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Previous Thread: >>543113431

A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.

>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims
/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/


>OP Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja

>Planefag pastebin:
https://rentry.co/simg

>Tankfag pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX

>Boat- and subfag pastebin
http://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE

>Repository of various aviation related material:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web


>Example of welcome sims
Falcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro truck sim, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Farming Simulator 201X, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator

>Example of non-welcome games:
Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
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Alas poor /simg/, I knew it well
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>>544762365
The Gacha fags are too powerful.
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>>544773363
Somehow I didn't notice that it was this bad. I've been seeing people complain about it for a while but I thought it might be exaggeration. I was just in the catalogue looking for /simg/ and the first three rows were all gacha slop.
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>>544773882
It wouldn't be so bad if their bakers weren't so retarded. The other day one of the generals hit bump limit, and they shit out no less than 5 threads. I think it was the Arknights general. Can't remember.
This board was already fast but the gacha influx really sped it up. Slower threads like this could atleast chill for a few hours without a bump, but we're already on page 8 within 20 minutes.
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>>544773882
I would say 40% of /vg/ is gacha
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>>544778443
Looks more like 90% to me, you gacha apologist shill.
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>>544781289
I'm sorry please forgive me it's actually 99.9% (that 0.1% is /simg/)
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>>544773363
I just don't understand gacha. Why is it so popular? I've looked into it and the games looked mind numbingly boring.
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>>544785563
It's just gambling, lootboxes with a chance of getting a jpeg of a waifu you want, the gameplay is an afterthought.
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>>544785563
Short-circuiting coomer brains with weaponized casino psychology.
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>Added a new SimVar VORTEX_RING_STATE_PROTECTION_ASSISTANCE_IMPACT which indicates how much the current collective lever position has been increased by the Vortex Ring State Protection Assistance, compared to the player’s input.
The VRS assistance in 2024 does what I thought it did, increases collective to stop you entering VRS. I know that increasing collective in VRS does nothing, or makes it worse, but maybe this increases it before entering. Not a very interesting beta update, nothing saying they've fixed the camera panning stutters, but I'll have to test it.
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Buonasera, gentiluomini.
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>>544788180
Imagine if they had put the YF-12 into service, kino beyond measure.
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>>544785563
I like the cute girls. Arknights was the only "gameplay" I liked since it's tower defense. Blue Archive I like because it doesn't take itself seriously and I like the goofy nature of the side stories. I'd never pay a dime for it though and I think gacha needs it's own board.

