>News4th Card Set Skybound Dragons & Granblue Collab Now Live!https://collaboration.shadowverse-wb.com/granbluefantasy/en/Balance Changeshttps://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01K82REDRZSJ96GAAKXKTCV566Zombie Land Saga: Yumeginga Paradise Special Login Bonus!https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01K7KJVACTJC6QZZ2BTWZE9FTPRegistration for the SVO Last-Chance Qualifier open November 2!https://www.svo.gg/tournamentsRegistration for the Shadowverse Online Championship 2025 November is Now Open!https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/news/detail/?id=01K7KVSDKV5VD3KZ81GAXDX60K>4th Card Set: Skybound Dragonshttps://shadowverse-wb.com/en/cards/pack/skybound-dragonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHb3NBZDOXE>Gacha Leaders: Belial and Beelzebubhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3pud4tIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfMnD-MDhwk >Gacha Leaders: The Six Dragonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2urP-XateY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhwTXBvet5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jUnP4oFFaA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Y8o1NJ3zE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPo9tY04h6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MszGegpGkzQ>Battle Pass Leader: Zetahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDUGj5c0ufs>Resource Guide (decks, tier lists, guilds)https://rentry.org/svg-resourcesOfficial website & deck portalhttps://shadowverse-wb.com/en/https://shadowverse-wb.com/en/deck/Shadowverse Animehttps://anime.shadowverse.jpShadowverse Evolve TCGhttps://en.shadowverse-evolve.com//svg/'s card & leader database and deckbuilder (classic)https://svgdb.meShadowverse: World's Beyond Card Databasehttps://mhmkhlrdn.github.io/WBGDB/SiteLast Showdown: >>544666145
Anyone have a spellboost rune list?
It starts as a whir. A shudder passing through the leaves. Then the trees start writhing, like wounded animals. Not long after, the swarm is upon you. It's in that moment that death emerges from the cocoon of concept, metamorphized into fact.
>>544719135yea
>>544719206play the game instead of posting your stupid ritual
tier list from a top ten mr player with 36 hours in the set
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1GHhT_r2optq0v2gMHSv9kLP2EDsh2cCX
>>544720446i don't understand chink
>>544720623MTG is in the other thread
>>544720325I do!Not roach anymore though. I played Abyss for all of set 3 and I'm on Dirt now.
>>544719135it is the same one as last patch except it runs 3x alchemical flare instead of the astrologists
>>544720446maybe post the link to it too, faggot
The granblue hypeLasted for less than 24 hours....*gulp*Looks like a good EOS angle
>>544720623it's not hard to tl images
>>544721053are you playing in the tourney or not, stop doomposting you dumb slut
>>544720685>>544721075>American websitefuck off chinks and post in english
Why did this set get only 76 cards and not 77?
>>544721453sandalphon is the protagonist of granblue fantasy and it would be disrespectful for there to be anyone on his level, so they cut the second neutral legend.
>>544720546thank you peeholefister
Why did midsword fall off so hard?
unironically compelled to try eggs for a while just because this happened last set
>BAnigger>retarded postlike clockwork
Post the best voice lines from this set.https://mhmkhlrdn.github.io/WBGDB/Site/
Whos your shadoba oshi?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kmwsGaCcRLI
>>544721193Did you just call me a slut?
>>544721053>game is already deadI'm having fun with Eggs. Beez was the perfect addition to really drive home that final kill. I also really like dirt, more the aesthetic of the cards but I think I need to figure out how to play it better. There's a ton of lists on sv wins so it's clearly a skill issue on my end.
Sword needs a 1PP 0/1: Rush. Last Words: Summon a Knight.
>>544722184Unironically to honest for the powercreep between set 2 and 4
>>544720698Aggro Abyss, right? RIGHT?!
>>544722398Man I've been looking for this site, thanks.Also this is the best voice line from the sethttps://mhmkhlrdn.github.io/WBGDB/Site/
>>544723031control abyss
>>544721329this is a shadoba thread not MTG anon, stay on topic
What do the new GM sleeves look like?
>>544723106It's... Over... I remember trying to see if you could make a Control Abyss deck back in set 1. How's it like now? Is it possible or is it kind of a cope deck still?
>>544723069Nigga, the site is in the OP, and you didn't link anything, you dumdum.
I'm looking to build a Discard Dragon deck. You guys got any pointers for me?
>>544723295>at the bottom of the OPthis explains why I kept glancing past it, please understand that I play Dragon, I'm going to be retarded.
>vira has dialogue with vyrn >lyria has dialogue with vyrn>...danchou doesn'tAIEEE TOKAGEBROS NOT LIKE THIS WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BEST BROS
>>544723474>any pointersDon't.
>>544723474Yeah discard this idea lmao
>>544723201https://x.com/momiji064/status/1983696119298453814
>>544723474depends on your goal of discardingtechnically jerry discards the most so you can just create the cockjerry otk deck
>>544719206please keep posting arisaroach bro
>>544723817Those are pretty nice, bet they'll look great once animated.
>>544720446crest t3? kinda susand t1.5 is dirt I guess
>>544720446>Wamdus tier 53
Where do dragon mains find the motivation to keep playing this game?
>Me and my favorite Shadowbanons
>>544724435>drop wamdus>instantly deleted
>>544724472lol
>>544724472Just awaiting 21/40 cards in deck are ramp only got 9 right now
gib the chest event already...
>>544720446Treasure royal is the easiest to misplay with, drops a tier for each 10iq under 140
Why does game8 have dragon at tier 1, but gamewith only tier 3?
>>544720446I can't read retard
Translated.How do you win with mystic (dirt) witch? Anytime you drop Lilan or w/e her name is the OP just kills her like 5 different times in one turn and then you lose. You have to use your dirt stacks on other stuff to stay alive.I assume I'm missing something critical but what? I really want to make the deck work especially since I got the full art Cag.
>>544724871Dekinai yatsu
>>544724861>haven >ss tierlollmao even
>>544722398I would but the fag hasn't uploaded ars magna
What does Galleon keep in her little leg satchel?
>>544720446Tier 1 - Loot SwordTier 1.5 - Dirt Rune(Insert huge gap here)Tier 2.5 :All form of AbyssTier 3 : Ward Haven, Destruction Portal, Puppet Portal, Ramp Dragon, Evolve/Mid/Aggro Sword, Rhino Forest, Spellboost Rune?Tier 4 : Crest Haven, Izudia ForestTier 5 : Wamdus and Rose ForestIs Loot Sword thaaat good?
reminder to play midrange evo abyss instead of control slop
>>544724945What is mystic witch? Climb satan?
>>544724861They're both just content aggregate scam sites.
>>544725187Dirt
pov: you are about to be evolved by galleon ;3
>>544724945>How do you win with mystic (dirt) witch?by having the best turn 4, 5, and 6 plays in the game
>>544725105>loot at loot sword lists>they're all litertally the same as last setI would give it a few more days for the meta to stabilize then we'll see where everything stands.
>>544725337coin A&GA&GA&GNone of the decks are running it though
>>544725370>same as last setWith 6PP Odin
>>54472494599% of the difficulty in dirt is identifying your wincon every game. That's the entire deck.
Clearly we need more heal or Sinciro is next on the chopping block.>6PP deal 48 damage with sevoWhat were they thinking?
>>544725059The key to my cage.
>>544725471I thought pink girl was the wincon. I was under the impression you drop her and auto win but I guess that was wrong
Corrupt foxing
>galleon>valsewhy is sword so fucking overloaded
Sinciro should only deal 8 with superevo so he doesnt just ignore barrier and last words, shit is retarded that he is a board wipe 100% of the time against every single board state
so... why didn't we get these two?
>>544726019>he is a board wipe 100% of the time against every single board statehavenhands did not type this
>>544725962>3PP deal 5 damage>can also conceal himself with 6PP for better IntimidateSword always has busted cards because they are braindead
>>544726019>shit is retarded that he is a board wipe 100% of the time against every single board state
>>544725883She's a wincon, not the wincon. Dirt has a dozen different ways to win but not all of them work in every match up so you're supposed to pick one and go.
>>544726294Horse running at hihg speed.jpg
>>544726309I'm brand new to the deck what are some? I know cag is probably one, sandal, raio but what else? Maybe norman and golems but everything just gets instantly deleted and none of the lists I've seen run odin.
I want to make Charon works so bad, but she just doesn't
Meduseful!
>>544724861Not even a week have passed, they most likely have no fucking idea what's good and not.
>>544726535
>>544726535>fediel does the same and even evolves for 2PPShe's a lost cause
>>544726753Remember that this was their Izudia deck for like 3 weeks.
>>544726751>still useful 4 sets inhow does medusa do it
>Play boardDoes not matter what board you have, sinciro erases it>Play one big dude that is resilent to sinciroOguri cap>Heal up after all that beatdownAlbert for 16 face damage>well im at 3 hp after taking all that damage, now i can setup my second wall, he has no sinciro and albert oguri cap cannot push trough my defenses, it is the time for my comeback!!Tentacles + other bullshit burnBut benis was the problematic card
Bros should I craft a dragon deck? I'm having fun with dirt, but ladder is only ward havens as far as the eye can see. The thought of using filene on their boards makes me hard and I think Wilnas is a very funny card
>>5447268957pp to kill 3 guys and put down a must remove body is good utility in most metas.
