The BIG 12 Edition>PTS 11.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/287-pts-patch-notes-11-0?>Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes>September Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/2rPhnnQRPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>544591809
>big 12>Blood Ravens are probably bigger in terms of popularity than at least 8 of themhmm
>>545082287I messed up the pastebin with dialogues prepared by datamine Anon. Sorry. Here's the right link:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBI'll update the next OP, no bully pls.
3rd for Lamanters
Reposting from the last thread. I'm impressed and happy at the same time to see that Grey Knights are in the top 10.
Fisting.
>>545082287Are grey knights supposed to be the best of the best outside the Custodes, of course.
>>545083339no custodes?
>>545084113Why are you so stupid?
>>545083339Don't know why that doom eagles statistic makes me sad
>>545083339Sons of the phoenix are only popular because the fanbase believes they are EC successors
>>545083948Yes, that was the idea. But sometimes the writer's favorite ends up being better. For example the yiffers utterly shat on them.
>>545084947I like their colors.
Give me a "Dubious Loyalties" Cosmetic Pack.>Death Eagles>Mariens Malevolant>Mortifactors>Soul Drinkers
>>545085502*MarinesThank you, fat fingers.>>545084947I mean, to be fair, a lot of things about them scream Emperor's Children to the point it doesn't feel coincidental.
>>545085502space wolves, raven guard, dark angels
What books should I read to understand Genghis Khan mans?
>>545086746Why would I want shit already in the game?
>>545086860Warkhawk, Path of Heaven.
>>545084113
>THE SOUL DRINKERS FOUGHT AGAINST THE BETRAYER DAENYATHOS. THEY WERE A BRAVE AND BRILLIANT CHAPTER BACKSTABBED BY THEIR OWN, AND IN THE REMEMBRANCE HALLS OF THE IMPERIAL FISTS, THEY'RE BROTHERS. END OF STORY.
>>545085502
>>545091050If only we could team kill.
sell me on a chapter with a cool color scheme brothers
>>545093430Sons of the Phoenix.
>>545093430Pumpkin Persecutors
>>545093430Red Talons
>>545093430You can make them in-game -- Imperious Reavers. The Tyrannic War Veteran chest literally belongs to these guys. They also added their Chapter icon in the Accolades update.
I wonder if the new weekly is going to be Ballistic Engine since that's the only tyranid mission they haven't done yet. We've gotten a couple repeats of other tyranid missions to boot.
>>545093430Nightlords get the coolest shade of blue imo, and they're cooler crimson fists if you give them red gauntlets. Not only do red gauntlets look cool on their own, but for night lords, it used to mean you're on night lord death row until their primarch decides to execute you at his convenience.Lamenters are sweet imo. Yellow's an underrated primary chapter color. And the checkerboard heart chapter emblem looks fuckin nasty and contrasts nasty with the yellow.They're pretty codex compliant, so you can promote yourself to a sergeant or veteran and paint your helmet red or white, which further contrasts great with the yellow.They also get access to sanguinary swag.If you don't like some of the yellow trim, I personally use something gray/metallic like necron compound instead.Marines malevolent have another rad yellow scheme, but they're less codex compliant, plus they're armor scavengers, so you can free form more. Their emblem isn't in yet though, and it's not as sick as Lamenters' anyway imo.Charcharodons have a really classy color scheme, and they're also not very codex compliant, so you can free form more with them too.There was an Anon a thread or two ago that posted his charcharodon with thunderhawk blue for the base color, and it looked beautiful. I'd reccomend balthasar gold for the trim myself.
>>545097980>There was an Anon a thread or two ago that posted his charcharodon with thunderhawk blue for the base color, and it looked beautiful.I think I like Grey Seer more desu. Left is Grey Seer with Bronze trim. Right is Thunderhawk Blue with Hashut Copper Trim.
>>545093362One of the stratagem modifiers they're adding will do just that.
>>545098595Looks good. I personally prefer the "dryer" sheen you get from thunderhawk though.>hashut copperNice.I meant to say hashut instead of fucking balthasar. Good call and good taste.
>>545100484>I personally prefer the "dryer" sheen you get from thunderhawk though.Yeah I wish we had better control over the PBR on the armor. Like different finishes on a model, matte, dirty, slight gloss, high gloss, ect. Pigment shouldn't change the actual finish but here we are.
>>545093362Only in certain stratagems.
Feels like squad cohesion should be more like 20% at least. Well, the Assault tree in general just feels super shit.
>>545099057>>545101293You niggas better watch your fuckin' backs.
>>545100749Or going a step further and giving us a battle damage slider and a gore slider.Playing this after so much AC6 really gave me customization whiplash. It has almost everything sm2 needs.You get the full RGB spectrum of colors.You can go crazy designing your own professional looking emblems and decals with the very good in-game editor.You get all types of wear and tear at different intensities, like white scratches, black paint chips, and different types of rust.You can change the glossiness of different parts of different parts, from like sanded ceramite to chrome.Literally only thing holding back physical builds is energy load. You can sortie insanely overweight or with no weapons but your no damage/no range punches and kicks if you want otherwise. Any combination of parts and weapons that you want.And it came with all this shit at fucking launch.We're going on customization "overhaul" # what? 2 now? Over a year since release? And we're never getting a single one of those features.I know though.>inb4 Japanese devs
>>545097980Marines Malevolent rule.
