The nightmare is ongoing... >>545068363>Current Featured Banner/Upcoming BannerHaru - Striker - Justice - Until 11/12Yuki - Unknown - Unknown - Leaked/Expected around 11/12>Current Events/Upcoming ContentA Flickering Gleam on a Rusted Anchor - Until 11/12Galactic Calamity Seasonal content (Gives one 5* dupe of your choosing per season) - Expected around 11/12>Basic Guides and Introductionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-0CaRtTTpQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDFkvOXO2Jg >Deck building simulatorhttps://czndecks.com/>PC Client (Stove)https://www.onstove.com/en/download>Reroll guidehttps://game8.co/games/Chaos-Zero-Nightmare/archives/559640>Reroll tipsReroll Beginner Banner for desired character, Standard banner to guarantee two 5 star start, or reroll for HaruYou have enough rolls to finish beginner banner and one 10 roll on limited banner (You can still luck yourself two 5 stars through beginner banner)>Cards aren't savingCards saving scales to chaos difficulty and if Deep trauma mode is on (purple icon on top right of chaos team formation)>Apology Stream Summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvkE1KHHwFg&thttps://pastebin.com/U2Cg4hDC
What is the best team you can possibly make WITHOUT Mika on it?
Whores.
how much money did you guys spend
Leaked characters and datamined stuffhttps://arca.live/b/chaoszeronightmare/152382290?cp=2
>>545084443>avatarfag actually spent gems on standard banner
>>545084651I've never spent money on gacha and never will
>beryl that low
>>545084651like 80
Finally a normal ass thread
>>545084651Nothing yet. Im waiting for more info on the reworks first.
>>545084758OHNONONO
>>545084712Hugo being in S tell me everything I need to know about this dogshit list
>It's been an honor, Captain
Post em
>>545084690A bunch of these are in the game already, I like 2 of them. Some look unfinished like the cat eyes girl
>>545084690Holy mesugaki
>>545084651Just the BP for more material. Not sure how I feel about monthlies. If they gave 60/80 stam everyday, I'd buy them in a heartbeat, but they're just more pulls>t. gameplay autist
>>545084804Renoa stop... Why are you staring at me like that?
>>5450846510 unless they make the monthly pass give 30 rolls worth of gems.$5 is literally a game in steam. $5 for 18 shitty rolls that you have to wait a month for is retarded.
>>545084651Monthly + BP.
I can understand the gacha pricing if the game really cost 34 millions to make, but it sure doesn't feel like it.
So, is the resource farming in the game as bad as people says? As in, to strengthen characters. I'm done with the Genshit grind, I don't mind it when it doesn't take a fucking month to make a character barely usable for endgame.
>>545084651Monthly + BP, thinking of getting that 10 roll too
>>545084651About 15 dollars I think. The monthly crystals and the pass.
>>545084873Doktah
>>545084614Mei Lin + Cassius. They use 0 AP, and I can easily play 12+ cards on turn 1.But despite playing so many cards the damage output is kinda average.
>>545084983nah, game's been out for 10 days. i'd wait for the first event to judge that
>>545084651This is a side game so 0. Only playing since I got really good rolls
That one anon was right, this is definitely his best epiphany. I didn't realize that the damage boost was Futilities created, not Exhausted.
>>545084978no shot this game cost 34 million to make, unless it was like over 3 years
9 days
>>545084983Epiphanies and frags are pain in the ass
>>545084983The people saying its bad is because the game has been out for 2 weeks and people are playing so fucking much and pushing everything to exhaustion that it feels extremely grindy.Specially since this game doesn't heavily shackle your progress with artificial timegates and lets you play however the fuck much you want.
>>545084647Roll-roll-meh-roll-mehskip-roll-tenecute-meh-meh
>>545084983You can get a character to 50 in about 2 days, probably less if you do your 2 cheap refills.
>>545084983Not really.
Thought on most popular character in CZN with most fanart, Hugo?
Which row should I focus on? First gives +1 excursion permit and more items at the shop. Second one increases the chance of special policies.
>>545085197What's with the doll like joints? Like there's lines around her tits and shoulders.
>>545084978I've seen 42 million and now 34 million claims, and no source. So I'm not inclined to believe either
>>545085197>anti-gravity tits
>>545084651$1,000.
>>545085108Ok but like why didnt it launch with an event tho
Wtf you guys told me Protos doesn't have his time manipulation ability anymore? >chigga is too strong Protos is forced to use rewindHoly Kino
>Fantastic Tressa run>Excited to start getting epiphanies>Get one bad draw against fucking giga nigga>Diei fucking hate this nigger so much
Best team members for Renoa?
Is the plot supposed to just... Stop after you beat Judas? It's kinda weird that it's stuck before actually completing Chapter 5, so I dunno if something bugged out or they decided "eh, let's just leave Chapter 5 at 69% completion, that's good enough."
>>545085405>>545085420Its probably a half ass stitch from the leaker
>>545084651I'm close to dropping $200 to max out the standard banner selector....
>>545085421What does your roster look like?
man, the first 2 banners are real stinkersharu does nothing for meneither this cowtits girl
>>545085456given the state of the translation on launch and all this gook grama I'd probably guess they needed more time
>>545085405its old wipthey will probably make it betteror worse
>>545084712>Amir that lowWhat went wrong?
>>545084983Once you actually have built characters, you'll be swarming in resources.
Why is "charm" a mindbreak?
Weird how that smile is being used by cuckposters nao same thing happening to the spade
>>545085456You don't rike 50 gem a day?
>>545084651I will wait until I use all of the free roll first…and when I have enough money to spend on ha ha game…
>>545085539Based pedobro.
>>545085460>that fucking 3fps ragdoll at the endStraight out of a gmod ytp
>>545085598Melanin.
>>545085497You get send back to blue pot to beat this Chigga>>545085459This is where Protos time manipulation get show to us outside of Reona trauma code.
>545084870Shitposting blind retard /vmg/jeet.... He's in B....
>>545085563would have also helped for the 35-40 hole honestly
>>545084651Like 50
>>545085539I don't understand why they thought Haru being the first limited character was a good idea. She is just so boring
>>545085197stupid fucking whore pig slut FUCK SHE'S SO HOT
>>545085608think violence fags and bloodlust
You're going to have to spend summons for better partners sooner or later, /czn/.
>>545085598I was scammed. I wasted a ton of exp on her and magna and maribell. I hate the guy who shilled them.When I hit lv 40 I will be struggling to level characters up.
>>545085539
>>545085598Nothing, really. The only things working against Amir are turn limits and morale stacks.
>>545085528In a chaos run so can't access it but I've got everyone but Rin, and Mei Lin is the only one I don't have a ego for. Everyone is bare minimum 1, and Haru is 4. I'll post it after my run is done.
>>545085808if this is anything like genshit, weapons are only important if you intend on using the character it's BiS on
>>545085764most of the standard banner char are betterlegit retarded
i can't clear 10 at all
>>545085796do you think she has a pierced navel and pierced nipples?
>>545085808Haven't needed them so far, and frankly I doubt I'll ever do so with the way the banner works. Not being able to target means my luck will hit the partner for a character I don't have anyways.
>>545084651$5I'm not spending more until I see how they'll handle updates now that they have to rework the whole story
>>545085965navel for surenipples I hope so
>>545085965Azur Lane's pieced tongue slut has canon pierced nipples, so hopefully.
>>545085965Navel, nipples and clitoris.
FUCKERS YOUR THREADS ARE GOING TOO FAST.
Im surprised Rin is a standard launch character.Sexo Schizos are usually only teased a bit and then released when they know the playerbase is low on pulling resources.
>>545085804I can understand being surrounded by horrors beyond comparison and panicking and lash out indiscriminately. But charm?
>>545086054Babies first new game general
>>545086054it'll slow down soon. dramafags are already leaving
>>54508465120 bucks.
>>545086054When are we getting Rabi the rabbit girl from the greatly successful entertainment software Epic Seven?
>>545085563they shouldn't have launched so quickly after launch. they basically changed nothing after all the negative feedback they got.
>>545086079Game clearly had an identity crisis halfway through making the cast. Renoa, Owen, Mika and Rei and a few others feel like they're from a different game designed for a different audience which was invaded by tittymonsters. The upcoming characters are all huge titty women as well Not that i'm complaining
Stella Sora already has swimsuits. When is CZN adding them?
>>545086054should have seen /gig/ in 2020. launch period was faster than several boards combined.
>>545086054Suffering from success.
>bored>do some random chaos because why not>get what could have been the perfect data for my Reiannoying. this had to be ruined with the basic shit
>>545084651Monthly pass + BPWill probably drop more money when the Jap whore comes since I’m planning on using my seasonal dupe on her
>>545086079Downside is that she isn't tuned to excel at combat atm.
>>545086267Holy fuck I just realized I'm not playing a Hoyoge and we might actually get bikinis in this game. If it survives until Summer.
>>545086189Bwo? Your Carroty?
>>545086380Zzz has swimsuits...no one cares about zzz
>>545084647>No LucheGRIM
>>545086441He said bikini, illiterated scum
>>545086441If it was Lycaon or Manato they would have actually gotten some fanart maybe at least...
>>545086441I know, but they're not bikinis...
Protos, surely you aren’t sending your combatants into the chaos zones wearing only a skimpy bikini, right?
>>545086258grim
>>545086380We're not getting swimsuits, anon. Koreans won. This is grimdark from now on.
