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>News
MGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.html

READ THE LINKS CAREFULLY
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https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)
https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)
https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)

Innocent Rules has been fully translated
NEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmc
SHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKw
New MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_Wiki
New MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_Wiki
Japanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/
Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784

Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQ

You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/

You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:
https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zip

You can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:
https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/

Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):
https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jy

Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
https://pastebin.com/w87i82zP

ToroToro Resistance's blog:
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Previous Thread: >>544076568
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How many years was MGQP part II released? I played the previous game such a long time ago I barely remember that I was extremely frustrated that MC didn't bang the evil goddess.
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I feel like this is probably a stupid question, but should I not be having sex with every party member whenever they ask to in sequel blight?
I can't really tell if Tirma was being serious about being disappointed in how many of the other girls the mc's done it with so far when 1) I barely know anything about her and 2) she immediately follows it up with a paizuri scene.
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>almost 1 year since "MGQP part III has finally been released." was added to OP
>still no translation
Fuck every single motherfucker who knows Japanese browsing this general and aren't actively translating the game.
YOU FAT FILTHY BUNCH OF LAZY COCKSUCKERS
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>>544730009
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>>544730850
Because you've never worked on a team project at any point in life, school or professionally, where things always turn into a half-assed shitfest.

>>544730323
Part 2 was quite a long time ago.
Part 2 was about as big as Part 1.
Part 3 was about 5x as big as Part 1 and still isn't quite finished.
They ran into scope creep issues for sure.
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Vampire Girls
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>>544730850
Just learn nip.
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don't open, keep scrolling
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>>544730850
I learned because the translation was becoming pozzed.
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>>544731971
Would.
Just like in MGQ lore where they're inferior offshoots to succubi, they are for me an inferior draining girl but still good by me.
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>>544733010
Curiosity raped the man...
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New Jingai drawing.
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>>544740782
Oh hey it's a Harvin cosplaying as Vinum.
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>tits size
>become happy
>>544740782
>potato jingai
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>>544743308
>kanon anymore show boobs
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>>544743308
>ilias ancestor best
They know!!!
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>>544743801
>ilias' ancestor best
Yes
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Why does this thread keep giving connection error
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>>544743793
aside from showing how shitty a mother fat alice is does anyone even care about this character in an erotic way?
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Reminder that the divegrass roster poll is live!
>VOTE HERE
https://forms.gle/TF4xAqVL1JEbSN3E6
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Is it just images triggering this connection thing, the fuck is going on?
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>>544744805
delet this
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inddeed
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There's no way that an oppai loli succubus taking a nap could pose a threat to a true hero!

Yes, a little rest couldn't hurt....
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>>544747996
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>544747996
Venus Mantrap
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>>544743308
>become happy
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>>544744507
Koron does not make my penis tingle. She is the only Shiki besides Morrigan, who is an annoying flatty, to fail to excite me in some way
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>>544757857
>Men get all the presses they want
What do they mean by this? Seems sketchy.
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>>544758243
>Morrigan, who is an annoying flatty, to fail to excite me in some way
But what about her brattiness?
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>>544759776
You go there for boob pressess and then a futa takes off her pants and mate pressess your ass with her horsecock.
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>>544759776
Human face and succubus tits. Any other explanation isn't world happiness, it's just somebody's degeneracy.
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>>544758243
>Koron
>flatty
Are your eyes flat?
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>>544761530
Bro, your reading comprehension.
He said he didn't like Koron.
Then went on to libel poor Morrigan who also is not flat.
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Greetings. I am an angel.
I have come to bring salvation to this thread.
Please, do not resist the salvation.
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>>544762206
Shiki officially described Morrigan as "she's got some boobs". She's modest, but not flat.
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>>544733427
Could you explain what you mean by that it’s kind of worrying
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>>544764402
What Wormiel was probably supposed to look like, and not whatever blender monster we got.
I can see why Ilias was so jelly of her fat sister. Same eldritch horror gene material used, but one got a super cute Hiruko, the other got litteral worms.
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>>544767197
He's probably mad about Lucy and Mica
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>>544730850
I ain't about to go on discord to work under some strangers telling me what to do for what's going to be a whole year
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really, really, dumb autistic question. But would normies lope monster girl enthusiasts in with furries as dogfuckers because they are fucking things that arent humans
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>>544767287
One is also controlled and the other is left to do as she pleases
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>>544730850
>refuses to use manuel
Cope, faggot
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Halloween edition


Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf
Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u


The latest, Ilias by Coffeeslice: https://files.catbox.moe/55b0fv.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/v1xa4n.jpg

cute cuddling: https://files.catbox.moe/fzsp20.jpg
Eden Daughter: https://catbox.moe/c/1hsgsu
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>>544761530
You can recruit Koron already? Or is it with cheese?
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>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mQXfOT1lUiI
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>>544734515
>Just like in MGQ lore where they're inferior offshoots to succubi
The fact that MGQ vampires can just slide into and coexist with human civilization without any real issues once they get over their desire to be in charge, wheres MGQ succubi need their own little village that is an absolute fucking shit hole, means the vampires are superior to me.
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>>544740782
I like his potatoes but I despise Vinum.
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>>544768970
They won't find it furry because they associate furries with Carmelita Fox, Tony the Tiger and Lola Bunny. Normies can tell the difference between that and a mermaid or a cat girl, and xelvy abominations are hard to confuse with any of the furry characters I mentioned, even if they don't know the vocabulary.
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>>544768970
Who the fuck cares about what normalfag cattle think
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Since when did so many anons get their panties in a twist?
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>>544768970
>>544772783
I don't think most normies even know what a furry is to begin with. I doubt most of them would really look at you funny as long as you're not expressing interest in a Xelvy girl or something.
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Who should I use for my halloween team?
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We should just put ENGLISH TRANSLATION FINISHED in the op with a link to the most recent machine translation.

If they even realize they were tricked they will probably be too far into the game to care.

It would be better than the endless "translation???" posts and generate more discussion.
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>>544777971
Pumpkin girl, Zombie girl, ghost girl (shadow girl?), and some chimera for Frankenstein's monster stand-in.. you can use. But consider using..
Foxes.
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Puny humans are so sensitive they insta-cum from mere ear licking
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>>544780687
Foxes aren’t scary
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>>544777971
Team for Paradox? Or a different game?
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>>544781653
Paradox
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>>544777626
>I don't think most normies even know what a furry is to begin with.
Uh... bro... it's mainstream now... you've lived under a rock for how long?
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the collab scenario fucking sucks and was a mistake
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>>544784098
Kek it really aged terribly. From hype and avengers memes to anons asking if they can just fucking skip it.
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>>544784407
Peak of the series
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>>544784407
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>544784607
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>544784256
>Kek it really aged terribly
In hindsight it showed Part 3 was going to be about hyper powercreep. I mean Novissa is still one of the very few non Part 3 or MCs that is still technically top tier in the current postgame.
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>>544785059
Massive powercreep started even with part 2. 90% of the roster was either deliberately sabotaged or designed by an actual retard.
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>>544777971
>>544782023
I would suggest be the following:
>Your Favorite Girl (in her Halloween Costume of course!)
>Pumpkin the Jack-o'-Lantern Witch
>A Vampire Girl (I went with Bloody)
>A (Were)Wolf Girl (I went with Leila the Fenris)
>Alternatively, a Ghost or Zombie Girl of some sort
>Alternatively, replace one of the above with a Monster Girl who happens to be a good stand-in for a horror movie or Halloween Aesthetic of your choice (Mummy, Spider, Bat, etc)
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>>544785059
while conditionals are almost certainly the start of the snowball effect the collab was 100% where absurd levels of powercreep started to truly spiral out of control in an unavoidable way
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>>544785468
Back then characters like Cow Demon Queen, Levia, and Yamata no Orochi were rewards rather than story given. Outside them most of the roster was pretty balanced by something, Queens and Grangold had shit traits, and Black Alice and Eden don't really pop off that much until Sealed jobs kick in or grinded but they're route exclusives so them being a bit better was fine.
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>>544780687
>Oh, yeah, btw... FOXES
Gotcha!
No more posting for you.
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>>544786353
Can't forget Sphinx either; the reward for beating the superbosses being getting to recruit them was always fun.
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>>544761530
Conquer and breed with Koron you filthy human!
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>>544781010
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>>544798151
Why no bulge…
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>>544798381
Wrong werewolf, check ToA for the right one
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>>544798381
Lack of homosexuality.
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>>544798968
>visible abs
>Lack of homosexuality.
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>>544798151
When is a wolf girl, and actual werewolf girl?
Do we actually have any werewolf girl in the monster girl fandom?
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>>544799393
I mean, considering "Werewolves" as commonly depicted these days are merely just the in-between form next to "Man" and "Wolf", the Monster Girl version of a Werewolf is just the in-between form but with more cute human girl than savage wolf visible in it, so it would basically be a Human Girl who transforms into a beastial Monster Girl form.
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>>544799359
does anon hate women who work out? muscular girls can be hot too you know.
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>>544799393
Why do you want a girl who becomes wolf every full moon when you have girls who are always wolfs?
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>>544799393
I've used "werewolf" as a name in my project since it better fits the story, but in effect it's still just a wolf. There just isn't much difference between a werewolf and a wolf unless you want to have different shades of furry-ness on your monsters.

That being said, I'm certain there's some variant of werewolf girl out there that infects others with a bite. MGE already has infection/transformation for every monster, there might well be a story with your child friend turning into awolf girl or somehting like that.
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>>544801264
Not saying I prefer one or the other.
Just asking a question about the werewolf motif being properly used with MGs, and if there are actual werewolf girls in the fandom.
The 2hu that you posted is a pretty gross werewolf girl, since she turns super hairy under the full moon.
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>>544803551
TD has a werewolf girl who pretends to be a normal human and can transform into an actual werewolf, if that counts.
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>>544803551
What would you consider "properly using" a werewolf as a monster girl? It's difficult to frame transforming alone as a curse when the entire draw of the genre is the non-human characters, fear of spreading the curse doesn't work because people want the monster characters, and we both know how the animalistic instincts or hunger for human flesh would be treated.