>>545102660Hell ya.
>>545102621Yeah the difference between AC6 and SM2 is one was made by the hardest working and one of the most creative races on Earth while the other is made by people who have never made anything of merit.
Lightning claws and chainfist when?
>>545102660Nice diaper anon
>just have sniper on his last prestige level and I'm done with prestigingOh god finally I can just go back to playing what I like
>>545104898>can go back to playing what I like>don't like playing anything
>>545083339It's based on subr*ddit sizes for a particular Chapter. No wonder data is so absurd. Wholesome chungus poc marines get an arbitrary bias there, that's why they are second. Everything in this pic is completely divorced from reality
What do you guys consider as "Normal" difficulty?
>>545112428At this point i consider lethal to be 'normal'Objectively its meant to be substantial or ruthless
>>545112428Substantial is normal. It has purple armory data.
>>545112428i play on nothing but absolute since it released so that's normal for me
Oh yeah? Well if substantial is "normal", then why do I get fucking decimated on it? Checkmate, astartes.
>>545110312Not at all. Raptors have become huge as a secondary Chapter. Lamenters are also big. Carcharodons also get a lot of discussion.Blood Angels is the only one I find questionable because my hunch is people confused the sub for Blood Ravens. Even now I see the two frequently confused in memes.
>>545113194NTA, but I don't get the appeal of the Raptors. Why is it so beloved?
>>545113656They're the one set of tacticool marine operators operating efficiently so their unique trait has an inherent appeal
>>545113656They stand out in their mundaneness. In a franchise where the baseline is batshit, it's a cute little novelty to be the dudes kinda vaguely resembling a real world military. They're also a really good introductory Chapter to newbies. They ease them into the OTT stuff that comes later, they're a gateway Chapter.
>>545113135funny how substantial used to be harder than ruthless. also there was once a bug in the ai director that occasionaly spawned ruthless hordes in average
>>545089373
>stratagem resets>queue up as the class I want to play as>get put into lobbies where someone has already selected that classI thought these slavic fucking monkeys fixed this already
Is PvP mode any good? I've played Operations so much that I'm finally starting to get bored but I don't want to stop playing.
>>545115083it is largely just using some extremely overpowered gimmick to pick at people, and pursuing flanks above all because no one is capable of understanding that the bullets can come from their spawn
>>545115083It's barebones but it's fun. Not a lot of content there but if you like the core gameplay you'll probably get some hours out of it. Operations are where the vast majority of the actual development went and it shows.
Left or Right boys, which one we thinking?
>>545115083You start a private lobby, post codes and then trade kills with an Anon.If they try to be a nigger expose them here.
>>545116043left
>>545116043Left, the silver doesn't work well there
>>545116062>trade kills>if they try to be a nigger>expose them herewhat could possibly go wrong
>>545116493The idea is that you're both gentlemen to unlock the PvP armours for all classes.
>>545116043As a deathwatch vet you'd only have the pauldron and not the whole arm.
Name my Dude, Brothers/
My chaplain is ready to censure anyone and everyone.
>>545119195that's not a chaplain, silly, that's a dangel fallen who stole some of his deathwing armor before departing
>>545116641op never said he wants to unlock pvp armor. and i have played enough pvp vidya to know it ultimately turns into the loser accusing the winner of cheating
>>545117958Iron Hawk(ing)
>>545121003nta, but can you play PvP 1v1 in this game? If that's the case then people would be less likely to do so if it were one on one matches. Just pop 9 kills for your classes and you're done. Not that it stops others from false accusations ofc.
>>545116043Right if you paint the red black and slap on the shield. Come back to the Watch brother.
>>545116126>>545116309>>545117207>>545122680Don't know why I didn't throw all the Deathwatch colours on, Kinda kino.Thoughts now boys?
>>545124441Right is going somewhere now but i think the kneepads need a different shade of red and the fist should be the same color
>>545122017>nta, but can you play PvP 1v1 in this game?we will never know.post a code
>prestige 4 tac dies 3 separate times on a lethal exfilrough
>>545125116no seriously post code i don't care about the armor but i'd love to get the bullshit five-kills-without-dying achievement and 100% it on steam
>>545127880Can you unlock the chaos armors in private match? I want the night lord and world eater ones if so. RD9KI
>>545128903omw
>>545129434and before someone calls me an idiot for posting a pve error screen, the button to join a pvp lobby didn't work either.
>>545129434try 9QPJX
woah, it's working
>>545125034The Red kneepads are fine I reckon, it's the standard Blood Raven colour. Would love to make one white-ish and throw another chapter symbol there but alas.A Red fist is what your thinking? Or what do you mean
so far we determined:1) we can 1v12) cross-team text chat works3) i got my achievement4) anon's kills didn't count twoard unlocking his armorwe'll be doing more research
>>545130841The power fist, the right gauntlet
>dumbfuck chinese heavy runs through every crowd>get B extermination rank
>>545132750>Objective is to cover ground quicklyBut yeah, fags trying to bypass enemies directly in the way are goddamned annoying and are guaranteed to be dead weight on boss spawns as they think they can escape them without bugging the mission
>join in progress exfil>low level thammer assault>low level thammer bulw>leave
Why are there so many primaries and only 4 characters that can use them? Do they expect us to fully master every primary by the time we hit Prestige 4
there was no prestige 4 when the game launched. people here have 300+ hours on average and yes, by that time you have most your weapons relic or mastered. also while prestiging you're supposed to use an already leveled up weapon so that you don't need to go through minimal/average/substantial grind over and over again.
