>>544716967>I think the thread sperg is goneYou're literally here tho.
>>544717092I can see people giving him shit for destroying the ring but the flying itself is legit IMO, it's basically traditional qigong martial arts.
>>544716917Yeah lets see if DOM SAYS THAT SHIT WHEN HE GETS RAMMED BY A RANDOM JEEP
>>544717316No the flying itself is fine, i'm saying it's flying + destroying the ring that I think people would give him shit for. It's basically admitting that he couldn't actually beat goku so he's just going to force a loss using tournament rules. Like yeah he's not doing anything wrong per se but it still feels shitty
>>544717092Using the Kaioken wouldn't have been cheating cheating so Bukujutsu isn't either. It's just a technique. Did Piccolo using the Mafuba on Kami render his victory null?
>>544717441>Did Piccolo using the Mafuba on Kami render his victory null?That didn't happen.>>544717434Tenshinhan is Carlos Medel? Does the Tenkaichi Budokai work under Purgatory rules?
>>544717441Piccolo won by reversing a technique that was thrown at him, that feels a hell of a lot more valid as a win than "i'm just gonna blow up the arena" Like again, i'm not saying Tien did anything wrong in an objective tournament legal sense, i'm just saying it feels like it violated the spirit of a martial arts match. You'd have people complain that the Budokai would just get reduced to who can blow up the ring as fast as possible to force a knock out instead of actual martial arts.
>>544717441>Did Piccolo using the Mafuba on Kami render his victory nullin his defense, Shin got "knocked out" officially. Now it would be a different story if Shin's body was put into the jar. That would definitely probably be similar to killing and be a DQ
>>544717373only 1, 2, and Tokyo Drift are canon
>>544717614Shen was the one who initiated the technique tho.
>>544717434>It's basically admitting that he couldn't actually beat goku so he's just going to force a loss using tournament rules.That's more or less what Goku did against Jiren. Everyone who entered the Tenkaichi Budokai agreed by the rules of it. Who wins the Tenkaichi Budokai is who won the fight. At some point you realize you just have to go by who won defacto instead of who played dirty. Did Trunks cheating against Goten make his win invalid?
>>544717801>That's more or less what Goku did against Jiren.Nah, Goku won first with UI and then Jiren tried to play 'blow up the arena' first.>Everyone who entered the Tenkaichi Budokai agreed by the rules of it.There IS no rule about what to do if some fucker blows up the ring tho. Because it's common sense that you don't blow up the fucking ring.Same reason Piccolo blowing up the entire island didn't do shit, because why would there be a rule about that?
>>544717801In something as high stakes as the ToP, I don't think anyone cares other than Goku himself that he didn't beat Jiren by the merit of his own strength. In something like the Tenkaichi Budokai when the whole thing is a pure test of strength/ for fun, blowing the arena feels like a comparatively shittier thing to do. Neither Tien nor Trunks' wins are invalid by the rules of the tournament. But as characters within a story I can comfortably call them frauds for pulling that shit in a tournament with very little stakes
>>544718003Technically, Majunior didn't actually blow up the ring, the mound of raised dirt under the tiles was still there. You could reason that if that counted as the arena then Tien's Kikohole should have still counted as the arena, though.
>>544718312Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at.
You could change up Raditz from being Goku's brother to a random saiyan and nothing in the story would change. if anything it would make me feel better about him not being a wasted mini boss character that jobs in a few chapters and never gets his chance to shine as goku's only living family member left when the canon already wanked Goku's parents
>>544718639It's not a waste, Raditz was never meant to be more and wouldn't have improved the story.
>>544718639The Familial connection honestly barely exists past the chapter he's introduced, anyways. Goku doesn't consider him family and familial connection wasn't gonna stop Raditz from killing him either. I still think it was fine to kill him off, though. I'm not really sure what another saiyan would added to an already kind of bloated cast.
The real trvke is Bardock was ruined by giving him any prominence. The father of Goku special perfectly emphasized how unimportant Bardock was. He was nothing special in an oppressive society. It has a poeticness to it.
>>544718881The People request lusty saiyan babes
On that note i'm kind of confused by the notion that some people have that Gine ruined Goku because it implies his kidness came from her, when that just isn't true and his kindness came from growing up with grandpa gohan + training with kami.>>544719104I like big tiddy monkey girls as much as the next guy but fitting more saiyans into the plot is kinda hard to do, they just kind of cannibalize eachother's relavence
>>544719104Nah. I got a taste of them and they fucking suck. Maybe when feminism and the LGBTQ communities are dead in 10 years we can try again.
>>544719350Gayest anon in this thread
>>544719205make them recurring rather than main characters. surely there's a colony of outcast "weakling" saiyans floating around in space somewhere.
You really think about homosexual people all the time don't you? It sure says something.
Femdom is the extraordinarily gay btw
>>544719540We don't need that kind of capeshit nonsense where every 'extinct' species somehow have 5 billion survivors on a rock somewhere.
>>544719540Yeah nahh. We have too many Saiyans. Having extra Saiyans around kind of dampens everything.>Why didn't bejita ask for their help ever>Why not use them for the god ritual>Why didn't Beerus visit themWhen we already have the hybrids that need development and the U6 shityans.
>>544720163I mean, vegeta isn't exactly someone who would just go to other people for help like that, and you could just have survivors he's unaware about like broly was, beerus didn't visit broly either.
>>544720015Saiyans explicitly cast out all the "unfit" saiyans. the ones who were too weak or didn't have a killer instinct. Goku himself was a victim of this before he was retconned into Monkey Superman. They have to have gone somewhere. Maybe one particularly smart and kind saiyan hacked into the pod dispersal system and reprogrammed it to redirect all the helpless children to a edenic haven where they could live in peace and seclusion.. They don't have to be fighters, which is why I said they don't need to join the main cast.>>544720163Saiyans are by far and away the most popular race in the franchise, it is consistently the one thing fans cannot get enough of. Even with how awful the U6 saiyans were, their popularity still obliterated the popularity of every other multiverse character save for maybe Jiren.
>>544719878If you keep trying to make up gay rules for heterosexual sex you're probably the one who's gay. You might as well claim /ss/ is gay while you're at it. Take some time out of the closet, you're suffocating on your own fumes.
>>544720649>Saiyans explicitly cast out all the "unfit" saiyans. the ones who were too weak or didn't have a killer instinct.To die, yes. The one exception who was legit banished was Tarble because he was royalty.
>>544720919under the assumption they'd die. you think Goku and Tarble were the sole exceptions?
>>544720786>Projecting closeted homosexual If you are submissive to a woman you're gay as shit. Nuff said.
>>544720940he just can't stop jobbing
>>544721159It is heterosexual sex. That is by definition not gay. If you were taking cocks up your supposedly manly asshole, that would be gay.
>>544721113>you think Goku and Tarble were the sole exceptions?All the other exception already had gotten taken back after passing their tests and died with the planet.
>>544721271man I just want a monkey woman with big tits
>>544718639The only thing that bothered me about Father of Goku was Bardock having future sight, but other than that, it was a solid prequel.I think the thing that annoyed me about modern Dragon Ball is that for so many years, Goku never bothered to think about his biological family. His attitude has always been>Parents? Never met 'em. Big bro? He tried to kill me, lmao. Let’s fight!And honestly, that was consistent. Goku being emotionally stunted wasn’t a plothole, it's a part of his character. He grew up feral in the woods with a head injury and a stick for company. Of course he didn’t care about his Saiyan roots. He didn’t even like being a Saiyan for most of Z and calls himself an Earthling. If anything, that apathy was strangely coherent. But then Super rolls around with the Granolah arc and suddenly Goku's got flashbacks, emotional revelations… all pulled straight out of a fanfic written by someone who just read Naruto for the first time (Toyotarou). It’s emotionally shallow when you realize that for 40 years DB existed Goku never asked “Who were my parents?” Bulma asked him once about his parents when they were kids, and Goku just laughed and shurgged it off saying they probably died or abandoned him. I've no idea why Toyotarou or Toriyama (post-95) insists that Goku has to care about his Saiyan family and learn about them when he could have easily asked Vegeta any time since he worked with Raditz so he knew Bardock. Dragon Ball seems to want to have its cake and eat it too. It wants the emotional resonance of One Piece/Naruto (family trauma, generational cycles, moral complexity) but it doesn’t want to earn them. One Piece spends literal decades building up backstories. Naruto bleeds its daddy issues from day 1. DB just brings Bardock back just to emotionally retrofit Goku into a character he’s never been.Anyway, I guess this is what happens when you retcon a story that never really had a plan.
It seems any time GS' developers decide to buff a move, they give big buffs... Buu's S1 was pretty meh damage-wise, now it hits so hard he's doing near DPS damage (And compared to some like Dabura, superior). Gammas' S1 was a cute idea, but not damaging enough and rather slow. Now it hits pretty damn hard and is fast, he shreds bosses' HP with it... Hopefully they never decide to buff any of Trunks' moves.
It's only gay if the balls touch
>>544721615There's no pipeline, your mind is filled with fantasies and fears of homosexual acts.>>544721864Finally someone who knows the lore.
>>544721380they didn't go back for anybody normally. the standard procedure was >they die, or take over the planet and return on their own having passed their trial-by-fireif they happened to integrate, they were written off as dead. Raditz going back for Goku was unusual, and he only did it because the saiyans were functionally extinct and they needed to bolster their numbers.
>>544722606Post her with a black man
i hope they add a MOBA style click-to-move and QWER skill keys control scheme to Gekishin eventually. Shape of Dreams does both control schemes seamlessly.
>>544721820my headcanon is Yemma introduced him to Gine during the 7 years he was dead after Cell. >Goku, I wasn't able to tell you this before because of the circumstances, but I do have someone in my heaven closet who would very much like to meet youfollowed by lots of sappy and cute bonding with Gine being over the moon how much of a man Goku has grown into
>>544722649>return on their ownNothing like that is said anywhere ever.>if they happened to integrateGoku is literally the only case of that ever. Even Tarble had to be banished in adulthood as royalty to do it.