First dumb idea off the top of my head is instead of a werewolf girl, use a were-"wolf girl". A comedic take where the male viewpoint character is cursed and he locks himself up at night not so that he doesn't kill, but so he doesn't have sex with a man.
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did part 3 add any cute muscle girls
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>>544808530
yes
Koron half counts since shiki makes her look soft but all of her story cgs make her look buff as hell
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>decide to move saves over to Part 3
>all enemies basically one-shot everyone outside Captain Shield
>Endure + Goddess Blessing is the only reason anybody is surviving battles
>need to bring Captain Shield into any boss fights to even have a chance of success
>Pot Mimic one-shots the entire team every attack and only Captain Shield using Clara / Bloodsucking can kill one
>even that fails when Captain Shield gets hit with Sparkle and stunned for too long
I'm beginning to think that Paradox difficulty is too much for a first-time Part 3 playthru.
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>>544810528
It's not even about Paradox difficulty, Part 3 in general went full retard with balancing and even on Very Hard a random encounter mob can wipe out most of your party in one go
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Imagine your mom looking like this
Poor Sonya…
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>>544810528
>pot mimic
You're not even at the point the game goes "just use Zion and Gnosis" in the evaluations (of course Ilias being racist she doesn't mention the Lilith sisters in the Alice route)
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>1st Anniversary of Paradox p3 since it's Nov 1st in Japan
I'd keep my eyes out for a blog post today
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>>544808530
Off the top of my head there's Shiva and great orc in the monster world and Sabiriel and Sun Wukong in the angelic dominion
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>>544810528
trtr drastically nerfed defense buffs in Part 3 by removing the damage reduction entirely and on top of that lowering the boost from 50% to 25%.
I am assuming this is what is causing your problem, because that one choice is honesty one of the dumbest things trtr did for how much it fucks up the entirety of the early game and demo area stuff since he did not rebalance anything with this change in mind at all and it shows.
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I’m unsure if I’ll be able to finish the other costume in time as this took longer than I thought so I just wanted to at least share Mini wearing a Pumpkin Costume.
The vision in my head was not perfectly translated, but I think she looks very cute anyways.
Hapy Halloween!
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>>544811560
I only really had this problem in the Chaos route on Hell mode. But I didn't have that much of a tough time in the Judgment route, and I didn't even use the clutch seraphs either.
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>>544814571
>problem
It's not a problem because the same applies to your enemies. It just makes for poor gameplay because either you win the fights end in one or two turn or you lose miserably. The defence nerf as other anon said completely obliterated any gameplay style other than cheesing barriers and damage multiplier stacking.
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>>544815008
Even without the DEF nerf, would most people even play defensively at all when it comes to overworld mooks? I can see playing the strategy when it comes to bosses, but trash mobs are something you want to clean as fast as possible.
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>>544814514
She looks good to me. Her smile is contagious.
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>>544815252
That's a frequent problem with JRPGs with random encounters in general, if the random mobs take more than 1-3 turns to clear everything turns into a miserable slog because of how many fights you need to do.
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>>544815252
If overworld mooks can almost wipe you immediately, then bosses can do the same even more so. What's worse is that you can also kill the bosses in one turn, so it's not even a matter of difficulty going up. It's just pisspoor balancing railroading you into one specific play style because trtr in his infinite wisdom decided to entrust minmaxing autists with playtesting and balanced the game around their style.
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>>544816002
I'm just saying that even if players had multiple viable strategies, the go to one for mooks, would always be to wipe them out within one turn.
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>>544808045
Nta, but I'd imagine a werewolf girl would normally be a regular human who transforms into a super horny wolf girl on the full moon. Rather than just having wolf ears and a tail, they'd probably have some body fur like Amara but not as friendly looking. Could have the curse spread through girl on girl sex which would probably only ever happen if a girl got in the way of one when they're going after a guy or if there was just a lack of dudes around to fuck.
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>>544816349
No, it's GARBAGE gameplay if mooks can fuck you up in one turn and you can fuck up bosses in one turn. The whole damn thing needs a complete rebalance.
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>>544815008
I don't think I ever actively used barriers against random encounters on my hell playthrough. They could definitely do serious damage and wipe within 2-3 turns if I wasn't careful, but having evasion, reflection, and/or shield counter abilities equipped was almost always enough to not get 1-turned.
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>>544816002
shit I'm not at that part of the game yet but if it does really just get stupid I might just slap the difficulty down and just coast, or is it still pretty stupid on lower difficulties too
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Are the talk skill jobs ever useful besides recruiting?
Dancing or singing seems to do the same but even more at all levels
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>>544824046
say, speaking of "things trtr probably didn't playtest properly":
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>>544824046
It becomes quite alright at Sealed jobs because they get a skill to do Double Action for the party and triple action for oneself. I say alright because the meta is one-turning...
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maybe i really do need to replay part 3 at some point just so i can try and understand why everyone else's experience is so different from mine, i swear i never ran into stuff like this
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>>544824295
>>544824453
So if I drag Lisa all the way into part 3 she’ll be decent?
Neat
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>>544824697
It's probably because I kept the difficulty at Paradox. I'm sure that with basic enemies no longer doing 5000 damage per hit, it wouldn't be as much of a problem.
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>>544825462
but i also beat the game on Paradox difficulty anon......
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Maybe I just always built my party members like shit, but at hell or higher random trash mobs doing way too much danage was a constant from the very start until the end. Part 3 wasn’t especially bad in this regard.
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>>544824046
You can... convince a death encounter to spare your life. But I guess thievery and ninjutsu can just escape as well. Well, I got nothing.
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>>544825648
That's probably the one thing that makes Part 3 easier than early Paradox. Earlygame you need to grind or be a Giant/Roid to tank, but in Chaos route you can just Daystar and Null and Counter.

>>544824697
Part 3 has two problems. Those who don't know the mechanics like Element Append/Composition and Conditional Damage then there's your favorite characters being a Mage and a Dragon where they're just bench material unless you want to drop 4 digits of damage or grind them to a point where Luka solos the game.
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>>544829963
>90 miles of Doppels.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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>>544831121
Its great for me
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>>544744684
Who's the daughteru?
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>>544835232
Undecided, could put it to another short vote if I can't come up with a good one
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>>544844806
>Hiruko is too stupid to realize everyone hates her too
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>>544845452
I think what's funny about it in particular is you could easily interpret what she says in a variety of ways, but all of them boil down to "Kanon wtf"
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>Prom herself feels bad for her and wants to fix her
>she just keeps refusing it because she just likes being like this
boy, that one anon's work on making her into a good girl is really cut out for him isn't it? I wish him the best of luck.
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>>544847043
It's your responsibility to pin her down so Prom can non-consensually scramble her brain. Are you a bad enough dude?
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>>544743793
Kanon is not the same as Koron...
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>>544782220
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>>544743308
>demon soul harpy
is it....recommending a video game to my wife?
I guess she could try it but I'm not sure how much she'd actually enjoy it.
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>>544781010
Bold thing for a fox to say.
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>>544814514
And Hapy Halloween to you!
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>>544803496
>awolf
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>>544847043
She just doesn't know what she's missing out on...
I'm sure she'd come around once she feels what it's like to feel happy about the simple things in life...
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>>544847976
>Kanon is not the same as Koron...
Well don't I just feel silly now.
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>>544782220
I'm sure the average twitter or reddit user or whatever is familiar with the concept of people being furries (not to be confused with furry characters), but I don't think the same applies to most people in real life that don't use the internet that much.
At the very least, most of the people I meet in real life are vaguely aware of these kinds of things at best, although that could be due to luck or the place I live just having more people like that.
If your definition of "normie" includes the average internet user then yeah, they're probably pretty likely to be familiar with the concept.
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>>544852820
I think most people under the age of 60 know what a furry is now, gramps.
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>>544852820
There was a thing in the US recently where apparently kids were being furries in school and asking for litterboxes in class and shit.
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>>544853147
As far as I know that was a parody news story.
BUT the fact that it's so believable really illustrates how bad things are.
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>>544852958
I-I'm not an old man...
I'm not...
Personally, I'd have pushed that limit down to being younger than 30-40 years old on average, based on what I've seen before. Not to say that a ton of people this old or older don't know about furries, of course, I just mean the average person you're likely to meet offline.

>>544853147
>>544853316
I'd be more surprised if something like this or worse hasn't happened before. Kids can be pretty fucking stupid when they feel like it since they don't understand how cringey some things can be yet.
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>>544853935
I'd say 40 is already the internet generation and thus knowers of furries.

And the news story as I read it was what the school decided to do it and was already doing so. Like accurate satire and parody, it hits that line where it comes off as plausible.
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>>544852958
iwtwm being taunted by a smug jk shikibus
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>>544856494
dried-fish-kun...
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>>544854758
>I'd say 40 is already the internet generation and thus knowers of furries.
I agree, but do keep in mind that most of those people probably started using the internet when it was still more uncommon. In my experience, older people don't tend to start using the internet more outside of using youtube or whatever so they're unlikely to know about any specific internet thing unless they saw some news story about furries causing another hazardous material incident in a hotel.

I'm kinda curious about what tiktok kids think of furries, assuming tiktok ever mentions them. I feel like you don't hear too many stories about furries doing something fucked up as you used to unless you're trying to look for them.
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>>544849536
>double_penetration
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>>544853147
Regrading that story, the school in question had class stock up on buckets + litterboxes for emergencies. In case of school shooting, kids could relieve themselves without endangering themselves or other people. People just ran with hoax story.
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>>544859161
Oh.
That makes sense, but is even more grim.
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>>544852958
Ah, Myu-chan... Sorry, I feel so sleepy...
I'll take a quick nap...
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ANNIVERSARY POST
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elf princess looks fire
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ALL BECOME CHI PA PA
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Huh, I guess this is what Alice looks like during the transformation process to become another White Rabbit.
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>>544864992
WTF?! Those artworks are quite good! Lady-like Sylph (hope the other OG spirits get something too), War God Elf Princess, and whatever the fuck happens to Alice?
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>>544864992
>10 paper volumes
>>544865103
it's yet another Daimyokai!
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>>544866310
I think, like I mentioned, is a Alice mid-transformation into a White Rabbit Clone. During the MW, Marcellus notes that the White Rabbit guiding is just a way for her to infect the local Monster Lord of a world with her cells. Turning them into another variant of herself and brining world to ruin via chaos when that occurs.

The Only reason it doesn't happen to S!Luka Alice is because the close proximity to Nuruko made her immune to such cells/stop them from functioning(IDK the exact details, but nuruko is the stated reason why she didn't turn)
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I kinda wish TRTR would wrap it up already and move onto a new game
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The end of part 1 is still the peak of the story, it’s all downhill from there.
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Love? What a stupid fantasy.
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>>544835232
>>544840119
Neris surely
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>>>/gif/29722066
>animated AIslop monstergirls
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>>544866797
Nuruko eats chaos, it's the same reason why Sonya didn't go apeshit sooner too.
>>544864992
>>544865103
>>544866148
Nuppe really showing off that he is the most talented artist in the series. I still think he kind of flubs the porn, but he even overshadows someone like KC with the sprite work.
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>>544871810
So are they showing us more alternate realities or is this just for funsies?
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>>544871291
that's the most likely candidate
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>>544874802
MTL, so take this with a grain of salt.
But, it says that these characters are going to appear in this pretty big LN TrTr is writing.
Big fairy looks to be a completely new character, since the game never indicates there is a AU where Sylph is king. Elf Princess there is from the AU where white fox/spider mommy is from. She apparently got off her lazy ass, and awakened her Angelmois genes through training, and became top dog when Ilias and Alice 1st nuked each other. Alice bunny looks to be from an AU where Marcellus failed to backstab her, and she went through chaosization.
On that note, TrTr seems to want to hide the MC of this LN or something using chaos speech for their name.
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>>544865103
I was wondering if we'd get that version of elf princess. If so, the final update might have more content than expected.
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>>544875580
While I do believe she is from that AU, we also can't ignore the idea that we could be looking at our Elf Princess, only no longer a Neet.
We could be looking at one of those "upgrades" TrTr was indicating for pre-part 3 characters, who have gotten tossed to the wayside do to the powercreep.
It could be the same for big Sylph too.
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>>544875550
anon...
that chaos speech is the name of the new route
it means "with chaos"
He always writes it like that.
>>544874802
characters we will see in ng++
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>>544877909
no, it means "with Eva"
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>>544865103
>random realistic human skeleton
This dumbass design is great
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>>544878792
I think its supposed to be a very famous youkai. Same thing with the purple spook there.
Kind of odd they are not MGs.
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>>544849536
Reminder Blue Archive corrupted this guy into becoming a femdom addict. If he wrote Senko nowadays she'd be a rapist
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>>544865192
Do not CHI PA PA here.
Not CHI PA PA area here.
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>>544879117
I think she is supposed to invoke the image of the Frog Princess from Japanese folklore. The pissed off daughter of a Japanese warlord that got executed, who summoned an army of youkai to attack the capital. The giant skelly was made famous by this story.
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>>544882772
aP aP ihC
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>>544890973
A new fairy friend!
It's time for a Chi Pa Party!
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>>544864992
>>544865103
>>544866148
>it's been a year already
where the fuck does the time go
MGQP is NEVER going to be finished
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>>544866808
would anyone play the new game i dunno if anyone talks about their older stuff ever like barely anyone talks about that tentacle book for boys thing they did and they only did cuz it was during part 3 devtime.
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>>544891819
Sorry Sylph, that was the last thing she said before she, and all the other artificial spirits died of energy depletion in the OG universe.
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>>544892069
what have you been doing all this time? finish mgqp anon it's your mission now
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>>544892476
i have beat part 3, but still, the game is not finished