>>545086593you don't get it. one time they got bullied for not wearing a bikini and now they get ptsd whenever they don't have it on.
>>545084690WaitWhy is Nono in thereYou're telling I'll get to mindbreak her at some point?
>>545086593I have a plan, trust me. You don't understand.
>>545086380True
oh shit wtf u can unlock secret missions from policies? das gamin
Yuki better have some sexy voicelines
>>545086652Grimdark WITH bikinis.
>>545086593Skimpy bikini is how we fend off chaos.t.Experienced protos
Help me out bros... I'm so unlucky with this run.
>>545085197The Asuna of our game.
>>545084690I want that tentacle girl to peg me and rape me all the way through
>>545086351Who?
>>545086380Mei Lin in a bikini would break my cock
>>545086823I life the left epiphany
>>545086380In E7 some characters got summer alts and some only got bikini skins
>>545086768Holy shit it’s Chen from Arknights
Loving the game so far. How do I pick which characters to focus and which to ignore? I don't wanna go Prydwen, but I don't wanna gimp myself heavily either.
>>545086593The shit they wear already removes any sort of tension thjs game pretends to have. Swimsuits or bikinis wouldn't make a difference
Friendly reminder to treat your combatants to a nice meal before every Chaos run
>>545085528>>545085421Not listed is everyone else at mostly ego 5.
ok who can i use this bitch with
>>545086979I forgot that this even exists
>>545086380Smilegate only releases Braphog skins
>>545086968Like any other games. Focus on supports. Like Mika.
>>545086768>extremely tomboy-codedKinoooo
>>545086734Sex Creature
>>545086979I KEEP FUCKING FORGETTING THISwhats a good food for a chaos run?
>>545086968Ask your loyal and trustworthy friends here at /czn/ of course!
>>545086979Unironically can’t afford it anymore. They’ll have to starve.
>>545082489It was probably the equipment and gear bags.
>>545087138as with every single game that ever existed+7% damage
>>545086258Rei has huge breast, so does Mika, so does Tressa, even Renoa is huge. Blind anon...
Btw, completely unexplained, maybe slowpoke but still mentioning it:Bold text = affects every cardNon bold text = only the userPic related is an example. Left is for him, right is for everyone
>>545086946How about this?
>>545087134>tomboy>feminine chink haircut>massive tits out>string out??
>>545087138atk naturally, however defense is also good if you're running shielders.
Combatant for this feel?
>>545087292left
>>545087163Yeah, only a dude has replied anon so far it seems
>>545086842The one on the left
What the fuck is this shit
>>545087337Renoa
>>545087012Didn’t roll for partners?
>>545087337Literally Mei Lin with me
>>545087416happened to me too anon, fucking schizo monster event
>>545087337rin when you refuse her for babymaking sex after the 4 other instances in the same day
>>545087275Btw is this right that every character needs to have a minimum of 6 cards in their deck for save data?
>>545087305For discussion sake's. tomboy is pretty different as a concept on the east.
>>545087337Unironically khalipe.
>>545086593I'm sending a literal child.
>>545087416
>>545087409See you in 8 months
>>545087484No, I've seen save datas with 4
>>545084647Tenebria is not a whore or a slut.
>>545084690i don't understand with their design decision...Annika and Milia is okay but the rest?
>>545087518Ok but you're not sending her in a bikini...Right?
>>545087437Only Haru's. I've got every non 5 star partner but her. They don't spook you in the character banner, thankfully.
>>545087518Nooo, I don't want to see a loli get guro'd after chaos run fail
>>545084647Twintails mogs all of them and it's not even close.
>>545087632she's a partner
>>545087101They should to this but have Maribell actually fart
>>545087518>>545087715nope she has animation and skill images
>>545087715No she's notWe already know what her first mindbreak looks like
>>545087781grim
>>545086978Oh come on.Most of the characters look completely normal. It is only a fraction of them that even look skimpy.
The AI is so fucking bad at using Rin...
fucking hell these kind of suck
>>545086230she's so cute...
>>545084690No one looks good here
>>545087781Mika is getting MOGGED
>>545087902?
>>545087902I'll use her alright
>>545085164I prefer ephemeral over it. Thats the 2nd best.The point is to giga gas blackhole(360 60%scaling) by turn 2-3 to be 1500% minimum using the exhaust oath. Which also makes brand free as well.On twilight basin 10 for the rotational one. With better gear could probably beat it but only so much gear and potentials can do at lvl 44
>>545087910anon, mid is one of the best
>>545087337Khalipe.
>>545087589I would if I could.
>>545088017okay, hopefully the boss doesn't rape my team in this chaos run...
>>545087558Oh ok, good to know. I was watching one video where dude said he left 5 cards in the deck and then game automatically put in a trash card at the end of the run. Maybe he confused something
>>545084906Wasn't she in the story?
>>545087953>AI jeet doesn’t even play the gameGrim…
>>545087518>>545087781is she gonna be a better mika?
>>545085187>300+devs >High profile company that pays good salary.>Multi year endeavorIt adds up and makes sense.The game will stick around until they at least make profit but the company keeps a lot of their stuff around anyway
>>545087910The middle one is an upgrade bro. That means every single round you get to do 200% to someone for free.
>>545088135Yeah, she's (or was I guess) part of the operational department
Ok, but when are we getting their expies in CZN?
>>545088156>>545087861>>545087952
>>545088129depends on the save data cap, on a low one he might see a 4 cards deck as OP as fuck and nerf it
>shitposting stops>people can freely talk about gameplay againi'm noooticiiiiiingggg
>>545087952>>545088156She mogged her so hard Mika started developing insecurities from losing to a X years old loli.
>>545088316wtfdo you guys actually want to see a loli get mindbroken
>>545088281Luna will be limited and withheld for a hot moment. But i get the feeling they will pull the same with tenebria.No clue on yuppie
>>545088178renoa keeps getting ALL the fucking upgrades, my nia is drowning
>>545088316hugobros... we have another wife for our king
>>545084647I like the girl with the portrait.
>>545088316yeah. healer like Mikaif she regenerates AP is to be seen
>>545088404>where do you think we are.jpeg
>>545088332SEAniggers asleep is the best time everywhere
>>545088404no
>>545088281I know nothing about E7 how popular are they?so far its Kayron and Tenebria
Captain could have the potential to be a chad like Counter:Side's Administrator/CEO
>>545088404Do you not>>545088517Luna and tene are probably their oldest and most recent top earners for their release banners and ml versions
>>545088316We're getting Cardcaptor Sakura?
>>545088517Who's the cool albino guy with long white hair? I've seen some webms of him and his ults look cool.
>>545084647will we get more males
>>545088404Yes.
>>545087137Who is this?
>>545088629Ml, moonlight. A dark/light version alter ego of the chara.Twisted eidolon kayron, hes normally fire and has a valentines skin
>>545088629that is the MC Rias
has anyone fought this dude?
>>545088634Furry guy Karl and the elf so far
>>545088571Is that the illusive man or what?
>>545088634I doubt they'll go out there and just say it like the Brown Dust 2 devs but I doubt it, not for a long time at least
>>545088316me on the bottom left
Why are epicshits like this
>>545088281Didn’t you get the memo? All the dragon girls are partners.
>>545088449That is not an upgrade...Upgrade cards have UPGRADE in the name like the other one you posted, and they are buffs that last the entire battle after you activate them once bwo
>>545088783Hes bitchmade and crumbles easy
>>5450846516$ on the two starter packsskipping the monthly 5$ for now until we get some events and new stuff
>>545088783No, but I went for a beer with him a few times.
>>545088779>Genesis RasWhat the hell has been going on since I quit playing...
>>545088874their general is dead so they go attention whoring here
>>545088634Elf named Arthur and this dude are in the leaks so far
>Khalipe's trauma treatment has her bite your arm to bring her back to her senses>She says she's sorry and that it's stupid of you to risk harm to yourself>"oh haha funny animal girl">You can offer to let her keep biting it>She unironically starts cannibalizing the flesh straight from your arm>It's the "good" choiceThe fuck?
EpicGODS rule this general
Are there any elf girls for us in the future, elf enjoyer bros?
>>545088908sorry i meant that renoa keeps triggering all the special card *upgrades*, not that the card themselves are upgrades
>>5450889427th anni new ml unit alongside new ml meru.Hes free and u just gotta do busywork to unlock him. Extremely strong
Fockin Hell
Does this game have Chinese characters?
>>545088316I expect gore webms the minute she comes out
>>545089025100% isn't good, it's just the most combat ready.They're disposable soldiers, not just your girlfriends.
>>545088813perhaps
>>545088968Pic related is Arthur
UHHH THIS ISN'T GAYRON?????? What fucking team do i use with this chick?
>>545089075Not too bad at least. It is one of the better strats to just tunnel on one of the characters and make them as op as possible each run so you can get a good data save.
>>545088968They couldn't remove the extremely gay cat ears and give him normal colored hair?
I’ve rolled Lucas 5 times in a row and I’m finner kill myself.
>>545089119mei lin
>>545088968>Furry owen
I tried your game. It's alright. But>endlessly grinding the same stages in hopes your RNG rewards get RNG saved>do this for every character in the gameNow that's just DOGSHIT design kek
>>545089025Demi-humans, not even once
>>545089119yes
>>545089215Veronica and Rei Veronica and Mika (chaos)Rei and Mika (chaos)Veronica and Selena
Non-E7 bros, would you roll for Rabi?
>>545088968He will be a woman on release.
