#1092 Please Please Please Remember B.E.S. EditionPrevious: >>544399341Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel is an online multiplayer videogame using the Master Rule Format.>Offline Modhttps://github.com/pixeltris/YgoMaster>Other Modshttps://www.nexusmods.com/yugiohmasterduel/mods/>CurrentSelection Pack: Birth of a Challenger (Handtrap staples)Selection Pack: Ruler's Providence (Mitsurugi, Dragon Ruler, Orcust)Selection Pack: Beat the Boss Rush(B.E.S, Nouvelles, Dragonmaid)Secret Pack: Draconic Courtesy (Dragonmaid, Alt Art House, Alt Art Hospitality)>Current EventsYu-Gi-Oh! x eFootball Collab, ending Nov 6thTryout Duel - Master Duel: Beginnings, can only use cards from the initial release in 2022 (27th until October 31st)>BundlesFootball Stadium Bundle - 1300 Gems (Field, 10 Birth of a Challenger Packs)Orcust Collection Bundle - 2400 Gems (Cosmetics, Mate, Collector's File, 10 Ruler's Providence Packs UR guaranteed)Dragonmaid Collection Bundle - 1600 Gems (Cosmetics, Collector's File, 10 Draconic Courtesy Packs SR guaranteed)>Card Statshttps://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/september-10-2025/card-usage-updateUseful resources for info on Decklists, Events, etc.>YGOPro Deckhttps://ygoprodeck.com/category/master-duel-decks/>Game8 (Outdated info, but has some useful combos)https://game8.co/games/Yu-Gi-Oh-Master-Duel>Road of the Kinghttps://roadoftheking.com/>Appmedia (only in Jap)https://appmedia.jp/master_duel>List of Secret Packshttps://yugipedia.com/wiki/Secret_Pack>Official Master Duel Pagehttps://www.konami.com/yugioh/masterduel/en/>Yu-Gi-Oh! Probability Calculatorhttps://www.deck-probability.com/index.html>Small World Helphttps://small-world.yugioh-api.com/resolve>New Player Guidehttps://files.catbox.moe/95jg6n.jpg>Master Duel Metahttps://www.masterduelmeta.com/
Post Dragonmaids
>no gems for Dragon Meidos>Awful Meta>No sign of a banlist Miserable time to play Master Duel currently.
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>>544697640Yeah, when Maliss was released I created a new "main account", and reached Master 5 on the first day.Most of the time was in fact spent doing gates and whatnot to actually finish the deck, but after the deck was ready I was flying thru the ranks.
>>544697797Anon forgot the quotation marks
>want to check on the game to distract myself from breakup after not touching since 2023>member Master duel meta and their cool data leaks of Mates, accessories, etc>Last update 5 months agoWhat the actual FUCK? Did this game die already?
>>544698929No, the game didn't die... yet.Because it's dying, or very close to, right now.The thing with leaks is that the source got caught.
>>544698929the leaks have stopped because dkayed's leaker got caught but everything else is still functional
>>544698929The owner of that site is a good goy who stopped posting leaks after Konami asked him to. You'll have to go to twitter/discord if you want leaks now.
>>544699142Yeah, I've seen the steam decline.>>544699203But don't they report on announcements of new stuff like mates and accessories too?
>>544699367they report them when they are officially announced. they don't even post datamined stuff
why does MD announce banlists days before they drop? even duel links gives you a two week notice.
>>544698929there are fates worse than yours, my breakup game was(is) destiny 2
Deck doctor, help me
>>544701107Also this. The original quant deck was full of fiendsmith and millennium trash but I lost that somewhere
>>544701107I'm afraid...it's terminal.
>>544701107you know I was gonna build this deck but then I spent like 5k trying to get the Regenesis cards and didn't get a single one so I gave up on it
>>544701257Here you go niggy
Mating Pressing Purrely...
>>544701739Replace called by/1 copy of layer19/1 copy of black layer for one more tract/the other fiendsmith card that generates a token/handtraps you might prefer also works
>>544701739Thanks for the help, faggot.*Smooches*
>>544702223I'll try both versions and feel em out
I know this is crazy but... is it considered mental illness when you start spending money on this game just for the one alt art to complete the binder and can't stop thinking about spending it? Did konami give me a gambling addiction without me realizing it?
>>544697596havent played in a few months, is tenpai dead? how is the meta?
>parallel exceed becomes lvl8 after daruma so I can finally use math cannon and win after 13 turns of grindingtraptrix vs lab is pretty fun
>>544706660Tenpai is more or less dead. It's not great and few people play it. The meta is as bad as ever. People will say it's the worst one in ages but I think they're overstating it.
>>544705928I think that's called OCD, so yes
>>544701462https://files.catbox.moe/huiu8g.webmI feel like something is missing
>>544705928needing alternate art that can't be crafted and will disappear in a month so everyone that miss it will never be able to complete the binder is hella fucking scummy
>>544705928if you realize completing the binder gives you absolutely nothing and you still spend money to do it, then yes. that's mental illness.
>>544708980They never see it coming.
>>544705928Yes. I wasted like 60k gems on raye and didn't get the 3 kagari alt arts i wanted. But i knew that spending money on gems was beyond foolish, as not even paid gems guarantee even a single UR. Building the deck irl would be less of a waste, as i can sell it off whenever.
>>544708725Yeah I have OCD, knowing that I should've never bought the binder, was too tempted to get it cause I thought I didnt need the alt art to complete it and the accessories>>544709036I really hate konami for that. They should just made that optional, like upgrade it in the binder if you happen to have the alt>>544709120I know but I like completing things>>544710608Damn thats really bad luck.