>>545135956i didn't mean no disrespect, just forgot to click the post number after typing.
>>545138348>>545138453I've just prestiged my Tactical and I've only gotten two of his exclusive primaries to purple. I'm expecting to hit P4 lvl 25 by the time I finish all his exclusives.
>>545124441Very good brother.
I dont want to go back to the live game but today is the last day for the PTS.
>>545142162No worries, you only need to steel yourself until the end of the month! Enjoy the breadth of content in the current patch!
is the weekly hard strat worth beating or should we all just wait for the new accolade items?
Just a normal run of Fall of Atreus with beefed up numbers, neat.Just no Vanguard heals and maybe double the chance for illiterate Assaults who haven't read this week's conditions. Melta might be viable too for that close range damage amp.
>>545144883>Close Range >No Vanguard + AssaultIf you can't beat this week's weekly then you might just be at the game.
>>545146379so it's not worth doing theni already have max resourcesguess i'll just return whenever there are new accolade items
>>545131352So killing one another in private lobbies for Chaos armour unlocks doesn't work? KWAB fuck Saber
they really just took the ultramarine loincloth and recolored itlmao
>>545139958You only need to max out the Plasma Incinerator and Stalker bolter, after you max them out you move to the Pyreblaster and Bolt carbine.90% of SM2's players maxed all their guns before the first major Ruthless update (the one where they added an extra Extremis, buffed the Zoanthrope's attacks, made ammo limited and debuffed medkits further).New players are fucked with prestige grinding unlike the old timers who spammed Absolute Decapitation for the fastest results, now you're stuck grinding at Ruthless/Lethal.
>>545147057Yet they couldn''t be bothered to add a few more variants of it. Shame on you Saber.
>>545147057This skin still isn't testable on the pts
>>545146786I don't do dailies so I'll have to buy those dumb gloves to not max out.
>>545147285>first major Ruthless updateWasn't that Lethal?
>>545148158the first major ruthless update was the one that reworked how armor worked. I don't think anyone maxed more than one gun by that time. But yeah, anon most likely (>extra extremis) meant lethal. By which time you would have the guns you actually use maxed out, but not the meme ones.
>>545148158he could also just be full of shit. notice how he specifically mentions>AN extra extremiswhile the original lethal had three.
>>545148984Not him but its been so long that I don't even remember much about the first iteration of lethal apart from the dogshit coherency system.
technically its much more faster to grind all of the guns now since they've been buffedthe oldfags who started sm2 maxed out shit bolters when ruthless was considered "hard"prestige is only hard for melee classes and you only need 1-2 matches to get the first row of perks and you're golden
Another multimelta week.
>>545150273>multimeltaAmmo or range?
How come the hammer cant be swung with one arm? I refuse to believe the head is that heavy that it cant be done.
>>545150387ammoif your faggot teammates steal extremis executes you can also take heavy's ammo perk
>>545150543Astartes can't goon so their arms aren't as strong as they could be.
>>545150543saber has been lying to you
>>545154343>give Bulwark Thunderhammer>not the 1H one so he can still have a Storm shield
>>545155087But you don't understand Anon! 2Hthunder hammer is so cool!
>>545155382You know what would be cooler? Making thunder hammer a good weapon and assault a good class.
>>545155087>give Bulwark Thunderhammer>not a shield to assault
>>545156089no, because>muh class identity
>>545155973I was being sarcastic. Obviously giving TH to bulwark was some stupid move and the decision had the least resistance since they didn't need to make any extra animations for it. Part of what makes bulwark a bulwark is his shield, but devs would know it if they played their own game.>>545156089>give a shield to assaultMonkey's paw. Knowing Saber, they'd just remove his jump pack to compensate.
>>545156616exactly. if only saber accepted that bulwark's class identity is support they wouldn't have needed to give him a thunderhammer to desperately rebrand him as a melee damage dealer.
This was the easiest weekly of all time?
I just take Bulwark getting the Thunder Hammer just being further testing for 2-handed weapons.Still praying for an Eviscerator in the future.
>>545157328i wouldn't have known, i only do normal.
>>545157436dont worry i have a cousin whos gay and we baearly bully him so you will be fine
>>545157328I remember the first Obelisk weekly being "simple" but this was still when I wasn't used to Chaos Spawns.
An interesting idea they could do for SM3 is give each class a sub-job like in Vermintide 2 that lets them take different weapons and perks. Like heavy becoming an inceptor and getting a jump pack and being able to plasma exterminators or assault bolters. Or Assault becoming a Vanguard Veteran and having a hammer a storm shield. Lots of potential there I think.