>>544722885Shouldn't have Gine been long reincarnated by that point? Frieza only hung on so long because of pure seethe
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>>544722885Personally I didn't think Goku should care about his parents but after watching DBS Broly, I wish he'd at least remember their goodbyes.Toyotaro completely fucked up the entire idea tho.>>544723015The rules around all that stuff have never been properly introduced and explicitly explained so you can fudge the numbers.
>>544723015Gine was a good girl so she got to go to the good girl heaven like Chichi and Videl during the Buu saga
>>544722930>only example of it happeningaccording to whom? why would Raditz assume he could be alive if it had never happened before, setting the precedent in his head?
>>544721820>And honestly, that was consistent. Goku being emotionally stunted wasn’t a plothole, it's a part of his character. He grew up feral in the woods with a head injury and a stick for company. Of course he didn’t care about his Saiyan roots. He didn’t even like being a Saiyan for most of Z and calls himself an Earthling.He called himself a saiyan rather casually while talking to Kaio, and later talked about sharing Vegeta's saiyan pride before fighting Freeza. He doesn't mind being one, but he'll do what he wants over what saiyans should do, which's what Raditz was trying to do.>But then Super rolls around with the Granolah arc and suddenly Goku's got flashbacks, emotional revelations… all pulled straight out of a fanfic written by someone who just read Naruto for the first time (Toyotarou).Oh yeah, that was bad. The story treating Bardock as a good guy for saving others in a flashback, despite genociding the rest of the species, is nuts too...>I've no idea why Toyotarou or Toriyama (post-95) insists that Goku has to care about his Saiyan family and learn about them when he could have easily asked Vegeta any time since he worked with Raditz so he knew Bardock.I think this is more of a Toyotaro thing. DBS movies never really had Goku exploring his past, it's only Granolah's arc that did so. Even Broly showing Minus is more so for the viewer than anything else.
>>544723357>why would Raditz assume he could be alive if it had never happened beforeRaditz in no way thought Goku had integrated with the natives, he thought they were all dead or enslaved.
>>544723447He wasn't surprised to see people alive when he first showed up, he was disappointed. which implies this has happened before.
>>544722885>SappinessThis is why Goku should have never had a mother, especially a good natured one. Kind of shits on the whole narrative of Goku being special.
>>544723104on his own he probably wouldn't care, but meeting the two of them and especially his mother would probably illicit the same response he had when he saw Grandpa Gohan again. He takes after her more than Bardock, personality-wise.
You're a fucking zoomer bro, you don't have any business complaining about feminized protagonists or whatever schizo homosexual logic your mind operates on.
>>544723713I was half joking. There is no way such a meeting would ever happen in canon because DBZ isn't that kind of series. grandpa gohan is as close as it got and it was really just one page. That's why I said "headcanon".
>>544723840the whole caste system of a low class and super elite still exists, though? the exact reason of goku being sent to earth doesn't get rid of the simple fact that goku had a shit pl when he was born
>>544723713OH MY GOODNESS I WANT TO BE DENJI SO BADLY! WOOF WOOF MOMMY! PLEASE DOMINATE AND STEP ON ME AND LET ME LICK YORU HAIRY ARMPITS!It's not gay because it's a woman btw. You're gay if you wouldn't suck on a woman's foot if she asked you to.
>>544723642It happened in the sense that the Saiyan fucking failed or took in slaves, not in the sense that they went native and just live like randos on the planet.Also no, disappointment doesn't really imply that.>>544723713Goku was never special in that way, he had to hit his head to chill.
>>544723967"He's" off "his" T meds again. Wait a bit for the "him" to calm down.
>Trannys out of nowhereFavorite character?
>>544723713>pici mean, the first jutsu naruto was able to fully use was turning himself into a sexy womanand then he kissed sasuke on the lips
>>544724005Favorite character?
>>544723840It actually make Goku an actual low class because in the old version, this entire gimmick made no sense since Goku didn't even qualify as low class. Exterminating Earth was his test to qualify and he 'failed'.By saiyan cast standard, a legit Sky Child Goku is not even low class, he's a civilian non-combattant relegated to shit like cooking or engineering.
>>544687063>Goku x Loli Videl kino just droppedKinooo>TWFMaybe I set my expectations too high... Funny he made that into an alternate timeline of Golden Age. That timeline is the one where Gohan is an invincible god who'll fuck every hot woman, but here he got cucked.
>>544724216I love Pan and Caulifla
>>544723990Especially since Gine says 'It's too early', not 'There was never any plan to send him off'.
>>544724037that is a pure assumption on your part.
>>544724350Based>>544724301>That timeline is the one where Gohan is an invincible god who'll fuck every hot woman, but here he got cucked.Based, I can only respect the commitment to the bit.
>>544724515You're the one assuming there was some kind of third outcome to the situation we were told only had two outside of Goku's unique case.
>>544724301At least he's able to poke fun at his favorite character. Some folk can't even do that.
Woe, getting banned from /a/ this time REALLY broke him.
>>544724717The eye animation is funny.
What is that guy's obsession with that narrative? They never ban you only from /a/. You always get sitewide bans.I always giggle at his lack of knowledge.
>>544724546>Based, I can only respect the commitment to the bit.TWF is the weirdest Gohanfag I've seen. Gohanfags at times seethe at Goku because he stole the protagonist role from Gohan, but TWF treats Goku with respect. That by itself isn't too weird, but he has at times made Goku and Gohan cuck each other.>>544724717Yeah, it's so unusual...
Very well. Post the Girlkus.
>>544724730>>544724917Stop talking to yourself, faggot.>>544724969That's why I like him.
>>544724973I'll do what I want nigga>>544724969I respect it. I have a favorite but I have enough awareness to give others respect. Most people who want to move on from Goku do it with respect to Goku.
>>544716219>But do people actually count the Tien fight as a W for Tien?I count it as close enough that if he needed to shittalk someone, like vegeta, he would claim it but would out and out admit he didn't win if in front of goku.
>>544724678>told only had twoRaditz's reaction says otherwise.
>>544725465vegeta is enough of a weirdo to claim his saiyan saga fight against goku as a loss, no way in hell would he think tien's 22nd win was really a win
>>544724917I've picked up /a/-only bans, usually for participating in off-topic flamewars or racism.
>>544725579He wouldn't, but he'd still seethe on that technicality enough for it to be funny.>weirdoI can see it, in his mind running away to try and find the moon is cheating, its outside help that he can't reasonably rely on and involves none of his own personal skill
>>544725202the only people I've seen give genuinely bad faith interpretations of Goku are Vegetafags.
>>544725508It doesn't.
>>544725632That has literally never happened for me. I have only gotten 3-days, that I've always evaded. Very rarely will I see a warning.
>>544725698>running awayThat part is definitely losing. The moment you're on the run, the fight is over and you lost.>>544725465Tenshinhan did say he consider he didn't even win. Goku's the one who insist otherwise.
>>544725868Generally you see a warning because you tried to post before the jannie could finish filling up the form to ban you.
>>544725914the funny thing is, Vegeta could have won the fight right then and there. Goku was completely gassed out and couldn't even move. Except when Goku somehow gets enough strength to move and jump around but I try not to think about it
>>544724969To me the most respectful thing you could do for goku is saying his journey is complete sometime after Cell instead of having him repeat the same shit over and over like an idiot; that is if you're deciding to make other characters more important in general.If you're keeping him around then he'd still should shift more towards mentoring the impertinent youth instead of picrel.Goku is the hero of the franchise, no matter what happens he built the foundations and the moment you start disrespecting him you've lost the entire point of dragon ball. He's made some mistakes but always in good faith and won in the end.
>>544726069Yeah but he was too spooked by losing the beam clash so he immediately defaulted to running.
>>544725914>Goku's the one who insist otherwiseSee, that would make a vegeta seething even funnier>oh yeah, i lost to plenty of people before you came around>i mean, even Yamcha gave me a real run for my money at first
>>544726126>To me the most respectful thing you could do for goku is saying his journey is complete sometime after CellI completely disagree, there was literally nothing special about Cell from Goku's side of things.
>>544726324Goku would watch Naruto and come to the conclusion his rival is Krillin.
>>544726339Goku's reasoning that he should stay dead because he keeps attracting trouble was complete bullshit. Even if Goku died at some point, Gero would have still made the androids and the raditz still would have come to earth. You really think Trunks, the guy who came to this timeline in the first place because of events that transpired from goku being dead, would have something to say about all this.
>>544726503what he meant was everything he does to try and fix things only creates more problems down the line. Gero created the androids because Goku smashed up the RRA. Raditz only came to earth because Goku was there. he figured if he was gone, he'd stop instigating people to come fuck around on earth. of course he was wrong, but his logic was consistent.
>>544726339>there was literally nothing special about Cell from Goku's side of things.He died a second time, which would be permadead before namekian dragonballs, and he was massively surpassed by his son whom he specially trained to do so. Thematically it fits as a handing of the torch.And i phrased the statement as I did to purposefully leave buu up in the air. He could still come back to life but he's not at the forefront of every arc still.
>>544726687The problem with that logic is that nothing guarantees the way he dealt with Cell would prevent problems in the long run. Him staying dead is still bad either way.
>>544726687My issue is red ribbon and goku being sent to earth happened as a kid. These are events set in motion decades ago by this point, they wouldn't have been stopped if goku died years ago and potential new threats wont stop now if he's dead. Even if he believes that Gohan will be permanantly stronger than him, depriving the earth of one of its strongest warriors is a dumb thing to do, especially when Goku himself has been bailed out of fights with the help of others, what if Gohan needs that help? Is he supposed to rely on Vegeta who no longer fights and a rapidly irrelavent piccolo?