The worst part of the binders is just that they suck. In Pokemon Pocket I can put whatever I want in it and show off that I have 50 different copies of Magmar, or put all my rarest cards, or have some thematic layout with all the original starters+Red, or have all the waifu cards with Lickitung next to them.In MD it's literally just designed to be a badge of shame on your account for buying the bundles then not building the associated deck. They want you to feel bad that you have the Dragonmaid binder without it being gold because everyone who looks at your account nobody will look at your account can see nobody who does will click on your binders that they're missing.I could forgive this if there was an actual reward for 100%ing besides the gold trim. Give me a unique Dragonmaid sleeve or something like that and there's an actual reason for the binders to work like this.
>>544709313Half the time nothing much comes afterwards, but dumping this medicine ball on their untargetable slop is satisfying by itself
>>544714117you know, I'd forgive all of that if they didn't include alt arts in the binder too as separate slots, something that will leave in a month and probably never come backthe Orcust one was whatever, all that shit's gonna be available always, but this? they've just induced FOMO into something that literally doesn't matter, just to prey on somebody's OCD on having an incomplete set that they'll never have completedshit's fucked and it's gonna happen to me purely because I just want the funny dragonmaid coin
ban drillbeam
i hate them so much
>>544714684My uncle works at Konami and he says no
>>544716329You're supposed to not claim the missions that your current deck doesn't easily finish if we're nearing the end of the monthly mission cycle. That way you won't get them again and end up in this position.
fucking ban exciton knight
Man it's fucking sad that mediocre garbage like Ryzeal gets such a busted reputation when it's basically being carried by all cards not called "Ryzeal"
>>544716913This is the end of the month and this is the shit I have been ignoring. You mean there is a way I don't get them again ever. I never do the solo mode one and it still shows up every month
Kashtirafags need to be cast into a ln active volcano
>>544717848Both Ryzeal and Malice are weaker than what came before. There's a reason they had to absolutely gut the SE slop pile before releasing them on MD.
>>544718176You can't have duplicate missions so if you have those missions in your list then you won't get them again. So just don't claim them when you finish them and you won't get them again that month. Surely you'll use Imperm enough over 1 month to complete that mission once.Also the solo mode mission can just be done in one of the tutorials. Either the megalith tutorial which just makes you do one summon then attack, or duel re-something 1 which just has you set a monster and end your turn. Those are the fastest.
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>>544717848*cough*
>>544718821>>544718482Peak SEFS would have shat over midzeal. They could have 5 pops and a negate and it still won't stop them
>>544719090now do that with only snake-eye card
Blue-eyes is legitimately better than Ryzeal
>>544719090We never even saw whatever the peak would've been because every time they added anything to buff it they also gave it limits/semis to nerf it. Imagine if you were actually allowed triple WANTED, triple Ash, triple Bonfire, etc on top of Fiendsmith or Millennium or whatever actually makes the cut.
>>544719223What's even your point? Even fucking Tear isn't that strong with only Tear cards.
>>544719223why? I don't start with only 1 card
>>544717848>man, this deck would be bad if it didn't play the other 25 cardsshocking
Purrely Horny Memory
I'm out of UR CPI don't have a third Droplet, I don't have Foolish yet, and I haven't gotten the Blackwing deck yet for the Blackwing that can be thrown into any deck that mills(I likely will not add it until I get Foolish anyways)are there any SRs that could improve this before I take it to the ladder?check out my shiny cards, I also feel like braggingI always seem to hit the jackpot with generic cardsin this pic there are a shiny HFD, a royal xyz Slayer target, a shiny ghost girl, and while less generic my royal Heavy Poly can still be used in any deck that needs an ED monster to fuse into somethingsuch as Rextremende in Fiendsmith
>>544719352>>544719361>it's basically being carried by all cards not called "Snake-Eye"
do not
>>544718693I see. I'm doing the Megalith one now no reason to leave 40 unclaimed. Thanks!
>>544717848>>544719223If your deck has to be 40 in archetype cards + a full in archetype ed then only anime decks would even be playable.
>>544719543>shitzeal gets compred to maliss which is competent enough on its own with just maliss names>shitzeal has to whore itself to mitsu
>>544719880nyehehe
>>544720078kek based CHADbaz. purest deck out there
>>544720078Branded is a slop pile made up of several different archetypes friend.
>>544719880heroGODs stay winning.
>>544720178lore connections = not slop
>>544717974Lab pro on the left
>>544719665I completely forgot about my shiny Talents too
>>544720262>Broly.gif
>>544719915>competent enough on its own with just maliss namesyou think maliss would be comptent without splash mage, lizardose, apollousa, abaoqu, gryphon, etc?
>>544719880NTA but aren't all popular variants of SE just a pile deck? "Pure" SE just wants to be an awful control deck but people saw how easy it was to spam bodies and took it from there.
>>544719915Every maliss deck on the face of the earth plays plays @ignister and code talker cards
>>544720757That's because they limited all the good Snake Eye starters so you had to fill your deck with something, and as a link deck that means you can use anything that spams bodies to the board without locks.
>>544719762Keep Purrely Waiting...
>>544720986what
>>544720986 El Shaddoll MeshaflareLevel 10 EARTH Machine Fusion Effect Monster2800 ATK / 1000 DEFMaterials: 1 "Shaddoll" monster + 1 DARK monster + 1 EARTH monsterMust be Fusion Summoned.(1) This card is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and the activated effects of your opponent's monsters with a lower original Level/Rank than this card.(2) Once per turn: You can pay 800 LP; add 1 "Shaddoll" card or 1 "Void" Spell/Trap from your Deck to your hand.(3) If this card is sent to the GY: You can Special Summon 1 "Shaddoll" monster from your GY.
>>544720986El Shaddoll Meshaflare?
>>544721212>add 1 "Shaddoll" card or 1 "Void" Spell/Trap from your Deck to your hand.I'm sorry what? Infernoid spells? I get that it's from the same lore but I'm not seeing the synergy here
>>544721212but where's the floodgate
>>544720986>>544721212>"Void"Lancea is becoming more important than Ash.