>>544787287
That's how it sounds. I think that means in game if you're approaching ETL it increases collective you keep you out of VRS? Once you're in VRS you're supposed to lower collective and pitch forward. I think, anyway, I'm new to helicopters.
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>>544788391
>YF-12
the nose reminds me of a borzoi
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Departing to sweden.
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>>544790024
It's cold and dark but no rain.
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>>544790024
Did you fix the autopilot issue?
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>>544790760
It was just me not understanding how it works. But I mostly use VS mode now anyways, the VNAV mode follows waypoint altitudes and I probably had waypoints with incorrect/weird altitudes.
WTF there is an UFO following me...
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>>544791048
I guess you gotta simulate UFO sightings too.
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>>544759380
Is Jurassic World 2 posting allowed here? Is the game any good on its own without dlc?
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>>544791272
Damn the cabin/cockpit temperature display broke and shows only 999C.
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>>544791751
forgot to mention for someone new to the genre
I like the dinosaurs in Ark but get tired of the gameplay
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>>544791272
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>>544791751
It has good reviews but I haven't played it myself, though funnily enough I'm playing Planet Zoo at the moment and that's decent, same devs too.
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>>544791751
>>544792336
Forgot to add, try asking /civ4xg/
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>>544791751
Usually this place is more of a "vehicle simulator" kind of thread. JW2 would fall into builder management like Sim City, Roller Coaster Tycoon, Planet Coaster, Hospital Simulator, or what have you.
I swear there used to be a general for that stuff.
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>>544788850
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>>544792552
I tried searching different keywords and this one the only simulator general that came up, figured it was a bit of a stretch
>>544792502
I'll try asking there thanks
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>>544791835
I can't do a stable landing for fucks sake. I need more VFR circuit practice, I always overspeed or if I try to keep the IAS near VREF I start losing altitude too quickly. Maybe I have to go through the aircraft manual again too...
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>>544793318
No, that's fair. We could always use the bumps, but I'm not sure how much discussion you'll get about JW2 here. Good luck on figuring out where to go.
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>>544792552
RCT2 and Planet Coaster belong in a tycoon-adjacent thread, but NoLimits 2 belongs here.
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>>544785563
Why is gooning popular? Why are crack and fentanyl popular? Why is trooning out and hassling people about your pronouns popular?
We are in the end of this civilization, anon, it's just degeneracy from here on out until people are foraging for food again.
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TERRAIN
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>>544804027
PULL OUT PULL OUT
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>>544804747
I've yet to fly the H225, how is it?
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>>544804872
I'm terrified, I can't fly helicopters
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>>544805063
It's a big bugger and should have SAS so you should be alright
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>>544805121
Made it, but helicopters are so fickle, move or twist a little and it affects seemingy random other directions. Like trying to balance something at the top of your finger
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>>544807931
>Like trying to balance something at the top of your finger
More or less.
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If it all goes to shit, I'll have my trusty 12 health point ogre of a man to swim back to shore.
Normal health is 4 points and goes up to 5 with a perk. No idea why he's like this.
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>>544809326
kek that's ridiculous, what do you lose health from in u boat?
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>>544810001
Well, if he's on the deck, explosions from planes and hostile ship weapons will hurt them, and I think it's pretty similar inside the boat, too. Most sailors on the deck just get knocked off board and drown. I'm pretty sure he could survive an entire compartment inside the boat being depth charged.
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>>544810779
Just leave him on the deck and dive, he's got sop much health he can just hold his breath
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>>544810819
I really wonder what bugged him out. I only use fluff mods, but that might just be enough lmao
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Ah, sightseeing!