>>544726503The entire plot point with Gohan kinda introduced last minute if you pay attention, it's just that Toriyama's writing style made it feel very natural, especially with all the potential talk in previous arcs.>>544726693>which would be permadead before namekian dragonballs,Yeah so nothing special. He wasn't even like the third dude to die twice.
>>544726126I completely agree. The longer we keep Goku, who by all accounts has completed his journey, in prominence, the more he becomes just not what he's supposed to be.We're stuck in this limbo.
Even if Gohan is supposed to be protector of earth from now on, wouldn't the best option to take him to otherworld to train anyways?
>>544726909his thought process was "I can't stop what's already set in motion but I can stop new things from being set in motion. I believe Gohan is strong enough now that he can take care of things, and he is smarter than I am so he can probably take care of them better than I could".
>>544727498PROTAGONISThan would have gone to every master of Goku to learn what he could. It's only proper that way.
>>544727502Then why does that require him to stay permadead? If Gohan's around to make sure stuff doesn't get out of hand then what does it matter if Goku is still alive. He's just fucking over his family for no reason
>>544727636Might as well just keep Goku then.>>544727502You know who'd take care of it even better than Goku OR Gohan? Goku AND Gohan taking care of it TOGETHER.
Why don't 40 year olds do everything in reality? Why are young people even needed? Obviously elders don't need successors.
>>544727842This is what i'm saying! Goku leaving the burden of protecting earth to him and only him is ludicrous when most of the fights beforehand have been a team effort. Does Goku just expect Gohan to solo every bossfight and eat shit if he cant?
>>544727960So true business politician man. Let's elect a skeleton as the next President.
>>544727960>Why don't 40 year olds do everything in reality?40 years olds don't just retire and let teenagers do everything, they work WITH the young adults.You'd know that if you had a JOB.
>>544727842>>544727712his belief was that his mere existence would instigate someone into trying to fuck around, and he knows he's too much of a battle autist to handle it in a mature way. by contrast, he knows Gohan doesn't care that much about fighting and therefore won't seek out trouble to prove himself.
>>544727960>Bro, I'm 40, it's time for my son to do literally everything for me, bro, that's a sane thing people do, right, bro?
>>544728176But the only instance where this could have been argued to happen is red ribbon. and even then Goku had no beef with them until they shot his fucking cloud out of the sky and were constantly actively antagonizing him due to conflict of interest over the dragonballs, it was an entirely unavoidable fight.
>>544728176Then he can just be around and defer to Gohan's judgement in those cases, it'll still be WAY easier and safer for everyone if the latest threat is fought by Goku AND Gohan rather than only 1 of them.
Reminder no one could beat Buu. It took the combined energy of every earthling and every namekian to beat Buu. Goku lost to Buu, as did Gotenks and Gohan and Bejita.
>>544728332Goku assumes that he will do something to piss somebody off and start another battle for the world. His frame of reference is that his continued existence only invites trouble, so he concludes that if his existence is gone then trouble disappears too.
>>544728454>It took the combined energy of every earthling and every namekian to beat Buu.It took the entire universe AND the afterlife too.
I think it doesn't really matter what Goku's justification was to stay dead, because in reality it was just an excuse because otherworld had strong people and he wanted to stay there to fight them. >>544728454I don't even think Gohan if he kept up with his training would have been able to beat buu. Gohan would have had no one strong enough to properly train with and nothing to truly motivate him to push himself as hard as possible. Goku leaving gohan to the wolves was fucking stupid
>>544728497Almost every situation goku has been in it's been someone who's already hellbent on fucking over the world and goku just so happens to be around, his presence or not doesn't change that. If not Gero it just would have been the normal red ribbon and if not Vegeta and nappa Radditz would have slaughtered earth unapposed or demon king piccolo, or pilaf takes over, etc etc
>>544728550In one year of training Gohan went from vaguely weaker than he used to be to Blue level. Goku reiterates if Gohan got mad in the Buu arc he had a shot at beating Buu. That's if Gohan would have let Buu be released.There is a world where SS2 Gohan clowns on Fat Buu.>B-b-but ultimate and potential unlockedAnother interpretation on how strong Gohan can get with training was from Toei in the second Broly movie where he's stronger than SS Goten and Trunks in base.Piccolo could catch up to SS2 Gohan and during the later years of the timeskip he had Goten who has insane training gains possibly higher than Gohan himself.
>>544728913I Don't remember piccolo being quoted as around cell games gohan tier, was he? He seemed generally far weaker than any of the saiyans, including gohan
>>544729086During Super he reaches those tiers of power around the Universe 6 arc.
>544729208That's with training by himself too. Training is always better with a partner.
>>544728714Raditz only went to earth to find Goku. King Piccolo was only revived because Pilaf was pissed Goku beat him.
>>544729351raditz was going to happen even if goku's pod crashlanded on earth and instantly killed him, his state of life or death was entirely irrelevant to that happening. Piccolo getting released was also just generally a net benefit long term, but even in the moment that was just one evil tyrant getting replaced with another
>>544729517what I mean is Goku's existence at all incentivised Raditz to come. if Goku had never been born, Raditz would've never come to earth.
>>544729647sure, but goku cant retroactively erase himself from existence. What he can do is try to help deal with the consequences of his existence. Which he has elected to instead put on the shoulders of his 11 year old son
>>544729748you're assuming Goku is smarter than he is.
>>544730394sure but you'd think someone on the lookout would call him out on this, especially trunks, who felt the fall of his entire timeline was predicated on goku being dead
>>544671690I will put that bitch in blender and see how it fits
>>544730467Goku dying was only an issue because he had not groomed a successor. He had no insurance policy. Even without training him, Gohan held out long enough to save the day.Future Gohan was still retarded. I personally think if Gohan had not been such an emotional defeated wreck he could have saved the day
>>544730728future gohan had to have been made before toriyama thought of gohan being the sucessor, it makes no sense for him to be that weak
>>544730795You can rationalize it but it more or less is like you said.I like to think if Gohan drank the ultra divine water he would have gotten the power necessary to win.
>>544730795>future gohan had to have been made before toriyama thought of gohan being the sucessor, it makes no sense for him to be that weakThe funny thing is, the chapter showing Future Gohan was published after Gohan was planned to be the successor (IIRC, it was published right before Cell games), so we have Gohan who was built up as a successor, and another who's so weak, 17 killed him while claiming he only used half power the last time they fought...
>>544731076future gohan got too sad so he lost all of his potential, please understand
>>544731215That's been the fan explanation for a while
>>544731037>super saiyan with capsule corp clotheswhat could even be the other options for him to exist?
>>544731310It's still extremely funny that gohan given a decade+ of training couldn't even match up to halfway of one android whereas prime timeline gohan gets maybe 10 months of training and is strong enough to force perfect cell to actually try
>>544731440>Training with a master vs training on your ownGetting Grade 4 SS also helped
>>544731440Having Goku's direct guidance makes that much of a difference... Just ignore that Gohan's gains from the three years of training for the androids were worthless...
>>544731558I know training with a master usually helps, but it's like Gohan made basically zero progress at all. You would assume his rage boost would at least do something
>>544730728nothing about the bad future makes sense if you think about it hard.
>>544731663>>544731656PLEASE STOP ANALYZING MY FAILURE
>>544731663King Kai + the namekian dragonballs breaks the entire premise. Shit king kai alone breaks it just by the z fighters being able to interact with gohan despite being dead
>>544731421you could maybe have said that Capsule Corp took over the world in the future, or at least were the spearheads in the human resistance against the androids and Trunks was just an employee/member.
>>544731793wagie trunks is an AU I want to see now, just some random saiyan they found who really isn't getting paid enough for this
most of the saiyan's ki comes from the balls, and at some point in the alternate future the androids cut gohan's balls and made him eunuch. thats why he could never reach his true potential
>>544730561Based
>>544731757Yeah. Even if Kaio couldn't find New Namek (Extremely unlikely given how far his telepathy goes), just having Goku talk to Gohan and teach him how to train would do wonders. Future timeline is like a bad what if where everything goes wrong with little logic behind it. Kami even was capable of teleporting to Other World by himself, so that could be a learnable technique too...
>>544731991baba is not only also capable of that, but also could have just brought goku back for a day and have him oneshot the androids. Unless she was dead for some reason but I find that extremely unlikely given she survived the human extinction wave. If buu couldn't kill her I highly doubt the androids would be capable
>>544731583>worthless...Anon, they went from the same sword that cut Freeza to ribbon breaking on 18's skin to actually being able to fight them a bit, that's a massive jump.>>544731991The future timeline suffers the most from all the rewrites, it was probably WAY simpler when the bad guys that destroyed it were 19 and 20, swapping to 18 and 17 tangled up a lot of stuff and it just got worse by introducing Cell and THEN his further forms that linked back to 17 and 18.
>>544731991there's also zero uncertianty as to whether or not king kai can find new namek, he's the one who does so in canon extremely casually and with no effort
>>544731757I just assume defacto there was something preventing the dead from talking to the living. It's more interesting that way.You can easily still have Gohan win.>Gohan seeing his failures decides to retrace his father's footstepsGiving Gohan Korin's training and Roshi's/Goku's training philosophy would greatly amp him. With Korin comes the ultra divine water which would unlock a bunch of his potential. Gohan wins with or without the Super Saiyan Grades.>Gohan figures out Super Saiyan can be upgradedBoth Goku and Bejita intuitively feel SS can be upgraded but Gohan doesn't for some reason. Just Grade 2 mogs the 'droids.>Gohan seeing how strong Trunks is decides to produce a more few hybridsGohan annihilates the Androids with a 5 Super Saiyans strong Kamehameha in 10 years.>Gohan holds out 5 or so extra yearsSupreme Kai comes to Earth for the Buu Arc. IF Supreme Kai can't destroy the Androids himself, he can train Gohan. You can choose between Potara Gohanks, Ultimate Future Gohan, or just a more powerful Gohan with the Z sword.