>>544720948I'm talking about even on release in MD. Before it was a pile deck, it was just an extra deck good stuff deck to facilitate generic endboards + flamberge. SE technically isn't even a link deck because there isn't a link snake eyes card
>>544721443they added new void s/t that supports shaddoll
>>544721443>>544721475Void ReleaseNormal SpellYou can only use the (1) and (2) effects of cards with this card's name once per turn.(1) Reveal 1 "Shaddoll" card in your hand; add 2 "Shaddoll" cards with different card types (Monster/Spell/Trap) from the revealed card, and with different names from each other, then discard 1 card.(2) You can banish this card from your GY; add 1 "Infernoid" monster from your Deck/GY to your hand.
>>544720262How the gimmick god fucked up his combo with the field spell is beyondddddddddddd me.
>>544721564>isn't even a link deckI should specify it wasn't intended. Obviously people decided to make it a link deck
>>544721212Shaddoll fusion gets you a lot of value now, but shaddoll didn't need an apoqliphort killer lmao. As for searching void spells, do they even have any synergy?
>>544721564Well yeah, the deck that exists to do nothing other than spam bodies to the board DOES in fact get used to use those bodies as material for useful things. That's just sort of how the game is designed.
>>544721680>gimmick god
>>544721716Every deck is a link deck unless it specifically locks you out of them.
>>544721716It was 100% intended that you are able to link off Flamberge Dragon to trigger his effect to summon more bodies to summon more extra deck monsters.
>>544721801>Hero homo thinks he's in a superior position in any way
>>544721672ah that makes more sense, making sure it covers the new card's details>still has an Infernoid clause in its banish effectdoes Shaddoll and Inferoid have any synergy with each other? it's not like you can reasonably make the new card without running Shaddoll cards but it feels like they're trying to tie them together with this
Totshaddoll EglistaLevel 7 EARTH Rock Flip Effect MonsterYou can only use 1 among the (1) or (2) effect of cards with this card's name per turn, and only once that turn.(1) FLIP: You can target 1 non-Rock "Shaddoll" monster in your GY; apply its effect that activates when it is flipped face-up.(2) If this card is sent to the GY: You can Fusion Summon 1 "Shaddoll" Fusion Monster by banishing its materials from your hand, field and/or GY. You cannot Special Summon from the Extra Deck the turn you activate this effect, except "Shaddoll" monsters.
>>544721810It's ok to admit you're wrong.
>>544722127I wish RDA had some way to extend that didn't instantly die to a single negate
>>544722127reminder that carly won the jackb owl and everything post dark signers is not canon
>>544721936No, its just for lore reasons.
>>544722240They just need like....2 or 3 modern day retrain resonators, and a busted level 7 synchro. Their normal end board can still compete with nigger boards of today IFFFF they can get to it.
>>544721995this is a gimmick puppet, what the hell>ToTshaddolllol
>>544722354yeah I agree, a lot of their big endboard pieces are still really strong, they just...can't get there on a good daysome sort of targeting protection might go a long way, maybe a searchable field spell?
>>544721732You just described white forest lol. It's just weird because you can see with the 1st wave of sinful spoil + Snake Eyes S/T, Diabellstar is the focus and the snake eye card are there to be the intended costs for her summon effect especially on the opponent's turn. Somewhere along the way they just said fuck it though>>544721919Or just a way to inject recursion into the deck. They just couldn't deiced what they wanted the deck to do so the players made the choice for them.
Does it count as a lose if I alt+f4 when I lose the coin toss? I've seen lots of people doing it
>>544723102The deck had great recursion. That was a big part of its strength. And you can use that recursion to summon monsters from your extra deck that do things instead of sitting on ones that do nothing. I promise you, Konami did not just forget that link monsters exist while designing these cards.
>>544722494>Not immediately recognizing the main character of duel terminal
>>544721995Wait, that's a Tearlament card.
>>544721212> 1 "void"infernoid support?
>>544723267Yeah I know it has great recursion. I was just complaining that the deck that spams bodies technically only has a main deck boss monster. It's only called a link deck because there's nothing else to do with the actual cards outside of generic end board pieces. FS and Mitsurugi can do almost anything under the sun for example, but those are Link/Fusion and ritual cards first. It really just a semantic argument
>>544721995>summons winda without using a tear name when milledcan we kill kitkallos yet
>>544724568Snake Eyes is a link deck. Snake Eyes is not a link archetype.
>>544724568>technically only has a main deck boss monsterThese exist.
>>544724869a level 12 synchro dragon, you say? it seems Centur-Ion isn't out of it yet
>>544724869if vengeance dragon is flipped down/up after using the effect can it use it again next turn? what about a temp banish?
>>544724810Elaborate because a good number of decks can be a link deck without the proper locks>>544724869I was talking about on release on MD but no one would call SE a fusion /synchro deck now
>>544725084Yes. Its the same wording as Mirrorjade.
>>544725358no it isn't, mirrorjade is a soft once
>>544725308Snake Eyes the deck. The deck that people play. The deck people are discussing when they talk about the Snake Eyes deck. That deck is a link deck. Because it exists to summon link monsters.
>>544725010>targets>disables then pops a monsterthis is worse than supernova lil bro, not that you're summoning anything but blazar and sifr
>>544725467It's the same principal. The effect says you can use it once per turn on a soft once per turn. If you flip it down then up you can use that effect again in that turn because the card forgot you used that effect this turn while flipped down. That effect says you cannot use it next turn. But it forgets that that effect of that card was used this turn if you flip it down then up.All the game remembers after the flip is that you used the effect of "Snake-Eyes Vengeance Dragon", not of that specific instance of the card. And the effect doesn't say anything like "You cannot use this effect of "Snake Eyes Vengeance Dragon" next turn".