>>544892223
>like barely anyone talks about that tentacle book for boys thing
because i hate tentacle garbage
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>>544892476
i've been holding off on finishing it because i don't want it to end...
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am bored so i was reading a fanfic about mgq(vn)xtotal warhammer how strong is promitheus and eden acutally because they job to Balthasar Gelt quite hard
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>>544892360
That's not very Chi Pa Pa...
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>>544892223
>that tentacle book for boys thing
i don't think those are monster girls, anon.
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>>544893289
Prom is a low class angel, who only is somewhat strong in the VN because of her science experiments. Eden is a weak baby compared to her sisters, and the other Archangels if we are talking about the AW version, but she is way above any other class of angel, and almost everything on the surface too, since B.Alice needed her out of the picture for her plan to eat Ilias to happen.
Gelt would not have been able to take on Eden, but probably could take Prom without issue as long as the White Rabbit formula isn't used.
>>544893340
Ilias paid for what she got, and she paid Prom really low for some shitty artificial monsters.
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>>544894070
am not talking about paradox am talking to the old visual novel prequel that come out before
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>>544894735
That is what I wrote? I just put the Archangels in there to clarify that Eden is a tier low to the highest class of angels, which has her sisters in it too.
TrTr said she is the peak to how strong Henrich was at the end of his adventure. And he tore through Heaven before he got holy poisoned, and killed the strongest ML in history.
So yeah, Eden is one of the strongest beings in the VN, and there are very few WH:F characters that would match her.
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>>544895526
so it the author wanking gelt because he just beat the shit out of prometheus then eden just dip to be fair he has his entire army and a morr priest with him so it not a very fair fight?
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>>544892932
My wife, Doppel, and her four sisters...
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I still don't quite understand why the white rabbit needs to make Alice into a white rabbit. Maybe I'll grasp it after reading the explanation for the 4th time.
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>>544898267
Singularity Alice was being beckoned to lead the MW's soul transfer plan, as a way for Luka to gather information on birthing Chaos during the Breaker route. She never intended to make her into another White Rabbit, it was all part of the wider plan.
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White Rabbit was a mistake.
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>>544897646
Anon, I'm sorry, but... your wife is a rapist...
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>>544901081
I consented to her and her sisters raping me
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>>544899196
I understand that's how things play out but what I'm trying to get at here is... let me put it this way.

what was his fucking problem?
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>>544901609
Look son, I'm helping!
But he actually wasn't.
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>>544901205
>he consented to rape
you can't do that
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>>544744684
voted!
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Going to do quick theorycrafts for the best lead (most likely end) parties for mono race challenges
>Human/Angel: Luka/Novissa/Lest/Marcellus or Luka/Lucifina/Micaela/Uriela/Zion
>Yoma: Alice route but then you do MW first for Alice 9 and random encounters
>demi-human: Guess who it's Dark Rondo can't think of anyone else notable
>Succubus: Actually good Part 1-2, Lilith sisters in AW Chaos route Alma Elma, Raphaela, Minagi, Lilith Origin
>Vampire: suffer until you get Samael or beat through overleveling
>Mermaid: Anko, Meia, Part 2 Mermaid Pirates and El, Part 3 has Monstro and Banshees
>Elf: either hard carried by bows and the strongest sword skill or does bad in chaos route Angolmois counters bows
>fairy: Spirits and Nuruko
>slime: Erubetie or Kanade self-destruct
>beast: Wrath, White Rabbit, Athena or Gate, Cerberus
>kitsune: Kitsu, Kamuro for part 1, then Daji until you get big Tamamo
>lamia: Shirohebi, Orochi part 2, then Azi Dahaka and Saja for chaos route
>scylla: Hiruko
>harpy: Saja, Alice 3, Tiamat, Reina
>dragon: Granberia, Tiamat, Bloody
>landdweller: Hiruko
>sea: Hiruko? or Monstro. In Part 1 abuse Time Warp Dance
>insect: Hiruko? They should be fine for Part 1
>alraune: Fused Prom counts, Kanon
>zombie: if you don't count Sariela dont
>ghost: Reaper, Sariela, Mimics to carry before chaos route
>doll: Shout, Kagetsumugi, Uriela, Adra
>chimera: Prom, Adra
>roid: Uriela
>apop: Samael and Tiamat cause Roid until you get Adra or Reaper
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>>544864992
>>544865103
>>544866148
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>544898267
It was how she fulfilled her function of seamlessly erasing worlds in a way that caused the least amount of problems
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>>544904782
on the Harpy side of things that's pretty good, but I'd nominate switching out one of the Alices (probably Alice III) for Archeopteryx.
really dislike tiamat and don't think she should count, but she's listed as one and android is android so there's not really much i can argue for there.......
>>544907306
STAND BACK LITTLE GIRL, THATS NOT SANTA THAT'S KRAMPUS!
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>design potato
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>>544907860
I uh, think you're in the wrong thread anon.....
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>>544907860
>doom
>quake
>gzdoom
wtf did I miss?
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>>544907860
>find old mods
>play quake
oh yeah, i remember really enjoying q3 mod with super-powers or something.. that was so long ago..

oh yeah,
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>>544907860
Join my Paradox server.
Name: Kitsune Klub
Password: spiderssuck
Survival
12 players
Hell
1 life only
Weapons respawn
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>>544909920
I need to find my copies of those older games, they don't make them like they used to. too many DLCs and microtransactions these days, and I can barely see out my peripheral vision half the time.
MH3's still fun every once in a while, but it's definitely where things fell off for that series.
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>>544907826
I want to eat her krampussy, if you know what I mean.
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>>544743308
>fox village
>fox worse
>Tamamo species
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how the heck do I beat hivemind
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>>544902750
>consented
Say what now?
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>>544913980
It's fine if the majority of the participants consent to it.
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>>544913823
Skillfully
Medicine to reapply status immunity, and I think you can Null and Counter Insect and Time Magic
You can reflect her guard kill then status her
Or brute force her with a glass cannon like most people
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>>544913823
She might be pretty bad when it comes to the Meta game, but Gabriella has White Magic priority, and endgame stats and levels.
She could carry you if the status effect shit keeps killing you.
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>>544913823
>>544914552
iirc you can null/counter her insect skills, but trying to stop her magic attacks will set her off.
Also don't use time magic against her either, it's a bad idea.
Beyond that it's not too hard to handle her, thankfully.
Use the Singing or Medicine Skills that remove the (status) Guard Kill Debuffs and apply All Status Immunities, as she has a random chance to reapply Mind Guard Kill at the start of every round. Use Doping to increase Max HP along with the Dancing/Singing/Shield Captain skills that will help reduce damage to let you absorb her hits more frequently. Target her weakness or create one with guard kill and taoism if you need to. Aim for combos. Don't try to rush her, that's going to get you killed in most calamity fights.

If you're feeling lucky enough, it's difficult but possible for you to reflect Mind Guard Kill back onto her when she tries to activate it at the start of the fight or any subsequent time afterwards. If you manage to pull it off, doing so will completely strip her of her own immunities to confusion and sleep for the remainder of the fight and the result is Hive Mind turning into a complete joke who you will effortlessly stunlock and steamroll into oblivion even if you aren't aiming to OHKO her.
considering what happens afterwards I'm genuinely convinced that this was actually the way trtr intended for players to beat her.

Good Luck anon!
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>>544909920
>spiderssuck
oh no, kitsu-chan...
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>>544909920
>>544916871
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>>544917963
the destroyer of part 1...
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>>544917963
Tamamo and Nanabi would have let the spider get away with it, since they adhered to nature's cruel laws. Kamuro would have had to be the one to get justice for the fox slushie formerly known as Kitsu.
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>>544918079
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My fear was now of another kind. I felt sure that the creature was what we called 'good,' but I wasn’t sure whether I liked 'goodness' so much as I had supposed. This is a very terrible experience. As long as what you are afraid of is something evil, you may still hope that the good may come to your rescue. But suppose you struggle through to the good and find that it is also dreadful?
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>>544924275
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
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>>544918561
would you guys go out of your way to find unwilling meals for your vorewife or try to wean her off vore altogether?
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>>544067452
>>544070702
Reminder Alice Alma and Tamamo (even if paygated) are still the most popular characters
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Looks like there's two different MTLs in the OP for Paradox part 3, is one of them better than the other?
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>>544937095
If you're talking about the two 3.04 versions, the Manuel Edition has some improvements over the BobMTL in terms of minor fixes to translations such as names and pronouns and other things like that, and some quality of life stuff.
There should be a version in the OP for 3.06 you can use to apply the translation to it but you'd have to patch it yourself.
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>>544941628
Doesn't the
>Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
already have the Manuel edits regarding names and pronouns? I'll go for that if so.
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>>544949467
I'm pretty sure yeah
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>Brazil is 183.3% influential over the Zulus
>hear this
The real prison...
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>>544865103
My WIFE
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>>544952875
What?
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>>544957606
Which line confused you?
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>>544958764
Yes
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>>544960269
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>>544952875
>Brazil is 183.3% influential over the Zulus
Huh?
Civ?
>The real prison...
Huh?
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>>544967215
Some people just say shit, bro. That or its like translated to to a completely unrelated language from their first language and then translated to english.
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>>544967215
Don't mind them, they're just a little bit more retarded than usual from all the times they've been dryfished.
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>>544972413
>I see....you deny your weapon it's purpose!
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>>544933104
cant see what you're referring to but i dont think that was something anyone would've contested anyways
i mean it should be kind of obvious you know
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>>544866148
I was really expecting to fight her like this on Illias' route considering she hadn't been around Nuruko the entire game, but it never ended up happening. I mean she'd probably have to die if you fought her like this, which would suck, but it is jarring to have it be hinted at and then just never happen. Not like judgement is a very happy ending for her anyways.
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>>544977641
Your 4chan extension?
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>>544980385
It’s as existent as a chubby priest-going childhood friend
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>>544978760
I still think luka was originally supposed to be the one who was getting turned into white rabbits and the Alice thing was just the excuse of her reinstigating the original adventure

I don’t really know how much better that would’ve actually been though, so it’s kind of a moot point.
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>>544743308
>ring tentacles
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>>544976190
>I see... you deny your pussy it's purpose!
>It yearns to bathe in the semen of your opponents... but you hold it back!
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>>544976190
>>544744684
Requesting a koro doro as a ball.
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>>544952875
Can I get Monmusu Civ 5...
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>>544988274
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>>544988274
Ah, so that's why angels are so lewd.
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>>544984408
I feel like it'd have been pretty much the same regardless of whether it was Alice or Luka who becomes the White Rabbit. The end result would still presumably be the production of a single white rabbit per universe except it may or may not have a dick in the case of it being Luka. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention during the explanation, but it honestly feels like a weird and even unnecessary plot point in general that only serves to make the character of white rabbit more complicated. I guess it did give Marcellus something to do though.
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>>544960269
>>544967215
Don't worry. It doesn't make much sense after all.
t. guy who said it.
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>>544988274
>elves are just wingless angels
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>>544996865
Don't insult elves like that...
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>>544988274
>>544988554
>>544996865
>>544999148
Elves are not...
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>>545000983
Elves are the masterminds of their own demise.
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slime get dissloving and begging for their life ho- hot!
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Chaos itself breeds countless rules.
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>>544976190
PERISH
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>>544988274
>>544988554
>>545000983
You'll have to take this up with the mayor of a non-lewd village of non-lewd Angels and Elves.
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>>544730009
>still no 3.06 Prepatched manuel Edition
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>>545009475
If downloading two different things is two much for you paradox won’t be fun
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>>545008064
In the VN, it was ambiguous if she was a virgin, since she was off limits in the hentai department. In Paradox, it was shown that she was a murder whore, that executed people in the past with her death pussy.
I don't know what to think.
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>>544985417
That's possible, although I might better pictures of her
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>>545008064
She'll have to take this up with my penis who thinks that her body and outfit are super lewd.
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Advanced jobs should have unlocked way earlier. Most of part 2 is just maxing random shit on every character to not waste job exp.
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>>545009475
>manuel
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>>545016945
Puto!
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>>545020706
You can't into spanish
It would be La Sylphita
El and -o are male
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is it a guilty pleasure to just read fic that every shiki suc get brutally murder
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is it a guilty pleasure to just read fic that every shiki suc loses to penis and becomes a loving mother
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>>545019326
I find it funny that these chicks are emulating the human culture of the MW, and isn't some trend monsters came up with themselves.
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is it a guilty pleasure to just read fic that every shikibus always wins in the end and everyone else gets dryfished
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>>545021558
That's a male, though. Look at the mustache.
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>>545016916
I think it's fine. It lets you level up side jobs like Pirate, Sage, or King, and with how Part 3 handled Sealed jobs it's better that you get everything almost at the same time near the end.
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The best predators eat you alive, they don't kill you.
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>>545011459
>executed people in the past with her death pussy
I feel like that's just for the h-scene. I mean how high ranking of a sinner would you have to be to get personally executed by the commander of heaven's army rather than some random valkyrie?
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>>545036878
The *best* predators savor you little by little every night (and whenever you want) for 40+ years of your happy marriage.
When I tried to write "for", I somehow wrote "fox" and had to correct it wtf
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>>545038550
It's terminal...
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>>545011663
There's only one pic of the doro koro but it shoudln't be too hard to make it into a 3d model slapped onto a ball skeleton.
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>>545045929
KILL IT WITH FIRE
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I noticed her crab eyes and the little hairclips she has make a little crab face in her hair, but making her face has made me realize that when you take her little mandibles her entire head kind of looks like it's own little miniature crab. Cute.
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>>544744684
Hey guys, just posting to point out the divegrass team poll is open in case anyone missed it. It's most likely closing by early tomorrow, so get your votes in while you can!