>>544727025dont craft itstay soft
>>544726975don't forget now they have odin 2.0 with bane and 2-body
Is Cygames making loli characters useless on purpose?
>>544726751no one is running her tho
>>544726975Just use zooey or lu woh to prevent damage. I don't get why lu woh buffs the enemy though, it seem dumb
>>544727025Dragon is in a decent spot at the moment but the craft itself is pretty flawed in WB so I recommend staying away.
>>544726975>play anything>crest effortlessly clears it while still having enough pp leftover to heal 10yes it was a problematic card.
>>544726797she's hotter than fediel. her alt art and voice lines are unmatched
>>544727159they know we'll love the lolis anyway but there's no way to get anyone to love the homoangels so they have to be meta to make up for it
>>544724945Eggs are better tham dirt though.Without Cag crest you are not winning shit.Egg can chip you down faster and if they drop bubs on curve with 2-3 eggs on board you are in lerhal range if you HP are 16 or lower their very next turn
>>544727159Wam isn't even a bad card.
>>544726975>>544727207>play anything>every deck effortlessly clears itThat one anon was right, either you have a OTK or just lose.
alright so what the fuck is the meta bros
>>544727025Dragon is kinda an anti-meta craft right now.It got all the tools to deal with anything on top of the meta but building it so will make you super weak to other craft. It can also never be T0(at least for now) since it doesn't have a game breaking mechanic to speak of.
>>544726491I've been seeing a lot of people struggle with dirt when it's not actually a hard deck to pilot. Things light up and your cards have clear play conditions so you don't have to think very hard about your turns compared to a lot of decks.I think what's happening is that people aren't used to non-linear decks because the set 3 meta was all "draw your 3 of deck enabler and drop bombs". Don't think of your wincon as individual cards you're trying to resolve, dirt is played by figuring out which play route wins your specific match up and then navigating to that by preparing enough dirt while cycling through your deck with your 20 draw cards. You're thinking about your opponent's deck more than your deck because your own deck is braindead to play. Like if you match into loot sword your wincon is probably going to be "spam healing until they run out of cards".
>>544727389how does egg deal with the vtuber
>>544727389>Without Cag crestThat's what T15 though? How are you supposed to survive until then when every deck can basically do 10+ damage every turn. Sure you got norman but even his healing seems bad now in this environment. cag crest only gives you what 1-2 damage and 1 heal every turn?
Is artifact portal unfixable?
Going by Youtube views Wamdus is the most popular leader of all sets, I hope this means more loli leaders from now on.
>>544727492>spam healing until they run out of cardsDirt doesn't have enough healing to keep up with the new sword
>>544727202From the outside looking in I don't see how that can be, the deck sounds unbeatableFor haven save filene for aether & instantly win the gameFor abyss save zooey for belial crest and instantly win the gameWilnas & Forte are hand checks that can instantly win the game against any deckMaybe I just gotta try it...
>>544727598Fucking hopefully.
>>544727207Point me to the haven card that deals 16 face damage in one turn + Board wipeThat comes with 12 face damage as the followup next turn
>>544727647She'll be the last one we ever get. Every set will be homos from here on out. Screenshot this so you can post it in a year.
>>544727562>turn15Thats turn 8 sometimes 7If your super skybound are on later than turn 9 on any deck using them you are brickedOnly dragon can't use their skybound for shit, they printed Mugen for storm ramp wincon but they don't have enough evos to make it happen
God, please, put Cassiopeia in the next set.
>>544727496Same way everyone else does, wasting a fuckton of resources to remove her/kill before she lethal you.
>>544727562Cag is way more consistent than other SSBAs because it's a 4pp baseline tempo card that you can keep before mulligan instead of being a 7pp value card in a deck running a bricked curve.
>>544727981You don't want to cag on curve retard or play her without atleast the base art active to boost another cag
>>544727675Dragon is in a weird spot where you can build it to beat almost every deck but it does that between the different archtypes it has. The Dragon lists that beat Haven don't beat Rune or Eggs for example.It also hard loses to Loot Sword and the most consistent build of Dragon... is just off brand lootsword.If you want to join the struggle I recommend it, Dragon is fun because it's kind of janky. Just don't expect it to be A-tier. Every expansion starts people hope and cope about the deck being good and then it craters down to tier 3.
>>544727675It's unbeatable provided you can ramp.And ramping is tempo loss.You get eaten alive by early aggro decks.
>>544727496one day you'll learn that clearing isn't everything
wtf this deck is actually fun
>>544725059Condoms
>>544728090lol you dont know how to play dirt
>>544725105It feels like it. Loot Sword was always an insanely degen deck that was gatekept out of the meta by Crest and Dirtboost.
>>544727781>Thats turn 8 sometimes 7HOW? I may be retarded
>>544728404>OP drops a wamdus>gets cleared effortlessly by litertally everythingWhat's the win con there? Hoping your OP doesn't have an answer? Dropping it behind norman?
>>544728525>first evo turn>should i play manual evo Cag get 1 shitty spell in hand or should play perfurmer/edel/the alchemist whores/GranJeta insteadUmhhhh
>>544728683A lot of decks can't clear some Wammy boards.
>>544728605By not playing Cag on curve because she is TEMPOOOOO when you can play Perfurmer instead or Edel for 4 and progress her art while doing more tempo too
a certain 12 letter word is going to disappear
crest mirror is such a retardation
>>544727781Dragon has a shitload of free evo because of the neutral cards. They can ramp and just evo for free. The problem is super skybound isn't tied to PP instead of turns. If skybound arts was tied to PP, it would make dragon tier 0.
>>544728683Wam + bunch of Blaze Destroyers are pretty hard to clear unless you cum chalice.
>>544728881If your deck runs shit cards like vyrn you are already tier 3
i spent a 17 minute match against a ward crest haven playeri won but i don't think it was worth 17 minutes...
>>544728683No clue, i just assumed my OP bricked. I dont even have a full set of Dclimb or wammy yet.
>>544729164I mean, you're on Belial.Of course your games are going to take 20 minutes sometimes lmao.
>>544728189i don't think you understand what dirt does. the answer is you don't and you die before you get to do your epic combo
>5th crest haven mirror in a rowgod almighty help me
We may have to buff puppets again next month.
I've been trying to play loot but holy shit I can't draw Congregant or Sinciro for my life even with Tablet and Grandjeeta
>>544728951If a tier 3 deck can beat a tier 1 deck, is it really tier 3?
>>544729568Yes.You don't understand how tiers actually work
>>544729229i did get fed up with ward haven and shoved in all board breakers and healingafter this match i tossed out satans for my own sandalphons. these haven players have too much gas
>>544729457I really don't want to die to Orchis again though.Can't we just let the archtype stay bad like Aggro dragon?
>>544728090>open cag>keep>have good play on 4>play that>don't have good play on 4>play cag
>diamond rank upplease no, get me back to topass
This is really fucked up
>>544729830It's disgusting
Why don't they rank you down to Ruby anymore when you were Diamond/Sapphire in the previous season? If you start the expansion late it's a worse experience since you'll go up against 10k+ MP Diamond players while you have no idea of the meta.
>>544729632You should probably cut Ginyuzu for something. Mukan, Belial and Medusa should answer most Ward boards already so add a Reaper deathslash.
It's crazy to me that this nigga has been in the game from day one, and is still one of the better cards in the game
I really miss the omen meta...
>>544730096It's an incredibly overloaded card>7pp build a board with 2 rush bodies and a ward.>also spellboosts for 5>Is also a wincon by printing a 10/10 or 13/13 storm dude with ward auraIt just does everything.
>>544730042i tried without g&y but i don't have enough healing without their 4 so i die to other people sandalphon because i drag the game out long enough to enable their SSBAi wish there were better sources of healing outside of fediel and supplicant cope
Entire game has just devolved into clearing the board and try to get to your uninteractive iwin combo apart from sword spamming face damage and haven
If Mode Abyss and Ward Haven are popular I think Dirt should fit her in the deck.
>>544730096This piece of shit card is the reason we got absolutely worthless pieces of shit for legendaries for 4 sets straight Every card thats not norman is just terrible>cagmeme card no one will be playing in 2 weeks
>>544730395Fair enough. Bat healing is a lot but not always enough.
>>544730529cag doesn't even do anything except give you some do nothing burn spell every turn if you got a crest
>>544730529>we>portal image
>want to use velharia>find out that truf rune and everything relating to it is utter dogshiteI just wanted my heterochromia cunny..
>in 2 sets annegrea kuon and climb will rotate out>rune will be left with a cesspool of terrible legendary cards + norman
>>544730918they'll just add the better version of them in?
i buss ma nuhhh 2 gallon hard asf
waiting for chimera
>>544730918>They just reprint better versions of runes legendary cards that rotate out
>>544730781you can put her in dirt. evoing her isn't that bad since you want to evo shit for cog and sandy anyway
Fucking finally another EX stage done
https://x.com/bakanyanpien/status/1983818360430506287one of the top betrayal in svwb tierlist
Sakakibara status??