>>545115083Most of the time it segregates the low levels from high levels and keeps teams locked so the low level team just gets stomped until the lobby dies.Also the spawn system is retarded, because enemy teammates can swap your spawn just by going near it. This leads to both teams swapping the spawns rapidly, spawning on top of eachother, and turning one of the spawns into a blender.If you want to unlock every weapon, it's a huge grind. Even if you wanna get bare minimum stuff so you can really start to compete, it's gonna take a lot of matches.It can be very fun though. Assault's actually really good there because his jump pack gets a third charge and charges extremely fast. The dash is actually really useful for getting away Tactical's the only class that can hold two nades which is huge in pvp, and he can highlight invisible snipers through walls.Heavy is unparalleled in dps races cause of his shield. And his plasma and melta are almost as insane as they are in pve.Vanguard can grapple the terrain, get over high walls, and get his own crow's nests he can share with assaults.
>>545157942The assault's forward dash is great for chasing players who get away from an initial ground pound.Playing Bulwark is also fun because you can soak up so much range damage and by the time you get to melee range people will end up trying to fight you. So many melee range duels is in favor of the bulwark because Power Whirl is just guaranteed to win for whoever gets it off first.
>>545158340Sucks how simple the melee is in pvp.If you're "dueling" a guy with a thunder hammer or power sword that knows what they're doing, and you only have a chainsword or knife, you automatically lose.You can parry, but it doesn't stunlock or build adrenaline, you just kill their damage, but you don't have time to counterattack, just continue parrying until someone saves you or you die. If you try to counterattack, they'll just take the hp advantage and outtrade you with melee.If you're both using a chainsword or knife, it comes down to who landed the first melee attack. You're stuck spamming melee on them, cause if you start to parry and they know how to melee in pvp, again, it's over unless you get saved, which won't happen.Finishers and heavy attacks are only good for breaking guards, but they're not that great cause they're clearly holdover attacks from pve designed more for crowd control. You'll be trying to break a BW's guard, and he'll recover and get it back up by the time you recover from endlag.Also you can try to melee a guy, and he could just turn around, mag dump you, and win.Even if you land the first hit, and even despite how melee damage ignores armor, you can still get out dps'd by a bolt rifle. Let alone a heavy with a multimelta. You're dead in two shots flat.
>>545160651>tfw you have to try and melee a heavy with multi meltaIt's a real fucking shame we have so many cockmunchers that dont want the chaos skins in pve. All that work in a dead mode just to have it locked to said mode.
Seems the way to go this weekly is>Bulwark>Heavy>TactStacking up on those plasma cannons + flamers since getting headshots is significantly harder against chaos. I think there's a stronger case for plasma for Tactical today since you want to stagger ranged Terminators.
>>545162027you can solo carry with multimelta heavy really easily
>>545161665Yeah you go on the echo chamber (official discord) and try to talk about it, and lore fags will talk down to you and explain how it's actually good you cant put a normal right tacticus pauldron on assault's right shoulder unless it's bonding studs or the shitty siege pauldron.If it were up to them, we'd still be stuck with pure MK10 shit like we were around launch.Also, they're fucking retarded. Saber already breaks lore rules. They already let us wear chaos color schemes and chaos emblems. Just full ass it already so you don't see world eaters in pristine MK10 armor with hornless helmets in pve.Like, I'm sorry Saber didn't make separate sets of ops with CSM chatter dialogue and a chaos thunderhawk.So that means chaosfags just get fucked and are stuck playing the badly designed, barebones, pvp until the end of time? Fuck that.It's really not a big deal that I'm a fucking straight up MK10 night lord in pve, but it is if I want to wear lore accurate armor on my night lord? Suck my fuckin cock and just add chaos customization to pve already, like you should've done at launch, you retarded fucking slavs. The vocal minority of autistic loreniggers are wrong and retarded.Again. If it were up to the discord trannies, this game and every 40k game would play like deathwing. (Lore accurate but so terrible to play that melee combat in its entirety is a noob trap)
>>545073297We made top 20, so I think Executioners MUST be added to the game like RIGHT NOW.
>>545097980>The helm stripe of the Lamenters' original colour scheme was dropped completely.I hate GW.
>>545113135Because you are not normal.
I know we got the full perk list for Techmarine but did we get his prestige perks at all?
>>545119195>vanguard has a skull face helmet, perfect for a chaplain>doesn't have any ornate doodads hanging off his armor, just pouches and grenades
>>545164947No prestige perks, but based on his standard assortment of perks, he probably has some fancy unique ones separate from everybody else. Huge advantage of coming after the prestige update, your shit gets tailor made for you.
>>545165351>he probably has some fancy unique ones separate from everybody else. Huge advantage of coming after the prestige update, your shit gets tailor made for you.or they will forget about them, like they forgot to add red/blue/white skins for new weapons, and add some last-minute random assortment of things,
This terminator a custodes?Why are they killing 'menters?
>>545167961Badab War.Lamenters, Executioners and Mantis Warriors had the most horrifying time imaginable getting their shit rocked by Minotaurs and the Carcharodons, complete with Tyberos the Red Wake out on the field.Pic related, just to emphasize how much of a shit stomping they got over a simple misunderstanding.
>>545167961That's a Minotaur, and the Badab War is the reason the Astral Claws went renegade and became the Red Corsairs
>>545167961That's an Iron Los-Minotaur
>>545168621>Fire Hawks>Raptors>Salamanders>Sons of Medusa>Minotaurs>Carcharodons
>>545167961>>545168621But that can't be the badab war, those are primaris.