Have more cute sex foxes meanwhile.
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>>545059249
Bratty kitsunes need correction
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gooning here and gooning there... he was gooning everywhere... he was gooning in a box.. he was gooning with a fox... he was gooning at the store... he was even gooning when they took him to court... he was gooning in the jail... now hes gooning out in heaven...
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>>545049149
cute
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>>544987452
when I said that I was thinking "put wedding ring on a girl's tentacle" and not, well, that.
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>>545054450
She has sad little eyes.
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>>545080698
I think that's part of why I find her cute to be honest, now that you've pointed it out. She can make herself become the size of a house on demand and is nigh invulnerable, yet she's always got such a timid look on her face because she's just so stressed and nervous and it makes me want to give her a hug to make her feel better. I just want to protect her. Now that I think of it maybe that's part of why I found Charis endearing too, since she's also very much like that, except instead of passing out from sheer anxiety she just can't control her petrification abilities and unintentionally turns everyone around her to stone when she's startled.
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>>545073458
>>545073458
An anon here made it for me, I think him every time I see it
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>>545089060
Yeh, he made one with gnome and lime too right? They’re pretty good.
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>>545090453
Yes he did
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>>545049149
I still don't get how the slime sword works.
I thought it was sticking out of their arm as an extra appendage, but the super clones hold the thing like it was just another tool.
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>>545096116
It’s literally just a sword with a fleshlight for a blade
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>>545099036
It is weird how they wield some random animal as a weapon.
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Is there any way to do a snake monster girl without being a bog standard lamia
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>>545100364
Lizard girl with a long neck.
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is there any way to do a nice looking snake monster girl without being a bog standard lamia
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>>545101424
lizard girl with a long neck but she's wearing makeup
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>>545101424
Our beloved heroine, Amira.
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>>545101424
Thomas' snake lady, like a literal snake, but with a human head.
That, or just have a regular human woman, but with her limbs are snakes, or MGQ Medusa, where her hair is snakes.
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>>545096116
Pretty sure it's a worm that's just being used like a sword. Like what worm summoners and dark elves have integrated into their bodies except in the doppels' case it's not integrated.
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>>545101424
Medusa snake hair with snake tongue/eyes/fang and your choice of scales.
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>>545101424
If a medusa isn't your thing, you could also probably get away with just giving a chick snake eyes, a snake tongue, fangs, some scaled arms and legs, possibly a tail while also keeping the legs, make her super flexible, and then call her a snake kin or something like that.
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>>545102967
i just feel trapped because i already have 2 other different lamias, i came up with a fenrir and hel, but now i need a jormungandr, but i don't want there to be a weird bias with tons of snake girls running around, but there's no mythology to go off of other than BIG SNAKE (and i already used aquatic elements on the others)
so gorgon doesnt work, anything plainer feels half-assed, and anything more extravagant falls too far away from the reference
digging your own imaginary holes yadda yadda
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>>545100364
>>545101424
Does this count?
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>>545103541
three lamias is fine, i think only four or more would start to have bias signs. also there really isn't a better way to do Jorm. I drew my own Jorm Monster Girl, but she's very much a grandoise aquatic draconic lamia with a crown made of horns. I can't really think of a more appropriate way to do her.
The one in MQG looks really messed up in a chaos apostosized way to the point I'm almost of the belief she was supposed to have been an apostosis/chaos-enemy or something because she looks ridiculously out of place in the MW.
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>>545103541
I don't understand. Hel and Fenrir aren't snakes and don't have aquatic traits. Cerberus does sometimes have snakes for tails, but Fenrir's just a big ass wolf and Hel's a patchy blue chick. Jormungandr's wiki page does say he disguises himself as a cat at one point though...
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Is Threshold still stalling the development of MGD until he can make more content for his gaslighting foxwife? Or has he found a different excuse for barely adding any content since 2021? I can't even recall the last sex scene written by him and not one of his discord mods
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>>545105002
anon I think you may be connecting parts of the post that aren't supposed to be connected.
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>>545105002
anon he's saying he's committed to adding Jormangandr because he has a Fenrir and Hel but doesn't want to make Jorm "just" a lamia, not that Fenrir and Hel are also lamias
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fenrir lamia...
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>>545105237
>>545105535
Oh... But Jormungandr's selling point is literally just a big ass snake though. One that can apparently disguise himself as a cat.
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>>545105921
Well I agree he's literally the World Serpent, that's why I made >>545103791 about how you can't really try to do Jorm as a Monster Girl in any way other than "big long ass lamia" because it's quintessentially what Jorm is and attempting to deviate from this in any way shape or form will just make something that doesn't really feel like Jorm.

And I say that because MMTD made a "Sea Serpent" that ISN'T a fucking lamia for some godforsaken reason and it genuinely bothers me for how much better that girl would've looked if she was just an actual lamia; in general TD keeps making snake monsters into not-actually-lamias and they always look worse off because they feel or look incredibly odd because of how unattached or unfit the snake parts are on their bodies. One of them (the Melusine) doesn't even have her tail aligned perpendicular to her body, it's just floating behind her! There are only three Lamias in that game excluding Alice the 16th, and one of those three can't be obtained normally, so you are stuck with the default Lamia and the Minotaur-Lamia (and to be fair the Minotaur Lamia is pretty dang fantastic but still).
Literally the only Not-Actually-A-Lamia Snake Monster Girl who looks good in TD is the Hydra Girl. Which to be fair to her I think she looks cool as hell. But I don't think that approach would work for Jormangandr.

tl;dr sometimes a snake girl should just be a Lamia and making a Lamia just fits snake monster girls the best for a reason.
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>>545106730
I've been wondering this for a while, but what's TD?
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>>545106872
Monster Musume TD is a game where you befriend Monster Girls on an island and fight off other monsters or humans trying to hunt them. TD just stands for Tower Defense, because it's a tower defense game, with tower defense festivals. however, apparently acknowledging this in-universe causes reality to intervene and mind wipe you back to default settings.

MMTD has had three collaborations with Monster Girl Quest, which is almost certainly the only reason it has any presence in this general. It was only after the third one that it's presence has stuck around though, as prior to that it generally faded out after the collabs were done. The game had a rough start (narratively), but after that early point, it became quite comfy and fun. A lot of the girls are good, but it's just not very great with snake girls, and many of the girls look very vanilla compared to MGQ.
It's pretty enjoyable honestly, and I think it's relaxing (and also just pretty funny in a similar character interaction way that the pocket castle conversations are). Plus it's something to help fill in the time between however long the next update for Paradox will be nevermind the LOC or novel's release.
i'm still never going to spend money on it though. but thankfully it's perfectly fine as it is free.
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>>545107978
Thanks anon, I'll try it out.
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>>545106021
CoC 1 and CoC2
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>>545108686
There's no good horse pussy in either game.
>But what about...
I said good horse pussy.
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>>545108480
You're welcome, but just be careful, some of the early campaign h-scenes (honestly most of the main story h-scenes) are honestly pretty bad, and I think at least one anon went in and got turned off of it from that.

Thankfully you can either skip them or play on a version without them though, and you don't lose anything from ignoring them. Besides that point, it's generally been surprisingly good and comfy, and the h-scenes for each individual Monster Girl in their own little personal stories range from "pretty good" to "bed creaking PLAP PLAP PLAP level sex".
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>>545108480
there's a thread for it in /vmg/ if you need help; hope you find a girl you like either way
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>>545101550
She needs to get what she deserves......it isn't fair!
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>>545059249
>Ilias wants you to believe that these cutie-patootsies are vile rapists
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>>545111521
in training*
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>>545111772
Makes me really wish we eventually get to see them and the loli-succ trio aged up like the bandits and mini. They'd probably be super cute and strong.
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>>545112720
Why would you want them downgraded like that?
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>>545112756
Sorry, my adult woman fetish slips out from time to time.
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>>545113036
>adult woman fetish
????????????????
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>>545113176
Yeah. Got a problem with that, rookie hero?
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>>545113036
Disgusting
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>>545113176
Specifically onee-sans, but I appreciate most types.
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>>545113923 (me)
Except mesugaki. Bratty onee-sans are fine though. Delinquent onee-sans as well. Miranda was a mainstay in my party throughout part 1 and 2.
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>>545106021
TiTS has a few of them along with some non-horse taurs.

It's probably safe to say that Monster Girl 1,000 has at least one, but I haven't actually played it. I think the dev also made a bipedal MLP porn game too at some point. That's technically horse pussy.

The only other thing I personally know of is Tales of Androgyny. That games about a femboy getting a lot of futa dicks up his butt though.

Is it just me or are spider girls noticeably more common than horse girls?
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>>545114506
mesugakis and lolibabas are the only acceptable lolis
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I need more monster girl games that heavily feature slime and or ghost girls...
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>>545114951
>slime
Good taste!
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>>545115051
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>>545114849
I can accept lolibabas and probably wouldn't mind being teased by one. I just find mesugakis annoying for some reason.
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>>545114506
What's the point of living if you don't have a bratty but kind mesugaki to pamper you?
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>>545115247
And then the bratty Shota was taught a lesson.
Happy End.
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>>545115463
>but kind
They're okay if they've got a heart of gold.
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>>545115463
>bratty but kind mesugaki
Do you mean
>bullies you, but pampers your penis
or
>pampers you but bullies your penis
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>>545117636
The character he posted is more like
>Bullies you for having messy hair, does it for you instead
>Bullies you for forgetting your lunch, reveals she made you one
>Bullies you for relying on her, lovingly does whatever you need her to while teasing
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>>545118508
And anons are confused why I like onee-sans?
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>>545118692
Yeah she acts like one while just being a brat/teasing about it, hence bratty but kind mesugaki. That's why it was popular to draw her as a mom doing chores/stuff for you for a while.
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Can my mesugaki be all brat and no chill?
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>>545118508
this is very silly
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>>545118508
I love milfs

>>545118692
The ones you like are expired
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>>545105094
Kotone hasn't been the focus in years. The last big content dump was Venefica, and she hasn't been the main focus at least since the labyrinth came out.
Threshold actually made a scene for Trisha a year ago, out of nowhere.
>>545108778
Edryn could've been good, but like most characters in that game she's seriously lacking in content.
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I was thinking about finally getting around to playing paradox, or maybe give another go at the OG after all these years. Anything I should know? Also are all the links in the OP dead or what?
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>>545122126
Nevermind the latter part I'm a fucking idiot.
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>>545119403
>The ones you like are expired
Every loli will eventually become a mature woman.
I'm sorry, Anon, but that's just how the world works.
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>>545103541
I've had the same issue and prototyped various snakes. Feel free to take any ideas that you like. I can post the list after work, but what I can remember right now:

>Jormugandr
Big buff lamia dude made out of stone with multiple arms.

>Fafnir
White and gold triceratops-lamia with floating golden rings

>Gluhschwanz
German fire moth snake.

>Asclepius
Lamia with feathered wings at the hip.

>Ryu
Floating lamia with antlers and Japanese clothes.

>Yaldabaoth
Lamia with lion ears and paws, has a black halo.

>Hermanubis
(From rod of Hermes) Conventional Anubis girl but with slit pupils, fangs and scales. Clothes in two winged serpents.