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>>544807931
Think of flying helicopters as doing tai chi with the controls. You basically hold a weird position, and then smoothly transfer everything to a new position together at the same time.
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>>544815140
If it's supped to fly it shoud have wings.
Yeah I'll try again and eventually learn, but those things feel like the are just trying to kill you by randomly tilting in some unexpected direcrtion.
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>>544815731
ngl I wouldn't suggest starting with the h225
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>>544815905
I would recommend the Guimbal Cabri G2, it's in the base 2024 and is a detailed, nice heli.
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>>544807931
not random
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv74zHSLQ7A
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>>544831727
Models look good and I'm sure the map will be cool since Korea is a neat environment.
Hopefully MiGs vs Sabers will be fun because I don't know what else there will really be to do.
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>>544815731
Harness your chi, anon, stop spilling it on the ground like disgusting degerate. Feel the power coursing rhythmically into your hand.
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Korea is overrated
The jets suck
They should have just gone with pacific theatre instead
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Microshart fag simulator has ruined this thread
No one cares if you fly from bumfuckistan to dicklickerstan in some lame gay ass civilian cuck plane
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>>544862719
Microsaar made me racist. Really, REALLY racist.
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>>544862719
Are you trying to bait to keep the thread bumped?
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Erectile Dysfunction Dick/Clit Simulator has ruined this thread
No one cares if you bomb from bumfuckistan to dicklickerstan in some lame gay ass military cuck plane
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>>544862719
Post something from Dick Choking Simulator then
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>>544878569
>mom said it's our turn on the blackbird
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>>544881187
>'Who the fuck are you? Get out of the plane'
>'It's okay I have 1000 hours in flightsims I know what I'm doing'
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>>544861943
>F-51D, F-82 twin mustang vs korean yaks
>F-80 shoooting star, F-94 starfire, F-84 thunderjet early jets
>F-86 sabre peak aerial gunfighter
>F-4U corsair, F3D skynight, F2H banshee, and F9F panther on US carriers
>sea furies, fireflies, and meteors on commonwealth carriers
>A-1 skyraider, B-29 superfortress and B-26 invader for bombing and ground attack
>AT-6 texans doing FAC with smoke rockets
>B-17 and B-50, B-45 tornado, B-36 peacemaker as aerial recon to defend
>H-13 sioux, sikorsky H-5, OH-23 raven, westland dragonfly, H-19 chikasaw first combat helicopters
sure, most of what you'll do is dogfighting yaks, dogfighting migs, escorting heavies, and ground attack, but you can't say there isn't anything interesting to fly.
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Got tired of flying, so did some rounds in racing sims I own. Jesus, what are they doing? Last year when I was still actively racing, I conceded that despite some flaws, ACC is the best the genre has to offer. So lets see what's been going on.
>AC Evo is still the trashpile of a tech demo that is worse than the previous titles in every aspect (including FFB, which is a feat)
>AMS2 has gotten AI improvement, though they still suck in some corners especially on cold tyres, but other than that it's fucking brilliant. The driving though... still has the pCARS2 on rails FFB and understeer up the ass, so anything other than Bazilion Stock Gars drives like shit.
>Raceroom did a muh graphics update and now it loads the race forever to either black screen or crashes after 15 seconds of driving, bravo!
Fuck you devs, I was actually considering your game to be the most enjoyable of the bunch, but instead of fixing broken shit and polishing some details, you opted to appeal to graphic-fags and online try-hards. May you rot in hell.
Finally, pic-related...
>Best physics and driving feel and FFB, good enough sound, best fucking F1 content and best feeling drift cars. Unique shit with tons of mods. Good damage model, great gearbox simulation. Only issues are load times and AI needing time on track to learn to behave. Fuck, simracing peaked here.
>Year later, new rig, it still fucking CTDs after some time on the track.
I'm pretty sure these fuckers did this on purpose, so you'd buy the new game.
Anyway, how's LMU? I hear they fucked the tyre model and FFB, is that true, or the same youtube fuckers who dislike ACC because no shit-in-the-pants FFB feel are just complaining?
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>>544889157
The confirmed aircraft for launch are going to be(as per the forums)
>Yak-9P
>F-51
>IL-10
>Corsair
>MiG-15
>F-80
>F-86
>F-84
The B-29 and TU-2 are AI only aircraft(get fucked bomber fags).
Supposedly the collector planes are the Sea Fury FB.11 and Gloster Meteor. Which is kind of cool.