>>544725084In order: yes, no.
>>544725596Vengeance has its uses and gets used in Centurion. Sometimes an immediate spot removal is better than a conditional mass-removal. If you're just going straight for Blazar every time and nothing else then you're playing the deck poorly and should learn your matchups better.
>>544725529Ah, now we're just circling back to what I was talking about here >>544720757 which is that Snake Eyes "The Deck" is just a good stuff deck (later turned into a pile deck). The archetype by itself does not have a proper identity so when some other anon was jokingly saying poplar / SE was nothing without the stuff that gets crammed in, they're kind of right.
>>544726329No. Snake Eyes the deck is a link deck. You're just being obtuse about it because it's not how you don't like that none of their cards mention links.
>>544725010it's a generic crimson target that does something unlike sigma and brave masurawomore useful for other decks I'd say
>>544726465>you don't like that none of their cards mention linksOr has any named links at all, but yeah. That's what I've been saying from the beginning.
>>544726715crimson dragon can't summon either of those, wtf are you talking about
>>544726715>more useful for other decks I'd sayObviously. Its intended to be played in White Forest.
>>544726902you target them to summon something with crimson you nitwit
>>544727013legatia's already a generic crimson target that does something, he's not the first
>>544726871People actually already realized that there are no "Snake Eyes" link monsters.
>>544727224does something on the opponent's turn, rather
>lose coinflip 4 duels in a row>finally win>maxx chink ash blossom lancea extender foolish target>also opponent has maxx chink as well lolyou vill NOT destroy 5 cards you vill NOT collect your 40 gemsyou VILL be happy
>>544727515>surrender and queue again>actually win coinflip again>literal same exact hand except maxx chink is a droll and lancea is a called by>queue again>lose coinflip, open 3 starters no handtrapsFUCK OFFfucking piece of shit game
>>544727252It doesn't take a genius to figure that out lmao. At a broader level it was just a complaint that the deck's identity is defined by the generic good stuff it enables.
>>544727716There isn't a single link monster in the entire Sinful Spoils lore.
>>544727972Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>544727972Is the Sinful spoils lore the first one this happened to in a while? All the mechanics usually pop up somewhere
>>544728202Sinful spoils seems like it was rushed for whatever reason. Other than people hating snake eyes, I don't think it was especially unpopular.
>>544728601Sadly, Snake Eyes was 95% of Sinful Spoils as far as what you'd actually see people play.
>>544728747Sure, but that still seems like an odd reason to end it so fast. It isn't like Visas which got aborted early before it actually killed the game with turnskip bullshit.
>>544729110I'd love for them to show off his deck some day. Konami 100% made it and its absolutely Tear/Kash powerlevel.
New ban list. Apo is dead. Called by to 1
APO IS BANNEDAPO IS BANNED APO IS BANNED APO IS BANNED
>labtranny unhits>called by hit for no reasondogshit banlist
>>544729653> One less called by> Roach is still at 2Hmmm
>>544729608>>544729621you people are kidding right?>>544729653NO FUCKING WAY. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. AM I FUCKING DREAMING
is there something that could be released that can abuse anti spell fragrance? and I do like the hits but what the fuck, how is maxx c allowed at 2
>>544729894isn't there that anubis engine for continuous traps
>>544729653damn I was getting a lot of use out of anti-spell fragrance in Dinomorphia and Exodiaoh well, I'll accept the sacrifice if it kills Apo along with it
>appo MURDERED>called by hit>droll on the chopping block>anti-spell BTFOtenpaiSS stocks soaring.
they are also compensating the whales
>>544729894The stun decks just got the last morganite cards I guess. Anti spell could help protect their walking floodgates
>>544730019I don't care I have anti spell fragrance at home
>>544729894You've got it backwards anon. There's something coming that's especially weak to it.
>>544730175droll too. hey if raye's deck is getting floodgates banned then i love raye
>>544729653Just because maliss got dormouse and wonderland limited doesn't mean ryzeal needed the same hits, it literally always had 1 (3) less 1-card starters>chessy cat to 1Ahh i get it now, it's just ryzeal's humiliation ritual. Should have limited white binder, red ransom and hearts of crypter as well, hell, put decode talker, firewall dragon, wizard@ignister and accode talker also to 1.>droll and called to 1Based, now there's less answers to maxx c and all the mulcharmies.At least i'm getting 45 CP back with that ouroboros ban, plus 120 from the ryzeals and called.
>-1 called by>-1 droll>roach still at 2so basically, maxx c is back to 3 and droll is effectively unhit. the other hits are good but these 3 were absolutely egregious
md......saved?
>>544730373we are in for the long haul with malpiss. they will keep hitting it every list until they finally get the win rate down
>>544730373>Should have limited white binder, red ransom and hearts of crypter as wellthey are already played at 1
>>544730585Yeah, +1 Maxx C is what will save the game
chessy should be fucking banned not put at 1
They are cleaning house at Konami, holy shit. These past few months have been crazy.
>>544729653called by should be at 3 desu
>>544729653>maxx c now even more likely to resolveONENOTHING WRONG WITH METWO
>went back and forth on whether I should just craft Apo for a bunch of decks>it's now entirely bannedthanks Konami, I'll throw my points elsewhere now
>>544730048does this mean you can just trade it for any other alt art released prior to the ban?
>>544731395yeah
>>544729653>apo bannednice>called by 1fuck you
3 ash, 1 called by, 1 crossoutyou're fineeeee
>>544731145You would have got a full refund anon
Can Azurune send itself to the GY to destroy inherent summons? For some reason it never triggers for me.
>>544729653>called by to 1The fuck is this?
>>544730048>app version 2.6.0>we're in 2.4.1, released earlier this month>2.3 was in maylol, it's gonna be like a year before you can trade it in
>>544730373I would much rather every Ryzeal name get hit than 7th Tachyon. That card is so good for xyz shitdecks.