>>545084651Monthly, battle pass, and new captain support packs. So $21...so far.
>>545089179Holy shit, that yeeyee haircut
>>545088764>>545088779And who's this guy splitting planets in half? I want him
>>545089394Is this her? I can't believe she's actually pretty cute, I never saw her non-rabi version before
>>545089294That's why you don't do it much at the start. Why bother grinding decks with low save data? Just do the bare minimum until late game.
>>545089372no veronica here, guess i will pair her with mika and rei, or level up selena too
>>545089294damn it's almost like it's some kind of... roguelike?
Just play epic shit if you like them so much nigger.
>>545084651Monthly + PassIf I knew this controversy though I would have waited the rewrite first
>>545089532
Everyone has Mei Lin and Rin but me
This Rin + Cassius + Nia comp has gotta be the least auto friendly comp in the game. Every time I've watched a round of auto it does the dumbest shit. How is this comp anyway? I feel like Rin's damage isn't that amazing for all the setup it takes
I'm about to get fucked here
>>545089516Straze the WOMBSLAYER who cucked (You) out of Bellona. She was your main wife at the time and she became completely infatuated with this guy.
>>545089568Yup, that’s her. The supreme dogwalker.
>>545089568Yea that's rabi.
>>545089681meds
>>545089516Straze
>>545089681she has good taste because I'm infatuated with him right now
This is your beautiful and faithful wife Renoa after the rewrite.
would
does the epiphany effect for this card work on retain or when activated? because the middle option would be pretty good, no?
>>545089681>E7fags pays for this shitKek
>>545089568Why does Rabi not wear any underwear?
>>545089680NYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>545089625I got E1 Mei today.
>>545089808Sturdie or Softie on that card are the best epiphanies.
>>545089608W-what's in her mouth
>>545089783What happens if i remove the flower from her head?
>>545089783I love my canon wife Renoa
>>545089776This is him being completely possessed by Fastus who's the one giving him his powers.
>>545089841she died as a village girl and got turned into a demon by an apostle, tenebrae i think, been awhile since i played
>>545089681I NEED Lidica in this game.
>>545088156She doesn't have glasses so no.
>>545089853>mythic defense on your damage dealerYou deserved it.
>>545089681>Shota spottedImport all of the best E7 boys!
>>545089810E7 is not a harenslop game and has no self inserts. Every character is themselves and have their own relationships.Some couples, meru ras, bellona sez, violet luluca, ran amid, pavel cerise etc.Regardless that retard is trying tk create nonsense.
>>545089681You mean Roanahttps://cdn.donmai.us/original/dc/0a/__roana_epic_seven_drawn_by_tsuzuri_tuzuri__dc0a7a06c4dce0178d2f4d13a2333422.jpg
>>545089929
>>545088783His offerings are too good.
>all the shit of the stream yesterday>Nikke small pp controversy from 2 days ago was also realConspiracy theorists keep winning
What are these? Is it actually straight up buying the partner? Also is it worth spending these... film reels on them vs the ego manifestations?
>>545089598What rewrite?
RELEASE HER
>>545089929Her hair. You can literally see it. She is biting her own hair strand.
>>545089949The first full transform / install combatant...
>>545085598You can't get consistent damage out of her main metalization mechanic because it drains too fast without max dupes, so the epiphanies that focus on that are bad, but if you can get good ones on her damage dealing cards and dupe them she can carry her weight.
>>545090190Spermia, my beloved…
>>545089841Underwear is cumbersome. All you need is a tabard
>usual NTR post stop>Epicshit spam startCoincidence?
We're in hereThe best CZN player is streaminghttps://www.youtube.com/live/UzXL1XUpyvw?si=ZnMJ3Fwd_dNtknxO
>>545089932It would be very stressful
>>545090169Yes it's buying the partner. The little brat doing the cat paw is pretty awesome for Hugo but have a read through all of them as they're clearly designed for a specific character each
Im going to drop this game if it becomes an expyfest.
>>545090218that would be Luche actually
>>545090269cute Kikuri expy
>>545090318Buy an ad
>>545090269Unironically the most SEX female in the game.
>>545089649Rin is pretty bad from my experience, it takes so much to get a god setup and you're praying you don't keel over by then.
>>545090169Thats a personal call.Every new char will come with their own new partners and its not unreasonable to suggest that they would pair with old ones ppl at some point.
Is this a good save? Its low TB but seems good?
>>545090396Too bad they nerfed her looks..
>>545090316this is a fatalcuck post
>>545090357>Luche can do all that special shitWhat was even the point of involving Nightmare?
>>545085197what element?
>>545090510green flavor.
>>545090510Grass
Ia it better to merge 4* partners pr keep them seperate?
>>545090510poison
>>545090510Order
>>545090570>>545090596>>545090629Perfect for my non-knotted account
>>545085197what a pig
>>545090454the save value doesn't really mean much at all
>>545088783He sends you away with his first attack
>>545090510semen
>>545088783I tried once, but he retreated after one turn/getting hit once (not sure which), and I got nothing. If he's scripted to retreat after one turn, with the right deck he can be OTK (he had 2-3k hp iirc) I think?
can the gooks complain enough so they remove the 50/50? rolls are expensive as fuck
>>545090182TLDR:CZN has 10 writers that can't get anything done, story got revamped over and over, they fired the one writer that was lovecraft-focused (he got hired into Blue Archive), our story in Chapter 4 is a piece of shit, koreans attacked CZN for all that and a bunch of conspiracy theories (most of which were true) in a stream yesteday the escapegoated Producer admitted most of the above really happened and the original plot was going to be involving time travel (hence the lyrics of the trailer being ''No Reset, No Rewind'' and ''This isn't a loop, it's what I choose''), the game underwent 4~5 rewrites and was rewritten about 2 months before release even, this is why our plot is a disjointed mess, Producer promised that they are going to rewrite the story by the first half of 2026.He denied the AI allegations in spite of admitting all the above.My theory: this is just the tip of the iceberg. You don't admit a bunch of shit like that unless there is something even worse you don't want exposed. This is the true reason they are appeasing the korean fanbase so much, because korean detectives are really good in digging up dirt.
>>545088783omg it's john void
>>545090454Looks good for pure damage
Realistically speaking, how was he supposed to respond to this without sounding like a hypocrite?
>>545090654good, I don't have Hugo and I intend to keep Luke permanently mindbroken
Is blue pot supposed to be arbitrarily harder than other chaos worlds? I've been trying to make a selena/mei lin/cassius team in chaos and it's not working. Should I just switch to mika for easy chaos runs?
>>545089179Made to be buttfucked and his knife ears used as handlebars
>>545090936>"cry about it."
>>545090936Helping isn't a binary, you don't need to go full retard and sacrifice people to fight the chaos.
>>545090779>This is the true reason they are appeasing the korean fanbase so much, because korean detectives are really good in digging up dirt.Koreans discovering that corrupt political shit after BA's change of age restriction still feels so surreal
Who is it bros
>>545085367middle for obvious reasons
>>545090779I only missed a few days here and everything goes crazy. This news isn't exactly comforting. I hope the rewrites don't fuck over Mika, she's my favorite so far.
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>545091048Apparently Nyx is the better one of them.My dick choose Priscilla tho
>>545090936Reading Chapter 5, there is no answer that doesn't get met with a worse counter.Judas exposed Orlea's revelation was a prophecy of ruin, Judas has been attacking Chaos like crazy because no one else is willing to make sacrifices for that, Judas brings up the girl he killed voluntarily agreed to be used no different at all from our team that is willing to die for the cause, Judas points out Orlea made us search the tome in hopes of seeing something different which she didn't (which is why she was glad the tome was lost). Luche just said he was abusing the wording or some shit like that.For all the stupid shit in this game since Chapter 4, he is the sole guy that makes any sense.
>>545088968owen but cooler
>>545091048get the best stat stick for your dps
>>545091048The one for your team.
>>545085938If you can't clear this by november your account is bricked in some way
Playable Judas when?
>>545091126Boy you have no idea.
>>545091332One can only hopE. Next male is probably karl or whatever. The furry dude but human.
>>545091139>duplicated monster cardsWhat the fuck
>>545091353Wow, that looks really shit. Who's this supposed to appeal to Poison Ivy simps or what?
>>545089808>for eachfor each what?
>>545090936Easy rebuttals:Moral highground, Luche also utilises this viewpoint herself later on. Even though the Protos is a human artificially altered to fight chaos. They have a lot more agency in their actions, and they also don't sacrifice innocent lives in their cause. Protos field agents who are completely aware of the risks and are provided protection from death. Judas is preying on vulnerable members of the church, people who would always follow his commands, and kills them and sacrifices them.Rational perspective, A being made to tackle chaos that benefits everyone by surviving has nothing to do with the sacrifice of innocents where you benefit from their death actively.Purely emotional/subjective, Argue that the church disagrees with his methods, that you and your crew did only what was right, and that his rhetoric is meaningless and only serves himself. Throw in a couple lines around Luche I guess
>>545085938Just get a better build lol, it's piss easy
>>545091353Luke nooooo.
>>545091187But why be so antagonistic? Why not just sit down 5 minutes and explain all the shit is wrong?
>>545091446>get a haircut dumb idiot
>>545091026Yeah. This is why some game devs don't take any risks whatsoever and try to dispel accusations ASAP. Gacha games are serious business for whatever reason. Koreans are schizophrenic and overblow any of this, but the problem is that some of those absurd things you wouldn't see even in fiction are reality.And the moment they got their noses sniffing CZN it didn't even take a week for them to respond.