The launch looks good in terms of aircraft, there wasn't a TON of aircraft choices to start with, even with all the stuff you listed. Supposedly they're working on the Pacific Theater after Korea. Who knows when?
From what the forums say it's supposed to be
Korea>Carrier DLC>Pacific
So I'm not even sure how far they're going to expand into Korea. Probably the base game then carriers with the Banshee and Panthers. Don't know what else they'll add. Hopefully Skyraiders. I'd doubt they'll ever touch helicopters.
I'm not against Korea, just kind of a funny thing to slap out there. Probably trying to test the waters for early-mid cold war jets. Which would be cool I suppose but by that point you're stretching your already small playerbase across several servers. Great for single player.
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>>544893568
IL-2 would have a lot of potential as a single sim environment, with one title for all theaters and eras. Too little butter for so much bread.
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>>544892678
Meanwhile BeamNG gets closer and closer to becoming a proper racing sim.
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Oh boy, this'll be a cool interview.
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Razbam should give free Falcon 5.0 modules to the people that own his DCS modules.
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>>544908063
I kinda agree and kinda don't. At the end of the day it's clear now that the fault lies with ED since the whole shitshow started because they couldn't milk the Tucano deal.
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>>544922403
That's a mental looking plane
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>>544922619
flying boats are all kind of goofy-looking
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>>544924848
I love flying boats.
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I'm gonna watch this and hope it helps me with landing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pye9V8q-6k
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Rally boys, are there any games similar to Dirt Rally 2.0? I really like the game but this shit is over a HUNDRED Fucking gbs and I need the space.
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>>544938927
assuming you're into the rallysim and not the shiny modern graphics, richard burns rally hungarian mod.
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>>544939982
Correct, as long as the game is fun and has a nice amount of replayability I couldn't care less about the graphics. As long as they're ~PS2 and up tier I suppose.
>richard burns rally hungarian mod
Uhhh this? https://www.rallysimfans.hu/rbr/download.php?download=rsfrbr I'm not a real simgamer I just really liked dirt rally 2 so I'm completely lost when it comes to games in the genre.
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>>544940258
that's the one
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>>544769550
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>>544915576
>it's clear now that the fault lies with ED since the whole shitshow started because they couldn't milk the Tucano deal.
They had every right to demand a cut of the Tucano money because razbam was using DCS IP to make it happen.
Let's say you had a McDonald's franchise, and you were also selling fentanyl out of the drivethrough. If the McDonald's corporation demands a cut of the fentanyl money because you are using their brand as a cover, then you better cough something up for them or they are sending a flatbed to haul away their golden arches.
Now we get a Nocano, and a Harriless, and Nope-15D, and a Mirage 0000, because people like you thought you could fuck anyone and anything without consequences.
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>>544952995
That's a huge bitch.
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>>544965870
Howard would have fit right in here.
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>>544968267
Still waiting on an H-1 Famous Flyer.
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DCS gameplay vids are generally pretty shit but I finally found some kino. Don't get why the F1 is on REDFOR though
https://youtu.be/QT1Afm5oiEA?si=Ae4I-OrVrS3ZfzBR
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>>544977409
F1 is redfor thanks to very loose interpretation of the nonaligned movement and Iran-Iraq war, and also because there aren't any other third-gen options to fill the multiplayer parity gap.
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>>544985884
comfy.
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>>544986560
and dead.
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>>544965585
>They had every right to demand a cut of the Tucano money because razbam was using DCS IP to make it happen.
No? Did you even watch the footage? They didn't use the DCS/MCS branding. They would've provided the Tucano free of charge as an indipendent company, which ED cannot stop when you read their contracts, with full access to Tucanos as a payment for THEN make a DCS full fidelity module which would've bought ED money.
What Nick Gray was furious was that they couldn't sell the Tucano as a MCS module (despite ED constantly claiming MCS isn't in any way related to DCS) in order to charge way more money upfront, even if it meant the module never coming to DCS or coming years down the line.
Your anecdote makes no sense.
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>>545001646
>What Nick Gray was furious was that they couldn't sell the Tucano as a MCS module
This tracks with what NIGGMA said in his video about his interview with nick grey, DCS is an aftertought, the real money comes from the military contracts with MCS and they often try to strongarm their third party devs to do projects for them.
Now it even makes more sense why Nick hates Heatblur, especially after the whole Eurofigher simulation by Metrea.
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>>544965475
I knew it only had one helipad, why it has two in 2024 is beyond me, I don't know why that big lower one is there.
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TERRAIN TERRAIN
WAKE UP
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GET OUT OF THE WAY REEE
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>>545019660
You're in a simulation, wake up.
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>performance is worse in the latest su4 build
>they've broken the controls menu again
This is quite a nice little plane though, Pipistrel Virus, only a 100hp engine but seems fast, probably due to being very light, it gets thrown around a bit by wind and turbulence though.
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>be in Fokker Eindecker
>can't see because of low lying clouds
>see the needle on your Automatisches Landerkennungsgerät start to lower (pic related)
Wat do?
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>>544968997
Blame Jim.
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>>545028236
Close my eyes and think of Holland
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>>545028236
go around
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>>545029306
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>>545023517
Seems real to me.
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>>545038606
That's just messed up
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What is the easiest plane to land properly in dcs?
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>>545054391
the parachute
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>>545054391
I've only flown:
F-14
A-10C
MiG-21BiS
F-15C
MiG-29A
Su-27
Out of all of those, I'd say the A-10. You really don't even have to flare with it.
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>>545054391
Yak-52
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>>545054391
F-18 hands down.
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>>545054391
MiG-15 makes a good trainer too.
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>>545062839
Nice landing
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>>545063216
thanks, anon
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>>545046663
circle of life
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It's that time again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1u_hnlliY
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>>545106132
I wonder if during WW2 a bomber ever dropped bombs on another bomber flying underneath.
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How much should I spend if getting a dcs helicopter sim setup to not have a worse experience than controller? Was considering these.