>>544729653>ApollousaNope too late.The game's even more worse than when I last quit.
So Appo will be replaced with Knightmare Gryphon on maliss decks.Ryzeal is easier to stop with those limiteds
HAHAHAHAHA RYZEAL WAS ALREADY EASY TO BEAT
>>544729653personally I'm just glad they killed the Mjollnir lock, shit was ass no matter how you framed it
>>544731624You can ONLY use summon negates on inherent summons because otherwise you'd either be trying to activate it mid-chain resolution or after the summon has resolved. The only exceptions are cards like I:P which cause a summon to happen AFTER the effect resolves, and the IP would need to be chain link 1 for the same reason as already mentioned.
>>544732178Never. Fucking never. Fuck birds.
>>544732313No, you'll replace apo with another Cyberse in Maliss. Splash mage will be even more important now in combos.
>>544732510Agreed.
So, Nibiru at 3 to stop Maliss instead of Lancea?
>>544732678Nib doesn't do shit to Mitsurugi, but is way more versatile than Lancea so go for it.
>>544729653>my ryzeal voiceless voice deck got killed off before i could even assemble itDamn. This means they're gonna tax people super hard with the onomat cards, aren't they? Dodododo warrior (3-of), gagagaga girl, utopic future, onomatokage and goblindbergh UR, even though you already need 2-3 onomatopaira, the other F0 cards and seventh tachyon.
>>544729653>Apollousa Imperm of the Goddess Heh?! Nani? (won't change anything)>Ouroboros + Iwonthecoinflipgg banned finally>Mjollnir cool>Droll + Called byI suppose it's for what's coming next but fuck you TCGtroons.>Ryzeal hitsPerfect.>Cheesyk. Allure is ass now unless you play it with another dark engine.>furnitures unhittrash cards who cares?
Mitsu, orcust, and blue-eyes best decks?
>droll hitWhite Forest GODS are feeling good.
>>544729653WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6PRSF9MBs
>>544732542nope, maliss does abao+gryphon lock without apo.
READ EM AND WEEP BITCH
>>544733410no it doesn't you fuck, this is not evil twin.
>>544733428It was funny how many people actually thought the alt art would stop them even though this solution was obvious enough for a bunch of people to come up with it on their own.
>>544733582>this solution was obviousI honestly didn't think the pajeets who code MD were capable of adding an exchange system. But I guess that's the reason it isn't being added until next year at the earliest.
>>544732542When apollousa got banned in paper Maliss switched to gryphon locking people instead. I doubt it'll be any different in MD considering the line is even easier here.
>>544733582do you think whales who whaled on apo alt don't whale for other alts?
>>544733680They can add shit, they just don't. They even added shit like loaner cards for one(1) tryout duel then never used that system ever again. The game functions and runs very well, I don't know why you'd act like it's poorly coded.
>>544733742>paperall you needed to say.
>>544733479yes it does, and it will do so until they inevitably ban gryphon.
>maliss and ryzeal will easily still be the best decks even with these hits>droll semi limit when mitsurugi is everywhere and droll is the best handtrap against it>called by limit in a format with maxx You're genuinely retarded if you think this is a good banlist.
>>544733963yeah it's sloppy but at least something is changing
>>544732313Yeah, probably just gonna cut Apo and lizard for Gryphon+Bao-qu. The real big loss is chessy cat to 1. Consistency will suffer.
>>544733963I agree that the droll hit is stupid and now Maliss will be on top again, but Callled By should just be banned to begin with same with Crossout.
>>544734068after playing through dice rally where that was exactly the case, I can say now with certainty that I would prefer if that did not happen
>>544733742OCG Maliss does not run Gryphon which is what MD lists always end up drifting towards.Even looking at current TCG lists nobody is playing Gryphon. I believe you that they did in the past, but clearly they decided it wasn't optimal.
>>544734068called by is a necessity until they ban trash like maxx shit and faggot shifter
>>544734163Sacky shit like Gryphon lock is a lot stronger in bo1.
>>544734135>>544734180I want my handtraps to actually go through thanks
>>544733742appo being banned means maliss (and other deck) finally have to actually worry about nibiru instead of not caring about.nib will finally be good again.
>>544733963I will take any hits to the top decks and to degenerate cards even if those cards currently are good vs the meta(which also means I have to face them vs me more often).
FINALLY I can play Nib at (3)
>>544734163the TroonCG banned her. Anyway it's weaker to Bystials for example so it's not the worst. and you know it will get banned anyway
>>544734180Shifter is the hero we need.
>>544734163you are seeing a low gryphon percentage in the OCG because apo was legal until recently. now they do run it.nobody plays gryphon in TCG currently because it was recently banned (and it was banned because literally every maliss list was running it).
>>544734310>herhim* knightmare gryphon
>>544734163Yeah, they decided it wasn't optimal shortly after it was limited to zero due to a 99% playrate.
>>544734217It's an ED card in a deck with flex slots. If it actually was optimal then you could summon it in game 1 to secure the win then summon something else in games 2-3 if you fear the side deck.Also OCG tournament standards are Bo1 outside of topcut.
Maliss got fucked.
>>544734472>link decoder and splash mage still legalthey're fine, just weaker to nib
BrandedLORDs. Bust out the locks, called by is gone.
>>544734472there were already M1 lists this month that ran 1 cat, they didn't do shit to this deck.
>>544734318If that were the cause then you'd see Apo in those lists, and it's also just wrong because Apo was banned in the OCG 4 months ago and still nobody is playing Gryphon there.I forgot Gryphon was banned in the TCG though, but again MD always trends towards OCG deckbuilding standards.
>>544734593Yeah. I pray the next pack has something big in it because the meta is shit and konami has no serious intention of fixing it through the banlists.