I'm retarded, what do they mean by this? What cards qualify?
>>544731374Nice tier 53 deck >>544720446
>>544731439Cards with text in their evolve effect
>>544731439if it has "Evolve:" or "Super-Evolve:"like the heterochromia cunny
>>544722398TASSURU
>>544731276I just cocytus dclimb these
i thought feather was supposed to ruin the game
>>544731690He does for my opponents.
>>544731526>believing otaku tierlist
What is the consensus on what deck is ruining the meta
>>544730537i ran into a mode abyss player in the wild and this deck managed to board break three sham boards in a rowthis gives me kaiju flashbacks from yugioh master duel
yuni cutehttps://files.catbox.moe/61kcrv.mp4
baposter was that you who just made the oguri cap reference and got him to read it and try to respond to you
>>544731374I... I think I might play thisWish me luck bros
>>544731873wtf! i thought dirt couldnt deal with aether boards!!!
bat should get rush
>>544731752your decks ruin the metamy deck is honest
>>544730781I use her in dirt. She's saved me way too many times for me to think everyone is right for cutting her.
>>544731374>Against dragon there's no way to win
>>544730918your cog?
>Alt f4 out of rage few hours ago>Log back in>Draw literally the best sequence possible against my best matchup>Even win a 1 in 4 RNG random target situationReminder the game is rigged for whales, streamers, and people on the verge of quitting to win more
>>544731374>300k viewsMY OFF META ROSE QUEEN DECKNYOOOOOO
>>544731901to clarify, someone said "oguri cap for lethal" when the streamer drew oguri cap even though the opponent was at 20 hp, so i have to assume it was someone from here shitpostingbecause of this the last ten minutes the streamer and his whole chat has been talking about english comments/streaming
>>544732312dragon has always been forest's hardest counterliterally no matter the deck dragon rapes youtempo? orcas are better fairies and they heal and then you get stormed and dieroach? you get stormed and dierose queen / izudia? you get stormed and die or you get jerry stan'd
>>544729830>8PP play that doesn't win games It's shit
>>544732484>rigged for whaleswhale rigging runs out pretty fast.
>Skybound art don't count evolves unless they are already in your hand for the evolvesI hate this, It just rewards you for drawing your cards in the right order
>>544733208It's fucking hellish to implement in physical cards too
>>544733208dont worry, they will print more cards like that except it will reduce cost for each follower destroyed instead of sba
>>544733219my permanently lactating elf momwife
>>544733208basically everyone relevant(pros, streamers, etc.) was saying it was a bad mechanic that shouldn't come back because of this and that the priconne version was way better
>>544733605How'd the priconne version work anyways
>>544733319>bro I tots had this card in my hand from t1
how many sandal copies do you guys have in your decks haven players?i'm rolling with 1 and it's been going fine
>>544733651the union burst goes down by 1 for every evo and the default was 10, no 15 version
/vmg/ soon, set 4 did not save the game
>>544733816wait so is it identical to SBA and the only distinction is no SSBA?
So dirt I should mull for cag so I can build her skybound right?
>>544733868pretty much
staph banishing my wilbert
>>544734065nothin' personnel kiddo
I keep running into Wamdus shift. There's no possible way this is area right?
>>544733605i like how you make it seem like it's something completely differentmeanwhile it's literally the exact same mechanic with a changed name LMAO
>>544734403You complain about haven so now rune will have many top deck and sword too, you rike?
https://x.com/mura__sv/status/1983881061215224052why arent you retweeting this!??!
>>544733605priconne version next set but both mechanics won't work with each other.
What went wrong?
>>544734705set 5 will save the game
>>544734705Albert and Dclimb releasing in set 1 instead of 10
>>544734440i didn't play it, i just know they were comparing it favorably to skybound arti think princess knight might have been the reason
>>544734778>Albert>drops a wardNice albert lmao.
>>544734794*to super skybound art and/or skybound arti'm not sure if it was only the former or both
>>544734559>he still butthurt over being "fired" as a pro player
galleon a whore who'll kiss and evolve anyone
>>544735765yes
Does anyone have an Eggs list? Do people still play Supplicant or Sylvia? I've seen some use that biker 2pp drop that gives +1 skybound arts.
>>544731776decklist onegai
>>544736015>>544729632
>alternate card art>that you will barely be able to see because she is chained up when you play her
I tried to build rodeo heaven with satan and lapis but somehow everything outscales me. i haven't even had lapis banished a single time yet, every deck is just warding up or killing me passed her
>>544720446Is zaihou really that fucking OP? Everyone keeps saying that but I haven't seen it being that broken.
This is a Wam free zone no wamming allowed
>>544736138>because she is chained up when you play herHOT
>>544736071Thank you anon, quick question.. What's your mull choices for Ward/Egg?
You know forest is completely fucked when they start trying to make you believe Rose Queen is a good deck
>>544736209it's the aggro sword of svwbdo you remember aggro sword was always at top tier when new pack drop because nobody have refined their new decks?
>>544736483I dunno the deck was t1 the entirety of last set
what deck will i like if my favorite yugioh deck was tearlaments?
>>544736424i personally keep soiree, shadowcrypt and for portal aragavy for their zwei playagainst portal it's impossible to know if it's egg or puppet because they open nearly the exact same way and yuni dies to puppet lancer's 3/3 tokenthis deck was made to hunt down anything playing for board like haven and wamdus spellboost so it's going to struggle against anything that can do 20 damage otk
>>544733767played 2, tried dropping to 1 (playing the 2nd one rarely happens), now i'm back to 2 again (kind of want the crest to happen but it doesn't happen when i draw him)
>>544736803Shadowverse doesn't have mill decks. Maybe Spellboost because it turns into a yugioh combo deck once DClimb is fully charged.
>>544736138Is she still chained if she survived being silenced by the 9 damage guy?
>>544737197shouldnt be
So is spell boost actually below dirt now?
bros.. abyss is more fun than ward
>>544737643No shit
>the character actually emotes differently when they win or lose while playing in the lobby
>rosequeen rapes dirt>gets absolutely fucked by sword and dragonAny chance this deck will remain in the ladder more than like a couple of days?
What do I do.How does this work?I just wanted my sleepy crest girl but its forced a homo down my throat
>>544738051Are you stupid? Obviously hold on to it.
>>544738051if you click trade you will get beelzebubif you click don't trade, you have to pull 100 more times to guarantee the ticket you want
Izudia bros, can we even survive until turn 10? How do we deal with all that new bullshit?
>>544738004>sword you should check the note he made in comment against sword (and other matchup)
>>544738051If you don't take it you get to choose after 100 more pack points
>>544738004rose queen can't even deal with double norman playwhat are you talking about>>544738051you got RNG for beelzebub and if you click no, the choice is discarded and you need to grind out another 100 pulls to choose your own rewardthe 100 packs should be possible with event rewards and 2 battlepasses, but eh...
>>544738115>>544738092if I pick the homo does it reset my points down to 0 and I'd need to open another 250 packs to try and get her?
>>544738174It's 200 after the first one but yes.
>>544738174200 for another lucky chest or 300 for the guaranteed pick
>>544738167It has like a 90% winrate against dirt or something when going second or whatever. I don't recall. Something like that.
oguri
Evens orchisOdds daria
>40 more rolls until i can replace kaori's ugly ass for daria
Where were (You) when Cag saved Dirt?
zooey have made dragoncraft jerry decks funny as fuck to play by being a good 5pp followup play to dragonsign rampimagine facing off against this i won by self deckout
>theress people that think Kaori is uglyBoy, some kids have no taste. Cygames should show off her ass though.
>>544738251win chance 90% going 2ndchance to go 2nd 50%win chance going 1st probably 0%overall win chance 40%, shit deck
>level 33 collection>costs 40k vials to make haven deckI don't know how I haven't pulled these fucking cards
>>544735054why was he firedsv pro players are just popular contests, mura is obviously better than all of them
get wilnas'd, cap'd, and then shark'd, idiot
How does having 2 or 3 copies of Sandals work in this?
>>544739317How little soul do you have that you're still throwing your deck away for jerry gimmick shit like day 2 of a new set?
Holy shit I'm so fucking sick of seeing Nehan. How is this card so insanely busted with absolutely 0 downsides or requirements
>>544740307There is like a billion board clears if you play dragon. That card isn't even that strong
>>544739542Did you open your chest park? Maybe there is a grimnir waiting for you.
>>544739467>win chance going 1st probably 0%Not even you believe that.
>>544740238Sorry let me do other gimmick shit like feather or wamdus barriers i guess
>>544731374this shit actually works wtf
Is current mode better or worse than evo abyss?
>>544741080>went down to 10 cardswhat the fuck happened bwobelial deck being 1 turn away is not normal
>>544741173i had to delay my rose queen by one turn because of unlucky draws (only had six 1 drops). insane that i won anyway.
>>544741302The point went way over your head.
>>544741130nobody knows yet. they both seem to be viable decks though.