>>545090454Good save for Beryl is the one with bunch of 0 ap neutral shooting cards.
>>545085938Vincent cleared it at level 30 without meta units and all units below 30k CP
>>545091353That doesn't look good. Are they planning to go full edge when they do rewrites? Because that's never fun.
>>545091519
Yeah, this is somehow perfectly ok.Nothing wrong here
>>545091614That was the original gameplan. And toned down to attractive pansies like you.
>>545091623I cant really take this guy seriously.
>>545088968>scytheneat>homonot neat
>>545091623Judas is based. euthanizing via Chaos is based and redpilled.
>>545091667These nigga only show up in blue pot so why not stop going there if you don't have AoE dps?
>>545091519Okay so, bad writing aside, he knew neither Azelante nor Luche would allow any of it.
>>545091667free rape
>>545089932>>545090325Agreed.
>>545091667AIEEE OWEN TASKETEE
>>545090936This is one of the biggest example of shit writing in the story. 10 fucking people were hired and payed wages to come up with this garbage.>Main character stammers like a retarded child when receiving the most minimal and obvious and easily counterable pusback
>>545091841Which is why he tried to hide it. And when caught still continued because he believed he was right and it would be for the greater good.
>>545091729I like the dark vibes but going full edge never helps anyone.
>>545089783>>545091919Lady, at least stick to one dress.
>>545091965Its not full edge, its failing so you reset til u get it right. >Simple who lets investigate that flower.oops, its poisonous. Die>reverse time try again.Having death art isnt edge
>>545091796They show up in city of mist too...
my favorite node
>>545091954I'm a big fan of>Oh that's weird we somehow lost Owen in this extremely dangerous swamp>oh he's over 2km away suddenly? erm awkward>"haha yes I wish that I, the captain, could go insane and have a breakdown at this moment"personally
Khaos Sloppa Nightomare....
>>545091954Yeah>>545091961Yeah>>545091729Makes me wonder how much of Judas' plotline was intended. In the past cutscenes they talk about their Protos, Luche's father, being repeatedly distant as if he could feel something outside. His actions are due to an unavoidable future.And time travel WAS the original plot.If the flower designs are about having to try and fail over and over until we could successfully rescue the Wolf Platoon, which would explain some of their lines like ''my brother died!!!'' then it could mean time looping would be explored against that prophecy Judas is trying to stop.
>>545091667Maybe bring the right combatants, draft your cards/equipments/epi/common cards better next time. We know the fight(tm) is more or less unavoidable.
>>545091954all the characters turn to the captain asking what to do next>uhhhhthe part where they all split up for no reason in chaos and then at the end of the chaos level they are like, yea that was a retarded idea captain lol, was also very funny.
>>545088968
>>545091954>>545092202>>545092394We at Simlaegate want to sincerely apologize for that scene. Upon reflection and after hearing from members of the community, we understand that it may have caused distress and reopened painful memories for those who have experienced bullying. Bullying is a serious issue that has lasting effects on people’s mental health and self-esteem, and making light of that experience was inappropriate.
>>545092320Also gives the mc a unique ability to the team aside from being the link to outside the chaos so the team doesnt mindbreak.He would use his power to reverse time every moment they failed until they succeeded. And would explain why hes supposed to be a cut above the rest of the protos
>>545092394He just wanted to be alone with the group of the hottest girls. It was a brilliant plan.
why does judas have that transformation in his phase 2? did diallos transform him
>>545091961>chaos kills hundred of people>can seal it with one (1) (uno) sacrifice>but you are a bad guy if you do itits literally the same bullshit logic as heroes not wanting to kill villain because it somehow make them like him
>>545090169It's 30 pulls, so it's always "worth" but it also depends on you
>>545090936>I'm not here to carry anyone's sins but my own, you should do the same.
>>545091954Why do we even need 10 writers? There isn't enough content in the game to justify that.
>>545092680Each character gets their own writer?
>>545092452You just know they’re going to make him meta…
>>545092775He's never coming out bro
>>545092671>Owen, carry Renoa
>>545092632Except that he is not really sealing it. He is making it stronger.It is a shortsighted 'solution' that is only going to cause problems later and all those lives were wasted.The fact that he relies on tricks to do it is also bad. Also, it is not just one life. He sacrifices countless people's on the procession to get to that point, using plenty of meat shields to get there.The Protos death squad is the obviously superior solution.
>>545092765Owen's writer was banging all the other writers...
>>545091139how the fuck did you do it while having equipment of that rarity too? pure luck or is it the lack of divinations?
>>545092671OW THE EDGEyo this guy reads SOLO LEVELING
>>545092842He's gonna be a woman on release.
what is "chaos" exactly?is it something like zzz's hollow?
>>545092452damn he's coollooks like a mage or something
>>545093035Basically imagine an Outer God, a giant squid monster, invaded our dimension. It warped up everything near causing people to go insane and mutate as well as the planets as well.Each Chaos is like a planet that got corrupted into being such a domain.
>>545091667overwhelm is a good card, bro.
holy get fucked
I'm too dumb to complete a chaos run without Mika, It feels like playing DD without the vestal
why one of the leaked girls looks like a ben 10 alien. those big hands are weird
>>545093176>>545093035and the chaos made its own gods
I randomly stumbled upon czn on a meme about Trickal (great cute game, not for me sadly). The slay the spire but caught my eye and it was an instant download for me (I'm a roguelike and deckbuilder sucker even now, balatro goty lol).I absolutely adore this game. Like, genuinely. I havent stuck with a gacha in years, but this one hooked me in a way nothing else has. It felt like it was made for me: the psychological counseling mechanics, the Slay the Spire-style gameplay, the dark cosmic horror vibe, the stylish (and yeah, sexy) designs, everything just clicked. And the story? Unpopular opinion but I was kinda invested. Been years since I read every paragraph in a gacha gamr. I loved that the characters had real dynamics with each other. They weren’t just cardboard cutouts glazing the “Captain" all the time (although there is a fair share of that). They joked, argued, comforted each other... Just like what a team going through life, death and insanity would. They felt alive. Owen felt kind of an adopted son character. Renoa and captain dynamics was very endearing, kinda like definite they will marry vibes. It stood out from the usual self-insert harem formula every other gacha drowns in.Now they’re nuking all of that. They’re gutting everything that made this game feel different. No more natural team chemistry, no more banter that gave them depth.. just a sanitized world where everyone exists to praise you. This was the one gacha that actually respected the player’s intelligence. It didn’t shamelessly pander or treat us like thirsty perverts (story wise). It had heart, tension, humanity. Now it’s being rewritten into yet another empty power fantasy.I’m heartbroken. This was the only game I was playing right now. Im just glad I didnt spend any money on it yet. If this really goes in the direction I think its going, kill off owen or make him a busty babe, I'm honestly quitting. Just for a few incels we are forced to lose any good characterisation.
>>545093261Can't blame you cause we don't have many dedicated healer options.
>>545093307This is a reddit copypasta I can smell it
this turned out much better than i thought it would
>>545093261you need to nuke enemy if you dont run a healer
>>545093307posted it again award
>>545093307THIS, sister. Look at all those cute boys and girls that should be with each other, but instead Korean "men" are breaking them uo.
>>545093261We should have an occultist-like healer purely for the memes.
>>545093406And has been spammed earlier today
>>545092394daphne and I will check the bedroom, velma and shaggy check the haunted basement scooby doo moment
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1omeict/characters_that_previously_sparked_controversy/?sort=newIT'S OVER>500 comments
>>545090123>>545089810E7 has no self insert ANYMORE because they killed him, BIG difference.One that no E7cuck will ever let you know about to save fave
>>545093307Ddi you copy pasta this from somewhere?AnywayThey said A LOT of things in that stream, covering a lot of topics, many of them were extremely valid and reasonable.The bit about character relationships wasn't even 5% of what they covered, and it wasn't entirely unfounded either. Save for Renoa, the Captain does feel somewhat like an outsider most of the time.I think a lot of people are falling too hard for memes and reaching conclusions without evidence.Not everything is about koreans NTR-fags. There are legitimate issues that were addressed and that people have been pointing out since release. Maybe chill out a bit before reaching the worst possible assumption and treating it like fact.
>>545093307Pasta, but at least it wasn't written by ChatGPT
>>545093354She's a healer AND an ap battery, she literally is the most broken unit in the game, she fit in every single team, and I have no idea how are they going to relegate her from her role
>>545093307can't believe a gay jeet is calling people incels. i seriously doubt that guy is getting laid
>>545093481>broken cards but raises stress of party members
>>545092857no really, who wrote that? a woman???not even talking about owen here, but who in the fuck, with military background, would reduce their fighting forces from 3 to 2 to carry another member, instead of the one that is clearly able to and is not a fighter??? it makes no fucking sense
Anybody else run into this issue where the game lags out and never progresses? I even ended turn Khalipe just standing there forever? It only ever fucking happens on that shitty ass stove launcher, never on my phone.
we do be saving
>>545089081have they added any new dragon girls lately? those 3* were the last ones i saw
>>545093261And? Just take Mika with every team in chaos. There's no issue here since you don't need 2 separate teams for chaos.
what the hell is this darkest dungeon shit
>>545093528Kill yourself cuck
>>545092842He's coming out sooner and gayer
Dunno what drama you guys are talking about, I skipped all the story so far. Only play for the gameplay
>>545093681Mika's drooling mindbreak face is so hot
>>545093681Yes
>>545093660Yeah but it's a huge problem in hyperspace.