>>544732360>future gohan isn't even as strong as yardrat gokuI think it's actually hopeless for this guy, his potential has gone, it never existed, it's over.
>>544732136Yep. There were too many options to use. I used to headcanon that dying of natural causes arbitrarily caused Goku to reincarnate over keeping his body (Which makes no sense anyway), but even if that were the case, it wouldn't explain why no one else contacted Kaio.>>544732207>Anon, they went from the same sword that cut Freeza to ribbon breaking on 18's skin to actually being able to fight them a bit, that's a massive jump.No? Gohan's gains from the three years of training were pretty minor. The most he did ws knock back Gero with a surprise attack, but otherwise, the only ones who had any notable gains were Vegeta and Piccolo. It's specially bizarre since Goku didn't get that much stronger from the training either.>>544732259>there's also zero uncertianty as to whether or not king kai can find new namek, he's the one who does so in canon extremely casually and with no effortI meant before it was revealed Kaio could casually find it. You could make a point that, since Namekians were moved to another planet, Kaio could actually not find them if he doesn't know the general location of the planet. Even tht point is heavily flawed, because Kaio not being able to find it after years is a hard sell...
>>544732360>I just assume defacto there was something preventing the dead from talking to the living. It's more interesting that way.The problem with that kind of logic is that it contradicts how DB work, period. Kaio helped out everyone find Namek to begin with, and he had no responsibility or even a reason to do so. He did that out of niceness, and to help out a friend.>Both Goku and Bejita intuitively feel SS can be upgraded but Gohan doesn't for some reason.I'd say that speaks how talented Goku and Vegeta are. They both have a better, autistic understanding of the ins and outs of ki and saiyan power. Gohan is that guy who has insane potential but zero control over it, and not as much understanding.>Gohan annihilates the Androids with a 5 Super Saiyans strong Kamehameha in 10 years.Haremhan?
I feel like an easy way to make the bad future happen properly is to make otherworld unavailable. A janemba like event with no gogeta to stop it would be a reasonable setup imo
>>544732940>Haremhan?More or less. it's completely logical in that instance.>He did that out of niceness, and to help out a friend.If no one over the 14 years decided to contact Gohan from the dead, then there's something at play. Whether it be they can't or someone in heaven is an asshole it matter of factly did not happen. It's better thematically if Gohan overcomes it without relying on the dead too.
>>544733667her unquenchable lust for Son boys needs to be stopped
>544732360 (me)>>Gohan holds out 5 or so extra yearsJust realized in this scenario, Cell would have woken up a few years before Supreme Kai comes.You now realize there is a world where the Androids, Imperfect Cell, and Future Gohan all existed in a perpetual triangle for a few years before Ultimate Gohan comes and wins.
>>544733968is the implication that there wouldn't be enough people left alive for imperfect cell to succ to be able to absorb the androids?
>>544734151That and temp alliances between Gohan and the Androids to prevent Cell from getting the upper hand.
>>544732360>Supreme Kai comes to Earth for the Buu ArcIssue with that is Cell is out and about by that point. He might not have much biomass to absorb but the andriods are also weaker and he only needs to be lucky once. If he achieves perfection there's a some chance he could mog shin even without super perfect form.
>>544734839I had forgotten the androids were weaker for whatever reason in the bad future. It really just does keep looking worse for potentialhan
>>544734839Already addressed here >544733968Shin has the Kaikai so he can escape even if Perfect Cell is around. He only needs to meet Gohan once and get him to the supreme world of the Kais. From there Gohan has already won.>>544734938There are a ton of ways Gohan could hold out. The Androids and Gohan can kill Imperfect Cell together. Future Android 17, Future Gohan, and Future Trunks can all holding off Semi Perfect Cell like a Raditz situation where a stronger enemy forced two enemies to team up.This scenario gets better the more I think about it.
>>544734839>If he achieves perfection there's a some chance he could mog shin even without super perfect form.Goku vaguely compares Dabura to Cell, and Shin most definitely can't stand up to Dabura, so a Perfect Cell would be too much for Shin. Piccolo's training in HTC probably made him stronger than Semi Perfect Cell, and if so, then Shin is above that, at least.>>544735512>He only needs to meet Gohan once and get him to the supreme world of the Kais. From there Gohan has already won.I don't see how? Gohan would be too weak to remove the Z sword.
>>544736328>Goku vaguely compares Dabura to CellI would assume he was comparing super perfect cell and not regular perfect cell which changes the equation somewhat
>>544736328A few reasons1. Supreme Kai's planet is a safe haven sanctuary. There's no danger in training safely for as long as he needs to and Supreme Kai can teach him a bit2. It's confirmed anyone from otherworld can visit3. Readily available PotaraIn the one Shin Budokai game Future Gohan can lift the Z sword. Ignoring that, Gohan can work himself up to that for as long as it takes. From there he's either strong enough just by training or he gets to free the old kai and win against Perfect Cell who's way weaker than in the main timeline.Goku being there is unnecessary but very plausible.
>>544733968in my ideal scenario, Future Shin would come with Gohan to the realm of the living years in the future to fight Future Buu. Future Trunks and Future Gohan both get Ultimate, and then potara fuse to Ultimate Gohunks to defeat Buu.
>>544737048>1. Supreme Kai's planet is a safe haven sanctuary. There's no danger in training safely for as long as he needs to and Supreme Kai can teach him a bitShin himself wouldn't be much of a teacher, and there was never any danger in training on Earth since Gohan was shown doing just that with Trunks.>2. It's confirmed anyone from otherworld can visitTrue. Somehow I forgot about that... Though Goku would need to specifically seek out Gohan's ki to teleport there.>3. Readily available PotaraDoesn't matter as long as old Kaioshin isn't around, since Shin doesn't know about it.>In the one Shin Budokai game Future Gohan can lift the Z sword.That was to excuse Future Gohan to be part of the plot at all.>Ignoring that, Gohan can work himself up to that for as long as it takes.Without a proper teacher, Gohan isn't gonna become that strong. If Goku ends up there it'd be fine though.
>>544737523That's way overkill. Ultimate Gohan on his own would be enough. Characters gain more potential as they age. Future Gohan would be ~33. Ultimate Trunks would be stronger than SS2 Trunks who is stronger than DBS SS3 Goku. Elder Kai is overpowered.>>544737625All of what you said is true except the Gohan never being able to pull out the Z sword. He'd become strong enough eventually. Shin is vaguely Semi Perfect Cell level (Above Piccolo and in a manga guide [el manga legendario] it was stated he's MSS Cell Games Goku level) which is enough to train with Gohan. >Though Goku would need to specifically seek out Gohan's ki to teleport there.Goku could or couldn't be there to train with Gohan, either works but I think Goku being there is more fun. Goku managed to sense Gohan's energy during the Buu arc without explicitly searching for him. That's if pulling out the sword purely a strength thing.>"In Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road, Gohan and Shin go to the Sacred World of the Kais to release the Z Sword only to find that Gohan cannot remove it, resulting in their need of the "chosen one". The "chosen one" turns out to be the Future Gohan, who proceeds to remove the sword easily.">That was to excuse Future Gohan to be part of the plot at all.It doesn't contradict anything in the Manga. It can be ignored but it fits narratively. >there was never any danger in training on Earth since Gohan was shown doing just that with Trunks.Kibito can instantly heal Gohan anytime he's tired from training. There is also a small possibility Kibito can heal his arm. As shown with Goku on the trip to Namek senzus make training much quicker because Zenkais and the such. Gohan can get proper rest on the planet, which Goku showed was important for growth. Now I'm imagining Perfect Cell fighting Dabura while all Gohan is training up to eventually pull out the Z sword. This sounds like a fun what if for a video game.
How real is this?
>>544740140>I got really angry>I had an old guy dance around me for a day>I got really angry again
Cac attribute guide for level 180https://twitter.com/ContonMods/status/1984168853530931308?s=19
>>544731867I mean, isn't that just Time Patrol Trunks?
>>544742412for moves that take all of your ki like Power Rush, Emperor's death beam, Revenge Death Ball, Gigantic Explosion, Super Ki Explosion , Godly Display and SS3Vegeta Final Flash, this is gonna make dragonball farming crazy when your opponents have 15 bars of ki On the other hand getting stamina broken is even more of a death sentence than it was before, no one's ever gonna recover that much stam in time before they die
>>544742412Weird, firefox won't let me screencap it
>Cheelai and Broly story is about them adjusting to life in Conton City that Cheelai doesn't wanna go home back to her timelineQuestion, if keeping people out of their timelines isn't good explain Xeno Trunks, before Super happened they treated Xeno Trunks like he was from the true timeline and this is what happened to him after defeating Cell, his price for that was to serve the time patrol for the rest of his life, there's also the time patrolers themselves, don't they all come from various timelines themselves? Then there's the version of characters bumbing around Conton as instructors, isn't having them around also a problem? Instructor Freiza was implied to be from the namek saga when this game started yet now he's got his golden form somehow.Is every single bit of this franchise just ape shit when it comes to a concrete narrative?
>>544740140>Hard training with two AngelsIt's fake, Goku only trained with one Angel.
>>544687063>Loli Videlthat's just note
>>544737523Ultimate Future Gohan alone would smoke Dabura. Hell, a Future Gohan thats been training with Goku in the afterlife would probably be able to nodiff Dabura with SS2 while keeping Shin alive.
>>544723713The thing that makes Goku special is his mentality, always has been.Anyways, nice Saiyajins have been a thing since Toriyama introduced Tarble. It's clear his view of the race and everyone else's was always at odds, but the anime cared more about showing off the Saiyajins than he did.