>>5447401902 is the maxyou can maybe get away with 13 seems overkill honestly
>>544741302I looked at the list and one rose queen os definitely asking for it
>>544741526I mean evo abyss gets belial 20 damage at like turn 10 or 11 right? Mode usually drags for longer than that, so I imagine mode would just lose almost every time.
>>544741130Mode abyss has always been slow. I can literally beat mode abyss by playing JO abyss (playing jerry deck on curve) and beat it 90% of the time on turn 12 by decking out.
>>544741829Modr abyss seems bad. Part of the appeal was fat ward boards with congregant hags but ward haven can now do that on turn 7 without having to do a quest like sham
>>544740307>6pp>unplayable into a big board>but also shit into no boardyep yep super bustedwhat craft(s) do you play
>>544742003sham's quest's reward is having my cum in her womb tho
>>544742184Sham posting is all gone for people lusting over galleon galleons and wamdus’s wamIt’s over spiderlings
what even beats loot right now
>>544728553Dirtboost didn't gatekeep shit bro
>>544742641most things
>play aetheris there any deck in existence more braindead than ward?
>>544742825crest
>>544742641Yuni to stabilize against earlygame (aura means no valse)Gilnelise on regular evolve turns to drain backPretty much you are praying for their low roll. Decks like portal have 8 turns to draw into their wincon like bubs and orchis. Sword has to curve perfectly from the 1st turn onwards
>>544742641thanks for reminding me>544692321update: evo apiss also gets shit onunironic t0 bullshit, might as well concede to save time when faggot plays octrice and fuses the homo cause there is no winning at that point, if at any given moment i'm below 20 they can just ignore my board entirely and le storm face because my clock is too slow and healing too inefficent
>>544743002>>544692321
>>544742825Trune
Sword got a really big buff with mordred (3pp 2/1 storm that summons 2/3 ward on evolve) Nearly 90% of the time mordred evolve to chip 4 damage face is better than zirconia evolve to do 0 damage on an empty board, and plays well into sinciro finishersI don’t think sword players are mentally ready to drop their queen for a shota yet though
>>544743291Nothing is worse than haven dude. Nothing.
>>544742974>Yuni to stabilize against earlygamehad to look up the card to make sure.. yep you're fucking trolling
>>544743764its actually pretty good into valse and qb
>>544743764Tell me another 3 drop that can survive valse?
>>544743890
>>544744141I mull this piece of shit card away against sword when I play tempo unless I have the exact highroll in hand because 9 times out of ten he is a 4/4 or 5/5 valse bait
>cancerous aggro sword just spamming face like a goddamn retard because he got lucky>I finally draw wards>concedes
Should I be playing dirt or spellboost? Anyone got a decklist?
I hate this little fuck. One drops that are very good on 1, but ONLY good on 1 shouldn't exist
>SV1>Could put every aura card in your deck and assrape rune at the expense of other matchups>WB>Aura is worthless because every rune card is a follower with free untargeted damage and/or rushWhy is this game so fucking garbo???
I give up on ward, bros. Played Haven since release and it always felt dogshit to play.I am converting to Abyssbro now.
I'm just winning every games as dragon in ruby
I get absolutely dogshit draws as loot so I think I will continue to play mid sword until the end of time
how retarded is it to autismaxx on one class only an disregard everything else entirely?
>>544745340It's fine if you pick sword or rune since they are literally never bad. Other classes have to risk being unplayable dogshit for multiple expansions.
>>544745340Are you Abyss? If so not very.
>>544745340Plenty of people do it it's fine. You'll save a lot of extra resources that way which also makes it a lot more convenient to just go endlessly into one pack for cosmetics. You'll have to eat gutter sets for your class though.
>>544745396>>544745404fug I wanted to go all in in abyss since I have found the gay leader
>>544745340you wont get good at the game
I'll never reply to rune player's hello again
I wonder if we'll get a Priconne set or if the franchise is just totally dead.
>>544745443Abyss has some really good cards so it's not like you're forest or anything
>>544745803Forest rose queen is t0 though? Haven't you seen the twitter post?
>>544746109If its tier zero why can't they climb the ladder with it? How do they stop loot from killing them on turn 7-8?
I faced off against a belial leader and why does it feel like cygames put 200% more effort into him over the 6 dragon leaders combined
>got booted all the way down to emerald because I keep fucking up with spellboost I'm not gonna make it
>>544746167because they did, the dragon leaders are a gimmick. belial and beelzebub are the traditional gacha leaders
can a tier 2 deck climb to M/GM?
>>544746167They did. There're two "tiers" of leaders which are broadly gacha leaders with full screen evo effects and particles and BP leaders which are a lot more simple. The dragon leaders are technically gacha leaders but they didn't receive visages and their animations resemble the BP leaders in what they include.
>>544746264?a tier53 deck can get to master/gm it just requires games not winrate
>>544746264Tier 100 deck can climb bro you don't lose mp on loss
Just lost a match cuz I was 1 turn too slow on activating sandal's summon.
>>544746484.. you probably lost more games like that but didn't realize it
>>544746469>>544746473
I'm so ready to hit the chests event with face dragon AND aggro sword. Imagine the speed at which I will be earning the rewards.
240 packsnot a single ticket
>Sinciro cannot clear a turn 7 Aether board anymoreWhy is Galleon so fucking fat?
>crafted the new cards for haven>TfwI'm not having fun bros, it's not fun whether I win or lose. I made a mistake making this deckThis isn't tanoshi at all ..
>>544745340You'll get bored only playing one class and the game's economy isn't built for it anyway since you can't liquefy cards you don't have more than three of.
>>544743890yep their deck is literally monovalse bro 0 other removal options in it haha just play YUNI and you instawinyour 3 drop isn't meant to survive anything, it already needs to provide value in addition to the body or it's not very goodand i'm not convienced that +1hp is good enough value to warrant a slot
>>544743832when do you play itif you're going first they can answer with zetabea or 4pp lootnigger and you're going to be very sadif you're going 2nd and coin it they can devotee boots or just leave it there if your deck is slow, it will die for free later, loot can skip early game pressure entirely (see: tablet) and it doesn't matter (but opp has to still stop the potential early game pressure or the game is over on the spot)if you don't coin it opp might as well just ignore thisplus it doesn't synergize with any deck, do you slot this into abyss? haven? portal? dragon? i mean certainly not rune/forest/swordand replacing what?
>>544747102>You'll get bored only playing one classThis just means you don't like the class enough
>>544747124All you do is yap and don’t bother testing things in game, please fuck off
It only took 1 day for the ladder to be 60% sword again. Bravo, cygames, bravissimo
>>544747631So then use a deck that beats it?
>>544747805the best deck vs sword is sword going 2nd althoughbeit
https://x.com/shadowverse_jp/status/1984198676152193263its up
>Ramp into tiple Wilnas>WinI guess he's troublesome to remove after all.
why do rune players bm, slow play and emote with lethal in hand like subhumans so much? i never see other crafts do this
>>544748014I've never seen anyone do this period in WB. What sort of topaz hell are you in?Though I do remember in og a rune player using kuon leader spamming "MASAKA" emote before using a spell that dealt 20 damage from hand
revert benis nerf already
even dayan is simping rose queen nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BLwTu3Hpk
>Ramp into Wilnas and evo package and overwhelm crest on board.Mugen being a 13/11 sevo with destroy two, closed the game.>>544748178No.
>>544748119im in diamond, i wish i was in topaz.
>>544747274here's where i'd tell you to post cr or kill yourself but it's a bit too early in the season..
>>544748456Why is Forest always so cheap? Is it the "it's bad but it's cheap haha" craft?
Cog spell should deal 3 damage
>>544748456I hope this shit doesn't become popular. Combo decks are pure cancer.
>>544748456The great irony of the Rose Queen trend is that almost nothing has actually changed in the lists since last meta. Lyria means less Rose bricking but she also can't get you a turn 8 Rose Queen and the rest is just side grades on the control suite.But I get it. Meta is even slower since SSBA control decks don't kill other control decks the way crest fucked you if you ever failed to keep a board.
shadoba.
>>544748627Legendary cards are usually power cards but forest is the combo class so lists usually can't run a lot of bombs or swing cards to fit in their combo pieces
suge
dirt vs midsword is peak shadoba
>>544746373They still get unique frames though. The decoration around the evo points etc. BP leaders don't have that.
>>544748895Any match that does not involve haven in any way is peak shadoba.God I fucking hate haven so much.
Did you buy the Granburu stage?
>>544749004current haven is not that bad, aether is a bit of a problem card but she's a good way to make sure people aren't greedy and actually play board clearotk/comboslop is garbage gameplay and aggro is even worse, midrange vs midrange is fun
>>544749252im thinking about it, first time im feeling actual fomo with this fucking kusoge
>>544748553What the fuck. You’re a havenkekEven if you don’t like yuni you have:DoseBlinding faithCleric of crushing2pp ward + divine guardGalleon if aether variantAre you really fucking complaining??
Zooey not having the explosion sound effect she had in her sv1 version just feels wrong.
>>544749313I would agree with ward being midrange since I have no better description of it but it's a really weird one. You have a huge swing turn with very polarized match ups and snowball instead of grinding the way midrange decks usually do. It doesn't feel like midrange in match ups while it does fit any criteria
>>544749252how much is it?