>>545093307>>545093406it's the post from some unironically gay indian from reddit
>>545093786For me, it's the nun
>>545093307
>>545093618Please understand, Renoa is a fatass and Protos is weak.
>>545093930Made for analingus along with Mei Lin.
>>545093746
How do you use these things? Do you HAVE do use it from the promotion menu?
Purchase on phone so it's counted in trackers, or purchase on Stove-sama's launcher so EZN gets bigger share?
The worst part about rewrite story is some asscrack going to pretend current story is any good just to go against the gooks.
>>545093517THIS is the audience threatening to boycott. Literal f2p and troons.
Oh lawd it saved the Gear Bags.Time to have some fun.
>>545094035Literally Yuma
>>545094089When you try to do an upgrade (promotions) and you don't have enough of a resource, a prompt appears offering you to use these in place of the materials you lack.
>You never escaped the nightmare
>RedditYou need to go back.
>>545094148Keep crying. Owen :pinching_hand: is killing your game.
bro we were denied a writing MASTERPIECE, just look at what's remaining of the old script@it's all dogshit regurgitated tropesWhat I don't get is where the assertion that previous script iteration wasn't unbearable garbage comes from.
Who's good for a second team? I'm currently using magna, khalipe, and mika.
>>545094128i use Phone simply because i don't trust Smilegate not fucking over their shitty client and someone stealing my info and also i have regional pricing through google play which is cheaper.
>>545094254dont use double tank, thats ass
>>545093681Is this shit REALLY necessary for the gameplay?
>>545094203I want to merge, but i want to redeem these for the lower grade materials but I can't find out how?
>>545094254Renoa, Beryl and Rei
>>545094148>the guy spamming this general with AI shit is an ESL jeetCan't make this shit up.
>>545091965>pissing off a giant alien deer and gets cursed to become a plant is edgeanon we aren't doing a revenge story where mc must slaughter everyone related to the empire with dark powers and 20 spikes on mcs body
>>545094247Nyo anon, please don't stop spending hypothetical money you maybe would have considered possibly spending, we need it.
>>545094339I think it's a pretty novel challenge to work around, and the fact you can get cheaper and immediate ults is cool. Feels hype when you recover from a break and then fuck up the enemy.
>>545086968Well who do you have? That said IMO you can not go wrong with Veronica and Khalipe.
>>545094353you can't transform them into lower resources to merge up. You can only use them when promoting a character.And I think you can only use them when you have no other options.
>>545094184Wait, what if they make Owen like Vector.You remove him from the party without outright deleting him and also make him have a more interesting personality.
>>545094254Cassius with Tressa, they also want Mika but you could use Rei I guess.
>>545094337Not him but wasn’t double tank the best team for Khalipe?
>>545094520that's retarded you can't just redeem them whenever you want, I'm even forced to merge my lower mats instead of just letting me redeem them for what I want
>>545094254Renoa Rei Cassius>>545094394Do you have experience with that or just spitballing?
>>545094429Not yet at least but who knows now?
>>545093517>>545094148Loving the>uhhh, so I was TOTALLY going to spend money on this game because it has good gameplay, believe me gays>but now because the story that I fully skipped is being changed I'm not going to anymore>ugh, I hate incels!
>>545087194Likely the bait too as I never saw it before.>>545087484Nope but removing all the basics sky rockets your score so take care
>>545094672huh? You can just merge up or down, so it doesnt matter.
>>545094452Do we get stress heal character/items later? I saw a few cards but unlike DD where you can proactively manage stress with food/Bard, stress here just feels like an uncontrollable nuisance.
>>545094672You have to have enough to finish it in one purchase. It's 3:1 for a blue mat, and 9:1 for a gold mat.
>>545093628I did, I just closed the game and went back in, game lets you continue (sometimes)
>>545093517>wow i wonder what other games they play
>>545093517
>>545094908I don't want to merge, I have the certificates, just let me redeem the for what I want
>>545094918Best way to mitigate stress right now is being a shieldchad. Hopefully they develop the system more though, it was a big complaint from the beta.
>>545095023Why wuwakek love to dramafarming so much
>>545095023>femoidI never would’ve guessed…
>>545095023>wuwahusbandos>the subreddit dedicated to hating on WuwaKEK
>>545095047it literally doesnt make a difference? If anything, the other ones are universal so you would rather not use them.
>>545084647Where's the nipple company symbol lady?
Just read the notice about the change in story>Within the game's main story, interactions between non-protagonist characters will be minimizedYou will never be able to write a good story with that mindset, interactions and unique relationships between characters are one of the important things to make a good story, but from the start the story of this game is bad so who cares.
>>545094918So far there isn't much ways to actively manage it, but I heard the devs had plans to make it less punishing. Right now healing when you are injured reduces it slightly, but if you manage to fully block all damage with shields their attacks do zero stress. But you still take the mandatory +3 to a random ally.
>>545095153it costs me gold
>>545095023>retarded maldy redditor calling other people incels>check profile>member of r/[game]HusbandosEvery single time
Why can't SS Nightmare do more support? Are we really not equipping it with a proper weapon or something?
>>545095106It's even wierder because Hoyo stuff actively has ships and gays, why go to Wuwa the literal Solo Levelling harem game?
>>545095345I mean, it does shoot Chaos when it shows up
>>545095178game's story and lore is fucked anyway since the OG creator is gonemight as well make a shit story that caters to gooks so they dont send the trucks
>>545095079>>545095231I think the current level of punishment is fine, so long that you have tools to mitigate it. At the very least give option to focus on stress heal at campfire or something.
>>545095345That would make it too close to Counter;Side.
What does backline support mean? I can't seem to activate the additional damage
>>545095407those people dont want to consume anything, their only joy in life is inserting themselves in space they are not welcome and then complain about not being catered to and insulting everyone telling them to fuck off while acting offended on their high horse
>>545095413Does it really only have energy/ammo for that? Surely they can send a missile or other support thing, right?
well i waited for this game since it's announcement to come out cause i was expecting gruesome roguelike horror game with consequences. I hope if they do go with the rewrite, they understand, that a good story can't be told from one perspective. It needs to build it's world. Don't think it will go the full pander route since usually that's something i see chinese games do, but i'm praying
>>545095178The story isn't good but>interactions between non-protagonist characters will be minimizedis definitely not a good sign either. What are they going to do, ship the entire crew off?
>>545095623i'm praying to counter your praying.
all crybabies in the west amount to is seething in internet forums meanwhile chinks and koreans actually do some outright twisted shit
>>545095558Who knows... A lot of things in this shitty story got scrapped or brushed off anyway
>>545095707They get shit done
>>545095623>>545095645The CURRENT game already barely has any interactions besides most of the crew fawning over Owen at the moment anyway, or Captain/Renoa teasing.We spent most of our time with mystery nigga Chinese man anyway.
>>545095424As long as they don't change the gameplay i good
>>545095707Be happy that this isn't a game made by westerners
this game is too fucking hard bwos...
>>545095645Just minimize the slice of life interactions of male and female characters, I'd assume.It's the easiest way to fix it, as in, implement what they said there.
>>545095707mainly cause none of them have ever been punched in the mouth before. What happens when you're in a dystopia
>>545095920>Just minimize the slice of life interactions of male and female charactersWhy?
Which is typically more valuable to get a divine epiphany for? I beat the throbbing heart bug boss bitch and get to select one. Because I know in Haru's case she likes for Anchor Pointer to get it sometimes because it's the main tool for drawing her Anchor Shots. But which does Khalipe prefer it on, Rally or Vulture Shot?
>>545095468What do you mean, it's pretty straightforward. When an ally kills an enemy, you get a 20% damage buff on your next attack card. Also it stacks up to 3 times, but you don't use the stacks all at once.
>I am sorry for betraying you Kancho, I deserve this...
>>545095707asiacels:>yeah i don't like this. change it or i'll stab your ceo.westcels:>erm this is not good... here's $200 uh but yeah it's very not good please chan- oh you wont? okay i guess... here's another $200, please reconsider...
>>545095965Why not?
>>545095965because kr is mentally ill and cant stop picturing themselves in the cuck chair if a girl dare to talk to a guy
>>545095407The lockdown brought a ton of undesirable people to fandoms in general
>game gets darker>but also more ML panderingsimply put, it's time to get ryonapilled
>>545095994>It's OK Reona.>I understand you have urges and desires and needs I cannot fulfill.>It was wrong of me to get between you and Owen.>What you do in your free time is none of my business, marriage or not.
>>545084651$0 until I see updates on the story. Yes I actually care about gacha stories even if it's bare minimum it should be enough for me to keep playing.
>>545096036Because cast interactions are fun. It's a nice way to wind down between the more serious moments that I'm sure they are planning now. What's the point of having serious moments if you don't care about the cast?
>>545096091I mean, suffering and ML actually help each other very well.
>>545095980Both are fine desu. Id lean towards vulture since youre going to want to dupe it again, and you can dupe the epiphany version.