>can't upload imagesthe fuck, I'm an American
>>544730728>>544730795>>544731663In regards to Gohan's power, that does make some sense.Recognize that Gohan spends the future constantly fighting and not really training until he recruits Trunks, and for Gohan in the future, his life looked like this>0-4 years oldPeacetime>5-6 years oldConstant training/fighting>7-9 years oldPeacetime (and dead dad)>10 onwardsConstant fighting (not really training since everyone else is dead)People talk up zenkai boosts but those don't actually do anything. Goku benefits from them because he trains, understands and presses his limits more, but Vegeta tries to game the system and fails utterly.Gohan just going out, getting his ass kicked, and coming back does nothing for him. Losing his arm especially is bad because that forces him to completely change his fighting style.As for nobody talking to them after death or finding the Namekians, yeah that's pretty dumb, but who knows. Maybe some excuse could be invented if Toriyama had ever been forced to talk about it, like Bulma couldn't build a spaceship to New Namek because #17 and #18 would instantly see it and blow it out of the sky.
>>544748079Note is NOT for lewd
>>544740140>shartngaewwwwwwwwww
>>544751634>Note is [ PURE LIES ]
>>544751286They took the hat girl's hatShe's naked now
>>544749571>burgers are image-bannedthe site is saved
>>544722710what if i post her as a black man instead? (she is dressed as mr game and watch for halloween)
>>544761770It was temporary, Jimpley, 4chan remains an American website (doubly so with whatever the hell the UK is doing)
>>544746529Chronoa said it herself, she just likes having Trunks around.
>*Freeza Saga's your Vegetto*
>>544768679this is more like it
I guess this was more back in the day for FighterZ but anyone actually fucking annoyed with the amount of fucking retards who just kept going>HURRDURR CAN WE GET A NARUTO FIGHTERZ CAN WE GET HUNTERXHUNTER FIGHTERZ CAN WE GET JUJUTSU KAISEN FIGHTERZlike holy fucking shit it takes roasterfagging to another fucking level
>>544769071>>544768679>when Frieza gets his immortality wish
>>544769353nah dude. cause we do need more "FighterZ" style licensed anime games and less arena fighters. though for my money i'd rather slam them all into Jump FighterZ than produce 10 different games so JoJo's, Naruto, BNHA, JJK, KnY, HxH, etc can all have individual fighters. except Pretty Cure, Pretty Cure needs its own FighterZ game since it's not a SJ property.
Can we get a Naruto Fighterz, HxH Fighterz, or a JJK Fighterz? I think the games would turn out well and each of those series have characters that would be fun to play as.
>>544769764SHUT THE FUCK UPGET YOUR OWN FUCKING ROASTERFAGGING OFF MY FUCKING DICK. AHHH NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT YOUR OTHER SHOUNEN JUMP SERIES DRAGON BALL IS KING
>roasterTRI-TIP IS BEST MEAT, FUCK YOU, ALL SAIYANS SHOULD EAT TRI-TIP and maybe some corn or mashed potatoes with it, ROAST IS SO GENERIC AND BLAND
>>544723713>leashWhere's the Makima brap
Kys a good roast with gravy made from the fat is one of the best things on earth. Smoked meat is still king though.
>Note Posting still in almost 2026Sometimes you guys are alright
>>544770354YEAH I BET YOU LOVE SMOKIN, FILTHY ROASTFAG, TRI-TIP IS FOR MEN, MANLY MEN!
Tri tip is for niggas who got lots of money
>>544694887>yummysloppoUnbelievable Daimakeks think he's redeemed because he wasn't directing the artstyle for once.Episode 19 looked like an average Super episode, especially the parts with Vegeta
>>544770881No you're thinking of DRIP
>>544707057He'll be relevant again in S2 with gag episodes featuring Werewolf and Gargoyle.They're saving him from becoming Minotaur burger meat
>>544762025>Thigh gap
>>544694887>>544695056It's a series without which your FLOPma wouldn't exist, so kneel, pup.
>>544768679what is the Mandela effect where some fans remember Vegetto wearing green Potara when he only ever wears a yellow pair? no criticism, it's a good drawing, i'm just curious. somebody mentioned this the other day when i posted my FighterZ Pass 4 wishlist and the Vegetto render i posted didn't have green Potara on.
>>544771943erotic
Post that muzeli-bardock-fasha image
>the gag villain turns into jiren and creates a ToP arena to fight everyone instill can't believe thats how daima actually ended, the brain cancer went crazy here
>>544773669it's wild that the last 3 Toriyama villains (Granolah and Moro were Toyotaro) are all big red guys. Jiren, Cell Max, then back to Gomah. Toriyama's mind was definitely starting to go toward the end. Gomah looking like the leader of the Pride Troopers when you put him in their lineup is diabolical.
The idea of Black and Zamasu being able to perfectly copy the Metamoran dance after seeing it once because they're so in-sync thanks to being the same being goes kinda crazy. I also like the idea that their Metamoran counterpart would inherit Goku's skin color instead of Zamasu's.
is it possible to backport Xenoverse to the GBA?Here's my blueprint>overhauled Sonic Advance 3 or Battle engine, so overhauled it's basically pic related >Advanced Adventure sprite work, can be chibi or consistent >gameplay system is basically Supersonic Warriors but on a z-axis>3D Backdrops looks similar to DBZ The Legend>L to charge up, L+A to chase, etc>Press R to Shuffle around attacks, Hold R and press either A, B, L, or any button combo to access attacks, power ups, and specials >L+R or select to fix camera unless you got some camera wizard to make a system for that.
i can't believe they added a colorable version of this outfit. what an update
Dragon Ball adventure peaked with the Muscle Tower.
>>544777958It peaked in the first half of Namek
>>544723990"Fuck off, trash lmao" is a lot different from what we ended up getting
>>544776205>he thinks he can execute J
>>544778060This too, although Namek is more of a guerilla setup
>>544778283Jiren is a jew?
>>544778401It's a very well known fact.
>>544777293now draw her getting back tingles
>>544778463No wonder he's seething at the superior race
>>544777293i wish the U6 Saiyans were about the same size as Fasha. she's slender but still has strong legs and lightly-defined arms.
Man I like Baby but, they really need to buff his defenses... He's way too squishy for a tank, and after the buff Zamasu got, they really should give something of the like for Baby...
>>544778941it stands testament to how thirsty people are for female saiyans that a character that got maybe one line of dialouge in the ova is still somewhat popular
>>544774943This is kino desu>>544773669Daima didn't have a single original idea, which is wild for a trailblazing series like this one. A real disappointment from start to finish>>544773307There are like 30 of them>>544778941Her hair looks like she cut it even though she was born with it. That bothered me because I like long hair.
>>544779354the ONE
>>544777293your drawings sucks, stop posting
>>544780575awesome! have you drawn ribrianne?
>>544780823You've been saying this to random art posts for YEARS. Can't imagine having a life as sad as yours.
>>544780823Go look at the senran kagura scribbletard's shit and say that, this guy is actually good
>>544782029>filenameI'm reading it in Big Green Broly's voice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2-xuUffi4
>>544777293now draw her giving paizuri
>>544784508with her top still on*
I still don't get why people put Buu saga as the worst in dragon ball.
>>544785312I put buu as the worst arc of the original manga run. But that doesn't mean it's entirely irredeemable or anything I just like it less than everything else. Dragonball never really gets *terrible* but shit like majin vegeta being entirely offscreened and some stiff coreography in a few fights was pretty noticeable
If there's a remake of Z, will Goku still have the fluffy white hair in the Frieza saga?
>>544785675No.
>>544786113yes
>>544785312it's too silly, coming off the back of Cell
>>544785675I also find it bizarre how Goten, Goku and Gotenks are so uncaring.>Goten sees Buu killing his mother>Later decides to play along with Trunks' antics to delay the fight>Gotenks learns Buu ate everyone>Which includes Bulma>His "serious" moment lasts a total of 10 seconds>Buu destroys the entire planet>Seeing Krillin get killed made Goku ultra pissed>Seeing Earth destroyed only makes Goku mildly sad and he's back to messing around with Buu
>>544786151>>544786337No.
>>544751634Not only IS Note for LEWD, she LIKES it! She is LEWD MONKEY!
>>544786883They're kids and also went SS3. That's like unlocking god mode in a multiplayer game and NOT T-bagging your opponent. Also they know they can bring back everyone on Earth with the Dragon Balls + Namekian Dragon Balls. Goku didn't know Krillin could be brought back in Frieza's saga. I dunno I feel like most people take Buu Saga too seriously, it's all about removing the facade which I like. Everyone knows they're out of their heads so they have to rely on the kids or Goku. The kids knew they could easily 10-0 Buu so messing around with him and torturing him isn't an issue.
>>544786883also idk, Goku looks pretty fucking pissed and distressed when Super Buu kills everyone.
>Toriyama was probably a better artist and his fight choreography was superior to Oda’s, but One Piece is a far denser, more complex narrative than DBZ.I'm genuinely curious, what did this redditor mean by this? I never read OP past that sky cloud arc so I have no idea if he's talking out of his ass
>>544772160It's not mandela effect you dumbass, Shin and the elder's potara are canonically green so Vegetto's potara should be green too.
>>544787960I mean I feel that's probably true because dragonball is not a dense or complex narrative at all, it's extremely straightforward. The implication is that one piece is better for its complexity when I dont think it would have added anything to dragonball if it were more complex.
>>544787289the issue is Goten and Trunks have both lost a parent to Buu earlier that day. Kids don't act like that when around the psycho who they watched kill their mum/dad.
>>544788130It's more of I think One Piece is a pretty simple straightforward narrative too until I assume they go all shipuuden on its ass but Super does that shit too, so what the hell did this guy mean by that?
>>544788158you'd think Gohan would be angrier at buu for the fact that he killed his mom and sorta girlfriend
>>544788158As I said, they're still mad but it's more like their own way of torturing Buu. >DIE DIE MISSILE BARRAGE
>>544788393when Gohan saw Goku die he went full turbo tard rage.