How come we don't have halloween cosmetics
>>544749896500 crystals
>>544749502just picked a deck where i can include your fucking awesome card without feeling like i'm turbobricking everythinghow about you post a deck with it then?and no haven is not favored against loot lmao
>>544748474I'm starting to think Mugen is good just for being an 8pp guy that destroys 2. Don't even need ougi.
>>544749649You should be happy that Zooey was allowed to show up at all with how they treat her now.
>>544749313Aether is fucking ridiculous. I don't think I hate any card in the game more. Maybe wilbert. But whops look at that. It's from the same deck!
>>544750049tbf who else would they use as dragon lego? other grub dragons are in even worse state.
>>544749996I am not spoonfeeding your ass that can’t add yuni and gilnelise into a decklistYou’re retarded so puppets is perfect for your seething ass
ehehehehehe
>>544749313>actually play board clearName me something that can clear multiple 9-12 HP worth of followers on turn 7 besides William without saccing your entire board and hand?
>>544750359
>>544750359They could theoretically give us some random bumfuck Draph but I do agree Zoi is the only real good choice with Siggy in Sword and no one giving a shit about any of the summons.
>>544750225it consistently gives you 25 25 stats on deck. On top of Grimnir clear with Aether attack. It's a auto loss if you are Sword or Dragon.
>they added a checkbox to hide the group you were in when you became GMSilly
>>544750614Dragon has several ways to do it, but I do agree it's kind of an annoying deck check for a lot of decks.At the same time though, Aether is supposed to be very hard to answer since it does nothing but print a board while fucking with how you build your deck, they should realistically get to keep 1 or 2 bodies when they play it.
>>544750796The thing is Sword could easily clear a set 2 Aether board with Gildaria + Samurai but Galleon now auto evolves another fatass followers to 9-12 health so you're leaving up one or two followers and get fucked next turn by Jeanne.The problem card is Wilbert. Forces everyone to play Odin and Odin is no longer good anymore against non-Haven decks.
>>544750827How pointless, if its hidden the few people who care will assume it's topaz anyway
>>544750685>two retards fighting.jpg
why is everything belial says is like an innuendo
>>544751497its his entire gimmick.
Haven doesn't have enough spells to complete the mission now
>>544751290We should have gotten Bea instead of Zeta as the battlepass since Bea is a proper retard.
>1pp deals 4 damage and activates egg effects
fuck your satan and 50/50 boards
>>544751040I disagree. Aether super evo clears alot of boards and even without Wilber crest has 23-24 Ward Wall (if she wins the 75+% chance to draw Galleon). Only specific board wipes can deal with this. Sword is over. Dragon has only one card that can clear.
>>544731374how the fuck are you supposed to play thishow do you refill your hand after using everything to survive
>>544751729>Dragon has only one card that can clear.
>>544725105yeah, if you don't run 3x gilnelise you lose, it's way too fast.I feel like dirt rune is good right now because of norman and all the fucking cancerous healing the craft has in general.
>>544751729Twilight dragon clear most of the times
>>544745340i do it playing forest and i have fun playing every different dogshit deck you can play (rose queen, tempo, izudia, evo control, evo midrange, and also roach sometimes too)
horryyy shieet double aurathis runenigger is cooked!..
take THAT crestsissy
>check the new loot sword>Same exact deck except it punts all the weird tech options that suck 90% of the time (Amelia, Centaur, Luminious Lancer) for 3x ZetabearNo shit everyone is playing it. It's cheap if you invested last expansion.
20
i wanna p2wwhat's the most legendary heavy viable deck atm?
I don't think it's humanly possible to understand how much I fucking hate haven.
>>544751729Dragon is the only class that has all the answer for Ward Haven, granted it will be fucking useless against other decks if built that way.
Siete looks so fucking shit man. I wonder if evo sword has any potential at all
>>544753624No wincon. They should have just let him have his Aegis effect for SSBA. There's enough attack/defense debuffs in the game to keep it in check.
Someone explain to me how the hell is aether a fair card
>>544745396You say this as if sword and rune has never been shit in sv1. They have, as much as other classes. Sword had something like the second longest streak of being unplayable.
>>544754035Because she pulls the card out of your deck. Play her twice and you will run out of units to play after that.To win from Ward Haven you need to have some sort of ways to clear the board twice.
dropped all the way down to ruby and im only 3000 mp away from gm... its looking bad sisters
Whats best portal deck atm?SV wins has mix between pure puppets, beelz eggs, beelz puppets and i literally have 0 portal games to know
>>544754501Bubz puppet brick less than Bubz egg. In puppet, you only need Orchis/Bubz in late game and Lyra will help that. In egg, if you don't draw Lishenna or 2pp egg generator before turn 5, you lost.
How many expansions until forest gets their first top tier deck that doesn't have 0-10 matchups like every top tier deck other classes get?
>>544754885flipside is that eggs heal so you aren't instadead because you took 3 damage early game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CuHWXcHRIE>Dragon going from Meg, Wilnas and Mugen are bad, to even 10pp bronze is a meme but playable.
>>544755170Zoi really does tie shit togetherMeg is still bad tho.
>>544755170Imagine using his video as reference for anything being usable.
>>544754501Egg gives no fuck to ward haven wallNow that they have Bubs and Chaos Legion the deck is as aids as crest
>November>Throwback Rotation>Brigade of the Sky–Rebirth of Gloryyeah already done with this WB expansion, catch me in sv1 with my wife mono
>>544755282>Anything outside of tourney videos is not a viable referenceHow does it feel playing otk run and crest for several months already?
>win with Galleon leader>tells you to take a nap on her lap during the results screen
danchou is not quitting the game right..
why does belial get a full board clear but none of the other lategame wincon cards do, like izudia and beelzebub
>>544755170I don't know if you noticed it but in all those wins they were perfect 2 ramp curve matches.You know what follows when that doesn't happen.
>>544755641Next match? Or opponent bricks even harder.
i just want rune to be not tier 1 for ONE fucking set is that so hard
>>544755170>First game is eggs skipping the first 3 turns>While Dragon hits a perfect ramp curveAlright man, whatever you say.
>>544755623he is, and hes making you the new guild leader
evo forest will get 62% better if they change the supplicants superevo effect to normal evo
>>544755639belial hits your own board
>>544755961Forest needs two real changes. Aria needs to be 5pp+normal evo for fairies and the cat needs an SSBA that refunds a super evo.
>>544755639belial can't clear wamdus full barrier board
abyss mirrors are absolute worst
>>544755534Bro tsuruoka is a meme player. His videos are made to be funny. Most of what he shows are only usable if you are a timmy that actually enjoys losing 90% of games to pull off that sweet combo.
>>544756107>refunds a super evo.Not happening at least until the next set.
>>544755703this but sword
>>544756165Not refuting that a deck with 3x of that 10pp bronze is not competitive.But what's the actual point in climbing ranked when all that awaits you there is more crest and otk?
>>544756358that but dragon
>2nd titania ticket or 2nd Aether ticket?Who should i choose for my home screen collection?
1 copy of Raio as a tech is so fucking good
>>544756358Sword and Rune are both okay by virtue of not being fucking Haven.
>>544756619I never fucking draw him with any spell it's so stupid
>>544755639cuz he needs set up to actually be a wincon
>>544756905>he doesn’t have the japanese genes to curve out raioIt’s over
What class does well against haven? I'm so fucking tired of this class just being easy win every fucking time.
yunicuni completely shutdowns sword early board lmao
>>544757190Portal.
>>544757190I think you can build dragon for board clears, with Filene, Twilight and Ifrit and maybe Mugen with his evo package. But then you'll have harder time hitting face.
>>544757429And Wilnas is good vs non aura wards. And Lyria helps to tutor these, if you ramp that is.
What class does well against rune? I'm so fucking tired of this class just being easy win every fucking time.
>it's another havenI'm starting to get trauma from aether's voice
>>544757190>everyone complaining against AetherLooks like i'm picking a 2nd Aether ticket after all, thanks my anon.
>>544757190Beat their ass up early with face dragon and finish them off with shark or clear their board with filene/twilight
>>544757586rune is t0 since day 1, you are always at their mercy and can only win if they brickit was the same in sv1
>>544753160Isn't she cute?>>544756905just don't spend a cog spell
you shouldnt be allowed to heal against aggro decks
>>544751717He bricked and you're mom posting and you're playing havenHoly cringe
bros how do i win with crest ward?
Fuck dude I had 4 havens in 5 matches. I'm tired. I think I'm just tired.
>>544753252Post dicklist bwo
>>544757773>and can only win if they brickYeah good luck against haven with dirt. I watched parachan stuff specifically for the haven matches, he didn't get many and the ones he did played like they bricked.
>>544757190Dragon, but when you get matched up with other crafts it's miserable.
Someone got greedy with their drain
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaieeeeeee
>>544755170this guy's videos are great for comedic entertainment and nothing else>cherry-picked replays>emerald live matches>"WOW!!!"
Fediel...
Me and my opp are stuck in set 3 still.