There's probably going to be a community blog this week covering the end of the PTS, feedback, and showing off some more shit.
>>545170239A lot of fan art is made by newer fans who came in post-Primaris. The card games for example are rife with inconsistencies.
>>545168621Qrd on minotaurs? Their lore sounds like Spetsnaz
>>545170613Chapter of effectively lobotomized space marines that, based on their numerous and immaculate equipment, are probably in direct service to the high lords of terra.They most prefer fighting other loyalists.
Lamenters have the faggiest heraldry good lord. Even Fulgrim's legion of human fleshlights for Slaanesh is less gay than a literal bleeding heart.
>>545170613Glownigger chapter for Terran nobility that probably do some heinous shit but it's all promptly erased from record.
>>545171467It's weird to me that the two other complicated designs from that line got their heraldry simplified and made easier to paint, yet the Lamenters were never adjusted. The Lamenters are now considered one of the hardest Chapters to paint all because yellow is a bitch, and their shoulder is annoying.
Why is all the firstborn stuff so much cooler than the primaris shit?THIS is how you gaudymaxx, not the champion we're getting now.
>>545171467Literally me after I entered the fandom at dawn of war 1 and started looking at chapters in my teens.When you grow up, your favorites start to look boring, and you start to appreciate the shit you thought looked lame initially.
>>545176198I'm 35. My favorite chapters are the Grey Knights and Novamarines. Nothing about Lamenters can be appreciated.
>>54517619820+ years and I like black templars just as much.
>>545176029I feel like I'm the only person that doesn't mind the Primaris. I get they're a cynical cash grab in the ttg, but they're cool in everything else.
>teammate and i die from convenient stunlock lash nidders>moron assault is far in the back for some reason>he's there long enough that he lead the nidder horde away and come get us>doesn't>dies to 3x biovores and neurothrope spawn>leaves immediately>mfw
>>545177213Based. Chaos ain't gonna purge itself, brother.
>>545177215I'm still okay with them, I just think they're a serious downgrade in almost every way, even if you disregard the terrible lore. I'm sure the little figurines are higher quality but I only play the vidya games and I think the old designs used to be a lot cooler. That angry helmet, those more imposing proportions, the rule-of-cool gothic extravaganza isntead of a more reined in tacticool approach. I liked that.
Why does Guilliman tolerate Cawl?
>>545177035Blood angels are rad and their aesthetics are rad.Yellow is an underrated primary color that contrasts great with everything, plus blood and gore looks great splashed over it.Checkerboards are cool, and the chapter emblem looks awesome.What's not to appreciate?
>>545168621The funny part is that out of the four secessionists, only Astral Claws suffered losses significant enough to endanger their chapter (had they not been declared excommunicate traitoris).On the other hand, Fire Hawks were down to 20% strength, Star Phantoms below 30%, Fire Angels were forced to withdraw early, and the Raptors force got almost completely wiped out within 2 standard years from their arrival.
weird, just finished a substantial ops with my sniper + bolt sniper rifle, but my rifle didn't get any exp. is this a known bug?
>>545178749You say cool and underrated but I just see a clown on the battlefield.>>545179031Not a bug if you didn't kill enemies with it.
>>545179025Yeah, the secessionists actually did really well considering how stacked their opposition was. Had the Minotaurs and Space Sharks not been there, they might have actually won.
>>545179156oh damn I just put the enemies into execution and let the melee bros deal with them
>>545179339baboso
>>545179025I haven't read the Badab war books. How did the Astral Claws convince 3 other chapters to fight against so many highly venerated and well known chapters?
>>545179156Wait, you have to actually KILL enemies, not just deal damage? Fuuuuuuck. So if teamniggers steal your kills you are fucked.
>>545179740I'm aware the Lamenters were roped into it the way a sad bullied child is roped along by a manipulative sociopath. The Astral Claws were the first Chapter they ever had a close bond with, or that was what they believed. The reality is they were just being used for bodies on the frontline.
>>545179740Astral Claws, Lamenters and Mantis Warriors were originally in the right, although Huron was a bit of a douche, which caused him to eventually commit all sorts of heresy as the war dragged on. It was all started because of politicking from the neighbouring sector and Fire Hawks being retard mode.Executioners were indebted to Astral Claws for saving their chapter 2 thousand years ago and they are just honourable like that.
>>545179156One man's clown is another man's landsknecht.
>>545179743that doesn't seem right. there's no way my ranged weapon exp is similar to melee if that's the case
>>545177215The aesthetic downgrades of the space marine armor itself(which GW carried over to firstborn armor after the fact) are just fucking abominable.
>Tactical with Aligned Aim and Melta Rifle>Shieldnigger Bulwark who rushes far ahead, spawns a Helbrute and eats shit>despite the gangway fork guaranteeing a Helbrute spawn idiots still split up and eat shit from spawning TerminatorsI've also played a Sniper with Las Fusil holy shit
>>545185938Las fusil used to be top tier.What's wrong with it now?