>>544788563Gohan's anger is weird by this point. Remember he just kinda stood there like a dumbass when the cell juniors were attacking people
>>544788682Toriyama was more concerned with drama than with consistency, just his style. Compare how Gohan as a 6 year old had a ruthless killer instinct on Namek that is completely gone by the time he's 11.
>>544788885I've seen plenty of justification for why Gohan did what he did there, and even if I don't believe any of them solve the narrative incongruity, the real out of character thing people dont bring up is what the fuck was Goku's problem hiding the plan from Gohan, he's never done that before. It's not like Gohan had ever had a hard time getting angry or anything either
Another thing I have a problem with is we are told Goku is at his limit and that he had nothing else up his sleeve, but we've seen Goku when he's actually like that. He's beaten within an inch of his life and his clothes are shredded like near the end of namek pre super saiyan and post xxk4 goku. we are told by goku himself that he's gassed out and out of options, but he really doesn't look the part at all, which makes the gohan thing look far more cruel and callous
can we go back to the one piece statement because I'm still confused what that redditor meant by that
>>544789531It's not that complex, he's basically just saying that while he thinks dragonball has better fights, in his opinion one piece has a better plot, whether or not you agree with that is up to you.
>>544789521I think Goku was feeling Cell out and when it got to the point where he's like "damn yeah don't think plan A is going to work" that's when he tags out Gohan.And as I said a million times over, Gohan HAD this already 20-0 Cell. It's annoying we can't get this defined because Gohan barely faught Cell before he tried talk technique but Gohan went in there like "alright". Dude Gohan was so above their level, he thought Cell and Goku were playing around.
>>544786883>>Seeing Earth destroyed only makes Goku mildly sad and he's back to messing around with BuuThat's more because everyone was already dead, and the few who weren't had their deaths on him.
>>544789673>better plotno he said more complex plot but what the fuck does he mean by that??? the red herring bad guy who's actually a nice person almost every arc????
>>544786337The real issue is that Cell was too serious. It's fun but it's also horrifically out of place with how much it tries to play up the drama.
Cell was a clusterfuck anyways because of his editor.
>>544789868it's like when people say deconstruction but really just mean subversion. Saying a plot is more complex is just synonymous to saying it's better >>544789704I'm more talking about Goku's quote in pic related. he SAYS that he held nothing back and that he was fighting full on, but he doesn't really look at all like he's completely gassed out or at the end of his rope, it creates this weird incogruity where you think that goku was just testing cell out like you said, but the plot is acting like goku tried everything
Also just like, why WOULD goku give up willingly? What does he have to lose by staying in the fight as long as possible? He loves fighting and this is the kind of shit he lives for.
>>544789915all of Z skews heavily towards serious. the Ginyu Force and King Kai training arc are about as silly as it gets, outside of filler.
>>544790316he wants gohan to take this because he wants a successor to Earth's Protector
>>544790771he's going to do that anyways because Goku knows he's going to lose, doesn't mean that Goku wouldn't try his best anyways.
>>544790608Not entirely, there's still plenty of levity even beyond those.Sure, they're more serious than, say, Red Ribbon Army, but they still have far more time to breathe, relax, and let sillier things happen than Cell. There's really no room for comedy in Cell at all from the start of the arc to Mr. Satan's introduction. The closest you got is the brief gag of Goku stealing Roshi's glasses at the start.
>>544790857It's again more of Gohan had this 20-0. So why fight for his damn life and scare off Gohan instead of just making Gohan kick his ass
>>544791389Scare off? Since when has Gohan ever been "scared off" by people he loves being attacked?
>>544790857 He already gave it his best shot, he's happy he got as much out of the fight as he could for himself, but he was happy to then let Gohan finish it and take the W
>>544791389I mean let's be honest here Gohan thought Goku was stronger than him here. I don't think he would really want to fight after Cell beats Goku to near death. The senzu bean I don't have a head canon for but again Gohan had this 20-0 so it's whatever.
>>544791240that's mostly anime filler. and my point was Buu takes it too far in the opposite direction, particularly early on it has the same sort of tone as the Pilaf Saga in regards to how comical it is. Buu himself is like an evil King Kai in terms of tone.
>>544791596my issue is, Goku doesn't look at all like he actually gave the fight his "best shot" we've seen what that looks like from piccolo diamo, majunior, vegeta, frieza, etc. Goku at the end of the fight looks mildly tired, not near like he gave it his all. Everyone including Cell being super suprised that he's giving up now feeds this.
>>544791548It's more of in his head Goku is their strongest fighter. It's better morale if Goku quits early and goes "yup it's your turn" rather than "oh fuck he fucking kamehameha'd me where I'm missing half my body oh god i can't feel anything oh fuck fuck fuck gohan YOU NEED TO DO THIS YOU'RE OUR LAST HOPE"
>>544791794going by his characterization in namek, gohan should damn near immediately snap if he sees that happen to goku. This is the kid who continually gave it his all against frieza again and again and again, why would Goku think he would instantly fold against cell. This is the same Gohan who wanted to help VEGETA from getting beat up by frieza
>>544789915>Cell was too serious>Vegeta: GOKU WOULD RATHER DIE THAN WIN LIKE THAT >Goku: I give up! I know what you mean but that's gotta be one of the funniest fucking scenes I've seen in this manga
I don't think Toriyama put more thought into the Cell Games than "lol an 11 year old is stronger than the entire cast"
>>544791648>that's mostly anime filler.No, I was thinking of stuff like Gohan's early stuff, the opening gags of Namek with all the new designs, Vegeta's fight with Kewi, the Ginyu Tokusentai, these all lend themselves to being comedic. The Cell arc really doesn't have anything like that.
>>544791978Maybe but again the biggest defense I have is Gohan had this 20-0. That's why it annoys the shit outta me when people go like OMG GOKU IS A BAD FATHER HE GAVE A SENZU TO CELL when Gohan doesn't say anything but power up.
>>544792278No i'm well aware that Gohan is stronger than goku even just in his base super saiyan, and I am annoyed at piccolo giving Goku shit because if he had a better idea it would be nice to hear it
>>544792129Completely unrelated, but man Naruto fucking sucks.For any faults Dragon Ball, Bleach, One Piece, Gash Bell, Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter, Baki, Karakuri Circus, Dai no Daibouken, for any faults most shounen have, I can think of very few that just explicitly feel as "written by committee" as Naruto. Life-sucking manga.
>>544792457Naruto or Naruto Shipuuden?
>>544792516All of it.
>>544777293Your drawings slap, keep posting
>>544789083>the real out of character thing people dont bring up is what the fuck was Goku's problem hiding the plan from Gohan, he's never done that before.I see this horrible communication as a meta way to have characters find out things alongside the reader. Trunks also told everyone nothing about the androids (Not even something as simple that they have no ki), all so the characters find out alongside the reader.
>>544792903Well objectively yes you are true, Goku hiding the gohan thing was solely meant to have it be a suprise for the reader. I can forgive the trunks thing because the writing of androids saga was weird and fucky by that point, but Goku doesn't have that excuse, it's just him being plain ooc
>>544792129Rape
>>544792612first two arcs, Land of Waves and Chunin Exams, are fantastic. the series falls off the rails at the end of part 1 and never recovers.
>>544793186No, it's just all bad and clearly written by a room of people rather than from one person's own ideas. Those first two arcs in particular are so shallow and so by the numbers that, were it written today, I would assume an AI had been the lead writer.
>>544779048The games where Fasha is playable helps in that regard.
>>544779354nothing says Saiyans can't cut their hair. Vegeta says they have a certain style they're born with but that can easily be interpreted as "it grows to that length and no longer" like your pubes or eyebrows. her natural hair might be shoulder length or something but she prefers the 80s power suit-ed female executive look. GT kinda explores that with Vegeta cutting his hair to be more "human" and then decides he doesn't like it that way so it starts to grow back into its natural spiky state later on.
>>544795031That's not why he changed his style, he did it because Bra called his mustache ugly
>>544792457The games are better at least
>>544795257that's what I was getting at with the "decided he didn't like it".
>>544795031>GT kinda explores that with Vegeta cutting his hair to be more "human" and then decides he doesn't like it that way so it starts to grow back into its natural spiky state later on.When does that ever happen?
>>544795468That isn't HIM deciding it that's his daughter not liking it and him bending to her wants
>>544797126he could say no. regardless, my point was it shows that at least in GT, saiyans can change their hairstyle.
>>544799546Why doesn't piccolo have a costume? Is he just going as himself?
>>544799546I want to see more of Videl's outfit
I wanna get my friends more into DB after my sister but I think I have to rethink my strategy.... I don't think starting from Vol 1 is the best move here.
>>544799671Piccolo is allergic to having any sort of fun. All he does every single day is sit around and meditate, the only people he ever talks to is the Z Fighters and their families, and he lives far away from any human civilization.
>>544800174The 22nd budokai is honestly a pretty good starting point assuming they know who goku and krillin is through general cultural osmosis
>>544800556Hey that's not true, Gohan's basically hired him to play daycare provider for pan these days. He also seems to have grilling as a hobby weirdly enough, going by super.
You guys are going to hate me for this question but you guys got any DB youtubers that cover the games? I'm getting a SHIT ton of people who just "nostalgia" play (aka shitters) or whiny british fucks. I was looking for someone who actually digs deep into the game's mechanics and/or know a lot about the competitive scene or nature or history about development and shit. But I swear as I said before all I see are either people who nitpick using stale memes I've heard a million times before or literally reading off the instruction manual.
>>544799546>Beast in Gohan's the reflection
>>544742412>Equip a +24/-0 qq bang, add all the points to health, basic attack, and either super attacks depending on the race and build, no need to invest in ki or stamina.Unless you really like to farm for TP medals and Dragon Balls, investing in anything besides your attacks seems redundant.
>>544742412I just cheat and max out all stats. Which doesn't seem to do anything.