>>545103791
>three lamias is fine, i think only four or more would start to have bias signs.
He, I did statistics yesterday and I have something like:
>8 dogs
>8 cats
>5 foxes
>8 horses

And so forth. I hope in the end it will be clear that there are distinct families rather than one type being overrepresented. Had to make bolster the aquatic family yesterday with a tiger shark, sea dragon slug and jellyfish. Still need to find mythological counterparts.
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>>545122756
It's a good thing we can always make more!
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>throwing away their wife as soon as she comes of age
do lolifags really
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>>545037267
you are correct, Micaela is a virgin but she knows she has a death pussy probably because IIias told her she had one, both sisters had very little contact with humans and given how IIias herself is with her daughters you really think she'd dirty them with humans let alone bully one when she had distain for humanity and twisted love for them? Lucifina got it on with Marcellus after stalking him, Micalea is characterized as a cat lady in the VN and a little bit in her RPG with the sole exception being she's totally down to fuck her nephew even if it's just for pleasure. You can tell she's extremely inexperienced in actual sex through that scene because of how awkwardly she's trying to hold back from turning Luka into dried fish, if we're talking about the angel world version of her, her doing death by death pussy is probably her way of killing Luka more gently than violently, she's stoned faced through the entire thing like a true iron maiden.

then you look at her younger counterpart and she's feeling pleasure, she's sadistically enjoying it almost like a cupid.

I feel like if Micaela tries to go back to the village and they start wanting to be more open to the world her villagers there are gonna try and get her laid.
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>>545132340
Have you guys heard of a russian creature called an opletai?
It's not exactly a snake, but it's a long thing with one leg and one arm that drops down from trees to constrict people and suck their blood. The interesting thing is that they're somewhat harmless on their own, only becoming truly dangerous when two of them combine where they can apparently run as fast as a horse.
It would probably take some work to turn it into a proper lamia, but I feel like there's some potential there.

>Still need to find mythological counterparts
Have you tried checking American mythology for inspiration yet? The Aztec Xolotl and axolotls could be a good fit for the aquatic family, for example. Cryptids like jackalopes and chupacabra might work well as a twist on normal rabbits and reptiles too.
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You know, if it weren't for shotgun wedddings, being drained to death or becoming mindbroken, whatk inda girl would Luka as we know him be into romantically and want to have sex with?

Naturally I'm talking about paradox Luka since ignoring the cross over event he's a virgin until he gives himself over to Hild to let Chaos be conceived, any other notions of plapping such as requests , bad ends and precieved ones like in setsouchi's little doujins are non canon to the TrTr plot. I wonder since the LN is gonna be lunar and TrTr has to characterize Luka's eternal thoughts more as well as his interactions with his party, this may be our first look at whose canonly with him during some of these campaigns, too. will he finally show us what paradox Luka is into and what he looks for in a partner?
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>>545134697
Luka had a thing for big sister types and teasing femdom iirc
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>>544744684
Poll is closing in just over an hour, anyone who still hasn't voted and wants now is the time!
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>>545134697
This one.

But nah he's too much of a kind of First Come First Married doormat, so Sonia wins.
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>>545136483
>First Cum First Married
This.
He'd marry the first girl to make him cum.
Because he's a good boy who would take responsibility.
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>>545134352
>The interesting thing is that they're somewhat harmless on their own,
That Victim's arms are bigger than both of my and he's having problems. I would be dead

>>545135121
It wouldn't let me vote
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>>545137037
Weird, it's still open. Did you give a response to the chi~pa~pa model question? It's mandatory.
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>>545137302
I did and even double checked my choices to make sure I only picked the number needed
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>>545137610
I turned off required responses, see if it works now.
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>>545137852
It worked now, thanks
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>snake fox harpy
When did these insults become compliments?
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>>545138134
They didn't, except maybe harpy
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>>545138521
Isn't calling a woman foxy a compliment?
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>>545139813
Yes, but also calling someone sly as a fox can go either way, same with being called a snake
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>>545138521
>as cuddly as a snake
>as motherly as a fox
>as loving as a harpy
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>>545138521
Harpies aren’t the only good girls, even if they are my favorite girls.
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>>545140109
Never heard any of those terms used in a good way
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>>545138048
arigato for your support

you were putting 24 instead of 23 dummy
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>>545141268
I don't know, maybe I did. But I counted before I did. This is probably how a fox would get me if I managed to fight her off before the third time
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>>545142180
You put in place protection against 24 foxes, but it turned out there were actually 25!
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>>545143062
I was thinking more about the cumming thing where she gas lights me into saying I came three times when I didn't even do one
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>>545143062
I can't beat her.
But they can.
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Human boys literally see a cute girl and think "A predator..."
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The monster girl community really took some hits recently, huh?
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>>545156321
Yeah, KC announcing his retirement, and erasing his presence on social media, really dampened the whole fandom. His game is now good as dead.
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>>545156569
wait what, that happened?
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>>545156641
Anon's fucking with you, he literally released a new encyclopedia entry today behind his paywalls.
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>>545157467
what'd that other anon mean by hits to the community, then? I haven't heard of anything.
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>>545157467
>he literally released a new encyclopedia entry today behind his paywalls
>behind his paywalls
What a sad person he became
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>>545157558
I meant the population and posting activity hit since the hack. I just didn't want to come out and say it so plainly since I'm not sure if it's a touchy subject.
>>545156569
>MGE out of nowhere
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>>545160234
Monster girls as a distinct fandom have been pretty much dead in general, at best we just kind of have random isekai to look forward to
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>>545157824
He used to release them early in a print volume you had to buy at comiket and then slowly upload them online months or even a year+ later. This is just a new method of doing the same thing, nothing has really changed.
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>>545160234
>>545160331
Yeah, it's hard to have a particularly active community when the thing your community is built around barely exists.
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>>545160234
>MGE out of nowhere
There is this weird group of schizos who sit in monster girl places on imageboards and spend more time lamenting about the fandom being supposedly dead than actually talking about monster girls. Coincidentally they are also the ones who just can't stop fucking seething about their Japanese autist arch-nemesis.
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>>545160234
>>545160331
I honest agree it’s partially due to the hack, as there’s been a pretty noticeable slowdown of the generals (not just on this board I’ve noticed it elsewhere too) since it happened. I think the other partial cause still remains anons who do not want to play MTL or raw and are continuing to wait for the ‘official’ full translation to be completed, and only occasionally check in to see how much progress has been made. Anyone who left from the hack probably migrated over to capy and didn’t come back. The anons who were invested in powermaxxing their teams for the postgame also seemed to have gradually left once it became abundantly clear that they basically removed every challenge from any battle for themselves and had nothing left to do but endless seal grinding since combat just became stagnant. This is why anons have started to just discuss other games in the meantime, though MGQ remains the heart and soul of Monster Girl Games everywhere.

Just wait for trtr’s novel bros trust the plan
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at the very least I think I found where the guy who waifu'd Sariela prior to Part 3's release and made those canon save file ended up (capy)
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>>545165323
It ain't him. The Sariela anon would had posted a build for every single character.
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>>545165323
I wonder what he thought about his waifus' guillotine pussy. Her scene is almost Gnosis level scary.
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>>545164656
Monster Girl Quest will always be the epitome of monster girl games, no matter how the balance is broken or how much it fades from public consciousness. trtr's effort to bring his world to life deserves to be remembered, and he has multiple artists who love working with his characters and can make a living just doing commissions of them.
MGE will always be the face of Monster Girls as long as people keep copying Hellhound's design and using KCE's art without even knowing where it comes from, but the face of Monster Girl Gaming is MGQ
Though discussing other games is debatable. Monmusu TD is the only one I see getting discussion. I do wonder how much of it is people having already played all there is, how much it's them not wanting to try new things, and how much it's anons not bothering to talk about any game because they assume nobody will want to read about it.
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Evening /mggg/, the divegrass roster results have been collected and it turns out we have a FIVE way tie for the three silver medal slots. Medal players get higher stats than the rest of the team, so play every match. I'm going to run a quick tie-breaker tonight to decide who out of the five should get the slots.

You can vote HERE:
https://forms.gle/Gpc5yR3y6jCZ6NvB9
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>>545166543
I still see stuff for shrift, sequel, succ prison, that wonderland game and a few others i dont really know much about besides td, but I'd still agree with you that the discussions aren't really compairable to everything surrounding MGQ, and for good reason since I agree MGQ is simply irreplicable and incredibly full of life. Paradox is just a wonderful experience, even if you use as much cheese as possible. Helps you can easily have a balanced time even on harder difficulties too. Just such a great game.
>>545167098
Nice, thanks for the update anon!
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Sylph and Tamamo are the golds again. Seems like a safe bet.
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>>545164145
Here, take this catgirl.
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>>545167975
I fucking love how you immediately felt called out, you are truly a special retard I give you that.
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>>545168772
Might as well lean into it. Not like I really care.
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>>545167975
>still hasn't added the tail
anon, come'on now
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>>545134352
>Have you tried checking American mythology for inspiration yet?
Looked into it briefly and already got what fits my criteria. I've set myself some very strict guidelines on what can be a monster, and for many cultures there just isn't much material (available in English) that fits. When I get desperate I just grab, but I've had no problems finding creatures so far.

>>545103541
>>545132340
Here's the full list, you should be able to find all the myths on wikipedia. I've cut the ones where the design doesn't have direct links to the myth, I think you can combine multiple animals or elements on your own.
Assume your usual lamia with extra traits. Haven't drawn most of them, but could provide (garbage) AI references.

>Low Tier
Cerastes: +big ram horns
Asclepius: low feathered wings, crown horns, halo, scaled arms
Lindworm: horns, scaled arms, claws, head fins
Tatzelwurm: fluffy, cat ears(think bunyip from MGE)
Cockatrice: feathered arms

>Mid Tier
Grootslang: black skin, giant tusk earrings, very big elf ears, lots of jewelry
Cetus: starry-sky skin, floating
Gluhschwanz: Moth wings, antennae, flame on tip of tail
Melusine: demon wings, demon horns, pointy ears
Ryu: floating, antlers
Coatl: harpy wings

>high tier
Hermanubis: MGE Anubis + fangs, slit pupils, covered in winged snakes
Shinkoo: Fox-ryu
Fafnir: three horns, multiple floating golden rings
Yaldabaoth: lion ears, fluffly arms, black halo, horns over cheeks
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>>545178220
I'm surprised you made the Cockatrice a Lamia and not a Harpy with some snake traits, rather than using the Basilisk for a Snake with some bird traits.
Although granted the two are still pretty connected, so I can see it.
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>>545167098
>missed rooster vote
Can we check the results somewhere or we wait for the announcement?
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Why does Paradox have zero cool elves?
How do you make elves so lame…
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Elves are lame
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>>545183696
thoughts on >>544865103?
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>>545183262
results tomorrow after tiebreaker

I could also briefly reopen the poll for you if you want, I'll weigh your votes against current results to see what might change and go from there
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>>545185324
That would be awesome if it won't trouble you.
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>>545183696
Monster girl H-games are in serious lack of cool elves.
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>>545185948
ok, opened it for you. No rush.

https://forms.gle/hyrumFY6V8yxyGDAA
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>>545186401
Voted, thx.
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>>545183696
Because ALL modern interpretations of elves are just parody of elves. They're a joke of a fantasy race now.
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>>545187107
You're welcome, this isn't possible without any of you after all. Did you already vote in the tiebreaker before this, out of curiosity?
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>>545183696
Paradox really upped the Elf representation though. In the VN, you just had a palette swap, a ugly tentacle bitch, and the Queen with a Kermit the frog mouth.
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>>545188394
yep
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>>545182000
I didn't actually. A bunch of those entries are just normal lizards/dragons in my project, I just figured that didn't matter for that anon and he can apply the lamia torso as he wants.
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>>545188394
Voted for Illias, Alice and Luka if it is relevant.
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>>545188758
Nah I was just checking his specifically.