>>544734657Next pack will be Odion, filler, and either Live Twin or White Forest.
>>544733963>maliss and ryzeal will easily still be the best decks even with these hitswait just like in paper? No shit >Droll for Mitsu Droll kills almost every deck. They can't ban it in MD but they can't let it at 3 either
>>544734775>Droll kills almost every decklmao. what shit decks are you playing bro?
>down to 6 1-card starter>ignister adding another 3 cards for a 2-card starter>will always have to play into nibiru nowIts starting to be very grim for maliss.
>>544734163Gonna be a little difficult to play a card that's banned
it's not enough
What's our cope play fellow Maliss CHAD ? Allure at 3 ? Then ?
>>544735004mining probably
>>544735004allure without targets is assgive up on consistency and just add more handtraps including a couple bystials
>>544734860https://www.masterduelmeta.com/top-decks/master-i/october-2025/maliss/riky/VG43ohttps://www.masterduelmeta.com/top-decks/master-i/october-2025/maliss/schr%C3%B6dinger's-kitten/cjksb2 master 1 lists posted just yesterday. 1 cat. stop downplaying your deck malisstard.
>dead general >though you retards were desperate enough to roleplay a new banlist dropping>check HIS site, it's real
>>544729653>Called By to 1FUCK YOU KONAMI!!!!
>>544734835What is YOUR deck bro?
>>544735226blue CHADeyes
is this a "I'm demoting myself" deck? ran by like 8 of them today
>>544729653>I will get 210UR points from thisTime to finish my pet decks.>>544735418>Playing blue-eyes primite dragon.
>>544735204If you get maxx c'd do beryl set lode and search drillbeam, maiden place true light and set wishes, wishes discard drillbeam search veiler and majesty, reset drillbeam and beryl send blue eyes to grave.
>>544735609it's just a bot doing dailies
>>544735121We’re not schizophrenic enough to imagine a new banlist and have a discussion on it… yet
>>544735418but it dies to droll unless your hand is asian
What the fuck bros how does Maliss beat Nibiru without Apollousa?
>>5447359752 Maliss into Gossip Shadow obviously.
>>544735885you just need to make the first search count it's not so bad
>>544735975now you have to do this cool thing called "playing around it" where you play the game without giving the opponent a perfect opportunity to handtrap you, instead of having total immunity to handtraps after 4 summons
>>544730373I know you list all those Ed monsters as sarcasm, but lost people figured out it's better to play max malice names to do 2 card combos rather than play garbages like cynet mining
Deadnamer was never good.
>>544735616>Time to finish my pet decks.Not when the white forest/azamina support is coming next pack
>>544736596That deck never did anything, its just alright. About as strong as Orcust.
>>544735095i played 2 chessy until now and still started to brick a lot more than in the past. Cant imagine with one less Chessy now.And since people are faggot, they'll keep calling for more Maliss nerf. Disgusting.
>>544736795the only faggot is you, malpisser
>>544736795>>544736851You're both faggots.
>>544735975https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2025-07-metagame-report-1-2/here's one way, but I don't think you'l have to worry about nib everywhere since mitsu ryzeal is going to be the best deck.
>>544736931with the ryzeal hits orcust mitsu will be the best deck
>>544737015not if eclipse twins comes in the next pack.
MD hit Chessy, hit called by, hit droll but not Lancea? really nigga?A fucking card that instant win against the now even more weaker, low celling and less consistent Maliss, they hit one of the out for Lancea but the Lancea itself still walk free untouched?Fuck you, imma playing fossil Dyna turbo after this banlist
>>544729974a continuous trap that can special summon. sudden thunder swamp
>>544735004Taketomborg to link summon Cherubini to then dump named Maliss card to GY, then you normal summon anything, link summon Lizardose to banish Maliss in your GY
>>544738210Low iq faggot can't combo
compulsive roll paid off
>>544738979FUCKYOUFUCKYOU
>maliss lost their only out to nib>ryzeal still got cross and 6 copy of tachyon>which also protect the mitsurugi variant>the only other effective handtrap against them, droll, got hitI can't believe it, but I guess I'm going to main fucking Retaliating "C" now
>>544738979
>>544739118nah. just replace the copies of called by and droll with purulia
oh, they warn us now
>beat the boss rush>68 days leftisn't it supposed to be 45 days-ish
>>544739515fair enoughbut it's a brick going first tho
>>544729608>>544729621>>544729653>>544732325BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDTHE WHORE IS DEADTHE WHORE IS DEADTHE WHORE IS DEADTHE WHORE IS DEAD
>surely listening to reddit/twitter will save this dying game
They limited droll and called by because they want to see how hard they have to hit Maxx c and Mitsurugi next.
>>544741914Cope. The roach isn't going anywhere.
>>544729730Nobody plays 6 furnitures you mongoloid.
>>544741953Maxx C, Mitsurugi prayer to 1 and Mitsurugi Ritual to 2 screenshot this.
>>544741968they will now
>>544732313Yeah, I was already trying out Gryphon instead of Apo this week 'just in case' and it works pretty well, restriction basically doesn't exist since your whole board is linked. Like other anon said though, I'm sad about Cheesy to 1, since for some reason she shows up in my hand 8 out of 10 matches no matter how many copies I use, so I prefer to have 2. With droll and Called by that's 3 free spaces in main deck total, I think I will either run more bystials or bystials + cynet
>>544742332No they fucking won’t. It’s straight up neg and you don’t need 6.
>orcust lost two cards that dealt with fuwa and roachdeck is already dead
>>544742414It doesn't even have a good backup plan if you don't draw an out.
>>544742524that's literally what he just said
>>544742614No it isn't.
I still suspect they have some sort of algorithm thing that decides a part of the banlist purely through statistics.Droll to 2 is a bit out of left field, and they usually doesn't hit card that's effective against current meta because they need to phase them out soon.Same with random ass Solemn Judgment hit a while back.Though if that's the case, I don't know why the fuck both roach and ash survived this long.