>>544759624So, they are a viable alternative to playing the game yourself, after you get daily rupees for the next set?
Post egg dicklist so i can comeback
I'm suddenly hit by an urge to play relink againKMR your plan worked
Is egg actually good? Instead of playing egg generators why not just put some body on board and hit face? Also instead of playing bub and pop your eggs why not just play bub then kill with Orchis?
>>544759928Mode is just too slow for this meta I don't know how that one guy got a 15 winstreak.Evo is activating belial at like turn 11 already and it's not like evo doesn't have ginsetsus to stall either.
>>544748014Havenfag in last match of GP emoted like a fucker before dropping double Demons. Some players just like to gloat
Bullying swordkeks in take two
There was no reason to nerf benis and sakakibara was right once again
>>54475004610PP Sylvia without draw/heal though
dayan is discussing about masturbating to ewiyar
https://x.com/minimin_sv/status/1984200644518166617
>>544760761My bro is living a happy life
>>544760110Yep, it's good. It has more damage now and even better board clear compared to the previous set.
i want to play portal but i dont want to play as that potatoface dreizehn
>>544761174even better implies it had good board clear last set. just say better.
i love auto losing without counter
>>544761368bro you're playing haven what the fuck are you complaining about
>>544761368just shut up every deck has bad matchups
>>544761368Haven literally has the one exact card to survive the 20 dmg.
>>544761526except rune, apparently
>>544761448ive dropped to emerald playing crest ward
>>544761581retard
>>544761258My bad, thanks tho. I just want to eggsagerate the fact that eggs got better board clears now with the help of the new cards.
>>544761581Rune gets raped by rosequeen according to that twit and also dirt doesn't do well against ward haven unless they get lucky
>>544761612retard
>>544761716nta but retard
>>544761368Just play a board and jeanne it, or hit face with crest. And you have three turns to prerare shield.
is her time to shine
>>544761703>according to that twit
autoevo this autoevo thatshadoba uno youkoso
>>544761831I'll take a pro player's word over yours. Are you a pro?
dirt folded by evo forest
>>544724506are you still here... ><did you find the deck you want to craft yet
So are there ever going to be any actual balance changes? Or is it safe to say WB is just unplayable slop that's somehow worse than Hearthstone?
>>544762558They balance with their tourneys in mind, not the playerbase. Except for benis, there was too much to ignore.
>>544762558It's playable now and there's a variety of decks to be played.
>>544762558nothing to balance, except dclimb but theyre not interested since its not overwhelmingly popular
How does sandals work with rara? Does she come back in the middle of his effect distribution or does her resurrection resolve after?Pic related sandal just hit face immediately so I didn't get to find out.
>>544762843Judging by Ifrit's waves, Lilanthim will reappear after sandal is done spilling his coffee.
>>544762954sword was in all of them, can you stop doing this already?
>>544762954what are you trying to say literally everyone agrees that rune is the biggest problem
>>544762954kys u disingenuous fuck
>>544760110I was right, instead of playing eggshit you play Bub into Orchis/Liam instead and win right there.
>>544762954>spellboost>spellboost>spellboost>dirtWould you be saying the same thing if we had a puppet meta for the first three sets and an artifact meta for the 4th?
>>544763105Dirt being t1 or not is still up for debate currently.
>>544762954Another round of emergency haven nerfs when?
anything else i can do for the deck? ive got an under 40% wr with this as a former loot, midrange sword, and roach and finally understand all the pain haven players felt in set 2 eating dogshit upon dogshit
>>544762843last word resolves after your fanfare. so no, she wouldnt come back to block your sandy!
>>544763215He wasn't referring to spellboost there, so the point is still sound.
>>544762843last words effects happen after every queued effect resolvesie zombie vs grimnir+marwynn crests will respawn after the damage from both was dealt
>>544763282nevermind 10 wins 19 losses how do i pilot it better or is it really just draw curve perfectly?
>thread already back to 20 posts/hour 1 (one) day after set dropslmao, kusoge
>>544763017>>544763494>>544763285Cool good to know, thanks.
She got away with it. Again.
>>544763608if your game has a faster general than this its slop
>>544763608Nigga it's 9am on a friday
>mode abyss with 1 BelialBut why? The earliest you can play him is turn 11 and even then, you need to wait 4 turns. Sounds like a worse Satan
>>544763608card game is just a dead genre.... unlike gacha that has a focus on characters for us to wank overI hate it so much, but I can understand it. it's the autist that will keep the game alive i just hope danchou is busy with the tourney and not already burnt out.. aaaas ;;;
What is a Departed follower?
>>544764141The 20 damage is the last last resort in case things drag. A beefy as fuck body with a board wipe for 7pp is not bad. It's better than medusa for most situations.
>>544764341Departed is a special trait for dead things. Any follower brought back with Reanimate will have it too. It will then interact with cards like Mukan or Charon
>>544764141he acts as a bahamut for ward haven
>>544764341All the abyss tokens that aren't bats and every follower summoned by a reanimate effect
i don't trust that gamewith tier list... any other tier list website out there?
Someone redpill me on the Raio dirt.
>>544764507Lich when.
>>544764545none of them are trustworthy at this point yet, its 100% anecdotal. but svlabo.jp is usually the best onehttps://svlabo.jp/blog-entry-1465.html
Were your pre-release predictions better than this?
There's a reason why posts about winstreaks completely vanish once people are back in grand master
>>544764709its there just for ward haven and aether
https://x.com/PON777_tsukapon/status/1983916011423248388is crest ward the most consistent deck using galleon? im a massive shitter not playing haven before and eating shit in the process
>>544764764She's already here bro :^)
they should print a third legendary for sword next set since were doing only one neutral now
>>544764709wtf?
>>544765315yeah, pure ward without crests is ass
>>544765315>granjita in crestsI had this idea but then I went "that's kinda retarded me thinks"maybe it is the good play after all...
>>544762954Why is this deleted?
>>544766351Because it was embarrassing
>>544764404unless you're activating the ssba worse than medusa in most situations where medusa is good in the first place kekdoesn't do shit against barriers(norman/lyria/wamdus) or vira and hits your board
I need to drop something to make space for burn card in puppet deck. Like Puppet theather or Eudie Dropping remover like Puppet assault is definitely not an option.
>>544766592dropping puppet assault is definitely an option i havent seen that in any lists
>>544765315>open>2x sainto flashu>close
>Haven't lost a single match vs sword>Pretty much instant win vs dirt rune or Belial abyss>Wanmdus, dragon ramp and ward heaven fuck me overWeird rock paper scissors system
>>544766351deleted the same time as this >>544758909
>>544767260nyoticing...
>>544767098wish I could play this but I only have nigger leader
>>544764709raio's mainly there for the guaranteed board clear
>aggro and midrange abysshitters still playing the same deck for the third expansion holy shit play something else you fuckers
>>544768337No.
>>544725105>Artifact not even in the list
>>544768337My IQ isn't high enough for anything other than Cerberus autopilot decks.
will i regret crafting three of those green cats
>>544765434She could have been our leader instead of Belial
galleon fucker bros... this deck needs a lot less thinking than loot sword and its more so praying you get your boss monsters than anything
what a great start
>>544769497You're topaz with ward haven? Seriously?
Okay. Maybe Peppy Scout was not one of my better ideas. Back to standard Midrange Sword lol
Imagine maining Haven without having the Galleon leader
>>544768775yes
4pp 5/4 rush tutor 2 followers +1Skybound
>>544770226its a neutral.. who are we supposed to gang up on now?
this fucker is never leaving haven decks until he rotates isnt he
>>544769997didnt play second half of omen which had me as diamond as loot sword down to ruby and when i entered the new set i dropped from ruby into topaz then entered topaz -> emerald hell playing full ward since i got galleon leader and now only climbing with crest
>>544770134Aether > Galleon
>>544770342the worst case scenario is haven getting a better set/mechanic that dos damage way better that marwynn+crests is cut out the deck
>>544770338modethey can double the value of that card
>>544770104Forgot pic lol
>>544770342i think so yeah, hes going to be the wincon of every slow haven deck until hes out. if they print something else its gonna be a huge mess to balance
>>544770342The problem isn't even him at this point. It's that Wilbert and Grimnir are too good and since you are always going to use the two of them then there is no reason not to bring along Marwynn
>>544770458crest ward*
tenko waiting room
So this is the deck that has 90% winrate against dirt going second?
>>544770342Elana next set bwo
>>544770104Why play more board when you could instead storm face
>>544764337maybe they should give popular characters more focus then
>>544770956this doesn't look like rose queen
The numbers don't lie.
>>544771141What is it then? Ezudia? Honest question.
>>544770338>gang upon gilnelise
>>544771143dragon better than heaven?
>>544770342
>>544764828i don't like this because the tier 0 prediction was probably just spellboost raging but i have no way to know the truth
>>544771143I have all of the dirt cards and all of the loot cards but I havent played a single game where chests
>>544771143>waste 30k vials on haven crestward>it's tier 2>boring afvial refunds when
>>544771306More like Dragon has 4 GM and Haven has 11
>>544771291that would be my bet
>>544771363It was burn rune ragingAnyone with sv1 ptsd would understand
When you think you have a shit card just remember at least you aren't playing forest.