Anywho, I'll stop clogging up the thread now. I'll get back with your guys with the results tomorrow!
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>>545189039
If Tamamo turns into Tamamo Ball and enters the goal, does it count as a point for her team?
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>>545188674
oh
neat!
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>>545196295
cute, would hug
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>>545202132
Does she have any porn?
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>>545202132
something about this witch screams shotacon
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>>545209852
Not to my knowledge the artist did that one piece

>>545210253
You are the shota to her, you're only 30 whiles shes almost 300
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>>545210443
Are you in my walls?
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>>545183696
We got some cool ones like Fernandez and Gekka.
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I want a mandragora girl to whisper sweet honey right into my ears.
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>>545185324
>tiny imp
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>>545218085
but wouldn't the honey she poured in just deafen you?
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>>544743308
>girl girls
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>>545210443
If shota and loli were about age, we wouldn't have girls like Vinum and Tamamo.
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Hakunen and Kazuya both ranked pretty well for a guy in their respective games' official polls, what about Luka?
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>>545239729
https://slime-girl-sub.zamanen.net/mini_vote/toro.html
10th is pretty good
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>>545225370
>maledom rape
ew
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>>545240817
>Not embracing your male dominance
Ew
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>>545240817
>>545241195
It doesn't matter who wanted to do the rape.
Penis always gets eaten, no matter how or in what penis goes inside of.
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>>545241410
>penis goes inside
Penis penetrates, so penis is on the one attacking.
Pussy can't attack, it can only defend.
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>>545240702
>Imp in 4th place
Imps are too strong...
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>>545241972
What about the tube inside the pussy that enters the penis?
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>>545113796
>>545225370
What games are these?
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>>545242152
the WHAT
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>>545242393
>he doesn't know about the sounding tube
All monster girls have them, according to Xelvy and Shimpi
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>>545242152
Butterfly girls...
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>>545240702
>that power gap in the first three places
Also Luka's comment section is surprisingly restrained.
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>>545242724
Reading Ilias' comments, this guy must've been such a happy camper when Paradox came out.
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>>545242078
An impressive showing!
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>>545241972
Even if penis attacks, pussy is an impregnable fortress. And if penis is lured inside, there is no escape.
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Say, is it true that there's a fusion of Judgement and Worldbreaker? I remember seeing a sprite of it on Wplace.
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>>545184507
Worst elf by far desu
She’s just an extremely unfunny joke and nothing else
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>>545246209
She has her moments.
But I really wonder just how far TrTr was going to take her inner genius wankery originally. The Calamities are a contentious topic when it comes to the game's development, because there are clues that they were a super late addition. But Elf Princess connection to Angelmois seems like something that was supposed to be a payoff since her introduction in Part 2.
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Elven women prefer human men (but they won't admit it).
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Good morning noble harpy, lamia, angel, fox, imp, android, daughters and everything else-lovers, the tiebreaker is now closed. So here's your updated divegrass roster:

>Goalkeeper:
Counter!

>Gold Medals:
Touch Fluffy Tail (Captain)
Chi~pa~pa

>Silver Medals:
Ilias Did Nothing Wrong (Promoted)
Luka, Straightest Shota (Promoted)
Ero1.ogg

>Regular players:
I'm so hungry I could eat a ___ (Demoted)
Remember Xelvy (Demoted)
Totally Normal Human Mage
Dried Fish
One (1) Win Eden
Shikibus Prime
Remember Xelvy
Pizza Guy
Hapy Wife
Four Heavenly Knights
My Little Monster (New)
Mommy Executioner
PARADOX 3 NOW
■■■■■■■■■■■
Foolish Dodo Bird
Thigh-Highs
Mini-Alice (New)
BOOB PRESSES MAKE YOU HAPPY

On the question if Chi~pa~pa should get a real model, the thread voted a close "Yes."

Ilias and Luka were promoted to silver medals alongside Alice, while Hiruko and Assassinroid were demoted. Ilias actually got the highest votes in the tiebreaker, while Alicetroemeria barely got any. My Little Monster (Chaos) and Mini-Alice have also been voted on to the roster, while Total Plant Death and MONSTERS MUST DIE have been eaten. The vote on Slyph's model is close, so I might try to find a way to incorporate both if it's tenable (jpg on her head/shoulder etc).

Shitpost box:
>THE SECRET TO WORLD PEACE AND HAPPINESS IS FORCING ALL HUMANS TO HAVE SUCCUBUS TITS ON THEIR FACES
If only
>I got new monitor today.
Cool, my second one is old but still trucking along.
>fuck you I just wanna pick members
Careful the other monstergirls don't pick your member too.

VGL25 starts on the November 28th at 5pm UTC (Qualifiers are November 21st but we're not in them). Thanks to everyone who took part, hope to see you then!
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Sag, wer bist du, wunderbare hohe heilige Götterfrau
Die im Schmuck der goldnen Haare wandelt durch den deutschen Gau?
Viele Namen hör ich nennen, anders stets nach Ort und Frist
Doch es ahnen, die dich kennen, dass du stets die Selbe bist
Magst du Flockenberge türmen, Winterschutz der jungen Saat
Mag in Herbst- und Frühlingsstürmen durch die Lüfte gehn dein Pfad
Oder ob der goldne Wagen leicht dich trägt von Haus zu Haus
Immer, wo dir Herzen schlagen, streust du vollen Segen aus

Bald als Berchta mit dem Rocken gehst du um zur Winterzeit
Und verwirrst die vollen Wocken und belohnst die fleiß'ge Maid
Bald als Holda-Roggenmuhme streifst du heimlich durchs Gefild
Und es neigt sich Blatt und Blume, und des Kornfelds Ähre schwillt
Wieder dann auf heiligen Hainen fährst als Nerthus du durchs Land
Und es kündet dein Erscheinen Glück und Frieden jedem Stand
Eisen schläft, die Waffen schweigen, und gestorben ist das Weh
Froh darfst du zum Bade steigen im geheimnisvollen See

Oft auch tief im Waldesschatten hat man weinend dich erblickt
Wie einst Freya ihrem Gatten goldne Tränen nachgeschickt
Bist du Freya, die den Frohen Freude bringt trotz eigner Qual?
Bist du gar des höchsten Hohen, bist du Wodans Lichtgemahl?
Lodert frommen Herdbrands Feuer doch auch dir in heilger Glut
Und wie jener ist dir teuer junger Ehe köstlich Gut
Oder muss ich tiefer dringen bis zu Hel durch Gruft und Grab?
Steigst du, Leben zu erzwingen, gar zur Totenwelt hinab?

Denn dort ruhen die Ungeborenen, wartend, dass du sie befreist
Wie du auch den Frühverlorenen dort zurück die Pfade weist
Und so knüpfen deine Hände der Vollendung großen Ring:
Tod und Leben, Anfang, Ende, alles kommt auf deinen Wink
Heilige Göttin, vielgestaltig wandelst du auf deutschem Grund
Und im Wirken mannigfaltig wird uns deine Gottheit kund
Wer du sein magst, Frigga, holde, zählst du Hellias Reiche zu:
Mir, im Haar von lichtem Golde bist Allmutter Erde du
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>>545260021
Sei gesegnet, Mutter Erde, die uns alle rief zum Licht
Die in Not uns und Beschwerde Frucht und Blütenkränze flicht
Sei gesegnet, Mutter Erde, die uns wieder lind umfängt
Bis das große Frühlings werde einst des Helreichs Pforten sprengt.
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>>545255902
>Chaos got in
Blessed rooster.
>Sylph 3d
I think her whole charm and uniqueness comes from gag appearance (small size and being not very visible without close ups). I wouldn't mind 3d as long as she stays that way.
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>>545255902
>>545262103
Give her a 3D model but make her small like the Leaf model on /h/
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>>545255902
Damn, I'm surprised the vote on Sylph was so close, I was expecting most people to prefer Sylph.jpg.

>>545262103
Yeah, something along those lines doesn't sound too bad. I don't have any ideas on a compromise or combination between big and small Sylph though.
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>>545272154
>clothed is more alluring than butt naked
Power of imagination is astounding.
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Monsters rape anything that moves.
So, if you encounter a monster, just don't move.
She won't recognize you as prey and walk/slither/swim/fly past you.
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>>545274013
Cute clothes are cute.
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>>545274226
How mean. Mocking innocent monster girls with eyesight problems.
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Dead thread.
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>>545282090
nothing a little necromancy can't fix!
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>>545255902
Awesome, thanks again anon! I look forward to the next games!
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>>545278124
>Where did it all go wrong...
Well, where do I start...
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>>545274226
>walking down the road after running some errands
>notice a rustle in the trees
>there's a lizard girl hiding in the woods
>stop in my tracks
>she starts to slowly creep her way forward from the underbrush
>stay perfectly still
>she sneaks through the grass and comes onto the road
>stay perfectly still
>crawling on all fours, she emerges onto the path and starts to examine my body
>stay perfectly still
>feel her eyeing up my body
>still motionless, she slowly leans in from behind me
>lowering her face directly to my ear, she whispers in a gentle tone
>"That only works in the movies."
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>>544730009
Paizuri
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https://x.com/jingai_club/status/1985660352177324322
YAO
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>>545294403
BIG
FLUFFY
PAWS
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>>545275872
whoa!
Do you need some eye drops?
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>think of the first four Monster Girls that comes to your mind
>these Monster Girls are now in the last game that you played
>can they beat the game?
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>>545299078
Shoggoth, Manticore, Angel, Harpy. I don't think they'll beat Vampire the Masquerade
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>>545299327
I’m very unfamiliar with V:tM but wouldn’t an actual Angel just kinda obliterate a vampire
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>>545300036
>I’m very unfamiliar with V:tM but wouldn’t an actual Angel just kinda obliterate a vampire
Oh, my mistake I thought you said play the game not in it, then yeah, she's going to demolish them with holy light no problem. But at the same time you play as a new vampire so running into her is a near instant death if she finds you
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>speak to grangold king in castle
>suddenly king of sabasa dialogue triggers despite me not even being aware he is alive
Not kino
Was pretty obvious but still
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>>545300489
In all fairness the idea of the Monster Girls playing the video game instead of being dumped in it is kinda funny in its own right, mostly because it’d beg the question as to which Monster Girls would actually be skilled at the various different games and the potential interactions from it. Like how the Elf Princess joins you when you bring all people she knows from the MMORPG she’s playing over, which turn out to be a bunch of literally shut-in mimics. I bet the trash talking would be great.
Although I’m not even sure how many Monster Girls would be able to use a controller, much less play games to begin with. I can’t exactly envision a way for a harpy to play anything, and a slime would probably ruin any equipment she tried to use. I guess the requirement comes down to “has hands” and “can reasonably use the device”.
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>>545302338
Do you have All Talk installed? It might’ve caused that. It seems to get wonky sometimes
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>>545302338
All talk could definitely use some improvements. Chars with multiple forms repeating dialogue for each form is another issue.
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>>545302562
>>545302724
No mods of any kind
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>>545302562
>have to remove it every time adramelek is refought in part 1or else fast forward through five minutes of every girl’s “fuck yeah we’re gonna save the world!” oath
that being said I dearly wish there was something like that for Part 3 so it’s still not so bad. Part 1’s ending is the purest definition of soul, and I feel like the fight to hold off Chaos long enough in order for FOC!Luka to regain his sanity would’ve been ten times better if it had been even merely just one unique line from each Girl or Party Member as they stand forward in defiance against Chaos with the power of friendship instead of a ten minute unskippable cutscene with the antagonists you had to put up with who were all already powercrept to hell and back by both your OWN party members and the entire chaos route itself by this point which ultimately just amounts to “please think they’re cool guys” as the end result is the same either way and there wouldn’t be a substantial change. CGBA doesn’t even feel like she should be there.
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Setouchi put this up on his fanbox, and says he wants to be ready for comiket on the 24th, so he's mostly working on stuff for another book like the last one he released.
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>>545303703
>who were all already powercrept to hell and back by both your OWN party members
Hilariously this isn't even true because of Granberia chain scaling.
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Is twinkell just the peak of party members or something
They attack five million times per turn and do ludicrous damage
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>>545309561
>Roid
>racial skill x2 with racial chain
>its Artificial skills with followups
Yeah she is.
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>>545305823
I meant the fact that in-universe your party has defeated them all multiple times, even when they've ganged up on you, and they've all been forced to bend the knee on top of you beating significantly stronger versions of the chaos goddess bosses and CGBA plus Judgement and World Breaker who are so strong their fights with the apostles are implied to have been incredibly one-sided in their favor, and rather than ludo-narrative dissonance, all individuals involved actually acknowledge this strength and it's part of why they agree to help Luka in the first place and he's able to start wrangling the ones who need it. Everyone in your party that you're kept and been training on your journey has hit this power point by then and even someone like Lime the Slime becomes a god-killer who could benchpress her own ancestor if she's been in your party and you've trained her to become that strong, which is why they swear fealty and help you with the plan in the end since you've proven your power over them.

But mostly I just think that it would've been a very nice narrative parallel to Part One and made your choice of Girls and Party Members make the moment more special since it would be Luka's chosen choice of his closest friends and truest companions that help him gain his sanity back.
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>>545309561
Android as a race is comically overpowered and I don't really feel like it needed to be added since there's not much of a reason for it and doll to be distinct things when a lot of the 'dolls' are also robots or automatons.