>Banning Overratedousa>Limiting chessy cat when deck is already an inconsistent mess>nuking Ryzeal in every possible way>called by to fucking 1 with maxx C legal and also Lancea a counter to it at 3Behead all TCG niggers. Behead all those fagots.Droll and anti spell hit is nice but too bad it’s just to shill Sky striker next pack.Two conclusions here: never spend on alt arts and every time you pull for a new deck you will get 5 cards refunded. It’s crazy how many decks I can work on now with those bans.
>>544742524>go galatea and get crown if fuwa>just pass if it's maxx cat least it was cheap so i didn't get fucked over hard
>>544742732>Droll to 2 is a bit out of left field, and they usually doesn't hit card that's effective against current meta because they need to phase them out soon.Knowing Komoney I think it's just for Mitsubishi while it's in the shop and Sky Striker or White Forest for the next pack. TCGtroons clearly had influence on this list with all their "Konami listened" comments.
>>544746805I mean, if they gonna prehit shit like that, they'd hit lancea before maliss hit the floorbut they didn't
>"apollousa can't be banned"AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
hmmm yes somehow every chink has 2 interruptions and still a starter, totally fucking normal!!
>>544747128it was banned because the japanese players have been crying about it too btw. they don't care about maxx c so it will never be banned
oh yes chingchongchang with 60 cards in his deck just so happens to start branded fusion as well as ash and maxx c!!!
>>544746893Full power Maliss + Apo + 2 Gold Sarc can play through every HT turn 1, it was necessary to keep it at 3 in a format where no one play breakers or Ogre, especially with the WCQ and DC on the way to not drop below 10k monthly on Steam
>>544748082Full power Mitsurugi Ryzeal can play through every HT turn 1, it is necessary to keep Droll at 3 in a format where no one play breakers or Ogre, especially to not drop below 10k monthly on Steam
>>544748192Based. Don’t let the Josh subscribers win.
>>544748082I just played a FS Mitsu, tried but couldnt stop that faggot, disgusting piece of shit cards but people glaze on it.
>>544748624They are le fair what are you saying !!!! It’s good meta!!! And fair!!! Josh said so!!
>gishki nekromirror is actually a super ritualizationhuh>their medallion isn't OPT>it's UR>not in secret packwhyyyy
>>544748192purulia is at 3
>>544748923fuwalos AND meowls is at 3
>Ouroboros got stomped in all formats in just 2 monthslol fucking good riddance
>>544749002those didn't do shit to malpiss because of droll. midzeal shitsurugi would give you like 6 cards from purulia
>>544749556Purulia is shit into most everything else. Charmies were a mistake, especially in a best of 1. Build restriction cringe.
>>544748192>Full powerBagooska bros...The two decks are not comparable the joke doesn't work, unless you think White Binder and Apo are the same as Murakumo and Detonator or both field spells are the same. You have to play cards that can be bricks depending on your starting hand in Mitsu-Ryzeal when everything is a starter and an extender in full power Maliss except maybe GWC.>>544748703Never said that, the deck needs to be hit and will be in the future, pure Ryzeal is pretty much dead.
>>544749715Anon I know you didn’t say that, it was sarcasm. Making fun of TCG troons.
so we just go into little knight to (somewhat) counter nib?
>>544750441You mean MalPISS Players?Because us Mitsurugi CHADS, don't care about Nib.
>>544750737only if you have cross on fieldotherwise you guys always ejaculated prematurely and tribute your own shit forgetting they're OPT
>>544750737>mitsurugi>chadLmao the things we read on this board.
The best part about building meta decks is the partial refund you get some months later.
>>544752810True. I couldn't give less of a shit about Mitsu and I'm gonna be rich in 2 months
I miss Apollousa
>>544701739Is the Fiendsmith version of this better than the older Superheavy Samurai build of Super Quant? I remember it being able to put out Barrone and Borreload before putting down King Magnus but the synchros could still be stopped before the Super Quant combo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dXQsovQNU>Just saw the latest new TELLARKNIGHT gameplayYeah, I think I'm in love. My 7th sens is burning, I can feel it, my COSMOS...
>>544754102>Is the Fiendsmith version of this better than the older Superheavy Samurai build of Super Quant?yes for reasonsfiendsmith just like superheavy acts as negate/handtrap bait and its also able to play against droll and can discard a "dead" super quant from hand if neededalso fiendsmith alone sets up genghis+rextrem during opponent turn with immunity to battle destruction+half battle damage taken via kyrie (so you have good chances of survivng a turn) and thats without doing your quant plays
i wonder if konami only banned mjollnir because quantal managed to get the lock off once or twice on the official stream during the 3v3 challenger cupcause they didn't touch it after that guy got 2nd with it during the duelist cup, and basically no one was playing it afterwards
Appo did nothing wrong. Blame combo decks, youtubers and metafags
the full turn archetype lock looool
I don't think Maliss will be any weaker
I don't remember the last time I summoned Apollo USAI think I'll miss 2 Called By though
I'm so glad that the low iqs who were repeating this dogshit nonsense argument "uhh alt art ban would be against japanese gacha laws achsually" that some one retard pulled out of his ass got btfo'd and can eat shit lol
>coming back
>>544756628k9 is closer than you think probably we will get one or two of DB archetype for dec DC
Never got to play the deck since I don't want to craft seventh heaven tachyon whatever but I'm glad I kept this extra copy
>>544754710Figured that'd be the case. Shame because at least the SHS engine fit with the flavor of Super Quants far better than FS does. Also I just finished making Mitsurugi FS and going to play FS Quants would basically be playing the same deck but weaker. Though I guess that wouldn't be the first time, since I rolled for the entire Crystron package just to play Crystron Earth Machine
Ok, now moon at 0
>>544729653>Chessy to 1 when most people play it at oneok?