>>545186809It's only useful for Zoanthropes and Neurothropes, useless against ChaosI played a Heavy Multimelta and those two idiots were fucking useless, Tactical kept spamming auspex at disc Tzaangors leaving the rest of the team vulnerable against Terminators and SorcerersI hate Shieldnigger Bulwarks who rush far ahead spawning massive waves, they should just set to private lobby if they're not going to be team players
>>545187067>cant solo carry with two of the best builds in the gameskill issue
>>545187067>Las>Useless against ChaosSkill issue. Literally the best Terminator deleter in the game.
>>545187067>Mongo-Melta Heavy calling anybody else's builds bad
>>545187920>+75% damage on 10m or less>bad
>>545188093You're sacrificing range against a faction whose biggest threats all beam you from the back line. It's nonsensical.
why is the carnifex pulling his claws out of the ground such a long ranged attack fuck off saber
Do any of the chapters involved in the Badab war have campaign badges for it?
Block Power Axe in U11 seems to be the most well-rounded melee weapon in the game in terms of actually playing like a melee weapon. Good cleave, huge damage, alternating heavies and lights constantly procs the "last light chain deals 25% more damage" perk, having access to riposte means it's not cucked out of a response with the removal of gun strike because you power back step into the forward lunge dealing double damage + 90% damage etc.Power Sword looks really lame now by comparison.
>>545178725Because Cawl's the smartest mother fucker in the galaxy and is like the only high up Mechanicus that's willing to invent new shit and not be a slave to their retarded "faith".
>>545190630Tzeentch is smarter.
Novamarines are underrated. I blame the colors.
>>545170376It'd be funny if this was just the Minotaurs fucking up some Lamenters who had the misfortune of accidentally coming across Moloch randomly or like, there's a meet up and they just so happen to cross paths.
>>545190487>Devs accidentally bumble into making a melee weapon goodHow many is that now?
I want to go back to the PTS.
>>545190487Don't worry, they'll catch on eventually and make 'adjustments' so that it feel and functions almost the same as other melee weapons. No fun allowed at Saber.
How does one get his Marine up on the DudeWall site? Who runs it?
>>545196326You have to hide a tooth under your pillow before you go to sleep.
>>545196326>Display your marine with no UI elements by pressing inspect>Take a full sized screenshot, do not crop>Post it and say dudewall in your post
>>545196326Nvm, I got to the instruction. Forgive this brother a momentary retardedness.
>>545196462Thanks! I sure hope Trazyn won't come and collect it!>>545196582Thanks as well!
>>545194860what weapon
>>545198195fire rate fusil
>>545196326You have to post your dick with your full name and address in the Discord.
Is the Xenophase blade worth it? I've heard mixed reviews when it comes to Bulwark
>>545199716bad on bulwark because balanced is unusable due to shieldfine on assault
>>545200734Assault sucks tho
>>545201236correct
>>545200734Stop caveman fisting your button. Balanced is fine on Bulwark.
>>545190487Wait, they are removing gun strike?
>>545201853No, Block weapons don't get gun strikes on perfect blocking. The point being made is, thanks to Power Axe having the power stance into riposte into overhead strike, it doesn't need it, and in fact deals way more damage than a gun strike for what's basically the same move in terms of function.
>decide to grind out all missions on absolute>beat half of them without much issue>get completely hard stuck on the other halfHow???
PTS ends today or tomorrow right?
>>545206147in like 6 hours or some shit
>>545207209I can't wait to be disappointed by the next blog post ending of the PTS.
To the Anon who told me that the Xeno blade is shit on Bulwark, i don't appreciate you lying to me
Easiest weekly hard strategem in like 3-4 weeks.Had to buy the other relic chest piece to free up points for next week.Heroic Thunder Hammer, HPB, Heavy Bolter, and Instigator next week right? And the dumb Power Fist.
>>545211516>dumb power fistIt's crazy to me they thought this was a good heroic. It's not even close to a side grade. It's straight dogshit.
God I fucking hate playing heavy. I just want my last prestige.
>>545212019You have to wonder if the only reason the Power Fist hasn't been nerfed yet is because the devs can't actually figure out how to make perk + talents combos to make it work because they're dumb.
Finished the weekly stratagem but I think I'm just finally over Chaos Spawn completely.Far too many can spawn on the field at the same time and hound you with what feels like a 6-8 combo pulled out their ass on top of the delayed attacks.Either they need to cut the combo in half, or cut the amount of Chaos Spawn that can spawn to be half the amount of Tyranid Warriors that they're supposed to be the chaos version of.At least with Nid warriors they have the benefit of killing minoris around them if you manage to take them out, Chaos Spawn are just an over-tuned pain.
>>545215110I feel like the devs finally cut us a fucking break after the past few weeks of complete bullshit modifiers.
I prestiged every class I'm fucking free
>>545215110The audio and visual queues for Chaos Spawn really fuck with me in a mixed melee. They warn you well before the attack starts
>>545219968>tfw still havent leveled sniper or vanguard because i hate phobos
>>545219968See you for the techmarine update It's going to be such a shit show to level it doing anything but private games.
>>545220146The smart thing to do would be to introduce a new weapon so other classes would have an incentive to level it up when the techmarine spot gets inevitably taken up.
>>545219968Welcome to where I was like a year ago or whenever the fuck they put in prestige classes. I had all that shit knocked out in the first week. All weapons, all classes. I have all the heroic stuff and all the weapon colors.