>>545095980rally can get a silver veil/heaven
>>545095996>erm this is not good... here's $200 uh but yeah it's very not good please chan- oh you wont? okay i guess... here's another $200, please reconsiderThat's JP, Shadowverse western side literally died after that stupid event while JP is still whaling even though they also protested.
middle or right
>>545095707WesternCHADS>Lives worth living and thus not willing to throw them away over retarded shitEastoidBUGPEOPLE>Third world shitholes, live in misery and thus willing to throw it away over retarded shit Really is that simple
>using the waypoint while mindbroken doesn't let you treat the unstablewell that sucks
>>545096390right
>>545096390left
>>545096390middle
>>545096213>>545096091I can save them all I swear
>>545096323Kuon Won
>>545096390Middle
>>545096092CHAOS GODSWE NEED TO BE BETTER CAPTAINSWHAT HAPPENED IN THE CHAOS DURING BREAKS STAYS IN THE CHAOS
I was sold on the idea of a setting about humanity being driven off Earth by eldrich horrors that invaded and took over the planet, forcing what little remains humanity into living on a space station. At least I think that was the premise (based on the prologue). All the initial cast are just humans. But then you get to the gacha, and do a 10 pull and suddenly you see all these furries, and some of them look so bloody goofy and cartoonish too. Like what, why are their furry people in this setting? Did they live on Earth humans too and got driven off into a space station alongside humans? Also there's apparently an alien race who look like demons who are friendly to humans for whatever reason. Like what the fuck is going on here? Wasn't this whole story about just humans fighting to retake Earth from ayylmao horrors? Why are there tons of other races? Where did they come from? Also there's an "Empire" a galaxy where all planets have been turned taken over by eldrich horrors and turned to literal goo. What the fuck is even this setting?
>>545096171Let me blow your mind with this one.You can have those same moments with the rest of the cast (male or female) with the protagonist participating as well. Crazy I know but most stories are written with the protagonist as the means for the reader to get to know the world and characters.
This is the 4th game that I played where they just copy this fight without changing anything.Is this just peak elite fight design?
>>545096171Current version already tried it and it clearly didn't work, and no one is even saying to remove them it was clearly stated "reduce"We don't even see interactions being talked about anywhere in the current version anyway, do you?
>>545096390Don't listen to those retards, right is the best so you can combo for 15+ hits on your kick
>>545096561tl;dr sorry chatgpt not tonight
>>545096390rightit's not highlighted but it becomes MoveMove bypasses Draw's restrictions on looping cards
>>545096398>kills his wife and himself because derby county lost at footyyeah lmao sure
>>545096576I keep forgetting all the fights are copied
Are we getting a new Chaos map?
Don't know why the writer went to BA. Heard Japanese people hate the new stories anyway cause the original guy left.
>>545096390right is the only correct choice if you're removing shielddraw can get cucked if the draw pile runs out of strikesmove just takes your cards back even if JUST got used on the same turn
>>545096323Even GrubHomo Collab doesn't shoot up player count and the earning is getting lower every month so...
>>545096496Well at least it got KMR out so there was a benefit to this farce
>>545095989thanks anon, me dumb. Didn't realize the owner herself also adds stack, I thought it has to be someone else's kill
>>545096619>We don't even see interactions being talked about anywhere in the current version anywayNot my fault you all skip the story.
>>545096323Keep in mind the head of cygames quit recently. probably cause of all his bad decisions.
Which draw engine support is better for Renoa; Nia or Cassius?Don't say both (no resources).
>>545096712Sorry, i'm not familiar with your brown parentage who did this.
>>545096398you're right i mean when you get no pussy and you work most of your waking moment it's gonna turn most people schizo
>when an ally doesWhat's that supposed to mean, allies can't dies your whole team dies and you lose or nobody does
>>545096857What’s your favorite character interactions bro?
>>545095707Don't forget the Japs who just tolerate and accept whatever slop they're given.
>>545096857Everyone skips the story.(You) included.
>>545096561every single race that could do space travel had to leave their planetchaos is a universal problem
>>545096878Cassius is just a better draw engine support generally but Renoa is one of the few characters where you can benefit from Nia's discard gimmick
>>545096390I might take middle sometimes if mei's deck is not really a saver cause it has a higher chance of winning a run probably, especially if I'm ap starved, however if you are looking for an ideal deck copying right as much as you can is broken.
Daily reminder that HuGOD won. Raped (YOU) in the ass and finished inside while OwenCHAD creampied your wife
>universal dupeswait a minutes does that mean that I can just max out my sluts once summer comes for FREE knowing them they might not be that OP but with free dupes they will shine their tanned skin and tits brightly
>>545093618Considering that he had to fight the boss right after as well, it was rather pointless. Don't know why they did that. Also why did he even give his core to Beryl? Don't they have spare cores on the ship?
>>545095424they should let everyone able to skip story instead of fast forwardcan't get exposed to even worse slops than chapter 4 if i can't read a single line from story, all i heard was empty promise from director hes going to fix the shit story considering the nepo writers are still there>mahou shoujo-ish form>very short skirtokay fuck yuki, big hands and painter girl i want her NOW i will buy the pakeji scumgate if you release her asap
>>545084614Tressa Hugo Orlea.
>>545097160we get one universal dupe for free per seasona season lasts for 90 days
>>545097221That's the bare minimum btw, we will definitely get more on special occasions
>>545093517While I understand that overfocusing on a faceless MC that has no distinguishable personality trait wouldn't make a good story (devs need to seriously consider making MC playable, for real, that way the MC can actually do stuff and take the spotlight instead of just watching like a cameraman) I think these people are simply afraid that the new changes would result in less male characters being added to the game.I unironically think if devs announce/tease romanceable males, the same people who whine about incels would suddenly turn around and say this game is kino or something. I've seen it happen with ZZZ, the moment Komano Manato gets an entire patch showcasing his big bara pecs and pairing him with the main character Wise, those people suddenly shut up.
What on earth is the purpose of the third epiphany? Is it calculated differently? The normal effect already covers ALL cards, why would I want to make the effect only work on passion ones? What's the advantage?
>>545096723Yes, new season comes with season limited cards too. But I don't think there will be new mobs, the game will prob mix two races into it
>>545097323>People want their tastes catered toMore news at 11 with Mr. Slowpoke
>>545084651Spending seems like a terrible idea until after everything gets redone.
there is no way they'll allow us to hold onto the universal dupe indefinitely
>>545097323>While I understand that overfocusing on a faceless MC that has no distinguishable personality trait wouldn't make a good story (devs need to seriously consider making MC playable, for real, that way the MC can actually do stuff and take the spotlight instead of just watching like a cameraman) I think these people are simply afraid that the new changes would result in less male characters being added to the game.>>I unironically think if devs announce/tease romanceable males, the same people who whine about incels would suddenly turn around and say this game is kino or something. I've seen it happen with ZZZ, the moment Komano Manato gets an entire patch showcasing his big bara pecs and pairing him with the main character Wise, those people suddenly shut up.Homofags are just pretentious retards that only take the high ground when they don't directly benefit, the moment they do everything is great
>>545097323>Manato/Banyuehomo is literally a r*ddit touristIt all makes sense now.
>>545097375It's genuinely useless kek, It must've been an oversight or something they forgot to add extra damage but passion only
>>545097476uh oh incel emlty
>>545097394>season limited cards?
>>545097375team buff
>Can't even greentext properlyJeetstatus, confirmed. As we all already knew.
>>545097394>>545096723yeah we are getting a new chaos, new enemies, new random events, cards and equipment
>>545097207>all i heard was empty promise from director hes going to fix the shit story considering the nepo writers are still thereThe blame rests solely on the Director. The retard unironically forced his own story script over his writers, conducted a rigged blind test, and screwed over his own subordinates. Now they are leaking everything in order to oust him because they hate him.The current writer (so called nepo) partly wrote Renoa's code and there were some decent lines in there. It's not perfect, but serviceable.
>>545097501Sometimes i miss Firefly. But seeing the state of hoyo in general makes me forget about it.
>>545097618More so they will probably rotate them out and mix and max, neutral cards that is. There is definitely going to be some seasons you want to build certain characters.
>>545097375It means it counts cards from your passion allies.
>>545097221>>545097321perfect I think that's enough + the 2 dupes for 400 a piece, hopefully I can get 5 dupes then buy her partner for 300this shit will be amazing
>>545097758>More so they will probably rotate them out and mix and max, neutral cards that isOoh this sounds cool. Right now lots of the cards are kinda weak compared to the absolute bullshit other ones have access to.
>>545084712>Hugo in BPeople really had no clue at all when making tier lists huh.
Uh oh loserkek melty. HomoGODs won
>>545097886Making a tier-list is just plain impossible right now.
>>545097394>don't farm limited edition card that turns x unit into godtier>permanently bricked latelets are going to be so fucked
Not amazing but step in the right direction
>>545097741Isn’t HSR on melty mode right now because of Cyrene?
>>545097886>50% chance to become deadweight in chaos
Guys should I drop more rolls into Harus banner for more Mika?? Shes E0 and the heals aren’t enough
>>545097836Honestly I don't think the dupes from the shop are worth 400. Partners definitely are worth the price though since not only are they cheaper but you also won't be getting spooked for them. Also you won't be getting free 5* partners on a regular basis either.
>>545093517This subreddit has become queenofx sub doesnt it?
Reminder that you need multiple type of boss material to upgrade one character in this thiny veiled jewish game
>>545097994id imagine they will have a way for people to access older seasons down the linedoes Epic 7 have limited content that gets reruns or something similar?
>>545097501Banyue kinda reminds me of Asura from Asura's Wrath
just sloppa all around jesus fucking christ
>>545098096In Epic Seven you literally pay crystals to access old limited events
>>545085808I'll just buy them from the shop.
R8 v2.0
>>545098084>timeJakarta doing fine?