>Only changes to my Orcust deck is that I take out apoFine banlist with me
I'll dust a Called By for my first CrossoutI'll dust Appo for my first Foolish Burial>>544759887I would rather they do Requiem to 0 and I play Fiendsmithwhy hit unrelated cards just because they can bridge to FS when you believe FS to be the problem?
>>544761250Moon is a fiendsmith though, she may as well not have an effect.
>>544759839Cryston K9 is at least a pretty good deck until the new VS cards release.
>>544761394the completely missed the point award goes to you, anoncongratulations
>>544757535Apo ban only hits Link decks. Anyone else will just do Caesar and Photon. Nothing fucking changes, she dies for nothing.
>>544761934Fiendsmith is only a problem in slop piles. Decks that can play it without moon need the help.
>Win cointoss against Chinese opp>Go first, summon Cook>Activate Final Countdown>Pass>Shotgun Maxx C>Opp is playing Raidraptor>Draw my entire deck from Maxx C and win with ExodiaIt's that simple.
>>544762594You would have won regardless. RR can't out cook unless he's running a kaiju.
>buffing the roach filthfuck you too konami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoWsTOf81zY/ourguy/ is up
>>544763954offf yourself joshua
>>544763954The only guy that is ours is HIM
>>544764348>>544764490seethe cope dilate
>7 (seven) DAYS UNTIL BAN LIST IS ACTIVEWhat do I do in this time?Play MD?Don't be ridiculous!
>>544765212Stack the dailies. That way you will only have to play twice
Now that I can't use Apollousa to keep my opponent from playing what free win deck should I play?
>>544762145you realize that there are plenty of generic ED light fiends, right?ranks 3 and 4 have a generic light fiend, with rank 4 being Exciton Knight5 and 10 for synchro(which isn't as good, but 10 at least is common in synchro decks)fusion just has Magnum the Reliever which is any ED monster + a monster in your handMoon is just the MOST generic and the only generic link 2 light fiendand at some point, Konami will make others since designing cards around one archetype being too easy to get to is unreasonable
>>544765818stun
>>544765818Cook
>>544765948>>544762145btw, Ryzeal also used FS at one point and they can't use Moon at allthe slop you dread will not go away just because it is harder to get to
>>544766821Ryzeal is exactly who I was thinking of when I said needed help.
>>544766942and they never needed Moon to get that help because all main deck FS cards are starters anywaysacting as if other decks are any different just isn't truebanning Moon is just a consistency hit
>>544758674The fact that they had to give this additional compensation for the alt art proves that it was the thing keeping Apo legal however
How do you keep Fiendslop from infinitely recycling?
People have been playing around Nib in Maliss without Apo in the TCG since it came out and in the TCG people actually play Nib for real constantly unlike in MD/OCG where it rarely sees consistent main deck play. Losing Apo does nothing to Maliss in that sense, you can still play around it, it's just that you don't straight up negate it (though there are still early Allied Code lines that can in theory do it).
This is my first banlist.Should I wait to dismantle apo or can I dismantle it now? I heard something about extra dust or something
>>544768052You need to wait for the banlist to go in effect. The game displays a dismantling bonus when you are about to dismantle the card if the bonus is active.
>>544768036In a way sometimes Apo can make it easier to Nib Maliss in MD because you can hold Imperm Nib and they will get blown out, whereas if they combo the way people do in TCG it's so much more convoluted to Nib them
>>544768186Thank you for the information
Banning generic boss monsters confuses the fuck outta me. It would be nice if Konami goes back and looks at the underpowered archetypes and feed them some good stuff but they'll just keep making new archetypes instead. So pretty much most of my decks went from "being sorta usable" to garbage trash and oh well guess I gotta pick up a new deck and hope to god in the future maybe Konami can fucking PUT MISC BACK AT 3 YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES
>>544768756>spoiler He is already at 3 no?
>>544769067Sorry maybe I'm in the wrong general. I built my dinos for TCG because of Master Duel only for>Misc at 1>fuck you no savage>fuck you no baronneI'll just spin to the evolzar line but now I feel not even playable in this meta at all.
>>544768052Wait for banlist to be active first. I'm personally keeping mine in case it gets unbanned later.
>>544769162The thing with Dinos in the TCG is that it was meta so Misc went to 1, then they put it back to 3 at one point and it became meta again. That it got locked back to 1. KoA is afraid.I think Jurrac Dino isn't that bad though.
>>544769424I'll try taking a look at their recipe. I'm not a big fan of how jurrac cards look. I just wanted to UNGA BUNGA with UCT with some protection but now I don't have much protection with UCT especially without Misc (even with misc because they can resolve this on battle phase). RELEASE MISC AHHHHH I can't believe genesys came out and they fucking put misc at fucking 75.
>>544769225>unbanned later.
>>544769225>Apo unbanned huuuuh, at least you won't have to recraft her for a no banlist event good call
>>544769225I hope it never gets unbanned, fuck that shit. But I'd keep it myself if it was the one with the alternative artwork
>>544767871banish lacrima fusion and the link 2
Is Labs still okay to play in the meta?
>they actually banned ApoFuck this clown game lol. Shit is fucking dead
>they banned the card that is banned in every single format, how could that ever happen
>>544771243maxx c
>>544771307Apo is banned in the OCG
>>544771243Spright Elf
>>544741968I don't careevery labtranny card to 0
>>544771535Elf is a fair card albeit
If we are talking about cards that add nothing but bullshit to the game ban sheep.
>>544771243i hope they do thatbut the garbage retards at tcg decided to ban bahamut over toad and killed my deck
Just don't play yugioh, none of your decks get smacked. Can't get your deck killed if you have no deck.