>easy as fuck modifier>joined game in the battery train sectionoops i cheated my way to my first hard strat ever
>>545167961I love how almost all the fan art wanks the shit out of the Minotaurs when the actual battle was an ambush wherein the entire Minotaurs chapter of nearly 1200 marines attacked a single Lamenters ship only for the battle to last 17 hours and result in the Minotaurs suffering 50% casualties compared to the Lamenters losing around 200 dudes.They surrendered because they did the math and realized that despite the enemy losses, the Lamenters started the battle with something like 300 battle ready marines. They were going to run out of gas first despite having a 3:1 kill ratio.
>>545221061The more I hear of the Badab War, the more I'm convinced Tzeentch has cursed them with eternal bad luck because the Imperium would have won millenia ago if they were at full fighting force.
>>545221410The Lamenters I mean.
>>545221061>Iron Losers job to unlucky Blood AngelsKWAB
>>545215110It's actually not all that hard to fix them. Reduce the damage, that's it. On harder difficulties the amount they take off from an unpredictable tentacle whip is rather extreme. If they hit players a lot but don't do very much then it becomes viable to slug it out with them, which lets them offer some gameplay variety for this faction.
>>545221030Good work anon
>>545221410>>545221506That's the running theory
>>545221410Every single battle they've taken part in has been absurd Hollywood tier heroics.>Got abandoned by their allies who decided ceding an entire sector to a black crusade was a better option than fighting next to the Lamenters, then proceeded to hold the line alone for six weeks until the White Scars and Ultramarines finally showed up>Received a distress call from a planetoid held by orks during a WAAAGH, got told by Calgar that no one was available to help, then cut through the ork forces and accidentally defeated the entire orkish force by fighting so hard that the entire WAAAGH had to turn around and try to stop the Lamenters from ripping and tearing hard enough to scare Khorne, giving the crusade the chance to obliterate the panicked orks>Got trapped in the warp for over 100 years but suffered surprisingly few casualties AND had exactly zero marines fall to chaos before the ruinous powers got fed up with them and spit them back out>Pulled a sneaky quick one on the Red Hunters chapter, who had been sent to secretly tail them during their post Badab years by not only revealing that they knew the other chapter was there the whole time, but bringing Kraken with them to both defeat the nids and teach their shadows a lessonEvery single time they've taken the field, they completely demolished whatever it was they were fighting. If Tzeentch is fucking with them, it's not out of amusement but out of wariness and concern.
>>545203179Well they've been making ops longer and with harder gimmicks in them (relic lantern, trygon, vortex beast) as they've added them.No sections where you get help from guardsmen or a naught like in decap and atreus either.Hopefully they get the message to chill and make another decap after the operation poll they ran picked it as the #1 op.All the kino ass sections where you helms deep defend against a million gaunts like in inferno, decap, and ballistic engine are all only in vanilla operations too.
>>545212679I've been procrastinating my heavy for days.I usually smoke up to it, then pass out after one operation, then smoke back up to one more before passing out for the night.At least Gravis starts to really look fucking sick after you unlock that breast plate that lowers the hood.I'm sort of excited to see the swag they give tech, but it's Saber, so you never know.
>>545224347It's at the expense of them dying to a man every time. Whatever the admech did to fix their geneseed so they wouldn't get the red thirst it cursed them to eternal bad luck.
>>545212019I don't think any of the devs can actually play this game at the highest levels.
>>545227876i dont think they play the game at all
>>545226204All the AdMech ended up doing is making the red thirst really weird.Instead of turning them into ravening, gibbering madmen with an insatiable hunger for flesh and blood, they instead fall into ultradepression and get buttfuckingly pissed when their enemies won't hand over all their blood so the poor lads can drink away the sadness.
>>545222538thanks it's good to play with other bros who knew what they were doing
if blood angels werent the scions of Sanguinius, they would probably be culled long ago, wouldn't they? i mean as early as right after the siege because they did turn rabid on fucking terra in front of all their allies
>>545229935They go to great length to hide their flaws. The Red Thirst is something they mostly can handle and a marine going extra murder mode is fine considering space marines only go into the most dangerous of battlefields. The black rage they hide and mostly send the Death Company on suicide missions
>>545233878all the imperial fists and white scars and the imperial soldiers on terra saw them chimping out though
>>545234360You mean during the Siege of Terra, 10,000 years before when this game is taking place, when their Primarch dies, and the Emperor gets crippled? Pretty sure everyone got a pass for unusual behavior considering the circumstances
>>545229935Most Blood Angels are honourable who feel legit shame over their gene flaw and do their best not to harm civiliansThen you'd have assholes like Flesh Tearers and Angels Vermillion who needs to get culled by the Minotaurs and Carcharodons
The loading times in this game are fucking ridiculously long.
There's been 10 weekly hard strategems so far. Which ones stood out to you guys the most?>DifficultWeek 1 Inferno with the unkillable lictor while basically being blindWeek 5 Vox Lib with Extremis mobs around every cornerWeek 8 Inferno where 1 armor and less health means you die to concentrated minoris fire>CakewalksWeek 2 Exfiltration with Imperial GuardWeek 3 Decap with loadsa ammoWeek 4 Obelisk with class restrictionsWeek 6 Decap with no rollingWeek 7 Termination with tougher parry windowsWeek 9 Exfiltration Great Responsibility because played it solo lelWeek 10 Fall of Atreus with point blank modifier
>>545227876That's why the training room is arguably the most important update this game is getting. Presuming you can set difficulty as a modifier, the fuckers can finally see what we've been experiencing in a safe space.