>>545098045I understand it's weeb Slay the Spire but why are people playing a game with "Ero" in it's name whose cast includes sexualized barely legal girls and then complaining about it being too horny?
>>545098154welp shite
>>545098208Surely you are not this retarded
>>545098208He's right though, are you fucking retarded? You get 3 entries a week to get those mats and you are hard time gated for months to build just one character.
>>545098308tiny pistol
>>545098184It's ok, I'm now a Combo anchor shot believer as the best Haru build at least pre E2.
>>545098308>>545098389fuck off back to your subreddit
>>545088156She doesn't have huge tits so no.
>the shitposter is going to both /czn/ and /sora/How people deal with a life this miserable?
>>545098478How about you fuck off you retarded tourist, you don't even know what we're talking about because you don't play the game
I went to work and came back. I realize now I don't give a shit about this
>>545098389Have you considered that you’ll get more materials at higher difficulties?
>>545098476>E2 Haru soon.tm
>>545098526>peopleThat is your first mistakeI dont consider them human at allAnd since they are not human, why do you care about them?Do you argue with a dog barking at you on the street?
Bros? Thoughts on this item?
>>545098660It could exhaust your core card, happen to me multiple times
>2 vulture ejaculation>2 anchor pointer>final copy doesn't give me vulture or anchori'm so tired boss
>>545098660Crazy good item in certain builds. Can brick other builds.
>>545098660Pretty insane. An equipment that boosts damage that is not a weapon is good. Though this might fuck up your save data limit
>>545098184>crit anchor but no crit pointerProbably good if Haru's crit is high already, idkBut man, I really want to make the crit Haru build, but without E2 it just feels ass
>>545098607Even if they gave out 3x3 a week it's still a hard time gate considering that upgrade node is pretty early on, and all the ones above it need boss mats too.
>>545098660
>>545098526>How people deal(You) and the shitposters ruining the thread are all ESL browns. Unironically kill yourselves.
why that Meilin card looks like the arnold fist meme
Can any chads spoonfeed me on good comps? So far I've been running Magna/Mari/Amir counter attacks and I like it and it's still working but the fact that end game is turn limited has me worried that this is not going to last forever. I have every 4*. I also don't like the Tressa Hugo comp, I think I'd rather run Tressa Cassius.
>>545098660In builds that don't use Retain, very good.
>>545098867Not everyone's as great as you, Vincent.
>>545096576>Chrono ark never copied itTruly one of the few devs that has creative bones left in this genre
>>545098607Even if it doubled it still wouldn't be enough considering you need both bosses, anon
peak SEA hours
Damn Selena is good funToo bad I don't have any passion dps to work with her
>>545098909tressa/hugo/orlea can clear every content currently
>>545098984Browen your Owen?
WHICH ONEHELP
>>545098909Tressa, Orlea and Veronica
>>545099092Probably right, left ONLY works for Selena attacks.
>>545099092Depends on your team. I usually go with right cause Mei Lin has no AoE.
>>545098984Owen, bwo?
>blue pot second bosswhat the fuck? is this a AOE check?
Don't sleep on Kayron Rei Mika Fun easy and good
>>545099235It's reading check like every bosses
>>545095407Read nigga it's a sub dedicated on hating on wuwa, they don't even play, bunch of miserable fucks
>>545089932She dies.
>>545099031>>545099107There's really no getting around using Tressa, huh? Are there any good Renoa comps? I tried Kayron but I don't like that he clogs your hand with shit. Renoa kinda does that too, but at least they do something on discard.
>>545098660Good if you have lots of inconsequential cards like Tressa. Awful for someone like Beryl if you're stacking retains.
>>545099235That boss actually cucks AoE. You gotta take them out one by one.
If Owen dies I will raise him to clear one abyss in his honor.
>>545099235No. The way it works is you can only damage the left most minion, and when minions act they buff the boss with attack speed. You need to kill the minions ASAP and then kill the boss. If you have enough shields to tank the boss it's easy. If you have enough low-card burst or DPS in general to kill everything it's easy. If your DPS uses a lot of cards and isn't super high it's very scary.
>>545099235It's more like a DPS check
>>545096576whats the fight againbeen a minute since i played sts
Reminder that when a combatant respawns, their old bodies are left on whatever cultist and monster camps they died on.Imagine the delicious cannibal, guro and necro scenes...
>>545090169Yeah they're good.
>>545099312renoa/cassius/rei is very good
>>545099092Right is best, I got baited by left but it only applies to Selena's attacks
>>545099312Try Renoa, Veronica, Rei/Cassius. The usual suggested team is Renoa, Rei and Cassius but I think Veronica could be a good replacement for Cassius since you have her and she does better dps while also cycling cards.
>>545090936Apart from the many suggestions that other anons gave which would all be better than what we've had, at the very, VERY least, if you're an incompetent writer, make it so the Captain's reply is a simple "..." to keep things ambiguous, at the very least that would allow the player to speculate on what exactly we were thinking at that moment, whether it was "this person is insane and its not worth replying to them" or "Protos are so used to pain and pointless berating by the empire that they don't care when someone confronts them". They went with the worst fucking decision out of all of them "make him sound like a stammering fucking pussy"
Good morning bros, the thread seems to be comfy right now I wonder why.
>>545090316Stop noticing
>>545075542back from the dead to say SUCK IT
>>545099462>>545099502Thanks bros, I'll try those out.
>>545099312Orlea beryl is pretty legit but its kinda hard to play Beryl selena is really good as well (can also clear all content)
I wonder what kinda dirt those writers got on the director because holy fuck what a bunch of paycheck stealers
>>545099679imagine having 10 peoples work for 3 years on this and thats the slop you get
>>545099679There was a document leaks saying that Louise was director's self-insert and he was supposed to steal Renoa from you.Dunno if it's real or not but would explain why that dude rewrote everything himself.
>>545099670>Beryl selena is really good as well (can also clear all content)Tell me more about thisNTA but I'm needing a second team and have Selena built, most of my second teams kinda suck but I do have an unbuilt Beryl
>>545099363oh my loadout was too spammy with the upgrade cards then, i had like 6 i had to play before the ball gets rolling.
veronica please come to me
>>54509976710 people writing one story sound like a disaster
How good is this? Managed to get combo Anchor + 30% dmg god epiphany once but i died...
is there any other good beryl combo beside the extra attack one
>>545099874forgot your pic
>>545099312Renoa / Nia / Shielder is goated
>>545092775He will be Luke tier.
>>545099679There is not one single thing about the story that would ever lead anyone to believe that it was worked on for more than a month.
>>545099804>Promote the game is for (you)>CuckshitWhat the fuck is the ceo end game
>>545099679The director threw away everything and wrote his own script TWO MONTHS before launch and they had to re-record and redo everything.
>>545099874>>545099929Yeah...
>>545099235The real hint is to just end your turn early before the boss acts or else the boss gets a second attack.
>>545099869You can tell it's a disaster by how much the "the game used to have a time loop and it was removed when the old writer was kicked out" is brought up, but you find out that the game actually does involve timelooping in the level 50 epilogue and the reason you have amnesia at the start of the story is because Louis caused you to timeloop until you bricked yourself.
>>5450999052cost nuker, the one that only retains once and you use her with khalipe
>>545100079BASED BASED BASEDHe owning the incel so muchHe WON
anyone remember when videogames were for fun and not stocks you invest in and defend like your livelihood depends on it?
>>545100106StS didn't prepare me for this shit....
>>545099563You jinxed it...
>>545099651Her E2 also has a free exhaust every turn
>>545099815selena isnt just a meilin support as some people may make you believe, she's actually cracked and works for pretty much anyoneshielding, tons of damage, ap gen through breaks, it just worksas for beryl, she sjust one of the most underrated characters in the game, shes arguably better than haru until haru C2
>>545100079Bro wants to be KJH/Lowlight so bad.
>>545099971Pretty sure the problem was the lead writer leaving.
>>545100232Sorry...
>>545100228Play Chrono Ark not StS....
>>545100281>he wants to be a fat fuckLooks like he's already gotten what he wants then.
>>545100149As gooks have noticed there are traces of the old system all over the place.Memory fragments used to be fragments of memories left from looping infinite times.Time rewind in battle used to be the MC activating his power.MC's memory loss in the prologue was from him activating his power too many times.Manifest Ego used to be agents accessing their past selves.Epiphany used to be agents obtaining skills from their past selves.I hate the Director so much that fucker
you WILL get the snowbreak story rewrites, every man turning into a woman, and you WILL like it
>Blue pot is your first world>its filled with bullshit and rape monsterswhy though
If you don't add neutral cards, it seems your save data doesn't go high
come on
Who does rin pair well with?
>>545100462>t. has never played Snowbreak
>>545100479its the first world they made so its the most unbalanced
>545100462Actually they're going to all be replaced with gay furrys
>>545100479They really wanted passion characters to get raped.
>>545100607meant for >>545100462
>>545100479Because Blue Pot is supposed to be the most dangerous world for plot reasons.
>>545100552me
>>545100079>>545100149>>545100447its insane to me how this fucker isnt fired yet
>>545099651There is NO synergy there, what the FUCK???
>>545100462I mean there is literally 0 indication this will be the case, after all transforming men into women would just be opening another can of worms because it's literally mocking gooks.So the game has predatory monetization, workplace bullying, powertripping director, AI scandal, and the solution is apparently to... mock gooks as incels who would forgive everything by turning Owen into a female?