>>544770342Just make his crest last for 4 turns
Dirt is genuinely one of the most fun decks I've played in WB.
>>544771560Would need to remove the cant attack clause for this to make any sense and that'd kill the theme of repose
>>544771560>just make him unplayable
i think i'll just play aggro abyss to blitzkrieg the battle pass then craft 4 decks later
I have 2 weeks to craft a fucking sword deck before I get zeta but I need like 13k more vials.It's not doable, is it?
>>544771782doable with chests
>>544771782>Chest event soonYou have enough time, those events give tons of vials
whos this cute hebe?
>>544772083How many BP levels can you get from chest missions? 5?
and here i was thinking this is the best craft to do this play against. who the fuck is that
anyone have a aggro sword/abyss list for the chest event please?
>>544772195Captain Tsubasa
>you couldn't clear the Vira
>>544772195Probably the best card in portal
>>544772358>oguriversewho? oguri has eaten viras for fat sara for days me making a 20 hp sara means nothing
>drop aether>winfuck should i just mulligan for aether at this point, even without wilbert her effect is just too good
It's crazy how much duo unit shit they added but somehow Katalina and Vira managed to stay completely separate outside of having the same damage cap gimmick.
>>544772852I'll be back!
>>544754979The first set
>>544773264Roach got destroyed by face dragon in the first set. That's why face dragon was a thing at all.
>>544764141He's played for the board clear vs Haven. With benis gone you don't really go for the 20 dmg crest in Mode.
pretty sure aggro dragon was a thing because it's a braindead aggro deck lmao nobody gave a shit about some bugpedo with a victim complex
Current ward crest would be genuinely t0 if they didn't nerf benis
>>544773975current hybrid dont run benis, so was the previous hybrid
puppet is t0
Honestly, Evo Haven without crest or Aether is kinda fun. Thinking of cutting Wilbert and his ward friends, but there's not many cards worth their slot. Evo amulet maybe, but it feels like an empty deck slot that will brick your top deck.
Remember when she saved dragon?
>>544773975No? When would you even use benis? It would be just suicide most of the time as hybrid has barely any healing power.
aggro sword stopped working finally and im about to hit topaz after getting 80% of my points in diamond
>>544773096They maybe got rid of the person who just really wanted to ship them regardless of character development (KMR)
>>544774697When are they getting rid of the person who makes haven viable? This class should always be in the gutter otherwise the game SUCKS for everyone.
>Get Galleon leader from chest and decide to make a Haven deck>I have 5 Haven legendaries total from all setsI didn't realize how little I had until I tried to make a deck
>>544774810This but rune
>>544774819youre probably not gonna have fun if you start playing haven because of a leader
from the ratings it really does look like haven is bottom tier with forest and dragon lmao
>>544774925thats me with below 40% wr playing haven ever since i got galleon and dipped to emerald with a pure ward list but now moved to crest ward and now topaz!!
Crest haven was strong because it could actually deal damage to opponent. Ward haven is just a wall that gets cleared immediately.
>>544775276>Ward haven is just a wall that gets cleared immediately.Or you play aether and just auto win because the opponent didn't have an answer on hand.
Why does Rakesh constantly downplay how annoying Haven is to play against?
I really hate not having grim crest as first crest...
>>544775457That what I was talking about though, aether without wilbert is worthless too.
>>544775276i love seeing every wall get deleted by belial or that portal card or my massive bodies getting odin'd/wilna'd/oguri'd but im slowly getting more wins now with crest ward hybrid at least
Notice how these people bitch about haven but never post what deck they're using, curious. I bet it's some f2poor indian running the same agro abyss deck they've been using since set 1.
Seems balanced except for forest.
even sv1 heal haven couldn't heal as much as these wb decks
attention: para just removed 1 kuon from the deck.remove all of your kuons NOW to be ahead of the curve
I saw someone with Zeta leader already, how?
>>544776126money
>>544776126ultramegawhale buyíng battlepass levels
>jobberchan
>>544775990Forest is a fucking trainwreck right now
>>544776126Costs like 40 bucks or something.
>>544776323Cheaper than the 80 bucks pack that gives you a random (LMAO) dragon leader.
how does every loot I fight have 2 sinciro in hand for turn 6 7 but I can't find a single one even with two tablets on field
someone give me the best sandal bubs list
>>544776126You can get the 50 wins weekly cap with an alt in like 15 minutes, combine that with playing regularly, maybe a bit more, it's not hard.
ward is good if u pull galleons to ur hand and aether summons only units that can attack LMAO
>>544776685>aether board gets cleared next turnWhat do you do with that kiss monster then?
>>544776671its literally not possible to get it yet without paying
>>544775990Trump tariffs on roach tax........
>>544776671retardbro..
>>544776671This is the highest you can possibly get to right now without buying levels with money.
>dragoncuck plays wilnas on aether board>instantly concedes
>>544777010You get 20 levels from the premium pass and another ton from the weekly cap.
If you paid extra when you unlock the premium you get 20 levels cheaper than straight up buying levels later. Still costs money though.
>>544774267if it's not this set then it'll be the next one. dragon is hitting critical mass soon, but it'll be just right before the rotationzooey is a very oppressive card
>>544777435>zooey is a very oppressive card>set their life to 1>make sure you got wards down>win next turnDropping zooey is a free win or the OP
>>544777419The premium pass doesn't give you any levels. There's an option where you can buy the premium pass + pay extra to get more levels but again, that's just buying levels.
>>544777575She is really good against roach.
>>544777575because you are not supposed to drop zooey when you are winning, retard.>be at 2 life>drop zooey>game state is reset and you get an extra turnthink, THINKoh but you are a dragontard, my bad, you don't do that
>>544777746>>game state is reset
woops no searing light i guess i lose
>>544777880Yeah and there's also all the matches where you just win because you just played aether and that's it.
>>544777880
What the fuck is it about haven that I can almost never win when playing against them
>>544778226You're brown.
what if i started posting a screenshot of every game i brick too. every anon should do it actually
>>544718996tourneyanon here, it's almost time for our third tourney.if you'd like to participate, please leave your id here - https://forms.gle/kq8UgLyYKfETi2wh8 rules in the link as always. I'll also ask you to leave a tiny comment of whatever you want when you do so it's easier for me to sift through the list as I'm adding peoplethe tourney will be held 2 days from now on Sunday, November 2nd, at 6 PM UTC.
>>544778428Is this the quality of posting from havenfags?
>>544777880your salefa??
>>544778571Why aren't you posting how many people are signed up so far
>ramp at 5pp>lose
>>544778782The famous words of 1st and 2nd sets, home
>>544778571>>544778951currently we have 8 signups with 1 anon wishing to be a backup. I may do something a bit different with the brackets this time around and include a loser's bracket
>>544777746>game state is reset
https://x.com/eightzhuan/status/1984284623086764369Is this the best Rune list?
>>544777880ur salefa??
I've never had a game where having multiple Sandals was a beneficial decision.
>have to use 6 deck slots just so you wouldn't die to sword
I've had games where having multiple Sandals was a beneficial decision.
>>544779476>Dies anyway to Odin on your Wilbert turn
odin is breaking the game
>>544779293>No chalice for opposing ward haven>6 8ppToo heavy
>>544779629blame that broken piece of shit of wilbert for existing
>>544779948I blame everything, the game is all over the place at this point
>>544779629Oguri cap is unironically the only thing keeping the game honest
>>544779802It's only day 3 or so but yeah, pretty sure chalice will eventually be added back in. I feel like deck lists right now are extra greedy right now with minimal removal.
>>544779948Everything always circles back to haven being the issue doesn't it
https://x.com/toby_24ss/status/1984267984186351620
>>544780468yes. especially satan dclimb!
>stop playing sword>plummet from diamond to rubycan't make this shit up
>>544780598>20000 MPOkay now let's see the rate it peaks at
>>544780468Yep. They wouldn't have needed to print Valse if not for haven's 5/5 ward.
>>544780598how does this win
>>544780990win?
>>544780598god I hate these slow forest lists that top out at fucking 9ppjust make tempo good already you bastards
>Been maining garbage dirt since the beginning>Bottom tier forever>Tier 1 all of a suddenAfter seeing what haven players experienced last set, I don't want my deck to enter the spotlight. I think I would prefer to just be mid tier (low 2 - high 3) than constantly read seethe in this general.
>>544781180difference is dirt doesnt pack 15 board clears and 2pp heal 10 so it will never be as tiring to face
>>544779293>>544778082I'm running x2 cum chalice instead
>>544781323then you dont get to complain about losing to sword cmon
I unironically lost to pure crest as crestwarddouble aether rekt by double cumchalicefun
>>544778571>>544779150the tourney is missing a lot of people. so let's do this, danchou!
>>544781679fuck you
>>544779481I haven't craft the second(I have no vials and need 3rd octrice first for loota) sell me on it
i see salefa is still hard carrying haven since day 1
>>544781278If people are losing consistently to a deck, they will find something to be angry about.