VKB NXT Evo Gladiator Space Edition Premium
TWCS Throttle
VKB T-Rudders
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>>544892678
Seems people online say the only good racing sims are AC/ACC/RBR/Dirt Rally 2.0/iRacing
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>>545128394
>TWCS Throttle
Get a better throttle, the thrustmaster one isn't great and is shit for helis. If you're going helis only you could get an actual collective but they're not cheap.
t. have the twcs
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>>545127472
>many such cases
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MSFS looks so good but I'm on linux and I hate microsoft. ;__;
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>>545140861
I'm genuinely blown away by how it looks every time I play it.
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>>545127472
>playing flying circus
>in a fun and honorable dogfight
>'ally' swiftly pierces my brainstem with his propeller and both of our planes explode into thousands of little bits
>character dead forever
I seethe every time it happened. If it happened IRL and I had time to understand I'd seethe even more.
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>>545141824
>Israel's M-346
I fucking knew it, you're a Mossad agent
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>>545128394
>Gladiator
The only downside to this from a rotary perspective is having no option for a stick extension if you want that down the line.
Otherwise this is a very solid general-purpose setup. The only real improvements possible for anti-torque are moving to extreme high-end enthusiast gear like SLAW pedals or Simnautica FFB.
>>545128675
There's a guy on etsy that builds basic desktop collectives for under $200. Otherwise your only options are Virpil or Winwing for over $400.
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>>545143170
How do the VKB STECS throttles compare to the Winwing ones?
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>>545128540
Personally I care little about online, but I get it that people want a healthy racing scene and then physics and FFB become a secondary thing. I just like driving a virtual race car and having a game that give me physical feedback through the wheel. I'd do online, if any of my friends were into it, randos and scheduled races are no go.
ACC is the GOAT, but after a lot of fiddling with FFB and setups, I enjoy AMS2 a bit more. Biggest gripe remains 60's F1. To much understeer and too tame. I know it's the setup and I understand why - people need to be able to race in these and not focus on surviving every corner. It show with AI, they are slow on the first few laps until the tyres heat and the field spreads. Pretty cool. I miss the drifty throttle-steering of AMS1 though. Sadly that game CTDs after some time when too much 'physics' is happening.
Took one of the drift cars for a spin and a CTD happened after one lap at Suzuka. Pisses my off, since it's the only sim I can get a feel for drifting. No idea how people enjoy Assetto Corsa for slides, the wheel just yeets itself at constant speed to infinity, where in AMS and rF2 you can feel the grip returning and when to catch and apply throttle.
Anyway, did some AMS2 AI races in the Stock Cars and it's awesome. Good battles and I'm getting a grip on those Brazilian tracks. Need to do quali though, since half of the time I came in 4th, when I could easily win, but just got held up by a slow asshole, who couldn't keep the pace, but blocked the fuck out of every overtake attempt I've made.
Also tried some classic F1 with them big turbos. This feels much, much better than 60 cars and just after 2 laps at '70s Imola, I was actually confidently pushing by lap 3 and my heal-toe was never better. Weird, since I AMS1 and those exact cars was when I first learned that, despite attempts in other sims.
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>>545141081
I really need a new GPU. Hell, I'm still playing Falcon BMS 4.37 because 4.38 is too much for my computer to handle. MSFS would gag my card and slap it around like a whore.
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>>545140861
>and I hate microsoft
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>>545143108
My uncut dick exculpates me
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>>545144368
Have seen nothing but praise for the STECS but lots of loud whining about Winwing.
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>>545148489
2024 runs better than 2020 but still rapes your PC, I bought a new one mostly for MSFS, a decent CPU makes a difference, I've got a 14700k and it was getting near 30C in my room in the summer it had to work so hard.
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>>545054391
I'd say the I-16 is the easiest airplane for both landing and takeoff, plus it absolutely rapes all the other warbirds in a dogfight.
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X-Plane chads, any advice for a microshafter thinking the autism grass might be greener?
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>>545153205
My PC is dated now. 3600x with a 1050ti brokefag edition.
I actually built this PC back in 2020 and was going to grab a GPU so I cannibalized the GPU from my old PC but then GPU prices shot up and by the time they kind of recovered I wasn't working.
I'm looking at GPUs for now. Something that'll work fine, even if throttled, on my current set up and will work fine for when I finally upgrade my CPU.
I'm sick of only having 4gb of VRAM. It's essentially nothing in 2025.
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>>545153973
Up until last year I ran MSFS 2020 with a 3770k and a 980ti, it worked but wasn't brilliant. Supposedly 2024 runs better on lower spec PCs, and it runs better anyway. I've heard X Plane is poorly optimised though so I'm not sure what to suggest. If it helps, I'm on 1440p, run 24 at ultra settings and the most VRAM I've ever seen used is around 12gb.
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>>545154153
>12gb.
That's more or less what I'm going for. I know 8gb is fine for now but the next couple of years it might not be. There's too many choices for cards these days so it's hard to know what to look for.
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>>545156256
RAM wise I would suggest 32gb, for some reason it spikes and can use nearly 100% of virtual memory yet not touching the page file, I think it's a bug or something weird though as it doesn't get anywhere near using 32gb of actual RAM. I have heard DCS can use over 32gb though.
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>>545153748
Personally I don't reccomend it unless you have a plane that is available for Xplane that you're really invested in and you can't find anywhere else.
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>>545158064