>>545100596all i remember is every other guy getting erased after a point and (you) marrying everyone canonically
this slop will get EoS EoY
>Giving it YousThe retards are ongoing...
>>545100736Rei synergises great with her though.
>>545099563do you have the one where she is hugging (your) head?
>>545099235I was stuck on it too. You gotta start killing the ghouls first, left to right. The boss has infinite attacks each turn, so try not to let it take an action before you finish your turn, otherwise it hits you twice.Yes, that means sometimes you gotta end your turn early.
>>545100447>Time rewind in battle used to be the MC activating his power.>MC's memory loss in the prologue was from him activating his power too many times.This isn't used to be, that's still the case, it just isn't revealed until you hit level 50 which is very fucking stupid. The other stuff might also be the case still and just not explained.
>>545100552She wants supports, draw power and buff supports particularly. We don't really have a dedicated buffing support so I just use Mica. As for draw power Cassius is unmatched.
>>545100814i don't see it
holy fuck, I just want ONEONESELENAI'M NOT ASKING MUCH
>>545100842This one?
>>545100831Beryl works better with Rin
>>545100149that's so interesting. Basically it's Blazblue timeloop shenanigans with louis as terumi
>>545100790>all i remember is every other guy getting erased after a pointAll of the male logistics (basically this games "Partners", except it's the "artifact" system, not the weapon) were replaced with females. >marrying everyone canonicallyEventually. Slowly working through the roster.
>>545100790Ironically this used to be the case with CZN? In those infinite time loops, the MC would romance countless combatants. Meaning your MC x Rin was canon, your MC x Renoa was canon, even your MC x Kayron was canon, but Kim Hyeong Seok threw it all away for his self-insert, Louis to belittle MC and flirt with Renoa.
>>545100650>Because Blue Pot is supposed to be the most dangerous world for plot reasons.This going to be FGO's burning Fuyuki all over again. Hopefully this gets resolved in less than 10 years.
>>545100953thats the one thanks anon
>>545100761>predatory monetizationI dunno senpai, we had a guy in this very thread clearing basin with starter characters without rolling at all.
>>545101065How the fuck is Louis a self insert? Dude’s a walking stereotype.
homos should just quit. only two unreleased males so far with like a dozen females in the horizon lmao
>>545101334>he's a gigachad>he saves (You) >instantly deletes the enemy>this allows you to save Renoa>...so actually he saved Renoa, not (You)>...later he also cucks you by getting with Renoa, that "canon wife" as everyone is calling her
>>545101065>for his self-insert, Louis to belittle MC and flirt with RenoaWhat? Louis is the primary antagonist at this point and killed Renoa a bunch of times what are you talking about?
No yous for retards!
>>545101334Because the cuck director self inserts as him, you'd know if you were keeping up with the drama.
>>545100462I wish Hugo was Helga instead.
OK WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE?
I thought they fixed this shit
>>545101609i'm not gonna believe everything they say. they are born liars
>>545101672what are your teammates? it makes a difference on what to pick.
>>545101334It makes total sense if you're mentally ill enough
Authorizing memory deletion of this thread.
>>545101702It was part of the leaks, read up on it in the previous threads.
>>545101672upgrade so that you can filter your deck betteralways upgrade no matter what
>>545101737meilin mika
>>545101536>he's a gigachad>he saves (You)He killed Renoa and your team and forced you to timeloop so many times you got brain damage and suffered from Amnesia. He's the primary antagonist at this point in the story.
>>545101747Shut it tranny.
>>545101813middle then
>>545101543Gooks found leaks (allegedly by disgruntled Supercreative employee) that contain director's story script with a bunch of unreleased concept arts. In the director's script, Louis demands to "rest with Renoa alone without (You) present".
gear bag is too strong, might have to give a little nerf if they ever do re-balancing
>>545089941>>545090139Where do you guys get these? I don’t see anything in the OP and sauce fails me.
>>545101879When does this happen?
>Transexual fantasies out of no whereOh yeah, real jeet hours.
>>545101879to be fair, you only know this when you reach level 50 no?
>>545101675why did you think that? you want stress applied evenly so everyone breaks in the same turn?
>>545101782it's just how do we know it's 100% the truth?
>>545102036yeah they said it was a bug and they fixed it on their patch notes.
>>545102003<I know this, because I'm talking about myself here.>
>>545101879So you're saying there are still traces of the original writer in the story, but they rewrote it and took credit for it
GIVE ME MORE STAMINA YOU GOOK FUCKS
>Gets no yous>But readily hands them outlol
peak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkfALVgWQNg fight me blue pot fags
>>545102230that's mean
>>545102121It's hard because gooks love shitposting and making stuff up, so the anons here just MTL random blogs and take them at face value, and then everything turns into a giant game of broken telephone.Half of the "leaks" are just shit made up
>>545101996Right before the start of chapter 1, it's why you have amnesia at the start. You don't find this out until the epiloge you unlock at level 50 though.>>545101974Source?>>545102172I have no idea how much is the original story, it seems at least like the presentation is horribly done.
>>545101879That's an artifact from the old script.
>>545102385https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EC%B9%B4%EC%98%A4%EC%8A%A4%20%EC%A0%9C%EB%A1%9C%20%EB%82%98%EC%9D%B4%ED%8A%B8%EB%A9%94%EC%96%B4%20%EC%8A%A4%ED%86%A0%EB%A6%AC%20%ED%9B%BC%EC%86%90%20%EB%B0%8F%20%EC%A7%81%EC%9E%A5%20%EB%82%B4%20%EA%B4%B4%EB%A1%AD%ED%9E%98%20%EB%85%BC%EB%9E%80#s-5
>>545101672armpit job from selena
>>545102230>t. Jeet
>>545095407Like >>545096046 said, Genshit opened the gate to let these people in during lockdown and upon realizing this is where the incel nazi chuds dwell, they make it their life mission to stink up the place. There were very little complain about character design in gacha before Genshit came to be.
CHAOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>545102387>That's an artifact from the old scriptRetard
MIKA IS A SMELLY NERD!!!!!
so will they use the notGin guy to be the face of NTR? that guy actually tries to bang Renoa for one instead of just a product of schizo delusions
>545102517Everyone can tell you are
>>545102365No, these were real.
I will make so many kids with Tressa that the entire SS Nightmare cast will be relegated to babysitting duty.
anyone else rerolling with the free 10 pull?
>>545101431void elf twink looks really cool though
>>545102584can you post the rest anon?
>>545102646Louis can deal 30k hits Meanwhile you have to defend yourself with a small pistolFaceless backline MC was a mistake. Give us playable MC.
>>545102663Angelo clearly paid you extra today.
>>545102709>can you post the rest anon?Sure I'll launch my game and try to get it, it's annoying to screenshot because every time you loop it resets the text history.>>545102456Anything besides just something saying this is the case? Like the actual leaks?
>>545102807spoiler that shit if you have to post it.
>>545102807https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view?id=chaoszero&no=138765The links are literally right there. This is your last spoonfeed.
>545102801>He's still goingHaha
>>545102385>You don't find this out until the epiloge you unlock at level 50 though.Yeah that's what I meant.
Luke hits like a wet fucking noodle, goddamn.
any breaders.
>>545102889It's a shitposting tourist, don't bother.
nothing wrong with not taking everything said at face value. That's just being gullible
how does retain work?
>>545097657>The truth behind Lab ZeroMike Z companion confirmed.
you guys ain't gonna bake the bread?
>>545103529stays in hand after turn ends
>>545103529cards with retain dont get discarded at the end of a turn
Lidica… the bread…
>>545103589The nightmare is about to end...
>>545102584>squinty eyes anime guy is evilhow predictable damn. It is literally a meme.
>>545103529The card doesn't go away between turns unless you use it.
Is this any good? I don't know much about Rei
>>545102981 (me) Forgot to mention I'm trans btw
>545103742>Too busy jeetposting in other threads to shitpost here in a timely fashion and STILL isn't getting any yousKek
What combatants should I try to look out for next? I'm thinking Khalipe/Orlea/Renoa? I should get Haru from pity soon:tm:
>>545103720not really
I feel like resetting this run but it's literally 54k credits
>>545103961we really need a way to reroll thisgetting the wrong one brick the deck save run forever
>>545103871what is good for her?
baking
>>545104052depends on your team
>>545102709>>545102873Here you go>>545103654To be fair, the most well known example of this basically just said "he's evil" from the start and then he does evil things and you go "of course this was obvious" and then the big twist is when he backstabs the main antagonist and almost kills him. I don't think Louis is going to be a secret good guy.
FUCKING DOG ENDED MY SMOOTH RUN
>>545103834>xe's narrating xis own actions now
>>545092865>>545092632>>545091187The whole Judas plot only really makes sense with time loop nonsense.That's the only way to justify stopping him and not being able to explain why we are able to seal chaos shits with 100% success rate, otherwise it makes no sense to expect no sacrifices without time loop bullshit.
>>545104150>>545104150>>545104150
>>545104113She's on my secondary team, mei lin and veronica
>545104159>Making it incredibly obvious they are in fact just shitposting and not me nowRuh roh lol
>>545104290See>>545104159
Thanks for the yous but you still aren't getting any bucko.
>>545099383The sentries alternate between attacking and spamming your deck with daze cardsIt's literally the same here, even with the order of the sentries and HP compositionThey even copy the bird fights and the changing intention monster fight. Truly creatively bankrupt.
>>545104431So true troonditxister.
Admitting you are one isn't the own you think it is bwo
>gookdchad won just like thatKEKAROOO