But as far as party members obtained earlier on, yes she's pretty ridiculous and she scales really well for her damage output.
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>>545310831
This is basically just the argument for Paradox part 2 Luka being stronger than the VN.
No one scales that high because it does done through teamwork.
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>>545303905
I really wish there were more interactions between Lucifina and Micaela and their mini-mes.
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>>545313221
he should be, since both the chaos goddesses that he fought are stronger than Final Ilias was in the VN
but yes the teamwork is part of it, power of friendship > everything else
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Human women are superior to monster girls.
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>>545302413
I'm sure harpies would love playing DDR!
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>>545303905
I like Setouchi
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>>545317573
While funny, I don't think tiny Lucifina would do that. She actually loves OG Ilias.
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>>545321268
Lucy-Chan probably went along with it because she's also just very guilelessly mischievous and playful and probably thought they were just playing a game. Hence AW!Lucy making it a "race" to see who could finish first.
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>>545303905
Nice, I like how much his art has improved. I hope the novel has lots of illustrations.
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>>545299078
>alma
>myusca
>vinum
>tamamo
>riichi city
Hard to say.
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https://skeb.jp/@rando0501mark2

Pumpkin's skeb is open again. Got any ideas Bob/Zozo? How about Alma and Minagi cucking Alice?
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>>545334961
luka and alice having normal loving husband and wife sex
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>>545334961
Sending a Venefica request this time.
Basing it on a generic hero signing up for her 3 day milking assistant job.
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>>545335484
And it was accepted.
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>>545299078
>Lizard Girl, Imp, Harpy, Lamia
>Stellaris
I don't think so.
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>>545337493
>These four will have to build and manage a entire intergalactic civilization by themselves
ok that's actually fucking hilarious
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>>545299078
>eden, mini, BA, promestein
>tokyo xtreme racer
Honestly? Aside from Mini, yeah. I'd love to see monster girls in cars racing down a highway.
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>>545337493
>eventually, a fight breaks out
>in the chaos the imp starts her own empire called the Impire with herself as Impress and tries to increase her magical power
>ends up making a deal with The End of the Cycle in the process
>"surely, this will never come back to haunt me"
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>By the way, the word "run over" is written with the characters for "car" and "fun."
Learn something new every day.
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>>545299078
>vanessa/ratty/queen harpy/lolice
>look outside
since the objective is ultimately "survive fifteen days" and not "kill the calamity event that reaches past the solar system" they'll almost certainly be able to "win" but they would definitely hate the entire experience.

I normally wouldn't have thought of the centipede girl first but one of the vendors said this and now she's on my mind.
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>>545343454
oh no no no...
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>>545343454
I believe in her!
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>>545343454
Monsters cannot rule at all, they're going to break into subgroups of fighting and collapse entirely
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>>545350934
so like human civilizations given enough time?
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>>545351842
Difference is, that monsters speed run collapses whiles even fallen humans just fall to a degree
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>>545350934
these aren't the ancestors, I'm pretty sure they'd manage to do it
.....well maybe not the imp
I have faith in the other three though
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>>545351964
Humans are always fallen
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imagine the horror if alice went along with ilias
TWO tyrant goddesses oppressing humanity
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>design the creature parts
>Get to the clothes

>"...right... the clothes..."
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>>545353215
It's a tale as old as time my friend....I understand well.....
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>>545352014
Its going to be even worse since monsters love to backstab each other. The moment they have a good leader is the moment they see it as weakness or want more. Like Starscreen

>>545352024
But they always get back up
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>>545353806
Yes the monster known as Gabriela, big backstabber.
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>>545353806
>monsters love to backstab each other
I'm not falling for your propaganda! I trust at least three of those girls with my life!
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>>545354414
Its not them you have to worry about anon
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>>545353938
Its the plant monster DNA
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>>545347186
>And THE things got REALLY good when _____________________ crotch _____________________ centipedes
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>>545299078
>HOP succubus
>Rami
>Earthworm Girl (I don't even like Earthworm Girl)
>Bunni
NONE of these losers are beating Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
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>>545355306
There's no backstabbing ancestor.
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>>545355450
Because none of them are dumb enough to turn their backs to each other and they stay away from Hiruko since she'll eat their front
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>>545355326
cute
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>>545355306
Plant girl slander!
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>>545350934
If humans are too busy being plapped to make trouble, and monster girls are too busy plapping humans to oppress humans in manners unrelated to plapping, all will prosper.
>>545328167
>riichishitty
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>>545355898
>in manners unrelated to plapping
That doesn't include dryfishing and vore.
>all will prosper
Or starve.
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>>544761092
cool. What game?
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>>545355898
>If humans are too busy being plapped to make trouble, and monster girls are too busy plapping humans to oppress humans in manners unrelated to plapping, all will prosper.
It has shown the opposite since monsters will try to rule over those weaker than themselves even if they are smarter than them.

>>545355881
They slander themselves
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>>545356310
We're HOP (there are no futa cocks)
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I'm starting to realize Waemawa is just Mini with lightning instead of fire and an adult instead of a child.
No wonder she's so great!
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>>545358203
We've got Moltres and Zapdos, where's Articuno?
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Open for fried tofu!
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>>545207516
These things rape people.
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>>545362675
...And?
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>>545362879
And that's a good thing!
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>>545363148
>good end
I asked a Yoma and an Angel, they both say there's nothing good about that.
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>>545362525
Hmmm...
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>>545362525
Built for Kurisu's holes.
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>>545362675
Rape is a concept invented by humans trying to avoid their marital responsibilities to kitsunes.
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>>545358203
Waemawa?
More like woah mama...
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hello, tourist here
since Paradox part 3 has been out for a while, is there a site with rips of all the CGs?
I was going to wait for it to be fully translated but I came across Sariela's loss scenes and instantly recognised Xelvy's art style
his art always seemed more polished and stylish compared to the others in MGQ, and I was wondering where I could find more
I also heard there was a new replacement artist to help finish the CGs when Xelvy disappeared, what's their artstyle like?
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>>545377320
>his art always seemed more polished and stylish compared to the others in MGQ
>Xelvy
good bait
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>>545377578
maybe i'm using the wrong words
it looks more stylized in a way that appeals to me more than the other artists
why do you dislike his art?
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>>545377959
No you're right anon, don't let him gaslight you Xelvy was the best artist and the replacement isn't Xelvy but its okay
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>>545377959
>>545378384
A lot of xelvy girls look dirty or filthy, his "style" is not appealing at all.
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>>545378594
>>545378594
>his "style" is not appealing at all.
You maybe wrong anon, but I'll say you have a right to be wrong.
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>>545378731
You're free to like shit all you want anon. But it's still shit.
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>>545334961
Luka's 3 daughters, Chaos, Neris and the third one whose name I forget getting into a fight cloud over who gets to rape their dad. Nero leads Luka away from the melee hoping to himself that the mothers are more mature only to see them doing the same thing, through in this case it's Alice, Hild and Sonya rather than the actual father of the Beelze daughter since her mom or mos are in that other world and destroyed it, the gag being Nero wondering why it's sonya in there while Luka either facepalms or has already turned around to flee the scene.
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>>545378828
>You're free to like shit all you want anon. But it's still shit.
But I don't like that, I have good taste. But in order to not flood the thread and ruin the perfect name of Xelvy and his memory, I'll let you get the last word in if you want anon
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>>545378384
To be fair, Xelvy's gooey, dirty, and somewhat sharp art style is pretty heavily stylized so it isn't for everyone. The yellow semen and a lot of the designs being what they are probably doesn't help either.
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>>545379068
I know his style ain't for everyone, but to me it was great and I loved most of his girls. If I lived in MGQ world, I'd be a side character who lived far out in an 'abandoned' town that had people scared to go near it and in it would be filled with my Xelvy wives and me.
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>>545379026
>I have good taste
Shit is not good for you.
>he fell for the 'he's dead' meme
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>>545379301
Personally, I was always really fond of Laplace. Trooperoid is pretty neat too.
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>>545378909
Luka's Daughters
>Chaos
>Neris
>That one Beelzebub
>Random pirate mermaid
>Nanabi II
>Constantina Remina
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Superheroes did massive damage to society by preaching that true heroes never kill anybody, including the most morally depraved psychopaths. It needs to be booted from the Overton window.

Evil exists. The overwhelming majority of criminals are stupid, self-absorbed, find criminality fun, and will NEVER change. That's why they usually reoffend, even if you give them a home, a reliable source of food, a support network, and reassurance from the entire justice system that they're good people who just made mistakes. And why letting them out immediately just emboldens them even more. When they eventually go on to beat Bob the retired dock worker half to death because he's hunched over and making a helpless old man groan in pain sounds like fun to them, the suffering that Bob (who's only offense was being frail in their vicinity) will experience for the rest of his life is on the "heroes" who spared evil.
>Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

If you're going to have a story where a hero spares every enemy, you should flip it on its head. Do the usual pseudo-moralistic bullshit, have the villain roll her eyes and snicker as the cuck hero preaches at her, then have her murder a character that we like later. No new party member who's grateful about not being judged. Just a dead cutey who will never get another scene.
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>>545380354
Luka is the father of chaos, he makes the rules.
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>>545380354
Killing all the villains is gonna get you the bad ending, anon. You need to redeem/forgive/marry them to get the true ending.
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>>545380354
You can still have good stories with that, the problem that really caused damage is with writters who don't want to commit so they duce ex Machina their way out of it, a good example of it is Kamen Rider Gaim
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>>545380040
Good taste anon, even if you don't like them all its nice to see others appreciate his girls
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>>545381713
Yeah, the real problem is series being unwilling to kill off their villains because they need to come back next week.
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>>545381934
Exactly, Even if you don't want that, there are ways to go about handling it
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>>545381870
What was her crime?
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>>545383725
She entered a shota's apartment, uninvited.
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>>545381594
The true ending should invert that as a "fuck you" to the vapid retards. Each heroine can be murdered by a villain that you've spared. The murder event won't happen until several hours later. Maybe the game can drop clues and have you play judge. Enemy commander who wants to save her people and has been neutralized? Spare. Bandit? Kill. Timid hostage forced to be in the gang? Spare. Murderwhore? Duh. The villains that you should've killed will be annoying as fuck and totally ungrateful, just like the real thing. And I don't mean cute anime girl "annoying". I mean IRL retarded ghetto trash and Amber Heard annoying. It's amazing how quickly a girl stops being hot when you learn that humility and loyalty are foreign concepts to her. The simps are going to feel blueballed by their reward. Again, just like real life.

All heroines being alive and healthy to play their role in the final conflict is a prerequisite to the true ending.

>>545381713
It's a bad moral unless the villain's crimes are hurty words and jaywalking. With something like a lot of monster girl games, it's out-of-touch with reality and shows a callous disregard for future victims, which isn't very heroic. It also kinda depends on the tone. If it's a comedy where getting blasted with a cannon just covers the upper half of your body in black soot, obviously there's no moral levity there. There are also some settings like Rance where people's reactions to things twist the entire moral fiber of the world.
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>>545384482
>It's a bad moral unless the villain's crimes are hurty words and jaywalking. With something like a lot of monster girl games, it's out-of-touch with reality and shows a callous disregard for future victims, which isn't very heroic. It also kinda depends on the tone. If it's a comedy where getting blasted with a cannon just covers the upper half of your body in black soot, obviously there's no moral levity there. There are also some settings like Rance where people's reactions to things twist the entire moral fiber of the world.
Like I said, even if you don't care for morals, trying to write yourself out of a hole tends not to do well. When you try to take your writing and world seriously and add in serious problems and reactions, just sweeping the consequences under the rug undermines everything even if you do have some dumb thing like having them fight together, that wouldn't make everyone forget all of the horrors that was inflicted on each other. Any way I'm going to stop before I get accused of being the bad writing fag
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>>545378594
he does horror and robots good
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>>545384887
Maybe the real bad writing fags were the villains we befriended along the way...
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>>545380279
hild is luka's daughter he made her
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>>545384887
Morals are the core of a story. The main reason why western writing has gone to shit is because it has no morals beyond the protagonist's/the girlboss love interest's feefees, which gives us unintentionally villainous """heroes""" who are loathed by the audience. And this perspective from the creative team trickles down into other things like designs that are unappealing to the audience because the most important thing is that Karen's insecurities aren't triggered and a lack of personal accountability when the game bombs hard.