>>545237102Training arena should function similar to training mode in fighting games>being able to spawn every enemy, including multiples within reason>have a ping setting because 0 ping means you're running solo; maximum of 400~ and standard at <50>have damage values on one side>have key and mouse presses on the other side >being able to reset the session with just one press of a button>all weapons automatically unlocked and switchable on the fly>perks carry over>enemy can stand still like a training dummy or attack normally as they would in a normal game with damage values scaling on the selected difficulty>have stratagem modifiers as options
>all classes leveled to prestige 4 level 25>all weapons capped out at relic>all armor unlocked>all heroic weapons unlockedFinally, now I can play the game.
>>545238586play...for what?
>>545234707consider the top brass at the time>Emperor: mangled>Dorn: ultra depressed>Gulliman: didn't see the blood angels behavior and sanguinius was clearly his most favorite brotherit makes sense how the blood angels got away with it. also they routed the traitors during their episode
>>545238696FunAs tactical and bulwark
>>545238696enjoyment?
What's the "quickest" mission to power farm EXP solo for when the Techmarine releases? Ballistic Engine?
>>545243592vox liberatus
Praying for all the prestige 4 console players who still don't know how mortal wounds work.
>>545243592technically, yes. below absolute you'll probably have better time with decap because of no terminus spawn>>545243630i think you meant reliquary
>>545243630>Need to wait by the altar twice>Big elevator RNG>Relatively short Daemonhost fightIs it shorter than Ballistic Engine? It only has two sections where you have to wait around in comparison.
>>545244315>i think you meant reliquaryI swear that damn mission makes me sit through at least 3 servitors and 3 servo-skull scans minimum.
I swear to God this game is fucking deteriorating. It runs worse every time I play it at this point.
>Saber adds akimbo bolt pistols to AssaultDo you piss, shit or cum?
So, every single cosmetic pack released so far has been based on official upgrade packs for Primaris marines.What the fuck are the devs gonna do for the Carcharodons and Raptors? Neither of these Chapters have that kind of merch.
>>545246573>saber does [anything] to assaultI kvetch on /sm2g/
>>545249092The community backlash against Assault's WIP dash attack was so abrupt and violent across the Focus forums, here and Reddit that there's no way that shit isn't getting turned into a flaming shoulder bash that just implodes whatever you hit.
>>545170240>yeah so it came to our attention that some weapons are overpowered in pts now. to address this problem and ensure the game remains challenging :^) we decided to extend the pts period by two more weeks. expect the worst offenders nerfed in the upcoming patch, coming to pts next week. see you, space marines!
>>545249461>Saber when they can churn out this kind of bullshit to fill community update with
>>545249461I don't think they would want to delay the patch until American Thanksgiving, too many players would be busy
>>545250663They've already said the patch wont be out until the end of November.
>>545224347>Lamenters are extremely basedyesThe universe rightfully fears Blood Angels that can control their black rage
>>545224347>Shortly after abandoning the Lamenters to their fate, the Mortifactors ended up losing their homeworld to the Tyranids>In their attempt to avoid bad luck they ran into Karma instead
>>545247735>What the fuck are the devs gonna do for the Carcharodons Normal armor pieces but with more bones and big teeth Maybe some parts of mk.V powerarmor? Carcharodons were often depicted wearing those>and Raptors?More unused phobos bits from the vanguard task force kits
>>545236002>Week 10 Fall of Atreus with point blank modifierI can't beat it on hard. Every time a helbrute spawns my team disintegrates
Anyone know if buffs are additive? Like if I have a "Receive -25% ranged damage" perk and a Heavy has "Team receives -25% ranged damage" does it halve all ranged damage?
Shit like this is why Assault doesn't get touched.
>>545257926Assault are mid tier in PvP tho
>>545083339>Legion of the Damned is still in the public eye. Makes you wonder why nothing of note has been done with them.>inb4 they were spotted on Calth in that Uriel Ventris novel or in Fall of CadiaPart of their cool is that they almost never verbally interact with anyone, but give more prominent background role or in case of SM2 make some cosmetics with flaming gear. They'd rake so much money on those.
>>545257926pvp is literally a different game. classes in pve in pvp have nothing in common other than names and models.
Why am I sometimes unable to skip through the results screen and need to wait the entire timer to go back to the battle barge?
>>545259207because the host is a nigger and doesn't know/care that he should wait for other people disconnect from his lobby first so that they don't get loadingscreenlocked
>>545259542*for other people to disconnect
>>545224892>Hopefully they get the message to chill and make another decap after the operation poll they ran picked it as the #1 op.That's what I've been pining for since new operations started being added. Just give me a wide open, clear line of fire and a gorillion little shits to exterminate ffs.
>>545259669that reminds me, why is nobody talking about the new nid op here? The only post i saw was anon complaining they skipped the boss fight.
>>545249445There's absolutely nothing they could do to it that would make it good because it will just be a worse bulwark shield rush.
Iron Hands Bulwark looks kinda cool.