>>544782273I don't know why they keep trying to remove it from their deck
>>544781180I have my doubts but I also have all the cards and haven't given it a test run
I LOST MY STRINGS... AND GAINED A HEART LET DOWN THEIR GUARD I WANT TO BE HEARD LET DOWN THEIR GU LET DOWN THEIR GUARD
>>544781084
>>544720446so haven was only allowed to be decent for one set? now it's back to unplayable?
>>544782328Dirt doesn't feel like there is much to be upset about. It's bigger player is sandal which is literally a neutral card.Also, there are things that are just fucking annoying and things that are strong. Shit like crest haven was both. So of course people are going to hate the shit out of it.
saving this for future usehttps://x.com/ev_lyp/status/1984100315847913618
anyone tried normal crest instead of the mix in this meta?
>>544782646anon that post was 13 hours ago, thats already outdated
>>544782006why are you being mean all of a sudden
>>544782764thanks babe i was looking for something like this
>>544782771Literally unplayable with the increase in storm, 4 health units, and benis being nerfed
Ward Haven is a deck only for the faggiest of prancing lala homosexuals.
people are going to start cutting liu feng
I play Wilbert, then Katarina, then ViraSurprisingly hard to remove for the opponent.
>>544783313Not unless they cut evo package first.
>>544783298Keep projecting, homo.
>>544783313Lolno
>>544782764Not even including Axia makes this look so soullessCaptcha: AX84DNo....
Engage to add dirt was a mistake.It's crazy how spell wasn't removed from the game with wb and dirt got a horrible addition. This class is why sv is a joke.
>>544783778I'd rather fight 20 dirt than 5 havens.
crafting haven was a fucking mistake, never ever againback to my runegoat
I think I might legit be a sapphire player... Go on without me bros...
>every deck running granjita and sandalphone
>>544784090Why did you craft so many Suframares
>>544781180To me personally, my least favorite thing about the game is mirrors. I hate playing high tier decks because so many of the games become mirrors. The only mirror I never truly hated was spellboost because you have like 3 different ways to win so the games stayed interesting and it wasn't entirely dependent on who goes first/second and who plays what on curve.
>>544784649Mirrors are the one true test of skill (over a long time) so you just hate thinking
>>544784649dirt mirrors in particular fucking suck>drop norman first>win>drop lilanthim first>win
>>544784196 >Every deck running dancho and coffee boyDid you really expect them to make either of them bad
>>544784649The reason I hate mirrors is because it always feels like I'm sitting there watching the opponent play cards that the RNG didn't give me. And when they play like 2 or 3 of the big important leggo and you didn't draw 1 (ONE) it's just such a trash experience I never fucking forget.
>>544784913This is also part of why I like decks that rely on sandals so much. He just comes to you. You're not sitting there with 45 faith waiting for shamu that never fucking shows up.
I just fought my first game with evolve abyss in emerald with the weirdest rune player ever.He has wamdus, dazzing knight, cagligostro, summon golem and the dirt package.
>>544784760>sword mirror>second play wins 80% of the time because they can get the first evo on zirconia and play albert firstNo, mirrors are often who goes first/second. Spellboost is the outlier because you can play well and get a Kuon burst on turn 9 going second to win the game despite the first player having the Satan+DClimb advantage. There's a lot of skillful lines in the Spellboost mirror, the Sword mirrors big play was "evolve a ward to cockblock Albert".
>>544785253Master?
Mode Evo Abyss vs Mid Evo Sword feels so dumb as a game....
>>544785256You're stuck in set 1 bro, loot mirrors are nothing like that
>>544785456Mode evo feels like such a slow deck. It has good matchups but I don't see it being good against the top dogs. Hell, if you play against a pure evo abyss you're probably getting belial'd pretty fast.
>>544785375He's master, only 1000 though
>>544784760why should i have to think in my gacha game
>>544785632Correct, that's what some people are saying for the pure Evo Abyss part. That same person however did consider the Ward Haven and Dirt Rune match ups favorable enough to consider it.But still, I have not seen Haven recently in Sapphire Masters 10k MP...
>>544775990Maybe the buffs in the month will be more impactful than last time.
>>544783502no onbviously notbut in wilnas ramp...
>>544785983*in a month
Haveneister status?
Dragon is fucking dogshit
>>544786383good
>>544782764Yep, I played some eggs and I can say for sure Axia is fucking trashZwei is surprisingly good though, sometime opponent just can't clear her and you're free to go face. This must be how runenigs feel like playing A&G
>>544785505It's fundamentally the same with most decks, going second still has the advantage because you can Albert first. The games don't always go to Albert but being on the evo is too strong for tempo based matches. IE: Coining Wilbert and Aether in Haven mirrors is still a massive gain. Also everything this anon said is true >>544784913 . When you're playing the same net decks, whoever draws the better power spike cards is at an advantage. If you draw Octrice on curve but your opponent doesn't, that's huge. If you draw Sham when you have 10 faith but the opponent doesn't, that's huge. If you evo Marwynn on your first evo turn but your opponent doesn't, that's huge, etc.
>>544786367>Haveneister
>>544786367so-so, how's granjita in crest?
Forest is in a permanently fucked state because it literally cannot high roll. The closest thing they have is turn 3 Amataz with 4 fairies in hand but even that can get easily removed. Forest cant maintain any kind of momentum they just try to slowly prepare for the late game while letting their opponent do the same
>>544786383It's good but this meta already sucks because I'm constantly playing against the same 3 decks and Haven is still not fun to play against even if you can do decently against it. I'm already done until the chest event hits.
>>544785983They're not going to buff anything if the meta stays this balanced.
>>544787553roach can otk you on 7 going 2nd you know.. you probably don't
>Forest didn't draw Titania and spend half of his hand trying to remove Vira. The attempt failed.
>>544786367Having fun with evoHaven. >>544788079Also, won vs evoabyss because Katarina saved the day with grimnir crest.
>>544786367Still Saphire
>>544788079wow good job havensis you beat a tier 4 deck
Im just plaiyng rose queen and getting freee wins vs rune lol
ward haven is tier 5 >>544720446
>>544788685attach a frog to your post next time
>>544788601This deck doesn't interest me and I wouldn't sell my soul for it
>>544788916hard control forest is the most boring thing imaginable
I'm not exaggerating, the last time I saw bishop was 13 (THIRTEEN) matches ago.Why don't people play it more? It's really strong and I usually lose to aether spam. I even put some oguri caps in my deck for wilbert.
>>544789806me play sword me storm face
>>544789806you stopped getting haven because you put in odin. remove the odins and your next game will probably be against haven
>>544782764It's artifact without Ralmia again, they will realize their mistake soon
>>544789806haven feels unwinnable for dirt but other decks like loot check it hard. you drop aether and get sinciro'd
It's amusing that now dragon is even better vs eggs. Steal half of them and odin others.
>>544790008Sinciro can't consistently clear Aether because they can get a full board of 10+hp wards
>>544789916kek
>>544790159Dragon is stealing eggs? No decency.
They really just gave Sword three storm cards this set and said "have fun". A lot of this set has filled the weaker gaps of so many decks and it's really nice to see game plans finally fully come together.
>>544790530What's the other storm aside from zeta & whatsherface?
nerf everything but sword
whats op right now I got 80k to spend should I go loot sword?
Just make SV3 already. This time without sword, rune or haven.
>>544790646Randall and the blue homo shota I forgot his name
https://x.com/eightzhuan/status/1984284623086764369
>>544790834Yeah go loot sword. Alternatively dirt rune is also doing well and honestly it's a very satisfying deck to use with not a lot of bullshit considering its biggest wincon is a neutral card.
>>544790958I love her body but her toddler voice and speech pattern is a bit of a turnoff. I'm a pedo but not THAT much of a pedo.
Twilight cant clear haven ward walls...It's time to ifrit I guess
>>544791250thanks
>>544790834puppet is good and cheap if you've played it before because the only change is bubs + neutralsloot is just as hard as ever though
I'm just gonna play pure crest and jerk to benison heals for 20minfuck you all in the ladder
>>544790958
I'm having so much fun with this deck.
>>544792436You are so skillful
>>544791250dirt rune list?
>>544790958Based as always
>>544792436your opponent is having more fun because he has a cuter skin
Wamdussy
>>544790958>>544793010too fat
>>544792436Why do people save coins for the next match?
>>544793146wambussy*
https://x.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1984302413763813672seems like KMR gives vtubers custom clients
Good afternoon, /svg/. Hopefully we'll all have a pleasant MP grind today. Happy Halloween!
>coin Norman double golem into norman double golem into norman double golemHow do you counter this? Wilbert can be banished but Norman straifht up can't be countered whatsoever
>>544793830kmr died bro...
>>544794474why do they have 6 crests to spare instead of it being used to stop your early game? did you not play anything?
>>544794307Y-you too..
>>544790958cn cucks
>>544794947>>544794947>>544794947>>544794947>>544794947
>>544794658I was ramping
>>544793273Sometimes I literally don't have anything to use coin on
>>544793830there's so many leaders that the rates are better. but the 6 dragons look like shit, they don't have custom evo effects on board and their animations don't have a background like the other leaders.they're lesser leaders that dilute your lucky box. they should have been bought with gold.