>>544800556woah he's just like me
>>544704623>Does it still give basically nothing of that EX currency?Yup.
>>544794252So, all 3 of them?
>>544799671That is Tien dressed as Piccolo.
>>544800762bump
>>544800762There's Ndukauba but he mostly does Legends stuff.
>>544807665>Legends stuffno please I fucking hate this trash game after investing like $1k every month only to not get ultra gohan.
>>544800762>>544807503only one remotely close to that i know is the guy going over "secrets" and "hidden details" of the db games, which sometimes are what you said but most of the time it's "did you know in BT when you use solar flare the opponent will actually close their eyes??!?! And that if it's Roshi then it won't work cause he's using sunglasses, until they break from damage and then it works??!?"which i mean it's cool stuff
>>544807842oh I know him.he's okay. sometimes he does head canon though but whatever I forgive him. not really that indepth though.
>>544722553Stupid apes.
>>544799671He's going as the great Demon King Piccolo this year
You know, something I noticed reading the start of the gohan versus cell fight is it reads kinda goofy. At the very beginning gohan's seemingly ready to fight, and only AFTER he gets shoved into a rock does he try to appeal to cell. For whatever reason he also just kinda explains to cell how his anger power works, for whatever reason? Like why did he do that?
>>5448077751K a month on a fucking mobile game? You can't be serious.
>>544811842quiet luxury senpai. i saved like 2k a month and i was in a dark space. tbf that was the LAST time I spent on gacha. I am completely clean and now I spent that 1k a month on gunpla and clothes...
>team's Miniku only ever cares about attacking GoDs>it's his lane's time to defend>boss is on his lane>he neither defends nor fights a boss>he goes for the GoD on my lane>he always abandons the post at defense even as he's right next to GoD that's about to be attacked or is being attacked and just hopes to backdoorIt's really annoying when one player basically loses the game for everyone.
>>544800174Tell them to skip to Tao Pai Pai if they don't like Toriyama's humor.>inb4 it's in the middle of an arcTechnically, but the story is very simple, impossible to get lost in. You basically begin with a sub-arc about an assassin set after our hero and a bunch of newly introduced side characters.
>>544811995>ClothesAre you a woman?>>544812132Me in XV2 when Gohan is added to the dating sims.
kek i just remembered about the SACRED OINTMENT how come nothing ever came out of it LMAO
>>544815141hey man can't a dragonigga appreciate some cool ass y3 without getting grilled damn bro. MG Turn A grab his nuts to the shadow realm.fuck yeah tcgs are also taking my money now.
>>544815308>fuck yeah tcgs are also taking my money now.The DB TCG included or just Magic The Gathering and Yu Gi Oh?What deck would Goku play?
What was his plan
>>544817663DB not yet. Mostly Yugioh but I got into the Digimon TCG....
>>544817751I once had two players attack me when I was at my tower... And Zeno wasn't attacking it. I was also at full health. They died for nothing.
Is the moba game okay on pc with controller? I need something to do while on the bike
>>544819951>Is the moba game okay on pc with controller?Sure, it's made with mobile in mind so mouse and keyboard is around as good as controlers for it IMO.
To nobody's surprise, Toppo is OP as fuck.
>>544820620What exactly? I've had a few games with and against him, the only noteworthy thing I've noticed is the counter into ult combo.
>>544821331He can melt the entire team at once just by popping his skills that put marks on you, it's basically impossible to win a team fights if he's there, especially if he's combo'd with a SSJ3.And it's basically impossible to get a Boss if you don't have your own Toppo.
>>544821331SSJ3 turns everything into a team fight.Toppo insta win team fights.Gotenks make SSJ3 and Toppo even better at what they do.
Now any time I notice a bot on my team, I report them for uncooperative gameplay.
>AFK ROBOTAFK ROBOT>AFK ROBOTAFK ROBOTTHIS IS NOT A DRILL I GOT A REAL AFK ROBOT ON MY TEAM WHEN I TURNED CROSSPLAY OFF
>>544821769>>544821980Really? I haven't seen anything on that level yet... Which's odd since I'm playing a bunch.
>>544781228Once yeah. I'll draw her again later
I really don't understand the hype with him. as a character He feels like a less interesting Frieza. Frieza is the embodiment of evil (from birth) everything he does is cruel and calculated while Cell is only evil because of a super computer? too many asspulls associated with his character. He can summon minons, self-destruct and you have to completely erase him or else he'll regenerate from even a tiny embryo .on the other side he has the most fanfic potential in the franchise with all new forms and abilities now. I'm surprised we haven't gotten a Golden SSJG Orange Cell hybrid
>>544829497Cute!
>>544829497everyone in universe shit on the saiyaman outfit but it looks great, z-fighters have no fashion taste
>>544836632sexo, artist name?
>>544836141I'd say he's interesting because has the haughtiness of everyone who tried to destroy the world up to that point + the boner for Goku he inherited from Gero.
>>544795257>>544795651Did you even watch GT?
>>544837680Did YOU?
>>544836491>>544836632If you think either of these are attractive, you are not just gay, you are pedogayLooks like little boys
>>544837976I didn't say anything about that Pan pic being cute. self report on your part, friend
JACKED
>>544838236Gay>>544838267Gayer
>>544837728Bejita has cut hair in GT hair. Go watch the show nigga. He did it presumably to fit in better with earthlings but it's never directly stated.
>>544839614And he shaves his mustache and changes his style because Bra called him a dweeb
>>544836632>MusclefaggotryRepulsive
>>544837680Did you?Vegeta never "grows back" his hair in GT. It's cut short from the beginning and his character design stays the same.OP said>and then decides he doesn't like it that way so it starts to grow back into its natural spiky state later on.Which literally never happens.
>>544829497Cute>>544832940>>544836632Hot
>>544839976>he doesn't want a woman with a strong back to carry his childrenWhat are you, gay or something?
>>544839930Bra only said the mustache is dweeby. And the conversation was about Bejita cutting his hair.>>544840047Bejita does have a different hairstyle mid GT than early. Go look. He goes from the flat top to spiked.
>>544784508>>544785224>>544777293since you didn't do it, I did it myself
>>544841313Based
What could possibly be so strong that it kills the CAC and makes Fu panic and start bombing other universes, corrupting shenron, and letting frieza become a time god and destroy conton city?
>>544841313ZAMN!
>>544841757EVIL Goku
>>544841757Me
>>544841757That's why this whole thing is weird to me. 95% of the enemies in this game are characters from Z, GT and Super but they're purple. And that includes all the enemies that've been in this DLC saga. I can't really be excited for the conflict and threats in this series anymore when that's clearly all they're capable of doing.
>>544841926It's going to be Angel Gohan. Trust the plan
>>544841926>July/September 2026>We finally get to see the big bad that has Fu scared shitless, the monster that possibly kills us, the enemy they've been building up to for 2 years>it could literally be anyone, Moro, Mechikabura, Aeos, Sealas, a completely original character that brings about a new and interesting conflict and finally brings a major change to Xenoverse's status quo>...it's Ultra Supervillain Omega Shenron and temporarily evil fu after he experiments on himself a little bit more
>>544841757>that it kills the CACLiterally anything. CAC's power level is completely random. It could be that rabbit Carrot and that's about as plausible as a slightly stronger Cell.
Chronoa has a Time God of Destruction btw. It's a female
>>544843002Proofs?
>>544843435I astral projected it into reality. Expect it to appear as if it was always there.
>>544843569Schizoku...
>>544842591>MoroNo.>Mechikabura, Aeos, SealasI'm not sure. Heroes is abandoned...>it's Ultra Supervillain Omega ShenronThinking of it, there wasn't any GT villain in these DLCs right? Maybe it's to build up to that.
>>544843823Hello bandai namco employee. When was the last time you made a new character?
>>544801212Max Stamina/Blast majin girls + final explosion is sick>>544801585you can't go past the regular cap, that got patched
>>544841757Moro
>>544852386Nono
Gas
>>544841757Granolah (he asked to be the strongest in the omniverse in one of the timelines)
>>544852741More like Ass
Saganbo
>>544852889>Asks to be the strongest in the omniverse>Toronbo grants the wish>Granolah dies a minute later
This shit looks so goddamn good (trailers start around 02:30). I wish Sparking Zero had been more inspired by DB Legends. Seeing SS4 Goku with the Lightspeed 10x Kamehameha is so peak.https://youtu.be/ffMveO_Ew0c?si=bq2wgYxj1L7R6IHp
Uub's skill 2 is such a weird move. His firing rate increases to ridiculous degree, but the damage of his rush attack is lowered. The game does this whenever a character can attack faster (Each of Kale's rush attack do more damage when she's alone compared to when she's around other characters, but the DPS is lower because when she's around someone, she's shooting faster), but the problem is that it uses use his Cyclone at the rate he's shooting. A level 13 Uub with a red card, a green card, and a blue card will do around 60% damage on a level 15 Vegeta without skill 2, 40% damage with skill 2... Of course, Uub uses it all much faster (10 seconds to use all of Cyclone without skill 2, 5 seconds with it), it makes sense to balance it out like this, but the problem is that it makes skill 2 at levels 1 and 2 pretty weak, and this is an attempt at a balanced move where Goku duo exists... Really wish the move got a buff, but if Buu and Gammas skill 1 buffs are any hint, they may go a little overboard with it...
>>544856409giving Vegetto Blue Vergil's Motivation Meter mechanic so he can swap between two sets of Blast skills is galaxy brain design philosophy.>>544779048true and real!
>>544856897I've always wondered why Fasha's crotch area is weirdly.. puffy. it's like she's wearing a pad under her leotard.
>>544841757Demigra but he’s purple with a black outline
>>544857458Big puss.
>>544858070KEK
>>544858107shape is different. if it was puss, there'd be a subtle W shape created by the lips. it's a U shape, though, which implies she's wearing something thick in there.