>those repeating textures
Crikey, that takes me back to FSX, is that with autoortho?
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>>545158392
No, it's the base game. I posted that to show how it is at its worst.
If you're okay with spending time with third party addons then it can, in some cases, actually look better than MSFS as long as you're not flying too low.
This is with AutoOrtho.
Graphics aside without addons, it's a dead sim. No real AI traffic, no multiplayer, no multicrew etc
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>>545159205
Yeah that looks decent, if you told me that was msfs I'd believe you. I suppose it's easier to get the terrain looking nice at high altitudes, what does x plane look like nearer the ground?
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>>545159881
The satellite data is the same as MSFS since I stream Bings maps. Here in this pic it's how I usually fly, with tree density to 0 and houses/objects to zero since it looks better this way compared to how XPlane decides to populate the map. I'll take a couple of screenshot with the details turned up to normal levels
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>>545160224
high vegetation and high object details. I wanted to take some other pics since high vegetations completely ruins mountains but Xplane crashed
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Does X Plane have caravans and deckchairs? I didn't think so.
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>>545161407
ffs
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>>545161708
>medium vegetation
>there isn't any
Where are the trees m8
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>>545161810
low veg, I tried both at medium but it crashed 2 times
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>>545162004
Sorry I'm blind. Ignoring the vegetation the satellite imagery looks alright, and the houses look okay, that water looks terrible though.
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>>545162164
yeah, when it's not a proper big lake it has difficulties placing water. And in Xplane water is bugged anyway, it turns into nothingness when you fly near it or when you move your head with trackIR
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>>545162854
What was that shadow?
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>>545158064
>>545159205
Would expect days/weeks/months of tweaking, it's X-Plane after all.
Is the flight model for GA any better than MSFS?
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>>545163490
>Is the flight model for GA any better than MSFS?
Now you've done it mate
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>>545163154
The haunting presence of my past mistakes. Or a graphical glitch.
>>545163490
I'm not expert enough to tell them apart honestly. The 172 felt the same in both sims. The only GA I fly quite often is the SF260 and the XPlane version is much better than the MSFS2020 one. No idea how the 2024 update is.
IIRC it's in airliners that Xplane truly excels at, but I've got no idea.
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>>545163847
I've heard the toliss a320 is very good, with the fenix only just beating it.
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do any civil (non-combat) flight sims follow the model of ATS/ETS? Where there's actual business management and jobs/challenges, rather than just flying around in a plane and RPing your own flight plan? I wanna buy my own 737 and run my own airline
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>>545128540
>ICR2
>NR2003
>GPL
>GTR2
>GP4
>F1 Career Challenge (VB every season mod)
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>>545163847
>it's in airliners that Xplane truly excels
It feels like tube pilots, GA pilots, and helicopter pilots form a Venn diagram with fairly limited overlap.
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>>545180518
MSFS24 will (eventually) fix career mode, but there are also RP-enabling addons like Neofly
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>>545181467
>MSFS24 will (eventually) fix career mode
Just in time for MSFS2030.
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>>545181467
damn. I just wanna be able to buy some antique piston plane like a Constellation and try and run it profitably on a modern airline
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>>545181906
You can.
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>>545181235
Most of the civ flightsim community only fly airliners and nothing else
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>>545182502
in what, msf24?
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>>545182823
24 and 20 addons yes, 24 career mode it depends whether the addon dev has updated it for career mode.
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>>545183243
which one has stuff like fuel costs, ticket profits, hiring flight crew members, and the like?
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>>545183739
I think most of them do, I know that the native 24 one has wear and tear too. I'm honestly not the best person to ask as I don't use career modes.
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sleep
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>>545182671
why the general public chose bus driving over barnstorming will always be a mystery to me
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>>545190729
autism. wanting to maintain time schedules and crunching numbers is a very autistic thing. Same reason flight sims go into such detail on managing all the systems and operations on the flight deck, letting you fiddle with every button and knob and lever rather than just flying the bloody plane. Because it's not so much flying the plane that is intriguing them, but the management involved in flying the plane. if they were born 40 years earlier, they would've been flight engineers (the guys controlling the engines and fuel and electrical systems before it was all computerised in the 80s-90s).
Same sort of people who get hard into trains.
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>>545191086
train and airliner fag, can confirm
combat fags don't get to beat the rap with their radar mech, bvr timelines and endless missile autism
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>>545181235
tube pilots don't know how to fly
ga pilots don't into computers
helicopters pilots look outside and wait for death
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>>545194763
as a fighter jock, my interest begins with machine guns and ends with unguided rockets/bombs being launched at tanks/pillboxes
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>>545195623
survey simmer?
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>>545196504
for me, it's the Jug



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