You need to care about morals in order to be a good writer.
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>>545386036
I feel like it has more to due with bigger budget games being restrained by shareholders and writing committees stifling creativity and any strong message a writer wants to send so they can avoid offending as many people as possible. I'm pretty sure you're not wrong for quite a few games though.
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>>545385923
>Maybe the real bad writing fags were the villains we befriended along the way...
Like I can be down for that, it just has to be handled better. Like enslaving them

>>545386036
>You need to care about morals in order to be a good writer.
Not really, there are plenty of stories about the villainy and such, though what you said about western writers is mostly true
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>>545387817
Caring about morals doesn't necessarily have to mean you believe in them, the important thing is that you care enough to explore them in an entertaining or interesting way.
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>>545387795
If you look at the people who are actually making the decisions, it has nothing to do with chasing the widest possible audience to increase shareholder value. That's just a lie that they tell shareholders and customers to justify their decisions. It's actually all about their egos and legacies. They'll literally fire people for overperforming without sufficient input from the people at the top and making them look bad. But they're also not smart or humble enough to be the great people that they want to be remembered as, so they're just stuck hoping that their next horrible/mediocre idea will be a hit until the money eventually runs out (which it gradually is, even with socialist redistribution to the hedge funds and then to their companies).

Something to remember is that most of your favorite games were probably made by corporations.

>>545387817
I mean that the writers need to have a moral compass that can discern between good and evil. That'll actually help you if you want to write an evil protagonist, including understanding where the line is that will cause people to hate the protagonist so much that they can't tolerate the story anymore.
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>>545389517
if they are a hot protagonist that will get excused more often but good luck western devs nowadays dont care about that either
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>>545390442
Men actually hate evil women. You don't see men lining up around the courthouse to cheer on the female serial killer who takes men's inheritance. They demand her execution in unison. And girlbosses are money repellant.

What they like are women who are somewhat vain, somewhat clingy and extremely affectionate and loyal, and relatively vulnerable, but not to the point of being a useless narcissist who turns the house into a pig sty and gets pissed when he spends Saturday playing videogames. When you add the meta layer of a fictional story, nobody is more vulnerable than a villainess who's doomed to get ryona'd and possibly killed. If you notice that they kinda get less hot when they turn good despite men's IRL preferences and not much changing about their looks or personality, that's my theory as to why.
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>>545388484
True, but it also causes problems when you rant about them only to become a hypocrite later on

>>545389517
>I mean that the writers need to have a moral compass that can discern between good and evil. That'll actually help you if you want to write an evil protagonist, including understanding where the line is that will cause people to hate the protagonist so much that they can't tolerate the story anymore.
Also true, people tend to hate hypocrites and such unless the character was genuinly and unashamed presented as such
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Hentai games tend to have protagonists with really poor morals, if no morals at all, because sex comes first.
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>>545392484
That's true, but the problem comes when you start getting preached at or it tries to take itself more seriously
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>>545392484
Anti-heroes or villains are more common in porn. Bad guys tend to win more often, too. If the protagonist is domming doubly so. It's often treated with a certain sense of humor and self-awareness though.
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>>545389517
>Something to remember is that most of your favorite games were probably made by corporations.
While that's certainly true, I'd argue those cases are often due to those corporations either knowing how to hold back their writers without stifling their creativity or being more willing to take risks at the time those games were made.
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>>545392484
>sex comes first
Wrong.
The boy cums first!
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>>545392484
This is why we need more femdom rape. The protagonist can't do morally questionable things if they're too busy being raped. Regular non-femdom rape is no good because raping girls is frowned upon by most philosophers.
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>>545392484
It does warp the moral perspective of the universe, but only as it pertains to sex and fetishism, and only in a limited fashion. Meia is still kinda portrayed as a piece of shit, for example.

I don't think that it has any impact on "actually, every villain who's tried to murder you is a good boy who dindu nuffin' and just needs be hugged, told that murder is wrong, and maybe given a timeout". Except that leaving a vore spider alive gives trtr easier access to his fetish. But it's not always framed in a fetishistic fashion and doesn't always lead to more sex scenes.

>>545393095
It's fine to have a serious story with serious morals. LotR couldn't take itself more seriously or be more blunt about its disagreement with modern politics, for example. The problem is when they try to preach delusional, incoherent morals at the audience and/or when they sacrifice the story to get their morals out there.
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>>545393467
It's a matter of who they invite on the board. The CEO answers to the board members that he's invited. A company is its people.

If you keep hiring people like the Karen who used to work as an executive for Taco Bell for her "business expertise" but doesn't know anything about videogames, yeah, that could tie your hands. But that's a failure to gatekeep rather than inherent flaw in the structure itself. Which admittedly is becoming increasingly hard to do as BlackRock and its proxies grow massive thanks to the 50% tax rate being funneled into their coffers.
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>>545391519
i like evil women
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I swear to god some of you just sound like you just hate women in genera
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>>545394254
Technically, Luka is depicted as a POS as well in the Meia scene. He himself thinks of how lowly he was fucking another man's wife.
It's probably the most ooc thing he does, and you can't excuse it as a dubious canon castle scene like Paradox.
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Some villains are neither misunderstood, penitent, nor in need of redemption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGo9RYrgk-c
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>>545397803
I like "evil" women.
"Inviting me over 'to watch movies', then locking the door and giving me this smug-ass 'gotcha~' smirk" kind of evil.
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>>545400405
meant for >>545391519
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>>545400405
Forcing poor, innocent shotas to watch shitty retro movies that no one cares about anymore is way too evil...
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>>545391519
>You don't see men lining up around the courthouse to cheer on the female serial killer
That's because they do it online.
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>>545391519
Men line up to cheer on female "rapists", though (like teachers).
And to all those who think that women like "bad boys":
Have you ever seen women cheer on male "rapists"? Yeah.
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>>545404563
That's because men thing "god I wish that was me" while women seethe in anger "that bitch is no better than me why her?"
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I love evil women.
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i never understood the "potato" comments on jingai's art
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>>545406624
His lolis are smaller and have rounder faces than they had at the time he did his MGQ designs, which some people don't like. Some people like the small and rounded lolis, some like taller and more gracile, some like the budding type, some like the chubby ones etc. He went from gracile to round so that inspired discontent in those who prefer it.
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>>545406924
ooh, gotcha, thanks!
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>>545406924
I thought it was because the faces he draws look like a peeled potato.
I mean, look at this >>545407082 and tell me it's not a potato.
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>>545394254
>It's fine to have a serious story with serious morals.
I never said it wasn't anon

>The problem is when they try to preach delusional, incoherent morals at the audience and/or when they sacrifice the story to get their morals out there.
I think we're at an agreement anon. That's what I was saying
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>>545402868
I've never seen anyone more hated online or elsewhere than women who betray their men or their children. It gets worse for them if they're attractive.

>>545404563
This is going to be extremely politically incorrect, but when social taboos and truth are at odds, it's always a bad choice to respect the taboo. That's my rule. Neither sex reacts as viscerally to adult women having sex with young boys. Everyone here knows it. Why (the question you're not supposed to ask)? Because the pipe isn't as easily injured as the socket, and boys don't get pregnant. When you have gay men and young boys, the visceral reaction comes back, because the risk of injury is there. Not saying it should be allowed. Just explaining the mystery.
>Have you ever seen women cheer on male "rapists"? Yeah.
You answered your own question. Women outright fetishize it.

At any rate, feminism doesn't like this, but men put a lot more value on undying loyalty and affection from women than the other way around. You can find some weird fetishists, but 99% of the male population is absolutely repulsed by a female traitor. Unless he really deserves it. The most under-discussed aspect of the girlboss but arguably the one that sucks the charm right out of them is that they don't have a man that they love and respect enough that they'd never betray him in any way. What separates the beloved old Harley Quinn from modern Harley Quinn that nobody can stand? Old Harley Quinn dedicated herself to pleasing The Joker while new Harley Quinn lives entirely for herself.

The only semi-villainous trait that men like is mild levels of vanity, and that's pretty low on the scale.
>Same with women.
Nope. PUAs know that the easiest way to psychologically manipulate women into sex is to signal that you already have another woman or at least one available to you. And a lack of a potential for violence in a man makes women dry.
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>>545409160
Look at the monster lord cowering from some ghosts. How can monsters have such a cowardly leader?
...wait, where did the Goddess Ilias go?
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>>545410509
Ilias being afraid of ghosts is especially silly when souls are literally her purview.
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>>545409497
Samefag here.

It might sound a bit ironic posting that ITT, but I think that part of the reason why Shiki Tamamo isn't all that popular despite being extremely hot is because she fucks the whole village and wants you to be her main concubine. I mean, you know that the monster girls are probably fucking other guys, but it's mostly off-screen and you're left to imagine that at least for the rest of Luka's life, she might be for (You). Or the sex is just an attack, like with the Lilith sisters. Come to think of it, outside of being brainwashed, did they ever fuck random guys after joining the team?

Why is there no true male equivalent for the word "slut"? Because what men value out of women is loyalty, dedication, and affection, which is the exact polar opposite of villainy.
>manwhore
That's not anywhere near as widely used, though. And it'd come across as forced and unnatural if they tried.
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>>545406624
He drew a bunch of GBF harvin girls and his artstyle now makes every loli a harvin
Harvins are potato people
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>>545411432
They still do it even when Luka goes back in time with Chaos and kills Echidna. They just don't dryfish anyone.
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>>544864992
>even more wait for the final final update
Damn.
Might as well start playing from the very beginning when it finally releases. By the time I'll be done with part 3, all updates and bugfixes should be out. Part 3 might even have a proper translation by then
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>>545414571
>Part 3 might even have a proper translation by then
lol
lmao even
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>>545409497
I'm not going to get into a discussion about this whole diatribe you've been going on but I'm just going to pick out the part about
>Harley Quinn
and say she is like one of the worst examples you could've used for this.
Harley isn't beloved for her devotion to the Joker, it's her being a sincerely well-meaning and tragic figure who could've and should've been a good influence on people and helped others but was manipulated and groomed by the Joker into being his patsy specifically BECAUSE she was well-meaning and wanted to help him. She's probably the perfect showcase of how evil and twisted the guy at his core really is. She's walked all over, treated like garbage, and then every time she starts to realize he's a piece of shit, he manages to get her to come right back to him again by playing on her sympathy and "I can fix him" mentality.

Removing this aspect of Harley Quinn isn't just missing the point of her, it's arguably making her a completely different character, and it also removes part of the Joker as well, and their dynamic being both genuinely entertaining and extremely cruel and twisted. She's not a 'girl boss', and she isn't some kind of 'trad wife' or a loving devoted girlfriend either. She's ultimately an abuse victim who's been mentally conditioned into stockholm syndrome so she'll never truly be able to leave him. It makes her an extremely compelling character, and she's very well-written and memorable, but it's also lead to a bunch of people who either developed their own "I can fix her" for her or who just want to see her finally beat the shit out of the Joker.
Modern Harley Quinn is what happens when the latter camp finally got their wish.
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>>545419657
To be fair, in the old days she DOES eventually break free from the Joker. She tries to latch onto Batman as her next emotional crutch, he gently pushes her away, she has a brief lesbian fling with Poison Ivy (probably for emotional support while both are trying to break free of their pasts), and then both of them move on. Harley marries some guy at some point, lives a completely mundane wife, and has granddaughters that show up in Batman Beyond (she cameos as an old lady there.) The show did show us her walking away from Joker, but it also understood that a Harley who successfully breaks away from the Joker and walks to redemption is no longer a character for a Batman series, she lost what makes her compelling. She gets her happy ending and exits the stage.
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>>545420593
That IS entirely true, and I did genuinely like that. She manages to break free from her life and truly earns her own happy ending. But that happy ending, by necessity, also means that her story has ended, because just as you said Harley Quinn as a Batman character fundamentally is what she is and if she doesn't have that anymore than she loses what makes her so engaging and compelling. Having her redemption arc worked perfectly fine because they were willing to just let her be happy.

To better clarify, I meant Modern Harley Quinn is what happens when they take the "Harley breaks free from the Joker" story, but instead of understanding what made it work, use it as an excuse to just turn her into another generic girl boss and drag it out.
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>>545347186
speaking of that game the new update letting you recruit the only truly evil and murderous party member by mind breaking him until he's a stammering nervous wreck desperately trying to suck up to you so he doesn't get killed is hilarious. These girls are lucky Luka's such a nice guy.



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