>>544859191Those are just thick panties
>>544841757Pregnant Chi-Chi (forma Oscuro)
>>544832940spooky!i look forward to the drawing too
Did anyone see 21 at the Halloween party? woooot!
>>544685638Sorry negro, Pikkon is peak and when gets into Gekishit I'll carry your ass with him too.
>>544861894No, i didn't want to go out so I summoned a succu21 at home instead
>>544685638>name a worse character design in Dragon BallSpike the Devil ManSuper Android 13Android 14Android 15Android 19Bio BrolyHatchiyakSpopovich and YamBibidi and BobidiFat BuuHirudagarnGold FreezaGranolahUltra Ego VegetaGasBeast Gohanthe GammasCell MaxDaima SS3 VegetaDaima SS4 GokuFinal Form Gomahi don't even think Pikkon is a Bottom 20 design. he might not be Bottom 25 if i reach into GT for Rildo and some of the lame Shadow Dragons.
>>544862621>Granolah>GasThese are good designs buddy. Granolah looks rad as hell. >Spike the Devil Man>Super Android 13>Android 14>Android 15>Spopovich and Yam>Fat Buu>HirudagarnAll of these are better than Pikkon. The rest are worse than Pikkon. Funny that only recolors, intentionally ugly characters, and brain tumor characters are uglier than Pikkon.
>That faggot is talking to himself again
>hating pikkonjust say you're gay. Its easier, movie pikkon sucked though
>>5448626212/?
>>5448633983/?
>>5448635304/?
5/? is here >>544698506>>5448637506/?
>>5448640437/?
You coulda just linked them anon, don't have to spam
Base DBS Goku > SS4 GT Full Power Goku > Base GT Goku > SS4 Daima Goku and GomahShrimple power scaling
>>5448641758/8
>>544864372That's stupid, that shouldn't do anything special
>>544864481it's just a cool series of drawings, anon. you're overthinking it.
>>544864559I don't bitch about Kengan Omega every week to accept a nonsensical move in a fight on /dbg/
>>544863258Take your meds
>>544864304He needs to spam because he wants attention.
>>544864951He doesn't like his fanfics being criticized.
The sperg talks like a condescending autist. Funny how he contributes nothing and doesn't have a single talent.
Man, they give us all this time with super broly yet we don't get LSS or Wrath form as awokenings? It'd of been so easy too, Wrath goes to everybody and LSS for saiyan exclusitivity, everybody wins. I like how the voice filter was such a problem Johnny and Freiza's VAs actually had to come out and say that's not what they sounded like at recording, at least Johnny took the hulk comparisons in stride, bet Sean would never do that, through I think he came out and admitted that the batman voice for Goku Black back then was because they litterally didn't know what the guy was supposed to sound like until they started dubbing anime episodes, apparently Cabba, Frost and Hit were the same way back then, as was Jiren.If that's true and not coping from dubbies then why is this run so poorly? lack of communication with the overseas team or what? Sorry for the rant, I just drank and it's 5 am on a Saturday
>>544869941so that wasn't a glitch in the voice?
>could've had USV Cheelai in the game>nah here's the ginyu's and purple broly and usv golden frieza
>>544869941>Wrath goes to everybodyWhy though?
>>544870042It's some kind of tech issue that will probably be resolved in future saga 4.>>544870716There doesn't need to be a lore explanation on why you can do it just like there isn't one for wby others can use Beast
>all out broly>force his AI to ki cancel and miss stam breaks>pops limit break when low health and still dieskek, what was that supposed to be, I've had tougher pvp fights
Man toppo fell off pretty fast. Guess he's not ooga booga enough for most damage players.
>>544837350https://nitter.net/kuurantto/status/1984367229027434873
HOLYYYY SHIT BRO MEN WITH TITS ARE SO SEXY!
It took a while but I think this character finally clicked with me. I just wish they fixed his bugged s2 so it doesn't randomly do nothing 30% of the time.
>>544879054we love ALL women here, except Aios, she's mean and icky and the boss says never trust her, and NEVER. EVER, EVER EVER EVER, SLEEP WITH HER!
Who here hasn't slept with Aeos?
>>544878056>wherever piccolo goes, he must aura farm as the youngins say
Kay.
>>544880169What do if I already pumped and dumped her?
>>544880651Me, because she's evil and she doesn't want me to exist
>>544881139what a cringe phrase
>>544884214Yes, the youngins are retardedNot more so than the oldies but in new, fascinating ways
>>544881139what is cabba supposed to be? LIke he's clearly Majin vegeta but why does he have the armor on and what's he being shot by?
Aura farming is a better term than anything the shitllennials and the OLDmers have ever come up with btw
>>544884408I think its just composite vegeta>halo from buuhan/kid buu>majinn from fat buu>armor and hair from cell>finger death beam from namek
Bump
>>544871259>There doesn't need to be a lore explanation on why you can do it just like there isn't one for wby others can use BeastBeast has no lore explanation whatsoever, so you can reasonably slap it on other races. Wrath is explicitly tied to Saiyans, just like Super Saiyan forms.
>>544895732It is rather odd to me that Toriyama never explained Beast. We all know he's never one for complicated explinations or story beats, but he's always been one to at least explain what something like a new form is, at least if it isn't self evident like super saiyan 3.
>>544896707If we take Gohan's word of wanting to evolve further without Super Saiyan, then we can probably assume Beast is what happens when you break past "Potential Unleashed", aka literally going beyond your fullest potential.
>>544898064Why was he so against super saiyan anyways? Does he have that much of a particular attachment to that one form he got from sitting on his ass?
>>544898187I dunno, with Toriyama gone, we'll never get the answer to that. I do find one thing peculiar though. Superhero obviously treats Yellow/Orange Piccolo as a parallel to PU/Beast Gohan, but XV2 for some reason just gives Beast to Namekian CACs (which is just the red eyes and aura). Wouldn't it make more sense to give Namekian CACs the orange form as their Beast equivalent?
>>544898670Orange would require a big model change and the xv2 devs are small indie company please understand
so it turns out USV Frieza (of time)'s moves can be used to power up SKoT's moves too and vice/versa, according to YouTube comments
>>544898187The point is that he just doesn't want to ape his father
>>544898998I mean, what with Ultra Instict being a thing it seems that he's largely abandoned super saiyan. Vegeta looked like he was going to continue the mantle but he's going for ego instead. Continuing the super saiyan lineage would be its own niche desu
I think the main confusing thing about Beast is that the name seems to be a complete non-sequitor. Most of the names of forms like Super Saiyan, Potential unleashed/ ultimate, or even orange piccolo do at least imply something about the form directly, but Beast's name seems to be entirely disconnected from what it actually is
>>544899169Well, at least there's Broly, Goten, and Trunks.
>>544895732>>544896707Toriyama explained Beast is related to Gohan's potential. In the manga Whis even calls it a "singular talent". Nothing indicates it's something shareable.
>>544899598Goten and Trunks haven't even gotten 2, and Broly is doing his own thing with super saiyan full power.
>>544899169>ultra fanficDiscarded.
>>544900118I don't like ultra ego either but I don't think it's gonna be dropped by this point. I still think the fundamental premise of framing goku versus vegeta as a GoD versus Angel thing was really stupid, Vegeta never gave a single shit about that
>>544900276I am not going to discuss fanfiction with you, sorry.
I am comming back to Xenoverse because I heard they raised the level cap. What else is new? last time I played was around the time we got DBS Videl and 18.
Hello one, Hello all your suggestions have been gathered and now it is time to vote for which characters represent /dbg/ as a whole 21 spots are open. the ones with the most votes will make the team the ones with outstanding votes become the heart and soul (by being the medals) that help our permanent gold Gogeta Da! Last time around our medal lineup wasGogeta Da (Gold)Gorilla Grips (Gold)Lord and Savior (Silver)YOSHAAAAA (Silver)Gloryhole (Silver)the one gold and 3 silver spots are up for change you can decide who shines the most right here : https://forms.gle/i6WGnG7ZvQrkiqo76
>>544902465im idiot and forgot to attach a picture. Example our roster during one of our cup winning runs!
>>544902176A new, new broly, new moves, new moves for custom brolysgolden frieza became the new time kaiVegeta and his customs got a new z soulFrieza custom got a new z soulbroly and cheelai are dating, then cheelai almost becomes evil but you don't get to fight her 0 points in ki now gives you 10¼ ki bars with a +5 QQ bang
fusions 2
>>544900276>I still think the fundamental premise of framing goku versus vegeta as a GoD versus Angel thing was really stupid, Vegeta never gave a single shit about that Because they literally stole this shit from en español fanfic Youtube videos. The whole thing is braindead, Whis is Beerus' teacher and the one he learned all his God of Destruction training from (including UI), treating GoD and Angel like they're 2 completely different paths was always spic fanfic shit and those idiots actually went ahead with it in their manga
>>544908409No es Fusions 2
>>544703894Oh you'll get pissed if I leave, are you gay?
>>544708553Interesting. Does that mean my hero ( Toriyama) was able to defeat the IRS?
>>544724350Chris Gohansen, this is the one ask him to sit down.
>>544707237Black star dragon ball arc had nudity
How the fuck do you play hit in GS?
Goku ass and babydick doesn't count, boy toucher
>>544800174Just follow the American way. Introduce them to Z, when they like it then introduce them to OG. Otherwise some bitch is gonna totally sperg out after seeing roshi lol.
>>544862621Rildo had good designs.
>>544914005If it didn't count then why was daima so afraid of it?? Talk about a COWARDLY series!
>>544914491Because boy touchers like you belong in jail. Stop wanting his little cock and ass.
>>544915409Toriyama never went to jail and he drew it.You? LOST.
>>544916068You still belong in JAIL. Just wait until you step foot in Texas, boy toucher.
>>544916289good thing I'm Canadian
>>544916289>ad hominem
>>544916387Yeah you WOULD be.>>544916456Nobody cares about your addition homo men.
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